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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of After Dark on the American Alpha Talk Radio Network.
- 0:09I am your host, Rob Parker, and my co-host tonight is Heather Robinson, one of the contributors of the New York Post.
- 0:15Heather, how are you tonight?
- 0:16Doing well, Rob.
- 0:18How are you?
- 0:18Heather, I'm doing well as well.
- 0:20We've got a lot to talk about.
- 0:22So I just want to go ahead and get right into it because there's just so much to discuss.
- 0:28We have on coming on the show tonight also is our guest, Simon Ding, who was an escape slave and a human rights activist from Southern Sudan.
- 0:37He's gonna come on.
- 0:38He's been on our show twice.
- 0:40And we have enjoyed both times his come on because he he has been shedding a light for us into the world of Islam, radical uh Islam.
- 0:51And when he was on our show in December, Heather.
- 0:57He made this pronouncement.
- 1:01He said that Europe has a problem.
- 1:04Belgium has a problem, Germany has a problem, France has a problem.
- 1:14London has a bigger problem.
- 1:17And today America has a problem.
- 1:22That problem is the Islamification of the West by radical Islamist.
- 1:30Simon made that pronouncement in December of last year.
- 1:38Since then 2026.
- 1:44We have had five terrorist attacks on our soil.
- 1:57With the most recent being in Michigan from the Temple of Israel.
- 2:04And Old Dominion College in Virginia were both attacked on the same day by radical Islamist.
- 2:18Prior to that, the week before that there was a terrorist attack.
- 2:25And all these attacks were averted to a degree by two teenagers in New York City.
- 2:37There was a protest taking place.
- 2:40And the two men of Arab descent and of the Islam faith did not like what they were hearing and tried to set off an IED, a bomb, a dirty bomb.
- 2:58Right before then in Houston, Texas.
- 3:03A man from Senegal, nationalized citizen, open fire on individuals, I think at a restaurant, shouting Alu Akbar.
- 3:18The situation in New York when it happened, our first Muslim mayor said that it was not a terrorist act, that it was white supremacist.
- 3:51Heather, America has an Islamist problem.
- 3:59We can no longer the whole world.
- 4:01We can no longer deny what's happening.
- 4:08We need to accept it.
- 4:10And we need to do something about it.
- 4:20And he opened up the show giving additional comments.
- 4:29And he said the mission of Islam from day one is to capture and conquer where is peace.
- 4:48But if that is the case, Heather, why are we having these terrorist attacks on our soil?
- 4:58Not by white men as a liberal progressive propaganda arm political action committee of the Democratic Party, the media would have us to believe.
- 5:11These are not white men, and that's not to say before long, some white men won't come up, some radical liberal won't try to do the same thing, a terrorist attack.
- 5:23But right now, we know that these are radical Muslims who have been indoctrinated, and who are saying that they want to cause death and destruction, that they are followers of ISIS, that their actions is a direct result of them pushing back.
- 5:55And we want to deny it.
- 6:05Heather, what are your thoughts?
- 6:09Yes, Rob, I think that this is a very violent fanatical ideology which has spread around the globe.
- 6:22It's very hard to uh uh identify who the enemy is.
- 6:28I mean, it isn't hard in terms of when somebody murderous attacks us, of course.
- 6:33We know that person's an enemy.
- 6:35We know the regime in Tehran has been the number one world global sponsor of terrorism for 47 years.
- 6:44So we know that, but I mean, in terms of the masses of Muslims in the world, if I can speak very candidly, I think it's people are squeamish about overgeneralizing for good reason.
- 6:58I mean, we most of us nobody really knows how widespread the support is for radical violence.
- 7:11I mean, if you go by polls though, it's not uh a small number, but of Muslims worldwide who support this garbage, and that's what's very concerning.
- 7:22At the same time, we don't want to become bigoted toward all Muslims.
- 7:27I certainly don't want to.
- 7:29So to be to be really candid, and you and our listeners are used to this about me, Rob.
- 7:34I I speak plainly, and I don't weigh every word for the sake of political correctness, but I mean I I think that the really the elephant in the room is uh can we trust the Muslims in our own country?
- 7:49You know, which ones can we trust?
- 7:52I mean, there are some who are good people.
- 7:54I think America's done a better job than many countries of welcoming and assimilating people so that we we don't have as much radicalism among the Muslim population in my uh eyes as say they do in France or uh London.
- 8:15And I think you know, we can speculate as to the reasons for that, but I you know, I think here you see a lot of women in the hijab, I believe it's called, and you you know, you don't want to demonize and recoil just because it's different.
- 8:31Um, but at the same time, you don't want to be a fool and fail to see that there is a segment of um the Muslim population who subscribe to extremism and and certainly who rationalize it, and it's it's just I think a challenge for Western governments and and for us for each of us to know exactly how to handle this problem, but it is a problem.
- 9:00I mean, I do I don't I don't mean to sound like uh RG Bunker, but I do have some good Muslim friends, I do, and that they are you know wonderful humanitarian people.
- 9:12They happen to be from Bangladesh, and um, but I I also know a very nice family who were from Lebanon.
- 9:20Um I mean, I think like anything, we have to keep our um humanity to judge people as individuals to the extent possible, but at the same time to be not to suffer any any radicalism and violence and excusing of violence.
- 9:41So, you know, we're talking about a lot of people.
- 9:46We have opened our doors as a as a country to many different people, and some of them, you know, we have some good Muslim Americans who was the congressman.
- 9:55Um, he's been there for a long time, Daryl Issa.
- 9:58Um
- 10:00So, you know, it isn't everybody, but clearly, clearly, there's a there's a terrible problem in the Middle East.
- 10:06There's uh, you know, I'm just hoping that what what President Trump is doing in cutting off the head of the snake, which is Iran, is going to pay dividends in the long run.
- 10:18Uh I saw a woman, a brave woman on uh she was speaking uh, I believe on NBC.
- 10:24Well, no, they let her on to CNN.
- 10:26I mean, and I actually was kind of surprised, maybe, you know, maybe the Ellisons gambit with CN with uh CNN is already starting to take shape because she was um praising President Trump's decisiveness in his action, talking about how she was asked how do the people in Iran um feel about all this and when at what point do we risk losing their support for this war, you know, at what point, because there are these really you know terrible, unfortunate collateral things that happen unintentionally, like the the killing the of all those girls at uh a grade school uh in Iran that now is thought to have been the result of a of a US strike that was not intended for that school, but intended for the the um IRGC uh building nearby, which of course prompts the other question, which is why are why is the IRGC and the Tehran government putting their military facilities, putting little girls' schools next to their facilities, which makes them at least partially responsible for what happened.
- 11:38Well, to me, that's that that is a question that I should that's I think that is a question.
- 11:42We know why, we know why, you know, they but instead would say they don't care.
- 11:46It's beyond them not caring.
- 11:47They I'm convinced it's part of their strategy, it is part of their strategy with Israel.
- 11:52And they're hoping they want these poor kids to die because then they can get good PR from the internet to the international.
- 11:59They want the PR, they want to play on our emotions, they want to be able to say, look at what America did.
- 12:04Meanwhile, and you have Democrats and you have the media who are right on board with it.
- 12:08Yeah.
- 12:08But when Biden went in Bangladesh and killed a family member, a family of 13, no one said anything about it.
- 12:17It's like this collateral damage and move on.
- 12:19But then they want to get to the definitely want to find out the intricacies of this girl school.
- 12:24When as you said, we know why why would they put their a center here?
- 12:32Yeah.
- 12:33Where they're attacking individuals.
- 12:34Now you're talking Simon.
- 12:37Right.
- 12:37Simon just came on, and we definitely want to get his take on all of this because Simon, when you were uh before you came on, I uh quoted something that you had said to us back in December, and I want to read it again.
- 12:50You had said Europe has a problem, Belgium has a problem, Germany has a problem, France has a problem, London, a bigger problem, and today America has a problem.
- 13:05That problem is the Islamification of the West by radical Islamist.
- 13:12Now, you sat that in December of last year, not knowing what we would be encountering today, as I mentioned in my opening, five terrorist attacks on American soil.
- 13:29Two here in New York City, well, two men in New York City trying to set up an IED bomb, dirty bomb, old Dominion University, Temporal Israel in Michigan this past Friday.
- 13:44What is going on?
- 13:46And how did you have the foresight, Simon, to call this out the way you did in December?
- 13:56What are we missing here in America that seems so obvious to you, Simon?
- 14:04You have the floor.
- 14:05We're having a little technical difficulties.
- 14:07I don't know if Simon was able, if this mic is on or not.
- 14:11But we're going to get him to answer that.
- 14:14How did he how did he force well, not even foresee, but he called it.
- 14:21He said that we have a problem.
- 14:24And I hate looking at things from the left or from the right, but we have to be honest.
- 14:30Those on the left are pretending as if though this problem doesn't exist.
- 14:38Sure, sure.
- 14:39Well, that's their MO.
- 14:40That's what they do.
- 14:41And they, as we know, they go beyond some of them pretending it doesn't exist.
- 14:46They sympathize with the radicals, because in their worldview, it's all a matter of uh, you know, wealthier nations equal evil, and uh poorer people automatically good.
- 15:01Uh, we know the whole racial, you know, simplistic divvying up of the world into, you know, whoever's lighter skinned bad, whoever's darker skinned, good.
- 15:11Uh, you know, they they're basically very childish.
- 15:15I mean, their their whole paradigm is this simplistic kind of um typing of people, and uh they're misapplying that paradigm to a situation that is very uh not well so they're not well served to to apply it to this situations, and the bottom line is that they're fooled, they are essentially dupes of radical Islamism.
- 15:48I you know how much of it is just naivety and decadence and being born in the West and not actually life and death, you know, confronted with radical Islam.
- 15:58I don't know.
- 15:59Uh I was just having a conversation today with someone about this about Israel, and you know, in Israel, there's a very um robust left.
- 16:08And even though they're on the front lines, you know, a lot of these folks they they have they're they bend over backwards to try to be fair, they're incredibly compassionate to Arabs, especially, you know, including Palestinians who are some of whom are murderous toward them.
- 16:27And it's a you know, it's just that that ideology seems to know upon intended trump everything, including the knife that's at their throats.
- 16:38But I, you know, what can I say?
- 16:40It's it's I mean, I think my Jewish people, I could go into a lot of theorizing as to why that uh that hold that the Democratic Party and and you know, even more extreme leftist politics has over some of them.
- 16:55It's not everybody, you know, Jews are a very um philosophically diverse people.
- 17:01We tend to be very peaceful people, you know, overall, but some of us are conservatives.
- 17:06Uh, you know, but I was just reading an Isaac Besheva Singer, um, excuse me, I Israel Joshua Singer, who was uh I B Singer's brother, a novel he wrote, I think it was back in, you know, around early 20th century.
- 17:18Anyway, I can't even remember what the name was, but it there was a scene where Jewish people were debating, and they were having the same kinds of debates that you hear now about should we be Zionists, should we be fighting for the holy land and you know, for our own country, or should and then there were the liberal Jews of Europe who were saying who were arguing, no, no, you know, we should we should you know assure our countrymen that we are, you know, we're gonna blend in, we shouldn't make trouble.
- 17:47That's that's too aggressive, it's too disruptive, you know, we don't want to be troublemakers, we don't want to, you know, we don't want to create any controversy.
- 17:58And sadly, you know, we know who was more wrong in that situation was these you know the poor Jews who thought that oh their countrymen would always stand with them if they were loyal citizens of France, of Spain, of Germany, whatever.
- 18:17Um, you know, and so I'm I guess my my point in saying this is that you know, my people, many of them tend to be very idealistic.
- 18:27That that leftism, that idea that you know, we should be uh one world and and you know, against any kind of uh singling out of anybody else.
- 18:42I mean, it has I think complex roots, and I think sometimes it can be a beautiful and worthy way of looking at things, but sometimes it's not appropriate, and it's not you know, in this case, we have real enemies, bloodthirsty, crazy enemies, and so does the whole civilized world, and uh we need to get it.
- 19:02Well, we're we're under attack and we need to accept it.
- 19:06We're up for a commercial break, but when we come back, we're gonna have Simon on.
- 19:09Hopefully, we've gotten his mic uh fixed.
- 19:11You listen to After Dark on the America Outlaw Talk Radio Network.
- 19:15I'm your host, Rob Harper.
- 19:16My co-host tonight is how the Robinson, a contributor for the New York Post, and our special guest is Simon Ding, human rights activist.
- 19:23We'll be back after this brief commercial break.
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- 22:12And I think we're able to get Simon's mic working.
- 22:15So he's on.
- 22:16And I'm gonna put the question back up there to something that he had said again on last year.
- 22:21He had the foresight to say this.
- 22:23Gonna read again because I think this is very powerful.
- 22:26Europe has a problem, Belgium has a problem, Germany has a problem, France has a problem, and today America has a problem.
- 22:39That problem is the Islamification of the West by radical Islamist.
- 22:46And I name to you or mention to you the five recent terrorist attacks that have happened here in America.
- 22:55Unfortunately, our Muslim mayor, Nandami, initially chose to say that it was about white supremacists as opposed to radical Islam.
- 23:08And as I also said, he is the first, and may he be the last.
- 23:14America needs to wake up.
- 23:18That being said, Simon.
- 23:21How did you have the foresight to call this?
- 23:24Did you see this coming?
- 23:26Did you see this happening when you mentioned it last year?
- 23:30Simon.
- 23:31Hey Rob, uh you are absolutely right.
- 23:34Uh what I said last year, it is something I have been saying for over 35 years.
- 23:39Uh I remember uh when I came to the US, I approached an elected officials here in New York, a congressman, telling him that what is happening to us in Sudan and making it sure that what happened there, it is not going to be us alone.
- 23:57He's gonna come to you here.
- 23:59Guess what he did said?
- 24:00His response to me was that I'm being paranoid.
- 24:02This is very unfortunately.
- 24:04Elected official telling me that I'm being paranoid, and then soon later we have individuals who have been kicked out by Egyptian government.
- 24:11Uh, I'm talking about the blind Sheikh Omar Ad Rahman came to the United States through Sudan with a Sudanese document to come and teach.
- 24:20And even there was one of his teaching in Brooklyn, New York at Atlantic Avenue, in one of the most praising the Muslim that arrived here, that they'll be being sent by Allah to come and be the one who will cut the the neck that the head of the of the snacks.
- 24:39Whom do you talk talk about?
- 24:40Talk about the United States, and then he went and influenced young Muslims, and then they went to bring down the Twin Towers.
- 24:54Unfortunately, they didn't manage to bring the Twin Towers down, but they killed people, and then he was caught.
- 25:01And I said in one of the on one of the radio ABC here in New York, I told them this is the beginning.
- 25:10Don't assume that you capture the blanch and and perpetrators, and you put them in jail and you assume that the problem is solved.
- 25:18No, this is the beginning.
- 25:20And guess what?
- 25:2111 years later or 10 years later, what happened?
- 25:259-11.
- 25:26So when I was talking about what I said last year, it is something that I have been saying all along.
- 25:32And I mentioned what happened in Europe.
- 25:36The reason I mention Europe, because look at London's all the majority of the mayors of the UK are Muslims, which was not the case 50 years ago, which was not the case 70 years ago, which was not the case 40 years ago.
- 25:52Wow, yeah.
- 25:53And when I came here, we didn't have a mayor of Muslims.
- 25:56We didn't have a Muslim in a Congress.
- 25:58There was one.
- 25:59Look at it today.
- 26:00How many mayors we have?
- 26:02Muslims.
- 26:03The city of New York, the biggest and the largest city in the world with the with with pool of financial of the worlds in it, run by who?
- 26:15By the Muslim.
- 26:16It is a win on the under their side, believe it or not.
- 26:20People may look at it in a different way.
- 26:23All over the United States, what did a Muslim doing these days?
- 26:27Buying churches, buying property to build mosses, to a point that after they brought down the twin towers, they have they did have an audacity to secure a land to build the most under the ground zero.
- 26:44In which we went heaven and earth to stop that.
- 26:48Because American is so naive.
- 26:51So what did I say last time?
- 26:53It is true.
- 26:54So when it comes to the war in Iran today, and I have seen some of the elected officials in Washington whining, crying, blaming the president, any presidents, crud, who didn't talk about Iran have to be confronted.
- 27:11But they didn't have a gut.
- 27:12Thank God today, God has brought somebody who has a gut.
- 27:17And believe it or not, this ally with Prime Minister of Israel and President Trump.
- 27:25It is the same ally who winter church or with the president of the United States to bring down the evil Hitler.
- 27:33Iran with the mullahs are the seconds of Hitler.
- 27:37Iran has been at war with the United States all along.
- 27:41Somebody have to tell me that this is not true.
- 27:45What did they do with using Hezbollah to kill Islam American Marines?
- 27:53What did they do by giving them all the militias in the area to do the dirty work for them?
- 27:59And are you telling me that you are not at war with them?
- 28:01Wake up America.
- 28:03This war have to be fought.
- 28:04It is a necessary war.
- 28:06And this war have to be we have to be fought until everything that Iran has to be controlled.
- 28:15Because Iran has been a bully.
- 28:18He has bullying everybody in the world.
- 28:21He is bullying even the Arabs, the Arab community within the areas.
- 28:26I think it was last week's or a week ago.
- 28:30When you have 130 nations in the United Nation, together condemning the Iran.
- 28:38And all the Gulf country, all the Gulf countries is standing behind President of the United States, so that they all these weapons being built.
- 28:52Somebody have to come and ask himself.
- 29:07And then nuclear weapons which they want to have.
- 29:11And you have it in the hand of a person who is creating a problem and supporting all the terrorists all over the world.
- 29:32And guess are you telling me that these person need to not be confronted?
- 29:37You know, we have to stand behind the presidents and the president doing a good job.
- 29:42And we have to pray every day that all these weapons being thrown at the innocent peoples, that you know they have to be secure, and Iran have to need to be defeated.
- 30:00And why is it that the folks on the left seemingly want the president to fail all of their reports on Iran is that oh, Iran, they've got the best of Trump, and Iran did this, and Iran did that, and you know, look at what they're doing.
- 30:22Even you look at the terrorist activity that took place here, it seems as if though they are praising these individuals as opposed to calling them out.
- 30:34And as you mentioned, Simon, you look across the country, and you see mosques that are being built all over.
- 30:43Look at Texas, they were trying to build epic city, and in some cases, they're telling us their intention.
- 30:51They're saying what they're going to do, or what they're doing, but yet and still we refuse to accept it.
- 31:01They're telling us in our face.
- 31:03You look at Times Square, they have these huge prayers.
- 31:07They're praying.
- 31:08Look at the mayor's office, City Hall, Mandami praying.
- 31:13They're telling us they're open, they're not trying to hide it.
- 31:16They're openly saying we're taking over.
- 31:19This is our intention.
- 31:20And if they don't like it here, you have in the Middle East five Muslim countries, Arab countries that they could go to, but they refuse to go there.
- 31:31They're coming here.
- 31:32Try going to their country and praying on the outside, the streets, a public square.
- 31:38Do you think they would allow it?
- 31:41Do you think Christians would be able to call the blood of Jesus there?
- 31:44Do you think that our brothers and sisters of the Jewish faith would be able to pray or say prayers?
- 31:51Absolutely not.
- 31:52But we being the country that we are, freedom of religion, welcoming all, we will allow them to come and take advantage.
- 32:00And I think you said that once also when you were here last, that they're taking advantage of our laws, and they're using them against us.
- 32:09They're taking advantage of our freedom, and they're using it against us.
- 32:14And our brothers and sisters on the left will pretend as if though this is a thing.
- 32:20You mentioned the left.
- 32:22The left is known for one thing, in my opinions.
- 32:25Let all get along.
- 32:26The questions that have to be us to be thrown to them.
- 32:29Are you going to get along with the snakes?
- 32:31Are you going to bring the Kool-Aid together and sleep together with the snakes?
- 32:37Of course, they will not uh answer that.
- 32:40And this is the failure of the United States.
- 32:45They are not taking the advantage of our constitution.
- 32:47They're taking advantage of through using the left.
- 32:52When you have some members to the Congress sitting in the house of the representative, the how is that we uh we we we hold as a symbol of the nation and the symbol of the constitution where the laws are being made, and they have the sign in their chest, using that sign with F word in it to the president, and the party of that member of the Congress cannot sanction that individual, then you're done.
- 33:32You're done.
- 33:33Very sad, and it is something beyond anybody.
- 33:40When you have a member of the Congress, we're supposed to believe by example to our kids, to our kids, having that sign in that house with a big sign that I don't want to pronounce it the way it is, and that individual cannot be sanctioned.
- 34:04So the the the left in this country, they contributed of what is happening today.
- 34:16And I look back from the President Obama talking about that Iran have to be confronted.
- 34:23President Biden talking about Iran have to be confronted.
- 34:27President Clinton, the same things, and now you have people like people of Chuck Schumacher whining and crying, the men who have an audacity too, calling to overthrow the prime minister of Israel when Israel is at war.
- 34:45Something wrong with the left.
- 34:48Something wrong with that party.
- 34:52And I hope Americans could listen, and Americans have to wake up.
- 34:56And calling them out does not mean that we are Islamophobia or anything of the sorts, Heather, because whenever you call this out, they will immediately label you and say you're xenophobic, Islamophobic, and everything else, all the phobias will come out.
- 35:16Well, yes, call them out.
- 35:17I was going to say what I hear you, you're right, but I also think that it's genuinely true.
- 35:24I guess what I'd be interested though in is that on a smaller micro level, like how do you know?
- 35:31I mean, I guess you just go by the people you meet and you listen to what they say, and you know, I'd I'd be interested to pose that question to Simon because you know he lives in you know, among a lot of different kinds of people and in private life, like how do you think Americans should handle this, Simon?
- 35:53And you know, do you think that it's important to befriend people who are Muslim and hear what they have to say?
- 36:00Is it, I mean, on an individual level, do you have friends who are Muslim?
- 36:05How do you handle this tension between wanting to be astute to the radicalism and the war on the West, but at the same time not uh alienate anyone who might really be moderate and be a good friend and neighbor?
- 36:24How do you navigate that?
- 36:26Before he answers, we've got to go to commercial break, but when we come back, we will allow Simon to elaborate on it, as has mentioned.
- 36:34How do you navigate through it when you have good Muslims who want to do right and they respect our country and our constitution compared to those who don't?
- 36:45Because clearly we would have thought that these gentlemen who launched these attacks were they were nationalized citizens and wanted to be here, but apparently uh that's not the case.
- 36:57You'll listen to After Dark of the America Outlaw Talk Radio Network, we'll be back after this brief commercial break, and Simon will answer Heather's question.
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- 39:13And we're back with the last half of the show.
- 39:16And we're just going to toss it directly to Simon so that he can answer questions Heather's question on how do you know?
- 39:22How do you know the good from the bad, the good apples from the bad apples?
- 39:25How do you separate the two?
- 39:28Simon, what are your thoughts?
- 39:30You know, it is a good question, uh, which is sometimes is not easy to put the fingers on it.
- 39:39Uh but as Heather was saying that some good Muslims, yes, of course.
- 39:45Uh in every jungle, there are some good animals and there are some ruthless animals.
- 39:55And usually Jerusalem is the one.
- 40:00Always run the show.
- 40:03Because the good one is a minority.
- 40:06The good one is being seen that in the bush, by the way.
- 40:10I'm giving that example.
- 40:12Being seen that he or she have no teeth, cannot bite, cannot attack.
- 40:19So the ruthless one is always taking the major.
- 40:23The reason I said that why Iran is bullying everybody.
- 40:31Because he accumulate so many weapons.
- 40:36And instead of investing it in his peoples, he accumulates the weapon that nobody in the Middle East has.
- 40:58By creating a Hezbollah in Lebanon.
- 41:02Very strong to a point that a government cannot confront them.
- 41:08Because they have weapons the government doesn't have.
- 42:01We have been telling them years and years, and we got tired of them.
- 42:06Two million Southern Sudan was a slaughter, not in the name of love, in the name of jihad by these Muslim brothers in Sudan as a part as a ruling party, second to Iran.
- 42:21In other words, the the government of Sudan, when they declare Sudan as an Islamic state, Sudan become exactly a little boy of Iran, because everybody comes from there.
- 42:35So to confront them, which is not easy, by the way.
- 42:40And the reason I said it's not easy.
- 42:42After 911, there was a debate being put together by BBC.
- 42:48They brought all the Muslim scholars, thousands of them, and they brought those bad happeners, radical Islam, to debate whether the direction being laid by the radical is the right one.
- 43:06And by the way, guess who who won the debate?
- 43:10It is the radical Muslims, radical Islam.
- 43:15According to them, they are doing it because it is in the Quran.
- 43:20They brought the book, they confronted so-called a good Muslims that we we talk about to distance themselves from Quran, but they cannot distance themselves because they are attached to it.
- 43:34Because in Islam, when you distance yourself, you will be leveled in Arabic mutating in which you have to be ex and to be killed.
- 43:49So no Muslim can distance himself from the book.
- 43:55And no Muslim can even condemn openly what being done in the name of Islam by the radical Muslim as the bad thing.
- 44:05And look at it this way.
- 44:07You have to ask yourself after 9 11, how many Muslims nation denounce what happened by the terrorist groups?
- 44:20Few.
- 44:21That says a lot, only a few.
- 44:24Only a few would denounce it.
- 44:26And like I mentioned, look at the mayor here of New York City refuses to refuse initially.
- 44:53And that's why Sudan broke into two pieces today.
- 44:56So to have an answer for the good Muslim, it is not easy to come until the Muslim themselves, being run by Islam themselves, have to make it as a law.
- 45:10That time has come where the religion has to be between you and your God and how you believe in it.
- 45:18Don't bring it and shop it in my throat.
- 45:23Don't use it when you do the wrong thing and you call Allah What but like what happened every time?
- 45:28Shooting people and then you call La Hot Bar.
- 45:31Come on.
- 45:31Something wrong with that.
- 45:32So I think this is my answer to that.
- 45:36No, why do you have so few Muslims who are it seems to be afraid to denounce this radicalization within the religion?
- 45:52Well, as I said, they will not do that simply because if they do that, there is a simple word by the by that by the Islam.
- 46:03Come and mutet in Arabic, which he have to be killed.
- 46:09Period.
- 46:11Wow.
- 46:12So but they say that it is a religion, a peace.
- 46:16We talked about that when you're on the show last time.
- 46:19Let them let somebody come and tell me how that religion of peace killed four millions of my people in Sudan.
- 46:28Wow.
- 46:29Four millions of my people.
- 46:34When Islam being used, the all the militias will go into the battle in the villages, killing villages, singing Islamic songs, because they are going to heavens.
- 46:46Where did that peace is all about?
- 46:49Go and tell those the four million or my people that he was killed by somebody who loved peace.
- 46:59And this is what the West isn't getting.
- 47:03This is what they aren't talking about.
- 47:07They're completely quiet when you raise this up to them.
- 47:11But yet still they'll go out and they'll say, Oh, the Jews are committing genocide in Palestine, oh, they're committing genocide.
- 47:18But no one is calling out the Iranians who are attacking the countries and the Gulf.
- 47:26No one is calling them out and saying, wait a minute, why are you attacking them?
- 47:30Why are you trying to drag them into the or to the left anything?
- 47:36Yeah, why don't they get people radical Muslims to you know fix their teeth and do their taxes and watch their children and you know, instead of Jews.
- 47:47How many for that?
- 47:50Complete silence.
- 47:51They won't call them out, Simon.
- 47:54They won't say Iranius, why are you attacking Dubai?
- 47:57Why are you attacking Saudi Arabia?
- 48:00Why are you attacking Jordan?
- 48:02Why are you attacking the U of A?
- 48:03Why are you attacking any of your brethren?
- 48:06Why are you trying to destroy their economies by attacking their oil fields?
- 48:11Even the left, they won't say it.
- 48:13But they'll pronounce on Trump and say, Oh, Trump is doing something bad.
- 48:16Oh, Trump, and he's betraying his uh he's betraying MAGA and he's doing this.
- 48:21It's like, no, he's cleaning up a problem that has existed for four decades.
- 48:28But they won't call it out, Simon.
- 48:31As I mentioned, you had the foresight when you came here, you were meeting, you were trying to meet with different congressmen and say, there is a problem, beware, beware.
- 48:40They wouldn't listen to you.
- 48:41You went to the hill, like you said to George Bush, but no one will listen.
- 48:44And now look at where we are now.
- 48:46You know, if Americans would have listened to us, we would still have Twin Tower today exists, because we told them the agenda being waged in Sudan's toward America.
- 49:03We told them about Al-Qaeda, which is a center in Arabic, which was created in Sudan, not in Afghanistan.
- 49:15Osama bin Lada created that movement in Khartoum, in which that he was leaving as the head of the states, building training his uh terrorist groups in Sudan.
- 49:30My problem with Simon, but he'll come back on and continue his thought.
- 49:36I think that we do need to be aware as to what's happening, and we need to start calling it out.
- 49:41We can't be complicit and afraid to call this out.
- 49:51But Heather, as I was saying, it's it's just amazing with how the left they refuse.
- 50:00To call out what we're all watching and seeing.
- 50:07Yeah, and it really does bring it home when you listen to Simon in his very unflappable very calm rational way.
- 50:19He really lays it out.
- 50:21Um because he's experienced this.
- 50:24Yes.
- 50:25He has seen this.
- 50:26And as I mentioned, on two occasions when he came on our show and he's talked about this, and he cautioned us.
- 50:34And I just go back to what he's saying that you know, Europe has a problem, and now America has a problem.
- 50:39And are we going to accept the fact that we have a problem?
- 50:46And we're not condemning all Muslim Muslims.
- 50:49We're not doing that at all.
- 50:52But when you see them parading around in our streets, and you see them rejoicing and saying hooray, and they're they're calling.
- 50:59I mean, there it's a problem.
- 51:00Yeah, it's hard not to.
- 51:02You know, you don't want to fall into the trap of overgeneralizing.
- 51:07But I would encourage and urge our Muslim American brethren and brothers and sisters to make it clear that they do not support terrorism.
- 51:21I mean, I know what you're saying.
- 51:24It's it's when you see that, it's hard not to feel scared and angry.
- 51:32I mean, you know, it's it's not really like politically correct to say it, but I mean how how many people would react well.
- 51:47I mean, you know, we have to strive to avoid prejudice, but yeah, at the same time, I mean, when you're seeing people rejoice in the murder of your own people, I mean, it's hard not to feel threatened and to question their values.
- 52:08It is, and when we do question it, as I mentioned, we're you're immediate you're immediately labeled so that you don't say anything.
- 52:17But I do remember after 9-11, we said if you see something, say something, which is what we're doing.
- 52:22We see something and we're saying something.
- 52:24And I think that people on the left, like the Toko Carlson's, they don't help.
- 52:29No, they don't help.
- 52:32I mean, he used to be on the right.
- 52:33And you know, I'll tell you, I was just thinking today.
- 52:36I mean, I think all along, um, one thing I can share is members of my community, the Jewish American community, some of the liberals have been skeptical of conservative support for Israel all along.
- 52:50And I've often been in the position of speaking out about how valuable our fellow conservatives' support has been for the U.S.-Israel relationship, um, recognition of shared values and principles, um, everything cooperation from you know, science to the arts to uh military technology, all the things that the US gets from Israel and vice versa.
- 53:18Uh, and one of the things I've been frustrated with is that our Jewish community, more people, I mean, many people do see uh how great we are as allies, but you know, some of um some American Jews are very dug in with the the Democrats and liberal thinking, and I I you know have often pointed out that the Republicans are great friends of Israel, evangelicals in this country, just common sense conservatives and other people, you know, that we can't take their their support and their love for granted, and we have to show them the love and the support.
- 53:52And the thing is, you know, one of the fears that American Jews have had is that the right will turn on us also.
- 53:59And it's been very dismaying for me in recent weeks to see people like Tucker Carlson and Meghan Kelly not just critiquing this or that policy or asking questions about this or that with Israel, but just harping incessantly on our alliance with Israel.
- 54:18I mean, these are the same people who, you know, I mean, they don't well, Carson did question the the unending support for Ukraine, which you know went without question, but not Megan Kelly, and they do seem to have this disproportionate focus on Israel and Jewish thinkers and have a real animus, but you know, one of the things that's been hard for me is to realize that you know, there are some Jewish people, and you know, I've had conversations like this about this with my black friends, um, you know, who say, oh, yeah, my parents feel that way about white people, like some older Jewish people think that the whole world hates us, you know, and that nobody's Israel's friend.
- 54:58Um actually, um, I don't think that's true.
- 55:04You know, and I I always say that we have great allies in America as we are great Americans and they know it and we know it.
- 55:11But I feel, yeah, I mean, I don't feel abandoned by conservatives in America because I see this isn't a phenomenon in our Congress.
- 55:20We're not electing anti-Semites to Congress, but it's among the commentariat, uh, these people who have a real uh obsessive animus toward Israel.
- 55:29Okay, I won't go as far as to call them anti-Semites, but they're obsessed with Israel at a day with with criticizing and condemning uh aid to Israel at a time that Israel and America are perfectly aligned in reality against horrendous, monstrous, vicious terrorists, and it's hard not to feel like, well, are they anti-Semitic?
- 55:50I mean, what is I mean, these are common sense formerly conservative people.
- 55:55I mean, even if they have some questions about that or this individual policy to just be harping on this while Israel is under fire and America's at war, it's very weird.
- 56:06And you know, one of the things that I realize though is.
- 56:08Heather, I'm sorry, but we're we're we're all out of time, but we'll have to continue the conversation.
- 56:13Uh, it's unfortunate that uh Simon was having technical difficulties, but we'll have him back, and we will continue this conversation because I think it's very important to discuss that we do have a problem.
- 56:25We have an Islamification problem, and when it's called out, we're labeled as being Islamophobic or somotophobia, but we're not.
- 56:35We're just calling it the way we see it.
- 56:36Folks, you've been listening to After Dark on the America Outlaw Talk Radio Network.
- 56:40I'm your host, Rob Harper, and my call tonight is Heather Robinson of the New York Post, a contributor of the New York Post, and our guest was Simon Dean.
- 56:48We hope that you will share this when it comes out on podcast.
- 56:51And as we always end the show saying, God bless America, well, God bless Israel, get night and be safe.