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Is Corlys A DeadBeat Dad?!?!? (House Of The Dragon Season 3 Episode 4 Review Featuring Tahoe TV) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: Why one of the black women, the dragon get the struggle.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't it be somebody else over here struggles?
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  Speaker 2: We see these white quest struggle Dragon and welcome and
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  Speaker 2: that's welcome to another episode of Castle Black, the blackest
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  Speaker 1: In all of the realms. As usual, it is I
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  Speaker 1: the King, Sir Arland of Dollar Tree, Lord of Lightsabers,
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  Speaker 1: As usual. I'm joined by the smartest master in the world.
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  Speaker 1: That is Hi, everyone, It's Portia a ka Master p
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  Speaker 1: a k A Lady May j Ay of High Garden
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  Speaker 1: Icing Pireties excellent, excellent, of of course, Ben How the
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  Speaker 1: Means is back.
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  Speaker 3: Telling Ben, that's right, it's your boy, Ben, How of
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  Speaker 3: the hash Biggie, small Fork, Little Orphan Allen here in
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  Speaker 3: Castle Black.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent and special special special extra innings. Guest Tao is
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  Speaker 2: back in the building.
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  Speaker 4: Please produce yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I forgot the damn things y'all got all. I'm
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  Speaker 5: just gonna be the drag. I'mna be the dragon Dragon.
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  Speaker 5: That's really it. That's all I got right now. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm so mad. So let's just get this started because
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  Speaker 5: I want to kick everybody's ass. Let's go Why are
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  Speaker 5: you so angry?
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about funny times of happy days?
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  Speaker 2: This is all four four, Season three of House of Dragons,
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  Speaker 2: Episode four titled Tumbleton. We are halfway through the entire
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  Speaker 2: third season.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, y'all, there's only eight episodes this season,
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  Speaker 1: so at the halfway mark, this shit apparently got tie
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  Speaker 1: hold tight.
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  Speaker 4: Understand what he's mad about, but we're about to find out.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about Tumbleton. Why isn't Corliss's head tumbling down already? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Why are we? Why are we waiting? What?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 1: I just, oh, well, you know what that's Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: start there because that's actually been a huge point of
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  Speaker 1: contention the last episode.
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  Speaker 4: We got so much feedback, so.
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  Speaker 2: Much upset about what we had to say about Corliss.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there was some rights and there was some wrongs,
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  Speaker 2: But what you mean he should have got his head
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  Speaker 2: cut like his brother.
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  Speaker 5: Yo. He is the He reminds me of my dad.
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  Speaker 5: He's he's a disappointment. He's a disappointment. Like, the only
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  Speaker 5: reason you're here is because your wife died, You lost
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  Speaker 5: your damn castle, you have nothing. You're literally just an
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  Speaker 5: embodiment of a man who is very egotistical. You failed
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  Speaker 5: your children, you failed your house, your fucking you're you're
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  Speaker 5: a loser. Your kids know you're a o. Your kids
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  Speaker 5: spoke to you. It was like, oh, now you know me.
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  Speaker 5: And now you're like, oh, I have nothing to give
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  Speaker 5: you but my name. I want to be your name.
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  Speaker 1: I want your name, but I need.
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  Speaker 5: Your name because other than that, I'm just you know,
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  Speaker 5: a basket, I'm just you know whatever. And so for
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  Speaker 5: him to be so adamant and disrespectful, not only of
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  Speaker 5: his children and again, ah, but this to be the
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  Speaker 5: only black family like it. I hate it the writing
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  Speaker 5: because it's the hour, the way we are out here,
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  Speaker 5: Like we need black families, but we don't need bum
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  Speaker 5: ass dads. We don't need bum ass dads. Motherfuck. I
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  Speaker 5: got the nerves to be so adamant of what he deserves, No,
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  Speaker 5: what you deserve. The clean still cut across your head
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  Speaker 5: should be rolling down the cobblestone floors.
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  Speaker 1: Of the King.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm the fell Can you yield the floor?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to I just want to say
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  Speaker 3: one thing real quick, because we did call Corliss a
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  Speaker 3: deadbeat last week and a lot of people jumped in
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  Speaker 3: on that. They were quite upset they were defending Corliss.
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  Speaker 3: I still stand by my contention that the man is
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  Speaker 3: a deadbeat. But I do want to point out that
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  Speaker 3: black fathers are in their children's lives just as much,
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  Speaker 3: if not at a greater rate than other races whatever,
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  Speaker 3: And that's a myth and racism at worked to say
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  Speaker 3: that black fathers are not evolved in course of course.
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  Speaker 2: So people was wildin but like I appreciate that you
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  Speaker 2: said that because people got on our heads like we
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  Speaker 2: were saying some wild shit, like like we was in
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  Speaker 2: the row for saying that he's like, he just out
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  Speaker 2: for five minutes, decides he wants to be a father.
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  Speaker 1: Niece.
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  Speaker 2: Been told him to legitimize them kids, and then he
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  Speaker 2: did it when he felt like it, when he had to,
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  Speaker 2: as we say, from an.
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  Speaker 4: Egotistical part, he had to retain me.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing else once she was dead, after she asked them
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  Speaker 3: while she was alive, after she said, yo, you need
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  Speaker 3: to raise your you need to elevate your children up.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here and he's like, now, let's go over to
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  Speaker 3: dragon Stone and get you killed.
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  Speaker 5: And this is what he does literally since the beginning
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  Speaker 5: of this whole series. He's off thinking and so to
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  Speaker 5: the black father thing. Yes, black fathers, but we need
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  Speaker 5: to be in our children's lives. The idea that all
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  Speaker 5: we do is go and put money on the table
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  Speaker 5: and provide, but have no real input into their damn lives.
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  Speaker 5: Like we've never seen him. That's the first time I
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  Speaker 5: ain't seen him around these kids, all of them, all
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  Speaker 5: of them.
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  Speaker 1: But you Portia got her face been twisted.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm like, are these people new
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  Speaker 1: to our show? Because I feel like we've been calling
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  Speaker 1: him a dead beat since season one, So I just
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to reconcile. I forgot I mean actively best
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  Speaker 1: season one six season one, and I want to especially
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  Speaker 1: because I was like, I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I have been messing up in a master game. I
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: haven't refreshed myself in a minute. Let me go see
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  Speaker 1: rewatch the things and Corless there was like when Lenor died, No,
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  Speaker 1: when Lena died do you heard uneral He's the saying
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  Speaker 1: to him, like, we need to tell like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we need to get Bayla and Reina under our care,
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  Speaker 1: we need to like be with them and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And he was like, well, I'm worried
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  Speaker 1: about my legacy and.
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  Speaker 4: Ignoring the grandchid and yes the grandchither said no, but that's.
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  Speaker 1: Not the point because before so he said like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like what gets written down in legacy and history is names,
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  Speaker 1: not blood. And so he's the one who's he actively
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  Speaker 1: is like trying to say that lous Saris is his
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  Speaker 1: heir because he's concerned about his name living on in
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  Speaker 1: legacy through a boy, even if that lineage is not
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  Speaker 1: his actual blood, because he cares about his name. And
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  Speaker 1: then you're read. The only time you're ready to carry
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  Speaker 1: about your name being tied to your own blood is
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  Speaker 1: when you're the people who could carry the legacy in
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  Speaker 1: a bigger history because they have a higher place in
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  Speaker 1: the hierarchy of the monarchy. Is after they're gone. Oh
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  Speaker 1: this is dead. Well now I got to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to get this about some kind of way.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's so self serving.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I know we have a run for today.
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  Speaker 5: But it's okay, a small portion of what y'all feel
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  Speaker 5: about him yelling out bastard and why she did not
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  Speaker 5: legitimize his children, right, Well, we.
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  Speaker 6: Need to address it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we do need to dress because here's the thing
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  Speaker 1: and what I've realized also, the nearest kids were not bastards.
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  Speaker 1: Nearest kids have been legitimized by the sitting king at
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  Speaker 1: the time, the court, the assumably the scept the church.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone recognized, regardless of what what where they came from.
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  Speaker 1: DNA wise, everyone recognized them as targarias. Everyone recognized them
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  Speaker 1: as children of royalty, right, so they technically were never bastards.
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  Speaker 1: Alan and Adam were one thousand percent bastards. So that idea,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, that idea of how he came off
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  Speaker 1: was just wild. That was just his echoes of his brother.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I understand how Holl's energy about that,
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  Speaker 2: because first of all, you're doing that in mixed company,
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  Speaker 2: you're doing that in public, You're doing that loud as.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking the people.
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  Speaker 2: And you can see in this scene the people looking
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  Speaker 2: in the back like, well, what's going on over there?
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  Speaker 2: Like you don't bring the family business outside like that now,
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  Speaker 2: ray Neira. She was already in over her head with
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  Speaker 2: everything else, and I keep telling people she didn't and yes,
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  Speaker 2: you can say that, oh you know, people like I'm
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  Speaker 2: not naive when people she didn't say no, she just said, well,
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  Speaker 2: not right now.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not naive.
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  Speaker 1: People forget quote, forget people let stuff go by for years.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, she never said no. She
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  Speaker 2: just said right now. It's a little wild for me.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, it's a little bit much to be asking
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  Speaker 2: to do this. I can't even legitimize the dragon seeds,
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  Speaker 2: So why would I legitimize again do this?
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  Speaker 1: Why would I? I'm already in a in a very
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  Speaker 1: precarious position. I need to solidify my hold on kings
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  Speaker 1: lenn and my hold on this kingdom number one, before
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  Speaker 1: I started dressing all this side shit.
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  Speaker 4: Niggas is out in the streets.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's complaining, there's nothing that's held down, there's nothing that's
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  Speaker 2: in the setting stone yet for her reign. So why
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  Speaker 2: would we now start going into this. This is very
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  Speaker 2: self centered of Cordless, And my thing is he didn't
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  Speaker 2: have to do all that.
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  Speaker 6: He could have.
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  Speaker 2: Literally could have just chilled us for a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and then we could have had an argument about that.
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  Speaker 2: We could have had that argument as family behind closed doors,
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  Speaker 2: not like this. The only reason his head wasn't chopped
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  Speaker 2: ups is because Rainierras just wasn't in that frame of
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  Speaker 2: mind to be thinking about shit like that. She was
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  Speaker 2: just looking for as much support as she could in
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  Speaker 2: the moment. You saw how she looked this episode. She
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  Speaker 2: was just she had like two tree people at the
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  Speaker 2: table for her small consul and even she was like,
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  Speaker 2: I got nobody to help.
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  Speaker 4: Me, nigga, that's how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: And then look at where, look where?
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  Speaker 2: Talk about self serving once again, She's like, well, you
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  Speaker 2: know I'm still I'm still here for your counsel.
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  Speaker 4: You're still my hand? Where is my hand?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? He's all because he want to go fight? When
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  Speaker 1: is whatever away from the king?
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  Speaker 2: Once because and she said he and she literally said
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  Speaker 2: he could have just got any old fucking body to
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  Speaker 2: do that. She said, he got good men to go
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  Speaker 2: round up the fucking scoundrel pirates.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they need to go out there. And he's
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  Speaker 1: old now too. It's not even like he's like still
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  Speaker 1: at he's like good like fighting age. She's like older.
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  Speaker 5: She needed to cut his head off because Raynera, although
• 10:36
  Speaker 5: she is yo Vissera's, he wasn't a wartime king. At
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  Speaker 5: this point. You have to as a woman, and at war,
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  Speaker 5: you have to show war. You have to be war ready.
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  Speaker 5: This man your hand is actively disrespecting you in front
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  Speaker 5: of mad people, actively telling like, yo, I don't give
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  Speaker 5: a fuck what you say. If I need you here,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do what I want to do. You're actively
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  Speaker 5: showing these men that you don't need to be respected.
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  Speaker 5: She needed to cut his head off and put it
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  Speaker 5: on a fucking spike. He doesn't even really have a
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  Speaker 5: house anymore. He doesn't even like it's over. The one
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  Speaker 5: thing that he could the one thing that he could
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  Speaker 5: have served, is to show everybody else around here, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not fucking playing about y'all. I'm not fucking playing I'm
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  Speaker 5: the queen, and stop disrespecting me. Cutting his head off
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  Speaker 5: with it, did that in one shot and had his
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  Speaker 5: lots hanging down to I'm not playing about none of y'all.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: She don't have damon energy. That's a damon move.
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  Speaker 5: You should have did it. And that's another thing. She's
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  Speaker 5: the queen. I'm sorry, y'all. No, and I just want
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  Speaker 5: to have me about Damon and whatever man she's next to.
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  Speaker 5: That's the problem. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to add because people have been
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: on us about this and they were like, she had
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  Speaker 3: no reason not to legitimize his sons, and she has
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  Speaker 3: every reason in the world about sons. Legitimizing his sons
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  Speaker 3: means his sons now have a claim to the throne. Like,
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  Speaker 3: why would she do that when you out here calling
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: her people bastards in public? And because of you doing this,
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  Speaker 3: now she got people writing bastards and balls like then.
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  Speaker 5: Beyond that, she just legitimized two bastards. She's not legitimate.
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  Speaker 5: She just gave two bastards dragons. Now they legitimized this
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  Speaker 5: motherfucker's kids. What about the two motherfuckers that have helstorms
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  Speaker 5: like they're riding around on spire breathing dragons that will
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: also say, Yo, what about me? I got as much
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  Speaker 5: of the writer as them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if they were any closer to
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  Speaker 1: the throne, Ben, but the point is.
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  Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter. They got dragons. I mean whether
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  Speaker 3: or not they're host When you got dragons, who gives
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  Speaker 3: a shit.
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  Speaker 5: That's where the quick. That's why I said, when I
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  Speaker 5: saw a queen of queen of bastards, I'm wondering who
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: were the bastards now, because it's like everybody, you're dragons.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the point right there, is making
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  Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by technically bastards everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: I can't now go around before like my ship.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: My ship.
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  Speaker 4: People believe I'm queen to a degree, but they not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not solid yet, so I can't just be saying wild.
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  Speaker 4: Shit like that right now. Yeah, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: So that's cordless of the jackass.
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  Speaker 5: It's horrible. Bird's actually horrible and super disrespectful, like and
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: he's just a loser. I'm sorry, he's just a loser.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: People are just people are on our comments mad because
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  Speaker 3: he's a black man. Like Tyhoe said, there's not enough
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: black people on this show. So because of that, it's
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: like he represents all of us, and so they're like,
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: don't go again, and I'm like, well, sometimes it happens
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Fam We're gonna do whoever is acting wild, period, but.
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  Speaker 5: We're not a monolith. And that's not a good example.
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  Speaker 5: Just because you're black doesn't make a good example. Of
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  Speaker 5: straight up, it doesn't. And the one of those of
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: y'all that are like black empowerment and we should be
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  Speaker 5: able to say some of these niggas need to be
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  Speaker 5: uprooted and some of these niggas need to be called
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: to the car. But he is one of them. He's
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: not a good example. A lot of y'all have trauma
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  Speaker 5: from your black father, and I work on traumatizing my
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: children by not being around, by not being in, by
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: not knowing what's going on, by not asking them and
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: tell him how are you well, you know, and showing
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  Speaker 5: up for them when they need me to show up
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: for them. A lot of y'all that are in the comments,
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: y'all know that we should not just because he's a
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: black dad, be like, oh no, he's a problem.
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: That's how I feel about Raina. But we'll get to
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: that later.
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  Speaker 5: I would just.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Say that, like I'm like I've called Carlos and dead
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  Speaker 1: meat from the very beginning because I recognize this, I
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: know the behaviors, I know what that looks like. It's
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: not like I'm like has my own traumas that I'm
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: not bringing into it. I could be like, if I
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: were projecting, i'd be like, Okay, I I know I'm
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: projecting right now, but like, when I know dead beat behavior,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call out dead beat behavior because I've lived
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: through dead beat behavior. So one person like being that example,
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  Speaker 1: Like is it? It's just like how I feel, like, Okay,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: how I feel about Raina and her being portrayed on
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: the show, the way that she is and the way
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  Speaker 1: she's going through, like a black woman struggling with the dragon,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Like why one of the black women the dragon get
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: a struggle? Why can't it be somebody else over here struggles?
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  Speaker 1: We see these white folks struggle.
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: Rough?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Why is she looking up?
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Why y'all talking about it? Go ahead and talk about it?
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  Speaker 6: What's your style? Rainer?
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  Speaker 5: Struggle? Struggle?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I like, so I understand what.
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  Speaker 5: Not.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Don't let the black people in the show go out
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: like that like ship like this is this is what
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: we're getting. This is who these characters are presenting themselves
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: on the TV.
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  Speaker 5: AM.
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  Speaker 1: I upset about them having a black woman struggle going
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: on here, Yes, But at the same time, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to not call out what's going on
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: with the character and like why the characters acting that way.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Because it ain't like this whole This whole episode was
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: like there's bad on both sides, and.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: That's that always annoys me.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: But I did really love We Get to Raina because
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: it also deals with that. One of the best lines
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: through the trow I didn't get it by quote, but
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: when Rainier is talking about how fathers, you know, basically
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: they inspire you and they ruin you all at once.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: And I felt that on a hard level because my
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: dad was not a deadbeat.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: You know, even though he in your life doesn't mean
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: it's always.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: The best influence.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I guess.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Persince y'all brought up Well, I did, But since y'all
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: also brought her up, I want to talk about that
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: interaction with Erena and and the fucking dragons that ship. Well,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: first of all, this just goes back to show y'all.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Remember they've been telling us this many times over the years,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: but they expect They really made it a point for
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: this season. You can't always control a dragon. This is
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: not how to train your dragon.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: This is damon.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: You could argue he has the most connection with Kara
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Seas and all stuff.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Kacy was like, fuck you, bro, I know something's over there.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta go take you to this, nigga. So that
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: was interesting to be able to watch that someone of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that connection and magnitude with they dragon having no power nothing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That was like, I'm gonna fly.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I want to fly and and and I know some
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: people will will and not me, but some people will say, oh, oh,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: well you see.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: That's you know, you can't fault rain and for having
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: no power. No, nigga, her dragon is a y n There's.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: A big difference between what she has a wild motherfucking
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: dragon versus what Kaxies and the rest of them is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: So that's number one, number two as Damon's child. That
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: this is what why I get so upset when I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: think about her.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You know the you know the the tea when it
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: comes to dragons, you know the rules, you know how
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: this shit works, and you still did what you wanted
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: to do. That's why I get so mad when I
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: think about her and what happened with her and the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: decisions she made. You knew better.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Forget the fact that you were young, uss, you really really,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: really really knew better. He even looked at her like nigga,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: like when she said, well, I just wanted to help,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and he put his hands up like you were fucking.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Raised in the ways.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: How did you not know?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: How did you not know?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: And then she said because I've I've always been left behind.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, never had nothing, So fucking what.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: See, I don't I don't blame her. I blame her
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: parents for.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: The first off, immolated.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: So I mean, war, I'm with you.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: I'm living here for.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like going. But if you're going back to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: season one, because like they said, that's the only thing
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: else I want to say that the show did set
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: up this whole trajectory in Arc with Raina, like she
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you see her whenever they're in Pintos and the Prince
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that's like allowing them to stay at his holding or whatever.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, I want you want to stay here because
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: y'all have dragons, y'all can protect or whatever we.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Want to let me see the line whatever.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Not know.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: The Prince then he's just about money. He was about
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like the renown or whatever. So he was like I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: he was like, I will let y'all stay here for
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: all your days if y'all want to stay here like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you and Damon was like On He's like yeah, like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like down to do it like, and you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Damon was kind of like his wounds from being on
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: exile from his brother, from not wanting to be around
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the throne about like him corrupting ray Nira and him
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: not gonna be able we're gonna be able touch her
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: throne all that stuff. So he's like, look if I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: can start a whole new life out one in Pentos
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: with my kids and my dragon's cool. And Lene is
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the one who was pushing for him to go back
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: because she wants to be around her family. And the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: whole time, Raina is seeing all this and she's like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they only value dragons, like if we're in Pentos, if
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: we're in West Roast, they only care about if you
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: have a dragon. And she was saying too Lena and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: her mom, I don't have a dragon, and her mom
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: was like, oh no, baby, Like you know, there's like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't get ride my first dragon until I was fifteen.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't match with a dragon until then, so like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it, you're only eight, Like, don't like
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: let it, like it make you crazy. And then we
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: get here, she's fifteen and she's like pushing for herself
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to be with the dragon so nobody caught how badly
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: she was suffering from this, like insecurity around not having
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: parents fault.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, this is Damon the monster who is out
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: here being a monster and not raising his daughter.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: That's his fault. You we blame the black man.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: We got to blame and that's fine. That's first fult
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that he didn't raise her. But what how why is
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: her mom's fault?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I don't understand.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, she wasn't there.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: He did. But like, at the same time, like, here's
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the thing. Are you gonna die? Are you feel the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: baby not making it? Are you gonna die now in bed?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Are you just gonna go on and be like take
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: me like are you gonna die of prolonged death or
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: take have an instant death?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Which well I get it, But at the same time,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you do have other daughters who are now you know, we.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Will have other responsibility.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Sure, but if you feel at death's door.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Going to die in childbirth, yeah, but she also could
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: have potentially lived.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Way she was.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Okay, it was over well, all right, but then it
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: falls on damon to dad.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Then it's like your mom's doing You're gonna have to
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: find it, either find him another mom or you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: take on the responsibilities and what did he do?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Like, he's not responsible?
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: This is the point.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you on that, like I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: agree with you, tr degree and my again, my, I
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: know you had some words on this.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: She's fifteen.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I don't like the way that y'all like if Corless existed,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: we have to do this. When we saw Damon and
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Pentose with his children, he was sitting there doing homework
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: with his children, and he was like he had an
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: active relationship with his children that was very fatherly. Now
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Damon himself is very tormented. And I take credit for
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: a man that is not gonna put his trauma on
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: his children and take time go over here and figure
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: my shit out so that I don't negatively affect my family.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Now that's just colorless. I have children. My daughter listens
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: to nothing I say. She but she tells everybody. She
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: listens to everything I say. She tells all her friends. Oh,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: I do listen to my father. My father is my father.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Every day I'm looking at her the same way day, like, ah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: you did what?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: We talked about this, and she has a whole other
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: reason why she's going the other way. And I just
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: got to be like us your life. I mean, I mean,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: I guess if you want to like draw crayons, like
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: if you're like you're twenty five, this is what you're
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: doing with your life. But hey, I have trust in
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: my child that she's gonna make the rices or at
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: a time, at a certain point, she's gonna come of age.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: My My thing that I saw in this is I've
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: never seen Damon be so weak. And it wasn't tormented
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: by spirits weak. It wasn't tormented by the fact that
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: his brother didn't want him to be his heir. It
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: was like a weakness the way he was talking to her.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: He was distrayed, Yes, he was. I never seen him destroyed.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: It started with the dragon. It was literally a whole
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: different sided day man, even from talking to characters like yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: what you're doing? Where we going.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Wild?
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: And that went through the whole scene, even to the
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: point where he's trying to explain to her like yo,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: when he's trying to explain the right narror like oh yeah,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: this is the dragon. He looked so inept. It's just
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: like I've never got that from him. I will never
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: ever ever forgive Raina for sending them kids off and
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: running through the field. I'm sorry, this was your charge
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: to take care of the heirs and here the dragon babies.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Much credit when you did that? You just left them kids.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And that's what I hear what y'all saying about. Oh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that's what I don't think that's anything to do with
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the parents. Oh I didn't want to be left behind.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Oh I value dragons. Everyone's value dragon.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: No one valued me.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Nigga.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: You were charged with the lineage of the targaryage dragon.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't know whether it's not that the explanation
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't good enough for her about why her charge was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: so important. She made it that what she was doing
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't important. Remember when she said to Damon, when Damon
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: said you could still go and go take care of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the kids, and she was just like, and do what
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: protect our fucking flood line?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: But who has told her that? Like, again, that's you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: look around at the Targarians. Look around at the Targarians.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What about the Targarians is like we need to put
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like you're your instant thought is if I take on
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the charge or taking care of the babies, you're protecting
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: something that you're right and that's my.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Set maybe, and that's it literally why I said, well,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't explained properly, but thought she did.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: They made it a.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Point about why they were setting her off and not
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but you felt like you're a loser.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, because we we find this to be the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: most important thing you can do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Ever.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: You don't have a dragon, but you have something greater
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that you can do. You can't raise these children in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the ways because you're the daughter of.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Lanner and Damon, because you were trained in and and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: know what's going on, because you speak for Hilary, have
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Hilary and all this other shit.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: You know you can pass on the culture. And I
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: understand that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You can saying you can sit there again frontal lobe,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: not completely there.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: You can say, well, she wasn't developed mentally.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Enough to understand that, okay, But I just find out
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: wile totay someone didn't explain that, and if they didn't,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: they didn't.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Can't get mad at that. But I'm just like, I.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Just like everyone is self serving and she's not. She's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not explain it in a way where it's self serving
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: what she's saying. She's not like in her brain, it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: does not connect compute. If I do this, this serves
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: me she doesn't like they didn't cause she was young.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm also like, god, damn hella, excuse me.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: It's also I'm young and I learned it from watching
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: you dad. You know. That's the thing, Like else.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Gets respect whenever everybody else in the.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Family is self serving, why shouldn't I be.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone gets whenever they go roally get some respect.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: So my question is this, do we think ray Error
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: really would come down on Raina for what happened when
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: she's stealing?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't I think.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And I did have that question in Tahoe, like my
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Bennis like, yeah, he's just so like Jackson, I think
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it would be really, I think it would know. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: think it would be conflict. Then I don't think it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: would be in the media off with the head type.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: No, definitely a conflict.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Like what you tell Ellison, I would have spared him.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Why he lying.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: My thing is because, especially Tahoe, you brought that up
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: because I felt the same way about Damon. The way
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Damon was just I've never seen him so desperate. Desperate
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: is the best word for it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: And there it is.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And see that's the thing because he knows we are
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: seeing you know, Ray Ray's slide into madness. Like it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: definitely being done better than it was done with Danny.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: But it is that slide, you know. We see at
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: this episode when.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: She when she sends the gold cloaks out to.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: And doesn't say yo, you know, keep it cool.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: It's just like, you know, do what you gotta do,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you know, And these niggas beating niggas in the street,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: so we're seeing it. So sure she would have taken
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: her in and been like, oh my god, you killed
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Jay's you know. But you know, you know she would
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: have had the same conflict that we see with Damon.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: But do you think ultimately she was She would have you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Know, one night, would have woken up in the middle
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: of the night, you know, and then been all mad
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: about it, you know, five minutes later.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: But you know she would already drop that daughter.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: So please, plus you please speak some reality. He's he's lost.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: She won't kill people who disrespect her face to her face, but.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: She different thing. That's the thing though. I feel like, so.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: That's her son though, But there's there's.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So many things on this though, right, because Amen is
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: still at large and he's the one who can bluceras.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: No one knows where him or Vagar.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Is nobody, nobody knows where the like Jace is a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: fresh wound for her. She's still kind of reeling and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: breathing from that. So where that hits for her, I don't,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: We don't know like what her reaction is to that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: When she looks at the head that Damon dropped from
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the table, she just kind of like she doesn't, like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: she fully believes it, but she doesn't. Also she also
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just looks a gas that there's a head on her table.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So who knows, no explanation, which also was stupid a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: demon I gotta say, didn't he said?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: He said, Okay, I found a perth of kol Joe
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: sign Bob and then try to move on, Like can I.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Just said of the way that there's something about Damon
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and finding a scapegoat body that feels like a solution
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to him, because that's what they did for Leanor, like
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the heat. There's a random he found a random guy him,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: threw him in the fire and then had Leanor like
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rode out away. So now like dam it's just kind
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of like we need the same thing again, like I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: just needed I just need a body. It was desperate,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it was body. It was like, let's be real.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It was silly knowing how Raniera is, knowing that she
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: wants the details, knowing she wants to see everything about it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: She even said, she said, I want to look upon
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: my child's killer's face. So and she and he knew that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So for him to be like, oh this is done here,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it is like as clever quote as he is, as
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: he said when he sat down, you knew that sh
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: it was gonna.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Work, bro, And he's not that clever because what's her name?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Miss Andrey is going to find out.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, I don't know if it's even that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: You're already sad?
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: She already sorry. Before the episode ended, she said, who's body?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Who's sad?
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: But she can easily reach out and be like, yo,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: who got burnt up out there, you know, over in
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the veil recently?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't take She's still there and like that's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. She Stiller is the dragon that Raniera
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: has her mind on. So wherever she she's gonna have
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: my eyes on where sheep. Siller is even if that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: she believes that that was the writer. Okay, where's the dragon?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Because the dragon is what everyone remembers is the problem.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: So sooner or later it's all gonna hit the fan,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: whether it's Massaria, it's the one who want to covers it,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: or someone it's just well placed enough to figure out
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: when sheep Stealer. My thing is, how deep of a
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: hole do you think Damon is willing to dig to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: cover up what's going on with sheep Stealer? Like he's
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: gonna keep going out there with trying to catch Raina
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and try to talk to Ray. I mean, that's why
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: that she she heard or got killed in First Bacon
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: because he was a witness.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: He sold the conversation. And that's that's number one.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: It kind of killed two birds with one stone, right,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Like it's like, well, can't have witnesses. And also I
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: need an answer for who's the writer?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Here it is and and I'm saying it's just kind
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: of like you really thought I was gonna wrap it up, bro?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: How Like I know west Thro says the land we're
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: on and like in Tolkien it's Middle Earth?
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: So what is this world called that they're.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: On the whole land, the whole, the whole world, the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: planning the world. I'm just like to call the song
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of Ice and Fire like the I don't know what
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the world itself?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, whatever it is, Damon did whatever's on
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the other side of West Roads to cover this ship up.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Like Damon, you know, you want to talk about digging
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a deep ass hole. Damon will keep digging. Damon in
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: f one of them type of dudes who like, if
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: you catch him in a lie, he's already got his
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: net slide prepared like he is not doing this is
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: not going to end.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: That's the difference between Damon Andicolas. He's doing this for
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: his little girl. He's literally like, yo, I don't give
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: a funk about none of this ship. Fuck y'all can
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: joall can doubt me or you want, but I'm not
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: letting you kill my little girl. I'm not here about
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: none of this ship, you know what I mean. But
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: I do think that this is horrible foreshadowing. It was
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: too easy. You have the missady what's her name? That
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: which no wh whisperer Shane.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: She knows, so Damon is ultimately gonna have to kill her.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It's just I think Jane also knows. And he's the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: one who like, he got to go get to Jane
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the Veil, Jane, Jane Arne.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Of the Veil, the one he got the queen, the
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: queen in the van.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Well she's just queen, yeah, you know, but the lady
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: she knows, she's so and he knows. Now he knows
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: she knows. So I was saying, how how much of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a hole is he willing to do? Because this is
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: gonna just get deeper and deeper.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: How does he know she knows?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Because why she's always wanted a dragon. Everyone knows that
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: she He makes a point to say that this episode,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and then she's like, well I should have sent babies.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Y'all sent me a baby dragon, and now you're taking
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: him back. And then whenever he goes to the Dragon
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: cracks this and kind of fine, sheep stealer in the cave.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: He's gonna know, like he knows that Lady Jane doesn't
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just let anybody stay in the Veil because he's married
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to that house. He knows how they work. He knows
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that they don't just let people do anything. That's why
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: he has a connection with her in the first place.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: That's why rain nearest.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: And that's why I will say, that's why that worked.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: When she said if I get gold, I will leaf
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and immediately she paid that immediately.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: All that's how he also knew, I think even before
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: he saw the dragon.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: As soon as she just gave him the gold.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: He's like, okay, yeah, she got something else.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: She just like, well, he knows in that moment, he
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: knows that she doesn't want him around, like he knows
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that she like, there's a reason why she doesn't want
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: him around.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Why is that? And then she cut him? But I
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: just thought, that's just him.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, but she's used that to her advantage. They're all
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: using what they already know about each other to their advantage.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I understand this is all bad. You have a a
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: king that's still walking around. Obviously the king is was
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: spotted by somebody we don't know who. No, but that
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: that person did y'all see that when that one person
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: went him and the.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, I I wanted to ask about that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, good, Who is the dude who is watching when
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Agon is licking boots?
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Who is that other guy?
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: She can't tell us? It's ship, that's the thing. That
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: person goes and tells somebody. I don't know if he
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: tells Ormond or if he tells Rainero, but that person
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: is telling somebody your king is over here.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: The one I looked at his face and kind of
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: looking like he recognized him.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Ship, yeah he knew. Yeah, So that's he knew.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: And that was my other thing about that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I felt it was like this episode got a little
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: weird with Agon because in that first scene when he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: up on the dead dragon, and then it's like, how
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: did they get out of that?
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: Because them dudes walking.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Up on him, but he did finished this up and
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: dudes like, oh, we got to go, and something in
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: there during the net.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Just walked away. I mean like Larryce was just like, Yo,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: we gotta go.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: We got I guess I guess they just made.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It seem like the guys like they got out of
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: there fast enough.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: I guess some people would have robed the mchill.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But anyway, a later episode, you know how sometimes they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: give us like, uh nothing, and then later on we
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: see the full scene and was like, oh, that's what happened.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Make that leader. This is all bad.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, he would it's a got learning humility at all.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: At all. Throughout this whole process, is a got learning
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: any sense of humility.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: I doubt it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: He learns No, he don't kill all the right catchers.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: He doesn't learn No, my.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Man got burnt up and he ain't learning ship, So
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I doubt it, Like I doubt this is learned.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: You know, kids from the boot ain't gonna learn you
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: after you get cooked.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: That was interesting to me because I want like the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: interaction where it's where Strong gives the purse to the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: guy and he mentioned to Agon that they have to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: be considerate of like narrative and like legacy or whatever,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and for a minute, Agon looks like because when it
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: comes to the idea that like, oh yeah, what I'm
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: found like And this is later when he found out
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: that one Rayniera declared him dead and two that he's
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: saying that Amon killed him, and he was like, well,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: like he's like mad at the idea that Aimond has
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: this bigger figure in storytelling from the in the realm
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that Amon killed him and he's like more powerful and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he's mad that like Rayniera has the power to declare
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: him dead. So he's just like mad about the power
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: this siblings has. He's like I'm ready to buck up,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and larr'ss like, no, think about how you need to
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: play the game and how you need to build your
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: own narrative and build the part of the legacy or whatever,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like you being part of these people and like doing
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the work that can work for you. And he doesn't
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: see that. And the first thing he does whenever he
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: gets pissed off is show that he's like not ready
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: to actually think about, like how do I use this
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: moment to work in my favor and build a legacy
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: among my people? He doesn't think that way, so like,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of course he's not learning anything because if the first
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: chance he gets a moment to get consider what could
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I do to become like beloved by the people, He's
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like it's gone just that quick because he's over here
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: having his ego be in charge and then looking Boots
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like you're never going to learn that lesson.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: But there's a strong connection between his behavior and the
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: faith finding out and then Raynera being the usurper. This
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: is all like it's all working together. Him trying toying
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: with the idea of saying I'm the king, like he
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: keeps like he's toying with it, and you have all
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: of these people that are going through all of this
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: disarray just over the state of the realm Faith already
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: telling her you're not and now they bring it back today. Hey,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: the faith they're not trying to so this is happening.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: We're just waiting for Eggon to be found out, the
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: word to get back to the faith and ray n'arraw
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: to now because they gave her the throne too soon
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: in the season the Throne in episode two, it's not good.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: I was enjoying it. I enjoyed it finally because I
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: felt like the first episode was the finale of the
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: last season, so I was like, you know, all right, fine,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: we we finished the last season. But now I realize, Oh,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: this is gonna go bad for her for real. Mh,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: this is gonna go bad for her for real, for real,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: because he's not learning nothing. He's going to kill that king.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: He's going to kill him, so it's something and then
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: that's gonna blow up into oh, I'm aggon, the King,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: the whisperers, whoever is going to get back to the
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: keep to the faith, and then Ranera is is her
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: legitimacy is going to be probably forever questioned. After that
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: because you lie.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: M hmm, that that brings me to my major and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: this is one of the major points. Like you know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: they talked about major point talking about fathers and all
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: this stuff. The faith, and this is what I had
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned with Porsche last week or maybe the week before,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: about just the level of power that the faith has
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and how that's one of the reasons why they won't
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: legitimize her because and they always tell her, well, you
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: better watch yourself because you know, don't anger the faith, right,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: don't anger the church, the church being its own entity
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of power, and how they go even against the the
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: history and dynasty that is of the Tigerians, right in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the face of dragons. They feel like dragons is dark magic,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: black magic against you know.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: It's just another power against them.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And what they're trying to do is hold on to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the strength of what they feel. Right. And this is
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: repeated throughout even real history about how the churches whole
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: power and get over the people and over the realms
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and even over politics.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: And it's the same thing you're seeing here in Restorers
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Rest their Roads and now to.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Just expand it further.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: You even though we kind of knew finding out that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Ormond is a religious fanatic and he's and being a
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: high tower and being a Porsche of was explaining, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the story set being there and them being kind of
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the high Tower is being directly intertwined with all of that.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: So the step is going to listen and be more
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: aligned with the high towers and anything that the high
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: towers do, because the high towers uphold the powers of
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the faith and the powers of the church, and and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and the seating of the church, if you will, right,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So I think that this towards what you're saying to
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: how hold, this is going to be like the biggest
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: issue and and and particularly because because Agon got no chill,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: this is going to become the biggest threat to raid
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Raniera than anything else.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, this is it. This is the thing. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: her trying to get the Faith to legitimize her or
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: to anoint her and then lying about it is something
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: that you know, the Faith is big on. I don't
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: want to say heresy. I don't know what it's called
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: when you like lie to God, when you lie to
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: the faith plosshmiclasphemy. I don't know if she ever comes
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: back from that. I don't know if she ever comes
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: back from it. When they find out that Agon is alive,
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: whether she kills them or not, I'm not sure if
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: the faith actually recognizes her after that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, they barely recognize her now, so I doubt it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Or smiling that. I hate what you be smiling like that?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Is it something you could tell us that not gonna
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: fucking ruin it?
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: No, man, she don't need to tell us. So that's
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: the thing.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Like Toy was already you know, pointed it out. Ormond
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: is a religious fanatic. He's already apt to accept them.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: You know, he's already got that side down. Agon is
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: out there as a wild card who believes, you know what,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: not really believes. But they're like, all right, cool, we
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: accept that what she said is true. So as soon
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: as they find out that that's not.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: True, they'll rebel. And you know how we've seen what happens.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: When they rebel. You know, they'll do whatever. They don't
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: give a ship who you are. You know, they'll take
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: you right up out of the red keep.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It's kind it's funny because it's like and hearing and
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: talking about it is putting me in the headspace of
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: like how history repeats itself. Yes, and in the world
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of a Song of Ice and Fire, all this stuff
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: happened before or what we saw in Game of Thrones.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So the fact that like what we see echo like
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: what Circe does and what like. So like the Tyrells,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the Tyrrells are from the same region as the high Towers,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: so they have a similar alignment with the faith. And
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: when you think about what's going on, if you think
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: about what the Tyreels did, and think about where the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: high Towers or how the high Towers are moving, you
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: think about what the House Sarson you try to leverage
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that or whatever, you're probably gonna see some echoes because
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Sirsty learned from history and she brought that into her
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: movements and Game of Thrones I can give you back.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I got to get rid of the religious folk because
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: this is a problem. But there's a lot of different
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: things going on there though, because there's like think about
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the layers of how people were seeking for power and
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: they looked at the faith for some kind of allegiance initially,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and then that didn't you know, there's like different echoes
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of things happening. Well, Arman is using his faith and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: all this other stuff too, and we find out what
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: his plan is to raise Darren to be the king
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and that's why. And we also see what Darren actually
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: looks like, because he does not look like that blond
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: hair motherfucker random that they threw to Raniera. Uh all,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: he looks just like Allison. That's number one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: That number one.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting too that like the High Tower,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that the kid that looked like a High Towers, the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: kid she was sent out to be a high Tower.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: I also think it's interesting that he has brown hair
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: and that was that was the telltale thing about Rayniera's
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: children and the fact that she's fucking this guy. Uh
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: the hand.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: Christ I didn't look at that.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: His hair was jet black, but he has his mom's hair.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: But he has a dragon.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing that he has a dragon, So
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: he has to be targeting.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: But so do Rayniera's children. But Rainier is their mom,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: so it works out, you know what I'm saying. But
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: like if for the only thing that makes Alison makes
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Darren actually have to be basically like is because he
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: can have a dragon dragon because the High Towers don't
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: have that bloodline that way, that like ran near it
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: does burgs right, And then like I said, like the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Ormond's big plan and him kind of what's the word like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: he's like putting toxicity into Darren to say the least, right,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Like Darren is his corrupt That's the word I was
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: really looking for. He's corrupting this little nigga.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's different than was in the books, but
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: as far as I can see on the show, he's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: corrupting this little bit like he's a he's a he's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: a nice as he said, he's a nice kid. He
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: says his prayers and he loves his dragon, and he's
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: telling him, Oh, don't be giving the dragon affection.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, what, like, what is have you ever
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: owned a dragon? First of all, tell me you've raised
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the dragon, Then you tell me how much the dragon.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: I don't think that it's gonna play out that way.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, just just from us being a watcher. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: don't think he fucks with Ormond as much as we
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: think he does.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But I think he feels compelled to obviously listen to him.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: You see what the fuck he did?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: This is so and maybe he did it for his
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: own safety because he maybe he's not a stupid young kid,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and he realizes he got a docer and shit, but
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he's kind of listening to his uncle or whatever Orman
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: is to him his cousin. I just want to say that,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: well because you know, but you know whatever, your cousin
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: is older than either basically like an U or or
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: whatever anyway that might be the black wing. Anyways, I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: was thinking about how he whenever he mentions GWayne, because
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: GWayne is his uncle, so and he's someone who's with
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Christian Cole, and like when he mentions GWayne, then you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: see like Darren like perk up, like he has a
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: good relationship with his actual uncle. It's just like right now.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So he's probably been mostly led by GWayne most of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: his life, and like Ormond would only kind of like
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: make sure he has his tutors, make sure he has
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: like all the like the he's award by having all
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: things taken care of, but he wasn't there every day
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and now he's actually under Ormond every day and Ormond's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: pushing him to be a certain way, and that's why
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: he's like GWayne is his like outlet to kind of
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: be nice because Wayne is kind of a better person.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting like Wwayne's with Christian and we
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: saw how Christian responded to a rapist in his camp,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and we see Darren is with Ormond and we see
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: how Ormond responded to a rapist being in his camp
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and that being two.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Different which was also wild as fuck.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: That's also related to how Ormond played that to being
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: part of the faith and how you're supposed to move
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: as like a member of like the faith and the
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: story sept in the seven, like how you're supposed to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: like a woman beat both sides like you're supposed to,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: but she's like no, But he's saying that like my house,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: like like the blacksmith rose above his place in class,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: and so like he was doing. He's moving in the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: faith to guild the man, but he was working for
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: his house.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: To Does anybody disagree with that?
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I undertaking. I'm wondering did he even guild that man?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And what was geld? Meaning?
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: What is that?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Like? Straight?
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, yes, yeah, I think he I think he did
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: exactly what he was supposed to.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: Do you think he did guild that man?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: No?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But no, no, but but you said something else. You
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: think he did what he was supposed to do. And
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: he was supposed to both sides of situation.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: You cannot raise your head. You can. I cannot let
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: you be seen as a low born affecting or putting
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: your hands on a high born. It just the tool
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: that can't rule in that type of weakness. You just can't.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: We gotta think Game of Thrones, we always.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: Got to know that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if he yielded that man, he
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: think I think we see him next week with no
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: gaild and no broken arm.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: No, I think he he I think he's going to
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: do both.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: But that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: But but the really question was what Tohold just which
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: was like, do you think it was legitimate that he did?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: He played both sides, he said, On the one hand,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: as a person who committed a sin in the eyes
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: of the church, you gotta pay.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: And at on behalf of my house. I am of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: royalty or the high born or whatever. You say. We're
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: in charge, and you you raise your hand to the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: people in charge.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I gotta get you too.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I thought.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: But I understand from Game of Thrones perspective.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, do what you gotta do.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I think that it was telling that Darren did not
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: agree with that and absolutely not and I like, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: agree with I agree with Darren, I understand why it
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: was done.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I understand why, but I don't agree.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: With you it. No, yeah, yeah, I agree with I
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: totally agree with you, Porsch you but I just think
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: when you're thinking Game of Thrones, you can't be ned Stark.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: You can't be ned Stark.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Stark is the poster boy for week Ship like everything,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: but that people will treat whenever people mention that Starck
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: in this in this context, in this analogy, it always
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: ends up because oh he was too weak to do something.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: But people honorable people will see that as weak.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: They say that.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: That's saying they say that, And I'm not saying I
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: agree with people saying this week I'm saying this is
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: how people take it. You are honorable in your approach,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: but weak in for example, showing of your family or
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the strength of your hand. Just like how they say, well,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: go ahead, Ben, what you said about No.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: It's just like like we say, it's playing the game.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. That's what I always say. I'm never
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: on the side of the people, you know, anybody's sign.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I'm always about people who play the game right. Like
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Toyad said, you have to look at it from their perspective.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: You can't look at it from the perspective of having
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: morality and good and evil and all that nonsense. It's
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: about do you want to be sitting on that throne
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: or not, you know, And if you want to sit
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: on that throne, like Alison said, you're gonna do stuff
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: that is not agree like Black Panther said.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: You know, a king is often not you know, the
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: good one. It's just how it works out.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: You know, kings are often misunderstood the karas one like you.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Know, I mean even that Ormond said, if I don't
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: do this, they're gonna look at us like we're weak.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: That's said exactly, I have to do this.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: I gotta do this.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I like, I disagree with the I disagree with patriarchy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And that's what the matriarchy is.
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: Don't have to do the same thing.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it would not a matriarchy would not do
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the same thing. I just told you, Just like patriarchy,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: but with women durning it. That's not how matriarchy works.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: In certain is queen, She's still a tool of the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: patriarchy and in certain instances and history in the in
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the history of our world.
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: It has happened like that.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: There's been a woman.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: I get that, but but.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: A woman, Yeah, it's patriarchy with the face of a woman.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: It's just I get you there.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: But okay, to see the problem is the world is
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: a patriarchal society, you know. But hold on, let me
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: finish my standard sentence to ry nearer. Anyone in this instance,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: unless they're willing to take on the world and change
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: that is going to have to deal with the patriarchal society.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: So they're going to have to move.
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: In a way that's going to corrupt them. That's what
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. They're not going to be.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Able to be like, oh, let's, you know, have socialism
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: for everyone. You know, that's not going to work because
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you've got men out here who pintos this host you know, wherever.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: We're undermine you, who will lock you in your own tower,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: even though still going to do whatever.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: You know, the game is because the game is the game?
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: What is the qualities? Very quickly, I still want to
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: get to before I know, we got to leave in
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: the second. But what is the qualities of a matriarchal
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: society versus patriarchal We.
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: Haven't seen it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen it seen we see facets of it.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen an actual matriarchally rhyme society and well
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: in centuries because they're used to much more matriarchal run
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: in societies, especially in indigenous culture. Yes, but colonization happened
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and other things happened that made it so that us
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: our record of matriarchy is very slim because we don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: actually have like histories written and record of like matriarchy's running.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: But there have been different cultures, especially inous culture, instead
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: of matriarchy.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: There are cultures.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Is like there's something came out, Like there's like an
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: island and not the Philippines, but that area where there's
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: a matriarchal society.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: But it's like a small island. But you don't see them.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: You guys. Helena, that's all we heard. Helena.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: The fact that she's pregnant, is that what that is?
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: She?
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, you ain't realize that. Yeah, Helena came up pregnant at.
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: Them, and she wouldn't touch his stomach.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: She remember remember when she was putting they was getting
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: dressed for them.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't, I didn't.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't get that that was I was refused by that, saying.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: So, but her kitties was big, her whole ship was
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: like in gorge, and Alice looked at her like, wait
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a minute, like touch her baby.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: It couldn't because technically, and that's the thing that messes
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: up about this show, like it hasn't been that long
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: of a period between.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Different events happening.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: It could be Agon, you know, like because they said
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: that what she said, Egon kind of ignores me unless
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: he's drunk. And I know that he was drunk the
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: last time he was around her, so I could have
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: had something.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think Helene is the type
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: to just be sleeping with anybody.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know, but people.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: To her right, So.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: So what now what happens? Does this turned Alison back
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: into the villain again because she's kind of been docile.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: She gotta go, that's for sure.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: She be like, no, I'm not gonna let you just
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: killed my grand and daughter. Yeah, this is that thing
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: we gotta watch. We have to watch, right, what's happening?
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: Always seeing all of these cars being stacked against Rayner
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: and and her inability to make real choices to defend
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: her seat on the throne. She's actually she's fucking it
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: up across the board.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I think, so what would be a real choice? When
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: you say real choices, how are you talking about killing niggas?
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: Like, what do you mean? I think killing people? I
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: think actually being a little bit more decisive. I'm still
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: looking at the ghost of Rainera under seventeen years old,
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: the small Rainera that just had a lot more grit
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: and Raynera in the last two seasons has literally just
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: been like flailing her hands, like why what what am
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: I gonna do? Why nobody's respect me? And it's just
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: because of your inability to make real choices that are
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: not going to be favorable to everybody. You're not You
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: can't be liked by everybody. You just can't. And I
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: just don't think that she, as for what we've seen
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: from grown Rainer, has what it takes to sit on
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: the eye and throne, I know, and I think her
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: finding out about this baby, the first thing she should
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: do is put a sword right through Helena the whole thing,
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: get rid of it and lock Alison up. She she
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: has too much. This is a person that literally conspired.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: She's the reason. Alison is the reason, and she has
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: free reign throughout your castle. Why she did this to you?
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna hold you.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's weird that she's just like tries through,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the forest to do whatever she wants. She
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't have free right over the castle. She has the
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: castle certain places, one of the old where the heart
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: tree is, that's like she has that's but yeah, but
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you to what you're saying, Taho. She is the same
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: person who's snuck out of King's landing and made this
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: dragonstone to give ring near the throne. So like she's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: for you to stay in like one wing of the castle.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Why does the one actually can find her? She can
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: slip through wherever she wants.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: And you have whisperers you have, she can get notes out, ravens,
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: whatever she There's ways to do this. We know because Raynera,
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: you snuck in when everybody was looking for you. You
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: snuck in and she snuck out. But you have her
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: the person, Ben, the person.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Can we name one or two things that's actually working
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: in rain near his favor that you think is actually
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: working in her favor?
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Right now, she.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Got the most dragons.
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: Look, I mean that's right.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Now, she got the most dragons does she not the biggest, but.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: The because I don't believe what dragons is on house
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I are.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: We have Vagar Sunfires dead, Darren's dragon who but it's small,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Helena will dragon. Helen ain't been on that damn dragon
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: since since you know, nineteen ninety two.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Helena ain't getting on no damn dragon.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I forgot Helena had a dragon, Helena dragon. Ye, steelers
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: definitely not on her side.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: But you say, I just don't believe it all, and yeah,
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: they're not.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I don't believe in them. I don't believe.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: No because and you go their own way.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, but those are two dragons out of how many
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: other dragons that were here?
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Has she has three dragons?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Kaxi is her own.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Bayla was obviously not counting Marina's and her fucking y
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: n uhdam.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: We gotta stops old as hell and just that phrase
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: at size from our vocabulary.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: But she still is an old ass bastard more than anything.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: So we said four four dragons, she asked, I'm just.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Asking the question, what what does she have against above them?
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: At this point you got a little bit more dragons
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: than the next.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: But exactly because sheep steeler.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Sheep stealer, not for her, not for her, That's what
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. She steers against her.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Well, nobody neutral, but ed.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: Led the Jason's death, so so far sheers on the
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: opposite side. Aimon got a.
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: Dragon, the best dragon back the basket, not the bat.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: The heir has a dragon, Dylon Darren, he has a
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: little dragon.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: So that's three.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: And then you have Off.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Helena, which again Helena is not really gonna get her
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: drag yet, like true.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: But then you have Off and Hugh, who will betray
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: you at some point.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's pretty much she got five dragon versus
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: her four if you really want to count it, mm hmm.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: And having Off and Hugh in your house and they
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: betray you, that's almost twice the stab. That is rustom.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: And they're gonna be able to infiltrate and violate you
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: at your weakest moments for whatever reason. Off just being
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: because he's a drunk, Q because he's being a proud
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: man or whatever. It is just not gonna fall right
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: for her.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: So drunk, you see how he got so upset when
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: she say you can't go to the tavern no more?
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: Boom. Yeah, that's what it is.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: I can't.
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: It's a trunk bum yeah, because I can't even bum
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: around anymore.
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: It's like damn like, yeah, we all right, I know
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: we got to get out of here.
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: But I do have one last question. What do y'all
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: feel about?
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, other than the pure hatred that usually goes
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: around with Christian Cole and his moves this episode and.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: The motherfucking bump.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I hate Cole period, That's what I got for him.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I hate that, nigga. I'm mad. I have to see
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: his fucking face this episode. Like the less coal I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: could see the better.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: But the fuck Cole is the scorpio any scorpios in here, Nah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: He's a motherfucker that. It's all good. They love you
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: so much when they in love with you, but the
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: minute that you they get mad at you, they hate you.
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: They key a car, they will literally they're against you
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: for the rest of your existence. He scorpio like, Cause, nigga,
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: everything that you was mad at with with Grenera you
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: did with it's Alison like times ten and now she's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: the oh the bitch queen Rainer because I wouldn't marry you, the.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Loser. You probably blames every choice that he makes on
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: rainy airt over her fucking Alison. If it went for
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be over here. I wouldn't have told them
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: not to do that. If I weren't for there, I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been over here telling her sons to how
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to freaking jousts like he.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Plays ship on women's period.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: That's why I say he's a fucking loser and I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: hate seeing his fucking face every time.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: But what about that.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: He's like the ray near that he's mad at It
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: is like nineteen year older. That's what I'm saying. That's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the thing that bothers me the most. It's like he's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: been holding onto something. It's like every time people talk
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: about like when guys hold on to the fact they
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: weren't chosen in like middle school or whatever by the heights,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: and now everybody else got it out. Everybody else got
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: to suffer. And it's you didn't like me in high
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: school because I anime no nigga, where you were you
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: have the worst personality, You thought like the worst things
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: were funny. You just I didn't like you. I just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: don't like you as a person.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: They just around the whole way, like Nato nigga that's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: why you was fucking youre fucking crazy.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I can't always stand my hatred is of niggas would
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: be like, oh, she didn't like me because I didn't
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: have no money like you, like a broke bitch, like you.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: You're talking about anyway, That's how I feel about that.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: But even now, like, no nigga, like why would you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: want somebody who has no ambition, you know, who doesn't
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: want things in life?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Like no, just common sense, bro, Yeah, I got it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about Tahoe.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: What about Dwayne?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Is Dwayne gonna at the end this nigga? That's how
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I feel Ormond or Dwayne feels like you know, one
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: of them is at the inn the other one.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: No, GWayne gets killed. Christian Cole is going to be
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: an ultimately a cockroach. Yeah he's He's gonna win when
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: it comes to his just being uh an adversary and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: Dwayne has too much of a symbol of purity and honor.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: He dies again, you have honor.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: Christian Cole kills him.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: I believe it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So GWayne is going to find out something crazy
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: or try to do something, and Christian Cole is going
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: to be a snake and snake him. That's that's what
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: I see.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Do you not think that GWayne, because he's a high tower,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: so as much as he's honorable, he's a high tower,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: and we know that the high towers be skaping. Do
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: you not think that some of that schemer side of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: GWayne is going to pop up at some point? And
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: maybe he's right now, he's just taken in information about
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Christians so they can use it later in some scheme.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: I don't believe that. Maybe you know more than I do.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I think I think he might have that, But like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: how says Cole is just a cockroach, you know, and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: it's like your steam, you know, when you're trying to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: steam on the cockroach, they still run away and then
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: they come back like nah mm hmm.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't see that in GWayne, who was
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  Speaker 5: never introduced as a schemer. He might be from a
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  Speaker 5: family of schemers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like, oh my cousin don't have.
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  Speaker 4: A plan, you know, I think he has too much honor.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he shows up, he's like a white cloak. He
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  Speaker 5: has this on a system that was bound to the
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  Speaker 5: high towers and just to defend their house. But isn't
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  Speaker 5: in the actual around the table trying to move pieces
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  Speaker 5: and spin the balls, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 5: he is, he isn't that? So I think that when
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  Speaker 5: he finds out whatever is going on, we see Christian
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  Speaker 5: Cole stab him literally.
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  Speaker 3: In the Yeah I did, I agree?
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  Speaker 4: I agree?
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  Speaker 6: Dum look on his face.
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  Speaker 1: Any last words or last things about what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: the next episode or anything about the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody want to mention one last thing.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to mention think that people are still
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: confused that because Rainier is the protagonist of the series,
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  Speaker 3: that she's a good person, and I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is, you know, one of those tales
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  Speaker 3: of a protagonist being not the good person as we think.
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  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I don't agree with that, but we
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  Speaker 5: don't have time to argue.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like I say, morality is you know,
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  Speaker 3: relevant in this world. But I think she's going to
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  Speaker 3: do things that people are gonna be like, oh my god,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I can't believe her. He is doing this, and I'm
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: gonna be like, well, yeah, that's just how she was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is what she always was.
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  Speaker 5: You know. In my opinion, life forces you to make
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  Speaker 5: hard choices in that too. Yeah, take away from who
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  Speaker 5: you are as a person. It means you messed up.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: You're like I say this a lot of times, people
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: meet me at a hard time in my life and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: they take that for who I am. But I am
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: now impressing on you. Everything that I'm going through is
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: affecting my character, my aura, my choices, my communication, everything
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: is based of I have this weight on me that
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: you have no idea. You just the otahoe I met.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Tell her he's a fucking asshole. But you didn't know
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: that my god son was murdered last week. You don't
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: know that my mom has cancer. You don't know what
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: the fuck I have that's influencing how I am. And
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: I think that when we talk about Rainerra in that way,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: she means well, yeah, I think her soul, her character
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: is pure. I believe that although she was tormented with
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: fucking her uncle and all that, but ultimately I don't
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: I believe that her charge in her mind is to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: lead as her father led. Yes, she just has way
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  Speaker 5: more things that are against her than it influenced her
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  Speaker 5: to make. As Ben said, some really horrible choices.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, it's it's a you know, she's trying
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: to be mom Donnie in a world.
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  Speaker 6: Filled with motherfucking drums, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard, It's hard, all right.
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