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S8, Ep 15: The Beginner's Mindset: Mac Brown on Embracing Continuous Learning in Fly Fishing · The Articulate Fly

• 0:00
  Hey,
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  folks,
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  it's
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  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  The
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  We're
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  Casting
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  Angles
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  with
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  the
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  man
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  himself,
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  Mac
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  Brown.
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  Mac,
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  how
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  are
• 0:11
  you?
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  I'm
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  doing
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  great.
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  How
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  are
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  you
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  doing,
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  Marvin?
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  As
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  always,
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
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  trouble
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  and,
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  you
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  know,
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  you're
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  just
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  back
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  from
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  teaching
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  on
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  the
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  west
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  coast
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  and,
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  you
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  know,
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  we'll.
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  Our
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  paths
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  will
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  cross
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  again
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  in
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  Lancaster
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  here,
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  I
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  guess
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  not
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  this
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  weekend,
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  but
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  next
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  weekend.
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  And
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  you
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  know,
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  interesting
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  things
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  before
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  we
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  started
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  recording,
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  we
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  were
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  kind
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  of
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  talking
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  about
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  teaching
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  and
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  learning
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  process
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  and
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  all
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  good
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  stuff.
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  And
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  that's
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  just
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  something
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  that
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  kind
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  of,
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  you
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  know,
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  comes
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  to
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  the
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  forefront
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  of
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  your,
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  your
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  mind
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  when
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  you're
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  teaching
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  at
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  all
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  these
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  fly
• 0:38
  fishing
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  shows.
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  And
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  we
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  thought
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  it
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  would
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  be
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  interesting
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  folks
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  about
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  kind
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  of
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  a.
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  A
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  posture
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  for
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  self
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  improvement
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  and,
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  you
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  know,
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  the
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  importance
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  of
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  having
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  a
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  mind
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  like
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  a
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  beginner.
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  That's
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  right.
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  Yeah.
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  The
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  mind
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  like
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  a
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  beginner
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  is
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  a
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  really,
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  a
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  beautiful
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  thing
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  in
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  that
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  they
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  already
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  know.
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  They
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  don't
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  know
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  a
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  lot
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  because
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  they're
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  starting
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  out
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  brand
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  new.
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  So
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  they're
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  really
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  open
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  to
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  filling
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  up
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  their.
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  Filling
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  up
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  their
• 1:02
  mind
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  with
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  all
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  kinds
• 1:03
  of
• 1:03
  new
• 1:03
  things.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  that's,
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  that's
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  kind
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  of
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  the.
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  Usually
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  the
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  one
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  that
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  excels,
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  you
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  know,
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  quite
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  a
• 1:10
  bit
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  in
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  a
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  class
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  or
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  whether,
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  you
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  know,
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  regardless
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  of
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  what
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  type
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  of
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  class
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  it
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  is.
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  And.
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  Yeah,
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  what
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  kind
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  of
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  made
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  me
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  think
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  of
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  going
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  down
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  this
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  rabbit
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  hole
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  was
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  I
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  had
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  several
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  letters
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  from
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  Bellevue
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  and
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  one
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  of
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  them
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  that
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  was
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  in
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  Pleasanton,
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  they
• 1:24
  were
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  talking
• 1:24
  about
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  the
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  fact
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  that,
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  you
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  know,
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  they've
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  been
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  doing
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  this
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  30
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  to
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  40
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  years
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  and
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  all
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  the
• 1:29
  improvement
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  that
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  that
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  brought
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  to
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  them
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  just
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  from
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  a
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  two
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  and
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  a
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  half,
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  they're
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  like,
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  this
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  is
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  my
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  first
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  real
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  lesson.
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  And
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  everything
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  else,
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  I
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  guess,
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  was
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  from
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  reading
• 1:36
  books
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  and
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  YouTube
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  and
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  things.
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  And
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  then
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  they
• 1:38
  realized
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  there's
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  a.
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  There's
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  a
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  bunch
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  more
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  for
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  them
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  to
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  get.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  that
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  makes
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  for
• 1:45
  a
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  good
• 1:46
  talk.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
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  it's
• 1:47
  an
• 1:47
  interesting
• 1:48
  thing,
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  right?
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  Like,
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  not
• 1:49
  to
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  pick
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  on
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  YouTube
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  and
• 1:50
  books,
• 1:50
  but,
• 1:50
  you
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  know,
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  a
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  lot
• 1:52
  of
• 1:52
  people
• 1:53
  buy
• 1:53
  books
• 1:53
  and
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  they
• 1:53
  don't
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  read
• 1:54
  them.
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  Right.
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  Or
• 1:55
  they're
• 1:55
  at
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  a
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  fly
• 1:56
  fishing
• 1:56
  show
• 1:56
  and
• 1:56
  they
• 1:56
  watch
• 1:57
  a
• 1:57
  demo
• 1:57
  and
• 1:57
  they
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  think
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  they
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  know
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  it.
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  And
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  I
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  think
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  the
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  biggest
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  challenge,
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  you
• 2:00
  know,
• 2:00
  technology
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  is
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  great
• 2:01
  in
• 2:01
  the
• 2:01
  sense
• 2:02
  that
• 2:02
  it
• 2:02
  allows
• 2:02
  you
• 2:02
  to
• 2:02
  reach
• 2:03
  people
• 2:03
  all
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  over
• 2:03
  the
• 2:04
  world
• 2:04
  that
• 2:04
  are
• 2:04
  interested
• 2:04
  in
• 2:04
  what
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  you're
• 2:05
  interested
• 2:05
  in.
• 2:05
  But
• 2:06
  sometimes
• 2:07
  quality
• 2:07
  curation,
• 2:08
  for
• 2:08
  lack
• 2:09
  of
• 2:09
  a
• 2:09
  better
• 2:09
  word,
• 2:09
  is
• 2:09
  lacking,
• 2:10
  right?
• 2:11
  Yeah,
• 2:12
  I
• 2:12
  think
• 2:12
  that's
• 2:12
  a
• 2:12
  big
• 2:13
  part
• 2:13
  of
• 2:13
  it.
• 2:13
  And
• 2:14
  I
• 2:14
  wanted
• 2:15
  to
• 2:15
  throw
• 2:15
  in
• 2:15
  one
• 2:15
  thing
• 2:16
  my
• 2:16
  father
• 2:16
  in
• 2:16
  law
• 2:17
  did
• 2:17
  with
• 2:17
  my
• 2:17
  kids
• 2:17
  when
• 2:18
  they
• 2:18
  were
• 2:18
  little
• 2:18
  and
• 2:19
  I've
• 2:19
  used
• 2:19
  this
• 2:19
  quite
• 2:20
  a
• 2:20
  bit
• 2:20
  on
• 2:20
  the
• 2:20
  road
• 2:21
  and
• 2:21
  you
• 2:21
  make
• 2:21
  an
• 2:22
  okay
• 2:22
  symbol
• 2:22
  with
• 2:22
  your
• 2:23
  hand
• 2:24
  and
• 2:24
  you
• 2:24
  see
• 2:24
  all
• 2:24
  that
• 2:25
  little
• 2:25
  circle
• 2:25
  inside
• 2:26
  is
• 2:26
  where
• 2:26
  we
• 2:26
  are
• 2:26
  today.
• 2:27
  And
• 2:27
  what
• 2:27
  we
• 2:27
  know
• 2:28
  today
• 2:28
  about
• 2:28
  something,
• 2:28
  whether
• 2:29
  it's
• 2:29
  casting
• 2:30
  or
• 2:30
  whether
• 2:30
  it's
• 2:30
  about
• 2:30
  math
• 2:31
  or
• 2:31
  whatever
• 2:31
  it
• 2:31
  is
• 2:31
  you're
• 2:32
  into.
• 2:33
  And
• 2:34
  then
• 2:34
  you
• 2:34
  double
• 2:35
  that
• 2:35
  circle,
• 2:35
  of
• 2:35
  course,
• 2:36
  and
• 2:37
  everything
• 2:37
  outside
• 2:37
  the
• 2:37
  circle
• 2:38
  is
• 2:38
  still
• 2:38
  infinite
• 2:39
  amount
• 2:39
  of
• 2:39
  things
• 2:39
  that
• 2:40
  we
• 2:40
  don't
• 2:40
  know
• 2:40
  yet.
• 2:41
  So
• 2:41
  there's
• 2:42
  this
• 2:42
  huge
• 2:42
  thing
• 2:42
  of
• 2:42
  infinite
• 2:43
  space
• 2:43
  of
• 2:43
  what
• 2:44
  we
• 2:44
  don't
• 2:44
  know.
• 2:44
  So
• 2:44
  every
• 2:45
  time
• 2:45
  we
• 2:45
  make
• 2:45
  it
• 2:45
  bigger
• 2:45
  and
• 2:46
  bigger,
• 2:46
  say
• 2:46
  it's
• 2:46
  the
• 2:47
  size
• 2:47
  of,
• 2:48
  you
• 2:48
  know,
• 2:48
  Bryson
• 2:49
  City
• 2:49
  or
• 2:49
  Scarlett
• 2:50
  and
• 2:50
  you
• 2:50
  think,
• 2:50
  wow,
• 2:50
  that's
• 2:50
  a
• 2:51
  lot
• 2:51
  of
• 2:51
  knowledge,
• 2:51
  but
• 2:51
  it's
• 2:51
  still
• 2:52
  infinite.
• 2:52
  Around
• 2:52
  the
• 2:53
  outside
• 2:53
  of
• 2:53
  that
• 2:53
  circle
• 2:54
  is
• 2:54
  all
• 2:54
  the
• 2:54
  things
• 2:54
  we
• 2:55
  don't
• 2:55
  know.
• 2:55
  So
• 2:55
  no
• 2:55
  matter
• 2:55
  how
• 2:56
  big
• 2:56
  that
• 2:56
  circle
• 2:56
  gets,
• 2:57
  point
• 2:58
  being
• 2:58
  is
• 2:58
  there's
• 2:58
  going
• 2:58
  to
• 2:59
  be
• 2:59
  way
• 2:59
  more
• 2:59
  stuff
• 2:59
  that
• 2:59
  we
• 3:00
  don't
• 3:00
  know
• 3:00
  which
• 3:00
  is
• 3:00
  part
• 3:00
  of
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  whole
• 3:02
  fun
• 3:02
  part
• 3:02
  or
• 3:03
  motivating
• 3:03
  part
• 3:03
  about
• 3:04
  learning
• 3:04
  something
• 3:04
  new.
• 3:06
  Yeah,
• 3:06
  I
• 3:06
  think
• 3:06
  it's
• 3:06
  interesting
• 3:07
  too
• 3:07
  because
• 3:07
  I
• 3:08
  think,
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  know,
• 3:08
  that's
• 3:09
  one
• 3:09
  of
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  reasons
• 3:09
  why
• 3:10
  it's
• 3:10
  so
• 3:10
  hard
• 3:11
  for,
• 3:12
  you
• 3:12
  know,
• 3:12
  we
• 3:12
  can
• 3:12
  talk
• 3:12
  about
• 3:13
  intermediate
• 3:13
  casters
• 3:14
  or
• 3:14
  intermediate
• 3:14
  anglers,
• 3:15
  but
• 3:15
  really
• 3:15
  kind
• 3:15
  of
• 3:15
  intermediate
• 3:16
  anybody?
• 3:16
  Because
• 3:17
  to
• 3:18
  make
• 3:18
  that
• 3:18
  jump
• 3:18
  from
• 3:19
  being
• 3:20
  intermediate
• 3:20
  to
• 3:21
  being
• 3:21
  either
• 3:21
  more
• 3:21
  advanced,
• 3:22
  intermediate
• 3:22
  or
• 3:22
  being
• 3:23
  advanced,
• 3:24
  they
• 3:24
  actually
• 3:24
  have
• 3:24
  to
• 3:24
  have
• 3:24
  that
• 3:25
  light
• 3:25
  bulb
• 3:25
  moment
• 3:25
  to
• 3:26
  realize
• 3:26
  what
• 3:27
  they
• 3:27
  don't
• 3:27
  know
• 3:27
  because
• 3:28
  they
• 3:28
  kind
• 3:28
  of
• 3:28
  probably
• 3:29
  are
• 3:29
  approaching
• 3:29
  whatever
• 3:30
  it
• 3:30
  is
• 3:30
  they're
• 3:30
  interested
• 3:30
  in,
• 3:31
  fly
• 3:31
  casting,
• 3:32
  fishing,
• 3:32
  fly
• 3:33
  tying
• 3:33
  or
• 3:33
  whatever,
• 3:34
  thinking
• 3:34
  that
• 3:34
  they've
• 3:35
  done
• 3:35
  it
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  long
• 3:35
  time
• 3:35
  and
• 3:36
  they're
• 3:36
  probably
• 3:36
  95%
• 3:37
  of
• 3:37
  the
• 3:37
  way
• 3:37
  there
• 3:38
  and
• 3:38
  it
• 3:38
  really
• 3:39
  kind
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  slows
• 3:39
  down
• 3:40
  their
• 3:40
  development.
• 3:40
  Right?
• 3:42
  Yeah,
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  think
• 3:42
  that's
• 3:43
  a
• 3:43
  good
• 3:43
  way
• 3:43
  to
• 3:43
  look
• 3:43
  at
• 3:43
  it
• 3:44
  because
• 3:44
  if
• 3:44
  they
• 3:44
  already
• 3:44
  perceive
• 3:45
  that
• 3:45
  they're
• 3:45
  there,
• 3:47
  I
• 3:47
  think
• 3:47
  that
• 3:48
  puts
• 3:48
  the
• 3:48
  stagnant
• 3:49
  wheels
• 3:50
  and
• 3:50
  moat,
• 3:50
  you
• 3:50
  know,
• 3:51
  that
• 3:51
  puts
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  stagnant
• 3:52
  part
• 3:52
  for
• 3:52
  the
• 3:53
  wheels
• 3:53
  turning
• 3:54
  relative
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  say,
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  beautiful
• 3:56
  mind
• 3:56
  of
• 3:56
  a
• 3:57
  beginner
• 3:57
  that's
• 3:58
  open
• 3:58
  to
• 3:58
  putting
• 3:58
  as
• 3:59
  much
• 3:59
  stuff
• 3:59
  as
• 3:59
  they
• 3:59
  can
• 4:01
  into
• 4:01
  their
• 4:01
  quiver.
• 4:02
  And
• 4:03
  then
• 4:03
  when
• 4:03
  they,
• 4:03
  they
• 4:04
  think
• 4:04
  they
• 4:04
  know
• 4:04
  a
• 4:04
  lot
• 4:04
  because
• 4:05
  they've
• 4:05
  been
• 4:05
  doing
• 4:05
  it
• 4:05
  a
• 4:05
  lot
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  years
• 4:06
  or
• 4:06
  they've
• 4:06
  been
• 4:06
  to
• 4:06
  this
• 4:06
  place
• 4:07
  or
• 4:07
  that
• 4:07
  place
• 4:07
  making
• 4:08
  memories,
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  kind
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  puts
• 4:09
  the
• 4:10
  stagnation
• 4:10
  part
• 4:10
  in
• 4:11
  motion.
• 4:11
  So
• 4:12
  yeah,
• 4:12
  one
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  the,
• 4:13
  one
• 4:13
  of
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  things
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  wanted
• 4:14
  to
• 4:14
  bring
• 4:15
  up
• 4:15
  too
• 4:15
  is
• 4:15
  that
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  refer
• 4:16
  to
• 4:17
  it
• 4:17
  a
• 4:17
  lot
• 4:17
  on
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  road
• 4:18
  is
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  article
• 4:19
  off
• 4:20
  the,
• 4:20
  off
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  website
• 4:21
  about
• 4:21
  the
• 4:21
  four
• 4:21
  stages
• 4:21
  of
• 4:22
  learning
• 4:22
  I
• 4:22
  mean
• 4:22
  that
• 4:22
  right
• 4:23
  there
• 4:23
  says
• 4:23
  it
• 4:23
  all.
• 4:23
  People
• 4:24
  just
• 4:24
  need
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  go
• 4:24
  in
• 4:24
  there
• 4:24
  and
• 4:24
  read
• 4:25
  it
• 4:25
  because
• 4:25
  basically
• 4:25
  the
• 4:25
  intermediate
• 4:26
  we're
• 4:26
  talking
• 4:26
  about
• 4:27
  is
• 4:27
  at
• 4:27
  stage
• 4:27
  two.
• 4:28
  It's
• 4:28
  a.
• 4:29
  They
• 4:29
  realize
• 4:29
  finally
• 4:30
  they
• 4:30
  got
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  problem,
• 4:30
  they
• 4:30
  don't
• 4:31
  know
• 4:31
  how
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  fix
• 4:31
  it.
• 4:32
  Maybe
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  need
• 4:32
  some
• 4:32
  help.
• 4:33
  Does
• 4:33
  that
• 4:34
  make
• 4:34
  sense?
• 4:34
  That's,
• 4:34
  that's
• 4:34
  the
• 4:35
  stage
• 4:35
  two.
• 4:35
  There's
• 4:36
  three
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  four.
• 4:37
  Does
• 4:37
  that
• 4:37
  kind
• 4:37
  of
• 4:38
  make
• 4:38
  sense?
• 4:38
  So,
• 4:38
  so
• 4:38
  we
• 4:38
  go
• 4:39
  from
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  beginner
• 4:39
  in
• 4:39
  stage
• 4:40
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• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  trying
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  take
• 4:41
  it
• 4:42
  all
• 4:42
  in.
• 4:42
  And
• 4:42
  stage
• 4:43
  two
• 4:43
  is
• 4:44
  basically
• 4:44
  that
• 4:45
  second,
• 4:46
  second
• 4:46
  form.
• 4:46
  What
• 4:47
  people
• 4:47
  really
• 4:47
  want,
• 4:47
  if
• 4:48
  they
• 4:48
  really
• 4:48
  want
• 4:48
  to
• 4:48
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• 4:49
  themselves
• 4:49
  in
• 4:49
  it,
• 4:49
  is
• 4:50
  to
• 4:50
  work
• 4:50
  towards
• 4:51
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• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  stage
• 4:51
  four.
• 4:52
  Well,
• 4:53
  how
• 4:53
  do
• 4:53
  we
• 4:53
  get
• 4:53
  them
• 4:53
  to
• 4:53
  stage
• 4:54
  four
• 4:54
  if
• 4:54
  we've
• 4:54
  got
• 4:55
  a
• 4:55
  85%
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  the
• 4:56
  people
• 4:57
  we
• 4:57
  meet
• 4:57
  on
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  road
• 4:57
  that
• 4:58
  are
• 4:58
  stuck
• 4:58
  in
• 4:58
  stage
• 4:58
  two?
• 5:00
  Does
• 5:00
  that
• 5:00
  kind
• 5:00
  of
• 5:01
  make
• 5:01
  sense
• 5:01
  at
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  intermediate
• 5:02
  level?
• 5:02
  Yeah,
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  mean,
• 5:03
  and
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  just
• 5:03
  think
• 5:03
  that's,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  in
• 5:05
  so
• 5:05
  much
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  this
• 5:05
  is.
• 5:07
  I
• 5:08
  think
• 5:08
  it's
• 5:08
  true
• 5:08
  for,
• 5:09
  you
• 5:09
  know,
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  have
• 5:10
  talked
• 5:10
  about
• 5:11
  this
• 5:11
  in
• 5:11
  lots
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  different
• 5:11
  ways
• 5:12
  about
• 5:12
  elite
• 5:12
  performance,
• 5:13
  whatever
• 5:13
  you're
• 5:13
  doing,
• 5:13
  whether
• 5:14
  you're
• 5:14
  running
• 5:14
  track
• 5:14
  or
• 5:15
  you
• 5:15
  know,
• 5:15
  archery
• 5:16
  or
• 5:16
  whatever,
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  know,
• 5:17
  the.
• 5:18
  What
• 5:18
  becomes
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  differentiator
• 5:19
  is
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  mental
• 5:20
  component.
• 5:21
  Right.
• 5:21
  Whether
• 5:21
  it's
• 5:21
  the
• 5:22
  posture
• 5:22
  for
• 5:22
  self
• 5:22
  improvement
• 5:24
  or
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  ability
• 5:24
  to
• 5:25
  settle
• 5:25
  your
• 5:25
  nerves
• 5:25
  and
• 5:25
  perform
• 5:26
  under
• 5:26
  pressure.
• 5:27
  Right,
• 5:29
  exactly.
• 5:29
  And
• 5:30
  yeah,
• 5:30
  just
• 5:30
  the,
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  wherewithal
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  have
• 5:33
  quality
• 5:34
  assignment,
• 5:34
  you
• 5:34
  know,
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  where
• 5:36
  we,
• 5:36
  we
• 5:36
  keep
• 5:36
  reminding
• 5:37
  ourselves
• 5:37
  of
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  circle.
• 5:38
  We
• 5:38
  talked
• 5:39
  about
• 5:39
  that
• 5:39
  there's
• 5:40
  things,
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  know,
• 5:41
  that
• 5:41
  we're
• 5:42
  still
• 5:42
  trying
• 5:42
  to
• 5:43
  acquire
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  know
• 5:44
  at
• 5:45
  all
• 5:45
  these
• 5:45
  levels.
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  mean,
• 5:45
  because
• 5:46
  we're
• 5:46
  never
• 5:46
  going
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  know
• 5:46
  anything,
• 5:47
  I
• 5:47
  guess.
• 5:48
  Well
• 5:48
  mention
• 5:49
  Albert.
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  mean
• 5:50
  that's,
• 5:50
  that's
• 5:50
  another
• 5:50
  one
• 5:50
  that
• 5:51
  always
• 5:52
  thought
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  way
• 5:52
  in
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  lot
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  his
• 5:53
  writings
• 5:54
  later
• 5:54
  in
• 5:54
  his
• 5:54
  life,
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  all
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  things
• 5:55
  that
• 5:55
  he
• 5:56
  came
• 5:56
  up
• 5:56
  with,
• 5:56
  Albert
• 5:57
  Einstein,
• 5:58
  that
• 5:58
  there
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  all
• 5:59
  these
• 5:59
  things
• 5:59
  he
• 5:59
  didn't
• 5:59
  know
• 6:00
  and
• 6:00
  time
• 6:00
  was
• 6:00
  running
• 6:01
  out
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  if
• 6:02
  somebody
• 6:02
  at
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  level
• 6:03
  still
• 6:04
  appreciates
• 6:04
  the
• 6:05
  factors,
• 6:05
  all
• 6:05
  these
• 6:05
  things
• 6:06
  which
• 6:06
  I
• 6:06
  think
• 6:06
  we're
• 6:06
  all
• 6:07
  that
• 6:07
  we
• 6:07
  all
• 6:07
  gotta
• 6:09
  realize
• 6:09
  there's
• 6:09
  all
• 6:09
  these
• 6:09
  things
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  we
• 6:10
  want
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  do
• 6:10
  and
• 6:10
  want
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  know
• 6:12
  that
• 6:12
  we're
• 6:12
  not
• 6:12
  going
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  get
• 6:13
  there
• 6:13
  unless
• 6:13
  we
• 6:14
  quit
• 6:14
  acting.
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  mean,
• 6:15
  we
• 6:15
  need
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  go
• 6:15
  back
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  that
• 6:15
  beautiful
• 6:16
  mind
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  a
• 6:16
  beginner
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  get
• 6:18
  there.
• 6:19
  Yeah.
• 6:19
  And
• 6:19
  I
• 6:19
  think
• 6:20
  too,
• 6:20
  I
• 6:20
  think
• 6:20
  the
• 6:21
  amazing
• 6:21
  thing
• 6:21
  is
• 6:22
  even
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  teachers
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  presenters
• 6:24
  learn
• 6:24
  every
• 6:25
  time
• 6:25
  they
• 6:25
  interact
• 6:25
  with
• 6:26
  people.
• 6:26
  Right.
• 6:27
  Because
• 6:28
  you
• 6:28
  realize
• 6:28
  you
• 6:29
  don't
• 6:29
  know
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  all.
• 6:29
  And
• 6:29
  so
• 6:30
  I'm
• 6:30
  always,
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  mean
• 6:31
  a
• 6:32
  super
• 6:32
  interesting
• 6:33
  place
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  see
• 6:33
  it
• 6:33
  is
• 6:34
  in
• 6:34
  like
• 6:34
  fly
• 6:34
  Tying
• 6:34
  like
• 6:35
  it's
• 6:35
  almost
• 6:36
  impossible
• 6:37
  to
• 6:37
  be
• 6:37
  around
• 6:38
  tiers
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  not
• 6:39
  pick
• 6:40
  up
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  trick.
• 6:40
  And
• 6:40
  it
• 6:40
  may
• 6:41
  not
• 6:41
  even
• 6:41
  be
• 6:41
  from
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  most
• 6:42
  advanced
• 6:42
  tire.
• 6:44
  That's,
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  know,
• 6:45
  at
• 6:45
  the
• 6:45
  time
• 6:46
  table.
• 6:47
  That's
• 6:48
  right.
• 6:48
  No,
• 6:48
  there's
• 6:48
  tons
• 6:48
  of
• 6:49
  that.
• 6:49
  That's
• 6:49
  where
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  used
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  spend
• 6:50
  all
• 6:50
  my
• 6:50
  time
• 6:51
  early
• 6:51
  in
• 6:52
  my
• 6:52
  career.
• 6:52
  Just
• 6:52
  because
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  would
• 6:53
  always
• 6:53
  pick
• 6:53
  up
• 6:54
  so
• 6:54
  many
• 6:54
  things
• 6:55
  from
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  tiers.
• 6:56
  You
• 6:56
  know,
• 6:56
  back
• 6:57
  when
• 6:57
  we
• 6:57
  had
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  big
• 6:58
  tying
• 6:58
  conventions
• 6:59
  in
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  early
• 6:59
  90s,
• 7:00
  that
• 7:00
  one
• 7:00
  of
• 7:00
  them
• 7:00
  was
• 7:00
  in
• 7:00
  Asheville
• 7:01
  one
• 7:01
  year
• 7:01
  for
• 7:02
  the
• 7:02
  whole,
• 7:03
  whole
• 7:03
  country.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  meant
• 7:04
  that's
• 7:05
  where
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  met
• 7:06
  like
• 7:06
  Jim
• 7:06
  Stewart
• 7:07
  was
• 7:07
  there,
• 7:07
  Dave
• 7:07
  Whitlock
• 7:08
  was
• 7:08
  there,
• 7:08
  we
• 7:08
  had
• 7:10
  Gary
• 7:10
  LaFontaine
• 7:11
  was
• 7:11
  there.
• 7:12
  You
• 7:12
  go
• 7:12
  along
• 7:13
  with
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  college
• 7:13
  ruled
• 7:14
  notebook
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  you
• 7:14
  could
• 7:15
  sit
• 7:15
  down
• 7:15
  with
• 7:15
  all
• 7:15
  these
• 7:15
  people
• 7:16
  for
• 7:16
  an
• 7:16
  hour
• 7:16
  or
• 7:16
  two.
• 7:17
  You
• 7:17
  could
• 7:17
  sit
• 7:17
  all
• 7:17
  day
• 7:17
  if
• 7:17
  you
• 7:18
  wanted
• 7:18
  with
• 7:18
  one
• 7:18
  person.
• 7:19
  But
• 7:19
  my
• 7:20
  goal
• 7:20
  was
• 7:20
  to
• 7:20
  fill
• 7:20
  up
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  notebook.
• 7:22
  So
• 7:22
  I'd
• 7:22
  go
• 7:23
  around
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  all
• 7:23
  these
• 7:23
  people
• 7:23
  and
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  filled
• 7:24
  up
• 7:24
  a
• 7:24
  notebook
• 7:25
  full
• 7:25
  of
• 7:25
  just
• 7:25
  things
• 7:26
  that
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  would
• 7:26
  have
• 7:26
  never
• 7:27
  learned
• 7:27
  from
• 7:27
  any
• 7:28
  books.
• 7:28
  Of
• 7:28
  course
• 7:28
  that
• 7:29
  was
• 7:29
  way
• 7:29
  before
• 7:29
  YouTube.
• 7:31
  So
• 7:31
  that
• 7:31
  notebook
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  still
• 7:32
  hugely
• 7:33
  invaluable
• 7:34
  to
• 7:34
  me.
• 7:34
  I
• 7:34
  still
• 7:34
  find
• 7:34
  myself
• 7:35
  kicking
• 7:35
  back
• 7:35
  through
• 7:36
  there
• 7:36
  and
• 7:37
  remembering
• 7:38
  it
• 7:38
  brings
• 7:38
  stuff
• 7:38
  back
• 7:39
  like
• 7:39
  once
• 7:39
  I
• 7:39
  see
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  in
• 7:39
  writing,
• 7:40
  you
• 7:40
  know
• 7:40
  what
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  learned
• 7:41
  from
• 7:41
  that
• 7:42
  one
• 7:42
  event.
• 7:43
  So
• 7:43
  yeah,
• 7:43
  I
• 7:44
  mean
• 7:44
  I
• 7:44
  think
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  that's
• 7:45
  a,
• 7:45
  a
• 7:46
  really
• 7:46
  good
• 7:46
  way
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  do
• 7:47
  it
• 7:47
  like
• 7:47
  with
• 7:47
  tires
• 7:48
  is
• 7:48
  take
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  notebook.
• 7:48
  You're
• 7:49
  not
• 7:49
  going
• 7:49
  to
• 7:49
  remember
• 7:49
  it,
• 7:49
  just
• 7:49
  watching
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  bunch
• 7:50
  of
• 7:50
  tires
• 7:51
  and
• 7:52
  recall
• 7:52
  it
• 7:52
  all.
• 7:52
  Unless
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  write
• 7:53
  it
• 7:53
  down,
• 7:53
  you
• 7:53
  know.
• 7:54
  Yeah.
• 7:54
  Or
• 7:54
  use
• 7:55
  your
• 7:55
  phone
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  take
• 7:55
  pictures.
• 7:56
  But
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  know,
• 7:56
  we're
• 7:56
  kind
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  in
• 7:57
  the
• 7:57
  home
• 7:57
  stretch,
• 7:57
  right.
• 7:58
  So
• 7:58
  you
• 7:58
  know,
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  two
• 7:59
  weeks
• 7:59
  we'll
• 7:59
  have
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  last
• 8:00
  fly
• 8:00
  fishing
• 8:01
  show
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  2026
• 8:02
  in
• 8:02
  Lancaster.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  suspect
• 8:04
  you're
• 8:04
  probably
• 8:04
  doing
• 8:04
  the
• 8:05
  same
• 8:05
  thing
• 8:05
  you
• 8:05
  normally
• 8:05
  do.
• 8:06
  You've
• 8:06
  got
• 8:06
  your
• 8:06
  day
• 8:06
  before
• 8:07
  class,
• 8:07
  right.
• 8:07
  Your
• 8:07
  all
• 8:08
  day
• 8:08
  class
• 8:08
  and
• 8:09
  then
• 8:09
  you're
• 8:09
  probably
• 8:09
  teaching
• 8:10
  some
• 8:10
  classes
• 8:10
  at
• 8:10
  the
• 8:11
  show
• 8:11
  and
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  know,
• 8:12
  I'll
• 8:12
  be
• 8:12
  doing
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  same
• 8:12
  thing.
• 8:13
  I've
• 8:13
  got
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  casting
• 8:13
  class
• 8:14
  and
• 8:14
  I've
• 8:14
  got
• 8:14
  a
• 8:14
  presentation
• 8:15
  as
• 8:15
  well.
• 8:16
  Oh
• 8:16
  yeah,
• 8:17
  that'll
• 8:17
  be,
• 8:17
  that'd
• 8:17
  be
• 8:18
  fun.
• 8:18
  I'm
• 8:18
  looking
• 8:18
  forward
• 8:18
  to
• 8:19
  heading
• 8:20
  up
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  Lancaster
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  yeah,
• 8:21
  the
• 8:22
  all
• 8:22
  day
• 8:22
  classes
• 8:22
  on
• 8:23
  Friday
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  then
• 8:23
  of
• 8:23
  course
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  show
• 8:24
  Saturday
• 8:24
  and
• 8:25
  Sunday
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  looking
• 8:27
  forward
• 8:27
  to
• 8:27
  getting
• 8:27
  up
• 8:27
  there
• 8:28
  and
• 8:28
  meeting
• 8:29
  some
• 8:29
  new
• 8:29
  folks.
• 8:30
  Yeah,
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  I
• 8:31
  will,
• 8:31
  I'll
• 8:31
  drop
• 8:32
  links
• 8:32
  in
• 8:32
  the
• 8:32
  show
• 8:32
  notes
• 8:32
  for
• 8:33
  signup
• 8:33
  stuff
• 8:33
  folks.
• 8:34
  But
• 8:34
  at
• 8:34
  least
• 8:34
  from
• 8:35
  what
• 8:35
  I'm
• 8:35
  doing,
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  guess
• 8:36
  Saturday
• 8:37
  morning
• 8:37
  I've
• 8:37
  got,
• 8:37
  I
• 8:38
  think
• 8:38
  one
• 8:38
  of
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  first
• 8:38
  presentations.
• 8:39
  I've
• 8:40
  got
• 8:40
  my
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  know,
• 8:41
  seasonal
• 8:41
  approach
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  trout
• 8:42
  fishing.
• 8:43
  Right.
• 8:43
  Pretty.
• 8:43
  It's
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  pretty
• 8:44
  basic
• 8:44
  thing,
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  think,
• 8:45
  to,
• 8:45
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:46
  if
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  just
• 8:46
  ask
• 8:46
  yourself
• 8:47
  what
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  food's
• 8:47
  doing,
• 8:48
  what's
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  trout
• 8:48
  doing,
• 8:48
  so
• 8:49
  what
• 8:49
  should
• 8:49
  you
• 8:49
  do?
• 8:49
  And
• 8:49
  we
• 8:50
  just
• 8:50
  walk
• 8:50
  through
• 8:50
  that,
• 8:50
  through
• 8:50
  all
• 8:51
  four
• 8:51
  seasons.
• 8:51
  But
• 8:51
  then
• 8:52
  Saturday
• 8:53
  afternoon
• 8:53
  I'm
• 8:53
  teaching
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  same
• 8:55
  introductory
• 8:56
  casting
• 8:56
  class
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  taught
• 8:57
  in
• 8:58
  Edison
• 8:58
  that
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  worked
• 8:59
  on
• 8:59
  together,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:00
  where
• 9:00
  it's
• 9:00
  really
• 9:00
  probably
• 9:01
  2/3
• 9:02
  classroom,
• 9:02
  one
• 9:02
  third
• 9:02
  practical.
• 9:03
  So
• 9:04
  still
• 9:04
  spaces
• 9:04
  in
• 9:04
  both
• 9:05
  of
• 9:05
  those.
• 9:05
  Would
• 9:06
  love
• 9:06
  for
• 9:06
  you
• 9:06
  to
• 9:06
  join
• 9:06
  me.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  know
• 9:07
  Mac,
• 9:07
  when
• 9:08
  you
• 9:08
  get
• 9:08
  back,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:09
  know,
• 9:09
  it's
• 9:09
  kind
• 9:09
  of
• 9:10
  like
• 9:11
  you're
• 9:11
  full
• 9:11
  born
• 9:11
  to,
• 9:12
  you
• 9:12
  know,
• 9:12
  schools
• 9:13
  and
• 9:13
  everything.
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  think
• 9:13
  you've
• 9:13
  got
• 9:14
  a
• 9:14
  school
• 9:14
  coming
• 9:14
  up
• 9:14
  like
• 9:15
  maybe
• 9:15
  that
• 9:15
  next
• 9:15
  weekend
• 9:16
  or
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  weekend
• 9:16
  after
• 9:16
  that.
• 9:16
  You
• 9:16
  want
• 9:17
  to
• 9:17
  let
• 9:17
  folks
• 9:17
  know
• 9:17
  about
• 9:17
  that
• 9:18
  and
• 9:18
  kind
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  how
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  get
• 9:19
  on
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  educational
• 9:20
  calendar,
• 9:20
  the
• 9:20
  guide
• 9:20
  calendar
• 9:21
  and
• 9:21
  the
• 9:21
  casting
• 9:22
  lesson
• 9:22
  calendar
• 9:23
  coming
• 9:23
  into
• 9:23
  spring.
• 9:25
  Yeah,
• 9:25
  that'd
• 9:25
  be
• 9:25
  good.
• 9:26
  macbrownflyfish.com.
• 9:28
  That'll
• 9:28
  have
• 9:28
  the
• 9:29
  link
• 9:29
  up
• 9:29
  under
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  far
• 9:31
  right
• 9:31
  column
• 9:31
  under
• 9:32
  specialty
• 9:32
  classes.
• 9:33
  And
• 9:33
  that's
• 9:33
  where
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  can
• 9:33
  get
• 9:34
  into
• 9:34
  like
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  guide
• 9:35
  schools,
• 9:35
  the
• 9:35
  two
• 9:36
  day
• 9:36
  casting
• 9:36
  schools.
• 9:37
  There's
• 9:37
  a
• 9:37
  lot
• 9:37
  of
• 9:37
  three
• 9:37
  day
• 9:38
  schools
• 9:38
  with
• 9:39
  wet
• 9:39
  fly,
• 9:39
  dry
• 9:40
  fly
• 9:41
  nymphing.
• 9:42
  Those,
• 9:42
  those
• 9:42
  are
• 9:42
  all
• 9:43
  dedicated
• 9:43
  just
• 9:43
  to
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  one
• 9:44
  aspect.
• 9:44
  Not,
• 9:45
  not
• 9:45
  trying
• 9:45
  to
• 9:46
  cover
• 9:46
  everything
• 9:46
  in
• 9:46
  those
• 9:47
  three
• 9:47
  days.
• 9:48
  So
• 9:48
  if,
• 9:48
  if
• 9:48
  somebody
• 9:49
  says
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  really
• 9:49
  want
• 9:49
  to
• 9:49
  get,
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  know,
• 9:51
  familiar
• 9:51
  with,
• 9:52
  with
• 9:52
  one
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  those
• 9:53
  and
• 9:53
  that's
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  one
• 9:53
  to
• 9:54
  look
• 9:54
  at,
• 9:54
  you
• 9:55
  know,
• 9:55
  for
• 9:55
  that.
• 9:55
  But
• 9:55
  really,
• 9:56
  in
• 9:56
  my
• 9:56
  opinion,
• 9:57
  I
• 9:58
  mean
• 9:58
  they're
• 9:58
  all,
• 9:58
  they're
• 9:59
  all
• 9:59
  fun
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  teach
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  all.
• 10:00
  But
• 10:00
  really
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  think
• 10:00
  the
• 10:01
  two
• 10:02
  day
• 10:02
  school
• 10:02
  is
• 10:03
  the
• 10:03
  most
• 10:03
  valuable
• 10:04
  personally.
• 10:04
  Obviously,
• 10:05
  if
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  would
• 10:06
  be
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  this
• 10:06
  rodeo
• 10:07
  going
• 10:07
  around
• 10:07
  the
• 10:08
  country
• 10:08
  doing
• 10:08
  mostly
• 10:08
  casting,
• 10:09
  casting,
• 10:09
  casting.
• 10:10
  Because
• 10:11
  we
• 10:11
  can't
• 10:11
  do
• 10:11
  any
• 10:11
  of
• 10:11
  these
• 10:12
  techniques
• 10:12
  if
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  can't
• 10:13
  cast.
• 10:13
  So.
• 10:13
  So
• 10:14
  in
• 10:14
  my
• 10:14
  opinion,
• 10:14
  that's
• 10:14
  where
• 10:15
  it
• 10:15
  all
• 10:15
  starts.
• 10:15
  If
• 10:15
  we
• 10:15
  can't
• 10:16
  get
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  fly
• 10:16
  to
• 10:16
  where
• 10:16
  we're
• 10:17
  trying
• 10:17
  to
• 10:17
  be,
• 10:17
  then
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  probably
• 10:18
  need
• 10:18
  to
• 10:18
  fix
• 10:19
  that
• 10:19
  first,
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  know.
• 10:20
  Yeah,
• 10:21
  absolutely.
• 10:21
  And
• 10:21
  so
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  will,
• 10:23
  I'll
• 10:23
  make
• 10:23
  sure
• 10:23
  that
• 10:23
  all
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  stuff's
• 10:24
  in
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  show
• 10:24
  notes
• 10:25
  too.
• 10:25
  And
• 10:25
  you
• 10:25
  know
• 10:25
  folks,
• 10:26
  if
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  can't
• 10:26
  make
• 10:26
  it
• 10:26
  to
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  shows,
• 10:28
  you
• 10:28
  know,
• 10:29
  it's
• 10:29
  starting
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  warm
• 10:29
  up
• 10:29
  here
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  our
• 10:30
  part
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  the
• 10:30
  world.
• 10:30
  And
• 10:31
  what
• 10:31
  that
• 10:31
  really
• 10:31
  means,
• 10:31
  like
• 10:32
  on
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  Tennessee
• 10:32
  tail
• 10:33
  waters
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  some
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  mountain
• 10:35
  streams
• 10:35
  is
• 10:35
  expect
• 10:35
  to
• 10:36
  start
• 10:36
  seeing.
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  know
• 10:37
  people
• 10:37
  have
• 10:37
  already
• 10:37
  started
• 10:38
  seeing
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  little
• 10:38
  black
• 10:38
  stones
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  blue
• 10:39
  wing
• 10:40
  olives.
• 10:41
  Yeah.
• 10:41
  And
• 10:41
  what
• 10:41
  I'm
• 10:42
  going
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  try
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  do
• 10:42
  this
• 10:42
  week
• 10:43
  before
• 10:43
  I
• 10:43
  head
• 10:43
  to
• 10:43
  Lancaster,
• 10:44
  this
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  one
• 10:44
  of
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  best
• 10:45
  times
• 10:45
  of
• 10:45
  year
• 10:45
  for.
• 10:46
  For
• 10:46
  Quill
• 10:47
  Gordon
• 10:47
  starting
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  come
• 10:48
  off.
• 10:48
  It'll
• 10:48
  wake
• 10:48
  all
• 10:48
  the
• 10:49
  big
• 10:49
  fish
• 10:49
  up
• 10:49
  out
• 10:49
  of
• 10:49
  wintertime
• 10:50
  on
• 10:50
  these
• 10:50
  wild
• 10:50
  streams.
• 10:51
  And
• 10:51
  so
• 10:52
  I'm
• 10:52
  gonna
• 10:52
  go
• 10:52
  chase
• 10:53
  and
• 10:53
  try
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  just
• 10:53
  throw
• 10:53
  up
• 10:54
  top
• 10:55
  a
• 10:55
  bunch
• 10:55
  the
• 10:56
  next.
• 10:56
  The
• 10:56
  next
• 10:56
  week
• 10:57
  before
• 10:57
  Lancaster.
• 10:58
  And
• 10:58
  the
• 10:59
  Quill's
• 10:59
  probably
• 10:59
  My
• 11:00
  favorite
• 11:00
  dry
• 11:00
  fly
• 11:00
  hatch
• 11:01
  of
• 11:01
  the
• 11:01
  year.
• 11:02
  Yeah,
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  funny
• 11:03
  thing,
• 11:03
  too,
• 11:03
  folks,
• 11:03
  Is
• 11:03
  remember
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  the
• 11:04
  nymphs
• 11:04
  Are
• 11:04
  as
• 11:05
  big
• 11:05
  as
• 11:05
  they're
• 11:05
  ever
• 11:05
  gonna
• 11:05
  be
• 11:06
  this
• 11:06
  year,
• 11:06
  because
• 11:06
  every
• 11:07
  successive
• 11:07
  hatch
• 11:08
  throughout
• 11:08
  the
• 11:08
  season
• 11:09
  Is
• 11:09
  gonna
• 11:09
  get
• 11:09
  smaller
• 11:09
  and
• 11:10
  smaller.
• 11:10
  So
• 11:10
  this
• 11:10
  is
• 11:10
  when
• 11:11
  those
• 11:11
  14s
• 11:11
  and
• 11:11
  16s
• 11:12
  will
• 11:12
  really
• 11:12
  work
• 11:12
  for
• 11:13
  you.
• 11:14
  That's
• 11:14
  right.
• 11:14
  Yeah.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:16
  some
• 11:16
  of
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  quills
• 11:16
  Will
• 11:16
  be,
• 11:17
  like,
• 11:17
  size
• 11:17
  12.
• 11:18
  A
• 11:18
  lot
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  them
• 11:19
  will
• 11:19
  be,
• 11:19
  like,
• 11:19
  as
• 11:19
  big
• 11:19
  as
• 11:20
  size
• 11:20
  12.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
  that's
• 11:21
  just
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  beauty
• 11:21
  about
• 11:22
  that,
• 11:22
  Is
• 11:22
  they're
• 11:23
  on
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  water
• 11:23
  so
• 11:24
  long,
• 11:25
  when
• 11:25
  they
• 11:26
  come
• 11:26
  up
• 11:26
  to
• 11:26
  harden
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  wings,
• 11:27
  sometimes
• 11:27
  20
• 11:27
  minutes,
• 11:28
  depending
• 11:28
  on
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  air
• 11:28
  temperature,
• 11:29
  but
• 11:29
  it's
• 11:29
  usually
• 11:29
  around
• 11:30
  15
• 11:30
  to
• 11:30
  20
• 11:30
  minutes
• 11:31
  at
• 11:31
  a
• 11:31
  time
• 11:31
  they
• 11:31
  float.
• 11:32
  So
• 11:32
  that's
• 11:33
  where
• 11:33
  they're
• 11:33
  going
• 11:33
  to
• 11:33
  get
• 11:33
  preyed
• 11:34
  upon.
• 11:34
  So
• 11:34
  it's
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  dry
• 11:34
  fly
• 11:35
  paradise
• 11:35
  with
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  Quill
• 11:36
  Gordon.
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:37
  absolutely.
• 11:38
  So,
• 11:38
  folks,
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  know,
• 11:38
  if
• 11:38
  you
• 11:38
  can
• 11:39
  get
• 11:39
  to
• 11:39
  Lancaster
• 11:39
  and
• 11:40
  see
• 11:40
  us
• 11:40
  next
• 11:40
  weekend,
• 11:41
  that'd
• 11:41
  be
• 11:41
  awesome.
• 11:42
  But
• 11:42
  if
• 11:42
  you
• 11:42
  can't
• 11:42
  and
• 11:42
  you
• 11:43
  can
• 11:43
  get
• 11:43
  out
• 11:43
  and
• 11:43
  fish,
• 11:43
  that's
• 11:44
  great.
• 11:44
  And
• 11:44
  if
• 11:44
  it's
• 11:44
  still
• 11:44
  cold
• 11:44
  where
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  are,
• 11:45
  Tie
• 11:46
  flies.
• 11:46
  Tight
• 11:47
  lines,
• 11:47
  everybody.
• 11:48
  Tight
• 11:48
  lines,
• 11:48
  Mac.
• 11:49
  Tight
• 11:50
  lines.
• 11:50
  Marvin.