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Prison Playbook | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 23 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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I'm Jessica and this is a TC presents debauch.
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He Rambles were a couple of friends review Korean dramas.
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And on today's episode, I have a returning guest Curtis from the
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effectuation Cast. Welcome back.
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Curtis. Hey, hey back.
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Yeah, it's good to see you again.
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Good to have you back. This has been a long time
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coming. We had a great time.
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Last time you were here for the startup review and there was a
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little bit of like contention like with you know, Jean I'm so
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sorry. We're still friends, everyone
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friends are good, we had a great time on the podcast episode last
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time you here, so if you want and you haven't listened to it,
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scroll back in your podcast, for you to give it a listen.
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Curtis, you were just here in my neck of the woods.
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Yeah. We could have done this in
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person. We could have but I mean you
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know it's your vacation. We're not going to podcasts
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while you're on vacation with your family, but I hear you had
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a wonderful time in Orlando. Yeah, who knew yeah, who do have
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a, but what else do we have here?
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Like that's it. Oh yeah.
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It was good because it was kind of a trip of a lifetime because,
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you know, my wife's a big Disney fan and we're here in
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California, so we get down to Disneyland once in a while but
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never. Disney World.
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So that was a new. The weather was.
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All right. Okay.
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And kill us. Didn't kill us.
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Yeah, it rained a little but we didn't get really stranded or
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anything because of the rain. So that's good.
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Is the summer rains are really kind of bipolar like it'll be
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like 3 p.m. nothing Clear, Blue, Skies, hot outside, and then 305
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like a massive thunderstorm like you feel like you're gonna get
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wiped off the face Elysium. Yes, it is fast and it's in kind
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of intense because it's always like thunderstorms and stuff,
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but I'm so glad you had wonderful weather and you had a
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great time with the mouse. You know, outing Kissimmee like
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Buena Vista, Rico actually works for Disney now so he's all over
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there. All the time I was looking for
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him you were looking at actually fun fact by the time this
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episode comes out, this is old news.
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But on Monday we're he was like oh yeah.
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Like we have this cast. I forgot what it's called, but
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it's like an event where all the cast members kind of, like,
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throw in their lot and see if they can get in to some coveted
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spots for basically Park admission, and it's been really
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like lucrative. Because, of course, the pandemic
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has kind of made things different at Disney for the cast
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members, and like their perks and stuff.
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And so this is like a great night.
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He said, like from 7 p.m. to 1 a.m. we basically like cast
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members and one guest their one guest have the park to Moves.
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And we're like I was like freaking out.
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Like you toys like you want to go and I was like are you
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joking? Yes you like it's Monday night
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and I was like I do not care. I will go.
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I'm so excited for that. If you live in Orlando you
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everyone knows someone right. Like oh yeah is it impossible to
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not know someone who works for Disney at that point?
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I think it is mostly because I think Disney employees.
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I want to say like 25,000 people, I think it's I think
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it's my looking at more things like Well, yeah, so that's a ton
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of people that's a ton Orlando in this one spot.
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So yeah, chances are pretty high.
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That. You might know someone who works
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for Disney or has worked for Disney.
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I think one of my roommates in college was, actually, she hung
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out with Mickey, I don't know. Okay.
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Have you heard of like this expression?
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So if they play that character, they're not while they're
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employed with the, you know, Disney and playing this
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character. They're not allowed to say that
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they do that. So they'll say, oh, I'm Hanging
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out with Mickey from 1 to 3 p.m. at Magic Kingdom.
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If you want to stop by it means they're working from that time
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as that character. But yeah she was Mickey and that
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blew my mind because I was like Mickey's played by a girl that's
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like yeah I don't know, 4 foot 8, it's like a short person as
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well. So I was like blew my mind.
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But yeah yeah no I was worried for them though because you know
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it's Hot 97 degrees testing. It's really hot outside.
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I think there's like there's a limit to how long they can do it
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right now. Yeah they have.
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They have Is it 30 minutes? Yeah, because otherwise I'll
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just like fate in there and that's not a good look, either.
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That's not a good look. All right, so we're gonna stick
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right into the okay. Yeah, actual reason why were we
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That's a brand-new basically. Okay.
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So anyway, all the drama that we're reviewing today.
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Is prison Playbook brr, brr brr, brr, brr, brr, brr.
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So, read the my drama synopsis it reads, can Jackie.
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Look a famous baseball. Player is arrested after using
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excessive force, while chasing a man trying to sexually assault,
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his sister shockingly to him in the rest of the nation, he is
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sentenced to a year in prison there.
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He meets his childhood friend and fellow baseball player, eju
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know who gave up on baseball after a car accident, but now is
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a prison guard and one of jelks Biggest fans, the drama revolves
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around j-hooks time in prison, as well as the prisoners, he
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meets and events that take place.
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There it originally aired from November to December, 2012,
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November, 2017 to January 2018. It's 16 episodes long and we
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watched it on Netflix, whose it's currently available on
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Netflix. So it was directed by the same
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director from the reply series and Hospital playlist.
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She and we'll know he has basically been Working since
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2012 on these like franchises. I feel like these are franchises
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so legendary. Yeah, legendary franchises
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reply. 97, 94-88 and both seasons of Hospital playlist.
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So, he's got a lot of Ensemble casts under his belt.
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Yeah, slice-of-life ensemble cast.
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And then this, you can usually just grab his stuff, pretty
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easily. It's like you know, five
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friends. That are doctors.
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Yes, that's it. You know, you or five friends in
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the same neighborhood. Good on the same street.
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Guy goes to jail, you know? Like that's the plot.
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Yeah, it's great. It's great and it's written by
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Jung bohyun. And he wrote Rocket Boys from 20
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21. So I feel like these are kind of
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good good people to helm this. They have similar Styles.
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Yeah. And of course we have it stars
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Pockets. Ooh, as Kim Jae hyuk, he's been
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in a bunch of stuff movies and TV, but I would say that I
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watched him in time to hunt from 2020, which is, I think Netflix
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original movie, and he's like really scared me because he's
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the one hunting, the protagonist in The yeah, Booyah.
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He was really scary and then, of course he was just in money.
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Heist, Korea, joint, economic area, squid game, of course, and
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all throughout legend of the blue sea, is because of people
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apparently love that show. I liked him in money, heist, in
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Squid. You, I never watched money.
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Highest, I just didn't have the time, and I felt like I needed
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to watch the original Money hyah.
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First and then watch the Korean money highest maybe and I heard
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like kind of I don't know bad things about the Korean money.
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High School is what not bad things that it was bad bad
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things because it was just the same as the original like money
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highest. So I was like, oh that sucks.
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But I think he's a good villain. Like I think he I honestly think
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he's better as a villain. I think so you know what?
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I feel the same way because after watching him and Squid
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game and in time to hunt that movie, I was just like whoa to
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see him as You know, sympathetic character in this.
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I was like this is kind of weird.
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Yeah, yeah. So his BFF in the prison the
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other prison guard is Jung. Hyung.
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Oh man. This is difficult.
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Jung kyung. Ho, and he plays he's, you know,
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of course, he is our cardiologist from hospital
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playlist, both seasons. He's been in life on Mars.
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Missing nine beating again heartless city which is a Noir
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crime drama. I One of the only ones that
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there are engage Rama. So I'd definitely watch
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heartless City from 2013, that one like kind of blew me away.
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I was like, whoa, they make this kind of thing, I think you
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really like, you like life on Mars, right?
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Yeah, yeah, I mentioned that last time when I really liked
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it, I mean, if you can, if you eat ignore the fact that signal
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came out right before it, ah, but he's really good like, you
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know, he was my favorite character in hospital playlist
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as well. He's really good, he's great, I
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think he's really versatile and Who's he's dating?
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One of the SNSD members, he's like a long term.
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Oh my God, I forgot her name. Oh, yeah, I got a Google is yes.
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But she was in anti-fan. So I Married an auntie fan, a
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show. No move to Heaven.
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She was also like a side character in that.
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Yeah. Oh my God, I forgot her name.
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If you're looking it up and I'll keep going, so you keep good,
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okay. So this show also Stars Crystal
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as Kim. Ji.
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Oh, She's been in police University, bride of Quebec, The
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Heirs bunch of stuff, of course, she's an idol as well.
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She used to be an F of f of x that always, like throws me
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because it's FX, but then I have to like, put on my math cap and
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be like, no, it's f of x. So she's good as well.
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What do you think, San Francisco?
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Yeah, use have sat here like that.
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She was born in San Fran. Yeah, Jessica Jessica & Krystal
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were born in San Francisco and then they went to Korea on
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vacation And a talent scout saw them.
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Yeah, beautiful sisters. Very talented sisters, Jessica &
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Krystal. I just like the other not the
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other day but I don't when I say the other day could be from
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yesterday till like 3 years ago. So when I decide I mean to say
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that a few months ago I was talking with Mina from Kpop
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bookshelf podcast and she did a whole episode on Jessica's book
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about like her whole like the whole drama and like thing I've
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heard. I have and I was like she said
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in passing that Crystal was her sister in the episode and I like
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had to reach out to her and I was like you blew my mind
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because I had no idea and I didn't like in and out of Kpop
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for like years, right? I had no idea the crystalline
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desk or sisters anyway so that's a little bit about me.
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I live under a rock currently this we have a nice years apart
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so that they are, you know, kind of different true and they look
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kind of different. Like I don't think they look
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little bit the same anyway. This has a giant ensemble cast
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and I'll just say the names of these people and who they play?
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I don't know if you want to say anything else about them
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necessarily because there's so many.
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But here we go. It's ich young plays.
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You Han Yang Han young, loony? AKA loony?
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He's been in a bunch of stuff like what on happiness?
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Hi, bye. Mama, all of us are dead.
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I think all of us are dead. Is kind of like, you can
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probably pick him out from there.
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Also started Jeonghan AKA Captain Yoo and T's Paddock
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really great few years here because he started Snowdrop,
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which we covered earlier in season 3.
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He starred in DP, one spring night, something in the rain,
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which again, we covered last season.
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I did not realize that he was in this drama when I picked this
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drama for season 3. So apparently, we're like a
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jung-han, like kdrama podcast. Are you doing a bunch of other
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stuff? Well, so we're also doing a
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While. You Were Sleeping.
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Yeah, and he's second weed in that, so I was like, oh crap.
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Like I had no idea that he was in prison Playbook until it was
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too late, but that's okay. He wasn't like the headliner,
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but he becomes one of the main green.
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Yeah. He becomes part of the ensemble
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cast like, you know, regular okay.
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We also have to remove song as mincheol he is prolific.
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I mean, most of these actors are prolific.
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They've been in so many. Many things mu song has been in
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heartless City with Jung kyung. Ho yeah, he's been an Empress Ki
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reply 1988. Of course he's worked with the
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director before uncontrollably. Fine weightlifting fairy mr.
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Sunshine Insider so many things. Inside our I think he's also an
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inmate like a prisoner, it sounds so he's just he's been
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around Paco, son plays. I don't know how to say the qais
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Al. I think it's Heist yet.
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Okay? Straight have a nice day, my
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oats that's how they spell it. That's how they spell it will
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say it. How they spell it iced.
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The white hair dude right here. Dude I remember him most from my
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mr. Right.
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He was one of the brothers in my mr.
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And then we'll say Jung Min sung as dr.
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Go dr. Koh, you want, you want to guess
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how old park cosine is that? Oh Lord 15:57.
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Who's younger than me? He's 49.
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Shut up, shut up. Waiting on.
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He gets the roles because of the white hair.
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He play. He can play like up to 60.
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Yeah, he's easily. It's not fair.
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Okay, so he's has an ambiguous age and can play whatever,
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whatever character feels like that's great.
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Okay, so that's our giant ensemble cast.
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So after all this Curtis, what did you think of prison play?
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Look In a nutshell, I liked it didn't love it.
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You know it's one of those I downloaded like six episodes for
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the flight over to Orlando, you know, it was fine.
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It's a good download for the flight, kind of drama, you know,
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moves along. It doesn't, wow.
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You you know, there's not huge plot twists.
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There's no huge romance that well, we'll get into that.
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But yeah, I give it 3, ish, threesome.
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Nothing. Okay, seriously and a half. 33
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half, Yes, somewhere around there.
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Yeah. Okay.
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So my thoughts are similar to yours.
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Probably, I'm a little more positive about the drama than
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you are, but I feel like the first episode was really, really
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strong a damn near perfect first episode.
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And I think I said this on the, on the, on the socials travels,
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like did I just watched a perfect first episode because it
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really thrilled me and it kept me on my toes and I was like, I
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feel the impending doom. This character like very heavily
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and it just ends on a massive Cliffhanger as well.
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So it was just really well written and then as it went on,
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I was like, oh my God, these episodes are so long.
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Yeah, the episode length was a killer for me and there was also
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a killer, for the reply series, especially for me watching
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reply, 1988 was I, it took me months, I want to say like, Six
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months to finish reply 1988, because it was so long each
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episode was like just shy of like an hour and a half and not
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that much happens and it's not exactly.
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It is it Slice of Life, right? Yeah.
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So, it's your in their daily lives little things happening
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here and there not a clear through line or goal for the
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entire season or for the character.
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He's just like trying to get through each day.
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And I was very bothered by the episode length to be quite
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honest which I was like oh my God I forgot how much I hate
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these this length of episode I was really like upset because
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like clockwork I would stop the episode Posite around an hour
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and I'd be like there's one wish it was over much left.
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Oh my God, it was so, I was struggling.
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I was on The Struggle Bus with this one, but that being said, I
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think some episodes played better than others for sure.
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Maybe towards the end of the show.
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I was like, this is actually feeling better like to watch
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this and sit here for an hour and a half.
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But ultimately, I think I really appreciated the drama.
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And I loved the characters of the drama.
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What I watch this again, probably not.
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Yeah, I think I generally would recommend this if you love slice
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of drugs, slice-of-life dramas because usually I feel like
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people who loves to Slice of Life drawing.
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Mama's can get through this kind of like, Flatline in plot.
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Yeah, for sure. If you, if you like reply or
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Hospital playlist. Mmm, you like it.
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Yeah. So, that is my general thoughts
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on it. I thought that the Kissel, what
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were the worst parts of a show for you in a general sense?
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Yeah, probably the the pot, the pacing of it, I guess.
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Yeah. Just sit.
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Just not enough plot. Not for me, you know, the whole
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like I get if the baseball plot is kind of the main plot.
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There's not really a whole lot going on there.
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So it's just relationships, which is, which is fine but that
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just didn't always move along. Yeah, I thought that some
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characters were really endearing and some storylines were really
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strong but then other ones were just like, okay.
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This is really like, I'm waiting for something to happen that was
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the general feeling for A lot of the show I do feel like they
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nailed character development in a weird scent.
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Like obviously it takes so long for the trauma to finish that of
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course, these characters end up in a totally different spot and
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a few of the characters really do have a giant Ark and they do
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a complete 180 on them. Do I feel like they did that for
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the main character? I don't know if they did that
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for jelq which I feel like they probably should have because it
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sees the main character but Well, that was the one thing is
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that, you know, they started out and a vamp is one line where
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they're like, is this guy really dumb, or is he really smart,
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right? And I don't know if they totally
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figured it out, you know, or the, the way he played it
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because there are times when yeah, he's supposed to be dumb
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as dirt, right? It's okay.
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Really just dumb a simple guy. But then there's other times
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when he's, you know, plotting and really clever and really
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scheming in a good way. But yes, I don't know, I didn't
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totally by the fact that like, you know, something like Forrest
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Gump. You know, he plays like the
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really dull guy but he's just lucky things happen to him.
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This guy made stuff happened, you know, he didn't just luck
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into everything, so that was kind of.
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Yeah, I mean, I didn't totally sense that he was really dumb,
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but yes, I just thought he was like, lazy.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like lazy in the sense that I
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don't feel like listening to you, like everything that you
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say, because otherwise, if I'm intently listening to you and
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filing away, everything you that you say for later that would
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require too much work, like, he's like, lazy in that sense,
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like, in relationships and in putting forth effort.
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Yeah. So, a lot of the time when
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people are talking to him or, you know, he's not quite like
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responding in the correct way. He's just like, oh yeah, like
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really absent-minded the whole time.
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Yeah. Really self-absorbed.
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And I think they, they kind of managed to sell the
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self-absorbed athlete pro athlete side of him better than
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he's just dumb because he didn't like you said he like didn't
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look into everything in the show, he was an active schemer.
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I don't know what's the right word, but he was, you know,
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serving it back. A lot of the time and was very
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Smart about his decisions and who to involve and who not to
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involve and how to resolve situations.
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Yeah. So I yeah.
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What if we get say this for the spoiler section?
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But the relationship would you think?
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Oh my gosh. So you're so the relationship
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between him and crystals character Geo, I am on the fence
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about it. I had someone on Tick Tock, so I
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made a funny video of the me watching the show, during a
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funny part of the show, funny scene and someone commented and
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was like, oh, I am so on the fence about the relationship
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between You know, him injeel because there's a message,
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massive, age, Gap there and it feels predatory.
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Yeah. Earlier if he's the commenter
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was like a feels predatory so I feels very uncomfortable and I
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totally, I just comment. It was like, oh my God will
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bring that up on the show. 100% agree with that person.
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Yeah, yeah. Really kind of worked it a
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little bit where it was like she, you know, she grew up with
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him as an older brother. Whale there.
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Okay. So what is the age Gap?
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Something like 10 to 15 years between them?
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Yeah. In real life.
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It's like 13 years. Yeah.
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I bet you that's an old face to the.
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Does he have? Yeah.
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And so they surprisingly, they had him play the 20 year, old
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self, right? They had him play 19 or 20 year
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old. They had him play it, no idea.
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He had a double it like a suburb accident.
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They did it first and then and then they brought him in, maybe
23:07
he's supposed to be A college or something like that.
23:08
So true. Yeah.
23:09
Okay. Right.
23:10
And she was still like, yeah. Hyung.
23:13
Yeah. She's supposed to be.
23:15
Yeah. So I don't know.
23:17
Yeah. I feel bad because he's like,
23:22
whipped for her. Like there is, if it's not her,
23:24
it's nobody, you know what I'm saying?
23:26
Yeah, but she, I don't, I don't condone large age gaps like
23:31
that. I just don't.
23:32
I've said this before. On the podcast that large a
23:34
chaps really irk me, especially on the think I said it all.
23:37
The goblin episode, which is another famous age Gap.
23:40
I wouldn't say this is a famous age Gap, but it Should it have
23:45
happened? Should he stuck a should have
23:47
stuck around in her life when she's like yeah he's obviously
23:51
madly in love with her and she's like in school still just
23:56
getting into college, right? You know he's he's been waiting.
24:01
You know times it feels like he's been waiting and grooming
24:03
her all this time. Yeah.
24:05
If he if he was like 60 and she's 50 like, all right, that's
24:08
fine. And she's 1931.
24:12
Yes. Yeah, he's he's in another phase
24:17
in his life. But again, he's like, very
24:19
childish and not very mature like in his mind and he's stupid
24:23
half the time. So I guess he's like, she's
24:28
smarter than him, for sure. But yeah, I don't know.
24:31
I I have not given that relationship a pass in my mind.
24:36
So that's my answer to your question regarding that
24:40
relationship. It's so some ETFs work better
24:43
than others. Just And I know, I know what did
24:46
you think of the character Looney?
24:49
Yeah, I did put that as one of the arcs that I wasn't a huge
24:54
fan. I was shocked with.
24:56
Yeah. Most talked about the spoiler
24:58
later, like, what? Actually happens with this
25:00
character. But okay, what are your?
25:03
Yeah, I mean, so is he is he acting crazy, and then or is he
25:09
bite, you know, is he multiple personality or, you know?
25:14
No I didn't totally get what they were going for with him.
25:17
You know what? Let's just jump into spoilers
25:19
now so that we can like talk to our hearts content about what
25:23
the hell is happening and we'll do that right after this.
25:34
You want to come in? Okay, we're on the other side of
25:37
spoilers, if you do not care to be spoiled about prison
25:39
Playbook, or if you've already watched it, then, let's go.
25:43
Alright, greatest, we were talking about Looney and how his
25:47
kit, like his character Arc happened and it was very sad and
25:51
disappointing to me, like, what do you feel?
25:55
Yeah, and unnecessary and I know you felt.
26:00
It was unnecessary. So, I kind of feel like they
26:03
thought the showrunner saw. Okay.
26:06
So we have happy endings for all of these people, like,
26:08
basically, every inmate that we have stayed with is having some
26:13
sort of happy ending, but as soon as loony gets discharged,
26:18
he goes right back to his old ways and immediately becomes a
26:23
druggie again and then gets arrested in a sting operation
26:28
immediate. Like not even an hour or so
26:30
after he's been Released from prison.
26:34
And it was just brutal because he's been such a source of
26:38
comedic relief throughout the show and he's this crazy
26:43
character. Like, you can't, you can't cage
26:46
him. He's talking shit all the time
26:48
and he is very touchy feely and he's actually gay and that's
26:53
like a big part of his story and kind of like showing homophobia
27:00
as well in Korea, which we can talk.
27:02
About briefly, but I feel like when they release him after he
27:05
promised his lover, like no, I'm, you know, clean, don't
27:09
worry about it. I'm going to meet you here at
27:11
the what was it? The something the restaurant
27:16
that was right across from the jail and no like he decides.
27:20
No, I'm going to go back to my old habits, I mean, they kind of
27:25
hinted at the fact that it is, you know, his mom was very
27:29
trauma inducing and that they I kind of hinted that his lover
27:34
was. Maybe not 100% committed.
27:36
Yeah, I mean they hinted at that which would have made more sense
27:40
if he had got back to his life and he realized things are just
27:44
still horrible, right? But they got like I don't even
27:48
know how this guy found him. Like the same guy who got him
27:50
hooked in the first place. Where was he?
27:53
Yeah, he's an Uber drivers. Like, you shut up in a van and
27:57
he's sitting in the back seat, like, who was driving the van?
28:01
Thank you. Yeah, it was weird and then
28:04
where the hell were they? Yeah and then it's a sting
28:09
operation. Yeah.
28:09
So it's not weird. Yeah and there's a sting
28:13
operation but they left the guy that was running the sting like
28:15
the actual drug dealer alone like yeah and I didn't even get
28:20
you know, so he he was Looney and then he would switch into
28:24
serious guy. Yeah.
28:26
But then whenever someone met him at the jail for a visitation
28:29
he went back to pretty much serious guy.
28:32
He was flip-flopping a lot between being loony.
28:36
I'm being like normal or whatever.
28:39
And I think, the way that I perceive the character was for
28:44
the most part I was like, oh, he's like crazy like
28:47
through-and-through, he's crazy. Like that's his personality or
28:49
whatever. And when he's on drugs, he's
28:51
very calm and serious and normal.
28:55
Hmm, which I feel like a similar character that so that would be
28:59
mr. Gu from my liberation.
29:02
Because when he's on alcohol he's very calm and gentle and
29:06
like chill and when he's off he's like very not aggressive
29:13
and like it's not like a 180 but you get my drift.
29:18
Yeah, I think the conversation that he has with junk hands
29:21
character later down the line because he's very touchy feely
29:25
with all of the inmates, like all the time.
29:28
Like he's constantly touching somebody and junk hand.
29:32
That character Captain. You does not stand for it and
29:35
finally they're alone together and he's like, I see what you're
29:37
doing. And he basically confronts
29:40
Looney and he's like, I don't believe for a second that you're
29:44
that you're like like this, you're putting on an act for
29:47
everybody. But I know I see through you and
29:50
I was like, oh damn, like I think he's right.
29:52
Like I think he's just been acting for like a year straight.
29:58
Just acting crazy acting a fool. Yeah.
30:02
Which which I could get behind that, but it's just was
30:05
inconsistent and is more confusing than Interesting.
30:09
You know, I feel that it was the character when he was crazy,
30:13
loony reminded me of Stuart from MADtv.
30:16
Do you remember that sketch from MADtv know back in the day?
30:21
You don't. Oh my God.
30:23
So it's basically I forget the freaking actor's name but he's
30:27
like six foot something giant. Right and he plays a a child's
30:33
name Stewart. You know does this not ringing a
30:36
bell? No way from from Saturday life
30:39
or know from MADtv, you know before it died.
30:42
Yeah. No it wasn't a huge MADtv.
30:44
Oh my God. So that was like my era when I
30:47
was like growing up. Was I never watched SNL but I
30:51
watched bad TV and this character was the same as loony
30:55
because he had this like, high-pitched was and just play
31:00
like crazy the whole time at the giant child and I loved every
31:04
second of it. B.
31:05
So loony reminded me of Stewart from Mad TV and maybe I'll like
31:09
throw in like a YouTube video of like one of the old MADtv
31:12
sketches in the show notes for you guys.
31:15
So you see what I'm talking about.
31:18
Speaking of Comedy, I think the bird whistling was killing me
31:23
like by a couple of times I was like, okay, this is actually
31:27
really funny placement for the bird whistle.
31:29
Yeah. It was like that's the same as
31:33
like the goat or sheep noise. In the apply Siri.
31:36
Yeah, I don't know if I like like it necessarily.
31:42
It's almost like, you know, or too dumb to understand that this
31:44
is humor, right, right. We're right.
31:46
Like, I don't know. It's the same as a fake audience
31:50
laughter in a sitcom or something like, yeah.
31:54
I guess there was a punch line here, and I missed it.
31:56
No, I get it very well. The Time to Say Goodbye song by
32:00
Sarah Brightman. Yeah, I've locked up music.
32:07
I could not get over. The that was his walk up song,
32:10
right? I could not get over it.
32:12
So what would be your walk-up song?
32:16
If You're an athlete and like it they call you never.
32:18
It's time. Yeah.
32:21
Especially if you're a closer baseball, do you want to, you
32:24
know, get the adrenaline going, right?
32:27
Um, I don't know. I like cake.
32:29
You know. Cake is 0.
32:32
I don't think I do. Yeah.
32:33
Another they're fun. They're from the 90s.
32:36
I think. But okay it gets your adrenaline
32:38
gets good, driving music, you know something like that.
32:41
But yeah, not Sarah Brightman. I do not Sarah Brightman.
32:43
Time to Say Goodbye. I'm not gonna choose Pavarotti.
32:46
Yeah. So I this is a funny story,
32:50
quick story. So many years ago Miguel who's
32:54
been on the show a few times and Rico, of course, is my usual
32:57
co-host. We went out like late to have
32:59
coffee in this like huben Restaurant.
33:02
I drive and we were sitting at the bar having coffee and we
33:06
asked each other the square, like, what would be your walk-up
33:08
song If you were in baseball and like, you're up to bat?
33:12
And we were like, going back and like, me and Rico like trying to
33:15
like muscle through it. Like, oh yeah.
33:16
Like I would do this. Oh no.
33:17
But I like the song Better whatever and Miguel just takes a
33:21
sip of his coffee and goes mine would be Duel of the Fates from
33:26
John Williams. Did you know from the prequel
33:29
Star Wars series and we were both like, oh shit.
33:32
That's perfect. He had that ready to go?
33:35
Yes, yeah. That in the chamber, bro.
33:38
So I have never forgotten it and I want to steal it for this
33:43
instance because I can totally see a closer coming up.
33:48
You want to get the crowd pumped or you just have this orchestral
33:51
like that, that it can Duel of the Fates of coral.
33:56
It'd just be a larger-than-life song, right?
33:58
Okay, okay yeah God, that tickled me.
34:02
Endlessly. When the time to take a pause
34:05
and then it was the ringtone on the photo God.
34:09
No he'll do. All right well we talked to a
34:13
lot of negatives. It was your favorite part of the
34:15
show. Oh my God.
34:16
So I had so many funny moments that I loved actually.
34:20
First of all Jean Valjean was one of the inmates and then he
34:23
got a discharge. I spent the majority of a show,
34:28
not real. It not that the majority of the
34:30
show but I think it took two or three episodes Episodes before I
34:32
realized that they nicknamed him Jean Valjean because he was in
34:36
jail for stealing bread bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:42
Like a whole truckload of bread. Yeah, the up the ante, right?
34:46
Because he was in prison for stealing a giant truck bread,
34:51
which is, of course of like the value of that is a felony, but I
34:56
found it. So moving when he was out on the
34:58
constructions job and he actually does steal the wallet
35:01
for Of those construction workers and even though he does
35:05
this even though he's two weeks away from parole and the Odyssey
35:09
who's like with him so kind to him and gives him the benefit of
35:12
the doubt and he ends up throwing away the wallet and I
35:16
was like, oh my God, they just took his story straight from
35:19
leam is because it's like Jean Valjean turning over a new Leaf.
35:24
When the good priest gives him the silver that he stole seems
35:27
like the same kind of motion, the same kind of feeling behind
35:31
it. So I like the Jean, Valjean some
35:34
clever. Yeah, there's some clever
35:35
writing. Yes, clever clever.
35:38
They asked j-hook, what's the capital of the u.s.?
35:43
And he goes, New York Yankees. You know, I actually I bet if
35:49
you asked a lot of Koreans. Right.
35:52
Right. Yeah.
35:53
Maybe like New York, they may say that.
35:56
Yeah. Like why is it Washington d.c.
35:58
All right. You know what scene I really
36:01
liked was So Joon ho his best friend.
36:05
Yeah. Is given some errands to run for
36:08
him. Hmm.
36:09
And one of the errands was to go Comfort his sister because his
36:12
sister feels really guilty. Yeah.
36:14
Because, you know, he was protecting her.
36:16
So joon-ho goes over there and she's still crying.
36:19
It's been it's been a month, right?
36:20
And she's still crying. Yeah.
36:23
And so he goes over there and he does his long speech and he
36:27
makes it seem like he's memorized the speech, right?
36:31
That she Elk had given him and it's you know, it's a long one
36:35
like oh I would still do it. No matter what your my dear
36:37
sister, I love you bub. It goes on for a while and it
36:41
really saves her, right? But when you get back to the car
36:45
and then the list that Jayhawk had given him a just says, tell
36:49
my sister's, it's okay. So yeah.
36:53
Do you know, it taken them himself to deliver this really
36:56
touchy. Yeah, that was that was, that
36:59
was a really I loved, you know, because he's so And like he just
37:04
seems like he's above it all, and he has so much pride and
37:08
yeah, arrogance. I would say, yeah, you know, by
37:12
the end, he kind of succumbs to Lieutenant pings ideology, which
37:18
is, you know, don't like hold it all in like, if you're upset,
37:22
like, you know, call them out on their shit and there's no need
37:26
for a disrespectful. Inmate to have like a positive
37:30
reaction from you and for For you to necessarily reward them
37:33
with being nice, back to them or not serving it right back to
37:37
them. And so at the end, you know,
37:39
he's like, oh yeah, like lights out bastards or whatever you
37:42
said is like the end of the wing.
37:45
I do have a funny moment with him, there's so many but this
37:49
one really stuck out to me was when he goes over to Jack's
37:52
house again and fixes old bathroom light or whatever, and
37:57
the younger sister gets home, go straight to the bathroom and
38:00
notices that the light is Fixed and she said, and the mom shouts
38:04
out. Oh yeah.
38:04
It was Juno, he stopped by and fixed it.
38:08
And she goes. That's why he's my dream guy.
38:11
Boom, like she looks up and he's literally right at the kitchen
38:14
table like mid noodle like staring at her.
38:18
It's amazing and then he pleases and he goes like you're my dream
38:22
girl to like he certainly so good.
38:25
I love their camaraderie in the moments that they were together.
38:29
They had good lines. I thought you know because he is
38:32
Is he comes across as arrogant, but I think, you know, it's an
38:34
act right? And she knows.
38:36
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he knows it too.
38:38
And so they're they're back and forth.
38:41
I thought were really, you know, they're definitely a better.
38:43
Couple of the two couples. Yeah, you're not lying.
38:48
I have here, the mincheol wakes up and talks to Jayhawk and he
38:53
asked if like oh are we missing your girl?
38:56
Because throughout the whole show he's like pining for her.
38:58
You like misses her the whole time.
39:01
And Mitchell says, oh yeah. I, you know, had a girlfriend
39:05
wants to, and I miss her a lot to back in the day and J Hooks
39:10
really taken aback like, oh, like you had a girlfriend, like,
39:13
back in the day and he was like, yeah, I had girlfriends when I
39:16
was younger. When I was young.
39:18
I looked like, Paco, go. Yeah, I literally had to pause
39:24
because I was laughing so hard because there's an obvious
39:28
reply, 1988 reference because he played Paco.
39:31
Yes Father in reply 1988. So yeah, it's a good call back.
39:35
What a lot of these guys made cameos in hospital playlist.
39:39
Yeah, speaking of cameos from hospital playlist.
39:42
I thought that we would get a cameo from the liver surgeon
39:47
from from hospital playlist because Chi stands up going to
39:51
the hospital to get it to donate his liver to his son, right?
39:56
And I was like, oh perfect opportunity for the liver doctor
40:01
and I forget his name to come in, like, do this at have like a
40:04
cameo and no, they didn't. Well yeah, this came out first
40:09
though, so I think true. So then when he did, he wasn't
40:12
delivering success yet. No one would get it.
40:16
No, no. No.
40:17
Get it. Yeah, I know, but I wish it was
40:20
like a Pixar deal. Like it was already in the works
40:22
and they had already started. Like, like my steps ahead.
40:26
Yeah, I don't think they thought that.
40:30
Okay. So, So we're there any moments
40:32
that really surprised you or were very sad for you.
40:40
Okay, I'll start. So yeah.
40:43
In episode 3, this is when I was like, oh shit, because I, I was
40:48
wondering when we were gonna get a negative side to prison,
40:52
right, right. Because first of all, I don't
40:56
know if you've ever like visited a jail or prison or something.
40:59
It's like, and that's a great fucking sucks.
41:01
It's terrible. I'm scared.
41:02
It's actually very scary. Yeah.
41:04
And so I was like, oh shit. Like when is this going to get
41:07
real? You know what I'm saying?
41:08
Episode 3 gets real because what the chief of the workshop.
41:14
The wood chop. Yeah.
41:16
Like came on to J hook and was like about to rape him like he
41:19
had all his guys are like holding down.
41:21
I was like, oh my God, this turn into Shawshank so like yeah,
41:26
suddenly because that's seen escalated so fast and all of a
41:30
sudden like he comes closer and then he like sniffs his neck, I
41:34
like lost my shit. Yeah, I absolutely love my job.
41:38
And then, of course, That's the moment, at the end of the, the
41:40
end of the episode, of course, and Juno shows up to save him
41:45
and then she realized yeah. Oh, shit, he transferred to the
41:48
penitentiary. Yeah, keep an eye on him.
41:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That lately.
41:53
Wrecked me correct me? Yeah, no, yeah, for sure.
41:56
Like, if you, if you watch this show, you start to think, you
41:59
know, prison seems pretty nice. They have their own little
42:02
Cubbies it out because they have six guys in a room.
42:06
Which first of all, that's unbelievable to me.
42:08
Me to begin with the person that I visited.
42:12
It was I think 2 or 2 to 4 guys in a room.
42:16
It was like very small. I think the the bunks like came
42:21
out from the wall like as if you were in a boat like a cruise
42:24
ship and you have nowhere to hide.
42:26
So there's nowhere to hide stuff.
42:27
There's no storage whatsoever. Is it all stays fairly any
42:31
personal effects? They had like an entire
42:33
cubbyhole wall. Yeah, I've stopped like snacks
42:37
snacks, books. Like all kinds of stuff T they
42:41
had, you know, they had regular toothbrushes.
42:44
I was so confused with toothbrushes.
42:46
I was like how can they allow toothbrushes.
42:48
They can easily make that into a shank.
42:50
Yeah. Like I was like, dude, literally
42:52
handing them to like weapons. Yeah, the Chopsticks.
42:55
I was like, OK. I get their plastic but still
42:57
like, that's yeah, a weapon. And they had like chores to do
43:02
chores to do. Like the, I was so confused
43:06
about the life that they LED here in the Isn't is it seemed
43:09
so cushy? Hmm.
43:12
So chi chi? Yeah, and like, the Erin guy
43:16
seemed to have the full run of the place.
43:18
The Aaron guys who got like actual little card that let them
43:23
into the room and stuff. Like what?
43:25
Yeah, that's another inmate, why does it get free reign of the
43:29
place? Like, yeah, towards the end,
43:31
they were just like walking around.
43:32
Just gonna walk around at will no pretense.
43:36
You're just walking by the incinerator.
43:38
Do you mean meet you by the incinerator of the night?
43:43
I'm an inmate in a Penitentiary was clearly you can though I do.
43:47
Yeah. Clearly there's something,
43:49
they're not telling us here because I'm like, that was, oh
43:53
my God, that bothered me so much when the chief so they return
43:56
that character, right? He comes back to wreak more
43:59
havoc and he's meet me. I beg your pardon step into my
44:08
office. You think I am all the time.
44:10
You got an office. Wait, what's going on here?
44:12
Yeah. Yeah, they and literally at the
44:16
end they're just hanging out in the greenhouse you know,
44:17
practicing ball there. Yeah.
44:19
Any time they wanted midnight noon, they're just whatever they
44:23
wanted. Oh my God.
44:24
Yeah so in episode 5 we get a bunch of stuff happening but I
44:28
think the most important thing was they revealed that j-hook
44:32
had stomach cancer when he was younger.
44:37
Yeah, I don't think they should have written in a kit like
44:41
cancer into the story. I just don't think it was
44:44
necessary as an excuse for why he can't get sold shoulder
44:47
surgery. Was that it was that the excuse
44:51
to say he they were saying like yeah well it's not just the
44:54
shoulder the reason we can't operate it's because he's had
44:57
cancer before. Oh I really like that.
44:59
It's something like that but it didn't make sense.
45:01
It didn't make sense. Yeah it just did it I just
45:04
didn't think it was necessary at all to have.
45:07
So he has like this pity party in jail, the warden like reveals
45:12
this training greenhouse and is like oh look I made this for you
45:18
and All these inmates are there. Trying to celebrate his birthday
45:21
in jail? And he's like, I don't want to
45:23
do baseball anymore, he has like a whole pity party and says, I
45:26
used to have cancer. Like, I'm the unluckiest guy in
45:28
the whole world and scoffs that his nickname, which is Phoenix
45:32
was right and that he's wanted to quit so many times and little
45:38
and he's just like, has an entire pity party and I thought
45:44
there's just no need for a cancer cancer diagnosis that had
45:48
no Bearing whatsoever on the rest of the show?
45:50
Yeah, it was like shoulder cancer, right, right, right.
45:57
Yeah, yeah. I don't know about that one
46:00
either. That was I was pretty surprised
46:03
with jeonghan storyline because I wanted him to be the bad guy
46:09
in the story. That would have been cool.
46:12
I wanted him so bad to be the actual murder.
46:14
I wanted him to have actually done what they accused him of
46:18
and like sent him to jail for, but that wasn't the case they
46:22
backed up on that. And the real murderer was a
46:26
songy that actor who played the second male lead in Hometown
46:31
Cha-cha-cha. Oh that was him.
46:33
Yes that was it I didn't recognize him.
46:36
Okay I was like what This is a this was weird.
46:42
Obviously he did. Okay as a Devil, I would say,
46:47
but I was very surprised. And then I was also surprised
46:51
that jeonghan all went on to star in DP.
46:55
Yeah, it also has which has to do heavily with bullying in the
47:00
military. Yeah, yeah.
47:01
Yeah. You know which is all about the
47:04
same thing as this character is going through, right?
47:08
So I thought that was really ironic.
47:09
I don't know if it was ironic or necessarily that he was probably
47:13
really affected by the story because I don't think you
47:15
necessarily sign up for a heavy show, like DP.
47:19
If you're not like fully committed to what it's telling,
47:22
you know what I'm saying? What I had to look it up, I had
47:24
to look up. You know, who the producers were
47:26
in their eyes? I thought there would be a
47:27
connection mmm because I was like, this is too similar to not
47:31
be related, but I guess it, I guess it wasn't totally related
47:36
but yeah, but something. Oh, go ahead.
47:40
I was gonna say, for sure, for sure, that the writers of DP
47:43
probably watched this, you You know, I probably have solutely.
47:46
I don't think there's a person that worked on DP in the show
47:49
Runners. Are there probably they, they
47:52
definitely watch it. There's no way that they didn't
47:54
watch prison Playbook. And were like, oh, like we're
47:57
good. We're writing this story.
47:59
That's basically the same thing. However they were, they said
48:02
this could be a show and made it a whole show.
48:06
Yeah, they did. They made it a whole show.
48:07
It was really moving. Yep.
48:08
Know he's innocent doing half the guys in the cellar and is
48:12
that is the thing too. Is that?
48:14
Like not only is this This prison like a Utopia, but all
48:17
the guys in j-hooks fell are like model citizens, like Not
48:22
Innocent of what they're accused of, huh?
48:26
No, cuz Caius actually did what he was in.
48:28
Yeah, but it was like, but again yeah, you're not not a murderer,
48:34
not a rapist, not a, you know, gangster or anything.
48:37
He's just like a regular dude who's like obsessed with himself
48:40
and obsessed with money. Episode 10 dr.
48:44
Koh got transferred. And I was like, oh no, this is
48:48
like going like Game of Thrones kind of or it's just like bone,
48:51
they hit you with it. There was no warning or
48:53
anything. And that shocked me.
48:56
So I was then after that, I was like, I'm prepared I'm ready for
49:00
the next one because they're gonna, they're gonna keep
49:02
breaking up the band because every time you think in your
49:04
head, oh man, this is like a really good group of guys who
49:06
got here. I love her camaraderie, but
49:08
we'll look, someone gets transferred.
49:10
Yeah, well, I mean, that is kind of a clever way of bringing in
49:13
new characters. Hmm.
49:14
But yeah, they're rolling them in and out like he was another
49:18
innocent guy, right? Another completely innocent
49:21
dude, Fall Guy for his company or whatever.
49:24
Oh man, that was lame. I thought that was lame to.
49:28
It was very emotional in the moment.
49:29
The like for what? Like he could have just said, no
49:33
and then gotten fired and they just moved him to another gum.
49:37
Like there was like why the hell would you say yes to doing that
49:41
to taking the ball? Yeah, yeah, there's no reason.
49:44
Yeah, it was Dom so I haven't hear my notes, the subjugation
49:48
of crony Because this one character had a complete
49:54
character Arc. I was shocked that they gave it
49:57
to this character. Yeah, but the same guy that
50:00
stabbed J hook in the first episode.
50:04
Yeah. And was super antagonistic to
50:06
him. Once he returned into the the
50:09
show. He's got a full character Arc.
50:14
Yeah realizes that he wasn't being treated like a human while
50:18
he was in prison and is Very thankful and regretful for what
50:22
he did to Jo can like, becomes his like training partner and
50:27
he's like, he's like the catcher and everything.
50:30
What? Yeah.
50:32
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
50:33
He's the one who had the most complete Ark.
50:35
Yeah. He has a most complete, but
50:39
yeah, it's kind of like yeah, he's got this Heart of Gold but
50:41
he just kills people and stuff because he's told to do it by
50:43
bad people, or something like that.
50:45
I don't know what his deal was, but he needed a leader.
50:50
Like, he was not, he was only a follower that was there saying.
50:53
Yeah, he needs someone to follow.
50:56
Hmm, yeah, but it's funny when crony and I start dating the
51:00
same girl from another person. Oh my God, that was hysterical
51:06
and they Pelicans are prepping for her visit and they're like,
51:09
oh yeah, she's gonna visit me. Oh no, she's gonna visit me and
51:12
they're doing different things. Oh my God, and the day comes and
51:16
kisses the one that gets a visitor, but it's his ex-wife.
51:20
Wife, the wonderful. I Jemima Kim Sun, Yong, also
51:24
from reply, 1988 everywhere, from every show, everything
51:28
every show ever loved her. And she puts on a tremendous
51:32
performance. As she says that their son is
51:35
dying of liver failure. I was like, that is the most
51:39
craziest bait-and-switch that they have done in the show thus
51:42
far because you think he's gonna go see this other prisoner who
51:46
got out. And no, it's not his pen pal,
51:50
it's his ex-wife and like, it's the circumstances are dire.
51:54
Yeah. And of course, this son hates
51:56
him because he was never there. I thought this was, I believe I,
52:02
you know, I bought into this, when it was pretty brutal, this
52:06
was the precursor to hospital playlist.
52:08
You know, the liver treat me like how many, how many livers
52:11
need need transplanting a year, man.
52:13
It's like so yeah, transplant, the sun doesn't want to see him.
52:17
Even after I gave him part of his liver and actually in
52:21
hospital playlet they had a state had a storyline like that.
52:23
Didn't they have style? I don't doubt, I wouldn't doubt
52:26
that there was a storyline where I don't want my dad's liver.
52:29
Yeah. Yeah, probably.
52:31
I mean, I'm not going to re-watch hospital playlist to
52:34
confirm but yes, probably like that.
52:37
Yeah. And then we never met the pen
52:38
pal. Yeah, we never, no, no.
52:40
We never met the pen, pal. Are, you know what I thought was
52:45
bullshit was Steve Steve? Last syndrome that they gave to
52:49
hook an episode 14. I was like, okay, so he's got
52:52
like a psychological block and I was like, okay, I wonder if
52:55
he'll even get over this LOL. He gets over it with like,
53:00
within like 20 minutes because Geo tells them to put a white
53:04
draw in white X in the. Yeah, and tell him to throw it
53:08
at the white eggs, throw the ball at.
53:09
They could have come up with something better than that.
53:11
She was because Juno was like, trying to get all crazy with it.
53:16
Get get Answer with it. The hypnosis thing was again,
53:21
another great moment, really funny?
53:23
You think he's under hypnosis from the doctor, gives him a
53:26
bottle of soy sauce and tells them.
53:28
Oh, you're gonna have the most wonderful soda you've ever had
53:31
and the straw, he drinks it. And like, of course, the spit
53:36
take that happens because he's obviously not under hypnosis, it
53:40
was so great. Yeah, the whole storyline, those
53:45
kind of those dumb. He'll pitch again.
53:48
It's like okay. Now you do it, ya like it took 2
53:50
seconds. Gio was like he's dumb, you got
53:52
a dumb it down for him, but a white X in the glove and call it
53:55
a day then what that was dumb. Okay.
54:00
So the best storyline I think and my favorite prisoner is
54:03
definitely mincheol. Hmm.
54:05
Oh gee because he finally does get his parole approved in
54:08
episode 15. After them hamstringing him
54:11
through the whole parole process and they're like oh no he's
54:14
going to get the Christmas party and I cried.
54:17
Whoo. Got the Christmas part in.
54:18
Okay, and he says things, like all I have left are things to be
54:23
thankful for because he's like devoutly, Christian and like
54:26
very religious, but since he's been in prison and he's just
54:28
like, yeah. So moving, whenever he talks to
54:31
the other inmates and then when he says goodbye, love it baby.
54:35
That like that whole thing was just so beautiful and I bought
54:39
in, I bought in totally to mincheol and with the girl water
54:43
the girl interviewing him his daughter.
54:45
Those Telegraph like no one was surprised.
54:47
Is that the interview her was his daughter and I just thought
54:52
it was good. I liked it.
54:54
It was touching. One thing I didn't like though
54:56
is like if his like his his partner that he had the child
55:00
with. Yeah.
55:02
Liked him a lot. Yeah.
55:04
And she never visited in prison. Never never told him 26 years or
55:07
whatever. That's not cool.
55:10
It was so cool. So that's the thing too.
55:13
Is that you have this really moving flashback of her, Him,
55:17
the day that he has like the the bar brawl or whatever and go set
55:22
to prison that very day. And she's like, oh I have
55:24
something to tell you and I love you and all the sudden.
55:27
She's very like devoted to him. You can see that she's devoted
55:30
to him and rescue each other. You're into each other.
55:33
She had the tiny baby. Adidas shoes had hidden away
55:37
like she was ready to tell him and you're telling me she never
55:40
goes to prison to visit him. Yeah, never tell.
55:44
Shouldn't it to ya. Never imagined to her daughter.
55:46
Yeah. I mean, I get that there's a
55:49
little bit of Shame and but she never remarried, you know.
55:53
It's like yeah, she never remarried either.
55:55
I don't know Daddy. She's a single mom and it for 22
55:58
years. Yeah I don't like it.
56:02
I don't like it one bit but yeah.
56:04
I know he's a great actor though.
56:05
Great great. Yeah oh God okay anymore deep
56:11
moments are funny moments so Here's one thing that I have in
56:19
my notes is in episode 12. I was the fire in the prison and
56:23
Lieutenant Peng, like goes nuts and has a trauma response
56:26
because of like, what had happened earlier, he had saved
56:30
all the admits and all the inmates in his wing earlier.
56:33
When another fire like ravaged, another Penitentiary.
56:36
And so he's like opens all of the yeah, all of the cells.
56:41
Yeah. I was thinking cages.
56:43
Yes. So and like, they're not gauges
56:46
anyway. He open all the cell doors and
56:49
they're like reprimanding him. Whatever we figure we finally
56:52
hear his backstory and why he wears long sleeves in the summer
56:56
and all that stuff and I love it when they're talking to the
57:00
warden and chief not I think is his name the asshole Chief.
57:06
Yeah yo that was the brother from Chloe.
57:11
Oh yeah, bro. I was like, man.
57:13
He can only play an asshole from now on because he does it so
57:16
well. So that guy he's talking to the
57:18
warden and he's like, oh, we need to like dismiss him.
57:21
Like we should just fire him because he's so problematic.
57:23
And it was super, super satisfying to see like this
57:27
ditzy fame-hungry Warden actually get serious and, like,
57:31
put his foot down and he says, To wit like he was demanding a
57:36
bunch of punishments, and he goes, don't cross the line, you
57:41
know, no discussion. Lieutenant Peng is essential,
57:45
just like you are, and he has something you don't and that's
57:48
flexibility and it was just so great to see him, like, turn on
57:52
a dime and be like, no, yeah, we're not.
57:56
We're not firing him. We're not transferring him.
57:57
He's saying it's done. That was a good scene to where
58:02
he goes to his daughters, show-and-tell or whatever.
58:04
Bring your dad to work. Lieutenant Pang.
58:06
Finally, in episode 16. Going to visit his daughter's
58:10
school to what was it like a career?
58:13
Yeah, your dad, dude, but then he puts that one kid and
58:16
restrain the kids like, it hurts.
58:19
It hurts. I'll be the show's funny like
58:25
gender. Somebody's.
58:26
Yeah. Last thing I have for deep
58:32
moments is actually Juno on a date with a sister and they go
58:37
drinking. Any says that he has many
58:38
regrets that he regrets giving up, baseball, regrets quitting,
58:42
the startup company before I became successful and that he
58:46
feels really anxious antsy and cowardly for always being
58:49
dissatisfied and preparing for the next thing.
58:53
And she goes who finds joy in their job.
58:56
You should find joy in life elsewhere.
58:59
I was like preach sis. Yeah, mon yeah, they have had a
59:03
good relationship. I really like, they're really
59:05
shit. Yeah.
59:06
Yeah. There was a better relationship.
59:08
Yeah, based on better things. Secondly, the second leads.
59:13
All right, so I have mentors parting words and I think this
59:17
might be the end of my notes. He says don't let go don't let
59:20
go of hope. All right an inch l.joe forever
59:26
forever. Do you have anything?
59:29
Else you'd like to say about this in Playbook.
59:32
Oh we didn't talk about the OST, you're going to come out.
59:34
Oh hell yeah. Oh shit.
59:35
Yeah. So yeah.
59:37
Before we got on here I was like this it was T so good and you're
59:39
like I don't think there's anything memorable.
59:43
There was an OST. Well yeah.
59:45
You were like what I was like, what?
59:50
Okay. So I really love this OST
59:52
especially like it's just a lot of K, hip-hop and care and B.
59:56
You have artists like zico me no Gray.
1:00:00
Eric Nam is on the OST highs, Woogie, a bunch of people and it
1:00:06
all has the same like freaking Vibe.
1:00:07
I freaking love it and the intro song I think is okay by be Y and
1:00:13
gray, really good. That was like, okay.
1:00:17
Okay. Okay, right, you remember like
1:00:20
yeah, yeah, I know, I guess I was in it for the characters.
1:00:24
I'll bring you this, I don't know.
1:00:29
I didn't I guess, you know, because I didn't get into Kpop
1:00:32
or anything until Twilight 2019 2020.
1:00:36
Okay? So none of these songs that have
1:00:38
ever been on my playlist or radar.
1:00:40
Yeah, I would say that this is not a tremendously famous OST by
1:00:43
any stretch but I wish I got more attention because these
1:00:47
artists are really great and mostly songs that you named them
1:00:50
are good. Yeah.
1:00:51
Mostly songs are pretty good. So why do I have to go back?
1:00:55
I'll put it on. I gotta go back.
1:00:56
Yeah, be original. Soundtrack is Spotify and its
1:01:00
entirety. Sometimes you get like you type
1:01:02
in like an OST or something and you're like okay.
1:01:04
It doesn't exist on Spotify. Yeah, but yes homemade list.
1:01:08
So you get like a homemade playlist from somebody, they
1:01:11
Tilly pieced it together. Yeah.
1:01:13
But now this one does have a true OST available for you to
1:01:17
listen to all right? Well, so my take away.
1:01:21
My bottom line is if you're gonna go to jail, yeah, make
1:01:25
sure it's in South Korea. Make sure it's inside.
1:01:27
They have good food. They give you all the Sides, all
1:01:29
the bunch of clothes, they get good food, they give you some
1:01:34
Ramen at night side dishes. Yeah, great.
1:01:39
I mean really great, don't, don't go to jail in America.
1:01:44
No, don't go to jail. America is scary as shit.
1:01:47
Yeah. But if you can get a transfer to
1:01:48
a Korean jail, that's where you want to be.
1:01:50
Yeah. Because they'll get put you in
1:01:51
with a bunch of guys and they didn't even do what they were in
1:01:54
knowing very little I have a couple of unanswerable
1:02:01
questions. Okay.
1:02:02
It will ask real fast and then we'll get out of here.
1:02:04
What the hell happened to dr. Koh, what do you think happened
1:02:07
to that guy? He got transferred out.
1:02:10
Okay. Yeah, I don't know, he's making
1:02:13
Furniture. He said he said at some point.
1:02:17
Oh, I'm not even gonna need like your help.
1:02:19
Don't like, give me contact information or nothing.
1:02:21
Because when I get out of here, where immigrating out of Korea,
1:02:25
I don't want to stay in this country.
1:02:26
Yeah, so I hope his wife saved up all that money.
1:02:29
I hope that she like, didn't spend that triple paycheck.
1:02:33
He was getting every month and she didn't put it all in
1:02:35
Bitcoin. Yeah.
1:02:40
She's like oh so you got Those triple paychecks like, bad news,
1:02:44
honey. Bad news.
1:02:45
I put it in crypto. Okay, what happened to Christ?
1:02:50
He got his Liberty because I think it's never take it out and
1:02:53
then boom. They transferred him.
1:02:54
Yeah. I don't know, man.
1:02:56
He yeah. What was his original crime was
1:03:00
like, um, so you did like a gambling ring.
1:03:04
Oh, and they they busted him for that.
1:03:07
All right. So he's a professional Gambler
1:03:09
on the poker tour now. Well, he was like Fixing the
1:03:12
games, right? He had like a magnet or whatever
1:03:15
and yeah game board and cause she's like really handy.
1:03:21
Okay. Yes.
1:03:22
He was at actual crook. Yeah.
1:03:24
Yeah. Using actual Crook and you've
1:03:25
been married six or seven times? He said that's awesome.
1:03:28
I was like, oh my God he's a Casanova as well and he he
1:03:33
married the ultimate hajima. Yes.
1:03:36
The best Ashima. So Props like iced, perhaps the
1:03:39
case. I don't know.
1:03:40
Does he make up with his son? Son, son.
1:03:45
Son was nothing to do with him. Yeah, even in the elevator.
1:03:49
I know it's you. Yeah.
1:03:52
Quick question. I don't know if you are into
1:03:54
baseball at all. How often is it that a picture
1:03:56
can switch pitching? Never never right?
1:03:59
Okay, never happened in history again.
1:04:01
Like a utopian show. Yeah.
1:04:03
For the picture. Can just make it with the other
1:04:06
arm. Yeah, no, it's not.
1:04:07
Like you can just write your Nate, learn how to write your
1:04:09
name with your left hand or something.
1:04:11
No, it's He had a throw baseball's one of the hardest
1:04:13
things and then all of a sudden, well, I'm just gonna go right
1:04:16
handed. Yeah, I'll just switch arms.
1:04:20
Yeah, that was good times. Yeah, I'll just be a rocket
1:04:23
scientist tomorrow's. Well, it's the same odds I
1:04:26
think. Yeah, not gonna happen and crony
1:04:31
just catching the balls. Yeah, he had some easily.
1:04:35
Yeah, either guess he's catching like Fast balls and shit like a
1:04:40
professional face. Baseball player.
1:04:42
Yeah, totally fine. Yeah.
1:04:45
Doesn't even blink. All right.
1:04:47
It's, I think that's all I have in my notes.
1:04:49
That's all I got. I think it might be time to say
1:04:53
goodbye. Should I play the Sarah
1:04:54
Brightman? Have to play Sarah Brightman at
1:05:01
the end of this episode, right? So to all you lovers out there,
1:05:08
Okay, Curtis, thank you so much for dropping by again, I really
1:05:11
appreciate you taking the time to watch the show.
1:05:14
I know was probably a little bit underwhelming for you but it's a
1:05:17
decent. Slice-of-life show, decent
1:05:19
comedy, pretty middling for both of us.
1:05:22
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