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Dr. Doom is the Bane of the MCU · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Larger or Drunk Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel Caston, and with me is always
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  Speaker 1: is the brilliant Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Soaring Across America. So I missed last week because
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  Speaker 2: I was down over and Orlando going to the Epcot
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  Speaker 2: so so I could ride the Sore and Across I
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  Speaker 2: Love You, or Lando. My wife's favorite ride at Disney
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  Speaker 2: is Souring and they have the Soaring Across America variation
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  Speaker 2: playing for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America.
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  Speaker 2: And we've written the other two versions, Sore and Over Californi,
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  Speaker 2: which is Becca's favorite, and Soaring Around the World, which
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  Speaker 2: is her least favorite. This one is smack dab in
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  Speaker 2: the middle, but it was good. We got to write
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  Speaker 2: it twice and so we experienced it and we enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: I also brought Becca to her very first experience of
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  Speaker 2: going to see The American Adventure, which has the animatronics
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  Speaker 2: of Mark Twain and Benjamin Franklin as well as others,
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  Speaker 2: and so she sat through that, as she said, I
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  Speaker 2: would have felt great about this about five years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the Hall of President's. That's a different thing,
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  Speaker 2: but which we probably will not be going to ever again.
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  Speaker 2: But but plus, the one time Becha went to the
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  Speaker 2: Hall of President's, President Lincoln was bent at the waist
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  Speaker 2: and not like he was standing up, but bent forward
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  Speaker 2: like he was supposed to be seated. He's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be seated and then stand up. But the cast member
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  Speaker 2: didn't notice that President Lincoln was on his feet but
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  Speaker 2: bent at the waist until it was President Lincoln's turn
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  Speaker 2: to talk. Uh, he was gesturing, his hands were gesturing,
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  Speaker 2: but he was like bent forward. And my dad was
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  Speaker 2: there and he yelled out. I begged them not to
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  Speaker 2: make an animatronic John Wilkes booth. And that was pretty
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  Speaker 2: much the end of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I I maybe this is sacrilegious to Disney people,
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  Speaker 1: but I have never been a fan of like the
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  Speaker 1: Duray Across America or the not the Journey across America,
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  Speaker 1: the one you said, American Adventure, Thank you, American Adventure,
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  Speaker 1: or the Hall of President's or even the Carousel of Progress.
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  Speaker 1: So the song at the end does slap.
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  Speaker 2: There's a great, big, beautiful tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, just because that's that's never been my thing to
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  Speaker 1: watch those animatronics just talk, but I would go see
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  Speaker 1: it to watch to watch a twerking Lincoln.
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  Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, his butt was not facing toward us.
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  Speaker 2: He was because like the in the show, he supposed
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  Speaker 2: he's seated in a chair and then he stands to
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  Speaker 2: give his address, but in this case he had never
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  Speaker 2: quite sat down from the previous one, and instead he
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  Speaker 2: was just bent, like I said, like bent forward at
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  Speaker 2: the waist, like he's staring straight at the floor. It's
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  Speaker 2: like he's trying to do a touch his toes. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, the dad made the joke about John Wilik spooth,
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  Speaker 2: and I made a joke of is that my face
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  Speaker 2: on that penny? And uh, you know, the cast member
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  Speaker 2: ran down and closed the curtain and said President Lincoln
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  Speaker 2: is not feeling well right now, if you would return
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  Speaker 2: later like that kind of thing. That's the only time
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  Speaker 2: Becca has ever seen the Hall of Presidents, and so
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we're ever going to see it again.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the one like I felt sad that that
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  Speaker 2: was her first impression, but also like, well, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of funny. It's just sad that she wasn't able
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  Speaker 2: to experience the intended effect of the yea of the
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  Speaker 2: of the presentation. But in a way you're like, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I like to be fair. I also
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  Speaker 1: feel that way about Country Bear Jamboree. I do like
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  Speaker 1: the music and I like it. But the last time
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  Speaker 1: I went, which was a while ago, yeah, okay, because
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  Speaker 1: the last time I went was not the last time
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  Speaker 1: I went to Magic Kingdom, and the last time I went,
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  Speaker 1: it looked rough.
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  Speaker 2: Oh they they totally they did a whole rehab on it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's all new songs. It's all like Disney songs. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So they don't do the old like blood on the
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  Speaker 2: Saddle and all that stuff, like the old Western songs
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  Speaker 2: they do. They do Disney ones, including the try Everything
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  Speaker 2: song from Zootopia. They do a country music version of that,
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  Speaker 2: which is I mean, I actually really liked it, Like
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  Speaker 2: I can't. I went in not sure if I was
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  Speaker 2: going to enjoy the new version or not, because I
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  Speaker 2: grew up with the old country Western version of the
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  Speaker 2: country jamboree, but I actually enjoyed it. They did. I
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  Speaker 2: think they do Kiss the Girl, they do a few
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  Speaker 2: it's all Disney songs, but I thought it was I
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  Speaker 2: thought it was fine. Like I was, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: things change and the old country Western songs like hardly
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  Speaker 2: any kids are just not going to know them and
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to necessarily identify and they'll get all
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  Speaker 2: fidgety and stuff. So I totally get the the need
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  Speaker 2: to update. It's just for those of us who are aging,
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  Speaker 2: you know, losing that that nostalgic touchstone is kind of sad,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, you gotta do those things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they needed it. It needed it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did not have nearly as much a fun weekend,
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  Speaker 1: although I did get to experience, both in person and remotely,
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  Speaker 1: a very terrifying thunderstorm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard there was one really nasty one just
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  Speaker 2: as we were leaving, and I heard that there were
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  Speaker 2: really bad ones while we were gone. We've actually here
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta, we've been getting them pretty much every day,
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  Speaker 2: or at least a down boar, if not an outright thunderstorm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little bit. You guys are lucky. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of thunder in the background and definitely
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  Speaker 1: rain today. But it does mean that it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a margarita free Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we want to have to worry about
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  Speaker 2: the grounds crew running their leaf blowers at full volume
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  Speaker 2: right outside your window.
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  Speaker 1: And I live right on the Chattahoochee River, so I
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  Speaker 1: can I can stay with full confidence. We definitely need
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  Speaker 1: all of this rain. It's been extremely hot, and while
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  Speaker 1: it's been humid, it hasn't been nourishing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we have, We've had We've had drought conditions for
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  Speaker 2: quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and so the river is finally finally up
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  Speaker 1: to a decent place now.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's just as long as we don't
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  Speaker 2: go overboard with that. Of course, we're you know, now
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  Speaker 2: barreling toward hurricane season, so we'll see how that goes.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, you know, we also have a very strong
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  Speaker 2: El Nino, which typically suppresses hurricanes in the Atlantic, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll be okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would rather, I mean, I would rather
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  Speaker 1: just have thunderstorms every day than have hurricanes.
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  Speaker 2: Me too, since I'm gonna go on two cruises in September.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going on a cruise to the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of August.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see how this goes. We we live
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  Speaker 2: life on the edge. We take cruises when they're cheap,
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  Speaker 2: which is what during hurricane season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so Ellen, do your work, my friend, did.
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  Speaker 2: You ever we're stalling before we ever get to any
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  Speaker 2: of the actual show stuff. But did you ever see
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  Speaker 2: the SNL sketch with El Nino?
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  Speaker 1: It sounds familiar, but I'm not recalling it offhand.
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  Speaker 2: A few bars so it's it's Chris Farley dressed as
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  Speaker 2: a Mexican masked wrestler named El Nino. I am El
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  Speaker 2: Nino for those of you who do not ala Espanol.
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  Speaker 2: El Nino is Spanish for the Nino is very very
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  Speaker 2: and just seeing him in like a Mariachi style Mexican
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  Speaker 2: wrestling outfit is you know, it's one of those really
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous Chris Farley physical gag sketches. It's it's worth watching,
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  Speaker 2: Beca and I still quote that El Nino is Spanish
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  Speaker 2: for the Nino.
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  Speaker 1: That is pretty funny.
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  Speaker 2: It's very silk very. Something else that's not necessarily silly
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  Speaker 2: but is kind of a natural disaster is San Diego
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  Speaker 2: comic Con. I don't it's not really a natural disasters.
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  Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of people in a confined space.
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  Speaker 2: San Diego Comic Con is going on as we record this.
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  Speaker 2: It's just into its second day. It started on Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: the twenty third. We are recording on Friday, the twenty fourth.
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  Speaker 2: And that got me to thinking about a question for
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  Speaker 2: this week, which is, what was your first fan convention
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  Speaker 2: like yours for sci Fi Con that you ever attended.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is the most boring answer ever. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was dragon Con. No, I think it was
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  Speaker 1: dragon Con because prior to dragon Con, I did go
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  Speaker 1: to an sea event, but I don't think that counts.
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  Speaker 1: And I did go to to a tiny larp. It
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  Speaker 1: was a convention event. It was called something all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, I could tell you. I could tell you
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  Speaker 1: five seconds ago what it was called. But it was
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  Speaker 1: basically a bunch of different warps that were all playing
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  Speaker 1: together that you could try out and sign up four.
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  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a tiny mini convention.
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  Speaker 1: But I think dragon Con was my first fan convention. Mm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for me, because I'm in my fifties now, and
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  Speaker 2: I started going when I was eight years old because
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  Speaker 2: my dad's a science fiction author. So the first one
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking was one of the smaller cons in Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: at the time, So that would include things like Phoenix Con,
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  Speaker 2: named after because Atlanta was the Phoenix City. It rose
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  Speaker 2: from the Ashes or maybe Dixie Trek so as a
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek focus convention, although they had guests from all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of different properties. I mean, Christopher Reeve was the
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  Speaker 2: was a guest one year at Dixie Trek, although I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I went that year. I think I would
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  Speaker 2: have remembered. But the first big convention I went to
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  Speaker 2: was one called Atlanta Fantasy Fair, which was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a predecessor to dragon Con. Dragon Con drank Atlanta Fantasy
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  Speaker 2: Fair's milkshake, if you would like. Dragon Con kind of
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  Speaker 2: gobbled up all the medium, small to medium conventions for
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  Speaker 2: a while, Like there still are some smaller ones here
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta, but dragon Con really like dominated, especially after
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  Speaker 2: the first couple of years. The first couple of years
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  Speaker 2: of dragon Con, it was a smaller convention because my
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  Speaker 2: dad was the toastmaster for the very first one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they actually they actually just posted some really old videos.
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  Speaker 1: They were because they're hitting a big milestone. Think it's
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  Speaker 1: like their fiftieth anniversary this year. No, it couldn't be that,
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  Speaker 1: but anyhow, dragon Con is hitting a big anniversary this year,
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  Speaker 1: and so they've been posting, like post your old photos,
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  Speaker 1: especially before this year, which I don't have because I
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  Speaker 1: started going after that. But also like remember when it
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  Speaker 1: was a tiny cony. You didn't have to wait an
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  Speaker 1: hour to get into the vendor hall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was just like a maybe a little
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  Speaker 2: around one thousand, maybe twelve hundred people that first year.
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  Speaker 2: Like it was tiny by comparison of what you have today,
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  Speaker 2: and it's very modest, little convention, but it grew very quickly. Also,
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  Speaker 2: dragon Con coincided with Origins one year that was a
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  Speaker 2: big gaming convention, so dragon Con was the host con
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  Speaker 2: for Origins. They kind of formed Voltron together and that
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  Speaker 2: was a much bigger year for dragon Con. Like it
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  Speaker 2: had already been growing. I don't want to suggest that
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  Speaker 2: it was tiny and then just exploded. It was already growing,
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  Speaker 2: but that kind of propelled it much faster, and then
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  Speaker 2: from that point forward, dragon Con was a much larger convention.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's their fortieth anniversary this year. Got it
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  Speaker 1: so like the Atlanta Radio Theater Company, they asked them
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 2: A call of Cthulhu, good old classic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also a also a dragon con they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing a whole bunch of scripts by some total
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  Speaker 2: loser of an author who's local to Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing a whole bunch of mildly exciting tales
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  Speaker 1: of Astonishment, which is one of my favorite artsy series.
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  Speaker 1: To be completely honest, and not just to make you
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  Speaker 1: feel better, Jonathan, since.
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  Speaker 2: You wrote not just because I wrote them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very funny. It's like it's Superheroes meets the Office,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just so so good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also funny because originally it wasn't supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be a superhero series at all. It was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be like Amazing Stories, where it was going to be
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  Speaker 2: like kind of a anthology of different types of geeky stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I even wrote one that was not a superhero one.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only one. Only when I wrote that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: a superhero one, because the superhero ones were received so
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  Speaker 2: well that I was just like, well, let's just make
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  Speaker 2: it a superhero series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so they're doing that this year, which is
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  Speaker 1: really fantastic. I'm so excited to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that everybody's going to love it because the
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  Speaker 1: convention it's forty years old now, so they've got a
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  Speaker 1: whole influx of people that will be probably getting exposed
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  Speaker 1: to it. Like I know, my niece and nephews went
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  Speaker 1: for the first time last year. I have done smaller conventions,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't until after I got involved with Artsy
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  Speaker 1: through Dragon Con.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, like the two twenty one B convention, that's
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  Speaker 2: the Sherlock Holmes focused convention, that kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of Liberty Con, Chatta Khan Convention.
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  Speaker 2: Other ones that the Liberty Con and Chattacan also are
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  Speaker 2: ones that stretch way back that I was going to
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  Speaker 2: when I was a kid. So those those have stuck.
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  Speaker 1: Around, but they've remained pretty small.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they would, but I honestly, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 2: the comfortable space for those kinds of conventions because they
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  Speaker 2: are they're more fan centric in the sense of fans
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  Speaker 2: getting a chance to really gush about the stuff they love. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Dragon Con, I feel is starting to become it's not
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  Speaker 2: quite as as corporate focus is, like Comic Con is
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  Speaker 2: San Diego Comic Con specifically, where like Hollywood would treat
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  Speaker 2: that as a way of kind of building up buzz
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  Speaker 2: for their upcoming you know, films and TV series, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing. But uh, you know, Dragon Dragon Con
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  Speaker 2: definitely has a big focus on guests and some of
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  Speaker 2: the smaller cons like they have some guests, but the
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  Speaker 2: real focus is on fan fan community.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And the thing is, like, I
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  Speaker 1: love the guests. I'm always it's a weird place because
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  Speaker 1: I'm always excited for the guests that they announced, because
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  Speaker 1: I think that's really cool that those guests are part
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  Speaker 1: of this event and that people get to enjoy them.
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  Speaker 1: They just announced I don't remember her name, but she
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  Speaker 1: was the voice of Anastasia and has done a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of other stuff. But I never really go to see
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  Speaker 1: the guests. I have worked with them in the past,
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  Speaker 1: like either running tech for their panels or whatnot. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited that people get to experience that. But I
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  Speaker 1: usually go for the like the more fan stuff, right
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  Speaker 1: the workshops or the discussions about costuming or gaming or whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: They have like a crochet group now, which is fun.
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  Speaker 1: I keep trying to get my friend involved in that
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  Speaker 1: if she's listening to this episode. But I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that there are so many different conventions to experience
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  Speaker 1: different things and enjoy your excitement in different ways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I the one that I still want to go to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember the name of it off the top
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  Speaker 2: of my head, but there's like one that's a very
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  Speaker 2: Halloween focused convention where it's like horror movies and Halloween
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  Speaker 2: like like you know, spooky Halloween house kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: where you can do walk throughs of different Halloween experiences,
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  Speaker 2: like the different companies that make like the animatronics and
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  Speaker 2: the effects and stuff. They'll be there and they'll have
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  Speaker 2: set up an experience for you to walk through so
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  Speaker 2: that you can have like a haunted house experience there.
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  Speaker 2: It's always like in the summer, like it's before well
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  Speaker 2: before Halloween seasons, so that you know, these these attendees
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  Speaker 2: have the chance if they're like maybe running a haunted house,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to purchase elements to go into their haunts.
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  Speaker 2: I've always wanted to go to one of those to
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  Speaker 2: kind of experience that because that just seems cool, like
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  Speaker 2: it's a neat thing. The only other convention I've gone
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  Speaker 2: to that is not sci fi or whatever, but but
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  Speaker 2: is Tangentially related is the Southern Fried Gaming Expo, which
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  Speaker 2: is mostly about pinball and to a lesser extent, arcades
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  Speaker 2: and tabletop games. But pinball was like where it started,
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  Speaker 2: so I love going there. I didn't get to go
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years. I hope to go again, maybe
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  Speaker 2: next year. But it's a lot of fun. You get in,
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  Speaker 2: you get to play as much pinball as you like.
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  Speaker 2: You know, your entry fee to get in covers everything, right,
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  Speaker 2: so you can just but you have to wait in line,
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  Speaker 2: especially for the more popular machines, obviously, like the newest
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  Speaker 2: stuff that's being unveiled there. But that's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: I know one of our part Palooza friends who also
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  Speaker 1: listens to the show is doing some D and D
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  Speaker 1: dming there this year.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool. It's like I had a really good time
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  Speaker 2: when I went a couple of years ago. It was
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  Speaker 2: really nice. I they had me there as attending media,
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  Speaker 2: which was cool, and they even invited me back this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I wrote to him, I was like, that's really
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  Speaker 2: sweet of you, but you should know I don't really
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  Speaker 2: like I'm a producer now, I'm not on air talent anymore.
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  Speaker 2: So if I go I'll just buy a pass because
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  Speaker 2: it would be disingenuous of me to go as media
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  Speaker 2: when I can't actually report it. And they're like, are
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  Speaker 2: you sure we'll give you a pass, I'm like, you
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  Speaker 2: are too kind, but that is not I would feel
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: badly about that. You should save those passes for people
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: who are actually able to promote the conference and pinball
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: as a hobby and all that kind of stuff, like
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: that's more important to me. But that was really cool
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of them. They're super nice people there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: So for people who don't know Jonathan loves pinball.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I do. I love it. I'm not I'm nowhere near
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a level of like a tournament player or anything like that.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just an enthusiast, but yeah, I love it. If
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you're asking me what my favorite pinball machine is, it
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: probably changes day to day. But Adam's family is way
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: up there. Theater of Magic, Twilight Zone. These are all
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: games that were really popular when I was in college.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: You might guess where I spent most of my college
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: hours when I wasn't in class.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I used to love playing pinball on my Amiga two thousand,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: which doesn't count because it's a computer. Yeah, but recently.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: There's some really good simulators now that simulate actual like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: pinball tables.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that one was really good. I played
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that for hours. I would get really high scores. A
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: few years back, I took a vacation to Saint Augustine
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and they have a little pinball video game museum. They're
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: one of the ones that you pay like an entrance
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: fee and then it's just free play all day. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I just camped out at a doctor Who pinball machine
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and got pretty dang good at it, but it kept
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: getting stuck.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: That's a good machine though. It's a fun machine with
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the music and everything that I remember that one. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: there's some really good ones out there there, like I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: watch videos of them, because it's hard to find pinball
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: unless you happen to live near one of the There
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: are a few different pinball museum type places, especially on
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the North End, closer to where you are than where
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I am. Like down where I'm at, it's almost impossible.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Like you can find like a couple of tables at
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Manual's Tavern now I'm narrow casting.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Joystick might have some too, but I haven't.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure where they're well, they just closed, so.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I thought they're opening a new location in Chestin.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: They're opening a new location in East Atlanta Village, but
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: it's not open yet.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, so fair enough super narrow casting.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Like you said, Yeah, let's talk about Decab Avenue and
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the terrible intersection at Morland.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: No.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Instead, let's talk about what we watched since the last
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: time we recorded. I got a couple after we chatted
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: about it and you recommended it. I did watch all
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: of the first season of Batman Caped Crusader, and I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I think it is so good, and I think that
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: they make some really interesting character choices, and they're also
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: great at using the strong female characters that are set
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: up in the DC universe.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they even switch the gender of one of
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the famous Batman characters to female as opposed to male.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I got a little
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: like knowing that it's getting other seasons. It got me
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit on how certain villains are dispatched. It's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the same issue I have with like a lot of
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the movies, where villains who have had countless stories in
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the comic books show up once and then are killed off.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I had a little bit of that in this but
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: once you shrug that off and you just think, just
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: enjoy it as a story. I really was having a
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: good time with it and I'm looking forward to season two.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: The other thing I watched was The Long Walk, the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: adaptation of the Stephen King novella, and I enjoyed it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I was also, you know, spoiler alert for anyone who
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: hasn't who has either not read the novella but they've
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: seen the movie, or they've seen they've read the novella
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: but they haven't seen the movie, skip ahead a little bit.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: The ending is different, like fundamentally different, like like who
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: survives the Long Walk is not the same in the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: two in the two versions of the story, and it
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: threw me off because I was like, as I was
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: watching it, I was thinking, Oh, this has got to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: be like some sort of hallucination or dream sequence, right like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: this is this is the main character hallucinating what is
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: happening because he's been walking for so long and we're
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: going to get a moment where we snap back into reality.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, that's what reality is. This isn't
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: a hallucination. And then I had to go back and
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: look up how the original novella ended because I was like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: did I just misremember the ending of the book, And
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: it turned out I did not misremember. It's just fundamentally different.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: That being said, I like both. I think okay, I
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: think the movie is interesting because I would argue it
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is a little more optimistic. Is such a strong word
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to use. It's not as dark and pessimistic as the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: novella is, so it's less it's less pessimistic and dark.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's still really dark and pretty pessimistic. It's just not
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: as grim as the novella is.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That's that's good because I can't do it. I'm sure
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I can't. Also watch The Long Walk. I've been avoiding it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: My husband wants to watch it. He does like the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: short story, but it is not for me. But I'm
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: glad to hear that it's good.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are the two things I watched. And then
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: this weekend I'm going to see The Hadestown pro Shot,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: which means I'm going to miss event that Ariel is
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: performing at and I feel really badly about that, don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that when I bought the tickets.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, it is it is a little it's it's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: not I wouldn't even call it like an event that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I'm performing at. It's it's an event that is having dancing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And that's the main reason I invited you, because I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: know you like to stances I do.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Uh, And then I hope I'll be able to catch
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a screening of the Odyssey, But honestly, I have not
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: booked anything yet, and those tickets sell out super fast.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I was thinking about seeing The Odyssey last
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: weekend and it didn't happen. And now I'm like, maybe
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I just do an Odyssey Spider Man Brand New Day,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: back to back double feature and just never leave the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: theater for the rest of my life.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It's like that's like a six hour time commitment.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's like Barbie Heimer, but because same actors. But
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and probably have to say length.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: You'll have to go to like movie taverns so you
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: can actually eat one you're there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see you. Guys know that I was
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: on the fence about The Odyssey, and Jonathan was a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: little bit too at first, just because of some choices
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they make in the trailers. But we all know that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: trailers don't always equate.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be clear, I want to be clear
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: about this, because it plays into one of the things
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: that's in our thirty seconds or less. The things that
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: were giving me pause were not the casting. Yeah, apart
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: from that damon being Odysseus. That seemed a little weird
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to me, but apparently he does a great job. It
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: was the very modern sounding dialogue that's what was throwing
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: me off. But the casting, which some people objected to,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I was fine with.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the casting. It was also the modern
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: language in the American accent. Like I don't know, not
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: saying to make everyody speak with a British accent would
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: be better, but there are so many British actors that
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: were made to speak with a specifically generic American accent
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: that just felt really weird to me. That's all.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, it's I mean, saying that everyone should speak
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: with an English accent is also like, and that's not
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You're not saying that, but I'm saying,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: like that would be weird too, because it is a
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Greek myth. But that's the other thing to keep in
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: mind is it's a myth. This isn't This isn't like
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: some historical drama. It's it's a telling of a myth, yes,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: something that's a made up story.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no issues with the casting at all. And
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the meme where it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: just like, if you put Matt Damon in a helmet,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to find his way home.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I have not.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Because the Martian Interstellar saving Private Ryan.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, that is good. Yeah, like, what's the common
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: thread besides Matt Damon and all of these it's the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: helmet Sunds trying to get home and can't.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So you know, type casting.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: That is very funny. I had not thank you for
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: bringing that to my attention because I did not. I mean,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you know me, I'm not on social media anymore, so
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I miss all the memes.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I wasn't sure if that made it to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: generic internet or not, but not to mine. Instead of
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: seeing the Odyssey, I guess we have two weekends to cover.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Did I talk about watching karate Kid Legends?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so not this weekend, but the last weekend I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: did watch karate Kid's Legends, I guess after we recorded
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: our last episode, which was like the new karate Kid
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: post Copra Kai. I really enjoyed it. The plot is
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit quick, and you know surface levels is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: That where where the kid is learning both kung fu
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and karate because he's Jackie Chan.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: And Daniel Ralph Machio. Yeah, yeah, and so I really
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. The only thing I had to suspend disbelief
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for was that Ralph Macchio could teach him anything that
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Jackie Chan couldn't.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it totally Yeah, that is stretching disbelief.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I I really enjoyed. Even though the story
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: was surface level and some things were rushed, I really
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: enjoyed watching it. It was so much fun. The characters
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: were so delightful. You really sympathize with them, and they
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: make you connect with the characters very quickly, even like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the tertiary characters. It's the relationships are phenomenal. The casting
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: is phenomenal. One of the kids, the lead actor from
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Karate Kid's Legend, is also in The Long Walk. And yeah,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I just I absolutely enjoyed it. So that was a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I found found out one of Shay's former classmates is
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: also in The Long Walk.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to. Just intrusive thought popped into
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: my head. And then I had to voice it. I apologize.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: That's fine. That's half of our show is intrusive thoughts
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that we go on tangents about not bad ones, but yeah,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and then other than that, let's see, in the past
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: two weeks, Game Changer had maybe it's my most favorite
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: episode of it ever, called count the Rice, which felt
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like a giant LARP module, and I loved it so
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: so much. I don't want to spoil anything, but if
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you have dropout or you're a fan of that game show,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: watch it. And then I've been playing a bunch of
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Dragon Age Inquisition. We moved the PS four upstairs. I mean,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I've gone over this when I hurt my back. So
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I finished Dredge and now I'm on Dragon Age Inquisition
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: because I could get that and Mass Effect Andromeda really
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: really cheap in a bundle with all of the DLC
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and I enjoyed Mass Effect and Drameda, but I never
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: finished it, so I figured they'd be fun to tool
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: around on for a bit. I still have to finish
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: my boulders Gate three play through, and also my clerb
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Scare play through, my second Boulder Skate three, and then
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: my third Baller Screate three play through and then my
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Clarb Scaar play through. But my husband's been deep in
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of video games himself, so I'm happy to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: try some older stuff that I know my friends have liked.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: In the meantime.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been playing Assassin's Creed Black Flag, but not
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the Recinct one, just the original Assassin's Creed Black Flag
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: because it was on Xbox Game Pass and or maybe
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it was one that I previously owned. So I just
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: got an Xbox Series X. But I haven't really been
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: playing it that much. I just I got it because
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play Grand Theft Auto when it comes out,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: so I wanted to buy it before all the prices
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: go up, which will be happening in like a week.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: So I got one so I can play GTA six
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: when it comes out, And I might actually spring for
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the Recinct one because I've seen clips from it and
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it just it looks so nice and like the upgrade
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: in graphics is really pretty clear. Plus there's some quality
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: of life things that they've done that I'm like, well,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: thank Heaven. Like I know tons of gamers hate when
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: you have it's not really a cut scene, but a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: character is talking to you while they're walking, and your
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: walk speed never matches the other characters walk speeds. You're
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: either walking too fast or you're like trailing way behind,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's just a lot of start and stop.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: They've apparently created one where you just push a button
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in your character just matches the other character's walking speed,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: so you can you can even set the controller down
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and just listen to the dialogue.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's wonderful.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you. It's a simple fix, but it's
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a huge quality of life improvement. So I'm thinking about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: possibly buying that because i haven't gotten very far in
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Black Flag. I'm also one of those maniac gamers who
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: wants to clear everything off the mini map before you
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: move the story forward even a second. And there's tons
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff in Assassin's Creed games that you have to like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: especially collecting all the stupid sea shanties.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Oh listen, I've in Dredge. I gave up on it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to catch all these fish.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I caught all the basic fish, but I didn't catch
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: any of the avants. I caught averants, but not all
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of them. And I'm like it's not enough fun to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: wait around and then find the one where it spawns
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and catch a bunch of fish and have to just
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: throw them back and like, yeah, it was fun during
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the game, but now I'm past the storyline and I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: did do all three endings.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah those endings are they pack a wallup?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Ohoh they do. I did not get spoilers and boy
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: howdie and I haven't done the DLC for it, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Dragon Age Inquisition, I've just decided that, like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the shards, like inventory management is
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not my favorite thing, and I'm also the kind of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: person who'll be like, I'm just gonna buy everything, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: so I forget to upgrade my armor and my equipment
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: unless I'm just losing a battle over and over, and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I hate doing it for the whole team. I really
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: wish the game would just have a pick the best
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: thing for my character and put it in there ability
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: because I hate inventory management, I hate crafting, I hate
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: hunting bears in the snow for pelts. I'm really there
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for the story, so there are just things I've been like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up and if I don't need
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it for the plot, it ain't happening.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, it's like the thing that
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I hated about border Lands. I mean, I get that
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: they think it's great to have a thousand different kinds
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: of guns in the game, but every time you pick
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: one up, you're like spending the next three minutes comparing
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: stats and Okay, well this one hits harder, but you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: have a much smaller clip and blah blah blah, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, for heaven's sake, just just tell me immediately,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: like should I switch to this gun and sell the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: old one? Or is this just junk? And I can
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: either leave it or I can you sell it at
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the next stopover or whatever? Because that's not fun for it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I get that it's fun for some people, and I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: guess for them, those games are heaven, but it's just
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: tedious to me.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I hate inventory management. I hate in every
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: single game. And I'm also the person who'll be like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this armor looks really cool, and nothing I've gotten that's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: better looks really cool. So I just don't care. I'm
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: gonna put the game on the easiest mode and play
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the easiest mode on the hard mode because my equipment
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't match, and that's fine.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you like, yeah, why fight aesthetic versus practicality? It
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: does get a little irritating. Well, let us move on
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: then to our thirty seconds or less because we have
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: quite a bit of a show to go through.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, we do. And the first thing is just
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that San Diego Comic Con is going on right now.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: We've already talked about that a little bit. Some of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the big things have been the new stuff for the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: new Blade Runner twenty ninety nine, which we hadn't talked
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: about on the show very much. They did release the pictures,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and I guess at Comic Con they've released a bit
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: more than that, but I hadn't seen it yet. Vampire
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: listat Lord of the Rings, Rings of the Power, Ricky Morty,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Spaceball's Pants Labyrinth is getting a twentieth and how did
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: that come out twenty years ago? Celebration stuff like that.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be a ton more, but since
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the con just started, we only have a little bit.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: So by the time you hear this, I'm sure there'll
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: be lots more news that we could have included in
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: this if we had not recorded midday Friday and.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Most most of the stuff so far is stuff we've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: already kind of talked about or touched on.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: One of which we will talk about later because.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Or something we're gonna talk about later. So I'm glossing
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: over it now on purpose.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, fair enough, all right, Well, moving on
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the Paramount Paramont. The Paramount Warner Brothers Discovery acquisition is
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: in a temporary limbo as a federal judge recently extended
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: a restraining order on the deal until August seventeenth. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: judge cited concerns about two preliminary injunction motions that were
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: made against the deal. Talks between Paramount and the various
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: concerned parties, including the WGA, are supposed to begin today,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: July twenty fourth. The dealing ain't done yet, folks.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Neither are Disney live action movies. So Coleman Domingo is
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in talks to co write the live action The Princess
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and the Frog. There's some nevos in that sentence. It
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: tripped me up a little bit. He's doing it alongside
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Tony Tony director Robert O'Hara. This is one of the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ones that, on the one hand, I'm like, I wouldn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: mind watching this having the story have a bit of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a revival, because I don't feel like it got amazing
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: reception the first time. He came out like people liked it,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't the same as like Aladdin or Lion
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: King or something like that, or Frozen or Frozen. But also,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: at the same time, there are so many talking animals
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that it's only going to be partially partially live action,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: but they're still doing it despite the fact that Milana
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: did not do well. And to be fair, I like
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of what Coleman Domingo has been doing lately,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: so I'm happy to see what he might bring to it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: He's got a great sense of humor.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've also heard that apparently it's more of a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: spinoff slash inspired by and less of a direct adaptation,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: which I think is a good idea considering how a
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: lot of the criticisms directed to the Milana film were
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that it was almost shot for shot a remake of
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the animated movie.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm if Disney were doing more like Inspired Buys,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I'd be so for the live actions.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if it were like, oh, this is tied
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: into but not a direct retelling, and that at least
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: from what I've heard that's what sounds like this project
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: is aiming at. So that's good. But the mouse House
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: is cutting the cheese. No, that doesn't get That doesn't
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: get my meaning. Across Disney is laying off hundreds of
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: folks across the company, with insiders saying that corporate is
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: hitting National, Geographic, and Pixar particularly. Hard cuts also affect
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: high profile talent at ESPN and for those counting, this
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is the third round of layoffs this year over at Disney.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: As Goofy would say, gorsh.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not happy about it. Disney adjacent Ryan Reynolds apparently
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: can't quit Deadpool, not because they're not letting him, but
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to. It's so much fun. Even
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: though he said there's not really going to be a
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: fourth Deadpool movie because how many times can you put
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Deadpool against a wall and keep it fun? Apparently that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: not true. We're going to get another Deadpool film. We
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: just don't know whether it's going to be a stam
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: alone or if he's going to be a part of a.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Larger Oh man, I have feelings.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know what they are. I know
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we're in thirty seconds or less.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: But well just that, like, I know, he's going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: show up in the Avengers movies in some regard, and
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I guess I guess you could do. I think there
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: needs to be like maybe a farewell Deadpool movie, like
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: one where it truly kind of like gives him a
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: way of having closure, because I don't think you can
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: just keep doing the character, like I don't know how
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: the character fits in with the larger Marvel cinematic universe. Otherwise,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: unless they decide to just go really weird, which maybe
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they would like, it wouldn't be a bad thing. I
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: think the last time they went really weird was with
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the ant Man movies. It didn't really work, but it
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: would be you know they if they want to go
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: really weird, then maybe bring in Deadpool and she Hulk
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: so that you have two characters who break the fourth wall,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: because that'd be kind of interesting.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Deadpool, She Hulk, and Gambit just need to have a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Jump Street twenty one Disney Plus TV show.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be all for it, but like, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: don't know, I feel Deadpool has kind of starting to
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: run out. Maybe it's just that I'm burnt out on
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Marvel in general. That might be it, although I will
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: say the more recent Spider Man trailers have me at
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: least interested in seeing it. Yeah, I'm not excited is
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: probably the wrong word, but interested.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: It's the thing I've been most excited to see for
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, getting back to our thirty seconds or less.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Most critics have gushed over Nolan's The Odyssey, but Elon
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Musk objects to all those pesky people of color in
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the movie. Musk says he wants to make an AI
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: generated to quote unquote historically accurate adaptation of the epic poem,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: which has prompted Coleman Domingo to quip quote and by
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: his historically accurate, he means wider than Christmas at Cracker
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Barrel in the quote, Well said mister Domingo.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, I like coland Domingo, but that's he also plays.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: He also plays an amazing character in The Running Man
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and also in The Four Seasons, which is the TV
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: show I absolutely love, even though it made David Tennant
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: not be able to come to DragonCon this year. A
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: twenty four is talking with Will forte Or to join
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Skyler Gizondo, who played Jimmy Olsen in the New Superman
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: movie and was also in Righteous Gemstones, and Kenneth Brannall,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: who's been in everything, to be in a comedy horror
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: called Goblin. I honestly haven't had that much time to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: look that much more into Goblin, but based on another
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: trailer we're going to talk about in a little bit,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have put Kenneth Branna into super comedic, but
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm down for it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm down for it because I read that
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: the Goblin will be a puppet, a practical effect, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'm for that. I tried to look up
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: what the Goblin looks like and I got a couple
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: different pictures, so I'm not entirely sure they are the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: puppet already. Just apparently the writer broke the bank creating
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the puppet, and it's a vision that is getting new
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: life because it kind of didn't take off the first time.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But if it is the picture I found, it looks
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: very labyrinthy, but I don't know.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Well. Something I am not all for is Taylor Sheridan's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: work in recent years. He's really specialized in making soap
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: operas for mostly conservative dudes, but he's co writing a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: screenplay adaptation of the Call of Duty series for Paramount.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: The film will be set in the modern Warfare universe,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and his co writer will be Peter Berg, who has
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: directed films like Friday Night Lights and Battleship. I get
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the sense this will be Testosterone the movie.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't completely hate testostera in the movie.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Like I loved RoboCop and now we might be getting
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a RoboCop TV show. It looks like Amazon MGM is
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: green lighted it with Peter Aco as the showrunner. He's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: done a bunch of show running of a bunch of stuff,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of which I've liked, a lot of which
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I have liked, such as The Office and Bluemhouse Atomic Monster.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: This is after they kind of said, oh, we don't
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: want to do the Stargate one, So it really kind
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of depends, I guess, on the pilot or the proof
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of concept they make and whether they like it in
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: actuality versus concept.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Well. Zach Kreigor teased an audience at Comic Con with
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: some hints about his upcoming Weapons prequel film, which will
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: explore the origins of Gladys. If you remember Gladys, right,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: she's the unsettling antagonist. Portrayed by Amy Madigan in Weapons.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Gregor gushed about the creative ideas he and his co
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: writers have been caught and says the script is quote
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: in progress right now, end quote.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I hope he films it in Atlanta. Please that, Craiger.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: If you hear this film it in Atlanta, thank you.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's just one of the first one filmed and it
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: was such a good movie.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And Ariel wants to be in the next one.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least auditioned for it. Treasure Island, the
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: one with Hugh Jackman and Ridley Scott has found a home.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: They are moving to Sony, or they're hoping to. They're
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: in talks. But yeah, that's all I have to say
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: about that. I think we've talked vaguely about it. I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about a Ridley Scott Treasure
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Island or Hugh Jackman Treasure Island, but it's mainly because
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I love Muppets Treasure Island so much that I'm like,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: why make anything else?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I also I also love Muppet's Treasure Island.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I do think you could make a more faithful adaptation
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: of Treasure Island, but casting Hugh Jackman as the most
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: handsome you know, Long John Silver since Tim Curry uh
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: is just odd. Like. I don't think you need to
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: have a celebrity playing Long John. Honestly, I think it
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: works better if you have someone who's a character actor,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: but who knows. Maybe maybe mister Jackman will surprise me.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Jonathan wants to audition for that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I would love to play like just a
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: random I wouldn't. I can't imagine playing anyone of any
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: real importance in that. Maybe, uh, maybe I could play
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Captain Flint because he's dead.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Done yourself.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I know, I know who i'd want to play. He's
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: only got one scene, but he is my favorite character
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: in Treasure Island, Blind Pew. I would want to play
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Blind Pew. He's only in one scene and he gets
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: killed at the end of it because he's he's run
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: down by a stagecoach or a team of horses, and
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: he's a blind pirate and he's there to deliver the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: black Spot to Billy Bones. I would love to play
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that character.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I think you do great as that character.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: He's super like. You could play him super creepy and scary.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that is it for thirty seconds
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: or more.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a long one, but you know, we
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: didn't do last week and we're gonna have another. We're
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: gonna have a couple of breaks coming up real soon.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, okay, Well let's go into stuff that
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: could be a whole lineup of its own on a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: general podcast about movies and television.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote, I wrote, other movies and TV series come.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Out too, you know a lot of them apparently.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a lot in this one. So we've
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: actually got more in this section than we do in
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: our regular show notes. And some of these are you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: edge cases. But first up, we got a trailer for
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the biopic il a Rocky. It's a fictionalized telling of
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone's efforts to make the first Rocky film. What
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: did you think of this trailer?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: So I I showed it to my husband and I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: asked what he thought, because he does like the Rocky movies,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: and he also likes some of the older Stallone stuff,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: like Over the Top. For a different reason. He takes boxing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: He's not a boxer, but he does box as one
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: of the martial arts he's studied. And he was like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to talk about the guy
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: that the original Rocky movie was actually based off of,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: because apparently there was a whole thing that I never
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: knew about. But that's an aside as I gathered my thoughts.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I I think it's okay. It's it is, you know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: an interesting thank you tibblet. You think it's okay too.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: It is an interesting underdog story in similar to the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: way that the story of Rocky is the story of
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: making Rocky is a similar undersdog dog story. I can
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: make complete sentences that make sense. I swear. It's always
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: weird for me watching biopics, especially if people who are
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: still alive, because it's hard not to compare the new
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: actor to the old actor and see how they match up,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and they don't. This guy is pretty good. There are
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: moments in the trailer where I'm like, oh, yeah, he
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: looks like a young Sylvester Stallone, and there are moments
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: where I'm like he's far too pretty, And then there
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: are moments where I'm like, I got bored from the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: trailer and I looked away and I'm like, oh, he
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: sounds like Sylvester Stallone, And then there are moments where
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: he's just way too gravelly in his voice. Yeah, it
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: feels like he hit one, because it's not that Sylvester
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Stallone and Rocky don't talk that way, but they don't
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: talk that way. They do have more range in their conversation.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And then there's speech patterns and he just gets stuck
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: on this gravel for a while, and I'm like, I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: can't listen to this anymore.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of impressionists who who they'll
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: pick like one or two like vocal quirks of the
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: person that they're doing the impression of, and then they
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: just dial that up to eleven so it doesn't actually
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: sound like the person they're impersonating it, but it makes
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: you think about it because it you know, it has
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: those quirks. It's just those quirks are really front and
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: center and they take up like the entirety of the performance.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I felt the same way about this, like I was like, well,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: he's doing a really strong Sylvester Stallone impersonation, but it
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: does feel like it's it's like focused on a couple
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: of elements of his speech and that's it. So similar
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: to what you were saying, I also said, I wrote,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I got the feeling this movie might lean a little
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: too hard on ego stroking for Stallone, like it possibly
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it feels like it might be pushing that narrative of
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the underdog story even harder, Like, even if that's the
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: way it actually was, it feels fictional to me because
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: of the way it's being presented. It's maybe a little
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: too hard on the sincerity, where it's coming across as
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: maybe less than genuine to me. That's my impression, which
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: is not a Stallone impression. It comes out November sixth,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I had heard lots of stories about Stallone
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: fighting to get this movie made and not compromising, and that's,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: you know, that's the core of what this movie is about.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: So it may be that this is a largely accurate
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: telling of that story, but I don't know. It just
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: came across to me as being a little aggrandizing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some funny moments, like when the guy
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: playing Carl Weathers is like, no, I'm not a boxer.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: That was very funny. And yeah, apparently it's it's based
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: off of an actual, an actual fight that some schlub
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: had with Mhammad Ali where he just stayed standing way
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: longer than anybody had any right to and there was
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: a lawsuit because it was basically a direct copy of
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: his fight without crediting him.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Well, well, let's move on to a different sort of
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: biopic about another real life person. In this case, there's
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a kind of a comedy biopick or
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: a comedic biopic from a Canadian film company. It's called
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: The Stunt Driver and it's about a Canadian stuntman named
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Ken Carter as he tries to tackle a truly seemingly
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: impossible stunt of jumping a mile wide river, the Saint
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Laurent River. And Jay Berochell or Bearrochelle stars as Ken
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Carter and Ed Helps plays a supporting role in this.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: So what did you think of this trailer?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I felt that tone was inconsistent. There were moments that
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: it Ben Foster's also in it, who I also like
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a whole lot. I like his performances a whole lot.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him otherwise, But there were
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: moments where it felt very sincere and almost like dry biopic,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: and moments where it felt like it was trying to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: be wacky funny, and I don't think that the trailer
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: blended those moments.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, maybe it works better in the actual film.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously in a trailer that you don't have
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the length to play with in order to make those
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: transitions make more sense. I thought it was like it
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: definitely felt more like a comedy, maybe not not like
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: a super zany, wacky comedy, but definitely more comedic than serious,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: which I found a little weird because because I know
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: the story of Ken Carter, because I was a kid
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: when kN Carter passed away. Now, the story that is
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: being told takes place in the mid seventies. Ken Carter
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: passed away in the early eighties, So I'm not trying
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: to suggest that this movie is a comedy about how
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: he died.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Because it's okay. I was curious for a second.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: He did not die. I won't spoil how this stunt
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: turns out, but he did not die as a result
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: of this stunt. He did die in a stunt, it
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: just was not this one. He died early. He was
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: in his forties. So I just thought it was weird
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: because this is like a real person who actually did
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: die in the midst of a stunt, and I wonder
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: if they're going to touch on that at all, Like
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: maybe it'll be like a post film title card or something.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: But I don't know anyway, I just thought it was weird, like,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you know, seeing any kind of film that is leaning
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: into comedy where you know that the person depicted in
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: the film ultimately had a tragic end as kind of weird.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I can't even watch The Crow, and the first time
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I watched it, I didn't know what happened during.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Well the Crow is not a comedy. No, well, no,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the Crow too is a comedy, just not intentional. The
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: first Crow is not a comedy, But yeah, I go.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It just mean, like with Brendan Lee dying in the
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: middle of the production and.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Everything similar vibes for me of like knowing somebody died
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: or knowing it's about somebody who died doing something similar,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: So it always gives me a little bit of like
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: enjoyment dissonance.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this movie, though, I mean it looks like
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: it's entertaining and everything. I just wish it were about
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: somebody who had not subsequently passed away doing what is
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: essentially depicted in the film. But this comes out September
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: twenty fifth.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: The next is a trailer for You Had to Be There,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: which is still not fully but kind of Canada based.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, not very much Canada based. Yeah, it's
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: about a production of Godspell that had in its cast
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: a ton of people who would go on to become
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: like defining personalities in comedy in Canada and the United States.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's crazy to look at that cast.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a documentary about it. It looks fun.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: It makes me wish that I had been a part
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: or had been there, or had even seen this version
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of Godspell, which I hadn't.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no way you could have. You weren't born yet.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: No, but you know, maybe they recorded it.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I guess that doesn't stop some of the people who
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: are giving commentary because you know, lin Manuel Miranda was
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: not born when this production was done, and there is
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: no recording of the there's no like filmed version of this.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: So like, while it's a documentary about this production of Godspell,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: they don't have any footage they can show, so like.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Show a couple of clips though during the truer.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I think the clips are mostly things like maybe from
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: rehearsals or something, but they don't have any clips of
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the actual production. They have animation to show certain sequences
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But yeah. The cast included folks like Martin Short,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Eugene Levy, Dave Thomas, Gilda Radner, Victor Garber, Andrea Martin,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Jane Eastwood, and Paul Schaeffer was the music supervisor for
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: this thing. Like that's a crazy amount, Like these are
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: people who would go on to form Second City and
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: then subsequently SCTV Saturday Night Live stuff like that. This
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: comes out September eighteenth.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I want to watch it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: The next thing we're kind of rushing through these. The
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: next thing is for it might be one of the
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: things I am most excited for on the stuff that
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't fit category. I Also we also have a trailer
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: for the Runner. I am not as excited for this.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: It's Galgado Got stuck in the love Child of Taken
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and The Running Man.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's a London based attorney and a runner like
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: she runs to stay fit, and on one of these runs,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: she gets a call and finds out that her son
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: has been abducted and the abductor wants her to do
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: all these different tasks, which eventually reveal that she's being
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: embroiled in some sort of like crazy criminal scheme of
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: some sort. It's not entirely clear in the trailer, but
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: it does definitely have that like taken vibe to it,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: although she's mostly spent you know, running between one place
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and another in order to do these things, and less
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: time spent you know, using her particular set of skills.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: This comes out September second on Amazon Prime Video. Maybe
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it because it's on Prime Video and I've
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: got Prime I might. I might just watch it good
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: just to see if it's like a decent action film.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: But I kind of agree with you, Like, it doesn't
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: have anything that really sets it apart. It feels like
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: it's it fits that bill of something like a Taken.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't even put this with Running Man. I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Running Man looked more interesting to me.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really enjoyed Running Man. I enjoyed Taking Too.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: It's just this doesn't feel original in an interesting way
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Similarly, I feel like the next movie kind of
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: falls into that category. The Fix. It's another action film.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: This one has Liam Neeson in it and Zachary Levi's
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: in it as well, and they're playing like former CIA agents,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: and the plot mostly centers around this clandestine rescue attempt
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: in Tehran and it comes out. You know what day
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: it comes out. It's so tasteful, now, can you guess? Yeah,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: September Eleventhia, that's it.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I did see that.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you think of this trailer?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: It felt like, what's that show that has John Krasinski
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: in it?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's the Jack Ryan Show. It's the yeah one
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: based off the Tom Clancy books.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: That's what it felt like.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like that, maybe with a little Reacher
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: mixed in. Not that there were any man meat mountains
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: in this one, but you.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Don't think Liam Neeson's a man meat mountain.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: No, no, not When it takes him eighteen different film
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: cuts to scale a chain link fence. Have you ever
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: seen that sequence from It's from one of the Taken movies.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: It's one of like Taking three or something. But there's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: like a bit where his character iss is like scaling
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: a fence that's like ten feet tall or something. But
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: the camera literally cuts like a dozen times in the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: in just the sequence of him going up and over
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: the fence. And it is so like, even if you're
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: not into film and you don't normally pay attention to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: things like when a camera cuts, I think think it's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: almost impossible to watch that without going like, wow, that's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of cuts.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Fair, I'll have to look it up. I mean, I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: do like Liam Neeson that he is able to play
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: an action hero and then also play someone making fun
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of himself for being an action hero. I do you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: appreciate that?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: And it's hard to say, like the trailer gave me
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: vibes that maybe he's not a good guy in this one. Yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like he's he's a mentor who is.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the most interesting part
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: of the trailer for me. I don't think I'm gonna
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: watch this one per se.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I will either.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Then we've got a trailer for may Day.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the one you were referencing when you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: said Kenneth brannaw and comedy. This is an action comedy film, thank.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: You, because I was like, which one is this again?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But I also very specifically remembered Kenneth Brannell because I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: thought he was Zach Galafanakis at first.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: That's fair. He kind of looks like Zach Galifanakis in
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: this in this trailer. So this is starring Ryan Reynolds
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: playing an American pilot in the nineteen eighties who while
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: he's flying over Soviet Russia, his jet collides with another
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: the Soviet jet and he has to bail and so
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: that means he lands in Soviet Russia. This is a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: time during the Cold War. He encounters Kenneth Brannaw, who
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: is an ex KGB officer and apparently Kenneth Brannaw's character
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: would be interested to defect to the United States, but
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: also is just trying to make sure Ryan Reynolds is
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: kept alive these deep behind enemy lines. And there's a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: lot of comedy in it. There's a lot of action
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: as well. Like it's not it's not just a comedy.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: It is an action comedy. So what This comes to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Apple TV on September fourth, So this is not going
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: to theaters. This is going to be on Apple TV.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the trailer? Oh?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I think it looks so funny. It's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: by the same team I think that did like Deadpool,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: really some of the same creative team. I love it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I think it fits exactly in the niche of the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that I like watching Apple TV for,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: which is, well, there's a bunch of stuff I like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: on Apple TV. But this, this, this feels like one
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: of the shows on there that I would absolutely love.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It feels exciting and funny, well not well produced, it feels,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: but it also feels like the humor in it is effortless. Hmmm,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: like it does. There's a lot of shows where I'm like, oh,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: you're trying to make a joke, especially in trailers. You're
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: making a joke and trying to make me laugh, but
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: out of context it's not working.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also falling into that trope of you've got
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: two characters, one of whom is far more capable than
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: the other, right, because like Ryan Reynolds is playing a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: fighter pilot, but it turns out like that's where his
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: skill set is, is being a pilot. When he's on
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: the ground, he's not necessarily mister action hero, and and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: so he's he's leaning heavily on Kenneth Brannaw in order
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: to for all the action stuff for him to be
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: able to stay alive. And I'm like, Okay, that's kind
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: of a well worn trope. We've seen a lot like CIA,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Central Intelligence like that kind of stuff. But these two
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: look like they have pretty good chemistry, So I think
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: it will work out. Well.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was say Central Intelligence, Dwayne Johnson and Kevin
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Hart had amazing chemistry and that's what made that movie
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: work for me. And Kenneth brought out when I say,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: when I said earlier, like, I don't think of him
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: as a comedic actor. He does a lot of comedy
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and he is good at it, but it's usually couched
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like, even with like much ado, right like
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: it was, it was couched in in drama.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: And it was classic comedy like classics is in like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Shakespearean comedy, not not like your modern comedy.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like that's my deduction to him was, you know,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: being a classical actor. So but I love it. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: think it's great. I agree. I think they have amazing
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: chemistry and I'm super looking forward to it if I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: can stop, Like multiple times in the trailer, I'm like, no,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: that is Zat Galifanakis, who I feel like has a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: much broader sense of comedy but is also a very
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: funny person who can also translate to drama just as
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: easily as Kenneth Branna can translate to comedy.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: So next up we have a trailer for a drama.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: But although there's some like humor in the trailer as
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: well for a film called The Scout, and it's about
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: a location scout, someone who goes out and tries to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: find shooting locations for TV and film. In this case,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: it's a young woman who's trying to find an interior
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: shooting location for a television pilot. And this is based
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: off a screenplay written by Paula Gonzales Nasser, who was
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: a location scout, and so she wrote this kind of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: based off her own sort of experiences doing that job.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: And here's here's something that I think you'll be impressed by, Ariel.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: The principal photography was shot over ten days. Wow, just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: ten days, and this comes out September twenty fifth. I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: was curious to get your reaction to this because you
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: being in you know, the biz, you know, you have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: a growing familiarity with the different roles that go on,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: including things like these, these production roles that a lot
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: of people just don't think about, like the folks who
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: are in charge of finding and securing those locations for
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: location shoots. What did you think of the trailer?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I have had friends who have
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: specifically marketed their homes as a great place to film,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: like as some side income. And I've also had some
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: friends who were location scouts. It's a super interesting job
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: but also super hard because you have to find locations
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: that fit, and if somebody isn't advertising that location near you,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: it's difficult to find spaces that might be what you're
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: looking for, especially for like interior shots, I would think,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and it's just one of those things that I don't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people really think about. They think about, oh,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: that must be a cool job or an easy job.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: And I would wager to say there are jobs in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: the film industry that you love to do, but I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say any of them are easy.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, And you think about this, like, this
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: is a job that involves not just finding a location,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: but then you have to talk to the owners or
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the residents and work with them and like so there's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of human interaction that's going to be different
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: from case to case. I'm sure there's going to be
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: some like friction in there. I've actually had the experience
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: of working with a location scout who was scouting our
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: townhouses for a low cation for a little film called
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Bebdriver and uh, and so they had to work with
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: me because at the time, not that I wanted to be,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: but I was the president of our HOA, so they
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: had to negotiate with me. And I was like, let's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: negotiate so that no, so that we have enough money
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: secured so that no one has to pay h o
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: A fees for one month.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be that would be really cool.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: That was awesome of you. But you also, like you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: have to talk to the people, and you don't know
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: who these people are, how they're going to react, Like,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: as as someone who sometimes feels a little introverted, it
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: feels like the scariest job in Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, like like for people who are not uh
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: not comfortable speaking with strangers, this would be a very
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: very challenging job. And yeah, because you really find the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: perfect location. But if it turns out that the person
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: who owns the thing is either predatory or a weirdo
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: or you know whatever, you know, that could mean like, well,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: this would be ideal, but I can't make this work,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: so I have to move on. Like that's got to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: be frustrating and challenging.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at first I thought the trailer was going to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: be a romantic comedy, like maybe she falls in love
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: with the person whose house she's scouting, but it's not that.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a romantic comedy coming up in a bit,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: but yeah, this comes out September twenty fifth. I think
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: it looks like an interesting drama, like really like a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: low budget independent drama. It's not too heavy, you know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: it's not like it doesn't feel like it's going to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: be depressing or anything like that. But I'm curious about
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: it because it is telling the story of people who
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: do intrinsic jobs in the film industry that never get
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: talked about.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it looks interesting. I want to watch it,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and we'll move on to the next trailer, which I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: do not want to watch the movie for.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Digger.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: The full trailer for Digger.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so we get the full trailer. I can
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you speak to what it is about this project that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: just makes you like want to nope out.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, So, on the surface level, it feels very uh
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Doctor Strange Love or How I Learned to Stop worrying
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and love the Ball? Is that the full title? Yeah,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: that's it, Which I do like that movie, but I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: didn't watch that movie in an era where it felt
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: super relevant to current events. Yeah, this definitely feels that way.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: It feels like that movie, but meaner spirited and grosser,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I can enjoy satire, though it is always
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: harder to enjoy satire when it feels a little too
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: close to home, which it does for me. But it's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: just it's it feels mean spirited and it feels like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: grossy humor in a way that I just don't appreciate.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: And we already have very strong like it's satire that's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: pointing out things that we already agree with, right, So, like,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: if it were satire that we're opening our eyes to something,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: then it would have a lot of value to it.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: But if you already agree with what the overall message is,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: then the satire just comes across as like yeah, I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: mean yes, yeah, okay, yes, So anyway, Diggers, it's the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: movie with Tom Cruise where he's playing an aging oil
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: tycoon who his work the whole industry has contributed to,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: you know, climate change and natural disasters are coming to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: a head, and he's trying to find a way to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: spin things so that he's not made out to be
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: the cause of all these problems when he actually is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: the cause and he's like, yeah, but you know, you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: just got to control the story. You don't actually have
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: to solve a problem. You just have to control the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: story so that people don't even see that don't acknowledge
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: that there's a problem in the first place, which is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: pretty rough when you're sitting there thinking about, like, yeah,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: that is kind of how, especially in the United States,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of leaders treat the issue of climate change.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: So I can see why you wouldn't want to necessarily
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: watch it because it's pretty depressing. John Goodman is playing
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: the president of this and he's a very frail president.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Seems like he's at death's door. This comes out October second.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: It does look like it's going to be a Tour
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Divorce kind of performance from Tom Cruise, because it's one
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: of those where he's like disappearing into a character and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: he's not just playing Tom Cruise action man. But I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: can like, part of me wants to see it because
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I want to see this performance from Tom Cruise, But
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of me is agreeing with you in that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: the message of this movie is one that I'm already
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: really cognizant of, and I don't know that I need
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: to watch this because if it's like a real satire,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: it's all going to have a dark ending, I would imagine.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Also, just so just in case, just in case anyone
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: hears it, we're getting hit by a big old thunderstorm
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: right now here at my house.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if if it's if it's an episode that
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: cuts abruptly, it's because one of us has lost power.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Possibly both, Yeah, hopefully neither. I do like the cast
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: of Digger. I just yeah. The next the next trailer
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard about until you added it to this lineup,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: but I absolutely do want to watch. It's for a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: movie called The Incomer.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the plot here is that there are these
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: two grown siblings, a brother and a sister, whose parents
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: died when they were young, who live on an island.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: They're the only two inhabitants on this island, and they
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: have sort of created their own mythology in their journey
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: of survival on this island, and that mythology includes defending
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: the island against incomers. And that brings us to Domino Gleason,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: who is playing a land recovery coordinator who is tasked
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: by his boss to go to this island and relocate
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: the two siblings to the mainland so that they can
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: develop on this little island. And so he goes there
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: and he faces a very confrontational pair of siblings. The
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: sister in particular is confrontational, and then eventually starts to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: you know, become friends with them, win over their trust,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: and also starts to sympathize with them quite a bit,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: at least as far as the trailer shows. And it
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: looks funny and wholesome in weird ways, yes.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: And heartwarming and emotional. Everything about this trailer I loved,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: which I have to say because at first I was like, Oh,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: that's that act in Glow that Gail Rankin plays his sister,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: and she was also in Glow. And when she was
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: in Glow, I had a couple of friends who are like,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you look like her, And I'm like, why do you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: always pick the most bizarre character to say I look
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: like Now it's a compliment. I think she's gorgeous, but
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I also don't think I look that much like her anymore.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: But Yeah, great cast, delightful story. I'm very much looking
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: forward to it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes to the UK on September fourth. I
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: don't have any international dates yet, so it may be
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: a while before we see this here in the States.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it looks like a fun trailer. I would
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: also throw a little bit of the Wicker Man in there,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: not from the horror aspect, but like this idea of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: like a in this case is a community of just
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: two people, but they've created this belief system that they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: adhere to that is a little fantastical and interesting and
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: a little odd.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Next up, we're getting adaptation of an Australian novel from
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: the early nineteen hundreds called My Brilliant Career. This is,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: by the way, not the first adaptation. This one's a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: six part mini series that's coming to Netflix. Previously, there
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: was a film adaptation in the late seventies starring Judy
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Davis and the late Sam Neil may He Rest in Peace.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah. It's about a woman who wants to be
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: a writer. It's a period piece. She writes romance, steamy,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: spicy romance stories. It seems like yep, and people are like, no,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: just live your normal period woman's life of getting married and.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, find a man of property to get married to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: and shut up. And she wants to be a writer. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: I thought this looked very charming. I am not familiar
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: with this novel, nor have I seen the nineteen seventies movie,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: so this was new to me, and it's coming to
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Netflix on August thirteenth. It looks it looks like it's well,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: charming is the right word for it, at least in
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: my opinion. It looks like I like the character. I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: like the character and her ambition of becoming a writer
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: and her frustration with the fact that her family and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: society at large don't want her to go in that direction.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been looking for a new period show to watch,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: so this will fill that space nicely.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Yep. And then we've got a comedy trailer for All
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Night Wrong, which I had not heard of at all.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Zach Cherry and Maria Bakalova are in this. I love
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Zach Cherry like I was unfamiliar with his work, but
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: then he showed up in Severance, and he showed up
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: in Fallout, and I really like his performances. And the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: premise here is that he and Maria Bakalova are playing
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: characters who are set up on a blind date and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: things go about as wrong as you possibly can.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's highly comedic. It looks it looks delightful and funny.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: It is. It is a broader comedy, but in a
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: good way. It looks like.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that involves them like stealing a car that belongs
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: to like a serial killer, and there's money and apparently
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: a dead body in the back that turns out to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: not be such a dead body in the back, and.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Then maybe it is a dead body.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Later Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe maybe graduates to fully dead
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: body by the end.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It also has Emily Hampshire in it and Taylor Lebine,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: who are both great comedic actors as well.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this really appealed to me. I usually these kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: of movies like that, they just don't they don't capture
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: my imagination. But this one, the combination of the performances
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: and just how absurd the escalation appears to be in
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: the movie kind of has me intrigued. It comes out
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: August fourteenth, so I might check this one out. This
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: looks like it would be a fun like date movie.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It looks. It looks like a lot
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: of fun. The next one is a date movie that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: looks less fun to me. It's called Duest Part and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: basically maybe Jonathan liked it more than me. It's a
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: did it's a rom colm where a guy's getting married
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: and his sister shows up and has slept with the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: best man. I think is what it is. No, No,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: that's what I saw.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: That's that's there's a bit in that where the best
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: man has also slept with the groom's sister. But that's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: not what this story is about. His story is about
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: a wedding where ah, this guy's college sweetheart crashes his
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: wedding in order to talk to the groom and say
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: try and have a heart to heart about how she
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: still loves him, but she's the one who broke his
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: heart back in college. And meanwhile he's trying to get
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: married to a totally different woman. And so the best
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: man's trying to run interference and be like, what the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: heck are you thinking? You know this is crazy for
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: you to come in and disrupt his wedding. You have
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: no right to do this, like you broke his heart.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: And then she's like, but I love him, and I
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: think we need to have this conversation. What world do
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: you live in where you think that this is appropriate?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, also you find out the best man has
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: his own past as a kind of serial womanizer who
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: slept his way through most of the women that everybody
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: else knows in this group, including the groom's little sister
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: at some point. Little being younger, not Little. It's not
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: that kind of movie. It comes to digital release on
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: August fourteenth. So yeah, I thought it was funny. I
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: also like, I mean, I immediately reacted with what an
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: incredibly selfish thing to do to show up at someone's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: wedding to say, but I love you? Like that's that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: time has asked. You have missed your window, Like you
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: got to just deal with it. You can't sit there
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: and go like, you know what before you actually say
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the words, even though by the time you've got your
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: certificate you really kind of are married already. Yeah, I'm
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna have this last ditch effort to talk
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: to you. I'm like, no, it's too late, too little,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: too late, But it made me it is. But like,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: comedy is often built on a premise of some of
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: the less noble human behaviors. Uh, And then did you
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: get a chance to watch this next one or not?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Because I added it really late.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I watched the clip. I don't really know what's going
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: on or what the story is about, other than it's
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: two twin sisters on a stand during a in court.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will explain because this is an interesting thing.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: So we got a clip, not a trailer, but a
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: clip from a movie called Bucking Fastered. I have to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: say that very carefully in a family friendly show. This
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: is a Werner Herzog movie, and it's based off a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: true story. The true story is that in the nineteen
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: eighties there were these twin sisters, Freda and Greta Chaplin,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: and they were both fixated on the same man who
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: eventually put out a restraining order on both of them,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: and they were known. There were identical twin sisters who
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: were known to move in unison and speak in unison.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: They were incredibly codependent upon one another. And Herzog was
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: aware of this story. There's a documentary that was made
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: about these sisters and the whole court case and everything,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: but Herzog wasn't familiar with the story, and he was
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: fascinated and decided to make a movie that was inspired
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: by this. I don't think it's supposed to be like
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: an actual biopic kind of thing, but Kate and Rooney
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Mara real life sisters are playing the twins and they've
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: never worked together, so that's kind of fun that they're
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: now doing a movie together and they have to move
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: and speak in unison.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: They do a really good job at that bit.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they do. Orlando Bloom and Dominal Gleeson are
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: both in this as well, so we get more Gleason
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: in this. This is going to play at the Venice
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Film Festival in September. There's no like distribution date for it.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Beyond that, I'm sure it will get distribution. It's Verner Hertzog.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: It's gonna get distribution. I thought the real story behind
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: what was you know, inspiring for the film was really interesting,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh, okay, so I get where he
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: got his inspiration from. But it's Verner Hertzog, So things
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: I think are going to get real like weird in
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: this movie. So I'm curious about it. I definitely would
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: like to see it, and the time.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Knowing more about it, I'm interested too.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The titles based off a verbal flub that apparently
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: both sisters made at the same time during that court case. Interesting, yeah,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: which is raises questions like how does that work?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It just reminds me of that song we
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: used to sing it fair where my husband's a fig plucker.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And you gotta be real
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: careful with that one. Uh yeah, it's I will say
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: that the real story ends up being kind of I mean,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: it's definitely a little sad, but like one of the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: two sisters died, you know, like a decade or two
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: before the other because she had cancer and passed away
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: from it. The other sister, though, continued to live on
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and when she passed, she had inherited her family's estate,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: which was fairly considerable, and she ended up donating the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: whole thing to an animal like rescue organization because she
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: loved her dog and her cat, so she decided that
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: she didn't have any other relative she wanted to give
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: it to. She gave it to the charity. Like, well,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: that's kind of cool, that is.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to know that she was able to
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: find a decent life after her sister and did some good.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, because like you hear about like a
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: relationship like that, you start to you think, well, there's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: something there's some mental, something mentally different about these two,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: and you worry that if a relationship truly is codependent,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: what happens when one of them is out of the picture.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: But apparently it wasn't as dire as I was worried about.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: So speaking of that, Ariel, let us walk together down
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: this quiet forest path, and that night has fallen suddenly,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: and that a chill breeze is rattling the branches above
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: our heads, and in the distance we hear an owl
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: hoot forlornly. Otherwise the only sounds are coming from the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: leaves beneath our feet as we walk ever onward. And
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: what's that. There's a there's a cloaked figure hunched on
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: the side of the path up ahead, and their back
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: is to us. The figure pauses and stiffens, and then
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: stands up impossibly fast and turns on us. And that's
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: when we see the mysterious figure is in fact an enormous,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: drooling spider wearing a cloak, and it hisses at us
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: and rushes forward, and it drives us back into John
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Boy's horror hutch. Welcome to the horror hutch, everybody, We're
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: safe in here. Spider hasn't Spider hasn't figured out how
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: to open hutches.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Yet for once, I may never leave the hutch.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Did you watch any of the trailers? But this week?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: That's fair? Okay, let me run these real fast. So
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I've got three that I want to highlight, and then
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: a couple, well, a few more that I'm gonna just
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: mention quickly. So the three that I'm highlighting first up
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: as Hellcat. This is an upcoming horror film under the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: Shutter brand, so it'll be airing on Shutter on August fourteenth.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: It follows a young woman who wakes up in a
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: mobile home that's being towed behind a truck. She doesn't
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: really know where she is, she doesn't know who's driving
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: the truck, but she's able to talk to the driver
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: over an intercom, and he tells her that she is
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: infected with something and she needs to get to a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: doctor within an hour or she will die. And so
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: she suspects she's been abducted and that this guy's up
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: to no good, but she also starts to experience some
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: weird symptoms that raise questions. The childer gives us a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: few hints about this, and I felt like it was
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: a really fun and creepy premise. It kind of reminded
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: me a little bit of ten Cloverfield Blaine, where you're
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: not really sure if the person who has saved our
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: protagonist is a savior or a threat, like you don't
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: really know, and I think that's kind of cool. Like
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: I said, it comes to shutter on August fourteenth, priamely
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: means I won't be seeing it anytime soon. I used
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: to have shudder, but I eventually canceled that one just
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: because I wasn't watching it enough.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Is this the one you told me I should watch? Uh?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There was one I told you definitely
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: should not watch, but I thought this one was interesting.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: It's got some body horror stuff in it, though, so
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: it's kind of creepy. Next up, we have The whisper Man.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: This is an adaptation of Alex North's novel. It actually
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: falls into the crime thriller genre, so we could have
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: probably put this in the previous section, made it even longer,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: but the serial killer elements I think push it a
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: little bit more toward horror, just not supernatural horror. It's
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: crime thriller horror, so more like you know, Silence of
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: the Lambs kind of stuff. So it's about an author,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: a true crime author who has his son abducted his son,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: or his son is abducted from him. He doesn't have
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: his son abducted, someone else does that. But he then
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: turns to his father, who is a retired police detective,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: to try and track down the kid. And it seems
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: like there's a connection to an old and presumably closed
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: criminal case of a serial killer known as the Whisper Man.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: And Adam Scott plays the writer. Robert de Niro plays
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: his father. It looks really tense and it comes to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Netflix on August twenty eighth, so I'll probably check this
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: one out because it looks good. And then the one
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: that I think I'm most excited about is a movie
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: called Other Mommy, and I loved this trailer. It's a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: supernatural horror movie. It stars Jessica Chastain. She plays a
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: character named Ursula, who is the mother of a girl
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: named Bella and the wife of a man named Russ.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: And at some point, an entity that assumes Ursula's appearance,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: like a doppelganger, invades the family home and seems to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: want to lure Bella away. This is an adaptation of
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: a novel by Nathan Elston that is titled Incidents Around
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: the House. It comes out on October ninth. Super effective trailer.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I really really liked it, very creepy. Don't know if
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to find anyone to go with me,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: because since it involves a doppel ganger luring a small child,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I think that would trip Chay's No No list. But
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: I got a few more movies I want to mention.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: So there's a zombie film called Turning Point. The interesting
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: thing about Turning Point is that it's a movie where
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: you have these two young people who are home invaders.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: They're they're trying to steal stuff, but the target house
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: that they've invaded, the guy inside is turning into a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: zombie and has barricaded the house from the inside to
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: prevent him from being able to get out. He's trying
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: to stop himself from hurting anyone else, but ironically, two
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: people have broken into his house, so they become, you know,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: potential victims of the zombie. That's a neat premise. There's
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: also a giant spider monster movie called Don't Move that
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Aeriel absolutely can't watch. There's a over the top gross
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: out horror movie called Woozy that is coming out soon.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: I'm just mentioning these in case you're a horror fan
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: you want to look these up. There's a trailer for
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: Crystal Lake, which is the series spin off of the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Friday the Thirteenth movies. It looks pretty good. I think
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: the trailer looks pretty strong. And then we got a
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: new trailer for Resident Evil. I cannot wait to watch it.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: It looks great, but we've talked about Resident Evil before,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: so I didn't want to spend too much time on it.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the new Resident Evil trailer. I will
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: have to watch it because I agreed that it looks good.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: The only thing is that there's some CGI moments where
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: it's bodies hitting like cars down the say street, Like
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: it's like a series of bodies that are hitting these
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: cars and you're getting like CGI blood splatters, and I'm
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: just like, it just looks like CGI, I kinda. I mean,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: not that I wish they had just thrown dummies out
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: windows and with like blood packs or whatever, but it
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: would have looked better to me, I think, but that
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: was the only thing that I had. Anyway, Now I
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: think we can emerge from the hutch because the Cloak
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Spider has scampered off to devour a bear or something.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: All right, well, if it comes back.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: I'm out understandable. But now let's move on to our
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: actual show notes, which are the shortest part of our
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: our episode this week.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first is probably the one that's gotten
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: the biggest chatter. We got a trailer finally for Avengers Doomsday.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just in time, just in time for Comic Con.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: It mostly is told from the perspective of four as
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: he's trying to warn various heroes about this oncoming threat. Like,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: the implication seems to be that Thor feels the threat
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: is greater than any he's ever faced before. And I'm like, dude,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: you went up against Thanos. How is Doctor Doom worse
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: than Thanos?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, it is exciting to see all these characters
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: that I enjoyed have a chance to come back, and
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I hope they're utilized well as opposed to just cameos,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Like I hope that they get to have cool stories
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: because I like stories with those characters in them, when
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: those actors playing those characters in them, as opposed to
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: just like like the Mario movies or a lot of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: other movies where it's like, hey, look at this sing.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: You like this sing? Right? Okay? That's all?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, where it's just reference after reference.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that, And this is not Marvel's fault.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Obviously they couldn't have anticipated this. I think, like having
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: to pivot off of King to Doctor Doom. They had
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: spent so much time building up the threat of King
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: that they haven't had a chance to build up any
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: weariness around Doctor Doom.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I had the exact same note. I was like,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: the biggest challenge this film faces is that they have
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: not established Doctor Doom as any kind of threat, and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: so for him to go from nothing to world ending
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: with no build up is hard. Like, the only thing
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: we've seen is a very short post credits clip from
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: Fantastic Four. That's it. We haven't seen anything with Doctor
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Doom and or had anyone talk about Doctor Doom. So
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: there's no But here's the thing. When I was looking
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: this up, just to look at the release date again,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: which is December eighteenth, says this movie is reportedly two
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: hours forty five minutes long, and they're like, well, of
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: course it needs to be for two reasons. You need
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: to establish Doctor Doom is actually a threat so you
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: need to have some time to do that. And also,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: you've got a crap ton of characters in this and
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: if you're going to give them any more than like
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: ten seconds of screen time, it's going to have to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: be an epic long film. But I agree with you,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: like having to pivot off Kang. I wish they had
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: just recast, just recast Kang like they've recast other characters
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: in MCU, like they've recast Hulk. They recast a war machine,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: like that'll just do it.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I now, albeit they recast Hulk well after, like it
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: is really easy to overlook the first Hulk movie as
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: even being involved in the MCU.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean it is, but it's easy to forget.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to forget because it was at the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: very beginning it got mixed reviews. I enjoyed it, but
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't until they brought it back in
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: in this latest round. I I think recasting King would
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: have been better. But I also feel like the outside
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: of Loki, which I love Loki. I liked both seasons.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: I thought the first season was stronger, but I really
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: enjoyed both seasons of Loki, which is where they first
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: brought in King, I feel like, and I feel like
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: the second season just didn't escalate him enough as a
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: villain because there's so many versions of him, and the
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: version of him they focused on just chewed the scenery
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: so slowly that I like, much like something else we're
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: about to talk about, like the pacing lost all urgency
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: to me, Like, I don't feel I feel King was
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: already kind of whiffing, So maybe that's why they fully
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: pivoted instead of recasting Kang.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: Kang was great at the end of the first season
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: of Loki and then was a big nothing burger for me.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: For ant Man and Quantumania.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind him in Anti ant Man. In Quantumania,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: I will say I really enjoyed that the end fight
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: in that movie spoilers if you haven't watched it, but
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: it was also so old now, like was a full
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: on punch face and see who can go harder, which
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: was really nice. It was a nice change, but he
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: was pretty generic in that they tried to make him
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: a villain who you almost side with at moments and
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: tried to make him sympathy and it just didn't quite work.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: So I can I can understand them fully pivoting, but
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: there hasn't been enough build up.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: I also also also I'm sorry, I don't mean to no, no,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: please please, but also there was no resolution to the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Kang thing. Yeah, right, Like it's not just that they pivoted,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: it's that they ever addressed like the end of ant
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: Man in Quantitmania, you see, like the collection of Kangs, right,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: like all these different multiverse versions of Kang, and they
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: never wrap that up. Like I know that by that
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: time they couldn't work with the actor anymore. John Major,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: in case you're wondering.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I do hope he says that he's working on
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: getting better. And I really hope that's.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: The case me too.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: But like.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Not even like a throwaway line as far as I'm
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: ironm aware. Granted, I have not seen everything Marvel's put
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: out since Quantumnia, Like I still haven't seen Secret Invasion,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: but oh that's what I heard. But or iron Heart.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched iron Heart.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched iron Heart, and I didn't watch.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen wonder Man yet that one.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have seen the movies, and they don't
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: mention him in the movies. There's a chance that they'll
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: bring it up in Doomsday.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just like, maybe maybe ant Man will
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: have a little off moment where he's talking to low Key.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: He's like, man, I thought Kang was gonna be a problem,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: but he's nothing compared to this guy.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do hope it's good. I really liked
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: the end of was it phase one where we got
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: endgame and all that?
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well no it was a phase one. That's Phase four.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Okay. I really liked all of that, and this feels
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: like that, right, and so it wants to bring up
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: those same feelings. But it's also going to have to
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: be a good story. I feel like, while I've been
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: able to enjoy enjoy things like thor Love and Thunder
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: and the New Captain America with the Red Hulk and which,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: although that was mainly just for the actors involved, the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: actors acted their butts off. The story was not great.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wanted to like it because I like Anthony
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: Mackie a lot. I did not like that movie.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: No, but even I even thought like Harrison Ford fully
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: committed to his character as well. It just the story
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: was not good. Yeah.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: What about Guardians three? I don't like, Oh, it's animal,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: Animal stuff.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched it and it just depressed me. Like
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: it was well done and there were moments that were good.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: I did not feel it as it was as good
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: as the first two, and then just the entire plot
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: line of it was something that I watched it because
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I felt like I should. It destinated it. It was
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: very dissonant with the things that I like, yeah, or
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: enjoying anyway. However, I did like Guardians of the Galaxy
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Christmas special, and I've enjoyed all of the Spider Man's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: which is why I'm so excited for the New Spider Man,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: because even the weaker stories in that Tom Holland series
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: have still been fun to me.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the last one was probably the weakest in my opinion,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: but I still enjoyed myself. I loved I loved all
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: the moments with the three Spider Men. You know, that
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: was great. It's just like I wish the story had
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: been slightly stronger than what they.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Got, but I still enjoyed it. Now. I enjoyed Thor,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Love in Front, Thunder just fine. I enjoyed Multiverse of Madness.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Like You're the only one who liked Love and Thunder enjoyed.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they were good movies. I thought
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: they were super weak compared especially compared to like Ragnarok, which, yeah,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: the First Lure was so cool because it was the
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: first of the Thores, and then Ragnarok was so fun
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: that It's just I feel like that Peaked and Multiverse
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: of Madness had a lot of cool stuff in it,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: even though again the story overall was frustrating, and I
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: understand a lot of people not liking what they did
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: with Wanda, who was set up to be such a
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: strong character in Wanda Vision. So I completely understand all
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: of the criticism around that movie. Again, I enjoyed the
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Journey just fine. It wasn't quite as scary as I
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: wanted it to be, and that was my biggest complaint.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: So I hope this is good. I'm just chattering a
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: whole lot.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: It's fine, No, I have the same hope. It's hard
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: because they don't have the same foundation that the Infinity
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Warrent in Game movies had, right like they had some
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: not every film leading up to Infinity Warren in Game
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: was solid, but there were I think I would argue
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: there were more solid films than not solid. I don't
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: think you can make that argument. Since then, I think
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: there have been some solid films, but I think more
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: over there have been some ones that were at best
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: only successful to a certain degree, and otherwise we're failures,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: both creatively and financially. So this movie's carrying a whole
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: lot of baggage. It's got a lot of stuff to
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: overcome in order for it to be a really good movie.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: And maybe it will succeed. But in a way that
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: just frustrates me more because it tells me, oh, you
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: could have done better, but you made so many bad choices.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: They did make so many bad choices. And if they
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: course correct, which I know they're trying to do, right,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: Kevin Feige has said, no, thank you, I got it right.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Kevin Feige has said that they needed to pull back
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: and release things slower and bring out more interesting villains
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, more diverse stories. So if they're doing
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: that with this, if they succeed, that's great, I think
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: to get that feel because they don't have that foundation,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: which again we said is partially not their fault. Without
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: waiting until all of the actors have way aged out
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: everything that they can play, they're relying on the nostalgia
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: from the previous actors, which is why I think they're
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: bringing Captain America back, which I wish they had not
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: spoiled twice twice because at the end of this trailer
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: they make it well, the previous things were weird and
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: discincru right, but the end of this trailer they made
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: it feel like a reveal, And I'm like, why couldn't
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: you just let that be the reveal in the movie? Right?
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: And but we also know from like key Man, which
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: was not an amazing movie, but it was a really
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: fun movie. Banking on that nostalgia from an older audience
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: is not necessarily going to get you the audience you
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: need to make the movie successful.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at this point, this movie's got to be
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: like crazy expensive, right, Like you just from the salaries alone,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: the budget for this film's got to be stress spheric.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: So here's hoping. Like I'll say this, the trailer made
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: me more interested in the movie than any of the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: teaser stuff has up to this posture. So but you know,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: that's while acknowledging these massive challenges that MCU faces to
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: reach success. Now let's go to a big nothing burger.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I put this in just because like at the time,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: it was one of the few things that was popping
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: up and I just didn't take it out, which is
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: that we got a camera test teaser for The Batman too,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: which is literally just to look at Pattinson as Batman.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I didn't notice any drastic changes
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: from his costume from the first film.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: No, and I didn't. I know that we differ on
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: this song. I did not like The Batman. I think
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: you liked it.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: I liked the Riddler in the bat I know you didn't,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: because that's your favorite you villain. But I like that
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: interpretation of the Riddler. I don't think it's like the
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: one and only interpretation. I just like that interpretation. But
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: everything else about The Batman I kind of didn't like, because,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: especially since everyone was talking about how the Batman was
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: finally a detective again, I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: His butler's the only one who figures anything out, and
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: even then it's too late.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: I thought the casting was good. Some of the cast well,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: I thought some of the casting was good. I thought
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: John Taturo as Falconi was fantastic. I thought Zoe Kravitz
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: did a great job as Catwoman, and surprisingly I thought
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Andy Kirk Serkis did a great job as Pennyworth but
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: as Alfred, but like, I felt like everybody was misutilized.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: The pacing was too slow, and this camera test where
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: they're just like dark, dark, dark, Like the first five
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: seconds of this tiny teaser trailer is just darkness. Yeah,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: and then just a slow pan around Batman. I'm like,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: you're just reinstilling everything I hated about the first movie
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: in this twenty seconds.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: On and this movie doesn't come out till twenty twenty eight,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: Like it's another year and a half before this movie
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: comes out.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Piercing people well, so slow.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: That's the thing is that when you're making a movie
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: that that's slow, it takes a long time. I like,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: I'll reserve judgment until I see trailers for the next one. Like,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: there are elements of the Batman I liked a lot,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: but there are other elements that I found really perplexingly
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: odd from a choice perspective. Like, again, Batman does not
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: really use his detective skills at all in that movie.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: He's dependent entirely upon a computer and Alfred, and he fails.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Like Gotham is essentially a good section of Gotham is
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: essentially destroyed because Batman is not able to stop it.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, if this is just to establish Batman's,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: like his mentality moving forward, and like how much he
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: puts upon himself and how brutal he is against bad guys,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: I guess that kind of makes sense. But it's a
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: bummer of a way to end your movie.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, it's not a fun watch. It's not a
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: compelling watch. I understand that your hero can't figure everything out,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: even if they're the greatest detective, right, Like, you have
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: to get some stuff over Sherlock because otherwise there's no story. Yeah,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: but also you can't have them constantly fail because it's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: so boring.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: But I still really liked Paul Dano's The Riddler. I
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: know that it's not not your your cup of tea,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: but I really dug, you're not quitting Tarantino.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Then I also don't have a foot thing.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: So moving on, we have another We have two more
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: Batman related stories. We've got Batman Nightfall Part one. We
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: got a full trailer for this. We talked a bit
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: about this a couple of weeks ago. This is the
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: first in a big trilogy of story arcs about Batman
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: where you know, it's the introduction of Bain. It's Batman's uh,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: he gets defeated by Bain and is taken off the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: roster for a long time. And another character known as
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: their alter egos. Yeah, that's our alter egos. Asrael assumes
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: the cowl of Batman, but he's much less stable, that's
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: saying something than Bruce Wayne.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Which which is also like also like he overlooks all
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: of his protege to put this unstable person in his place.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean he does have a habit of killing
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: Robins off.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: Actually only one Robin ever died, and of course, like
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: all the characters and comics didn't die permanently.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: But this Nightfall trailer really focuses on that first section,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: which is Bane, which leads to an unhappy place. It
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: focus is less on the Asrael section of it.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah that'll be that'll be in the follow ups because
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: that's more of the story in the following arcs. But
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: it looks it looks well done. But honestly, like this
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: is a story that's already been told. It's like ancient
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: and comic book terms, but it looks like they did
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: a decent adapting It comes out August twenty fifth on
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: digital release in September eighth on Blu ray and DVD.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I liked this trailer better than the
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: first one because they wanted to try to cramp so much.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: In Yeah, I did too, but like, I'm way more
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: excited about Cape Crusader Season two than I am about this. Oh,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: I'm also more excited about Clayface. That's our third Batman
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: related story. We got a full trailer for clay Face,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: and oddly enough, was that thunder on your end. Oddly enough,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: I found this one less disturbing than the teaser was. Like,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: I still thought it was disturbing, but I was able
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: to stomach it a lot. But the teaser really unsettled me.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: This one. I think maybe because I was a little
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: more prepared, I wasn't as unsettled. I still think that
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: it's incredible effects like the Great CGI or whatever. But
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this one a lot. What did
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: you think about it?
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: So, the teaser didn't unsettle me until I saw it
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: on the big screen, and then it was very unsettling.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: It was a lot harder to watch on the big screen.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: This one only upset me from a body horror position,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: like because I've seen clay Face. I actually like Clayface's
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: origin a lot. You know, it's it's very actory. There's
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: a few origins, but most commonly I see the one
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: where he was an actor who got disfigured and tried
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: to fix it, and I like that story. I think
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: it's interesting and I think they've done some very cool
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: things with it. So the only body horror part that
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: got me was when he tries to cut open his
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: eyes in the airplane, which they didn't even show.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: They just prefaced yep, the show him raising the scissors
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: to his eyes.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like this is the trailer didn't do
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: it for me. I I don't know. Maybe it's because
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: it's in the same world as the Penguin and the
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Batman and all of that that I just already have
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: this kind of like I don't want to step into
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: that world anymore. Mentality. I think the actors look great,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: I think the moments are good. I just feel like
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen more compelling clay Face stories. From the trailer.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I hope it's fantastic and I'm wrong. I will probably
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: watch it. It just didn't grab me.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of. I think I'm the opposite. I think
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: it grabbed me pretty hard, and I'm very much looking
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: forward to it, partly because I'm interested in a d C,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: you know, superpowered, you know person movie that's largely horror based,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: like very very much horror coded. But also I read
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: that the doctor, who is the person who gives him
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: the capability of the molding himself to look like his
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: former appearance, was reportedly inspired by Elizabeth Holmes. She's the
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: one who did the Darrenos Company, who who kind of
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: got in way too deep, way too fast, and then
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: found herself in a trap of her own making. Like, Oh,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. And the other thing that definitely has me
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: interested in this is that Mike Flanagan was one of
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: the screenwriters, and I have loved Mike Flanagan's horror ork.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: I think he does a great job with it. So
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: I am very much looking forward to this. Whether or
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: not it comes out, I come out of it saying
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: that was a compelling story. I don't know, but I'm
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: compelled by the action and the moments that we saw
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: in the trailer. I don't know if the story will
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: hold up to that, but with Flannagan, you know behind
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: at least one of the pens. I have some confidence
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: it comes out October twenty third, So it looks like
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: to me like it would be a good, like Halloween
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: horror movie kind of thing to check out.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope it's awesome and I hope that
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: I enjoy it. The next we've get a trailer for
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: The Uprising, which is about King Richard the Sacan.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the thirteen eighty one peasants revolt that was
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: led by, well, depending on which historian you're referencing, led
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: by a guy named Wat Tyler. And in this it's
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: a Paul Greengrass film. He wrote and directed it. Andrew
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Garfield plays Watt Tyler, who is a peasant who is
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: kind of sick and tired of having taxis. Taxis, not taxes,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: not taxis. Gosh, I am tired.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: For Tyler hates taxis. That's the story.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: It is warm and I haven't had lunch, and I
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: am fading, But we're almost there. Taxes and various impositions
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: placed upon the peasant class. So he gets a bunch
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: of upset peasants and marches on London and order to
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: confront King Richard thecond and demand reform. I won't spoil
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: the story for you, but I wouldn't count on things
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: turning out great for wat Tyler because I know the history.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: I'm a medievalist, so I studied the thirteen eighty one
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: Peasants Revolt. I know what happens. It'll be upsetting. I'll
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: say that. Also this comes out, I mean, I don't know, man,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll be able to watch this
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: because this comes out the same day as the fix
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: September eleventh.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, yeah, I have no idea. Now it looks
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. It looks like an interesting more it
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: looks interesting, more interesting to me than Brave Heart.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see if this is
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: more historically accurate than Braveheart. Braveheart was was remarkably inaccurate,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: like to the point where like characters like the French
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: princess that that Mel Gibson's William Wallace ends up sleeping
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: with was in France and was like four years old
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: at the time of the events of Braveheart. So that
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: was not at all historically accurate. So we'll see if
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: this is any closer. I don't know, this is it's tough.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: It's King Richard the Second. That's pretty early on, but
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see King Richard the Second depicted on film.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: You don't usually see that. He's not a particularly popular king.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it looks like an interesting movie. The
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: next movie is one that has been making waves at
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: San Diego Comic Con. It's called Ebenezer. Yeah, where Jack Sparrow.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was confused by this because my impression with
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: the early marketing material was that this was not a
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: Christmas Carol. This was a prequel that would explore Ebenezer
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Scrooge's life pre Christmas Carol, which is odd because if
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: you've read and or seen any adaptation of a Christmas Carol,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you get sections of Scrooge's past that's like
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: a big part of it. That's the ghost of Christmas past.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: So I thought it was going to be that, and
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: then we got the trailer and it turns out no,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: this is an adaptation of a Christmas Carol, just like
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: we've seen a billion times before, only this is more Gothic,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: and with Johnny Depp as Scrooge.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, and there are moments and so the thing that
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: he's doing in San Diego comic Con other than talking
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: on a couple of panels. Is he was basically set
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: up in a little house front sort of area to
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: come out and act like Scrooge to a bunch of
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: other actors who were random townspeople for people at San
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Diego Comicon to enjoy little vignettes. And there are moments
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: where I think he does Grooge very well, and I
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: think he's crotchety and I'm just like, Okay, you've disappeared
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: into this character, and then the next moment he's goofy
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: Jack Sparrow again.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this does have a well. First of all, Ty
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: West directed this, which totally throws me. Ty West is
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: you might know him from he did Triple X, he
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: did Pearl, he did Yeah, he did The Innkeepers, he
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: did the was It House of the Devil. Like he's
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: mostly known or I mostly know him as a horror director.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: This does not look like it's a horror inspired Christmas Carol.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: It looks there's so much comedy in him.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Goofy.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There are some other interesting folks in the cast.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: Rupert Grint is Bob Cratchett, and his wife is played
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: by Daisy Ridley. Ian McKellen is Jacob Marley, so there
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: are some other interesting actors. It comes out November thirteenth.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I was more interested. I wasn't.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think I was interested at all when I
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: thought it was a prequel. But somehow I'm even less interested.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: That's just another adaptation of the book.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm just I just want Johnny Depp to
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: play a character where I don't see Jack Sparrow somewhere
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Ariel and I are we are both standouts,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: like we don't fall in line with the general discourse
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: on the internet, and that neither of us think that
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: the Muppet Christmas Carol is the best version of Christmas
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Carol or even a particularly good movie. Not to speak
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: for you, Ariel, but but I believe yeah, yeah, because
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, maybe I stuck my neck out
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: on that one.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: No. No, I'm not a fan of the bump at
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Christmas Carol, and most of my friends will stab me
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: for that. But I just back when I really gotten back,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: when I really fell in love with Christmas Carol was
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: when I was doing theater in my local committ Nity
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: theater was doing it every year and it was funny
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: and it was moving, and it was scary, and the
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: people involved with it were wonderful, and there were a
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: lot of things that they wanted to keep true to
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: the book, and I loved that, and so for a
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: long time it actually I actually had a hard time
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: enjoying versions that weren't quite as narratively accurate, and I've
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: grown past that, but I just I feel like the
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: further you stray the the less the less impact the
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: story has, and I just feel like muppy Christmas Carol
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: has very little impact.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: I will say that Gonzo gives direct quotes of the book,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: which is something that most adaptations fail to do, so
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: that's kind of nice that you do get, like more
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: of some of the actual language Dickens used when he
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: wrote the story. But I don't like Michael Caine as Scrooge.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel that he comes across miserly enough,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: like the theme all the miser stuff you get from
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: the reactions of the muppets to Scrooge, but I don't
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: feel like Scrooge quite warrants the reactions he gets, Whereas
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: I think like the Albert Finney Scrooge, which is very
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: campy and it's a musical and not everyone's cup of tea.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: But I feel like he he embodies the miserly Scrooge
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: in a way that I just don't think Michael Caine managed.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: So that was my biggest my biggest issue. Okay, well
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: we got one less.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: I really liked Scrooged, and that was very far from
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: the source material. But I was almost able to look
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: at it as its own separate thing.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was clearly like that was more like
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: inspired by it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't proclaiming itself
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: to be a direct adaptation of a Christmas Carol in fact,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: in fact, it can't be because a Christmas Carol exists
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: within the world of Scrooge, right, so like it can't
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: be a direct one because they already have one. All right.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: Our last trailer to talk about is we got teaser
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: for Avatar Seven Havens, which I didn't even know was
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: going to be a thing. This is the third in
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: the Airbender universe, not the Blue People universe. It's the
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: third series in that. So this is the sequel to
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: the Legend of Korra series, and it follows a new
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: Avatar and Earth Bender and her twin sister as they
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: are trying to navigate a world that is being torn
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: apart by natural and spiritual disasters, and they're inhabiting a
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: world where the Avatar is viewed as a dangerous entity
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: that needs to be stopped rather than as a hero.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks cute.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: See yeah, I think it looks like you know, it'll
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: be a fitting successor to the other Avatar properties. Its
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: originally was slated for twenty twenty seven, and now it's
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: coming out on October ninth, so it's moved up like
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: a whole year, which is unheard of for animated projects.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: There's gonna air for two seasons, and each season is
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: gonna have thirteen episodes.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: Good too, to have like a beginning, middle, and an
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: end in mind already so that you're not like just
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: leaving things open ended.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I like that they at the same time that
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: they're giving you a more adult Airbender, they're also giving
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: you one that can appeal to a new generation of kids.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's really smart. I think it looks charming
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: and fun and exciting. I haven't watched all of any
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: of the series, but the bits that I've watched, I
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: have liked. I know they are less for you.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I need totally cool. I don't think Becca
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: has watched any of Legend of Korra. She was a
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: huge Last Airbender fan. She loved that series, so I'll
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: be curious to get her take on this. She has
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: not as far as I know, she has not seen
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: this yet. I have to get on a phone call
• 2:03:54
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