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The Late Debate | 24 March · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait, welcome to the Late Debates.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm James
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  Speaker 2: Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Danika de Georgio, who I
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  Speaker 2: have to say is always a very positive person. But
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  Speaker 2: tonight you have been buzzing? Is something going on? Just
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  Speaker 2: excited about the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just excited to be in the presence of these
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  Speaker 3: two wonderful men. That's why every night I come on
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  Speaker 3: this show and I think what an honor and a
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  Speaker 3: privilege it is to be with Caleb and James.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just high on life.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't even practice that before the show. That was spontaneous.
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  Speaker 4: Spontaneous.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just always in a good mood when I'm around
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  Speaker 3: you two like that, you know, and it's lovely to say,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to be with our viewers as well.
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  Speaker 1: Caleb, you're good.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not as good as Janika, clearly, but look, I
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  Speaker 5: mean maybe it'll rab off on me.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, right, here's what's coming up tonight. Green Senator
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  Speaker 2: Marine Ferruki defends Muslims who abused the PM during his
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  Speaker 2: visit to La Kember Mosque. She says the PM should
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  Speaker 2: have stayed and legitimized their concerns. The National Trust is
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  Speaker 2: worried that people from non English backgrounds don't feel welcome
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  Speaker 2: in the English countryside, and Denika has promised us a
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  Speaker 2: rendition of the Kinks nineteen seventy Lola. The song is
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  Speaker 2: back in the news after being described as transphobic. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's why she's in such a good mood. But before
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  Speaker 2: we get.
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  Speaker 1: To that, let's start tonight's program with some good news.
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  Speaker 1: Not that you singing is not good names it remains
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  Speaker 1: to be seen. Here's the good news, though.
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  Speaker 2: The Queensland government has taken drastic steps to prevent James
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  Speaker 2: Cook University from changing their name. With statues of the
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  Speaker 2: British Explorer regularly defaced and damaged around the country, it
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  Speaker 2: was only a matter of time before officials at James
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  Speaker 2: Cook Uni looked at changing the institution's name. But the
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  Speaker 2: change won't be happening because as soon as the LNP
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  Speaker 2: government got winned that a name change was being considered,
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  Speaker 2: they took steps to stack the university's leadership council, ensuring
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  Speaker 2: they could block any vote to ditch the name. New
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  Speaker 2: laws to be passed this week will reduce the sixteen
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  Speaker 2: member university Council to twelve members of whom half will
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  Speaker 2: be appointed by the government. Education Minister John Paul Langruk
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  Speaker 2: deserves praise for this. He described James Cook as a
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  Speaker 2: revered Englishman and explorer and said a name change was
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  Speaker 2: quote historical revisionism that won't be happening under his watch. Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: well done, LMP.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, And I mean this was a cop out from
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  Speaker 5: the beginning when it came out, was an exclusive report
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  Speaker 5: from scar News that to reveal this, I should note
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  Speaker 5: in the beginning, and they said that what they were
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  Speaker 5: actually doing was just getting some mob to look at
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  Speaker 5: what we might do if, maybe someday down the line,
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  Speaker 5: we thought about changing our name from Captain James Hook.
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  Speaker 6: We're not actually thinking of doing it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's just contingency planning. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 5: you're not just planning for things that might happen unless
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  Speaker 5: you think there is a chance they might happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm not sitting around planning for what's going
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  Speaker 5: to happen when Danika de Giorgio leaves the program, because
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  Speaker 5: it's never going to happen.
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  Speaker 6: Is it is she is now locked in?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it depends on she's singing later in the world.
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  Speaker 5: Right, No, perhaps I should have been doing that contingency
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  Speaker 5: paper exactly. You do contingency planning for things that are
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  Speaker 5: a live possibility. So clearly what they were thinking was, well,
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  Speaker 5: you know, maybe at some point we will change our
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  Speaker 5: name from James Cook. And look, I know I say
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  Speaker 5: this every single time Captain Cook comes up, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to say it again just for those in the
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  Speaker 5: back who for some reason have not yet picked up
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  Speaker 5: on it. Captain Cook was not on the first fleet.
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  Speaker 5: Captain Cook did not colonize this country. In fact, he
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  Speaker 5: was killed nine years before the first fleet rocked up
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  Speaker 5: in Hawaii.
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  Speaker 6: The first one is in rock up to Hawaii. He
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  Speaker 6: was killed in Hawaii.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, these people are just so historically illiterate that
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  Speaker 5: they think that Captain Cook was actually involved in anything
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  Speaker 5: that happened on this land. He mapped and explored the joint,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't seem a single person to live here. He
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  Speaker 5: didn't set up a colony, He had nothing to do
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  Speaker 5: with it. He was dead to decade before any of
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  Speaker 5: that went on. He is not the evil man you
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  Speaker 5: think he is. But I suppose it's just because he's
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  Speaker 5: got some links to the early days of colonialism before
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  Speaker 5: it had even happened in this country.
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  Speaker 6: It's evil, it must go.
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  Speaker 5: Thank god, there's at least one government in this country
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  Speaker 5: that's willing to stand up and say we must protect it,
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  Speaker 5: protect our history.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking, can you imagine if this was
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  Speaker 3: in Victoria, just sint to Alan would have been all
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  Speaker 3: for the name change. It would have been changed to
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  Speaker 3: something absolutely obscure that not one person could ever pronounce
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  Speaker 3: some ridiculous names. So, thank goodness, finally common sense prevails
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  Speaker 3: over in Queensland.
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  Speaker 4: I am so sick to death of the left.
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  Speaker 3: And woke institutions trying to rewrite Australia's history. It's this
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  Speaker 3: progressive left that are slowly infiltrating and ultimately seeking to
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  Speaker 3: tear down, you know, the values and traditions of the
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  Speaker 3: Australia that once was.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is why we actually need to start standing
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  Speaker 4: up for.
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  Speaker 3: Our values, standing up for who we are as Australians.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually think that culture wars have a big
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  Speaker 3: part in this, in this brainwashing by the left to think, no,
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  Speaker 3: like anybody that's got to do with our history, they're bad.
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  Speaker 3: White people are so evil, bring down the colony, all
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  Speaker 3: that absolute pilava that they go on about. And these
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  Speaker 3: are why the culture wars matter that we see time
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  Speaker 3: and time again, the same old age old debates, the
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  Speaker 3: brainwashing in the classrooms, the woke universities, and it is
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  Speaker 3: time for us to say no, we are proud of
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  Speaker 3: this country. We're proud of our history. And if you
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  Speaker 3: don't like it, get out and.
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  Speaker 2: You lose every fight that you don't participate in, right,
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  Speaker 2: And that's been the problem is we've had conservative governments
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  Speaker 2: who winge and complain, but never use the power they've
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  Speaker 2: been given at an election to actually win in the
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  Speaker 2: culture wars. So the LNP have used their power, they've
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  Speaker 2: stacked the board to prevent any name change. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we want when we elect conservative governments, will them to
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  Speaker 2: actually use the power to conserve what we love about
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  Speaker 2: our country. Labor use the power when they get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's about time conservatives used it.
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  Speaker 5: Good on the LMP and all this business about oh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the culture wars. They don't win elections and
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  Speaker 5: it's a distraction from the things people actually care about. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: it is true that the number three issues in this
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  Speaker 5: country a cost of living.
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  Speaker 6: Cost of living and cost of living.
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  Speaker 5: But the reality is that unless you have a culture,
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  Speaker 5: you don't have a country at all.
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  Speaker 6: You just have a group of people.
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  Speaker 5: In the case of Australia living on an island. Remember
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  Speaker 5: when sekir Stama talked last year about the UK turning
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  Speaker 5: into an island of strange Yes, this is what happens
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  Speaker 5: when you don't defend your culture. You have to defend
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  Speaker 5: and maintain a culture in order to be a country,
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  Speaker 5: and it is important and people do care about it.
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  Speaker 5: While we're talking about the culture wars, they've taken a bit.
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  Speaker 6: Of an extreme turn over at the Senate.
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  Speaker 5: Now, before I show you that, let's go back in
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  Speaker 5: time a little bit to last week when the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister went to visit lakember Mosque in Sydney for Aid,
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  Speaker 5: which is the celebration at the end of Ramadan, and
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  Speaker 5: he was of course confronted by an angry mob. Now
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  Speaker 5: in the close up vision, the Prime Minister looked rather
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  Speaker 5: scared and concerned by what was going on. And to
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  Speaker 5: be honest, I don't blame him when you've got a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of men yelling at you that you're a genocide
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  Speaker 5: supporter and you're somehow responsible for the deaths of billions
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  Speaker 5: of people. How he had anything to do with that,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not entirely sure. And they're angry and seem like
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  Speaker 5: they could get violent. Of course you would be scared,
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  Speaker 5: and you would be escorted out of there. As the
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister, you should be able to go wherever the
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  Speaker 5: hell you want in this country and be treated with respect. Now,
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  Speaker 5: after that, the Prime Minister sort of downplayed what had happened.
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  Speaker 7: There were thirty thousand people plus at Lakember this morning. Overwhelmingly,
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  Speaker 7: the reception was incredibly positive.
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  Speaker 1: I walked through the.
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  Speaker 7: Crowd to the mosque and not a single person heckled.
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  Speaker 7: There were a couple of hecklers inside. They were dealt with.
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  Speaker 7: Contrary to what's been suggested, no one has rushed out.
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  Speaker 6: We just sat there. It was dealt with. Ah, we
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  Speaker 6: just sat there. It was dealt with.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Look, I think we can all see that that
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  Speaker 5: did not happen. Someone else who saw that that did
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  Speaker 5: not happen was Marine FAROOKI now Marine Ferroki Green Senator.
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  Speaker 5: Of course she has taken this to the extreme. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: she has done the meme. Yes, she has done the meme.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone I don't like is a member of the far right.
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  Speaker 5: I think we have that meme to show you here.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe not, we'll show you after the clip. Here is
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  Speaker 5: Marine Ferruki now here it is. This is she's done
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  Speaker 5: the meme.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone I don't like is the far right.
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  Speaker 5: I want to congratulate the Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi tonight
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  Speaker 5: on now becoming a member of the far right. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: you and me, elbow, buddy, we're in the same group together,
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  Speaker 5: so says Marine Ferruki.
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  Speaker 8: Muslims understandably express their frustration and anger at the Libor
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  Speaker 8: government's complicity and inaction on Israel's genocide in Gaza. Instead
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  Speaker 8: of acknowledging these sentiments, the Prime Minister left the mosque
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  Speaker 8: in a rush, ignored community criticism, and misled the media
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  Speaker 8: about why people were confronting him. The Prime Minister indulged
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  Speaker 8: in far right talking points.
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  Speaker 5: He indulged in far right talking points.
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  Speaker 6: Now, yes, she is right.
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  Speaker 5: That he mislid the media after the event about what
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  Speaker 5: actually happened. Yes, they were quite angry with him, and
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  Speaker 5: yes he was moved out of the place. But hang
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  Speaker 5: on a minute, Marine Ferouki is suggesting that the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister should have just sat there and taken it and
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  Speaker 5: that I don't know, he should have let the baying mob.
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  Speaker 6: Just go at him.
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  Speaker 5: And by daring to say that, you know there was
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  Speaker 5: something wrong with all of that, that he was indulging
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  Speaker 5: in far right talking points. Give it a spell.
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  Speaker 3: I mean seriously, his security were literally moving him on
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  Speaker 3: because he was practically being chased out of a mosque.
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  Speaker 3: And then they were yelling at him, you know, you're
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  Speaker 3: a Putra dog, saying a lah wakba. What do they
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  Speaker 3: want him to just continue his virtue signaling sitting on
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  Speaker 3: the floor, cross legged without his shoes on. I mean, seriously,
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  Speaker 3: Marine Ferouki, what exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Is she doing in the Senate? Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's not like she represents Australia. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: she represents our views. In fact, I think she is
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  Speaker 3: the complete opposite. She shouldn't be there in the first place.
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  Speaker 3: But I just love it how the left twist thing
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  Speaker 3: are everything around. So now she's actually a member of
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  Speaker 3: the left, is calling a fellow member of the left
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  Speaker 3: part of the right wing extremism. I mean, can you
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  Speaker 3: actually believe the turn of events? Look again, Marine Ferouki
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  Speaker 3: should hang her head in shame once again. I think
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  Speaker 3: she is a disgrace to Australia. She's an embarrassment to
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  Speaker 3: this country. And I'm not standing up for the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister because he shouldn't have been at that mosque in
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  Speaker 3: the first place. But while on Earth would he stay
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  Speaker 3: sitting there when they were literally attacking him? It got
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  Speaker 3: violent that these people had to be physically removed from
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  Speaker 3: the mosque.
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  Speaker 4: Why would he just sit there?
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree with everything you say about Marine Ferruki.
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  Speaker 2: The interesting thing is I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: forget she's not just a Green senator. She's the deputy
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  Speaker 2: leader of the Greens, so she's not just one of many.
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  Speaker 2: She's part of the leadership team. She said that the
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  Speaker 2: Muslims in that mosque, not all of them, but a
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  Speaker 2: significant number were understand expressing their frustration.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that.
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  Speaker 2: And we all get frustrated with the Prime Minister, right,
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  Speaker 2: but calling him a putrid dog and the other abuse
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  Speaker 2: that he received is hardly expressing your frustration in an
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  Speaker 2: understandable way, especially to the Prime Minister. She talked about
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  Speaker 2: Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza. There's no such thing, and
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  Speaker 2: as you say, I'm not sure you could expect the.
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister to sit there.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, we'd be sitting here criticizing his security detail
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  Speaker 2: if he sat there and wasn't removed from what could
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  Speaker 2: have become a very ugly scene.
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  Speaker 1: So another great.
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  Speaker 2: Contribution to the dialogue in this country by the Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Leader of the Green.
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  Speaker 3: But had this even been at any sort of an
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  Speaker 3: event where the Prime Minister was being verbaled at in
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  Speaker 3: such a way, in such a very strong way, his
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  Speaker 3: security detail would have whisked him away anyway. If it
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  Speaker 3: happened at a church, he would have been whisked away.
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  Speaker 3: So this is not just pertaining to a mosque. It
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  Speaker 3: would have happened anywhere, because the Prime Minister travels with
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  Speaker 3: huge security. I mean, I've been to many of the
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister's press conferences. People don't realize just how many
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  Speaker 3: security officers are around him at all times.
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  Speaker 5: On what basis can you say that the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 5: has been indulging in far right talking point? If the
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister has been indulging in far right talking points,
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  Speaker 5: what sort of a talking point is that the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister is responsible for the deaths of millions of Muslims.
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  Speaker 5: What category do we think that one fits into like
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  Speaker 5: whatever marine Faruki is on. I want some of it
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  Speaker 5: because that's like next level delusion.
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  Speaker 2: She appears to be saying right that these Muslim men
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  Speaker 2: wanted elbow out of the mosque and he's a racist
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  Speaker 2: for leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, that doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 4: How yeah, you leave Seriously.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm so done with the Greens. The Greens have
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  Speaker 3: proven themselves to be an absolute disgrace, particularly since October seven,
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  Speaker 3: and we've seen the rise of anti Israel propaganda. It's
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  Speaker 3: just been appalling, which brings me to my next topic. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the arts sector has really been a breeding ground itself
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  Speaker 3: for anti Semitism, for anti Israel artwork. And it's not
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  Speaker 3: just in the art sector, it's other areas as well.
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  Speaker 4: But I want to show you this.
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  Speaker 3: This is an art exhibition in Kent Over in the
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  Speaker 3: UK has allegedly exhibited art and I say that in
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  Speaker 3: inverted commas showing Jewish people eating babies with blood dripping
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  Speaker 3: from their sharpened teeth as you can see there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it is quite disturbing.
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  Speaker 3: It was at the Drawings Against Genocide exhibition, which is
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  Speaker 3: an independent gallery featuring featuring pictures critics claimed were containing
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitic tropes. Now, if that wasn't appalling enough, that
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  Speaker 3: image wasn't appalling enough. Kent Police actually investigated this and
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  Speaker 3: they were trying to figure out whether or not this
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  Speaker 3: veers into abuse and anti Semitism, and they have concluded no.
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  Speaker 3: They said that this simply doesn't meet the threshold to
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  Speaker 3: become a hate or abuse or or anti Semitism in general,
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  Speaker 3: which is absolutely baffling to me. But here is a
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  Speaker 3: statement released by Kent Police. They say the artwork is
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  Speaker 3: critical of the Israeli state and its actions, but does
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  Speaker 3: not include content that is directly abusive or insulting toward
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  Speaker 3: Jewish people as a group. There is also no indication
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  Speaker 3: of an intent by the artist to stir up racial
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  Speaker 3: or religious hatred, which is a specific requirement within the legislation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, really, when you actually go to this exhibition,
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  Speaker 3: there was a sign saying quote anti Semitic art exhibition
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  Speaker 3: this way, So that sets up the theme for this
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  Speaker 3: whole facade in general. I mean, I personally find it
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  Speaker 3: very offensive to see and I'm not Jewish, but I
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  Speaker 3: find it offensive to see an image of Jews eating babies.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is violent. I think it is absolutely horrific.
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  Speaker 3: And the other problem is over in the UK and
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  Speaker 3: this has happened in ken they've just recently changed the
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  Speaker 3: definition of Islamophobia to anti Muslim hate.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, imagine if the shoe was on the other foot.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, imagine if this was a picture of a Muslim
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  Speaker 3: eating a child. Can you imagine that the police would
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  Speaker 3: have investigated this absolutely immediately. And you guys will remember
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  Speaker 3: we actually covered a story last week where hate crimes
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  Speaker 3: against Muslims are twice as likely to be prosecuted as
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  Speaker 3: compared to Jews. So if this happened to a Muslim,
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  Speaker 3: I have no doubt that it would have been investigated.
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  Speaker 3: But once again, Jews are targeted because they're Jews.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't understand how this is not incitement, And
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  Speaker 2: if it doesn't meet the threshold of incitement, then politicians
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  Speaker 2: should rewrite the laws so that stuff like this is prosecutable.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you've got Jewish schools, synagogues, other Jewish facilities
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  Speaker 2: under armed guard right throughout Europe, we all know what
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  Speaker 2: the problem is. And then you allow tropes like this
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  Speaker 2: to be put on public display, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: is going to happen? We don't need to think about it,
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  Speaker 2: because just four days after that gallery exhibited those images.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying those images deliberately led to was
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  Speaker 2: it for Jewish ambulances being set on fire. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying there's a direct connection between that. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: we all know Jews are under threat right throughout Europe.
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  Speaker 2: So when you have images of Jews eating babies and
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  Speaker 2: so forth and so on, how is that not incitement
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  Speaker 2: in the current environment for police to say nothing to
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  Speaker 2: see here beggars belief.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it is incitement.
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  Speaker 5: And I'll preface this by saying that those images are repugnant.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: It's not art, quote unquote art.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: They're pretty bloody, ordinary drawings by some wackos who have
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: some very strange beliefs. Clearly hatred for Jews or Jewish
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: people or the Israel state. The State of Israel clearly
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: exists within their minds and what they are producing.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: But it doesn't necessarily mean.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: That it's the job of the law to prevent people
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: from feeling that way or expressing those beliefs. And yes,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: there is a problem with antisemitism in the UK, as
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: there's a problem with antisemitism in Australia and many other
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: parts of the world at the moment. But I don't
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: think you can legislate that away. You can't just say well,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: the law now says you can't do that, Therefore anti
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: semitism is fixed. In fact, I think it makes the
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: problem worse. I would much rather people like this were
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: shown to the public so we know who they are,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: we know what they think, because simply telling them that
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: you can't draw that ut and you can't display it,
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: and you can't be an antisemit ain't going to change
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: a thing.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's the job.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Of it, Caleb.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: In this current environment right where Jews are already on edge.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Jews are threatened.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Day day out. They are scared for their lives.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: We've seen what happens when people chant globalize the INTERFATA,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: for example. It spurs people on into thinking that antisemitism
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: is normalized. I mean, we've seen it in Australia and
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: that is a sad reality that anti Semitism has become
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: the norm. And so by people putting out this sort
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: of artwork, people go, oh, well it's normal, then anti
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you know, anti Semitic tropes are normal. We can criticize
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Jews in that way. I mean, this is the most
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: horrific way to criticize Jews. That is my concern that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: it spurs people onto contemning.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Can I just said to that criticism of Jews typically
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: leads to violence against Jews, and we can talk about
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: why that is or is not so with other groups.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to the.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Jewish community, criticism and demonization of them typically leads to violence.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: That's the problem, and that's why I think.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: This is especially that you say is to outlaw offensive
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: language and artwork.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: As pertaining to the Jewish community.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: And specifically Elish community.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I mean they had a sign saying anti Semitic artwork
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: this way. You should not be allowed to do that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: That is clearing like men as a hatred of Jews
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that typically leads to.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: As the former Attorney General of this country, George Brandis
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: once said, when dealing with the racial discrimination in Australia,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: people have the right to be biggots, and I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: think we can start legislating that away and think that
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: it works. It's I understand that there is a big
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: problem with anti Semitism and we want to do something
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: about that, but we start with one thing and then
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: one day we end up with another. No.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But the thing is is what is the threshold? And
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: if the threshold starts going over into incitement, then I
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: think that then it becomes hate, and then it becomes
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: a problem. And I think that this breaches that. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: think this goes over into insight.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And we've got a group of people who are ready
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: willing and able to be incited.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing with anti Semitism.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: There is a ready crowd willing to lap this stuff
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: up and be inspired to do something violent.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: But then, but then, what isn't incitement?
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: So if a crew drawing that could have been done
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: by a ten year old, by the looks of it,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: of a particular Jewish man, he's one of the owner
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: of so bees eating a baby is considered incitement to violence.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: There's nothing written in that art.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Work that says go and kill a Jew, right, No,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: But what you are insinuating is that it puts Jews,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: or puts a certain Jew in such a bad light
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: that it might encourage people to go and do something. Yes,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: So how do we then decide what actually is incitement?
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Who is to decide at what level. Drawing or something
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: else becomes incitement if there is nothing specifically in.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: It that encourages you to be filled.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Because what we're now supposing is that someone might see
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: that and think, ooh, that makes me not like Jews
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: enough to go and kill them.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: How do we actually define that in law?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean the government don't have any difficulty defining
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it as incitement when it comes to anything to do
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: with the Islamic faith and Muhammed.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I mean we talk hang on, No one's been convicted
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: of drawing.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: No, there haven't been.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But the government we talked about it was that the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: other week has given instruction to schools throughout northern England
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to change your curriculum.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Yes, we don't want the trouble. I wholeheartedly agree on
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: the nothing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: To see here with this anti smit.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I wholeheartedly agree on the double standard. There should be
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: no double standard. I mean, I suppose my view in
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: terms of free speeches is a bit more liberal in
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: that I think it should.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Apply to everyone.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: But I think it's really hard to legislate that those
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: sorts of things are incitement.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: I worry about the roads that they could lead.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Us down as repugnant as I find the content of
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: what we have had.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I just think in the current environment, when Jews are
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: already under threat. I mean, look what happened here in Australia,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the murders of allegedly of fifteen people at Bondi right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: and all it took was festering, festering, festering. Where the
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: art sector in particular has been a big part of this.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: They've been an absolute disgrace over the last two and
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a half years and then suddenly it becomes the norm
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and then look what happens that. That is my only
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: concern with these sorts of images, that it just pushes
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: someone who already hates Jews to their core and go,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: that's it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: That's it. That's my concern.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I want to talk from about SBS News last night,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in particular the it was last night, the twenty third.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Of March twenty second.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: What it's ten years since a shocking terror attack in
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Brussels that resulted in thirty two dead and three hundred injured.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Isis set off bombs in an airport and in a
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: train station and it was one of the most shocking
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: attacks that Europe has seen by Islamic jihadi's. Here's a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: portion of the SBS report, and as you watch, just
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: notice there's a particular reference completely absent. See if you
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: can guess what it is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Belgium has commemorated the tenth anniversary of terrorist attacks that
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: killed thirty two people and wounded hundreds. Ceremonies were held
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: in the Brussels airport and Metro sites at the site
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: of the coordinated bombings. The Belgian Prime Minister was joined
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: by the country's king and Queen and EU representatives in
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: honoring the victims. Six men were sentenced for the bombings
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Now throughout the entire report, there's not one mention of Islam,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Islamic extremism, or even Islamic state who claimed responsibility for
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: the bombings. In fact, if you didn't know, you would
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have to go to Google to look up what actually happened.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It's called a terror event, but those responsible are never named.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Is that a strange oversight? Is it an oversight or
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is it deliberate?
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Six men were convicted, Jax's men, No other pertinent dyscotians, no.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Other purpose climate activists.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, for goodness, I refuse to believe that there's
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: any reason that that was done other than deliberate omission,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: because it is just such an important detail that you
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: could not ignore the fact that that was what drove
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: the attack in Brussels unless you just deliberately did not
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: want to put it in there. The SBS, of course,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: is a public broadcaster and its edict is to produce
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: content for diverse, multicultural communities in this country. But that
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean that they ought to be lied to. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: it's just a basic fact. If you were writing a
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: news report.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: We've all worked as journalists in our careers. You're writing a.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: News report, you include the pertinent facts, and the fact
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: that it was an ISLAMUS terror attack is a rather
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: pertinent fact. I fail to believe that that was not
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: left out deliberately.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, the gas lighting is just breathtaking. Do they
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: really think we're all that stupid? For goodness sake? Because
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're treating us all as mugs.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: But can we be surprised?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: You might remember after BONDI, it took the Prime Minister
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: about twenty one days to even mutter the very words
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: radical Islam. Why is it that the left don't want
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: to touch it? Why is it so difficult for them
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: to even talk about it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: That's the question.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of possibilities.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: One, they're scared of a backlash. Charlie Hebdo good point,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: class example.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Second possibility is they don't want to stigmatize all Muslims,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: so therefore we don't mention any Muslims. Of course, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: concern about stigmatization never applies to say, Catholics. The third
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: possibility is that SBS have a partnership with El Jazeera.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that's a good point, but you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: know what, unless we actually start having these conversations, nothing
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: is ever going to change. And we need to have
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: this conversation because a threat in this country is actually
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: very real as well. It's not just an overseas threat.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: We've seen what happened a couple of months ago in Bondi.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: We need to start having these conversations about radical Islam
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: because it's happening right now and the face of the
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: West is changing pretty rapidly.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So SBS pull your head in.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And that's one of the problems, right They give the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: impression that, you know, bombs going off and people being
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: killed and hundreds wounded is just one of those things
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: that happens in the West from time to time.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: What can you do?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, because we should take action, because we're
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: talking about people safety, and.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: We should admit what the problem is.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Because if you can't admit an identify a problem, you
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: can't fix it correct. It is just such a fundamental issue.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I can't believe we even have to talk about it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Let's go over to the.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: United Kingdom where they are grappling with the big issues
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: at the moment, including it would seem that minorities do
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: not feel comfortable in the countryside.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, apparently it's an awful, awful part of the world. I
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: mean they don't know what to do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: They don't even know what sort of clothes they would
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: have to wear ethnic minorities if they were adventure were
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: adventure into the country side.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I mean you might be thinking, I mean, these people stupid,
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: They got Google.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Right, I mean, what do what do I wear in
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: the countryside?
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Look, the answer is probably whatever the hell you want
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: to wear.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's any rule that you must put
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: on your tweed and your hunting shooting jagger and whatever
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: it is if you want to go into the English countryside.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: But maybe maybe this is the problem.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Listen to the head of the National Trust in the
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: UK who says they've done a survey ethnic minorities. They
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: don't like the countryside, they don't feel comfortable there, they
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: don't know what the dressing here it is.
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: So there's been lots and lots of research with people
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: from ethnic backgrounds asking them how do they feel about
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: the countryside? Do they feel it's a place for them?
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: And the research comes back really clearly to say they don't.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: Why do we think that is? There's a whole raft
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: of reasons, everything from it's not culturally something that they
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: necessarily feel as if it's part of what they do,
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: or when they go there, they don't necessarily know what
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: am I meant to wear?
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: What high do I behave? What's the countryside called? I've
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: never heard of it. So there's loads of different reasons
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: why they don't feel all the time confident.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Frankly, I couldn't give a Ratz toss bag. Just just
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: work it out.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It ain't hard.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Now this is part of a broader push at the moment.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Apparently the English countryside is too white and so they
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: have to do more to get ethnic minorities to not
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: only go and visit, but to go and live there
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: as well. The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: just last month put out a report saying that the
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: countryside was too white, and they had a number of
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: suggestions for what they might do to fix that, including
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: that they need to encourage Muslims to move out to
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: the countryside, they need to include other languages in all
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: of their communications, and also force people to put their
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: dogs on leashes because Muslims don't particularly like dogs. They said,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, for goodness sake, what is going on over
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: in that country?
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: So all the big issues we've got to worry about.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: They don't like the country.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So the National Trust, who many people donate toise there
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: are states to the help fund. They're doing surveys asking
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and Caleb, they're not ethnic minorities. They're called the Global Yes,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: they didn't want to create an ethnic minority because even
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that is discriminatory, and they're asking them do you feel
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: comfortable in the English countryside? Let me ask you a question, Caleb,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: because I'm curious. Do you feel the African Savannah is
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: too black?
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: Funnally enough? I don't.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I've got more. Do you feel that the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Arabian desert is too olive?
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: You should be more white people in there.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's stupid, right, it's just beggars belief
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: that they ask such ridiculous questions and that they get
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: so much funding to do this.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I mean they sound like a bunch of wet blankets,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: don't they. I love that that that woman said that
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: they don't know what the country side code is?
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: What is the country side code? Have we missed something? Well?
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Is there a code for the country.
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: Caleb said Tweed, I don't know, but you wouldn't you
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: if it's like if you were traveling, if you're on
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: a holiday overseas, right, you do some planning before you
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: go to work out what the customs are and what.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: Are people wear and what's appropriate. It's not hard to do.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, are you telling me that you know Muslims
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: who live in London or any other ethnic minority for
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: that matter, because of course Muslims is not an ethnic minority,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: the religious one. But but what they don't know how
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: to get onto Google and just see how.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but you don't go and check it out.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: You don't need to be dressed for something. Just just
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: go into the country. Don't have a good time for
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: windness sake, It's not that scary. It's not a big
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: scary place. In fact, the country side is actually quite lovely.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Got the poor British folk in the country. They must
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: be tearing their hair out right.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Now so that they're going to get a Bookina fesso
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: or something.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Seriously, I want to go to snow, but what do.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: You What is one way to the snow? For goodness, sag,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: James and a T shirt. All right, look, let's move
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: on now.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Girls will be boys and boys will be girls.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world. Except
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: for Lola, l Ola, Lola.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, that is one of the famous lines from The
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Kings nineteen seventies hit Lola. As you might know, but
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: you know you might The background to this song don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: know if you do. It's about and an experienced man
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: who meets a woman at a bar in Soho out
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: in London. She gives him his first kiss. One thing
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: leads to another. She says, I'm going to make you
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: a man.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: Oh boy.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: That's when they encounter a little bit of trouble when
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he realizes that there's a bit of a downstairs mix up.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Lola is not a woman, Lola is actually a man.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Oh dear, take it away, Ray Davies, Well, I'm dumb, but.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: I can't understand why she was a world with tough.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Blad for man. Well, you know, surprise to.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Nobody, the left are now offended by the song Lola
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: pertaining actually to a guy called Moby. He's a singer
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: you probably never heard of. Moby had a couple of hits,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: apparently in early two thousands. But he's taken offense to this.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Haven't listened to what he told the Guardian. He said,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: and I quote, he said, Lola by the Kinks came
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: up on a Spotify playlist and I thought the lyrics
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: were gross and transphobic. I like their early music, but
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I was really taken aback at how unevolved the lyrics are.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, get a grip mate.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: King's guitarist Dave Davies hit back saying, and I quote,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: who the f is Moby? He went on to say,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I am highly insulted that Moby would accuse my brother
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: of being unevolved or transphobic in any way. I don't
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: want to show the guy up, but Moby should be
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: careful what he says now. Of course, Ray Davies was
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: the singer songwriter of The Kings, but I mean, please,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: are we now going after iconic hits? Lola was actually
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: based on a true story. I remember a story that
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: one of the brothers said that they wrote it about
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: their manager who spent a night with a trans person
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: in Paris, because I didn't know at.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: The time that they were a trans person.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: But when you think back to the culture of the seventies,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: for goodness sake, Studio fifty four, it was all about
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: the gay culture.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: Nobody cared.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: So Moby shut up and get a grip please Seriously.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Mothed, what the hell's Moby Dick doing compati about this?
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: And I thought, well, maybe that's pertinent to give it
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: the dick bit, but I mean, come on, get over it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: The song was recorded in nineteen seven, correct, and here's
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: some bloke in twenty twenty six saying oh jeerz oh.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: The lyrics were really unevolved. Please, It's like they put
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: the warning now on like the.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Germans episode of Faulty Towers, because you know, Basil Faulty
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: does the funny war yes, and says you know, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: mentioned the wall once and I got it like, for
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: goodness sake, this stuff was done fifty sixty years ago,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: and here we are talking about it now as though
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: it's the same as today.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: Get over it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So the question needs to be asked, could you have
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: actually been transphobic fifty years ago? Because people didn't talk
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: about transgenderism. They talked about transvestites, they talked about cross dresses,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: but they didn't talk about transgender So how can you
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: be transphobic when transgender wasn't a thing?
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: No?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Well, as it says, well, I'm not the world's most
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: masculine man, but I know what I am, and I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: glad I'm a man.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: And with Lakla, there we go.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I did a little chin.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, I gave people a really big wind
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: up at stop of the show.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: You need more than that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I left home just a week before, but I
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: never ever kissed a woman before.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: There we go. How's that not bad?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Great stuff to get, very very good.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: All right, We're going to go to a break while
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Denika practices her singing, and we come back. We'll look
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: at what's making headlines tomorrow, including some of the options
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the government is considering for ways to save fuel.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: That's coming up in just a second.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, welcome back to the program before we get to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's headlines. Breaking news this evening, Married at First Sight
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: dating coach Mel Shilling has died age fifty four after
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: a battle with cancer. She suffered from a brain tumor,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and her family announced her death on social media. At
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: this evening, her husband Gareth said she passed away peacefully today,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: surrounded by love. She's been on Married at First Site
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I think since twenty sixteen and was a very popular
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: figure on that program.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Indeed, one that you've been known to watch. James, the person.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Watched the first series can they wanted to apply?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I think at one point you didn't watch the first
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: you were watching it when we started this program three
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: and a half odd years.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: It was my first series, calib but.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: I must admit I have watched it at times as well.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: It's the most popular program in the country and it's
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: hard to believe that she was as sick as she
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: was if you've seen any of the program this year,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: because she actually looked alright on air. I know they
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: filmed it well in advance, but she'd only seed a
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago that the cancer had spread into
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: her brain, started in a colon, then they found it
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: in her lungs, and now it moved on to her brain,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and basically a week on she has now died. But
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: apparently in her final moments had beckoned to her husband
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: over and he thought that she had lost the ability
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: to speak by this point because of the cancer infecting
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: her brain, and she managed to get some final words
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: out to him and their daughter. So it's always sad
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: in these.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I always wondered how she had such incredible
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: patients on that show, because I mean, the contestants aren't
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: exactly great, are they, And I just always thought she
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: just handled herself with such grace.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: So it is very sad news.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to tomorrow's headlines. We'll start
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: with the Daily Telegraph, and of course the big news
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: in this country continues to be the petrol crisis. Forty
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: dollars petrol cap reads the headline in tomorrow's Telly. Petrol
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: pumps could automatically cut out when motorists by as little
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: as forty dollars. That's about sixteen liters worth of fuel
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: under regulated rationing measures in the National Fuel Emergency Response Manual.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: The playbook deals how the federal government could respond to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the global oil shock, including by allowing high prices to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: curb consumption, warning businesses to harve usage, and by telling
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: motorists to turn off their cars air con.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Well, they wouldn't have a lot of cars that they
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: wouldn't have econ anyway. They'd be driving around in land
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: cruisers with the window down like we used to do it, right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, for goodness sake, sixteen liters at a time.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: And that just means you've got to go to the
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: petrol station more often. It doesn't actually stop you buying
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: or fuel. Just means you've got to actually go and
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: buy it in shorter intervals, which I don't quite understand.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: There's another story in the Telly Tomorrow as well, Gina
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: ryan Hart saying that the government should cut the excise
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: because petrol, diesel, etc. Is an essential service. We need it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: It's too expensive. You've got to do something about it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, really, is this the best they can do?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I know it's ridiculous, isn't it? But I love it
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: how we've just had weeks of no, there's no problems.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Bowen's been saying to everything is okay. Now, don't panic,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: please don't panic. Next minute there could be a forty
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: dollars petrol cap for goodness sake, but it's your fault,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: so therefore you need to turn down your air conditioner.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Don't use it. I mean, give me a break. Is
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: this seriously where we've gone? And again poor planning from governments,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: absolutely shocking planning.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just shocked that they would use the high price
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: as a way of conserving fuel. So we won't cut
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: the fuel excise. We'll let fuel go over three dollars
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: a liter, and who knows how much higher will allow that,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: so that people won't be able to afford fuel, and
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that way we won't have a shortlage.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: It's economically, it does make sense, but it's just pretty
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: bloody awfully, it sure is. And this business about the
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: air con don't believe that they wouldn't come out and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: tell you that. In fact, if you've got one of
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: the new cars, there's probably some way it can be
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: remotely controlled, because of course that's what Queensland's been doing
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: with people's air conditioners up there.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: If you can be hard to the smart that's right.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: They will at times where they have a mismatch in
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: the demand for energy what they've got to supply, they
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: will change the thermostat on people's eck.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Wait, so imagine if China invades Taiwan, right, and so
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: we are short of fuel, China will turn all the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: ev er cons on.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I mean it works the other way, all right.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: You know what, There'll be one person that'll be excited
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: by that, Chris Bowen.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Indeed, indeed day you know, if only they could put
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: a big bubble over the country and we could dere
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: condition that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, never worry about climate James. That's it anyway. On
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: the front of the Canberra Times tomorrow, also on.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: This theme of petrol requests to get a free ride,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Chief Minister Andrew Barr is putting his hand out for
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: federal cash to help make Canberra's buses and trams free
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: as the Iran war.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Sends petrol cost soaring.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Mister Bible right to Prime Minister Anthony Alban easy to
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: seek funding to enable the provision of free public transport
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: for the duration of the fuel supply I should say crisis.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: After pressure from the Canberra Liberals and the Act Greens.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: The letter will also request federal support for fifty cent
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: feares after the crisis has resolved, along with quote an
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: uplift in investment in public and active transport infrastructure, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: will strongly urge mister alban Easy to slash the fuel
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: exercises a temporary cost of living measure. I don't mind
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: that last bit particularly, but isn't it a bit rich
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: to be writing off to the fugital government. Please give
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: us some money to make the Trump public transport free.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Mister Prime, you.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Know he's sounding like zoram, mam damie.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Everything's going to be free, romp, you get a free
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: ride everywhere. I mean, is this really really where we've
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: gotten to now? You know, between the working from home
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: provisions between now you know, let's make this free.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: What's going to be next? Again?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: This a fuel crisis and it's been created by excessive
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: governments who have not planned for the future, and now
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: here we are this is just ridiculous.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I'm all for helping out the consumer, and if the
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: ACT government wasn't running a one point one billion dollar
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: deficit in their budget, they would have some money to
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: help out the people that they represent. But instead, they're
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: going cap in hand into the federal government because they've
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: not managed their own finances.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: No exactly.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the Australian. Their headline is
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: confidence killer. Jim Chalmers has warned that the economic impacts
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: of the Iran war could be as damaging as the
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: COVID pandemic or the global financial crisis, telling business leaders
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: his doomsday predictions of the local impact from the Middle
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: East conflict, release less than a week ago, maybe too conservative,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the Treasurer is warning in a closed door meeting with
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: about one hundred business leaders, comes as consumer confidence hits
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: its lowest point since records began in nineteen seventy three. Look,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: we've been discussing this for the last couple of weeks.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: This is an absolute pot of gold for Jim Charmers,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: because you know, he's been blaming the COVID pandemic, he
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: then went on to blame the Ukraine War, and now
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: suddenly he's going to be blaming Iran for everything. So
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: this is just absolutely perfect timing for him, isn't it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And he's also told business leaders that his forecast because
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: of the war in Iran, inflation could go to five
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: percent he's now saying, I might have got that wrong.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: It may go a bit higher than five percent.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: So he's laying the ground, oh, to blame our economic
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: woes on the Middle East. And as you said, it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: good news for Charmers, bad news for the rest of us.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: How convenient, except, of course, that the RBA said last
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: week that most of this inflation is home grown, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: that is what they are responding to when they're putting
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: up interest rates. Iran, of course, will have some effect,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: but the fact that consumer confidence in the toilet probably
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: has something to do with the fact that we're heading
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: towards an actual recession, which the RBA refused to rule
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: out last week.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: And that ain't because of Iran.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: No, That's what happens when you spend yourself silly, Jim
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Charmers yep, and you and the state governments as well.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Also on the front page Leeder Hanson's one hundred thousand
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: dollars salary increase. Pauline Hanson has received a one hundred
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: k pay increase after Barnaby Joyce's defection officially made One
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Nation a minor party with a populous leader demanding additional
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: staff to meet the surging workload that has come from
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the party's boom as one Nation stands to win as
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: many as four Lower House seats in South Australia. In
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: that election, Senate Hanson met with Anthony Alberizi and Don
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Farrell over the resourcing of her party at a federal
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: level and asked for a doubling of staff. Well that's
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: when you know you're doing pretty well, don't you.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: And for people who think, oh, one hundred thousand dollars
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: pay increase, well she's now earning the same as Larissa
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Water is the leader of the Greens.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: So good for her, I say, And.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Why don't they deserve an increase in staff. I mean
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: she's saying that they should have the same sort of
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: arrangement that the Greens have had under labor governments.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: Why should one nation have been touched?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: All right, it's my turn the Gold Coast bulletin.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I was waiting for one of to jump in, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I've got the Gold Coast Bulletin and this is a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: great story. Councils parking ticket bounty on a four hundred
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and fifty meter street checks mark. The spot reads the
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: headline gold Coast. Any council has plundered millions in parking
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: fines from beach goers on a single Burly street. Data
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: provided to the Bulletin shows tickets worth three million dollars
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: were dished out at Goodwin Terrace in just two years.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: That's more than any other Gold Coast street, despite this
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: one being just four hundred and fifty meters long. Part
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of the reason they were able to do this was
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: because the parking signs originally were paid parking from nine
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: am to seven pm. But they changed the signs from
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: seven am to seven pm. Wow, And it was worth
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: about two million dollars to them.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: That little change speed.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: That's convenient, isn't it. That's just such, that's just that's
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: a rawt that's an absolute raw money grab.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Indeed, all right, we're going to go to a break.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: We'll be back in a moment.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump might be prosecuting a war in Iran,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean he's too busy to visit Graceland
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to pay his respects to Elvis Presley, And in typical
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's style, he imagined that Elvis would quite like
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: his policies and joke that Joe Biden would not be
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: able to do what he can do at Graceland.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And within two or three months we'll have it down
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: to over ninety percent, So you have to be happy.
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: Elvis would be very happy about that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: Everyone loves Elvis.
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: Texas and it shows you Elvis's natural hair color of blond,
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: blond hair, blue eyes. He dyed his hair black because
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: he thought it brought his facial features better out on films.
• 46:16
  Speaker 12: Now Baden couldn't do that.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I love him.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Very unique is the Donald Trump.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I love him.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: You know, the guys out there fighting wars, fighting crime,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: but he's still got time to go to Graceland and
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: pay homage to Elvis Presley.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Only the second ever sitting president to visit Graceland.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Which really I'm surprised. I thought more would have would
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: have taken.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: The venture for an American icon like Elvis asolutely. They
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: sort of make a pilgrimage to Graceland. Give us your
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: best Elvis Janika as a warm.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Full of morning.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: This is utter humiliation.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: They do. I can't deal promised the viewers singing tonight,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: and that's exactly.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: What you get.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: We expect you what you were promised, and I'm here
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: I reinforce those rules. Now you'd be aware that Ursula Vonderline,
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: the top boss at the EU, has been in town
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: this week and today they signed off on a free
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: trade agreement that is between Australia and Europe. But there
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: are a few people who weren't too enthused about this,
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: and they included Senators Ralph Babttan Alex Antik.
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: Are you never Ursula is here from the EU? Ursula?
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: I think she's an EU president or something.
• 47:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: She's always talking about globalism and collectivism and climate change
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: and open borders and things like that. You know she's
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: here now?
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: Do you want to go check it out?
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: No?
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: Not really? What else do we have to do today?
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: From disease through a couple of things? So how fast reckon?
• 47:47
  Speaker 12: That grass is growing? There?
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: You know what there is?
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: There's some pretty awful stuff put out by Australian politicians
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: on social media, just cringe worthy garbage.
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: But that was quite funny. Actually, yeah, more of that please.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: It's Antic is quite a good actor.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a good actual potential, it is. But
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, Ursula can't be that exciting.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Let's be realistic. She's come from the EU, the E
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: or an absolute mess. Why would we want to have
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: her over here. Now, look, I've got to show you
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: this beautiful, beautiful story.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: This is actually really really sweet.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Seven dogs who were stolen in China have managed to
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: escape from their captors who were working at a meat
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: for a dog meat shop.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Actually, which is awful.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: They've managed to escape and look at them. They found
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: their own way home. They made the twenty kilometer.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Journey on foot. Look at them go.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: There was a mixture of Corgy's Golden Retrievers, Labradors, Pecan
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Geese dogs, German shepherd and they just knew how to
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: get home. I mean, so we are not worthy of dogs.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: We are not worthy. They're so smart, they're smarter than
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: all of us.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I just think it's really sweet.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's going a bit fa to say they're
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: smarter than all of us.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: I think they're smart out. I'd prefer to hang out
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: with dogs than they to at the moment.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: There is the tone you had at the top of
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: the show.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: The cloud show.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: This made the clown that the dunce of the school today,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and I'd rather hang out with this capture die.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: I once had a cat that came home after being
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: missing for seventy three days.
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: So it's amazing what animals can do.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Alright, On that note, that's it from us stick Around.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Coming up is The Reader Penney Show.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Good Night,