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Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 08-29-25 Hour 2 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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Speaker 3: we'll shelve that, maybe until next week. But I did
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Speaker 3: want to go off the beaten path a little bit,
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Speaker 3: and I want to ask you something. This is something
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Speaker 3: I did on my show, and I think it guarded
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Speaker 3: a little bit of an intense discussion. But what is
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Speaker 3: life worth? Imagine you're sitting across from me, right We're
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Speaker 3: at a coffeehouse, and we ponder the question that pierces
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Speaker 3: everybody's soul. What is your life actually worth? I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's it worth a certain amount of dollars, possessions and
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Speaker 3: currency and time fleeting seconds, minutes day, you know, what's
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Speaker 3: your life worth? And so let's let's form a provocative analogy.
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Speaker 3: Let's say I offered Let's say I had a billion
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Speaker 3: dollars to offer billion with a bee, and I said,
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Speaker 3: I'd give it to you, but you'd only have one
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Speaker 3: day to live. Would you take that billion dollars? Of course,
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Speaker 3: the answer is likely. The answer is a resolute no.
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Speaker 3: Nobody would trade their life one day for a billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: A single day, no matter how amazing the wealth is,
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Speaker 3: can't compete or compare to the infinite potential possibilities of
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Speaker 3: a life well lived twenty four hours. It's too much
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Speaker 3: to trade for a billion dollars. And some of the
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Speaker 3: great poets have said, you have all the fears of
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Speaker 3: mortals and all the desires of immortals. So a billion
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Speaker 3: dollars for a single day, it would just be a
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Speaker 3: cruel jest when the test is actually time, that's the
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Speaker 3: true measure of wealth. But one day that's not really fair,
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Speaker 3: right one day? What if I were to ask the
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Speaker 3: same question, but instead of a day, I offered you
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Speaker 3: thirty days to live. You got a billion dollars for
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Speaker 3: a thirty day trade, would you take that thirty days
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Speaker 3: one month, thirty sunrises, laughter moments, maybe some quiet reflection,
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Speaker 3: enough time to have some amazing meals, hang out with
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Speaker 3: the loved ones, walk through the forest or on the beat, maybe.
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Speaker 1: Lose yourself in a book. Thirty days versus.
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Speaker 2: One billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: The answer, of course, is still no.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: Still know, a month, though precious, is too brief the
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Speaker 3: trade from your money. The weight of each moment grows
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Speaker 3: heavier when you know they're numbered, So it would be
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Speaker 3: tortures the trade of billion dollars for thirty days. Let's
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Speaker 3: say I bargain even further. What if I gave you
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Speaker 3: a billion dollars for a year. Do you start to
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Speaker 3: think about that?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 3: A year holds seasons, holidays, personal growth, enough time to
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Speaker 3: try something new, maybe men to broken relationship, chase a
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Speaker 3: dream for three hundred and sixty five days. But my
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Speaker 3: guess is you probably wouldn't be willing to trade your
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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five day year for a billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: It's just not worth it. A billion dollars might buy
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Speaker 3: you those amazing external comforts, but only time can grant
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Speaker 3: you inner strength. Right, So a year feels like too
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Speaker 3: steep a price? What if I gave you ten years
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Speaker 3: for five billion dollars, or what if I gave you
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Speaker 3: ten years for a billion dollars? I mean, I guess
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Speaker 3: it would then depend upon how old are you. If
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Speaker 3: you're sixty, ten years for a billion dollars, maybe that
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Speaker 3: that begins to.
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Speaker 1: Gnaw at you a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Ten years is substantial time to travel, the world, builds
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Speaker 3: something lasting, love, maybe somebody deeply. A billion dollars you
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Speaker 3: can change lives, fun, dreams. It's your money. Do what
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Speaker 3: you want with it, leave a legacy. Ten years, billion dollars,
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Speaker 3: and still, those of you who are listening, still, the
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Speaker 3: answer is no, Right, The answer is no. Every tick
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Speaker 3: of the clock brings you ever closer to the end.
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Speaker 3: Ten years. Though rich and amazing with possibility, it's finite,
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Speaker 3: hard man. It's a reminder that, I mean, this is
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Speaker 3: not just a resource. Time is the very fabric of
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Speaker 3: the existence. We're not rich by what we possess, but
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Speaker 3: what we cannot do without a billion dollars pales in comparison,
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Speaker 3: weighed against the boundless potential of even a single hour.
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Speaker 3: So what amount of time? What'd you trade a billion
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Speaker 3: dollars for realistic time? I mean again, Obviously, if you're
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Speaker 3: sixty years old and someone were to give you a
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Speaker 3: billion dollars for fifty years, you'd probably say yes because
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Speaker 3: you're probably not going to make it to one hundred
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Speaker 3: and ten. But the truth is anything realistic, no amount
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Speaker 3: of money seems fair.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: Time is the most precious resource that we have, not
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Speaker 3: because it's so scarce, but because it's singular. Every second
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Speaker 3: carries the weight of immense possibilities, joy, sorrow, growth, connections,
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Speaker 3: and we're just so unsure of what lies after this.
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Speaker 3: If it's nothing, then it's not certainly not worth the trade.
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Speaker 3: And each moment it is unique everything, every second, like
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Speaker 3: you're listening to me right now, it's unique. You've never
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Speaker 3: heard this before, it's unique to you. You didn't have
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Speaker 3: this ten seconds ago, thirty seconds ago, thirty minutes ago.
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Speaker 3: And a billion dollars that can buy you mansion, fancy car.
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Speaker 3: But in the end, you probably wouldn't trade time for
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Speaker 3: any amount of money. Right. A billion dollars can do
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Speaker 3: a lot of different things, but you wouldn't. You wouldn't
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Speaker 3: pay it.
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Speaker 2: For one more.
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Speaker 3: You paid for one extra If you had ten billion,
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Speaker 3: you pay an extra billion for a day it's the
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Speaker 3: one thing you can't get back. Every second of every
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Speaker 3: day is priceless. So I just thought that that would
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Speaker 3: be That's just something I heard this analogy. Somebody else
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Speaker 3: did it and I kind of stole it, but I
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Speaker 3: thought it was fascinating. When you think about it, it just
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Speaker 3: shows you how much just one day is worth. Right.
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Speaker 3: Time can't be bored, bargained. It's the one currency that
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Speaker 3: flows without pause. It's indifferent to our wealth, our status.
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Speaker 3: The value of life is measured in years, or it's
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Speaker 3: not measured in the years or dollars, but in the
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Speaker 3: moments that you're given. So bottom line, the answer to
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Speaker 3: my original question of billion dollars for a day, no
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Speaker 3: a month, no a year, no ten years, no, nope,
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Speaker 3: Every fleeting moment of my life beautiful, agonizing, painful, wonderful,
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Speaker 3: every second of it it's worth far more than that.
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Speaker 3: It's basically worth everything. And I hope yours look at
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Speaker 3: yours the same exact way, because it's the it's the
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Speaker 3: most precious resource that we have. And I felt like
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Speaker 3: sharing that story with you give you a little different
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Speaker 3: perspective on some of the things that are bouncing around
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Speaker 3: One thy, three hundred and sixty nine arrest in DC
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Speaker 3: since the Feds be gan to patrol the streets, twelve
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Speaker 3: known gang members arrested. One juvenile was arrested for intent
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Speaker 3: to distribute fentanol. Here's the one where everyone should stand
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Speaker 3: Now, you can say what you want about crime and
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Speaker 3: has put boots on the ground, five missing children have
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Speaker 1: Right five missing kids found.
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Speaker 3: I mean that right there, right there alone should bring
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Speaker 3: on in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: Five kids that were you.
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Speaker 3: sex trade industry have been found. One hundred and forty
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Speaker 3: firearms have been That should make all of the Democrat
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Speaker 3: progressives excited. And fifty homeless encampments have been cleared. That's
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Speaker 3: since well it's two weeks. Two weeks in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 3: Tell me where this is the wrong approach. Tell me
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Speaker 3: where this is not the right way to go about things. Now,
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Speaker 3: you may not think there's a crime epidemic, but what
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Speaker 3: I just read you clearly tells me that there is.
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Speaker 3: And these people who I just read about, right, the
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Speaker 3: twelve known gang members, the juvenile, the five missing kids,
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Speaker 3: the fifty homeless encampments, one hundred and forty firearms. Those
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Speaker 3: people would still be on the streets causing havoc, wreaking, crime, wreaking,
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Speaker 3: you know, all kinds of chaos. Yet now they're off
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Speaker 3: the streets. So maybe people can go walk to the
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Speaker 3: corner restaurant and get a hamburger, get a sandwich. Maybe
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Speaker 3: they can go hand in hand to the nearest little
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Speaker 3: park area without the fear of having somebody mug them
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Speaker 3: from behind, or having a gang member come up and
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Speaker 3: attack them, or what have you.
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Speaker 1: I mean, where's the loss?
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Speaker 3: Three thirteen hundred and sixty nine Arress thirteen hundred and
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Speaker 3: sixty nine Arress in Washington. He's saying in the last
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Speaker 3: two weeks, guys, the only reason why anybody is pushing
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Speaker 3: back against this, the only reason is for Trump derangements,
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Speaker 3: the derangement syndrome. There is no other reason why you
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Speaker 3: would not want to have more law and order on
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Speaker 3: the streets of your city. It's just simple common sense.
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Speaker 3: But what are we doing? You got to give Trump
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Speaker 3: his props, even those of you who do have the TDS.
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Speaker 3: You got to give them props on this. He's killing it, man,
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Speaker 3: he's killing it in that arena, and y'all should be celebrating.
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Speaker 3: It's just the kids alone. Finding the kids alone is
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Speaker 3: enough for us to throw a wild celebratory party, although
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Speaker 3: they are again tens of thousands of other kids who
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Speaker 3: are flying under the radar that we need to find
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Speaker 3: So help me. Welcome Red Jankee to the program. Red,
22:52
Speaker 3: thanks for coming on. I appreciate it very much. How
22:55
Speaker 3: you doing tonight?
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Speaker 8: Hey, I'm doing well. It's pleasure to be here. Leate,
23:01
Speaker 8: thank you for the invitation.
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, you wrote a column a few weeks back,
23:06
Speaker 3: and we talked about it a little bit on the
23:07
Speaker 3: Morning show, but I got to give it to the
23:10
Speaker 3: national audience because it's so spot on and people can
23:13
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23:15
Speaker 3: ddashreddash line dot com. But I'm just going to get
23:18
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23:20
Speaker 3: explaining some of this stuff. So tell everybody you know
23:23
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Speaker 3: everybody that thirty thousand foot view to get us going.
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Speaker 8: Well, we've we've gone through just a massive amount of
23:36
Speaker 8: commentary about the one big beautiful bill in the mainstream media,
23:41
Speaker 8: mostly critical and non supportive, focusing in on its long
23:49
Speaker 8: term negative impact on deficits and debt. The Congressional Budget
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Speaker 8: Office has scored it as costing three point four trillion
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Speaker 8: dollars over the next decade. There's been some commentary over
24:07
Speaker 8: that period of time about, in separately, about the President's
24:13
Speaker 8: tarret program, and people have also for the most part,
24:18
Speaker 8: been critical. However, if you put those two programs together,
24:24
Speaker 8: you wind up with something that really hasn't been discussed.
24:29
Speaker 8: The Congressional Budget Office scored the tarret program and said
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Speaker 8: it was going to produce revenue positive revenue of three
24:37
Speaker 8: trillion dollars. The two programs offset this. These two programs
24:45
Speaker 8: are one, They are one program, and there's a strategy
24:50
Speaker 8: behind this. It really is going unrecognized in my reading
24:55
Speaker 8: in the mainstream press. So I wrote a column saying,
24:59
Speaker 8: maga is a pl It's not just this track a slogan.
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Speaker 3: So you think this was a plan from the onset.
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Speaker 3: Do you think Trump foresaw that this this tariff money
25:10
Speaker 3: would then sort of balance out the money that he
25:12
Speaker 3: was spending.
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Speaker 7: Well in a way.
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Speaker 8: Yes, it's a lead pipe cinch that tariffs are going
25:22
Speaker 8: to raise tariff revenue. And as of June, the tariff
25:28
Speaker 8: revenue who started picking up dramatically. If you look at
25:31
Speaker 8: the Jewe number, it's about twenty seven billion dollars on
25:35
Speaker 8: an annual basis, that's about.
25:37
Speaker 7: Three point two trillion.
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Speaker 8: Excuse me, three twenty billion, and over ten years that's
25:49
Speaker 8: three point two There you.
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Speaker 4: Have the math.
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Speaker 7: In June, the Trump the tariff.
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Speaker 8: Revenue was already offsetting what the official to Washington said
26:01
Speaker 8: was going to be the cost of the one big
26:04
Speaker 8: beautiful bill over the decade.
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Speaker 7: So there you have it.
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Speaker 8: It's it's one program, one and the same. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 8: It's curious to be that the president has not articulated
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Speaker 8: these two programs as a part of a single strategy.
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Speaker 8: But they just are, whether he articulates it or not.
26:28
Speaker 8: They work together. Love and marriage of course, and carriage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, are these based read on projections? What
26:38
Speaker 3: projections are they based on? Because there's an assumption too
26:42
Speaker 3: that comes along with tariffs that consumption will go down.
26:46
Speaker 3: So if consumption goes down, the does the profit from
26:50
Speaker 3: tariffs go down as well? I would assume it would,
26:53
Speaker 3: but you would know better.
26:57
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I think you're touching on why the strategy
27:04
Speaker 8: the overall strategy. Now, yes, I think just technically, I
27:08
Speaker 8: don't know whether the Congressional Budget Office in its scoring
27:13
Speaker 8: factor that in that taras will restrain consumption. But that's
27:21
Speaker 8: part of the plan in my opinion, one of the
27:24
Speaker 8: taken together. The one Big Beautiful Bill reduces taxes on
27:29
Speaker 8: income on productivity. The tariffs raise taxes on consumption. So
27:39
Speaker 8: the grand strategy is to move the nation from from
27:44
Speaker 8: over consumption into a nation that is once again more productive.
27:49
Speaker 8: Taxes provide incentive, and the more you tax something, the
27:55
Speaker 8: less of it.
27:55
Speaker 7: You get, so we'll get less consumption. Good for the nation.
28:01
Speaker 7: We should be instead producing.
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Speaker 2: Red.
28:05
Speaker 3: Jackie is with us and his column, his fascinating column
28:08
Speaker 3: is up on his website as we speak, and the
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Speaker 3: website it's easy the dash reddash line dot com, and
28:16
Speaker 3: you can read about the offset of the Big Beautiful
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Speaker 3: Bill and some of the money that we're spending and
28:21
Speaker 3: the debts supposedly that we're creating, but offset by the
28:25
Speaker 3: possibility of tariffs. Is there any chance before we get
28:27
Speaker 3: to something else, is there any chance that the tariffs
28:30
Speaker 3: that he collects, or even more maybe are they are
28:34
Speaker 3: they estimating on a low side? Could we see an
28:37
Speaker 3: explosion here? Do we make six trillion dollars over ten years?
28:40
Speaker 3: Eight trillion dollars? Is that a possibility?
28:46
Speaker 8: I don't think anyone knows. There's a huge caveat here.
28:51
Speaker 8: And let's just take today's news. The Federal Appeal Appeals
28:56
Speaker 8: Court has just ruled that the talent cert out of bounds,
29:01
Speaker 8: that the President has overstepped his authority under the law
29:06
Speaker 8: that he has cited is giving him the authority. So
29:10
Speaker 8: this is all a program of real uncertainty. But I
29:16
Speaker 8: think what needs our focus is what he's trying to do.
29:21
Speaker 8: And I find what he's trying to do, and whether
29:25
Speaker 8: it's one advisor or another, or the president himself bought
29:29
Speaker 8: this all up himself. This is a grand strategy to
29:34
Speaker 8: change the entire direction of the country.
29:38
Speaker 7: And if you look at most polls, most polls show.
29:41
Speaker 8: That that most people think we're on the wrong track. Well,
29:45
Speaker 8: this is an effort, a very very monumental effort to
29:51
Speaker 8: shift the track of the whole nation less consumption war production.
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Speaker 7: That's huge.
30:00
Speaker 8: And if the plan works out, production of course creates
30:07
Speaker 8: more income. With more income at all levels, hopefully then
30:12
Speaker 8: you have less need for social programs. You know, everyone
30:18
Speaker 8: gets wealthier and more productive, has more income. Now that
30:24
Speaker 8: is not to say there's not going to be a
30:26
Speaker 8: lot of pain. I think the President said there's going
30:28
Speaker 8: to be pain in this, and prices are going to
30:31
Speaker 8: go up. We can debate technically whether that will is
30:37
Speaker 8: a function of reignited inflation or it's a step change
30:43
Speaker 8: in price levels, and there's a difference.
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Speaker 7: But I'm not going to get overly wonky with this.
30:50
Speaker 8: It's a grand strategy and I think we all get
30:52
Speaker 8: should get behind the president in this effort.
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Speaker 3: Now, Red, you disagree with the other economists as far
30:57
Speaker 3: as the protectionism, and you feel like Trump's in the right,
31:02
Speaker 3: other economists economists are in the wrong. Can you explain
31:05
Speaker 3: that real quick?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a little wonky.
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Speaker 8: But we go back to a economist of several centuries ago,
31:17
Speaker 8: David Riccardo, and he compared England and Portugal in the
31:23
Speaker 8: production of cloth in wine. So keep a distinction near
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Speaker 8: your mind between absolute advantage in comparative advantage. Portugal, he posited,
31:34
Speaker 8: had an absolute advantage in both, a ten percent advantage
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Speaker 8: in cloth, a fifty percent advantage in wine.
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Speaker 7: Well, if you.
31:45
Speaker 8: Think about it, it makes more sense for Portugal to
31:49
Speaker 8: produce just wine. They've got a fifty percent advantage or
31:55
Speaker 8: profit margin. Why would they waste any of their energy
31:59
Speaker 8: on cloth? They only have a ten percent advantage if
32:02
Speaker 8: they don't produce cloth, then England can produce cloth even
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Speaker 8: though it's got a slight disadvantage. So what happens here
32:11
Speaker 8: is Portugal has a comparative advantage in why and England
32:16
Speaker 8: has a comparative advantage in cloth.
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Speaker 7: All seems to work.
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Speaker 8: However, it relies on two things, two assumptions. One there's
32:27
Speaker 8: no mobility of capital and I'm not going to explain.
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Speaker 7: Then, and two that each nation is going.
32:36
Speaker 8: To operate rationally and follow that objective. And it relies
32:43
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Speaker 7: Parity. Right, so you have a difference of ten.
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Speaker 8: What if Portugal has a seventy five percent advantage in both,
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Speaker 7: Hey Ley, Thanks. We were talking about free free trade theory.
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Speaker 8: We went through the conventional analysis that dates back to an A.
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Speaker 8: Colm As several centuries ago David Ricardo who made a
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Speaker 8: distinction between absolute advantage and comparative advantage.
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Speaker 7: And comparative advantage is the key in terms.
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Speaker 8: Of the supporters of pre trade.
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Speaker 7: But I posited that.
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Speaker 8: trading partners, that you're very roughly equals in most respects.
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Speaker 8: So if the US trades with Europe, we're on parodies,
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Speaker 8: and we should trade in terms of comparative dvantage. Europe
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Speaker 8: may do something, you know, more efficiently and productively than
39:40
Speaker 8: we do, and vice versa, and thus you have an
39:44
Speaker 8: advantage from pre trade. But enter China, and China has
39:51
Speaker 8: a seventy five percent advantage in manufacturing and they crush
39:59
Speaker 8: our manufact lecturing sector. And we had reviewed the fact
40:04
Speaker 8: that free trade in its origins had relied upon the
40:08
Speaker 8: idea that capital is not mobile. Okay, well, what happened
40:15
Speaker 8: after China, and even to get before China joined the
40:19
Speaker 8: World Trade Organization is capital flooded into China to take
40:25
Speaker 8: advantage and leverage its.
40:27
Speaker 7: Low cost labor, and so.
40:31
Speaker 8: We wound up with a Chinese manufacturing juggernaut, and it
40:37
Speaker 8: decimated the US manufacturing sector, illustrating that if capital is mobile,
40:45
Speaker 8: the real determinant of free trade is labor cost. So
40:52
Speaker 8: we need to erect some trade barriers, some protective barriers,
40:59
Speaker 8: otherwise all of our manufacturing and production will go overseas
41:03
Speaker 8: to lower cost labor locations. And here's here's here the
41:09
Speaker 8: kind of you know, paradox the most advanced nation, let's
41:16
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41:20
Speaker 8: of that advanced position across our entire society, right, so
41:28
Speaker 8: that is going to be shared mostly through higher labor rates.
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Speaker 7: So the the the.
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Speaker 8: What you take away from your advanced position, it undermines
41:41
Speaker 8: the basis of your advanced position. As your labor rates
41:46
Speaker 8: go up, your productive capacity goes overseas. So we need
41:54
Speaker 8: to have a level of protectionism so that does not happen.
41:59
Speaker 7: That's what the are all about there to raise the
42:05
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Speaker 8: So that we can rebuild some degree of manufacturing and
42:14
Speaker 8: productive capacity in this country.
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Speaker 3: Red listen, good stuff, buddy, and perfect timing because we're
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Speaker 2: Red.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy.
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