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Blue Jays Sign Santander · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the three O take
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  presented by Sea Kick. This episode 505 I'll be your
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  host, Kyle Corwin, and I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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  Nate. Happy Wednesday.
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  Boy, does it feel like a Wednesday.
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  This. I think I'll take a Monday over
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  whatever today was, you know? Yeah, yeah.
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  This was tough. This was a tough one for me.
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  This was a tough one. If you had real quick days of
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  the week draft just lightning fast, just I'm curious what what
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  your thoughts are Days of the week draft.
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  Saturday 1st pick for sure. See, I don't I, I don't know
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  because. Yeah, I know you're.
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  I know Friday for you I. Love Friday, man, because you,
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  the, The thing is, is you, you're not going to really have,
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  I mean, unless you actively make plans for Saturday, you don't
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  necessarily have things on Saturday.
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  So Friday, knowing that it's the end of the week, knowing that
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  you get Friday evening to kick the weekend off and you
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  potentially don't have anything the day after, I would almost
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  say Friday is the move. If we're drafting, if we're
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  drafting day, I hear you, but I'm a big sleep in guy.
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  And and I can't have that on, which is all the more reason
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  Friday is a great day to look forward to that because Sunday
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  you might have that church. Sunday you might have to go see
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  the family. That's like saying the ALCS is
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  better than the World Series because you're looking forward
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  to apples and oranges. Apples and oranges.
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  Give me Saturday, Friday, Sunday.
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  Honestly I don't think it matters other than that.
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  Like after that it just it just doesn't matter.
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  That's fair, That's fair. You want a.
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  You want a quick puppy update? Quick quick double update.
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  Yeah, let's, let's hear it. So yesterday, Tuesday, we we
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  come home. I come home from work.
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  I take Gracie on like a decent sized walk, like a good like
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  half hour walk, come back inside, work a little bit more.
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  Paige gets home and then we both go on the walk together.
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  So she gets like another 45 minute walk after that, right?
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  Got to go to small group. So go to Bible study, come back.
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  Two hours later, she got into the pantry.
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  Dude. And crushed, I would guess $6070
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  worth of food. Oh man.
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  An entire thing of the King's Hawaiian sweet rolls.
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  She's got good taste. Goldfish cheddar blast.
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  Extra cheddar blast. I can't knock her for going
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  after what she is. She clearly knows what she likes
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  and she went out tortilla. Chips.
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  Cliff Builder bar Kind breakfast.
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  Bar. Is there anything there that she
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  got into that wasn't well, that just didn't?
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  Not a banger of a snack. I mean, come on.
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  She did well. She cleaned up.
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  Not. Not literally, not literally,
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  because after she was done with that, she got into the trash and
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  and knocked that over and and shredded all that stuff too.
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  So that was fun to come home too.
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  Oh, and she pissed in the hallway on on top of.
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  All of it. So I'm going to eat your food
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  and. Didn't I didn't know how to
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  feel. Paige and I were just like in a
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  silent, infuriated. State.
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  For like 2 hours. Dude, she said.
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  I'm going to eat all your food and I'm going to disrespect you
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  to your face. Unbelievable.
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  Yeah, she's pooped like 7 times since then.
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  She threw up a full Hawaiian roll and I was like, where's the
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  other 11? You know, you just have a rock
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  in your stomach of King's Hawaiian rolls tough.
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  Yeah, being a dog, Dad, is, is not, is not easy, man.
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  They don't. They don't prep you for this.
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  Stuff. They don't prepare you for these
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  moments. Speaking of which, great hat.
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  And if you're not watching on YouTube, figure it out.
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  Figure it out. It's a good hat.
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  Appreciate it. Christmas gift Speaking of
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  Christmas gift, the Blue Jays got a gift to their own.
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  Oh the fuck the Segway king dude.
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  Finally, it's about time and I'll be honest with you, I feel
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  like in my head, I got to, I got to take a step back here because
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  I, I, I feel like we gave Anthony Santander the respect he
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  was due. Because when you really look at
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  the primarily the power numbers, you go this guy, at least for
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  the last through call it three years in baseball has been one
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  of the better power bats, not just in the American League.
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  He's not just in the American League, but all of baseball.
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  So I want to preface it by saying that that like we we have
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  given him his due, but I feel like maybe in our heads, correct
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  me if I'm wrong here. Are we do we overhype it?
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  No, no, no. Are we overhyping the the move
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  to Toronto on behalf of the Blue Jays just because the it's it's
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  a name like they finally got somebody like we're treating
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  we're treating the Blue Jays getting Anthony Santander as if
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  it was fill in the blank team getting a a a player, maybe a
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  tear up. Do you get what I'm saying?
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  I get it. We're going, I think I.
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  Can I think I can take a bite out of that, Yeah.
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  Do you get, do you hear, do you, do you kind of pick up what I'm
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  what I'm putting down? I think so, or am I just?
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  Pulling this way out of left field.
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  Because no, I think I've picked it up.
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  I think I've picked it up. You put it down and I picked it
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  up. I'm glad because like, if this
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  is the biggest move the Blue Jays make all offseason, it's
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  like, I mean, they got they got a body, they got a warm body.
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  And that's no disrespect to Santander, but like again, you
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  go back to their, the, the, the, the track record of the Blue
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  Jays. And similar to like the Padres,
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  you're just throwing money at the wall.
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  The Giants, even they're throwing money at the wall.
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  See, see what sticks? See which player, which free
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  agent goes up and grabs it. This time it was Anthony
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  Santander, which by the way, I saw a quote the other day or, or
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  from the presser, I guess it was actually yesterday.
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  Where was it like the, the president of baseball OPS or
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  somebody in the front office? I apparently told him, yeah, we
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  had a jersey with your name, float with your name on it
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  floating around the office all offseason.
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  I'm like, no, you didn't. No, you didn't.
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  You, maybe you were tied to Anthony Santander, but let's not
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  pretend like this was this was written in the stars.
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  I'm so out on a free agent signing, needing to have some
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  type of extended time attachment storyline.
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  Like every, every free agent is like, here's a picture of me as
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  a kid in this uniform. And I'm like, dude, if you
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  played for any Little League in our generation, I was a giant.
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  I was a Cardinal. I, I, we, you were an Astro.
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  Like we were all over the place. Oh, this is fun.
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  No, this is a fun exercise. Let me let me go back and think
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  here. OK, I was.
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  I was a Cardinal way too many times by the way.
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  True. Same.
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  That was probably my yeah, I was like, that was, I was like Rich
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  Hill in the Red Sox. It was like, oh, I guess I'm
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  going back to the Cardinals. All right.
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  I was in in an alternate universe if I made it to the big
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  leagues and I'm a big league player getting ready for let's
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  say my my 6 big league season and the storyline that they're
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  going to show at at my my at bats for my All Star game
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  appearance is going to be Can you believe that?
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  Kyle donned a fill in the blank jersey.
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  I was AI was a Philly. I was a I was a Philly.
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  That was my first, first ever team, actually.
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  T-ball, Phillies, Diamondbacks, Orioles, White Sox, Rangers,
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  Astros, Cardinals. There's some more in there.
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  I know there. Were we're not counting club
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  team, right? We're just, we're just talking
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  SYA, SYA. That's all.
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  Yeah, that's all it was for me. Yeah, think my first team I was
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  a Rocky. Oh yeah, Rockies I was a Rocky
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  for. Sure.
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  I was Rocky D backs was like coach pitch.
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  There's a big gap here. I don't know what happened after
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  that. I think I think that was like
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  the stretch of Cardinals there. There could have been a four or
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  five year run on the Cardinals. Like if I was to put into the
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  SYA Hall of Fame, I'd have to probably wear a Cardinals lid
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  and then went to Giants and then when then and then when the
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  Nationals came to town, the Giants team stayed together, but
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  we we switched, correct? Internationals.
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  I remember that, yeah. But to your point, there's it,
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  there's. But there's always, they always
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  have to tie it in this like stop, it's OK.
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  It's OK to just like, just have a.
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  Guy like hey. We made it happen.
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  It doesn't have to be like, oh, I, I got Santander tattooed on
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  my on my arm three years ago waiting to get you.
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  Like shut up. It's fine.
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  You don't have to go. It's a business.
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  Creepy like stalker status. Saying that like I've we've been
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  tied to you forever. No, you haven't.
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  No, you haven't. If this was a priority of yours,
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  Blue Jays, this would have happened two months ago, so I
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  don't want to hear it. I'm out on those.
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  All done. Blue Jays So does this move the
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  needle for you in terms of in terms of the offense?
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  It has? It has to it has to because I
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  just got done saying that like we gave him the respect he was
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  due for the for the very reason that the power numbers are there
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  indisputable He and it's not just a it's it's not just coming
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  off of a hot year. I mean he is, but it's not just
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  that alone. It's not that isolated 3 years.
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  We're, we're going on now this, we're assuming he's able to
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  replicate his efforts last year to some degree, maybe not to the
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  same degree, but similar degree. That'll be four years in a row
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  that we're talking about the, the power that he he provides
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  whatever offense he's a part of so.
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  He brings some pop. And he helps the line up, but in
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  that division, forget, forget the league as a whole in that
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  division, I just don't know how much it it moves.
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  It moves them up the the board if it all.
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  You just don't have a ton of depth.
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  And we do have to remind ourselves, like Bob Bouchette
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  had a terrible year last year. Right, so some things need.
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  To go right, that's the norm, I think.
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  I think he'll come back to what's normal, at least close to
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  it. Vlad did have a good year last
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  year. I'm assuming in a walk year
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  potentially he's going to pop off throwing a switch hitter to
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  split those guys up. Kind of weird.
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  Do you imagine Santander in the Santander in the two hole if you
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  were to assume that's the route? I don't, I don't really know
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  their line up. I mean, do you go, do you try to
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  get Varsho back on the horse and lead him off and then go Boba
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  shet to Santander? 3 Vladi 4 Vlad?
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  I love that. I don't know.
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  Vlad being 4. Vladi right now is projected in
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  the two holes, Santander 3, Bichette 4, which I'm not wild
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  about. I would rather Springer.
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  I would rather hedge my bets on Bichette being having a having a
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  bounce back being but and again, I'm throwing left right switch
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  out the window. I don't care about that and I
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  know that I'm not a big league manager.
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  So what what difference does my opinion make?
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  But in in looking at, dare I say traditional lineup fits, I'm
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  looking more at the type of hitter you are and less about
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  which side of the plate you come from.
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  Because you you see guys with with I mean, reverse splits are
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  very much a thing in baseball. And it's certainly a case by
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  case basis there. And I'm not saying that Bichette
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  has reverse splits or Flatty has reverse splits, but just in
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  terms of the type of hitter you are, I see again, traditionally
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  speaking, Beau Bichette fitting in as like a two guy and maybe
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  bump. I would I, if Vladdy is
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  projected to have the year that I think many people are hoping
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  that he does, given the nature of his status in impending free
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  agency, put Vladdy in the three hole, let him pop off.
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  You have Santander in the four hole as a as a little bit of
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  protection and then you you figure it out five through 9
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  because you I mean you. Added That's where the depth is
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  that I'm talking about. I struggle, I struggle with the
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  back half of that line up, but like, I don't know, like Bo Bo
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  hitting four, just I, I just picture him slapping singles
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  through the right side and, and you're, I struggle seeing Vlad
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  scoring from second over and over.
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  I struggle seeing a Santander getting 1st to 3rd.
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  Like I don't know, like I, I, I would probably prefer to have a
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  little bit of speed up top. And I don't know, George
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  Springer is awash for me. Like I, the guy's going to play
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  90 games every year. Like it's just, I think he's
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  done. I think he's washed.
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  So relying on him as a lead off like everyday guys just doesn't
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  feel that way. Well, let me ask you this, with
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  the names that are still out there, do you think the Blue
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  Jays are done? Do you think that they could?
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  Because look, we, we, we, we love to joke about it.
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  And to our credit, it, it ends up falling through more times
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  than not. But every offseason do you get
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  to a point in free agency where the whole mystery team news text
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  alert update that you that you get seemingly a dozen times in
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  offseason. You get to a point in the
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  offseason where some teams start to get a little desperate and
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  they make a move for a guy and those things act that that alert
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  actually holds true. So are the Blue Jays maybe A and
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  I, I use mystery term term mystery team loosely because I
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  know that, you know, they have ever so slightly been connected
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  to an Alonso, maybe even a Bregman.
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  So it's there. They wouldn't be a true dark
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  horse in that regard. But could you could you see some
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  some addition being made of one of those two?
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  Potentially I can see Bregman. I can see Bregman more than
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  Pete. I feel like if you go Pete, it
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  gives me like the the Red Sox getting Trevor Story before a
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  Xander Walkier vibe, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like a like a like a safety net Will will play him in this
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  position while they're both on the roster and then slide him in
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  when we lose this guy. So that you.
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  I feel like PETA just closes the door on Vladdy.
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  Even if he does hit the market next year, you could still
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  negotiate, obviously, like you could still resign him.
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  They've got the money. Yeah, yeah.
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  And I think, I think the extensions done I I, I think
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  it's kind of silly to still get these notifications that they're
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  in talks. I think Vlad's definitely going
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  to hit the market. I think it's dumb for him not to
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  and and just try to drive that number up a little bit.
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  So I I would lean Bregman more as as the fit there.
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  And if you put Bregman in that lineup, that that gets me
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  feeling, that gets me feeling some things.
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  I mean, for what it's worth, Will Wagner is projected to be
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  their DH right now, so it's not like Pete.
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  I agree with you in terms of Bregman.
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  I think Bregman is just a more versatile fit for any team that
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  ultimately gets him. Well, what are they projecting?
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  Are they projecting? Santander.
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  Santander and left. So yeah, but so that's what I'm
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  saying. You like you.
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  I I get your comparison with with Xander and story and all
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  that, but this theoretically could work more so than that
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  because with that you had to bump story over.
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  You had, you had to move around. It's just, it wasn't as seamless
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  of a fit. But with this, you could easily
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  slot one end at at 1st and and the other is the DH and, and not
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  even think twice about it and just and make a run at it this
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  year. Even if you lose out on Vladdy,
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  you could you still have two names there that you could work
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  with this. For sure.
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  See, to me, like I, I would prefer to rotate Santander and
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  Springer at the DH spot. I need to look at that roster.
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  But rotate those two guys between right field and DH, then
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  I'm going to feel a little bit better about the longevity.
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  I want to see who their other outfielders are.
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  Right now they got Nathan Lukes. That's where I was.
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  I was missing a name. So yeah, man, I could see, I
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  could see low Profito on left or Springer.
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  I mean, excuse me. Or Varsho in center or rotate
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  those two. Put Varsho on left.
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  I think low Profito is going to play a lot.
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  Put him in center. I know he struggled with the
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  stick after they traded for him, but that's a good name.
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  That's a really, that's a prospect that everyone should
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  pay attention to. And you know that David
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  Schneider is going to float around and, and get his time,
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  get his time in different spots, whether it be, you know, in the
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  infield or occasionally starting and left or whatever.
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  So I think getting Springer off his feet and keeping him healthy
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  is probably priority #1 like, let him.
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  Like you're attached to, you're attached to that name, you're
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  attached to that contract. There's you're not getting out
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  of it, you're not moving him. You got to make sure you can get
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  anything you can out of him. So allowing him to DH more
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  often. So I just, I feel like Alonso
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  would be like a forced fit. I feel like Alonso would be like
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  a we missed out on so, so many other names.
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  And you know, kind of what you were talking about, like what
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  the giants seemingly do pre Buster Posey, throwing money at
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  the wall and and throwing contracts at the wall.
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  And just seeing like, hey, you know, this will work.
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  And then you look at the 4th or 5th place finish or whatever in
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  the division, you're just like man.
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  See I disagree. I don't know if force is the
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  right word. I I'm still with you.
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  I think Bregman would be a better.
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  Holes. I think Bregman would be a
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  better fit, but I think generally speaking, you're not
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  going to be upset with either of those.
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  We don't have to go on to, not to mention on, we don't have to.
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  Go on anymore about the. Blue Jays.
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  Yeah, let's not. Let's not forget that move too,
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  you know what I mean? Yeah, but I'm not.
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  I'd be I'd be not feel good about that line up.
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  I would feel good about that line up if if Bregman slides in,
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  but they still I feel like the rotation needs to get bolstered
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  a little bit and I don't even know like what options.
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  Latest on Bregman is that he and the Dodgers or he and the
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  Dodgers he and the Tigers at at a standstill.
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  No, I mentioned Dodgers because we got to get into some Dodgers
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  talk here. Kirby Yates, it's not official
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  last I checked, but the plan is they're I mean they're they've
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  reached a tentative agreements according to Bob and Nightingale
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  pending a physical. So that has yet to be officially
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  reported at this exact moment in time.
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  That could change very quickly, but we got to talk about this
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  for just a minute. But I think we do have a
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  voicemail on on this very topic. Love the voicemails.
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  I think it's voicemail time. Hey, fellas, AJ Torres.
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  It's been a while, I know. And I just want to say something
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  that nobody else is going to say, but I'm going to do it
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  anyway. I'm not pissed off at the
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  Dodgers. I'm pissed off at the majority
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  of the owners and the general managers of baseball because
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  it's disgraceful. I'll give credit to some
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  organizations, of course. Well, if you are a poverty
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  organization like the Mariners and I'll give a pass through
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  some of them that are in a money crisis because of God forbid the
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  ratings like the Padres and the owner passing away.
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  But when you see things like Kirby Yates going to the
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  Dodgers, you know Kyle Finnegan on the market.
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  It's like you're telling me that every team can't use an extra
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  bullpen on to make sure that the bullpen is in tax for the whole
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  entire year. It's absolutely crazy.
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  It's like they're not even trying anymore.
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  It's absolutely freaking despicable.
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  Majority of the general managers are to blame because you you
• 23:36
  can't tank in the sport for a hard and 62 games.
• 23:40
  You cannot tank. You want butts and seats?
• 23:43
  Give a damn try. There's guys out there, guys for
• 23:48
  cheap, guys that'll help the ball club.
• 23:51
  And while everyone waits on their hands and knees and wants
• 23:54
  to pay pennies, the Dodgers will say hold my beer, which
• 23:58
  apparently going to be like $30 a pop this offseason into the
• 24:02
  new season, but I digress. But come on, everybody's doing
• 24:07
  nothing. The Dodgers are just getting
• 24:09
  better. Screw blaming the Dodgers, Blame
• 24:13
  the other teams. Take it easy, fellas.
• 24:16
  Hey, Phil, it's AJ Torres. It's been a while.
• 24:19
  I know. We're running it back.
• 24:21
  We're. Running it back, I guess.
• 24:22
  I don't know why they did that. It's not.
• 24:24
  So here's the deal. I had to upload it to the web
• 24:27
  sound board because my actual sound board's not working.
• 24:31
  So whatever. I heard the repeat.
• 24:34
  Yeah. I'm such a dweeb.
• 24:38
  Yeah. I mean, sort of a summary of
• 24:40
  kind of what we talked about last episode.
• 24:42
  It's it, it you can't, it's easy to see and I'll, I'll admit I'm,
• 24:47
  I'm guilty of it. I saw the Kirby Yates update and
• 24:50
  I'm like, and I tweeted out, I was like, who pissed off the
• 24:55
  Dodgers? But then you have to take a step
• 24:57
  back and I, I, I saw a few takes that expressed or or rather
• 25:03
  brought this back down to earth. And they're like, look, it's
• 25:07
  easy to get upset because you see Kirby Yates signs with fill
• 25:12
  in the blank with Dodgers. It's easy to get upset over
• 25:15
  that. But in reality, I would venture
• 25:19
  to say if any other team in baseball really, really wanted
• 25:23
  them, you can't, you can't say the same for Sasaki.
• 25:26
  You probably can't say the same thing for Snell or or anybody
• 25:30
  else. Essentially that's gone to the
• 25:31
  Dodgers, Dodgers in the last 24 months.
• 25:36
  But I would have to think that if you really wanted Kirby
• 25:41
  Yates, you probably could have gotten them before the Dodgers
• 25:44
  got to him. I think the Dodgers were just
• 25:46
  looking around at this point in the offseason going.
• 25:51
  I mean, let's keep this thing, Roland know who's left.
• 25:55
  Maybe we need a reliever. We don't need a reliever, but we
• 25:59
  haven't we haven't added a reliever in 24 hours.
• 26:02
  So let's go add a reliever. They go get Kirby Yates and then
• 26:05
  the the corresponding report is that they're they're now
• 26:07
  shopping Ryan Brasher. So it's literally.
• 26:11
  Stopping him for what? It's well, you, you add a
• 26:15
  reliever, apparently you got to get rid of a reliever.
• 26:17
  It's it's vintage, just classic fantasy baseball management
• 26:22
  where you're just like, I'm kind of tired of this toy.
• 26:24
  I'm going to I'm going to check the the the waivers and see what
• 26:28
  I can, what I can pick up. And you just add, you add a guy
• 26:32
  and then he may not even play for you by the before the next
• 26:36
  days worth of games hits, you've already dropped that guy.
• 26:40
  It's possible the Dodgers end up dropping Kirby Yates for and
• 26:44
  picks and pick somebody else up or trade him for or trade him
• 26:47
  for somebody else that they like a little bit more because
• 26:49
  they're it's it's monopoly. They're playing with, with house
• 26:53
  money at this point. And I can't even be upset at
• 26:57
  them because they're they're, they're identifying their needs,
• 27:01
  their wants, and they're going out and getting them.
• 27:02
  So I'm not even. I can't even.
• 27:04
  Going to be upset. I can't say needs I, I do.
• 27:09
  Agree with you, to them it's a need I guess.
• 27:15
  Run me through the rotation. Tell me like you don't look it
• 27:18
  up. I know you've got it.
• 27:20
  Like we can run through this. OK, I'll.
• 27:22
  I'll put this down. Will the show Hey.
• 27:25
  OK, we got show. Hey.
• 27:26
  In no particular order. Show Hey, Glass now.
• 27:30
  Snell. Snell.
• 27:32
  Yamamoto, Sasaki. No.
• 27:37
  Who is the 6th, though? There was a 6th before you got
• 27:39
  to that, that tier. Gavin Stone.
• 27:45
  No Gold Stone's out this year, I believe.
• 27:50
  Maybe. OK, maybe it was 5.
• 27:51
  Ohtani Snell, Yamamoto Glass. Now Sasaki Kershaw.
• 27:55
  If you bring him back, if and when you bring him back.
• 27:58
  Dustin May. Bobby Miller, we said, Gonsalin,
• 28:04
  we said Stone, who again, I think is is out.
• 28:08
  Someone has to pitch in the bullpen and then you start
• 28:12
  throwing out those names. Vessia Brazier.
• 28:17
  Gradurol. Yeats, Kolpek, Evan Phillips,
• 28:22
  Trinin. Vessia.
• 28:25
  Did I say Vessia already? Kenley Jansen's trying to combat
• 28:28
  like he is. He is willing to pitch for
• 28:30
  peanuts at this point so he can go back to Lai.
• 28:37
  It's cool man. Like do what you want to do.
• 28:39
  Like they're, they're clearly doing whatever they want to do.
• 28:44
  It is weird that other teams aren't, aren't hopping on these
• 28:47
  deals, but you know, whatever. I don't, I don't know.
• 28:50
  I did see a funny Reddit comment that I definitely had to.
• 28:57
  Mr. A Mr. AC Milan in the chat we cut we.
• 29:01
  Rewind a little bit. You just missed us.
• 29:04
  We talked potential Alonzo to the Jays move just moments ago.
• 29:08
  So. Send it back about 1520 minutes.
• 29:12
  We covered it. Don't want you to think we
• 29:15
  forgot about you, all right? The Reddit comment is great.
• 29:20
  Breaking you. Yes, you, the reader, have
• 29:23
  reached a tentative deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers, pending
• 29:26
  a physical. It's everybody, man.
• 29:28
  It's just I, I'm running out of, I'm running out of places like
• 29:40
  some guys aren't going to be able to play some, some guys
• 29:43
  aren't going to get innings. It's, it's going to be
• 29:46
  interesting. I think it is now shifted to
• 29:49
  where there might be some sort of pressure on Dave Roberts to
• 29:56
  get everybody the ample amount of time to to make sure that
• 30:01
  like you're not ditching a hot hand just to get somebody in the
• 30:07
  line up or in the game from the pen and it's sure.
• 30:12
  But I mean this that's. A problem to have.
• 30:14
  There's not too much else he needs to manage.
• 30:16
  But this isn't 11, you Little League like it.
• 30:19
  These are grown men. Some guys are just not going to
• 30:22
  get time and they're just got to be OK with that.
• 30:25
  Feelings being heard. I'm talking about keeping these,
• 30:28
  keeping everybody in a good spot.
• 30:31
  Like if you don't get if you don't get ABS, it's short webs,
• 30:36
  right? If you're not, if you, you see
• 30:39
  what it's like when, when a closer doesn't have a save
• 30:44
  opportunity for a week and then and then a manager just throws
• 30:47
  them in in a blowout just to get in it and it messes with them,
• 30:52
  right? It could screw things up.
• 30:53
  So that's what I'm saying is that like they're that's the
• 30:56
  only pressure that I can think of.
• 30:58
  That's the only thing that Dave Roberts is going to have to deal
• 31:02
  with is managing getting each guy enough, enough time.
• 31:09
  The only, the only pressure that Dave Roberts is feeling this
• 31:13
  season that we joked about it last episode, setting the single
• 31:19
  season wins record. I think that you you're just
• 31:25
  going to have to do whatever you can to absolutely save this,
• 31:30
  vaporize anybody that's in front of you, save this clip, save the
• 31:35
  date that regular season win total record.
• 31:44
  The sentiment around that, the question from the media that'll
• 31:47
  be snubbed within two weeks of spring training, it'll be
• 31:53
  snubbed. For the record, I'm not saying
• 31:55
  he's waking up and writing that on his whiteboard.
• 31:58
  I'm it's more of a, it's more of a like a benchmark and less of
• 32:05
  like an isolated accomplishment. I'm saying that ultimately Dave
• 32:10
  Roberts is going to do whatever it takes or I would imagine, I
• 32:15
  would hope, I would think with the pressure that he's more than
• 32:18
  likely going to be facing this year, given the roster that
• 32:21
  they've constructed for this season is that they are going to
• 32:24
  have to go out win every single game.
• 32:27
  They're going to have to go 162 and O and win by 15 because we
• 32:34
  talked about last episode, you this team is too good.
• 32:37
  And you can you can say that about a given team coming into a
• 32:43
  a new season. Like man, this team is really
• 32:46
  good. They really it's kind of World
• 32:48
  Series or bust for them. But the Dodgers quite literally
• 32:52
  have no choice. I mean you have an All Star and
• 32:57
  or an MVP candidate at nearly every spot on your roster, even
• 33:07
  guys on the bench. Talking about them.
• 33:10
  I'm tired of talking about it too.
• 33:13
  I'm tired of talking about it too.
• 33:14
  And I'm not hating. I'm simply saying this is the
• 33:16
  reality that they're more more than likely going to be facing
• 33:20
  this season and they're you, you.
• 33:23
  I mean, you want to talk expectations.
• 33:25
  That's what they're up against this year because that's that's
• 33:27
  what they've built. They put the target on their own
• 33:29
  back. That's, I mean, that's that's
• 33:32
  just a. Fact I I think there's teams in
• 33:33
  the past that have put a target on their back and then there's
• 33:36
  this. I don't know what this is.
• 33:37
  I don't know what this is. This, this ain't a target.
• 33:40
  This is I don't know what this is.
• 33:44
  This is glow in the dark. You can never lose sight of me
• 33:48
  target. This is reflective short shorts
• 33:54
  on the on the on the cyclist on the side of the road at night.
• 33:58
  This is security vest. Orange and neon yellow
• 34:02
  reflective lining vests. That's right, on a city
• 34:07
  sidewalk. That's right.
• 34:09
  Forget the woods. Big old target.
• 34:12
  We're in broad daylight, can't miss them.
• 34:16
  Yep. This is what we're dealing with
• 34:17
  with the Dodgers. Speaking of the Dodgers, future
• 34:24
  Dodger Paul skeens his card. His MLB debut patch card was
• 34:28
  found. And you want to do you want to
• 34:33
  get into a little bit of conspiracy here with this I'm.
• 34:36
  Down. Always down.
• 34:38
  I mean the OK the likelihood of this being, I mean the odds of
• 34:43
  this are slim to none, but I have yet to see anything to
• 34:49
  disprove this. OK.
• 34:53
  I don't know. Well, no, you don't have.
• 34:54
  You're not on Twitter anymore, but friend of the pod Dallas
• 34:59
  Braden. Known conspiracy theorists.
• 35:04
  Sure known known pack Ripper tweeted this out three days ago.
• 35:16
  OK. After ripping what seems to be
• 35:21
  packs from 10 boxes. OK.
• 35:31
  He has yet to comment or reveal who it was.
• 35:36
  OK. Do you know what state Dallas
• 35:38
  Braden lives in? When you go out on a limb and
• 35:42
  say Pennsylvania. That's quite a limb and you're
• 35:46
  wrong and I know that you know the right answer.
• 35:48
  He lives in California. Not to dox the guy, but I think
• 35:51
  people can can sort of take that leap.
• 35:57
  The card was found by an 11 year old collector in California.
• 36:06
  And I know I'm he's a nice guy. And I'm not saying he he would
• 36:11
  go as so far to to gift something like this to maybe a
• 36:14
  family friend or, or something of that nature.
• 36:18
  But I just find it really interesting that he posts that
• 36:21
  that debut patch three days ago has yet to reveal who it is, and
• 36:27
  then three days later the card pops up in California.
• 36:33
  OK. Is there any can we connect dots
• 36:37
  between the 11 year old? That's what I'm saying, like I
• 36:40
  don't know if this is like a family friend situation and and
• 36:44
  Dallas looked at this and was like, you know what, I've got a
• 36:47
  good life. I'd I'm going to, I'm going to
• 36:49
  make somebody else's because we don't know the identity of the
• 36:53
  11 year old yet. Understandably so, but.
• 36:58
  I'm just saying, I'm glad that didn't come out right away.
• 37:01
  I'm, you know, glad we can keep some things under wrap for for a
• 37:07
  little bit. I don't know.
• 37:11
  I was, I was expecting a little bit more heat behind that,
• 37:15
  behind that conspiracy theory. I'm a little let down to be
• 37:18
  honest with you. It's not a conspiracy theory, I
• 37:20
  just sort of preface it by saying that it's really.
• 37:23
  Just you got me too hyped up. That's what I'm saying.
• 37:26
  Yeah. It's a good question.
• 37:28
  It's a good journalist question. You know what?
• 37:32
  I'll take that. I'll take the L there.
• 37:33
  All right. Look, I was, I was geared up.
• 37:44
  That's ready to go, that's all. I shouldn't.
• 37:47
  I shouldn't, yeah. I shouldn't have called it a
• 37:48
  conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy.
• 37:50
  It's just. It's there's a lot of people
• 37:51
  that live in California, so I don't know speculation.
• 37:54
  This is This is. Falling apart as we speak.
• 37:57
  But do you not find it odd, though, that we have yet to
• 38:00
  figure out, we've yet to hear from Dallas, who this debut?
• 38:03
  Patch is as far as odd goes. Look it up in the dictionary.
• 38:07
  You will see Dallas Braden's face.
• 38:09
  So I don't think it's too crazy what I do like, and I think we
• 38:15
  talked about this when this was first announced that that was
• 38:19
  put out there and like the Pirates had their offer that we
• 38:22
  wanted to go to a kid. We didn't want it to go to like
• 38:25
  some weirdo, you know, stalker collector.
• 38:30
  Like I just don't get me wrong, you and I both like memorabilia.
• 38:35
  There's stuff all over our walls.
• 38:36
  I think it's really cool. I'm not super into baseball
• 38:40
  cards like I was when I was a kid.
• 38:42
  Neither are you. I was.
• 38:45
  There for a minute, but I. Just don't get the the weirdo
• 38:51
  adult hanging around kids trying to get an autograph leaning
• 38:56
  through the net before a game. Like I just, I don't, I can't, I
• 39:00
  can't ever be that guy. Can't get behind it, I agree.
• 39:03
  So I don't know, the sentiment of it is just like, I want a kid
• 39:07
  to win. I want a kid to pull this card.
• 39:12
  Logistics suck for the Pirates, you know what I mean?
• 39:15
  Like the Pirates threw that offer out there potentially
• 39:19
  hoping that like, you know, someone in at least the
• 39:22
  Northeast region would win to be able to, you know, attend and
• 39:27
  take advantage of those. They said the in California
• 39:30
  well. Well, they said the offer is
• 39:31
  still saying so I don't like, I don't know what that looks like.
• 39:36
  Was the kid just never going to go to school?
• 39:37
  It's this is 11 year old Dell. I mean, that's about the right
• 39:42
  age to start admiring Olivia Dunn.
• 39:44
  You know what I mean? That's about when you start,
• 39:47
  when you start getting eyes for that.
• 39:49
  So that. That does.
• 39:51
  That throws a wrench into. It at Liposki and watch out
• 39:54
  buddy. You should have never put that
• 39:56
  patch on your uniform. That's all I'll say.
• 40:00
  Man, that's cool though. That's cool.
• 40:04
  What? And we, I think we went over it
• 40:06
  last time. What it what is it worth like on
• 40:08
  a monetary What they? Say like 500K.
• 40:16
  That's cool, man, That's cool. A Millie Bridge of October
• 40:22
  podcast. Obviously here in the chat they
• 40:25
  they'd have the inside scoop a little bit.
• 40:29
  It's nice to be able to break down the the Pirates offer.
• 40:35
  Yeah, I mean, you could. You could.
• 40:36
  Can you put a price on, you know, hanging out with, with a,
• 40:42
  with a hot chick when you're 11 years old?
• 40:47
  That's, you know, you, you can. It's a tough argument.
• 40:51
  I mean, you're at that age. Reality of it is you're at that
• 40:55
  age where you can sort of like, you can sort of do your
• 40:57
  flirting, but it's not weird because you're 11 years old.
• 41:00
  What are they going? Of course, Libby Dunn's going to
• 41:02
  eat it up. What did we do every time we
• 41:05
  travelled for club baseball when we were 11 years old?
• 41:08
  We hit a Hooters every time. That's just, I don't know what,
• 41:12
  I don't know what teams you were on.
• 41:13
  I never made my way to Hooters at 11.
• 41:16
  And one of the kids always pretended that it was his
• 41:18
  birthday. That's just how we rolled Austin
• 41:22
  Redmond, if you're listening. You were always leading that
• 41:25
  that charge for sure. So yeah, definitely that.
• 41:29
  Yeah, that's definitely that age, you know, So it's a part of
• 41:37
  the equation. If that 11 year old's listening,
• 41:43
  don't take the offer it. I mean, it's it's it's great
• 41:47
  that the pirates did that and all, but don't take it.
• 41:50
  It's a. Good story.
• 41:51
  I would, I would sit on that puppy and and let that number go
• 41:55
  up and, you know, have college paid for, get a house.
• 42:04
  All that stuff is taken care of right away.
• 42:07
  That's a dream. That's the dream.
• 42:10
  Speaking of dream, the dreams of three baseball legends came true
• 42:17
  yesterday. Ichiro, CC Sabathia and Billy
• 42:24
  Wagner. Before I forget, I don't want
• 42:26
  it. I don't want to let it pass
• 42:27
  because I know we'll get into these, these guys.
• 42:29
  But before I forget, just major props, major major props to
• 42:34
  Billy Wagner. Hold it down for us D3 athletes
• 42:40
  out there. Mad props.
• 42:43
  In fact, we in my playing career, we actually matched up
• 42:48
  with his, his very own Fareham College.
• 42:52
  So I, I know it well, he's a Virginia native, holding it down
• 42:56
  for the VA, holding it down for the D3 athletes.
• 42:59
  Much love to Billy Wagner. But yes, Ichiro, CC Sabathia,
• 43:03
  Billy Wagner. Look, the hot topic right now
• 43:09
  that everyone's, everyone's talking about Ichiro missing the
• 43:14
  unanimous vote by a single vote. And my take on it is pretty
• 43:22
  simple, actually, think about it like this.
• 43:27
  Because I had somebody in the comments on I, I, I put the, the
• 43:31
  post out on Instagram. Actually, it was friend of the
• 43:35
  pod, Rocco, part of part of our other friend of the pod, friend
• 43:39
  of the program, Ryan Ripken's crew of their, what they're
• 43:43
  doing. Rocco.
• 43:44
  I, I put his tweet out where he said somebody really took a look
• 43:48
  at their ballot, saw Itro's name and said, Nah, I'm good.
• 43:52
  It's a joke that he didn't receive 100%.
• 43:55
  And then there was somebody in the comments, which, yeah, it
• 43:58
  was one person that said this, but I'm just going to pretend as
• 44:02
  though it was 100. Somebody said, so you don't know
• 44:08
  how Hall of Fame work, how Hall of Fame voting works.
• 44:11
  Got it. And I said, ah, yes, I forgot
• 44:14
  the clause that said players can't receive 100% of the vote.
• 44:16
  Thanks for reminding me. My take on this is simple.
• 44:22
  As I was saying, there's what, 3, almost 404 hundred voters?
• 44:29
  There's 394 voters. He got 393.
• 44:35
  My take on this is real simple. Do I think he should have been
• 44:38
  unanimous? Absolutely.
• 44:39
  And you want to know why? If you take 394 voters, you take
• 44:45
  him to it. Let's just say you take him to a
• 44:46
  a, a big, a big Convention Center, big wide open room.
• 44:52
  You have 394 desks laid out with a piece of paper on it, a nice
• 44:56
  sharpened crisp pencil or pen ballpoint if you choose.
• 45:00
  A nice comfy chair in case you need extra time and you're going
• 45:05
  to be there a while. I don't think you will be, but
• 45:07
  in case you are as a nice comfy chair padded on both sides, it's
• 45:12
  at A, at a cool 70°. There's a breeze coming through
• 45:18
  because I've got the doors open. There's even a popcorn vendor
• 45:21
  over on the side popping some popcorn in case you need a
• 45:23
  snack, maybe a, a, a, a container of some cool beverages
• 45:28
  that you could choose if you if you so like, you take that you,
• 45:32
  you, you sit down, you take your pen, you take your pencil, you
• 45:34
  sit down for this test. And this test has one question
• 45:38
  on it. You want to know what the
• 45:41
  question is. The question is, is Ichiro
• 45:46
  Suzuki a Hall of Famer? And there's two options on
• 45:50
  there. You want to know what those two
• 45:51
  options are? One of them is yes.
• 45:54
  The other is no. It's a private test.
• 45:58
  You're not. This isn't a group think
• 46:00
  activity. This isn't like a hey, let's
• 46:02
  collaborate, let's get a message board going, let's show our
• 46:05
  work. You're sitting there, you're
• 46:07
  taking a test with one question on it.
• 46:12
  And the question is, is Ichiro a Hall of Famer, Yes or no?
• 46:17
  There should be 394 yeses coming back to the the the test Proctor
• 46:25
  in that Convention Center. When those 394 tests get turned
• 46:28
  in, he shouldn't even have to bother looking because they
• 46:32
  should all be yeses. So spare me the whole, we talked
• 46:36
  about this before. Spare me the whole, well, I'm
• 46:38
  going to, I'm going to save my vote for somebody that needs it.
• 46:41
  Is the guy a Hall of Famer or not?
• 46:46
  Is the guy a Hall of Famer or not?
• 46:48
  We've also, you can go ahead and spare me the whole, well, we got
• 46:51
  to keep the, the, the sacred element of it.
• 46:54
  And not, nobody deserves to be unanimous because that would be
• 46:57
  against the, the, the integrity of the sport.
• 46:59
  That would go against the competitive nature of the sport,
• 47:02
  whatever that means. Is Ichiro Hall of Famer?
• 47:06
  There should be 394 yeses. He should be unanimous because
• 47:10
  if you watched any part of his career, you would know that he's
• 47:13
  Hall of Famer. He had a Hall of Fame career
• 47:15
  after spending what, almost a decade in Japan where he
• 47:22
  combined over what, over 4000 hits?
• 47:27
  And I understand that that's what, that, that was his game.
• 47:30
  But how you can, how you can have the, the arrogance to sit
• 47:37
  there and say, no, I want to pass.
• 47:40
  I, I, I don't understand it. And I, I, I, I.
• 47:43
  It's just further evidence that the Hall is growing as a just
• 47:50
  joke. Ultimately, the system sucks
• 47:53
  man. By the way, you should write a
• 47:55
  book. Really set the tone there.
• 47:58
  I tried. I really like laying laying the
• 48:01
  setting the scene. Yeah, you really did.
• 48:05
  Yeah, Just the system's just broke, man.
• 48:07
  Like there's, there's no other way around it.
• 48:09
  These riders, the ego of these guys is just unbearable and it
• 48:22
  doesn't make any sense, man. Like I think nothing against
• 48:29
  Billy Wagner and nothing against CC.
• 48:33
  There's Hall of Farmers and then there's altered the game.
• 48:40
  Hall of Farmers. Ichiro changed everything,
• 48:48
  changed it all and was the first Japanese player to to do it.
• 48:56
  Man, Like it's, it's wild. I don't know, I don't get it,
• 49:03
  but whatever. I don't I I'm kind of out on the
• 49:06
  percentages, to be honest with you.
• 49:08
  It's just, it's not really anything that I'm, I'm going to
• 49:11
  get too heated about anymore. He's in a homer's a Homer,
• 49:16
  right? Whether it goes 3:15 or or five
• 49:19
  O 5, it's out, It's gone. So all famer's all Famer.
• 49:28
  But yeah, writers are just they're dopey, man.
• 49:31
  They're this is a joke. I'd I can't even pay attention
• 49:34
  to it anymore. There's a comment on Facebook
• 49:41
  that sort of is what stemmed my my little rant earlier, just a
• 49:47
  minute ago or was related to it. But he said, here's my take.
• 49:54
  You can argue any of those players being and this was in
• 49:57
  response to the post I put out sort of a recycled post that I
• 50:01
  put out each year just as a reminder for for people to let
• 50:05
  or to remind you who wasn't like the some of the names that
• 50:08
  weren't unanimous in baseball history.
• 50:10
  Ken Griffey, Junior, Tom Seaver, Hank Aaron, Tony Gwynn, Randy
• 50:15
  Johnson, Babe Ruth, Ricky Henderson, Willie Mays, Ted
• 50:18
  Williams, Roberto Clemente. I, I, I swear every time I read
• 50:23
  that list, it just makes my blood boil.
• 50:25
  I'm like, I don't what, what are we even doing anymore?
• 50:28
  But he said, he said, here's my take.
• 50:29
  You can argue any of those players being better than
• 50:32
  another Ruth over Griffey, Ricky over Ted or whatever, but
• 50:37
  there's no one you can argue who is better than MO.
• 50:40
  And that's why it was 100% to which I responded, I get that.
• 50:46
  But my point is, would you look at someone like Ted Williams and
• 50:49
  say, no, he's not a Hall of Famer?
• 50:51
  Sure, he may not be the best, but when he's on your ballot and
• 50:55
  you have the choice of selecting yes or no, it's a simple answer.
• 50:59
  So again, it goes back to my point is like, we need to stop
• 51:02
  looking at this as like a ranking system.
• 51:05
  Is the person a Hall of Famer or not?
• 51:09
  And if you have somebody who 99.99 repeating percent of the
• 51:15
  world agrees is and you've got that one person who's like, I
• 51:19
  just don't see it. That person I saw an idea early
• 51:23
  on social that I'm a huge fan of should be relegated to some
• 51:26
  other level of sports journalism.
• 51:28
  Because you don't belong in the hall.
• 51:30
  Yeah, yeah, man, it's fair. Like I said, dude, change the
• 51:34
  game. So super happy for all three of
• 51:38
  these guys. Each row was just smack dab in
• 51:44
  the middle of our childhood and you know, and all of us
• 51:49
  practiced standing there with a wiffle ball bat pulling the
• 51:54
  sleeve. We I mean, it was incredible to
• 51:57
  see his his style that no one else had that I don't think
• 52:03
  anyone else will ever be able to repeat a ridiculous defender on
• 52:11
  top of that, just a just a a monumental name.
• 52:19
  And we're officially getting old.
• 52:22
  We're officially getting there to where we're watching guys
• 52:27
  that, you know, we grew up, we grew up watching get into the
• 52:31
  Hall of Fame. But I don't know my man CC
• 52:37
  that's big, that's big time, literally.
• 52:41
  I love. No, I'm just kidding.
• 52:42
  He's he's slimmed down. He's taking care of himself.
• 52:44
  He. The second he got done the
• 52:47
  second. Immediately, immediately.
• 52:49
  Did you catch the video? Him chilling in his in his
• 52:52
  living room when he got the call, surrounded by people.
• 52:55
  Yeah, man, it's, it's, it's cool to see even the guys that know
• 52:59
  that they're pretty much going to get in.
• 53:01
  It's cool to still like you can be Ichiro, for example.
• 53:06
  You can be sitting there knowing that you're going to get in, but
• 53:10
  I just have to imagine, obviously, I don't know, but I
• 53:12
  would have to imagine that it still doesn't sink in until that
• 53:18
  phone rings and you're like, this is really happening.
• 53:21
  And you see that with all these guys.
• 53:23
  And it's even, it's even more so for guys like Billy Wagner who
• 53:27
  were, who were waiting and waiting and waiting and you
• 53:30
  finally get the call and you're like, man.
• 53:33
  That one, that one's got to feel the sweetest thing.
• 53:36
  Oh my goodness. Like you, you look at that and
• 53:38
  you go, I might not be, I might not be Ichiro, I might not even
• 53:41
  be CC Sabathia in certain respects, but I'm in the same,
• 53:46
  I'm in the same club as them. I'm in the same fraternity as
• 53:51
  those guys and that's got to be an awesome feeling.
• 53:53
  Yeah, yeah. We can sit here and talk numbers
• 53:57
  for these guys all day, but I don't know how much it matters,
• 54:02
  You know, Hall of Fame's Hall of Fame, just incredible ground
• 54:07
  breaking frontier leading guys and super, super happy for all
• 54:16
  three of them getting in and cool class.
• 54:21
  You know, I like that. I like the smaller classes for
• 54:23
  some reason. It just hits a little different.
• 54:26
  So any guys I put you on the spot here, I don't know if you
• 54:30
  got any notes on it, Any guys that are off the ballot that are
• 54:33
  didn't get enough votes? Any guys that just didn't make
• 54:37
  it that we're we're done talking about?
• 54:43
  Let's see here I did have that. Andrew Jones was sort of on the
• 54:48
  outside looking in. But in terms of falling off the
• 54:51
  ballot completely, we've got Carlos Gonzalez, Curtis
• 54:56
  Granderson, Adam Jones, Ian Kinsler, Russell Martin, Brian
• 55:00
  McCann, Hanley Ramirez, Fernando Rodney, Troy Tulowitzki and Ben
• 55:04
  Zobrist. A.
• 55:06
  Lot of guys that were their first time on the ballot, which
• 55:10
  is tough. Regarding Speaking of first
• 55:14
  ballot next year, Cole Hamels, Ryan Braun and Matt Kemp are
• 55:20
  three names that will be joining next year.
• 55:23
  I don't know if I can get there with those 3.
• 55:26
  I sure can't. Yeah, any, any memories around
• 55:33
  those three guys? I mean I got to see pretty cool
• 55:36
  seeing CC throws 3000 strikeouts.
• 55:39
  Oh, around the three guys I got in, I was like I.
• 55:40
  Had Chase Field. Couldn't tell you much about
• 55:42
  Ryan Braun in terms of any particular heartfelt memories I
• 55:46
  have. I mean, honestly, my, my memory
• 55:50
  with, with CC is, is you, like you said, going, being able to,
• 55:54
  being able to catch that. That was awesome.
• 55:57
  I mean, that's, that's insane. And then that run he went on
• 56:02
  with, with Milwaukee when he got brought in, I mean, to, to be
• 56:06
  able to do what he did. You want to talk about a horse?
• 56:09
  Oh my goodness, You're you're not going to.
• 56:12
  You don't see that anymore, and you won't.
• 56:14
  See that anymore? Unbelievable.
• 56:17
  That was awesome. Yeah, man, I I don't know, I
• 56:20
  just, it's a sweet spot for me. Dude, like obviously he's a
• 56:24
  Yankees fan. Like he, he's just, he's always
• 56:27
  advocated for guys. He's always advocated for
• 56:29
  players. Just a ton of swag.
• 56:33
  Jordan guy supports all the good stuff and, and you know, had a
• 56:39
  little bit of a rough patch personally and came through it.
• 56:43
  But I don't, I mean, between, between the two things, I would,
• 56:50
  I would say the biggest two things are when, when he was
• 56:55
  playing the Rays and it was his last start of the season and he
• 57:00
  was about to reach, I think it was 150 innings or something
• 57:03
  like that. It's for a bonus.
• 57:05
  It was like 500 Ki think wasn't. It it was like to reach a bonus
• 57:09
  that was like a good chunk and he retaliated off of one of his
• 57:15
  guys getting hit the inning prior and hit a ray and got
• 57:19
  tossed and only needed that half inning to get over the hump.
• 57:23
  But then screaming at the Rays dugout like just a big old
• 57:29
  freaking grizzly bear dude like. 500K.
• 57:32
  One of the coolest guys, man. Good teammate, I bet.
• 57:36
  And yeah, and then the other one, just like his arm blown
• 57:41
  out. And that was his last time on
• 57:43
  the mound, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, when he all the
• 57:47
  interviews afterwards where they ask him, they're like, hey, do
• 57:49
  you like it's on an interview? You're like, do you miss
• 57:51
  anything? He's like, no, I don't miss
• 57:53
  anything. I don't miss playing.
• 57:55
  I. Mean if you're going to go out,
• 57:56
  literally go out. That's the way to go dude.
• 57:59
  Like literally leaving every I I can't, my body doesn't allow me
• 58:04
  to do this anymore. It's crazy.
• 58:06
  So what a champ man, what a horse to the end.
• 58:09
  Exciting for him. And then he, well, Ichiro, when
• 58:12
  he was with Miami, obviously being in the division up here
• 58:18
  with the Nats, he he made his way up here a handful of times.
• 58:22
  If for some reason, I feel like I would always catch them
• 58:25
  playing the Marlins whenever I would go around that time.
• 58:27
  Yeah. So I got to catch.
• 58:29
  I mean, I, I called him a handful of times up here and
• 58:31
  he'd he'd be just, just vintage Ichiro this long strides and
• 58:37
  yeah, lanky way. I think I I think I caught him
• 58:43
  getting like a stand up triple in Coors Field when he was in
• 58:46
  Marlin. Tracks.
• 58:48
  I yeah, I think I caught him doing that, which was which was
• 58:52
  sick. Yeah, dude, just on and he was
• 58:56
  like 40, like stand up triple, just gliding.
• 59:03
  I don't, I don't know. It's hard for me to like sit
• 59:05
  back and have like incredible memories about Billy Wagner.
• 59:08
  I know he's a stud and you know, I think there's like an era of
• 59:15
  relievers that were just incredible that everything's
• 59:22
  kind of changed around the relief game in my mind.
• 59:25
  So a lot of these guys are like the last of their era.
• 59:30
  You know, it's it's the last. I think it's the last the last
• 59:38
  big dominant horse lefty that's going to go out and and throw
• 59:42
  that many innings and have that many strikeouts and the last hit
• 59:47
  it wherever you want line to line.
• 59:49
  I'm going to beat it out no matter where I hit it kind of
• 59:52
  guy. And and, you know, a quirky
• 59:55
  angle lefty that did his thing on the bunk to close games.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, I mean, you got to take an account to the game is rapidly
• 1:00:03
  changing. It's it's evolving.
• 1:00:05
  It's it's growing both in terms of the style and the, the, the,
• 1:00:12
  the type of player that's coming through now.
• 1:00:15
  So we're not done. I don't think scene the the the
• 1:00:20
  last of their era type guys like you.
• 1:00:22
  I mean, as long as Justin Verlander, for example, is still
• 1:00:26
  pitching in this league, you you're going to have you're
• 1:00:28
  going to have some guys that you're going to look at and go.
• 1:00:30
  Wow. I just think we're going to
• 1:00:32
  start creeping. We're going to start creeping
• 1:00:34
  into just the names. And no, for sure, I'm not
• 1:00:38
  disagreeing with you. I'm just saying and less
• 1:00:39
  numbers. You know what I mean?
• 1:00:41
  Like these guys are like, you can stare at the numbers and
• 1:00:43
  just be like, duh. And we're just eventually going
• 1:00:46
  to get to that point where like it's not so much about the
• 1:00:48
  numbers. It's like how this guy impacted
• 1:00:51
  the game and how long and how dominant he was.
• 1:00:54
  And then that I think that conversation is just going to
• 1:00:56
  get a little bit more difficult as we go because you can't
• 1:01:00
  compare what these numbers are going to look like to some of
• 1:01:04
  these guys like we saw get in today, so or yesterday.
• 1:01:08
  But any news? Good stuff, Hall of Fame.
• 1:01:12
  Bad stuff. One rider.
• 1:01:16
  Whose quote was this?
• 1:01:39
  Whose quote was this? Whose quote was this?
• 1:01:45
  Hit me, buddy. I mean, I hate to say it, but I
• 1:01:50
  think they fall right into line with the rest of the mainstream
• 1:01:53
  media out there where it's like they're going to stroke, they're
• 1:01:57
  going to soak the fire, They're going to get you riled up.
• 1:02:00
  They're going to insert their opinion where it doesn't need to
• 1:02:02
  be inserted. And then they're going to fall
• 1:02:04
  back and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're just reporting on the
• 1:02:08
  information. No, you're not.
• 1:02:11
  And this was in reference to the BBWA writers and the Hall of
• 1:02:16
  Fame. This was from episode 174 from
• 1:02:21
  January 28th 2021 titled The Hall of Fame is a Joke.
• 1:02:30
  Whose quote was this? I think this might be the first
• 1:02:33
  miss. I don't know.
• 1:02:35
  I'm going to go me first, miss.
• 1:02:51
  Tough. That's tough.
• 1:02:52
  That was me. There was not a lot of clues in
• 1:02:55
  that. Quote, I know I I intentionally
• 1:02:58
  pulled that one. I was like, you know, this, this
• 1:03:00
  could go either way. They really could have.
• 1:03:03
  It's tough. It really well, we had a, we had
• 1:03:05
  a good run. I think we were undefeated up
• 1:03:07
  until this point. So that's a good run.
• 1:03:09
  We need to, I think, just start making it more difficult.
• 1:03:11
  That was a good one. Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Good take. Still holds up Aged.
• 1:03:19
  Aged like wine, not milk. Theme song Speaking of wine, you
• 1:03:24
  can get some discounted alcohol at Camden Yards moving forward
• 1:03:28
  because the Orioles announced today, sort of closing the book
• 1:03:32
  here, sort of final, final thought, the Orioles announced
• 1:03:36
  that they are releasing what they're calling the Birdland
• 1:03:39
  Value menu where they are going to have discounted concessions
• 1:03:44
  at Canyon Yards. We're looking at a $4.00.
• 1:03:47
  I mean, discounted, I use in in air quotes because I mean, as
• 1:03:51
  long as you can get a, a hot dog and a soda for $1.50 at Costco,
• 1:03:55
  I'm going to, I'm going to look at I'm not, I'm going to look at
• 1:03:57
  things through that lens. So you're not going to you're
• 1:04:00
  not, you're not tricking me Oreos, but it's still, it's
• 1:04:03
  still worth noting. We're looking at a $4.00 hot
• 1:04:07
  dog. We're looking at nachos and
• 1:04:10
  cheese for $4.00, peanuts for 2:50, a refillable soda for 4
• 1:04:17
  bucks, select beers for five, bottled water four that still
• 1:04:22
  seems like a crime, and seltzer's for six.
• 1:04:28
  So. Not really.
• 1:04:29
  It's not a topic that we need to spend a lot of time on.
• 1:04:32
  But it was announced today, and I feel like, you know, what if,
• 1:04:34
  if, if teams are going to start doing this if you're not
• 1:04:37
  charging $20.00 for a beer and you're going to make it
• 1:04:41
  affordable. There's something, there's
• 1:04:43
  something happening here. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:04:45
  There's something happening. Separate note, I think I saw
• 1:04:49
  something like the Phoenix Suns owner came out with something
• 1:04:54
  similar to like like 9 bucks gets you nachos and a drink and
• 1:05:00
  and something else. Did this start with the Falcons?
• 1:05:03
  Is am I? Am I remembering this correctly?
• 1:05:06
  I think there's different teams that are starting to recognize
• 1:05:09
  this that like because again, you know, if you get any ticket
• 1:05:12
  worth anything, 80 bucks a pop, right?
• 1:05:19
  I mean you're not sitting anywhere near that the 20 bucks
• 1:05:22
  for parking. Yeah, I mean the the classic
• 1:05:25
  scenario family of four if you I mean if tickets and don't forget
• 1:05:29
  about the fees and all this stuff like if you go to you're
• 1:05:32
  not. Getting out for under 300 bucks
• 1:05:34
  and and. It's insane.
• 1:05:36
  Sitting without binoculars, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:38
  But shout out Orioles for doing this.
• 1:05:40
  I grew up a member of the Dugout Club, which was huge because I
• 1:05:47
  remember just getting the box you got.
• 1:05:50
  You got Nosebleed tickets? Yeah, like a wristband.
• 1:05:54
  I remember I had an Orioles batting glove and it was back
• 1:05:57
  when it was cool that Cal Ripken only wore 1 batting gloves.
• 1:06:01
  I did that and I think I got like the little, the little bat.
• 1:06:08
  I just had a memory I forgot I had the, the, the record streak
• 1:06:15
  Cal Ripken bat. It was like a little, you know,
• 1:06:18
  miniature bat. Yeah, I know exactly. 31 and
• 1:06:21
  like his face on it, yeah, yeah, good stuff.
• 1:06:27
  But it's good, it's good, 'cause, man, this is what you
• 1:06:30
  got to do. By the way, have you donated to
• 1:06:32
  the to the Yankee Fund yet to sell that bet?
• 1:06:35
  I haven't forgot. I definitely missed my.
• 1:06:38
  I think I'd set like a soft deadline for that.
• 1:06:40
  I think I said when they lose the reminders or something, but
• 1:06:44
  the. Reminded me of that.
• 1:06:46
  We'll, we'll pick a, we'll pick a day to commemorate that.
• 1:06:49
  And I'll make my, I'll make my donation.
• 1:06:51
  I thought anyway, yeah, 5050 bucks.
• 1:06:53
  I like affordable stuff, man. I like, I like being able to
• 1:06:56
  just think of the common man and good on the O's.
• 1:07:02
  Now figure out your parking situation because that was not
• 1:07:06
  easy on us parking in some sketchy spot behind a mechanic
• 1:07:11
  shop or whatever we did. Yeah, I had to leave the game
• 1:07:14
  early because we didn't know if they would let us.
• 1:07:16
  If we we got towed, yeah, because we've.
• 1:07:18
  Already gotten towed. It's like a Fleetwood Mac
• 1:07:20
  concert or something, I think. That's what it was, yeah.
• 1:07:23
  Yeah. This.
• 1:07:25
  This isn't us being kids. This was literally like 2 what,
• 1:07:29
  2 Octobers ago with ALDS versus the Rangers?
• 1:07:32
  Crazy. Anyway, that's all I got.
• 1:07:35
  Anyway, good stuff. And who's we're inching closer,
• 1:07:39
  guys, We're getting there. It's almost February before you
• 1:07:42
  know it. Pitchers and catchers will be
• 1:07:43
  reporting. I'm hoping we're going to have
• 1:07:46
  some signings, man. Like Bregman and Pete got to
• 1:07:49
  find a place. This is getting out of hand so
• 1:07:53
  soon we won't have to fill episodes with garbage, you know
• 1:07:57
  what I mean? We can start actually doing some
• 1:07:58
  stuff. And for those that are new, we
• 1:08:03
  are going to start ramping things into some fun, fun
• 1:08:07
  episodes. So I can't wait.
• 1:08:10
  It's going to be great, so buckle up.
• 1:08:12
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• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:18
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• 1:08:46
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• 1:08:52
  you that beanie yeah. It's pretty much snowing in all
• 1:08:57
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  Not here 60° today. I mean, that's basically snow in
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  Go snag a beanie. It's going to be a little chilly
• 1:09:11
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• 1:09:12
  sadly, before it starts warming up.
• 1:09:14
  So go grab a beanie, grab a hat, grab a shirt, grab a a jersey,
• 1:09:23
  and then stick around. Hang out with us.
• 1:09:26
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