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Will The Eagles Defense Turn Things Around This Season? (PST Episode 569) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Hey there, everybody, it's Jeff. I wanted to let you know that
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  we recorded this podcast episode on two separate days this week. Our interview was
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  recorded on Tuesday, June fourth, twenty twenty four. The regular part of
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  our show with Eric and I was recorded on Wednesday, June fifth, twenty
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  twenty four. So by the time you hear this, some things may have
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  changed here there, but we hope you enjoy the show. All right,
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  everybody, you're listening to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running
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  weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, eleven years strong. We got
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  a great show coming your way. I've been listing off all the topics we're
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  gonna be getting into. I just don't feel like doing it right now.
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  Oh, Jeff Warren, And I'm here with my buddy Eric Leonard, my
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  buddy Eric Leonard, who is now going to be employed. Congratulations buddy,
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  Thanks Bud. Yeah, today late this afternoon that I'm going to be employed
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  in a few weeks. And man, I'm tired of feeling useless. So
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  what do you mean you got this podcast once every two weeks, right,
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  Honestly, one of those things I look forward to the podcast running au basketball
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  practice, and then you look at rest your calendar you're like, oh,
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  man, I am this is pathetic. I have nothing going on. Dennis's
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  appointments. Yeah, I told Jeff before the show. I discovered that weird,
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  the weird feeling of having appointments during the day at like nine o'clock in
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  the morning, a DNIS appointment, and then you go to it, you're
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  done it, nine forty five and you'll leave and you're like, that's it.
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  That's all I have today. I'm seventy five result of my day's time.
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  That's all I had. You know, maybe you can go to you
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  know, the local donut shop, you know, you pick up a donut
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  or something and say, oh, you know, I'm gonna have a treat
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  today. Go down into VFW, talk the other WW two vets, you
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  know, talking war stories. I guess yeah, I remember back in the
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  day when it happened. Was that World War two? Or like the Old
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  West? I'm not sure that was the Old West? What I was just
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  doing right there, Jesus, we do have a great show, though.
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  We are going to be getting into some interesting topics here. First and foremost,
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  there is there's there's fatigue, there's entertainment fatigue that is hit at least
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  here in the United States and perhaps throughout the world as well. We're gonna
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  talk about that entertainment fatigue and how it may translate over into the sports world.
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  We got a new top three list coming your way. It's our top
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  three. I wouldn't be surprised if in the world of Philly sports blank happened
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  here in twenty twenty. For from there, we're gonna get into some Caitlin
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  Clark talk because boy storylines is past week, Yes they are plentiful. And
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  then we've got some Phillies talk to specifically how this organization has really been gauging
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  the international baseball market. There was an article recently and that Balls out of
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  Here dot com site that we'd like to go to every now and again.
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  I'm gonna get into that topic. And then what we're throwing down on the
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  table this week, We've got lou Debiassi from the Lockdown Eagles podcast is gonna
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  join us to talk about some of these Eagles offseason storylines that we've been following
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  and just where this team is heading into training camp next month. So Eric,
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  let's get started on an article that I read In one of my daily
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  emails that I get every morning, it's called Morning Brew, and I'm reading
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  this article about why musicians are canceling their summer shows more and more, and
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  specifically, the article talked about Jennifer Lopez as Bad Bunny the Black Keys,
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  among some major musical artists who have canceled some summer concert dates or an entire
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  tour Like j Lo. Did she shut down her This is Me Live tour
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  of North America that was slated for this summer. Apparently she'd been struggling to
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  sell some tickets as far back as March. But I wonder how from an
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  entertainment perspective, this may trickle down, perhaps to the sports world. We're
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  not seeing it with the Philadelphia Phillies, because the Philadelphia Phillies are selling out
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  every freaking game basically at this point, and for good reason. They're the
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  best team in baseball. But I think it's interesting how as we have come
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  out of the pandemic of twenty twenty twenty twenty one, and how we were
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  clamoring. I remember the first show you and I went to Lamba Gods show
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  down in Camden. It was the first show that we had seen together coming
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  out of the pandemic, and how wonderful it was folks clamoring for entertainment because
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  of being locked in their houses for such a long period of time. And
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  I think we may be getting to the point where there was so much in
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  twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, that things are
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  slowing down a little bit. Ticket prices are extremely high for concerts in general,
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  and for even sporting events as well. I mean, gosh, I
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  remember when you took your son to see the seventy six ers this past year.
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  It was a ton of money from what you told me, just just
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  for both of you. So I think it's an interesting topic that we're seeing
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  it. We're seeing the entertainment world I think perhaps maybe gonna be going through
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  some changes here and how that relates to the sports world too. So I
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  don't know if you had any thoughts on it, buddy, A bunch of
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  thoughts, because I'm you and I are both concert people show people. Yeah,
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  And just my initial thought was you look at the amount the cost of
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  the tickets for the shows, especially the artists that were had to cancel their
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  tours for the most part, just astronomical, like just how much you had
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  to pay. But that's that's not exclusive to them though. There's a lot
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  of really expensive artists out there selling out arenas everywhere, Taylor Swift being an
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  obvious one. I just think of myself personally, and man, give me
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  a Phillies game for twenty four dollars a ticket, Give me a show at
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  Philamocha. We saw Soul Blind a year and a half ago. That was
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  twelve bucks apiece. We just saw Pig Destroyer in Harrisburg for twenty apiece and
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  I had a great night. Idn't have to spend one hundred and fifty bucks
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  on a ticket. But that's just me right as a kind of music.
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  I like the kind of scene. But what struck me about the the article
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  was, you know, Olivia Rodrigo, Morgan Wallin is the guy's name,
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  rights country bumpkin guy. Whatever they're doing all right, they're doing great,
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  you know, because they're the hot young artists right now in their perspective genres.
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  But what's what jumped out of me was like hooting the Blowfish Dave Matthews
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  band. I'm sure you could throw Bruce Springsteing in there. If Paul McCartney
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  decided to tour again or the Rolling Stones bon jo I watched the bon Jovie
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  documentary on Hulu, you know, and they were coming back, you know
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  this past year, just selling out places constantly. Yeah, like they those
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  bands don't have to worry about canceling shows or any tours because they just they
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  have a firm set, like like fan base in place. Hooting the Blowfishes
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  wasn't the biggest band of all time, but they they kind of they kind
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  of walked between the line of like nostalgia and having one of the biggest records
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  of the nineties. Right. Yeah, they could probably tour for the next
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  thirty years until they die and they can make plenty of money. And Rodrigo
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  and Wallen are like the young up and comers, and they could sell it
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  kind of along the lines close to like Taylor Swift, but the the artist
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  I had to cancel, like I'll throw it to you. Like. My
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  one thought was do they have an actual fan base or are they just famous?
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  And now the Blackkis don't quite apply. I'll admit fully, I was
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  a huge Black Keys fan. First three records back in the day. I
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  went and saw them back in my back in two thousand and five. Okay,
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  that's how far back I am and how old I am. Saw of
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  the TLA many times and it was like, what a thousand people maybe,
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  And they were one of those rock bands that kind of broke out. But
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  if you don't reach the if you don't reach the heights of like the Foo
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  Fighters, right, it's the only probably the one rock band I could think
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  of that could sell out. I mean a Red Hot Chili Peppers, right.
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  The Black Keys will never reach that level, not even close. And
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  they were trying to unleash a Food Fighters type tour when they don't have that
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  kind of fan base. They were not at that level ever, And I
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  think a bad Bunny. I think at Jennifer Lopez. Do they have die
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  hard fans or they just famous people. This is really interesting because a word
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  came to mind, and I don't mean this word in any disparaging way,
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  folks, when I say it about whether we're talking about Jennifer Lopez, bad
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  Bunny, even the Black Keys, relevance like relevance within your genre of music,
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  relevance with the fan base that you're talking about, the relevance of staying
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  true to that fan base where you keep them, and you continue to keep
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  them year after year, album after album, hit after hit. That relevance.
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  I don't know if Jennifer Lopez actually has that, because, like you
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  said, she is, I mean, she's extremely famous. You know,
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  she's she's had a husband who she's it's they're a very famous couple. But
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  in terms of her music and it's relevance, like maybe it was relevant for
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  somebody. I remember one of my old coworkers at one of my old jobs
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  absolutely loved her because she was she was from the Bronx. There was a
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  relatable thing. But I actually was hanging out with this old coworker recently at
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  an event and we were talking about music actually, and not once did she
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  ever mention j Lo. Not once did she ever mention the fact that she
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  was going to be going on tour this summer and maybe she would like to
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  go see her. And it's really interesting you bring this up, Eric,
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  because the relevancy I think is not very prevalent when it comes to Jennifer Lopez,
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  Bad Bunny and the Black Keys here, So it's really interesting. They
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  have some fans, but not a fan base that is going to be able
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  to perpetuate a monumental music career. Yeah, I'll go step further. You
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  know, whether you like the Food Fighters or not readout Chili Peppers, they'll
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  be remembered. Yeah, like twenty thirty years from now, they will be
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  absolutely be remembered. Dave Matthew's band will be remembered. Even Whoding and Blowfish
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  will be remembered. They're famous in their own right, in their own musical
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  genre. Jlo's music, Bad Bunny, even the Black Keys, they'll be
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  forgotten like that. It's it's I think it's forgettable music. That's just my
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  taste. Art is art. You like what you like, yep. But
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  I think when you add the the element of fame and it kind of overtakes
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  what they do on stage musically, and then you add on top of that,
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  you're going to charge me two hundred fifty dollars a ticket. I wanted
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  to get to that, yeah, exactly to come watch a famous person do
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  music. Yes, Like I'm not I'm not going for their music, like
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  I'm going for the scene. I'm going for what people are wearing. What
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  it turns into an influencer. Everyone's taking selfies right that. That happens to
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  Taylor Swift shows. I'm sure happens to Rodrigo and Wallan shows, but there's
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  just a's just a holinist to it, because they are so famous, and
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  I think that the music, the music's almost secondary to their to their their
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  their stance, or their their their where they are in the the famous world.
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  Hell yeah, no, it's great. It's a great point and that
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  I wanted to get to that next point of might this trickle down to this
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  this this idea? May it trickle down to the sports world too. We're
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  talking about how people don't want to pay perhaps five hundred dollars to see j
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  Low or maybe one hundred and seventy five dollars to see the Black Keys.
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  I don't know what the prices were for the tickets. Perhaps they don't want
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  to see them for that cost. And I wonder if with certain sports teams,
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  especially here in Philadelphia as well, if we could potentially see that in
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  the future. I'm talking about the Philadelphia Flyers seventy six ers, where this
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  team goes during the offseason. I do think, you know, tickets are
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  still going to sell at the Wells Fargo Center for the Sixers, but you
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  see with other teams throughout the sports world where you know, for instance,
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  I mean Pittsburgh Pirates games. I mean, I remember when those tickets were
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  really, really low, but you're coming out of the pandemic, stuff got
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  a little higher. People needed to make money because they had lost money.
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  A lot of sports organizations knew that they needed to raise ticket prices, and
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  we saw that a decent amount. And I wonder if the sports world is
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  going to kind of suffer from this as well, because certain teams organizations just
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  aren't as relevant in the sports world as they're coming out of this pandemic still,
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  And did these venues that are putting these shows on get a little greedy,
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  Yeah, and try to find famous people to try to fill the seats
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  at their place place of business. And I think they is a miscalculation.
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  I can speak highly to The Black Kies are an easy one. Like I
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  don't know who their manager is, I don't know what their management system is.
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  Man, did they they miscalculated badly? Like that band hasn't had a
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  record out in years, and they thought they're going to go fill arenas after
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  like five years off. Yeah, and you were never that gigantic. You
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  had some hit songs, man, But like, I don't know what the
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  hell they were trying to do? What a horror Like, why not take
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  like the route of like say, drive by truckers, go do some two
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  thousand seat places, three thousand seat whatever it is, and then maybe do
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  like the based on that, like rebuild your career kind of post pandemic.
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  Not that they were like in the in the gutter, but it just didn't
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  make sense to me. And to me, it's like there was too much
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  greed on the venue side, too much greed on the band management side,
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  and it turned into a complete disaster. They look like fools now. Yeah,
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  But I don't think it's gonna I don't think it's going to seep into
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  the sports world too much, just because I think the regular fans have been
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  pretty much priced out as it is. Like I told you about me and
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  Vinnie going to see the Sixers, and it was like, man, we
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  dropped like a thousand dollars just the two of us between like transportation, food,
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  hotel, and having really good seats. But I can't do that every
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  other night through that that's not and and and it's this is an off topic,
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  but it's absolutely affected sports in general, Like the home court advantage in
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  basketball, the home field advantage of baseball. You see it like in the
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  playoffs and stuff, but in regular season games, fans like me are kind
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  of priced out. You got dudes in suits or dudes in like shirt and
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  ties that bought the jersey at the arena put it over the shirt and tie,
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  and you're like, what a dork you're not? You have a nice
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  golf outing and you went to a game and like half the players like unfortunately
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  that that that that's already like on course, like the they've already priced out
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  the normal fan. I don't. I can't imagine it gets much worse,
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  But oh I can. I think, yeah, true, I know,
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  I know, but my god, And we'll see what happens when the Clippers
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  open their new arena. What that's gonna look like when you really think it's
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  gonna be like hardcore l A sports fans at those games, right, my
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  god, like the dude from Microsoft owns the team is going to like see
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  Bomber is going to price everybody out that can't pay a thousand dollars a night
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  for a ticket. But it's I had seen that those those artists have already
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  started to cancel they're not just show like little shows here and there, but
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  entire tours. And then for Jayla to blame it on like you know,
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  our potential marriage stuff, and it's like, no, the family just to
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  see you exact people don't want to conect to see you. It's an interesting
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  topic for sure. We'd love to hear from you, Philadelphia Sports Table at
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  gmail dot com. Let us know what you're thinking about this, and we'd
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  love to read your email here in the show and respond to it. Let's
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  move along here with the show and get into our new top three list.
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  It's our top three. I wouldn't be surprised if in the world of Philly
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  sports blank happened here in two thousand and twenty four. Eric, what's your
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  number three here that you wouldn't be surprised if it happened here in the world
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  of Philly sports. Okay, I'm gonna start positive. I mean, knock
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  on wood right now. You know they'rey good, playing, freaking awesome.
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  Would not be surprised the Phillies won the World Series, all right. They
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  They are an absolute juggernaut right now. And it's not it's not the stars
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  like I'm not talking about Bryce Harper is who he is, and Nick Castellano's
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  had a huge hit last night, the one that they won the game two
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  to one against the Brewers. Not talking about that on top of the guy
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  like I'm talking about Sosa stepping in, you know and bat in three oh
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  eight in Trey Turner's absence, talking about Sanchez stepping up and just being an
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  a in asen spots. You know, I'm not talking Suarez and Wheeler and
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  Nola. I'm talking like the guys stepping up. It's that kind of stuff.
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  It's like, Wow, this team is for real, you know,
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  and they deserve the best record in baseball. Alec Baum was awesome last night.
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  He's been awesome all season. It's just it's a little things about this
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  team that make me feel like this is not it. This is not an
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  early season Fluke. I'm sure they're gonna like they're gonna They're gonna trail off
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  a little bit here. There's no way to be that hot and not gonna
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  win hundred twenty games whin the World Series. But they have stepped up.
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  Rob Thompson has them, has all the non key players playing really well.
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  And that's the kind of thing It jumps out to me about a team like
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  this and the bullpen of solid. They still have moves to make. I
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  would not be surprised they won the World Series and had like the best record
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  in baseball. It just feels like that kind of season right now. It
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  really feels like that. That's the vibes right now at this point. I
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  mean, if you had to say who the World Series was going to be
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  right here at starting June, it'd be the Phillies and it'd be the Yankees.
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  Man, I mean, what a World Series that would be at this
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  point. And it is hard to argue that at this particular point in time
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  that the Phillies just wouldn't take it to the Yankees, given that everything is
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  running on all cylinders. I'm going to get to that in my list in
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  a little bit here. So for me, my number three and Buddy,
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  I know you probably aren't going to be able to talk too too much about
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  this, but Flyers, maybe it is. Yes, Yes, I wouldn't
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  be surprised. Well, here's the thing I said, if this happened in
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  twenty twenty four, technically be twenty twenty five, But I wouldn't be surprised
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  if in the world of Philly Sports. The Philadelphia Flyers get to the playoffs
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  next season at the start of twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season, it
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  should say, ending the two thousand and the end of that season. In
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  twenty twenty five, they get to the playoffs and make a bit of a
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  run. I would not be surprised by that at all, given the fact
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  that, yes, the team is still in a rebuild. They were potentially
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  going to get to the playoffs this past season until they had a major slide.
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  There's a lot of energy on this Flyers team, and the pieces are
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  being put into place during this rebuild. Well, we're figuring out, the
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  coaches are figuring out, the organization's figuring out who is going to be the
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  next generation of leaders, who is who is playing to which strengths on the
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  ice, And it just wouldn't surprise me if the Flyers, given the bark
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  of this past season, pushes them and gives them some momentum, even more
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  momentum I think this coming year to say, you know what, we can
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  do this. Everybody counted us out, everybody's going to continue to count us
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  out. We're gonna We're gonna get through this and we're gonna get to the
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  fucking playoffs and we're gonna make a little bit of a run. So that
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  that's that's my first one. I don't know if you have much to say
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  response to that, because it's Flyers, but well, I'll say this.
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  They're a young team and it usually takes a spark season to kind of cap
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  off, yeah, or to kind of kick off a big season. And
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  they, excuse me, they played really well this year. They hadn't that
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  that slide, it probably would have made the playoffs, and god knows,
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  maybe they make a run this year. Who knows. But we're also at
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  the point with this team that like it is so oberdue. Yes, my
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  god, it's like, when's the last time they made any sort of run.
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  It's twenty like a real run, it's been it's been a long time.
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  Yes, Well, what's your what's your number two? Here? What
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  is your number two? So my my number two is one that could could
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  sneak into twenty twenty five as well. But I'm going to go off of
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  the potential of a bad offseason for the Sixers and my my, I'm gonna
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  go negative my next two. Okay, So you wouldn't be surprised if in
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  the world of Philly sports this happened in twenty twenty four and Be'd asked for
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  a trade. Ah. Yeah, I had a feeling you might be saying
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  that one. So all the talk is Paul George is gonna come and we'll
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  have a big three of George, Maxi and and then Be which basketball wise,
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  Holy shit, does that make sense? Man? What a great three
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  pairing that would be. And you just mix and shooters and good defenders around
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  them and get a real point guard as well. Awesome if they could do
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  it. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm not sure why PG
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  three or thirteen whatever his name is. Uh, would he'd be eaving a
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  situation He's like, I'm sick of this Kawhi Leonard guy being hurt all the
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  time. I'm going to go to another team where the guy's hurt all the
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  time. Any as well? Like, why would he do that? I
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  think a lot of six Ers fans I think he's it's like a done deal.
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  It's going to happen. I don't. I don't really see it myself.
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  And if they just go into next season and sign a bunch of like
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  Kelly ubres I love Kelly Ubray. Kelly Eubra ain't going to get you the
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  finals. He can't be your third best player. Yeah. I just feel
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  like if they don't have a great offseason, they don't bring all this talent
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  in with all the cap space they have, and say they start out like,
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  you know, twelve and thirty or something, twelve and twenty five,
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  they're just having an off season and he looks and me looks sluggish, and
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  he's not happy, and Maxi's scorn all the points, like I could not
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  shock me. By end of December, I went out trade me. I
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  want to move on. I could say it, I could see it there.
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  There is a path to that you just outlined. It a crappy offseason
• 23:03
  and at but it leads me to believe that they then have to get they
• 23:07
  have to get Paul George. And my gosh, how many times is Lennon
• 23:10
  and I talking about Paul George. I've talked with other folks on here about
• 23:14
  Paul George too, and it's like, I'm honestly, I'm not like that
• 23:17
  excited if it were to happen. I mean, it might be cold.
• 23:19
  Mean, it's gonna be cool in some ways, but like I don't know,
• 23:23
  the guy's no spring Chicken here, and that that's the funny part was
• 23:29
  I was all pumped up about it, and then I brought I pulled up
• 23:32
  his basketball reference page on my phone. I'm like, holy shit, this
• 23:36
  is like his fifteenth year. Yes, he's like thirty four years old,
• 23:41
  Like what the hell happened? Like when did that happen? Like holy Signing
• 23:45
  him is not guarantee a title or anything, but it probably guarantees the commitment
• 23:52
  you showed to him that you want to win right to him, being's say
• 23:55
  yes. But if it doesn't happen, like I said, they just kind
• 23:59
  of sprinkle in veterans and some decent players. It's like you're walking a tight
• 24:03
  rope of him wanting the hell out of Philadelphia. So yeah, I do
• 24:07
  think at some point, and we're going to talk about this more over the
• 24:10
  course of the summer during this offseason, I think Darryl Morey may actually make
• 24:12
  a trade with somebody that we don't even know, that's not even on our
• 24:15
  radar at this point. Well, and Jeff, I think Maury knows that
• 24:19
  too. I think Moury knows, and beat is is is like one inch
• 24:25
  away from going I want out of here. Yeah, this isn't working,
• 24:27
  even though he's responsible for all this shit in beat for the whole fucking process
• 24:33
  at this point. But I think he knows, like I'm so close to
• 24:37
  him wanting out, I need. I have to nail this offseason. Yep,
• 24:41
  all right, Well my number two is we're moving along here deals with
• 24:45
  the Philadelphia Eagles, and it maybe it may sound a little bizarre. I'm
• 24:49
  gonna be talking about the linebacker position middle of the field from the defensive standpoint
• 24:55
  with our guest Lou Dibiassi in a little bit, but with the Philadelphia Eagles,
• 25:00
  it wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles linebackers are better than expected this coming
• 25:06
  year. And yes, we haven't seen much from Nakobe Dean because he has
• 25:11
  been injured during his entire tenure on this team. But I have I have
• 25:17
  this thing in the back of my mind where the right inside linebacker coming in
• 25:21
  Devin White, who is acquired during free agency, also Zach Bond as well,
• 25:26
  and you know where they're gonna. I mean, Nolan Smith is basically
• 25:30
  going to be a pass rusher, but I mean Vic Fangio. He may
• 25:33
  have him dropping into coverage every now and then. I think that this is
• 25:37
  a it's still a young group who has a very very high ceiling, and
• 25:41
  it would not surprise me if this Eagles linebacker corps this year really raises some
• 25:47
  eyebrows and really surprises us. And I think if Nikobe Dean actually does stay
• 25:52
  healthy, I think he's gonna show us something too, because regardless of his
• 25:55
  injuries, he's still been learning. He's still been learning with these players and
• 25:57
  this defense. I have some high hopes for this Eagles linebacker corps here.
• 26:03
  Eric, I'm glad you do. Listen when they when they drafted Dean,
• 26:08
  wasn't like the injury thing always on the table. Yeah. Yeah, So
• 26:12
  I'm not surprised that that's gone, that that's kind of going to come to
• 26:17
  fruition a little bit, but it kind of get better. You know,
• 26:19
  they haven't good they haven't had a good set of linebackers since they won the
• 26:23
  Super Bowl. Yep, back in twenty seventeen. T J. Edwards was
• 26:26
  great, I mean, but they they had to let him go in free
• 26:29
  agency. They weren't going to pay him and stuff, and he's he actually
• 26:32
  has turned out to be a pretty good linebacker, even for the Chicago Bears,
• 26:36
  and they haven't had a They did not have a legit defensive coordinator last
• 26:40
  year, So maybe maybe the addition of a Fangio could reignite the linebacking corp.
• 26:47
  My last one, yeah ties into that. And if the linebacking corps
• 26:51
  fails and the Eagles kind of kind of don't have a good start to the
• 26:56
  season, yeah, I wouldn't be shocked, Nick Sirian, he gets fired.
• 27:00
  Oh man, now that one might that one might leak into twenty twenty
• 27:04
  five as well. But man, the moves they made, Like they signed
• 27:10
  Saquon they have, They lock up their two receivers for a shit ton of
• 27:14
  money. They're paying their quarterback already, Like once you start paying guys.
• 27:18
  If if the if the coach can't make them win, the gm A getting
• 27:22
  fired, Yeah right, Like he ain't going anywhere, The owner ain't going
• 27:26
  anywhere. You're the only one left. They hired new coordinators all over the
• 27:30
  place. You're the only one left in the previous regime. So if this
• 27:33
  doesn't work and they are like, give me a record like five and six
• 27:41
  and they're floundering, right, yeah, who's on chopping block. It's it's
• 27:45
  gonna be no one else can get rid of. So I don't think they
• 27:48
  would do it during the season. But if things go really south and this
• 27:52
  whole thing implodes, him getting fired is probably I don't think I'm I don't
• 27:57
  think I'm like speaking out turn like that. He It could. It could
• 28:02
  absolutely happen if this doesn't go well, I'll tell you unless the defense absolutely
• 28:07
  shits the bed week after week after week, which which they did last year
• 28:11
  at the end of they did. But Vic Fangio, because he's Vic Fangio,
• 28:15
  is not getting fired. Kellen Moore coming over from the Chargers, but
• 28:19
  with the Dallas Cowboys for all those years and beloved in that particular town and
• 28:26
  just what he has meant to the NFC's division. I don't think he's getting
• 28:29
  fired either. I think you make a really good point here. You're not
• 28:32
  firing Howie. No, you're not firing. You're not firing Jalen. You
• 28:36
  know, firing the receivers. Right, there's just one guy left to fire,
• 28:38
  and he's the one. So all right, I like it. Well,
• 28:42
  my number one, we're gonna go back to the Philadelphia Phillies here,
• 28:45
  buddy, because look, as as much as I love the season, we're
• 28:49
  gonna remember this season for a very long time, I think. But it
• 28:55
  wouldn't surprise me. It would not surprise me here in twenty twenty four,
• 29:00
  within this Philly season if the Phillies started to slide after the All Star Game.
• 29:04
  And I say this because not from necessarily an offensive standpoint. This bullpen
• 29:11
  is fucking incredible. And we haven't seen too too many incredible bullpens down at
• 29:18
  Citizens Bank Park and beyond, and holy shit, part of me says,
• 29:23
  they just can't keep it up. They just can't keep up this dominance,
• 29:27
  for God's say. And I'm just talking about the bullpen. I'm not talking
• 29:30
  about the starting rotation at all. When you've got Wheeler Nola Sanchez and you've
• 29:37
  got Ranger Squarez just absolutely murdering too. I'm not even talking about the starting
• 29:41
  rotation. I'm saying the bullpen is so on fire. It wouldn't surprise me
• 29:48
  if we started to see some slide after the All Star break with regard to
• 29:51
  the bullpen, to kind of just get things back to some sort of i'd
• 29:53
  say, quote normalcy within the game of baseball, So it wouldn't surprise me.
• 29:59
  I don't mean to end this on a Debbie Downer note here, but
• 30:02
  it just wouldn't surprise me. I can't believe I'm the positive Phillies fan in
• 30:06
  this one, I know, but but it doesn't negate my longtime theory that
• 30:12
  like one year you have an awesome bullpen, the next year it's gonna be
• 30:15
  shit, guarantee, and then the next year it's gonna be awesome. They've
• 30:21
  had a good bullpen for like what two years now in a row, right,
• 30:25
  like the fact they're playing really well now, but this is lights out
• 30:27
  dominant. I mean, they are lights out dominant right now. Like Jeff
• 30:32
  Hoffman Jesus Christ, I know where the fuck he come from. But what
• 30:36
  I what I will say is though that's the one spot you can make some
• 30:40
  small moves, small trades and upgrade. That's that's that's probably the easiest one
• 30:45
  to have an upgrade, especially when like you have plenty of money, you
• 30:48
  have lots of trade assets. Yeah, and you have a lot you have
• 30:52
  a lot of teams that suck ass, Like the A's are just out there
• 30:55
  going. Do you want our bullpen? Guys come takeing. H my god,
• 31:00
  give it. It's like major League, like give us a new plane
• 31:03
  or a new uh ice tug or whatever like like that's the one spot to
• 31:08
  have some upgrades. But I completely agree with you, like, how can
• 31:11
  that? How can we have a good bullpen three years in a row?
• 31:15
  Like it doesn't seem possible. I know, I know, it's like something's
• 31:19
  got to slide here, but uh, let's keep enjoying it. We'll keep
• 31:22
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• 31:59
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• 32:01
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• 32:29
  We're gonna be back with some more content. Stick with us, all right,
• 32:34
  We are back, and uh let's get into some storylines here, at
• 32:39
  least one storyline here that a lot of us have been following. And it's
• 32:45
  it's just a damn shame, man, it is sad. And it is
• 32:49
  a shame that there are certain media figures, male media figures, I should
• 32:54
  say, that are having difficulty covering the issues that are surrounding Can Clark and
• 33:00
  her early tenure in the w n B. A lot of hot takes out
• 33:06
  there, and I swear to God, Eric, I'm at a point where
• 33:07
  I'm like, how, how how are a lot of men and males within
• 33:12
  this industry they're talking about sports and they don't know how to talk about this
• 33:15
  woman. They don't know, they don't know how to address certain situations that
• 33:22
  are happening, especially within the w NBA. And what I'm talking about,
• 33:24
  folks, is the recent Indiana Fever and Chicago Sky game that really ignited some
• 33:31
  controversy within the w n B a where Caitlin Clark received a cheap shot from
• 33:38
  uh, do you say it Kennity Carter or Kennedy Carter. I think it's
• 33:44
  Kennedy Carter. Kennedy Carter, Okay, because she spells it c h E
• 33:46
  n n E d y. Anyway, Anyway, it brought attention to the
• 33:52
  the the very intense physical play that has endured for Caitlin Clark throughout her rookie
• 33:59
  season. And boy, there's a lot of hot takes out there, Eric,
• 34:02
  A lot of guys in the sports world just well, you know,
• 34:07
  she should be she should know what's coming her way. And there's a lot
• 34:12
  of nonsense out there, and opinions are divided out there on what kind of
• 34:17
  player she is, what kind of player she isn't thus far, I had
• 34:22
  a feeling something like this was coming, to be honest with you, after
• 34:25
  her trajectory, what she did at Iowa, how she became an icon for
• 34:30
  women in sports, and you figure, when somebody is that high, people
• 34:37
  are just going to try to tear them down. It's how the world works.
• 34:39
  We've seen it time and time again. But what's sad is that somebody
• 34:44
  who is able to bring so many people together and do it within the realm
• 34:49
  of the sports world where women specifically were getting a lot more recognition, that
• 34:55
  that is somehow now being tainted. At least that's how I'm seeing it.
• 34:59
  That's my opinion, Eric, So I don't know what are your thoughts on
• 35:00
  this and where these stories are going here, Well, the advent of social
• 35:07
  media has just sped up the hot take market. Like I think of Michael
• 35:15
  Jordan, right, and I'm not comparing Caitlin Clark to Michael Jordan because it's
• 35:19
  just completely two separate entities, completely like he was the greatest basketball player of
• 35:22
  all time, but he came to the league in eighty four, I believe,
• 35:29
  and we built him up for years. Man, it's like almost nine
• 35:34
  years before he had any bad publicity, right, and around ninety three we
• 35:38
  all got sick of him and all of a sudden it was like, he's
• 35:42
  a gambling addict, he's an asshole, and it led to him leaving basketball
• 35:45
  and going to do baseball for a year and a half along with the death
• 35:49
  is thought it was a whole thing, right, But we're now in the
• 35:52
  age where nine years is astronomically long for a hot take and trying to trying
• 35:59
  to tear down on somebody that we kind of put on a pedestal, right,
• 36:02
  Caitlin Clark's been in the league for what a six weeks? Two weeks?
• 36:07
  Yep. It's absurd how quickly like the hot takes on her have happened,
• 36:14
  and how like people are trying to find holes in her game, a
• 36:17
  hole in their life, that kind of thing, and holes on the team
• 36:20
  too, by the way, you know reports out there the teammates haven't been
• 36:23
  defending her. They've been notably absent from defending their teammate in a more forstful
• 36:29
  manner, which it's exaggerated. I'm sure the teammates love her, they don't
• 36:34
  have a shit like I'm pretty sure the Inana fever like the like their plane
• 36:39
  rides are probably a lot nicer now like the other game. Right, I'm
• 36:46
  sure they have like a lot of private jets, they have a probably probably
• 36:50
  a lot of security hotels. They probably get to go to nicer clubs because
• 36:53
  they have to have security. It's not like when Shaq joined the Magic.
• 36:57
  Right when Shaq joined the Magic, the Magic were like like a bumpkin NBA
• 37:01
  franchise, like they had nothing, and then like they were they were in
• 37:07
  Orlando, Florida, and they had they were a pathetic team, and Shack
• 37:09
  came and they were doing steak and lobster and like had in private chats that
• 37:14
  kind of thing. So she has upgraded the entire franchise and probably the lives
• 37:17
  of her teammates. So I don't believe a word of that. And she's
• 37:21
  also the fact that we're talking about it right now. You and I have
• 37:24
  not talked about the w NBA ever or women's sports for the most part for
• 37:30
  the what years of the show. But here we are talking about Calen Clark,
• 37:36
  a singular basketball player in the WNBA, and we've never done that prior
• 37:39
  to her arrival. So obviously something's working. So does it surprise me that
• 37:46
  the other women in the league are so hard on her and go after her
• 37:52
  so much? It surprises me a little just in that, like she brings
• 37:57
  a lot of cachet, not just for herself, but for the people kind
• 38:00
  of throwing elbows in her face or the other franchises, Like she the WNBA
• 38:08
  is like on the world map. Now, it's on first Take every day
• 38:12
  on ESPN. Yes, we're talking about it. Pat McAfee, that fucking
• 38:15
  douchebag talks about her and the NBA. I'm sure he never even thought about
• 38:20
  women's sports before this occurred, and I can't. It's it's incredible to me
• 38:29
  that, like, it's kind of nice that there's like someone in that league
• 38:34
  that we all want to talk about now. But the reaction to her and
• 38:37
  her arrival is really bizarre and a bit much, in my opinion. But
• 38:42
  I think it's like I think it's it happens so much quicker because of social
• 38:46
  media and because we all want our opinion out there and we all think so
• 38:50
  fast now we have so quickly, And I think also because of what the
• 38:55
  like if you look at the comments he made right Colnor bitch or whatever.
• 39:00
  Like, you have a lot of people that aren't very intelligent and they're on
• 39:05
  TV and they have to come up with quick quips about people and especially and
• 39:09
  they don't. They're not they don't know how to do it. And it's
• 39:13
  like, I'm not surprised this dunderhead that ESPN's given twenty million a year or
• 39:17
  two is saying dumb shit about the new star that because he's he has no
• 39:23
  idea how to how to handle a situation like this exactly exactly. And look,
• 39:28
  I think there's also something to be said for the fact that we've seen
• 39:31
  time and time again in the world of sports, how when somebody who is
• 39:37
  dominant in the college ranks and they move to the professional ranks, guess what,
• 39:40
  sometimes there's a struggle. You know, you have a dominant cornerback and
• 39:45
  you know, playing for I'll just make up LSU or something like that,
• 39:50
  they come over to the NFL and it's a bit tough for him. It's
• 39:52
  one of the toughest positions to go from college to professional sports. It's the
• 39:58
  cornerback position, even the quarterback position. You have dominant quarterbacks throughout the court.
• 40:04
  I mean, how many times do we see quarterbacks who are dominant in
• 40:07
  the college ranks fail as a professional football player. I'm not saying Caitlin Clark
• 40:12
  is gonna be like this by any stretch, but we see the struggle sometimes
• 40:15
  shifting over from one brand of play in sports to another brand of play in
• 40:21
  sports just because the professionalism is that much more elite and just overall better.
• 40:28
  But the fact of the matter is, and you hit the nail on the
• 40:30
  head of Eric, how she has brought people into the fold. Here in
• 40:37
  a sports world that is just obsessed with statistics, numbers don't lie. Eighty
• 40:42
  two thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven fans have attended five Indiana Fever home
• 40:46
  games thus far this season, and that is more than they drew in all
• 40:52
  twenty home games last season. At the end of the day, again,
• 40:55
  in a sports world that's obsessed with statistics, that's the type of stuff that
• 41:00
  matters because she's bringing people into the fold. And in the end of Fever,
• 41:05
  they absolutely love this, they absolutely do. But it's this these media
• 41:09
  figures that just don't know what to do with themselves when when something quote controversial
• 41:15
  comes up, Look she got shoved to the floor. It's a sports world.
• 41:19
  She probably didn't. She probably didn't care at the end of the day,
• 41:22
  you know. And it really, it really kind of just bothers me.
• 41:25
  The lack of well we're talking sports logic, the lack of logic that
• 41:31
  there is out there when it comes to sports commentators, announcers, quote analysts,
• 41:37
  and even sports entertainment personalities. It bothers the shit out of me.
• 41:43
  I have no qualms with her opponents going after her. Yeah, that makes
• 41:47
  perfect sense. Man. They just joined the same league she did. They
• 41:52
  are going after her because she's she's the top dog. Yep. Whether she's
• 41:55
  the best player or not. She's having fifteen points as a rookie. That's
• 41:59
  fucking pretty deep. Good. No, and and and they should they like
• 42:05
  she She's good. I'm gonna take her down. That's how basketball should work
• 42:07
  like that. That's like look at the bad Boy Pistons against Jordan, like
• 42:13
  basketball history. That's how it should work. But you have to think about
• 42:16
  this, like her arrival in the league is not like what are the top
• 42:22
  three quarterbacks take in the NFL draft, right, Kayleb Williams, Jane Daniels
• 42:27
  and what Drake may Right, all three of them coming into the NFL doesn't
• 42:32
  even equate to her coming in w n B A, Like she brings so
• 42:37
  much fame in cachet to the league that needed it really badly, and it's
• 42:43
  it's not talked about all the time on on on ESPN and this show apparently,
• 42:46
  and like those three don't even like compare to what she brings to the
• 42:52
  league. So it's it's a really interesting topic to watch and how it's gonna
• 42:58
  like it's going to evolve because it people it's really people don't know how to
• 43:04
  deal with it. They don't like to watch Pat McAfee just like just stumble
• 43:09
  through things trying to explain what's going on. He has no idea how he's
• 43:14
  a complete idiot. He has no idea how to like how to put put
• 43:16
  his thoughts together around this thing. Yeah, because she is completely evolving a
• 43:21
  league that has that was kind of wasn't ready for this, Like she kind
• 43:25
  of came along and like shot them twenty years ahead where they should have been.
• 43:31
  And I and then you you've got first take, and you've got Steven
• 43:36
  A. Smith staying saying stuff and like that was an awesome I'm sure you
• 43:39
  watched it. Monica what's her face? But they went she tore him down.
• 43:45
  It's very very or I should say, it's not often, in fact,
• 43:50
  hardly ever often that Steven A. Smith is speechless from somebody making a
• 43:53
  point and absolutely murdering, murdering him on the air, and that that is
• 44:00
  what she did. He was speechless. He's like, I can't believe you're
• 44:02
  saying where his response is. I can't believe you're saying this. I can't
• 44:07
  believe you're saying this right now? She was right. Yes, he had
• 44:10
  no idea what to say. Deep down, he's a smart I've seen interviews
• 44:15
  with him. He's a smart dude. Yes, and he knew he was
• 44:17
  wrong, and he was like, you're calling me out on my fucking show,
• 44:21
  lady. Yeah, that's wanted to do what he was going through his
• 44:23
  mind. But I'll tell you he's not unhappy. WNBA owners gott to be
• 44:28
  thrilled with this. Oh absolutely. You talk about the attendants and on my
• 44:32
  Instagram feed now it's it's the entrance of players now and their outfits. Yeah,
• 44:38
  it's it's all over Instagram and Twitter and it's like, holy shit,
• 44:43
  like this is a real thing now, Like this league kind of kind of
• 44:47
  just kind of like kind of just rode the wave of the NBA. That's
• 44:52
  a real thing, and she's the reason for it, no matter what whoever
• 44:55
  Pat Actor or Steven Ay Smith wants to talk about. And the I think
• 45:02
  just being a fan of hers in college, I think she can she can
• 45:07
  withstand anything that comes her way. I think so. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 45:10
  All right, Well, we're going from basketball talking about those storylines there to
• 45:17
  baseball and the specific Phillies story that we have this week. I read it
• 45:23
  on one of the sites we like to follow every now and then that Balls
• 45:29
  out of here dot com. It's a fan sided site, and they reported
• 45:32
  on the fact that and we've talked about how the Phillies have been instrumental and
• 45:37
  getting more involved in the international market, and it was really interesting how the
• 45:44
  Phillies really became serious about targeting and making sure that they are branding themselves appropriately
• 45:52
  in the Dominican Republic. So what they have done was they renamed three playing
• 45:58
  fields this past week at their Dominican Baseball Academy after three former Phillies greats,
• 46:07
  Juan Samuel, Bobby Abrau, and Carlos Ruiz. Three fields down there named
• 46:12
  for those players, and all three of those former players, from my understanding,
• 46:16
  were on hand for the dedication of those fields. But it's it's really
• 46:22
  it's not just about the gesture with those with those Phillies greats, but it's
• 46:27
  this Phillies organization that's really trying to ingrain themselves eric into the Dominican Republic community
• 46:32
  more in terms of understanding whop certain players are who could potentially be coming up
• 46:42
  through the Dominican Baseball Academy, you know, potentially getting to know their families
• 46:45
  more, just you know, making sure that they realized also that the community
• 46:52
  down there knows that the Phillies are invested in them. And it's good to
• 46:57
  see because there was a there was a while where the Philadelphia Phillies are organization.
• 47:00
  I mean we're going back to the Matt Clintac days and even some of
• 47:02
  the Rubin Tomorrow Junior days where just not very active in the international market.
• 47:08
  So this was a really cool article to read and just knowing the Phillies are
• 47:15
  going down this path, I think it shows that there are a franchise that
• 47:19
  really does go above and beyond when it comes to one honoring former players whose
• 47:23
  contributions on the field left a certain legacy, but there are franchise now that
• 47:29
  is willing to make certain investments to see success in the future, and they're
• 47:34
  really smart. The marketing department was really wise to choose the three players that
• 47:38
  they did because they covered the eighties, nineties, and two thousands, yep,
• 47:43
  and almost in tens with those three players. One Samuell one of my
• 47:46
  old favorites. Loved him. That motherfucker struck out two hundred times a year,
• 47:51
  yes forever, but was one of my favorites. He played second,
• 47:53
  played a great second base hunter home runs in his career with the Phillies.
• 47:58
  And then Bobby Bray was the obvious one, and then Chooch like so smart
• 48:02
  and yes the general I called them. We call them the general all the
• 48:06
  time. But to plant your flag in that country, uh, that has
• 48:10
  so many of the baseball history there, I have it right here. The
• 48:15
  best Dominican baseball players Albert Poohols, David Ortiz's Vla Guerrero, Sammy Sosaman and
• 48:20
  Rimirez all timers. Dude, like like that is a Patro Martinez, like
• 48:25
  my god. As a really small country if you look at it on a
• 48:30
  map and the baseball talent they've they've produced is incredible. And they're also uh,
• 48:36
  they're also huge on traditionalism, Like they really and like and and like
• 48:42
  like Dominican Republican pride. And for the Phillies to like plant their fag,
• 48:46
  plant their flag where they did, and to say we love you, we
• 48:51
  respect you, it really goes a long way, probably to some of the
• 48:53
  prospects saying like, oh, the Phillies they honor the players that we look
• 48:58
  up to, Like that's pretty cool and really smart, really smart for the
• 49:00
  Phillies. Absolutely, as it was a short story for us there. And
• 49:06
  Eric, I'm gonna let you go before we get to our interview this week
• 49:08
  here, buddy, any final thoughts before I let you go, before we
• 49:13
  get to this Eagles talk. I got two and a half weeks of nothing
• 49:16
  before my job starts, so gi me a big slob. I can just
• 49:23
  see you at your dining room table just eating a cheesecake. I prefer ice
• 49:29
  cream. Okay, all right, ice cream guy, Well get a gallon.
• 49:35
  Yes, I love to statue. It's one of my favorites. Two
• 49:39
  half weeks of that crap, I gotta tell you, I've been eating a
• 49:42
  lot of bad. I shouldn't say a lot. It's not as much as
• 49:45
  I want to. Seriously, I do a pint of Ben and Jerry's a
• 49:47
  week, I'll do like a third one night, and I'll do that three
• 49:52
  times. Or if I'm like all right, I'm already at a half,
• 49:54
  I'm like all right, I'll put it away and then two days later I
• 49:57
  finished the other half. But man, Ben and Jerry's s'mores and Boston cream
• 50:01
  Pie, Holy shit, so good. I love the good Boston cream Pie.
• 50:06
  The what's the one? Uh? One of the late night guys has
• 50:10
  a great one, the Cone one? Oh? Is it is? It?
• 50:14
  Is it? It's It's no, It's Fallin, isn't it not Jimmy
• 50:17
  Fallon the other one he the oh my god, he was on Comedy Central
• 50:22
  for years. He has a late night show now. I can't think of
• 50:27
  it. Kimmel, No, not Kimmel, the guy the I can't think
• 50:32
  of it, summit, bitch. But he had one, had pretzels and
• 50:37
  like cones in it. It was so fucking good. Oh my gosh,
• 50:40
  yeah, I know, I can't remember. I was gonna try to sturt
• 50:44
  anyway here. I can't. I'm not gonna have time to search it.
• 50:47
  There was no half pint. There was like, just put the whole fucking
• 50:50
  thing in my mouth. Care I'll go run three miles Tomorrow'll run it off.
• 50:54
  Go have some ice cream, my friend. All right, that's gonna
• 50:58
  do it for us here. But we still got some interview to get to
• 51:01
  in just a bit. Got some Eagles talk coming your way. Let's take
• 51:05
  a break, we'll be right back. All right, we are back,
• 51:08
  and now let's get to some Philadelphia Eagles talk. We've got Lou Dbasse from
• 51:13
  the Locked On Eagles podcast joining us right now. It's what we're throwing down
• 51:16
  on the table and now on the table. It is great to have him
• 51:22
  back on the show. He is one of the hosts at the Locked On
• 51:27
  Eagles podcast. I listen, I would say a good four times a week,
• 51:30
  and I hope I don't upset him by saying that, because I know
• 51:32
  they're churning out the content over at the Locked On Eagles podcast. Again,
• 51:37
  he is the one of the hosts over there at Locked on Birds on Twitter
• 51:40
  and you can find him and follow him on the Twitter slash x at dbse
• 51:45
  Loe. We've got the one and only Lou debasse. How you doing,
• 51:49
  buddy, what's up, Jeff? It's been a long time, but I
• 51:52
  appreciate you having me on the show. And yeah, we're still churning out
• 51:54
  five episodes a week, even during kind of the dead zone of the offseason.
• 51:58
  So I appreciate you listening day. And yes, we still got OTAs
• 52:00
  though going on right now. So I feel like we always got Eagles football
• 52:04
  to a certain degree, and I think for the real sickohs, even this
• 52:06
  time of year, they still want to hear about football, absolutely, and
• 52:09
  look, OTA's there's something right, there's something going on. And in fact,
• 52:14
  I mean we're gonna get into I want to get into the defense first
• 52:16
  with this Eagles team in terms of what we're gonna be seeing this year,
• 52:20
  but in terms of what was actually seen with OTAs. With regard to the
• 52:23
  defense, we had James brad Berry. You know, he was lining up
• 52:27
  at the safety position. From my understanding, slot corner, that's what they're
• 52:30
  gonna use him for. And thought it was a pretty interesting storyline given where
• 52:34
  this defensive backfield is going. Oh yeah, I'm fascinated by the defensive backfield
• 52:38
  this year, especially in training camp. I'm jealous of the beer porters they
• 52:42
  get to watch this unfold every day. Is Yeah, like Fangio kind of
• 52:45
  just sees he has, you know, twelve players at this point that have
• 52:49
  a real argument to make the fifty three man roster. A corner and he's
• 52:52
  trying to mix a match. See who can play on the outside, who
• 52:53
  plays better on the inside, who can play some safety, See who's versatile.
• 52:59
  Like he's just throwing every at the wall right now at that position and
• 53:01
  seeing what sticks. For Bradbury though they're trying him at all these spots and
• 53:06
  he got a quote unquote injury today, it feels a little fishy. I
• 53:09
  still don't believe he's going to be on the roster throughout the entire training camp
• 53:14
  process. But yeah, I think Fangio right now is just really trying to
• 53:16
  experiment with all the options he has a corner. It's a fascinating position this
• 53:21
  year, which is it's good man, because for a long time this position
• 53:23
  was weak. It wasn't top heavy, and it really wasn't that deep either
• 53:27
  exactly. It was rather neglected at times. So we're going to get into
• 53:30
  one particular cornerback in just a bit. But look, I think it's responsible
• 53:35
  at a Philadelphia Eagles and the coaching staff trying to figure out if James Bradberry
• 53:38
  can play somewhere else on the field. I think it's responsible coaching at this
• 53:43
  point to try to figure it out. Like you, Lou, I'm under
• 53:45
  the assumption that he's probably not going to be on this team during this twenty
• 53:49
  twenty four twenty twenty five season. So as we're getting into the defense here,
• 53:54
  I really wanted to talk about two specific players at different positions, and
• 54:00
  I was astonished because you recently uploaded a podcast over at Locked on Eagles that
• 54:05
  dove into what I have been thinking about in recent weeks. It hit my
• 54:08
  feed and I was like, oh my god. I'm like, there's some
• 54:09
  kind of telepathy thing going on with Lewin myself here. Yeah, you uploaded
• 54:15
  a show specifically about CJ. Gardner Johnson and Devin White how they are going
• 54:20
  to be significant keys to the eagles twenty twenty four success. And I loved
• 54:23
  what you were saying with both of these players. I mean CJ. Gardner
• 54:28
  Johnson in the secondary, Devin White in the middle of the field. So
• 54:30
  I'm wondering, can you kind of go into your thoughts for folks who may
• 54:34
  not have heard that particular podcast about you know what your your particular thoughts are
• 54:39
  about these guys and what essentially you and I have been thinking about, even
• 54:43
  though we haven't actually talked about this. So feel free. Yeah, no,
• 54:45
  absolutely so. I was thinking about this because there's been so many talking
• 54:49
  points about Nikobe Dean's future and how we hope long term he can be that
• 54:52
  green dot player that every down linebacker for you, who he was at Georgia,
• 54:57
  be the leader of your defense what you had t J. Edwards,
• 55:00
  and I think Cooper de Jean's a player coming in because you also drafted Quinnion
• 55:05
  Mitchell. There's not as much pressure for him to be like your CB one
• 55:07
  of the future on the boundary. You can now say, well, maybe
• 55:09
  we can utilize his skill set better. We can maximize his ceiling by moving
• 55:14
  him around the formation as a Swiss Army knife. Malcolm Jenkins like, do
• 55:16
  it all player in the slot, play safety, place him outside corner,
• 55:22
  right. I mean, those are some players that you want those roles to
• 55:24
  pan out for long term, but you look at some other guys for twenty
• 55:28
  twenty four, I think those roles are going to go to more so Chauncey
• 55:31
  Gardner, Johnson and Devin White than those younger players. And you got to
• 55:36
  think too, Chauncey Gartner, Johnson and Devin White, these aren't players that
• 55:39
  are over the age of thirty, like they're in their prime, and they
• 55:42
  could be long term pillars that fill those roles as well. So to me,
• 55:46
  I think Chauncey, especially over Cooper Dejean, is going to be that
• 55:50
  guy playing deep safety, playing in the box, playing slot. And Devin
• 55:54
  White he's only what twenty six years old years old exactly. It's unbelievable.
• 56:01
  He's got the skill set, he has the track record in the past.
• 56:04
  At one point, this guy was an All Pro linebacker. Nakobe Dean as
• 56:07
  good as he was at Georgia, we've never seen him do it at the
• 56:09
  pro level. So I don't think we should sleep on Chauncey and Devin,
• 56:15
  not just for twenty twenty four when I think they're going to be instrumental,
• 56:17
  but even long term as other options that can fill that role that we're really
• 56:22
  hoping Dean and Dejene kind of step into. I think they have at least
• 56:25
  four guys that you know have that potential, and hey, if they all
• 56:29
  become those kind of players, the more the merrier. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 56:32
  And folks, I would highly recommend you go over to the Lockdown Eagles podcast.
• 56:37
  It was a great, great episode that Lou put up again talking about
• 56:40
  CJ. Gardner, Johnson, Devin White and why there were significant keys to
• 56:44
  the Eagles twenty twenty four success. Again, highly recommend you going over there.
• 56:47
  And I do wonder, you know, as we're moving along with the
• 56:50
  conversation here, Lou, I do wonder about Quinnon Mitchell, how he's going
• 56:54
  to perform right out of the gate. I mean, we know that transitioning
• 56:57
  over from college cornerback play to NFL cornerback play is one of the most difficult
• 57:01
  things that could be done in all of sports, you know, But we
• 57:05
  know that Mitchell. He's got the speed to carry receivers deep. He's got
• 57:08
  great vision and zone coverage. We've seen that, we saw that in college.
• 57:13
  He's not afraid to be physical too out of a break to deliver a
• 57:15
  blow to a receiver either, which I love that physicality when it comes to
• 57:19
  his possible growing pains. So to say, what do you think that looks
• 57:23
  like for Mitchell kind of right out of the gate this season. Maybe what
• 57:27
  kind of hurdles he may have to get over. Yeah, So, unlike
• 57:30
  even a Cooper Degene or certain corners that would come into the league, there's
• 57:34
  not any one thing about Quignen's skills that I'm saying, oh, that might
• 57:37
  be a problem at the NFL level when he has to go up against Cedee
• 57:40
  Lamb or some of the best receivers in football. As you mentioned, he
• 57:45
  has the speed, He is not an undersized corner. He can play physical
• 57:47
  if he wants to. He proved to the Senior Bowl that even though at
• 57:51
  Toledo he played ninety nine percent of the time off ball zone coverage off the
• 57:55
  line of scrimmage, that he could also play press man against some of the
• 57:59
  best receivers in the country. So yeah, there's not really one thing I'm
• 58:01
  like, this is going to be something he has to work on at the
• 58:05
  NFL level. I would just say adjusting to Again, I don't care that
• 58:08
  he played at Toledo, but it's going to be quite a change covering NFL
• 58:13
  receivers like a CD Lamb compared to somebody that played in the MAC. When
• 58:16
  it comes to the balance of speed and elite route running that a lot of
• 58:21
  these receivers have that combination. There are some college receivers that are amazing route
• 58:23
  runners, but they don't have the four to three speed. There's some guys
• 58:27
  that have the four to three speed that don't have the route running separation,
• 58:30
  And so I think that's going to be just the biggest thing is adjusting to
• 58:34
  how complete wide receivers are at the NFL level. But I really do think
• 58:38
  that week in Mobile at the Senior Bowl was huge in that area because he
• 58:42
  was really able to grow in that way as a man coverage corner and cover
• 58:46
  so many different types of receivers like a Roman Wilson from Michigan who's more of
• 58:51
  a shifty slock guy, and then he goes up against a six to seven
• 58:53
  player who's now an eagle in Johnny Wilson. So yeah, yeah, I
• 58:57
  think overall, it's just adjusting to how incredible these receivers are at this level.
• 59:02
  He wasn't used to that at Toledo for sure. Yeah. I think
• 59:06
  I have less concern with regard to where the secondary is right now, quite
• 59:09
  frankly, lou than the concerns that I have with regard to the defensive line,
• 59:15
  to be honest with you, but giving it a lot of thought more
• 59:17
  and more. I mean I've gone on record saying on this podcast, I'm
• 59:20
  concerned about with the productivity from the defensive line might actually look like this year.
• 59:24
  I mean, BG as yet another year older. We still love him
• 59:28
  and still adore him, but look a you know, Ages really going to
• 59:32
  catch up to him. They lost Son Raddick. We don't know what Bryce
• 59:37
  huff snapcount is necessarily going to be at this point. There's a lot of
• 59:40
  question marks, I think with regard to this defensive line. So I'm wondering,
• 59:44
  what's your level of concern as it pertains to the defensive line this year
• 59:47
  and how they're gonna be able to get opposing team or get two opposing team's
• 59:52
  quarterbacks this season. No, it's a great point, and I'm kind of
• 59:54
  torn on the edge group. I think it has a kind of like most
• 59:58
  of this defense, it's a lot of potential and not a lot of proven
• 1:00:00
  ability. Right, So I think as a whole unit, they're gonna be
• 1:00:04
  much better in the sack department and just from a consistency standpoint than they were
• 1:00:07
  last year. I think they're deeper, I think they're younger, I think
• 1:00:09
  they're faster, and all of these guys do present elite potential. Like Josh
• 1:00:15
  Sweat has shown that at times he can be one of the best pass rushers
• 1:00:19
  in football. I think Bryce Huff statistically the last few years, has been
• 1:00:22
  one of the most efficient players at getting to the quarterback. Is he in
• 1:00:25
  every down run stopper? Yet we're not so sure. Nolan Smith again has
• 1:00:30
  this is a former first round pick, right, and then Jalyx Hunt who
• 1:00:34
  has all the potential in the world. Brandon Graham still can be a pretty
• 1:00:37
  solid rotational player for you. So as a whole, I think that they're
• 1:00:40
  going to be better than last year. But at the same time, like
• 1:00:44
  you mentioned, there's question marks on all these players. Sweat did disappear last
• 1:00:47
  year. He's never been like the guy on the edge. Nolan Smith is
• 1:00:52
  in year two, didn't show a lot as a rookie. Bryce Huff again,
• 1:00:55
  he's never been in every down player. They're gonna need him to probably
• 1:00:59
  be that player more in Philly than he was in New York. So is
• 1:01:01
  there going to be one? Is one of these guys going to step up
• 1:01:05
  as the guy that you can always rely on to get to the quarterback,
• 1:01:07
  like Hassan Reddick did. Like in the clutch fourth quarter two minutes to go,
• 1:01:12
  you need somebody to step up. That's who Hassan was like, we
• 1:01:15
  need to you know, this unit's better than it was last year, but
• 1:01:19
  we need to give Hassan red a credit. That wasn't just some good pass
• 1:01:22
  rusher. That to me, Jeff was a top five player, yes at
• 1:01:24
  his position from the last three four years, and he was one of the
• 1:01:28
  most clutch players in the NFL. So I don't know, you're probably going
• 1:01:31
  to replace him with strength of numbers. I don't know if one guy will
• 1:01:35
  become that Hassan Reddick, but it's a really fascinating position to see who kind
• 1:01:38
  of emerges as that guy to replace number seven or if it again is just
• 1:01:43
  kind of by a committee approach. Absolutely, And as you know, before
• 1:01:45
  we get over to the offense, I think too, it is something I've
• 1:01:49
  been giving more thought to low is the fact that I think the player's relationship
• 1:01:54
  with Vic Fangio is going to play a tremendous factor into how this defense really
• 1:02:00
  does produce throughout this coming season. Because more and more. I see it
• 1:02:06
  time and time again, whether it's with NBA teams, whether it's with hockey
• 1:02:09
  teams, baseball teams. That relationship that players have with their coaching staff means
• 1:02:15
  everything in the world. And with Vic Fangio coming in, and there were
• 1:02:20
  questions and I've seen some of your tweets in the past about you know,
• 1:02:23
  Vic Fangio, some of the relationships that he had with some of the players
• 1:02:27
  in Miami, and I'm like, Oh, crap, is this gonna is
• 1:02:30
  this? Is this not gonna work out for this defense and for these players.
• 1:02:34
  This defense has all the talent in the world on paper, but that
• 1:02:37
  relationship, I think if it manifests itself in a way that we're all hoping,
• 1:02:42
  good things are gonna happen. But that's where I have some trepidation as
• 1:02:45
  well. No, I agree, And it's a huge, huge part of
• 1:02:49
  this puzzle, especially when you have so many young players that are trying to
• 1:02:52
  develop, Like it's even more important now than like twenty twenty two when they
• 1:02:55
  had so many veterans on this team on all three levels. Now it's even
• 1:02:59
  more important for your coordinator because he, like right now, Vic Fangio is
• 1:03:02
  responsible for developing Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith and Quinya Mitchell on
• 1:03:07
  every young kid in the second area and at pinebacker, Like this defense is
• 1:03:12
  so young and filled with first and second and third round picks that, yeah,
• 1:03:15
  I think it's a great point. And you know hopefully that that Miami's
• 1:03:19
  stuff wasn't really all that. There wasn't much basis to it, and it
• 1:03:22
  was just a couple guys, because yeah, we've seen in the past that
• 1:03:25
  there's some coaches that can hold back better talent because it's just not the right
• 1:03:29
  scheme fit or that relationship's not there. Like I always use the comparison of
• 1:03:32
  Razeuol Douglas and Jim Schwartz. Jim Schwartz never knew how to use Razuol Douglas.
• 1:03:37
  It's why guys like Ronald Darby and Jalen Mills always got preference. Yep.
• 1:03:40
  And now Razool is a much better player than all of them in Green
• 1:03:44
  Bay and now in Buffalo. So yeah, it's a great point. Man,
• 1:03:46
  like Fangio, there's a lot riding on vic in twenty twenty four for
• 1:03:50
  the Eagles, absolutely, and how that relationship just manifests itself with the players.
• 1:03:53
  So all right, let's move over to the offense here, and specifically
• 1:03:58
  this Eagles offense line, a line and unit that has always been very dominant.
• 1:04:02
  Year after year. They're always toward the top of the NFL. As
• 1:04:04
  we know, we've become very spoiled as Eagles fans watching this offensive line year
• 1:04:11
  after year. But of course, losing Jason Kelcey and having two players at
• 1:04:15
  two new starting positions this year, lou the center and the right guard positions,
• 1:04:18
  it's going to be interesting to watch for sure. And the consistency in
• 1:04:23
  chemistry is something that I've been giving a lot of thought to as well,
• 1:04:26
  and how that's gonna work, how that right guard and Lane Johnson are going
• 1:04:29
  to work with each other, and just how, you know, appearing that
• 1:04:32
  it's going to be Cam Jurgens at center, how he's going to be able
• 1:04:35
  to take over that quote Jason Kelsey's role, even though I don't think it's
• 1:04:39
  necessarily possible for somebody to step into those shoes. So I'm wondering, though,
• 1:04:43
  with two new starting positions on this offensive line, what's your level of
• 1:04:48
  concern with that right interior side of that offensive line. Yeah, it's definitely
• 1:04:53
  going to be an adjustment for sure. Yeah, and no, you're not
• 1:04:56
  going to replace Jason Kelsey four. But I will say I'm pretty calm because
• 1:05:00
  I just have that much faith in Jeff Stotlin to make this right. And
• 1:05:04
  you look at Cam Jurgens. I was really impressed by the way he filled
• 1:05:08
  in at right guard last year. Isaac Sayamalu was a stud in twenty twenty
• 1:05:11
  two. Those weren't, you know, small shoes To fill in his own
• 1:05:14
  part, Cam Jurgens goes to his more natural position, learning from Jason Kelcey
• 1:05:17
  last year. I think he's gonna be fine. And then with Tyler Steen,
• 1:05:20
  I'm a bigger fan of Stein than most. I think during the draft
• 1:05:24
  process people were trying to like there was this talk about, well, if
• 1:05:27
  you draft the tackle, he needs to be able to play right guard,
• 1:05:30
  he has to start this year. I'm like, well, sure, it'd
• 1:05:30
  be nice if he had that versatility, but are we just forgetting about the
• 1:05:33
  kid that they would have drafted in the second round and if they didn't trade
• 1:05:36
  down and take him at the top of the third And Tyler Steen, who's
• 1:05:40
  an Alabama player who Lane Johnson compared to Brandon Brooks last year. Jeff stout
• 1:05:45
  made that same comparison yesterday in his presconcent. Great. Yeah, I don't
• 1:05:48
  think we should sleep on Tyler Steen, and I think he's a really smart,
• 1:05:51
  intelligent player. Does he have the size and the skills of a Jordan
• 1:05:55
  by Alatta or even a Makai Becten behind him, No, but he's smart.
• 1:06:00
  And I was really Jeff last summer during the preseason. I was really
• 1:06:02
  impressed by how he handled Stoutland throwing a lot on his plate in the preseason.
• 1:06:06
  There were you know, at one point in every game he was playing
• 1:06:11
  like every position, he was playing tackle, he was playing both guard spots.
• 1:06:14
  Yeah, and that to me was really impressive. So I don't know
• 1:06:16
  if they're going to be Kelsey and Brooks, like you know, we've been
• 1:06:20
  used to, we've kind of been spoiled. But I think when you also
• 1:06:24
  have three other elite pillars in May Allota, Dickerson, and Lane, I
• 1:06:27
  think Steen and Jurgens can be guys you win with. You're probably not going
• 1:06:30
  to win because of them, but you have three other studs up front that
• 1:06:33
  those two are not going to be players that hold you back. And I
• 1:06:36
  think they'll continue to develop and get better as the year goes on. It's
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  going to be fascinating to watch overall. And I think the offense in general
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  is going to be kind of fascinating given the fact that there's a new offensive
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  coordinator in Kellen Moore, and of course everyone is just talking about how we're
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  likely to see more pre snap motion and even more aggressive passing attack and I
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  can't wait. I can't wait to see it because this offense has been,
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  as most folks have dubbed it, just a boring type of offense over the
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  past couple of seasons. What kind of differences, Lou, are we gonna
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  see from this offense with Kellen Moore than what we've seen over the past couple
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  of years here? Yeah, Well, the main one is the one you
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  nailed. It's motion. You're gonna see a lot more prestat motion. And
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  that's not a high bar to raise because or the beat because last year the
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  Eagles were I think dead last in yes, yeah, so they just did
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  not use it in their offense. And so I think it's actually gonna be
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  a really nice compliment to what Nick Sirianni in this offense has already done with
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  a lot of their option plays a RPO. I think when you have prestat
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  motion and having DeVante Smith suddenly line up on the slotter Saquon Barkley kick out
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  into the slot, or you have two guys in the backfield and now you
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  start using some triple option and you get defenses thinking because of that motion,
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  that's only going to add to what you do best. So I think the
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  marriage between the philosophies are gonna I think it's gonna work. I think some
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  other things you'll see the quick passing game, it's going to be a much
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  bigger part of the offense than it's been. I think Moore really used that
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  a lot with Justin Herbert in LA last year. I think that's gonna really
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  help with answering against the Blitz. Steegels were not good in that department last
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  year. I don't know. I mean outside of that, like, you're
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  gonna see a lot more throwing to the running back. Of course, you
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  got Saquon Barkley, you want to get him the ball, yep, and
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  play action under center. I just think you're gonna see a lot more optionality.
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  It's just not going to be the same thing over and over again,
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  and when you have all the weapons, you already do again. Like Jeff,
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  as you mentioned, this offense has been vanilla even in twenty twenty two.
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  It didn't matter because you were so talented. But why not try to
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  make it even easier and harder to defend elite players by making your scheme elite
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  too, and make it hard to figure out. So I really hope that
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  this pans out this year because there's a lot of potential. Even though the
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  play worked almost every time, and I don't have the percentages in front of
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  me. Low if I have to see that tight end screen to Dallas Goddard
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  again, oh my gosh, it's just it was just a yes, you
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  just know it was com Yeah. Honestly, at the end of last year,
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  it got to the point where I was feeling we were watching Chip Kelly's
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  offense again, where I could predict, sitting on my couch what was going
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  on. So, yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen with Kellen Moore.
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  You're just gonna see a lot more optionality. You're just gonna be more
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  multiple on offense again. Folks talking to Lou Debassi from the Lockedown Eagles Podcast.
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  Give him a follow on Twitter slash x if you're not already at dBase
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  l Oe. He is a great, great follow. And to close us
• 1:09:28
  out here, we obviously have to talk about the quarterback position. We got
• 1:09:30
  to talk about Jalen Hurts, and yes it's OTAs, but one of the
• 1:09:33
  themes from OTAs here as it pertains to Jalen Hurts is that he's thrown over
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  the middle. More good, good news, but he had some challenges with
• 1:09:42
  that. I'm wondering what again talking about concern levels here? How concerned should
• 1:09:46
  we be about Jalen Hurts and that adaptability to this new offense. Throwing over
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  the middle something he needs to do if this offense is going to succeed.
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  What are your thoughts here? Yeah, I think in twenty twenty two,
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  jail And proved to me that he has the ability to be that player that
• 1:10:02
  can utilize the middle of the field and throw with anticipation layer throws. I
• 1:10:08
  think he can be an elite processor. That's who he was two years ago
• 1:10:12
  when he almost won the MVP and almost beat Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
• 1:10:15
  Even last year he had a lot of moments like that the first eleven
• 1:10:17
  weeks of the season, when he was an MVP favorite according to most betting
• 1:10:21
  sites. So you know, again, like last year, he regressed just
• 1:10:26
  like everybody on the team. And yeah, he's got yet another new play
• 1:10:29
  caller, but that's kind of in the story of Jalen Hurts his life as
• 1:10:31
  a quarterback. So if anybody's gonna be able to adjust, Jeff like,
• 1:10:34
  I trust, it's gonna be Jalen. I know last year was it was
• 1:10:38
  a bad finish and I had a sour tase in my mouth about the quarterback.
• 1:10:41
  I thought, that's when you need him more than any time, right
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  he did not step up. Yeah, but yeah, Jalen Hurts, I'm
• 1:10:47
  not worried about him this year. I think the offense is gonna be perfect
• 1:10:50
  for him. In this entire offense's skill set with Kellen Moore gonna be fun
• 1:10:55
  to watch and follow, and it's also gonna be a great great listen over
• 1:10:59
  at the Lockdown You podcast as well. Folks, I subscribe on Apple Podcasts.
• 1:11:02
  You should as well on whatever podcast platform you are on. Lou DEVIASI,
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  buddy, it was great talking to you. Thank you so much for
• 1:11:10
  joining us here on the show this week. I'm hoping to talk to you
• 1:11:12
  at some point down the road. My friend. Absolutely, let's do it
• 1:11:15
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• 1:11:17
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