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Showing Up In Big Games, Going Toe-to-Toe with Texans | Huddle Up · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to huddle up jaguar senior writer john osher and
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Speaker 1: nfl network analyst and former jaguar bucky brooks bring you
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Speaker 1: the latest on your jacksonville jaguar huddle up starts right
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Speaker 1: now all.
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Speaker 2: Right welcome in to huddle up with bucky brooks i'm
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Speaker 2: john osher from the grove studios in watford united kingdom
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Speaker 2: Go to fieldsauto.com. And, Bucky, look, I get it. It's Wednesday.
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Speaker 2: We're moving forward. But we've both seen a lot of football.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure we've seen football like we saw in
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Speaker 2: the last eight seconds or three minutes of that game.
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Speaker 2: I haven't talked to you. So just I know fans
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Speaker 2: are so excited about us. We can cover this a
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Speaker 2: little bit. Just give me your reaction, emotion, moment, quick thought.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable win. Great to get wins of late when we
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Speaker 3: haven't played our best ball. The last couple of games
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Speaker 3: have been sloppy when it comes to the penalties. execution
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Speaker 3: has been inconsistent at times. But I will say this, man,
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Speaker 3: particularly being field level, this is a scrappy team, a
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Speaker 3: gritty team, and the Jaguars certainly are beginning to believe
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Speaker 3: that they can find a way to win any game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, Bucky, that we talked about a little
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Speaker 2: bit Cincinnati. We've both been around good teams, and it
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Speaker 2: sounds like a cliche to say good teams win games
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Speaker 2: like that because sometimes you lose games like that. But
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Speaker 2: I thought this was an example of what the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: have been doing lately. You put yourself in position. You're
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Speaker 2: going to have, what, four, five, six close games a year.
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Speaker 2: They come down to the final two minutes. Maybe not
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Speaker 2: quite like that, but they come down to it. And
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Speaker 2: this team, to be a champion, to win those games,
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Speaker 2: it's almost a percentage thing where you coach well enough
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Speaker 2: and you're aware enough and you have big plays enough.
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Speaker 2: That sometimes in that moment, there was luck involved at
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Speaker 2: the end. No doubt. You don't win a game where
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Speaker 2: you trail with eight seconds to go and get in
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Speaker 2: the ball without a little luck. But they also took
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Speaker 2: advantage of it, which how many times over the years
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Speaker 2: have you turned off the TV and said, how did
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Speaker 2: the Patriots, how did the Chiefs, how did they win that? Oh,
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Speaker 2: they got lucky. Well, I guess the cliche is you
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Speaker 2: make your own luck. But I thought they handled the
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Speaker 2: situation like great teams do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. Uh, I give them a ton of credit. One, uh,
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Speaker 3: being in the building, you knew it, John, like that
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Speaker 3: was not a home game for the Jacksonville Jaguars. That
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Speaker 3: was a Philadelphia, a pro Philadelphia crowd. They were very loud.
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Speaker 3: They were into the game and it made it problematic,
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Speaker 3: particularly when we had the ball because it was so
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Speaker 3: loud and so raucous that you could tell that the
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Speaker 3: Eagles were feeding off the energy of their crowd. Um,
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Speaker 3: But we were able to settle in, and even though
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Speaker 3: I felt like it was an uphill climb the entire game,
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Speaker 3: never could create separation, never could get in front and
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Speaker 3: kind of get the game on their terms, the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: just kind of kept battling. And I would say the
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Speaker 3: thing that really stands out to me is when you
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Speaker 3: have a great defense, and I don't know how to
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Speaker 3: categorize this defense in terms of its level of greatness
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Speaker 3: because it's not really a shut-em-down defense. It's a bit
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Speaker 3: of a takeaway, opportunistic, find ways to get off the
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Speaker 3: field defense. But when you have a really good defense
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Speaker 3: that can keep you in games, man, it allows your
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Speaker 3: offense enough time and opportunity to find the rhythm. I
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Speaker 3: can't say that we've always had that kind of defense
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Speaker 3: in Jacksonville. But man, when you can rely on the
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Speaker 3: defense to kind of keep you close until the offense
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Speaker 3: kind of catches fire, that is a luxury that a
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Speaker 3: lot of teams don't enjoy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you used the word rely a couple
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Speaker 2: of times, and that's sort of what I think of
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Speaker 2: with this defense. It's reliable. You know what it is.
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Speaker 2: This team always knows it's going to stop the run. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point they will give up more
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Speaker 2: yards than they want. But I think when you can
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Speaker 2: do that, Bucky, when you know what you are, then
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Speaker 2: the rest of the, you know, the secondary is very turnover-oriented.
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Speaker 2: I think because they know they're going to get opportunities
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Speaker 2: because that running game is so good. This team knows
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Speaker 2: how games are going to play out. They're going to
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Speaker 2: face a lot of third and long. They're going to
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Speaker 2: stop the run. The other team is going to get–
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes you antsy. You've played.
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Speaker 2: I haven't. But when you can't run as an offense,
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Speaker 2: you get sort of– it bothers you. You know you're
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Speaker 2: not controlling the game the way that traditional football wants
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Speaker 2: you to. So– We'll talk more about the defense going forward,
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Speaker 2: but I did think that played into that game. The
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Speaker 2: Eagles never... You know about the Jaguars never feeling in
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Speaker 2: control of the game. The Eagles could never get away
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Speaker 2: and get control even though the Jaguars were struggling at times.
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Speaker 2: This defense is special in that regard. We'll talk about
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Speaker 2: that later in the show, so let's move on real quick.
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Speaker 2: What kind of.
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Speaker 2: What kind of momentum... can these last two games mean,
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Speaker 2: especially the one at the end? I hate springboard because
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Speaker 2: momentum is such a week-to-week thing in the league. But
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Speaker 2: when you start winning some games like this, maybe it
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Speaker 2: just shows you're good or maybe you're getting some momentum, belief,
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Speaker 2: all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: Look, I think it does show that you are a
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Speaker 3: good team. And I think, obviously, around the league, people
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Speaker 3: are beginning to recognize the Jaguars as as a good team,
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Speaker 3: not only because of what they've done the first quarter
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Speaker 3: of the season, but what they did the last half
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Speaker 3: of the season and closing it out. Didn't have the
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Speaker 3: playoff run that you wanted, but you saw a team
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Speaker 3: play really good football down the stretch. And remember, I
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Speaker 3: think last year prepared this team for this year. Last year,
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Speaker 3: they had to fend off Houston Texans down the stretch
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Speaker 3: and they had to win. They're going to run a
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Speaker 3: games where they won. I think it was like eight
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Speaker 3: hot to be able to fend off the Texas to
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Speaker 3: win the division. And they were able to do it.
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Speaker 3: And when you think about like Liam always talks about
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Speaker 3: habits and how, Your habits translate. Well, we developed the
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Speaker 3: winning habit last year, and it certainly is carried over
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Speaker 3: to this year. And these guys understand it. And without
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Speaker 3: the hiccup that you had in Denver where you were
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Speaker 3: up 13-3, you could say that this team has arguably
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Speaker 3: been the most dominant team in the league based on
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Speaker 3: who they knocked off and how they've been able to
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Speaker 3: get it done.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get into some of the specifics of
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Speaker 2: Jags-Eagles in a minute. I want to ask you one
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Speaker 2: last thing before we do that. I think people, a
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Speaker 2: lot of the fans who emailed me, feel like it
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Speaker 2: was a disappointment that you didn't win that game by
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Speaker 2: 20 points. And to me, that feels like a not
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Speaker 2: really grasping what the game was. The Eagles are a very,
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Speaker 2: very good defense, and there was really nothing wrong with
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Speaker 2: their defense the other day. Jaguars got 408 yards, we'll
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Speaker 2: get into that, but... And the Eagles had just led
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Speaker 2: the Rams late the week before. This isn't college, Bucky.
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Speaker 2: People thought they were going to win that game 14-17
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Speaker 2: going away. I never thought that because this is a team,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles, they know how to play. I think Liam
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Speaker 2: used the phrase, they welcome adversity or they thrive in
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Speaker 2: it or whatever it is. They're that kind of team.
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Speaker 2: I don't care how injured you are. That's real.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a very real deal. And I think
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Speaker 3: everyone has to get used to this. And it's hard
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Speaker 3: coming from watching Saturday ball to Sunday ball. Saturday, when
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Speaker 3: you're clearly superior to the team in the college game,
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Speaker 3: you end up beating them by three touchdowns. And the pros,
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Speaker 3: a blowout win, a big win is by 10. Most
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Speaker 3: games in this league, the way everything is set up,
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Speaker 3: it's a one score league. Eight points or fewer is
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Speaker 3: typically the deciding margin. So even though you may be
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Speaker 3: clearly significantly better than the opponent, you have to ready
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Speaker 3: your mind that this is going to be a fourth
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Speaker 3: quarter game. It's going to be decided by one score.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be decided in the last five minutes
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Speaker 3: of the game. Everything that the league has done has
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Speaker 3: kind of created that story arc. And your team, your coaches,
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Speaker 3: the people on the outside, they need to understand that
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Speaker 3: it's going to take all four quarters to knock this
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Speaker 3: opponent off. Let's be ready. Let's have enough competitive stamina
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Speaker 3: and endurance to be able to take it to the
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter and find a way to win it. That's
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Speaker 3: what good teams do, and that's what the Jaguars have
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Speaker 3: been able to do.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into specifics from Sunday. I thought the Jaguars...
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Speaker 2: It's easy to get lost. A lot of fans asked me, oh,
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Speaker 2: they played so poorly in Area X, Area Y. They
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Speaker 2: had 408 yards, and they got stopped on the goal
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Speaker 2: line twice. I think it's easy to see the score
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Speaker 2: and the feel of the second half and feel like
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Speaker 2: oh they couldn't move the ball um but i thought
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Speaker 2: the other day may have been a harbinger of really
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Speaker 2: good things for this offense because you had a couple
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Speaker 2: of hiccups that kept you out of the end zone
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Speaker 2: but you also pretty easily could have had what 33
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Speaker 2: 35 points uh i thought they did a lot of
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Speaker 2: good things and i'm not sure the score reflected.
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Speaker 3: It yeah no i think they did a really good
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Speaker 3: job i felt like this was a a massive performance
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Speaker 3: in terms of the way Trevor played the game. And
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Speaker 3: I know people are talking about, like, hey, they didn't
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Speaker 3: blow them out. It didn't have the explosive of the
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Speaker 3: big plays. I think a lot of that is dictated
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Speaker 3: by what the Eagles were doing with Big Fangio, making
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Speaker 3: sure that they weren't going to give up the big play.
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Speaker 3: Even though we were able to get two big plays
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Speaker 3: to Parker Washington, You think about the bootleg pass and
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Speaker 3: then down on fourth down, he's able to go over
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Speaker 3: the top of the defense. Those things happen. This was
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Speaker 3: a game where we talked about it in game. Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 3: discipline and patience would determine what this offense was able
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Speaker 3: to do all day. Because when you take away the
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Speaker 3: deep throws and you force Trevor into a check down game,
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Speaker 3: is he patient enough to consistently take the check down,
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Speaker 3: down after down after down until this offense catches the rhythm?
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Speaker 3: He was. And that is significant growth for quarterback defense.
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Speaker 3: In the past, sometimes we'd get antsy trying to force one.
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Speaker 3: His patience, his persistence, but more importantly, his discipline really
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Speaker 3: showed up and helped the Jaguars show out overseas.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, Bucky. If you think about
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Speaker 2: the five games this year, does anything really stand out for,
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Speaker 2: oh boy, you wish you hadn't done that? This is
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Speaker 2: five games now of, I think you've talked about it
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Speaker 2: on this show a couple of times, The great ones
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Speaker 2: have to sort of toggle back and forth between being
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Speaker 2: great in the moment, managing the moment, managing the game,
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Speaker 2: being aware of situations. Somebody actually asked me this week, oh,
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Speaker 2: it was good to see Trevor emotional at the end
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Speaker 2: of the game. He doesn't have any fire. Bucky, what
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Speaker 2: these guys have to do from a concentration level, I
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Speaker 2: don't care if they ever show fire. You've got to
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Speaker 2: be in control out there. You've got to be driving
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Speaker 2: the ship. But he really has grown in that toggling
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Speaker 2: back and forth, hadn't he? Just being able to know
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Speaker 2: what each situation calls for. This is a kid who
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Speaker 2: is growing into a veteran, leader, control the game guy
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Speaker 2: before our eyes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the great quarterbacks. And you think about the Tom Brady's.
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Speaker 3: You think about the guys that have traditionally won for
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Speaker 3: a long time, even Peyton Manning to a lesser degree.
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Speaker 3: they're able to toggle between game manager and playmaker based
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Speaker 3: on situation and circumstance. There's some games where the game
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Speaker 3: is under control. Your defense has it locked. The running
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Speaker 3: game is going. Whereas the quarterback, my job is to
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Speaker 3: make sure we're just in the right play. Make sure
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Speaker 3: we go opposite when the front tells us that we
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Speaker 3: need to run a different way. Make sure we just
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Speaker 3: continue to move the chains. I'll take the check downs.
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Speaker 3: I won't force balls into tight coverage and avoid the
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Speaker 3: turnover because our defense has it under control. Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 3: right now, what I see is a quarterback that is
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Speaker 3: high-level quarterbacking, meaning he understands the moment, he understands the situation,
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Speaker 3: he sees and senses the ebbs and flows of the game,
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Speaker 3: and he makes decisions that match what that flow is.
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Speaker 3: So whether that's taking the check down, whether that is
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Speaker 3: scrambling to his left and throwing back right over the
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Speaker 3: middle because we need chunk plays, he understands how to
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Speaker 3: do that. And I would say the difference in this
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Speaker 3: version of Trevor Lawrence versus the version that we saw earlier,
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Speaker 3: earlier he would try and force things the ball in
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Speaker 3: the situation. He would try and force the big plays
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Speaker 3: to happen. Now I feel like he's very comfortable in
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Speaker 3: who he is and his leadership style. He lets the
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Speaker 3: game come to him. And as a result, this offense
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Speaker 3: has been able to win as a counter puncher, as
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Speaker 3: opposed to always dictating turns. They can handle what you
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Speaker 3: throw at them and they have solutions to that. It's
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Speaker 3: just about the quarterback getting them to the right spot.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get into the Jaguars defense a little
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Speaker 2: later in the show. When we return, a look at
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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans, who, by the way, they play on Sunday, Bucky,
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Speaker 2: on Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 5: Two really tight games against them. Obviously have a tough season.
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Speaker 5: feeling in our stomachs from the last time we played
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Speaker 5: against these guys and know that every time that you
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Speaker 5: line up against this team, it's going to be a fight.
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Speaker 5: It's going to be a brawl. And so that's what's
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Speaker 5: great about football. That's what's great about rivalries is that
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Speaker 5: you have a level of respect for each other, right,
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Speaker 5: because you know any given Sunday anything can happen, especially
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Speaker 5: in rivalry-type games.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: I am John Ogier. You can hear and see the
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Speaker 2: full press conference on Jaguars.com or the Jaguars YouTube channel.
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Speaker 2: And as I always say, anytime Liam speaks, it's worth
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Speaker 2: a listen. You ever been around a coach who enjoys
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Speaker 2: it and embraces it as much as Liam, Bucky? I
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Speaker 2: know you have. I mean, this guy personifies it, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say this, and I've told him this,
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Speaker 3: and I've said this like boldly on this podcast. He
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Speaker 3: is one of the best coaches that I've ever been around.
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Speaker 3: And I say that humbly saying that I've been around
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Speaker 3: some great ones from Marv Levy, who's in the Hall
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Speaker 3: of Fame, Mike Holmgren, who's won Super Bowls, Tom Coughlin's
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Speaker 3: won multiple Super Bowls, Marty Schottenheimer, who's won 200 games,
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Speaker 3: and John Gruden, who's another Super Bowl winning coach. This
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Speaker 3: dude has it, and he has it in his own way.
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Speaker 3: When I talk about a coach that Not only is
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Speaker 3: he a great schemer and tactician and all that stuff,
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Speaker 3: but his leadership skills, I think I've been more impressed
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Speaker 3: with than anything else. His understanding of the moment and
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Speaker 3: what the team needs, man, is spectacular.
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Speaker 2: Off the charts.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and because I'm privy to being in the locker room, pregame, postgame, halftime,
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Speaker 3: to really see it is one thing to see people
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Speaker 3: pontificate in front of the podium and, hey, we're this
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Speaker 3: and that. It's another thing to see them live it out.
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Speaker 3: What he says, he believes. And what he identifies as
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Speaker 3: the issues, he can solve them. Not every coach can
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Speaker 3: do that. And one of the reasons why this team
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Speaker 3: has so much belief in their coach is because he
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Speaker 3: is able to provide the answers in real time. That
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Speaker 3: is different than what a lot of coaches are able
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Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's special stuff. I'm like you. I've been around
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Speaker 2: great ones. This guy's a great one. I mean, he's...
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Speaker 2: After this number of games, you can see it. I
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Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. We'll get into the Texans' offense
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Speaker 2: here in a second. I thought it was interesting what
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Speaker 2: he said in that sound off the top. It's a rivalry.
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Speaker 2: And rivalries aren't rivalries, Bucky, until each team has hurt
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Speaker 2: the other. And last year, each team hurt the other.
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Speaker 2: The Jags won the division, won early. The Texans beat...
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Speaker 2: the Jags over there, they've inflicted pain, drawn blood, and
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Speaker 2: each team has reason to be motivated. This is a rivalry.
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Speaker 2: People around the league wouldn't see it as one of
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Speaker 2: the best, but it's hot.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it absolutely is hot. And I wonder if, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, in my take, I know in
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville there are a lot of people that still look
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Speaker 3: to Tennessee as their rivalry. But I would say, like,
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Speaker 3: there is this competitive disdain between the Texans and the Jaguars,
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Speaker 3: where their rivalry is real and intense. Like, there is
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Speaker 3: a very contentious, combative nature when these two teams square off.
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Speaker 3: And I love these games because no matter what we
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Speaker 3: think football is, it is going to be at a
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Speaker 3: higher level when these teams square off on Sunday. The physicality,
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Speaker 3: the urgency, the emotional swings that take place when these
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Speaker 3: two teams match up, It's going to be great. And
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say this. I am glad that D'Amico
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Speaker 3: Ryan has taken back the call sheet. I am glad
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Speaker 3: they got Marvin Harrison Jr. I like seeing teams where
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Speaker 3: they're at their best. To me, this is a great
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Speaker 3: matchup for us to just kind of do a self-check.
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Speaker 3: Where are we at within this division? We pride ourselves
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Speaker 3: in our physicality and toughness. Well, look, this team wears
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Speaker 3: it like a badge of honor in terms of the Texans.
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Speaker 3: They think they're the roughest, toughest guys on the block.
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Speaker 3: And so in these games, we get a chance to
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Speaker 3: see who we are and what we're about. I am
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Speaker 3: really looking forward to it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. You and I have talked
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Speaker 2: a lot, Bucky, about, look, the Texans obviously wear that badge,
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Speaker 2: and I think the nation sort of sees that in them.
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Speaker 2: But I wrote this week for something that's going to be– look,
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Speaker 2: the Texans will hit you in the mouth. But the Jaguars–
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Speaker 2: That's the Jaguars as much as it is the Texans.
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Speaker 2: I just don't think for some reason they have the
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Speaker 2: national rep with that. But Jags will hit first. It
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Speaker 2: will be a game like that, and I don't think
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Speaker 2: either side gives up anything in that regard. Let's go
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Speaker 2: to the Texans' offense first. C.J. Stroud, 6-0, meaning six touchdowns,
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Speaker 2: no interceptions. Is he playing to that, Bucky? Is he
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Speaker 2: playing as well as his stats indicate?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really solid. And this is the C.J. Stroud
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Speaker 3: that I've known since watching him in high school, watching
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Speaker 3: him at his best at Ohio State, and then really
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Speaker 3: early in the league when he's playing really, really well.
19:43
Speaker 3: He's a very efficient player. He understands how to play
19:46
Speaker 3: winning football. And you can't go to three straight playoff appearances.
19:50
Speaker 3: in your first three years without understanding how to lead
19:52
Speaker 3: the team to the winner's circle. So he has that.
19:55
Speaker 3: What he's been able to do is work around the
19:58
Speaker 3: fact that they didn't have Nico Collins for some of
20:00
Speaker 3: those games. He didn't have a true number one receiver.
20:02
Speaker 3: And so he's had to play with a collection of
20:06
Speaker 3: spare parts on the perimeters. Well, now they bring Nico
20:09
Speaker 3: Collins back. They go and get Marvin Harrison Jr., who
20:11
Speaker 3: he's known since his time at Ohio State. And so
20:14
Speaker 3: it will be a different offense, a big offense on
20:18
Speaker 3: the perimeter when you think about Nico and Marvin Harrison Jr.,
20:21
Speaker 3: who I would presume is going to play because they
20:24
Speaker 3: traded for him. I think they're going to put him
20:26
Speaker 3: right on the field and show off their new toy.
20:29
Speaker 3: And so this is a good matchup. And C.J. Stroud
20:32
Speaker 3: really is taking care of the football. So this will
20:35
Speaker 3: be one. Can you? one, affect him with the pass rush,
20:38
Speaker 3: and two, can you find a way to either trick
20:41
Speaker 3: him or to make him force the ball into tight
20:44
Speaker 3: windows where you can find a way to turn him
20:46
Speaker 3: over because he's done a really good job avoiding turnovers.
20:50
Speaker 2: Nobody talks about the running game except that it struggles
20:54
Speaker 2: at times, I think, the Texans. Can they run at
20:57
Speaker 2: all against the Jaguars? And if they can't, I guess
21:01
Speaker 2: what I'm getting at is considering the Texans don't depend
21:04
Speaker 2: on the run the way a lot of teams do,
21:07
Speaker 2: there's the fact that the Jaguars are elite if they
21:10
Speaker 2: stop the run the way they already have. How much
21:13
Speaker 2: does that matter this week? Because obviously the Jaguars' superpower
21:18
Speaker 2: defensively is they are elite, elite, elite running. How much
21:22
Speaker 2: does that matter this week?
21:24
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it matters because the one thing that
21:26
Speaker 3: you cannot do when you're unable to run the ball
21:29
Speaker 3: is you can never gain control of the game. One
21:31
Speaker 3: of the reasons why I feel so confident that the
21:33
Speaker 3: Jaguars are finding a way to win against the Eagles
21:34
Speaker 3: is Look, man, they couldn't run the ball at all.
21:36
Speaker 3: They couldn't move it. I mean, they couldn't get six
21:38
Speaker 3: inches if they wanted to. Well, with the Texans, they
21:41
Speaker 3: don't have a dominant running game, but they got really
21:43
Speaker 3: good players. So if you're the Jaguars, you want to
21:46
Speaker 3: take the run game away and you want to make C.J.
21:48
Speaker 3: Stroud have to throw it 40 to 45 times because
21:51
Speaker 3: the odds go up that bad things are going to
21:53
Speaker 3: happen when you put the ball in the air that often,
21:56
Speaker 3: whether it's sacks, strip sacks, interceptions off tipped or overthrown balls.
22:01
Speaker 3: The odds go up when you're able to force the
22:03
Speaker 3: Texans into a one-dimensional attack where they have to rely
22:06
Speaker 3: on the passing game. Priority number one has to be
22:09
Speaker 3: stopping the run no matter what, and then it's about
22:11
Speaker 3: playing good defense on, I would say, a very talented
22:15
Speaker 3: receiving court now that you have two big-body playmakers on
22:17
Speaker 3: the perimeter.
22:20
Speaker 2: It's very easy to say in one statement, Texans are
22:23
Speaker 2: a great defense, and they are. Everybody knows Will Anderson.
22:27
Speaker 2: Everybody knows Daniel Hunter. How, within that, give me some nuance.
22:36
Speaker 2: How are they playing this year? How dominant are they?
22:40
Speaker 2: I mean, they were a force last year when the
22:43
Speaker 2: Jaguars played. I think a lot of Jaguars fans remember
22:45
Speaker 2: sort of this rolling ball that felt like Trevor had
22:49
Speaker 2: no time. Are they that? Just sort of give me
22:53
Speaker 2: some nuance on the Texans' defense.
22:56
Speaker 3: Really good, really talented. First thing that stands out, they
23:00
Speaker 3: have dudes. I mean, they have legitimate dudes at every level.
23:04
Speaker 3: When you think about the way that you want to
23:06
Speaker 3: build a championship caliber defense, they're one of the blueprints
23:09
Speaker 3: that you want to follow. Two dominant pass rushers in
23:12
Speaker 3: Will Anderson and Daniil Hunter, an active and aggressive inside
23:16
Speaker 3: linebacker in Aziz El-Shahir. They have a talented cornerback in
23:21
Speaker 3: Derek Stingley, and then a big-time playmaker in the middle
23:24
Speaker 3: of that in Jalen Petrie. So at every level, they
23:28
Speaker 3: have a blue-chip player. And what they've done... early their struggles,
23:33
Speaker 3: maybe they were trying to do too much with their talent.
23:35
Speaker 3: D'Amico Ryan's takes over. And if anyone had an opportunity
23:38
Speaker 3: to listen to Robert Sala do a defensive breakdown, it's
23:41
Speaker 3: on Twitter somewhere. You can just listen to what he
23:43
Speaker 3: talked about. He talked about what D'Amico has learned heading
23:46
Speaker 3: into the matchup last week. D'Amico Ryan's keeps it simple
23:50
Speaker 3: because John, when my guys are better than your guys,
23:53
Speaker 3: I need to get out the way and not mess
23:55
Speaker 3: them up. And so they play fast. They're physical. They're violent.
24:00
Speaker 3: and they believe that they can hit you into submission.
24:03
Speaker 3: And so the challenge this week is not even the
24:06
Speaker 3: execution part of it with the Jaguars, is can you
24:09
Speaker 3: stand toe-to-toe in the ring and engage in a slugfest
24:13
Speaker 3: with a team that loves to throw these haymakers? Because
24:17
Speaker 3: if we can, then we'll eventually win that.
24:18
Speaker 2: How much does it help, Bucky? Sorry about that, Buck.
24:23
Speaker 2: How much does it help the fact that the Jaguars–
24:28
Speaker 2: have experienced that with them. Meaning last year they played them,
24:33
Speaker 2: they played them toe to toe. I mean, look, the
24:36
Speaker 2: Texans won that game, but the Jaguars, it was not
24:39
Speaker 2: a blowout. It was a weird game. How much has
24:44
Speaker 2: it helped to have been in the ring, so to speak,
24:47
Speaker 2: already and taken the punch and know how they're going
24:50
Speaker 2: to do it?
24:51
Speaker 3: It's everything. I mean, look, I would equate this rivalry
24:53
Speaker 3: to what we think about when we look at Sunday
24:55
Speaker 3: night football and we see the Pittsburgh Steelers and the
24:57
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Everybody knows what it is when it's on
25:00
Speaker 3: the schedule. Everyone knows, okay, it's Texans week. And I
25:06
Speaker 3: found it interesting immediately after the game when I talked
25:09
Speaker 3: to Liam. He talked about last week was a little
25:12
Speaker 3: wonky with the practice schedule. We had some injuries. We
25:15
Speaker 3: couldn't really put on the pads and have tough practices.
25:18
Speaker 3: This week, you can best believe we're going to get
25:20
Speaker 3: back to it. And so normally when you have those
25:23
Speaker 3: games and people talk about the 14 padded practices, I
25:27
Speaker 3: guarantee that they have multiple pedigree.
25:28
Speaker 2: Save one for this week.
25:31
Speaker 3: To make sure that you get ready for the physicality.
25:34
Speaker 3: But I'm going to say this because I want to
25:35
Speaker 3: make sure it doesn't come off. There's no fear factor
25:39
Speaker 3: for the Jaguars when it comes to meeting or exceeding
25:42
Speaker 3: that physicality. As you talked about it, this is who
25:45
Speaker 3: the Jaguars are. They're physical. They're edgy. They're feisty. And
25:52
Speaker 3: I would expect if you thought the Eagles game early
25:55
Speaker 3: was feisty, get your popcorn ready. It's going to be,
25:59
Speaker 3: it's going to be on the edge from beginning to
26:01
Speaker 3: end when the Texans come into the stadium.
26:05
Speaker 4: Yeah.
26:05
Speaker 2: I've gotten emails from fans this week saying they're nervous
26:08
Speaker 2: about it. Uh, anxiety, the Texans, this Texans, that Bucky,
26:14
Speaker 2: this is why you like the league. I mean, you
26:18
Speaker 2: go through years of not having big games to get
26:23
Speaker 2: to games like this. We know who else is nervous.
26:26
Speaker 2: Texans fans, I mean, this is the kind of game
26:30
Speaker 2: that this league's about. It's what makes it enjoyable. It's
26:34
Speaker 2: what makes it great. We're going to go to break.
26:38
Speaker 2: Back in a moment, we'll talk more about the Jaguars' defense,
26:41
Speaker 2: a little bit more about the defense, because this is
26:42
Speaker 2: going to be a defensive game. This is Huddle Up
26:44
Speaker 2: with Bucky Brooks. Yeah, he did a good job.
26:57
Speaker 3: Did a nice job.
26:58
Speaker 5: He's long. He did some really good things in the
27:00
Speaker 5: run game. And so anytime you're playing good rushers, you
27:03
Speaker 5: got to have a plan. It takes all 11. It's
27:06
Speaker 5: not just those tackles, right? It's having a plan in
27:08
Speaker 5: the chip game. It's having decision, timing, accuracy, getting the
27:13
Speaker 5: ball out, having a plan. So it takes a village.
27:16
Speaker 5: It's not just really about one guy. So that's kind
27:19
Speaker 5: of on all of us.
27:23
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
27:26
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27:31
Speaker 2: Health Association. Benefits for federal employees and retirees. And, Bucky,
27:37
Speaker 2: I'm going to get into the Jaguars' run defense. It's epic.
27:42
Speaker 2: It's elite. But Walker Little playing against this group– I
27:52
Speaker 2: guess I got so many questions in the offseason. Why
27:55
Speaker 2: don't they trade Walker Little? Because he wasn't starting. He
27:58
Speaker 2: has a contract. To me, this is a perfect example of,
28:02
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost comical to me in the offseason
28:07
Speaker 2: how fans watch the NFL every year and forget that
28:12
Speaker 2: not every player plays 17 games. To me, I get
28:18
Speaker 2: that Walker has his flaws. He's had his moments, whatever.
28:21
Speaker 2: He's a guy who started a lot of games, and
28:23
Speaker 2: this is good depth.
28:25
Speaker 3: It is good depth. He's a starter. And I think
28:28
Speaker 3: what we have to do in Jacksonville is look at
28:30
Speaker 3: the offensive line as one that is six to play five,
28:33
Speaker 3: meaning we have six starters, but they're only five positions.
28:36
Speaker 3: But that six man is a very valuable player, and
28:40
Speaker 3: he's a starter. So Walker Little, in my mind, is
28:42
Speaker 3: a starter at swing tackle. He's stepping in for Anton Harrison.
28:47
Speaker 3: Cole Van Linden is on the other side. They have
28:48
Speaker 3: to figure out how to handle– a very athletic and
28:53
Speaker 3: active set of pass rushers. Huge challenge. But some of
28:57
Speaker 3: this will be negated by what the Jaguars do in
28:59
Speaker 3: terms of getting the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hands.
29:02
Speaker 3: It is the same front that had a lot of
29:04
Speaker 3: issues dealing with the Jaguars passing game in their place
29:08
Speaker 3: last year when we ran out to, it seemed like,
29:10
Speaker 3: 30 points right away. So, look, it won't be the
29:14
Speaker 3: same game, but I certainly believe that we can block
29:16
Speaker 3: them with the assistance of some good play callings some timing,
29:21
Speaker 3: some things that you can do from a motion and
29:23
Speaker 3: a bunch and a condensed formation standpoint to help the
29:26
Speaker 3: quarterback out. Walker Lillard is going to play and he's
29:28
Speaker 3: going to play very well because they're going to put
29:30
Speaker 3: him in a position to play well.
29:33
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you about some specifics with the
29:35
Speaker 2: run defense in a minute, but I thought maybe one
29:39
Speaker 2: thing that got overlooked. against the Eagles was Josh Hines-Allen
29:42
Speaker 2: had a big-time game. Sometimes just when you don't get
29:46
Speaker 2: a sack as an edge rusher, it's easy to overlook.
29:50
Speaker 2: He was violent. He was physical. It's more than Devon.
29:54
Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton's a huge deal about why his run defense
29:57
Speaker 2: is good. But Josh Hines-Allen had a big game on Sunday.
30:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a big game because he was– look, man,
30:04
Speaker 3: I think the word of the day is active. And
30:07
Speaker 3: when we talk about active, we talk about the relentless
30:11
Speaker 3: effort that you expect your top guys to play with.
30:14
Speaker 3: And sometimes it doesn't show up in the box score
30:16
Speaker 3: in terms of pressure, sacks, or whatever. But I believe
30:20
Speaker 3: it's presence that matters. Do they feel you? Are you around?
30:24
Speaker 3: Does the quarterback sense that you're in the paint? where
30:27
Speaker 3: he has to change because you're getting close and you're nearby. Yes,
30:31
Speaker 3: he is around. He's been able to do that. He
30:33
Speaker 3: and Trayvon are both there. And I think their physicality,
30:39
Speaker 3: their toughness, and then obviously just their overall stamina in
30:44
Speaker 3: terms of being able to play at a high level
30:45
Speaker 3: down after down after down after down. Because remember, early
30:48
Speaker 3: in this game, Brian Thomas Jr. first played the game.
30:50
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr., who was expected to kind of be
30:52
Speaker 3: in the rotation, he's out. So now these guys have
30:54
Speaker 3: to lock even more snaps against the Eagles. Didn't bat
30:57
Speaker 3: an eye. Didn't blink. I think that's the part that
31:00
Speaker 3: I appreciate about this squad. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter, man.
31:04
Speaker 3: They just line it up. Put the ball down. Let's
31:05
Speaker 3: go play.
31:08
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that you talked about stamina. I haven't
31:11
Speaker 2: thought about that until you mentioned it. But you're right.
31:14
Speaker 2: This is not a team that comes out and plays
31:22
Speaker 2: well in the first quarter and then all of a
31:24
Speaker 2: sudden it's gone away by 10 minutes left. the Jaguars defense,
31:28
Speaker 2: whatever it is, uh, plays hard the whole game. Uh,
31:35
Speaker 2: and again, not every team does that. Not every team
31:37
Speaker 2: has that consistency. I guess we talked about earlier in
31:39
Speaker 2: the show, the consistency that this defense plays with. It
31:43
Speaker 2: really is something that can be relied on. You're not,
31:49
Speaker 2: you don't worry very much about these guys not showing
31:52
Speaker 2: up for a series or two.
31:55
Speaker 3: No, you don't, you don't worry about it. And, Look,
31:57
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of things that we
32:00
Speaker 3: all wish that would happen, right? You wish they were
32:02
Speaker 3: shut down defense where they could have these great sack numbers.
32:06
Speaker 3: There's all this sorcery and magic where we talk about
32:10
Speaker 3: the exotic schemes and the pressure and all that. That's
32:13
Speaker 3: not how this team is built. This team is what
32:15
Speaker 3: I call a fundamentally sound team. They do the really
32:18
Speaker 3: important things really well. They run to the ball. They tackle.
32:23
Speaker 3: They line up in the right spots and they play
32:25
Speaker 3: their assignments by and large. And when you do that,
32:27
Speaker 3: you play great defense. That is really what's happening. And
32:31
Speaker 3: I always lean on you because of your experiences with
32:33
Speaker 3: the Colts and Tony Dungy and how Tony Dungy would
32:36
Speaker 3: keep it very, very simple so the players can play fast.
32:39
Speaker 3: I think Anthony Campanile has the ability to make it
32:42
Speaker 3: simple so the guys can play fast while presenting a
32:45
Speaker 3: far more complex picture to the opponent. And that combination
32:51
Speaker 3: has really allowed the Jaguars to steadily improve despite being
32:54
Speaker 3: a team that really had a solid foundation in place
32:57
Speaker 3: when he took over.
33:00
Speaker 2: Let me throw something out that is interesting to me.
33:04
Speaker 2: Maybe this team's really built. Like if you look at
33:09
Speaker 2: this team from a 30,000 point view, it's supposed to
33:15
Speaker 2: score in, in the 27, 28 range. Right. And I
33:21
Speaker 2: guess what I'm getting at more is not supposed to,
33:23
Speaker 2: but I trust that, Over the last 12 games of
33:27
Speaker 2: this season, we saw it last year where they hit
33:30
Speaker 2: a run where they're scoring, man. This defense, the way
33:35
Speaker 2: it's playing right now and the way it's built, is
33:38
Speaker 2: more than good enough to support a huge run once
33:44
Speaker 2: the offense gets its footing to where we think it's
33:47
Speaker 2: going to go. Am I reading that right?
33:50
Speaker 3: No, I think you are reading it right. And part
33:52
Speaker 3: of being able to play complimentary football is being able
33:54
Speaker 3: to make sure that your defense is built to compliment
33:56
Speaker 3: the offense that you believe that you have. We believe
33:59
Speaker 3: that we'll have an explosive offense that gets in the
34:02
Speaker 3: upper 20s on the board. Well, that means that your
34:05
Speaker 3: defense must be able to rush the passer and play
34:09
Speaker 3: really good coverage. We are still a work in progress,
34:12
Speaker 3: I believe, in terms of trying to figure out what's
34:14
Speaker 3: the best way for us to cover, given our personnel.
34:18
Speaker 3: You have some guys that are really good man-to-man guys
34:21
Speaker 3: like Travis Hunter. You have other guys that are built
34:24
Speaker 3: and better suited to play zone like Monteric Brown. And
34:26
Speaker 3: then you have some blenders like Jarrion Jones and others.
34:30
Speaker 3: I think we're still trying to figure out the back
34:32
Speaker 3: end part while wanting the front end to do more.
34:35
Speaker 3: But yeah, this team is constructed to really, meaning this unit,
34:40
Speaker 3: this defense is built to complement an offense that gives
34:43
Speaker 3: you a 14-point lead early and allows the defense to
34:46
Speaker 3: hunt because they can stop the run and then they
34:48
Speaker 3: can find a way to suffocate the passing air.
34:52
Speaker 2: Let's grind down on this run defense a little bit,
34:55
Speaker 2: which is, I mean, it's getting to the point where
34:59
Speaker 2: it's going to be historically good. The improvement since 24, dramatic. 25,
35:05
Speaker 2: they're even better in yards per carry. They're 3.9 last year,
35:07
Speaker 2: 2.9 this year.
35:08
Speaker 3: They are.
35:15
Speaker 2: Very, very good giving up rushing touchdowns, which is a
35:19
Speaker 2: very hidden stat in the league. Most people think great
35:22
Speaker 2: teams don't give up a lot of rushing touchdowns because
35:25
Speaker 2: they're controlling that dynamic inside their own red zone. They're, what,
35:29
Speaker 2: 20 yards better than they were against the run last
35:33
Speaker 2: year already. I don't expect the 63 yards a game
35:36
Speaker 2: to hold, Bucky. I guess we've talked about it a
35:41
Speaker 2: couple of times, but I'm fascinated by it. Give me
35:43
Speaker 2: some X's and O's about just why this team is
35:47
Speaker 2: so good against you. I've been around run defenses. We're like, well,
35:50
Speaker 2: maybe they're not that good. Teams just are throwing so
35:52
Speaker 2: much on them. But in the last couple of games,
35:57
Speaker 2: this team stops the run even when teams are trying
36:01
Speaker 2: to do it.
36:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes down to physicality and fit. You got
36:07
Speaker 3: to be ultra physical at the point of attack. Meaning
36:10
Speaker 3: if we're looking at the game on TV, and the
36:12
Speaker 3: ball is on the 30-yard line. Defensively, we want to
36:16
Speaker 3: play on the 28-yard line, meaning we're playing in their backfield.
36:20
Speaker 3: So the physicality has to be we're up front. We're
36:22
Speaker 3: dominating the line of scrimmage. The other part of that
36:25
Speaker 3: that goes with that is now you've got to fit
36:27
Speaker 3: the run up right. There are eight gaps that you
36:31
Speaker 3: have to defend. You've got to make sure that you
36:32
Speaker 3: plug a gap with a defender. Can your defense be
36:35
Speaker 3: disciplined enough that everyone hits their assigned gap down after
36:38
Speaker 3: down after down against different formations? and different plays that
36:43
Speaker 3: change where the gaps are. What the Jaguars have been
36:45
Speaker 3: able to do is they're playing on the other side
36:47
Speaker 3: of the line of scrimmage, and they're flowing fast to
36:50
Speaker 3: fit their gaps, and the combination of that is leading
36:53
Speaker 3: to a lot of success on early down run game,
36:56
Speaker 3: and they're forcing people to have long yardage situations which
37:00
Speaker 3: should go advantage defense, even though we've been a little
37:04
Speaker 3: leaky when it comes to some of those third and longs.
37:07
Speaker 2: We're going to break here in a second, but how
37:09
Speaker 2: important is– is a Ventrell Miller, uh, his level of play,
37:15
Speaker 2: I guess people are noticing it, but maybe a little overlooked. Um,
37:21
Speaker 2: how much is his level of play mattered in this
37:23
Speaker 2: improvement over what was already strong?
37:26
Speaker 3: Look, man, he's, he's everything because the one thing I
37:30
Speaker 3: know about Ventrell being on the sideline, I hear him
37:33
Speaker 3: before I see him. And when I say I hear him,
37:37
Speaker 3: it's not about the dog, the dog barking. It is
37:39
Speaker 3: all about the bite. He is a guy that, man,
37:42
Speaker 3: he looks at runners right in their eyes, and he
37:45
Speaker 3: kisses them face first. Like, he does not blink when
37:48
Speaker 3: it comes to the contact. And then when it comes
37:51
Speaker 3: to his energy and urgency, it's contagious. There's a race
37:57
Speaker 3: to the football. And, John, you've been around, like, I mean,
37:59
Speaker 3: you're around Saxonville defense. When that thing gets going, it
38:02
Speaker 3: is like a feeding frenzy in terms of, like, how
38:05
Speaker 3: guys are obsessed with making plays. Sometimes, particularly in a
38:09
Speaker 3: game like this that's coming up, you kind of need
38:12
Speaker 3: the guy who's going to start the party, who is
38:15
Speaker 3: going to start the hit party, who's going to be
38:16
Speaker 3: the guy that delivers the big hit. I always have
38:19
Speaker 3: my money on 51 being one of the first ones
38:21
Speaker 3: to drop the big lick that kind of gets this
38:22
Speaker 3: team energized and ready to go on defense.
38:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have never really talked to Liam about this,
38:28
Speaker 2: but I imagine he loves Ventrell Miller. Just the attitude,
38:32
Speaker 2: the approach, he sort of reminds me of Liam's personality
38:35
Speaker 2: on the field. Just never not into it, right? Never
38:38
Speaker 2: checks out. never isn't engaged, the whole thing. So it's
38:43
Speaker 2: cool because if you ever talk to Ventrell, nobody loves
38:46
Speaker 2: football like this kid. I mean, it's fun to see
38:50
Speaker 2: a guy like him succeed. When we return, we're going
38:52
Speaker 2: to quickly look at the AFC South, which obviously ratchets
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Speaker 2: up on Sunday, on Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 3: It's not something we're going to talk about at all.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think in the past we had, I thought,
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Speaker 4: just more of towards the end of last season and
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Speaker 4: I guess maybe a little bit this offseason, we felt
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Speaker 4: like that really kind of spurred us on in a
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Speaker 4: good direction. Last year after that game, we really, it
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Speaker 4: was kind of a wake-up call for us. But no,
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Speaker 4: it's not something that I think we're pretty far past
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Speaker 4: that now. And this is a new year, new teams
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Speaker 4: on both sides. sides, and we just got to put
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Speaker 4: together a good plan to go try to beat these
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Speaker 4: guys this year.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: through this final segment. But I thought it was pretty
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Speaker 2: pertinent what Trevor said. Look, it's a rivalry, but you
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Speaker 2: don't get the feeling that they're necessarily obsessed with the
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Speaker 2: circumstances of 36-29 last year as much as, look, this
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Speaker 2: is the game. I'm sure we'll feel this way when
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Speaker 2: they play the Colts in a couple weeks. But this
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Speaker 2: is 13-4 versus 12-5 last year. From the Jaguars' point
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Speaker 2: of view, it's a chance to push the Texans way back.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't care if the
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Speaker 2: Texans are 1-4. This isn't going to feel like a 1-4,
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Speaker 2: 4-1 game when it kicks off on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not going to feel like that. And I
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Speaker 3: think we understand who they are and what they're about.
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Speaker 3: And the good thing about this, it's a robbery game.
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Speaker 3: So it wouldn't matter if they were 0-5, 0-11. We
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Speaker 3: want to beat them. We're not too far removed from
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Speaker 3: when Aziz Al-Jahir put Trevor Lawrence to sleep in the
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Speaker 3: bank and it made the defense, it made the team
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Speaker 3: feel a certain kind of way. So it won't be
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Speaker 3: talked about, but from that point on, it's always on
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Speaker 3: when the Texans and Jaguars score off. This is a
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Speaker 3: game where I think you got to focus. You got
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Speaker 3: to keep the emotions in check because ultimately, man, it's
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Speaker 3: going to come down to execution. Can we do the
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Speaker 3: things that we have been coached to do down after
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Speaker 3: down after down? despite the physicality, despite the noise, despite
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Speaker 3: all the things around it, can we lock in and
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Speaker 3: focus on being able to dominate the Texans six seconds
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Speaker 3: at a time? Because if we do that, at the
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Speaker 3: end of the game, we'll like what the results are
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Speaker 3: going to be.
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Speaker 2: How does it play out? How do you see it?
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Speaker 3: I think we get this done. I think there's going
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Speaker 3: to be a lot of excitement about it. But I'm
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Speaker 3: going to say this. I mean, it can't be much
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Speaker 3: tighter than it was last week. We're growing accustomed to
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Speaker 3: being in these type of games. So to me, I
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Speaker 3: think this is a game where it's going to be
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Speaker 3: the most physical game that the Jaguars have been in.
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Speaker 3: But it's going to come down to Trevor having to
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Speaker 3: make some plays in the fourth quarter and the defense
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Speaker 3: being able to get off the field in the final
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Speaker 3: five minutes. I look for us to win. I think
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Speaker 3: it's going to be close. But I think we're going
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Speaker 3: to find a way to get it done like we
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Speaker 3: always do.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Already coming up on the bye, 4-1. It's been,
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Speaker 2: you know, the Jaguars have done a nice job getting
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Speaker 2: through what on paper was a really tricky first part
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Speaker 2: of the season. Yes, you dropped it to Denver, but
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Speaker 2: you beat the defending AFC champs beat Cincinnati up there.
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Speaker 2: A big win against the Eagles, who I still think
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Speaker 2: will be a playoff team by the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: So look, this is a chance to create big time separation,
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Speaker 2: a huge game. This is what you play for. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's another tough professional football game and it's the kind
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Speaker 2: that you've got to get to get to the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: So that's it. I'm going to say goodbye. For Brent Reber,
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Speaker 2: for Joe Fortunato, for Max Hockman, for Dave Buchandis, for everybody,
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Speaker 2: for Bucky Brooks, goodbye from the Grove, and we'll see
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Speaker 2: you on Sunday.