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- 0:00Speaker 1: Volume two, Chapter twelve of the Autobiography of Madame Quillon.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: visit LibriVox dot org. I had at that time so
- 0:24Speaker 1: ardent a desire for the perfection of Mather la Combe,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and to see him thoroughly die to himself. That I
- 0:32Speaker 1: could have wished him all the crosses and afflictions imaginable
- 0:38Speaker 1: that my conduce to this great and blessed end, whenever
- 0:42Speaker 1: he was unfaithful or looked at things in any other
- 0:47Speaker 1: light than the true one, to tend to this death
- 0:52Speaker 1: of self. I felt myself on the rug, which, as
- 0:57Speaker 1: I had till then been so indifferent, very much surprised me.
- 1:03Speaker 1: To the Lord. I made my complain. He graciously encouraged me,
- 1:10Speaker 1: both on this subject and on that entire dependence on
- 1:15Speaker 1: himself which He gave me, which was such that I
- 1:20Speaker 1: was like a new born infant. My sister had brought
- 1:25Speaker 1: me a maid whom God was willing to give me
- 1:29Speaker 1: to fashion according to his will, not without some crucifixion
- 1:35Speaker 1: to myself. I believe it never is to fall out
- 1:40Speaker 1: that our Lord will give me any persons without giving
- 1:44Speaker 1: them wherewith to make me suffer, whether it be for
- 1:49Speaker 1: the purpose of drawing them into a spiritual life, or
- 1:54Speaker 1: never to leave me without the cross. She was one
- 1:59Speaker 1: on whom the Lord had conferred very singular graces. She
- 2:05Speaker 1: was in high reputation of the country, where she passed
- 2:10Speaker 1: for a saint. Our Lord brought her to me to
- 2:15Speaker 1: let her see the difference between the sanctity conceived and
- 2:20Speaker 1: comprised in those gifts with which she was in doubt,
- 2:25Speaker 1: and that which is obtained by our entire destruction, even
- 2:30Speaker 1: by the loss of those very gifts, and of all
- 2:34Speaker 1: that raised us in the esteem of men. Our Lord
- 2:39Speaker 1: had given her the same dependence on me as I
- 2:43Speaker 1: had in regard to Father la Combe. This girl felt
- 2:49Speaker 1: grievously sick. I was willing to give her all the
- 2:53Speaker 1: assistance in my power, but I found I had nothing
- 2:58Speaker 1: to do but to come demanded her bodily sickness, all
- 3:02Speaker 1: the disposition of her mind. All that I said was done.
- 3:08Speaker 1: It was then that I learned what it was to
- 3:11Speaker 1: command by the word and to pay by the word.
- 3:16Speaker 1: It was Jesus Christ in me, equally commanding and paying She, however,
- 3:24Speaker 1: continued sick for some time. One day, after dinner, I
- 3:30Speaker 1: was moved to say to her, rise and be no
- 3:35Speaker 1: longer sick. She aroused and was cured. The nuns were
- 3:41Speaker 1: very much astonished. They knew nothing of what had passed,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but so her walking, who in the morning had appeared
- 3:51Speaker 1: to be in the last extremity. They attributed her disorder
- 3:58Speaker 1: to a vivid imagination. I had, at sundry times experience
- 4:04Speaker 1: and felt in myself how much God respects the freedom
- 4:09Speaker 1: of men, even demands his free concurrence. For when I said,
- 4:15Speaker 1: be healed, or be free from your troubles, if such
- 4:21Speaker 1: persons acquiescence, the word was efficacious, and they were healed.
- 4:28Speaker 1: If they doubted or resisted. Though under fair pretext saying
- 4:35Speaker 1: I shall be healed when it pleases God, I will
- 4:39Speaker 1: not be healed till he willest or in the way
- 4:44Speaker 1: of despair, I cannot be healed. I will not quit
- 4:48Speaker 1: my condition. Then the word had no effect. I felt
- 4:54Speaker 1: in myself that the divine virtue retired in me. I
- 5:01Speaker 1: experienced what our Lord said when the woman afflicted with
- 5:05Speaker 1: the issue of blood touched him, he instantly asked who
- 5:11Speaker 1: touched me? The apostle, said, Master, the multitude thronged thee
- 5:18Speaker 1: and pressed thee, and sayest thou who touched me? He replied,
- 5:25Speaker 1: it is because virtue hath gone out of me. Look
- 5:30Speaker 1: eight forty five forty six Jesus Christ had caused that
- 5:36Speaker 1: healing virtue to flow through me by means of his word.
- 5:42Speaker 1: When that virtue met not with the correspondence in the subject,
- 5:47Speaker 1: I felt it suspended in its source. That gave me
- 5:53Speaker 1: some pain. I should be, as it were, displeased with
- 5:58Speaker 1: those persons. But when there was no resistance but a
- 6:03Speaker 1: full acquiescence, this divine virtue had its full effect. Healing
- 6:11Speaker 1: virtue has so much power over things inanimate, yet the
- 6:17Speaker 1: least thing in man either restrains it or stops it entirely.
- 6:25Speaker 1: There was a good nun, much afflicted, and under a
- 6:28Speaker 1: violent temptation. She went to declare her case to a
- 6:33Speaker 1: sister whom she thought very spiritual and in a condition
- 6:39Speaker 1: capable of assisting her. But far from finding succor, she
- 6:45Speaker 1: was very much discouraged and cast down. The other despised
- 6:51Speaker 1: and repulsed her, and treating her with condemned and rigor.
- 6:56Speaker 1: She said, don't come near me. Since you are that way.
- 7:03Speaker 1: This poor girl, in a frightful distress, came to me,
- 7:08Speaker 1: thinking herself undone, on account of what the sister had
- 7:13Speaker 1: said to her. I consulted her, and our Lord relieved
- 7:18Speaker 1: her immediately. But I could not forbear telling her that
- 7:23Speaker 1: assuredly the other would be punished and would fall into
- 7:28Speaker 1: a state worse than hers. The sister, who had used
- 7:35Speaker 1: her in such a manner came also to me, highly
- 7:39Speaker 1: pleased with herself in what she had done, saying she
- 7:45Speaker 1: abhorred such tempted creatures. As for herself she was proved
- 7:52Speaker 1: against such sorts of temptations, and she never had a
- 7:56Speaker 1: bad thought. I said to her, my sister, from the
- 8:02Speaker 1: frendship I have for you, I wish you the pain
- 8:06Speaker 1: of her who spoke to you, and even one still
- 8:12Speaker 1: more violent. She answered haughtily, if you were to ask
- 8:18Speaker 1: it from God for me, and I ask of him
- 8:21Speaker 1: the contrary, I believe I shall be heard at least
- 8:26Speaker 1: as soon as you, I answered, with great firmness. If
- 8:33Speaker 1: it be only my own interests which I ask, I
- 8:37Speaker 1: shall not be heard. But if it be those of
- 8:41Speaker 1: God only and yours too, I shall be heard sooner
- 8:46Speaker 1: than you are aware that very night she fell into
- 8:51Speaker 1: so violent a temptation that one equal to it has
- 8:56Speaker 1: seldom been known. It was then that she had humble
- 9:01Speaker 1: occasion to acknowledge her own weakness, and that she would
- 9:06Speaker 1: be without grace. She conceived at first the violent hatred
- 9:12Speaker 1: for me, saying that I was the cause of her pain.
- 9:18Speaker 1: But it served her as the clay did to enlighten
- 9:22Speaker 1: him who had been born blind. She soon saw very
- 9:28Speaker 1: well what had brought on her so terrible a state.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I fell sick, even to extremity. This sickness proved a
- 9:39Speaker 1: means to cover the great mysteries which, it pleased, got
- 9:43Speaker 1: to operate in me. Scarce, ever, was a disorder more
- 9:49Speaker 1: extraordinary or of longer continuance in its success. Several times
- 9:56Speaker 1: I saw in dreams of Father la Monk raised in
- 10:00Speaker 1: persecutions against me. Our Lord let me know that this
- 10:05Speaker 1: would be, and that Father la Combe would forsake me.
- 10:09Speaker 1: In the time of persecution. I wrote to him, and
- 10:14Speaker 1: he disquieted him greatly. He thought his heart was united
- 10:20Speaker 1: to the will of God, and two desirous of serving
- 10:24Speaker 1: me to admit such desertion. Yet it has since been
- 10:30Speaker 1: found quite true he was now to preach during land,
- 10:35Speaker 1: and was so much followed that people came five weeks
- 10:40Speaker 1: to pass several days for the benefit of his ministry.
- 10:46Speaker 1: I heard he was so sick that he was thought
- 10:49Speaker 1: to die. I prayed to the Lord to restore his
- 10:53Speaker 1: health and enable him to preach to the people who
- 10:57Speaker 1: were longing to hear him. My prayer was heard, and
- 11:02Speaker 1: he soon recovered and resumed his pious labors. During this
- 11:09Speaker 1: extraordinary sickness, which continue more than six months, the Lord
- 11:15Speaker 1: gradually taught me that there was another manner of conversing
- 11:20Speaker 1: among souls, wholly his done by speech. Thou mayst me
- 11:27Speaker 1: conceive O divine word that as thou art ever speaking
- 11:33Speaker 1: and operating in a soul, though the ring thou appearest
- 11:37Speaker 1: in profound silence, So there was also a way of
- 11:42Speaker 1: communication in thy creatures. In an ineffable silence. I heard
- 11:50Speaker 1: then a language which before had been unknown to me.
- 11:56Speaker 1: I gradually perceived, when Father la Combe entered that I
- 12:01Speaker 1: could speak no more, that I was formed in my
- 12:05Speaker 1: soul the same kind of silence toward him as was
- 12:10Speaker 1: forming it in regard to God. I comprehended that God
- 12:17Speaker 1: was willing to show me that men might in this
- 12:21Speaker 1: life learn the language of angels. I was gradually refused
- 12:27Speaker 1: to speak to him, only in silence. It was then
- 12:33Speaker 1: that we understood each other in God. After a manner
- 12:39Speaker 1: unutterable and divine, our hearts spoke to each other, communicating
- 12:47Speaker 1: a grace which no words can express. It was like
- 12:52Speaker 1: a new country, both for him and for me, but
- 12:58Speaker 1: so divine that I cannot describe it. At first. This
- 13:05Speaker 1: was done in a manner so perceptible, that is to say,
- 13:11Speaker 1: God penetrate us with himself, in a manner so pure
- 13:16Speaker 1: and so sweet, that we passed ours in this profound silence,
- 13:22Speaker 1: always communicative without being able to utter one word. It
- 13:31Speaker 1: was in this that we learned, by our own experience,
- 13:37Speaker 1: the operations of the heavenly word to reduce souls into
- 13:42Speaker 1: unity with itself, and what purity one may arrive at
- 13:49Speaker 1: in this life. It was given me to communicate this
- 13:55Speaker 1: way to other good souls. But with this difference I
- 14:00Speaker 1: did nothing but communicate to them the grace with which
- 14:04Speaker 1: they were filled while near me in this sacred silence,
- 14:10Speaker 1: which infused into them an extraordinary strength and grace. But
- 14:16Speaker 1: I received nothing from them. Whereas with Father la combe
- 14:22Speaker 1: that I was aflow, and a return of communication of grace,
- 14:27Speaker 1: which he received from me and I from him in
- 14:32Speaker 1: the greatest purity. In this long malady, the love of
- 14:38Speaker 1: God and of Him alone made up my whole occupation.
- 14:44Speaker 1: I seemed so entirely lost to him as to have
- 14:49Speaker 1: no sight of myself at all. It seemed as if
- 14:54Speaker 1: my heart never came out of that divine ocean, having
- 14:59Speaker 1: been drawn into it through deep humiliations, Oh, happy loss,
- 15:08Speaker 1: which is the communication of bleas though operated through crosses
- 15:14Speaker 1: and through deaths. Jesus was then living in me, and
- 15:21Speaker 1: I lived no more. These words were imprinted in me
- 15:27Speaker 1: as a real estate into which I must enter. The
- 15:32Speaker 1: foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests,
- 15:38Speaker 1: but the son of Man had nowhere to lay his
- 15:43Speaker 1: head Matthew eight, verse twenty. These I have since experienced
- 15:51Speaker 1: in all its extent, having no sure abode nor refuge
- 15:58Speaker 1: among friends who were ashamed of me and openly renounced
- 16:03Speaker 1: me when universally decried, nor among my relations, most of
- 16:10Speaker 1: whom declared themselves my adversaries and were my greatest persecutors,
- 16:18Speaker 1: while others looked on me with condemned and indignation. I might,
- 16:24Speaker 1: as David say, for thy sake, I have borne reproach.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Shame hath covered my face. I am become a stranger
- 16:35Speaker 1: to my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children,
- 16:41Speaker 1: a reproach to men, and despised of the people. He
- 16:46Speaker 1: showed me all the word in a rage against me,
- 16:50Speaker 1: without any one daring to appear for me, and assure me,
- 16:54Speaker 1: in the ineffable silence of his eternal word, that he
- 16:59Speaker 1: would give me vast numbers of children, which I should
- 17:04Speaker 1: bring forth by the cross. I left it to him
- 17:09Speaker 1: to do with me whatever he pleased, esteeming my whole
- 17:14Speaker 1: and sole interest to be placed entirely in his divine will.
- 17:21Speaker 1: He gave me to see how the devil was going
- 17:24Speaker 1: to steer up an outrageous persecution against prayer, Yet it
- 17:31Speaker 1: should prove the source of the same prayer, or rather
- 17:35Speaker 1: the means which God will make use of to establish it.
- 17:41Speaker 1: He gave me to see Father, how he will guide
- 17:45Speaker 1: me into the wilderness, where he will cause me to
- 17:50Speaker 1: be nourished for a time. The winks which were to
- 17:55Speaker 1: bear me thither were the resignation of my whole self
- 17:59Speaker 1: to His holy will. I think I am at present
- 18:04Speaker 1: in that wilderness, separated from the whole world. In my imprisonment,
- 18:11Speaker 1: I see already accomplished in part what was then shown me.
- 18:17Speaker 1: Can I ever express the mercies which my God has
- 18:21Speaker 1: bestowed on me? No, they must ever remain in himself,
- 18:28Speaker 1: being of a nature not to be described, by reason
- 18:32Speaker 1: of their purity and immensity. I was often to all appearance.
- 18:39Speaker 1: At the point of death. I fell into convultions from
- 18:44Speaker 1: violent pains which lasted a long time. Father la Combe
- 18:50Speaker 1: administered the sacrament to me the priorities of the ursolence,
- 18:55Speaker 1: having desired him to do it. I was well s
- 18:59Speaker 1: at WISFI to die, as was he also in the
- 19:03Speaker 1: expectation of my departure. For being united in God after
- 19:09Speaker 1: a manner so pure and so spiritual, death could not
- 19:14Speaker 1: separate us. On the contrary, it would have more closely
- 19:20Speaker 1: united us. Father la Combe, who was on his knees
- 19:25Speaker 1: at my bedside, remarking the change of my countenance and
- 19:30Speaker 1: how my eyes faded, seemed ready to give me up.
- 19:35Speaker 1: When God inspire him to lift up his hands and
- 19:39Speaker 1: with a strong voice, which was heard by all who
- 19:43Speaker 1: were in my room at that time, almost full to
- 19:48Speaker 1: command death to relinquish its hold. Instantly it seemed to
- 19:54Speaker 1: be stopped. Thus God was pleased wonderfully to raise me
- 19:59Speaker 1: up a again. Yet for a long time I continue
- 20:04Speaker 1: extremely weak, during all of which our Lord gave me
- 20:08Speaker 1: new testimonies of his love. How many times was he
- 20:13Speaker 1: pleased to make use of his servant to restore me
- 20:17Speaker 1: to life. When I was almost on the very point
- 20:20Speaker 1: of expiring. As they saw that my sickness and pain
- 20:26Speaker 1: did not entirely end, they judged that the air of
- 20:30Speaker 1: the lake on which the convent was situated was very
- 20:34Speaker 1: prejudicial to my constitution. They concluded that it would be
- 20:40Speaker 1: necessary for me to remove during my disposition. Our Lord
- 20:47Speaker 1: put it into the heart of Father la Combe to
- 20:50Speaker 1: establish a hospital in this place for the poor people
- 20:54Speaker 1: seized with maladi. Is to institute also in a committee
- 20:58Speaker 1: or congregation of ladies to furnish such as could not
- 21:03Speaker 1: leave their families to go to the hospital with the
- 21:07Speaker 1: means of subsistence during their illness. After the manner of France,
- 21:14Speaker 1: there have been yet no institution of this kind in
- 21:18Speaker 1: that country. Willingly did I enter into it, and without
- 21:24Speaker 1: any other fund. That providence and some useless rooms which
- 21:28Speaker 1: a gentleman of the town gave us. We begun it
- 21:34Speaker 1: we dedicated to the Holy Child Jesus, and he was
- 21:38Speaker 1: pleased to give the first beds to it from my pension.
- 21:43Speaker 1: He gave us such a blessing that several other persons
- 21:47Speaker 1: join us in this charity. In a short time, there
- 21:51Speaker 1: were nearly twelve birds in it, and three persons of
- 21:56Speaker 1: great piety gave themselves to this hospital to serve it,
- 22:01Speaker 1: who without any salary, consecrated themselves to the service of
- 22:07Speaker 1: the poor patients. I supplied them with ointments and medicines,
- 22:14Speaker 1: which were freely given to such of the poor people
- 22:17Speaker 1: of the town as had need of them. These good
- 22:22Speaker 1: ladies were so hearty in the cause, that through their
- 22:27Speaker 1: charity and the care of the young women, this hospital
- 22:31Speaker 1: was very well maintained and served. These ladies joined together
- 22:37Speaker 1: also in providing for the Sikh who could not go
- 22:41Speaker 1: to the hospital. I gave them some little regulations, such
- 22:47Speaker 1: as I had observed when in France, which they continued
- 22:51Speaker 1: to keep up with tenderness and love. All these little
- 22:57Speaker 1: things which caused but little and which own all the
- 23:02Speaker 1: success to the blessing which God gave them, drew upon
- 23:06Speaker 1: us new persecutions. The Bishop of Geneva was offended with
- 23:12Speaker 1: me more than ever, especially in seeing that these small
- 23:18Speaker 1: matters rendered me beloved. He said that I won over everybody.
- 23:25Speaker 1: He openly declared that he would not bear me in
- 23:28Speaker 1: his diocese, though I had done nothing but good, or
- 23:33Speaker 1: rather God by me. He extended the persecution to those
- 23:39Speaker 1: good religious women who had been my assistance. The priors
- 23:45Speaker 1: in particular, had his own share to bear, though it
- 23:49Speaker 1: did not last long, as I was obliged on account
- 23:55Speaker 1: of the earth, to remove after having been there about
- 23:59Speaker 1: two years and a half, they were there more in
- 24:02Speaker 1: peace and quietness. On another side, my sister was very
- 24:08Speaker 1: wary of this house, and as the season for the
- 24:12Speaker 1: waters approached, they took occasion from thence to send her
- 24:18Speaker 1: away with the maid whom I brought with me, who
- 24:22Speaker 1: had molested me exceedingly in my late illness. I only
- 24:28Speaker 1: kept her, whom Providence had sent me by means of
- 24:33Speaker 1: my sister. I have ever thought that God had ordered
- 24:37Speaker 1: my sister's journey only to bring her to me, as
- 24:42Speaker 1: one chosen of Him and proper for the state which
- 24:46Speaker 1: it was his pleasure to cause me to bear. While
- 24:52Speaker 1: I was yet indisposed. The Ursulins with the Bishop of
- 24:57Speaker 1: Versails earnestly requested the Father General of the Barnabites to
- 25:04Speaker 1: seek among the religious a man of merit, piety and
- 25:08Speaker 1: learning in whom he might place confidence, and who might
- 25:13Speaker 1: serve him for a prepend and a counselor. At first
- 25:18Speaker 1: he cast his eyes on Father la Combe, Yet before
- 25:23Speaker 1: he absolutely engaged him with the said bishop, he wrote
- 25:28Speaker 1: to him to know whether he had any objection there too.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Father la Combe replied that he had no other will
- 25:39Speaker 1: but that of obeying him, that he might command him
- 25:43Speaker 1: herein as he should think best. In the case, he
- 25:49Speaker 1: gave me an account of this, and that we were
- 25:52Speaker 1: going to be entirely separated. I was glad to find
- 25:57Speaker 1: that our Lord would employ him under a bishop who
- 26:01Speaker 1: knew him and would be likely to do him justice.
- 26:06Speaker 1: Yet it was some time before he went, matters not
- 26:10Speaker 1: being all arranged. End of Chapter twelve Athens Breeze, March
- 26:19Speaker 1: of two thousand nine.