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The Night We Met By Abby Jimenez | May Book Club · Moms That Read

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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Mom City podcast, I'm Kaylee.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm McKinsey, and we finally, I feel like this is like a really anticipated book club because this book has been the talk of the town.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Every time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But we finally have our recap episode on The Night We Met by Abby Hemenez.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And, loved it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad for you because you've been anti-Arabi him and us for a year now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like say you'll remember me?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And and this is part of that like the couple from say you'll remember me is in here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Who?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Xavier and Samantha.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The one who lives here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought about that because it was like, oh, this is number two in blah, blah, blah, and it didn't even like because you have a register to say or remember me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, probably not one two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, before we get into it, we are going to do some recent reads and reads, okay, what are you reading?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, so I have not been reading a lot, um, but I have, I listened, simultaneously to assistant to the villain, which I finally jumped on that bandwagon because I've seen it everywhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to jump on that bandwagon.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's really, it's like four books, I think, um,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: the yearning.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, these people, it's also a very officey.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was very dry sense of humor and just moments where you're like, what these people are stupid.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was kind of, it was really funny.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it is a fantasy where it's like this whole new world that's created and I really enjoyed it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I knew going into it, it was going to be a
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  [SPEAKER_01]: like, not even a match of a burn.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I didn't mind it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I did look up when the like burn finally ignites book three.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They like kiss and end of book two.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh because of how well it was done in the first book like I am intrigued and I'm probably going to finish.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is a little burn now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And because the endodontical finger and like they both are obsessed with each other and they have no idea.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I just wrapped.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: assistant to the villain for the blind books at the base of the game and on the front of it I put slow slow and then underline it three times but like literally but then on the opposite side of that I also just write on my condo the list of things by the miller which I really like so it was an interesting take usually it's like the guy who is the the womanizer and the girl who's like the slow and steady
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  [SPEAKER_01]: opposite roles.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was really interesting because he was like a committed guy and she was like, nah, I'm not in it for the relationship.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it was good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're in college.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of digging that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the second book.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you already know who it's going to be and I'm curious because it kind of back tracks a little bit for the second book because you kind of see the relationship unfold in the first one and then the third book is his sister from the first book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I am listening to fever dream by L.C.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Silver.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're going to love that one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like, but you haven't read the test on spring series.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's the O silver.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So do I need to like, which one though?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like third one or fourth one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Can I just like write it to it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, they're like, can I connect it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's right on the end of the week.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it doesn't have anything really to do with Siva.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Other Siva, Sio Silva, other than like, you know that they're rivals, okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's funny because the guy who is the MC is like sprinkled throughout the chestnut spring series, and I had read it so long that I kind of forgot, okay, until like, she's bringing it back up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's the Osoba sister and his biggest rival, reality TV.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the Mary the Farmer guy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, right, Farmer wants a wife or whatever that you see on the top.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's Bachelor style.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's dating all these girls.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Love a good Bachelor style book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But she is the, like, one of those, so she's not even, she's not even involved.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She's like the one putting on the show, like helping us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of learned that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm reading Ambrosia, which is the second book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I Frost and Ambrosia, the Frost and Nectar series, which really throws me off, because I was, I don't understand it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I literally went and took a look at the second book immediately after I finished the first not typed in nectar, and I was like, this is not popping up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did the same thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is not popping up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why are you going to name of the Frost and Nectar series if you're going to name the second book in
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only part of my family.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I looked up what I am Benjamin because that's stressing me out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was like, why is that?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But if you want like a few loved crescent city and you're looking for another book that fits like the mixing the fantasy with real life world vibes, then you need to read that one because what is it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Immortality.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That tracks kind of as a right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, still doesn't make any sense.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: You could have just named it nectar or frost and ambrosia for the series, but it's a really good book.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I finished the in their both like 300 pages.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I finished the first one in two days and I'm almost I'm like halfway down with the second.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then you will actually be done with dualities.
• 5:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'll be completed series.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can know episode on those and it's been a minute.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can see and she'll hop on the pad.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because I'm also obsessed with Apple on tower.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to write that to you.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I put it in your drawer because I love me some seeing Crawford.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Highly recommend the frost and approaches.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good blend of
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the modern.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I would even go as far to say as that's a very like intro to fantasy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like a bunch of people.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so easy to read.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So easy to read.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it makes his like real life with fantasy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just think you're like in my head, I was like, okay, I can actually visualize this a little bit better.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was so laughing when she,
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: showed up with Indian food.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, she's funny.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, if you want to listen to it, she sounds just like a like a L.A. New York girl where she's just like, I don't care.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's just your typical she's my spirit anymore right now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I love her funny.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you're a hop-in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to the night we met.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I met every time we talk about this book, the song from TikTok always pops in my head.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, then we, okay, and I feel like it actually fits with this book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It does, so I feel validated.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It does.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, if I'm just singing this to be stupid, but no, it actually tracks.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel better about myself.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What did you rate?
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I mean,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of it got old.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just like the drawn outness of the end of their feelings and what to do and what not to do, I was just like this can end now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the only thing that I was like, I'm not obsessed with this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I still gave it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I started to do six stars.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I loved it so much.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've only read one of them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I've read two other.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One of them is a short story, but it's definitely so good.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just the writing of it and the emotion in it too, like all the issues.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Can we talk about the terror warnings first?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I get that because I didn't even, I list, I didn't listen, or recap it was things beginning of the audio book.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't read that down warnings.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And some of them are valid, like, well, if it's alcohol, that is, like, forced physical contact, like, that is very valid.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: dog gilling a snake.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, why is that a tear wounding?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I literally was like, why are the summer one that we're listed?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I said, this can't be real.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you know from alcoholism?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the cirrhosis of the liver to dog gilling like wildlife.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a little frustrating.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it mentioned it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, I don't know if that was like supposed to be a joke.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was like, okay, but we went from serious sugar warnings to if you are triggered by dogs killing a snake, I was like, but absolutely no, please kill snakes, dogs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like I just thought that was so bizarre.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is a weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did not read the trigger warnings.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have not organized system at all.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I cannot find the book right now, but
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I will read the trigger warnings later.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was very, very excited.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This book was actually good because of, like, we said, the last book was not it for me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was not it for me, and I was really sad because I'm an avionist and, and I've loved literally almost every book except for the last one.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, please redeem yourself.
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she did.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she said that she was writing this one for, like,
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said that she's been riding all over the song like her other ones and I was like, out, yeah, no, she knocked it out of the park.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is how you do a love triangle, honestly, like, I am not a fan of a love triangle, but this is how you do a love triangle.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I know this was a perfect segue into what I was going to want to chat about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to look at one service.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I honestly had not really thought about that, but it was a lot of people are saying that she emotionally cheated.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it also talks about like,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: this one girl literally left a one-star view because she was like emotional cheating, um, sexy, choosing a girl over your childhood best friend, um, sexy, being stupid at the big old age of 30, um, sexy, ignoring the fact that your best friend is an alcoholic even though your only personality trait is your mother died from excessive alcohol use, sexy, and obviously that's all sarcasm, but like, do you think she emotionally cheated?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, no, I don't think she emotionally cheated because was she aware of her feelings the whole time?
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: because she talked about like she was a different car.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she was.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think in the beginning, you know, I don't think she was in the beginning.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like as I think she kept hanging out with Chris, I think she became more aware that she went into the wrong car.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, especially after her mom pointed it out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but also I think she probably was like in denial like, no, I have a good thing going like finally my life is getting stable.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to ruin that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like so I think they were both actively denying it, even though they both had feelings for each other obviously.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you say that she was kind of an idiot when I came to the red flanks?
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm, yes and no, because I get what she's coming from when you have like zero ability and you have no other choices.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: She she did what she had to do in state with Mike, because that was the same option.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now did she miss red flags?
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, she did.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She did miss red flags, but also he was very good at hiding them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So also we as readers saw the red flags true.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We did we saw the red flag from her perspective.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She on the other hand did not see all of the red flags like we as readers when we were reading the book were like,
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: did not tell her and I feel like that is the only bad thing that I said about this that Chris should have told her.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Chris should have immediately told her, but and where he said where that that review said you were choosing your best friend over
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're a girl over a best friend.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, he preferred for him and covered and bought gifts to make her think that she that he was fantastic.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So now I don't think that he chose and then I feel like at the end too, when it looks like he was choosing her over Mike.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I feel like he was forced into a position and like, if it's toxic, you got to cut it out.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because at that point it was toxic because he had been trying to get my to get help.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel that, yes, 100% and like you cannot help someone, again, who doesn't want to be held.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: He might not want to be held.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have to let that person hit rock bottom and then they can make that choice for themselves, but did Chris enable him?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he did.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He did enable him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Chris does not make choices for Mike, Mike makes choices for Mike.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: because it really bothered me when the friends were getting mad at Chris.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, how are you so blind to what was happening?
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: What Mike did that last night in the cabin?
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was that moment that Chris was like, no, I can't choose Mike anymore.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because up until that point he had been choosing Mike.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and honestly, Larissa gave Mike an opportunity to fix it, like she saw a problem.
• 13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like anyone of us in a relationship would have done this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a problem.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We see a red flag.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We address said red flag.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They say they're going to fix said red flag.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You think they do fix red flag.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: then you find out they don't fix it like and then she immediately exited that situation right the minute she found out he so so she found out he did not fix the problem she left I think she did what was right when she because she assumed he had fixed the problem
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then when she found him in his own urine, correct, face down, like she immediately was like, I'm not gonna, and I really liked the line when he was like, I wanna change for someone and she was like, we'll change for yourself, like, yeah, change for someone else, like it's not gonna be me, no.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Even though she had nowhere to go, right now.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: or what was that going to happen there?
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like how, like don't bring the girl to the cabin.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that was not fair to her.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was not fair.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's he admitted?
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did admit he was wrong with that.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said I should not have done that.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But also he didn't want to cross the line with Larissa.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was so he was trying to get over her and would understand the bright again.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, wow, what a messy situation, so messy.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I, I loved it to be honest.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I loved the messy.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think both of them did the best with the situation that that was handled because her mom pissed me off.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hated her mom her mom hated her mom and I at the end when she was talking about Phil dumping her and all this stuff I was like thank you for finally realizing not to walk back through that door again.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh for sure.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Chris was like beating himself up when he realized that if he could have just been a little like nicer that day.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Things would have ended up differently, but you know, things like make you think about like, yeah, like the smallest like thing like the choices I don't know, like I think it's what Abby was trying to like right say with this whole book like I thought about how.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: My husband only ended up at the college that he like we met at because he took the wrong exit and they drove by the college.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were trying to find Clemson.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: They went to the wrong exit and drove by you and they were like, oh, this is a nice campus.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I should tour here and I'm like, that's crazy.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, me and Brandon only met because he came to vacation and rental be to my popped up on a people near you.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and he messaged me.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like that just makes me think about like right all the like small like things that happen in that wild such a wild thing.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I personally love Christa like the yearning Chris man.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I wrote down all the reasons I love Chris give me one second.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: and love love love.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I literally won.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She needed a redemption for Abby him in it.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I love that you tell me anything bad about Chris.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I literally do not care.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to do a different name.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do God wish he had a different name.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's such a basic thing.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: What am I?
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who risked this?
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chris?
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: My mother was like the name.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said Marissa.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was a lot of Risa.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is a pretty name, but like La Risa was Mike and La Risa with Chris.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can give me a little something.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he without her knowledge, without her knowing.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he did it and let Mike get the credit for most of it.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That man, the man that he is shoveling snow off her car.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Buying an epipen to keep on hearing all the questions fresh.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: calling ahead to the restaurants to make sure she could eat at them.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Getting her car fix, even though it was the room, right?
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Buying the present, her boyfriend brought her the bread tasting.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like knowing exactly what to do to ease her mind.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a 10 out of 10.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a 10 out of 10 and then I think I think that Chris was okay to put up with Most of the things that Mike did as long as he said like as he said like as long as I get to be a little piece of her life Right, I'm fine with it.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and I think he was fine to live that way As long as he got to Stacey Larissa, but the minute
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mike harmed her, right.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: All bets were off.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I, yes, I do commend him for that being like the line.
• 18:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, well, I'm done.
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I gave you all the chances that I could give you to fix this.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was because he broke up with her.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or she broke up with him because of the drunkenness, and then he literally left and went that drunk.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That and that literally gave her an awful access.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That part pissed me off to no end.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: When he forced himself on her, I was like, dude, what are you doing?
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: What the actual heck are you doing?
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We do not play that game.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then it was in front of everybody.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, dude, that.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: The part that I could not get over was the friends being mad at Chris and was like y'all saw what Mike did Why are you mad at Chris facts?
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: We should be mad at and then Mike's mom She is all my top 10 villains list like the whole conversation of when she went in and it was like I changed them in you.
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah Oh, that about maybe like
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rage on the road.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, there's no way this woman just did this.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, I'm going to protect my son.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well maybe we get maybe get him some help because he's not well.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I will say at the end Mike slightly ever so slightly reading himself whenever he cut off his mom and sister for her.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: They treated Larissa correct.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then when he apologized Chris.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that made me cry.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was literally in tears and he's like she told me to change something for someone and that someone's going to be you.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, Mike, I get it.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that so much.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I love that so much.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you told me that you cried at the end, and I was getting closer to the end, I was like, I wish you don't cry about all.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the interaction with Mike and Chris, and I just, that ripped him apart, I think that's so precious.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And okay, so that leads me into, do you think that if she writes another book in the series, which it seems like there's no shortage of people
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it will be, what if Mike has to be, I think it will be.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: What if Mike gets what the rest is best for him?
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was thinking.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: No way.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was just about to say what if he gets with her friend.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember her friend.
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that would be interesting.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like it would have to be... Why did you meet Chris on the first book?
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember who I met in the first book, but I don't remember.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I think it talked about their friend group, and I think she came and met their whole friend group, so I think it had them both in it.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I feel like we would already have been introduced to whoever the people would be.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because yeah, that's a very common thing to do.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Where you surprised as I was with there being no spice in this book?
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was genuinely shocked.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
• 21:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, only because maybe it might have been further along the not when I thought that something was going to happen between Larissa and Chris.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then when nothing happened, but the scene had passed where they kissed, I said,
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't think she's ever like in I know it well.
• 21:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think she's ever written a closed or book before I don't I wonder if that's what she meant by like something different than what she's done before But honestly, I think it was so well written and I told people that I was like I didn't
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Notice it until like I got to the scene in it past and I said That's very different for Abby him and us.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh for sure, and I love Like Abby is always gonna bring in something for comedic relief and that was the dog the freaking dog Oh my god, that dog was so funny.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like this dog is Feral I mean all the shots in the world like he needs to be Great about everything
• 22:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's so many rabies and I was cracking up at that dog and then like the blood water That was funny.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would have vomited that that's like a hundred a hundred person That's what I was imagining was the Disney water.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if you ever got a Disney Their water tastes like straight rusty pipe like metal at all.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to drink the refill I'll I will I will buy a fat dollar water bottle
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: 100 every time every time we're where to and bound on my back.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, care.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little,
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: a set of pauses in highlight.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tyler, I'm pretty decent, it's a correct.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's how you learn and truth about yourself when you're with or down to nothing.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's easy to see what's left and that's again.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you have to let them get down to nothing.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would spend my existence silently cherishing a woman I'd never have.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: someone I'd never kiss or even hold hands with this was my curse the future I was condemned to to never truly be happy or to be happy for him because he did not blanking deserve her which facts he did not deserve her I feel like he maybe could have eventually been the man to deserve her but he may want to change her no he did but you could obviously tell that little recent Chris Mormon to be like
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even he said, I noticed that.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're trained.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love is self-sustaining.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't get weak and die when you don't feed it.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even when I put it away, locked it up, shut it in the deepest recesses of my heart.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still love trying the dark.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could love her from a distance.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could love her in silence.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could love her without even wanting to.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I swear Abby writes like the best man.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: She does.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then this is the quote that broke me.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the last one, but this is the quote that broke me.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was going to have to watch you live alive with someone else and that one day I was going to have to move on and do the same thing, but there would have been a morning, 60 years from now and someone would search for a grapestone of a woman they didn't know to sprinkle their grandfather's ashes over in honor of a
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was rough listening to you.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my god, that one cut me deep.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: That one was like, spring that one knows.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: No one knows.
• 25:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's so sad.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's what it's gonna be like true.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I so sad.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I cried in this book, a pretty decent amount.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I think I was on my period when I read this book, I'll say.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like double whammy right here.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Larissa was probably like one of the best FMCs that I've read in a romance book.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was so good.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like her just consistent determination to not fail.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: like picking up where her mom's locked like she was working 87,000 jobs and her mom was just piggybacking on her and taking advantage of like what she was willing to like work for and the yearning that Chris had like the amount of a year and and we love a book that you know literally signed $2,000 over to you here.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are going to switch it up for next month for bugs.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is an executive decision.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a dark fantasy romance.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 26:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's called Crown Me Dead by Liv Zander.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we have heard Jordan from what Jordan reads,
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: talk about this book non-stop.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we are listening to her because she has Nostir does wrong yet and we are going to read this one.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is a duality, a short duality.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The first book is only 270 pages, so definitely hop on and chat with us about that on our Fable.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have been slacking on the air, but we will do better I promise especially if it's a short book.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it is a grave digger's daughter accepts a cruel bargain to seduce a rotting king and die, so her brother can live, but she plans to bury those who think she's upon.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I Jordan was like, it was love, loss, and grief.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what it truly means to live despite the circumstances.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she was said it was the most painful, or the heartfelt, beautiful love story.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's ever read, though, terrifying, actually.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That is enough to tell me, and the fact that is only 270 pages.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were icing on the case.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so glad that I did for it.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am too, actually.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard of it.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't either until she started posting about it.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've never seen it until she was posting that like it was, it made her sob and I'm like, that's all I need to know.
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: If it gives you that kind of reaction, then I'm here for it.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I may binge both of them honestly before then.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I probably wouldn't, too.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because I just bingeed for Austin, Ambrosia, so.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love that for you.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was honestly one of my fellowologies.
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I really have and I had just put on my list to put in your TBR dorm.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I started it.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, speaking of TBR.
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a confession.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, okay, did you start it?
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I started it.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm 10% in.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I had a serpent in the wings at night.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I ended up listening to
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: assistance to the villain.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that one was much longer.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And because I just haven't had the mental capacity to read on my candle, I got very far behind.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to finish it.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm liking it.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do like that as vampires because I literally just said in the last podcast that I have
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I absolutely adored five stars the first one.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The second book I gave two stars.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.
• 28:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So many people have said that to ashes in the Starcars King, one big thumbs down.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just kind of sucked.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just really did not give what I wanted it to get.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, it could have been an email and you can chat GBD it.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or I can just tell you how it ends.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 29:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing that.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: The sucks.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of sucks, the silversmith.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: was the biggest let out.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't read it and I put it in her jar.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's fine because you wanted to read it too.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to read it.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to like it.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's got so much color right now.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just literally every basic fantasy.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing and I put that I didn't like it upon take talk and I got some haters and I was like listening reading is subjective so really is I don't know why people can't have been out of shape about people to opinions.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I I've
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to guess the ending or like what's gonna happen at 20% in.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to be surprised.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want there to be a shock factor.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody was like, yeah, you guess the point was to guess what was gonna happen at 20% in.
• 30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, that's not how I like my fantasy books.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry.
• 30:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a correct assumption about reading.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, they said I missed the point.
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't miss the point.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't like the point.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, basically it was just like this, this, I'm getting, there may be some spoilers.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try not this way then.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to get very big overview, but this girl was in a cabin.
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: She thought that she was like adopted her parents abandoned her.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody abandoned her.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: She was living by herself in a very poor, and then all of a sudden, this man and girl show up to say
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tells about it.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every freaking fan like fantasy book ever, there was nothing special about it.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nothing.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not even the magic system?
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's basic.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was so basic.
• 31:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand what everybody was like in.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was one thing that was like interesting.
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you off this.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: But like, that was it.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, don't like not read it, just don't expect anything by changing, like everybody on TikTok was making you think it's just a basic fantasy.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's relevant.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know?
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just fine.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, and I was, I had, I think I had it too hyped up in my head is what the problem was probably.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was expecting something like raving and I was about it.
• 31:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that was the first time that took talk to me dirty, so.
• 31:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw this one about the Abbey him and as book this, the day that Abbey him and as his books found take talk was the day they died.
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that's like, well, that's like brilliant.
• 32:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's brutal.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is brutal.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to be at our next time.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I only added like a few.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're all fantasy for one guy.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're all romance.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, of course.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're making each other branch out as we are.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I've definitely run more romance and I have fantasy though.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: A queen is very single.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh wait, put that back.
• 32:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Get the third one on on.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is it.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So put that back and trade it for this one.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how the third book.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: The third book.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: A crown this cold and heavy can't wait.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm begging her to finish the kingdom of lie series by Stacey Astard, so I genuinely think I read the first and second book a year and a half.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I listened to those one through four.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shored through.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I loved the first and second one.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I loved it so much.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like it just like, it's such a good ending to the story.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, I just stopped reading it and then I just haven't got back.
• 33:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.
• 33:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have a swing with it.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fear dream.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's all unaudible.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do it.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do it.
• 33:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do it.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you need me to log back into my audible?
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, apparently I didn't actually cancel my audible account.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I got an email that was like, oh, you got a credit.
• 33:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what the heck?
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean to do that.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so before I canceled it and lost a credit, I got
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: a tongue so sweet and deadly because I've been dying to read that book.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, after I listen to that, that's good.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Except my problem is I want to start crescent city next.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I need to, I really have to start crescent city if I want to be done.
• 33:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You need to start crescent city next.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to love it so much.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, especially if you love frost so much.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really I'm not like dreading it, but I'm just like I just not gonna get three books done.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the summer.
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, so next week.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: We have a fun episode.
• 34:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, next week, we're going to be interviewing.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, did it all.
• 34:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Courtney Walls.
• 34:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Courtney Walls.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are so excited about this.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we were trying to get her on, but probably a year.
• 34:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
• 34:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it was probably a year.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably a year.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love Courtney Walls.
• 34:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love everything she stands for.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, love her by everything she writes.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: She just seems like a fantastic human being.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I love her books.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I've read her hockey little trilogy like twice.
• 34:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've definitely read the Myphone Valentine twice.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the third one.
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that one was good.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That one was so good.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's coming out with a new book which is why she's doing a bunch of podcasts right now which brings the Lord because she decided to come on ours.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: But, appreciate it.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chillin' in next week, so we've been a chat with Courtney Walsh about all things, all things romance, all things romance.
• 35:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have not even been able to talk about, she doesn't really funny to us on romance, so she does.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're good, they're like, light.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you just look up what her new book's about.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then we do, because I don't know.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been, like, keeping up with book news.