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3 Massachusetts True Crime Cases That Became Must-Watch Streaming Shows · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine a weapon that weighs absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like it leaves zero physical residue. It has no chemical signature.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can't dust it for prints.
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  Speaker 2: None of the usual evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And you could deploy it from like 50 miles
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  Speaker 1: away with just the flick of a thumb.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild to think about. It is.
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  Speaker 1: But in 2014, a teenager in Massachusetts used exactly that
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  Speaker 1: kind of weapon to end a human life. And that
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  Speaker 1: weapon was a text message.
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  Speaker 2: Which, I mean, it fundamentally breaks our traditional understanding of violence.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: Because, you know, we are wired to recognize danger as
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  Speaker 2: a physical presence, right? A raised fist, a weapon, a
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  Speaker 2: sudden movement.
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  Speaker 1: Something tangible.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, something tangible. But when the lethal force is delivered invisible,
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  Speaker 2: like through digital code, just bouncing off a cell tower...
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  Speaker 2: It forces us to completely reevaluate what it means to
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  Speaker 2: actually commit a crime.
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  Speaker 1: And that reevaluation is like it's happening in real time, right,
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  Speaker 1: in our living rooms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: Because we are living in this very strange cultural moment
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  Speaker 1: right now where the absolute darkest, most shattered pieces of
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  Speaker 1: real human lives are being scooped up, polished, and repackaged
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  Speaker 1: for our binge-watching pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we sit down, we hit play on whatever
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  Speaker 1: streaming service. And we consume other people's actual nightmares as
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  Speaker 1: like evening entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: Which creates a really fascinating and honestly, sometimes deeply unsettling
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  Speaker 2: media ecosystem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Because you are watching something that's highly produced. It's glossy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, starring A-list actors. But the underlying architecture of
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  Speaker 2: it is built on real blood, real grief and real
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  Speaker 2: communities that are. they're still trying to put themselves back together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the real-world collateral damage.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The line between journalistic documentation and dramatic exploitation is
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  Speaker 2: getting thinner every single year.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the core of what we are
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  Speaker 1: unpacking today for you. We're doing a deep dive into
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  Speaker 1: a really fascinating piece of journalism from MassLive.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from September 2026.
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  Speaker 1: Right, this retrospective piece that looks at three notorious Massachusetts
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  Speaker 1: criminal cases.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't just recount the crimes themselves, which is what
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  Speaker 1: makes it so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: No, it goes much deeper than that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It examines how these specific localized tragedies were transmuted
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  Speaker 1: into massive global streaming phenomenons. We're talking the big ones, Hulu,
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  Speaker 1: Netflix and investigation discovery.
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  Speaker 2: Because Massachusetts has inadvertently become this sort of dark muse
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  Speaker 2: for the true crime industrial complex, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really has.
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  Speaker 2: And when you look at the geography of these three
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  Speaker 2: specific cases, you start to see a very clear picture
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  Speaker 2: of how television networks filter reality. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Lay it out for us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you have a tragic virtual romance that ends in
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  Speaker 2: a digital manslaughter conviction. Right. Then you have the spectacular,
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  Speaker 2: violent unraveling of a beloved NFL superstar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have a literal house of horrors hiding
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  Speaker 2: in plain sight in a working-class neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: So for you listening, we are not just going to
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  Speaker 1: recount scary stories today. That's not what this deep dive
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  Speaker 1: is about. Our mission... is to explore that massive chasm
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  Speaker 1: between the glossy television dramatizations you see on your screen
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  Speaker 1: and the raw, unedited, and deeply disturbing realities of what
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  Speaker 1: actually happened in the source material.
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  Speaker 2: Because the media doesn't just reflect these crimes back to us,
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  Speaker 2: you know. It shapes them.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it shapes how millions of people understand responsibility, mental illness,
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  Speaker 1: and justice itself.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So let's start with the weapon that weighs nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. We're diving into the Michelle Carter
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  Speaker 1: case first. Hulu adapted this into the series called The
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  Speaker 1: Girl from Plainville.
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  Speaker 2: Starring Elle Fanning, right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And for anyone who only knows the broad strokes
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  Speaker 1: of this, or maybe you just remember the promotional posters
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  Speaker 1: of Elle Fanning looking simultaneously angelic and just completely vacant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We need to ground this in the stark facts.
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  Speaker 2: We really do. The facts are heavy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So Michelle Carter was a Massachusetts teenager who was convicted
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  Speaker 1: of involuntary manslaughter. And this was for encouraging her boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: Conrad Roy III... to take his own life via a
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  Speaker 1: relentless barrage of text messages.
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  Speaker 2: And we should point out, this wasn't some legal fluke
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  Speaker 2: at a lower court level that got tossed out.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. The state's highest court ultimately had
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  Speaker 1: held this conviction in 2019.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a monumental precedent in American jurisprudence.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, massive.
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  Speaker 2: Because to understand why it's so monumental, we have to
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  Speaker 2: look at how the law traditionally views homicide.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the traditional definition. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Involuntary manslaughter generally requires wanton or reckless conduct that creates
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  Speaker 2: a high degree of likelihood that substantial harm will result
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  Speaker 2: to another person.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning an action. Like a physical action.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Historically, that meant an action. You drove your car
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  Speaker 2: recklessly into a crowd. Or you left a loaded firearm
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  Speaker 2: where a child could reach it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It required a physical causal link.
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  Speaker 1: You had to physically set that deadly sequence of events
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  Speaker 1: into motion.
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  Speaker 2: But here, the prosecution successfully argued this theory... And they
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  Speaker 2: called it overwhelming the will.
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  Speaker 1: Overwhelming the will.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They argued that Carter's digital coercion was so intense,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so unrelenting, that it essentially overrode Conrad Roy's
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  Speaker 2: own agency.
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  Speaker 1: So she became the cause.
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  Speaker 2: Right. She didn't put the physical mechanism of death in
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  Speaker 2: his hands, but she verbally constructed the inescapable mental box
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  Speaker 2: that forced him to use it.
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  Speaker 1: And when you strip away the Hollywood dramatization of it all,
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  Speaker 1: the actual text messages from the source material are just suffocating.
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  Speaker 2: They really are. They're hard to read.
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  Speaker 1: Because the Hulu show, you know, it paints this picture
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  Speaker 1: of a complicated star-crossed virtual romance, which, I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: gives it a sort of tragic cinematic sheen, right?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, because it's television. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But the real texts, which were heavily scrutinized during the trial,
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  Speaker 1: they don't read like romance at all. They read like
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  Speaker 1: a psychological battering ram.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, Carter tells Roy... And I'm quoting the
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  Speaker 1: exact phrasing here from the article because it's just chilling.
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  Speaker 1: She says, if you don't do it now, you're never
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  Speaker 1: going to do it. And you can say you'll do
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  Speaker 1: it tomorrow, but you probably won't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it reads like a twisted motivational speech, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: It really does.
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  Speaker 2: It's like project management for a tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the language of a coach pushing an athlete,
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  Speaker 1: but applied to suicide. So disturbing. Now, during the trial,
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  Speaker 1: Ascension District Attorney Mary Claire Flynn presented a very specific...
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  Speaker 1: a very digestible narrative to explain this to the jury.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They needed a motive.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Flynn argued that Carter manipulated this entire situation for
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  Speaker 1: social currency.
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  Speaker 2: The grieving girlfriend theory. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The theory was that Carter wanted to play the role
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  Speaker 1: of the grieving girlfriend. She wanted to be this tragic
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  Speaker 1: figure who just couldn't save her boyfriend purely to harvest
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  Speaker 1: sympathy and attention from other girls at her high school.
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  Speaker 2: Which is the narrative of a calculated sociopath. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's the high school mean girl trope, but weaponized to
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  Speaker 2: a lethal degree. And from a prosecutorial standpoint, it is
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  Speaker 2: incredibly effective.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's easy to understand.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It gives the jury a clear, comprehensible motive. You know,
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  Speaker 2: human beings are terrified of senseless violence. So if the
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  Speaker 2: prosecution can step up and say, hey, she did this
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  Speaker 2: for popularity, it suddenly makes a dark kind of sense
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  Speaker 2: to us.
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  Speaker 1: I am struggling with something here, though, and I want
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  Speaker 1: your take on it.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: That grieving girlfriend mastermind theory, it just feels entirely too
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  Speaker 1: neat to me.
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  Speaker 2: Too clean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It feels like we're trying to map the plot
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  Speaker 1: of a teen movie onto what was actually a fatal
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  Speaker 1: psychiatric crisis.
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  Speaker 2: That's a very fair point.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you look at the defense's case in the source,
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  Speaker 1: the reality of who Michelle Carter was at that time
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  Speaker 1: is incredibly murky and profoundly disturbing.
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  Speaker 2: It is. The medical history is completely overlooked by a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. Right. Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Bregan, he was a psychiatrist who testified for the defense.
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  Speaker 1: And he revealed a medical history that the Hulu series, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: only skims over. We are talking about a girl who
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  Speaker 1: developed severe anorexia at the age of 11.
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  Speaker 2: 11 years old.
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  Speaker 1: And that she was prescribed the powerful antidepressant Prozac at
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  Speaker 1: age 14. And Dr. Bregan testified that she was engaging
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  Speaker 1: in severe chronic cutting as a mechanism to control her
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  Speaker 1: internal pain.
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  Speaker 2: You are bringing up the exact process. friction point where
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  Speaker 2: the legal system fundamentally fails to capture psychological reality.
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  Speaker 1: Right. How do you prosecute that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, look at the timeline. Anorexia at 11 years old
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  Speaker 2: indicates a profound, desperate need for control over one's own existence, right?
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  Speaker 2: And this is before puberty has even fully taken hold.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Then, introducing an SSRI-like Prozac to a 14-year-old brain, we
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  Speaker 2: have to remember that the adolescent brain is essentially under
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  Speaker 2: massive construction. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not finished baking yet.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. The frontal cortex, which is the part
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  Speaker 2: that handles impulse control and rational consequence mapping, it is
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  Speaker 2: not fully wired.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a fundamentally unstable neurochemistry.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Compounded by a psychiatric drug known to have complex effects
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  Speaker 1: on adolescents and then compounded again by a history of
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  Speaker 1: physical self-harm.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It is a portrait of an adolescent in excruciating
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  Speaker 2: psychological agony long before Conrad Roy's tragic death. Right. But
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  Speaker 2: the legal system, it demands a binary, you know. Is
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  Speaker 2: she an evil mastermind or is she innocent?
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  Speaker 1: Guilty or not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But psychiatry operates on a spectrum. When Dr. Bregan
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  Speaker 2: testified about her mental state, he was suggesting that her
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  Speaker 2: connection to reality, to the actual prominence of death, was
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  Speaker 2: entirely warped. So to reduce her actions purely to a
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  Speaker 2: calculated plot for schoolyard popularity, it really ignores the massive
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  Speaker 2: psychiatric storm she was weathering.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess it's easier for society to label her
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  Speaker 1: a monster. than to admit we have a systemic failure
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  Speaker 1: in how we handle youth mental health, right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Because if she's just a sociopath, well, we lock her
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  Speaker 1: up for her 15-month sentence in the Bristol County House
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  Speaker 1: of Correction, and boom, the problem is solved. The boogeyman
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  Speaker 1: is behind bars.
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  Speaker 2: Neatly packaged. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But if she is a severely broken child who was
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  Speaker 1: failed by a pharmacological and psychiatric system, well, then the
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  Speaker 1: problem is everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is the most terrifying element of this case,
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  Speaker 2: and it goes back to your point about the weapon
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  Speaker 2: weighing nothing.
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  Speaker 1: The texting.
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  Speaker 2: Right. We have to examine how technology acts as an
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  Speaker 2: empathy shield.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that term, empathy shield.
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  Speaker 2: Because throughout human history, if you wanted to push someone
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  Speaker 2: toward physical harm, you had to be physically present.
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  Speaker 1: You had to look them in the eye.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. You have a biological mechanism called the mirror neuron system.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at someone who is crying or suffocating
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  Speaker 2: or in deep distress, your brain's mirror neurons literally fire.
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  Speaker 1: You feel it.
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  Speaker 2: You physically feel a shadow of their pain. It is
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  Speaker 2: an evolutionary safeguard. It makes it incredibly difficult for the
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  Speaker 2: average human being to inflate ultimate harm up close. You
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  Speaker 2: see their fear and your empathy kicks in.
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  Speaker 1: But the smartphone, I mean, it completely bypasses the mirror neurons,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: It completely neuters our biological safeguards. When Carter is typing
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  Speaker 2: those words, she isn't looking at a dying boy.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: She is looking at a piece of illuminated glass in
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  Speaker 2: her hand. The text message flattens everything. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It removes the tone of voice.
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  Speaker 2: The hesitation, the micro expressions of terror. The medium itself
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  Speaker 2: facilitates cruelty because it feels like a video game.
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  Speaker 1: It's like instead of a physical weapon, her texts acted
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  Speaker 1: like a digital sleep deprivation tactic.
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  Speaker 2: It's that relentless pinging.
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  Speaker 1: It was just inescapable. It gradually wore down Conrad Roy's
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  Speaker 1: psychological immune system until he just had nothing left. They
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  Speaker 1: were trapped in this hermetically sealed virtual relationship. totally isolated
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  Speaker 1: from the physical world.
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  Speaker 2: And in that isolation, the texts became their entire reality.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the streaming adaptation, despite its attempts
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  Speaker 1: at nuance, inherently falls short.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hulu show.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because a television show requires a narrative arc. It
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  Speaker 1: requires pacing and character motivations that actually make sense to
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  Speaker 1: an audience. Hulu gives you Elle Fanning singing along to Glee,
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  Speaker 1: trying to humanize her, trying to find the why.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But profound mental illness doesn't have a clean narrative arc.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: It is chaotic, it's contradictory, and it's often entirely senseless.
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  Speaker 1: When you read that quote from her text again, the
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  Speaker 1: one that goes, you can say you'll do it tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: but you probably won't, it doesn't actually sound like an
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  Speaker 1: evil genius pulling strings.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like a deeply unwell, impatient teenager treating a
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  Speaker 1: human life with absolute casual detachment.
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  Speaker 2: Because she couldn't comprehend the permanence of death until he
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  Speaker 2: was actually gone. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the legacy of this case is that it proves
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  Speaker 1: our technology has evolved a thousand times faster than our
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  Speaker 1: moral and psychological safeguards.
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  Speaker 2: Well said. Michelle Carter's crime was entirely virtual, you know,
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  Speaker 2: taking place in the invisible airspace between two cell phones.
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  Speaker 2: It was intimate. It was quiet and it was digital.
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  Speaker 2: But the true crime lens doesn't just focus on the invisible.
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  Speaker 2: It also hyper focuses on the hyper visible.
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  Speaker 1: That is a perfect pivot, actually, because we are moving
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  Speaker 1: from a crime hidden behind a screen. to a crime
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  Speaker 1: committed by someone who performed physically, violently, and brilliantly in
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  Speaker 1: front of millions of people every single Sunday, we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Hernandez. The former New England Patriots tight
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  Speaker 1: end and the Netflix three-part documentary, Killer Inside. The mind
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  Speaker 1: of Aaron Hernandez.
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  Speaker 2: The shift here, from a suburban teenager's bedroom to the
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  Speaker 2: glaring lights of an NFL stadium, it's jarring. But the
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  Speaker 2: underlying theme of a completely fractured reality... It remains incredibly consistent.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. Let's lay out the heavy, undeniable facts
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  Speaker 1: before we dissect the psychology, just so everyone listening is
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  Speaker 1: on the same page.
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  Speaker 2: Good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez went from catching touchdown passes from Tom Brady
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  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl to being found guilty of first-degree murder.
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  Speaker 1: On April 15, 2015, he was convicted of killing Odin
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility
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  Speaker 1: of parole.
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  Speaker 2: A massive fall.
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  Speaker 1: Incredible fall. He was later acquitted in a separate, highly
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  Speaker 1: publicized double murder case involving Daniel D'Abreu and Sofiro Furtado.
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  Speaker 1: And then the entire chaotic saga ended when Hernandez died
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  Speaker 1: by suicide in his prison cell in April 2017.
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  Speaker 2: It is arguably one of the most spectacular and violent
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  Speaker 2: falls from grace in the history of American sports.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely. Now, what makes the Netflix documentary so compelling is
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  Speaker 1: a very specific, haunting, stylistic choice.
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  Speaker 2: The audio. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Most true crime documentaries rely on a narrator, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: a voice of God telling you how to feel, guiding
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  Speaker 1: you through the timeline, explaining psychology. But Killer Inside drops
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  Speaker 1: the narrator entirely.
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  Speaker 2: Which is such a risk, but it works.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. It relies entirely on the raw audio
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  Speaker 1: of Hernandez's phone calls from prison.
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  Speaker 2: It's a brilliant filmmaking decision. Because it forces the viewer
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  Speaker 2: into an active role rather than a passive one. You
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  Speaker 2: aren't being told what to think. You are forced to
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  Speaker 2: experience his psychological whiplash in real time.
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  Speaker 1: And the duality in these calls, I mean, it is
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  Speaker 1: deeply unsettling.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, completely.
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  Speaker 1: You hear him on the line with his young daughter
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  Speaker 1: and his voice is light. He is speaking joyfully and
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  Speaker 1: sweetly about Santa Claus. It's this really tender, protective, fatherly moment.
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  Speaker 2: And then the documentary cuts to a call with his
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  Speaker 2: mother and the tone just violently pivots. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The pitch of his voice drops. He is profanely and
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  Speaker 1: aggressively blaming her for making him the way he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's just lashing out with pure venom.
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  Speaker 2: It's like listening to two entirely different human beings inhabiting
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  Speaker 2: the exact same vocal cords.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. It reminds me of investigators finding the
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  Speaker 1: black box after a catastrophic plane crash, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Like, You are listening to these tapes and they give
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  Speaker 1: you the raw, unfiltered data of a mind in absolute freefall.
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  Speaker 1: But the pilot's final words are completely contradictory, depending on
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  Speaker 1: who is on the other end of the line.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It makes you realize that no one, not his family,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: not his Patriots teammates, not his coach, actually knew who
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: the hell he was. They only ever got the version
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: of Aaron Hernandez that he specifically tailored for them in
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: that exact moment.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: And when we unpack the underlying themes explored in this documentary...
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We're thrust into one of the most intense biological versus
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: sociological debates in modern criminology.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Nature versus nurture on steroids.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Was he destined to be a killer because of
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: his biology or was he built into a killer by
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: his environment?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Well, let's break down that biological element first because it
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely dominated the headlines. I'm talking about CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Right. So CTE is a progressive degenerative brain disease. It's
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Which obviously includes NFL players.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Right, guys who are taking subconcussive hits on basically every
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: single play.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: So after Hernandez's death, neuropathologists at Boston University examined his brain.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And what they found completely shocked them.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: The level of damage.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had one of the most severe cases of
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: CTE ever seen in someone his age. He was only 27,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: but his brain resembled that of a player in their 60s.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's translate the medical jargon for a second for
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the listener.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: How does CTE physically turn someone into a murderer? Like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: what is actually happening inside the skull?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the repeated trauma causes a protein called tau
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: to misfold and clump together.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, proteins.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Right. Imagine these tau proteins, like rust, building up on
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the brake lines of a car. As the rust spreads,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it slowly chokes off and kills the neurons. In Hernandez's case,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the most severe damage, the heavy rust... was located in
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: his frontal lobe.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Which we mentioned earlier with Michelle Carr.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The frontal lobe is the part of your brain
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: responsible for executive function. So impulse control, judgment, and emotional regulation.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: It is essentially the braking system of the brain.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And without the brakes, the rest of the brain just
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: runs wild.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Specifically the amygdala, which is the brain's fear and aggression center.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It's the gas pedal.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, gas pedal, right.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: So from a purely biological standpoint... Hernandez had a hyperactive
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: gas pedal and a completely rotted out braking system. When
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: he felt a flash of anger, he literally lacked the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: neural pathways to stop himself from acting on it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, that is terrifying. The biological hardware was literally physically
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: failing him. Yes. But I'm looking at how society reacted
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to that CTE revelation, and I just have to ask,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: isn't that just incredibly convenient? Oh, so. Well, when the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: CTE findings came out, everyone latched onto it. The media,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the fans, everyone just said, Ah, the football helmet broke
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: his brain, that's why he killed Odin Lloyd.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Ah, I see what you mean. Right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Isn't it easier for us to blame a piece of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: sporting equipment than to admit our culture might have broken
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: his spirit long before he got to the NFL?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: That is a phenomenal point, and it cuts right to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the heart of the sociological debate here.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: CTE provides a biological scapegoat. If it's just a brain
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: disease caused by football... then society doesn't have to look
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: in the mirror. We don't have to examine the culture
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: we've built.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Because the documentary goes deep into that culture. And it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is a culture of extreme compartmentalization and toxic pressure.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: The film delves into his violent upbringing in Bristol, Connecticut,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: where physical aggression was just normalized as a way to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: solve problems. But crucially, it also brings in the testimony
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of Dennis Sansousi, his high school quarterback.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Sansousi detailed that he and Hernandez had shared a hidden
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: sexual relationship spanning from middle school into high school.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And we really have to place that hidden sexuality within
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: its specific context. We are talking about the hyper-masculine, notoriously
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: homophobic environment of elite locker room football in the 2000s
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and early 2010s. That was brutal. For a young man
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: trying to survive and dominate in that world. Being outed
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: wouldn't just be socially difficult. In his mind, it would
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: have been a career-ending, identity-destroying threat.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So the psychological burden of carrying that secret while simultaneously
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: being expected to perform as the ultimate aggressive alpha male
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: gladiator on the field, it creates an impossible cognitive dissonance.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: It creates a pressure cooker. Yeah. He had to build
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: these impenetrable walls in his mind. He had a compartment
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: for the NFL star, a compartment for the loving father,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a compartment for the closeted man, and a compartment for
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the violent enforcer who demanded respect on the streets.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: All separate.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Right. But here is the tragedy of compartmentalization. When the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: structural integrity of your brain is literally decaying from CTE,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: those walls are going to collapse.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just crumble.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: The violence from one compartment naturally bleeds into the others.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: He was a multifaceted monster. But he was a monster
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: created in a very specific cultural laboratory. We demanded he
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: be violent on Sunday. We ignored the warning signs of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: his erratic behavior because he could catch a football. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we created a culture where he felt he had to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: bury his true self to survive.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: The genius of the narratorless format is that it refuses
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to give you the easy out. The raw phone calls
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: prove that his agony and his cruelty were completely intertwined.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Amidst all of that chaos, though, and all of that
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: analysis of why he did what he did, There was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: one detail in the source coverage of this case that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: just stops me in my tracks every time.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I think I know what you're going to say.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: It's about Odin Lloyd's mother, Ursula Ward.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, it is
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a moment of profound moral clarity in a story that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: is otherwise entirely devoid of it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Her son was murdered in cold blood, shot multiple times,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and left in an industrial park.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Just horrific.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And yet, during the victim impact statements at the trial...
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Ursula Ward stood up and publicly expressed her forgiveness toward
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: We talk so much about impulse control regarding Hernandez, right?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: He had millions of dollars. He had adoring fans, immense
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: physical power. Yet he was completely enslaved by his environment,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: his decaying brain chemistry, and his rage.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He had zero control.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Zero. And then you have Ursula Ward, a grieving mother
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: who has had the absolute most precious thing in her
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: life violently stolen from her. biologically, psychologically. She has every
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: right to be consumed by vengeance.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: She has every right to want him to suffer.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: But she exhibits the ultimate display of grace and emotional regulation.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: She chose radical forgiveness. She refused to let his violence
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: dictate the condition of her soul. Ernenez's story is one
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of total structural collapse. Ursula Ward's story is a testament
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to the indestructible nature of human resilience.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And again, this highlights the limitation of the true crime format,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I think. Like, Netflix can play the eerie audio of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a fractured mind. They can show you the MRI scans
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of a decaying brain. But understanding the true quiet weight
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of a mother's forgiveness.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's harder to capture.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Much harder. That requires a level of empathy that goes
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: far beyond just pressing next episode on your remote.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Which brings up a really fascinating question about who gets
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: this kind of nuanced prestige treatment in the first place,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't it?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. Because Michelle Carter was a suburban teenager. And her
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: texts were debated in high school hallways and on national
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: morning shows.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And Aaron Hernandez was arguably one of the most visible
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: men in the Commonwealth. So because they possessed massive societal visibility,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: their crimes received these multi-part, high-budget, psychologically complex deep dives
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on Hulu and Netflix.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Right. They get the slow motion cinematography and the moody
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: orchestral soundtracks. They get treated as complex puzzles to be solved.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But what happens when the victims aren't just invisible to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the perpetrator, but are completely invisible to society itself? What
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: happens to the stories of the people we choose not
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to see?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: What happens is that predators operate with absolute impunity. Not
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: because they are evil geniuses playing chess with the police,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: but because nobody cares enough to look for the missing pieces.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting and a lot darker.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: This shifts us to the final case in the MassLive article,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and it is undoubtedly the most gruesome.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: We are leaving the prestige sheen of Hulu and Netflix behind,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and we are entering the gritty, visceral reality of the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Investigation Discovery Network. The show is called A Body in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the Basement, and it focuses on Stuart Weldon.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: This case, I mean, it truly tests the limits of
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: our ability to comprehend evil operating right in our own backyards.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It really does. Weldon was a serial killer operating in Springfield, Massachusetts.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: His arrest in 2018 made national headlines. but it certainly
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: didn't spark the same sustained, water-cooler cultural obsession as the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Patriots player.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No, it faded much quicker.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Right. Weldon is currently serving three consecutive life sentences. He
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to dozens of criminal charges, including three counts
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of first-degree murder.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: The sheer volume of the charges, I mean dozens of them,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: it speaks to a sustained, terrifying, and prolonged period of operation.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: He was active for a long time.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And his method of operation is where we see society's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: blind spots weaponized to a horrific degree.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Weldon admitted to luring drug-addicted sex workers to his home.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: He would hold them against their will, beat them, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: rape them. And the discoveries made by police at his
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: home on Page Boulevard are the stuff of literal nightmares.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: The youngest victim, Kayla Escalante, who is 27 and from Ludlow,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: she was discovered in a downstairs bathroom of the home.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Just The proximity of that violence to everyday domestic life
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: is staggering.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It really is. And the other two victims, America Lydon,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: who was 34, and Ernestine Ryans, who was 47, both
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: from Springfield, they were found buried in the backyard and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: under a shed on the property.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: We need to introduce a criminological concept here called the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: less dead.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: The less dead. That's a grim term.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It is grim, but it describes how society and historically
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: law enforcement places different values on victims based on their
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: social status.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Okay.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: When we think of serial killers, pop culture conditions us
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to imagine like Hannibal Lecter. Right.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: The mastermind.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Right. We picture these brilliant, meticulous planners who are toying
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: with the FBI. But the reality of Stuart Weldon brings
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: us to Hannah Arendt's concept of the banality of evil.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is. The scariest monsters aren't evil geniuses.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: They're just opportunists taking advantage of the people we choose
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to ignore.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Precisely. Weldon targeted the absolute most marginalized, vulnerable group of
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: people mentioned in our entire discussion today. Drug-addicted sex workers. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: These are individuals who are often estranged from their support systems,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: ignored by the general public, and tragically under-prioritized by the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: justice system. If a prominent lawyer goes missing... there are
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: helicopters in the air within 24 hours. Right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It's top-of-the-hour news.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: But if a sex worker battling addiction goes missing, it
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: might not even be officially reported for months.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So Weldon didn't have to be a mastermind at all.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: He didn't have to outsmart brilliant detectives. He just had
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to prey on the invisible.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: He weaponized their marginalization.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I look at this case, and I liken Weldon's reign
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of terror to a termite infestation in the foundation of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a house.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: That's a good way to look at it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Because you mentioned his address, Page Boulevard in Springfield. This
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: is a residential area. This isn't an isolated, creepy cabin
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: deep in the woods. This is a house on a
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: normal street.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Neighbors walk their dogs past that house. The mail carrier
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: dropped off letters. Cars drove by every single day. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: they were all completely unaware of the absolute rot, the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: horrific violence happening right inside the walls and right under
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the shed in the backyard.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Because it looked normal. Right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And why didn't they see it? Because they were conditioned
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: by society to avert their eyes from the very people
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Weldon was targeting. If you see a struggling sex worker
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: on the corner, society trains you to look the other way.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Weldon relied on that exact averting of eyes.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: The structural integrity of the neighborhood looked perfectly fine from
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the outside, but underneath it was hollowed out by pure predation.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And you look at the stark contrast in how these
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: television networks handle these stories. It is infuriating.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It really highlights the bias.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: It does. Hulu and Netflix created these beautifully shot psychological
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: dramas for Carter and Hernandez. But Weldon's gruesome reality, three
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: women dead, a community shattered, gets relegated to a gritty,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: cheap thrills investigation discovery format.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: It's almost as if the media ecosystem perfectly mirrors society's biases.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: The attractive teenager and the famous athlete get prestige analysis.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: The serial killer who targets marginalized women gets a show
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: called A Body in the Basement.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: The medium is absolutely the message here. The packaging of
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the true crime tells you exactly how much societal value
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the network executives believe the audience places on the subjects.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Hulu and Netflix are selling a sophisticated psychological puzzle. Investigation
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Discovery is selling visceral, immediate shock.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: A freak show almost.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Right. And in doing so, the nuanced human tragedy of
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Kayla Escalante, America Leiden, and Ernestine Ryan's risks being entirely
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: overshadowed by the sheer macabre nature of of where their
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: remains were found.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: It reduces their entire existence to a punchline in a
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: horror story, a body in the basement. They aren't framed
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: as mothers, daughters, or human beings who struggled and loved
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and were loved. They are just props for a jump scare.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And we have to talk about his downfall because it
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: highlights another incredibly precarious element of our justice system.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: We really do because I want to push back on
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: this idea of justice being this inevitable sweeping force.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: The Hollywood version of justice.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Right. We watch these shows. And we are conditioned to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: believe that if you commit a crime, a team of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: brilliant detectives will inevitably track you down, connect all the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: dots on a cork with red string, and slap the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: cuffs on you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It rarely happens that way.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But when you look at how Weldon was actually caught,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it points to the terrifying fragility of justice. He wasn't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: caught by a massive, sweeping detective hunt. He was caught
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: during a routine traffic stop.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: A busted taillight, speeding... A simple moving violation, the most
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: mundane of police interactions.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Even then, it wasn't some brilliant deduction by the officer
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: at the window shining his flashlight. Weldon was pulled over,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and it was the sheer, unimaginable bravery of a female
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: passenger in his car who spoke up.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: An incredible moment of courage.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: She was sitting there, trapped with a monster, and she
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: made the split-second decision to tell the police that he
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: had been holding her against her will and beating her.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That single sentence is what brought the House of Cards down.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: That was the catalyst.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That is what led Springfield police detectives Daniel Moynihan and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Joseph Levesque, who were actually featured in the episode, to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: get a warrant and unravel the horrors at Page Boulevard.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I want you to reflect on the sheer mathematical terror
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: of that. Right. How often are these predators only caught
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: by pure blind chance?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: How many times had Weldon been pulled over for a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: minor traffic infraction over the years? while he had a
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: victim terrified into silence in the passenger seat or a
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: body buried in his basement, and he simply drove away
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: with a warning.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: The margin between a serial killer continuing his spree and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: being caught is often razor thin.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It came down to a moment of unimaginable terror and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: bravery from one woman looking at a police officer and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: risking her life by speaking out. She broke the cycle
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of invisibility. Weldon relied on his victims being too marginalized,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: too terrified, or too distrustful of the police to seek
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: help from the very authorities who often criminalize them.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: That's the tragic irony.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: When that passenger spoke up, she didn't just save her
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: own life. She spoke for Kayla, America, and Ernestine. She
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: forced society to finally look at Page Boulevard and see
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the rot.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: She is the true hero of this entire narrative.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Not the detectives, not the documentarians, that unnamed passenger. It
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: strips away all the Hollywood glamour of true crime and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: leaves you with the stark reality of how close we
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: all live to the edge of the abyss.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sobering.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And how much we rely on the sheer, desperate bravery
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of strangers to keep us safe.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You start by watching a show for entertainment, but if
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you look closely enough at the reality behind the screen,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you are confronted with the gaping foundational flaws in our
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: societal structure.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the end of our journey today.
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  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean to you listening to this?
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  Speaker 1: We have explored how true crime media acts as a heavy,
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  Speaker 1: distorting filter on human tragedy. We've seen how a teenager's
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  Speaker 1: text messages can legally cross the threshold into a lethal weapon,
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  Speaker 1: flattening empathy into a digital screen.
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  Speaker 2: We've witnessed a celebrity's violently fractured psyche exposed not by
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  Speaker 2: a narrator, but through the raw, contradictory echoes of prison
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  Speaker 2: phone lines. exposing the rot of CTE and toxic locker
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  Speaker 2: room culture.
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  Speaker 1: And we've stood on a normal street in Springfield, realizing
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  Speaker 1: that a serial killer was hiding right beneath the floorboards,
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  Speaker 1: thriving on the fact that society chose not to look
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  Speaker 1: at his victims.
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  Speaker 2: It is a heavy realization that the content we consume
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  Speaker 2: as evening entertainment is, at its core, a direct indictment
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  Speaker 2: of our own collective vulnerabilities, our legal shortcomings, and our
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  Speaker 2: deep-seated biases.
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  Speaker 1: So why do we do this? Why do we subject
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  Speaker 1: ourselves to these stories?
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  Speaker 2: To answer that, this race is an important question, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to direct your attention to the very margins
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  Speaker 2: of the MassLive article we've been referencing today.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the margins?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at the actual webpage from September 2026,
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  Speaker 2: and you scroll past the streaming recommendations, past the glossy
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  Speaker 2: photos of Elle Fanning playing dress-up, past Aaron Hernandez in
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  Speaker 2: his Patriots uniform... you find the more news sidebar.
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  Speaker 1: The sidebar. The little column on the right where the
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  Speaker 1: algorithm dumps the things it thinks you might technically need
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  Speaker 1: to know, but not enough to make them the main event.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And sitting right there in the margins of this
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  Speaker 2: article are reports of massive real-time tragedies. There is a
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  Speaker 2: headline about a cargo ship fire in a port in
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  Speaker 2: China that has left 20 people dead and five missing. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Just below that, There is a report of a fairy
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  Speaker 2: fire in the Philippines, leaving five dead and 80 people missing.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking about over 100 human lives either extinguished
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  Speaker 1: or completely unaccounted for in horrific, terrifying circumstances. Mothers, fathers, children.
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  Speaker 2: Real systemic human suffering happening in real time on the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the globe. Yeah. Yet they are relegated
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  Speaker 2: to tiny bullet points next to an article analyzing true
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  Speaker 2: crime television shows.
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  Speaker 1: And that is the final thought we want to leave
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  Speaker 1: you to mull over today. We started by talking about
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene tape, that safe boundary we set up
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  Speaker 1: to keep the horror contained on our screens so we
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  Speaker 1: can safely view it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But why is it that our society will eagerly sit
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  Speaker 1: down and binge watch six hours of an intricately scored
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  Speaker 1: documentary analyzing the twisted psychology of a single teenager in
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  Speaker 1: Massachusetts or the tragic fall of one athlete? But the
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  Speaker 1: sudden horrifying loss of nearly 100 lives in a fairy
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  Speaker 1: fire is just a forgotten bullet point of the sidebar.
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  Speaker 2: What does our insatiable appetite for curated, individualized true crime
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  Speaker 2: say about our capacity to process real, massive human suffering?
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  Speaker 1: Do we only care about tragedy when it has a
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  Speaker 1: catchy title, a clear villain, and a Hollywood actor playing
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  Speaker 1: the lead? It's a question that challenges the very nature
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  Speaker 1: of our empathy in the modern age. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: taking this deep dive with us. Keep questioning the narratives
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  Speaker 1: you were fed. Keep looking past the screen and never
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  Speaker 1: forget to check the sidebar. We'll catch you next time.