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Have you been Tom?
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What's been going on?
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Yeah, things are fun right now, Dr. Joe.
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I mean, all things considered, what a week?
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Right now, I'm in rehearsal for Auntie Mame, sitting around the parking lot.
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Because it is. It is a very nice night.
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First nice night of the year.
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Dare I say it's a it's a cool 60.
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Yeah.
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And but sixties.
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Ah, we'll get into that sixties and seventies.
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That's kind of cool.
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So how's the show going? It's going well.
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I mean, I'm not used to this kind of rehearsal process because,
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first off, I joined in pretty late, relatively in the production process.
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It's a space I'm not used to here in Kingston.
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It's a smaller space,
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but we're going to make use of it and make it a lot more immersive.
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More immersive?
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Yeah, that sounds interesting.
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Immersive.
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Well, we can talk about that, but that's actually a wonderful Segway
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because there was a lot of immersive stuff going on over the weekend,
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and that leads us right into our guest.
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Could you introduce we have three guests tonight
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maybe for Tom, if you could introduce our guest for tonight, please.
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Well, Lucky Joe, I understand tonight we had plans,
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the Zoom crew that includes Donna more.
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I got Leon Mobley, Leon May.
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Come on, we'll see.
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Oh, we got Kenny Pires.
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Kenny May. Come on, we'll see.
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We got more. Melanie more.
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Melanie is absolutely here.
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As well
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as a friend you met over the weekends.
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One Stuart Hirsch doing a version.
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The Booker LaVar Zoom thing.
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The reason for the season.
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Stuart Hirsch.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, think so. Let's on. Unmute.
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Let's hear from you first. There were.
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Yes, hello. How is everybody?
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Great. So doing. Yo.
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It's great seeing you guys.
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And thank you all for a wonderful, wonderful weekend.
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The Chili Theater Expo, the the Zoom reunion was just
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I couldn't have asked for better it was a dream come true for me.
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Yeah. Wonderful.
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Well, maybe you can tell people what it was.
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What is Chiller Theater and how did you get into all of this?
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OK, Chiller Theaters started a little over 30 years ago
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in New Jersey, and it's run by a man named Kevin Clemens.
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And he started it back then as a horror convention.
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That's why it's called Chiller Theater Expo.
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But over the years,
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he's developed it into
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pretty much a who's who of television and movies and all of your favorites.
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So I started off by first getting in around the horror time.
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I managed Bobby Boris Pickett, who did the song Monster MASH,
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a Summerville Boy.
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And I brought him there.
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And when I called up Kevin with him
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and I said, How would you like to have Bobby Pickett?
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He said, Well, yeah, but we always have Zachary Lee here.
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John Zachary Lee, who was a DJ,
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but also a recording artist that did Monster Novelty Records.
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And he covered Monster MASH, and it got out bigger than Bobby's at first,
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and then Bobby's came out, and the rest is history.
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But Kevin said, I want to get the both of them
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on stage together to sing Monster MASH.
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And that that happened in the first time that I was at Chiller which was 17
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years ago.
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And when
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I once approached faculty that I was the manager of Bobby Pickett,
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he said, Well, I always tell people that my version of Monster MASH is me
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doing an imitation of Bobby, Boris Pickett doing an imitation of Boris Karloff.
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That's great. So.
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You know, when Bobby passed that, I needed to get some more guests
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that that that would that would be kind of like the same vibe.
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So to me, it was at that time, it was monsters and,
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and Kid stuff, you know, which is what I thought Monster MASH represented.
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And so I brought in Ray Parker Jr, who did Ghostbusters
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and another Massachusetts guy, Frank Average,
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who was the first Bozo the Clown, first nationally syndicated Bozo the Clown.
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And over the years, I've done reunions you know, like the Love Boat cast,
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Perfect Strangers,
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just just a lot a lot of fun times bringing in,
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bringing in people that bring back the good times to people.
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And that's really what I'm about with this thing.
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You also have a really special team around
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you and one Abe record his daughter.
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Oh, yeah, sure.
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Carol Vigoda is just a fantastic person.
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A great friend.
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When when Abe was 94 years old,
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a friend of mine ran into him in a restaurant in New York City,
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and he said, Could I have your information?
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You know, my friend might want you to to, you know, come to a convention.
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It's all. Here's Abe's daughter's number.
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So I called her up, and she had been called by everybody,
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and her first thing was like, he's too old.
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He's not going to do this convention the whole weekend.
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So I brainstormed and I had this idea.
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I said, he lives in the city.
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I said, Let's just send a limo for him and we'll bring him there.
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We'll put him into the professional photo room.
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With a couch.
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He'll sit on the end of the couch, and one by one,
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everybody sits on the other end of the couch.
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They take their pictures, and he goes home
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and this way, children could have him as a guest.
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We'll showcase that.
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And he came in. He sat on the end of the couch.
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I said to her all along, I said, Do you think he'll do more than one day?
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She says, I don't know.
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He said, he really only wants to do one day.
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And he sat there and by the third person that sat down
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after they left, he looked up and he went next
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come in and he had this all down and he loved it.
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And it went by so fast that he turns to Carol and he goes This is great.
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Can we come back tomorrow?
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And she goes, No.
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It's Saturday.
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And so God bless him.
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Yeah.
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He came that's when he was 92, and then he came back
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two years later at 94 was his last public appearance.
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And God bless him, he was he was just wonderful.
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Great, great. So Carol became.
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A longtime friend, a very, very good friend.
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Yeah. Well, I.
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Can see how it happens with us.
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Just having our first weekend with you this weekend.
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I am like, Oh my God, his family and, and, and their family.
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And it's like yeah, that was it was really there was a lot of
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like really hosts and going around nice doctors.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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The biological domain was taken definitely.
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Definitely.
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It was a fascinating experience.
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I would have, but I'd never heard of anything like this before.
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So how did you how did you first hear about this?
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These sort of things?
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I had actually attended some of these things.
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You know, I was one of those guys.
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They came to one of these events going, oh, wow, so-and-so is there.
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I want to go meet them.
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I want to get an autograph from them or take a picture with them.
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I, I love the concept of these conventions.
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First of all, Kevin runs
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chiller unlike, unlike a lot of other conventions.
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He runs chiller
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I asked him once, I said, why do you do this?
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And he said, Because it brings back the good times to people.
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It brings back that happy times to people.
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And that's really the best reason to be doing one of these conventions.
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The concept of having celebrities at a convention
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to do autographs and pictures is
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a great concept.
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Some some celebrities along
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the way have been like, Oh, I don't want to sell my autograph.
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But the bottom line is,
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rather than then then bother a celebrity in a restaurant
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or a men's room, you know, you see them advertised at a convention.
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You know, they're going to be there.
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It's dramatic.
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You know,
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you're going to get your autograph, you're going to get your photo with them
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and everybody comes out, you know, good as as the result
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so it's it's kind of like you walk in
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and it's the celebrity flea market, you know, there they are.
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And you go up to them and you and you get a chance to to meet your hero.
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You know, I always tell people it's like it's like having that TV
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show that you loved, and now you can climb inside the set yeah.
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It was wild.
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We had one person in particular came up, and we hear a lot of stories
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from people who did not grow up in the Boston area
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that told stories of all when I begged my mother, move us to Boston
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so I can be on Zoom.
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So one in particular I'm
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thinking of we we kind of said, well, come on, get a picture with us.
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You're an honorary zoomer now.
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I can tell you, I'm finally made it
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another.
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Thing that's sweet of us.
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Is kind. Of a neat thing to be.
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Able to do that for people.
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Really, really. It's it's so true.
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So I, I just want to let the audience understand what we're talking about here.
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We, the zoom kids were invited by Stewart Hirsch
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to go to a basically a nostalgia conference
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where there were hundreds and hundreds of celebrities.
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And also theater. Expo.
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Yeah.
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I have never considered myself a celebrity, and yet
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that seemed to be what we were seen as.
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But there was even more.
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We were part of these people's childhood, which is a remarkable thing.
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Absolutely.
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And Stewart, has that been
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your experience with his fans in general?
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With all sorts? Yeah.
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It's, you know, it's funny, I brought in like I said, I brought in Frank.
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Every issue is the first Bozo the Clown, you know, and
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and this was like like Zoom was
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Bozo was there were kids, I could say for myself.
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I was five years old. Bozo was my first friend.
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Before I even had probably a real friend in life.
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I was watching Bozo.
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There were kids, probably a lot of latchkey kids that were just, you know,
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that that Zoom were their friends.
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And the interesting thing
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is, you know, speaking of the children's part of it,
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I used to bring out Caroll Spinney, who did Big Bird, and people
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would come up to Carol at the table and and they would start to cry
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talking to him and hearing him do that voice.
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And then the first time I worked
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with Jerry Mathers, who was the Beaver, Leave It to Beaver, I told him this story.
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And I said, people started to cry when they came up to Carroll.
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Do they do they do that with you?
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And he said, Nope.
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They come up like they're my buddy, like they're my friend.
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And that's how they approached you guys.
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You know.
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Sesame
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Street was amazing just on so many levels.
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And wow, also, it had a but we had Big Bird at the Chiller Theater.
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Actually, I got some great photos.
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And we had the costume.
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We asked Dr.
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Joe, you and I have a couple go on set. That's right.
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I have some good ones with Melissa Gilbert, which was like an honor
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to hang out with she and her husband.
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They're great people. Wow.
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More you want to talk about that, right?
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You were touching on that, Joe.
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And that's this idea that I think we all agree on that
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we never thought of ourselves even now as celebrities.
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I mean, we were kids on a show and it was a different era.
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It wasn't that kind of
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cult of personality kind of world that we live in now.
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I mean, we weren't encouraged to be or act
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like child stars it was discouraged.
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So meeting some of the celebrities at this
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chiller convention
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who were starstruck to meet us
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was just the only thing I can say is it was mind blowing.
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I mean, it was absolutely mind blowing.
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Yeah. I want. To go back right.
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Before I'm sorry, if I may, just as a zoomer,
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because like, I went to NYU drama school
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and I pursued the arts and it wasn't like
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I never got to the place where I was a celebrity.
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But but it was
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I don't know, it was just really an an honor
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to meet the people who are
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they were just such good people. And
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yeah, it was
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pretty cool just to see how
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incredibly human and kind and generous that
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you know, celebrities and past celebrities are.
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So sorry. No.
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No, no, no, no.
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I just.
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Melissa Gilbert, came back like, like three or four times to hang with you guys.
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She brought her dog over.
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For you guys for dog. She coffee?
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Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Grandma's and what did she say?
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Did she say to you guys that you guys influenced her one.
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Time.
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Because of this?
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She got into entertainment and. That's.
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He got in Little House on the Prairie, I think it was 74.
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So, you know.
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Just a little after the zoo time.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So you were you were her influence to do what she was doing.
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That's amazing.
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That must you you guys feel so good.
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It so did felt crazy.
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It's really crazy.
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It was was the same with Mindy Cohen.
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She came over all like, you know, like
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you people.
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I was just like it's more like for us.
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Just kind of really very humbling.
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Well, it was, you know, when I when I first called up
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Kevin and I said I said, what about a Zoom reunion?
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He goes, We're gonna zoom, zoom, zoom.
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He said, oh, great.
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I can't get that out of my head now.
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He said, Let's. Do this.
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Now. Just think of something else.
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Think something up. Yeah, yeah.
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I want him to realize that this was 50 years ago.
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Zoom was 1972 was the first show
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and half a century later, people come up to us
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and are grateful
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that we were there for them in their living room.
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Yes, every day, just hanging out as friends.
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And that's part of what Zoom was, was we were just friends.
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There was, there was no let's or glitch or anything like that.
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That was like fancy.
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We were just kids being kids.
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And it really it made this foundation
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of respect and value and trust.
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And that's what the Zoom kids were about.
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We felt very valued.
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Can I say, what was my favorite thing in the weekend
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if I had to like take and I have so many like we could even play the game of
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what do you like go around ten times, right?
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My favorite was the Zoom adults, zoom
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kids on Saturday night at 10:00
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singing the Zoom theme song to a heavy metal.
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Crazy.
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And just crazy.
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Like that's the perfect
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that is such a great treatment for the show if we were ever to find
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any relevancy now, you know, like I want to put out a production
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of heavy metal production and that the thing was crazy.
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I thought it was great. Yeah. How about you?
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I mean, what was your favorite.
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Oh, I think it'd be hard to top that.
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Oh, that was that was amazing.
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But, you know, in a, in a general sense, it's
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kind of what we've already touched on when people have driven
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long way to come and meet us
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and come up with these
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just beautiful stories and memories
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for a show that has not been on in reruns.
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There are very few clips even on YouTube nowadays.
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I you know, humbling, heartwarming.
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What an honor.
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And I just wanted to make sure, you know, from a personal point that I was very
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you know, that I could actually really connect for a little bit
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with these folks and give them my attention and and really,
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you know, make it a personalized experience.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think we did. Yeah.
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How are you doing?
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Sorry. What was your favorite experience?
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If you had one? If you could just say one.
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I think that, you know, there was a moment where this man comes up and was Mike
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and he is he's getting teary.
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He's actually getting teary.
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I said, what's he said, oh, you know, it's just an emotional person said, but,
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you know, I'm but God sakes, I'm a psychiatrist now.
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See somebody getting teary, I'm going to ask him what's going on now.
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We we were part of his family.
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Yeah, we had an influence on him.
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He he was became, I think, the the head
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animator for DC Comics, for Batman, Superman, all those things.
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And I was brought brought his life to zoom in there,
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so and he was getting really choked up.
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Yeah.
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And that was the part that was just really remarkable to me
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that, you know, the I am approach, as you guys know,
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basically is saying that because everyone's interested
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in what you think or feel about them, we all want the same thing,
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which is to feel valued and valuable
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and without doing anything
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just by being on Zoom,
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these people connected with us
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and I think they're horrible.
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But Joe it's not like you weren't doing anything.
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You guys were amazing.
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You guys, you guys kept the show.
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Just, just it was fun. It was moving.
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It was it was funny. It was.
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Going on.
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We have to thank Leon for putting us on every 15 minutes singing.
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It. To it.
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We were you're talking about the weekend or 50 years ago or.
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No, no.
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I'm talking about both.
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Yeah, I'm talking about both.
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You guys you guys went in and did something in a studio that that
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that people kids each day would go in and they would, they would look for it.
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It was, you know, it was part of their daily routine
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was, was to watch you guys
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and to learn and to learn to speak to be Debbie.
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Rabbi. That was terrible.
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That's that's one thing we did have a conversation with Melissa Gilbert.
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So that's pretty that's pretty that's incredible.
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Incredible.
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Yeah.
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Most of it was once yes.
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Can I can I be really
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I want to be really authentic and if there's a compliment at the end.
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So I'm not just
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but I want to admit that
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it took me a couple of years because luckily and thank you, Maura
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and thank you Stuart for talking and Maura and talk marriage wood and stuff,
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you know, and being the, you know, the entree to it.
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But I, I think I was a little judgy because I'd never been
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to one of these Comic-Con things.
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And then after being, having been a child on television
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and then having been judged by it or whatever, I don't know.
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I'm just saying it was I just didn't understand it.
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And then Joe and I get there Thursday night,
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and then we start at 5:00 on Friday, and I just what.
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A lovely afternoon, folks.
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5:00 in the afternoon. Oh.
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By that's one.
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Thing I noticed about everyone was just how kind they are.
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But I have to admit, I was kind of like,
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you know, I don't know, there was a little separation in between.
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I was just like, oh, now I'm like, OK, you know, there's,
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there's kind of,
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you know, misfits or that's what I thought.
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And then I have to tell you,
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within 15 minutes, all of a sudden,
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I'm like, I am a misfit.
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Like, I was like the whole chiller universe.
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You know how they call it the Marvel Universe.
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Like, once you get in, like, boomerang bang, bang, I swear something happened.
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It was more like 2 hours, I have to admit.
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But it was so much kindness and generosity with everyone
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being so, like, joyful and oxytocin.
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But absolutely. Happen where?
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I don't know.
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And this is like right before Melissa Gilbert and then the other
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people and stuff but all of a sudden I went to a different universe.
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So I and I admitted up guys, I do.
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And all of a sudden I like had the best time would felt like heaven on earth.
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It was so much fun to get the best people.
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So you don't have something to hide.
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Yeah, I just it's funny in putting this together,
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you know, I first called Maura and said, you know, is this possible?
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Can you, can you, you know, call this whatever
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that you think that one would do it?
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And she I mean, you know, God bless her.
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She'd she came through and really,
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you know, was was the go to for me to get this going.
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And then, Joe, you added to it and said, I'll call this one that.
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One that's like.
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But along the way,
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then my mind starts to turn and I go, OK, so they're all going to be there and
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and I go online and I'm looking and looking and looking
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and I find the striped shirts. The red.
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Shirt. Yeah.
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And I'm like, I have to get them in the right color and the right everything.
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And I and then I had to get the courage to say,
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would you guys mind putting those on for this? Yes.
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And I will tell you that when I saw you guys first come down in those shirts,
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you guys all looked at each other like, oh, my God, like you were.
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So it seemed like you were so impressed with each other.
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One, I forgot who it was, but one year to the other and said,
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you look, you agree you haven't aged at all.
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You know.
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There you are in there.
23:56
Sure.
23:57
Sort of fun.
23:58
And I just realized, though, those were mentioned, so I'm now I'm wondering.
24:02
So it was another show in July
24:05
which we'll talk about I think I'm going to do a little sewing of mine.
24:09
Yeah. 100% were.
24:12
They were they were.
24:13
When you had the shirts on in the original show, were they
24:16
were they just a set line of straight shirts?
24:19
They looked to me like they were, you know, uniform.
24:22
We were they were it.
24:23
But our bodies were.
24:24
Like a mess.
24:25
Well, it's like a woman's locker
24:29
you know?
24:30
But but you did you found you found the products
24:33
and you got us in touch with it, and that's what it's all about.
24:36
It is the product as well.
24:39
Just think about what this means.
24:41
What is nostalgia?
24:43
What is the attraction of this?
24:47
Because it was it was a remarkable experience.
24:50
And as my colleagues were saying,
24:53
it felt like a family.
24:56
It felt like like a welcoming group of people who all were
25:02
there just to enjoy memories no matter what was happening in their world.
25:07
Right now, this was a place they could go.
25:11
Not it's not about escaping.
25:14
It's about remembering and reliving.
25:16
Well, I got the feeling because I had the honor
25:21
and I was admitting about like just being judging, not about people,
25:24
but about the event it's
25:28
no disrespect at all to anyone,
25:31
but but in meaning there are people like they have become family
25:35
after coming for 30 years to the chiller event and
25:40
and now they have the little kids have kids and like it's just this
25:45
there was so much love and respect and kindness and generosity and empathy,
25:49
which was also like what we had with Zoom and it didn't matter,
25:53
you know, like it's just like
25:56
you know,
25:58
just be you kind of thing and
26:00
but the big kind be you and have fun and.
26:04
And I wanted, I wanted to say our listeners
26:06
know though that some of these folks must have spent hours
26:09
Kenny in their own costumes without a costume.
26:12
I mean. Oh, yeah. Amazing little girl.
26:16
Who looked like, you know, was like Loki.
26:18
But her dad was one of the people from Star Wars.
26:21
I mean, they were they were into it.
26:24
It's so cool.
26:25
When I bring a celebrity out to to Chiller, I go, Well, it's called Chili.
26:29
They go, What?
26:30
What is it like?
26:31
I go, Well, it's really the people are really, really nice, but
26:34
they may walk up to you with cat eyes and a hatchet in their head.
26:38
Right. OK, yes.
26:40
And then they do.
26:41
Like the lady, the honest face or something.
26:45
Yes. Yeah.
26:46
The guy with that thing.
26:47
With the eye. Yeah. Oh, my God.
26:50
Yeah.
26:51
It was so remarkable.
26:53
You know, there was someone if I may one second.
26:57
Hello. Of is more cautious about Laura.
27:00
I was just going to say you were touching on what is it about?
27:03
And I think
27:05
in our particular case with Zoom and people
27:10
that were young in the sixties and seventies,
27:15
you know, we were I've said this many times,
27:18
I feel very strongly about we were the last generation of kids
27:23
who could really just be innocent and just be kids.
27:26
And we weren't inundated with technology.
27:28
We didn't have video games and we didn't have, you know, the VCR or cell phones or
27:35
smartphones or anything.
27:37
So in some ways, I think that the nostalgia is for
27:43
you know, that
27:44
longing for that kind of simpler, more innocent time.
27:49
And maybe there's something in the connections
27:53
that we made through that show all those years ago
27:56
that brings people back to that sense of it's
28:00
OK and we can still make authentic connections to people.
28:03
And that simple,
28:07
good parts of life are still there inside all of us.
28:10
We just have to find how to plug into it.
28:15
Oh, yeah, yeah.
28:16
I just, like many of the people who loved us, also loved,
28:21
you know, some others celebrities, especially our favorite Walter Bright
28:25
Skate, who was very happy, you know, about getting Mickey Dance's signature.
28:31
And, you know,
28:33
but there's just it's a generosity of spirit.
28:37
That's the thing that I loved so much as I was telling Joe
28:42
I have to admit, we stopped for dinner and before we drove back to Massachusetts
28:47
and I started crying tears of joy but I was like
28:53
I said, ah, I said, I felt seen this weekend.
28:58
And usually I see people, but I don't always feel seen.
29:03
And you just sort of go about make the best of everything but best situation.
29:08
I was like, I don't know.
29:09
There was something really you know, quite, quite beautiful.
29:14
And it was just such a great time.
29:18
It's sort of been in the span of four days since we've gotten back,
29:22
and it's kind of like, OK, every day you got to downshift
29:26
a little bit more to like go back into reality.
29:29
You know, that's true.
29:31
I imagine that must be what Burning Man is like,
29:34
which I've never been to or, you know, something else for
29:40
me. One, you know, there's
29:44
this is being studied in some ways as well.
29:47
So an article came out in 20, 21 in the journal Emotions entitled
29:52
The Soldier Promotes Help Seeking by fostering social connectedness.
29:58
So what does that really mean?
30:00
That again, when you feel that you have a group that you connect with,
30:05
you can ask them, you can be part of this
30:09
this is this is really an important part
30:12
of what I think we experienced.
30:15
It just felt like these people
30:17
who are strangers to us,
30:21
you know, one of my faces, every friend was once a stranger.
30:24
But they started as strangers. Yes.
30:27
But in a very short amount of time there was this commonality.
30:31
It wasn't it wasn't that we were being like idolized, like, oh, my God, it's Joe.
30:36
It was, I think Janelle.
30:38
You know.
30:38
What you're.
30:40
Telling me? It might just. Be.
30:42
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
30:43
No, says Utah. Oh.
30:46
And in just just from my my point of view being on the outside of Zoom,
30:53
I watched room and saw a group of friends.
30:57
And I think when these people meet you guys, they want to be a friend to.
31:02
And they want to they want to join.
31:03
They want to join and and be one of your friends.
31:07
And that's why they come up that way.
31:08
And that's why you guys hit them that way.
31:11
Because it's because they've watched.
31:13
We didn't actually we didn't actually hit anyone, folks.
31:16
Because
31:18
everyone and we certainly.
31:19
Had an impact on that.
31:20
But every point to it.
31:22
It almost. Sounds.
31:23
Like it almost felt a little bit further
31:27
those who came to, you know, have signed autographs
31:31
and then take pictures and who we we were just so just generous in kind.
31:35
I just have to say, it was like we just so beautiful like the people.
31:40
I don't know. It was it was
31:43
it was really a blessing for me.
31:46
I just I really appreciated that weekend and I'm
31:51
so happy to, you know, have been there and I met some great people.
31:57
I think I have five new best friends and three guys are women.
32:02
And so, like, I'm like, oh, okay.
32:05
And just so people understand that, you know,
32:09
there we are signing autographs for complete strangers
32:14
who didn't feel like strangers within a moment.
32:16
They were like, You are our best friend.
32:20
And the fact that they wanted something, this, this idea that now
32:25
there is a concrete
32:30
product, that they have a signature
32:33
on a picture of them on us,
32:37
it's a powerful, powerful thing.
32:39
You know, so that's so they get their cell phone and somebody takes a picture.
32:43
Now, that's that is now another part of their life.
32:47
It's not on their phone.
32:48
And you know what our phones are like, but, you know, get back to work.
32:51
She's absolutely right.
32:52
We didn't have this tech before.
32:55
We didn't have it.
32:56
And remember 1972 and Zoom is starting
32:59
the world was in its its own state of chaos.
33:03
We are 50 years later.
33:05
More than ever today.
33:07
What's happening blessing you know the civil rights movement
33:11
and there are a group of kids
33:17
African-American white
33:20
Asian Hispanic boys girls
33:24
it didn't matter right became a group
33:29
because we respected each other.
33:32
We valued each other and we trusted and that's why
33:35
those zoom wraps we're all about trust yeah.
33:39
This was spontaneous stuff.
33:41
Not what I saw.
33:42
What I got out of it.
33:43
Absolutely. Absolutely.
33:46
And you know, the thing about the friendships, it's true.
33:50
There was no in the casts that I worked with.
33:53
There was no drama just calling me Kenny
33:58
there was no drama.
33:59
There was no infighting or, you know, this one didn't like that one.
34:04
It was really we just were all together despite the you know, it was a bit of a
34:10
spread and ages and different backgrounds, but none of it mattered.
34:14
Right.
34:16
Legitimately didn't matter.
34:17
It really didn't.
34:18
And that well, that was not, you know, fake.
34:22
That was what we represented.
34:25
We were just hanging out together. Yeah.
34:30
It was
34:30
a powerful time in my life because my parents were going through a divorce
34:35
and there was a lot of angst there was a lot of sadness.
34:37
There was a lot of anger.
34:38
And then there was this world
34:41
of just simple friendship.
34:44
It was right. It was powerful.
34:46
It was powerful.
34:48
You know, it's funny when I'm sorry.
34:49
Go ahead. Now. Go on.
34:52
It. When when Hal Roach did
34:55
The Little Rascals put the Little Rascals together,
34:58
he said he said a mother would bring her daughter in
35:02
and she would do a tap dance and he'd go, I don't want this.
35:05
And the next one would come in and audition.
35:07
And then he said he found himself
35:09
eating lunch and looking out the window at some kids playing outside.
35:13
And he said before he knew it, a half hour had gone by.
35:16
And he said, This is what I want.
35:19
And he put together a group of kids like that that were more real kids.
35:23
And that's what I think.
35:24
Xoom went on to do take that same that same realness of kids
35:30
interacting as friends and bring them to the public, to other kids.
35:37
Yeah, I agree.
35:39
And that's what we did
35:41
was immediately welcome. Yeah.
35:43
Welcome to The Dog Show.
35:45
How have you been, Kenny
35:47
was immuno good because I can see myself.
35:52
Yeah.
35:52
Speaking of everybody.
35:55
Yeah.
35:56
Oh no, no.
35:57
These we've been talking, we've been talking about the experience.
36:00
But what was Kenny?
36:01
Kenny, what was the experience like for you?
36:04
What was the experience like for you?
36:06
But he's been through a lot, you know.
36:10
Yes, yes.
36:11
OK, but
36:14
it was for me
36:16
it was a serious roller coaster.
36:20
But the biggest thing that I got out of it is like, you know, we were just kids.
36:25
I never knew I was the celebrity that I study.
36:31
Yeah, that's how it works.
36:32
And you meet a lot of celebrities
36:36
and I mean, the crazy person I have.
36:41
My challenge is Larry Holmes and Jerry Clooney to fly me in.
36:46
Yes, yes.
36:48
Yes, he did.
36:50
I did.
36:51
Until until Jerry Kearny stood up.
36:54
And I was like, hey, man, I was just kidding.
36:57
And I was just.
36:59
You know, not true story.
37:01
I was there.
37:01
No true story and two story.
37:06
And then he shook my hand.
37:07
I was like, oh, my goodness me. Hug me.
37:10
I was like, oh, I can't remember.
37:13
Let me go. Let me go, man.
37:17
This is the most awesome experience in my life.
37:22
And then the other thing I would tell you is
37:26
the sky's the limit right now for us.
37:29
Yeah.
37:29
Yeah. With that
37:30
in mind, Stuart, you want to tell people about the next place at the gym?
37:34
Kids will show up yeah.
37:36
Well,
37:38
it's going to be July 1st, second and third
37:44
in in Foxborough, Massachusetts,
37:48
at the Northeast Comic-Con. And
37:52
it's going to be
37:53
a really, really incredible Zoom reunion because we're going to have
37:58
a couple of extra people in there adding on to the fun and show.
38:04
Do you want to.
38:05
Go ahead, Stuart?
38:06
Who do you know up so far.
38:08
So very popular. You are you. Are.
38:11
Our manager right now.
38:13
So who do you know? So far is coming in?
38:17
Well, you guys are coming in, correct?
38:19
Yeah, we. Will be there. No, I'm not coming.
38:22
I'm like we're very glad he's not coming, guys.
38:25
Sense of humor.
38:25
It doesn't work on a year for me.
38:28
Stuart, I have heard. Nothing, OK?
38:31
And you are still in the room.
38:34
Well, the rumor seems to be true.
38:36
Joe validated this with me and. I.
38:40
Whenever I say them to people, they go
38:44
Oh, is Bernadette going to be there?
38:48
The girl in the room.
38:49
And and it's an incredible thing. Yes.
38:54
Most of you have learned that.
38:56
Bernadette will be there. And,
38:59
I mean.
39:00
Also, I feel it will be so nice to people like she's
39:04
just going to be such an added benefit of the whole I can.
39:07
Do that thing.
39:08
I'm going to break my arms.
39:09
If I did what she did, you know, I know myself.
39:12
So I don't want to do that.
39:14
I'm not going to be a good let them down the way they are.
39:19
And this should be another beautiful zoomer
39:21
who is so popular and so adorable and still is.
39:26
Nancy will be there, too. Yes.
39:28
Yes. I talked and then we got on the stage today.
39:33
I said, hey, and excited about what we just did.
39:36
And she said, OK.
39:38
She said, let me talk to my husband, her husband.
39:41
And I was like, excited.
39:42
I said, OK, we need to do this thing.
39:45
And I said, excellent.
39:48
So we're good.
39:49
I have what we had this time.
39:53
It's it's it's going to be not only bigger, it's
39:57
going to be right there in Massachusetts where it all began.
40:01
Right.
40:02
And a real homecoming.
40:04
Very, very exciting.
40:06
What is there is there a Web site or something that people can go to?
40:09
They need to sign up for this and they need to buy tickets.
40:12
How do they access it?
40:14
The Web site to the to the Northeast Comic-Con.
40:17
I do not have on me right now I don't know
40:20
if it's as as easy as any Comic-Con dot com.
40:24
It could be
40:26
if somebody who's got a computer in front of them can double check this.
40:30
It's going to be at the root 111
40:34
at Route 49 or the boom box from Massachusetts free parking.
40:39
Free parking. That's always a good deal.
40:43
Yeah.
40:43
Okay. Yeah.
40:44
And they're going to be comics, comic art hunting
40:47
collectibles toys, Hot Wheels, vinyl records, all sorts of things,
40:51
including the kids from Zoom
40:54
collectibles, all of that collectible.
40:57
It's going to share.
41:00
So we have a couple minutes left.
41:03
The I Am approach has to choose
41:06
because the four domains interconnect your home, your social, your biological
41:10
and your icy domain, all of which were incredibly active this weekend.
41:14
Just think about it.
41:15
We were in people's homes 50 years ago.
41:18
They come together in the social domain, ready
41:21
to go to impersonate the hotel.
41:24
They have an icy domain where they are feeling something.
41:27
They feel connected,
41:28
which affects, as Donna said, their brain and release oxytocin.
41:32
Small change is going to big effects.
41:33
I'm just going to ask Stuart this.
41:34
Who is our our sort of guru in this Talya what small change
41:39
can you recommend to people so that they can access nostalgia in themselves?
41:45
I guess just to conjure up those great memories of what
41:48
you you know, what made it fun for you,
41:51
you know, along the way when you were younger.
41:53
And don't let go of those things.
41:56
I you know, I I myself
42:01
I'm the same kid I was when I was a kid.
42:04
You know, you have those elements. You and they.
42:07
Are they are.
42:08
And never never to my my own advice is just never let that part of you go.
42:13
You know, always keep that but inside of you and and
42:18
and always keep that wonder and that curiosity and everything
42:24
everything that goes with with what what you grew up as.
42:27
Don't ever let that that innocence go. Yes.
42:30
Sir you need that around.
42:31
And that's something you want to add to that.
42:33
Yeah, I do.
42:35
I have to say,
42:36
adding on to what Stuart said is when you also when you meet people
42:40
who are modeling that their example that they're being like meet
42:45
the best people look like great hearts and just like beautiful.
42:50
Exactly.
42:52
You know, square footage, they're just amazing.
42:54
It's like it just gives at least speak for myself.
42:57
It just it always helps me like which maybe also falls into your
43:03
I am doctor Joe.
43:04
But like put by being that like we
43:10
are an example
43:11
of it for others and they are an example for us.
43:14
Like, you know.
43:16
He has something to add.
43:17
To our class moving forward.
43:20
Don't give up and stop whatever you have.
43:23
Be happy
43:24
with can the people you love just don't give that bad it.
43:29
Can I add one. Thing to that I read.
43:32
I did an and we and I'm
43:35
not speaking for everybody but I'm just saying
43:38
I never thought about myself as a celebrity
43:43
until this weekend.
43:46
Whereas still oh, no, no, no.
43:49
And thank you.
43:51
All right, go ahead. Yes.
43:53
I guess the small change would be to not be afraid to let that
43:59
innocent side. Oh.
44:01
Right, right.
44:02
Don't be afraid of it because yeah.
44:05
Even know we have all aged over time all right.
44:09
All of that stuff inside.
44:11
And I think it's really important, too,
44:14
to just allow that to be
44:17
whether that ups in your child or whatever you want to call it.
44:20
But, you know, it's all Stuart said,
44:24
don't ever give up that inquisitive
44:27
fun loving
44:28
side no matter where life takes you.
44:32
Larry, thanks for tonight, folks.
44:34
We'll see you next week on the docket. Josh?
44:36
Oh. Sorry.
44:37
Guys, just to show them. Go, go, go.
44:40
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
44:46
Go, go. Go, now.