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Speaker 1: So I want you to just imagine a classic Hollywood
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Speaker 1: film noir script for a second. You know, picture the
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Speaker 1: opening scene.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm picturing it right.
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Speaker 1: So you have this gritty, seasoned city detective and he
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Speaker 1: cracks this really high profile murder case ends up falling
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Speaker 1: for and actually marrying the victim's widow.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that sounds like the perfect setup for
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Speaker 2: a redemption arc, right exactly. You fully expect them to just,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, pack up, move away, and right off
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Speaker 2: into the sunset, leave all that big city trauma behind.
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Speaker 1: Them, which is exactly what they do. They move to
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Speaker 1: this quiet, idyllic small town in the Midwest to start over.
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Speaker 1: But instead of a fade to black happy ending, the
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Speaker 1: script takes this really sharp, brutal turn.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It doesn't stay idyllic for long, not at all.
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Speaker 1: The story just spirals into this claustrophobic locked room mystery
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Speaker 1: inside a basement, and the final scene it's literally a
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Speaker 1: sniper assassination in a suburban driveway.
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Speaker 2: Which I mean, if you saw that in a theater,
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Speaker 2: you'd probably roll your eye.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'd be like, the writer is trying way
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Speaker 1: too hard. The plot is just too tangled.
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Speaker 2: Right. But the irony here is that Hollywood couldn't write
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Speaker 2: something this convoluted if it tried, Because this isn't fiction,
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Speaker 2: No it's not. This is the incredibly complex, entirely true
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Speaker 2: story of Bobby Moore. So welcome to our deep dive
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Speaker 2: into this sprawling, investigative true crime saga.
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Speaker 1: So glad you're joining us for this.
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Speaker 2: Because our mission today is to untangle this bizarre, decades
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Speaker 2: spanning web of well mistaken identity, tragic coincidences, and vigilante justice.
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Speaker 1: It really is a web.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to map out exactly how a
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Speaker 2: single seemingly unrelated street crime in the nineteen seventies set
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Speaker 2: off a deadly chain reaction, one that ultimately claimed multiple lives.
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Speaker 1: You know, for me, the most fascinating thread to pull
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Speaker 1: on here isn't even just the crimes themselves. It's how
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Speaker 1: the very concept of justice sort of bends in morphs.
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, it takes.
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Speaker 1: On entirely different forms depending on who happens to be
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Speaker 1: holding the gun at the time. I mean, we are
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Speaker 1: dealing with formal courtrooms, frantic vigilante mobs, and small town
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Speaker 1: tribunals held entirely in the court of public opinion.
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Speaker 2: Right, and to understand how Bobby Moore's life became entangled
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Speaker 2: in all of that, we really have to isolate the
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Speaker 2: inciting incident. We have to go way back, exactly a
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Speaker 2: full decade before he ever set foot in that quiet
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Speaker 2: Indiana town, back to a case he was assigned to
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Speaker 2: solve in the capitol.
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Speaker 1: So let's pull back the curtain on July nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: four in Washington, DC. The atmosphere in the city at
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Speaker 1: this point is already suffocating. It's the peak of this
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Speaker 1: sweltering summer heat. And the political tension is I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's at a boiling point. Yeah, Watergate is happening, right,
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Speaker 1: The Watergate scandal has essentially paralyzed the whole government, and
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Speaker 1: President Nixon is about a month away from resigning in disgrace.
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Speaker 1: Paranoia is practically a public utility at this point.
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Speaker 2: It's just a powder kick And into the steps Bobby Moore,
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Speaker 2: who is a veteran homicide detective for the Metro.
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Speaker 1: Police Department, a guy who's seen it all.
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Speaker 2: Right, And he gets a dispatch that a prominent judge
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Speaker 2: has been shot. So Moore rushes to the hospital and
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Speaker 2: he finds Judge lewis a Sussler bleeding.
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Speaker 1: Out, and Judge Seisler is not just some random guy.
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Speaker 1: He is a man with a massive profile. He had
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Speaker 1: been a state judge in Indiana, moved to d C
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Speaker 1: to work for a senator on Capitol Hill, and he
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Speaker 1: operated as a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.
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Speaker 2: That's a heavy resume.
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Speaker 1: Right, So if you are a detective walking into that
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Speaker 1: hospital room in nineteen seventy four amid all that political chaos,
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Speaker 1: your mind immediately goes to a targeted political assassination.
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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent, any investigator would start looking for
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Speaker 2: a professional hitman. But before Judge Seisler succumbs to his injuries,
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Speaker 2: he actually manages to give Detective more a few fragmented
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Speaker 2: but really crucial details. What does he saying, Well, he
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Speaker 2: tells me he wasn't ambushed in a dark alley. He
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Speaker 2: was at his father in law's house, a man named
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Speaker 2: Samuel Haynes. The judge explains that when he answered a
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Speaker 2: knock at the front door, this group of people tried
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Speaker 2: to violently force their way inside. Wo Yeah, and when
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Speaker 2: he pushed back, they just opened fire.
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Speaker 1: So Bobby Moore processes the scene he starts interviewing witnesses,
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Speaker 1: and he uncovers a motive that is far more terrifying
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Speaker 1: than a calculated political.
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Speaker 2: Hit, mostly because of how random it is.
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Speaker 1: Exactly Yeah, because of the sheer randomness. The motive had
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Speaker 1: absolutely zero to do with politics or the NRA or
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Speaker 1: the judge's career. It was just a case of blind,
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Speaker 1: accidental revenge, which is.
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Speaker 2: Where we really see the mechanics of street justice completely derail.
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Speaker 2: Because earlier that same night, a young woman was walking
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Speaker 2: home from a neighborhood bar and an unknown assailant forced
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Speaker 2: her into a nearby garage and sexually assaulted her.
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Speaker 1: Just awful. And she manages to get home and tells
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Speaker 1: her mother, Mary Harris. Now, Mary does what you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to do. She reports it to the police. But put
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Speaker 1: yourself in Mary's shoes for a second. You are looking
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Speaker 1: at an overwhelmed, underresourced police force any city that is
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Speaker 1: teetering on the age of chaos. She clearly did not
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Speaker 1: believe the authorities were going to move fast.
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Speaker 2: Enough, so the grief and the rage just take over.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she decides to manufacture her own justice.
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Speaker 2: Right, she mobilizes this vigilante group pulling in her grandson
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Speaker 2: and several of his friends, and the victim manages to
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Speaker 2: identify two garages in the neighborhood that vaguely match the
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Speaker 2: description of the crime scenes.
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Speaker 1: Vaguely matched.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this mob goes to the first house. They
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Speaker 2: kick down the door and quickly realize, ah, they have
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Speaker 2: the wrong guy.
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Speaker 1: But they don't stop there.
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Speaker 2: No, they go back to the bar. They fuel up
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Speaker 2: on alcohol, work themselves into a total frenzy, and decide
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Speaker 2: to march on the second house on their list, which
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Speaker 2: just happens to be Samuel Haynes's.
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Speaker 1: House, the exact house where Judge Seizler is staying for the.
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Speaker 2: Night, exactly. So the group crowds onto the porch. Judge
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Speaker 2: Sisler opens the front door and the mob confronts him.
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Speaker 2: According to the police reports, they scream at him, we're
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Speaker 2: looking for the guy that raped our sister.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: And the judge, who is entirely bewildered by this, tells
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Speaker 2: them they have the wrong house and attempts to slam
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Speaker 2: the door.
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Speaker 1: Shut, and the mob just un leash is hell. They
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Speaker 1: start firing wildly right through the closed door, striking the judge.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about the chaotic physics of this event.
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: What are the astronomical odds that a vigilante mob fueled
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Speaker 1: by alcohol and misdirection randomly selects the front porch of
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Speaker 1: a politically connected judge. It just perfectly illustrates how blind
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Speaker 1: and destructive extra judicial revenge can be.
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Speaker 2: Totally so, Mary Harris and several members of her crew
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Speaker 2: are eventually tracked down, arrested, and convicted. Harris is hit
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Speaker 2: with conspiracy to commit assault, felony murder, and attempted first
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Speaker 2: degree burglary, and.
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Speaker 1: Detective Bobby Moore is the one who secures that conviction.
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Speaker 2: Right so, from an administrative standpoint, the case is closed.
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Speaker 1: Except the man who actually committed the sexual assault, the
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Speaker 1: fantom who triggered this entire, bloody cascade of events, He
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Speaker 1: has never identified.
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Speaker 2: He just vanishes.
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Speaker 1: He vanishes into the city. But the psychological fallout of
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Speaker 1: this case permanently alters Bobby Moore's trajectory, because during the
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Speaker 1: exhaustive investation into the judge's murder, Bobby spends a significant
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Speaker 1: amount of time interviewing the grieving.
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Speaker 2: Widow, Barbara Seessler exactly Barbara.
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Speaker 1: And the detective and the widow form this intense emotional bond.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it is a classic trauma response. Right. They
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Speaker 1: are navigating this horrific, highly publicized tragedy together, and three
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Speaker 1: years after the judge's murder, Bobby and Barbara actually get married,
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Speaker 1: which is wild, and for a while it seems like
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Speaker 1: they are going to make it. By nineteen eighty four,
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Speaker 1: Bobby has put in his time, he retires from the
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Speaker 1: DC Police Force, and the couple decides to leave the
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Speaker 1: East Coast.
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Speaker 2: Entirely time for a fresh start.
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Speaker 1: Right. They move back to Fremont, Indiana, which is this
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Speaker 1: quiet community where Barbara's.
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Speaker 2: Adult children live, and Bobby arrives in Fremont with this
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Speaker 2: larger than life aura. He is quickly appointed as the
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Speaker 2: town marshal to the local deputies. He is this seasoned
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Speaker 2: big city hero who has navigated the darkest corners of
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Speaker 2: human nature and survived it all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives off the impression of this laid back
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Speaker 1: law man who just wants to enjoy a slower pace
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Speaker 1: of life.
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Speaker 2: But if you look at the psychological mechanics of that transition.
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Speaker 1: It's a recipe for disaster.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. You take a homicide detective whose brain has been
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Speaker 2: wired for adrenaline, high stakes investigations and urban chaos for decades,
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Speaker 2: and you drop him into an idyllic rural town where
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Speaker 2: the biggest crisis is like a noise complaint.
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Speaker 1: The friction of that adjustment is massive, and Bobby was
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Speaker 1: masking that friction heavily because behind closed doors, that heroic
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Speaker 1: facade completely crumbled.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the investigative sources reveal a very dark reality here.
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Speaker 2: Bobby was battling severe alcohol use disorder, a condition that
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Speaker 2: just rapidly deteriorated after the move to Indiana.
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Speaker 1: And the marriage takes a huge hit.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it devolves into a highly volatile, toxic environment. The
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Speaker 2: fighting is constant. Barbara even pulls her daughter aside at
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Speaker 2: one point and confides that she strongly suspects Bobby is
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Speaker 2: having an affair, and.
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Speaker 1: By late nineteen eighty seven, their living arrangement is practically
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Speaker 1: a psychological experiment and torture.
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Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.
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Speaker 1: They're technically cohabitating, but they have completely cordoned off the
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Speaker 1: house Barbara claims the main floor. Bobby moves into a
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Speaker 1: self contained finished apartment in the basement right.
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Speaker 2: It has its own kitchen, a separate entest.
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Speaker 1: He've been a separate phone line, and he is actually
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Speaker 1: paying his wife rent to live beneath her.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And in a small town where everyone watches everyone else,
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Speaker 1: they finally file for a deeply bitter contested divorce.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can just visualize the tension. It is
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Speaker 2: a pressure cooker with a welded shut release valve. You
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Speaker 2: have two people who know exactly how to hurt each other,
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Speaker 2: trapped under the same roof, legally adversarial but physically adjacent.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. It was never a question of if this arrangement
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Speaker 1: would end violently, but when. And that explosion happens on
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Speaker 1: the night of February twenty sixth, nineteen eighty eight, just.
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Speaker 2: Three days before a judge's gavel is set to finalize
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Speaker 2: their divorce.
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Speaker 1: Three days at ten four one pm, Bobby Moore dials
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Speaker 1: nine to one one. Police cruisers arrive. Five minutes later.
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Speaker 1: They rushed down the stairs and they find Barbara Seisler
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Speaker 1: shot dead in the basement and Bobby, the veteran homicide detective,
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Speaker 1: is the one holding the gun.
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Speaker 2: And Bobby immediately provides his statement, and he's very precise
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Speaker 2: about it. He tells the responding officers he was in
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Speaker 2: his basement kitchen talking on the phone when Barbara began
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Speaker 2: violently pounding on his door from the hallway. He says
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Speaker 2: he hung up, opened the door and found her in
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Speaker 2: an absolute rage, screaming that he was having an affair
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Speaker 2: with whoever was just on the phone.
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Speaker 1: So he paints a picture of a woman entirely out
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Speaker 1: of control. He claims she swept a stack of papers
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Speaker 1: off his counter and hurled his phone at him. He
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Speaker 1: says he retreated into his bedroom to de escalate, trying
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Speaker 1: to pull the door shut behind him to lock her out.
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Speaker 2: And this is where Bobby's physical description of the struggle
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Speaker 2: becomes really critical.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the physics of it, right.
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Speaker 2: He claims Barbara was pushing against the bedroom door from
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Speaker 2: the hallway with such incredible force that as he pushed
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Speaker 2: back from the inside, the door literally splintered and broke off.
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Speaker 1: Its hinges, which is crazy to picture.
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Speaker 2: Says. She then surged into his bedroom brandishing a cocked
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Speaker 2: pistol in her right hand. He shouted at her to
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Speaker 2: drop it. She kept advancing, so he grabbed his own
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Speaker 2: service weapon off a shelf and fired a single shot
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Speaker 2: in self defense.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to pause here and really scrutinize the
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Speaker 1: physics of Bobby's story, because the mechanics of that struggle
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Speaker 1: are incredibly suspicious to me. How so, think about a
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Speaker 1: solid wood door. If Bobby is bracing against it from
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Speaker 1: the inside and Barbara is shoving from the outside, and
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Speaker 1: the door suddenly breaks off its hinges, the sudden release
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Speaker 1: of all that kinetic energy means both of them should
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Speaker 1: stumble or fall.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great point.
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Speaker 1: How does a woman in her late fifties instantly recover
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Speaker 1: her balance from a collapsing door to charge into a
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Speaker 1: room with a perfectly aimed heavy revolver.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the biomechanics just don't align with his narrative at all.
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Speaker 2: But beyond the physics, Bobby had a massive problem he
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Speaker 2: wasn't aware of when he gave that statement.
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Speaker 1: He didn't know someone was listening to the entire events exactly.
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Speaker 2: Remember those separate phone lines you mentioned the receipt Ever,
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Speaker 2: at the bottom of the basement stairs was left off
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Speaker 2: the hook, and on the other end of that line
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Speaker 2: was Barbara's daughter, Barbara Schaufford, the ear witness, right. Barbara
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Speaker 2: Schufford told investigators she was on the phone with her
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Speaker 2: mother when the altercation began, She heard the argument escalate.
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Speaker 2: She clearly heard her mother demand that Bobby admit to
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Speaker 2: the affair. Wow, she heard Bobby's scream profanities and tell
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Speaker 2: her mother to shut up, And then.
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Speaker 1: She heard the gun shot and the daughter's adamant About
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Speaker 1: three key details. One, she never heard the loud, chaotic
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Speaker 1: splintering of a door breaking off its hinges. Two, she
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Speaker 1: never heard Bobby yell anything resembling put the gun down.
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Speaker 1: And the third three she knew for a fact her
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Speaker 1: mother kept her pistol locked in a closet upstairs. She
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Speaker 1: never heard her mother leave the basement to retrieve that
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Speaker 1: weapon during the fight.
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Speaker 2: So investigators are looking at two entirely incompatible realities here.
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Speaker 2: Bobby claims a violent home invasion requiring lethal self defense,
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Speaker 2: the daughter claims a sudden execution.
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Speaker 1: Total opposite stories, and.
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Speaker 2: When witness testimony conflicts this drastically, investigators have to rely
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Speaker 2: on the physical forensics to break the tie.
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Speaker 1: But the physical evidence in this case doesn't clarify anything.
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Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at the crime scene photos,
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Speaker 1: it feels like a puzzle where the pieces were just
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Speaker 1: forced together. What do you mean, well, Bobby stated, Barbara
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Speaker 1: was well inside his bedroom, advancing on him when he
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Speaker 1: pulled the trigger, and sure enough, investigators found blood spatter
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Speaker 1: from the exit wound on the wall inside his bedroom.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that matches up.
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Speaker 1: However, Barbara's body was not in the bedroom. Wait really no,
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Speaker 1: she was found lying dead in the hallway outside the
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Speaker 1: bedroom with the gun she was allegedly holding, resting perfectly
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Speaker 1: next to her right hand.
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Speaker 2: The geometry is impossible. How does a person get shot
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Speaker 2: inside a room but end up dead out in the
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Speaker 2: hallway with the weapon neatly placed beside them exactly?
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Speaker 1: And a veteran detective like Bobby Moore would know that
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Speaker 1: blood spatter tells the true story of positioning.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the police actually tried to hypothesize a scenario where
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Speaker 2: the impact of the bullet caused her to stagger backward
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Speaker 2: out the doorway, hit the hallway wall, and collapse.
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Speaker 1: That hold up not at all.
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Speaker 2: The gun destroyed that theory because if she took a
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Speaker 2: fatal shot to the chest, staggered multiple steps and fell
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Speaker 2: hard into the hallway, her muscles would have lost tension.
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Speaker 1: She would have dropped it.
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Speaker 2: She would have dropped that heavy revolver mid stagger it
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Speaker 2: should not have landed in a picture perfect grip position
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Speaker 2: right next to her.
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Speaker 1: Hand, which brings us right to the staging theory. If
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Speaker 1: you are a seasoned DC homicide detective in the nineteen eighties,
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Speaker 1: you know exactly how crime scenes are processed.
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Speaker 2: You know every trick in the book.
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Speaker 1: You know how to position a body. You know you
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Speaker 1: need a weapon on the victim to claim self defense,
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Speaker 1: and you know to wipe your own prints off that
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Speaker 1: secondary weapon before placing it near her hand.
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Speaker 2: And that leads to the most baffling forensic anomaly in
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Speaker 2: this entire investigation.
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Speaker 1: The fingerprints right because the daughter immediately told police that
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Speaker 1: Barbara had recently undergone surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome in
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Speaker 1: her right hand. She argued her mother physically lacked the
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Speaker 1: grip strength to hold, let alone aim at that heavy revolver, But.
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Speaker 2: The medical examiners evaluated her records and determined that well,
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Speaker 2: despite the carpal tunnel, she likely could have held a
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Speaker 2: gun of that weight if she was fueled by adrenaline.
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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, but the real.
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Speaker 2: Shock came from the crime lab when technicians dusted the revolver.
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Speaker 2: Barbara was supposedly holding they found absolutely nothing, nothing at all.
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Speaker 2: It was wiped completely clean. There was not a single fingerprint,
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Speaker 2: partial print, or even a smudge belonging to Barbara on
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Speaker 2: that weapon.
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Speaker 1: My immediate reaction to that, and honestly, probably the reaction
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Speaker 1: of anyone listening, is that Bobby wiped the gun clean
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Speaker 1: before dropping it next to her hand. He staged it,
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Speaker 1: but he made a mistake and wiped her prints off too.
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Speaker 2: It is the most logical conclusion until Darbara's doctors presented
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Speaker 2: this stunning piece of medical evidence. Barbara actually suffered from
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Speaker 2: an incredibly rare condition in her right hand called reflex
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Speaker 2: sympathetic dystrophy or as D.
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Speaker 1: Wait, we need to break down the biology of this
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Speaker 1: because it changes the entire legal landscape of the case.
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Speaker 2: It really does.
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Speaker 1: RST is a severe nerve disorder. The sympathetic nervous system
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Speaker 1: essentially misfires. It causes the blood vessels to constrict and
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Speaker 1: the skin to atrophy. But critically, it shuts down the
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Speaker 1: sweat glands entirely in the affected limb.
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Speaker 2: And since fingerprints are nothing more than biological ink, you know,
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Speaker 2: a mixture of sweat oils and amino acids left on
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Speaker 2: a surface she couldn't make them exactly because of her RSD.
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Speaker 2: Barbara's right hand was like dry parchment. She lacked the
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Speaker 2: biological moisture required to leave a print. She physically could
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Speaker 2: not leave fingerprints on that gun eeve as she gripped
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Speaker 2: it as hard as she could.
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Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the sheer statistical absurdity of this
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Speaker 1: for a second's mind blowing. You have a locked room
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Speaker 1: shootout with massive signs of physical staging. You have a
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Speaker 1: missing fingerprint that points directly to a cover up by
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Speaker 1: a veteran detective, and yet a one in a million
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Speaker 1: medical anomaly perfectly explains away that lack of eviace. Right,
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Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, did Bobby Moore just get
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Speaker 1: the luckiest break in forensic history, or did a master
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Speaker 1: investigator know about his wife's medical condition and use it
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Speaker 1: to deliberately exploit the boundaries of reasonable doubt?
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Speaker 2: And that is the exact dilemma of the special prosecutor
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Speaker 2: faced when the legal system evaluates a self defense claim.
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Speaker 2: The burden of proof is incredibly high to disprove it.
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Speaker 1: Because you have to prove he wasn't acting in self defense, right, And.
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Speaker 2: The prosecutor conducted acoustic sound tests in the basement and
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Speaker 2: concluded it was theoretically possible the daughter listening on an
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Speaker 2: old nineteen eighties landline might not have heard a door
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Speaker 2: splinter or a gun being retrieved.
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Speaker 1: Because if there's even a sliver of alternative explanation, if
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Speaker 1: the medical anomaly explains the fingerprints and the phone line
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Speaker 1: explains the missing audio, you have reasonable doubt. The law
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Speaker 1: demands certainty, and.
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Speaker 2: They just didn't have it. So, lacking the definitive, undeniable
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Speaker 2: proof required to dismantle his self defense claim in front
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Speaker 2: of a jury, the prosecutor was legally paralyzed. Six weeks
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Speaker 2: after his wife was shot dead in their basement, all
18:04
Speaker 2: charges against Bobby Moore were dropped. Wow, he literally just
18:08
Speaker 2: walked out of jail.
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Speaker 1: He is legally innocent. But you know, in a tight
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Speaker 1: knit small town, the court of public opinion operates on
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Speaker 1: completely different standard of evidence. The legal system operates on
18:19
Speaker 1: technicalities and thresholds of proof. The public operates on intuition,
18:23
Speaker 1: grief and retribution.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bobby's release acts as this explosive catalyst for
18:28
Speaker 2: the town of Fremont. The town essentially revolted. I can
18:31
Speaker 2: imagine just four days after his release, Bogging had the
18:34
Speaker 2: audacity to formally apply to get his job back as
18:36
Speaker 2: town marshal, and the town board incredibly voted two to
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Speaker 2: one to reinstate.
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Speaker 1: Him, which is insane. Local journalists described the atmosphere in
18:45
Speaker 1: Fremont as downright medieval. The public didn't just protest, they mobilized.
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Speaker 1: Someone actually constructed pipe bombs and planted them at the
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Speaker 1: homes of the two board members who voted for his reinstatement.
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Speaker 1: Pipe bombs, yeah, and the bombs detonated.
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Speaker 2: It was a clear violent warning. Senior county officials recognized
19:04
Speaker 2: the town with spiraling into chaots and practically begged Bobby
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Speaker 2: to leave Fremont for his own safety.
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Speaker 1: But he wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: No, he flatly refused to be intimidated. He sold the
19:13
Speaker 2: shared house where Barbara died, moved to a different property
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Speaker 2: closer to the center of town, and stubbornly went right
19:19
Speaker 2: back to patrolling the streets, which.
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Speaker 1: Perfectly sets the stage for the final brutal act of
19:23
Speaker 1: this saga. The public felt the courts had failed them,
19:26
Speaker 1: so they engineered their own verdict. Let's look at July
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, nineteen eighty eight.
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Speaker 2: The timing alone here is chilling because it was exactly
19:34
Speaker 2: five months down to the very hour after Barbara was
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Speaker 2: killed in that basement.
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Speaker 1: Bobby finishes his shift around ten thirty pm. He drives
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Speaker 1: his cruiser into the driveway of his new home. He
19:46
Speaker 1: cuts the engine, steps out into the humid summer night,
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Speaker 1: and begins walking up the wooden stairs to his side porch.
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Speaker 2: But directly across the street, hidden in the shadows of
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Speaker 2: a vacant lot, a sniper has been waiting.
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Speaker 1: Just wait for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The shooter is armed with a high powered rifle,
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Speaker 2: and as body climbs the stairs, the sniper fires. The
20:07
Speaker 2: first bullet misses, echoing through the quiet neighborhood. Bobby turns,
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Speaker 2: but the sniper has already racked a second round, and.
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Speaker 1: The ballistics of the second shot show it was fired
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Speaker 1: by someone who really knew what they were doing. The
20:19
Speaker 1: bullet tears through Bobby's right shoulder, angles perfectly through his
20:22
Speaker 1: chest cavity, and shreds his aorta in both lungs. Its
20:25
Speaker 1: massive catastrophic trauma.
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Speaker 2: He didn't stand a champ.
20:28
Speaker 1: No. Bobby Moore collapses on his stairs and bleeds to
20:31
Speaker 1: death within minutes.
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Speaker 2: The controversial town marshal is executed in his own driveway.
20:35
Speaker 2: State police fled the town and immediately begin hunting for suspects,
20:39
Speaker 2: and their primary target is the most obvious one, Barbara
20:42
Speaker 2: Son Samuel Sissler.
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Speaker 1: Because Samuel fits the profile perfectly. He had recently graduated
20:48
Speaker 1: from the Indiana State Police Academy, which means he had
20:51
Speaker 1: formal firearms training, but he had been dismissed from his
20:54
Speaker 1: probationary trooper position just a few months prior, right around
20:58
Speaker 1: the exact time his mother was killed.
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Speaker 2: And witnesses placed Samuel in Fremont on the night of
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Speaker 2: the sniper attack, but he seemingly vanished in the chaotic
21:07
Speaker 2: days that followed. When investigators finally located him, he invoked
21:11
Speaker 2: his rights and refused to speak with them. Classic move,
21:14
Speaker 2: and the rumor mill in Fremont was running at maximum capacity.
21:18
Speaker 2: A local reporter even published claims that Samuel had visited
21:22
Speaker 2: a gun shop just a couple of towns over mere
21:24
Speaker 2: days before the assassination and purchased a long rifle along
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Speaker 2: with the exact caliber of ammunition used to kill Bobby.
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Speaker 1: I mean the motive was screaming at them while Samuel's
21:35
Speaker 1: official Police Academy dismissal cited an unsatisfactory probationary period. The
21:40
Speaker 1: open secret was that he had been repeatedly making comments
21:43
Speaker 1: to fellow cadets about seeking revenge for his mother's murder.
21:46
Speaker 1: But you know, knowing someone is guilty and proving it
21:50
Speaker 1: are two very different things, which is something Bobby Moore
21:53
Speaker 1: himself relied on just months earlier. Exactly, police sweep the
21:57
Speaker 1: vacant lot, they scour the town, but they never find
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Speaker 1: the sniper rifle. They never find a single piece of
22:03
Speaker 1: physical evidence linking Samuel or anyone else for that matter,
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Speaker 1: to that sniper nest.
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Speaker 2: The case goes completely cold, and there is an incredible
22:12
Speaker 2: piece of irony woven into the modern investigation here. The
22:15
Speaker 2: man currently leading the cold case unit for the Indiana
22:18
Speaker 2: State Police, Captain Kevin Smith, actually attended the police academy
22:22
Speaker 2: with Samuel Seisler.
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Speaker 1: No way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were classmates, they lived in adjacent dorm rooms.
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Speaker 1: I can only imagine how surreal that must be for
22:29
Speaker 1: Captain Smith, hunting a ghost you used to eat breakfast with.
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Speaker 1: He has stated publicly that while Samuel is the most
22:36
Speaker 1: obvious suspect, given the incredibly specific five month anniversary of
22:40
Speaker 1: the murder. Bobby Moore was a man who generated enemies
22:44
Speaker 1: everywhere he.
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Speaker 2: Went, which is very true.
22:46
Speaker 1: Half the town wanted him dead. The sniper could have
22:48
Speaker 1: been anyone with a rifle and a grudge.
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Speaker 2: The town of Fremont essentially just closed ranks. It really
22:54
Speaker 2: forces you to evaluate the psychology of the community. Did
22:58
Speaker 2: the people of Fremont view the sniper as a cold
23:00
Speaker 2: blooded murderer or did they view the sniper as the true,
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Speaker 2: unrecognized marshal.
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Speaker 1: Of the town, someone stepping up to deliver the ultimate
23:08
Speaker 1: penalty when the formalized legal system was paralyzed by medical technicality.
23:13
Speaker 2: Right, if you zoom out and look at the architecture
23:15
Speaker 2: of Bobby Moore's entire life, the tragic symmetry is just staggering.
23:19
Speaker 2: His career was cemented by navigating a chaotic, misdirected revenge
23:24
Speaker 2: killing in Washington.
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Speaker 1: D c. A case that introduced him to his wife.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and his life was extinguished by a hyper calculated,
23:31
Speaker 2: perfectly targeted act of revenge in a small Indiana town.
23:34
Speaker 1: The legal system requires a sterile clinical analysis of facts
23:38
Speaker 1: to avoid putting innocent people in prison, but human grief, anger,
23:43
Speaker 1: and the primal need for retribution, do not respect legal thresholds.
23:47
Speaker 1: Bobby Moore weaponized the concept of reasonable doubt to save
23:50
Speaker 1: himself from a courtroom, but he couldn't save himself from
23:52
Speaker 1: the town.
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Speaker 2: No, he couldn't, and it leaves behind a legacy of
23:55
Speaker 2: unanswered questions that still haunt the police files today.
23:58
Speaker 1: Doing a deep dive like this strips away the comforting
24:01
Speaker 1: illusion that justice is this clean binary system. We want
24:05
Speaker 1: flawless victims and obvious villains. But the reality of Bobby
24:09
Speaker 1: Moore's life exists in a deeply uncomfortable, murky gray area.
24:14
Speaker 1: The overlap between legal innocence and public guilt is a
24:17
Speaker 1: very dangerous place to live.
24:19
Speaker 2: It really is.
24:19
Speaker 1: But I want to leave you with one final haunting
24:22
Speaker 1: realization to process. We've spent this entire deep dive analyzing
24:27
Speaker 1: the psychology of Bobby, Barbara and the Sniper. But what
24:31
Speaker 1: if the true architect of this multi decade tragedy is
24:35
Speaker 1: the one person whose name we don't even know.
24:37
Speaker 2: The assailant exactly.
24:38
Speaker 1: Think all the way back to the sweltering heat of
24:40
Speaker 1: DC in nineteen seventy four, the unnamed man who pulled
24:43
Speaker 1: Mary Harris's daughter into that garage and sexually assaulted her.
24:47
Speaker 1: Was never identified. He was never arrested, but imagine if
24:50
Speaker 1: he had been.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything would be different.
24:52
Speaker 1: If the police had caught him that night. Mary Harris
24:54
Speaker 1: would never have felt the need to form a vigilante mob.
24:57
Speaker 1: That mob would never have marched onto the wrong port.
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Speaker 1: Judge Seisler would never have opened his front door into
25:03
Speaker 1: a hale of bullets. Bobby Moore would never have been
25:06
Speaker 1: assigned the homicide. He would never have met the grieving widow,
25:10
Speaker 1: and neither he nor Barbara would have bled to death
25:12
Speaker 1: in a quiet Midwestern town fourteen years later. When you
25:16
Speaker 1: trace the bloodlines of this story all the way back
25:18
Speaker 1: to their roots, the entire sprawling, deadly web was spun
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Speaker 1: around a phantom