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The Kenny Report | 3 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Love from the Skying You Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: I'm Daniki di Giorgio filling in tonight for Chris.
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Speaker 3: Coming up.
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Speaker 2: China shows off its military mite while Beijing's pathetic puppet
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews receives a warm welcome from Shijing Ping just
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Speaker 2: in a Nampa Jimpa Price defends the Australian flag and
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Speaker 2: gives it to the Greens.
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Speaker 3: It's revolting.
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Speaker 4: You don't love this country the way I do, certainly
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Speaker 4: not like most Australians do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good honor.
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Speaker 2: I'll speak with Senator Price shortly, plus Labor rolls out
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Speaker 2: the welcome Matt for isis bride set to return just
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Speaker 2: in time for Christmas. I'll get reaction from Pauline Hansen,
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Speaker 2: but first tonight. Former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has always
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Speaker 2: been Beijing's pathetic puppet. From the Belt and Road Initiative
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Speaker 2: deal he did with China, which was designed to expand
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Speaker 2: Beijing's power across the world, to his multiple secretive visits
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Speaker 2: their world Leader of the State where he met with Chinese.
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Speaker 3: Officials and we never really found out why.
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Speaker 2: And you recall this infamous photo in Tianaman Square, the
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Speaker 2: same place where China murdered hundreds of students in the
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Speaker 2: eighties during the Massacre.
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Speaker 3: But even out of office.
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews remains China's marionette, the best Australian friend Beijing
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Speaker 2: has ever had. He even rivals Anthony Arbernizi, and that
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Speaker 2: is saying something. But today the true extent of his
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Speaker 2: love affair with the communist dictatorship was laid out for
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Speaker 2: the world to see, and it is very concerning. Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews was a guest of honor at China's military parade
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Speaker 2: in Beijing as part of its Victory Day celebrations.
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Speaker 3: But this photo should worry all of us.
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews joined world leaders and dictators on the red
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Speaker 2: carpet ahead of the event. He is posing for a
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Speaker 2: class photo of sorts with the axis of evil, Communist
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Speaker 2: leader Shijing Ping, Russian President Vladimir Putin, and North Korean
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Speaker 2: dictator Kim Jong un. And there's Dan Andrews a couple
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Speaker 2: of spots behind Kim John Orton. For goodness sake, I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is truly inconceivable and a complete and utter embarrassment
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Speaker 2: to Australia. This is exactly the type of propaganda China wants,
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Speaker 2: and not to mention a complete slap in the face
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Speaker 2: to Victorians who are still struggling years on from Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews government's decisions like the record COVID lockdown and suppression
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Speaker 2: of freedoms, and now the former premier is smiling with
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Speaker 2: leaders of regimes who suppress freedoms on a daily basis.
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews, hang your head in shame. But that's just
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Speaker 2: the issue, isn't it. He's never had any shame, not
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Speaker 2: on anything, even China.
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Speaker 3: The trip was not about me, and again with respect,
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Speaker 3: it was not about you.
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Speaker 5: It was about the future of Victoria.
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Speaker 2: It was never about Victoria. It was always about Dan Andrews.
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Speaker 2: Now on the world stage today China showed off its
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Speaker 2: military might. Now this was a deliberate tactic by China
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Speaker 2: to show off its latest weapons to the world, all
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Speaker 2: of its arsenal in a show of might against the
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Speaker 2: West that includes US and our.
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Speaker 3: Number one ally, the United States.
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Speaker 2: China unveiled its robot Wolves, a contingent of four legged
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Speaker 2: robots capable of launching precision precision strikes against targets, along
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Speaker 2: with laser weapons, nuclear ballistic missiles and giant underwater drones,
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Speaker 2: all to design to destroy the West military arsenal.
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Speaker 3: And of course this useless fool.
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews was there to lap it up in the audience,
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Speaker 2: probably smiling, clapping and waving along like a trained seal.
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Speaker 3: And boy, he made quite an entrance. Say a look
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Speaker 3: and a.
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Speaker 4: Decade ago on September third, it was Arsol here where
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Speaker 4: Chinese President She's in ping and his wife Madame Poli
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Speaker 4: Yuan welcomed.
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Speaker 2: Yep, that was Dan Andrews again, happily shaking hands with
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Speaker 2: the leader of a communist regime which has sent spy
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Speaker 2: ships our way, conducted live fire drills off our coast,
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Speaker 2: imposed punative tariffs, and has bullied US militarily and economically.
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Speaker 2: Yet the Prime Minister did not sing fust by it.
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Speaker 6: What do you think of Dan Andrews joining a line
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Speaker 6: of people greeting President She at this parade, which includes
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Speaker 6: Vladimir Putin and Kim John.
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Speaker 7: Well do you like that Dan Andrews in both caravan.
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Speaker 8: Is not meeting them?
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Speaker 2: Really, he's not meeting them? Sor right solved it all,
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Speaker 2: doesn't it? I mean, what is this prime minister so scared?
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Speaker 2: Of It was only in June Anthony Arberdezi and Dan
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Speaker 2: Andrews had lunched together in Melbourne. It's not like the
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Speaker 2: pair aren't in touch. So why did the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: not urge him not to go? The Coalition pushed the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister on it in Question Time.
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Speaker 6: Well, the Prime Minister condemn his close personal friend Daniel
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Speaker 6: Andrews attending the Chinese Communist Party military parade alongside the
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Speaker 6: presidents of Russia, North Korea and Iran.
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Speaker 8: I'm responsible for the Australian government. The Australian government did
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Speaker 8: have a representative there, and the Australian government did have
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Speaker 8: a representative ten years ago.
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Speaker 2: Well, the China of ten years ago was not the
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Speaker 2: China of today. The China of today has hurt Australia
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Speaker 2: in more ways than one. But once again, the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister is just so scared of upsetting Shijing Ping.
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Speaker 3: I mean remember his own trip in July.
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Speaker 9: Did the President express any objection to your plans about
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Speaker 9: bringing the Port of Darwin back into Australian hands or
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Speaker 9: any potential response that China might take to that.
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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
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Speaker 8: There was no breach of international law by China. But
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Speaker 8: that we were concerned about the notice and the way
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Speaker 8: that it happened, including the Li fire exercises.
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Speaker 2: Nothing to see here as always, And compare that with
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Speaker 2: former Queensland Labor Premier Anastasia Paliche today when asked about
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrew's visit. There's a difference between trade and going
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Speaker 2: along to a military parade.
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Speaker 3: So if it was me, it'd be a definitely no.
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Speaker 3: I would not be attending that. It just is the
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Speaker 3: next level. It's a bridge too far. Yeah, that it is.
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Speaker 2: It's quite frankly a disgrace and let's not forget well
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Speaker 2: Dan Andrews went on his many trips over there as Premier.
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Speaker 2: My colleague here at Sky News, Chung Li was rotting
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Speaker 2: in a Chinese prison, forcing her family to beg for
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Speaker 2: Andrews to even raise her case.
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Speaker 3: He didn't, he.
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Speaker 2: Said at the time it was simply a matter for
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Speaker 2: the federal government. A Melbourne woman was in jail and
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Speaker 2: the then premier didn't even think to raise it. Now,
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Speaker 2: former Foreign Minister Bob Carr is also in China and
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Speaker 2: had said he would attend the event, but changed his
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Speaker 2: mind at the eleventh hour, posting on social media the
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Speaker 2: sounds of marching bands from over the walls as I'm
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Speaker 2: enjoying tea with Southeast Asian and Beijing based European diplomats
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Speaker 2: exploring impact of Trump policy erraticism on the region and
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Speaker 2: ideas on Australia's role.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a far cry from his.
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Speaker 2: Op ed in nine newspapers the day before, where he
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Speaker 2: boasted about attending the parades, saying, with a father who
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Speaker 2: had served in the Pacific and a mother who was
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Speaker 2: in the army, along with my aunt and two uncles,
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Speaker 2: I learned as a kid about the Chinese theater of war.
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Speaker 3: It's why I accepted an invitation from the China and
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Speaker 3: He's consul general to attend.
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Speaker 2: The eightieth celebration of their victory. But that was not
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Speaker 2: why China put on its parade today. It did so
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Speaker 2: to intimidate its allies, and perhaps Albo's office put in
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Speaker 2: a last minute call to Bob Carr begging him not
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Speaker 2: to go.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but it certainly.
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Speaker 2: Is a stunning backflip, and it makes it even worse
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Speaker 2: for Dan Andrews still taking cues from Beijing, a dictatorship
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Speaker 2: that has presided over human rights abuses and continues to
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Speaker 2: intimidate the West, including US. This is fantastic propaganda for
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Speaker 2: China and spurs them on to keep doing what they're doing.
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Speaker 3: Bullying the world.
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Speaker 2: Even the Australian ambassador refused the invite to the parade,
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Speaker 2: Dictator Dan is still living up to his namesake. A
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Speaker 2: leopard never changes its spots. What could Labor be about
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Speaker 2: to give us the ultimate Christmas gift? Exactly what we've
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Speaker 2: all been asking for, the return of Isis brides from
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Speaker 2: the Middle Eastern Caliphate.
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Speaker 3: You heard that correct.
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Speaker 2: The Australian newspaper is reporting Australian Isis brides stranded in
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Speaker 2: northern Syria are set to be returned home before Christmas.
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Speaker 2: The deal is in the final stages of being greenlit,
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Speaker 2: and there are a dozen women and children and some
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Speaker 2: young men expected to be evacuated out of camps and
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Speaker 2: brought home to New South Wales and Victoria. Well, there's
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Speaker 2: just nothing like the festive gift of giving, is there.
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 2: Look, we talk a lot about the types of people
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Speaker 2: Labour brings into this country under its Big Australia policy.
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Speaker 2: Some who hate us, hate our values and do not
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Speaker 2: want to assimilate. You just have to look at what's
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Speaker 2: happened here since October seven. We've seen a complete decay
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Speaker 2: in our values. Terror flags are brazenly flown, Iran is
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Speaker 2: responsible for terror attacks on our soil, and hate preachers
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Speaker 2: here are openly celebrating the slaughter of Jews. The common
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Speaker 2: denominator is bringing people in from countries whose values are
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Speaker 2: incompatible with Western de democracies. There were three thousand gardens
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Speaker 2: brought here with little to no security checks. And now,
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Speaker 2: according to these reports, the welcome matt is being rolled
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Speaker 2: out for brides of ISIS, the third cohort since twenty nineteen. Now,
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Speaker 2: these are people who betrayed this country, left for a
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Speaker 2: Jahadi romantic getaway, and now I've had regrets and want
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Speaker 2: back in. And these are the people who walk among us.
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Speaker 6: The first cohort of women and children, all Australian citizens,
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Speaker 6: have returned to Australia and are living among the community.
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Speaker 2: And don't forget, this is the very same terror group
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Speaker 2: responsible for beheadings, burning people alive and mass murder. Now
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Speaker 2: you'd think something as significant as repatriating Australian ISIS brides
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Speaker 2: would warrant a proper announcement given the security risks for
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Speaker 2: this country, let alone the communities in which they would.
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Speaker 3: Be settled in.
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Speaker 2: Instead, we were told of this plan in the Australian newspaper.
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Speaker 2: It's understood there are thirty four people consisting of fourteen
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Speaker 2: adults and twenty children, the youngest of whom are just
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Speaker 2: five years old, and the Australian government is aware of
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Speaker 2: possible persons of interest.
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Speaker 3: In the cohort or gie. Isn't that terrific?
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Speaker 2: I mean, labor was desperately, desperately trying to keep it
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Speaker 2: under wraps today.
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Speaker 9: Is there a secret plan afoot to bring so called
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Speaker 9: Isis Bride's back home to Australia? Julian I saw that
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Speaker 9: report on the front of the Australian and look, I
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Speaker 9: just need to make a couple of points. Obviously, I'm
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Speaker 9: a minister in the Home Affairs portfolio and if there
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Speaker 9: was a secret plan, I think you would understand that
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Speaker 9: I can't come on the television and talk about the
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Speaker 9: secret plans i'd.
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Speaker 3: Make because it sure.
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Speaker 9: The second point i'd make and let's not run the
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Speaker 9: refuses to deny story. Is that second point I'd make,
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Speaker 9: which is.
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Speaker 3: Where this can go?
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Speaker 10: Peat.
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Speaker 3: I know where this can go? Paid well, why so secretive,
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Speaker 3: Where's a transparency?
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Speaker 2: A spokesperson for Immigration Minister Tony Burke said the federal
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Speaker 2: government was not directly involved in the mission to bring
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Speaker 2: the Cohort home, yet senior GUP officials are assisting in
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Speaker 2: the operation. So I called nonsense on this claim by
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Speaker 2: the Minister, as if he and the Prime Minister would
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Speaker 2: be unaware of a security risk. And how can anyone
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Speaker 2: get out of a camp in Syria to then get
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Speaker 2: on a flight to Australia without a passport without government assistants.
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Speaker 3: The Coalition push labor on this in question time.
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Speaker 5: My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to
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Speaker 5: reports in the Australian that government officials are helping to
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Speaker 5: bring ISIS terrorist brides to Australia. Prime Minister, these are
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Speaker 5: not ordinary citizens. They chose to align with a barbaric
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Speaker 5: death cult that glorified mass murder, sold women and girls
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Speaker 5: into slavery, and cheered the slaughter of innocence. What actions
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Speaker 5: has your government taken to guarantee the safety of Australians
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Speaker 5: if these people return.
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Speaker 11: Go to the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 8: Those reports are not accurate.
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Speaker 12: He is the Prime Minister aware of any info that
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Speaker 12: suggests ISIS brides are seeking to return turns to Australia
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Speaker 12: and is your government making preparations to receive them?
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Speaker 8: Call to the Prime Minister are a fur tom my
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Speaker 8: previous answer?
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Speaker 2: So the PM says the reports are not accurate. The
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister has not denied the claims, only to
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Speaker 2: say Labor is not directly involved. So again why the secrecy,
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Speaker 2: And the question remains, why are we responsible for the
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Speaker 2: ISIS brides? We need to know who these people are,
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Speaker 2: how many are said to be coming, where they'll live,
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Speaker 2: what crimes they've committed, and how Labor will keep us safe.
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Speaker 2: And I couldn't care less if these people have had
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Speaker 2: to come to Jesus moment and now feel bad about
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Speaker 2: what they did.
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Speaker 3: Tough luck they left Australia.
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Speaker 2: They chose to lead this democratic, freedom loving country in
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Speaker 2: the name of Isis, of terror, of everything that goes
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Speaker 2: against our Australian values. You sided with the enemy. You
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Speaker 2: are not Australian. I'm sure we can feel sorry for
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Speaker 2: the children, but they too.
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Speaker 3: Are a risk.
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Speaker 2: They've been raised to hate the West, so we can't
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Speaker 2: take this risk.
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Speaker 3: Our security is the issue.
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Speaker 2: The cost of repatriating these people is the issue.
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Speaker 3: I mean, how much is this going to cost us?
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Speaker 2: And these people will inevitably get exactly what they want,
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Speaker 2: access to health and welfare services, all at the expense
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Speaker 2: of the taxpayer.
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Speaker 12: When these people put in their lot to go and
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Speaker 12: fight with ISIS or support ISIS at the height of
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Speaker 12: the caliphate, most Australians would have thought goodbye and good riddance.
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Speaker 12: So we need to be very careful about who we
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Speaker 12: bring back to this country because they still may be radicalized,
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Speaker 12: they still may be completely wedded to the ideology of ISIS,
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Speaker 12: And not to mention Labour's hypocrisy, Labour brings in ISIS
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Speaker 12: brides but denied the visa of former Israeli minister Alet Shaked, denied.
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Speaker 2: The visa of Israeli politician Simchar Rothman, and bands Israeli
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Speaker 2: American speaker hellel Fold. At the same time, Labor and
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Speaker 2: p ed Husick is asking whether Australians serving in Israel
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Speaker 2: against Tamas are foreign fighters. Now, these women are not
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Speaker 2: innocent victims of a caliphate. They knew exactly what they
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Speaker 2: were doing when they lef Tier and once again.
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Speaker 3: Labor puts our values at risk.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in One Nation leader set it to Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hanson now said, it's a good.
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Speaker 3: To see you. Let's start with these Isis brides.
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Speaker 2: Do you buy this argument that labor's not involved in
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Speaker 2: the mission to bring them home?
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Speaker 1: Not one bit, Daneka? What an absolutely fast that is?
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Speaker 1: He couldn't even answer the question. No, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: say my comments. Don't know anything about it. If you
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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with you'd actually have more to say.
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Speaker 1: He shut it down. He doesn't want to answer any
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Speaker 1: more questions. I don't believe it, Daneka. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: I don't want them here. I've got no time for
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Speaker 1: them whatsoever. I don't want their offspring and the youngest
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Speaker 1: one at five years of age. Then I asked the question,
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Speaker 1: they are not an Australian citizen. They were born overseas
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Speaker 1: because they started bringing them back in twenty nineteen. I
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Speaker 1: think this is a third lot they're bringing in. So
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Speaker 1: at five years of age, I don't believe that we
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Speaker 1: should be actually taking them. They're not Australian citizens if
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Speaker 1: they're born overseas, and these people, they're going to be
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Speaker 1: on the public, taxpayer funded purse for the rest of
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Speaker 1: their lives. These women completely wear the burker or full burker.
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Speaker 1: They won't get employment if they don't have the husbands
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Speaker 1: to provide for them, so the taxpayer will have to
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Speaker 1: They are bringing their hate. These people are martyrs who
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Speaker 1: will die for the course and their beliefs. I've been
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Speaker 1: speaking strongly about this for years and years and years,
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Speaker 1: and especially my maiden speech when I got back into
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Speaker 1: the Parliament twenty sixteen. It concerns me greatly. And if
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Speaker 1: you look at what's happened in England Birmingham, thirty percent
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Speaker 1: of Muslims there and they're taken over the councils, you've
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Speaker 1: got you know, sharia law courts. They're losing their identity,
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Speaker 1: their culture in England, and the same damn thing is
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Speaker 1: going to happen here, well exactly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't just go over there in the
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Speaker 2: name of Isis on some sort of romantic jahati, getaway
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Speaker 2: and then decide that you want to come back. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: it's not how it works. It doesn't fit with our
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Speaker 2: value system. I completely agree. Now, look, I'll speak with
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Speaker 2: Senator just sent a Nampa jimper Price shortly about National
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Speaker 2: Flag Day. She was ordered to remove the Ossie flag,
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Speaker 2: which was draped over her shoulders and you were two today.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a.
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Speaker 10: Look, Senator Hanson, I remind you of the ruling the
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Speaker 10: Deputy President arrived at today which I have uphold, which
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Speaker 10: is no flags to be worn in the chamber until
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Speaker 10: the matter has been resolved by the proceigiuous Committee. So
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Speaker 10: it asked you to take the flag off.
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Speaker 2: Senator, Why is the Senate so afraid of the Ossie flag?
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Speaker 3: Afraid of this?
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Speaker 1: That's what they're afraid of, Janika, And you know what.
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Speaker 1: It flies on top of the building, it flies in
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Speaker 1: the chamber. And it was the Greens that raised the
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Speaker 1: issue about saying you shouldn't be wearing the flag, and
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Speaker 1: they said it's a prop.
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Speaker 3: It's not a prop.
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Speaker 1: They wear the kafir every time in the Parliament. No
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Speaker 1: one says anything about it. The President says nothing about it.
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Speaker 1: And it discussed me that this was raised by the
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Speaker 1: Deputy President, who is actually liberal, and he raised it
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Speaker 1: and made the decision not to wear it.
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Speaker 3: It is absolutely appalling.
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Speaker 1: And then the Green Senator McKim gets up and says, well,
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Speaker 1: if you allow the Australian flag to be worn in
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Speaker 1: this chamber, then I'm going to wear the Palestinian flag.
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Speaker 3: This is how you know, This is what our country
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Speaker 3: has come to.
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Speaker 1: I am so angry about this, and I'm so upset
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Speaker 1: by this. You know, the people that are on the
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Speaker 1: weekend that walked with pride carrying the Australian flag. We
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Speaker 1: are elected members of Parliament for the Australian people under
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Speaker 1: Australian flag that people have fought and died for, and
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Speaker 1: we are told we can't display it in our parliament
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Speaker 1: on the one special day, which is our Australian Flag Day.
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Speaker 3: And that's how gutless these people are.
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Speaker 1: I put it to the vote that it should be
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Speaker 1: able to be worn in Parliament just before I come
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Speaker 1: up here, and guess what. Twenty two people supported it,
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Speaker 1: all of Labor, all of the Greens and Senator for
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Speaker 1: Fatima Payman voted against it being able to be worn
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Speaker 1: on Flora Parliament, Jackielambic Pocock and Tammy Tyrrell. I didn't
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Speaker 1: see them at all on the Flora Parliament to vote
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Speaker 1: on such an important issue. It turns my stomach and
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Speaker 1: makes me so mad. And I warn people out there,
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Speaker 1: you keep voting for these bastards that actually don't have
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Speaker 1: pride in our country in the Australian flag.
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Speaker 3: Then be prepared to get what we're going to get.
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Speaker 1: And we've seen it now with the division that is happening,
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Speaker 1: the hatred do we see on the streets, the escalating crime,
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Speaker 1: and that's only going to escalate even further unless we
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Speaker 1: take a stand on this and make sure you know
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Speaker 1: who you vote for next time, and certainly never vote
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Speaker 1: for the Greens, the hateful UnAustralian people.
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Speaker 3: They are well. Look good on you.
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Speaker 2: Look, I can hear the passion in your voice and
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Speaker 2: you are absolutely spot on. And it baffles me, Senator,
19:50
Speaker 2: that we are. You know, we seem to think that
19:52
Speaker 2: the Australian flag is racist. Now it is not racist
19:55
Speaker 2: to waive the Australian flags.
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Speaker 3: So good on you for taking a stand.
19:58
Speaker 2: And it brings me to my next question, because I
20:00
Speaker 2: want to ask you about migration. Labour's confirmed it's got
20:03
Speaker 2: no intention to lower the rate of migration. The number
20:05
Speaker 2: of migrants granted permanent residency here will not change this
20:09
Speaker 2: financial year.
20:10
Speaker 3: You've got people.
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Speaker 2: Marching over the weekend, including yourself, to say we need.
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Speaker 3: To lower it.
20:14
Speaker 2: We can't get every day ossies into households, big Australia
20:17
Speaker 2: keeps getting bigger.
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Speaker 3: No wonder ossies are frustrated.
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Speaker 1: They are certainly frustrated and don't feel that they're saying
20:26
Speaker 1: they're of course they're not going to lower it. And
20:28
Speaker 1: then they bring in twenty They wanted to cap the
20:31
Speaker 1: student numbers and they've put another twenty five thousand students
20:34
Speaker 1: on it to have taken up to about three hundred thousand.
20:36
Speaker 1: Then they've got all the foreign workers and backpackers and
20:39
Speaker 1: those people coming here. Then you've got the overstairs of
20:41
Speaker 1: over one hundred and seventy five thousand and overstay their visas.
20:44
Speaker 1: Those people shouldn't be in the country. It is absolute
20:47
Speaker 1: basket case of what's happening out there, and no wonder
20:50
Speaker 1: the Australian people are so angry. But I'll keep fighting
20:52
Speaker 1: about the mass migration. It is about mass immigration that's
20:56
Speaker 1: happening here and it's destroying our standal wave of life,
21:00
Speaker 1: life and her access to services that every strand has
21:03
Speaker 1: right too. But the government brings me purely for the vote,
21:06
Speaker 1: and the fools out there keep voting for them.
21:08
Speaker 3: You're going to suffer. You will suffer. Yeah, politically it
21:12
Speaker 3: suits labor.
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Speaker 2: Give us a wave of the Aussie flag again, please, Senator,
21:15
Speaker 2: we want to see it one more time before we
21:17
Speaker 2: let you go there.
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Speaker 3: It is with pride, with pride.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely good on you. You are a wonderful advocate for
21:25
Speaker 2: this country. And good on you keeping them honest about this.
21:28
Speaker 2: Absolutely one national leader set up to Pauline Hanson, good
21:31
Speaker 2: to catch up as always, Thanks so much for joining me,
21:34
Speaker 2: and she's spot on. It is not racist to be
21:36
Speaker 2: waving the Australian flag. We should be absolutely proud of
21:38
Speaker 2: our Ossie flag. I'll get to this later on in
21:40
Speaker 2: the program with just into nampajimper Price, but I want
21:44
Speaker 2: to return in the meantime to that Chinese military parade
21:47
Speaker 2: and that extraordinary photo of Dan Andrews with the access
21:50
Speaker 2: of evil. Joining me is Peter Jennings from Strategic Analysis Australia.
21:54
Speaker 3: Peter, thanks for your time. I've got to get your reaction.
21:57
Speaker 2: What did you make of that photo of Dan Andrews
21:59
Speaker 2: today with shooting ping Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
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Speaker 11: Well, he'll be known forever by the company he keeps, Daneka,
22:08
Speaker 11: and it was some pretty unpleasant company. You know. These
22:12
Speaker 11: are the authoritarian rulers around the world. These are the torturers,
22:16
Speaker 11: These are the people who bully their own populations. And
22:20
Speaker 11: of course they were all there in Beijing to celebrate
22:23
Speaker 11: a festival of Chinese military strength, telling the rest of
22:27
Speaker 11: the world that we are now here in strength and
22:30
Speaker 11: we're coming to dominate you and to supplant the role
22:34
Speaker 11: of the United States and the democracies. And Dan Andrews
22:37
Speaker 11: wants to be associated with that. I find it quite remarkable.
22:41
Speaker 11: Who's advising this guy?
22:42
Speaker 5: You know?
22:43
Speaker 11: Is what caused? Does he think he's advancing by doing this?
22:46
Speaker 11: So I think it was extremely disappointing. But people will
22:49
Speaker 11: make their own judgments, and I suspect it will universally
22:53
Speaker 11: be a very negative judgment about his choice to be
22:56
Speaker 11: there at a celebration of Chinese militarism with a whole
22:59
Speaker 11: bunch of very unpleasant authoritarian rulers.
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Speaker 2: Well, how would China view his attendants and then him
23:05
Speaker 2: standing in that photo? Would they see it as the
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Speaker 2: ultimate propaganda gift?
23:12
Speaker 3: Oh?
23:12
Speaker 11: Probably a second or third tier propaganda gift. I mean,
23:15
Speaker 11: he is what Vladimir Lenin used to call a useful idiot,
23:19
Speaker 11: someone who is lending weight to support a cause which
23:23
Speaker 11: I think he can't possibly have a clear understanding of
23:27
Speaker 11: and it was a pretty select audience. Let's be clear
23:29
Speaker 11: about this. This was a very unlovely collection of political
23:33
Speaker 11: leaders from around the world, a handful of leaders from
23:36
Speaker 11: Southeast Asia, which I think should be ringing warning bells
23:39
Speaker 11: in Australia, especially President Proboo of Indonesia. That really tells
23:45
Speaker 11: us that, you know, there's a lot of work we
23:47
Speaker 11: need to do in our region to sort of strengthen
23:50
Speaker 11: the position of the democracies and of our alliance relationships.
23:54
Speaker 11: So China would have regarded the presence of any sort
23:57
Speaker 11: of former senior Australian politician as being a positive something
24:01
Speaker 11: that says, look, here are people who endorse what we do.
24:04
Speaker 11: But you know, frankly, our own government had the sense
24:06
Speaker 11: to stay away. Our ambassador had the sense to stay away.
24:10
Speaker 11: That's really what Dan Andrews should have done as well.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, I completely agree. It was a complete embarrassment. Look,
24:15
Speaker 2: we saw China really show off its military might today.
24:19
Speaker 2: What was the true aims of this so called Victory
24:22
Speaker 2: Day parade? What message are they trying to send to
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Speaker 2: the West.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it's always worth remembering that their domestic
24:30
Speaker 11: audience is the most important one from the Communist Party.
24:33
Speaker 11: And we should also understand that the People's Liberation Army,
24:37
Speaker 11: which also covers their navy and their air force, is
24:40
Speaker 11: the military of the Communist Party. It's not the military
24:43
Speaker 11: of the Chinese state. So message number one to the
24:46
Speaker 11: Chinese people is to say we're in charge and don't
24:49
Speaker 11: forget it. This is Chairman Mao's saying power flows from
24:53
Speaker 11: the barrel of the gun, and Hijimping is showing that
24:56
Speaker 11: to his own people. The message to the wider world
24:59
Speaker 11: is to say, look at the look at our strength.
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Speaker 11: You know, we're no longer hiding our international position. We're
25:05
Speaker 11: showing that we want to be the dominant power, not
25:09
Speaker 11: just in the Indo Pacific, but actually in the world.
25:12
Speaker 11: Here we come. And you know, my view is that
25:16
Speaker 11: we should take some sort of discount factor to some
25:19
Speaker 11: of this equipment. A lot of it looked like stuff
25:22
Speaker 11: that was, you know, all together too neatly painted, sort
25:25
Speaker 11: of bobbling around on the backs of trucks. I mean,
25:27
Speaker 11: who knows what the real military capability is. But it's
25:31
Speaker 11: a show of strength. It's an expression of China's position
25:35
Speaker 11: in the international environment and a statement to say that
25:38
Speaker 11: you know, we intend to rule by force if the
25:41
Speaker 11: democracies are silly enough to let China get away with that.
25:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, look absolutely, I mean it was all pomp and
25:47
Speaker 2: ceremony today and from center of that was Dan Andrews,
25:50
Speaker 2: Peter Jennings. We've got to leave it there. Good to
25:52
Speaker 2: catch up with you. Thanks so much for joining me
25:54
Speaker 2: on the show this evening, or do stay with us
25:56
Speaker 2: coming up after the break. Senator just sent a nampaginper
25:59
Speaker 2: price and why we should criminalize burning.
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Speaker 3: The Australian flag. That's next. Today is National.
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Speaker 2: Flag Day, celebrating the first time the flag was flown
26:12
Speaker 2: on the third of September nineteen oh one, and I
26:16
Speaker 2: think this celebration is more important than ever.
26:19
Speaker 3: What sort of a country do we want to live in?
26:22
Speaker 2: It's something that I have asked myself many times since
26:25
Speaker 2: October seven, twenty twenty three, because week in week out,
26:29
Speaker 2: these anti Israel protests bring shane to Australia and the
26:33
Speaker 2: Australian flag has been replaced on the streets by the
26:36
Speaker 2: Palestinian flag and those of terror groups. Now at the weekend,
26:41
Speaker 2: thousands marched for Australia, waving the Aussie flag. So proudly
26:45
Speaker 2: wanting to take their country back and call for lower migration,
26:50
Speaker 2: and of course right on q they were labeled racists.
26:54
Speaker 3: Why because a small number of Neo.
26:57
Speaker 2: Nazis rocked up and were booed by the crowd. By
27:00
Speaker 2: the way, the majority there were everyday Aussies who are
27:04
Speaker 2: proud of their country and are so sick of it
27:07
Speaker 2: being eroded. So how did we go from being proud
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Speaker 2: to raise the flag for the first time in nineteen
27:14
Speaker 2: oh one to now being called a racist, a bigot
27:17
Speaker 2: or a zenophobe in twenty twenty five If you do
27:20
Speaker 2: the same now. Indigenous Senator Jacenter nampajimpro Price has used
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Speaker 2: the day to call for flag burning to be criminalized
27:28
Speaker 2: and to launch a passionate defense of our national symbol.
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Speaker 3: Today is National Flag Day.
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Speaker 13: When one understands the history behind our national flag, when
27:37
Speaker 13: one values its symbolic weight, it's beyond comprehension that the
27:42
Speaker 13: burning of our national flag is not a criminal offense.
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Speaker 4: Like most Australians, I was appalled by the footage of
27:50
Speaker 4: pro Palestinian protests burning our national flag in Melbourne on
27:55
Speaker 4: Sunday third August. That event coincided with a disruptive discription,
28:00
Speaker 4: tteful and divided valley across the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
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Speaker 2: But surprise, surprise, the mere sight of the flag upset
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Speaker 2: the Greens today.
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Speaker 14: And I do want to make the point that if
28:11
Speaker 14: it's okay for Senator Nampa Jimper Price to wrap herself
28:15
Speaker 14: in this flag, I would intend to wrap myself in
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Speaker 14: a Palestinian flag and come into the chamber and exercise
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Speaker 14: the same rights that Senator Nampajimper Price is currently exercises.
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Speaker 2: I'm a what an absolute disgrace now. Look not one
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Speaker 2: to back away from an argument. Senator Price quite rightly
28:33
Speaker 2: hit back at the Green's hypocrisy.
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Speaker 4: So disappointing from the Greens, but also so typical. You
28:41
Speaker 4: can wear a kiffer in here. Perhaps you should remove
28:43
Speaker 4: that article from you whenever you walk through these chambers
28:46
Speaker 4: for the benefit of all Australians in this country.
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Speaker 3: Yes, for a snark all you like, it's revolting.
28:52
Speaker 4: You don't love this country the way I do, certainly
28:55
Speaker 4: not like most Australians do.
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Speaker 2: And let's bring in Senator just into Nampajimp Price now
29:00
Speaker 2: the Shadow Minister for Defense Industry.
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Speaker 3: She joins me from Canberra.
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Speaker 2: So it's good to see you. Thanks so much for
29:06
Speaker 2: joining me. Look good on you for taking a stand
29:09
Speaker 2: on this today. I've got to ask you, firstly, what
29:12
Speaker 2: did you make of the Greens response.
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Speaker 4: Oh, it's typical. It's disgusting of the Greens. They're so
29:19
Speaker 4: anti Australian. I mean, you know, Senator McKim was complaining
29:24
Speaker 4: that if I was going to wear the Australian flag
29:26
Speaker 4: on National Flag Day, of all days, then you know,
29:31
Speaker 4: why can't he be wearing coming in draped in a
29:35
Speaker 4: Palestinian flag.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the Greens for you.
29:38
Speaker 4: They care more about other countries than they do our
29:42
Speaker 4: own country. They're part of the reason why our country
29:46
Speaker 4: sees so much division right now. And you know what,
29:49
Speaker 4: I will stand up for Australia.
29:51
Speaker 3: All the time.
29:52
Speaker 4: You know, I love this country. We should be able
29:55
Speaker 4: to wear our Australian flag. You know, I'm going to
29:58
Speaker 4: get a dress or something like that made of the
30:00
Speaker 4: Australian flag and wear that into the Senate next time around.
30:04
Speaker 4: Because the Greens come in, they pontificate, They bring in
30:08
Speaker 4: props all the time, including dead fish for crying out loud,
30:12
Speaker 4: and they want to complain about me wearing the Australian flag.
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense. And it brings me
30:18
Speaker 2: to my next question. Why are the left tying themselves
30:21
Speaker 2: in knots of guilt over the Australian flag. I mean,
30:24
Speaker 2: you know Nick McKim, the Greens for example.
30:26
Speaker 3: But I think we are really out of.
30:27
Speaker 2: Crossroads in this country because if you wave the Australian flag,
30:31
Speaker 2: suddenly you're now big at you're erasist.
30:33
Speaker 3: I mean, look what happened over the weekend with those marches.
30:36
Speaker 3: How did we get here?
30:40
Speaker 4: I know, Look, I mean this has been going on
30:42
Speaker 4: for some time now and I think you know, an
30:45
Speaker 4: Australia Day is an example of those that want to
30:48
Speaker 4: see this country, you know, brought down Australia Day. We've
30:53
Speaker 4: seen this growing anger toward the day, the day that
30:56
Speaker 4: most Australians want to celebrate, and because of that, I
30:59
Speaker 4: think that come to this point where somehow we're not
31:02
Speaker 4: allowed to.
31:03
Speaker 3: Be proud of our Australian flag.
31:04
Speaker 4: I mean, I tell people I love it every year
31:06
Speaker 4: driving around Australia over the Christmas period and seeing that
31:11
Speaker 4: the Australian flag is being flown more and more from
31:14
Speaker 4: people's homes and we've got to get back our national pride,
31:18
Speaker 4: our nation's pride. And what happened on the weekend was
31:22
Speaker 4: exactly that. This was a pro Australian rally about those
31:28
Speaker 4: every day Australian sick to death of the left berating
31:31
Speaker 4: us for being proud to call ourselves Australian, for we
31:34
Speaker 4: want to teach, for wanting to teach our children to
31:37
Speaker 4: be proud to call themselves Australian. And we need to
31:40
Speaker 4: continue on with that sentiment because our country needs it
31:43
Speaker 4: now more than it ever has.
31:45
Speaker 2: Oh look, I completely agree with you. We really really
31:48
Speaker 2: need that camaraderie that we once had when we first
31:51
Speaker 2: raise the flag as we know back in nineteen oh one.
31:54
Speaker 2: Now look, you also spoke today about the Prime Minister's
31:56
Speaker 2: decision to stand in front of three flags at most
31:59
Speaker 2: press commonferences.
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Speaker 3: Let's take a look.
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Speaker 13: The Prime Minister's decision to stand in front.
32:03
Speaker 4: Of three flags isn't an act of respect, It's an
32:06
Speaker 4: act of disrespect.
32:08
Speaker 13: From disrespect comes division. From division comes disloyalty, and from
32:14
Speaker 13: disloyalty comes greater motive for desecration.
32:18
Speaker 2: And I must point out, Senator, I am yet to
32:21
Speaker 2: hear personally any labor mp come out today and recognize
32:24
Speaker 2: National Flag Day. I see there seems to be they're
32:26
Speaker 2: hiding away from it. But look, you raise a good
32:28
Speaker 2: point because you've got the Prime Minister standing in front
32:31
Speaker 2: of three flags. Well, I'm not aware that we have
32:34
Speaker 2: three flags. We have one flag and that's our national flag.
32:39
Speaker 4: Look, that's exactly right. I mean, as I've said before,
32:43
Speaker 4: on a global in a global setting, we look confused,
32:46
Speaker 4: you know, are we three people or are we one
32:48
Speaker 4: country Australia. And what angers me also is the fact
32:52
Speaker 4: that well, on this day today, at the front of
32:55
Speaker 4: our Parliament, with our rows of flags usually it's the
32:58
Speaker 4: three flags, the Australian, Aboriginal and the Torres Straight Island
33:01
Speaker 4: of flags. For the first time, because it's wow National
33:04
Speaker 4: Flag Day, we have just rows of the Australian flag
33:07
Speaker 4: until we get to the point where the grass is
33:10
Speaker 4: and then it continues on the three separate flags. This
33:14
Speaker 4: should not be happening in our Australian Parliament, especially at
33:18
Speaker 4: a time when we're faced with the geopolitical circumstances that
33:22
Speaker 4: we're faced with. We need to instill pride in our
33:26
Speaker 4: country and who we are as Australians built, whether we're
33:28
Speaker 4: the first people, whether we come from convict heritage, which
33:32
Speaker 4: I certainly am and proud of, and whether we come
33:35
Speaker 4: from migrant heritage, which of course my husband is and
33:39
Speaker 4: many also within my family. But we have built a
33:43
Speaker 4: nation to be proud of. And this is something we
33:45
Speaker 4: should be celebrating every day, not just on National Flag Day,
33:50
Speaker 4: but every day.
33:51
Speaker 3: And we should have our.
33:52
Speaker 4: Flag flying proudly here at the front of our Parliament
33:56
Speaker 4: without any other flag interfering with who we are as
34:00
Speaker 4: a country.
34:01
Speaker 3: Look, I completely agree with you.
34:02
Speaker 2: Now you've written a great piece today the Daily Telegraph
34:05
Speaker 2: as well about penalties for people who do burn the
34:07
Speaker 2: Australian flag. I mean, we've only just seen it recently
34:10
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, which was an absolute disgrace.
34:12
Speaker 3: What are you calling for?
34:13
Speaker 2: What sort of penalties do you think would be appropriate?
34:19
Speaker 4: Look, you know, in some cases a fine, I don't think,
34:22
Speaker 4: depending on what the you know, the act that takes
34:25
Speaker 4: place and the severity of it and the conduct of
34:28
Speaker 4: the people who are burning the flag. But you know,
34:30
Speaker 4: I would propose even you know, a short stint in
34:34
Speaker 4: prison perhaps for those who want to burn our nation's flag.
34:37
Speaker 4: I mean and this is what you know I implore
34:40
Speaker 4: the Albanese government to do is to make it illegal
34:44
Speaker 4: to burn our nation's flag. You know, other countries do
34:47
Speaker 4: it and we should be doing it too. But our
34:50
Speaker 4: Prime Minister is weak when it comes to leadership. He's
34:54
Speaker 4: weak when it comes to calling out terrorism in this
34:57
Speaker 4: country and those that wish to divide us antisem 'tism.
35:01
Speaker 4: This is why we're faced with the situation that we're
35:03
Speaker 4: faced with. And he's had to, as you know, recently
35:06
Speaker 4: expel the Iranian ambassador because of what has occurred because
35:10
Speaker 4: in October seven, following October seven, he failed to call
35:14
Speaker 4: out the protest that took place at the Opera House.
35:18
Speaker 3: He failed to call that out, and.
35:19
Speaker 4: This is why we've got the situation we've currently got now.
35:23
Speaker 4: So it's about time this government stood up made it
35:27
Speaker 4: illegal to burn our flag as a beginning measure, as
35:30
Speaker 4: a start and start instilling some pride in our country.
35:34
Speaker 3: Australia, I agree, and jail them. And if you're not
35:37
Speaker 3: proud to be here, leave, you know, the door is open.
35:40
Speaker 3: Off you go, because this is a.
35:42
Speaker 2: Fantastic country and if you're not proud of it, see
35:45
Speaker 2: you later.
35:45
Speaker 3: Just sit to nampajimp for price. Really appreciate your time.
35:47
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining me on the show this evening.
35:51
Speaker 4: Thanks Anika.
35:53
Speaker 3: Coming up, government.
35:53
Speaker 2: Debts said to hit one trillion dollars earlier than expected.
35:57
Speaker 2: How do we reign in spending? Economist Dmitri Burn joins
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Speaker 2: me next.
36:05
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
36:06
Speaker 2: While it's clear Labour's pathological obsession with big spending isn't
36:10
Speaker 2: going anywhere, we learned today that the federal government's total
36:13
Speaker 2: borrowings figure is due to hit the one trillion dollar
36:16
Speaker 2: mark in the next few months alone. Now this is
36:19
Speaker 2: staggering and something Labor is very keen to sweep under
36:22
Speaker 2: the carpet. Joining me now is Dimitry Birstein from Eminence Advisory.
36:26
Speaker 3: And Dmitry, good to see you again. Thank you for
36:28
Speaker 3: joining me.
36:29
Speaker 2: We're in debt up to our eyeballs right now. But
36:32
Speaker 2: how do we get to that trillion dollar figure so quickly?
36:35
Speaker 3: It's creeping up? Well.
36:37
Speaker 15: In two thousand and seven, the gross debt was around
36:40
Speaker 15: fifty four billion. It's now nine hundred and sixty two
36:43
Speaker 15: as today. That's an average increase of about fifty billion
36:46
Speaker 15: dollars a year for the last eighteen years. How did
36:49
Speaker 15: we do it, but very simply spent more than the
36:53
Speaker 15: government spent more than we earned. But don't forget it's
36:56
Speaker 15: not just that you're just quoting the comwal debt. There's
36:58
Speaker 15: the state and territory debt another six hundred billion on
37:01
Speaker 15: top of that.
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Speaker 3: That's just ridiculous. Well, I mean, where is it coming from?
37:05
Speaker 2: I know the NDIES is the biggest problem, but what
37:09
Speaker 2: is it.
37:09
Speaker 15: It's very simple, it's just the government. Government policy is
37:13
Speaker 15: slowing down the economy. Economic growth is slow, productivity is
37:18
Speaker 15: in the in the bask in the bathroom. You know,
37:24
Speaker 15: we're just growing slowly and spending too much. There's a
37:27
Speaker 15: big shift from the private sector to the public sector.
37:31
Speaker 15: The commonwealth is spending is around you know, twenty seven
37:34
Speaker 15: percent of the GDP at the moment. It was twenty
37:37
Speaker 15: two percent under Hawk, Keating and Walsh many years ago.
37:42
Speaker 15: Five percent. That translates into another, you know, about one hundred,
37:45
Speaker 15: one hundred and twenty billion dollars of spending in today's dollars.
37:50
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's just out of control.
37:51
Speaker 2: And obviously they had that talk fest that is this
37:54
Speaker 2: economic roundtable, and Jim Chalmers has already indicated that the
37:57
Speaker 2: only way that he's going to be able to rate
37:59
Speaker 2: in this spend is to raise taxes. There's big tax
38:02
Speaker 2: reform of jen and not that we know much about
38:04
Speaker 2: Demetri they're keeping it under.
38:05
Speaker 3: Wraps, but I mean, higher taxes. What is this going
38:09
Speaker 3: to mean? How do you see this playing out?
38:11
Speaker 15: Do you think a further slowering of the economy. And
38:15
Speaker 15: it's not just a slowing of the economy because businesses
38:18
Speaker 15: aren't forming the next generation of human capital. The young
38:22
Speaker 15: folks who are going to start the business's, you know,
38:26
Speaker 15: growth businesses.
38:27
Speaker 3: They're going to leave.
38:29
Speaker 15: They're going to leave and leave their hex liability to
38:31
Speaker 15: the rest of us. They're going to take their skills
38:34
Speaker 15: and their imagination to another country that doesn't have the
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Speaker 15: housing problems that we have, the government, the policy driven
38:40
Speaker 15: housing problems we have, that doesn't have the taxes they have,
38:43
Speaker 15: and they'll just leave and leave their hex liabilities for
38:45
Speaker 15: the rest of us to pay.
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Speaker 2: So, okay, So if they do raise taxes it's been foreshadowed,
38:51
Speaker 2: we know this.
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Speaker 3: Is it really going to have any tangible impact on debt?
38:55
Speaker 15: No, because they spent still spending faster than I mean,
38:59
Speaker 15: raising tax rates does not necessarily raise tax revenue. If
39:02
Speaker 15: you have a look at the debacle that is the
39:05
Speaker 15: tobacco excise, they keep raising rates and the revenue keeps falling.
39:09
Speaker 15: There's a concept that came out, you know, from the
39:11
Speaker 15: nineteen eighties, from Reagan's White House, the Laffer curve. It
39:14
Speaker 15: shows that there is an there is a point beyond
39:17
Speaker 15: which if you keep raising rates, revenue will decline because
39:20
Speaker 15: people just change their behavior. So people will just stop investing,
39:23
Speaker 15: people will just stop working. The incentives are going to go.
39:27
Speaker 3: Do you think that.
39:27
Speaker 2: Fiscal restraint wins elections anymore? Because coalition governments, I mean
39:31
Speaker 2: they've been historically rewarded for actually balancing the books. These
39:35
Speaker 2: days people are going, oh, I get a handout, that's
39:37
Speaker 2: all that matters.
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Speaker 3: So do you think it makes a difference.
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Speaker 15: Not at the moment, but just wait, I mean, I
39:43
Speaker 15: don't think it's We're that far off from a credit
39:45
Speaker 15: credit downgrade. The Australian government has got is one of
39:47
Speaker 15: the few countries in the world that has a triple
39:50
Speaker 15: A credit rating. You know, people will try to give
39:54
Speaker 15: us false comfort by saying, oh, but our debt to
39:56
Speaker 15: GDP is not as high as other countries. But They
39:59
Speaker 15: tend to quote the worst examples, like Japan and the
40:01
Speaker 15: United States. Australia is a small, trade exposed economy. They
40:06
Speaker 15: don't count, they don't include the state debt in those figures.
40:10
Speaker 15: And so what will happen is at some point it's
40:12
Speaker 15: not going to happen tomorrow, it's not going to happen
40:13
Speaker 15: next month. But on current trajectory, it'll happen. Our government's
40:18
Speaker 15: credit rating will be cut, which means that interest rates
40:22
Speaker 15: on government debt will go up. At the moment we're
40:26
Speaker 15: paying well, sorry not at the moment we're paying about
40:28
Speaker 15: twenty five billion dollars a year in interest on the debt.
40:32
Speaker 15: By the end of the forward estimates it'll be forty
40:34
Speaker 15: two billion. The fastest growing line item in the budget
40:37
Speaker 15: is not ndis, it's interest. It's growing at around thirteen
40:41
Speaker 15: to fourteen percent per annum. And that'll just go higher,
40:44
Speaker 15: and that'll just eat up more of the budget. And
40:46
Speaker 15: won't you stop at the government. It'll wash through the
40:48
Speaker 15: economy because the Australian banks, their credit ratings are linked
40:52
Speaker 15: because of the implicit government guarantee, so their cost of money.
40:56
Speaker 3: Will go up, which will wash through to mortgage.
40:57
Speaker 15: Payments and to business loans. It'll just affect a flow
41:03
Speaker 15: on effect, flow on effect. So you know, we're on
41:05
Speaker 15: a trajectory to a lot of pain unless there is
41:09
Speaker 15: some serious conversations had the bond markets don't muck around
41:13
Speaker 15: when they've had enough. They've had enough. And you know,
41:16
Speaker 15: ask ask the Argentinians what happens when bond markets refused
41:19
Speaker 15: to finance them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean they had this this around table.
41:23
Speaker 3: That was the that was their big talking fest.
41:25
Speaker 2: That that was their how we're going to solve the
41:27
Speaker 2: world's problems moment, but clearly not to meet your birsh teen.
41:30
Speaker 3: Good to see you again. Thanks so much for joining
41:32
Speaker 3: me on the show. I appreciate it. We'll stay with us.
41:34
Speaker 2: Coming up after break the Wednesday Wrangle, we'll discuss a
41:37
Speaker 2: call for the Prime Minister to consider retiring to the
41:40
Speaker 2: Coba Cabaner early.
41:41
Speaker 3: That's next. Welcome back.
41:46
Speaker 2: Let's get straight into the Wednesday Rangel. Now joining me
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Speaker 2: is Sky News contributor Louise Roberts and my regular sparring
41:53
Speaker 2: partner Justin Smith, who's over in Melbourne. Good to see
41:55
Speaker 2: you both, Thanks so much for joining me.
41:57
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, you're off the hook.
41:59
Speaker 2: This week justin But look, as I mentioned at the
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Speaker 2: top of the show, isis bride stratted in northern Syria.
42:04
Speaker 2: They're said to be returned home before Christmas. The deal
42:07
Speaker 2: is in the final stages of been green leap. That's
42:10
Speaker 2: according to the Australian newspaper.
42:12
Speaker 3: Luis.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand how this could even possibly go ahead.
42:15
Speaker 2: Labor's wiping its hands of it. It's going no, no, no,
42:18
Speaker 2: we don't have anything to do with it. Regardless. I
42:21
Speaker 2: think they know exactly what's going on well.
42:23
Speaker 4: Of course, and they're saying it's security concerns they can't
42:25
Speaker 4: be seen to have their fingerprints on it, but clearly
42:27
Speaker 4: they are. And I mean, isis brides make those crazy
42:30
Speaker 4: women who write to death Row inmates look positively same.
42:33
Speaker 4: And these are women who've pledged allegiance to the Islamb
42:36
Speaker 4: state and they've left the country. They've renounced Australia. But
42:39
Speaker 4: when it all, you know, the Raby Night's dream goes wrong,
42:42
Speaker 4: they want to be back in Australia. And I don't
42:43
Speaker 4: blame the children, the kids who are over there, they're
42:46
Speaker 4: the innocent pawns and all of this, so I can
42:47
Speaker 4: understand why there is some campaign to get the kids back,
42:51
Speaker 4: but what does it mean for these women, particularly when
42:54
Speaker 4: there's some known security risks as well.
42:56
Speaker 3: How is that going to be dealt with?
42:58
Speaker 4: Are they're going to be put back intobia like they've
43:00
Speaker 4: been on a gap yere in Syria? Or I mean,
43:02
Speaker 4: what's the story?
43:03
Speaker 3: Well, that's it. They've left here.
43:05
Speaker 2: Well, but justin they've left here, they've gone on this
43:07
Speaker 2: romantic Jahati getaway. Clearly the romance bubble has burst. They're
43:11
Speaker 2: no longer interested in staying over there now they want
43:14
Speaker 2: back into this country.
43:15
Speaker 3: Why should they come back here?
43:18
Speaker 16: I cannot believe that. I've got to say this me
43:22
Speaker 16: as a male, I've got to say this to two women.
43:24
Speaker 16: How many times have we talked about the way women
43:28
Speaker 16: are treated by some of the people, particularly someone like
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Speaker 16: Islamic State, and we've talked about how badly women are treated. Now,
43:38
Speaker 16: I'm not saying that they should be brought back here
43:40
Speaker 16: without being assessed, without the proper security checks. And I
43:43
Speaker 16: certainly think the government should be commenting on it, because
43:45
Speaker 16: that's what we vote them in for. But come on,
43:48
Speaker 16: we can't wipe our hands. Some of these people are
43:50
Speaker 16: Australian citizens, many of them have been held hostage by
43:54
Speaker 16: these bastards over there, and to bread that part of
43:57
Speaker 16: this is our duty to make sure these people are
43:59
Speaker 16: protect Did you say protect the children? Why say we've
44:01
Speaker 16: got to protect the women as well? And I can't
44:04
Speaker 16: believe it they were doing.
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Speaker 2: No, they knew what they were doing when they left
44:08
Speaker 2: this country.
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Speaker 3: Where did you get that information from? Where did you
44:10
Speaker 3: get that from?
44:11
Speaker 2: Because they have flown out of this country and they've
44:13
Speaker 2: gone to Isis, they have pledged their allegiance to ISIS.
44:16
Speaker 3: They have left this country in the name.
44:18
Speaker 2: Of terrorism, right, So why should we let But the
44:21
Speaker 2: point the point I'm trying to make you justin they
44:23
Speaker 2: knew what they were doing.
44:24
Speaker 16: We're talking about letting terrorists back in here.
44:27
Speaker 3: But they have pledged I'm not talking about.
44:28
Speaker 16: Letting terrorists back in here. So where are you getting
44:31
Speaker 16: that from? Like, where are you getting that from? Who
44:33
Speaker 16: have you talked to that has told.
44:34
Speaker 2: You that if you have married a freedom fighter, what
44:38
Speaker 2: are you suggesting that they're just innocent, that they're not
44:40
Speaker 2: captured by the ideology over there.
44:42
Speaker 16: No, I'm not saying they're innocent over there, but I'm
44:45
Speaker 16: saying we have talked many times about the way women
44:48
Speaker 16: have been treated by groups like isis so to wipe
44:51
Speaker 16: our hands of these people that are Australian Australian citizens.
44:55
Speaker 16: But look, I do agree with you that the government
44:57
Speaker 16: has got to front up this and talk about it
45:01
Speaker 16: and tell us what's going on. They can't leave us
45:03
Speaker 16: in the dark, because that said job to be frank.
45:05
Speaker 4: I also think the point is that these women have
45:07
Speaker 4: to bear some responsibility for leaving the country and going
45:10
Speaker 4: over there in the first place.
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Speaker 3: I agree. No, I'm with you all the way on that. Now.
45:13
Speaker 2: Look, there was a really interesting column in nine newspapers
45:15
Speaker 2: Diction Price, by the economic editor Ross Gittens. He writes,
45:19
Speaker 2: under the leadership of Anthony ABERESI, labor has lost its
45:22
Speaker 2: reforming zeal It knows we have plenty of problems and
45:25
Speaker 2: would like to do something about them, but not yet.
45:28
Speaker 2: Speaking of retirement, that's what Alberanese should do if he
45:31
Speaker 2: wants to run a government but can't bring himself to govern.
45:33
Speaker 3: No shame in being past it, justin.
45:36
Speaker 2: Is it time to head off to the Coba cabana earlier?
45:39
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?
45:42
Speaker 16: Bless Old Ross Getten's for this one. But if you're
45:45
Speaker 16: the prime minister. In this game, even if you're the
45:46
Speaker 16: opposition leader, probably once a week someone is going to
45:50
Speaker 16: either write a column or go on a program like this,
45:53
Speaker 16: or even call you up personally and tell you that
45:55
Speaker 16: it's time to hang up your hat. It's all kind
45:58
Speaker 16: of part of the job, so it doesn't come as
46:00
Speaker 16: a galloping shot. Would you retire after the win that
46:03
Speaker 16: he has just had?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know. To be honest, it
46:08
Speaker 2: would be great if he did, because I just think,
46:10
Speaker 2: quite frankly, Luise, right now, I think alber Easy version
46:13
Speaker 2: two is way worse than alber Easy version one.
46:16
Speaker 5: Well.
46:16
Speaker 4: I think the point the Ross kittens makes too, is
46:18
Speaker 4: that he's got the biggest mandate ever ninety four seeds,
46:21
Speaker 4: and he's not being bold with decisions. They know they're
46:23
Speaker 4: are problems, but they're not really doing anything to fix it,
46:26
Speaker 4: are they. So he said when if not now, then when,
46:29
Speaker 4: I mean, stop acting like you're in opposition.
46:31
Speaker 3: This is Ross's point. No, I think that's a fair point. No,
46:33
Speaker 3: I completely agree.
46:34
Speaker 5: Now.
46:34
Speaker 3: Look, finally some common sense from labor.
46:36
Speaker 2: A Parliamentary DS committee has decided to ditch plans to
46:40
Speaker 2: send five MP's on a junket to Europe to learn
46:43
Speaker 2: about disability services abroad. Loise, I think this is great news.
46:48
Speaker 2: The NDIS is an absolute behemoth. It's already costing us
46:51
Speaker 2: an arm and a leg as it is, so I
46:52
Speaker 2: mean to put that on top a junket overseas.
46:55
Speaker 3: Come on?
46:56
Speaker 4: I mean, who thought going to Europe at this time
46:57
Speaker 4: of year with what one hundred and five billion dollars
47:00
Speaker 4: or whatever the blowout is was a good idea? I mean,
47:02
Speaker 4: haven't they heard of Zoom? Sure there might be some
47:04
Speaker 4: experts that can help us here, but why not get
47:06
Speaker 4: them on a Zoom call which doesn't actually wrack up
47:09
Speaker 4: any frequent fly points or cost thousands of that? What's
47:12
Speaker 4: seventy k on business flite seats? I think business class
47:15
Speaker 4: stores close. Well, nothing says like representing the people in
47:18
Speaker 4: a reclining seat drinking champagne forty thousand feet in the air.
47:22
Speaker 3: Doesn't it really a business? I agreg Well.
47:24
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, over in your home city, justin Lord Mayor, Nicholas
47:28
Speaker 2: Race has added another leg to his world tour.
47:30
Speaker 3: He's stopping off on three overseas trips.
47:32
Speaker 2: Like this year, flying business class China, Japan, Hong Kong,
47:35
Speaker 2: Brazil and India.
47:37
Speaker 3: Does it pass the pub test? No, I don't.
47:41
Speaker 16: I don't think it does. I don't think it does
47:44
Speaker 16: at all. And we've seen this by local councilors before,
47:47
Speaker 16: and I'm sort of kind of surprised that Nick Reese
47:49
Speaker 16: has fell for it. But the key here is always
47:53
Speaker 16: in these situations is value. Now, if Nick Reese spent
47:56
Speaker 16: say look, I'm just pulling these figures out, let's pay
47:58
Speaker 16: you spent one hundred thousand dollars on trip overseas, but
48:01
Speaker 16: that trip overseas brought in say five million dollars into
48:04
Speaker 16: the economy or ten million dollars in the economy of Victoria,
48:07
Speaker 16: then you'd say the trip is worth it. But very
48:09
Speaker 16: rarely are these people able to show the value of
48:13
Speaker 16: going on these trips. So I'd say, look, if he's
48:14
Speaker 16: going to do it, he's going to have to make
48:16
Speaker 16: sure he shows us the full value of the trip.
48:18
Speaker 16: Otherwise it doesn't pass the pub test. It's already failing.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree, tell us why you're doing it, and
48:24
Speaker 2: what's going on now?
48:25
Speaker 3: Looks social agree with me?
48:27
Speaker 2: I agree this is a first then, justin what's going on?
48:29
Speaker 2: This is a very rare moment.
48:30
Speaker 3: For you and I and I'm worry. I'll have to
48:33
Speaker 3: take a moment. Let me just take a moment here,
48:36
Speaker 3: I have to take a breath. I'm shocked myself.
48:38
Speaker 2: Now, look, let's see if we agree on the Social
48:40
Speaker 2: media went wild over the last week. Lefty's were writing
48:43
Speaker 2: off Donald Trump after he wasn't seen in public.
48:45
Speaker 3: And here's Abby Chatfield.
48:47
Speaker 7: He's been having health issues, big fat cankles, big fat
48:54
Speaker 7: bruise on his hand, lack of color, didn't even put
48:57
Speaker 7: his foundation on the other day, my best friend.
48:59
Speaker 3: Theorized is that he's had a health scare or health
49:05
Speaker 3: event and he's going to resign.
49:10
Speaker 2: Well, sorry, Abby, Actually he came out today and he
49:12
Speaker 2: made an appearance.
49:13
Speaker 3: Quick comment from both of you are almost out of time.
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Speaker 4: Louise, Well, he goes missing for food eight hours and
49:18
Speaker 4: the left shows it's true Colors, they're wishing his eternal
49:21
Speaker 4: demise exactly.
49:22
Speaker 3: Justin what do you reckon?
49:25
Speaker 16: Well, look, I think the Orange Prince is far too
49:27
Speaker 16: entertaining to shuffle off this mortal coil at this stage.
49:31
Speaker 16: He's got to a few more shows to put on yet,
49:33
Speaker 16: all right.
49:34
Speaker 2: I think, okay, well, oh look I just you know,
49:36
Speaker 2: poor old Abby Chatfield again.
49:38
Speaker 3: Good to see both.
49:39
Speaker 2: Justin Smith, Lloyds Robbins, thanks so much for joining me,
49:41
Speaker 2: Thanks for your company. Chris Kenny will be back tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: Now it's time for Peter Kreblin.
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Speaker 5: Good night