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Anpanman - Let's hear your AST SpaceMobile story · AST SpaceMobile Podcast

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  This is the AST Space Mobile podcast.
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  Where we just basically turn the phone be seamless, regardless of
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  where you are. We don't want the user even to
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  know that it's connected by satellite.
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  Listen, the opportunity that we have is very, very, very large.
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  Hey everyone, how's it going? Thanks everyone for joining on
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  Sunday evening. I figured I'd host a space since
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  Kook is out traveling internationally and he won't be
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  doing a space tonight. And since I'm hosting, I figured
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  we'd start earlier because whenever who cook Kook hosts, I
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  usually have my headphones on and I'm in bed and I fall asleep
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  like halfway through. So I figured I would just do it
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  a little earlier today. But yeah, I wanted to talk about
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  a few, I guess, updates which are quite exciting, and then we
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  can go into inviting folks up to share a bit about their AST
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  space mobile story. I figured since we're at the end
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  of the year, might be a good time to just get together and
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  just hang out. But let's start off with this
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  coming week. We've got a number of exciting
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  things going on. 1st Bluebird 6 will be launching this Tuesday,
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  December 23rd at 10:24 PM That will be out of India on an
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  Israel LVM three rocket M6 mission I believe.
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  And so that is going to be very exciting.
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  We are going to have a joint space with Katsi, Kook, Tut and
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  a few others. And so I think we're going to
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  try to start that one to two hours ahead of time.
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  But but yeah, it's just going to be us talking shop and waiting
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  anxiously for the, the, the rocket for lunch.
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  And so as I mentioned over this weekend, if you get a chance,
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  drop by the store, get a Doctor Pepper so we can celebrate our
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  good friends. Steve Larrison, who, who passed
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  away in 2023. He lived on Doctor Pepper.
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  And so that's why we, we have this tradition of just
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  celebrating milestones and achievements by having a Doctor
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  Pepper. Actually, when I was in high
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  school, I I basically lived on Doctor Repper as well.
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  And so, oh, when, when Steve told me that he was into Doctor
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  Repper, right away I knew that he was a good guy.
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  But yeah, so we've got that launch coming on Tuesday.
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  And so that's exciting. And then of course, we found out
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  that BB7 was shipped today or perhaps maybe it was yesterday.
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  And so that's exciting news. The disclosure with some
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  pictures was great that that satellite will be heading to
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  Cape Canaveral. My guess is that it will arrive.
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  Probably it's either there already or it'll be there on
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  Monday or Tuesday and perhaps we'll get some update on the
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  arrival of that satellite. But very exciting.
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  Now it's a matter of figuring out which rocket it's going to
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  be on. I think, you know, most people
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  expect that a Falcon 9 will take that satellite up.
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  It could be a dedicated launch. Most likely though, just based
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  off of FCC filings, it's probably going to be a rideshare
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  of some sort. But then I think there is a
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  decent probability that that satellite actually may be on the
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  next Blue Origin New Glen March, which would be amazing given
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  that that's going to be the second, you know, second time
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  that Blue Origin will be trying to land the booster.
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  And there will be a ton of fanfare and press around that.
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  And so by having the, you know, BB7 launch on top of that would
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  be tremendous, you know, press and awareness and it would just
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  be great. Can you imagine if we all go
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  down to Florida and not only do we get to see BB7 go up, but we
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  actually get to see it on Blue Origin New Glen, which would be
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  insane. That said, if it is going up on
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  the Blue Origin New Glen, I'm not sure how many of us will be
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  invited because there'll probably be a ton of people
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  there to watch New Glen launch. And so seats are probably be
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  tougher than if it were to just go on a Falcon 9.
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  But either way, it'll be exciting.
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  I've had a few questions about potential timing and just given
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  that it's shipping down to the Cape this late, I think at
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  earliest maybe a late January launch, but if I had to bet,
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  it'd probably be, you know, early February launch.
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  The other thing is that there was a production update and, you
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  know, people have kind of gone through the math and we've got
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  some hints that they're now up to six satellites production per
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  month. And so my guess is that we'll
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  probably see a batch of Bluebirds being sent down to
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  Cape Canaveral as early as this week or perhaps, you know, next
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  week. But in an uncanny way, Scott
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  Wisniewski tweeted out he mean that someone had put together of
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  Santa Claus driving the AST Space mobile truck down to Cape
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  Canaveral. And and he said, like, you know,
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  there's exciting things happening this week.
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  So maybe we'll get news that they'll be another batch of
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  Bluebirds being sent down South. Jam packed week.
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  It's going to be a lot of fun. What a way to end the year.
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  And so, yeah, I'm I'm excited. But but yeah, so I did want to
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  host this space to, you know, I whether it's myself or Kook or
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  whoever, we're always talking about AST, of course, then
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  ourselves or, you know, stories or experiences.
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  But I didn't want to invite people up to share their story.
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  And so if anyone wants to request to come up, it'd be
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  great. You know, this is you don't have
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  to be a good public speaker. You don't have to do anything.
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  I, you know, I just wanted to hear from others.
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  If folks wanted to share, you know, their background and how
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  they learned about AST and then, you know, share a funny
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  experience and experience. It can be fun, scary, crazy,
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  whatever it is, right? I think we all have a ton of
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  those stories and then and then, yeah, just just have a
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  conversation and perhaps, you know, if you have a prediction
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  for 2026, you know, feel free to share that.
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  But I know people are probably shy, but feel free to request to
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  come up. Actually, I'm going to, I'm
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  going to ask Ronan to come up too, see if he's willing to
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  speak. But but yeah, feel free to
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  request to come up. Don't be shy.
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  If we don't have anyone come up, they'll be kind of a boring
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  space. But while I wait for people
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  overnight, it looks like the space sector is ripping, which
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  is great. I think I was reading somewhere
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  that the Fed is supposed to inject like 8 billion liquidity
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  tomorrow. And so I think we've got the
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  Santa rally started quite early here, but yeah, it's going to be
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  an exciting end to the year. OK.
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  We've got 4 requesters coming up, so I'm going to approve.
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  I'll ask you guys to speak in order.
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  Let's see. Hey, Justin, you there?
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  Hey, can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you.
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  Do you want to go further? Yeah, maybe.
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  Sure, I can break ice a little bit.
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  Tell us a bit about the background.
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  As much as you want to share, you don't have to share too
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  much. But then you know how you learn
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  about AST. Maybe start there?
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  Oh yeah, totally. Well, I'm like semi docs so I
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  don't, I feel pretty comfortable sharing a little bit more.
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  But I'm a I'm a software engineer by trade, studied
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  computer engineering in college, so had some exposure to like the
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  electronic side of things and how I learned about AST.
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  I was living in midtown Manhattan at the time and I
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  think he just like end up being surrounded by a lot of finance
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  Bros. And one of my, one of my
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  roommates, he was, he worked at, he was at Goldman, but he had a
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  few friends who were in private equity telecom.
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  And it was like 2021 mid COVID. And one of his friends who was
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  in PE, he told, told him about this company AST.
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  And this was like right after they spacked and we were talking
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  about stocks and he was like, Oh, you should check out this
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  company. I think they're going to,
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  they're going to be really big one day.
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  So I checked them out and then obviously my, my gut reaction
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  was like cell towers and space, like there's, there's no way
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  this is going to work. And at the time there was not
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  that much information, but I was like, I trust this word and
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  other people's DD is a form of DD.
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  So I bought a few 100 shares and it was only like a few few years
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  later where I had like an epiphany at a concert where I
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  was on a few list of substances that ride.
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  But I remember. Yeah.
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  That round with Holly that I like had the epiphany that like,
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  you know, like to really make a big and investing, you kind of
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  have to invest in secular growth stories and markets are going to
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  grow really big. And, you know, like, I just
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  remembered this company AST and it was, it seemed to be like
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  right after Blue Walker 3 made a successful connection.
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  And I was like, oh, wow, this thing works and it works pretty
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  well. Yeah.
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  So that was started aggressively buying shares.
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  And because that was like my big, my big, my big skepticism.
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  So once that was the risk, I was like, oh, you know, like it
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  works. They'll figure out how to launch
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  it. It's like it's kind of it's kind
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  of pan out. So yeah.
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  You had that. You had the moment of clarity at
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  A at a rave. Yeah, exactly.
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  You know, sometimes, sometimes getting out of your element
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  really changes your mindset. No, that's true.
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  That's true. Do do you have any, any like
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  experiences here or perhaps like I guess your moment of clarity
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  might have been your experience, but any, any stories?
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  I think, I think that that might have been it.
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  I I mean I had a few where like I, I came to the launch super
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  last minute and I like made a quick like 24 hour day trip
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  down. I I think like no I I I like
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  bike to LaGuardia from. That's right, you.
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  Told me. From my office and I like, I I
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  biked over at like 6:00 at night, I hopped on the flight.
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  I I like crashed in my friend's place went to the launch at like
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  4:00 in the morning and then got back on the flight at like 11.
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  That's insane. Yeah.
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  But it was it was worth it that I think being there, I had a lot
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  of conviction, you know, just like seeing the energy and
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  seeing like a bell and all the people that come out.
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  It really, it really shows that it's like, you know, this is
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  this is a real thing. It's like a lot of people are
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  like supporting it. And, you know, that's like
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  really cool to see as an investor.
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  Right, right. Yeah.
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  How did how did you feel when you saw the rocket go up?
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  Oh my God, it was like my my net worth was going up on a on a
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  rocket. My, I invited my friend out and
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  my my pitch to him because he wasn't as bought in as I was.
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  But I was like, you know, like if you're there and something
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  goes wrong, you could probably front run the entire market.
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  So. Right.
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  So that was my pitch to him because he wasn't as bought in
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  as I was. But yeah, it was, it was a
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  really cool experience, right? Well let me ask you this.
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  So how many people do you think own chairs because of your you
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  know, you evangelize and guess you know the the story?
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  Well, I actually have a separate group chat of my friends locally
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  and yeah, there are a total of 2020 people now.
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  Oh wow, where? Oh, I just, I just sort of blast
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  news to them whenever it comes out.
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  A lot of them sort of just bought because, you know, like
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  they trust me and and they're like, oh, if he's this bullish
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  about something, maybe it's worth buying.
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  So. Right, Right.
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  Yeah. Well, cool.
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  Well, well, thanks. Thanks for coming out.
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  Justin, I, I do remember, yeah, you sharing your, your story
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  about your moment of clarity at, at being at a concert.
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  So I guess it it comes to us all in different ways, right?
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  Totally. Yeah.
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  Well, yeah, let's move on to the next person.
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  If you're done, you can like move or I can move it back down.
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  But there was someone actually who wanted me to ask Nick Brown
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  to to come up and speak. So, Nick, do you want to mute
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  Nick? Can you hear me?
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  Yeah. Hey, Nick.
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  Yeah. Mimi, maybe.
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  Thanks for coming up. Maybe if you could share your
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  background, I mean, as much as you want and then how you
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  learned about AST and then share and experience a a story.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Let's see.
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  So I'm a firefighter over in Seattle.
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  Excuse me? And during COVID, I kind of
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  started getting into investing and was listening to a lot of
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  podcasts. And it started off kind of as a
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  valued investor and was kind of getting impatient with that, to
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  be honest. So you just explored some
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  options and explored some other things and realized that that
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  was probably not the wise wisest plan.
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  So instead I decided I was listening to a bunch of guys
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  that were that were investors that would take a lot of
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  concentrated positions, some speculative plays, some some not
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  so speculative, but something that resonated with me was, you
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  know, concentrated positions build wealth and then once
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  you're wealthy, got to diversify.
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  So anyway, I was browsing a ton of subreddits at the time and
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  listened to a lot of podcasts. I just over and over I just kept
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  hearing as TS get mentioned as this amazing binary play.
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  So that piqued my interest. I was kind of sort of
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  discovering my style as an investor, I guess, and, and just
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  go pretty deep into into this company.
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  And the more I read, I know that, you know, Kim Mcas touched
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  on this and of course you guys have to, but the more you learn
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  about this company, just the more you want to invest.
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  So, yeah, it's actually pretty funny.
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  I was, I was supposed to be paying for a wedding at the
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  time. So I took out a couple of credit
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  cards to pay all the vendors and, and was putting all my
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  spare cash in the ASTS shares instead.
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  So this is OK. So what, what what year was
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  that? Does it 2021?
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  Oh dear. OK, yeah.
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  So, so I, I definitely have this has been to hell and back Yeah.
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  But I think I just kind of maintained, maintained cautious
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  optimism. And like I said, you know what
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  kind of the more I learned, the more I loved.
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  And I actually we don't have 4 O1 KS as firefighters.
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  We have, we're called 457 BS. I'm sure you guys are all
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  familiar with those, but they'll give you a ton of freedom with
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  what you can invest in. You can.
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  Get to have. A couple of mutual fund options
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  and and the old Vanguard and that kind of stuff.
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  So I was, I went for the self-directed option, but even
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  then through Schwab and they still had restrictions on single
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  stock sales. So I said, OK, so how, how can I
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  figure this out here? So I was like, all right, I'm
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  going to take a loan out of my 457 B.
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  So I, I took out 50K out of my retirement fund.
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  Oh man, on top of all the, the extra cash, I was trying.
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  OK, wait, so you, you, you paid for wedding stuff on credit
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  cards and then you took out money from your, you took a loan
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  against your retirement account, which you'd probably have to pay
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  like some market rate? Interest.
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  Yeah, so that you could put into a regular account to invest.
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  Yeah. OK, I'm saying this out loud and
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  I'm sure everyone's rolling their eyes and no, no, you're
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  probably, I mean, I, I, I hear where you're coming from, but
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  OK, keep going. Yeah.
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  So, yeah, So yeah, you know, obviously I'm fairly levered at
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  this point and I I am very much emotionally invested in both the
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  stock price and the competent. But I think it was just this one
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  of those things where I had just been so into it for so long.
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  And, and listening to you guys and Pam and Kook and and Cassie
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  and just a level of and conviction and, and due
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  diligence kind of allowed me to ride those waves, which was was
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  some of those pretty cool. So I appreciate you for that
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  first and foremost and the rest of the guys too.
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  And then of course, of course, they went through the, you know,
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  the the funding and then the dilution 2 minutes later.
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  That was probably one of the biggest gut punches in my life.
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  Yeah. You're talking about when the
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  company announced the investment from Vodafone, AT&T and Google.
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  Everyone was like, yeah. And the stock went to like $566.
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  And then they're like, and we're going to raise $100 million of
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  equity. Yes.
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  And then it it crater to like 3. Yes.
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  Yeah. That was that was definitely
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  quite the gut punch. Yeah.
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  It was pretty terrible. It was.
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  And at that point I'd kind of been pitching it to a lot of
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  family and friends too. And so man, oh, man, did I feel
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  stupid. But I still, you know, I was
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  still. I remember Kook came out with a
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  he came out with a Twitter post. It was Twitter at the time, I
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  think. I don't think it was X Quoi yet.
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  He came out with the most basically saying like, hey, do
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  you guys want me to keep going or should I just that kind of
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  out in the woods for a while? It was in dark days, Yeah, yeah,
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  there was super supportive. Of course we we appreciate it as
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  DD regardless. So yeah.
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  So I mean Long story short, then you had to ride that for a while
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  and then they came out with the with the AT&T definitive
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  agreement after that one earnings call and I was just an
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  officer races since. So yeah, I went from levered,
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  stressing, obviously overexposed to a multi millionaire, but what
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  was that? Congratulations.
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  So what was that like? I mean, your did your fiance
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  have any clue what was going on? Yeah, yeah, I kept her updated.
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  I don't think I I sort of downplayed it a little bit.
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  I didn't quite, I didn't tell her I like to call it fancy
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  financing. I had to tell her some of the
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  fancy financing I was doing. But she knew that we're
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  definitely pretty deep into it. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I bet. Emotionally, she could, she
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  could tell like if you were a crabby one day or not, Right.
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  Oh, for sure. Yeah.
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  It's like, is it a red, a red day or a Green Day?
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  Yeah. But yeah.
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  So it's been life changing at this point.
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  I've had a couple kids during this whole saga and just knowing
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  that their lives are going to be changed as well.
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  It's pretty cool. And I got a couple Co workers in
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  my my Lieutenant actually has made about 40K.
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  My dad's a millionaire now. My brother bought about 12,000
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  shares. He close to a millionaire.
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  So it's been wild. Yeah, it's been absolutely.
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  Well, congratulations. I'm glad.
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  I'm glad it worked out for all of us.
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  I won't be doing that. Again.
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  But it was, it's been a rowdy, yeah, yeah, no, it's, yeah, I, I
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  think we all, I mean, to varying degrees, right?
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  But we all went through that or a lot of us went through that
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  period of time, which was like when you mentioned Kook putting
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  that tweet out saying, you know, should I keep going or should I
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  just need this account? And, and this is basically, you
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  know, a sorry note, which of course I, I feel bad because I
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  like, I felt personally responsible, right?
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  Because I, I had conviction and of course I, I invested too, but
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  then the stock, the, you know, the investment didn't work out
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  at that point. And I remember tweeting out as
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  well, like, hey, I'm sorry everyone, but I'm for better for
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  us. I'm sticking to it because I, I
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  believe in it. And fortunately, a few months
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  later, we got bailed out. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I was definitely wild. But like I said, I mean,
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  absolutely, totally grateful for you guys and the level of
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  knowledge that that came from from everyone in the mob.
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  Yeah, it's a it's a unique, a unique group.
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  You know, it's, I think it's, it's cool to hear like people
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  from all walks of life and you know, there's, there's
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  contributors. And I was, I was just talking to
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  someone the other day about how in those early days it was,
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  there was a high level of responsibility that many of us
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  felt. Because, you know, it's like, I
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  need to keep posting everyday about this or kind of remind
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  people about the investment because, you know, it was hard
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  to hold back then. And and then now Fast forward to
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  current time, there's so many people like, you know, like
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  Tanner and Kevin Chan and just all these new people who are
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  posting, which makes life a lot easier, easier in a, in a sense
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  of like, OK, I don't one person doesn't have to be the end all
• 22:29
  for everything. It's like, oh, everyone's kind
• 22:31
  of carrying water. Like red Brum posts, like, you
• 22:34
  know, the, the the spaces for everyone.
• 22:38
  And then he has a merch shop. And then like I see spectator
• 22:42
  down there doing great due diligence.
• 22:45
  But but yeah, it's great. It's great that community's so
• 22:48
  big. Yeah, You're not, you're not the
• 22:50
  kind of final buck, right. There's there's some other
• 22:52
  people that kind of share the load a little bit.
• 22:54
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:55
  Yeah. That's awesome.
• 22:57
  Well, hey, Nick, thanks for thanks for coming up and sharing
• 22:59
  that. That's I'm, I'm sure that's a
• 23:02
  story. Your your story's not unique,
• 23:04
  but, but it certainly is. It is exceptional,
• 23:08
  extraordinary. That's great.
• 23:10
  Thank you. I appreciate it.
• 23:11
  Yeah. Well, much love to you guys and
• 23:13
  I hope to see you at a launch very soon.
• 23:15
  Yeah, I think, I mean hopefully like I was saying before, we'll,
• 23:19
  we'll, we'll get they'll organize something and maybe
• 23:23
  we'll be seeing each other in Cape Canaveral sometime at the
• 23:28
  end of January or probably 1st of February, 1st week of
• 23:31
  February, that's my guess. But but yeah, looking forward
• 23:33
  to. It.
• 23:34
  That'll be awesome. Cool.
• 23:36
  Thanks for sharing. All right.
• 23:37
  Yeah, You bet. We'll talk to you.
• 23:39
  Talk to you later. All right, let's see.
• 23:41
  Let's get RMA. Do you want to unmute RMA?
• 23:46
  You still there? I.
• 23:48
  Am here can you? Hear me?
• 23:49
  Yeah. How's it going?
• 23:52
  It's going well. I appreciate you.
• 23:54
  Yeah, I know. I appreciate you too.
• 23:56
  I have no idea. You have no idea.
• 23:59
  How's it going? Do you want?
• 24:00
  To give us a little bit of your background and how you you got
• 24:04
  became part of this crazy mob. You invited me to.
• 24:08
  Speak approximately 3 years ago and I was blocked or I block
• 24:16
  someone. I think that's what you said.
• 24:18
  This is one of. My first ever speaking endeavors
• 24:23
  here on this platform but. Let me just tell you, I've.
• 24:28
  Been an investor since the 90s back in and and I'll try to keep
• 24:35
  this quick and precise. You can stop me at any time.
• 24:44
  I was on. StockTwits, if you guys can
• 24:48
  remember Investor 777, that was me the the guy that was driving
• 24:53
  everyone nuts. I was an SPCE.
• 24:59
  And. Because.
• 25:00
  Of I would say I was fairly successful at that stock, but
• 25:07
  when Shamath Paula Hopatiya, if that's his name.
• 25:12
  Him and. Sir Richard Branson, they, they
• 25:15
  kind of got under my skin because I was notice, noticing
• 25:20
  how they were manipulating that stock.
• 25:24
  And every time it had. An opportunity to take off, they
• 25:28
  would just rug pull us. So I gave up on that and went
• 25:34
  into Red Wire and Planet Labs. If you guys can.
• 25:38
  Remember back then, what really drew me in was a few people were
• 25:44
  asking me to take a look at ASTS.
• 25:48
  Well, before ASTS we had this SPAC.
• 25:53
  Now, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but was that not NPA?
• 25:57
  Yeah, it was NPA. OK.
• 25:59
  I was going back and forth and I was trading it because of the
• 26:04
  volatility. Now one of my first investments
• 26:09
  in ASTS, if you guys could forgive me, I started shorting
• 26:16
  it and the reason I started shorting it is because there.
• 26:21
  Were a lot of people. That kept posting on Fridays
• 26:24
  those pictures of you know, the the.
• 26:27
  Ladies that were oh. Yeah, on stock toilets.
• 26:30
  I remember that. So on and so forth.
• 26:32
  Well, that really got me upset. Yeah.
• 26:34
  I I'm a true believer of the Lord.
• 26:37
  I love God, right? I see.
• 26:38
  I see. I felt.
• 26:40
  Horrible for these people, yeah. I was praying for.
• 26:44
  You guys, all, everyone that was involved in that, by the way, I,
• 26:48
  I was not. Involved in that, Just want to
• 26:50
  be, yeah. OK, sorry, I, I don't mean to
• 26:52
  say you personally, but many, many people.
• 26:56
  Well, let let's be clear that. StockTwits is kind of like it's
• 27:01
  it's, it's a zoo. It's a complete zoo.
• 27:04
  Yeah. Yes, Sir.
• 27:06
  Yes, Sir, So what? Happened after that.
• 27:10
  Is I started doing my due diligence, I started following
• 27:14
  you and Kook and Katsy and I really started to realize what
• 27:21
  an incredible company. So I took all of my funds from
• 27:27
  SPCE and some of the other gains.
• 27:31
  Not that I put all my funds in and but I started building a
• 27:35
  position as it came down. When it got down to around $3.60
• 27:42
  I actually went all in. And I started.
• 27:47
  To what did I do at that time? I just, I was posting every day.
• 27:53
  I was trying to get people to notice this company when it was
• 27:59
  in the twos. I believe that's when Katzie
• 28:02
  said you would be a fool not to, and I'm just paraphrasing.
• 28:09
  You'd be a fool not. To invest in this company and I
• 28:13
  agreed with him and when it was down to around $2.30, I started
• 28:20
  selling other stocks and buying it and at some point I can
• 28:24
  almost guarantee you I had more shares than Goldman Sachs that.
• 28:29
  I can. Guarantee you by the way, when?
• 28:31
  When? Katzie makes proclamations like
• 28:34
  that. It's very rare like the I think
• 28:35
  there's been like 3 or. Four times when he's.
• 28:38
  Actually come out and said it's time to buy call options and
• 28:43
  it's actually worked every single time.
• 28:44
  But but he's not, he's not someone to push people into risk
• 28:48
  unless, yeah. There there's.
• 28:51
  There's something there, so, but go ahead.
• 28:53
  Sorry. Yeah, so.
• 28:55
  Everyone that knows me pretty much knows who I actually invest
• 29:01
  in. This is one of the biggest
• 29:04
  investments I've ever made in my life and I'm so grateful for it.
• 29:09
  I. Asked a question.
• 29:10
  At a quarterly meeting to Abel and I just posted it maybe an
• 29:16
  hour ago and it was, you know, basically just asking if Mr.
• 29:22
  Abel Avalon ever really considered in his visions that
• 29:26
  he's given us the opportunity as believers to be able to reach
• 29:31
  everyone around the globe. I am I I saw that years ago and
• 29:37
  that's what really hooked me. I, I prayed about it.
• 29:41
  I've would you know? Follow.
• 29:44
  This stock and and everything you guys said and I just fell in
• 29:48
  love with it Now to make it just clear here, the shorts are going
• 29:55
  to fund this. That's that's my trademark.
• 29:59
  They will fund. This, well, they have.
• 30:02
  You have been. That's right.
• 30:04
  They have been, I've been, I've been selling puts to them for
• 30:09
  now a few years and I still sell put.
• 30:13
  My last puts that I sold were on I think Thursday.
• 30:18
  I was selling $75 puts. What was the price at 67?
• 30:24
  Yeah, I think that's right. Something like that.
• 30:27
  And I, I just kept saying thank you, Merry Christmas, thank you.
• 30:32
  Now. People to this.
• 30:34
  Day. Probably there's a lot that have
• 30:36
  blocked me, can't stand me. It's OK, I don't do this for
• 30:40
  myself. The ultimate goal that I have is
• 30:46
  to be used by God. I was considered, and I'll share
• 30:52
  this, I've been considered physically disabled due to a
• 30:59
  spinal injury many years ago. There is something God's doing
• 31:05
  not only for myself, but for everyone involved here.
• 31:09
  The the A. Stands for.
• 31:11
  Something if you go back to when Steve.
• 31:18
  Steve. I believe.
• 31:19
  Me and Steve spoke a couple times and someone asked him why
• 31:24
  he doesn't put an A in his name. And they asked me.
• 31:28
  If I would respond to that. And I says, well, you know, it's
• 31:31
  up to him if you want to put an A or not.
• 31:34
  And I called him Sir. And he said to me, don't call me
• 31:38
  Sir, my name's Steve. And I laughed.
• 31:42
  You know, I just want to be respectful to everybody, to be
• 31:45
  honest with you. And here in the end, I'll cut
• 31:49
  this off. I'll let someone else speak.
• 31:51
  But everyone needs to realize there's going to be billions of
• 31:56
  future investors in this company.
• 31:59
  We are so early. Everyone just know that.
• 32:04
  The shorts are. Going to fund this, I want to
• 32:08
  thank everyone for, you know, just supporting each other.
• 32:12
  I think the company they're, they're an incredible company
• 32:16
  and they have such incredible partners and employees and, and
• 32:21
  just counselors and you name it. So this company will be a, a
• 32:27
  world renowned known name in the future.
• 32:31
  That's all I could say. I thank God for all things and
• 32:36
  without him, none of this is ever going to work.
• 32:39
  So he's allowing it to happen. Just remember, Jesus saves and
• 32:47
  don't forget about those who are poor and needy because we are
• 32:51
  their neighbors and God has blessed you.
• 32:54
  So bless those that you can and thank you for this opportunity
• 32:59
  to speak, man, Thank you. Thanks for coming up.
• 33:02
  Yeah. And those are yes, Sir, there's
• 33:03
  a wise words like I think, I think we all are blessed.
• 33:06
  And especially heading into this end of year, I think it's a good
• 33:11
  time to reflect and be thankful. And to the extent you have the
• 33:16
  means to, you know, to to think about the less fortunate.
• 33:21
  And and I've talked about donating to charity.
• 33:24
  And actually I was I was thinking of potentially doing a
• 33:26
  space about that. But but yeah, something to
• 33:30
  consider. But thanks for coming up are me.
• 33:33
  Amen. I appreciate.
• 33:35
  You thanks. Let's see, let's.
• 33:38
  Bring up farm Dazz. See.
• 33:41
  What? Everybody.
• 33:42
  Always. Says Farm Dazz, Farm DAZ, Farm
• 33:44
  DAZ. How's it going, man?
• 33:46
  Because I'm from Arizona. I'm good Amp.
• 33:47
  How are you, buddy? Good.
• 33:48
  Hey. So do you want to give us a
• 33:50
  little bit about your background and tell us how you got involved
• 33:53
  and then maybe share an experience?
• 33:56
  Yeah, absolutely. First of all, thank you for
• 33:58
  hosting these spaces. It's it's a highlight of my
• 34:01
  week. Highlights of my week.
• 34:02
  And thanks to everybody that shared so far really cool
• 34:05
  stories and I hope Corey. If you're.
• 34:08
  Listening, you'll come up at some point because your story's
• 34:10
  really cool too, I. Have multiple.
• 34:13
  Brokerages, one of the brokerages I had, the accounts
• 34:15
  that I have, it was strictly for biotech investing.
• 34:19
  I'm a clinical pharmacist by trade.
• 34:20
  I'm specialized in geriatric medicine and early on in my
• 34:23
  career I was involved with some clinical trials.
• 34:25
  So I, I thought, well, I can get ahead of these medications and
• 34:29
  these new drugs on the market, invest in these companies and
• 34:32
  make a butt ton of money. And, and that worked for quite a
• 34:34
  while until it didn't. I was really big in Viking
• 34:39
  Therapeutics. And woke up 1.
• 34:42
  Morning and had gone way way up on some oral data that was
• 34:45
  released and I said OK great I'm going to take all that money and
• 34:48
  but at that time the AMC and the GME 2 point O was running wild
• 34:53
  and I said well I don't take all that money and try to make it
• 34:56
  triple quadruple on AMC and Jamie and we all know what
• 35:00
  happened there they tanked so I I lost literally everything
• 35:03
  literally everything that I had gained like sat on for five
• 35:06
  years and I. Kept seeing.
• 35:08
  ASTS on my feed, I think is, is Handel's MWM.
• 35:12
  He's a buddy of mine. And we, we always, we always
• 35:15
  share trade ideas. And anyways, he kept talking
• 35:18
  about it. And so I was like, I'll look
• 35:19
  into it, you know, and I was, I was in that 5 minutes of DD
• 35:22
  camp. I would, I would read a couple
• 35:24
  things and then I always came to conclusion, but Starlink.
• 35:27
  So I didn't invest. And then I started to watch your
• 35:30
  guys's stock go absolutely ape shit and I had a bunch of bunch
• 35:34
  of FOMO. And I think I've shared this
• 35:36
  before. My first purchase I think was
• 35:38
  like $36, but I was like, OK, well, if.
• 35:42
  I. Own this now I better start
• 35:43
  doing my research because I'm either going to sell it quickly
• 35:45
  or I'm going to keep accumulating, you know shares
• 35:47
  and I I was lucky to find you I was lucky to find kook start
• 35:52
  reading the the. The.
• 35:53
  Documents and everything and my as the price started coming off
• 35:56
  the 36 level and back down to like I think it was like 18, the
• 35:59
  prices came yeah, the the price started coming down, but my
• 36:02
  conviction was getting higher and higher every single day.
• 36:05
  So I really started averaging down.
• 36:06
  So it was really nice in that regard, but I just want.
• 36:10
  To share a couple of funny. Stories So I, I, I, I have a
• 36:13
  pretty big social network and that's not to be braggadocious.
• 36:17
  I've gotten a lot of a lot of people into the stock multiple,
• 36:20
  multiple 7 figures worth of money.
• 36:23
  And it's that's, that's responsibility, by the way.
• 36:27
  It is. It is.
• 36:28
  It is super. Annoying because I'm getting
• 36:29
  texts and phone calls all the time and they they think I'm
• 36:32
  just like guru investor and I'm like little do they know I'm
• 36:35
  just basically you know parroting everything you guys
• 36:37
  say everyday so there was one day Corey and I are are friends
• 36:44
  outside of this and well we became friends because of this
• 36:46
  but. We were chatting.
• 36:48
  One day and it was, it was a couple months ago and this is
• 36:51
  the stock price was up big down big up big down big, big.
• 36:55
  And I texted Corey and I said Corey, I said I have a tattoo
• 36:58
  appointment this weekend and I had a tattoo in mind.
• 37:01
  And I said if we finish green today, I'm going to get an AST
• 37:05
  space mobile satellite tattoo on my leg.
• 37:08
  And it it did. It it had a run.
• 37:10
  Towards the end of the day and it finished, I think it was just
• 37:12
  over like 50 or something like that.
• 37:13
  I don't know, Corey might remember.
• 37:14
  But yeah, so I went that Saturday and I got that tattoo
• 37:17
  and it was, it was a lot of fun. So that in and of itself is a
• 37:20
  conversation starter. I was having launched in Phoenix
• 37:24
  the other day and I was sitting next to this couple and they
• 37:26
  asked me what I did. And I said, well, I'm a
• 37:27
  pharmacist and I also invest. And they said, oh, what are you
• 37:30
  invested in? So I was telling them, oh, I'm
• 37:31
  so excited about this stock. And I was telling them all about
• 37:33
  it. So we talked for like 20 minutes
• 37:35
  and they're like, wow, you seem really convicted.
• 37:37
  And I said, and I showed them the website so they could see an
• 37:40
  actual picture of the satellite. And then I pointed down to my
• 37:42
  leg and the, the look on their face was just hilarious.
• 37:45
  Crazy. It's time to leave.
• 37:47
  Yeah, Yeah, He's either crazy or he's really, he really has that
• 37:49
  much conviction. So that was that was a really,
• 37:52
  it was just, it's, it's, it's just been a really fun
• 37:54
  experience. I've been an investor, investor
• 37:56
  for a long time and I've never been in a stock like this in a
• 37:59
  community like this. It's just there's something
• 38:01
  very, very unique about it. So win or lose, I don't care.
• 38:04
  I've learned so much. I've had such a fun time doing
• 38:07
  this. And yeah, shout out to Corey.
• 38:11
  He and I are both in our fantasy football championship if he can
• 38:15
  just finish up his win this week.
• 38:16
  So good luck, Corey, and maybe you'll come up and Share your
• 38:19
  story. Thanks, Amp.
• 38:20
  How did you So how did you meet Corey?
• 38:22
  Because Corey, he lives in a different state, right?
• 38:25
  Yeah, he had. He had.
• 38:26
  Messaged me on. So it's kind of funny he had
• 38:28
  messed because I like my anonymity.
• 38:30
  He had messaged me. On.
• 38:32
  On X or two, I think it was Twitter the time.
• 38:33
  And he said are you a pharmacist?
• 38:35
  And I said yeah. And he got, you know, asked me
• 38:37
  where I work when my name was this.
• 38:38
  I don't feel comfortable, you know, telling you all that I
• 38:40
  kind of like to keep private. And then I and I started reading
• 38:43
  this too tonight. It's a pretty funny guy.
• 38:44
  So we started talking exchange exchange phone numbers, play
• 38:47
  Call of Duty. We just play Call of Duty
• 38:48
  together. I invited in my fantasy Football
• 38:51
  League. We taxed all the time.
• 38:52
  He's a he's a really great guy super cool.
• 38:54
  And so it'll be cool if two pharmacists can make it out of
• 38:57
  that life. Yeah, yeah.
• 38:59
  No, I, I refer to you guys as a as a pharmacist.
• 39:02
  So yeah, you guys got. To cover it for.
• 39:05
  Sure. But again, AMP, thank you for.
• 39:07
  Everything you guys do, you, you spend a lot of time on this and
• 39:10
  it always, you always seem to do a space when I'm working like
• 39:13
  the tail end of a shift. So it's perfect.
• 39:14
  It's like when I'm when I'm ass tired, you come on like get this
• 39:18
  bolt of energy. So it's great.
• 39:20
  Well, I'm I'm glad I can provide some entertainment.
• 39:23
  Yeah, absolutely. Thanks again for having me.
• 39:25
  I appreciate it. Well, there's a few other
• 39:26
  people, but I since Corey's up. But maybe I guess this is a an
• 39:30
  easy segue. Corey, did you?
• 39:32
  Are you there? Hey, what's going on?
• 39:35
  Hey of. Course I'm bringing you live.
• 39:38
  Sorry, I'm a little sick. Too you are?
• 39:40
  Well, yeah. But.
• 39:42
  Maybe you? Can start.
• 39:43
  Off by telling. People, if they haven't seen
• 39:46
  your Wall Street bets like video yes so.
• 39:50
  And 1st, I just want to, I do want to clarify only message
• 39:53
  Farmdas. I'm going to call him Farmdas,
• 39:55
  but only for fee picks. But he didn't, he didn't
• 39:58
  cooperate. So but but yeah.
• 40:01
  So I don't know if people have seen the Wall Street Bets video.
• 40:04
  I didn't add no. No association with.
• 40:07
  I actually got messaged from one of the space mob members
• 40:10
  because. I mean, for those that don't
• 40:12
  know, there's this and I'll pick it up and I'll tweet it again,
• 40:15
  but there's like this really long.
• 40:18
  I don't know what kind of show it is, but they did.
• 40:19
  I'll yeah, I'll make it. Quick because it's like a roller
• 40:22
  coaster. So essentially I've always been
• 40:25
  a Wall Street Bets D Gen. everyone plans on or wants to,
• 40:30
  you know, become a multi millionaire off of a of a stock.
• 40:33
  They want to find the next NVIDIA, they want to find the
• 40:35
  next Apple. So you know, I've got you know,
• 40:38
  I was in bed bath and beyond thought I could make some money
• 40:42
  on that. Wound up losing $40,000 was in
• 40:45
  Bitcoin, all this stuff. So essentially what I did is I
• 40:48
  maxed out my credit cards $60,000, which I don't advise
• 40:53
  people doing. And I originally started buying
• 40:57
  Bitcoin in April of 2022. I believe I, I bought a total of
• 41:03
  three Bitcoin using $60,000 from credit card loans that I was
• 41:07
  paying around like $3000 a month in payments.
• 41:11
  So I had to pick up shifts, work extra days, all this crazy stuff
• 41:16
  that I don't advise to do. You had just graduated.
• 41:18
  From pharmacy school, right? I actually I graduated.
• 41:21
  In 2017. So I've been trying to make it
• 41:25
  out of pharmacy the day I graduated because it's, you
• 41:29
  know, it's, it's pretty boring, pretty monotonous.
• 41:31
  It's not that glamorous as a, as a farm, Farm Arizona says.
• 41:36
  So I've been trying to get out of the rat race ever since.
• 41:41
  So I was just driving down the road one day.
• 41:44
  I'm like, you know, I need to like be a little bit more risky
• 41:46
  with my bets because if I dollar cost average into the Vanguard
• 41:51
  total stock market index, I'll, I'll never do it.
• 41:54
  And that's when I had like an epiphany, like, well, you know,
• 41:57
  I'm just going to try and use leverage and see if that'll
• 42:00
  speed things up. Well, I got involved with
• 42:02
  Bitcoin. As soon as I started buying into
• 42:05
  that, it tanked. I mean, I'm sure people
• 42:08
  remember, I think it was June of 22, it tanked down to like
• 42:12
  $15,000 and I just put like almost $100,000 into this so,
• 42:18
  and I'm still making payments. I'm feeling like shit.
• 42:21
  I'm like, what have I done? Like I've just set myself back,
• 42:23
  you know, I don't know how many years.
• 42:26
  And that's also when Bed Bath and Beyond I think was going on
• 42:30
  as well. So I got involved with both
• 42:32
  Bitcoin at the lows, Bed Bath and Beyond when it hit
• 42:35
  bankruptcy. So I was like in a really crazy
• 42:37
  space. I actually found out about ASTS
• 42:41
  from just browsing Wall Street Bets one night, trying to make
• 42:44
  my money back off of all these stupid plays that I have done.
• 42:48
  So I'm like, there's surely got to be another way to like
• 42:50
  another play. So I browsed and there's this.
• 42:55
  And you know how many crappy posts and terrible like takes
• 42:59
  there are on Wall Street Bets? And I just stumbled across this
• 43:02
  meme. I think it was like Interstellar
• 43:04
  where it said like this one small maneuver is going to send
• 43:08
  me back, you know, I don't know, 65 years or whatever it is so.
• 43:13
  I was like, what? Is this stock ASTS?
• 43:15
  Well, that led me was that I think, I don't know if you did
• 43:18
  the meme or someone, somebody else did, but it was like.
• 43:21
  This, this, this maneuver is going to set back my retirement
• 43:24
  account by seven years exactly. So I'm like.
• 43:27
  Well, I'm already set back, you know, 10 years.
• 43:29
  What's another 65, right? So, so led me down to ASTS in
• 43:35
  the the subreddit. Well, then I start digging
• 43:38
  deeper and reading the Cooke report and reading your due
• 43:41
  diligence. I think you had made a post on
• 43:43
  the subreddit and that's when there was only like 5000 users,
• 43:45
  maybe less than that. I read it and I'm like, this is
• 43:48
  too good to be true. This is the next big thing.
• 43:51
  Like, how is no one involved in this?
• 43:53
  And this was right when they were about to launch Blue Walker
• 43:56
  Three. I think it was $10 a share or
• 43:58
  something like that. So I used the little money that
• 44:01
  I had bought 2500 shares. As soon as they launched the
• 44:05
  satellite, the stock tanked. And I was like, you've got to be
• 44:09
  kidding me. So, I mean, I was just like,
• 44:11
  well, I'm in it. So whatever.
• 44:13
  The next year went around, you know, I think someone else
• 44:16
  mentioned they'd announced the Google thing.
• 44:19
  I was super excited for one minute, and then they did the
• 44:21
  dilution again. So I was like, you know, And
• 44:24
  then in April, during the business update, they announced
• 44:26
  the delay. I remember like it was yesterday
• 44:29
  your post saying, hey, I'm sorry, everyone for losing
• 44:32
  money. That's on me.
• 44:34
  And I'm not gonna lie. I sold out of my 25 shares or
• 44:38
  2500 shares at the time. Yeah.
• 44:40
  And yeah. And I was like, well, I'm just
• 44:42
  gonna cut it. But then I had like this really
• 44:45
  crazy gut feeling like if this takes off, I would never live,
• 44:50
  be able to live with myself because I'd spent almost two
• 44:53
  years, you know, researching Katz's due diligence, kooks,
• 44:57
  daily updates, your daily due diligence, all this stuff.
• 45:01
  And I knew there was something there because Katz kept pushing
• 45:04
  information. I remember like he was getting
• 45:07
  satellite or I'm sorry, frequencies from the first net
• 45:10
  usage satellites, crazy stuff. So like, well, you know what?
• 45:14
  I'm just, I'm just gonna do it. So funny thing happened.
• 45:18
  I sold my bitcoins. The Bitcoin finally took off.
• 45:22
  It finally hit like this stop limit.
• 45:24
  I got stopped out of my Bitcoin. Felt terrible.
• 45:28
  But I'm like, well, you know what?
• 45:29
  I'm gonna move it all to ASTS and the rest is history.
• 45:31
  So what did you buy back? What price was that I?
• 45:35
  Actually went all in. Around $2.00 and like $0.50 or
• 45:39
  something like that. So yeah, and I just held and you
• 45:43
  know, with your due diligence and Katsi and Kook and Kevin
• 45:48
  Chan and everyone, now it's just like this is a once in a
• 45:52
  lifetime stock. This is not something to trade.
• 45:55
  This is something you buy, forget about and don't think
• 45:58
  about it because I think it is the next NVIDIA, next Apple,
• 46:01
  next Amazon. Don't touch it.
• 46:04
  Like RMA said, we are so early. It's pretty amazing how like
• 46:08
  lucky we are to be able to find this.
• 46:10
  And for me to find it on a whim of a meme is just like
• 46:14
  incredible, you know what I mean?
• 46:15
  And then I know of all the stories, I'm sure you've heard
• 46:19
  them. They're all in Reddit, how
• 46:20
  people sold at the bottom, never got a chance to buy back in and
• 46:25
  it they got priced out. So yeah, it's just we're so
• 46:29
  lucky to be in this position. And I've messaged you many
• 46:33
  times. I want to, I always, I just want
• 46:35
  to say thank you for changing my life because I mean, it's, it's
• 46:39
  unreal now. Like, you know, it's moved
• 46:41
  retirement up to many, many years now.
• 46:44
  And we're just so early in the in the process.
• 46:47
  So want to thank you guys. But yeah, this is a great
• 46:50
  community and hopefully someone else could share their story.
• 46:53
  But shout out to Farm Arizona as well.
• 46:57
  He's a great guy. I've met a whole bunch of
• 46:58
  people. Can't wait to meet everyone at
• 47:00
  the Cape as well, so hopefully everyone can make it too.
• 47:02
  Yeah, yeah, I, I think. Corey, you met up with Tut
• 47:05
  before too, right? I did meet up with Tut.
• 47:07
  Tut is a cool dude. He's actually, he's actually a
• 47:10
  mummy. He's actually a mummy.
• 47:12
  You guys are out, out and then? You guys almost got shot or
• 47:15
  something, right? We almost got.
• 47:17
  Shot. But we are good.
• 47:18
  We were in the bad parts of town, but we survived to live
• 47:22
  another day. And, yeah, he's a really cool
• 47:25
  dude. Cool.
• 47:26
  Down to earth, much cool. You know, he's the man.
• 47:28
  So everyone, everyone's awesome. But yeah, like, it's been a
• 47:32
  great ride. And, you know, there's no more.
• 47:35
  How's your little space stock doing?
• 47:37
  I've tried pitching it. And I was made fun of.
• 47:40
  I was written off. And now people will text me out
• 47:42
  of the blue. Are you still holding?
• 47:44
  Are you still holding? And, you know, I've been like,
• 47:47
  yeah, yeah, I haven't sold so, but yeah, it's, it's, it's been
• 47:51
  unreal. Never in a million years would
• 47:53
  have thought this would ever happen to me, 'cause everyone
• 47:56
  wants to be the Wall Street Bets, you know, or one of months
• 47:59
  to find that winner early, you know, and we, we basically have,
• 48:03
  we have the, the golden ticket and you just got to hold on to
• 48:06
  it. So well, yeah.
• 48:07
  Thanks for sharing. Man, yeah, it's thank you.
• 48:10
  If you could post post your the video.
• 48:14
  It's quite entertaining. I've slipped on basketball at
• 48:17
  game. I, I will say maybe it was like
• 48:20
  2021-2022. I remember at that time Kook and
• 48:25
  I were talking amongst a few other people and we, we were
• 48:29
  doing our darnedest to try to get more people, you know,
• 48:33
  exposed to AST. And of course, like we, we made
• 48:37
  some pretty funny posts on Wall Street pets and we posted
• 48:40
  positions, did all kinds of stupid things just to try to get
• 48:43
  like people aware. And then of course we would be
• 48:45
  like, Oh, you guys are, you guys are pumping and dumping.
• 48:47
  It's like, OK, I guess technically we are pumping, but
• 48:50
  we're not dumping if anything but the.
• 48:53
  Funny thing. Is now if you try to put the
• 48:55
  ASTS ticker on Wall Street bets they won't let you.
• 48:58
  It's automatically banned, so they group it as a meme stock,
• 49:03
  which is insane. So if you ever go there, no one
• 49:05
  can even post their games. It's still under.
• 49:07
  I mean, it's I guess the most talked about ticker still, but
• 49:11
  if you try to post games or things like that, they won't let
• 49:13
  you. So yeah, we had to navigate.
• 49:15
  Back then we had to navigate all these overzealous mods who you
• 49:20
  had to be friends with them and then you had to convince them to
• 49:24
  keep your post up. And then, and then after a
• 49:27
  while, like I think in 2023, we just kind of gave up on that.
• 49:30
  But but it was but yeah, we, we did our best to try to educate
• 49:34
  people on on the name and, and from time to time I and even to
• 49:39
  this day, like there's people who post about it there.
• 49:41
  But, but that is fine. I mean, at least it worked.
• 49:44
  It got you or somebody, it got you Well, and then there was
• 49:46
  times. In the ASTS subreddit, Pete,
• 49:48
  there was so little people there in the chat that you would reply
• 49:51
  to your own comment like you know, then now it's like you
• 49:55
  know, up to 1000 comments a day. So the the story has definitely
• 49:59
  changed. So but I'll let someone else
• 50:00
  talk. I don't want to keep running and
• 50:02
  rambling so but I appreciate you and Pam.
• 50:03
  Thank you so much, ma'am. Thanks ma'am.
• 50:05
  Let's. See I.
• 50:06
  Know maybe William, do you want to go next?
• 50:09
  You've been waiting patiently. Hey, yeah, how's?
• 50:12
  It going what's up? Can you?
• 50:13
  Hear me? Yeah, we can hear.
• 50:15
  You awesome. Thanks for doing.
• 50:16
  This great stories. I'll keep it brief, but I'm a
• 50:22
  physician in my first few years of my career.
• 50:25
  We got quite a few of you and yeah.
• 50:28
  I don't know how that. Happened.
• 50:30
  I stay away from medically related stocks so this has been
• 50:34
  a blessing. But yeah, most of my time
• 50:38
  holding AST been during my training before medical school
• 50:43
  as a receptionist. And I put all my savings in
• 50:47
  Tesla and then started medical school holding on to that rather
• 50:52
  than paying off my student loan debt.
• 50:55
  And then by the time I graduated, it was the SPAC
• 51:00
  mania. And then I I put all all that
• 51:04
  into Asts. Well, you are.
• 51:07
  And so the great thing about medical yeah.
• 51:11
  So you you were pretty. Active back then I assume.
• 51:16
  More. Than I should.
• 51:17
  Have been, yeah, yeah, I, I would say, but yeah, yeah, the
• 51:25
  medical training is, is busy and that was great because AST was
• 51:33
  $2.00 when I was the busiest. So I just, I didn't check my
• 51:39
  account, which is what the right thing to do was at that time,
• 51:43
  yeah. That's right.
• 51:47
  So. Yeah, my and and yeah.
• 51:54
  And then I kind of was all in warrants at the lowest point and
• 51:59
  then rolled into common stock and leaps and.
• 52:05
  And yeah. Because.
• 52:08
  Being in medicine. My my.
• 52:12
  Income has increased. I always kind of treated this as
• 52:15
  like a call option on life and it was great if it worked out
• 52:19
  and if not that was going to be fine too.
• 52:23
  But the great. Benefit of.
• 52:25
  This has been and now that it has worked out, I've been able
• 52:29
  to be a little more flexible with what I choose to do with my
• 52:33
  life. That's.
• 52:35
  Great. And so.
• 52:36
  There. Yeah, yeah, I, and so that I
• 52:41
  won't go into specifics, but I, I changed my job a month or two
• 52:48
  ago because of the financial circumstances, my accounts now
• 52:53
  over 1,000,000 and that's given me a lot more flexibility with
• 52:59
  my student loans and whatnot. But yeah, now I now I'm at A at
• 53:05
  a point where I can focus on like impact and.
• 53:11
  Looking for opportunities? Where I can do things in my
• 53:16
  career that will help people that might be more impactful
• 53:19
  than just working day-to-day as a physician as I was.
• 53:24
  But yeah. And then that's been a cool
• 53:27
  thing that I've seen other people do in the space mob, you
• 53:32
  know, rallying around, you know, someone who experienced an
• 53:37
  unfortunate injury. And.
• 53:39
  Gavin. Yeah, Yeah, yes, Gavin.
• 53:44
  So yeah, I, I, I, I felt moved by that.
• 53:48
  And I hope to pay it forward and however I can.
• 53:54
  And I'm sure a lot of us will keep doing things like that.
• 53:59
  Yeah. Well, thanks.
• 54:00
  Thanks for. Sharing.
• 54:01
  Yeah, it's, I will say that when I was growing up, my, my parents
• 54:05
  were friends with many doctors. And I guess doctors are
• 54:08
  notorious for making bad investments because they're
• 54:12
  always busy with, with their profession.
• 54:14
  And then, you know, they, they would make investments here and
• 54:18
  there, but not really keep track of it.
• 54:20
  And then, you know, over time, I guess the record would be
• 54:25
  somewhat spotty. But, but it sounds like you, you
• 54:27
  made a good bet. So that's I.
• 54:30
  Remember. Talking to people back in 2021
• 54:33
  who, who were, I guess they're skeptical about it.
• 54:36
  And it's like, well, you don't really need to invest that much.
• 54:39
  You just, you know, like you were saying, treat it as a call
• 54:42
  option and invest some money. And if, if they really, if ASD
• 54:46
  does hit what we think it will, then, you know, a, a small bit
• 54:51
  of investment will go a long way.
• 54:52
  So it's really cool to hear that it worked out for you.
• 54:56
  Yeah, yeah. And.
• 54:57
  It's it's all because of the work that you and Kook have
• 55:01
  done. Yeah.
• 55:04
  And I haven't. But I don't know if I'm just not
• 55:07
  convincing or other people have convinced a lot more people to
• 55:11
  jump on board. But maybe we're all just too
• 55:14
  busy to to make sense of investments.
• 55:18
  I don't know why. Why we've bad luck.
• 55:21
  Well, I will say. I've mentioned this before, but
• 55:24
  it's like people in real life don't know who I am.
• 55:28
  And so I have not fold. I mean, my family, I've, I've
• 55:31
  gotten invested and then maybe like two or three people at
• 55:35
  most. But beyond that, I always viewed
• 55:38
  it as, Oh well, I'm this anonymous figure who's.
• 55:42
  Who's? When the awareness, so I, that's
• 55:44
  probably good enough because I think in real life and you know,
• 55:48
  farm farmed as I think for if you do that in real life, that
• 55:53
  comes up with a lot of responsibility.
• 55:55
  And it's like, I don't, I don't know if I want to sign up for
• 55:58
  that because I clearly I joked about it with my wife about how,
• 56:04
  and I was talking to this journalist recently about it.
• 56:06
  It's like in 20/23/2022 it, it was probably difficult for
• 56:12
  people to show up to Thanksgiving because it's like,
• 56:15
  oh, that guy's scary. He's the one who got me in this
• 56:17
  stock. And then of course, 20242024.
• 56:20
  It's like, hey, thank goodness, you know, typing family.
• 56:27
  Yeah, I I did. Get a couple family members to
• 56:30
  buy around $6 before it went down to two.
• 56:33
  Yeah. Did they hold?
• 56:34
  And they did, fortunately. I was just like, just wait.
• 56:38
  And now I feel vindicated. So.
• 56:44
  That's. Good.
• 56:46
  Yeah, so. Well, cool.
• 56:47
  Thanks for coming. Up and sharing, I appreciate it.
• 56:50
  Yeah, thanks. For doing this, awesome.
• 56:53
  Let me see who else is there? Who's up here?
• 56:56
  There's a few people who keep going in and out.
• 57:00
  Let's see. What are we?
• 57:01
  How about just another nurse? Do you want to speak?
• 57:06
  Hey, man, how's it going? Good.
• 57:07
  How are you? Oh.
• 57:09
  Amazing. And this is so cool here in such
• 57:11
  a like a diverse cross section of investors and like where
• 57:15
  everybody's coming from. So thank you for putting this
• 57:17
  on. And yeah, and I've two things
• 57:20
  specifically I want to thank you on, but I'm going to hold off on
• 57:22
  that until I get to where it wasn't my story, but yeah, I got
• 57:27
  I so when I was much younger, I was a nerd to to went to space
• 57:30
  camp. Always been interested in.
• 57:35
  Yeah, Space Camp. Space Academy level 1, space
• 57:37
  Academy level 2 and the I was going to be an astronaut, but
• 57:42
  then ended up in the medical field and as a nurse, obviously.
• 57:45
  And the Fast forward to COVID coming around and I had gotten
• 57:52
  into options trading and I remember seeing everything
• 57:57
  developing with COVID and realizing that it's going to be
• 58:00
  very impactful. And so I started putting shorts
• 58:04
  on on on SPY, you know, that week before when the market was
• 58:09
  still doing great. I'm like, something's wrong
• 58:11
  here. So you're not asking great on
• 58:13
  them. Yeah.
• 58:14
  Well. We, we might have, but then I
• 58:17
  kept it on too long and I didn't understand that Fed pivot.
• 58:21
  And then it was like that, the South Park name and it's gone.
• 58:27
  So Fast forward a couple, yeah. To 2022.
• 58:32
  And the, the SPAC craze had did come through.
• 58:36
  And I, I decided, hey, I'm going to apply this knowledge that
• 58:40
  I've built up over my life in terms of, you know, space and
• 58:42
  my, you know, my, my interest in it.
• 58:45
  And I chose three stocks that I wanted to get into.
• 58:48
  Rocket Lab was 1, Astro was one. And yeah.
• 58:54
  If I knew he was eating lead. Paint I would not have done and
• 58:57
  then AST and so how, but I, I invested in AST using call
• 59:03
  options and they were not long enough dated and they just bled
• 59:06
  away as, as I watched, you know, more and more dilution calm and
• 59:10
  I completely capitulated. And I was like, oh, I'm done
• 59:13
  with this. And so then Fast forward to I've
• 59:17
  changed jobs, have rolled over my 401K into an IRA and I'm, I'm
• 59:21
  making up my investments. And I take a look back at AST,
• 59:24
  I'm like, oh, it's down to $2.00 that rained.
• 59:27
  I'm like, that's pretty much like a call option.
• 59:30
  Yeah, that's right. And you know, I, I still believe
• 59:32
  in the technology. I believed in the mission and,
• 59:34
  you know, and reading up on everything online and everything
• 59:36
  still look like it could work. And so I started buying shares
• 59:40
  and then I started looking at the call options again.
• 59:44
  And I, I distinctly remember they were, and I was like, OK,
• 59:47
  this time I'm doing longer dated call options.
• 59:49
  So I was looking out, you know, nine months or a year and I was
• 59:52
  picking up $5 call options for $0.05 and five to $0.10.
• 59:57
  And so, Yep. So I I I got a couple hundred of
• 1:00:02
  those right before. You know, before the pivot and
• 1:00:07
  then I rolled to. $10 options. And $20 options and then rolled
• 1:00:12
  up again to 40. And yeah, I mean, the ride has
• 1:00:16
  just been insane. And now I'm in a position that
• 1:00:19
  I, I have generational wealth. And it is because of, you know,
• 1:00:24
  this community that's around here that has has formed around
• 1:00:28
  a company at a time where we were so lucky to be able to
• 1:00:32
  invest in a company that normally would have not been
• 1:00:35
  published. And it just happens to have been
• 1:00:38
  that confluence of, of COVID and all that money pushing in and,
• 1:00:41
  and, and allowing these facts to occur and giving us that
• 1:00:45
  opportunity to get in. And so I want to Fast forward to
• 1:00:50
  the 2. Things that I.
• 1:00:51
  Specifically want to thank you. On one is when you were
• 1:00:54
  describing it was one of the convertible bond offerings that
• 1:01:01
  came out and you were describing about how this was a good thing
• 1:01:03
  for the company and you know it's bringing in new investors,
• 1:01:07
  but in a different way. And that really clicked a light
• 1:01:09
  bulb in my head and I and I really switched from, you know,
• 1:01:13
  the regretting the dilution that was occurring there to, to
• 1:01:17
  embracing it and realizing that this was the next step for the
• 1:01:20
  company needs to take. And then also recently when you
• 1:01:24
  had mentioned about how it's OK to, you know, to take some
• 1:01:28
  profits as you're, as you're writing up and to, you know,
• 1:01:30
  apply each situation to where we're at.
• 1:01:32
  So, you know, I was able to, you know, internalize that kind of
• 1:01:35
  look at where my, my positions were.
• 1:01:38
  And I mean, now I'm in been able to move some money off, you
• 1:01:41
  know, into more rational investments that, you know,
• 1:01:44
  provides retirement, you know, for, for me and my family, you
• 1:01:48
  know, and, but now I'm all, and then I was also able to, you
• 1:01:51
  know, load back up and I'm, I'm heavy long now.
• 1:01:53
  So I'm, I'm very much looking forward to, you know, what we
• 1:01:56
  have happened on the, you know, in the next couple months and
• 1:01:59
  over the 6th year, I think this year is going to be pivotal.
• 1:02:01
  I think this year is going to be transformational.
• 1:02:04
  I'm I'm fully convinced that by the end of 2026 that I mean, we
• 1:02:08
  are just all going to be looking back and going, wow, you know,
• 1:02:11
  it took what, what did we just watch?
• 1:02:13
  And yeah, I mean, it, it's it is this has been life changing.
• 1:02:17
  And you know, I'm thankful for for.
• 1:02:20
  You know all. Of the elders, as I say, you
• 1:02:23
  know, the ones that have been there for for a while and, and
• 1:02:26
  for Steve, you know, I mean that man, this has been such a ride.
• 1:02:30
  So. Yeah, that's what I got, man.
• 1:02:33
  Yeah. I did it.
• 1:02:34
  It is. It does feel surreal at times
• 1:02:38
  and I've I've talked about this whole idea that it is.
• 1:02:42
  A very unique. And special moment in time, like
• 1:02:45
  you said, there is a confluence of COVID, the Fed pumping
• 1:02:49
  liquidity in markets and then these like early stage companies
• 1:02:53
  with grant ideas. I mean, obviously a decent
• 1:02:55
  amount of those were not good ideas or companies that
• 1:02:59
  shouldn't have gone public. But out of that whole basket of
• 1:03:03
  companies AST space mobile arose and and went public probably 4
• 1:03:09
  years ahead of when it should have.
• 1:03:11
  And then we, we as retail investors got to become venture
• 1:03:16
  investors and see how the sausage was being made and then
• 1:03:20
  have the ups and downs and then here we are.
• 1:03:23
  And I don't think, you know, sometimes people, I mean,
• 1:03:27
  they're, they're obviously like a few lucky people who show up
• 1:03:30
  as investors wet behind the year at $2.00.
• 1:03:33
  They buy. And then, you know, perhaps
• 1:03:35
  maybe they held to some extent. But I think building that
• 1:03:38
  conviction and, and going through having to have that
• 1:03:42
  level of due diligence and reminding yourself in during the
• 1:03:45
  difficult times of why you own the stock, then it galvanizes
• 1:03:48
  like your, your ability to hold it all the way through even to
• 1:03:52
  $100 or $77. And as I mentioned before, but
• 1:03:56
  you, you pointed out too, it's like you do have to look at like
• 1:04:00
  when you make generational wealth or multiple times of your
• 1:04:04
  net wealth, or you know, you're what you had before, it always
• 1:04:08
  does make sense to take some down, right?
• 1:04:10
  Because I think financially that's a responsible thing to
• 1:04:13
  do. And then it also helps you ride
• 1:04:15
  the rest because you've, you basically have chalked up a win
• 1:04:18
  and you've set aside that money. And so I think, you know,
• 1:04:21
  there's quite a few of you guys that I've spoken to who have
• 1:04:24
  done that. And, and so when you have a draw
• 1:04:26
  down of 3040%, which is typical for growth stocks, you feel fine
• 1:04:31
  because you're like, oh, well, I did sell some at whatever level
• 1:04:34
  and I'm OK with this volatility. And so, so, yeah, thanks for for
• 1:04:39
  sharing. I think that it's great to hear
• 1:04:42
  that, that you that you have done well and you're reloaded
• 1:04:46
  because I think, I think I agree with you 2026.
• 1:04:50
  I mean, just the backdrop or space stocks.
• 1:04:53
  And then I think in particular for AST, given that we're about
• 1:04:56
  to launch commercial service and there's a whole, I mean, I, I
• 1:05:00
  the fact that Scott, we did a meme for the first time, I think
• 1:05:03
  that's how it tells you something that there's quite a
• 1:05:06
  bit of exciting stuff coming and it's not just going to be
• 1:05:09
  launched. I think there's going to be some
• 1:05:11
  other things. So but yeah, thanks, thanks for
• 1:05:14
  coming. I really appreciate it.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah, Awesome man Thanks. Let's see, let's see.
• 1:05:22
  Let me just look at the people who are.
• 1:05:23
  Up here there's one guy who keeps going up and down, but
• 1:05:28
  let's see. Juggling.
• 1:05:29
  Do you want to come up and speak?
• 1:05:32
  Alright, thanks for. Having me on that from me can
• 1:05:35
  you hear me fun Yeah yeah, we can hear you OK awesome.
• 1:05:38
  Well, you know, I ramble a lot, so I was going to say this guy,
• 1:05:41
  I forget it's a it's very therapeutic ramble.
• 1:05:46
  But yeah, First off, just want to thank you for, you know,
• 1:05:49
  these past five years. I mean, I you've just been a
• 1:05:51
  complete rock and all the stuff that you do.
• 1:05:54
  I mean, what time is it? So 11 O clock in New York right
• 1:05:56
  now and you know, you have the time to do this.
• 1:05:59
  So thank you for all that. You know, I have a pretty
• 1:06:03
  similar story to other guys have gone on.
• 1:06:06
  So I don't I won't go in too much, but I basically got
• 1:06:09
  involved back in 2020. You know, this is, everybody
• 1:06:13
  knows it's back in the spat craze.
• 1:06:16
  So I had played around like there's some that went really
• 1:06:18
  well, you know, and that I was able to accumulate so capital
• 1:06:23
  with that. And then when I saw HTS come
• 1:06:25
  out, you know, this was really intriguing.
• 1:06:28
  I saw your DDI, saw Spectory's DD.
• 1:06:31
  You know, it's a shame. I don't know.
• 1:06:32
  I don't Spectory, by the way, I don't know where that guy went.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah, I don't know why he just disappeared like he was, you
• 1:06:38
  know, he had a really great thought process.
• 1:06:41
  I mean, you know, he had a lot of background with space, but
• 1:06:44
  yeah, so I saw that. And you know, similar to
• 1:06:47
  William, you know, I was actually a resident.
• 1:06:49
  I was on the physician now as a resident training, which is
• 1:06:52
  probably good and bad thing. So I basically put everything on
• 1:06:56
  the line on as TS and I actually, I created this DD
• 1:07:01
  document, sent it to my close residency friends and was just
• 1:07:05
  like, you know, this is such a great opportunity.
• 1:07:07
  You know, companies like this don't come around very often.
• 1:07:10
  Like it's like a once in a decade, you know, opportunity,
• 1:07:14
  you know, and then Fast forward, right?
• 1:07:16
  You know, then the interest rates got hiked, you know, the,
• 1:07:18
  you know, the stock got destroyed.
• 1:07:22
  But you know, I didn't really. Have any other great plans?
• 1:07:25
  At the time I was just like, you know what, you know, like at
• 1:07:27
  this time I'm just going to hold.
• 1:07:29
  I still accumulated a little bit, but I mean it really, you
• 1:07:32
  know, it was brutal. I I.
• 1:07:33
  And we went to family. Events because I I told
• 1:07:36
  everybody about it, you know, it's gets it's.
• 1:07:39
  Hard to. You know, face it and be like,
• 1:07:41
  how's that? How's your space stock doing?
• 1:07:44
  You know, it's like, fuck you. Like, you know.
• 1:07:47
  It's, you know, you know it's. Down but and then I think the
• 1:07:51
  hardest part really was my residency friends.
• 1:07:54
  You know, it's just because. It's like.
• 1:07:55
  You know, you got them involved, so you felt personally
• 1:07:58
  responsible, but the stock was down, you know, and they would
• 1:08:02
  periodically text me and I'd be like, you know, you know it.
• 1:08:06
  Doesn't look great. But, you know, they'll, they'll
• 1:08:08
  be able to pull through. And then I remember that
• 1:08:11
  morning, you know, when the Verizon announcement.
• 1:08:14
  Oh yeah. And that was that.
• 1:08:16
  Was. Just pretty game changing.
• 1:08:17
  I remember that this was the time because I, I honestly
• 1:08:20
  didn't really open My Portfolio much like I didn't want to.
• 1:08:24
  And it was. A time.
• 1:08:25
  That dejection, yeah. Exactly.
• 1:08:28
  It's just like, you know you're already.
• 1:08:30
  The stock had been trading at 2. You know, you were down like
• 1:08:32
  7080%. And that's when the time where
• 1:08:35
  it's like, OK, you know, like I'm just going to this is where
• 1:08:38
  like, this seems like a Seminole event.
• 1:08:40
  So I doubled down basically all of the, you know, the capital
• 1:08:44
  that I was willing waving to use.
• 1:08:47
  And then that's. Kind of then that's kind of
• 1:08:49
  where we're at now. But yeah, I.
• 1:08:51
  Think it's just it's, you know, I think I had been lurking for a
• 1:08:55
  while. I remember too, just seeing
• 1:08:58
  after that Verizon news, there's still a slew of bears,
• 1:09:01
  surprisingly, you know, and go there's gonna be new ones.
• 1:09:07
  You know, it's like Pivotal Capital seems to be the guy,
• 1:09:11
  this guy that that other doctor, the fake doctor.
• 1:09:16
  Still only fake. Right.
• 1:09:17
  He's. Like.
• 1:09:18
  You know, it's laying his portfolio on the line for
• 1:09:20
  $600.00. Meanwhile, we've got like all
• 1:09:22
  these doctors and healthcare professionals.
• 1:09:26
  That's good. Which by the way, like.
• 1:09:28
  The fact that there are so many of.
• 1:09:29
  You I, I didn't realize like doctors and, and pharmacy folks
• 1:09:33
  and nurses are all D Jens. Oh, yeah, we are because we, we,
• 1:09:37
  this is our only hope. You know, if you, if you
• 1:09:39
  actually like, think 510 years ahead, like, you know, like, if
• 1:09:43
  you're in the healthcare profession, like, excuse my
• 1:09:45
  language, like you're kind of screwed if you look at how the
• 1:09:49
  everything's going. So it's like, this is your
• 1:09:50
  greatest hedge, you know, for finding like unique companies
• 1:09:54
  like this. You know, you, you, you think
• 1:09:56
  about it like it's it's really, but I respect about Kook is like
• 1:09:59
  you think about a business owner.
• 1:10:01
  Basically you get to own, you know, a percentage of the
• 1:10:03
  company and then they're. Slaving.
• 1:10:06
  Away They're doing such great work and you benefit.
• 1:10:10
  Right, that's. Right.
• 1:10:11
  And so it's like, it's really hard to find that opportunity in
• 1:10:14
  healthcare. But yeah, but that's my story.
• 1:10:16
  I mean, I, I create an account when I, you know, after I just,
• 1:10:20
  you know, I know you guys have done so much work.
• 1:10:22
  So I was like, you know, let me try to pitch in and do my part.
• 1:10:27
  You know, it pales in comparison to everything that you have guys
• 1:10:30
  have done. But that's my story.
• 1:10:32
  And I just really wanted to kind of get up here and thank all of
• 1:10:35
  you guys because the community is so strong.
• 1:10:38
  Thanks to your leadership, to Kooks, to Todd, to Kevin.
• 1:10:42
  I mean, there's so many people I could probably name for the next
• 1:10:45
  like 2 minutes and I don't want them to want them to get the
• 1:10:48
  credit too. But it's such a great community.
• 1:10:51
  There's such a, you know, great Seminole time for all of us.
• 1:10:54
  So I'm just excited and just want to thank you guys all for
• 1:10:58
  everything that you've done and excited for this journey.
• 1:11:02
  Yeah. And I think it's important to
• 1:11:04
  point out like the community is important to us because I don't
• 1:11:08
  think, for example, for Kook, like having that weekly space is
• 1:11:13
  actually therapeutic for him. And, and it actually, you know,
• 1:11:18
  brings his thought process into focus because he actually, you
• 1:11:21
  know, he has to put together this weekly, which takes a lot
• 1:11:25
  of time. And so it helps helps him re
• 1:11:28
  underwrite the investment and it's a reminder.
• 1:11:31
  And so I think I think for all of us, like just having people
• 1:11:35
  around that you can, you know, you have this common interest,
• 1:11:37
  this investment and you can talk about it.
• 1:11:40
  Like there's no way I would have held the stock all the way
• 1:11:43
  through these years if it was just me, you know, and and
• 1:11:47
  disconnected from everyone else. I would have gone crazy.
• 1:11:51
  I think so. So I think, yeah, no, I, I think
• 1:11:54
  it's, it's a testament to how strong the community is.
• 1:11:57
  And, and just you know, when when you say thank you, it's
• 1:12:00
  it's also people saying thank you to you as well.
• 1:12:02
  So, so, yeah, thanks for coming out.
• 1:12:05
  Appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:12:06
  Well, thanks again. All right, have a good night and
• 1:12:09
  take care. Let's see dog days.
• 1:12:13
  Do you want to speak next? It's dog days ready.
• 1:12:17
  Sure, sure. Can hear you all right, can hear
• 1:12:18
  you OK OK, awesome. Yeah So actually, yeah, I've got
• 1:12:23
  this is AI. I'm kind of follow on that.
• 1:12:26
  This is more like a therapy session for me.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah, yeah, because I was buying on June of 21 and I think I had
• 1:12:32
  some NPA, but then, you know, eventually started buying more,
• 1:12:36
  you know, after the DSPAC. But so, yeah, it's a long, it's
• 1:12:43
  a long history. So I've, I'm older than a lot of
• 1:12:46
  the people on this that I keep watching on Twitter and seeing
• 1:12:50
  things that are happening. I spent 30 years working for a
• 1:12:54
  company doing worldwide operations, planning for
• 1:12:57
  manufacturing distribution, happens to be the company that
• 1:13:01
  started the Silicon Valley. And so for 30 years I was yeah,
• 1:13:05
  I was still an investor. I was just, you know, and
• 1:13:08
  putting money into my 4-O1K year after year after year, working
• 1:13:12
  as you know, selling my soul, if you will, the corporate world.
• 1:13:16
  Yeah, I hear you. And then in 2007, I just
• 1:13:21
  decided, you know what? I I've got to do something
• 1:13:23
  different. So I started my left and started
• 1:13:26
  my own business. I was there 31 years, started my
• 1:13:29
  own business doing fine art printing on aluminum.
• 1:13:32
  So it's just want to do artwork type stuff.
• 1:13:35
  And so I had all my money at 4 O 1K and moved it to a Roth IRA.
• 1:13:41
  And I, I had knew nothing about investing and started, you know,
• 1:13:45
  at first I just bought things like Apple, Google, Amazon, you
• 1:13:50
  know, I just saw the big, the big names and that worked really
• 1:13:52
  well for a while. And then I decided, oh, you
• 1:13:56
  know, I should really learn and try to dish this on me.
• 1:13:59
  And that's what I learned. I'm just terrible at investing.
• 1:14:02
  I would tell people, you know, just don't buy what I buy
• 1:14:05
  because all my 30 years worth of savings were up and down and I
• 1:14:10
  think I must have lost it two or three times.
• 1:14:13
  And then I with the SPAC's I just, you know, I bought a bunch
• 1:14:17
  of SPAC. So in the end, this ASC is the
• 1:14:20
  only one I've kept and I started again.
• 1:14:23
  Again, I would say, I can't remember whose name I saw first,
• 1:14:26
  but I remember Steve Larson very clearly was one of the first
• 1:14:31
  people that I followed religiously.
• 1:14:34
  And I remember him saying at one point, you know, the more I look
• 1:14:37
  into this, the more I think this is going to work.
• 1:14:40
  And there were two or three people, I think yourself and
• 1:14:43
  Cassie. And, you know, eventually you
• 1:14:45
  start connecting. And I was not a a big Twitter
• 1:14:48
  guy, so I had a Twitter account that I just changed my name.
• 1:14:51
  I, I had my same face, my same dog face, but I took my name
• 1:14:55
  off. I thought, well, I should
• 1:14:57
  probably not put out there, you know, now that I'm going to be a
• 1:15:00
  multimillionaire. How much you what my name is.
• 1:15:04
  So I then I put AZ in my name after talking to Farm Baz
• 1:15:09
  because I'm building a retirement home now.
• 1:15:11
  I'm in Arizona. Yeah.
• 1:15:14
  So. Anyway.
• 1:15:16
  After all that year I was losing money, losing money, losing
• 1:15:20
  money and all that investment at one point is the stock was going
• 1:15:24
  down. So I bought it 10, then bought
• 1:15:27
  at 11, bought at 12. I think I bought it probably 10
• 1:15:30
  again. I thought, oh, and I kept
• 1:15:32
  selling all my other stocks that I had bought that were lasers.
• 1:15:35
  You know, I had a bunch of stuff and the market was going down
• 1:15:38
  and I had invested in green energy and the next battery and
• 1:15:43
  all the stuff that you know, takes forever and never
• 1:15:46
  happened. And so as all those were
• 1:15:48
  dropping, I said, well, I'm just going to keep buying AST because
• 1:15:51
  in my mind what really locked it in my head is I said I have to
• 1:15:56
  quit chasing shiny objects and. 5G.
• 1:16:02
  To me, you know, and the Internet seemed to me to be, you
• 1:16:05
  know, key in the future of everything, no matter what it
• 1:16:08
  is, autonomous cards or whatever.
• 1:16:10
  And so I that's what kind of locked me.
• 1:16:13
  And I said, I'm going to quit chasing shiny objects.
• 1:16:17
  And I just kept buying ASD and I was selling everything else.
• 1:16:21
  And it was buying at 8:00 and 7:00 and 6:00 and 5:00 and 4:00
• 1:16:26
  and maybe 3. And then I was out of money.
• 1:16:29
  I mean, I had bought everything and then it just kept dropping
• 1:16:34
  and I had no more money and it kept going lower.
• 1:16:37
  But I was so much of A believer and I didn't know what else I
• 1:16:41
  could invest. So what I did, as I said, well I
• 1:16:44
  have a job, I have income, I can pay taxes.
• 1:16:47
  So all those years of investing was now only worth $80,000.
• 1:16:52
  So I moved it all from my traditional RA over the end of
• 1:16:55
  23 and, and early 24 into my that was smart.
• 1:17:00
  So I converted, you know, 40,000 shares into my Roth IRA because
• 1:17:09
  my average then was like $3.14 that I paid taxes on and.
• 1:17:15
  I said OK, I. Don't have a lot of any more
• 1:17:17
  money to spend, but I can do this because taxes will be
• 1:17:20
  delayed a year. So I was just some in 23 some in
• 1:17:23
  24 and I was able to cover that and so that, you know, was kind
• 1:17:30
  of the foundation I said to be honest, I at when I had my life
• 1:17:34
  savings was down to $80,000. I thought, how am I going to
• 1:17:37
  tell them how lot? She has no idea.
• 1:17:39
  You don't have to she's. That's it.
• 1:17:43
  You know, when she found out at the launch.
• 1:17:48
  I tell you what, I don't. Know if anybody else you know I
• 1:17:51
  did a lot of praying over all this dude, everybody I.
• 1:17:53
  Don't know this. Everybody did a lot of praying.
• 1:17:56
  And I, and so when I, I was in Bend, OR, you know, we were
• 1:18:01
  doing a weekend away when I got the invite to go to the launch
• 1:18:04
  and that's all, you know, I cried.
• 1:18:06
  I, it was, it was just a great moment.
• 1:18:09
  So my wife didn't, I know about this investment until we were at
• 1:18:13
  the lodge and she was incredibly impressed with the entire event.
• 1:18:19
  It was the coolest thing so that I came clean.
• 1:18:23
  And then so you know, obviously then it, you know, it, it took
• 1:18:27
  off and things went well with them.
• 1:18:30
  I don't know, with them maybe was it maybe 4-5, six months
• 1:18:33
  that 80,000 was like a million and a half.
• 1:18:35
  And I thought, OK, I can breathe again.
• 1:18:38
  And then once the really the, you know, once I really felt
• 1:18:41
  that commitment and de risking, then we took my wife's entire 4
• 1:18:47
  O 1B. She was an an RN emergency room
• 1:18:50
  nurse and we put all of that in. Oh wow.
• 1:18:53
  And so we are, we have been 100% invested in Asts through all of
• 1:19:00
  this. So a lot of gut wrenching.
• 1:19:02
  That's why I say truly, I thank everybody because this true, you
• 1:19:06
  know, all the watching on Twitter, all the troop weeklies,
• 1:19:11
  it really, truly is all therapy. It really is.
• 1:19:14
  I mean, it's like, how do you Yeah, there's just no way to put
• 1:19:19
  a monetary value on on all of that.
• 1:19:24
  All that time, all that therapy. And I do have about 10 people
• 1:19:27
  that at least that have and I was well into, hey, it's already
• 1:19:31
  doing well before I even, you know, talk to anybody because I
• 1:19:35
  was such a lousy investor. But now, everybody.
• 1:19:39
  'S like excited, yeah. So it's a that's a good thing.
• 1:19:43
  Wow, that's a crazy stuff. And because I.
• 1:19:47
  Brought my life to the event. I didn't go looking for anybody
• 1:19:50
  to say hi or introduce myself because I just wanted to
• 1:19:54
  experience this with my wife. Oh that's that's correct.
• 1:19:56
  But I'm hoping to make a future lunch and actually get to meet
• 1:20:00
  people and. I was telling farm DAC, you
• 1:20:04
  know, I think I'm building a home only about maybe an hour
• 1:20:07
  and a half from where he's at. Maybe you can get as well as
• 1:20:11
  well. Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah, yeah. Maybe on my butt.
• 1:20:16
  I don't know. We'll see.
• 1:20:17
  You can write. No, no, that's.
• 1:20:19
  I'm sorry. That kook's.
• 1:20:21
  You could. You could.
• 1:20:21
  Just do of a Bluebird and and and write kook bottom on it.
• 1:20:26
  Yeah, I did. I did post a, a little leather
• 1:20:30
  key trade that a friend of mine, I had a friend of mine make that
• 1:20:33
  had the satellite pick and space Bob across it, but I wasn't sure
• 1:20:39
  how to get the rights to do it. So he's I was going to have, you
• 1:20:42
  know, him make those available for people, but I just didn't
• 1:20:46
  push through with that because everybody's so busy.
• 1:20:49
  Anyway, that's kind of my story. I'm very excited.
• 1:20:52
  Yeah. I've never thought I'd ever have
• 1:20:54
  this kind of money ever. And we haven't even started.
• 1:20:57
  That's the that's the real craziness.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:00
  No, I. Agree with you.
• 1:21:01
  I mean, I think, I think this year is going to surprise folks
• 1:21:06
  and we're we're just kind of getting an inkling.
• 1:21:09
  Of of. The potential and so, but yeah,
• 1:21:13
  I, I, that's an amazing story. And you have some really, really
• 1:21:17
  great timing on, on converting to the Roth.
• 1:21:21
  But yeah, I, I will say like if we get to these, you know,
• 1:21:26
  stratospheric levels in 2026, do take something down eventually
• 1:21:32
  at, at whatever makes you comfortable.
• 1:21:34
  But I I actually did. Sell some of the OK, OK, good,
• 1:21:39
  good. Because after talking and truly
• 1:21:42
  I, I had to have some money to put down on this home that we're
• 1:21:44
  building in Arizona. And I have to come up with the
• 1:21:48
  rest of the down payment about the 1st of April.
• 1:21:52
  So now I'm watching and I have 4148 shares that were in the
• 1:21:56
  Roth prior to the conversion that I can sell without, you
• 1:22:01
  know, impacting or having taxes on.
• 1:22:04
  And my accountant said, no, keep to your other Traditional IRA,
• 1:22:08
  don't sell that yet. Do it a little bit at a time so
• 1:22:10
  you don't get taxed as much. And so I'm just waiting, hoping
• 1:22:14
  it hits maybe 150 and then that'll get that would give me
• 1:22:18
  enough to put the down payment for the for the new big house.
• 1:22:22
  So yeah, be. Be honest with.
• 1:22:23
  Yourself, you set goals like you gotta stick with them.
• 1:22:26
  Yeah, yeah. Does your?
• 1:22:27
  Does. Your account think.
• 1:22:28
  You're crazy. You know what my, my bookkeeper
• 1:22:33
  who does the bookkeeping for my company was in the meeting and I
• 1:22:37
  told, well, actually he said once, once I told him I, you
• 1:22:41
  know, I converted at $3.14 and today it's at 35.
• 1:22:45
  He said that's probably good news.
• 1:22:47
  But my bookkeeper went back and told her husband that he's
• 1:22:49
  invested. So he's one of the people that,
• 1:22:52
  you know, all those people that, that have learned from.
• 1:22:55
  I'm always just kind of about every few weeks I'll send them a
• 1:22:58
  tickler from a, you know, a, a screenshot from a tweet that's,
• 1:23:03
  you know, states, you know, just the big stuff that's happening
• 1:23:07
  just to keep them. I do, I, I do feel, well, I
• 1:23:13
  don't want to say guilty, I feel responsible.
• 1:23:16
  But a lot of those people I told, you know, was way back at
• 1:23:19
  $12.00. So, you know, if they can't
• 1:23:21
  handle the volatility, they could go ahead and get out.
• 1:23:24
  But I I do keep sending family, friends and family a little
• 1:23:29
  tickler. Well, cool.
• 1:23:31
  Well, thanks. Thanks, Doug.
• 1:23:32
  Yeah, that, that's great, great story.
• 1:23:35
  And yeah, I I'm happy for you, you and your wife, and look
• 1:23:40
  forward to seeing you guys in Florida.
• 1:23:44
  Yeah, I'm hoping I, I'm hoping I may be doing a knee surgery
• 1:23:47
  about that or a knee replacement about the time the next launch
• 1:23:51
  happens. So I may miss that one, but in
• 1:23:53
  the future I will. They're going to be.
• 1:23:55
  A lot of them. So there will.
• 1:23:57
  So we might, we're, I was joking with some friends, like maybe we
• 1:24:01
  should just buy a house down there, just stay there because
• 1:24:03
  they're going to be down to me so often.
• 1:24:06
  Well. I even wanted.
• 1:24:07
  To go to the Waffle House, but I again, I didn't want to leave my
• 1:24:10
  wife. It was like this with this event
• 1:24:13
  was an important, important time for us.
• 1:24:17
  And so it's not so well anyway, yes, in the future.
• 1:24:21
  Cool. Well, thanks.
• 1:24:22
  Thanks for coming up. And give your wife our best.
• 1:24:26
  I will thank. You all right?
• 1:24:28
  Let's see, we've got. We've got Johnny B and Endless.
• 1:24:31
  Maybe you go on that round. Johnny Bangs.
• 1:24:33
  Do you want to? You want to come up?
• 1:24:38
  Oh, I guess he dropped off. Hey, Endless.
• 1:24:42
  How's it going? What's going on man?
• 1:24:45
  Nice to meet for for, well, nice to speak for the first time.
• 1:24:48
  Yeah, directly. So I mean.
• 1:24:51
  You know my story, So I mean, excuse me if I, if I cough at
• 1:24:55
  all during this. I've been sick for the past
• 1:24:57
  week. My kids are still 9:00 and 7:00.
• 1:24:58
  So they bring everything home. And you know, we've, we were my
• 1:25:03
  wife and I were celebrating tonight with a little, a little
• 1:25:06
  little wine. So I'll try to keep this as, as
• 1:25:09
  straight and narrow as possible, but you know my story.
• 1:25:11
  So I, I mean, I've been in the industry 20 years past seven or
• 1:25:15
  eight years in private equity, mostly handling secondary
• 1:25:19
  transactions with some primaries and most of the major venture
• 1:25:22
  backed Unicorn growth companies. So, you know, I've raised a lot
• 1:25:26
  of money for SpaceX. I've bought from some of the I
• 1:25:28
  can't, obviously I'm, you know, still licensed Rep and still in
• 1:25:31
  the industry and that's why I'm anonymous on, on Twitter.
• 1:25:34
  But you know, I've bought from some of the major shareholders
• 1:25:38
  in SpaceX. I've, I've bought from, you
• 1:25:41
  know, some, you know, some of the longest time investors in,
• 1:25:44
  in the company and my clients have, you know, accumulated a
• 1:25:46
  big possession. So, you know, I've been in
• 1:25:49
  aerospace for, you know, 7-7 or eight years or so following
• 1:25:53
  SpaceX and just saw the opportunity with some of these
• 1:25:56
  other companies. So, you know, that's why that's
• 1:26:00
  why this company interested me and that's why, you know, AST,
• 1:26:04
  you know, drew my, drew my attention.
• 1:26:06
  But, you know, kind of alongside that, over the past 10 years,
• 1:26:09
  I've been, you know, day trading options as a hobby, made and
• 1:26:14
  lost a half, $1,000,000 a few times, became a Rocket Lab
• 1:26:17
  investor as sort of a, a sympathy kind of investment
• 1:26:22
  alongside what I was doing with SpaceX and saw them as a public
• 1:26:25
  comp with a lot of upside that was executing well.
• 1:26:28
  So, you know, bought some some shorts, some.
• 1:26:31
  Mid. Some long term calls on that
• 1:26:33
  company and made a couple $1,000,000 and you know while
• 1:26:37
  this was all happening last summer in the 2024 actually.
• 1:26:44
  My. Bank was trying to recruit this
• 1:26:46
  guy who owned a broker dealer down in Texas.
• 1:26:50
  And. He.
• 1:26:52
  He was. One of seven or eight guys that
• 1:26:55
  sit on the state investment committee of Texas and he was
• 1:26:59
  responsible for investing like a billion dollars a year of the
• 1:27:04
  state. 'S money into.
• 1:27:05
  Aerospace companies. And so because of all the work
• 1:27:09
  we've done with SpaceX, my chairman was like, you know, why
• 1:27:12
  don't you? We're going to have dinner at
• 1:27:13
  the Yale Club tonight in New York City.
• 1:27:14
  Why don't you, why don't you sit next to this guy, get to know
• 1:27:17
  him. You know, we're trying to
• 1:27:18
  recruit him, fill him out, see if you can see if you can entice
• 1:27:21
  him to come work for us. And when I met him, that was
• 1:27:27
  like literally within a couple of weeks that ASTS went from,
• 1:27:32
  you know, 2 to 39 in those three months.
• 1:27:35
  And it was like right at the tail end of that.
• 1:27:37
  So I, you know, I said to him, you know, have you met the
• 1:27:40
  management team of ASD Space Mobile?
• 1:27:42
  And, you know, is this all hype or is the technology legitimate?
• 1:27:46
  And he basically sat with me and said no, like he met the team.
• 1:27:50
  The technology works. And.
• 1:27:53
  That's when I started taking it seriously.
• 1:27:55
  So I was like, OK, hold on. Like, you know, I know Starlink
• 1:27:58
  was acquiring customers. I know, you know, this was a
• 1:28:01
  big, this was this was a, you know, a much bigger thing than
• 1:28:04
  people realize, right? The future of National Defense,
• 1:28:08
  the future of data and the future of telecommunications.
• 1:28:11
  It's all coming from a satellite.
• 1:28:13
  So when just gentlemen was like. No.
• 1:28:17
  The technology works. It's you know, it's it's
• 1:28:20
  serious. You should you should learn more
• 1:28:22
  about it. And I said OK, let.
• 1:28:23
  Me take this seriously so. That's when that's when it kind
• 1:28:26
  of hit me and you know, for the past year, caught 15 months,
• 1:28:32
  I've been trying to educate as many family and friends about
• 1:28:36
  the company as I can because I know it's going to change
• 1:28:38
  people's lives. And you know, obviously,
• 1:28:40
  disclaimer, this is not financial advice, but you know,
• 1:28:45
  I literally like everybody I know.
• 1:28:48
  I mean, I coach my kids baseball teams.
• 1:28:50
  I tell the parents that I coach their kids.
• 1:28:52
  Like you should think about this.
• 1:28:54
  You know, like. This is something that could
• 1:28:55
  change your life in three or four or five years.
• 1:28:58
  So like that's that's like, I just feel like that's the I
• 1:29:01
  don't know why, but that I just feel like that's, you know, I
• 1:29:03
  was I was fortunate enough to come across this.
• 1:29:06
  I've obviously someone that I stare at the screen, you know,
• 1:29:09
  as much as you do, you know, so we're we're always posting, you
• 1:29:14
  know, as quick as we can when we see new information, like that's
• 1:29:17
  who I am. I'm going to good trade a group
• 1:29:19
  of friends that you know that that do that do the same thing
• 1:29:22
  as well. So, you know, you surround
• 1:29:24
  yourself with people that have, you know, like goals in our life
• 1:29:28
  and similar, similar aspirations.
• 1:29:32
  And you know that to break away from, you know, the, the
• 1:29:35
  everyday grind, you, you have to take, take risks and you have
• 1:29:40
  to, you know, educate yourself on certain things.
• 1:29:43
  And you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's something that
• 1:29:48
  always, you know, always struck me since I was a kid.
• 1:29:50
  I mean, I was, I was a professional poker player for
• 1:29:52
  three years in between my 20 year financial career as well.
• 1:29:55
  So, you know, like I always taking risks, always came early
• 1:29:57
  to me. It's something that, you know,
• 1:30:01
  that always speaks my interest. So, you know, that's, that's
• 1:30:05
  sort of my story from, from Rocket Lab, The money that I
• 1:30:10
  made there. I, I kind of said like, hold on
• 1:30:13
  a second, like I, I knew space attend this huge launch company,
• 1:30:16
  a huge launch business that was growing.
• 1:30:19
  And at the same time they, you know, in 2019, they launched
• 1:30:23
  their first satellite and that really didn't become this one.
• 1:30:26
  Most people don't get that didn't become a Commercial
• 1:30:29
  Services business until 2021. So, you know, Starlink, really.
• 1:30:33
  You know is. 65% or so of the value of SpaceX and that's
• 1:30:36
  really a four year old business and it's a trillion dollars in
• 1:30:42
  June when the IPO or July somewhere around there.
• 1:30:44
  So you know this is. What I keep telling people.
• 1:30:47
  If, if, if SpaceX can grow Starlink into a trillion dollar
• 1:30:51
  business in four years with no really, you know, very little
• 1:30:56
  M&O, you know, direct to device services, like really what can
• 1:31:01
  this grow to in four years? And when?
• 1:31:04
  You know, when, you know, a lot of these guys are just like
• 1:31:06
  technical analysts and they post charts and they're, you know,
• 1:31:09
  putting these price targets out $150.00 and they really don't
• 1:31:12
  understand much about the company, but they're like, OK,
• 1:31:14
  wave 3 going to go here, right? You know, and really I, I look
• 1:31:19
  at that and I kind of like, you know, I kind of smirk when I
• 1:31:22
  read that stuff because they don't, I don't know if like, you
• 1:31:25
  know, maybe some of them like reform trader, good friend, good
• 1:31:28
  guy, knows a lot of stuff about the industry, you know, those
• 1:31:32
  studies, the fundamentals. Also, he's not just a technical
• 1:31:34
  guy but. But.
• 1:31:37
  You know some of these other guys they're.
• 1:31:38
  Just posting charts and they don't really know what they're
• 1:31:40
  they're actually looking at, right?
• 1:31:43
  You know, Meanwhile I have AI have a fractal chart.
• 1:31:49
  Yeah, but yeah, that. But but you but you know.
• 1:31:52
  More than I do about this business, you know, like, and
• 1:31:54
  I'm, I'm in this, you know, and again, I, I, you know, Mike, the
• 1:31:58
  clients that I've introduced, I've introduced 3 strategics to
• 1:32:02
  SpaceX that I've invested multiple times over the last
• 1:32:05
  five years. And so they probably own like 4
• 1:32:08
  or $5 billion worth of stock at that IPO price.
• 1:32:11
  So, so like, you know, these are, these are guys that are in
• 1:32:15
  the business and I've mentioned AST to them.
• 1:32:17
  I've said like, are you guys worried about this?
• 1:32:18
  Like, you know, you guys have you guys.
• 1:32:20
  Taken a look at this. I've said it to them and they
• 1:32:23
  don't know. Yeah, and.
• 1:32:24
  That's beauty. Like no one really knows.
• 1:32:27
  Broadly speaking, it's just just a few of us.
• 1:32:31
  Yeah, they. Don't know they.
• 1:32:32
  Don't they don't realize they I don't know if they and they
• 1:32:35
  don't want to know or they just you know, just a few of us in in
• 1:32:39
  the top global M and OS and Google, you know, just just a
• 1:32:42
  few of us, right. Right, it's.
• 1:32:45
  Not like nobody knows, right? I mean, it's out there and
• 1:32:48
  there's big investors behind this, behind any of these
• 1:32:50
  baseball. Well, it's not like they're, you
• 1:32:52
  know, coming forward with a a bunch of amateur investors.
• 1:32:55
  So it it's odd to me that. It's they're still.
• 1:32:59
  Not, you know, this kind of adoption.
• 1:33:01
  When I posted tonight, I retweeted Scott's post on it.
• 1:33:04
  You know, guy has 8000 followers and he's the president of a
• 1:33:07
  company that could be a trillion dollar company in three years.
• 1:33:09
  Yeah, four years. You know, why does he have 8000
• 1:33:13
  followers? I mean, SpaceX has 40 million
• 1:33:15
  followers on their Twitter, on their XML.
• 1:33:18
  So, you know, it's it. That's how really it is, I feel.
• 1:33:21
  And it's just. It's just crazy.
• 1:33:24
  I mean and listen, this is. Not to take anything away from
• 1:33:26
  SpaceX or any of the investors that I've put forward to them or
• 1:33:29
  anything like that, Like SpaceX will be a huge company, right?
• 1:33:32
  It will be a multi trillion dollar company.
• 1:33:34
  Like they're going to do great things.
• 1:33:36
  You know, we should be more, we should be thinking about SpaceX
• 1:33:40
  as more of a partner than anything else, right?
• 1:33:42
  Obviously they're launching our satellites for us as well.
• 1:33:45
  Like this should not be like a, a winner take all business,
• 1:33:49
  right? There's 1300 cell tower
• 1:33:50
  companies in the world so yeah there can't just only be there
• 1:33:55
  can't just only be 1 you know direct, you know to device
• 1:34:00
  satellite company. There can't.
• 1:34:01
  There just shouldn't be. There shouldn't be it it it it's
• 1:34:03
  not good infrastructure to have one company run everything so
• 1:34:08
  you. Know think of it that way.
• 1:34:09
  You know, SpaceX, SpaceX is going to do great.
• 1:34:11
  Like, you know, ASD can do great too.
• 1:34:13
  I mean, everybody, you know, there's plenty of room for for
• 1:34:15
  both of us. Yeah, No, I agree.
• 1:34:17
  I agree. And when, when SpaceX goes
• 1:34:20
  public, you know, this summer, it'll be, it'll be a huge event
• 1:34:25
  and draw more attention, so better.
• 1:34:28
  Better for everyone. It'll be good, I agree.
• 1:34:31
  But but yeah man. Absolutely yeah, no, thanks for
• 1:34:35
  your continued posting on on AST and I think yeah, it's it's
• 1:34:40
  good. It's also good to get your
• 1:34:41
  perspective in regards to SpaceX and as someone who's you've
• 1:34:46
  facilitated a lot of those secondary transactions.
• 1:34:49
  But, but yeah, no, I hope you, I hope you get better that you
• 1:34:53
  recover from, from your cold. Yeah, I, it's I, I have kids
• 1:34:57
  that are similar ages and there's some, there's a bunch of
• 1:35:00
  stuff going around New York. So, so, yeah, we're we're at
• 1:35:03
  that. And thanks, Thank you.
• 1:35:05
  And, and you know, the OG ASD guys for, you know, you and Todd
• 1:35:11
  and, and TKO and Kook and Catsy and you guys are, I mean, you
• 1:35:17
  guys are like, you know, satellite you, you're, you're, I
• 1:35:20
  don't know how much satellite engineering you guys are, are,
• 1:35:23
  are Privy with, But I mean, the information that you guys give
• 1:35:27
  is really awesome. And there's really no other
• 1:35:29
  community like this. There's no other, you know, I've
• 1:35:32
  never come across anything that's like this, you know,
• 1:35:35
  intuitive. And you know, one thing I said
• 1:35:38
  to one of my family members tonight that she was like asking
• 1:35:44
  me like, you know, I said to her X amount of money that her and
• 1:35:47
  her husband put in. You know, I was like, it could
• 1:35:49
  be this in three years. And she like couldn't believe
• 1:35:51
  it. And I said to her, well, you
• 1:35:53
  know, Facebook, when Facebook IP owed, it was a just a poor
• 1:35:56
  example. But like when Facebook IP owed
• 1:35:59
  in 2012, it was $104 billion IPO price.
• 1:36:03
  I said you're investing in a potentially trillion dollar
• 1:36:05
  company. You know, I think they invested
• 1:36:08
  at like I think it was, you know, maybe they invested at
• 1:36:10
  like 8 billion when they got in was the valuation.
• 1:36:13
  I think they they bought like in the in the 20s, right, right,
• 1:36:17
  something like that. And I said, you know, you
• 1:36:19
  invested in a company that could be a trillion dollars.
• 1:36:22
  At 8 billion, I said. Facebook IPO to 104 billion or
• 1:36:25
  whatever it was 13 years ago. So think of it like that, I
• 1:36:30
  said. The upside is just ginormous.
• 1:36:32
  It's so big, it's like this is the biggest thing and then it's
• 1:36:35
  it's not only the, it's not only just the the upside, but it's
• 1:36:38
  the you know, you think about the margin profile of this
• 1:36:41
  company, It's a it's the margin profile of a meta 80% or higher.
• 1:36:45
  Yeah, with the with. The.
• 1:36:47
  Scalability of a Netflix Yeah, it's pretty and you know, you
• 1:36:51
  think. About that, how the?
• 1:36:52
  The power of that and what what multiple do you put on that?
• 1:36:57
  You know. You know, is it is it 50 times
• 1:36:59
  sales early on? Is it 100 times sales early on?
• 1:37:02
  Because you know the sales are going to grow so much as that as
• 1:37:05
  that subscription growth comes in.
• 1:37:08
  You know, so it's like it's it could really get crazy.
• 1:37:11
  And then you think about that and you think about, you know,
• 1:37:14
  you know, X the seven or 8 million shares that are held
• 1:37:17
  short because of the converts. You think about the.
• 1:37:20
  Other. 28 million shares that are still short, you know, you
• 1:37:26
  know, speculatively short. Yeah.
• 1:37:29
  Like, you know, where could this go?
• 1:37:31
  When the right headline or the right contract or the right, you
• 1:37:34
  know, it it eventually to your point, one thing you always say
• 1:37:37
  that's, that's that you know, it resonates is the puzzle pieces
• 1:37:41
  just continue to click into place.
• 1:37:43
  And you know, as those puzzle pieces come into place, you know
• 1:37:47
  that short interest is going to get blown out and those
• 1:37:50
  institutions are going to see the value.
• 1:37:52
  And really like 24 billion or 25 billion is kind of like a floor
• 1:37:56
  when you really think about it. I mean, you think about the IP,
• 1:37:58
  you think about the, the spectrum, you know, you think
• 1:38:01
  about the the cash on the balance sheet.
• 1:38:02
  And you think about the certainty of how as these
• 1:38:06
  launches continue to happen and as this launch schedule schedule
• 1:38:10
  continues to to to play out, the certainty of those contracts
• 1:38:15
  behind those launches or is going to get more and more
• 1:38:18
  certain. So the cash flow, the cash flow
• 1:38:21
  is, is getting more and more certain as every one of these
• 1:38:23
  launches happen. And and so like the market's
• 1:38:26
  going to have to start pricing that in.
• 1:38:28
  And if you're thinking about the market as a discounting
• 1:38:30
  mechanism, 6 months, nine months out, right, six months, nine
• 1:38:34
  months out from now, we'll have, we'll probably have a first that
• 1:38:36
  contract, you know, we'll probably have Commercial
• 1:38:38
  Services in the USI mean, so you know, you know, the market has
• 1:38:43
  to start discounting that now and.
• 1:38:46
  And that's why. I think we can easily trade to
• 1:38:48
  150 or 250, you know, 150 two $150.00 per share in the in the
• 1:38:54
  near term and then 250 by that's basics IPO because really it's
• 1:38:58
  just a valuation comparison. But you know, the cash flows and
• 1:39:01
  the certainty of those cash flows really or the underlying
• 1:39:06
  is the underlying driver of what's going to make the stock
• 1:39:09
  hit those levels. It's not, you know, you can't
• 1:39:11
  just say OK, because SpaceX, you know, I say this a lot, I just
• 1:39:14
  want to clarify this, I say this a lot.
• 1:39:16
  SpaceX is going to hit 1.5 trillion upon IPO in June or
• 1:39:19
  July. You know, Elon's birthday is
• 1:39:21
  June 28th. You know, maybe the IPO June
• 1:39:23
  28th. So SpaceX will hit that 1.5
• 1:39:25
  trillion. You can't just say, OK, ASD is
• 1:39:27
  going hit 3.75 X, which is what I said, right?
• 1:39:31
  Because that's the, you know, 400 billion to 1.5 trillion is
• 1:39:34
  3.75 X. You can't just say you know
• 1:39:36
  SpaceX is going to hit 1.5 trillion because you know, in in
• 1:39:40
  June, July. So ASD should hit, you know, 90
• 1:39:44
  billion, which is 3.7524 billion.
• 1:39:48
  There has to be a fundamental. Reason behind that right the
• 1:39:50
  market's not stupid the market doesn't just you know put fluff
• 1:39:53
  valuations on anything I mean you know well you can you can be
• 1:39:57
  you know I'm obviously nothing bad of a palateer but you could
• 1:39:59
  you could trade at 100 times sales with 20% growth but you
• 1:40:02
  know if. You're.
• 1:40:03
  If you're a start up quote, UN quote and you have this huge
• 1:40:08
  growth, you know in. Front.
• 1:40:10
  Of you really. I mean, you know, you can trade
• 1:40:13
  it anything. Yeah.
• 1:40:14
  So you know. There, but there has to.
• 1:40:17
  Be a fundamental, you know the market has to believe it, there
• 1:40:20
  has to be a fundamental basis to that.
• 1:40:22
  And the fundamental basis is that those cash flows, if you
• 1:40:25
  compare what Starlink has done with 8 million subscribers in
• 1:40:29
  four or five years of Commercial Services and you think about the
• 1:40:32
  scalability of of AST with their M&O partnerships and how quickly
• 1:40:38
  they could get to 8 million, I mean 8 million could come on a
• 1:40:41
  weekend. Yeah, once you.
• 1:40:43
  Turn on, once you turn on AT&T and you turn on, you know,
• 1:40:46
  Verizon in the US and then you, you know, turn on Europe and
• 1:40:51
  Vodafone. Like, I mean, that could come in
• 1:40:52
  a week then, you know, for them. So I mean, 8 million
• 1:40:55
  subscribers. Sterling spent five years
• 1:40:57
  acquiring 8 million subscribers like this.
• 1:41:00
  This is so much bigger. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:04
  I mean, and I know people aren't paying $100 a month or whatever.
• 1:41:07
  They're paying for Starlink. Starlink's $8 a month or $100 a
• 1:41:09
  month or whatever it is for a subscriber, but.
• 1:41:13
  But you know. But if?
• 1:41:16
  It's $10 a. Month OK so 8 you know 8 you
• 1:41:19
  would get you would have to you know it would have to be
• 1:41:21
  whatever it would have to be you know 10 times that but you.
• 1:41:25
  Know that could. Happen really quickly.
• 1:41:27
  So if you think about the path at which AST could get to a
• 1:41:31
  trillion dollars, it could come quicker.
• 1:41:34
  Than what? Starlink.
• 1:41:35
  Did because of those. M&O partnerships.
• 1:41:38
  In that model, it's just, it's really remarkable and it's
• 1:41:41
  genius, the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, it's we can.
• 1:41:47
  The amount of white space here, you can dream pretty big.
• 1:41:50
  And the way that the business model is constructed that it's,
• 1:41:54
  yeah, it's almost like a flip of the switch once the
• 1:41:56
  constellation's up. So, and that's not, that's not
• 1:41:59
  including government revenue. That's not including, you know,
• 1:42:02
  all the first responder stuff. Like this is this is, you know,
• 1:42:05
  there's, there's, there's, there's so many as, you know,
• 1:42:08
  people used to always love to say about Meta when Meta first
• 1:42:11
  went public. And, you know, and they had all
• 1:42:14
  the different, you know, they had WhatsApp, they had Facebook,
• 1:42:16
  that Instagram. There's different leverage that
• 1:42:18
  they could pull. That's the way that they're
• 1:42:20
  going to be talking about AST. There's all these different
• 1:42:22
  levers. There's government, there's
• 1:42:24
  first responder, you know, first responder government, you know,
• 1:42:27
  different buckets. Defense, you know, there's a
• 1:42:29
  defense bucket. There's, you know, there's the
• 1:42:31
  first responder bucket. There's commercials, there's the
• 1:42:33
  commercial bucket. You know, there's, there's US,
• 1:42:36
  there's Europe, there's Japan, there's all these different
• 1:42:38
  levers they can pull. There's Canada bell.
• 1:42:41
  Like there's that's going to be the story.
• 1:42:43
  And it's just it to me, it's, you know, knock on wood, I don't
• 1:42:47
  want to, I don't want to put the cart before the horse.
• 1:42:50
  I don't want to, you know, put put the jinx on anything but
• 1:42:53
  this like there's there's so much in front of this company.
• 1:42:57
  There's so many levers they can pull.
• 1:42:58
  There's so many things that, you know, you've said it on your
• 1:43:01
  spaces before. How many things add up, right?
• 1:43:04
  All these different things you think about, you know, Kook Kook
• 1:43:08
  actually on his spaces the other day was what, you know,
• 1:43:10
  referenced me as as an emotional guy, but he loves me because of
• 1:43:15
  it. But I said, but he said, you
• 1:43:18
  know, he, he referenced my math about Firstnet.
• 1:43:20
  And you you think about that it's 15 to 20 billion.
• 1:43:22
  And then you think about, you know, you know, frontline at
• 1:43:27
  Verizon, that's another ten billion.
• 1:43:28
  And then you think about, you know, golden Dome and you think
• 1:43:31
  about, you know, this and that and there's just so many
• 1:43:34
  different things that add up and it's just to me, 25 billion.
• 1:43:38
  Well, or just put it simply, what Elon paid for Echostar
• 1:43:41
  Spectrum 22 billion. That's the floor.
• 1:43:43
  Like yeah, you, you could, you why would you ever sell this
• 1:43:46
  stock below 22 billion? Yeah, if she like 22 billion
• 1:43:50
  perspective, right, yeah, no, I, I, you, you make great points.
• 1:43:55
  I I mean, I, I think yeah, I think we're all in agreement for
• 1:43:59
  sure. So that's the floor.
• 1:44:01
  Yeah, but hey, endless I I want to thank you.
• 1:44:04
  There's like two other people waiting.
• 1:44:07
  Then I actually got to go out of bed.
• 1:44:08
  But thanks so much for joining me.
• 1:44:10
  And it's, it's good to hear your voice finally and to, to hear a
• 1:44:15
  bit more about you. I, I, I didn't know a little bit
• 1:44:17
  about you, but but yeah, I know it's cool to, to talk and yeah,
• 1:44:21
  you have to come back up at some point again.
• 1:44:24
  Are you going to And yeah, come down to Florida too.
• 1:44:26
  If, if you have a chance, I would like to, it would be
• 1:44:29
  great. I, you know, I, I do a lot of,
• 1:44:31
  of coaching for my kids and. If I can get.
• 1:44:35
  Down there and and get away for a few days.
• 1:44:37
  You know I'll definitely do it. Cool.
• 1:44:39
  All right, man. Well, happy holidays and we'll
• 1:44:42
  look forward to the 23rd man We'll we'll all be watching.
• 1:44:47
  Yeah, absolutely. We're going to my local friends.
• 1:44:50
  We're going to we're going to do a poker game that night to just
• 1:44:53
  they're all invested too. So we're going to we're we'll
• 1:44:55
  play while the launch is happening.
• 1:44:56
  Hopefully it goes well. Thanks man.
• 1:44:59
  Thanks man, talk to you. Hey, Johnny Bangs.
• 1:45:03
  You there? Hey guys, can you hear me?
• 1:45:06
  Yeah, we can hear you. OK, Cool.
• 1:45:09
  I lost connect. I lost connection before I had
• 1:45:11
  to run outside. I'm actually I'm standing in the
• 1:45:13
  freezing cold in order to do this, but I just want to do it
• 1:45:17
  about your background and and all the Tyler AST.
• 1:45:21
  Yeah, so. If my phone keeps saying I'm
• 1:45:24
  losing connection, ironically it always happens.
• 1:45:27
  It just points out a great need for AST to get up and running.
• 1:45:32
  But and so I invested on the day of DA actually, I got caught up
• 1:45:37
  in the SPAC craze. I'll keep it.
• 1:45:39
  I'll keep this story short and sweet, but basically I ran into
• 1:45:42
  Dai. Remember the exact moment I was
• 1:45:45
  actually on the toilet. I I was you just like goo.
• 1:45:49
  I remember it was, it was before, before I was heading
• 1:45:53
  into work and, you know, I'm flipping through my phone and
• 1:45:56
  that was, you know, those were the days were just headlines
• 1:45:58
  were hitting it, you know, 7:00 in the morning and you see Spax
• 1:46:01
  line up 2030%, you know, on some of this news.
• 1:46:06
  And I remember seeing ASTMPA and it really caught my attention.
• 1:46:12
  I, I bought a little bit of it just being the D Gen. that I am.
• 1:46:17
  And I guess I'll just I'll throw out that I'm also a a pharmacist
• 1:46:21
  like Corey. Oh my gosh.
• 1:46:24
  And Farm gear Arizona. I know, I think that's been a
• 1:46:28
  kind of a theme tonight with having some of these healthcare
• 1:46:30
  workers on there, bud people. Yes, yes, for sure.
• 1:46:35
  So anyways. About the morning.
• 1:46:38
  Of DA and I was involved in a couple of other, you know specs
• 1:46:42
  of the time, but is is they fell out of favor and, you know
• 1:46:46
  eventually got exposed to AST really, you know stood above the
• 1:46:50
  rest. And as I was learning, you know,
• 1:46:54
  more and more about the company through all the contributors,
• 1:46:58
  you know great thanks to you guys that that that really made
• 1:47:02
  me, you know, hold on for dear life through that great sell off
• 1:47:06
  of I think, you know, 2021-2022. And you know looking back now
• 1:47:11
  what a blessing it was to be able to buy some of those leaps
• 1:47:15
  whenever the Commons were down it two 3-4 dollars and at one.
• 1:47:20
  Yeah. And I I've always lived very
• 1:47:23
  frugally and I've always had a you know, kind of a vision of,
• 1:47:27
  you know, I kind of want to get out of the rat race and AST has
• 1:47:30
  provided me that and yeah, like at one point I was I was down
• 1:47:35
  like a couple $100,000 on this and, you know that's when they
• 1:47:41
  everything started to turn around with this this AT&T news.
• 1:47:45
  I mean, you guys all went through this as well.
• 1:47:47
  And, you know, I sold a little bit after that pop.
• 1:47:50
  I think just because, you know, after a few years of getting
• 1:47:52
  your ass kicked, you thought, OK, well, it's, it's going to
• 1:47:56
  pop. It's just pops 7080% in a day.
• 1:47:58
  And I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, cash out a little bit
• 1:48:02
  and it's going to pull back. And it never did.
• 1:48:04
  And then the Verizon news came and, you know, I realized that I
• 1:48:08
  made a mistake and it went all back in, you know, and it just
• 1:48:13
  never looked back. And so I was down 80%, a couple,
• 1:48:16
  $100,000 at one point, but which was kind of bad timing.
• 1:48:20
  I got in a little early, but better, you know, early than not
• 1:48:24
  at all. But my wife, when she went on
• 1:48:28
  maternity leave and left her job to, you know, stay at home with
• 1:48:31
  our children, she gave me, you know, basically her life
• 1:48:35
  savings. So I said 20 say she gave me a
• 1:48:38
  lot of shit. No.
• 1:48:42
  No, I, I'm like kook. I don't, I, I don't have to
• 1:48:44
  report all the intraday lows, you know, but she gave you her
• 1:48:48
  life savings. Wow.
• 1:48:50
  Well. Yeah, it was.
• 1:48:50
  It was. Twenty $25,000 at that time, you
• 1:48:54
  know, we're relatively young and whatever.
• 1:48:56
  So it's, it's what she had and she was going to stay at, she
• 1:48:59
  was going to stay at home with the kids.
• 1:49:01
  And you know, I was, I'm going to keep working.
• 1:49:03
  And but she's like, hey, here's, here's what I got.
• 1:49:07
  And she gave me twenty $20,000 whenever the stock was at 3.
• 1:49:12
  And yeah, yeah, she just totally trusted me with it.
• 1:49:17
  And, and I bought a bunch of leaps and that's kind of how
• 1:49:21
  I've been playing it all along is, you know, I, there's a lot
• 1:49:24
  of Maritone in Commons for sure. But I've, I've been mostly
• 1:49:27
  invested in kind of leaps and rolling this forward all the way
• 1:49:30
  up. But I mean, impeccable timing
• 1:49:33
  with that gift. But I'm kind of rambling on.
• 1:49:37
  But anyways, it's I, I mainly wanted to jump on here and, and
• 1:49:41
  kind of think the OG and the contributors and just ready,
• 1:49:46
  ready for the next leg up. Yeah.
• 1:49:49
  No thanks. Thanks.
• 1:49:50
  For coming on, it seems like we've got a lot of pharmacists,
• 1:49:55
  pharmacists, doctors, nurses, healthcare workers.
• 1:49:59
  I, I, I see a theme here, which is yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:02
  And my my first child was born the week of Blue Walker 3.
• 1:50:08
  And then my second child was born.
• 1:50:09
  I can't remember. You didn't.
• 1:50:11
  Post about that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:13
  Yeah, you. You reposted it.
• 1:50:15
  So so my third child is actually, you know, due in
• 1:50:21
  April. So we'll see.
• 1:50:22
  I think there's there must be big things coming.
• 1:50:26
  But I never would have thought, you know, whenever she went to
• 1:50:28
  stay home with the kids, you know, that's usually a
• 1:50:30
  financial, you know, stressor. And here I am, you know, three
• 1:50:36
  or four years later with more money than I could have ever
• 1:50:39
  dreamed of. Like you know, I'm already at.
• 1:50:43
  You know my. Financial goals like I never
• 1:50:45
  would have thought I would have had this much money, but yet
• 1:50:47
  here we are before FM. 1. It's even launched and it's
• 1:50:54
  like, well, well, why stop now? I have so much conviction in the
• 1:50:57
  in this company and where it's heading.
• 1:50:59
  Just because I met Michael, I, I, I don't want to pull out now.
• 1:51:03
  I mean, we're just getting started.
• 1:51:04
  So it's, it's pretty crazy to think about where we could be,
• 1:51:08
  you know, 5 to 10 years from now.
• 1:51:09
  So I've, you know, I appreciate everyone for for, you know,
• 1:51:15
  taking me along on this ride. It's been amazing.
• 1:51:18
  What would you? Name your children.
• 1:51:19
  Blue Walker three, the first one.
• 1:51:24
  Yeah, there's there's a. Lot of right.
• 1:51:28
  There's a lot of recommendations thrown around, so I'll keep
• 1:51:31
  that. Private though.
• 1:51:32
  Yeah, yeah. Well, cool.
• 1:51:36
  Well, yeah. Thanks for coming up.
• 1:51:37
  I mean, yeah, that's for your for your wife to at the Lowe's
• 1:51:43
  say here's my life savings. I believe in you.
• 1:51:47
  And to go all. In that that's, that's a crazy
• 1:51:51
  story. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:51:55
  Pretty well, thanks, I'll let her know you said that.
• 1:51:58
  It'll mean a lot to her. This.
• 1:52:00
  This bread man. This cartoon.
• 1:52:02
  Guy on Twitter said that you're a keeper.
• 1:52:06
  And I listened to. I listened.
• 1:52:07
  To everything he says so you know.
• 1:52:10
  Yeah. Well, thanks for coming.
• 1:52:11
  Out, man. It's good talking.
• 1:52:12
  Yeah, I appreciate it. I hope to meet some of you guys
• 1:52:15
  with the launch. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 1:52:18
  Let's see. So it's it's almost 12 Pran, are
• 1:52:21
  you still there? Hey, Anthony.
• 1:52:25
  Hey, how's it? Going you want.
• 1:52:27
  To you want to close it you. Know I I.
• 1:52:30
  I. Don't know how much they add.
• 1:52:32
  Because you know, I've had my the chance to tell my story.
• 1:52:35
  I just heard that you asked me if I'd be up in the beginning,
• 1:52:38
  but I think I'll I'll close it by.
• 1:52:41
  Go ahead. Actually, hold on one second,
• 1:52:42
  there's. Kevin, I forgot about Kevin.
• 1:52:45
  It's weird. Like Twitter, people drop in and
• 1:52:47
  out. So Kevin, are you still there?
• 1:52:51
  Yeah, I'm here. Hey, do you want to share your?
• 1:52:53
  Story real quick. Oh gosh.
• 1:52:55
  Yeah, yeah. I joined in late, but boy, it's
• 1:52:57
  been fantastic putting voices to x.com icons here.
• 1:53:02
  Yeah, this is the other Kevin in Portland, OR.
• 1:53:06
  What an amazing. There's a lot of Kevin's and a
• 1:53:08
  lot of. Pharmacists.
• 1:53:09
  Yeah, yeah, I'm a. I'm a water resources engineer,
• 1:53:12
  that's my vocation. And I, I kind of restarted my
• 1:53:17
  twitterorx.com profile for my avocation in photography, but
• 1:53:23
  it's been commandeered by AST. So that happens, it seems.
• 1:53:28
  Yeah. So, so great to just, you know,
• 1:53:31
  follow all you guys and gals and wonderful, real, real quick
• 1:53:37
  approaching the midnight hour for you there.
• 1:53:39
  Yeah, I asked one of my questions, got through to Scott
• 1:53:43
  for the Q3 earnings call and that was, you know, are you just
• 1:53:46
  still going to have the get togethers at the launches?
• 1:53:50
  And I was hoping he, you know, really provide some specifics.
• 1:53:53
  But yeah, he didn't. But it's good to know FM 2 is is
• 1:53:59
  rolling its way over there and I had to bite the bullet.
• 1:54:02
  My wife and I scheduled a vacation to Florida January 10
• 1:54:07
  through 17. So my fingers are crossed that
• 1:54:10
  maybe, maybe the launch could be that week, but hopefully,
• 1:54:16
  hopefully we can or I can get back at some point and actually
• 1:54:20
  meet all you guys anyway. And I've, I've been posting a
• 1:54:24
  bunch of things, but one thing that's kind of close to my
• 1:54:27
  heart, as an engineer, I like to solve problems and I I deal with
• 1:54:30
  water and dirt. But but now I'm interested in
• 1:54:34
  aluminum oxide and the deorbiting problems of a certain
• 1:54:40
  company that's deorbiting thousands of satellites.
• 1:54:43
  So hopefully there's more to conversation on that and I'll
• 1:54:46
  stop there. Thanks so much.
• 1:54:48
  Yeah. Thanks for coming up.
• 1:54:49
  Yeah. It's, it's, I mean, to your
• 1:54:51
  point, the the last thing you talked about, it is something
• 1:54:53
  that I've I've thought about and I, I'm hoping eventually that
• 1:54:59
  there will be some technology where these reusable rockets the
• 1:55:02
  second stage when they come back that maybe they'll bring, I
• 1:55:06
  mean, I don't know how, how. How possible?
• 1:55:09
  That is because it, it's going to require more fuel or landing
• 1:55:13
  burn, but hopefully they can bring some of these things back
• 1:55:16
  instead of, you know, all the, all the satellites burning up
• 1:55:19
  in, in the atmosphere. Yeah, if you if you've got 10s
• 1:55:22
  of thousands of these things and that's a pretty big problem
• 1:55:25
  versus, you know, a few 100, which I think is, you know, it's
• 1:55:30
  still a problem, but it's more sustainable.
• 1:55:32
  Yeah, I'm going to think about it for sure.
• 1:55:35
  And I did DM. Catsy a while ago and understand
• 1:55:38
  AST is using more invar as opposed to aluminum, but it'd be
• 1:55:42
  great to know that they're producing a lot less oxide than
• 1:55:47
  other companies, right, right. Well, hey, thanks again.
• 1:55:50
  Yeah. Thanks for coming up.
• 1:55:53
  Yeah, so I guess it is getting kind of late.
• 1:55:56
  I'll, I'll have Paranya close it out.
• 1:55:59
  Yeah. How are you doing, Ben?
• 1:56:01
  Oh, good, good. Yeah, it's fantastic hearing
• 1:56:03
  everyone's stories, obviously very, very funny, very unique,
• 1:56:08
  very inspiring. Many ways you know.
• 1:56:10
  Somewhere. Right.
• 1:56:12
  Right. They're they're all, they're all
• 1:56:14
  pushing pills inside pharmacies. And but you know, I think it'd
• 1:56:21
  be fantastic. You should probably send the
• 1:56:23
  recording of this. I don't know if Sonia Bloomberg
• 1:56:25
  would have the time to listen to the entire thing, but I think
• 1:56:28
  it'd give her some great perspective.
• 1:56:31
  And I, I guess I'll close with this.
• 1:56:32
  So I had coffee with Honk Waffle this morning and he told me that
• 1:56:38
  he likes to put on your spaces every time he he runs.
• 1:56:43
  And his goal is to keep running until you stop talking.
• 1:56:47
  So with that in mind, you know everyone, right?
• 1:56:51
  Everyone can hop off Honk Waffle and stay on.
• 1:56:53
  And I'm just going to recite the collective works of Shakespeare.
• 1:56:59
  Yeah, but. You know, Ampan, you know,
• 1:57:02
  thanks for hosting these spaces, keeping the community together
• 1:57:06
  and, you know, just generally helping everyone in the space
• 1:57:10
  mob get to know each other better.
• 1:57:11
  So, you know, you're a fantastic leader, and I think we're all
• 1:57:15
  very grateful for you. Yeah, I'm the I'm.
• 1:57:17
  The Jim Jones of this space. Yeah, we we love your Kool.
• 1:57:22
  Aid buddy. Thanks.
• 1:57:23
  Yeah, no. Thanks everyone for joining.
• 1:57:26
  I, I wish we could keep going, but yeah, it's getting late.
• 1:57:29
  And, and our daughter, she, she still has school tomorrow.
• 1:57:31
  So she's not out until I think Tuesday.
• 1:57:35
  But yeah, thanks everyone for joining.
• 1:57:37
  As I've mentioned before, we are going to do a joint space on
• 1:57:42
  Tuesday evening and I think we're going to start maybe an
• 1:57:45
  hour to two hours ahead of time. And so the launch is going to be
• 1:57:50
  at 10:24 PM Eastern Standard Time.
• 1:57:53
  And so Kook myself, Tut, like Katsi and a few others will be
• 1:57:59
  on. And then, as I mentioned before,
• 1:58:03
  I think. We might get APR.
• 1:58:06
  Tomorrow or perhaps Tuesday or Wednesday that that FM 2 will
• 1:58:12
  be, you know has arrived in Florida.
• 1:58:14
  So that that's something to look forward to.
• 1:58:16
  And then as I mentioned before, I think we are going to see this
• 1:58:21
  is just based off due diligence and speculation, but I, I would
• 1:58:25
  think we're, we're probably going to be pretty close to
• 1:58:27
  seeing the first batch of composite Bluebirds shipped to
• 1:58:30
  Florida. And so whether that happens
• 1:58:32
  before your end or, or, you know, early January, you know,
• 1:58:35
  we'll see and. Then aside from.
• 1:58:38
  That, you know, the work never ends.
• 1:58:39
  Like there's I think there's going to be some big news coming
• 1:58:42
  in January, I think in regards to M and OS.
• 1:58:46
  And so yeah, I mean it's going to be a pretty crazy time and
• 1:58:51
  and it's all hitting at the right time.
• 1:58:53
  Like we've got a great economic backdrop with, with interest
• 1:58:58
  rates probably going to continue to go down as inflation seems to
• 1:59:02
  be somewhat tamed and CPI numbers came in lower and then
• 1:59:06
  you've. Got.
• 1:59:07
  Like oil continue to crater and I mean, obviously there's
• 1:59:11
  there's any number of things that can happen in the world to,
• 1:59:13
  you know, put the market off kilter.
• 1:59:14
  But with this administration, I don't want to get political but
• 1:59:19
  with, but it is what it is like with this administration having
• 1:59:23
  a keen focus on space and it being an area of, you know, of
• 1:59:29
  competition with China and resources, you know.
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  Everything. Being marshaled around it, I
• 1:59:36
  think this is going to be a tremendous year for for ASD
• 1:59:40
  Space Mobile and for a number of other companies as well.
• 1:59:42
  And so, yeah, it's an exciting time.
• 1:59:45
  I mean, I, I don't, I don't know of.
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  Any. More exciting than I've ever
• 1:59:50
  been because now the five years is that we've been waiting is,
• 1:59:55
  is yeah. Now the proof is in the pudding.
• 1:59:57
  Like Commercial Services could be launched and you're going to
• 2:00:00
  have more M and OS sign up. And we're we're going to
• 2:00:05
  conceivably or hopefully the some of us are going to be beta
• 2:00:07
  testers for the service initially.
• 2:00:09
  And then of course it's going to as the constellation gets built
• 2:00:11
  out then then the roll out commercial service.
• 2:00:14
  And then? You know we haven't.
• 2:00:16
  Talked about military and of course, Firstnet and Firstnet in
• 2:00:19
  Europe, you know, just a lot of stuff to talk about, which I
• 2:00:23
  think endless, endless got sucked into the whole, you know,
• 2:00:28
  he's clearly super excited. And so he he talked about all
• 2:00:32
  the exciting things that are coming up.
• 2:00:33
  And so I'm not going to repeat them, but but yeah, it's, it's a
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  good time. So thanks everyone for joining
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  and we'll see what tomorrow brings.
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  I think overnight stocks already at 80 bucks.
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  So that's a good start. But but yeah, thanks and talk
• 2:00:47
  with you. Take care everyone.
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