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Childhood Friend Turns Into Gruesome Murderer · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine you are an Uber driver. You're crossing a dark,
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  Speaker 1: freezing bridge at like 2 o'clock in the morning on
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  Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: December, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, December 3rd, 2016. So the wind is just whipping
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  Speaker 1: off the Atlantic Ocean. And as you navigate this span
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  Speaker 1: of the Belmar Bridge, which arches right over the Shark
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  Speaker 1: River Inlet, your headlights sweep across something entirely out of place.
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  Speaker 3: Just something that should not be there at 2 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. You see a car parked dead in the center lane.
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  Speaker 1: The engine is actually still warm.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And the keys are sitting right there in the ignition.
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  Speaker 1: But as you slow down and look through the windows,
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  Speaker 1: there's absolutely no one around.
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  Speaker 3: That is just, it's such a chilling image.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And you haven't just stumbled upon a
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  Speaker 1: missing person's case here. You have stumbled onto the very
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  Speaker 1: first frame of a meticulously scripted real-life horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome to today's deep dive. We are opening a
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  Speaker 1: case file curated from the Law and Crime Network, And
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  Speaker 1: it details the disappearance and ultimate murder of 19-year-old Sarah Stern.
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  Speaker 3: Which is just a tragic, tragic case.
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  Speaker 1: It is. But our mission today, for you listening, is
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  Speaker 1: not just to trace the timeline of a tragedy. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to completely deconstruct the anatomy of a betrayal. Like,
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  Speaker 1: how does a 13-year childhood friendship devolve into a calculated
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  Speaker 1: murder for just a few thousand dollars?
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  Speaker 3: Right. The psychology of it is wild.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to examine the psychological misdirection used to baffle investigators.
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  Speaker 1: the forensic science that dismantled those lies, and the arrogant
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  Speaker 1: tiny mistakes that eventually brought the perpetrators down.
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  Speaker 2: And to truly understand the architecture of this crime, we
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  Speaker 2: really have to start by analyzing the psychological impact of
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  Speaker 2: that initial scene on the bridge.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Belmar Bridge connects Belmar and Neptune City. It's
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  Speaker 2: a functional piece of infrastructure. You know, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: scenic overlook.
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  Speaker 1: No one's just parking there for the view at 2 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So when local police respond to that Uber driver's 911 call.
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  Speaker 3: they are immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Confronted with this specific set of visual cues. You've got
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  Speaker 2: an old, light-colored Oldsmobile 88, abandoned, keys in the ignition,
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  Speaker 2: poised right over a deep, fast-moving body of water that
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  Speaker 2: feeds into the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 1: Which is terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: It is. And these visual.
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  Speaker 2: Cues trigger an immediate, almost subconscious categorization process for those
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  Speaker 2: first responders.
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  Speaker 1: Because, I mean, an abandoned running car... In a location
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  Speaker 1: like that, it forces a binary assumption, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Like a vehicle is a means of transportation. You don't
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  Speaker 1: leave it running unless your journey was violently interrupted or
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  Speaker 1: you've reached a destination where you just, you no longer
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  Speaker 1: need a car.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You either ran for your life from a threat
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  Speaker 2: inside the car or you went over the edge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It presents this classic locked room mystery, but staged
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  Speaker 1: entirely out in the open.
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  Speaker 2: And that spatial paradox is what makes the initial investigation
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  Speaker 2: so complex. So the police run the plates and discover
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  Speaker 2: the vehicle is registered to a woman named Lillian Stern,
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  Speaker 2: who is a 96-year-old matriarch of this massive local family.
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  Speaker 1: Like 15 grandchildren and dozens of great-grandchildren, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, huge family.
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  Speaker 2: And investigators quickly figure out that the car was primarily
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  Speaker 2: used by one of her granddaughters, 19-year-old Sarah Stern. So
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  Speaker 2: before the sun even comes up on December 3rd. The
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  Speaker 2: police have a name, a vehicle, and this terrifying set
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  Speaker 2: of environmental implications.
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  Speaker 1: And Sarah's profile just adds all these layers to the mystery.
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  Speaker 1: She was a 19-year-old art and TV production major at
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  Speaker 1: Brookdale Community College.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: She was really athletic, played softball, deeply embedded in her community.
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  Speaker 1: But to figure out how she ended up or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: didn't end up on that bridge, investigators had to reverse
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  Speaker 1: engineer her final 48 hours through her digital footprint.
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  Speaker 3: Which is where things get really stark.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. When I was reviewing the telecommunications data from the
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  Speaker 1: case file, the contrast between December 1st and December 2nd
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  Speaker 1: is just, it's a study in how quickly a digital
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  Speaker 1: life goes dark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, telecommunications data often provides the most unvarnished timeline of
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  Speaker 2: a person's state of mind. So on December 1st, Sarah's father,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Stern, was vacationing down in Florida. And the digital
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  Speaker 2: record shows a completely baseline healthy exchange. Michael texts Sarah
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  Speaker 2: a photo of Cinderella's castle at Disney World. And Sarah replies,
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  Speaker 2: she says, wow, the castle looks so pretty with the lights.
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  Speaker 1: It's so normal.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's a mundane, connective interaction. It establishes that as of
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  Speaker 2: December 1st, Sarah was engaged, communicative, participating in normal family dynamics.
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  Speaker 1: But then you fast forward to the evening of December 2nd,
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  Speaker 1: just after 10.30 p.m., Michael sends a text just saying,
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  Speaker 1: are you up?
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  Speaker 3: And nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, silence. Silence. As the night progresses, the data shows
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  Speaker 1: this escalating pattern of panic from her dad. He sends
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  Speaker 1: these rapid-fire messages like, Sarah, what's going on? Grandma's trying
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  Speaker 1: to get in touch with you. Why is your phone off?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's so hard to read.
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  Speaker 1: Call me when you get this message. And every single
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  Speaker 1: one of those pings just goes unanswered. The device is
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  Speaker 1: completely off the network.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and while Michael is experiencing this total digital void
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  Speaker 2: in Florida, detectives on the ground in New Jersey are
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  Speaker 2: physically canvassing Sarah's neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to piece it together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're knocking on doors, trying to bridge the gap
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  Speaker 2: between the Disney World text and the abandoned car. And
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  Speaker 2: during this neighborhood canvas on December 3rd, they uncover a
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  Speaker 2: behavioral artifact that just drastically shifts the lens of the investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the neighbor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. A neighbor reports that on the afternoon of December 2nd,
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  Speaker 2: Sarah had come over and dropped off a box of
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  Speaker 2: personal items.
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  Speaker 1: And these weren't just like... Random old clothes being donated
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  Speaker 1: to goodwill. Sarah specifically asked the neighbor to hold on
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  Speaker 1: to her late mother's belongings.
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  Speaker 3: Which is huge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Her mother had passed away from cancer in 2013,
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  Speaker 1: which was a loss that profoundly impacted Sarah, especially being
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  Speaker 1: an only child. She was handing over the most sentimental,
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  Speaker 1: irreplaceable objects she owned.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, viewing this from the outside, a layperson might just wonder,
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  Speaker 1: like maybe she was decluttering or preparing for a move.
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  Speaker 1: But why did investigators immediately classify this specific action as
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  Speaker 1: a severe psychological red flag?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the clinical protocols for assessing crisis behavior dictate that
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  Speaker 2: investigators look for deviations from baseline attachment. In the psychological
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  Speaker 2: literature around suicidal ideation, giving away highly prized, deeply sentimental possessions,
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  Speaker 2: which is often referred to as putting one's affairs in order,
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  Speaker 2: is recognized as a premier indicator of imminent self-harm.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's a huge warning sign.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: When a person gives away items that hold immense emotional weight,
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  Speaker 2: particularly items that anchor them to a deceased loved one,
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  Speaker 2: it often signals a total detachment from the future.
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  Speaker 1: So it creates this really powerful prevailing narrative for the cops.
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  Speaker 1: They have an empty car poised over a fatal drop,
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  Speaker 1: and they have the driver giving away her dead mother's
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  Speaker 1: precious keepsakes just hours beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It completely paints a picture of a young woman who
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  Speaker 1: had made a tragic final decision. But as we are
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  Speaker 1: about to uncover in this deep dive, that narrative was
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  Speaker 1: a trap.
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  Speaker 3: A literal trap.
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  Speaker 1: It was a perfectly constructed mirage designed to exploit those
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  Speaker 1: exact clinical protocols.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And to understand how that trap was set, we have
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  Speaker 1: to look at the person who stepped forward to act
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  Speaker 1: as the primary source of intelligence on Sarah's mental state.
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  Speaker 3: Right. At 4 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: On December 3rd, so just hours after the car is discovered...
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  Speaker 2: Police arrive at the home of Liam McCasney.
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  Speaker 1: And he's her best friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you're investigating a potential suicide or disappearance, your
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  Speaker 2: first operational priority is to interview the subject's closest confidants, right?
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  Speaker 2: You want to establish a psychological baseline. And Liam fit
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  Speaker 2: that description flawlessly.
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  Speaker 1: They were super close.
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  Speaker 2: They've been friends since the first grade, met in Sunday
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  Speaker 2: school at age six. He was part of this trio
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  Speaker 2: with his twin brother and Sarah that they called The Squad. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think the sociological term for this is a fictive
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  Speaker 1: kin relationship. Liam actually had Sarah listed under the family
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  Speaker 1: section on his Facebook profile. Wow. Yeah, he'd had a
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  Speaker 1: constant presence in her house during her mother's terminal cancer battle.
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  Speaker 1: He was, by all external metrics, her surrogate brother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he really was.
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  Speaker 1: So the police approach Liam expecting a devastated friend who
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  Speaker 1: can shed light on her struggles. But instead, they become
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  Speaker 1: the unwitting audience to this masterful exercise in narrative manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: It's honestly chilling to watch. The interrogation room footage of
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  Speaker 2: Liam's initial interview is a profound study in predatory psychology.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't just play dumb.
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  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't feign total ignorance. A less sophisticated liar
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  Speaker 2: might claim they have no idea why she would disappear.
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  Speaker 2: But Liam takes the complete opposite approach. He weaponizes the
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  Speaker 2: truth to construct a highly credible, entirely false psychological profile. Right.
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  Speaker 2: He tells the detectives that Sarah had been spiraling into
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  Speaker 2: depression since her mother's death.
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  Speaker 1: Let's analyze the mechanics of his strategy here, because I
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  Speaker 1: kind of view Liam's lies as a sort of software patch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's an interesting way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Like he observes the bugs or gaps in the police's
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  Speaker 1: current working theory, you know, the abandoned car, the given
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  Speaker 1: away clothes. And he writes a false narrative specifically designed
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  Speaker 1: to patch those gaps and make the police's system run
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  Speaker 1: smoothly in the wrong direction. Right. So he introduces this
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  Speaker 1: deeply insidious storyline about an abusive home life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he deliberately targets Michael Stern, who, remember, is currently
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  Speaker 2: in Florida frantically trying to reach his daughter. Liam refers
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  Speaker 2: to Michael as crazy and claims he stole Sarah's inheritance
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  Speaker 2: money after her mother died.
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  Speaker 1: Which is just awful. It is.
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  Speaker 2: He plants the idea that Sarah felt physically unsafe in
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  Speaker 2: her own home. He tells investigators that she frequently expressed
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  Speaker 2: fears her father would hurt her or that she would
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  Speaker 2: hurt herself just to escape him.
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  Speaker 1: So he provides the police with a push and a
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  Speaker 1: pull factor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The push is the abusive father driving her out of
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  Speaker 1: the house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the pull is this fantasy he introduces. He claims
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  Speaker 1: Sarah was desperate to run away and start a new
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  Speaker 1: life in Canada.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Canada runaway theory.
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  Speaker 1: But he doesn't even stop there. He layers in incredibly personal,
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  Speaker 1: complex red herrings to make the profile feel authentic. He
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  Speaker 1: introduces a whole narrative about her sexuality, claiming she was
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  Speaker 1: struggling with being closeted and was obsessed with lesbian YouTubers,
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  Speaker 1: suggesting family rejection was this massive stressor for her.
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  Speaker 2: And by introducing those granular, highly personal details, Liam achieves
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  Speaker 2: two things. First, he establishes himself as the ultimate insider, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: He proves he possesses secrets that even her family doesn't know,
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  Speaker 2: which elevates his credibility in the eyes of the detectives.
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  Speaker 2: And second, he feeds the confirmation.
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  Speaker 3: Bias of the investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Because it fits perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: If the police are leaning towards suicide due to the
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  Speaker 2: car on the bridge, Liam provides the depressive, isolated motive.
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  Speaker 2: If they're leaning toward a runaway scenario because of the
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  Speaker 2: packed boxes, Liam provides the destination, Canada.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he's waving his hands to command their attention,
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  Speaker 1: ensuring they look everywhere except at him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And when the police inevitably ask him to recount his
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: own movements on December 2nd to establish his alibi, his
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  Speaker 1: story is brilliant in its absolute mundanity.
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  Speaker 3: It's so boring, which makes it believable.
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  Speaker 1: Right. He doesn't invent some complex, unverifiable alibi. He tells
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  Speaker 1: them he called Sarah between 1.00 and 00 p.m. He
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: went over to her house, they hung out in her kitchen,
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  Speaker 1: ate Taco Bell, and played video games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he also casually mentions that he helped her
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  Speaker 2: pack some containers, which very neatly explains the moving boxes
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  Speaker 2: and reinforces that Canada runaway theory.
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  Speaker 1: Clever.
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  Speaker 2: The brilliance of this alibi is that it is partially verifiable.
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  Speaker 2: CCTV footage from a neighbor's security camera across the street...
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  Speaker 2: corroborates Liam leaving the house that afternoon exactly when he
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  Speaker 2: claimed he did.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So he places himself at the scene, but distances himself
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  Speaker 2: from the critical time frame of her disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: And what does he claim he did for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the evening? He says he went to his job
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  Speaker 1: as a server at a local restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And he looks at the detectives right in the eye
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  Speaker 1: and delivers this incredibly bold statement. He says he went
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  Speaker 1: to work and had one of the best nights of
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  Speaker 1: my life.
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  Speaker 3: That phrase is just, ugh.
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  Speaker 1: The subtext he is pushing is, Like, how could I
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  Speaker 1: possibly be exhibiting the joyous behavior of having the best
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  Speaker 1: night of my life if I knew my best friend
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  Speaker 1: was currently jumping off a bridge?
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  Speaker 2: Right. And this is where we see the psychological concept
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  Speaker 2: of duping delight begin to manifest.
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  Speaker 1: Suping delight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's the subtle, often subconscious pleasure a liar feels when
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  Speaker 2: they believe they are successfully deceiving a target. But despite
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  Speaker 2: this nearly flawless performance, Liam's arrogance actually compels him to
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  Speaker 2: make a critical slip.
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  Speaker 1: What does he do?
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of the interview, completely unprompted, he asks
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  Speaker 2: the investigators a question about the search efforts. Right.
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  Speaker 1: He leans in and asks, she did jump off the bridge.
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  Speaker 1: The odds are she's not somewhere all the way out
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  Speaker 1: in the ocean by now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When studying the behavioral analysis of perpetrators who inject themselves
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  Speaker 1: into investigations, this is a textbook maneuver. He is ostensibly
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  Speaker 1: acting as the grieving friend, agonizing over the morbid logistics
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  Speaker 1: of finding the body. But tactically. He is fishing for
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  Speaker 1: operational intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: He is attempting to ascertain the parameters of the search radius.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to know if the authorities believe the tidal
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  Speaker 2: currents have carried the evidence out to sea.
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  Speaker 1: Because that would mean he's safe.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It is an extraordinary display of hubris. He really
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  Speaker 2: believes he is steering a room full of seasoned detectives.
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  Speaker 2: And tragically, for a significant period, his misdirection works.
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  Speaker 1: It really does.
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  Speaker 2: The authorities pour resources into searching the Shark River and
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  Speaker 2: the coastline. They follow the Canada leads. But Liam failed
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  Speaker 2: to account for silent variables that his narrative just could
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  Speaker 2: not control.
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  Speaker 1: And the most devastating of those silent variables was a
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  Speaker 1: behavioral anomaly found right in the center of Sarah's living room.
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  Speaker 1: When investigators finally enter the Stern residence, they find the
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  Speaker 1: front door unlocked. And inside, sitting alone in a wire cage,
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  Speaker 1: is Sarah's dog, Buddy.
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  Speaker 2: We have to evaluate this finding through the lens of victimology.
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  Speaker 2: The study of a victim's lifestyle and deeply ingrained habits
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  Speaker 2: is paramount in determining whether a disappearance is voluntary or involuntary. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You look at their routine.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Liam is aggressively selling two mutually exclusive outcomes, a meticulously
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  Speaker 2: planned escape to Canada or a desperate leap from a bridge.
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  Speaker 2: But her father is in Florida. If Sarah was leaving
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  Speaker 2: permanently under either scenario, leaving her dog locked in a
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  Speaker 2: cage in an unlocked house contradicts every known behavioral pattern
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  Speaker 2: of a devoted pet owner. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about your own morning routine if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening and you have a dog or a cat. The
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  Speaker 1: automatic way you check their water bowl, the specific guilt
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  Speaker 1: you feel if you have to leave them alone for
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: an extra hour during a long workday.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: That attachment is so deeply wired into our humanity that
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  Speaker 1: it supersedes almost every other routine. A cold-blooded killer who
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  Speaker 1: is entirely focused on logistics, alibis, and CCTV cameras views
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  Speaker 1: a dog merely as an object to be secured.
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  Speaker 3: Just a loose end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. They don't factor in the psychological impossibility of the
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  Speaker 1: owner just abandoning that animal to starve.
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  Speaker 2: The caged dog acts as a massive disruption to Liam's
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  Speaker 2: carefully crafted narrative. It strongly indicates a violent, sudden interruption
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  Speaker 2: to Sarah's routine.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It speaks to someone who intended to return shortly, not
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: someone boarding a bus to the Canadian border. However, an
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: anomaly like a caged dog is not sufficient for a
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: judge to sign an.
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  Speaker 3: Arrest warrant for murder.
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  Speaker 1: You need more than that.
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  Speaker 2: The authorities needed a motive. And the darkest irony of
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  Speaker 2: this entire investigation is that the architect of the deception
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  Speaker 2: had already handed them the motive, wrapped in a lie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the motive was the money. During that Marathon 4.00 a.m. interview,
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  Speaker 1: Leem tells the police that Sarah had visited her bank
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  Speaker 1: on the afternoon of December 2nd. He claims she went
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  Speaker 1: to manage a secret, hidden stash of cash she had
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: recently discovered in a house left behind by her late mother.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: The lore surrounding this money is crucial to the case.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Liam states that Sarah had a lockbox and she believed
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: it contained anywhere from $ 20, 000 to $ 100, 000.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And he adds a highly specific idiosyncratic detail to the story.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: He tells the detectives that Sarah complained to him that
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: the money was in terrible condition. Oh, yeah. He describes
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: it as old, brittle bills all stuck together by moisture
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and time.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Which, when I first reviewed the interview transcripts, this detail
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: stood out as just utterly confounding.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Well, if you murder someone to steal their money... Providing
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the police with the exact narrative of the victim's secret
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: wealth seems like pointing a neon sign at your own motive.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Why on earth would he volunteer the existence of the cash?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: It's a great question, and we have to view this
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: through the lens of counter-interrogation strategy. Liam is highly aware
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: of the environmental surveillance surrounding him. He knows that banks
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: possess the most robust, undeniable CCTV systems in modern society.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Right, there are cameras everywhere.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: He knows that Sarah's trip to the bank is an
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: unalterable documented fact that the police will inevitably discover. So
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: if he denies knowing about the bank trip and the
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: police find the footage, his status as her ultimate confidant
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: is destroyed.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see. So he preemptively absorbs the bank trip
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: into his own narrative to control its contact. He tells
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the police about the money because he assumes they will
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: view the bank withdrawal as the final financial preparation for
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: her escape to Canada. He is literally using the very
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: motive of his crime to reinforce the credibility of his
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: false alibi.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: It is a breathtaking gamble, and it's predicated entirely on
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: his belief that he is smarter than the collective resources
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of law enforcement.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Which is wild. Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And as December turns into January, the gamble appears to
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: pay off. The river yields no body. The leads dry up.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: The search is officially scaled back. Liam is living his life,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: believing he has successfully committed the perfect crime. But the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: exact psychological trait that allowed him to lie so convincingly
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: to the police, his overwhelming narcissism, becomes the mechanism of
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: his own destruction.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to January of 2017 and the introduction
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of a man named Anthony Curry. So Anthony is a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: former high school classmate of Liam and Sarah. But more
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: importantly for our story, Anthony is an aspiring filmmaker. Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: He makes short films and is actively trying to break
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: into the industry.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: In January, Anthony approaches the police with a story that
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: fundamentally changes the trajectory of the entire investigation.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony provides a flashback to Thanksgiving of 2016, which
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: is roughly one week before Sarah disappeared. Anthony and Liam
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: are hanging out, and because Liam knows Anthony is a filmmaker,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Liam begins pitching him a movie idea.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Quote-unquote movie idea.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Right. He frames it as a concept for a psychological
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: thriller or a horror film.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Liam literally pitches a plot about a young man who
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: decides to murder a girl for her hidden wealth. The
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: specific mechanics of the pitch involve the protagonist waiting for
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the girl, choking her to death to avoid leaving a
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: bloody crime scene, stealing her money, and then tossing her
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: body off a local bridge to ensure the evidence is
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: washed out to sea.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: The psychology of this moment is profound. Sociopathy often carries
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: with it a desperate need for an audience. A perfect
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: crime offers no validation if no one knows you committed it.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Right. What's the point if you can't brag?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: By framing his actual murder plot as a fictional screenplay,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Liam found a loophole.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: He could brag about his genius.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: He could experience the thrill of revealing his capacity for violence,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: all while hiding behind the shield of creative writing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: And at the time, Anthony thought it was just a morbid, edgy,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: creative exercise. But then when December arrives and the news
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: breaks that Sarah Stern's car was found abandoned on the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Bill Maher Bridge over the Shark River, the fictional pitch
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: suddenly aligns perfectly with a horrific reality.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: He must have been terrified.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anthony connects the dots and takes this information to
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: law enforcement. But here is where the legal mechanics of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the justice system come into play, right? A detective cannot
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: simply arrest someone based on a friend's memory of a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: movie pitch.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: The federal rules of evidence regarding hearsay are incredibly stringent,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: particularly in a capital case or a life sentence murder investigation.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It's just not enough.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Right. Anthony's testimony is considered highly circumstantial. A defense attorney
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: would easily argue that Liam merely pitched a dark movie
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and that Sarah's tragic suicide simply happened to mirror his
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: dark imagination.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: A coincidence.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So to convert this hearsay into actionable, prosecutable evidence, The
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: police require a confession. They need Liam to take ownership
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of the narrative outside the context of fiction.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And so the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office orchestrates a sting operation.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: They equip Anthony Curry with concealed audio and video recording device,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and they script a scenario designed to bypass Liam's defenses.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: And it's a good script.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: On January 31st, 2017, Anthony reaches out to Liam with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a staged crisis. He says, hey man, my camera broke
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: on a shoot. I'm in a tight financial spot. Any
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: chance you could spot me some cash from that girl's money?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: This specific phrasing is just a brilliant piece of tactical negotiation.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It appeals directly to Liam's ego, acknowledging him as a
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: benefactor with resources, while simultaneously signaling that Anthony is in
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the know and entirely unfazed by the origin of the funds.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Like we're in this together.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It creates a safe harbor for the sociopath. So
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Liam agrees to a meeting, but his underlying paranoia dictates
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the terms. He insists they communicate only through Snapchat to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: ensure the messages disappear, explicitly warning Anthony, I can't say
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: anything on my phone.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And the actual meeting takes place inside Anthony's parked car.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: The secretly recorded footage of this encounter is just suffused
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: with an almost unbearable tension. Oh, I can imagine. The
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: moment Liam slides into the passenger seat, before any pleasantries
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: are exchanged, he demands to physically pat Anthony down. He
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: runs his hands over Anthony's torso, checking for wires, stating,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: gotta feel you up real quick. No disrespect, I got
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the FBI on my ass, dude.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Which is, this physical search illustrates the dual nature of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Liam's mental state, right?
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Well, on one hand, he possesses the.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Operational awareness to recognize he is a target of federal
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and local scrutiny.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: He knows the stakes.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, the compulsion to validate his own
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: ego overpowers his survival instincts. The moment he satisfies himself
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: that Anthony isn't wired because he failed to detect the
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: incredibly sophisticated covert camera, the dam just breaks.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You cannot help himself. It is the real world equivalent
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of the cinematic Zillan monologue. You know the trope. The
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: antagonist has the hero trapped, and instead of simply executing
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: his plan, he spends 10 minutes meticulously explaining the genius
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of his machinations.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Once Liam believes he is in a secure environment with
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a peer who admires his work, he abandons the movie
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: pitch facade entirely.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: And what follows on that tape is not merely a confession.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: It is an unfiltered look into the mechanics of emotional detachment.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Liam completely discards the Canada runaway narrative he had.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Fed the police.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He drogs it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He walks Anthony through the brutal reality of December 2nd.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: He confirms that after they went to the bank, they
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: returned to Sarah's house. He waited for her to walk
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: toward the front door, and then he attacked her from behind,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: choking her.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He describes dragging her body to the back of the house.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And he brings up the detail of the dog, Buddy,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: which we analyzed earlier. On the recording, Liam complains about
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the logistics of the murder, stating, My biggest problem was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the dog. And her dog laid there and watched as
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I killed her.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It's a chilling juxtaposition of violence and domesticity.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: It really is.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But the tape reveals a subsequent detail that fundamentally alters
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: our understanding of his psychological state.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, the timer.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yes. Liam tells Anthony that the physical act of murder
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: did not happen quickly. He states it took a half
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: hour to kill her. And the reason he knows the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: precise duration is because during the strangulation, he removed his
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: smartphone from his pocket, opened the clock application and initiated
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a digital stopwatch.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: We really have to analyze the cognitive processing required for
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this action. Like most homicides are crimes of passion or
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: sudden escalation. Right. Like the perpetrator's perception of time distorts.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Seconds feel like hours. The adrenaline floods the system, creating
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: this chaotic blur. Liam did not experience that blur. He
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: engaged in supreme compartmentalization.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: He was sitting on the floor of a home he
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: had visited for years with a girl he had known
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: since a childhood, someone who had sought comfort from him
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: when her mother died. And he possessed the chilling presence
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of mind to monitor a ticking digital interface.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: For 30 minutes, he watched the seconds count up, waiting
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: for biological functions to cease. It is the clinical definition
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: of cold-blooded premeditation.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: But the tape also reveals that Liam's self-image... as a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: flawless mastermind, is a complete illusion. Because once the murder
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: was complete, the chaotic, messy reality of logistics set in.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: During the 30-minute physical struggle, Liam lost his phone.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It slipped out of his pocket and disappeared in the fray.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And for a killer attempting to establish an alibi based
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: on digital pings and communication records, losing the device is
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a catastrophic failure.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Huge mistake.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Liam explains to Anthony that he dragged Sarah's body into
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: a downstairs bathroom to hide it and then scrambled to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: get to a shift as a restaurant server to establish
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: his presence publicly.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And this was the best night of my life shift
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: he bragged to the police about. Yes. On the hidden camera,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the reality of that night is exposed. He was frantic.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: He admits he left work multiple times mid-shift, driving back
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to the crime scene to desperately search the grass in
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the house for his missing phone. Yet, even in recounting
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: his panic... His ego demands a positive spin. He boasts
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to Anthony that his frantic behavior actually bolstered his innocence
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: in the eyes of the police. He claims the detectives
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: viewed his erratic movements and assumed he was simply a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: devoted friend, sick with worry, desperately looking for Sarah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He took his own logistical failure and framed it as
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: emotional proof of his innocence.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Which is insane.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: After abandoning the search for the phone, he still had
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to contend with the environmental surveillance. He was acutely aware
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of the neighbor's CCTV camera facing the driveway. He knew
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the camera had recorded him arriving and recorded him leaving
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to go to work. Late that night, he had to
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: return to move Sarah's car.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: To the bridge.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And to beat the camera, he engaged in this bizarre
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: piece of physical theater. He tells Anthony that he got
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: into Sarah's Oldsmobile 88, pulled the visor down, adjusted the seat,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and reversed out of the driveway at 11.45 p.m. Acting
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like her. Yeah, he was deliberately mimicking Sarah's specific posture
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and driving habits, attempting to fool a low-resolution lens into
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: believing the 19-year-old girl was the one behind the wheel.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: However, the fatal flaw in his entire operational plan was
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: human limitation. Liam is a young man, but moving a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: dead body, his own vehicle, and Sarah's vehicle across town
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night requires more hands than
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: he possessed.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You can't do it alone.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: The logistics of the disposal were impossible to execute solo.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: He required an accomplice, and the person he recruited brings
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a third childhood friend into the center of this tragedy.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Enter Preston Taylor. Preston is not a peripheral character here.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: He is deeply embedded in the social fabric of this group.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: He was Liam's current roommate. He was a former classmate
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of the entire friend circle. And in a detail that
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: makes the betrayal almost incomprehensible, Preston Taylor had been Sarah
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Stern's junior prom date.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Which is just, wow, when analyzing the psychology of a co-conspirator,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: we have to look at the dynamics of influence and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: shared pathology. Why does a roommate agree to participate in
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the disposal of a prom date? Liam explains on the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: tape that Preston's role was crucial. While Liam was at
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: his restaurant shift establishing his alibi, Preston went to Sarah's house,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: located her body in the bathroom, and dragged it outside
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: into the bushes to stage it for transport.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And then later that midnight, they executed the disposal plan.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: They utilized a tactic straight out of, like, a heist movie.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They communicated via two-way walkie-talkies while driving the two separate cars,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Sarah's Oldsmobile and Preston's own vehicle, through the deserted streets
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: toward the Belmar Bridge.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But the reality of what occurred on that bridge shatters
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Liam's delusion of being a cinematic criminal. Liam recounts the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: event to Anthony not with pride, but with immense frustration
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: over his.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Own physical inadequacy.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, because she was too heavy.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Right. He tells Anthony that he fundamentally misunderstood the physics
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of moving a deceased human being. He expected to easily
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: hoist her over the railing like an action hero jumping
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: a fence.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Instead, he finds himself in this desperate struggle against gravity.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: The dead weight is unmanageable. They're exposed on the center
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: span of the bridge. The wind is howling. Liam describes
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the sheer panic of seeing headlights approaching from down the highway.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: He is terrified of being illuminated in the headlights, caught
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: struggling with a body. They finally manage to heave her
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: over the railing, and she plunges into the dark, freezing
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: currents of the Shark River, disappearing permanently.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And we must starkly contrast the enormity of this act,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the permanent erasure of a human life, the devastation of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a family, the corruption of a 13-year bond against the actual, pathetic.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Payoff that motivated it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It's so sad.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Liam murdered Sarah because he believed the lockbox contained up
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to $ 100, 000. How much did he actually secure?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: He secured approximately $ 7, 000. $ 7, 000. And the condition of that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: money is critical. Remember, highly specific detail Liam volunteered to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the police during his 4.AM interview.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: About the mold. Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: He claimed Sarah told him the money was old, moldy.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and stuck together. He wasn't lying about the condition of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the currency. On the hidden camera tape, he actively complains
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to Anthony Curry about his loot. He whines that the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: money was of terrible quality, that the bills were practically decaying.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: The philosopher Hannah Arendt coined the phrase the banality of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: evil to describe how horrific acts are often driven by mundane,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: unexceptional motives.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: This case is a staggering example.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Liam and Preston took this decaying, moldy cash, hid it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: in the attic of their shared apartment, eventually buried a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: cheap safe in a local park, and used a portion
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: of the funds to purchase marijuana.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: That is the grand culmination of Liam's master plan. He
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: traded the life of his childhood best friend so he
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: could quit his restaurant job and buy weed with moldy bills.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But the moment Liam finishes complaining about the quality of
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the stolen cash to Anthony Curry in that parked car,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the trap snaps shut. The police have the tape. The
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: hearsay has been converted into a verified first-person confession. So
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the following day, February 1st, 2017, investigators coordinate a simultaneous
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: strike and arrest both Liam McCasney and Preston Taylor.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: The divergence in how the two men respond to arrest
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: provides a fascinating look at interrogation dynamics and the prisoner's dilemma.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Remind us what that is.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The prisoner's dilemma is a game theory concept showing why
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: two completely rational individuals might not cooperate, even if it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: appears that it is in their best interest to do so.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: When separated in interrogation rooms, the pressure cooker environment immediately
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: fractures their alliance. Preston Taylor, the accomplice, folds the moment
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: he realizes the authorities have leverage.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: He doesn't hold out at all.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No, he does not demand a lawyer to stonewall the process.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: He recognizes that the first person to offer the state
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: a narrative often secures the most favorable plea arrangement. Preston
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: begins talking immediately. He dismantles the idea that this was
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a sudden crime of opportunity. He tells detectives that he
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and Liam had been actively plotting this murder for a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: month or two.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Wow. Furthermore, Preston provides the physical corroboration that investigators desperately need.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He actually agrees to a ride-along. He physically directs detectives
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: to the Belmar Bridge, stands on the pedestrian walkway, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: physically reenacts the disposal.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Giving them all the details.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he demonstrates his exact positioning, stating, Liam grabbed her
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: by the shoulders, I grabbed her by the legs, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I pushed her feet over.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: The psychological contrast between the two men extends from the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: interrogation room all the way to the courtroom. During the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: legal proceedings, Preston exhibits what appears to be profound, weeping remorse.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: He addresses the court, his voice breaking, stating, I am
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: truly from the bottom of my heart sorry.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Now, whether that reflects genuine moral sorrow or simply the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: terror of a young man facing decades in a cage
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  Speaker 2: is something listeners can debate. But Liam's reaction requires no debate.
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  Speaker 2: Liam is an emotional void.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when Liam is questioned about the impact of his actions,
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  Speaker 1: his response is completely devoid of any recognizable human empathy.
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  Speaker 1: He states on record, I don't feel any different and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think about it. Just chillin'. It is a
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: chilling testament to his psychological architecture. However, securing a conviction
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: against Liam was not a guaranteed outcome. The prosecution faced
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a monumental legal hurdle. They had to secure a conviction
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  Speaker 1: for first-degree felony murder without a body.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Put yourself in the jury box for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: The Liesel concept is known as corpus delicti, a Latin
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  Speaker 2: phrase meaning the body of the crime. It is the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: principle that a crime must be proved to have occurred
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  Speaker 2: before a person can be convicted of committing it. Right. Historically,
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  Speaker 2: in murder trials, the physical body of the victim is
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the paramount proof. If the prosecution cannot produce a body,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the defense attorney possesses a massive advantage.
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  Speaker 1: They can just say she's still alive.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The defense can stand before the jury and plant a
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: seed of reasonable doubt. Quote, where is the proof of death?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: The prosecution claims she was thrown off a bridge, but
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the river yielded nothing. She wanted to go to Canada.
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  Speaker 2: She had the means. How do you convict a young
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  Speaker 2: man of murder when the supposed victim might be drinking
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  Speaker 2: coffee in Toronto right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Prosecuting a nobody case requires an overwhelming matrix of
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  Speaker 1: circumstantial and forensic evidence to close every possible loophole of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: alternative explanation. So Liam's defense attorney attempted a bold, if desperate, strategy.
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  Speaker 1: He argued that the damning hidden camera tape was not
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a confession, but merely Liam continuing his movie pitch.
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  Speaker 3: That is quite the reach.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: The defense claimed Liam was just acting out his script
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  Speaker 1: for his filmmaker friend, engaging in dark, improvisational theater. To
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: shatter this defense, the prosecution had to prove that the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: script perfectly mirrored physical reality. And they started with the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: smoking gun. The digital forensics of the lost phone.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is the best part.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Remember the phone Liam dropped during the 30-minute strangulation? The
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: phone he frantically searched for during his restaurant shift? Where
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: did it end up? It turns out Sarah's family found
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it lying deep in the bushes on her front lawn
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  Speaker 2: the day after she was reported missing.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: When law enforcement took possession of that device, they didn't
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: just look at the text messages. They executed a deep-level
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: forensic extraction of the device's operating system.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: They dug deep.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Modern smartphones maintain complex Squalate databases that log almost every
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: background process, even when the screen is locked or an
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: app is closed. the digital forensics unit analyzed the application
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: logs and found the data for the built-in stopwatch app.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Wait, they actually found the stopwatch data?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yes. The system registry proved that the stopwatch had been activated,
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  Speaker 2: and it was paused at exactly 4.15 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: On December 2nd.
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  Speaker 1: That digital footprint is unalterable. It established the precise minute
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of the murder and the exact duration of the attack,
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  Speaker 1: perfectly corroborating the timeline Liam boasted about on the tape.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: The movie pitch defense just cannot explain away the mathematical
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: reality of a digital registry paused at the exact moment
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  Speaker 1: of death.
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  Speaker 2: But the state didn't stop at digital forensics. They utilized
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: financial forensics as well. Preston Taylor had directed investigators to
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: the local park where they had buried the safe. When
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: detectives unearthed it and opened it, they found the cash.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: And it was the moldy cash, right?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yes. It was the exact old, moldy, terribly conditioned currency
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that Liam had complained about on tape.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But how do you prove legally that this specific moldy
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: money belonged to Sarah Stern? Like, money is just money.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: This is where the banking records became the final nail
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: in the coffin. When Sarah accessed her lockbox at the bank,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the bank maintained records of the currency. The forensic accountants
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: matched the serial number sequences and the specific degradation patterns
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: of the buried bills to the remaining currency still sitting
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in Sarah's lockbox. It was a perfect, undeniable forensic match.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: They also recovered the walkie-talkies used during the two-car convoy
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: to the bridge.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So every single element of the physical and forensic evidence
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: perfectly mirrored the narrative Liam provided on the secretly recorded tape.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: The jury was presented with an airtight web of corroboration.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: They saw entirely through the movie pitch facade.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: The verdicts delivered accountability, but they could not deliver closure.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Preston Taylor, who cooperated and provided the critical geographical and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: timeline evidence against Liam, was sentenced to 18 years in prison.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Under the law, he will be eligible for parole after
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: serving slightly over 15 years. But Liam McCasney, the architect
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of the betrayal, the young man who used his status
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  Speaker 1: as a surrogate family member to camouflage his greed, was
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: found guilty on all counts. First-degree murder, robbery, desecration of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: human remains. The judge sentenced him to life in prison
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: without the possibility of parole.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: As these two men sit in state penitentiaries today, both
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: still in their 20s, the focus really must shift to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the immense wreckage they generated. A father who lost his
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: only child. A 96-year-old grandmother who lost a beloved granddaughter.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: A community that had its trust fundamentally shattered.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: It brings us back to the core mission we established
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of this deep dive. We've analyzed a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: case where the ultimate betrayal was executed by the exact
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: person who provided a shoulder to cry on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Liam McGatazney attended the community vigils for Sarah. He joined
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood search parties. He stood in interrogation rooms and
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: weaponized her deepest, most painful family traumas, the devastating loss
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of her mother, the normal tensions in her home, to
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: build a firewall around his own sociopathic greed.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It forces us to confront themes that are deeply unsettling.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: The incredible fragility of trust and how easily the markers
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of friendship can be counterfeited. The absolute banality of evil.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: The willingness to extinguish a bright, youthful 19-year-old life for
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: a few moldy bills simply to avoid working a minimum
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: wage shift.
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  Speaker 1: It's sick.
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  Speaker 2: And ultimately, it highlights the staggering arrogance that unraveled the crime.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: If Liam had not felt the overwhelming narcissistic compulsion to brag,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: if he had not treated his brutal act of violence
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: as a twisted badge.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Of honor to show off to Anthony Curry... The physical
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: evidence might never have been synthesized.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: That's the craziest part.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: This case might still be sitting in a filing cabinet
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: as a cold missing persons file.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: As we wrap up our analysis of these sources, there
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: is one final chilling thread woven through this narrative that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: we need to pull on. It is a concept we
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: haven't explicitly debated yet, but it has been hovering over
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the entire timeline of Liam's deception.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I want to leave you, the listener, with a
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: provocative thought to mull over long after this deep dive ends. Right.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: It's honestly It's honestly terrifying.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: We consume such a vast volume of true crime, such
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: an endless stream of fictionalized violence on our screens, that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the boundary between reality and entertainment completely dissolved for Liam.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: He viewed a horrific act of violence as.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Nothing more than a cinematic plot point.
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  Speaker 3: A scene to be directed and executed.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And more terrifyingly, he assumed that boundary would blur
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: for his audience, too. When the people around you begin
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to view human life as nothing more than content, where
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: does the script end and reality actually begin?
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: That is a deeply unsettling question and an essential one
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to carry with you as you navigate the narratives presented
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: to you every day. Thank you so much for joining
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: us on this intense analytical journey. and for taking the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: time to really deconstruct the mechanics of this tragic case
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: with us. Keep questioning the layers beneath the stories you hear.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Stay curious, and we will catch you on the next
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: deep dive.