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Flat tire Andy's ride along with me podcast pt1 · Pete Vs Anxiety!!!!!

• Pete: Ever wish you had someone to talk to anytime, anywhere, matter what you're going through? Meet PsychPAL, your 24-7 AI companion, designed to help you process your thoughts, calm your mind, and keep you moving forward. Chat anytime during a panic attack on a restless night or just when you need to vent. Prefer talking instead of typing? Try voice journaling. PsychPAL listens, transcribes, and truly understands. You can even upload screenshots of tough conversations, and it'll help you unpack how they made you feel. PsychPAL keeps life organized, too. Peter: Welcome into the exciting episode of Pete for anxiety. Before we get started today, I want to give a shout out to my partners from psych pal guys. Check out my link in the bio 20 % off on your first month subscription. If you use my code Pete at checkout. With that being said, we're going to introduce our guest today. He's the one, the only the flat tire Andy right along the podcast host Andy himself. Andy say hello to everybody. peter: Show ⁓ Andy: What's up Pete? Hello everybody. Pete: It can add appointments to your calendar, track your mood, and even summarize your sessions for your therapist so you'll never lose progress. Plus, built-in crisis resources are always just one click away. It's a privacy-first, constantly evolving, made to complement your professional care, not replace it. Ready to try it out? Head over to the link in this episode and use my code, Pete, at checkout to get 20 % off your first month subscription to PsychPAL. PsychPAL, because your mind deserves a companion too. Peter: Andy's been crying for a couple weeks, so he wants to be in the studio with me. Andy: It's just that I had you on my podcast twice and you know I mean Peter: twice. Anyways, Andy, so why don't you tell everybody a little bit more about yourself, Andy: you know, just family man, three kids, ⁓ you know, I've had a full custody of them since they were little. I mean, for the past, what now 14 years now I've had full custody of them. originally from Oxnard, California, over here in what they call Ventura County. I left the nice coast breeze to come to a freaking hot temperature room, ⁓ area where I have to record my podcast early in the morning so that it's not so hot in here. I am now in LA County, San Gabriel Valley is what they call it. And for some of you that know California, I'm not that far from West Covina, which is a city or two away. ⁓ I've been in sales for the past 12, going on 13 years. I love what I do. ⁓ As for the podcast. I'm sure we're going to get into that, it started off with me sharing stories with my uncle and he decided he planted it in my head. Like, dude, you have a lot of stories. You beat the odds. You should start a podcast. And I sat on that idea for a few months. And then one day the Flat Tyranny podcast was born and I've been going strong since April of 2020. mean, strong compared to UP strong. It's just to me, this is more of a hobby and I only do it once in a while. Peter: Why do you all do that to me? I'm like, well, not like you, Pete. I'm like, I can't help it. People just want to talk to me, man. I'm like, everybody wants to have a conversation with me, say something to me about something, you know? But no, man. Andy: Now. You post episodes every, what, three a week? Peter: Three days a week, yes sir, we're at three days a week now. We used to be five days a week live, though remember that that was a... Andy: I've got, you did, I noticed in the beginning that when I first started following you on Instagram, you were live like every day and I'm like, this guy don't have a live. Peter: Yeah, thanks for calling me out. appreciate it, though. But anyways, Andy is a really good friend of the show. Me and Andy met the first time we had a conversation. It would be like two and a half hours on. We were just going at it for a while. You know, and I loved Andy's questions, though, because he was really in depth. sent me a list of them. And I'm going be honest here, I even look at them. I was like, yeah, let's just go for it. Why not? Because I was like, OK, cool, because you've got to trust the host in these situations. If it's good, he can handle this situation. We're going to go. And we did great, though, Andy: You Yeah. Yeah. Peter: But you're here now, man. Why don't you tell everybody about some of your struggles yet? I know you've dealt with mental health issues yourself, and I know we've mentioned it during our interviews a few times when we've had these conversations. Andy: Well, it all started when I was a little boy. I never knew my father. No, you know, I grew up in a very negative environment. obviously as you grow up, you start putting pieces of the puzzle together and we'll probably get to that later on. But I grew up in a very negative environment. My mom had kids stacked up on top of each other. Peter: Yeah. Andy: You know, she I pretty much had I pretty much started raising my siblings at a young age. I learned how to cook at a very young age. To this day, I've mastered the art of pancakes that everyone loves, bro, because I've to learn how to cook at a very young age. ⁓ Peter: This man said pancakes. He's like, just, you know, hey, listen, I'm after pancakes. Like if you can't make pancakes, I think I need you to stay away from my stove, okay? Andy: I've mastered it bro. I've mastered it bro. The reason why I say that is because one day my sister came to visit bro for Christmas a couple years ago and I met her family for the very first time because again at 18 and we'll get there later on she did bro she not only left the house she left the state and I didn't see her for 13 years so when she came to visit I'm meeting my nieces and nephews for the very first time I'm meeting her husband for the very first time Peter: Yeah. Andy: and they're staying with us. What's the cheapest meal to make? Pancakes. So I got fancy with the pancake. I put banana in the pancake mix and yada yada made the pancakes. My oldest niece loved them so much that she bragged about my pancakes for about a year that her dad did not make her pancakes for said year. I'm a freaking jealous hater bastard and Peter: You also have Cowboys fan, you need to that part in. it gets, it makes sense, know, the saltiness is there. You guys haven't won anything in a while. Andy: You want to, you want to look at that. You want to see, you want to, I can, I can move my camera around, but as you can see, I got stuff there. Anyways. So, you know, we didn't have a, uh, what you would call a normal, normal childhood. And, uh, when I was, I believe eight, I'm assuming it was 89. Hey, that was not my phone. Um, 89 we got taken away. Now we've pretty warm away for you. Peter: ⁓ no, I've seen it before. Yeah. Andy: This must have been important. In 1989, we ended up getting taken away from her because she left us home alone for about what the report said, two hours, right? But when she stayed at only 15 minutes, but the report said two hours, then we ended up being in a foster home. Peter: Yeah, sorry. Andy: I ended up being in a foster home and we ended up living with my grandma. After that, we ended up living with my grandma for about two years. And so we were in the foster, you know, obviously the foster care system. And when I was like, like I said, maybe the first second grade, I ended up going back to live with her and which was my grandma reminds reminded me to this, did till the day she died. It was the biggest mistake of my life. You know, you're a kid. You're supposed to love your mom. You're supposed to believe everything your mom says. Your mom is supposed to be your role model, everything she says, you know? And so when they asked me, where do you want to live? I'm like, I want to go back to my mom's. again, big mistake because then the trauma started, the childhood bullshit, you know? Peter: And you didn't see any signs of this. So now that looking back at it, did you notice any signs that you may have missed? Obviously, because you're a kid at the time, you don't know better. So were there things that you caught on to now that you know, with the information you now, looking back at it, do you realize like, or you should have just been like, no, I don't want any part of this? Andy: Yeah. You don't know. Looking at it now. Yeah 100 % I was like, why don't I just stay with my grandma? But you know again as you get older and you start talking to the siblings at this day with my grandma Then you realize maybe I should have just stayed in the foster home forever But ⁓ yeah, no, like I said, it started off with like a lot of verbal abuse, which again you see that as normal You know insults left and right? You're never you know, you're never good I was never good for you mother. ⁓ Sorry guys. I quote movies left and right. I just did the cable guy anyways the verbal abuse the you know, the beatdowns the Freaking getting hit with the iron getting hit with the the cord getting hit with the broom getting a broom broken on your back And then ask me to go buy another one ⁓ Yeah, it's you know again it got to the point where the corporal the corporal punishment made me laugh because at that point I was immune to the fucking beat downs. But you know, the, the gaslighting, what we didn't know back then, what gaslighting is now, you know, the gaslighting, you know, like I, I still struggle with, with triggers and like mental health because of, of like example, my wife call, we were on the phone yesterday and she tells me, we're talking about the lawn. My, my, my 17 year old is, ⁓ Spring break so he was like ⁓ I made him cut the grass and I'm like shit I could have done that when I got home and then she said but would he would have would you like kind of questioning it and I took that personal I'm like, are you assuming that I'm f-ing lying? Like are you serious? You know ⁓ so I'm like so I kind of got upset with her with you know, and I told you and I hung up on her and it maybe like an hour later I text her my I didn't even know why that pissed me off. So what I learned in therapy is obviously triggers, but now it seems like the word triggers is getting thrown out there like every day. Yeah, it's like. Peter: Yeah. A lot of words like get thrown out there. I narcissists get thrown out a lot. Everything else, everybody playing the victim, people taking their suicidal thoughts and using it as a victim, being a victim mentality for that too. They just want attention. All these things happen. And it's always somebody that's ruining it for everybody. know, the people out there really saying these things, are really telling you these things, are being told that, you're just playing the victim card. Well, no. Did they ever ask for sympathy? No, they're just telling you how they feel. And you know, it's... It's how you look at the situation. Like, are they looking for attention? they are they just telling a story, not saying anything else? You know, and I think that's where a lot of this stuff gets muddled with social media. Because remember, we grew up in the 90s, man. We didn't have all this shit. We had a well, that was it. You the telephone, had to see many persons. The only way is you have a way of communicating people. Oh, very minimum, because you were in a populated group setting of a chat rooms, you know, so in things like that, too. And it was a very basic beginning. And then, you know, we went to my space and then, know, or, you know, we have quotes. No. Um, yeah, my space, my space is something I'm thinking Yeah. Remember, because you said we used to have our MySpace pages and things like that was the next evolutionary step of it. And then you introduced Instagram and then all these other things just started popping up after that. When that happened, a lot of this stuff is just like it made your reach even longer. So now you can play keyboard warrior and say whatever you want. And you didn't have to hold accountability to what you were saying to people because no one knows who you really are. Cause you could have a fake picture up and Andy: My space. Peter: You know, just like we see on TikTok all the time, all these really fake pictures come in saying wild things and, you know, saying these obscure things to you because they think it's funny or it's cute or these kids get on there and they start doing that too. But it's like, you know, the message that we're sending these guys now is not good because you think about it, you know, they're seeing so much information so fast. They have Googles and all those other things we had used to have these encyclopedias, man. They would never survive though at. Andy: Yeah. It's funny because I was just, it's funny to bring up MySpace. I was having a conversation with my son just a couple of days ago because on my car, my Camry, it has like the map and it has like four different contexts, like your, your, your favorite context. So I went on a whole freaking, ⁓ history on MySpace and how you only had the four friends and then the, then top eight. once it got to every time Tom was your best friend. Peter: ⁓ no. And then Tom was your best friend, always remember, Tom was always your best friend. Yeah. Andy: So I was just telling him that he was like after he even he said it after 40. What was the point exactly? Like it didn't have the meaning behind it anymore being the the top friend like now. Oh well, I didn't make top 40 like that doesn't sound top 10 maybe but top 40 that doesn't have the same taste to it. Same marine. Peter: Yeah. You know what saying? Yeah. Everybody started arguing, who's your top people? Why am I not your top people? And we're like, that's the arguments we had, you know? And then what do we have? We introduced AOL in semester after that at MSN. know, then you had the messaging things where you're messaging each other during class, because we had a lot of computers at that time. So we all were trying to always have secret conversations. But, you know, when people like that just start talking to each other randomly, you know, you know, things like that. But it's just MySpace. God, dude. Andy: ⁓ Right? Yeah. Peter: I remember that. We all thought we were cool when we put the music on our page too. So like, oh yeah, just put the music on there. Andy: Hahaha Dude, MySpace created generations of tech people or what do call it, because dude, you would spend hours and hours customating the custom fixing it. Your layout, your page, and I remember going on multiple websites and creating codes with my own images and everything just to be able to have this bad ass fucking layout. And so I'll... Peter: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Andy: Honestly my space I feel that's what started my like photoshopping skills because now We take family group photos. Hey, so and so had her eyes closed don't even trip. I'll take care of that I'll use one photo to fix the other photo and ⁓ Hey, man on this photo. She had her eyes open. But on this photo, had her eyes closed. Everyone else is good except for her so I Don't need jadgbt to help me Photoshop family photos that can get printed and put on walls. ⁓ shit, I photoshopped that one. You know what mean? Peter: Yeah, you know, and that was a great thing about Photoshop is that you could do a lot of that editing stuff like that too. A lot of websites were built that way too in the beginning. You could literally piece together one and sit there and put it in there in parts and then go to, you know, what was it GoDaddy at the time? And then what was their Go Live or what their version was of a website builder, you know, or the coding version is whatever else to do coding. Well, it's like, a lot of us aren't learning all that code. We might as well go with the quick, quick, quick, you know, and it makes more sense just to go that way, you know. Andy: Yeah, it was fun times, Like Facebook is nowhere near close to what MySpace was. ⁓ Peter: ⁓ So, you know, my concern obviously is, you worried about the kids going on Facebook and things like that, the younger ones? Andy: You know what, reason why my boys don't even have Facebook is because they feel that Facebook is too unk. Peter: Okay, well, there's Instagram, there's TikTok. You know I'm saying, like in general, in the idea. Andy: ⁓ they have, they have, I mean, they have Instagram only because they like they follow family. Like my oldest got ⁓ Snapchat because the family likes to post videos of the kids on Snapchat only. They feel like it's more safe. because everything deletes after 24 hours. So most of the stories of the kids are on Snapchat. So I rarely post on Snapchat every once in a while, but obviously I created the podcast page, Instagram page, and that's where I spend most of my time. You know, because I rarely post stories on Instagram. I rarely post anything on Facebook. When I see something funny, then I'll post it like. Peter: Yeah. Andy: Example, WrestleMania 39. They came to SoFi, which SoFi is on like 20 miles from here, which is like a 30 minute drive. Dude, I posted watching WrestleMania and an old boss of mine saw my post and asked me, do you want to go to tomorrow's ⁓ event? And I'm like, yeah. He gave me two tickets for WrestleMania Sunday night. And we ended up going. So, you know, like. Peter: That would have been great. Hell yeah, yeah. Andy: To me, Facebook has its goods and its bads, guess. And that day, by me just posting, watching WrestleMania, I got two tickets, two free tickets to go watch the Sunday night. Peter: Yeah. I think it has, it is as positives and it's negatives, obviously. ⁓ You know, and it's how you use it. It's really what it comes down to. think, you know, well, me and Uncle Jimmy were talking about this one week. think we've, we talked about this a little bit in our episode a little bit, but the statistics of it was just like, it's too great that kids are saying that it has a negative effect on their mental health in general, because, you know, all the things are being said, the bullying, the harassment, the crazy things that people are saying, the things that you're posting, you know. It has no positive effects on either mental health at all. They're the ones reporting this, you know. And the scary part is that you can't even go on roadblocks these days with one of these guys hiding in the shadows, like trying to trying to take your kid or whatever, you know. And it's creepy, too, man. It's just like it's nowhere safe to be. It's not safe to be anywhere anymore because you don't know what is what, you know. And then what was it? Megan's missing. I got this conversation we were watching. They were talking about showing people Megan is missing. And I'm like, why would you show this to some kids? Because it's not. This is not I don't get what you're trying to achieve at this piece. The movie sets up as this girl who friends this guy. The camera, his camera doesn't work and she's talking about meeting up with him or whatever, you know, like the typical thing we used to do. And she goes missing. OK, so OK, cool. All right. Good. The end of this movie did not need to be shown to anybody else. And it was the kid getting sexually assaulted and everything else. And I'm just like, what is the purpose of this? Are you trying to traumatize these kids like? Andy: Thank ⁓ Peter: I get what you're trying to say with, don't trust people on the internet unless you know that kind of thing. I get what you're saying there. But the end of the movie, I don't feel like you needed to show it to them. But they were parents showing this to kids. I'm like, what are you? What are you trying to get out of this? Like, I feel like you're having a negative effect showing them the rest of that movie. Like, I could see up to the point where the girl goes missing. OK, cool. Makes sense. Cool. Movies over. Don't show the rest of it for reasons that it should not be shown to someone under the age 18. You know, but there's people out there showing it to him going, oh, yeah, well, I showed it to him because I want him to understand the danger in it. I'm like, yeah, you could. Or you could have an actual conversation about after listen, I'm not going to show you the rest of it because it gets pretty graphic. You don't need to see what happens. You know, obviously, your imagination can run with whatever you think is going to happen after that point. It's not good. But why would you show that to somebody is the one thing I kept thinking while watching it, because I was like, I kept hearing people say it. So I went and watched it and I was like. No, no, we shouldn't be showing this to kids, you know, it's like. Andy: But you know what Pete, I call BS. Sorry bro, this is why I don't like, ⁓ I brush my teeth and this is what causes this little, but I honestly dude, I call BS on the whole Instagram being mental bullshit, Bullying, ooh, I'm being bullied on social media and I'm not trying to be insensitive, but you're talking, you're, Peter: Okay, okay. ⁓ you're just sharing your opinion. You're welcome to it here. You know that. Andy: You're talking to someone who his mom would go to the secondhand store and buy him roller blades roller blades green ugly color fucking roller blades right take off the the the wheels and Turn them into shoes regular everyday shoes second of all Two sizes too big I was wearing fucking clown shoes to school green colored Clown shoes. You know how much I got bullied and made fun of because of those fucking shoes? I'm still standing here. She once sent me to the store and you damn well know seventh grade and eighth grade are the worst. Eighth grade, she sent me to the store and I bought these shoes called, I still remember, they're white, they look like Nikes, but it said loop. ⁓ Peter: ⁓ I believe it, yeah. Yep. Yep. Andy: ⁓ I had knockoff Nike shoes with the big fucking word loop on them. You know how much the freaking girl my class clowned in like made fun of me about my damn shoes? Back then I have a very strict policy on haircuts. I'm sorry, but if your hair looks too long and I'm the one paying for it, we're going to get a haircut. So I have a haircut appointment with my barber. Peter: Mm-hmm. Andy: once a month, no miss, nothing. My kids hate it. I see yours every day. My kids hate that, but I'm sorry, but that's an OCD of mine. That's a trigger of mine. Having long hair is a trigger of mine. Why? Because again, what do you call this? Maintenance. That was not a priority to my mother. So I went to her, my wife sees. Peter: Yeah. Andy: photos of me as a kid, like, holy shit, I see why you ⁓ hate long hair. I would have made, I would have made, I was made fun of for having long hair and it wasn't even like a style. It was just poof because I wouldn't go to the, I wouldn't go to get a haircut. Every time I got a haircut is because a family friend, Hey, I'm trying to learn how to cut hair. There's Andy use Andy. So I was made fun of a lot. In fact, I don't have it. But I lost it. My yearbook, my eighth grade yearbook, there were, ⁓ there was a drawing. I have the photo. I have a friend that works for the school still and found my eighth grade photo, but that's it. But I have, ⁓ I had the, there was a drawing of an afro, guy with an afro. It was just a cartoon. And on my yearbook, someone decided to Andy. Like that was me because of my hair. Peter: ⁓ my god, that would have been great. Andy: Bro, I never took that as bullying. I just thought my friends were just being funny. I always laughed about it, you know, like, but as you grow up and you realize, holy shit, that was a form of bullying. They were fucking bullying me, you know? And dude, okay, you already started with the cowboys. Yeah, mean, no. Peter: We don't have to talk about your Dallas Cowboys, okay, sir? Andy: But you know how many ideas I got my ass, I how many times I got my ass kicked in high school for wearing cowboy gear in the wrong side of the town? You know what I mean? So never, Hey, I would go home with my shirt off, fucking cut up and everything. What happened? I wore the wrong shirt to school again. Am I going to stop? I love the team. It's what, you know, what is there to say? And, ⁓ I not once, Peter: Yeah, yeah, the whole Andy: ever thought I'm being bullied and then you go, you know, hang myself. Like I have other reasons why I almost ended my life, but to go back on bull... like it took for me to be an adult to realize, shit, that was bullying. They were fucking bullying me, but I just took it as friends being friends. People nowadays, I'm sorry, kids nowadays are just too sensitive. Peter: OK, so I'm going argue on this point with you on that one. I don't think it's too sensitive. A lot of them are in tune with their emotions from some of them, you know, but it's like, you know, at that age, you still really don't understand everything. That's why emotional regularity is really good so they can better understand what they're feeling. You know, for some people that, you know, it comes off over overly sensitive to people like people that maybe empaths can feel it lower than other people, you know. And we don't know what the underlining issues some of these kids may have. I don't think it's they're too sensitive. Okay, some of them are. Yes, I can agree. Some of them, you know, if we all go look at like the Starbucks kid video where he's like, I have to work eight hours without a break. That thing. Okay, I can see that's being over dramaticized now. Some of the young guys I've met recently, though, they're really they got level headed guys, man. This one kid, he's years beyond his experience. So I don't really think it's they're too sensitive. I just think a lot of them are figuring out their emotions at an earlier age. But, you know, if nobody's really explaining it to him early on what they're feeling. Andy: Yeah. Yeah. Peter: They're still trying to figure out. it comes out as that, you know, but we got to remember we grew up in the 90s, man, versus now like before it was rough and people told us, you should watch some of the commercials from the 90s. You want to see some wild shit? Watch some of those. The things they got away with were just way different. Now everything's censored. have all the different, all the different censorships and ⁓ this is TV 14 and all these other things like that, you know. So like your, your opinion is because you've been through the things and different than most people do. And you're not wrong to have your opinion. I agree. Listen, I respect everybody's opinion. Like, listen me, man, you went through rough, man. You got it rough. You know, the stories you told me and the things that we've talked about on both the episodes we've been on, you know what mean? It's like, I get it. you know, and anybody listening to this, and he's understand that this is your opinion. Like, this is what you went through. You're not wrong for feeling this way. You know what I mean? And you know, that's the problem with social media though. It's like the minute that something like that gets said, somebody's gonna be like, well, Andy's lying. He's making up. No, Andy is just sharing his opinion. and his opinion matters. If you don't like his opinion, that's cool. That's the great thing about a debate. Debate him then. Andy will debate you all day about it. You want to talk to him? He respectfully will debate with you. He may piss you off eventually, but it's okay. Listen, that's just what happens. Somebody's going to get their feelings hurt at the end of the day, but don't judge people just because. You know what saying? You have your own experiences and what you went through is different from, say, somebody else went through. You'll notice that for a lot of people. When you say certain things and they just look at you. You people tell you, you tell people stories about all the things your mom used to do. And they're just looking at you. Well, my mom did it. OK, well, that's great. My mom did this. You know what saying? Like you just come in and just, you know, and in it with social media. I think it's more when people start sharing things. Too many people have opinions like it's cool to have an opinion, but people don't understand how to have a discussion. They want to argue about anything or they want to attack people versus just having a straightforward conversation. You know what I'm saying? Like back then, we didn't have that choice. Andy: Yeah. Peter: It was you had to go say this to somebody's face, call them on the phone. Hey, well, now you've got every which angle to hit them from. And now these guys hide behind their little pictures and everything else and see all these crazy things. And it's like they don't want to debate. They just want to say like the most they want to be the most clickbait worthy type person. I'm saying because everything's about clicks now because followers matter. All the traffic you get matters, you know, in things that I'm learning as I'm going with the analytics of things you're watching, you know, the traffic of people have and things like that as well. It's very interesting to see. Andy: Yeah. Peter: you know how much we're so worried about having the fear missing out if you think about it because like all the notifications go off on your phone like on my phone I have like every notification I turn them on silent eventually because it's just too much. But you know what saying like these kids can get attacked from so many different angles you know and I get that you you know you didn't think that way but a lot of these guys are getting hit from every angle like it gets worse for them because sometimes they get away from it at school and then they go home and they're still being attacked at home they're getting nasty messages people are constantly you know beating them down. Andy: Yeah. Peter: And we don't know what their home life's like too, you know, because everybody in line posts up a fake picture of, ⁓ my life's so great, this and that, da da da. You know what saying? Like everything is left a question now. It's very cloak and daggers like, know, everything is like what people want you to see. It's almost very, very covert narcissist like, you know, because like they'll present everything as, it's so great, but really in the back scene, the whole house is a fucking mess. Andy: Exactly. Yeah, I'm going to go back to what you said earlier about we just we just took care of it right like example ⁓ again ninth grade. look. Peter: Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Andy: Like you, right? I look white. Sorry, Pete's listeners, I'm Mexican. And ⁓ I recall two kids, right? And they were bad-mouthing me in Spanish. And I turned around and I said, hey, I know Spanish and you guys need to knock that shit out. And they continued. So I turned around. Right? Pretty much saying, I'm going to, if you want, we can take this outside after school and I'll beat the shit out of you. Peter: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Andy: lady that was, you the one you go and check out your luncheship. She spoke Spanish and she knew me and she was like, are you okay, Andres? These guys are talking shit. And she's like, and because she's Mexican too, and she, know, Mexican stick together. She's like, do whatever you got to do. Just do it outside of campus. And to the other point about sensitive, right? Like these children today's nowadays, see when it, when People are saying that they're being abused or verbally abused or mental stress or whatever on social media. Okay, maybe not the parent, maybe not the kids, right? Maybe not, maybe I shouldn't be so insensitive to the kids, but this is where the parents fall into play. You asked me about my kids having social media, right? They have Instagram. We sit down on our kitchen table every night for dinner and we have a discussion as a family. How was your day? How was your day today? Peter: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Andy: It was fine. No, we started these family conversations to have a conversation. It was fine. That's not a good answer. And we have a conversation. We sit there. We have a conversation when the boys friends spend the night and they come over and we're having dinner. We include them in the conversation and then we'll hear the next day. You guys do that every day, every day. Why? Because my wife has a believing that a family that eats together stays together. So we, you know, Peter: Yeah. Andy: I believe, I guess in a way we do our own little therapy session of how everyone's day was, how, you know, now that my oldest is working, so now, how was work? And, you know, like dad, you know, I love it. And, but we dive into their problems. And I had a conversation with my son one day when he had his first little heartbreak. And I told him, like, kid, the one thing I want you to do is talk to me. Because I didn't have that. And I don't know if we're gonna get into this conversation, but I myself almost jumped in front of a train. And because of a heartbreak. And I told my son, kid, you know, I think before it happened, before the heartbreak happened or anything, I don't think even he had been. I told him like, look, one day a girl is gonna break your heart. And I rather you come to me and talk to me about this than doing something stupid. You know, because at end of the day, let's use me as an example. Would I be sick? You were already born when I was trying to do something stupid. So you would you have visit your dad at the cemetery? What would the grave stones say? You know, think about what it would say. You know, I rather that I rather the things say that he died of an old, old age and he was a great father instead of why I didn't know my father because he was stupid enough to kill himself. You know. Peter: Yeah. Yeah, it's a good question, though. It really is. Andy: Why? Because I felt I had no one to talk to. And my brother listened to my podcast and years later and he was like, holy shit, dude, I didn't know you went through that. Yeah, because you guys weren't there to listen to me. You guys didn't give a shit about what I had to say. so back to, I told him, I'd rather you talk to me than doing something stupid because I'd rather have you here than not. As you can see, as an example, you know who your mom is, your biological mother is. He was all 100%. Peter: Mm-hmm. Andy: So you saw that after a couple of years later, I found happiness. You go, yes, you did that. Okay, so I don't want you to ever feel you need to do something stupid. I'd rather you come talk to me. I'd rather you sit here and talk to me about your heartbreak. And my youngest went to a little heart, my youngest did go through a heartbreak and one day he's like, dad, can we go on a bike ride? And I was like, and I joked, I'm like, motherfucker, you want something. You know, because nobody likes to go on a bike ride with dad because I'll go on bike rides, bro. I live I live for those of you guys listen from California. I live where the 10 freeway and the 605 connect. I rode my bike all the way to the Queen Mary three times. That's about two and a half hour bike ride. So my kids are like they know that dad goes on a bike ride. So for him to say, Dad, can we go on a bike ride? I'm like. OK, that's weird. You want something I'd. Peter: Yeah. Andy: Made the joke. So we're riding our bikes through town. I ended up going through town. We didn't go down the bike trail because the bike trail has been getting crazy with homeless lately. People have been, people have been getting murdered. So I'm like, I don't want to take my son through there. I'll go through there. I won't take my son through there. So I took him to the city. We ended up like in Bowen Park, a home of the very first in and out trivia. And, and, ⁓ we stopped at a park and said, dad, can we, can we stop here? Peter: Mm-hmm. There you go, there you go. Andy: I'm like, yeah, mijo, what's going on? He goes, you're right. I did want something. What do you need? What do mean? goes, I wanted to go on a bike ride to talk to you. And I was like, what? Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah, mijo. The only thing that I did was fuck up and take him to the town where his fucking ex lived. He thought we were going to go down the bike trail, which is better, right? So he's like, dad, I can't sleep. You know, she comes in my dream and everything. And I'm like, like I told him from my personal experience, me how I hate to say this and I don't want to say it, but I hate to say this, but I learned to hate your mother a lot. I learned to hate her with a passion because of everything she put me through and I needed to get over her. So I learned to hate her. I hate to give you this advice before. really hate giving you this advice, but it worked for me. I think that maybe. couple of weeks later, maybe a month later, my son came up to me and you were right. I hated her. I hate her and I don't have dreams about her anymore. I was like, fuck, okay, cool. He's not being a suicidal. I'd rather him hate somebody than get suicidal. You know what I mean? It's his first little heartbreak. And I told me, ho, sad to say it's not going to be the first one. I hate to say it, but it's not going to be the first one. It's not going to be the only one. And like, I'm going to tell you again, again, cause all three of my kids are from the same mom. My wife, Peter: Yeah. Yeah, it happens. Yeah. Andy: sadly couldn't get, couldn't have her own children and that's a conversation for another time. And ⁓ so they all know how their mom is, you know? So they're like, you know, dad, see that you, you obviously you're happy now. So it's going to happen. It's going to happen kid. Just, this wasn't the one. It is what it is. You'll, you'll find the one. Sad to say some people find the one in their seventies, you know? So. Peter: Yeah. Listen, stop hating those old geriatrics that are finding that love then okay, better quit. Well, but I agree though, man, it was hard, man. I my first heartbreak. was tough. Everybody was like, ⁓ I'm so sorry, you know, because we lived in a small town, you know, so everybody knew like it was everybody knew your shit anyway. So it's like, ⁓ I heard you and so and so are not together anymore. Yeah, you know, ⁓ I'm so sorry. And that was my first serious girlfriend too. And it was just like, it was devastating. Like I thought the world was coming to an end. Andy: Hahaha Peter: So I get how he's feeling, you know, and it's just, hard, you know, like, especially at that young age, you don't know, like you think the world's that that's your world right there. It's like, right, you're way too young to be just trying to tie yourself down. You might as well enjoy life, enjoy being a kid, enjoy being in your teens, your 20s. And then, you know, unless you find that one that you just undeniably connect with, okay, I've seen it happen. It happens. But you know, it's like just, just Enjoy life, you know what saying? That's my advice to anybody. Just enjoy life, man. Don't worry about settling down. Don't live with what ifs because if you start living with, what if I did something differently, you're going to drive yourself insane after that. Andy: Yeah, like again, now that we're talking about ex girlfriends and stuff, ⁓ I, I, so I always say that in Spanish, there's a saying, lo que no quieres va a tener, meaning what you don't want, you're going to end up with. So again, the 20 plus years of verbal abuse, of beat downs, of everything. Peter: Here we go. Yeah. Andy: I finally at like 22 years old, finally had enough and I'm like, I'm done. can't, I can't do this shit no more. I'm telling you, my sister had more balls that 18 a bounce and not just from the house, but out of the state. give a prost man. I finally had enough and my mistake was leaving with the person, the first girl that, you know, bat her eyes at me. That was my biggest mistake. Why? Because lo que no quiero voy a tener. meaning what I ran away from, I'm going to end up with. And my, mother of my kids ended up being just the same exact way as my mother. I. First real relationship out of the house. We now have a daughter because she had a four month old when we got together. And so now I'm step in dad. I'm stepping in. And I get the term now stepfather, because I'm really stepping in. This child has known me to be dad since day one. I was there when the child was born. I would go visit her when the child was, like I said, she first came. We were friends, bro. We were friends. Peter: ⁓ okay. Andy: And, you know, I was there since day one. And within nine months, homegirl cheated on me. Right? Nine months, bro. And the part that killed me the most was it was with a 16 year old. You know, so it's like, fuck, am I not mad enough? Fuck, what the hell? She, okay, she was 18 already. That was 18, 16. But wait, wait. Peter: Yeah. How old did she do with reference? old was she? Oh, okay. So it's not that bad then. was gonna say the age difference is what I was looking for, but yeah, I mean, Oh, oh, here we go. Andy: There's more. So within nine months, she cheated on me and she came home and I'm at work. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I don't know where she's at. She's not answering her phone, whatever. I'm not paying attention and I cut myself at the, I cut myself at work and it was a nasty one. Luckily, no stitches, no nothing. And I'll explain what this means later on to you. I came home where the fuck were you? And my mistake was I slapped her. You know, I grew up around domestic violence my whole life. My mom was always getting her ass beat. I see why it's not okay to do, but I see why. No, 100%. I, ⁓ no, ⁓ I'll get there. I'll get there. I fucked up. I slapped her. I slapped her and pretty much. Peter: Yeah, but you know you did wrong. That's what matters at the end of the day, you know, because somebody's gonna hear that and go, ⁓ well, Andy, no, Andy knows he fucked up. He's admitting he fucked up. Okay, okay. Andy: back to being in the honeymoon stage, right? Uh, maybe eight months, a few months later, she's talking to this kid again. Like she found a way to talk to this kid again. And at this point I'm not trying to hit her. not, I don't want to hit her. I want to get the fuck out. She's blocking the door. She won't let me leave. And I pretty much shoved my way out. Uh, one of the neighbors calls me and says, I was about to go to work. One of the neighbors calls me and she said, Hey, she called the police. And I'm like, fuck. All right. Peter: Yeah. Yeah. Andy: So went and sat my ass on the curb and I told the police, I called the police and I said, Hey, the police has been called on me. ⁓ I am sitting on the curve, ⁓ at this address. ⁓ they came up to me and they said, okay, ⁓ what happened? And I said, Hey, I was trying to leave. I know my way out. I kind of shoved it out of my way. I would, you know, like a shoulder check just to get out. I don't want to be here anymore. She's, you know, doing me dirty with the guy. So she, they were like, all right. I mean, sadly because of OJ Simpson, I have to arrest you. So I spent my very first five days in jail at 22 years old or 23 years old with the one place I always so said that I would never go is jail. There I am in jail. Sadly guys don't get arrested on a Friday because court is not three days later. So Saturday and Sunday don't fucking count. So I went to court on a Wednesday and then they were like, Hey, the charges are dropped. There's not a big deal. You guys both hit the same story. You know, I get it done. All right, Go go I go home. Luckily my boss was so cool and he loved me so much that he saved my job He told him that I was sick when in reality he knew exactly where I was at I Go to I go to work and he tells me if you stay with this girl, you're gonna end up in there again Young and stupid I don't listen October of 2000 saw this happen in 2004 beginning of 2005, 2005, October 2005 it happens again. Now she's what? 19 and she meets a 15 year old boy and she's cheating on me again. the fuck man like seriously again and this time she's about to take off and I know where she's going bro and she's taking her daughter with her and I say hey you're not taking our daughter you can go hold yourself around I've accepted it at this point I've accepted it two in two cheats now this is the third one hey I have accepted it go you can go and knock yourself out but don't take our daughter with you she's my fucking daughter ⁓ and I'm sorry listeners yes I fucked up And I closed line there, right? WWE clothes, liner. She, I, ⁓ and I took off. Cops recall the cops recalled and they went to my mom's house because they knew that I was probably where I was going to go. Again, my mom being a messy person. That's another reason. Another thing, my mom's a very messy person that I was able to hide underneath all her dirty laundry. Cops came. I saw the fucking light shine in my face, bro. They didn't see me. They didn't see me. was hiding under a bunch of dirty laundry. They did not see me. Uh, talked to my mom for a little bit and I was like, I mean, I know I'm going to go to jail. It's, it's going to happen. I was just saving myself a few minutes. And, uh, so I called the police and my, I'm, you guys already came to my mom's house. I was already here. You guys are more than welcome to come pick me up and they, picked me up. Um, so I was fighting my kid. I was in there for about 15 days, but this time It was no turning back. It was a felony because when I, when she fell back, she hit her head on a toy and she was also very messy person. There was shit everywhere. So she was also a messy person. again, looking okay. And, um, so she ended up in the hospital, but the funny part, the funny part, sorry to say it. When she was laying on the stretcher, her mom came up to her. said, what did you do to Andy again? What did you do? Peter: ⁓ no. Andy: to Andy as she's laying in the stretcher. Why? Because her family knew I wasn't the fucking asshole. But it is what it is. I fucked up. I closed line to her. I go to jail. Peter: Yeah, but you get again, we're back to you. took responsibility. I mean, you know, you fucked up. So you took responsibility. I mean, which is rare at that age for anybody, you know, like you you just but the fact her mom came up and said something, it just says a lot really about they knew about it. I'm saying the fact that her mom came and said, what did you do to Andy? It's like she knew already that something had happened in this situation that she was, you know, doing something that was causing a drama of some sort because she's cheating and she's. Andy: Her mom, her mom, yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Yep. So again, I mean, I catch the pattern. I knew where she was at. I knew where she was going because a couple of days before that, I got a word from a buddy of mine. Hey, what are you doing in Santa Paula? Santa Paula is another city in Ventura County. What are you doing in Santa Paula? And I'm like, I'm not in Santa Paula. goes, well, your fucking car is down the street. I'm like, are you fucking serious? So I can get my ride over there. There was no Uber back then. I get a ride to Santa Paula. I find my car and I take off. I took my fucking car. Peter: Mm-hmm. Andy: let her walk her ass home. So I knew where she was going when I closed lined her. So ended up going, like I said, went to jail. I, when I was with my mom, I gave her money. had my, one of my paychecks and I gave her money and I said, Hey, just bail me out. I don't know why it took fucking 15 days, but it took 15 days. I was bailed out and, but there I go back because why Peter: Yeah. Andy: Because I'm in jail, she's over there, I'm so sorry, I love you and I wanna be with you and blah, blah. And I'm young and stupid, here we go again. All right, cool, whatever. there I go again. So this is October of 2005. Come May of 2006, we start bickering a lot, we start fighting. And at this point I catch on, bro. I know what she's doing. She's trying to get under my skin so I can leave so that she can have her freedom. I've learned. I've caught on. Fuck this shit. I take off. I leave. I go to my mom's house. I'm doing whatever. This is the weekend. This is the same weekend that Superman Return came out. And actually, X-Men 3. And I get to the point of the X-Men 3. I am, ⁓ I go watch X- like, you know, I'm at a friend's house. you know, one of the nights I went to go, I went to go watch X-Men 3. Peter: Yeah. Andy: And by myself, you even though Google says that watching movies by yourself in the movie theater is pathetic, but I mean, hey, I went and did it. ⁓ you know, Resee was in my back pocket. Next morning, I'm at a friend's house and a good friend of mine met her in college. Police show up to her house and the cops get there and they touch the hood of the car and they figure the car's still warm. I just got there. I wasn't there for a while. The mother of my kids called the cops and she... I'm on bail. I get arrested in front of my friends. It's fucking embarrassing getting arrested in front of your friend. And I give her the key to my car and I say just tell my mom to pick up the car and so it won't be here in your driveway. And ⁓ sorry you had to see this. Arrested me in front of my friend. All right, boom, back to jail. Now I'm fighting my case. There is no bailing now because why? You were already on bail and you fucking fucked up. Again. But this time Pete, I didn't lay a hand on her. I promise you guys I didn't lay a hand on her. Peter: Yeah. Because you were at the movie though, remember? Because that's where you were. So you do not have to take a step to prove it? Andy: At the moment, I don't think about that, right? So yeah, at the moment, I don't think about that. We go to jail. I said, I go remember again, the movie was Sunday. I think the or Saturday and then the whole I beat her bullshit was on Sunday. So it was two different days. Again, I'll get there. I go to jail this time. There is no bailing out. ⁓ And I mean, they put me with the criminals. We're talking hardcore criminals. Peter: ⁓ okay, yeah, now I get that completely. Yeah. Andy: because it was a violent crime. So I wasn't very liked in there, bro. I now get to that. And again, why? Because I look white. So I go to jail and my product defender stating, you're looking at prison time. Like, why? Because you threatened to kill her. Sorry if I said that. You threatened to unalive her. And I was like, Peter: ⁓ you're fine. You can say however you want to in here. This this is our space to talk about this, but no, you're right. Andy: And, ⁓ I was like, I did what now? Yeah. You threatened to kill her. So I'm finding my case on, on, on going to prison and everything. And it was like, maybe now we're in there for five months, Pete. My fourth month, we go to court again and, and, they're trying to still push me on the prison. Shit bullshit. And I, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Month three, month three, they're still pushing the prison shit. And I tell my lawyer, you know what, man? Peter: Yeah. Andy: By then my mind is clear. ⁓ I'm chill. I'm actually I'm not saying I enjoy jail, but I'm at peace Listen to those words. I'm at peace ⁓ My sadly my grandma came to visit me one day from El Paso, Texas. She came to visit me, bro My buddy Frank will come visit me. My brother can have is me She visited me a couple times with the kids with my daughter, you know, so I got to see my daughter and So I'm at peace bro, like I'm not stressing out sad to say that jail was my fortress of solitude, you know what mean? ⁓ so third month, mentioned to my public defender, by then I mentioned to my public defender, I'm like, do you have access? Because by then the reports coming out and the details are coming out, she's stating that you threatened her on Sunday, on Saturday at this time. If you go to my personal belongings in my back pocket, I'm sure they took it out by now, but in my back pocket was a receipt to this theater, downtown Oxnard, where I went and watched X-Men 3. I can tell you how that movie ended and I can spoil it for you right now and tell you how that movie ended. And he was like, ⁓ I can quote you the movie if you like. No, no, no, no, there's no need for that. Month four, we go back to court and he finds he chose, your honor. It's impossible for my client to have ⁓ made the threat because at this time he was watching a movie. He can quote you the movie if you like. so they dropped the felony, but they were still fighting under domestic, right? So I think they set me up because at that time my daughter, they let her in the courtroom and she starts crying, daddy, daddy, daddy, bro. And I fucking started bawling and I... Peter: Yeah. Andy: The night before I had just read a Bible quote that said the truth sets you free. So when they told, when my daughter walks in the room and starts crying, I did it. Obviously, why am I fighting the domestic violence? I hit her. Now I am not going to prison. Now I'm willing to accept the punishment of what I did back in October. I did it. I did it. I, I, cause they were trying to get me for cruelty to a child because that clothesline happened in front of my daughter. And I took cruelty to a child as I hit the child too when I never hit the child. It just happened in front of her. So I was trying to fight the case of I didn't want that cruelty to a child. And the truth has set you free, man. I owned up to it and they told me, OK, you go home in a month. Pretty much most of it was time served. You go home and you go home in a month. Peter: Yeah. Yeah. Andy: I ended up right back at her with her bro. I almost want to cry, fuck. Yeah. I grew up with that shit all my life. So this like, you know what I mean? And we ended up again, honeymoon stage and shit like that. Peter: It's just a pattern. That's what it is. It's a vicious pattern that a lot of us go through. Damn. Andy: But wait, there's more. Now we're not, I get released in October of six, honeymoon stage. I made the mistake of sticking it where it didn't belong. And August of seven, my son is born. Again, we have no biological children together at this time. My son is born. My son had to have been two months old when she starts talking to somebody. Peter: Yeah. Andy: Alright, cool. Maybe a few months later I start catching on. It's sadly that it took a few months. I start catching on. Now wait a minute. Something's going on. So one day she shows up. I'm visiting my mom and she knows where I'm at. So she pulls up and she drops off the children. And it's always both kids, bro. It's always both kids. My daughter's always included. And my son. Peter: Mm-hmm. Andy: And then my brothers are down there with me and I tell them, hey, can you guys take the kids upstairs? Because I saw a look from an individual. And I was like, can you take the kids upstairs? All right, they took the kids upstairs. And I went up to this individual, like, yo, are you pissed off that your girlfriend didn't say hi? Again, now I'm suspecting it, now I'm 100%. I'm 80 % sure that this is going on. Hey, you're mad because your girl didn't say hi? Oh, F you man and blah, blah, blah. We start fucking throwing it down. We start fucking fighting bro, full on fist left and right. He ends up at that time that we're throwing it down. Why is the mother of my kids pulling back up around? So you went out into the main street, looped it around and came back into the alley. Why? That person was that individual was my 15 year old brother. At the time she's 22. She gets in as we're fighting she gets in front of me to protect me from what he's about to do because he finds his fucking pipe and He swings it at me and I've used it to protect her and it hits me right here Pain for three months. Luckily. Thank you milk never broke a bone. I He hit me hard bro, and that pipe bent so This is what I'm suspecting This is the bullshit that I'm suspecting. Like this is what's going on and this is BS, right? I'm done. Like I said, I'm at this point I'm done. I go and stay by myself. I go rent this little room, buddy of mine hooks me up with the room. I'm staying in this room. I pick up my kids whenever I have my little freedom and ⁓ the mother of my kids and my own mother get arrested. They get arrested because they decided to team up together to rob a fucking gas station. sorry triggers to you. They rob a gasoline station. the mother of my kids is working at the gas station and she's putting money in her bag. Then my mom gets two friends to come over this all over the papers, bro. It's embarrassing that my grandma saw this shit and ⁓ she sends two friends to go and ⁓ and rob the store, rob the store. Why? Because the mother of my kids is putting money on the side, right? She's not putting it in the safe like you're supposed to. So they had wads of cash because they would rather rob a gas station than come talk to Andy for help. So when they're both in jail, that's when obviously all the truth comes out. Yeah, she's sleeping with your brother and everything like that. one of my own, one of my brother and I take pretty much all the kids. We find out that this wall that exists went over a thousand dollars in it because the mother of my kids was putting money in it. So I go find said brother and I'm like, give me that fucking purse. Give me that purse. He gives me the purse, I use that money to go get a fucking down payment on an apartment. Peter: I mean, I don't blame you, though, because you're finding your brother is hooking up with your girl. it's like you were right all along, though. So like you in that moment, you felt like, you know, you were justified because it's like, well, fuck you, dude, you're over here doing we're supposed to be family and you're hooking up with my girl. You should have not even entertained this. Andy: Yeah! Yeah. But before, before that, obviously when I'm suspecting this, right, when I'm going through my emotions, my feelings and everything, again, everyone always says when you're going through a dark time, you're not alone. Okay. In my case, I felt alone. My mom kept away from family, so I had no idea who to talk to. I couldn't vent to my grandma. I didn't want to tell her that. She's an old lady. I don't want to tell her that I'm being suicidal. Peter: Mm-hmm. Andy: I didn't have the number to my brothers who lived in Texas. didn't like I said my wife my I'm sorry my wife mother my kid my wife my mother To her her mentality was we're our family. No cousins. No aunts. No uncles. No nothing and now that I'm an adult I hear stories, but So I didn't have someone because just a couple days before that I'm in tears I think I'm like 23 years old and I'm crying to my mom, but I'm in fucking tears and I asked and I asked her What did I do as a child for you to hate me so much? Because I'm getting wind that my mom is covering for them. My mom, the same person that said this bitch is not good for you is now covering for the golden boy and the mother of my kids. So I'm going through a dark time, bro. I lived upstairs. We stayed upstairs in the bottom of the apartment downstairs. The fence had spikes and I always thought about it. Will that kill me if I jump on that? You know? Peter: ⁓ no. Yeah. Andy: My mom even went and got like a tarot card reading at one point and they even told her your fucking son wants to end his life. Didn't stop her. Didn't stop her. ⁓ tarot card reading. What finally put the, the, the proof that my mother, my kids and my brother were sleeping together was tarot card reading. Again, all that before the, before the robbery, before the, the thousand dollars. I was talking to a friend, she was a friend of the family and I went and got my cards read and I never and I never fucking do it again because everything she fucking said came true. She told me that that she knew that I had hit the mother of my kids and I'm all great. She also told me that I was going to have another kid. She also told me that I was going to have another kid with her and I'm like, what the fuck? So I'm like, oh fuck, I a pregnant person. You know what mean? My mind. Peter: Okay, yeah. Andy: And she did tell me like she is sleeping with someone close to you. I was like, fucking it. Everything this late. She did say that at one point later on in life, in a long future from now, you and her will get along. No joke. Three years ago, we were having conversations like nothing ever happened. Like the friends that we once were. I. So again. That was what I needed to hear that, she's messing with my brother. Peter: Yeah. Andy: Anyways, so the whole I'm going through some dark times. again, for those of you that know Oxnard, if you listen to if you live in Oxford, I was just there recently and I started getting flashbacks. I think we talked about it last time. started getting I started getting flashbacks of that corner, the intersection of Fifth Street and Rose, where I started walking towards. I started walking towards the train. There it came. The train's coming. Peter: Yeah, a little bit we did. Andy: I felt the wind of the train in my face. That guy is honking that fucking horn, but I have music on. I don't care. I don't hear shit. I'm just, my goal is to just end this shit. I'm done. Well, over a girl, bro, you know, and I say something, I never say someone. I should probably say someone, but I always say something tugged me back. And I stopped myself from doing what I was about to do. I turned back. There was no one there. Peter: Yeah. Andy: That same day she tells me that she's pregnant. And I'm like, ⁓ shit, well is it my kid or is it Homeboy's kid? But then that lady did say that I was gonna have another kid. So now I'm like, this is my kid, you know what mean? People that I told that story to, they're like, dude, your son was your guardian angel. If you don't believe in guardian angels, you know how to believe in him now because your son saved your life. Your son pretty much told you, dad, I need you. Something tugged you back and you turn around nothing there. was that because that same day I looked up and I said, okay, I believe in you. I believe god what what do you have plans for me? You know what mean? and uh We Fuck bro. She goes to jail We get the apartment like we use We use that money that she pocketed to house My sister Two three four five fuck six of my siblings, bro Because the other one ended up going to jail, the one that she was messing around with ended up going to jail because I guess he tried to go rob someone to go bail her out. ⁓ dude, my family's a fucking clusterfuck, bro. He went to go rob somebody, beat someone up to try to take their money to go bail her out. He didn't go bail his own mom out, he went to go bail her out. You know? Peter: ⁓ Jesus. Isn't that funny though, because she's the one that was covering from the whole time. It's like, well, I'm gonna leave you in here, mom. gave me an alibi, so I'm gonna go get her instead. And I know that when we talked last, we covered your relationship with your mom. It's still rocky, know, and then how she tried to approach your sons. you know, we discussed that whole thing, which I thought, you know, was like, you know, it's the right way because you're like, you know what, I'm gonna let you all feel how you guys want to feel about this kind of thing. But that's just that's Andy: Yeah. Yep. Yep. Peter: I mean, that's wild though, because he's like, oh, I'm going to go rob somebody just to get her out. But you know, mom, you're the one that covered me with Andy the whole time trying to protect me and the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Andy: Well, like I said, we used that money. And again, the thing about my mom is that she always had, she always made friends with people because she benefit from those friendships. So I went and found this lady that owned apartment complexes and shit. And I told her, hey, I need a place to stay with my kids, with my siblings. I have my own kids and here's a deposit, whatever. Both of us are. Peter: ⁓ okay. Andy: working, us older ones are working, we can take care of the rent. Dude, no hesitation because she knew who we were. She went and rented us an apartment. So mother, my kids is in jail, living the life and she gets out of jail pregnant and now I'm like. You guys got this? Cause I have my own family to take care of. And I walked out. I walked out again to go be with this individual that was probably going to end up killing me. At this time, let's try family again, because this time you are pregnant. And until I see the child, I, I'm dead. ⁓ child is born. Kid looks just like me. My brother is tall, dark and handsome. What they call. All right. I'm not tall, dark and handsome. The handsome part I got, but.