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Episode 5: Everything Is Not What It Seems · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode five of Revellio for October
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  Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nicole, I'm Amy.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 4: How have you guys been since our last recording?
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  Speaker 2: Great, it's a busy two weeks. And it's like eighty
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  Speaker 2: degrees out in October, which is bizarre, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're here.
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  Speaker 5: What's eighty degrees there? I need to convert I that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Usually eighty degrees in like July.
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  Speaker 1: So is like summer, like full on summer weather.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been very unseasonably warm here, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: like it because the warmth that time is over. We're
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  Speaker 1: in fall and I want the fall weather. And we
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit of fall weather. Amy and I
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  Speaker 1: actually like went to a pumpkin patch recently and we
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  Speaker 1: got some fall weather and that was nice. And then
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  Speaker 1: it got really warm again, and then it's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: get cold.
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  Speaker 4: Again and so who knows. But yeah, that's very warm
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  Speaker 4: for us here.
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  Speaker 2: How are things on your side of the world there.
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  Speaker 5: Tom, Yeah, it's also pretty crazy, you know, speaking of
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  Speaker 5: global warming, I think because we haven't gotten like a
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  Speaker 5: proper spring, like we went straight from winter into summer suddenly.
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  Speaker 5: So we've been like having the air conditioning system on
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  Speaker 5: the whole day and it's cool down today, but it's
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  Speaker 5: been like like really heavy. We're supposed to be getting
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  Speaker 5: like very mild, you know, like spring temperatures, and it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's been very unpleasant for me because I'm a
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  Speaker 5: I love fall, and whenever we start, you know, we
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  Speaker 5: get into spring and you guess, you guys get into fall.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm always very envious.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm like, oh, that's so nice and they have
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  Speaker 5: their pumpkin spice lottes and their you know, their comfy
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  Speaker 5: blankets and they're planning their you know, they're little movie
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  Speaker 5: marathons and whatnot, and you know you're here like like
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  Speaker 5: dying in the heat. And yeah, it's not it's not
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  Speaker 5: it's not nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the fall.
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  Speaker 1: Something about like the fall weather like here just also
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of like Harry Potter, Like it just seems
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  Speaker 1: like good to Harry Potter, like marathon watching weather and
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  Speaker 1: just like sets this for like the holidays. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could like live somewhere that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have.
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  Speaker 5: It, but mm hmm, yeah, speaking of that, I did.
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  Speaker 5: I did do a little Harry Potter marathon last week.
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  Speaker 5: They were doing screenings of the first three films, so
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  Speaker 5: obviously I had to go to all three screenings, and yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was a lot of fun. You get to like
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  Speaker 5: pick up on like different things, even after so many
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  Speaker 5: years watching them. It's like, oh, I had to notice
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  Speaker 5: this little detail and had to notice this and this
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  Speaker 5: and that, and seeing it on the big screen is
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  Speaker 5: also always really special.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while since I've gotten to see
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  Speaker 2: them on the big screen. It's such a different experience.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's cool too because like when some of
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  Speaker 1: my local theaters did that, I think it was maybe
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  Speaker 1: like last maybe last summer, and I couldn't even get
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  Speaker 1: tickets for like all they did, all the films, and
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't even get tickets for all of them. They
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  Speaker 1: sold out and the showings I went to sold out,
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  Speaker 1: And it's just so crazy how like you know, so
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  Speaker 1: many years later, like it can still sell out these theaters,
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  Speaker 1: which is so cool.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, the only other time.
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  Speaker 1: That I ever really see anything on the big screen
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  Speaker 1: now is when they have like the concerts where they
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  Speaker 1: have like the live orchestra that plays it, which is
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  Speaker 1: really cool experiences, but it's still not the same as
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  Speaker 1: like seeing it.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been to the theater looking forward, I.
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  Speaker 4: Would really love to tell you if it they come
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  Speaker 4: near you for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah, definitely will.
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  Speaker 1: In this episode, we'll be discussing Halloween in the Wizarding World.
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  Speaker 4: But first.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to w W in the Wizarding Wireless Network. Now
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  Speaker 2: for the latest headlines.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so starting off with the news today, there's a
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  Speaker 5: Harry Potter store opening in Chicago in twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 5: to twelve. Three hundre square foot shop follows the success
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  Speaker 5: of the Harry Potter shops in London and in New
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  Speaker 5: York and the launch of Harry Potter and the Curse
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  Speaker 5: Child play in Chicago. It's set to offer an enchanting
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  Speaker 5: experience that brings the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to
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  Speaker 5: life with interactive displays, photo ops, original film pops and more.
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  Speaker 3: So. How are you feeling about that?
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  Speaker 2: I think it makes sense. The New York one is
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  Speaker 2: still so busy all the time. I think Chicago seems
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  Speaker 2: like a pretty natural next stop.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm.
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  Speaker 1: I like that We're seeing kind of just more of
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  Speaker 1: the stores popping up. America is a really big country
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  Speaker 1: and so having more shops like pop up around the
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  Speaker 1: country obviously just helps the location for people. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, it seems like the perfect spot kind of
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  Speaker 1: with you know, Curse Child coming to Chicago as well,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully this just means it'll just kind of keep
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  Speaker 1: moving like further west and we'll see more of them
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  Speaker 1: pop up. And yeah, I mean the store is still
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  Speaker 1: so busy and is still doing so well after all
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  Speaker 1: this time, and there's definitely a market for it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got New York, Chicago, La La,
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  Speaker 2: you've got the studio stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying, is it bigger?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to look up to see what the square
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  Speaker 1: footage of the New York store is. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if if we saw in the news article about this one,
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  Speaker 1: if it mentioned if it's going to be like multi
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  Speaker 1: story as well, like the New York.
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  Speaker 4: Store is you know, multiple floors.
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  Speaker 1: Or if they're it's going to be bigger like on
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  Speaker 1: one floor. Potentially. Yeah, it's a good question to see,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm curious to see what the experience will be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if they're going to keep it that new
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  Speaker 1: Broomstick experience that's in the New York store, or if
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna create something new.
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  Speaker 3: Hope, something new, me too, Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 5: In other news, Wizardingworld dot Com rebrands to just Harry
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  Speaker 5: Potter dot com and yeah, naturally we have thoughts about this,
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  Speaker 5: not go not a fan, to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Not a fan. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I already missed going to the web page and seeing
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  Speaker 1: the gorgeous Wizarding World logo with the wands that I
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  Speaker 1: thought was just absolutely perfect, like that opened like a book.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously I love just the term Wizarding World, and
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  Speaker 1: like we used it for this podcast.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I think that that was such a great
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  Speaker 1: rebrand when it happened, because we were like expanding the
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  Speaker 1: universe with Fantastic Bees, and you know, it's expanded even
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  Speaker 1: more with things like Hogwarts Legacy, and it just felt
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  Speaker 1: like we were opening up.
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  Speaker 4: This like multiverse like a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Big fandoms are doing, and it was a way to
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  Speaker 1: kind of nicely umbrella all of it. And now it
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  Speaker 1: just seems like we're just reversing that, and.
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  Speaker 2: Which is weird because I can't imagine they're not going
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  Speaker 2: to ever do any more spinoffs. We know that they
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  Speaker 2: own the rights to doing something with the Quidditch through
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  Speaker 2: the Ages thing. We are getting the TV show, which
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine if it does well, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: more spin offs of the TV show. Like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: Hogwart's Legacy is getting a sequel. So it's like, why
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  Speaker 2: are we pigeonholing this and calling it Harry Potter when
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  Speaker 2: it's still more than the Harry Potter series at this point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think condensing it to just Harry Potter
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  Speaker 5: feels like a step back, just because this universe is
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  Speaker 5: so expansive, and we've talked about this in previous episodes,
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  Speaker 5: like there's so much more stories that could you know, unfold,
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  Speaker 5: and people have been begging for ma arters series or
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  Speaker 5: movies forever, and so it's like, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 5: it's really it's sad that, you know, we're just coming
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  Speaker 5: down to Harry Potter when this universe is so rich
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  Speaker 5: and there's so many stories that could be told, and
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  Speaker 5: there's like, you know, obviously, like you said, Amy, like
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  Speaker 5: it's easier to google Harry Potter and it's more popular
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  Speaker 5: than just Wizarding World dot com.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe it wasn't getting enough hits. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's weird, And I've seen that argument a couple
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  Speaker 1: of places, and I will say I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of just there has been like discourse online of people
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  Speaker 1: being like this, I don't like this move. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like we're just trying to erase Fantastic Beasts, like, which
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  Speaker 1: makes sense because.
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  Speaker 2: Then you've got the theme park opening.
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  Speaker 1: Is literally yeah right, like and it's it's weird because
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like in a way, we have kind
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  Speaker 1: of taken this step back because you know, as of
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  Speaker 1: right now, we're probably not getting any more Fantastic Beast
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  Speaker 1: films and now the big focus is going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the new Harry Potter TV show. So in a way,
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  Speaker 1: it does seem like we are taking this step back
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  Speaker 1: of instead of going forward revisiting the not the old,
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  Speaker 1: but revisiting Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 4: And so it seems like.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this rebrand is kind of in line with potentially
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  Speaker 1: to help promote the show. But I also I think
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  Speaker 1: it is, but I don't know if it needed like
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  Speaker 1: a rebrand to help promote that, Like I think that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, was Wizarding World just niche
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  Speaker 1: enough that it was mainly just known in.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so though, because like the theme park
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  Speaker 1: is called the Wizarding World of Harry Potter and people know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they still call it Harry Potter Land.
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  Speaker 4: You still see that everywhere, which so maybe that's partly it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's people are calling it that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really the logo is Wizarding World of Harry Potter,
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  Speaker 1: so like the whole Wizarding World thing is not I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it is some niche thing. I think it
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  Speaker 1: is out there enough, and I just think it's a
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  Speaker 1: waste of a really cool logo, what I really do.
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  Speaker 5: It's beautiful, Yeah, it's it's it's really sad to see
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  Speaker 5: to see that happening at this stage. But it is
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  Speaker 5: also likely that, yeah, they want to like really move
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  Speaker 5: forward with you know, promoting the TV show and also
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  Speaker 5: probably just keep you know, making money out of the film.
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  Speaker 5: So they're just probably trying to get those two markets
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  Speaker 5: which are the most probably going to be the most
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  Speaker 5: powerful ones, and you know, maybe they didn't see much
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  Speaker 5: Fantastic Beasts merch related merch being sold or you know,
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  Speaker 5: they were seeing some and so. Yeah, but it is
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  Speaker 5: weird that they are literally about to open in less
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  Speaker 5: than a year this whole huge park based on Fantastic Beasts.
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  Speaker 5: Yet they you know, some people say they want to
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  Speaker 5: raise the systems of these films, which I hope isn't
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  Speaker 5: the case.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I don't think it is because obviously, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we are opening this whole part that's mainly around Fantastic Beace.
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  Speaker 1: But again, and like we talked about it in that episode, interestingly,
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  Speaker 1: its title has nothing to do with Fantastic Beace really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously there isn't. There is the French Ministry
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  Speaker 1: of Magic, but it's like the star of it is
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  Speaker 1: again the Harry Potter tie. So I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: I hope maybe sometime in the future that like this
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  Speaker 1: gets revisited and potentially gets reversed.
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  Speaker 2: Are they just going to rebrand again when they inevitably
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  Speaker 2: make another spin off? Like I just it doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: sense to me. No whoever is doing their marketing decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Brothers, if you're listening, please take.
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  Speaker 4: It back to Wizarding World time.
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  Speaker 2: Please.
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  Speaker 4: This WI podcast wants it to be with World dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: We will not be rebranding the podcast. We are not
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  Speaker 1: rebranding to a Harry Potter podcast. We are still a
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  Speaker 1: Wizarding World podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of Universal, Universal announced the opening date and ticket
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  Speaker 5: options for Epic Universe on October seventeenth. We learned that
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  Speaker 5: Epic Universe, which will contain the new Wizarding Paris Ministry
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  Speaker 5: of Magic Wizarding World of Harry Potter expansion, will open
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  Speaker 5: on May twenty second, twenty twenty five. Tickets went on
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  Speaker 5: sales starting October twenty second, and a please in a
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  Speaker 5: phased approach and at the moment, are available in three,
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  Speaker 5: four or five day options, where one of the days
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  Speaker 5: can be used at Epic Universe and the other days
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  Speaker 5: can be used in other Universal parks. Annual pass holders
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  Speaker 5: received a priority opportunity to start purchasing single day tickets
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  Speaker 5: to only Epic Universe on October twenty fourth. It looks
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  Speaker 5: like more ticket options, including single day options for the
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  Speaker 5: general public edition, multi day ticket options, Florida Resident tickets,
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  Speaker 5: and Universal Express passes will be available at a later date,
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  Speaker 5: but before the park opens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have I've I've had some mixed thoughts
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  Speaker 1: about about this this announcement, as Tom and Amy.
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  Speaker 2: No, Yes, a crisis. Yeah, I had a bit of.
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  Speaker 4: A crisis, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, on the one hand, I'm like super happy
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  Speaker 1: that it's opening in May. I think that's earlier than
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  Speaker 1: we thought. And right before they made this announcement, I
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  Speaker 1: had seen an article on Wall Street Journal that was
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: kind of talking about rumors of it being like a
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend thing, which seems to be pretty true.
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  Speaker 1: It's close enough, but definitely like the ticket sale thing
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  Speaker 1: has been a little stressful, and I'm in a couple
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: universal groups on Facebook still, and I'm still in the
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  Speaker 1: Universal Passholder group too, and there seems to still be
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of confusion with people about the releases here.
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  Speaker 1: So at the time of us recording this episode, it's
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  Speaker 1: the day after tickets went on sale to the general
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: public and the day before the annual passholder sale will
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  Speaker 1: go on. But yeah, this one was a little stressful
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  Speaker 1: for me because I currently am not an annual pass holder,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Like I chose not to renew my annual pass after
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: my last one expired, and so but I'm planning to
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: become an annual pass holder again. Literally in a few months.
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  Speaker 1: But in order to access these single day tickets, you
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: have to have an active annual pass. But what's kind
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: of frustrating is you only have to have an active
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: annual pass at the time of purchasing the tickets. You
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: don't have to still be an act like an active
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: annual pass holder at the time that you go. But
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  Speaker 1: I think this is probably because this is just phase
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  Speaker 1: one of tickets being released, so it is kind of
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  Speaker 1: more of a which I didn't realize at first. When
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  Speaker 1: I first read the announcement, I thought that they were
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: saying that only annual pass holders would have a chance
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  Speaker 1: to buy single day tickets and that would never go
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  Speaker 1: on sale for other people.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's just the way I read it, And.
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  Speaker 1: Then I read the official like press release and saw
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  Speaker 1: that this is just phase one, and in phase one,
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  Speaker 1: annual pass holders are getting essentially like a priority opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to purchase these single day tickets, and there's going to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: be single day.
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  Speaker 4: Tickets set aside for them.
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  Speaker 1: But then eventually, yeah, they're going to be available for
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  Speaker 1: you know, for other people. But yeah, my dilemma was like,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to if you don't currently have
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  Speaker 1: an annual pass You essentially have to buy this package
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  Speaker 1: of a three, four or five day and the ticket
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  Speaker 1: prices they're actually pretty reasonable, but like, if you're planning
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to become a pass holder, then essentially you're throwing away
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: money because if I were to, if I were to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have bought tickets when they went on sale on the
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  Speaker 1: twenty second and an annual pass and a couple months,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: that is some wasted money because I don't I won't
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: need the tickets for the other parks when I go
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: because I'll be a pass holder. So I ultimately decided
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to wait it out, and I'm going to wait until
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a pass holder in a couple months and just
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: see what's available and kind of go from there. But
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  Speaker 1: I think I've already seen that Opening weekend is like
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: already at least for the like the package deals is
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: like kind of already booked. But I'll say I'm not
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  Speaker 1: surprised either. But I'll say in the Facebook groups, I'm
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: in a lot of people in the annual passolder group,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying they're waiting to go,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that they're going to wait a couple of months, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even into twenty twenty six. So I'll be really
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: interested to see once they're all open for everybody, how
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: that actually how it actually plays out, because yeah, a
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: lot of people look like they want to wait.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: They did have soft openings for the first park in Florida,
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  Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: Like people have been talking about that in the passholder group,
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  Speaker 1: like if there's going to be like a passholder like
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  Speaker 1: soft opening preview. I just say, I think it'll probably happen.
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  Speaker 1: There's just not any like details at least yat on it.
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  Speaker 2: What I think is interesting is we've never gotten well,
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  Speaker 2: i mean, prior to Harry Potter, you've got the full
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  Speaker 2: park opening all at once, but like I mean, it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: been a really long time since you've just had like
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  Speaker 2: the entire park be new and open as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: just to section. So I'm wondering, like, obviously it's going
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to be crowded for quite a while, but I'm wondering
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: if it'll be quite as bad as how it was
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: when like Die got an alley opened and all of that, like,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: because it's going to be dispersed because they're going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: limit the tickets sold. I'm assuming right, because we're saying
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: it's already pretty much sold out, so they are putting
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: a limit and you've got the entire park, Like I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: feel like Nintendo and Dark Universe and all that's going
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: to be super popular too, so like people will disperse,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: which is good. Hopefully that kind of helps a little
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: bit with the crowds.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because, like you said, it's not just
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a section of a part like we've had in all
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: previous expansions. This is literally a new park, so demand
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: it's going to be huge obviously.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, I mean the way they're doing
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: these tickets is really to control like how many people
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: are going to be in there, and like if you buy,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: if you're not getting single day tickets as an annual
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: pass holder and you get this three, four or five
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: day option like you know, as you mentioned Tom, like
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you can only use one day at Epic Universe, right,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But it seems like annual passolders will be able to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: purchase like they could purchase essentially any like every day,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like if they wanted to. But I think that that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: will kind of control and I think Universal has definitely
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: really thought this out of like how can we make
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: it so that people that are coming, like are having
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a good experience, and it's not super crowded, and I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: think one hundred percent the fact that it's a whole
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: new park opening will really like help disperse. And there's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it's and all areas of this park look so cool.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Like there's not one area of this park that doesn't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: look cool. So I don't think it's right. The demand
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: isn't just for you know, Harry Potter, Like there's so
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: many people that are also excited about Nintendo World and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Dark Universe and you know how to train your dragon,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: so I think that'll help. But yeah, it's going to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be crazy. And it looks like like the ticket prices
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: are kind of like date based, so certain dates are
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: more expensive than others, and so that opening weekend and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: at first is more expensive and so that might also,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you know, to tear some people from waiting. But yeah,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it'll just be really it'll be really interesting to see
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: what happens. And I'm curious that when I have the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: opportunity to get at single day tickets in a couple months,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: when I have a pass, like I'll be curious to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: see what's still available like at that yeah, like at
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It's booked.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah mm hmmmm hmm.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to plan our trip, we got to go.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I was I was kind of I mean, my first thing,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, Amy, let's go to opening weekend.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: We got We're going.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: That's why I asked you. I asked you, are you
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: doing opening weekend?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Because well, and I really wanted to.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And it's like, because I have, like I am a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Disney World annual pass holder, and those tickets just went
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: up again in money price, so I don't know if
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be renewing, but either way, I have
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: that through June.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But when that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Expires, and I was like, this is perfect, I can
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: like use my pass again in May, go to the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: new park in May, and then found out that I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: would yet have to purchase multi day tickets and kind
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of was like, Okay, I guess I'll put the brakes
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: on on this. But I think too the thing going
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: open to a weekend is really cool and awesome, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like we went, like Amy and I went opening weekend
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: for Hagrid's when it opened. But I think there is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like cons to it, right because it's like there's kinks
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that have to be worked out, and it's new for everybody,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and it's just sometimes it is better to wait a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: couple months.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing. We did that at the time,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I was like twenty three, twenty four. It was rough
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: then at thirty, I don't know that I could handle it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Like we had to call down for extra pillows at
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the desk of the hotel to elevate our feet after
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: waiting in one for eight hours. I don't think my
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: thirty year old body could take it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: I think I would be I definitely can't for several days.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: No, definitely can't. And I mean I hope that like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they've also kind of like learned from that experience too.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I think it'll help because it seems like the new
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Ministry of Magic ride the cues likely not outside at all.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: So that's what's really hard about Hagrid is.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: That queue is outside and you have to lock up
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: all your stuff before you get in it, and there's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: no way to get I mean, and that was the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: worst part. It was the middle of summer in Florida.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: We were out in the sun because the ride kept
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like breaking down, and then it was I didn't ray.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, it was breaking down.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And the food, but you had locked up your no one.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: No one had any money because we had to lock
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: everything up and it was just it was a rough experience.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, At the same time, it makes sense that the
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: queue was in the open air because it kind of
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: like immerses you into that like you know hagrid ambience,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: you know, thing like the grounds, which is different from hogwarts,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: even different from dueling dragons. Remember there was a part
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: of the queue that was like inside a tent and uh, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: so it does make sense that you know it's out
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: there in the heat, well.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It's half outside, it's like you're outside, and then once
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you get inside.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: You're trapped in the awful hatchery room that is so
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: hot and loud, and.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous, like the design of it is gorgeous, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it is just miserable and now and once you're in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that room, you're in that room for like half an hour,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and then once you get out of that room, you're
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in these like caves and so storry if you have claustrophobia,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Like it's just it's hard. It's it's nice if you don't,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it's nice now that it's not an eight hour wait.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And now once when the universe opens, it'll be really
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'll be very curious to see like how that actually
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: impacts the other parks, because I feel like it won't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: because if you're buying this three, four or five day package,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you have to use those other.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Days at the other part.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: The other parts makes it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Busier mm hmm.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Interesting because it's going to be staggered. Who's going going
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to Epic that day? And it's going to draw more
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: people there.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know, definitely. So moving on to our last
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: bit of news. Last episode, we talked about how it
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: was announced that the touring version of Kirschild was going
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: to be shortened. We've since then learned that this shortened
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: version will also be happening to the Broadway show. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: this new shortened version of the place just under three
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: hours in length compared to the current running time of
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: three and a half hours. This new shortened version will
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: premiere on Broadway on November twelve, twenty twenty four, when
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: the new cast starts. Yeah, I consider myself lucky that
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I was able to experience it back in August, because
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: if I had been there in probably after November, then
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I would have gotten like the shortened version, not the
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: full experience.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a shame.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Because, like I said last episode, it doesn't feel that long,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: so I don't really know why they're doing it, Like.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: What else is Yeah, like we were saying, like what
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: else is going to get cut? I mean the good
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: thing is if you find yourself in London, the West
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: End Show is still the original length and two parts
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and so it still exists, which is good. Yeah mm hm,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And moving on to our main discussion. So obviously this
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: episode is coming out on Halloween, so we thought what
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: better topic than to discuss Halloween in the Wizarding World.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: So just like in the Muggle world, Halloween is celebrated
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and every year we know what Hogwarts they have a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Halloween feast, And in Sorcerer's Stone we get the description
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of the Great Hall it's being a thousand live bats
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: fluttered from the walls and ceiling, with a thousand more
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: swooped over the tables and low black clouds making the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: candles in the pumpkin stutter. So I mean, I love
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: even just the scene in the film. I'm a big
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Halloween fan.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Cell very sanitarys are in the those bats flying around Hogwarts.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: I don't think they fail it with the owls like
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: flying in delivering mail while everybody's eating. I think that's
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: already an issue.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so we know that, you know, they're obviously
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: celebrating Halloween, and sure, I'm sure it probably looks different too,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: especially because in the Muggle world a lot of Muggles
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: dress up as witches and wizards for Halloween, and so
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's like kind of nice
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: about that is it's like a day that actual witches
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and wizards can kind of maybe go out in their
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: normal wear and wouldn't stand out because it just looks
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: like costumes that the Muggles are wearing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Kind of that bridge.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the thing we really wanted to focus on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: this episode is that Halloween and October thirty first has
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: played a very important role in the series when it
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: comes to plot events, and I think sometimes like you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: have like just stopping and looking at it is like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: oh my god, so much has happened on Halloween in
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: this story. So we wanted to kind of just go
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: through the timeline of all the major events that we
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: know of that have happened on October thirty first.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the very first event that we know of
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: in fourteen ninety two, Sir Nicholas was executed, which is
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: quite the big jump from that date to the next
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: date we know, nineteen eighty one. So in nineteen eighty one,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: which we get in book seven in a flashback. In
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: book seven, Valtimore travels to Godric's Hollow and attacks and
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: kills the Potters. And interestingly, like you were just saying
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a second ago, Nicole, about which is in Wizards going
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Out in the Normal where that is the scenario we
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: get in this flashback where the little kid, the little
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Muggle boy sees Baltimore in his robe and says something
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: about nice costume.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Doom.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so that is I mean, we kind of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: knew this date and we knew that this happened, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: book seven was really where we kind of got the
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: context that it was happening, you know, during trick or treating,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and we got like all of that kind of added
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: visual to what went down.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Do we think that like, well, obviously, like there's the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: whole prophecy and everything too that you know, played a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: role into it, But if there was, you know, more
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to why it happened on Halloween and like you said,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and like during trick or treating, and you know, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just wonder if there was more like planning, like on
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Baltimore's it there.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: To do it on a day that's so I don't know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I mean people are out.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: It's an easy disguise too, right, like a distraction.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And yeah, just like you were saying, like little muggle
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Boy is like, hey, no is costume dude, like and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he's just you know, that's just him.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And it's like you can kind of.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: There's already like chaos happening, so maybe people wouldn't notice
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: so much if there is something going on. But also,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I mean just the history of Halloween in All Hallows
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Eve and how that veil between the living and the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: dead is supposed to be more thin on that night.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder if that has to do with making the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: horror crux. I wonder if there was something at play there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Hmm hmmm. I like that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's as far as that thought goes,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: but that's the thought.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: It could be.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Then he didn't plan it that well because he wasn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: planning on having another yeah yeah, yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, I mean yeah, he didn't walk in there,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you know, planning planning to make a horcrux, so very interesting.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you one maybe that played a role and why
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that went so wrong, I don't.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Know, because yeah, I mean because I think Halloween is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, very much seen as this both like spiritual,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: mystical kind of you know, it's the holiday that has
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of unknown around it, and it's just it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: just part of the spookiness of the holiday. And I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: feel like even across different cultures and stuff in different
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: ways it's celebrated in different cultures in different countries, it
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: still has the same kind of underlying tone a little
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: bit to it, that is that kind of mysterious vibe
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to it. And so yeah, maybe there is something about
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: just yeah, given you were saying about that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: You know, the just like the Da delos Moertos.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Part about it and the veil of it and just yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: committing like a murder on that day and it just
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: not really going to plan. And I mean we never get, yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: we never get any payoff of like why it necessarily
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: happens that day. But you know, as we'll see as
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we go through this timeline, like very there's something about
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: this day that is a plot driver.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: And yeah, mm hmm, Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I don't have a complete thought about it, but there's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: there's there's whispers of a thought that there.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So the use of Halloween is in just in the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: books either. So we do have this date from Hogwarts
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Mystery nineteen eighty four, and on Halloween that year, the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: werewolf Fenuer Grayback attacks Hogwarts in an attempt to spread licanthropy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I have not played Hogwarts Mystery, so I don't know
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a lot about this, but interesting.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: So then we get to nineteen ninety one, which is
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: obviously in book one, and we have the Halloween feast
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: which Nicole described earlier, and that feast is interrupted by
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the troll being loose in the castle. At that same time,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Coral is attempting to get past Fluffy into the Sorcerer's
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Stone and is stopped by Snape.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This is such an iconic scene, Like as soon as
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you said troll, I just heard troll.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Like the donjons.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Ye pass out.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: And the food on the table in that scene is oh,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Like I remember watching those kids like run off and
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I was like, no way I would run off without
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: grabbing a few, like you know, some drug stacks.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: And there was all the like treats and yeah, the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: students of Hogwarts really had it made when it came
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to celebrating. I mean, I think all their dinners were
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that extravagant. But yeah, the way that I couldn't imagine
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: celebrating like Halloween or Christmas in the Great Hall, it's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: so cool. But yeah, if a troll came and there
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: was an interruption, I would definitely be grabbing something because like, yeah,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I'm about to die, Like I want to have some
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: food before I go.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It's how going out. Yeah, but a lot of really
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: important stuff packed into that one night in that book.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: You know, this is very early in the story, but
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: we kind of get these seeds planted here and we
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: kind of find out more about what's going on obviously
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: at the end of the book, but you know, this
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: is your first clue of Quarrel being the bad guy,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Snape actually stopping Quarrel. Yeah, so definitely along that theme
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of super big plot events that happen on Halloween, I.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Think even too the whole like.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: This this scene also, I think really sets up like Harry,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Hermione and Ron's like future like as a friendship trio,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you know, and obviously like it's just how it comes
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to be, and you know why Hermione's even in the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: bathroom to begin with, and then you know, at the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, even though Ron was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: maybe not the best to her, you know before, like
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: he helps save her. And I think after this event,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it's almost like not like a trauma bond, but like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: kind of they really went through this ordeal, you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: as these three young kids, and that's like really the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: start of them being the trio, I think, which is
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: obviously so important to the rest of the story.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and how Hermione puts like her friendship in front
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: of her academics and her like, you know, like she
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: could have said, you know, I was just there by coincidence,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: but she took full of responsibility for it, and it
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: just speaks so much of how, you know, she's much
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: more of a Gryffindor. That's how you know, she shows
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: those those sides to her that are like really showcasing
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: who's she going to become. How much she's going to
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: sacrifice for her friends today is something like really small
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: like that, but in the future, she's going to sacrifice
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: her own life if she has to for her friends.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So I think it was really cute.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: And also the deleted scene from Sorcerer's Stone when you
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: mentioned that Nicole, Like when Ron says, what are friends
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: for it?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like a tear jerker.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: It's such a nice scene because it's like that friendship
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: is kind of like, you know, finally, like you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: it becomes a real thing, and it's so cute.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to this sets the tone for the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: future Halloween events and that all is not quite as
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: it seems. Right. We've got a lot of action going
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: on at the moment. You're more focused on the troll,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: but really the thing you should have been focused on
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: what was happening there under your nose the whole time,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: which kind of becomes the same sort of situation when
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: we get to nineteen ninety two in book two, which
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: that night there's a few things going on. But the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: thing that I'm thinking of that has that same sort
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of theme is when Ginny opens the Chamber of Secrets
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: for the first time in fifty years, Missus Norris is petrified.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: You're focusing not really on Jinny. You're focusing on Missus
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Norris and the message on the wall and all this stuff,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: But really, the underlying thing happening is there, but we
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: aren't really paying attention to it, the whole Tom Riddle
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: plot everything else, and then the whole nearly headless Nix's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: death day party that same night is also that thing
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that kind of takes the attention away, and it's more
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: of like an innocent moment, like kind of funny, and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: then you've got this very serious thing going on, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: we can't grasp what's actually going on in that moment.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Until interesting a while later.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, I al will think
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: about the PlayStation one game with its death day party,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: like everyone remembers that. So Pete's throwing cakes at you
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: and stuff.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: It was fun.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite chapters, and I think I
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: mentioned that in our first episode, but I just I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: love that chapter. The ghost who keeps walking through the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: food with his mouth open trying to taste it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I just want to eat this, can't.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It's so funny, Like it's so morbid, but so funny.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Behavior of all the ghosts, I think is always great.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to say Tom.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: No, I was just going to say, because watching Chamber
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Secrets last time just make me think, how did he
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: how did he get unpetrified? Like he's a ghost so
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: he you know, Okay, he didn't die because he was
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: already dead.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: He got predified. How did they apply the Man Drake
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: cure on him?
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Like I was literally I went into Reddit and I
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I had that question, and I was
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: like going around and some people maybe they sprayed it
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: on him or something like it's a question like you know, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: like how.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Did it's weird like osmosis absorption or something?
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they say, well, they say that it's because he
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: isn't invisible, so he's obviously has some sort of existence
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: still attached to him even.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: If he's a ghost.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: The fact that he's still visible might be like, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: why he was able to get like, quote unquote cured.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: So just a random thought.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So in nineteen ninety three, in book three,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: would get yet another Halloween event that isn't quite as
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: it seems serious. Black enters the castle in search of
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Peter Pettigrew. In that moment, we think he's a crazy
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: killer in the loose he stands over Ron with the knife. Yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: but later we realize he's not the crazy killer in
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the Loose. He's arguably still a little crazy, but he's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: looking for the.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Real Killer's just in as command for years and years
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and years, like anyone would go a little crazy. Sorry,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I got to defend my serious black when I can.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I really like, just yeah, really, what
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you've pointed out about just all these events just really
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: not being what they seem like.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: And that seems to be this common thread with all of.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Them, which when you think about Halloween, isn't that the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: whole point of Halloween. It's not what it seems, not
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: what it seems. People are in costume, they're not really
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: who they appear to be, the supernatural, not what it seems,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. So it does fit a theme.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: The killer is not the killer.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: M h. Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: There seems to be this, you know, kind of like
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: pattern going on with Halloween, and I'm very curious to
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: see why JK. Rowling chose these dates. But it's a
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: good Yeah, it's a good I haven't thought about it
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: that way. Interesting analysis.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So in nineteen ninety four, in book four on Halloween,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the Triwizard Champions are chosen from the Goblet of Fire. Obviously,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the twist there is the fourth name comes out of
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the goblet, and it's Harry. There's not supposed to be
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: for again, not what it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Seems when it seems Harry even.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Gone off in the real.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: We were watching Goblet of Fire last night, like a
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: couple of nights ago, and my boyfriend was like, he's
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: very loud in this film, Like he's screaming the whole
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: time whenever he speaks, and I was like, yeah, it's
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: kind of something you know the movie has. There's there
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: was something going on with the with Sir Michael Gamban
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: in this film.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: He was going through it that year, you know, Yeah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it was a stressful year, I think. I mean,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I think to this day it's right, like right, understandably, right,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: You've got Fred and George over here trying to trick
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: things out, and there's just you know they are they're
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: hosting all these students at the school. That's probably stressful.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: They literally just had the Chamber of Secrets opened a
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and they're bringing all these people
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: to the school.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Like there's a lot going on.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Mentors the mentors last year, like Doubledo knows something going
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to happen, you know, he knows. But I mean, I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: think the best thing about that scene in the film
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and like, I'm so not mad that it's like that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: in the film, because it's obviously just become such a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: funny thing for us. But it's just the irony of
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: it that, you know, in the book, it's literally described
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: as him saying it calmly, and it's just the whole
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: juxtaposition of it being the opposite of not calm in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the movie.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: It just makes it great.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which also makes sense. It's not doesn't seem too
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: out of character that he does it that way in
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the film either because he's genuinely like worried about Harry
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: and he knows that, you know, this is a very
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: dangerous competition. People have died there, so obviously, you know
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: he's a little you know, kind of like on edge
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: because it definitely, like you said, there's so much going
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: on that year. He has a lot of people infiltrated,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: bad guys in within the castle. He always expects, but
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: you know, it's like he's got a lot on you know,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: on his plate at the at this point. So yeah,
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's also like kind of makes sense why
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: he says it in that tone in the films.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I agree it.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Almost I think it kind of almost makes more sense,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: because right, it's like, you know, Dumbledore like obviously knows
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: more about what's possibly.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Going on here, you know, and his whole.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Thing is like keeping Harry alive and in knowing the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: importance of keeping Harry alive and all of that, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: now here is this like binding thing that Harry has
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to do that yeah, like you said.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Has led to peril.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And it's just, yeah, it does make sense for him
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to kind of react in that way, but then kind
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of step back later, you know, and like not like
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: maybe apology kind of like an apologetic way to Harry,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: but like to then then step back and say, this
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: is why I reacted, you know, in that way. And
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I think too, like I don't necessarily think and this
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: is me kind of again taking movie Dumbledore reaction. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: don't think Dumbledore would have initially believed really that Harry
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: did it right, because like, Harry's a great wizard even
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: though he's young, but like to be able to like
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: out smart you know, the age charm and stuff when
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: others couldn't. I mean, we see it doesn't work for
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Fred and George, and so I think like in the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: back of Dumbledore's mind he knows there, you know, he
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: knows there's something more going on here, and I think
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that's also why that rage or that not that rage,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: but just that emotional outburst and the urgency makes sense
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: because it's this like, Okay, there's something else going on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that I haven't figured out yet. Yeah, because there's no
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: way that Harry entered him himself here.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Obviously this is a huge plot event to occur
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: on you know, on Halloween, because Harry being chosen is
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: obviously so vital to everything that unfolds.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Through the Triwizard Tournament that sets up the rest of the.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Story such a breaking point.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Which interestingly, that's like the last actual Halloween event we
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: get in the book series, other than that book seven flashback,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about in a minute. So strangely,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the next date on our timeline isn't actually until twenty
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: twenty with Chris Child, and on Halloween Night in twenty twenty,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Harry Ron Hermione and Ginny and Draco drops Draco's name
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: out of this timeline. Oops forgotten again.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I love Draco's story and curse Child.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: They traveled back in time from one Halloween Night to another,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: so they go from twenty twenty back to eighty one. Yeah,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: eighty one, the night of Harry's parents' death. That scene
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: is so good in the show and so hard to break,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: so emotional.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I never would have expected to tear up watching
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: kurs Child, but I did because of that scene and
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Snape scene too when he sacrifices himself. So that was
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: and it's also very real. Even though many you know,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: many of us, I include myself, don't you know, necessarily
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: consider Curse Child Cannon. It is something that actually happened,
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: So they're revisiting, you know, something that is obviously you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: part of the story is canon. And that's why I
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: think it means so much to to to people when
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: they when they see it, because it's not something they
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: made up. It's actually like a recap and revisiting this
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: thing that is so crucial in story and so important
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: and so heartbreaking. So I think it's a it's an
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: equally beautiful and and sad mm hmm.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how I like felt about this scene
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: the first time I watched it, because I'm like, man,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I like the idea of them
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: like going back in time and like watching the murders happen.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: But then there is something about that scene and just
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: kind of what it means for like Harry to kind of,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously he was there the first there's time too,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: but as a baby and doesn't remember it, and just.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: It's I don't know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I think maybe I still don't know how I feel
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: about it, like from a plot standpoint.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: But the way that it's done in the show is
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: so good.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that part not being there, So yeah,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I think we talked about
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that a little bit when we've talked about Chirschild before,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: about like there are certain things in that show that
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: you kind of are end up being okay with just
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: because of how well it's done in like a play,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: like in the play production, the theatrical production.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: It can kind of help you.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe like get over some issues you may have with
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: certain parts of it. But yeah, I don't know how.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about this. I think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it's because I like worry for Harry, like this is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a very traumatic thing, right, I mean, it literally is
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: something that has traumatized his whole life. And one of
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the things that I liked about it. Initially was he
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: was a baby, and so he was not going to
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: remember anything about that night. You know, he had glimpses,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: right of like hearing having dreams and stuff with his
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: mother screaming and all this kind of stuff, but like
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the full memory wasn't necessarily there because he was a baby.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: And so then now as an adult, he's like seeing
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it and experiencing it. I just think about like opening
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: up these old wounds and stuff like that, and I
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: just were like, I don't know, but I understand the.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can also see of it as him
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: having closure, like finally, you know, like for him, I
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: think it's also I don't want to say comforting, but
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: it's it's somehow like you know, he always had he
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: always had this you know, question of what happened that night,
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: and you know, he obviously, like you said, he didn't
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: remember other than some screams, and so I think it's
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: also gave him closure on that on that and I
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: think it made him being able to like move forward
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: to the next chapter in his life. He seems to
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: be very by the end of the play, he seems
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: to be very happy where things are going and at
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: peace with everything. So I think for him it was
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: something that some ways he needed to see or he
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: needed to witness in one way or another, even if
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: it was hard, because it would help help him develop
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: later on and move forward from that.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: And you know, turn the page.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: And it's such a moment of like he's such a fixer,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: like he needs to solve everything and be the savior
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: of every moment, and just him having to kind of
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: sit there and realize this has already.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I can't say. I can't say that, I can't change that.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: It's such a big thing for him, I think.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm. And having everyone with him too, because he's
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: not alone in that moment.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So, as I mentioned before, we have that
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: big jump from nineteen ninety four to twenty twenty with
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Halloween events. Noticeably in book five and book six, this
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: pattern drops off and we don't get the big Halloween night.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Something in the plot happens that said. I wanted to
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: kind of go through and see what you guys think
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: could have been those Halloween events, like what maybe in
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: the timeline would work and what maybe could have been
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: originally planned for Halloween, and then maybe that little detail
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: got the ax. I have a couple ideas which I'll share.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: So for nineteen ninety five Book five, my immediate thought
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: is Harry dreaming of the Department of Mysteries and maybe
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: like the first time he dreams that could have been
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: around that October timeline. Possibly m.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Something deceiving right kind.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Of fits the bill because he doesn't really understand the
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: dream and it's kind of like weird, so a whole
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: not as it seems moment. Every time I say not
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: as it seems, the Wizards of Waverley Place theme song
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: goes in my head.
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: Oh high school flashbacks.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. What do you guys think? Are
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: there any other events that it could have maybe been?
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: See? I mean, I'm not I'm not sure.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I like that one, and I was I was kind
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: of thinking, yeah, something along the Department of Mysteries because
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: obviously that then becomes this bigger thing and obviously, you know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the whole like attack and everything on mister Weasley like
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't have happened that early, like that early.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: But that's like also.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Something that's kind of like that Halloween type event, you know,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: of it being not exactly what it seems right and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: being this bigger thing that has a bigger consequence thing,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: but obviously in a timeline perspective wouldn't work that early
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: in the years in Christmas time. But it's not that
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: far off, really, right, It's only a couple of months.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: But that was kind of the first thing I thought of,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: so similar to you with the Department of Mysteries, which.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: That has like very similar tones to all the other
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: things from the other books. When you think about Christmas
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: on the closed ward and they see the guy there,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I forget his name, but he like wasn't speaking, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: then they said something like he was starting to regain speaking,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and then the plant is delivered and they like witness
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the plant being delivered for him and he's getting like flowers,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: but really it's the plant that strangles them later, right,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: So like that all has that same sort of tone
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: of looking a certain way and then being a lot
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: more sinister than what it appears.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Mm hm hmm.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't think of anything for book five,
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: like could be maybe Umbridge, but just as just as
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: a whole speaking of deceiving, being deceiving and being something
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: you're not and just you know, sugarcoating pure evil, like
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: she was probably one of Harry's detention periods, but a
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: lot of it, a lot, a lot of the things,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: these things that happened are happening inside Harry's head. Such
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: a psychological plotline year five. So I think, you know,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of going to echo on that his dreams
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: because obviously not everything is what it seems, and definitely
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: that's what Harry was living through his dreams. That obviously
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: also was you know, was being triggered by Voldemort slowly
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: starting to like kind of get into his head and
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: trying to manipulate him and trying to like so I
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: think it's a good it's a good theory that, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Harry's dreams could have been on Halloween one of his
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: dreams least.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, for nineteen ninety six, book six, I've got
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: a couple theories here. One of the first things that
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: came to mind was Katie Bell getting cursed by the Locket,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: which happens on a Hogsmead weekend, and Hogsmead trips typically
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: seemed to start around October Halloween ish time. I know
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: in the movie there's snow and stuff, but that's a
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: movie ism, so who knows, not unheard of test snow
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: on Halloween. But yeah, this moment for me, I feel
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: like also fits the bill for looking a certain way
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and not being you know, because we don't know that
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: it's Draco who gave the locket, and the lockett is
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: kind of not even the worst thing that Draco's up
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to anyway, as we find out later, So it's got
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: kind of some of those lag.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: That was the one I actually thought of too, because
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: it's like, I think that it's exactly like you said,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's just another example of it's not exactly what
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: it seems, and it's very integral to the whole mystery
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: of what happens in the book and like the plot
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of the book and where the book goes, and it's
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: one of those situations where it looks like it's just
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the scene of something happening, but it really is so
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: much more important than that. And so I agree, and
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: I think also right, I do think it is more
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: of a movieism that we're seeing it in the snow
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: and at Christmas time, because I agree that Hogsmead is
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: more of this a fall and that's kind of when
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: they start going to hogs me it is like in
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the Fall, and I can see that happening around October.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: The other thing I thought of for book six is
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the scene of Malfoy crying in the boy's bathroom and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the use of sectums, because it's kind of a few
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: different things happening there. You've got the Draco moment of Okay,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: what in the world is going on here with Draco?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Something's happening, And then you've got the moment where the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Prince's book goes from being this useful tool to kind
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: of sinister and like that ooh, maybe we shouldn't be
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: trusting this person moment after Harry uses a spell and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: finds out exactly what it does. You also have snapes reaction,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: which is planning the seed for us eventually finding out
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: he is the inventor of the spell and he is
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: the Prince. So there's some of those different tie ins.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of Book one Halloween in
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have this such this simple, simple moment, but
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: when you really kind of like peel back the layers
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: of that moment, just yeah, just what you said. I mean,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: it starts planning the seed of just the emotional turmoil
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: that Draco's going through, And I think it's like the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: first time we really see him kind of break and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: start to see that cracks in that and really kind
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: of start to see the Yeah, there's the toll that
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: it's taking on him, and that's obviously important for later
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: books Curse.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Child, like, it's just it really starts to set up
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: just his arc.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Really, I won't call it a redemption art because I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: know people have issues with Draco having like a redemption arc,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: but it's the start of his arc.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: And yeah, exactly what you said.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a foreshadow of finding out later
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: that snape is the Half Blood Prints, and it's one
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of the those things where it's like when you finish
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: the book and you learn everything, it's like one of
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: those moments you can go back to and be like,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: this was being plotted, This was being plotted, and this
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: was being plotted. And exactly what you said is that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: completely makes up these Halloween events. They all are about
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: these little things, even if in the moment it doesn't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: seem like it's a big deal.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I like that one too.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: There's always this underlying event that kind of encompasses everything
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: and it's like you don't see it, but it's there,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: and it's like revealed at a later stage in the book.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think, yeah, I think it's a good point.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So after I kind of was looking through this,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I was searching to see if I could find anything
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: about timelines and if any of these actually matched up.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: In that search, I stumbled across some great essays about
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: exactly this, the Halloween pattern in the books and those
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: missing halloweens that Irvin from the Three Broomsticks podcast wrote.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: His online writings are under the name h P Boy thirteen.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: And Yeah, he wrote this series of essays and actually
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: looked at the book outline in the History of Magic
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Exhibit Companion book that is from JK. Rowling, and compared
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: that outline to some of the book events that could
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: possibly have fallen in there originally. So some of the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: things that he brought up, he speculated book five those
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Halloween events could have been two things that we already
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: kind of said. So he echoed my thought of Department
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: misses streams and Nichole's thought of the attack on mister
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Weasley through ni Ghine's eyes, which that one urban speculates
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: could have originally been planned for October, not December, since
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: in that outline that rolling row she had already moved
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: it from November to December, so it could have been
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: end of October. Could have been pretty close. The other
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: event he points to is the forming of the DA
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: because again, a Hogsmead weekend could have been Halloween. Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I also think that maybe the fact that these happened,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: like if it were if it was changed and pushed
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: to December, these specific things had happened could be also
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: you know, a way of JK. Rowling just suggesting that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: not even Christmas is safe anymore. Not you know, it's
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: not that safe space it was once, and it's you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: know it's kind of like yeah, so it's kind of like,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: you know, you're entering this darker world, this darker realm,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: and he's entering this you know, he's slowly entering into adulthood.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: So you know, it's it's not a bed of roses
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: like you know, it's it's getting heavy. And so this
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: these things happening around such a you know, uh, this
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: this festivity season and where you know, everything's supposed to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: be joy and happiness and just warmth, you get this
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: you know this very.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this very dark thing going on that.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: I think that's also could be another reason why these
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: were pushed back, so that you know, they could just
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: relate you know, Christmas.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: It's also a.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: Heavy time and it can be heavier and it's going
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: to get worse, and you know, even happens in deathly
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: hollows like you know, so it's it's kind of like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: and and definitely hollows. It's no because it's Christy. Yeah,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: it's Christmas. So when they go to Guardy's Hollow, it's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: Christmas Eve, and so a lot of things happen on
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: those you know, Christmas after the the first four books
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: that are kind of like milder in that sense.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so book six. Urvin also points to that Katie
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Bell Lockett moment as well in his essays. So it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: seems like a lot of people are kind of in
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: agreement of some of the things that could have been
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: those plot points.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting. It's fascinating how when you take look
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: at this stuff laid out in a timeline, just seeing
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: all of the threads and the similarities and all of that,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: it's very very cool.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way. Until you've
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: brought it up and it does make sense, total sense,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: so good.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: This is why we love these books. That wraps up
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: our main discussion.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: It's about to leave grab on to the pork Key.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: So for this episode's rotating segment, we decided to do
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the port Key, which is obviously where we highlight different
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Wizarding World travel locations or experiences, and we thought that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: talking about the Forbidden Forest Experience was kind of right
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: in line with the whole spooky theme of a Halloween episode.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: So Harry Potter A Forbidden Forest Experience is a nighttime
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: woodland trail experience that's filled with magical creatures and other
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: magical and interactive encounters from both the Harry Potter and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: The Fantastic Beast films. So the experience is an outdoor
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: walking path through a literal forest, and along the way
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you feel just completely immersed through soundscapes and music and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: dialogue from the film that's kind of pumping around, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: when you're walking through the forest, there's like lights and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: projections and props and animatronics kind of all over the place.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: It just truly brings like the whole experience to life.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: So myself and Amy along with Lizzy from our social
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: media team, had a chance to go to the Forbidden
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Forest Experience all the way back in October of twenty
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: twenty two. We went for a press preview when it
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: opened in Westchester, New York, and so this was actually
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: the first time that the experience had come to the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: United States, and then since then it's been in other
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: locations as well, and it is back I don't know.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I think now it is back on the East Coast
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: and Washington, DC area, and I would love to go
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: again at some point because it's so cool and you know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you kind of start with Hagrid and Fang. They're right
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: there to you know, guide your way into the forest.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And as you kind of walk through the trails, we
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: saw magical creatures like headwig and nifflers and boat truckles,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: and there was pygmy puffs and corners, pixies and werewolves
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: and unicorns and spiders and like everything you can think
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: of was there. Grop even makes an appearance, so you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: truly feel like you're in the forest. And there's also
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: like some fun interactive elements as you're walking through the paths,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: so you can bow to buckbeak, there's a play area
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: where you can do a wand duel, and there's also
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: fun themed food and merchandise as well, and so it's
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a really cool experience and I hope to definitely be
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: able to go again, and I definitely recommend if it's
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: coming to a city near you to definitely go. It
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: really is perfect for this time of year and spooky
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: season because you know you're out in.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: The forest, and.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of I mean, I've been fortunate
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: to do a few different Harry Potter experiences over the years,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: but I think this one was definitely one of the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: coolest ones I've done. And it was one of those
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: ones that like really surprised me and was even better
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: than I kind of imagined that it would be.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know what to expect, but like it
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: took us probably like an hour and a half or
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: more to walk through, Like we really took our time.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to see. I don't know how it
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: was when it opened to the publics Like Nichole said,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: we went on press night, but they had like the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: food and drinks was like a little break kind of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: in the trail, so it was like midway through you
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: could stop get like a hot chocolate cupcakes that sort
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: of thing, and like sit and hang out and eat
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and then continue on your way, which was really nice.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: They have food set up, so they have like I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: don't yeah, I don't know, and I don't know, Like obviously,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: we won a couple of years ago, so they could
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: have changed it and you know, updated it since. But
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: they actually have two different kind of places for food.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: So when we went for the press preview, the main
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: food wasn't open for us, but it kind of it
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: was like right, yeah, it was like before you went in,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: they had it set up like a village, like.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: A little kind of almost like hogsmade.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Village kind of thing, and that's where they were having
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: like actual food available. And then yeah, halfway through they
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: had some tents set up and we each got I
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: think it was was a hot chocolate. I think it
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: was hot chocolate that was house themed and they had
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: some like cakes and it's all like British food inspired
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and which is always fun. And then the merch was
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: at the end as well. Unfortunately the merch booth wasn't
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: open for the press preview, but there was we like
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: definitely they had a big kind of tent set up
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: for it, and I've seen some of the merch that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: they offer since, and it was a little envious that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't able to get to get anything, you know,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: other than some of the little things they gave us
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: as part of the press preview, but.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: The really left in the refrigerator at the hotel.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I completely forgot about that. So, yeah,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: they gave us as part of like our press package.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: We got a bottle of butter beer. N Yeah, nice
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: collectible one, and we all put it in the fridge
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: at the hotel. You know, we're going to want to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: crack open a nice cold butter beer.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: And then the next day.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: We checked out and all of us left our butter
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: beer in the fridge.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: So we were so upset we even called the hotel.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I made this really awkward phone call and I was like, yeah,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: there's three bottles in the refrigerator of room such and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: such and it says butter beer on the label level.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and by unfortunately they were already gone. Oh man,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I forgot about that. Oh yeah, that was.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rep the butter beer. I mean, it's the ones
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that you can buy. But it was nice because we
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: got it for free. It's like, you know, I wanted
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: to keep it, but yeah, I mean really just such
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: a cool experience. And I'll put a link in the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: show notes of like the article and the video the
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Amy put together for the coverage that we did when
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: we want if you want to look at that, and
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: there's some pictures in the video is really cool, so
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I'll put it in our show notes. And there is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: also you can go to the HP Forbidden Forrest Experience
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: dot com to learn more about the experience and find
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: out you know, where it's currently located and and get
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: tickets and all that fun stuff. And yeah, grab that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: porky and go.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: I think it sounds so so interesting, such a nice
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: like immersive like we always talk about the immersiveness, how
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: important it is to us as fans because we love
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: more than anything to be like fully submerged in this
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: world as much as possible. So seeing them use like
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: real forests for these experiences and at night it must
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: be such a magical thing. Unfortunately I haven't been to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: any of them yet, but they seem I've seen pictures,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: I've seen posts, I've seen like a lot of you know,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: on social media and it does seem to be like
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: a very one of a kind experience, and I'm I'm
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: thinking it might be the case of the upcoming Hogwarts
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Express one that's I think it's next year, thinking it
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: might be something similar to that. So, yeah, it's always
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: so nice to have all of these things like scattered
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: across the globe and just you know, being able to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: do all of these events and you know, yeah and
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: just immersive experiences that add so much to to to
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: us as fans.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the good thing about this experience too is
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not you know, specific to America. Like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I mentioned, it actually started I believe it was like
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: in if I remember right, I think it started just
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: pulling up the website. I think it started in the
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: UK before it came to America. And it's also been
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: in France actually right now, it's open in France, it's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: been in Belgium, it's been in Singapore, it's been in Melbourne.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: So it's definitely, Yeah, it's definitely an experience that they're
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: bringing all over and right now. Yeah, if you're in
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: around mont Lawn, France, Virginia, I think that's where Lesberg is.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: That's like the Washington, DC, and then Austin, Texas is
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: where you can get tickets for it now.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's really cool.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: And I think the fact that it's set at night,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: like kind of what you were saying, Tom, like, really
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: does help the immersion of it because it's just the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: way the lights are and the projections.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: And the sounds. It just looks. Yeah, it's so cool
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: and it looks so real.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Like I just remember like walking in and yeah, just
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: seeing the big like it wasn't an animatronic but figure
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: of Hagrid and he's got like his back to you
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: and he's kind of walking into the forest and like
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it really looks like his Hagrid.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Standing there, you know.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: And even just the things like the way they did
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the light projection of like the unicorn. It was like
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: back like in the trees, and it looked like the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: unicorn was like walking through the trees. Yeah, and you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: know it from from where like the depth perception of it,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: it truly looked yeah, you know, because I feel like
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I just expect a unicorn to have this weird kind
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of white glow about it, so it looked so real
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: and you know it's not, but it just looks so
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: real and it was really Yeah, it's really cool. I
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: mean the fact that I went two years ago and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I still really remember it, like I'm like I was
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: there clearly hopefully shows like what kind of an impact
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: the experience can have on you. There was a real
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: finale that they did too, which we will spoil it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the video. If you watch the video, it
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  Speaker 4: will spoil it.
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  Speaker 2: Because I specifically didn't put it in the video. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they asked us not to spoil it, and we followed
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  Speaker 2: that rule and didn't spoil it. Other people did so.
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  Speaker 2: But it's very cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's very cool finale, and it's just cool the way
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  Speaker 1: that they like obviously, you know, they move it between
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  Speaker 1: different forests, and so I love to go again in
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  Speaker 1: another location just to see because it's like, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that they obviously have to tweak things a little bit
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  Speaker 1: based on the forests that they're using. And there was
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  Speaker 1: like a part in the finale that we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to spoil, but made use of the water that was
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  Speaker 1: naturally in the forest that we went to. But obviously
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  Speaker 1: not every forest is going to have this like perfectly
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  Speaker 1: placed water feature.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm curious to.
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  Speaker 1: See how they kind of work around the different landscapes
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  Speaker 1: of these different forests you.
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  Speaker 4: Know that they use.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's really cool and I hope it's an
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  Speaker 1: experience they kind of continue and that people are still
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  Speaker 1: going to And yeah, I think that it also, like
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  Speaker 1: you were saying, with this new like Hogwarts express experience
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  Speaker 1: like it, I know that they could do such a
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  Speaker 1: good job because they've done such a great job with
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  Speaker 1: these other experiences that they've done. It just helps you
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  Speaker 1: to have faith in like every future thing that they do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's such.
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  Speaker 4: A cool experience.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that it's an actual forest, I think that's
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  Speaker 5: kind of like that's amazing because they could have done
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  Speaker 5: it like a you know, like a museum or you know,
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  Speaker 5: like the Harry Potter exhibition or but the fact that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: they chose like natural, you know, environments makes it so
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  Speaker 5: much better.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure. So I love that bit too.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know, I want to know who was
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: like sitting at the table to be like, guys, I
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: have an idea, let's like build the Forbidden Forest like
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  Speaker 1: in a forest, right right, like an actual forest, and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to make them walk through the actual forest.
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  Speaker 4: It's perfect it's perfect. It's so perfect. Whoever thought of it? Genius?
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  Speaker 1: So great, and yeah, go to the website, check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Go when it comes near you tag us in your
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  Speaker 1: pictures so we can see it.
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  Speaker 2: In this time of year is like perfect too. The
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: fall like it's it's great.
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  Speaker 1: We were all bundled up, we all like I think
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I wore my Slytherin scar so I was able to
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: really get into it now, right, Yeah.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Oh man, going shorts, going shorts in the T shirt.
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  Speaker 4: That would be bad though.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: There's too many bugs, tick bite or something like that,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: so I would but yeah, oh my god, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure this time of year, and you know, and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: of course with it moving around to the weather is
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: obviously not going to necessarily be the same, you know,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: especially when they're taking into different countries.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's so cool.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: And luckily it did not rain for us or snow
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: the night that we went. Yeah, that could maybe put
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: a bit of a damper on this experience. That's the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: one kind of I guess, if I'm going to say
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: any negativity of it is that obviously it's an outdoor event, right,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: so you do have to kind of be mindful of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: the fact that you may experience mother nature you're on
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: this experience. That's probably the only negative though that I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: can think of. And I feel like in the last
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: two years, like it's probably even improved from when we
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: went two years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, go.
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  Speaker 2: Very cool.
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  Speaker 7: So nios.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: So on our last episode we ask you what do
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: you think your wand would and core say about you?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: So we got a response from Felicia and she says
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Burpotter Moore. My one wood is acacia, which makes once
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: that often refuse to produce magic for any but their owner,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: withhold their best effects from all but those most gifted
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: and are often underrated. My core is unicorn hair, which
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: again makes for the most faithful of all ones, which
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: usually remains strongly attached to their first owner and are
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: generally the most difficult to turn to the dark arts.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: On the one hand, unicorn here generally produces the most
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: consistent magic, but on the other hand, unicorn arms do
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: not make the most powerful ones. I think this combination
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: ties in well with my house Hufflepuff, which values loyalty, kindness,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: and being dependable, but is often overlooked because its members
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: aren't generally the ones who seek power h Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like that, So thank you, Felicia.
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  Speaker 5: And so for our discussion question, we would like to
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: know what do you think happened on the Missing Halloweens
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: and Books five and six.
• 1:22:41
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• 1:23:11
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• 1:23:22
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• 1:23:32
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• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: these little things from the series that we can still
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: talk about so many years later. So this was a
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: really fun episode definitely, I mean.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Happy Halloween, everybody.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: I mean you're listening to this on Halloween, hope you're
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: going trig or treating or giving out some candy and
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Foween season to end. Yeah, it's my favorite. But kind
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: of excited for us to transition to Christmas a little
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: bit this year.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: So we may have to explore some Christmas events coming
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: up in a couple of months. Yes, we'll go through
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: a timeline for that. Oh.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Tom kind of already sat the stage right saying that,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: you know, in some later books the events kind of
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: start switching from Halloween at Christmas, So.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: Little discuss more to come for sure.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, until next time, I'm Amy, I'm Nicole
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm Tom.