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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, January fourth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game is in two hundred and forty days. The
- 0:06game gets Michigan in three hundred and thirty one days. We had a great
- 0:10plan for today's show. It was all going to be about basketball. Tony
- 0:13and I were going to be at the game tonight, and it was all
- 0:15going to be wonderful, and then life happens, and sometimes, kids,
- 0:19you have to call an audible. Today's show is a little bit of an
- 0:21audible. The High State football team got some very big news on Wednesday night.
- 0:26Ty Leek Williams is returning for the twenty twenty four season, and he
- 0:30might not be the last Buckeye defensive lineman who makes that decision. We're going
- 0:34to be taking a run through the whole defensive line room and what we might
- 0:39what we might be about to hear from a couple other guys, what it
- 0:41means that Tyler Williams is back, and much more. With our buddy Vinnut
- 0:44If bucke Huddle dot com, Kevin is on the road right now down in
- 0:48San Antonio at the All American Game, we'll probably talk about that on a
- 0:52separate show. But Kevin, first of all, how big is it to
- 0:55get ty Leek Williams back for the Buckeyes in twenty twenty four. I think
- 0:59it's very huge for them to get Tyler Williams back. I mean, this
- 1:02is a defense that could return most of the team potentially if the decisions go
- 1:07the right way. It was a very veteran led team this year, and
- 1:11it's going to be super veteran last year. Let's not forget that that team
- 1:17up north that is playing for that title up north right now had forty four
- 1:21seniors because of the way that it's roster backed up. And if Ohio State
- 1:26can get a little roster back up and have a veteran led team, I
- 1:30mean, especially off of a defense I've played quite well this year. I
- 1:34mean that defense held Missouri off the scoreboard for three quarters. Okay, Missouri
- 1:38spord like on the first play of the fourth quarter, but kept them off
- 1:41the board for three quarters. Three points was going to be enough to win
- 1:44the damn game until it wasn't. So I mean this is huge, especially
- 1:48at a position where it looked like Ohio State could be really thin. And
- 1:52while we do know, the decision of one guy leaving and one the decision
- 1:55of one guy coming back. Things could look very different if point flips one
- 2:00in the other direction. Yeah, we I don't think have heard officially from
- 2:05ty Hamilton, but from talking to him at the ballgame, it certainly sounded
- 2:07like he was planning on coming back. So if you have him, when
- 2:10you have kyleik Williams in the middle of that defensive line, boy, that
- 2:14gives you a really solid one two punch in the middle of that line.
- 2:17TYLERK Williams. It felt like for years we were kind of waiting on,
- 2:22boy, when is it going to happen. When is it going to happen?
- 2:23When's it going to happen. He had five sacks as a true freshman
- 2:27in twenty twenty one, and it was like, oh, boy, it's
- 2:29about to happen. And then sophomore season, played in all thirteen games only
- 2:34twenty one tackles, two and a half for loss in one sack, and
- 2:36it was like, Oh, is this just not going to happen for him
- 2:38junior year. This season fifty three tackles, more than his first two seasons
- 2:43combined, ten tackles for loss, more than his first two seasons combined three
- 2:47sacks on the year, and he is just you know, first of all,
- 2:52he is sort of a beloved figure among Ohio State fans. But if
- 2:55you can bring back a really solid run stopper hole plugger in the middle of
- 3:00that line and you campair him with Ty Hamilton and then you've also got Taiwan
- 3:06Malone and Hero Canoe and Cayden McDonald and all the rest of the guys in
- 3:09the interior the defensive line, that feels like that's that's a spot where that's
- 3:15that's an area where I guess a lot of the national championship caliber teams.
- 3:19It's always seems to be a strength of the national championship caliber teams, and
- 3:23that feels like that would be a strength for Ohio State going into twenty twenty
- 3:25four, which is, you know, probably a good thing. And it
- 3:30also helps bringing all these guys back when Ohio State obviously missed its number and
- 3:35recruiting this year for defensive lineman, you know, whether it's edge or tackle,
- 3:39they missed both numbers. So being able to keep guys back, We've
- 3:44always talked in the past that being able to bring a fourth year, fifth
- 3:49year player back at a positions like getting a six star recruit because physical development.
- 3:53He's a twenty one year old, twenty two year old man at that
- 3:57point. He's not a seventeen year old kid. He knows the system.
- 4:00I mean, all of these positive so being able to get Tyler Williams,
- 4:04who obviously is going to be playing in a contract year at this point,
- 4:10so it is you know, this is the tape that is going to be
- 4:13the most relevant for him. These are the weight checks that are going to
- 4:16be the most relevant for him, So you know, it's easy to come
- 4:21in. I mean he even admitted that, you know, have because of
- 4:25the COVID season and everything else, he was out of shape early in his
- 4:29career. And he's not going to be some guy who's going to be all
- 4:32rocked up. That's just not you know, your dtackles generally aren't Charles Atlas.
- 4:38But you've got to have the development, you've got to have the stamina,
- 4:42and I think Tyler Williams has done a lot of things to get in
- 4:44the right direction, and I think a guy who knows that he's in his
- 4:46contract year, it's just going to be all the better. You mentioned him
- 4:50in the context of being like a six star recruit. Imagine how excited Ohio
- 4:55State fans would be if they landed a defensive tackle in the portal with fifty
- 5:00tackles and ten tackles for loss last season. That would be the most exciting
- 5:03thing in the world. They basically did by not losing Tyler Williams of the
- 5:08NFL. So that is one piece of very good news. Earlier in the
- 5:11week, the Buckeyes got a less good piece of news, and that was
- 5:15when fellow defensive tackle Mike Hall announced it he was leaving for the NFL Draft.
- 5:18That was not a big surprise. He was someone who had been sort
- 5:20of widely reported was very likely to be departing, and he's leaving off of
- 5:26it not the platform year you would have liked. Twenty four tackles, two
- 5:30tackles for loss, a sack and a half. It's going to be impossible
- 5:33for him to live up to the two and a half sacks and seven snaps
- 5:39that he had against Michigan State last year and some of the big plays he
- 5:42made against Notre Dame last year. But that's that's one spot where, boy,
- 5:47it was you were almost certainly not going to get everyone back, but
- 5:50it hurt. It's gonna hurt a little bit to lose my hall next season.
- 5:55Yeah, I mean cause I think that when you, as I bought
- 5:57my camera, you look out there and you would see fifty one and ninety
- 6:01one out there lined up together. You kind of knew what you were getting.
- 6:04There wasn't a lot of unknown. And when you sit there and you
- 6:09lose my call, it does hurt, you do. I mean, because
- 6:13again, we talked about six star guys. He would be a guy that
- 6:15certainly had that potential in terms of being a multi year starter and everything else.
- 6:20But remember he's a guy who's battled some injuries, and I don't know
- 6:26if another year back necessarily would have changed things significantly for him. I think,
- 6:31yeah, maybe he could move up a little bit, Maybe you could
- 6:33move down a little bit. Nil is all well and good, but the
- 6:38car dealerships want defensive ends and quarterbacks and wide receivers and guys like that.
- 6:42Sometimes the big uglies don't get as much in terms of the way of the
- 6:45NIL. So I understand the decision to get move in on there. I
- 6:49mean, his injury past isn't going to suddenly clear up. He's not going
- 6:55to suddenly have clean mriyes or whatever just because he waits a year, and
- 7:00fans really want everybody to come back, even even on guys unlike all that
- 7:04are non non contributors. It's like, I think it's in his best mind
- 7:08that he comes back. No, it's in your best mind that he comes
- 7:11back to what his decision is, his own decision. You want him back,
- 7:14but he may not need to come back, and you know his history
- 7:18will be the ultimate judge. And now we're waiting on the two defensive ends
- 7:24to make their decisions. Jack Sawyer, j T. Twoey Moloau. Both
- 7:28of those guys had very solid seasons this year. Sawyer finished with three sacks
- 7:32in the Cotton Bowl against Missouri, finishing with six and a half sacks to
- 7:35lead the team for the second straight year. J T. Twe moloaw five
- 7:40sacks. That's a career high for him. Sawyer after the game, listening
- 7:45to him talk about it, it sure seemed like he was leaning towards coming
- 7:48back, and it sure seemed like he was sort of hinting that there were
- 7:54going to be a whole bunch of guys who decided to come back and run
- 7:56it back for one more year because they were not real happy with the way
- 8:00things ended in twenty twenty three. How first of all, what are you
- 8:05expecting from those two? Gun to your head right now? What are you
- 8:07expecting from those two and number two? How big would it be if both
- 8:11of them do come back and you have three quarters your defensive line back in
- 8:13twenty twenty four? Certainly don't ever want to have a gun to my head.
- 8:18So I'll give you an answer, Please, sir, don't shoot.
- 8:22I think they're both coming back. To be honest, I think Sawyer was
- 8:26the one that seemed to be the more obvious answer, even though he blew
- 8:31up in that Missouri game. He had, you know, played the game
- 8:33of his Ohio State career, tuym molo aw. I mean when he plays
- 8:37Penn State goes off. I mean, you know, still has games where
- 8:39he's really on and other games where he's not as impactful in terms of just
- 8:43production numbers. But he's also held more than anything than a newborn baby.
- 8:50I mean, he is held all the damn time. How big would this
- 8:52be? Would be huge? It would be huge because once again, you
- 8:58look at what's in the pipeline and Ohio State, it has still you know,
- 9:01got some young guys Kenyata Jackson's of the world and guys like that.
- 9:03I mean, you know, when when is it going to be the chance
- 9:05for Kayden Curry to finally step up and see meaningful playing time. But then
- 9:09again, you look and they're only bringing in one true freshman defensive end at
- 9:13this point in Edric Houston, and he's really darn good, but he's also
- 9:18really darn young. So bringing back a couple of veterans like that, I
- 9:22think is huge. You especially look at Ohio State has kind of done it
- 9:26both ways in terms of it has rotated a lot of alignemen, and you
- 9:31know, and people, oh, I wish our best guy's played more.
- 9:35It is kind of ridden with the horses that have got them there. Oh
- 9:37I wish they'd rotate more. So I guess there's no real true answer when
- 9:41it comes to that, but the reality is getting guys like that back is
- 9:45going to be huge, especially when you look at a team that is still
- 9:50going to be looking for its offensive identity after a twenty three season that always
- 9:56felt like it was not able to get into fourth and fifth gear, has
- 10:01lost its quarterback to Syracuse and everything else that's going on to that point.
- 10:05This is a team that going into the eighteen team Big ten is going to
- 10:11probably need to be led by its defense a little bit more out of the
- 10:16gate while its offense gets its footing, whether or not it is with Devin
- 10:20Brown or Lincoln Greenholtz or transfer quarterback or whatever whatever that may be, all
- 10:26right, And we're gonna have a separate episode where we talk about a potential
- 10:28transfer quarterback who's visiting Ohio State this week. That'll be in the Buckeye Weekly
- 10:33podcast feats. You can look for that later. Just to and just before
- 10:37we wrap it up, I do want to just kind of clarify something that
- 10:39I think a lot of people have been confused about about the transfer portal.
- 10:43Is the transfer You know, there's been a letter of reporting the transfer portal
- 10:45closed on January TEWOD, So that's you know, everyone who's who is in
- 10:50the portal already who you know about? That's it right? Not so fast,
- 10:52my friend. So this is just just FYI in case people are confused
- 10:58about this. You could have Ohio State players entering their names in the transfer
- 11:03portal as late as eleven to fifty nine pm on January third, which is
- 11:09Wednesday, and even then they just have to have the paperwork in. They
- 11:13do not necessarily have to be publicly declared to be in the transfer portal,
- 11:16so we won't officially know as Ohio State lost anyone else in the portal until
- 11:22possibly a day or two after that deadline on January third. That's because the
- 11:26buck Eys played a bowl game on the twenty ninth of December, and you
- 11:28have the deadline was January second, unless you played a bowl game on or
- 11:33after January twenty ninth, in which case you have five days after that bowl
- 11:37game to ender your name. So Ohio State players have until the end of
- 11:41the day on December third, and it might even take a day or two
- 11:45for that paperwork to process, So you're all gonna have to hold your breath
- 11:50a little, you know, a day or two longer, just to make
- 11:52sure they haven't lost anyone else in the portal. But that's where things stand
- 11:56out as of right now. We'll make sure we keep the updated tomorrow's episode
- 12:01as well of Buckeyes. Tomorrow morning, we'll have a Buckeye Weekly episode for
- 12:03you as well, talking about some of the existing drama and changes and transactions
- 12:07in the transfer portal. Couple top targets visiting Ohio State this week, a
- 12:11couple former buck Eyes have found new homes. You can find that on the
- 12:15Buckeye Weekly podcast speed or of course on our YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash
- 12:20Buckeye Huddle, and of course Kevin and Mark are down at that All American
- 12:22game down in San Antonio, franking out a ton of great content. There
- 12:26are lots of future buck Eyes there, including Yes, Jeremiah Smith, James
- 12:31Peoples, Ian Moore, many others you can find in some of the just
- 12:35some of the top prospects in the whole country. Lots of great content coming
- 12:39out of there as well, so make sure you check out all their stuff
- 12:41on our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com, slash bucke Huddle, and of
- 12:45course at Buckeye Huddle dot com. That will do it for today. Thank
- 12:48you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We will talk
- 12:50to you tomorrow.