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Geoff Schwartz previews the NFL Draft which starts Thursday, Reaction to latest rumors about Fano and Lomu + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz is kind enough to stop by on NFL
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  Speaker 1: Draft week as we talk about the wrapping up spring
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  Speaker 1: football not only for the Uthes but in most places
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  Speaker 1: around the country, and of course an upcoming NFL draft.
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Welcome to the show. How are you fa
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  Speaker 3: are you there?
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  Speaker 2: You got me? I want to go to the Funnel
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  Speaker 2: Cake Festival.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, You and the family are welcome. I
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  Speaker 1: our station.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I could swing paying for a funnel Cake
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  Speaker 2: Festival ticket. But nonetheless, if I can, I know I could,
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  Speaker 2: I could. I know you got my back on that one.
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  Speaker 2: That that's a that's a dangerous festival for me. That'd
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  Speaker 2: be a after the gym the next day type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I love me some funnel cakes, so we would just
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  Speaker 1: indulge together, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: After my brother won the Super Bowl, I was at
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs the party, which I realize now it's just
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  Speaker 2: for a family party. All the players, like Mitch with
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  Speaker 2: the Bett He's like, I'm tired. I'm like, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: So we stayed in. You know, Pitbull perform. It was awesome,
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  Speaker 2: but they had funnel cake fries. Yes, it's like three
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  Speaker 2: thirty in the morning after an hour and a half
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  Speaker 2: pit Bull concert. On the honest day of my entire life,
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  Speaker 2: I was eating. I was eating funnel cake fries with
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  Speaker 2: Meredith at three thirty in the morning at like the
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  Speaker 2: North Miami Marriott. After Rick Ross no flow Rider and
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  Speaker 2: and and and and pit Bull performed for the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: friends and family. Just a statement words together funnel cake, fries,
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  Speaker 2: pit Bull, flow Rider together all together. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was flow Rider. My name is Rick Ross is one
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  Speaker 2: of the two that were that performed for the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: friends and family.
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  Speaker 1: Could not be a better combination funnel cake, fries and
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  Speaker 1: no chance.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I've wondered. I know you have me
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  Speaker 2: on to talk about other things. Okay, every super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: right has has a performer for the Super Bowl party? Right?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that the winning the teams decide, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: here's the one performer or two. You get it if
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  Speaker 2: we win, and if we lose, get something else, because
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  Speaker 2: like you imagine if the Chiefs lost and pit Bull's
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  Speaker 2: performing for an hour and a half, that'd be miserable, right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: do you think that the Niners and Chiefs that super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl just decided. Okay, pit Bull's gonna perform for whoever wins,
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  Speaker 2: and he just goes that hotel and performs for that
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  Speaker 2: for that team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, the team the losing team doesn't have a performer, right, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think they I think they do, but I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's like pit Bull. I think it's it'd be the.
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  Speaker 3: Worst whoever is.
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  Speaker 1: You lose the Super Bowl, you may never pass this
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  Speaker 1: way again in your career, Like it could be the
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  Speaker 1: end of a dream. Maybe you're retiring and then they're
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  Speaker 1: just like, all right, everybody give it up for pit Bull.
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  Speaker 3: You'd be like, mister Worldwide, I don't love you right now.
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  Speaker 2: I do like I do remember that Super bowls. I
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  Speaker 2: think Joe Stanley retiring after that game, and I remembine
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  Speaker 2: like walking off the field being like, oh well now
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  Speaker 2: I got to go pit Bull concert. That would be miserable.
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  Speaker 2: But but but again, the party was for the friends
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  Speaker 2: and family. There were like four Chiefs players there. They
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  Speaker 2: all went to live and my brother was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to bed at one thirty, like it just it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't for the players. There were friends and family which
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  Speaker 2: probably don't feel quite as dejected as the players do.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, but again, Pitbull uh and Funnel cack Fries,
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  Speaker 2: what a night?
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  Speaker 3: All right? The draft is coming up?
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  Speaker 1: And this I asked Spencer Fono this the other day
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  Speaker 1: when I saw him at Utah practice, like how he feels.
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  Speaker 3: And this was ten days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Probably how it felt to be kind of in this
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  Speaker 1: weird yeah waiting limbo, you know, and he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he gave a good answer. He's just like, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been waiting twenty one years, so this is not
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  Speaker 1: that big of a deal. But that's a first round pick.
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  Speaker 1: That's a guy who knows that after the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of days he's going to be, you know, a millionaire.
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  Speaker 1: Well he already is, but whatever. You were not one
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  Speaker 1: of those first round pick type guys. And the vast
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  Speaker 1: majority of people who do get a phone call this
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  Speaker 1: weekend are not seeing their names on ESPN in the
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  Speaker 1: you know, top twenty five or whatever. So what is
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  Speaker 1: the waiting like when you're a guy who's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I hope I get a call on day two.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll get a call on day three. I hope
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  Speaker 3: I get a call at all.
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  Speaker 1: In these it's now fifty ish hours away from the draft.
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  Speaker 1: What is the weight like for the average future NFL player?
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  Speaker 2: Also, do not have millions of dollars of ANHL money? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as well, it's a lot of you know, as much
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  Speaker 2: as players don'tt admit, it's a lot of just like
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  Speaker 2: reading stuff and like hope, hoping that like you know, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's you know, this guy has me ranked here, this
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  Speaker 2: guy's be ranked there. What are the rumors going on
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  Speaker 2: about who's taking who? You know? Looks sort of like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I spent out with with my friends and family,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, there's a little bit of freedom, like
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  Speaker 2: knowing you're not gonna be picked early, right, so the
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  Speaker 2: first couple of rounds you can kind of enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like that, there's a little freedom in that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just you know, anxiousness, right, You're waiting for
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  Speaker 2: your next your next move, your next life decision, all
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  Speaker 2: the work you put in over the years to get
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  Speaker 2: for this moment, you're just waiting for it to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So all those sort of emotions are part of it.
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  Speaker 1: So we've talked about Fano, We've talked about Lomo, We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about all these guys who are projected at the top,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, these individuals that are going to go
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  Speaker 1: even ahead of them. And we keep seeing the mock
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  Speaker 1: drafts and the and the big boards and the best
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  Speaker 1: player available. How many teams are are drafting based on
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  Speaker 1: positional need versus best player available? When we when we
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  Speaker 1: discuss the first round.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think most are doing best player available.
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  Speaker 2: They sometimes might be the same player because I look,
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  Speaker 2: you can't let's say you're the Giants, right and the
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  Speaker 2: best player available on your board as a as a
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  Speaker 2: defensive end at five, you don't need a defensive end.
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  Speaker 2: You need a linebacker, either wide receiver. You need the
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  Speaker 2: safety like so you got to follow your board as
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  Speaker 2: far as just I think the process of getting ready
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  Speaker 2: for the draft, but in the end you still got
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  Speaker 2: a draft. I think players that you need in the
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  Speaker 2: top ten. You know, if you're pick twenty four, okay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe your BPA right, your best player available. You have
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  Speaker 2: many different you know, many different options, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that they have to sort of earn the draft, have
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  Speaker 2: to match up right between Okay, we need this player,
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  Speaker 2: this is what's gonna call. You know, this is what
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  Speaker 2: we need. He's high enough. I don't think you reach
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  Speaker 2: for players, right, but if you have sort of two
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  Speaker 2: players grated similarly, you take the player you sort of
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  Speaker 2: need for your roster. But also you have to think
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  Speaker 2: about the rest of the draft. There are the law
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  Speaker 2: of teams this year with multiple first round picks. Dallas,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants the Chiefs, the Jets, the brown So you
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  Speaker 2: might draft something a little bit different knowing that you
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  Speaker 2: might have a different player later, if that makes sense right.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about like what the Giants
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  Speaker 2: to do at five, right, and it seems more likely
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  Speaker 2: that it at there will be a wide receiver to
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  Speaker 2: take right Tate or Tyson or someone rather than styles
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  Speaker 2: or downs right like there'll be most. So maybe you
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  Speaker 2: have a wide receiver rated slightly the same as as downs,
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  Speaker 2: but you won't find another down to this draft, So
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  Speaker 2: you take downs at five, you take the wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: at ten. So those things are all in consideration when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to making these picks. But I think most
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  Speaker 2: teams Sean would luck to stick to their boards. They
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  Speaker 2: spent hours and months and a lot of time making
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  Speaker 2: those boards up.
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  Speaker 1: You just alluded to the Giants having multiple picks, and
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  Speaker 1: the reason they have multiple picks is because they traded
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  Speaker 1: their best interior defensive lineman and the Cincinnati Bengals gave
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  Speaker 1: them back that number ten pick.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like that trade?
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  Speaker 2: I think the first I dent' for the Bengals, And
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  Speaker 2: the more thing about it, it probably makes a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of sense, right, you're just not gonna get that
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  Speaker 2: type of player early in the draft. Right, Lawrence is
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  Speaker 2: one to one. There is no one like him at
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  Speaker 2: that position. Head, he's a nose tackle, he unts up
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  Speaker 2: on the center, and there's no one like him in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. And you didn't pay him the time they
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  Speaker 2: got a one year extension for twenty seven million. The
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  Speaker 2: question becomes, obviously, if he plays well this season, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna want more money. The Bengals, the tourists, he don't
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  Speaker 2: pay anybody, right, so you kind of might be a
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  Speaker 2: situation where you're your your your star players are happy again.
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  Speaker 2: The tenth pick on the draft, clearly they didn't love,
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  Speaker 2: which he feels like this draft, and so that that
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  Speaker 2: made a little bit of sense there love this For
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  Speaker 2: the Giants. They have a new coach, John Harbaugh, who
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  Speaker 2: did not doesn't know Dexter Lawrence. So when you come
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  Speaker 2: to his off and say, hey, man, I want more money,
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  Speaker 2: he goes, well, i've never seen you play for me.
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  Speaker 2: I might giving you more money. Yet, you know, right,
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  Speaker 2: charad like, there's almost no point in doing that with
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  Speaker 2: a new coach in GM. So I think it makes
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  Speaker 2: sense the way they the way they handle this and
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  Speaker 2: they got the tenth pick in the draft for for
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  Speaker 2: a nose tackle. Man tenth pick on the draft for
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  Speaker 2: a nose tackle.
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  Speaker 1: Soul could be a win win, right, because we always
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  Speaker 1: do this with trades. Well, the Giants won the trade
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  Speaker 1: because they got the tenth pick for a nose tackle.
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  Speaker 1: The Cincinnati won this trade because he was the missing
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  Speaker 1: piece for a defense that created no pressure and that
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  Speaker 1: nobody scared with their defensive line even with Trey Hendrickson.
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  Speaker 3: So is this a potential win win?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Every time we talk about win win, it brings
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  Speaker 2: me to the office where Michael Hoo does a win
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  Speaker 2: win win, like this whole thing about it. It's just incredible,
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  Speaker 2: Like five minutes for him and Angela and I think
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  Speaker 2: an Oscar and Pam are going over like win lost scenarios.
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  Speaker 2: He's like the classic win win win situation. It's just great.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: What a show. My son wants to watch it. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, he wants to watch The Office. Should I
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  Speaker 2: let him? Eleven and a half.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like there's not a ton of crude humor
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  Speaker 3: in the office.
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  Speaker 2: You just won't get it. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the stuff that they're not super obvious about the
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my thought is is I skip the first couple
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  Speaker 2: of seasons because they're slow and I know his brain
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  Speaker 2: won't like they won't appreciate that, and then just go
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  Speaker 2: to season three that where it kind of starts like
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  Speaker 2: there's really not much he needs to know. The season
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  Speaker 2: three introduces Andy and Karen, Like, it feels like I
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  Speaker 2: could start kind of start there a little bit. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: it feels right, it feels right if this this does
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  Speaker 2: fuck a win win. But the Bengals, man, their win
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  Speaker 2: is like Game two Super Bowl. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: see that happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the the calculus for them, the
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  Speaker 1: pressure on them is a little bit different because they
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  Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow right now. Yeact, I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is quite viewed in that same window as
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is just yet.
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  Speaker 2: But you gets some really But the thing is, you
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  Speaker 2: get some really good players at five and ten, like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a great haul for them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the Giants, so I don't want good
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  Speaker 1: things to happen to the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: I just I never liked him, never been a Giants guy.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting or the Jets. Maybe it's like New York team
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  Speaker 1: I thought because I played on that. No, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that they paid you money.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like you.
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  Speaker 2: You want a lot of them in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: You should love New York City.
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  Speaker 3: I don't dislike the city all theme. I do dislike this.
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  Speaker 1: My forty nine ers got the impasse they were stuck
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  Speaker 1: at with Trent Williams. They got over a two year
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  Speaker 1: extension for fifty million dollars. Uh, he's not a spring
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  Speaker 1: chicken anymore. Was that a good number for Trent Williams?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you want Trent Williams made in his career, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, or like you know, projected to make so much.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like four hundred million dollars. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: with a new deal.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna look it up right now while you it's
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  Speaker 3: insane phil a buster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, was a philibuster with my almost geting injected story
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  Speaker 2: from from the lot.
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  Speaker 3: We need to correct you here.
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  Speaker 1: Trent Williams total career earning so far two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: My buddy said, was two people separately text me those
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  Speaker 2: four hundred million.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unless he had top secret contracts that spot Track
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  Speaker 1: didn't know about.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't me like that, like, I think, what my
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  Speaker 2: buddy do text me that it was like forty million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Now because Kirk Cousins is going to pass Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know that, Yes, with like with like three hundred million.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so Trent doesn't have more than that. I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't think so, No, he would be.
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  Speaker 2: But but the thing about it is that is that
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  Speaker 2: you pass these guys. It's not really about how good
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  Speaker 2: or bad you are, just at the time when you
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  Speaker 2: get paid. Right, So guys get paid now more than
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  Speaker 2: they got paid, you know, years ago.
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  Speaker 1: So the the highest paid in history so far. Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Stafford is sitting at four hundred and eight million, Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers three hundred and ninety four, Tom Brady three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty two, Kirk Cousins three hundred and twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: They lied to me. That's not good. Spread spread the information.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna text those guys unfair. You should yell at him,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, you can yell him in the summer.
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  Speaker 1: Trent Williams is the highest paid non quarterback in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: According to their private jet money.
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  Speaker 1: And he's got more than Derek Carr's got more than
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, Alex Smith, Lamar Jackson, Joe Flacco, Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 2: I think you I think I think you had to
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  Speaker 2: You had to pay him, right, I mean, he's such
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  Speaker 2: a good football player. What are you gonna do without
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  Speaker 2: Tret Williams, Right, that's just it's just well.
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  Speaker 1: I think the option would be that you try to
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  Speaker 1: draft like Caleb Lomo and try to plug him into
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  Speaker 1: play right away at left tackle in the league, which
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that that's what people want
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  Speaker 1: to do with a guy like him.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think Lomu is ready to do that
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  Speaker 2: quite yet. And also just like not, you're not. It's
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  Speaker 2: not a wonderful one replacement obviously, right. I do think Lomu,
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  Speaker 2: if he's there, the Niners are taking him though, that's
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  Speaker 2: what seems to be like the path they're going to
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  Speaker 2: go there, And I think one would be good pro
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  Speaker 2: but it's just not a one for one. You're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna replacement Williams obviously, right, But you're still to win
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  Speaker 2: now mode you might as well. You have a patron
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  Speaker 2: Williams just have to do it.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. You got to do it. I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: they did it.
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  Speaker 1: Which team you talked about several with multiple picks, Who
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  Speaker 1: do you think has the right GM in place, the
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  Speaker 1: right coach in place, the right you know veterans already
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  Speaker 1: on the roster. Which team in the NFL takes the
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  Speaker 1: biggest forward leap based on just the draft when it's
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  Speaker 1: all said and done next weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the easiest answer is the Raiders, right, because
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  Speaker 2: they get the quarterback. I don't think that there's another
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  Speaker 2: team that, like you look in and say this one
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  Speaker 2: draft pick on Thursday makes us exponentially better. Right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the Giants get downs and Tate downs and Tyson like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not like, give him an extra win this season? Right,
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  Speaker 2: Mendoza clearly? Right, clearly, you know there are four wins
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: lost everything there was three wins. They could go plus four, right,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: plus five in year one. It's got to be Mendoza, right,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: And that's the only correct answer.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Well, see, I mean we've talked about him, and I
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: think he's a good player. I keep I'm very impressed
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: with the way he interviews and stuff. But you're the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: one who's been in the NFL locker rooms, and you said,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and other people have said the same thing that if
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you're not winning, that boy scout thing might wear on
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: some of the teammates.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it's fine when you when you win.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Everyone Indiana loved them, right, everything I've got about that,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but also told the persone was like, you're sixteen oh
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I love everyone was sixteen oh two, right, Like that's
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: a big thing. Did you see Indiana d coordinator, by
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the way, get into it like on Twitter?
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that. I think it's funny.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I think he got really triggered for over nothing over
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: like tysoms and be like, yeah, they really can't start,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: butch doing nothing really difficult. I don't know. I feel
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: like that's like a major, Like a major like that
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: has been a callbas you're going to get like, I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: don't know, I thought that was a little aggressive.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: No, I mean pro when it's such an outlier, because
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: most of the time all we get is coach speak
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: from coaches. So when any of them do anything else,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's fun. What's this guy's deal? Such a
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: wild Card's fair?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: That's fair? How was uta springing practice this year. Howd
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to go?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, we got a little bit more observation, which
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: was great. And to me, I know, this is like
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit. I think that there's so much
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: weight and see, because you've got to replace five starters
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line and you've got some questions on
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, and teams don't do a lot if
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you're not good in either of those places, so they've
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: got to be really good there. Utah has traditionally had
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a really powerful defensive back field as well, and that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: something that's a little bit up in the air. Although
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I like the guys that they have brought in. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like the length of that group in particular, and I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: love Sharif Shaw's a developer. But there's just I mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: there's so many questions, Like, there's so many well does
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: it really gel as well with these guys doing this?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's a wait and see. The schedule
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: works in Utah's favor next year, even if they're not
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: as good as they were last year. I think they
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: can have a super solid record in Morgan's first year.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: But I feel like sometimes it's my job to get
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: everyone all excited and gassed up because we're here on
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the home of the youths. But I also feel like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the correct thing to do is to tell the truth
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and say there's a lot of wait and see happening here.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I think I rubbed off on you pretty well with
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that wait and see answer. I don't like that not
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: get too excited for something before it actually before it
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: actually happens. I feel like I did my job here
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: with you or Utah Football.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Well, it's partially because of your influence on I always
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: knew how important an offensive line was, but I learned
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: a lot more about like the particulars of offensive line
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: doing shows with you and that group is is a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: five starters to replace?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember the last time.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I've ever seen a Utah
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: team that replaced five starters eight seven seven three five
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: three zero seven hundred. If you can remember a time
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: between now, in the late nineties, when I really started
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: playing super close attention to the utes, they had to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: replace all five starters in a single year, I don't
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: remember a single one.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That's a lot. That is a lot, you know, But
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: when you're not at this agent with your daughters, iman
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: just walked into my office. I towed two minutes. She
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: rolled her eyes at me in disappointment and left. I
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: don't know what she wants. I'm testing it's food because
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: also my parents are here and my wife is here,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: so there's like three other adults that make her food.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And she had come up here roll her eyes at me.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I'm off here quick enough to make her a grilled
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: cheese sandwich.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, wait to let me tell you what my
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: daughter did to me yesterday. Okay, she had her first
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: T ball game of the year.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Uh what on the of April?
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: We it's snows out here, dude.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Emmy has only three games left this season.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you live in the South.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: We live in a high desert in the mountains.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And last if I bring her out there for a weekend,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: can she get a couple of games in like in
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: like in mid June.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why am not? So they're playing, they're playing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: They're playing their first game of T ball, right and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they put her on the pitcher's mound and every hit
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was going straight to her and she was killing it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: She was doing awesome, fielding every ball in the glove
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the first attempt. I was so impressed. I was amazed.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: The throwing to first base is something else. We got
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to work on that. But I was so I'm cheering
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for her loud on purpose, being obnoxious, right, and she's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: getting embarrassed.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: She's getting embarrassed.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So she's like, Dad, stop and she's giving me the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like the fingers to the lips, the shush right, And
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: so I keep doing it. Then I realized that actually
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: is bothering her, so I stopped doing it. And then
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the next inning she goes and stands on the mound again,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and I could tell the coaches had no backbone to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: be like, no, we want someone else to do this.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So I was like, hey, go stand at third base instead.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm not a coach, but I was like, oh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you go to third base because I could tell the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: coaches wanted to put someone else on the mound. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: she looked at me and she just ignored me. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: she looked at me and made eye contact. Okay, And
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I was like wait a second. And then she told
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: me after the game, she was like, do you know
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: why I didn't listen to you? I said bye, She said,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: because you embarrassed me. I was like what, Wow? Vindictive?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Was like I mean the other team had already hit
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in between, or that they had come back in to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: hit in between. So like she was thinking about how
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I had wronged her for at least five or ten
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: minutes and then decided that she was gonna get back
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: at me.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: How do your coaches not have the stones to tell
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: six year olds exactly to go play different positions?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Exactly?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Do you mean times get asked her in a game
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: from my girls or the nine and ten, like can
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I play somewhere? It's like no, quite short, No, you
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: can't go play third, No play in the infield. We
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: we're trying to win. Like that's I have two lineups
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I have we're trying to win. Lineup and okay we're
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: aheader behind. We can't come back. Okay, you can play
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: this position lineup and I it's six. That that's wild, dude.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy what you almost got ejected from
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: a game.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've been this case for many years about officiating, right,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: is that basically objective call? Subjective calls right, like balls strike,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: someone's out or safe? Like you're gonna mess this up there?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: There's errors, right, you know you holding call past interference
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like those are gonna happen procedural problems and we talked
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: about for years with with packed officiating, Like you can't
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: have procedural problems, right. You can't like kno, get the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: clock correct right you you can't like give an extra
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: time out, like you can't. You just can't do those
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: type of things right. And this is a procedural mistake
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that the umpire made. And I just asked her, I'm like, what,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: why didn't you just do the thing you're supposed to do?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I didn't want Basically, was like I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: didn't want to and I was like, well, that's not
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: really the right answer, and then I turned my back
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and walked away. I think I sent to the video
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and she sort of like followed me up the third
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: base line to talk to me more. Yeah, like that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: not that's not appropriate. I was done. I was done talking.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And then you see like waving her hand at me.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: That was her telling me like, don't say another word. Essentially,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't you came back to me. I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: was done talking. You followed me back up the third baseline.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I wish I could share the video with everyone because
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: it's like someone who is half your height.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And she's nice. Markt's nice, that's her name. She's not.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: We have like the same four umpires for years now.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Marcu's no problem with Marker. But she made she made
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it bad. It was a bad She made a bad call.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: A procedural that the girl should have been. You get
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: one base on a pitched ball that is not put
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: in play, right, so a ball that is just pitched
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the pass ball, you can steal whoever you want. You
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: at one base. If you take a second base, it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: at your own peril. But if you reach that base safe,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they just called time and said you back to the
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: base you were at. Okay. Our girls stole second base.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: They threw the second base, the ball got by her.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: She ran the thirdness to instinctually, I said, you can
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: see him on the video. Tell her to stop and
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: say it a second. She doesn't do it. She runs
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the third base. The umpire then let the play continue.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: The second base was holding the ball like as it
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: play dead. She goes, no, we're we're playing this live.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: She then tags my girl who's on third base, and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: she calls her out. M hm, so I had to.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I had to stand up for my team.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I understand. I want to next time. I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: want to see you get ejected. That would be much
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: better material for the internet.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't. That's a that's pretty bad. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I can't. I think I cannot get objected from a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: ten yu softball game. I'm sorry. I could do a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: lot of things in life. That's one of them.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: We're like, and that's a red flag if that.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: We're getting so much better too, like we're getting better.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: We won three in a row now like we're having
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a maybe four in a row. We're having like a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: good time, like where the girls are getting better, Like
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it's been a lot of fun. But I can't get
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: eject it from the game. That's out and stopped. Cannot
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Fine, Well, thanks for your time.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your perspective as always, and we'll see you soon.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You're coming to my birthday, right, that's the plan. Let's go.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I can't. That's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I might have to bring my brother, my younger brother,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: my special needs brother, because I think my parents are
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: he's staying with us that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Week, but we have we have I think we have
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: enough tickets.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: That makes him a lot.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: He makes it a lot more interesting, but we'll we'll,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we'll chat offline about that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: We'll be fine, I think, all right, but all right,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: but I talk to you later, but later.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz college football and NFL insider, former draft pick
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: himself