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- 0:00Speaker 1: This isn't a surprise. It's a surprise that it's happened
- 0:02Speaker 1: this quickly. But Brandon Hyde is not the problem, much
- 0:05Speaker 1: like Bud Black wasn't the problem, much like Dirk shuldn
- 0:07Speaker 1: won the problem.
- 0:13Speaker 2: A lot of news this weekend, A lot of news
- 0:17Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll get to it in just a sec. AJ,
- 0:19Speaker 2: how was your weekend? How's your travels?
- 0:22Speaker 1: I was home this weekend, so I got'm easy. I
- 0:24Speaker 1: didn't do anything this weekend. I was home. My son
- 0:26Speaker 1: graduated from high school and we moved on.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Oh yeah, congratulations to Austin.
- 0:31Speaker 1: It was easy. It was easy weekend.
- 0:34Speaker 3: There you go.
- 0:35Speaker 2: You just sat home watching the first few innings of
- 0:38Speaker 2: the Orioles games because that's all you needed to watch, right.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Well, they were down seven to nothing pretty much every game,
- 0:43Speaker 1: so yeah, it was pretty easy.
- 0:47Speaker 2: We were texted at our group chat. We're like, and
- 0:49Speaker 2: they're down a ton early on again. I'll just reiterate
- 0:53Speaker 2: before we start actually know what crats, I'll just bring
- 0:57Speaker 2: it right into the conversation because I want to get
- 0:59Speaker 2: your take on how fun it is for an offense,
- 1:03Speaker 2: even though it's only a month and a half into
- 1:04Speaker 2: the season to be looking at the scoreboard like, oh
- 1:07Speaker 2: damn it again. We got a lot of work to
- 1:10Speaker 2: do today, boys. But let's get into it because there's
- 1:13Speaker 2: a coaching change. Let's charge them out. Brandon Hyde out,
- 1:22Speaker 2: Tony Manselino in as the interim manager. But there is
- 1:27Speaker 2: dysfunction at this point with the Orioles. This is turning
- 1:30Speaker 2: into a very bad team very quickly. AJ Since you
- 1:34Speaker 2: got to see the early blowouts, what were you observing
- 1:37Speaker 2: about this team and how screwed are they for the
- 1:40Speaker 2: rest of the season. We know this is a scapegoat.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Well they can't. They fall behind three, four or five
- 1:48Speaker 1: nothing in the first two innings every game. It's hard
- 1:50Speaker 1: to play like that. I don't care how good your
- 1:52Speaker 1: offense is supposed to be and how good it prospects
- 1:54Speaker 1: you have and how many this and that. So listen,
- 1:58Speaker 1: it's not Brandon Heights fall. It sucks that he got fired.
- 2:01Speaker 1: But I mean michaelas we talked about it, I mean
- 2:03Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neil was their big offseason edition. He's hurt. He's
- 2:06Speaker 1: always had a history of being hurt. That's the guy
- 2:08Speaker 1: you go and get. Why would you not spend that
- 2:09Speaker 1: money somewhere else?
- 2:10Speaker 4: There?
- 2:11Speaker 1: You know, if you have all these outfield prospects and
- 2:13Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo completely outfit, and Hirstad and Mullins and all
- 2:16Speaker 1: these other guys, I understand you need some right handed power,
- 2:19Speaker 1: but I think you could have made a different move
- 2:20Speaker 1: than that. And that's not a knock on Tyler O'Neal,
- 2:22Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think that this team is
- 2:25Speaker 1: in trouble. They're obviously, you know, they fire the manager,
- 2:28Speaker 1: they get then they go get smacked two games in
- 2:30Speaker 1: a row by the not So I just think this
- 2:32Speaker 1: is a bad It's a it's a culmination of a
- 2:35Speaker 1: lot of bad things all hitting him once and they
- 2:37Speaker 1: it just costs Brandon Hyde his job.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Everybody everybody looks at teams and they say, okay, well
- 2:44Speaker 4: they're not doing good or this player he's not doing good.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Will you send him down when they don't do good,
- 2:49Speaker 4: whether they're a good player or not. You can't do
- 2:52Speaker 4: that to a manager or a GM. A GM Michael
- 2:55Speaker 4: Lias put this team together and he gave them no
- 2:59Speaker 4: bad for If Grayson Rodriguez goes down, if in the
- 3:03Speaker 4: last two years, Tyler Wells goes down, if I'm forgetting
- 3:09Speaker 4: who else has gotten injured in their pitching staff, but
- 3:11Speaker 4: it gave them no backup. So what happens then is
- 3:15Speaker 4: you have to answer to that as a GM why
- 3:17Speaker 4: does this team not have enough depth? But for some
- 3:20Speaker 4: reason GM's don't get you know, they don't get treated
- 3:25Speaker 4: quite the same way, and the manager loses his job.
- 3:28Speaker 4: But from an offensive standpoint, you go, how are we
- 3:31Speaker 4: supposed to put together at bats? I'm a big league
- 3:33Speaker 4: team no matter who you're facing, unless it's the Rockies,
- 3:36Speaker 4: they give up a lot of runs anyway, how are
- 3:39Speaker 4: you supposed to put together at bats to come back
- 3:41Speaker 4: from down three in the seventh inning, down six in
- 3:44Speaker 4: the second inning? Like it's it's hard to do and scapegoats.
- 3:50Speaker 4: I don't know, it's it's tough to it's tough to
- 3:55Speaker 4: blame anybody but Michael Lias. But it's also somewhat on
- 3:59Speaker 4: the pitch that they have there, like you guys have
- 4:02Speaker 4: to step it up. But are they really together as
- 4:05Speaker 4: a group good enough?
- 4:08Speaker 3: But they made wrong moves.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I mean, for example, Charlie Moore in has looked like
- 4:16Speaker 2: this is going to be the end of the road
- 4:17Speaker 2: for him. Kyle Gibson was given four starts. He was
- 4:21Speaker 2: torpedoed back out of baseball for now, right, and that
- 4:26Speaker 2: was a late signing, which that's a whole nother story
- 4:29Speaker 2: within itself. Late pitcher signings have been a big problem
- 4:33Speaker 2: in our game for a while now, and if you're
- 4:35Speaker 2: not going to give a guy much of a chance,
- 4:37Speaker 2: then we've seen many trends where a guy gets called up,
- 4:41Speaker 2: you know, several weeks into the season and it's a mess.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Aja.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I don't know what the thought process was here for
- 4:47Speaker 2: the rotation. I'm sure that Michaelias anticipated that they would
- 4:51Speaker 2: be healthier, but they're not. Like Kratz mentioned, Bradish second half,
- 4:55Speaker 2: Grayson Rodriguez probably second half. They he did get Burns
- 5:00Speaker 2: last year, they lost him. Max Fried was a free agent.
- 5:04Speaker 2: They talked about how they made a good offer to Burns,
- 5:06Speaker 2: but it wasn't as high as the guaranteed money that
- 5:08Speaker 2: Arizona gave him, So you would have had to beat
- 5:10Speaker 2: that money if you're trying to win a guy over
- 5:12Speaker 2: who likes a location better. There were trade options, Hey Zuslizzardo,
- 5:17Speaker 2: Garrett Crochet, we all talked about this ad nauseum, right,
- 5:22Speaker 2: and even Ken Rosenthal said that executives he was talking
- 5:25Speaker 2: to around the league. It was like the worst kept secret.
- 5:28Speaker 2: The Orioles are going to be in trouble with their
- 5:30Speaker 2: rotation if there's one or two cracks.
- 5:33Speaker 3: So now, what is Tony Mansilino going to save the day?
- 5:36Speaker 2: And the Oriols are gonna make the playoffs most likely not?
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- 6:42Speaker 1: App They're going to continue to stay where they're at.
- 6:44Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care how hot they're hit or
- 6:46Speaker 1: if they can't pitch, they're not going to go anywhere,
- 6:48Speaker 1: especially in this division with the Yankees and the Blue
- 6:51Speaker 1: Jays and the Red Sox and even the Rays. And
- 6:53Speaker 1: if they can't pitch, it doesn't matter who the manager is.
- 6:56Speaker 1: And again that Brandon Hide doesn't throw the ball. Brandon
- 6:58Speaker 1: Hide didn't decide who his pitch is. All he can
- 7:00Speaker 1: do is roll with who he has. And he was
- 7:03Speaker 1: given a team that we talked about up and down,
- 7:07Speaker 1: up and down, that they just weren't gonna be the
- 7:09Speaker 1: pitching we were worried about. They knew bradish was out now,
- 7:11Speaker 1: they weren't counting on Grayson going down. But there's a
- 7:14Speaker 1: reason why Charlie Morton didn't get resigned where he was right,
- 7:17Speaker 1: there's a reason why, I mean, Sigano has been their
- 7:19Speaker 1: best pitcher and they didn't even know what they were
- 7:21Speaker 1: gonna get. He was a one year deal, but they
- 7:23Speaker 1: went out and didn't make trades for guys at Crochet
- 7:25Speaker 1: and all the guys we've mentioned. So this is just
- 7:28Speaker 1: an organizational failure. There's no other way. And then you know,
- 7:31Speaker 1: Jacob Calvin Meyer with this tweet about you know, it's
- 7:33Speaker 1: quite fitting. The first game is Kyle Gibson and Charlie
- 7:36Speaker 1: Morton the two best pitchers who best represent the failure
- 7:40Speaker 1: that was Michaelias's offseason. Yeah, and then Zach Eflin comes
- 7:44Speaker 1: back and gives up seven an inning and a third
- 7:46Speaker 1: or whatever it was. So it just hasn't worked. And
- 7:48Speaker 1: they trade stours and make the move for the guy
- 7:53Speaker 1: that's it was his name Rodgers and Tripaa. That's not pitching, right, Like,
- 7:56Speaker 1: why did they make that's the move? They went with
- 7:58Speaker 1: a guy because he was controllable, but the Marlins clearly
- 8:00Speaker 1: didn't wan him. The Marlins like, we stole this guy
- 8:03Speaker 1: from you. Also, it's just an organizational failure.
- 8:06Speaker 4: And we talked last week with Brett Boone and Max
- 8:10Speaker 4: Munsey having good hitting conversations. Hitting as a team is
- 8:18Speaker 4: it's hard to do. It's really hard to do when
- 8:21Speaker 4: a pitcher can deviate from what he's actually going to
- 8:24Speaker 4: do to you because he has a seven run game. AJA.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Maybe AJ doesn't agree with me, but you don't pitch
- 8:30Speaker 4: the same when you're winning by seven runs as you
- 8:34Speaker 4: do when it's a one run game. When your team
- 8:36Speaker 4: is close. You have a luxury of like, hey, you
- 8:39Speaker 4: know what, we can land this first pitch curveball that
- 8:41Speaker 4: the guy throws ten percent of the time and get
- 8:43Speaker 4: this guy off the pitches that we know are going
- 8:46Speaker 4: to get him out because we have a huge lead.
- 8:48Speaker 4: And you know what, we give up a home run here,
- 8:51Speaker 4: we're up by We're still up by six. And so
- 8:54Speaker 4: people say, oh, well, the defense, the pitching doesn't shouldn't
- 8:59Speaker 4: affect how the hitters hit. It does, especially when you
- 9:02Speaker 4: have young guys out there who are like, all right,
- 9:06Speaker 4: I got to hope hopefully this is the money ball.
- 9:08Speaker 4: I'm gona hit a six run homer here so we
- 9:10Speaker 4: can get back to tide. It's not even that they
- 9:13Speaker 4: were like going ahead. If they score a six run homer,
- 9:17Speaker 4: like they'd be tied. So it's it's it's permeating everything,
- 9:22Speaker 4: the decisions, the fact that they couldn't lure Sunny Gray
- 9:25Speaker 4: over when he was going to be traded there. He
- 9:28Speaker 4: didn't want to go there whether they didn't make enough
- 9:30Speaker 4: of a push for it that they couldn't make the
- 9:33Speaker 4: push for Burns like you said, it was like they
- 9:35Speaker 4: went from option one the Burns annual AAV which would
- 9:40Speaker 4: have broken all records, to well, I just guess we
- 9:43Speaker 4: can't get anybody.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Now important piece of the puzzle Oriols payroll this year
- 9:49Speaker 2: versus last year AJA sixty six million dollars more this
- 9:54Speaker 2: year than last year. This is important for our show,
- 9:58Speaker 2: since we go wherever you want to go, right, know
- 10:00Speaker 2: that's not the case.
- 10:01Speaker 1: But where that money goes? The key where the money
- 10:03Speaker 1: I'm saying is they signed Tyler was a three year deal. Okay,
- 10:07Speaker 1: a three year deal. Nothing against tyler'nial, but he has
- 10:09Speaker 1: a long history of being injured. Oh sixteen, I outs Sigana, Right,
- 10:14Speaker 1: he's a one year deal, Charlie Morton, one year deal.
- 10:17Speaker 1: If you're going to spend sixty six million and make
- 10:19Speaker 1: it go up, I know there were some raises involved
- 10:21Speaker 1: in arbitration, guys, but you tell me you couldn't find
- 10:24Speaker 1: a quality picture for thirty million in there somewhere, like
- 10:28Speaker 1: a really good picture, like a Max Free I mean
- 10:30Speaker 1: he could. He would have looked nice there clearly didn't.
- 10:33Speaker 1: They didn't go after Corvin Burns. Now he wasn't gonna
- 10:35Speaker 1: stay because he wanted to go to Arizona. But there
- 10:38Speaker 1: was other guys, Crochet, like we've talked about, there was
- 10:40Speaker 1: other moves that could have been made. I just feel
- 10:43Speaker 1: like they're trying to do this on the cheap right now,
- 10:45Speaker 1: even though they're Yes, their payroll went up, but I
- 10:47Speaker 1: still feel like they're not fully invested. And again it's
- 10:50Speaker 1: organizational failure. It starts at the top.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Do you guys remember the year that the Angels spent
- 10:57Speaker 2: like forty million dollars on single season players, Cody Allen,
- 11:01Speaker 2: Matt Harvey. There was like three or four more, and
- 11:04Speaker 2: every single one I think was a zero or a
- 11:08Speaker 2: negative win player, right like a really a non factor
- 11:11Speaker 2: kind of player in terms of that particular season and
- 11:14Speaker 2: the production they were putting together. The pitchers had high eras,
- 11:17Speaker 2: the hitters really weren't hitting.
- 11:19Speaker 3: It was bad to me. We get shades of that
- 11:22Speaker 3: with the way that.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Michael Lias is operating right now. They're not looking for
- 11:27Speaker 2: franchise superstar players. I mean even Kratz, I know, you
- 11:30Speaker 2: like Gary Sanchez, I mean even that move right now,
- 11:34Speaker 2: Like I'm just adding up the money that they upped, right,
- 11:36Speaker 2: sixty six million dollars is a big, big up to
- 11:39Speaker 2: your payroll. I think it was the largest payroll increase
- 11:42Speaker 2: or maybe the Mets are in there. I don't know,
- 11:43Speaker 2: but it's up there, Okay in terms of a payroll increase.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Michael Oyas failed. This has to be on him.
- 11:51Speaker 2: We could play some blame on the owner too, because
- 11:52Speaker 2: we don't know what, you know, final offers look like
- 11:55Speaker 2: for players, But it does look like he was given
- 11:57Speaker 2: good leeway here. He was able to tank a team
- 12:00Speaker 2: for a five to six year span and did a
- 12:03Speaker 2: really nice job drafting players. But you have to be
- 12:06Speaker 2: able to supplement that and also the development of those
- 12:08Speaker 2: players has stalled too, right, Jordan Westburg's having down year,
- 12:11Speaker 2: ADLEI Rutchman's having now a down full year going back
- 12:16Speaker 2: to the second half of last year. I mean, it's
- 12:18Speaker 2: still not what you'd expect, right, Like, he's in the
- 12:22Speaker 2: ninety something ops plus, which is fine for a catcher,
- 12:25Speaker 2: but you expect him to be a star. Westburg was
- 12:27Speaker 2: an All Star last year. Gunnar Henderson's been good, not
- 12:30Speaker 2: MVP ish, and I know he had a late start
- 12:31Speaker 2: to the season.
- 12:32Speaker 3: It's just like, what are we doing here?
- 12:35Speaker 2: And do you give your GM a chance to make
- 12:38Speaker 2: up for it this offseason or do you say, hey,
- 12:41Speaker 2: I gave you all the pieces in the world to
- 12:43Speaker 2: tank this thing and then spend it back and then
- 12:45Speaker 2: have a contender and right in the thick of what
- 12:47Speaker 2: should be their winning window.
- 12:49Speaker 3: This is a terrible team right now.
- 12:52Speaker 4: All right? Well, two things. First of all, prospects. This
- 12:55Speaker 4: is just another example, and maybe I'm cherry picking. If
- 12:59Speaker 4: you have a chance to get an established veteran who
- 13:01Speaker 4: has had years of success in the big leagues, you
- 13:05Speaker 4: get rid of the prospect, no matter what you think
- 13:07Speaker 4: they're going to be. You trade the prospect because this
- 13:09Speaker 4: team is full of prospects and not everybody's hitting. Nobody
- 13:12Speaker 4: would have ever gotten rid of Gunner Henderson last year.
- 13:15Speaker 4: I get that He's not the guy you're getting rid of.
- 13:17Speaker 4: You're getting rid of other guys. The other piece is
- 13:22Speaker 4: how do you as an organization find value, Because your
- 13:27Speaker 4: value the rais they go out and they say, okay, this,
- 13:31Speaker 4: you know, our park plays really well, Tropic count of
- 13:34Speaker 4: field plays really well with four seam fastballs, So we're
- 13:37Speaker 4: gonna really work that compared to other parks, other places
- 13:42Speaker 4: where we play, We're gonna find guys that work into that.
- 13:45Speaker 4: What added value? What surplus value are the Orioles finding
- 13:50Speaker 4: in players? Besides, hey, we have all these prospects. They're
- 13:54Speaker 4: gonna come up and they're all gonna be Rookie of
- 13:56Speaker 4: the Year candidates, and we don't need any veteran. We
- 14:00Speaker 4: don't need any veteran like value. What kind of value
- 14:02Speaker 4: are they finding. They're not finding any value in Sigano.
- 14:06Speaker 4: They're not finding you know, hey, we got to really
- 14:08Speaker 4: push this in the pitching. So not only have they
- 14:10Speaker 4: missed on getting not getting rid of some of their
- 14:13Speaker 4: prospects to add in veterans besides Burns last year, but
- 14:17Speaker 4: they've also missed on the fact that they have to
- 14:20Speaker 4: go out, the organization has to go out and say, Okay,
- 14:22Speaker 4: you did this really well, we're gonna plug you into
- 14:25Speaker 4: this part of our team pitching, whatever it's hitting, fielding.
- 14:28Speaker 4: They're just going out there kind of Ramon Leiano, who's
- 14:32Speaker 4: a good player, but they already had outfield people that
- 14:36Speaker 4: could have could have put into spots.
- 14:40Speaker 2: And we are seeing, in my mind, teams that have
- 14:44Speaker 2: nothing else to do but find a scapegoat for now.
- 14:47Speaker 2: You can't just keep operating with what you have, and
- 14:51Speaker 2: you can't really make trades. No one makes trades for
- 14:53Speaker 2: the most part this time of year, so you're pretty
- 14:56Speaker 2: limited in terms of what you're able to do.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Let's show some quick history.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Here, Jason Stark pointing out how Skip Schumacher and Brandon
- 15:04Speaker 2: Hyde were Managers of the Year in twenty twenty three.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Eighteen months later, neither of them are managers twenty twenty
- 15:11Speaker 2: two Managers of the Year Bucks show Walter and Terry
- 15:13Speaker 2: Francona thirty months later, Buck's not managing.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Francona is not in Cleveland. Tough gig.
- 15:18Speaker 2: And then this one from Jesse Rodgers, I think is
- 15:21Speaker 2: really relevant to what's going on right now. Aja three
- 15:25Speaker 2: changes this season are the most before June since two
- 15:29Speaker 2: thousand and two. It's been a long time since we
- 15:32Speaker 2: saw that. Now we have some bad teams, and I
- 15:34Speaker 2: would put the other two teams in a different category.
- 15:37Speaker 2: But the Pirates and the Rockies letting go of their
- 15:39Speaker 2: managers for teams that I think, in all of our
- 15:42Speaker 2: minds were not contending teams. They just were so bad
- 15:45Speaker 2: that again they felt like they had to do something
- 15:48Speaker 2: just to get the public off their back. The Orioles
- 15:51Speaker 2: is a team obviously, even with their flaws heading into
- 15:54Speaker 2: the season that we didn't expect to be at this point.
- 15:56Speaker 2: But add it all up and we do see GMS
- 16:00Speaker 2: owners getting a little bit more trigger happy with something
- 16:03Speaker 2: that was quieting down.
- 16:04Speaker 3: We weren't seeing in season changes that frequently.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Well, no, but once the first one went, once Derek
- 16:10Speaker 1: Shelton went, then it was it was game on. We
- 16:12Speaker 1: talked about it with everybody. Once the first one goes,
- 16:16Speaker 1: it's game on. And once once Shelton went, and then
- 16:19Speaker 1: the Rocky's like, oh, that looked like a cool thing
- 16:21Speaker 1: to do. And then the Oriols. There's been heat on
- 16:23Speaker 1: Brandon Hyde since the beginning of the year after not
- 16:26Speaker 1: winning a playoff game the last two years, and so
- 16:28Speaker 1: he went into it. And then start there off to
- 16:30Speaker 1: listen what happens. First, the fire the coaches. What the
- 16:33Speaker 1: Oriols do this offseason. They fired a bunch of their coaches.
- 16:36Speaker 1: What comes next? The GM may fire himself. So the
- 16:39Speaker 1: GM's going to fire the manager and be like, oh,
- 16:40Speaker 1: we'll bring in this guy. Hopefully it turns around and
- 16:42Speaker 1: if not. I'll go to the owner and say, hey, man,
- 16:44Speaker 1: you know I got Brandon Hyde was here before me,
- 16:47Speaker 1: So I'll give me five more years to make this
- 16:50Speaker 1: right with my own guy.
- 16:51Speaker 4: Right.
- 16:51Speaker 1: That's how it works, That's what these guys do. So
- 16:53Speaker 1: this isn't a surprise. It's a surprise that it's happened
- 16:55Speaker 1: as quickly. But Brandon Hyde is not the problem, much
- 16:58Speaker 1: like Bud Black wasn't the problem. Much like Derek Showing won.
- 17:00Speaker 1: The problem starts at the top. It comes down to
- 17:03Speaker 1: the players got to play. And like Ozzie said, like
- 17:06Speaker 1: Ozzie Gian always said, good players play, bad players they hustle,
- 17:10Speaker 1: and right now the worlds are doing a lot of hustle.
- 17:14Speaker 2: Let's do a show a hands for a poll to
- 17:18Speaker 2: get us to break. Okay, raise your hand if you
- 17:21Speaker 2: think that Michael Lias should be running the Baltimore Orioles
- 17:26Speaker 2: going forward. If you're David Rubinstein, you're the owner of
- 17:28Speaker 2: the team took over about a year ago. You're trying
- 17:31Speaker 2: to bring a fresh breath of air to Baltimore after
- 17:34Speaker 2: what was a weird finish to their ownership group, the
- 17:37Speaker 2: previous ownership group. Raise your hand if you want Michael
- 17:41Speaker 2: Lias running the team moving forward.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Here's my question. I want to know if he can
- 17:49Speaker 1: do it because he's always been the prospect guy, right.
- 17:52Speaker 1: He's been the guy who could build a team in Houston.
- 17:55Speaker 1: He was the prospect we'll be get the prospects, we'll
- 17:57Speaker 1: do the draft, right. But he's never been able to
- 17:59Speaker 1: finish it off. He left they finish it off, right,
- 18:01Speaker 1: So can he finish it off? I don't know that
- 18:03Speaker 1: he knows how to do that. And that's that's what
- 18:05Speaker 1: we're finding out right now that apparently, as of right now,
- 18:08Speaker 1: he does not. So the answer to that, I mean,
- 18:10Speaker 1: I raised my hand just so I a talk, But
- 18:12Speaker 1: I don't know that he's the right answer.
- 18:14Speaker 2: You know how Dombrowski sometimes is that guy like you
- 18:17Speaker 2: almost want someone like him right now, where you're like,
- 18:19Speaker 2: I need the gunslinger who's going to get the big
- 18:21Speaker 2: names prospects.
- 18:24Speaker 1: No, you need the guy who will trade the prospects
- 18:25Speaker 1: to try to win.
- 18:26Speaker 4: Now.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Dombrowski say whatever you want about him. He gets his
- 18:28Speaker 1: teams to the postseason, and he gets them into the
- 18:31Speaker 1: chance to win the World Series. They might not always
- 18:32Speaker 1: win it, but he'll trade away assets because he's like, oh,
- 18:35Speaker 1: we can find another prospect, pitcher, we can find another
- 18:38Speaker 1: you know whatever. We can find another shortstop down the
- 18:41Speaker 1: road in the draft. Right, look at Aj Preller, that's
- 18:43Speaker 1: what he's doing. And they seem to keep finding prospects
- 18:45Speaker 1: that people want to trade for. So prospects are easy
- 18:48Speaker 1: to find. You could always find prospects as long as
- 18:50Speaker 1: there's a draft, an international signing period and whatever. You
- 18:52Speaker 1: can make a trade want. So don't get a whole
- 18:54Speaker 1: new team, But at the end of the day, can
- 18:56Speaker 1: you finish it off? That's what That's what theo Epstein
- 18:58Speaker 1: did twice, right, Dave Dombrowsk He's done numerous times. You
- 19:01Speaker 1: have seen goes out. Red Sox needed guys, they went
- 19:03Speaker 1: on and got him. The Cubs needed guys, they went
- 19:05Speaker 1: on got him. You got to be able to put
- 19:06Speaker 1: the finishing touches on rebuilds.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're confident in your ability to find
- 19:12Speaker 2: more prospects via the draft and international signing period, which
- 19:16Speaker 2: Aj Preler is confident in, Dave Dombrowski is confident in.
- 19:19Speaker 2: But they're very self aware of where their teams are
- 19:22Speaker 2: at and right now, for the Orioles, you should be
- 19:25Speaker 2: right in the thick of your winning window at least
- 19:27Speaker 2: being a playoff team every year, and that doesn't look
- 19:29Speaker 2: like it's going to be the case. A lot more
- 19:31Speaker 2: news to get to later. News from late last week.
- 19:34Speaker 2: Matt Carpenter retiring. He's coming on it.
- 19:37Speaker 3: He was Matt Carpenter.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Plan years ago.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Continuing the storyline here for a couple of minutes until
- 19:45Speaker 2: we get back from TV break and bring in AJ's buddy,
- 19:48Speaker 2: Matt Carpenter. Did you guys see what Cedric Mullen said?
- 19:52Speaker 2: He was feeling it and he was emotional. I think
- 19:54Speaker 2: these guys have had a strong connection with Hyde. This
- 19:57Speaker 2: probably is one of the stronger connections AJ, because Cedric
- 20:00Speaker 2: went through some of those really bad years.
- 20:02Speaker 3: So he was holding back tears talking.
- 20:04Speaker 2: About it and said, quote, I feel like I failed
- 20:06Speaker 2: him in a way, just not being able to perform
- 20:07Speaker 2: continuously and help us get some wins across the board.
- 20:10Speaker 3: I wish I was in the clubhouse for that. AJ.
- 20:12Speaker 3: I wouldn't have said this, but I'm joking.
- 20:15Speaker 1: He pitched my thing about Brandon hythe he was good
- 20:18Speaker 1: enough to get him through the rebuild, right. He was
- 20:20Speaker 1: the guy they said, oh, he'll get us through the rebuild,
- 20:22Speaker 1: and then he was good enough to get us to
- 20:23Speaker 1: the postseason for two years in a row. What changed.
- 20:26Speaker 1: He didn't change to what he was doing. He didn't
- 20:28Speaker 1: change the way he went about it. He was doing
- 20:30Speaker 1: the same stuff right. Something changed.
- 20:32Speaker 4: I don't know what.
- 20:33Speaker 1: The pictures aren't pitching as good, the hitters aren't hitting
- 20:35Speaker 1: as good, whatever that is. And he can say, oh,
- 20:37Speaker 1: you need a new message. But honestly, Chris, you may
- 20:40Speaker 1: disagree with me, but what message does the does the
- 20:42Speaker 1: manager really give you? Other than you know, you need
- 20:45Speaker 1: a guy put you in the right position and went
- 20:47Speaker 1: Other than that, managers are they're just there. They're communicators,
- 20:51Speaker 1: are Brandon Hyde has always been known as a good communicator.
- 20:54Speaker 4: You want to know, you want to know what kind
- 20:56Speaker 4: of managing job he did. Go down the list of
- 20:59Speaker 4: all the play who were interviewed about him after he
- 21:02Speaker 4: got fired, how they reacted. Everybody can say your placard's like, oh,
- 21:07Speaker 4: we didn't play good enough. The emotion and the way
- 21:10Speaker 4: they feel about the guy shows the connection that he
- 21:13Speaker 4: made with the players seems like it was a plus
- 21:16Speaker 4: to me. Maybe he just didn't quite have the players
- 21:19Speaker 4: to complete the games.
- 21:21Speaker 2: We've got a lot of get to get to later,
- 21:23Speaker 2: including the Jose Alvarado suspension and the Dodgers cutting bait
- 21:27Speaker 2: with another veteran. All that we'll get to, but we're
- 21:29Speaker 2: gonna sneak this one in for some life support for
- 21:32Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates.
- 21:34Speaker 3: They've got this epic streak.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Rolling on run scored twenty two straight games scoring four
- 21:41Speaker 2: runs or less. This was from a couple of days
- 21:43Speaker 2: ago the league. This was from Cody Duncan, who covers
- 21:47Speaker 2: the team. The league is one hundred and forty nine
- 21:49Speaker 2: years old. This team has a chance to be infamous
- 21:52Speaker 2: in a stand in baseball history. They still have not
- 21:55Speaker 2: gotten there. Do we know what the record is? That
- 21:58Speaker 2: he said, the all time record? What the record is?
- 22:00Speaker 2: Off the top of my head. But now they're at
- 22:02Speaker 2: what twenty four?
- 22:04Speaker 4: Yep?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Oh way, So this is funny. My wife says to me.
- 22:08Speaker 1: She goes, oh, Paul Skeens punched out Harper well like
- 22:12Speaker 1: three times yesterday. And I go, yeah, they got two
- 22:14Speaker 1: hits and got shut out and lost one nothing. I go,
- 22:16Speaker 1: that sums it up for the Pirates. I mean, Skeens
- 22:19Speaker 1: goes out there and just shoves right and destroys the
- 22:23Speaker 1: pirates gives up what three hits, one run and they lose.
- 22:26Speaker 1: I mean, it was ridiculous.
- 22:28Speaker 2: They're like what three and six or seven or something
- 22:31Speaker 2: like that in his starts.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Yeah, but they haven't scored more than two runs I
- 22:34Speaker 1: don't think in any of them or it's like crazy,
- 22:39Speaker 1: but it's not a lot. I don't know exactly what
- 22:41Speaker 1: the number is, but they haven't scored a lot.
- 22:45Speaker 4: Yep, they have not scored a lot. Just in general
- 22:49Speaker 4: as that.
- 22:49Speaker 1: I mean, Skins went eight innings yesterday with three hits,
- 22:52Speaker 1: one run, nine punches, l L.
- 22:55Speaker 4: And they called it a complete game his first career.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Wait game, Well, I mean it is because they only
- 23:02Speaker 1: went eight innings.
- 23:04Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.
- 23:05Speaker 3: But he went as far as he could go.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Welcome to the next your life, Wait wait until yep,
- 23:14Speaker 4: wait for the next four congratulations And they're not either.
- 23:20Speaker 1: They're going to have to treat them, aren't they. They're
- 23:22Speaker 1: going to have to treat them, aren't they.
- 23:23Speaker 4: I wish we had more time because I wanted to
- 23:26Speaker 4: ask him about what the prognosticators are saying. They're about
- 23:30Speaker 4: to get hot. The Orioles are unlucky. I wanted. I
- 23:34Speaker 4: wanted to but it goes all the things he said
- 23:36Speaker 4: go into my theory that guys who are able to
- 23:40Speaker 4: make contact with a lot of balls don't necessarily walk
- 23:43Speaker 4: a lot, but can hit the ball hard, don't necessarily
- 23:45Speaker 4: get the results, but it makes those makes those numbers
- 23:49Speaker 4: go up like oh, it's super unlucky, like bat it
- 23:52Speaker 4: on batted balls in play, like you have to wait
- 23:55Speaker 4: to get your ball in the zone to do damage.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Expected stats in a vacuum are actual stats, but in
- 24:04Speaker 2: real life they're expected stats, especially when they are short term. Right,
- 24:10Speaker 2: this isn't over years and years of time. So just
- 24:13Speaker 2: saying oh, someone's got great process and expected stats, like
- 24:16Speaker 2: that's good. There's some good indicators there, but they're still
- 24:19Speaker 2: losing the games. There's somebody I don't remember who it
- 24:21Speaker 2: is in the baseball world who says like, yeah, if
- 24:23Speaker 2: we're doing everything in a vacuum, no one's alive in
- 24:26Speaker 2: a vacuum. It's not real life. You're making fun of it,
- 24:33Speaker 2: but it's true, you know, Like I'm with you here.
- 24:36Speaker 2: The sarcasm is, Hey, your computer systems talking about how
- 24:41Speaker 2: your players should be playing better than they are based
- 24:43Speaker 2: on how they're hitting the baseball and making contact with
- 24:45Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it's working.
- 24:48Speaker 4: Scott.
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- 25:25Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado done for eighty games, so I'll return late
- 25:30Speaker 2: in the season.
- 25:31Speaker 3: But wait, there's more.
- 25:33Speaker 2: He's not eligible for the postseason performance enhancing drugs trt
- 25:38Speaker 2: ak exogenis testosterone not allowed in Major League Baseball. Not
- 25:44Speaker 2: eligible for the playoffs after he returns from the eighty
- 25:49Speaker 2: game suspension. Kratz, this is a really big deal reliever
- 25:53Speaker 2: for the Phillies. A Phillies team that has a very
- 25:57Speaker 2: clear blemish their bullpen, and now he's gone for a while.
- 26:02Speaker 2: How pissed off is Philly right now? You're close enough.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Easily, I mean so pissed. It happened over the weekend,
- 26:10Speaker 4: so it's more of like stuff smattering in. I haven't
- 26:13Speaker 4: listened to talk radio this you know today, but definitely pissed.
- 26:17Speaker 4: You feel as a fan, people feel like they feel
- 26:23Speaker 4: like this guy, well, you know, maybe he was just
- 26:26Speaker 4: trying to lose weight. Maybe he was just trying to Like,
- 26:29Speaker 4: as an outsider, you look at it and you go,
- 26:32Speaker 4: this guy cheated. This guy cheated. He knew what he
- 26:35Speaker 4: was doing. He was kind of at the end of
- 26:37Speaker 4: his contract. He's not a free agent. He had a
- 26:39Speaker 4: team option that I think it was for like nine
- 26:41Speaker 4: million dollars. He was their closer. He was the guy
- 26:45Speaker 4: who since spring training, I think he had like six
- 26:48Speaker 4: or seven innings with like twenty punchouts. He has been awesome.
- 26:52Speaker 4: He's been elite. He's always been elite when he throws strikes,
- 26:56Speaker 4: and he's been doing that in a shaky bullpen that
- 26:59Speaker 4: needed him him. Now they really need him. And I
- 27:01Speaker 4: love the rule that you can't play in the postseason
- 27:05Speaker 4: if you test positive.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Why are we defending this? It's all I want to know. What. Okay,
- 27:12Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, he was he's overweight. So you went
- 27:14Speaker 1: on a weight loss drug. Don't we have like a
- 27:17Speaker 1: million trainers in a million, doctors in a million of
- 27:20Speaker 1: everything that you can get help with all this stuff.
- 27:23Speaker 1: But that's what I understand. Like there's people like, oh,
- 27:25Speaker 1: he's just he's trying to lose weight. So doesn't this
- 27:29Speaker 1: also build lean muscle and also make you stronger.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Yes?
- 27:34Speaker 1: So, And and by the way, you can if you're
- 27:36Speaker 1: having that much trouble, I'm sure you can go to
- 27:37Speaker 1: the MLB and say, look, I need to get on
- 27:40Speaker 1: ozebic or whatever everyone out in Majarro or whatever it
- 27:43Speaker 1: is that everyone takes to lose all the weight, Like,
- 27:46Speaker 1: come on, Like, I just don't understand why. You know, oh,
- 27:50Speaker 1: we found and the Phillies found out about this, Like
- 27:53Speaker 1: was it two weeks ago? Three weeks ago, so they
- 27:54Speaker 1: knew about this. Like this whole thing to me is
- 27:56Speaker 1: just crazy that people are now defending like, oh, well,
- 28:00Speaker 1: you know he did it because he was overweight. I
- 28:02Speaker 1: don't care. If there's a lot of overweight guys I
- 28:04Speaker 1: played with. They didn't take steroids lose weak ass. What
- 28:06Speaker 1: they did, they ran, They got themselves in shape, they
- 28:08Speaker 1: ate better, they went keto, whatever it takes. I don't
- 28:10Speaker 1: know it just this is this to me is just
- 28:13Speaker 1: you know it just it's it sucks. Just you can
- 28:16Speaker 1: get what you want. Every whatever you want to stick
- 28:18Speaker 1: in your body, you can get it checked a million
- 28:20Speaker 1: times over.
- 28:22Speaker 4: And Major League Baseball allows guys to get it checked.
- 28:25Speaker 4: They you can send them what you're taking and they'll say, yes, cleared,
- 28:30Speaker 4: even if it is not on the list of approved supplements.
- 28:33Speaker 4: Because for Major League Baseball players it's I forget what
- 28:37Speaker 4: it is. The it's it's an acronym. You know, it's
- 28:40Speaker 4: three letters. But it's approved and it's on the approved
- 28:44Speaker 4: list for Major League Baseball. NF, Thank you. NSF certified
- 28:49Speaker 4: things are just what they allow. If you get something
- 28:52Speaker 4: that's not NSF, you can take a sample of it,
- 28:56Speaker 4: send it to the joint program that Major League Baseball
- 28:59Speaker 4: has the Union. They will test it and they say
- 29:02Speaker 4: that bottle that you got has nothing in it, It
- 29:05Speaker 4: has nothing banned in it. So you can do that.
- 29:09Speaker 4: But here's the thing that I think Major League Baseball
- 29:12Speaker 4: maybe hasn't educated enough, or maybe I'm totally wrong on this.
- 29:17Speaker 4: The last, the last, Ah, let's go nine guys that
- 29:24Speaker 4: have tested positive for something. Gregory Santos, Hector Santiago, Ramon Lereano,
- 29:30Speaker 4: Pedro Severino, J. C. Mahea, Fernando Tatis, Jacemhee again, Noel
- 29:37Speaker 4: Vi Marte, Elvis Martinez, Jackson, Profar Jose Alvarado. Are we
- 29:43Speaker 4: missing something that Latin players are not getting enough information
- 29:48Speaker 4: or are we not giving them enough because as a
- 29:50Speaker 4: players Association and Major League Baseball, we need to make
- 29:53Speaker 4: sure that it's not just one group of players that
- 29:59Speaker 4: are testing positive.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would love to talk to a
- 30:04Speaker 2: player about this at some point with the education system, like, Hey,
- 30:08Speaker 2: what's going on here that we're missing the boat?
- 30:10Speaker 3: Right? Because what can a team do? Okay, what can
- 30:13Speaker 3: a team do? All you can do?
- 30:16Speaker 2: You guys, tell me right when you're because you both
- 30:18Speaker 2: played obviously post testing, right when the testing era began.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Tell me what the process was like.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Teams telling you in spring training about what you should
- 30:29Speaker 2: and shouldn't do, Teams giving you as many resources as
- 30:32Speaker 2: possible during that time period and making sure that you
- 30:35Speaker 2: know tell me if this is right or wrong. This
- 30:38Speaker 2: is the top part of the conversation for me. Do
- 30:41Speaker 2: you have every resource a management imaginable?
- 30:45Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you have guys who are disposal. Yes, you
- 30:48Speaker 1: have guys that speak Spanish, guys that speak English. They
- 30:50Speaker 1: come in and do a whole thing. It's it's kind
- 30:52Speaker 1: of it's like Article twenty one. It's it's the same
- 30:55Speaker 1: thing like with the gambling. They come in and they
- 30:57Speaker 1: say they have meeting after meeting and say in your strength, coach,
- 31:00Speaker 1: your trainers and everybody. They literally say, do not take
- 31:03Speaker 1: anything unless we approve it. Don't take anything unless they
- 31:07Speaker 1: see it repeatedly. So, I don't you know there's there
- 31:11Speaker 1: shouldn't be an excuse on this don't take anything.
- 31:16Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's the fact that Alvarado
- 31:20Speaker 4: and Profar are on teams that we're supposed to go
- 31:22Speaker 4: to the playoffs and now are not eligible to play
- 31:25Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I think major lely based that rule
- 31:28Speaker 4: that was agreed upon is a good rule because now
- 31:31Speaker 4: teams need to take it into their own.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Hand Yuh, Crat, we lost it for a sec. Oh,
- 31:42Speaker 2: we'll get to gym in a sec. Sorry, sorry, JB.
- 31:45Speaker 2: You got a little hiccup there with our with our process.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Crats just disappeared. Uh yeah, we got a glitch from
- 31:51Speaker 2: our system, all right, AJ and me for a minute, here.
- 31:54Speaker 3: I want to spend this forward.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado is not going to be a factor for
- 31:59Speaker 2: this team for the majority of the year and for
- 32:03Speaker 2: the playoffs. You can't really make significant trades right now.
- 32:08Speaker 2: The Phillies are in a battle for of course, the
- 32:11Speaker 2: division and a wild card. That's not going to be
- 32:13Speaker 2: easy either. They've got a lot of good pieces in
- 32:16Speaker 2: place with their starting rotation and their lineup. Their bullpen
- 32:20Speaker 2: was already a problem. The Cardinals are good. You might
- 32:24Speaker 2: not be getting Ryan Helsley no matter what. The Orioles
- 32:28Speaker 2: might not trade away Felix Batista, like Jason lockamfora was
- 32:31Speaker 2: telling us because Michael Lias is worried about.
- 32:34Speaker 3: His own job.
- 32:35Speaker 2: There will be arms available at the trade deadline. There
- 32:38Speaker 2: always are. Aj We are more than two months away
- 32:42Speaker 2: from the trade deadline. There's not that much you can
- 32:45Speaker 2: do in the meantime. Could this be a devastating blow
- 32:49Speaker 2: to the Phillies now? Are they going to be a
- 32:50Speaker 2: bad team?
- 32:51Speaker 1: No?
- 32:51Speaker 2: But will they pick up multiple extra losses by not
- 32:54Speaker 2: having their guy who throws super super hard with his sinkers?
- 32:59Speaker 4: Right?
- 32:59Speaker 2: And now we might I know reason why entering his
- 33:02Speaker 2: free agent year. Nonetheless, and this caused a problem for
- 33:06Speaker 2: the Phillies in the late stages of games.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Well, I mean this is definitely a problem for him
- 33:11Speaker 1: because yes, their major weakness right now is there bullpen.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Can they fix this yes, But the problem is everyone's
- 33:16Speaker 1: going to be looking for bullpen arms. What's the number?
- 33:20Speaker 1: Usually the number one in number one A things power
- 33:24Speaker 1: bats and bullpen arms. Every team is looking for power
- 33:27Speaker 1: and bullpen arms, so every team gets involved in Now
- 33:30Speaker 1: with the wild cards and more teams are involved, so
- 33:32Speaker 1: other teams are gonna try this and try that and
- 33:34Speaker 1: try this. It used to be you know, oh, there's
- 33:35Speaker 1: only a few teams available that are buying and there's
- 33:38Speaker 1: more sellers. Well now there seems like there's more buyers
- 33:40Speaker 1: than sellers, so every little arm is going to be
- 33:43Speaker 1: more valuable. So do I think this hurts Yeah? Is
- 33:45Speaker 1: it the end all be all? No, Because let's be honest,
- 33:47Speaker 1: Alvorado could also be not great at times also, So
- 33:50Speaker 1: I think it hurts them a lot, But I don't
- 33:52Speaker 1: think it's gonna cost them a playoff spot because they're
- 33:55Speaker 1: basically they're really built on their starting pitching and their
- 33:58Speaker 1: offense and hitting home runs, so they have to do
- 34:00Speaker 1: that and then they try to figure out the bullpen.
- 34:03Speaker 1: That's what they've done for the last few years in.
- 34:05Speaker 4: A position too. Because it's not Scott had said it
- 34:08Speaker 4: was his free agent year, it's technically not his free
- 34:10Speaker 4: agent year. The Phillies have an option for twenty six.
- 34:15Speaker 4: It's a nine million dollar option. Now you sit there
- 34:17Speaker 4: as an organization after the season, whatever you do in
- 34:21Speaker 4: the postseason, you go, do we pay nine million dollars
- 34:25Speaker 4: for a guy that we're not one hundred percent sure
- 34:28Speaker 4: is clean? Because that's always out there. Now you don't
- 34:32Speaker 4: know if somebody is clean. I asked somebody with the
- 34:34Speaker 4: Phillies organization if they were surprised. They said absolutely, They said,
- 34:40Speaker 4: this guy is not one of those guys. So now,
- 34:42Speaker 4: as an organization, do you put nine million dollars into
- 34:46Speaker 4: him as a closer? Him? Him for nine million dollars.
- 34:49Speaker 4: Hodiamorado for nine million dollars four days ago was a lock,
- 34:54Speaker 4: sure thing, no doubt. You're gonna not let him go
- 34:58Speaker 4: to free agency? Like has he been doing? It? Is this?
- 35:03Speaker 4: You know what's given him his velocity his entire career,
- 35:07Speaker 4: Like he's he's been the same picture his entire career,
- 35:10Speaker 4: it's it's cheese balls and it's going every direction.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, how can he not be to
- 35:16Speaker 1: one of those guys, he's one of those guys. He
- 35:17Speaker 1: just got popped. Don't give me he's not one of them. Like,
- 35:19Speaker 1: you can't say he's not one of these guys.
- 35:21Speaker 4: He's got popped.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Like everyone said, Oh, Nelson Cruz, I played with him.
- 35:24Speaker 1: He wasn't one of those guys. Guess what he got popped. Right,
- 35:27Speaker 1: So if you get popped, you're that guy.
- 35:29Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
- 35:30Speaker 1: If you get popped, you're that guy.
- 35:32Speaker 4: Yep.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it puts a stand on your entire career. There's
- 35:35Speaker 2: no doubt about that, right. I don't think we're going
- 35:37Speaker 2: to see guys get voted into the Hall of Fame
- 35:40Speaker 2: in the Chesting era. Ever, you shouldn't be last part here, Krats.
- 35:48Speaker 2: You watch more Phillies games than AJ and I think.
- 35:52Speaker 2: So here's the bullpen. Tell me what you like, what
- 35:55Speaker 2: you don't like, and if they'll be okay getting to
- 35:59Speaker 2: the trade deadline, and then even at the trade deadline,
- 36:01Speaker 2: if they don't win, you know, one of the one
- 36:03Speaker 2: or two coveted pieces, if they're even available at that.
- 36:06Speaker 4: Point, they'll be okay, because of one step. No team
- 36:12Speaker 4: has used their bullpen less than the Philadelphia Philly So
- 36:16Speaker 4: it's like it's like having a bad eight and nine
- 36:18Speaker 4: hitter and somehow you're just like they just don't get
- 36:22Speaker 4: as many at bats as everybody else, Like you might
- 36:24Speaker 4: be able to hide it because they're starting rotation. Mickabel
- 36:28Speaker 4: we're not even talking about that, but broke a tie
- 36:30Speaker 4: to franchise record for strikeouts in his first outing. Dudes
- 36:34Speaker 4: in their starting rotation go long. So they'll be able
- 36:37Speaker 4: to hold that starting rotation even with Nola out right now,
- 36:40Speaker 4: we'll be able to kind of be the crutch that
- 36:42Speaker 4: the bullpen can lean on until guys like Jordan Romano,
- 36:45Speaker 4: who are doing much better now from the start, they're
- 36:50Speaker 4: going to be able to hold them up. To me,
- 36:53Speaker 4: the three guys are at the top there. Romano has
- 36:56Speaker 4: to keep doing what he's doing. Strom is an all star. Kirkering,
- 37:01Speaker 4: he's got to prove it this year. To me, he's
- 37:02Speaker 4: got to prove it that he's young enough in his
- 37:05Speaker 4: career that he has to continue to be able to
- 37:08Speaker 4: throw one his slider first strike and two a fastball
- 37:13Speaker 4: that can get outs in the zone because not every
- 37:15Speaker 4: time our dude's going to be up there that are
- 37:17Speaker 4: going to swing and miss at a slider off the
- 37:20Speaker 4: plate because they see it. Now, they've seen it. He's
- 37:23Speaker 4: in the big leagues for long enough that guys are
- 37:26Speaker 4: starting to make the adjustment laying off the one away
- 37:29Speaker 4: and they've been able to hammer the one in the zone.
- 37:32Speaker 4: So will they be able to do it? Yes? Will
- 37:34Speaker 4: Dombrowski go and get a bullpen piece? Yes? Is he
- 37:38Speaker 4: going to leverage the minor league system for it? Yes,
- 37:41Speaker 4: because that's what he's done. So yes, I think they'll
- 37:45Speaker 4: be fine because of that starting rotation.
- 37:48Speaker 2: Okay, let us know any thoughts in the comments section
- 37:53Speaker 2: if you're checking this out after the fact. Coming up next,
- 37:56Speaker 2: Front Office Unfiltered, Perfect Time for It will go over
- 37:59Speaker 2: the Albarado suspension, Brandon Hyde getting let go by the Orioles,
- 38:02Speaker 2: and more.
- 38:03Speaker 5: You've played with some talented teams before you made the
- 38:05Speaker 5: postseason with the White Sox.
- 38:06Speaker 4: Obviously.
- 38:07Speaker 5: Last year's Potter's team ninety three wins took the Dodgers
- 38:10Speaker 5: to five games. This team definitely seems to be one
- 38:12Speaker 5: of those again to super talented. Everything's clicking. How does
- 38:16Speaker 5: this team kind of stack up for you with some
- 38:18Speaker 5: of the other teams you've been on.
- 38:20Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think this is the most fundamental
- 38:24Speaker 6: and clean baseball I've consistently seen.
- 38:26Speaker 4: You know.
- 38:26Speaker 6: Last year's team obviously was great, we were, especially the
- 38:28Speaker 6: second half, but just I mean, overall, it really feels
- 38:33Speaker 6: like we very rarely shoot ourselves in the foot, and
- 38:37Speaker 6: there's honestly a lot of games to be won that way.
- 38:39Speaker 3: You know, Baseball is one of.
- 38:40Speaker 6: Those games where we watch it it looks, you know,
- 38:44Speaker 6: especially at a high level, we make it look easy,
- 38:46Speaker 6: but you know, it's still a very challenging game, and
- 38:49Speaker 6: one little.
- 38:50Speaker 3: Mistake can lead to two three runs.
- 38:52Speaker 6: So you know, the fact that for the most part
- 38:54Speaker 6: we're able to limit that, I think that's one of
- 38:56Speaker 6: the things that really one of the superpowers.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Of this team for sure.
- 39:02Speaker 2: That's Dylan Ceas on Friar Territory, Kyle Glazer running the interview.
- 39:06Speaker 2: If you want to check that out, it is available
- 39:08Speaker 2: now wherever you get your pods. Just type in Friar
- 39:11Speaker 2: fr Iar Territory and Kyle's on with my Cameron often
- 39:15Speaker 2: also Heath Bell. Kyle does an awesome job. He is
- 39:17Speaker 2: super dialed in on the Padres. It's one of our
- 39:19Speaker 2: newest shows. Give it a look. AJ you followed Dylan
- 39:23Speaker 2: Cees for a while. He looks like he's got the
- 39:25Speaker 2: San Diego look going a little bit more now, little
- 39:29Speaker 2: a little more hair.
- 39:30Speaker 3: It's got a little more wave to it.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Right, it's maybe maybe some from some beach time, like
- 39:36Speaker 2: some sea salt, got more beard action going.
- 39:39Speaker 3: Dylan CEC's growing up.
- 39:40Speaker 2: You know, he used to have the baby face going
- 39:42Speaker 2: when he was first with the socks, Right.
- 39:44Speaker 1: I mean it's hard not to enjoy playing in San Diego. Right, Yeah,
- 39:48Speaker 1: that's one of those places where most you don't really
- 39:50Speaker 1: hear too many people go there and say, man, I
- 39:52Speaker 1: really hated my time in San Diego. And they might
- 39:54Speaker 1: not have played very well, but they usually are usually
- 39:57Speaker 1: think they have a pretty good time in San Diego city,
- 40:00Speaker 1: the beach, the weather, all that. So yeah, he's enjoying
- 40:03Speaker 1: his time and we'll see where he ends up next year.
- 40:13Speaker 2: What's the beef, Well, there was a ton of beef
- 40:16Speaker 2: in the Bronx this weekend. I mean that was fun.
- 40:18Speaker 2: That was good, clean mid season fun. Yankee fans all
- 40:22Speaker 2: over won Soto Yankees win this series. They're playing good ball.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Saturday's game was a one run contest, and it was
- 40:28Speaker 2: really good. Right, the other two weren't as close. Saturday
- 40:30Speaker 2: was really good. That was just a good ball game
- 40:33Speaker 2: that I watched more of that one than the other two.
- 40:36Speaker 2: But AJ thoughts on the reception for Sodo, and really,
- 40:39Speaker 2: I don't want to overlook the fact that Mets Yankees.
- 40:41Speaker 2: I feel like it's elevating now.
- 40:46Speaker 1: The reaction to Soda was fine, kind of what we
- 40:48Speaker 1: thought was gonna happen. I love that they turned their
- 40:51Speaker 1: back on him. I thought that was kind of cool. Actually,
- 40:53Speaker 1: it almost was like better than them booing him, because
- 40:56Speaker 1: everyone expected, oh, they're gonna boom him, They're gonna boom
- 40:58Speaker 1: and they were just like, yeah, we don't care enough
- 41:00Speaker 1: about you to give you a reaction either way. I
- 41:02Speaker 1: thought that was awesome. You know what was weird to
- 41:04Speaker 1: me and I and I really watched the game last night.
- 41:08Speaker 1: He doesn't look like the same player, Like, where's the eddie?
- 41:11Speaker 1: Press kept saying it last night, like where's the shuffle?
- 41:14Speaker 1: Where's all this stuff? He's not doing that stuff anymore.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Is there something different about one Soda now that he's signed,
- 41:19Speaker 1: because that was like his thing, right, like, oh, he shuffles,
- 41:22Speaker 1: he doesn't care who's pitching, and last night he didn't
- 41:25Speaker 1: do it. And even Eddie pres on the ESPN was
- 41:27Speaker 1: said it a couple of times like this is where
- 41:28Speaker 1: he would normally do the Sodo shuffle, and he did it.
- 41:31Speaker 1: So I don't know, did something changed and did the
- 41:33Speaker 1: Yankee fans get to him that much? He didn't play
- 41:36Speaker 1: the way he normally has played for the past, you know,
- 41:38Speaker 1: seven years. I don't know. It was weird to me,
- 41:40Speaker 1: but you know, what, great job Yankee fans, and it
- 41:42Speaker 1: was just an awesome series, uh, from both sides in
- 41:45Speaker 1: the way both teams played one other.
- 41:48Speaker 2: Note krats before you jump in. I didn't read the
- 41:51Speaker 2: article yet, but I'm trying to remember who it was.
- 41:54Speaker 2: Maybe Petriello. I don't want to call someone's random name
- 41:57Speaker 2: out there, but you know, read what you want into
- 41:59Speaker 2: bats sped. The big power hitters have significant bat speed,
- 42:04Speaker 2: and it's not about like leading the pack necessarily in
- 42:07Speaker 2: that category, but if you do track a guy from
- 42:09Speaker 2: year to year and you see a difference, it's.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Worth an article.
- 42:12Speaker 2: So apparently he's got one of the biggest dips in
- 42:14Speaker 2: bat speed from last year to this year. He should
- 42:16Speaker 2: be in the prime of his career, So I don't know.
- 42:18Speaker 2: I wonder if there's something there.
- 42:22Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad it didn't have bat speed stuff,
- 42:26Speaker 4: because I would have never gotten a chance all that
- 42:29Speaker 4: bat speed. You know, if it changes from year to year,
- 42:32Speaker 4: like you go out and perform. He's not hitting to
- 42:35Speaker 4: his potential yet, I'm going to go out on a
- 42:38Speaker 4: limb bat speed, no bat speed, park adjusted whatever. Wan
- 42:43Speaker 4: Soon's going to be fine. This is a dude who
- 42:45Speaker 4: has He's had second halfs in seasons where his on
- 42:49Speaker 4: base percentage is over five hundred. He's going to be fine.
- 42:53Speaker 4: I think his OPS is over eight hundred. Still, I
- 42:56Speaker 4: personally agree with what he did. I love the fact
- 42:59Speaker 4: that they were booing him in his first at bat
- 43:02Speaker 4: and he took his hat off. He knows they loved
- 43:05Speaker 4: him there. He knows they loved him. He knows probably
- 43:11Speaker 4: seventy percent of the people who are booing were trolling
- 43:13Speaker 4: him and we're cheering him last year in the playoffs
- 43:17Speaker 4: into the World Series. He knows what he meant to
- 43:20Speaker 4: those fans. But I also thought it was I love
- 43:23Speaker 4: the turned it back to him. That's like a high
- 43:24Speaker 4: school basketball. You know, they're they're announcing the other team,
- 43:28Speaker 4: and like everybody puts up there, puts up their newspapers
- 43:31Speaker 4: to act like they don't see him or hear them,
- 43:33Speaker 4: or they turned their back to him. I loved all
- 43:36Speaker 4: of it, and I thought they were all good games.
- 43:38Speaker 4: Even last night's game was close until Belly hit the dinger.
- 43:43Speaker 3: True true, Yeah.
- 43:44Speaker 2: And Belly's on fire, by the way, which is great
- 43:46Speaker 2: news for the Yankees. Right, you can kind of blend
- 43:49Speaker 2: in a little bit more, as crazy as it sounds,
- 43:51Speaker 2: with the Yanks. You know, I feel like Bellinger's getting
- 43:54Speaker 2: less attention this year than you got in his Cubs years,
- 43:57Speaker 2: maybe because he was the guy they were looking up
- 43:59Speaker 2: to as the guy to carry them out of offensive slumps.
- 44:03Speaker 3: AJ and here you're no Aaron Judge.
- 44:07Speaker 2: I mean, you just do your thing, man, And he's
- 44:09Speaker 2: doing his thing right. The four to two game obviously
- 44:12Speaker 2: extended once Belly hit that grand Slam and made it
- 44:16Speaker 2: a two. Max Freed, who has been maybe the best
- 44:18Speaker 2: signing of the off season, looked like his cy young
- 44:22Speaker 2: self again. So what do you think of Belly's starting
- 44:25Speaker 2: to turn it on?
- 44:27Speaker 1: Good for him? You know what, the best part of
- 44:28Speaker 1: that was they were talking about. After Judge struck out.
- 44:31Speaker 1: They're like, oh, the Yankees are going to waste an opportunity.
- 44:33Speaker 1: Whack first pitch, Belly goes deep Grand Slam. So it's listen,
- 44:37Speaker 1: good for Cody. I've always like Cody. I think he's
- 44:39Speaker 1: he's you know, he's been really good, and he's been
- 44:43Speaker 1: you know, very average at times. But when this guy's right,
- 44:46Speaker 1: he's as good as it's fun to watch. He swings hard,
- 44:49Speaker 1: he can play a great center field, he can play
- 44:50Speaker 1: a great first base, and you know what, maybe going
- 44:52Speaker 1: to a place where he's not doesn't have to be
- 44:55Speaker 1: quote the man was a good thing for him. Look
- 44:57Speaker 1: at Goldschmith, right, gold Schmith's having a bounce back here
- 45:00Speaker 1: because he's not the man in Saint Louis. They're like,
- 45:02Speaker 1: you got to drive in the runs, you got to
- 45:03Speaker 1: get all the big hits. Guess what if they have
- 45:04Speaker 1: a guy named Aaron Judge, it's there for that. So
- 45:06Speaker 1: it's a nice place, not necessarily to hide, but you
- 45:09Speaker 1: don't have the spotlight all on you at the time.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Yet, Belly has played in big markets, so it's
- 45:15Speaker 2: not like he's playing here and doesn't know how to
- 45:18Speaker 2: handle a big Chicago or LA crowd. And I know
- 45:21Speaker 2: New York's different, but I mean he's played in some
- 45:23Speaker 2: big markets for some very competitive teams. Any streaky, it's
- 45:27Speaker 2: one of the streakier players in the sport, right. You've
- 45:29Speaker 2: seen him in his prime be an MVP and then
- 45:33Speaker 2: fall off the map. And yeah, he's had some injuries
- 45:35Speaker 2: too that probably were in the way of that. But
- 45:37Speaker 2: the Yankees are fine. They're in a good spot. I
- 45:39Speaker 2: just thought that was a really fun series to follow
- 45:41Speaker 2: over the weekend. Yankee fans were doing their thing, but
- 45:44Speaker 2: no one did anything too stupid, so as far as
- 45:47Speaker 2: I know, so well played by both sides there.
- 45:51Speaker 3: All right, we'll swing back.
- 45:52Speaker 2: We have a lot to get to with better than
- 45:53Speaker 2: box scores from other things we missed from the weekend.
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- 45:59Speaker 2: into card collecting, may I suggest Arena Club and Slab packs,
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- 46:07Speaker 3: It's also the most trusted.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Name in the game, and I would rather rip packs
- 46:12Speaker 2: these days on my phone than sit next to you
- 46:16Speaker 2: and have you grabbing one of my physical packs if
- 46:18Speaker 2: I was grabbing.
- 46:19Speaker 1: One, Yeah, you don't need me grabbing your packs, because
- 46:22Speaker 1: last time you grabbed one, it ended up like this card.
- 46:25Speaker 1: So let's not have that. And that's why Arena Club
- 46:27Speaker 1: is great. They send them to you in these fancy
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- 46:33Speaker 1: and they'll come safe. They're already graded. Or you could
- 46:36Speaker 1: do like I do and just leave my cards in
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- 47:10Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, let's slap.
- 47:12Speaker 2: I want to give love for the last two minutes
- 47:14Speaker 2: of the show, and then YouTube fan we're gonna stay on,
- 47:16Speaker 2: but for the last two minutes here for everyone to
- 47:18Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins. The wind streak was snapped yesterday by
- 47:22Speaker 2: Freddy Pralte and the Brewers, but a j that was
- 47:24Speaker 2: a hell of a run just now by Rocco Baldelli,
- 47:27Speaker 2: do I think, save his job and saved the season
- 47:30Speaker 2: for the Twins early on. Right, This comes in May
- 47:33Speaker 2: after what was a pretty bad April.
- 47:36Speaker 1: And let's not forget it, got right back in the
- 47:38Speaker 1: division race. But they've been in without Korea and buckson
- 47:41Speaker 1: going down. So listen, They're pitching is what has been unbelievable.
- 47:44Speaker 1: They're pitching has been so good, especially they're starting pitching
- 47:47Speaker 1: in their bullpen. Yeah, listen, great run by the Twins.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Let's see if they can keep this up, because, like
- 47:52Speaker 1: we just talked about, this is a tough, tough division
- 47:54Speaker 1: with where they're at now.
- 47:56Speaker 4: Saved this job, save this job other managers were going down.
- 48:01Speaker 4: You win double digit games in a row, Rocos Rocos safe.
- 48:06Speaker 4: Now they have to make the playoffs and actually make
- 48:08Speaker 4: a dent in the playoffs. Maybe they can do it
- 48:11Speaker 4: with pitching. Anything's possible.
- 48:15Speaker 2: If they're in contention. I would love to see them
- 48:17Speaker 2: make a trade.
- 48:18Speaker 4: Now, I'll stop. They won't do that. Don't come on,
- 48:21Speaker 4: don't wish on rainbows.
- 48:23Speaker 2: I would love to wish on a rainbow and see
- 48:25Speaker 2: them make a trade. Their fan base deserves it. We
- 48:27Speaker 2: haven't heard any news about the sale process. It sounds
- 48:29Speaker 2: like that's going to still take a while. Twins fans
- 48:32Speaker 2: deserve it in my mind.
- 48:35Speaker 3: All right, have tef bam.
- 48:36Speaker 2: We're back for the final three minutes here on YouTube,
- 48:38Speaker 2: and then we'll send you to Dodgers' territory. I'm sure
- 48:41Speaker 2: they'll spend a lot of time talking about how Chris
- 48:43Speaker 2: Taylor was cut by the team after Austin Barnes was cut.
- 48:46Speaker 2: I think those were two of the longest tenured on
- 48:50Speaker 2: the ball club. Obviously Kershaw's been there longer, but they
- 48:53Speaker 2: were up there in terms of longest tenured players. So
- 48:55Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll give that some love. Dodgers fans that
- 48:58Speaker 2: follow that show consistently have been saying the Classic send
- 49:01Speaker 2: Chris Taylor to the moon line for a while, and
- 49:03Speaker 2: in fairness, it was time. They've got too much depth
- 49:07Speaker 2: and too many other good players, you know. I mean,
- 49:10Speaker 2: Kim for example, deserves to be on the big league roster.
- 49:12Speaker 2: He's looked great. He looks exactly what you want aj
- 49:15Speaker 2: from a non everyday player. Dude's gonna make contact, play
- 49:19Speaker 2: good defense, run the base as well. Like that's a
- 49:21Speaker 2: winning player in my mind for the Dodgers, that was
- 49:24Speaker 2: a smart pick up, at least in terms of what
- 49:26Speaker 2: it looks like right now.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Chris Taylor had thirty five at bats, thirty five plate appearances,
- 49:30Speaker 1: and we're almost into June. He was big, I don't know.
- 49:33Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he served the Dodgers really well for
- 49:36Speaker 1: a long time. But it happens to everybody. It was
- 49:39Speaker 1: just kind of time, like you said, and yeah, you can't.
- 49:41Speaker 1: You can't have a player that only has thirty five
- 49:43Speaker 1: played appearances, especially on the team like the Dodgers that
- 49:46Speaker 1: move their guys around and like to use utility guys
- 49:49Speaker 1: so much. So to me, it sucks for Chris, But listen,
- 49:52Speaker 1: they paid him a lot of money and he's had
- 49:54Speaker 1: a nice career and he might get picked up by
- 49:56Speaker 1: somebody and figure it out again. But you know, thirty
- 49:58Speaker 1: five played appearances just is enough at this point in
- 50:00Speaker 1: the year.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a good run with LA for a
- 50:04Speaker 2: long time and was a guy that, if you read
- 50:06Speaker 2: his story, looked like he was going to be out
- 50:08Speaker 2: of the league, and then his swing change completely resurrected
- 50:11Speaker 2: his career, made him a lot of money, got him
- 50:12Speaker 2: a lot of success, Kratz.
- 50:14Speaker 3: That's what he got.
- 50:20Speaker 4: I wore a J's hat for him. He probably doesn't.
- 50:23Speaker 4: You probably don't even have one of these.
- 50:25Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't know if I have
- 50:27Speaker 1: anything white sox honest, Jelly.
- 50:30Speaker 3: I got a couple of much a little bit.
- 50:33Speaker 4: I like that.
- 50:34Speaker 3: I like the color.
- 50:35Speaker 1: It's good. It's good.
- 50:38Speaker 4: It's a different gray. I like the different gray.
- 50:40Speaker 2: Yeah, they might want to even call it that different gray.
- 50:44Speaker 2: Two promos for you, because after Dodgers Territory is Baseball America,
- 50:48Speaker 2: Hot Sheet will have a panel of four for the
- 50:51Speaker 2: show today, a lot to discuss, including other pitchers who
- 50:54Speaker 2: could be called up soon. And then after Hot Sheet,
- 50:58Speaker 2: Trevor May takes over may Day on the FT Network
- 51:01Speaker 2: for the first hour than on his channel for the
- 51:03Speaker 2: second hour. Trevor's really good running point, almost like a
- 51:07Speaker 2: late night show with all the little gadgets that he's
- 51:11Speaker 2: got in his new studio. So check that one out
- 51:13Speaker 2: as well. He had a really good episode. What was
- 51:16Speaker 2: it last week? I think it only was when Adam
- 51:18Speaker 2: Outavino was on and he was talking about actual awkwardness
- 51:22Speaker 2: when he was with the team and observing, you know,
- 51:24Speaker 2: Raphael Devers against the Red Sox and Devers just feeling
- 51:27Speaker 2: like the respect level wasn't there. It's better to hear
- 51:29Speaker 2: it from someone who was actually around it. It just
- 51:31Speaker 2: makes more sense. So anyway, check out those shows. Great
- 51:35Speaker 2: one today, this one flew by. See y'all tomorrow.
- 51:39Speaker 3: Actually no, not AJ, right, No, I won't be here tomorrow.
- 51:43Speaker 2: Okay, AJ, We will see you Wednesday, Todd Father Tuesday,
- 51:48Speaker 2: hopefully not.
- 51:49Speaker 3: Actually you're right, hopefully not. That is true. Good luck
- 51:53Speaker 3: to Austin in his game in States.
- 51:55Speaker 1: Is it called yeah, final four?
- 51:58Speaker 3: Final four? Good luck in the final or they win tomorrow.
- 52:01Speaker 1: They play Wednesday for the state championship.
- 52:05Speaker 2: So otherwise we'll hopefully see a Ja Thursday. We'll see
- 52:08Speaker 2: Todd Father tomorrow with krats I e
- 52:12Speaker 6: H.