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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so today we will be talking about the
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  Speaker 3: twelve labors of Hercules and that is from Arrows Arrows.
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  Speaker 3: like what you kind of do on your channel too,
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. On my channel, I mainly go through studies of
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  Speaker 4: the enneads. I've been doing a lot on the occult
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  Speaker 4: rejects of course, and I plan on continuing with those studies,
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  Speaker 4: but also uploading some astrology based things as well, just
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  Speaker 4: going over like some of the outer transits or who
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  Speaker 4: knows what else I might want to cover.
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  Speaker 3: Look forward to the astrology. There was a few times
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  Speaker 3: you open your mouth up about astrology on the show.
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  Speaker 3: They were spitting far so I was like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to this. I was like, this girl's got
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  Speaker 3: some shit up in her head. So all right, Rose,
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  Speaker 3: the twelve Labors of Hercules are may to be totally
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  Speaker 3: honest with you, I have no idea what the fuck
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  Speaker 3: that is, so you're gonna have to, uh, I guess take.
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  Speaker 2: Us with this one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the twelve Labors of Hercules is well,
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  Speaker 4: I guess we'll just get into it. Sure, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how many of the labors will be able to
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  Speaker 4: cover today or anything like that. But okay. So Hercules
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  Speaker 4: or Heracles is the son of Zeus and Alcmena, which
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  Speaker 4: was just some mortal woman. And so when you know
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  Speaker 4: they had a baby that really upset Haarrah or do
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  Speaker 4: you know, Zeus once again being unfaithful to her, and
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  Speaker 4: so she kind of set out to kill or ruin Hercules.
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  Speaker 4: She's kind of the villain of this story. I guess
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  Speaker 4: it's like, do you blame her? Probably? Maybe maybe she
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  Speaker 4: goes too far. So like the first example of her
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  Speaker 4: trying to sabotage Hercules is when he's an infant, she
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  Speaker 4: sends two serpents to kill him in his cradle and
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  Speaker 4: Hercules strangles both of them. Now, Hercules actually had a twin,
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  Speaker 4: and at first they didn't really know which one was
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  Speaker 4: Zeus's son, because I guess Alkmina had a husband as well,
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  Speaker 4: and so it was like, Okay, well, one of these
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  Speaker 4: is Zeus's and one of them isn't. Obviously, when when
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  Speaker 4: this infant strangles two serpents, that indicates that it's Zeus's
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  Speaker 4: son for sure. And that's a pretty pivotal moment because
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  Speaker 4: it kind of indicates like over it's like a first
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  Speaker 4: indication of overcoming the restraints of fate, I guess. And
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  Speaker 4: so we will fast forward a bit. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how important this story. Some of Hercules' younger things are,
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  Speaker 4: like him killing his teacher and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Like whoa, yeah, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: You know, he was just kind of aggressive, rebellious teen.
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  Speaker 4: Here's a rebellious teen, yea troubled.
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  Speaker 2: Youth listening to that metal music.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one of the things, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: always pops up is that he doesn't know his own strength, right.
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  Speaker 1: He's always sort of this character who you know, is
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  Speaker 1: super strong and has very little control. And in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways, the Twelve Labors really refines and shapes
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  Speaker 1: his character from being this you know, out of control
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  Speaker 1: youth into something even even bigger and better. But I
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  Speaker 1: think there's something more about these gods and how they
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  Speaker 1: interact with him, and and the whole point is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Hara is trying to humiliate Zeus or trying to humiliate Hercules.
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  Speaker 1: By you know, by doing that, she's humiliating Zeus, she's
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  Speaker 1: getting back at him, and the Twelve Laborers were meant
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  Speaker 1: to humiliate Hercules, and so he's willingly putting himself into
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  Speaker 1: these humiliating situations to bring honor back to his name
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  Speaker 1: and back to his family and back to all of
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. So it's like the anti embarrassment. This is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know it, damn the torpedoes. It doesn't matter what's happening,
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  Speaker 1: you go full fledged right into the fray. And there's
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  Speaker 1: something really admirable about that that all the classic world
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  Speaker 1: really looked up to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely true. Like part of it is overcoming
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  Speaker 4: the bestial humanity. So anyway, oh sorry, sorry nick, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I was just gonna move on to his his marriage.
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  Speaker 4: He gets into a happy marriage with Megara, which is
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  Speaker 4: the princess of Thebes. They have several children together. But
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  Speaker 4: one day when Hercules gets home, I believe he was
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  Speaker 4: outslaying monsters and he gets home and he sees monsters
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  Speaker 4: in his home and he kills all of the monsters
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  Speaker 4: that he sees in his home. But once they're all slaid,
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  Speaker 4: he realizes that, you know, the monsters were actually his
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  Speaker 4: his wife and his kids. Yeah, Haarrah had inflicted temporary
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  Speaker 4: madness on him. So after this, you know, he's overcome
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  Speaker 4: with greed and guilt and he goes to the oracle
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  Speaker 4: of Delphi to seek guidance. And I think that there's
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  Speaker 4: some like maybe the oracle like Haarah was close to
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  Speaker 4: her or something like that, I believe, but either way, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: what the oracle tells him is that he needs to
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  Speaker 4: become a slave to his cousin, King Eurus Theus.
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  Speaker 5: For ten years has.
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  Speaker 4: And perform whatever labors he commands. And you know, he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't love the idea because he thinks that he is
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  Speaker 4: inferior whatever, but he agrees to.
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  Speaker 1: It also really important to note that this was the
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  Speaker 1: King of mycene right, so this is the group that
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  Speaker 1: you know took their boats over to Troy and smashed
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  Speaker 1: that place before this. Actually this was the Twelve Labors
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  Speaker 1: of Hercules were you know, centuries before that, but this
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  Speaker 1: was you know, basically you have the same kind of
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  Speaker 1: relationship between Hercules and this king as you do with
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  Speaker 1: Achilles and the King of my Scenate back then as well.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like you've got this divine being commanded by
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  Speaker 1: the impotent and totally powerless in terms of this, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's almost like you have to humble yourself. He's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like this Maverick character. You know, everybody knows
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  Speaker 1: Maverick and the movie from you know, Top Gun. He's
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  Speaker 1: like so much better a pilot than all the people
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  Speaker 1: who are commanding him. He's like, God, damn it, Maverick,
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  Speaker 1: You've got to do what I tell you or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That sort of a relationship you have with this character.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of like that constant theme all throughout history.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, con.
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  Speaker 2: Good movie.
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  Speaker 4: I guess to give more context of why I even
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  Speaker 4: wanted to cover this, I was reading Alice Bailey's writing
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  Speaker 4: titled the Twelve Labors of Hercules. Do you know, Alice Bailey, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: part of that Theosophy Society, the Seven Rays ascended Masters Flynn,
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  Speaker 4: but regardless led me down some rabbit holes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: was making some connections. The story starts with the first
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  Speaker 4: labor being the Nemian lion in the east, kind of
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  Speaker 4: representing this sol or gate and the fixed cross because
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  Speaker 4: an astrology, the east is kind of is where we
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  Speaker 4: get our ascendant. So at the exact time that we're born,
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  Speaker 4: whatever sign is on the horizon directly to the east
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  Speaker 4: is our ascendant, and then that'll set up our zodiac axis.
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  Speaker 4: So for him or what he represents is the fixed cross,
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  Speaker 4: so Leo, Aquarius, Scorpio, and Taurus. And when he strangles
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  Speaker 4: the serpents, this is I think I mentioned it before,
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  Speaker 4: a symbolic of victory over duality fay preordained limitations and
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  Speaker 4: also associated with the North and the South nodes, which
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  Speaker 4: is another astrological reference, and there are other nodal indicators,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, he kills a bunch of Typhon's kids,
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  Speaker 4: all of the monsters pretty much our Typhon's kids, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's the serpent of the Eclipse, and then
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  Speaker 4: he starts his journey on the eighteenth year. So when
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  Speaker 4: he's eighteen, he kills his wife and family, and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, he goes through a grieving period and goes
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  Speaker 4: to see the Oracle of Delphi and he starts this
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  Speaker 4: entire journey, and you know, somewhere between our eighteenth and
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  Speaker 4: nineteenth birthday we have our our nodal return. And then
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  Speaker 4: he is a slave to the king for ten years,
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  Speaker 4: which would indicate a reverse nodle return, So a nodal reverse.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if I could add something real quick, yeah, let
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  Speaker 1: me see, let me put this down for a second.
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  Speaker 1: So the Hittite lion is a really kind of interesting
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  Speaker 1: thing because this is in the east from where Greece is,
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  Speaker 1: and the Hittite lion gate would be, you know, sort
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  Speaker 1: of like this kingdom of the East compared to the
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  Speaker 1: rest of it. And so you've got this this hit
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  Speaker 1: Tite lion sort of showing up both in the story
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  Speaker 1: of Hercules and in the story of Samson as well.
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  Speaker 1: Samson is supposed to, you know, strangle this lion in
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  Speaker 1: the wilderness, and it's all in the area of the Hittites.
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  Speaker 1: And there was actually a lion that was native to
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  Speaker 1: the region that went extinct. So all of these lions
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  Speaker 1: you see all over the Middle East, they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: where were the lions? Well, they went extinct way back
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  Speaker 1: in like the sixteen hundreds, and that was like the
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  Speaker 1: last time they were ever seen. But these lions were ubiquitous.
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  Speaker 1: So when they're talking about shepherds and they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, they had to fight off these beasts,
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  Speaker 1: and so the Nimian lion wasn't just sort of like
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  Speaker 1: a symbol, you know, it was a thing that they
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  Speaker 1: had to contest with a lot, and they were a
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  Speaker 1: very potent symbol of loyalty because everybody knew what that meant.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I was gonna say speaking to the lion.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody brought up that Gilgamesh and Hercules share a lot
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  Speaker 5: of the same characteristics. They see Gilgamesh carrying the lion,
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  Speaker 5: and also Samson, and then somebody else had said the
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  Speaker 5: twelve labors, Suffering's death and resurrection are related to initiation.
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  Speaker 5: Heracles was demodeled for an initiate. Yeah, I was going
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  Speaker 5: to say something along the lines of you had the
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  Speaker 5: twelve steps to the hero's journey of the initiate, because
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  Speaker 5: not only were these like other heroes that you hear
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  Speaker 5: about in antiquity and in the Middle Ages, like the
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  Speaker 5: knights and stuff. Not only were they warriors, but they
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  Speaker 5: were also in these initiatory schools as well. A lot
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  Speaker 5: of people don't know that, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely very initiatory. So I have a couple of
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  Speaker 4: quotes that I really like. So this is from Porphyry,
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  Speaker 4: he said, and as yeah, and as much as the
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  Speaker 4: sun wards off the evils of the earth. They called
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  Speaker 4: him Heracles in passing from east to west, and they
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  Speaker 4: invented fables of his performing twelve labors as the symbol
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  Speaker 4: of the division of the signs of the zodiac in heaven,
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  Speaker 4: and they arrayed him with a club and a lion's skin,
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  Speaker 4: the one as an indication of his uneven motion and
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  Speaker 4: the other representative of his strength, and Leo in the
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  Speaker 4: sign of the zodiac. And then this is from Velp
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not really sure who that is. It's a
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  Speaker 4: Hellenistic astrologer, an ancient Hellenistic astrologer, but I wasn't able
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  Speaker 4: to find any text by them. This is I wish
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  Speaker 4: I could, so if anybody does know who this is
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  Speaker 4: or has any text by them, I would be interested
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  Speaker 4: in reading those. This constellation is said to represent the
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  Speaker 4: Roman Hercules Greek Heracles, who was the greatest of the
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  Speaker 4: Greek heroes and famous for his twelve labors. As an infant,
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  Speaker 4: Heracles strangled two serpents sent by Juno to kill him
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  Speaker 4: as he lay asleep in his cradle. It is suggested
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  Speaker 4: that the two serpents represent the lunar nodes. He died
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  Speaker 4: on a funeral peer, became a god and ascended to
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  Speaker 4: Mount Olympus to join the other gods and go. Naeson
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  Speaker 4: U is a Greek title for Hercules, with Roman writers
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  Speaker 4: translating it geniculator or geniculatus, these terms meaning the kneeling
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  Speaker 4: of man and Ghanci from and ghan Si on his knees. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so I want to talk a little bit about the
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  Speaker 4: north and South node and Typhon real quick.
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  Speaker 2: So would you Typhon and Apophus is the same.
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  Speaker 6: Typhon and who because they're both They're both the reason
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  Speaker 6: why I'm asking because in the the LVX formula they're
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  Speaker 6: both like put together and Typhon just wonder in your opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not sure, but probably In Greek cosmology, Typhon
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  Speaker 4: is the last and greatest monster produced by Gaya, a
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  Speaker 4: serpent cathonic eclipse causing the storm bringing force, which, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, there have been so many volcano eruptions and
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  Speaker 4: seismic activity lately, like oh my gosh, chaos is winning.
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  Speaker 4: He is a symbol of total cosmic disorder, the opposite
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  Speaker 4: of Olympian order, and some traditions almost all monstrous creatures
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  Speaker 4: derived from Typhon, and it's chid nakidnap oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: In Hellenistic symbolism, he's the dragon that eats the sun
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  Speaker 4: and moon at eclipses. His head represents the north node
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  Speaker 4: and tail represents the south node. He's associated with duality
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  Speaker 4: and differentiation. He's also associated with set tiamatt and ra
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  Speaker 4: huslash kt and I guess some keywords that I would
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  Speaker 4: use around him is unformed, chaos, turbulence, noise, dissolution, anti intelligence,
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  Speaker 4: or psychic fragmentation.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, you mentioned apophice. Is that the same as
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  Speaker 5: a PET?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's related to Taiphon. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 5: I knew that's set, that it's basically the same as set, but.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Apep and Set Actually they did fight, so Set
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  Speaker 1: Horus slays Apep, Osiris slays Apep. They all have these
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  Speaker 1: different stories where they're slaying the chaos in in favor
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  Speaker 1: of their orders. Right, so you can kind of see
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  Speaker 1: these as different ages or different energy levels. So at
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  Speaker 1: some levels they all have a shot at destroying Apep.
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  Speaker 1: They actually put this in the recent movies about uh Shazam. Right,
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  Speaker 1: The Shazam movies talk about this sort of Apep character
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  Speaker 1: that's always about to destroy the world that has to
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  Speaker 1: be backed off by these you know, elder gods that
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  Speaker 1: have the ability to bring chaos under their heel.
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  Speaker 3: Oh real quick too. Fun fact, it's a well, it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a fun fact. That's probably just a rumor.
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  Speaker 3: But m is that uh Crowley, when you do the
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  Speaker 3: LVX woman, you say a puffics and typhoon, you make
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  Speaker 3: a sign like that. And he gave supposedly Winston Chill
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  Speaker 3: that song to defeat the Swashtika.
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  Speaker 2: Yesh If that's true, that's.
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  Speaker 4: That's the one his am I five days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yo're talking about that the other night.
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  Speaker 2: I've always thought he was intelligence for both countries and.
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  Speaker 5: The what was it the fucking the what was it called.
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  Speaker 1: The Big, the Big, the Big? Right female version of this?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Eric, did you guys like know about I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Have you guys looked into like any of that World
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  Speaker 4: War two magic?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh Emmler had a castle right because a keynot got
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  Speaker 5: one of his daggers. He talks about it when he's
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  Speaker 5: being interviewed and being he's like given a tour of
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  Speaker 5: his I guess his temple and uh, what didn't didn't Hess?
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  Speaker 5: Didn't him and Crowley like do some like duel in
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  Speaker 5: the sky or something like like coming down on a parachute.
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  Speaker 1: He was supposed to do the duel and he was
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  Speaker 1: like baited into it, like it was the worst baiting
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  Speaker 1: of all time. And this guy parachutes into England to
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  Speaker 1: have this wizard duel.
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  Speaker 5: Dressed in like all these Crowley right, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then he gets immediately arrested and thrown into a dungeon
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  Speaker 1: until you know, they kill him. It's like, come on,
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  Speaker 1: what was I supposed to do?
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  Speaker 4: But they don't kill him. They keep him alive for
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  Speaker 4: so long he tries to kill himself so many times.
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  Speaker 4: Poor guy, and like kind of what he talks about
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  Speaker 4: about like like I don't know, he definitely talks about
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  Speaker 4: his experiences with like that psychological magical warfare, and I
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  Speaker 4: mean there's no like this stinct proof about it. But
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  Speaker 4: they did want Crowley to uh interrogate him, and they
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  Speaker 4: they took him to like some off grid place. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't document anything that happened. Crowley said he would love
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  Speaker 4: to interrogate him. But I guess.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody you're talking about hess Yeah yeah, okay, okay, okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: because Crowley, I mean he was already embedded in the
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  Speaker 5: MI I five by that point, so yes, yeah, he
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  Speaker 5: just lured him into a trap. Basically, he's like, yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: come fight me. Oop, Like uh yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: This was the thing that this was going on in
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: World War One as well. So Crowley was supposed to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: be a double agent in World War One. He was
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: supposed to be turning against the British. So he comes
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: over to America to tell the Germans in America that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: if they blow up the Lusitania that the Americans will
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: shrink away from more like scared children. How'd that work out?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So they were really pissed off about that, because you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he had lured them into a trap to get America
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: into World War One and then World War two. They
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: had a beef to settle with him, and in the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: process they actually just got drawn into another trap that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Crowley laid for them. So I mean, you got to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: control your nervous system, people, because you will get lured
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: into a trap by people who are just trolls. You've
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: got to let it go.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you'll end up throwing yourself down the
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: stairs and stabbing yourself in the neck with a fork
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: for sixty years until they finally let you die. Yeah. Anyway,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I thought these what some other people had said about
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Typhon was pretty interesting. You know, uh, hundreds of serpent coils, wings, fire,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: breathing heads speaking in contradictory voices, human animal, male and
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: female tones, a walking clash of opposites, paullinious. He's he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: kind of credited with like the the order of the
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: list of labors. There were earlier ones, but none of
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: them survived. So this is the best that we got.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But read that real closely. Apollodius of Roads. It says
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Typhon has one hundred snakeheads that speak in discordant voices
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: simultaneously bellowing like bulls, hissing like snakes, roaring like lions,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: and whispering like humans. The only thing that's missing is
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the eagle. It becomes the tetromorph.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking of this, nice dude.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: With that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: True though archetype of unresolved Cacaphonist duality, Plutarch said, Typhon
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: is the duplicating, dividing, dissociative principle in the universe. He's
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: the counterpart to Osiris. Where Osiris is one, Typhon is many,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: splitting and tearing apart. Plutarch repeatedly uses the Greek word
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: duality when describing Typhon's nature. Typhon represents the diadic principle
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: of indefinite multiplicity that opposes the monad and the Plutonic theology.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: He is called the cause of division and separation in
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: the cosmos, the force that pulls the one into the many,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and that was practless and then uh, I guess the orphix.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: According to the orphics, Typhon is sometimes called double natured
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and is linked to the cosmic egg being split into
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of creation, a primordial act of duality.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Something interesting about that is you've got the dual heartedness, right,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And what we see in the Hopey prophecies is that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the dual hearted will then be shuffled off of this
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: planet away from us in the in the end of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: their planetary uh you know, cosmology. So there is this
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this duality that exists within people that causes the dissociation, right,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: That's what he was saying as well, is this dissociative personality.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: So it's the people who can disassociate their actions from
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: themselves that you know, really start to become a problem.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: As this sort of typhonium force.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I mean makes sense. So the North node and South
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: node are the two points at which the orbit of
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: the Moon intersects the elliptic. It's kind of interesting there's
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: a five degree separation between the Moon's orbital path and
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: the Sun's orbital path. Though I guess you know, the
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Moon's orbital path I believe is kind of complicated. Like
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I can talk about that more in a minute.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But eighteen year cycle, just like the first part of
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Hercules's journey, yep.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Does that say that a we're here, No, but it is.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: So the south node represents the disillusion memory past karma.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: It drains energy, it collapses identity. The north node is
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: desire future karma appetite pulls energy outward, inflates identity. It's
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: like a magnetic pull, so like in like people use
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: it a lot in astrology. Like some people think it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: like your life path or something, but really it's a
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: it's just a it's a karma axis and it's something
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: to balance. So eclipses always occur on the north and
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: south axes when the nodes return to their own Oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: this is from Vettius Balance, which is an ancient Hellenistic astrologer,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: and this is him explaining the nodal return and the
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: node reversal. When the nodes return to their own places
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the nodal return, they bring laborers crisis, bodily sufferings, and
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: great expenses. But when the node is in opposition the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: nodal reversal, the native enjoys relief inheritance or unexpected good fortune.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So when Hercules is starting out this journey right, he's
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: in his nodal return, and then that ten years later
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: when he finishes the tenth labor it would be his
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: node reversal. I spent way too much time on this side.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: But the nodes belong to the Moon, so it's like
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: there is like a link to memory there, right, that's
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: why there's that past life karma, the subconscious which tends
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: to bring out like a lot of those like fears
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: and I don't know how to describe that any better.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But the.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: At those points, the north and south node, you get
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: some chaotic behaviors and some differentiation because the Sun and
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the Earth. Like I guess I'll just skip to the
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: next slide really quick. The original three body problem was
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: the Sun. Have you ever heard of this.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Recently? I have yet.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: My wife talks about this all the time. Oh yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: So it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Makes prediction almost impossible. That's that's the summation, I guess.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, the Sun in the Earth like when they
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: if they were just a duality, like things would line
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: up perfectly, you would have nice, perfect math. But since
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: the Moon comes in and there's these gravitational pools, you know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I would say that they can't determine the path of
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: the Moon, but they have found a way to model
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: it really accurately. So but regardless, this was the original
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: three body problem. And yeah, that moon is introducing this
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: chaotic behavior and this differentiation and so when the moon
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: comes to the nodes, you'll see like title extremes, eclipse eclipses,
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: magnetospheric differentiations, Nodal alignments can create points where multiple continuous
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: fields diverge into sharply different states. Light divides into shadow bands.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: The umbra corona. Sorry I don't know, I'm not a scientist,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: ties into maxima and minima, so like spring tides versus
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: neep extremes. And it's also where like all time keeping meats,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: so that's where like all calenders kind of sync up.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Well. Also also the optic nerves. Right, so he was
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: mentioning how you see the sigil of Satan, and if
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you're looking at the P number from the from the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Earth right here, you kind of get that sigil of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Satan going on in the in the shadows behind it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, it does. It's just like images coming into
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: the eye. That image next to it is the Earth
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: as photographed or I don't know how they did this.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: This is plasma. So it's a look at plasma from
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: the North Pole. And it's too bad. I don't oops,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I can't click that link. I guess right here, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: you know they just did this in twenty twenty three,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: like they have not They have not explored at all,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: like how the moon affects like plasma. They have seen
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: how it affects like elements and.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Tides and water.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all sorts of things.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: The body, the menstrual cycle, a lot of things. Sorry,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: I hope that's not awkward, but I've heard a lot
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: of NI studies about it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, so this is the best that
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: we got. This is in twenty twenty three, and they're
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: looking at different phases of the moon or you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: places of the moon orbitings kind of interesting. And then
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: there's this springtide versus the neap tides. All right, So
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I think, like you guys had already mentioned, this myth
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: is really an initiatory allegory describing the soul's passage along
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: the draconic axis, the line marked by the South and
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: north lunar nodes, the movement of consciousness from the solar
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: gate of Leo, the individualized egoic identity towards the celestial
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: gate of Aquarius, the sphere of the supra person, news
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: and cosmic service, Overcoming duality and fate, coming into the
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: higher mind and taking control of your will, it's not
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: an uncommon belief in esoteric literature or mystery schools that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: you would work your way back from the solar gate
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: and reverse to the cosmic gait. And here's a few
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: quotes from Alice Bailey and the Twelve Labors of Hercules.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: She said, competition and selfish objectives have to be completely
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: changed and eliminated, and we shall find Hercules learning the
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: lesson that to grasp anything for the separated self is
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: no part of the mission of a son of God.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: He has to find himself as an individual, only to
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: discover that individualism must be sacrificed intelligently to the good
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: of the group. You know, I don't know how I
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: feel quite about that quote kind of communists, but the
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: meaning is, like, you know, the Leo to Aquarius discipleship
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: could be defined as the final stage of the path
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: of evolution, and as that period in a man's experience
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: in which he is definitely self conscious. It is the
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: stage in which he knowingly pledges himself to impose the
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: will of the soul, the higher self, which is essentially
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the will of God upon the lower nature. Upon this path,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: he submits himself to a forcing process so that the
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: flower of the soul can unfold more quickly. It is
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: a process of refining, of sublimation, and of transmutation, carried
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: steadily forward, until at length the amount of transfiguration of
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: illumination is attained. And then the last one. We shall
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: trace the story of Hercules as he passed through the
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: twelve signs of the zodiac. In each sign he expressed
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: its characteristics, and in each sign he achieved some fresh
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: knowledge of himself. And through that knowledge he demonstrated the
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: power of the sign and acquired the gifts which the
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: sign conferred. In each of the signs, we shall find
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: him surmounting his oh sorry, surmounting his natural tendencies, controlling
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: and governing his destiny, and demonstrating the fact that the
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: stars incline but do not control. Hercules astrologically enacted the
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: life history of every aspirant and demonstrated the part which
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: the unit must play in the internal enterprise.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I like that view of Hercules better than the communist
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: one for sure.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean I don't know if I really
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: see like the aquarian principle as sacrificing yourself to the
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: good as a group. I mean, certainly humanitarian, but I
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: don't know, I still get what they what they're saying.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, I think I think what he has to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: do is he has to sacrifice his own basically his
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: own mortification, right, So he's he's they're trying to humiliate
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: him and he has to rise above that humiliation to
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: know himself better. Right, So that humiliation is sort of
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: there to try and keep him from knowing himself and
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: actually knowing what he's capable of. And then him rising
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: above that and flowering out of it would be more
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: akin to the hero's journey as opposed to self sacrifice.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And maybe it's sacrificing the egoic limitations of oneself, which
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: is not exactly sacrificing oneself, but you know what I mean.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's exactly what you just said. The ego,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: you know, being a part of more of the lower nature, right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: stuff that holds you down, ties you to this material realm.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, you said it really well.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I think that's what I was thinking too. It could
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: be like giving up exactly what Jules said.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: That's a screenshot. This heris.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: This.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great. I love the little graphs that you
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: put together. They're like it's very organized and then very
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: practical for learning.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: So oh, thank you.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I wanted to hopefully map the labors to
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: the zodiac signs from Leo in reverse order to Virgo,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: because there's a lot of emphasis on this like right reversal,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: like from the solar gate to the celestial gate, from
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Leo to Aquarius. And you know, there's that idea. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: think I already said it, like, you know, you come
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: out of the celestial gate to the solar gate, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: so obviously you would have to return through that path.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: But so the way that it our earliest, I guess
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: record of the order of the Labors is from Apollodorus,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: and so he ordered it as the Nemean Lion, the
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Lernaean hydra, the Serenian hind, the Aramanthian boar, cleaning the
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Augian stables, slaying the Stymphalian birds, capturing the cret and bull,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: stealing the mares of Diomedes, obtaining the belt of Hippolyta,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: obtaining the cattle of the three bodied giant Garion, stealing
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: three of the golden apples of the Hesperides, and capturing
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: and bringing back Cerberus. And there was a historian I
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: don't remember where he was from. But this Theodorus Sichlis
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: was a historian that came after a Polydorus, and he
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: switched around some of the labors, so it was mostly
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: the same, but he's swapped the third and the fourth,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: and the fifth, and the sixth, and the eleventh and
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: the twelfth labors. And then we have, like our one
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: of the only writings that I could find of the
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: mapping of the labors to the zodiac signs, and so
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Alice Bailey mapped Aries to the mares of dium Meads.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I botched that, so bad Taurus to the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: cret and bull Gemini, to the gathering of the golden
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: apples Cancer, to the Serenian hyde Leo, to the Nemean
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: lion Virgo, to the girdle of Hippolyta Libra, to the
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Aramanthean boar Scorpio, to the Lernaean Hydra Sagittarius, to the
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: stymphalian birds Capricorn, to the capture of Cerberus Aquarius, to
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the cleansing of the Augi and stables and Pisces, to
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the capturing of the red cattle of Geryon. And I've
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: like some of these makes sense. But in my opinion,
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: some of them just don't. Yeah, and so yeah, with
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: that in mind of like Leo to Virgo, I went
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and I researched a bunch of different systems that people use,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: and I found this this is from a raw Sacrucion text,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: and so you have, like it's kind of similar, where
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: if only like this, Leo was one and Aris was five,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: h I mean, and then I mean it's not that
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: similar at all. But what what it does have in
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: common is that Virgo is considered like the end point.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: And I think that this like Virgo and Leo relationship
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: shows up a lot in different schools of thought. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: here you have.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: The scarlet Horror writing the beast, right, that's.
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: The strength card and crowle Staro right, so you know
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: the beast being written by the Virgin is sort of
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: like a constant within.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: The you know, all of the tarot cards. So that's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's right there in front of you.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know here you have for Go as
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: the ineffable name uh Voldemort obviously, but yeah, it was
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: pretty interesting, could almost could almost fit. And then here
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: is the uh Sphinx zodiac. So you got Virgo Leo
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: cancer Gemini, Taurus Aries Libra, it is doing the reverse order.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: But on two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: eleven twelve. Yeah, it's I thought there was something weird
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: about it, but now that I'm looking at it and
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: there's nothing weird about it. Yeah, this is like the
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: exact kind of order that I would think of for this.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Uh myss Well there are other clues, right, So in
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: other myths, he goes to Atlas and uh, he has
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to use Atlas as this, uh, you know, another strong
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: man character, and he tricks Atlas into doing some labor
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: for him, and then when Atlas comes back, he tricks
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Atlas into holding up the sky again because Atlas doesn't
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: want to hold up the sky. So during the time
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that Hercules is holding up the sky, he's, you know,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: he's contemplating how he's going to get out of this
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: situation because Atlas doesn't want to be the one to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: hold up the heavens, right, he doesn't want to hold
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: up the zodiac, he doesn't want to hold up the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: memory anymore. That was sort of his punishment after the Titan,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the Titan MAACKI. And then when Titan or when when
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Atlas returns, he says, I got to scratch my nose,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: do you mind holding this real quick? And then Atlas
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: grabs the heavens and he's like, thank you, and then
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: see you later. He pieces out. So he is holding
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: up the sky in one of these in one of
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: these labors, and it's you know, it's very very clearly
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: linked to these heaven bars.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the eleventh Yeah, I think it's the eleventh
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: labor where he's going to get the apples of I forget,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: and so he has to.
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: Go apples of disparities.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, and so he goes to like the edge of
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: of the earth for this and yeah, like like you said,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: it's something like adjust adjusting his cloak or something to
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: get to trick Atlas into, I don't know, going to
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: get the apples.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I think the hesparities were Atlas's daughters, and so he
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: only knew where the apples of the hysparities were. So
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: he had to hold up the you know, the sky
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: so that, yeah, Atlas could retrieve the apples. And so
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: doing you know, Atlas figures, you know, I'm off the hook.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I don't have to hold up the sky anymore. What's interesting, too,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: is you've got a bone in the back of your
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: skull right here, the one closest to the hole in
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: your skull. It's called the Atlas bone because it's holding
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: up the sky, it's holding up your your skull. So
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, there's there's a linkage between
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: you know, all of this stuff and memory, memory itself.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's awesome. Yeah. I associated that with like
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: labor with us with I think Sagittarius and Scorpio. But
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: the Sagittarius at least makes sense, right because you're you're
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: exploring out and you're finding the edge of where you
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: can explore and holding up the sky. It's very jubitarian
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: and then for that like higher knowledge. But I thought
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: this was interesting too because there's a lot to be
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: said about the Egyptians and this idea of the Virgo
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: and Leo. Let's see uh. In antiquity, the sun, stars
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: and constellations were central to marking the annual cycle. Leo
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: the Lion, sits in the sky where the sun reaches
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: its maximum declination during late July August, the heart of
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: summer in the northern hemisphere. Virgo the Virgin lies immediately
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: to the east of Leo and governs the zone of
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: the sky associated with the harvest in autumn. The sphinx,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: as a hybrid human head facing east and lion's body
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: facing west, encodes the junction between a human slash virginal
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: sign and a leonine. The sign a symbolic marker for
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: the change from the age slash season of the lion
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: to that of the virgin and the apparent processional cycle,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: or more simply, the daily slash annual passage from one
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: stellar region to the next. An Egyptian iconography paired. They
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: paired human and animal imagery to express cosmic roles. The
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: great Sphinx at Giza binds of Pharaoh's head with the
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: lion's body. Lions and Egyptian art are solar and royal
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: symbols linked to the rising slash setting sun and to kingship.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: The human head links the rulers intelligence and identity to
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: cosmic order. Some ancient myths depict the guardian or gatekeeper
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: at the horizon, who faces the rising or setting sun,
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: echoing the sphinx stul orientation. In these myths, the guardian
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: marks the passage between two cosmic domains, comparable to Leo
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: to virgo transitions. Among zodiacal seasonal imagery, and in Hellenistic astrology,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: the constellation Virgo is associated with fertility. Oh you know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's important. Yeah, is all I
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to say on that one. And then you know,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: you have a bunch of different like schemes of the
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: descent into matter and the ascent act to the celestial gate.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: So like Steiner believed that the path of descent was
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: from Areas to Pisces, so the normal direction that you
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: would go through the zodiac and then you would return
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: in a reverse order. But to be fair, uh, Steiner
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: had like a bunch of different schemes. So I don't know, Imblicus,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: I Amblicus, sorry, believe that you would ascend into matter
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: through the gate of Cancer. So he believed in like
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: these Cancrian and Capricorn gates, so this would be from
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: and they were like Lunar No, no, that's maybe that
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: was appall apollinious, But regardless, Iamblicus believed that the descent
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: into matter would be from Leo to Capricorn, and that
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: ascent would be from Capricorn to Cancer. And then a
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Pollinious believed that descent would go from Aquarius to Cancer,
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: and ascent would be from Leo to Capricorn. I paired
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: them up like this. I think that the Nemean lion
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: would best aligned with Leo, the hydra with best aligned
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: with Cancer, the Sirenian hind with Gemini, the boar with Ares,
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: the Augian stables with Pisces and Aquarius, the Stymphalian birds
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: with Aquarius, cretn bull with Taurus, mares of Diomedes with
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Aris and Pisces, the belt of Hippolyta with Libra, the
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: cattle of Urions with Capricorn, the golden apples of Hesperides
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: with Scorpio, and Sagittarius and Serborus with Scorpio. I don't
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: know if we want to dig deeper.
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: I guess if I was going to dig into that
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: a little bit. Like all of these ancient Sumerian versions
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: of these, these asterisms were slightly different, so uh, you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: Capricorn had like a scorpion tale as well, so there
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: was there was other other elements that were put in,
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: but they're similar in the symbolism, right, So they all
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: sort of have the same symbolism that they were remixing
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: for their own versions of these things.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So in a lot of ways. The regional variations really
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: do give you a flavor for how these different people
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: thought about, Like you were talking about the ascent in
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: the matter, or the ascent from matter into spirit and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the descent from spirit into matter. Again, these are sort
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: of cultural values that they're in acting here. So a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: lot of this stuff because especially the story of Hercules,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: because these were all the places that the Greeks had
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: basically conquered, right, So this was their tale of expansion,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: and so they would add stories about Hercules as they
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: would go along and expand throughout the region. So they
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: had to align and have a recursive effect with these
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: stories and the sky and their conquest of them. This
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why in Carthage they looked
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: at Hercules as this divine hero character as well, even
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: though it was from a different culture. And when they
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the Carthaginians came over the Alps, what's his name? Ah,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: what's the guy who was conquering all of Italy at
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: the time. Give me some helpier now, now this is
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Carthaginian who Hannibal? There we go. Hannibal said that his
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: labor and taking the elephants over the Alps was greater
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: than that of Hercules himself. So he was making that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: comparison because that was one of the things that they
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: revered as well. So this, these trials of Hercules went
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: from all the way in North Africa over to the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Greco Buddhists in Kazakhstan, right, So they had the images
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of Hercules as this figure of conquest and indomitable spirit
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: all the way across Europe deep into Asia.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Why did you mention Capricorn having a scorpion tail, But.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: No, it's in the it's in the it's in this
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: imagery itself. But you know, that's that's what the you know,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the version of the you know, mythology coming from the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Samerians was so, you know, capricorn was a human bib
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: on top of a of a lion or horse body,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: and also it had the scorpion tail as well. So
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: there was a sort of a linkage between all of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: these different symbols that they were sort of expressing in
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: their culture that you know, maybe didn't fully transfer over
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: into other cultural expressions of it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, Alice Bailey mapped, for example, the cerberus labor
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: to capricorn. But I mean, scorpio makes sense, right, you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: it's Cerberus. It's Pluto's companion, like, you know, he he
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: goes down, he brings Cerberus up to the surface and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: then they're like, oh my gosh, no, put him back.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 9: So it was one of those things I'll bet you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: can't do it, and he did it, and they were like, oh,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: what do we do now? He's loose, Like this is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: the hound of Hell for you know, all intentsive purposes.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: It's the most terrifying.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Beasts in the world because souls are not allowed to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: exit Hell, and the thing that stops them from exiting
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Hell is service. So you're bringing that up to the surface.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: It's you know, it's hell on Earth basically, yep.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: And that's what Scorpio does. It brings hidden things to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: the surface, the dark things to the surface. But I
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: suppose we can stop there for now, just.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Because what's the next part going into?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Just like these justifications for why I mapped things to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: the things that I did, but honestly, I haven't perfected
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: them enough. I want to add a lot more detail
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: to it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else I mean besides like anything that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: you wanted to say that was in there that maybe
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't mentioned before, and they maybe popped up in
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: your head that you're like, oh, I should have put
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: that down, you know.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I mean the hero's journey, right, Uh, you know,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: I definitely should have included more about the hero's journey
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: or just description of that, but it's not something that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: I would be able to explain off the cuff anyway.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: Right, Well, there's many there's a many type of a
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: hero's journey, right, It's like the quest or immortality worthy
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: quest to uh, you know, find your highest consciousness. You
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: could say it's all one and the same, but I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: think you can differentiate a little between some of these
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: uh figures that are talked about in these similar stories.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in astrology, people map their hero's journey to their mars.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: It's fun if AMPI is interested in looking into whether
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: that resonates with them.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Well between.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I was asking hers if she reads if she
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: reads astrology? Oh yeah, yeah, ok yeah, might shoot your
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: message or something.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I really like working with like sinistry and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: transits or just even aligning yourself to like your your
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: damon or I don't know, finding me or whatever.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: It's something that i'd like, I don't know, I'm sure
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: we could have you on the talk about it sometime
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: as well. I'm sure you've been on here to talk
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: about astrology. I don't know, Hashi.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Actually no, really for you.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd like to I'd like to
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: hear about it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, I'd be happy to do that. There's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: a lot to talk about with astrology.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about going to really talk about it. So,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: I know Nick has had people on to talk about
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: like Mayan astrology and then like all this other type
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: of astrology.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: But they get much information the.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I focus on Hellenistic astrology. I think that Monday
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: might talk about oh well yeah, anyway, Monday I might
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: talk about the lot of spirit a little bit and uh,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: connecting to your damon interesting stuff.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: But alchemy, yeah, alchemy mondays.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Oh yo, you know we uh, I don't think we
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: mentioned it on this Did we mentioned on the show
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: that we're going to that event headless?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Have we mentioned that yet?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: We did? Okay, maybe, Oh no we haven't.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: No, we haven't. Go ahead and tell him.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even know. Yeah, God, I keep forgetting the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: name of it.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you look it up. I got something
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: here that may have influenced a lot of Vedic astrology.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: It was called Greco Buddhism, right, and Greco Buddhism was
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: practiced in a very interesting part of the world. Right.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: So let's look at the map here. This is the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Indo Greeks, right, the Indo Greek kingdoms right in here,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: all the stands and stuff like this. They had the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Marian Empire, right, this was in the fourth century BC, right,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: So all of this stuff. They think that the early
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Buddhist statues actually came from the Greeks during the time
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: of I can pull that up a little bit, during
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: the time of Alexander the Great, right, and so let
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: me see there's a These are the coins showing Alexander
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the Great conquering the region, right, Afghanistan as well. So right,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: so Bactra right here, al Khanoun, all of this stuff
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: in here was kind of, you know, heavily influenced by
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: this Greek sort of push into the region through Alexander
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: the Great. And so if we look into it, it's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: the Greco Buddhism. Bactrin Kingdom was the successor of the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Seleucid Empire, so that was the people occupying all of Syria,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Syria and levant, so they have you know a lot
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: of information here just recently sort of being uncovered, and
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Greco Buddhism seemed to be a syncretism between the two
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: and it was you know, perfectly in line with the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: sort of Buddhist ideal. And if you if you look
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: into a lot of aphrodites orphic hymns, it has a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: real uh Budhic flavor to it, like they're talking about
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: uh desire and how desire is the root of you know,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: it's the chains that bind every beast. Right, desire is
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the chains that bind every beast, And that really sounds
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a lot like how the Buddhists saw, you know, desires
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: being like the early part of you know, all suffering
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: in the world. So the wheel of the law right,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not sure how much of a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: role it played in informing the Vedic astrology, but you
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: have a very you know, strong astrological culture in India
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: being having this you know, other strong astrological culture right
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: off to the north up in Pakistan and the rest
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: of it. Did you want to pull up your image,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think this is the one you were
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: talking about was this the one with Hercules next to him?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's Hercules right next to Budha.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: Is his hand turning into a lotus? Or am I
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: just seeing? Is that like a pine cone in his hand?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Like the Orion pose? The Orion pose? You know, he's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: got the.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: Is it the Orian constellation right next to Hercules.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a smaller picture right there. I don't have
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: the bigger one. I wish I did.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: I think, Oh, sorry, I know you're fine. I was
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: gonna say, I think there's like also an idea that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: like maybe all into Europeans came from like Vedic times.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: I can't tell what's in his hand even looking at
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: other pictures.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: That's weird. Something in there though.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Is it a flower bud that was saying the lotus
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: the lotus blossom? But also we've been talking a lot
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: lately about the crown chakra with the thirty three pedals
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: on the flower and stuff.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: That would be the Hercules consolation. And you see that
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: same form being you know, exemplified with that other Hercules
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: right next to Buddha. Right, So he's got that arm
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: above his head in that same shape. So I think
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: they kind of knew what that was about, and having
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: it mesh in with Buddhism just seemed to be a
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: natural fit because you know, both pro into European speaking societies, right,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and that's where the Aryan invasion of India started, right
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: through that those mountains, so actually kind of fits really well.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I read an article a while a
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: long while ago about I don't remember whether it was
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: like titled Vedic Indo European or something like that, but
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: they were tracing languages back and they traced it all
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: back to Vedic times. It's kind of interesting, or at
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: least all Indo European languages, right.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Well, the the Indians say that all of the Arians
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: came from India and moved out, but there's absolutely evidence
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: to show.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: That the opposite.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Uh. Oh, so that.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: That thing and uh that thing we're going to headless.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: That is the Quest for Ancient Civilizations and that's Scottsdale, Arizona.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: That's December fifth through seventh. It's done by uh World
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: War Worldview z Media and Wandering Wolf. We've had him
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: on the show before and uh, the Dunking Dan will
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: be there as well.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: He's you know, he's been on the show. So yeah,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: we'll be there from the fifth through seventh. I mean
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: we don't have a booth, but uh, somehow they gave
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: us free tickets.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: So we're going Scottsdale, Arizona. Wow, yep, fifth through seventh,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: and you also have Mike and Dave's multiverse.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Will be there. Cody from what was that East Tody
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: ten Productions?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: These ten Productions. We did a great show on Delphi
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: with him. That was h that was a great time.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be an awesome time.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, he's mceing the thing.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: I had no idea when I told him I was going.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I'll definitely be able to, like, you know,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: say hi, what's up. He's like, well, I'll probably be busy.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: And he was explaining like the mcne and a bunch
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: of other stuff he's involved in.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay cool.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, but uh yeah, it should be interesting.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Uh my day from Mike and Days was to me
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: he thinks it might be better than a cosmic summit.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. But uh, should be fun.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: Should be fun if you guys are around, you know,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: let us know even you know, tell you truth, even
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: if you're in like that area. I don't know if
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: you want to hang out after the fact that I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: guess we'll be around after the show.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: So I was in Medicine Park on Tuesday, and uh,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: one of the one of my followers on Twitter just
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: started posting pictures of it because he's right down the
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: street from where we're at. So I know those people
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: out in Scott's Day also hit us up.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I just booked up.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Madison Park, Oklahoma. Who would have thought?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, and like, you know, real quick, I should have
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: mentioned that I don't even know who you know some
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: of these people are. But you got a a j
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: gentile or gentile speaking Gary Buckler, Jimmy Corsetti, David Hatcher,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Childish Hugh Newman.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I know who he is.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: He was at cosmicsm it William Henry, Michael Button, Dan Richards,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: JJ Ainsworth, Will Brown, Michael Collins, who's wandering Rolf.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: He's been on the show before, and uh, why not?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how to say this name. Forget it?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, that's the other name I can't pronounce. So
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: check it out, all right? Was anything else that you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: guys wanted to add?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if y'all have five minutes, I found Uh, do
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: you all remember when I told you I think it
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: was a couple of years ago. I went to BMI
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: and I saw a bunch of cool statues and stuff.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: I found those pictures. They SYNCD up my other laptop
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: synced up to this laptop. So, uh, I got all
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: my old stuff from the earlier gray Pilled episodes and
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: kind of stoked about it. But here, I've got some
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: pictures that I'm gonna share with you, just five or
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: six pictures. Headless one enjoyed these. See, here's this one
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: right here. I think that is Cupid and Arrows right.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Or Helios is in the chariot. Apollo doesn't really have
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: a chariot, Okay, so that because look he had wings too,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: pretty sure or a cape.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe he's depicted this beautiful art man yea, or no,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: I think it was saying, was that Cupid and Psyche
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: right there up top?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that's because that's what was saying
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: on things. So here there's that. Then there is there's
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: there's a couple that y'all are going to actually like. Here,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: let's I wish I need to do power points and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: be a lot cooler. There's this one. I was telling
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: you about headless. Right here this is our girl, and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: look she has the Frygian cap on. Dude.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Why does she have a Fridgian cap on?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm loving it. Have to get
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: me one.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: She's got the the Medusa had on her breastplate, which
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: is common to Athena as well.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: But Afa usually has a helmet, a g helmet, not
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the the you know, fridging cap.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: That was simple that I told yesterday without you headless,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: I think that's what I got some.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: One on one?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: Did she have ivy at her feet?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Is that weird?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: This was in the Robert E. Lee Church. Right here
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: you have a basically phoenix on top. Yeah, look at
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: the pod, dude. So here I have a close up.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: There's a dove at the bottom that says military on
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: it with the all seeing eye. But I have a
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: close up of the eye. Dude, Hold on, look look
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: at this. It's kind of creepy. Not gonna lie. I'm sorry,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: I have to do this, guys.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: This is where was this?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: This was in Virginia in Lexington. The am I look
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: at the eye, It's like like looking up I guess it's,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: you know, symbolic of looking up to the heavens.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't look like that.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: What does it look like? What does it look like
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: to you?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: It looks like exhausted, tired. It looks beating down.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: You're right, yeah, yeah, I was waiting for someone else
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: to say it. Yeah, absolutely, almost the evil eye in
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: a way. Yeah, I kind of caught that vibe. I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: was like, this is weird, just kind of eerie. Here,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: let's look at some more pictures.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: In the in the tant, in the Tanate steles that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you have in front of the top its, you always
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: have bal Hamone above Tanant in the form of that
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: all seeing eye sort of shining down on top of
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: her as well, So that's bal Hamone as well as
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: being you know, the idea of a Monday as well.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: Oh Ballamon this this was right outside right there. It's Minerva,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: I think, right because you have the al up in
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: the corner. I was like, oh cool, Moula cool, obviously knowing.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: What I do now, Minerva gives Hercules a cloak.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: Look at the face in the arm right there, isn't
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: that cool? Is that the same as the Medusa head.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: That looks like it. Yeah, that's part of the armor
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: that she's wearing. It seems like some sort of plate
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: on the moon.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's the moon. It's a crescent moon. Okay, right,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: and this is just on the campus, so.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Yes, it's that left nipple again,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: just like the Virginia flag.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: The flag, all the serpents going down her sleeve. What
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: what city is that? Headless?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Uh? What b M?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: I is that? That is that depicting the college.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: That's the engineering symbol for the army. The engineering symbol
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: is that castle with the two parapets and then the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: gate that opens and closes in front of it. That's
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: the Engineering Corps of the Army. I was in it,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: so you know that's what we had on our on
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: our berets. But that that boo about is the same
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: type of thing that you see on the Virginia flag. Right.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: So the the goddess that you see standing on top
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: of the man with her spear in her hand also
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: has the boubout exactly like that, but she doesn't have
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the you know, ath Athena style armor over over top
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: of it. But it's interesting how they're remixing it.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: Well, here, I have just a couple more before we
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: get out of here. Uh, this one right here was interesting.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know if this had if you knew it,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: if this represented anything. There's a little templar cross right
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: there in the middle of that castle if you yep,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: head cross, and then you go down and it's uh,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know what shield that is or what kind
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: of riding that is. Either that's Greek, that's Greek. Okay, figured,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: so the whole campus is just great. Yeah, all right, cool.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Man, I forge Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, it can't happen overnight. Anyway. One more picture.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: Thought this was interesting, heavily, she might what's that right there? Dude, Well,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: I pull this up. Is that right there? Is that
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: ring six point star on there? I don't know about
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: all that. Yeah, they had that. There's the bigger picture.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: It says Mitzvah on the top, and this big gold plate.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: So I think it was something to Israel. I don't know.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: It was right right around writing.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was right around when I started to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: get woke to the whole you know, JQ thing. But anyway,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: I thought that this was I saw these pictures and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: I Remember I was talking to y'all a few weeks
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: ago about it. So next time I'm going to the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: Rosicrusion Lodge. Well it's not there's rosicrusions there, I guess,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: but it's it's the first Lodge, the Glasgow Lodge, I think,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: first lodge in Virginia. I don't know.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Interesting now we have.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: We have our our friends, the Virginia's for conspiracy lovers.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: They actually did, uh right, Yeah, he did like several
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: different like uh training sessions for the Masons in Virginia
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: because they didn't know anything about their early history and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: their linked to the Knights Temple or any of that stuff.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: So like conspiracy theorists are actually training Freemasons now because
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the Freemasons have lost all of their own internal history,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: which is just ridiculous, like what are we doing.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm adverse to the Phrygian cap that well,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: because I see the French Revolution as orchestrated by the Masons.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Orient the Orient Lodge, Right, So the Orient Lodge is
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: sort of like a faction within the Masons that carried
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: out the French Revolution, which was not exactly in line
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: with what the other made. The Scottish Freemasons and the
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the other the other brands were so you know,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: the Scottish Freemasons were not not about that stuff. They
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: were Scottish Freemasons are the ones that gave us the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: American Revolution, and the orient orient to Lodge is what
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: gave us the French Revolution.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they admitted to it, Like multiple of the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: Masons admitted to orchestrating the French Revolution and like hiring
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: people to like cause chaos and to like do fires
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: and all sorts of things like purposefully causing food shortages
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: and economic problems and stuff like that. And so like
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: they admitted, they admitted it, and they said that it
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: was basically like you have to cause a bunch of
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: chaos to kind of topple a foundation. And so there's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: so much chaos and disorder that people will accept whatever
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: you whatever kind of stability you present to them. You know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: it's like they would never accept the changes that you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: want to make in their cushy lives. It's like you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: have to make them. You have to destroy that, right, And.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: What was the primary method, what was the primary method
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: of spreading that chaos? It was these silly little cartoons
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: that they had in the form of these pamphlets that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: made fun of the you know, the queen and the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: king and all the rest of the stuff, until people
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: had lost all sense of decency, right, So they were
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: body little comic strips that they were passing out among people,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: and it was just like, yeah, look, they're so indecent
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But they were just comic strips, right. I mean,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing as like World War One and
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: the you know, babies on bayonets, just equally as ridiculous.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: And all they were doing was trying to whip up
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: a frenzy and get the people to riot.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: It's the order out of chaos. It's kind of what
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: they've been doing for a thousand years. But they do it,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: you know, in many ways, as we're seeing right now
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: from all angles, especially in the political field. It's kind
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: of insane. It's kind of hilarious though, if you don't
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: align with any of them, you just look back and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: just kind of laugh. Unfortunately, it affects everybody though.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: So I think it's funny because it's like they're poking
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: at us, like they're trying so hard to get people
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: to revolt, but people are so like lazy and like,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: honestly in positions where it's not like most people could
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: revolt even if they wanted to. It's like, I don't know,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: but it's kind of funny, and I know the Armenian
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: Revolution also, like the Mason's orchestrated that, and yeah, that
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: was kind of disturbing. They just crucified a bunch of people.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: In contrast, we have the Roman part riot. So this
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: is what happened if you tried to start riots in
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: ancient Rome. So the term part riot refers to a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: historical incident in seventy five AD where a Roman soldier's
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: public part and disrespectful gesture in Jerusalem during the pass
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: of a festival insided the riot that resulted in approximately
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: ten thousand deaths. According to the Hystorian Josephus, the soldier
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: pulled back his garment and cowered down in an incident manner,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and turned his breech to the Jews and fixed such
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: words as you might expect to part such a posture.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, man, based.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: On fart one part to rule them a thousands? That's crazy.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: Who were the dead?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Definitely? Who do you think who had the spears?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Fuck? Oh man?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: Good times.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting times.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Anything else. He goes ahead to talk.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: About everybody watch my show in the morning.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, go check that out.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: Tom tom Cat from Strange Brew is going to be
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: coming on at ten o'clock. I don't know why I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: chooses to do it so early, but that's okay. Uh Canadians,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: what can I say? And uh? So we're moving es
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: so Terry book review to uh Sunday morning occult symbolism
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: of birds and fish? I think, yeah, maybe I'm pretty
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: sure it's Sunday morning and then Veritas Road is going
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: on Sunday. I think I had a whole lot of
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: people book with me this month and this next month guys,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: so got a lot of got a lot of grateful
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: show's got a lot of Uh. There was a time
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: where I wasn't really doing that many of them, but
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: I just didn't really have I don't have any guts.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: I have a way for people to book with me,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 5: you know, so unorganized. But anyway, are we doing plugs?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: Do I just need to plug?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: What's your show tomorrow? What's it about?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: What strangeerw with with? Are you talking about with Tom Kat?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: Uh? The one at ten am?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: Well at an am. It's just it's his first time.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: We've done a lot of swapcast together on different things.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: We did a couple on the protocols of the others
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: of Zion and uh, stuff on like the Ananaki and stuff,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: and uh, he's just gonna come on and we're just
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: gonna hang out. He's just a friend of mine. But
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: we'll probably get into talking about Canadian nationalism and uh,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: what what's happening in his country, And he's going to
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: talk about this shadow experience that he had when when
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: he was I think on mushrooms one time. So that's
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: gonna be cool. Those are always fun stories to hear about.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: But it's his first time coming on my show as
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: like a guest, so it's kind of like, you know,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: long overdue. But yeah, you know, I don't know. Sometimes
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: I just bring people on and don't really have subjects,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: and it turns out they turn out to be bangers.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I kind of sometimes people come
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: on and I'll have a set subject where we talk
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: about stuff, but sometimes it's just like a shoot the
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: shit interview and we end up talking about twenty different
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: things and no, no, but but yeah, anyway, guys follow
• 1:30:49
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• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: of stuff over there. I just sent out sticker packs
• 1:31:03
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• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: sticker in that pack as well, so yeah, uh dude,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna try and print some more. Mind I may
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: try and print some of ours as well. So you
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: were talking, you talking about that rose design. Uh, that's
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: but on a shirt. That'd be cool on a sticker, Yeah, definitely.
• 1:31:28
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• 1:31:48
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• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: good Turkey day and ate a lot and spend time
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: with their families.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And if you were to find me, I'm I'm
• 1:32:04
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• 1:32:08
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• 1:32:10
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• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: interviews and stuff from this summit out there in Scottsdale.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: Last time I was in Arizona. Yeah, the wolf bitches
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: as well. So last time I was in Arizona, I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: went to go see the Hopie out in Old Rivy,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the oldest continuously lived in town in the United States
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: this time going back to talk about it.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fun. Nice, Thank you so and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: the error.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to find me, you can find
• 1:32:42
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• 1:32:47
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• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: on Twitter at aeros to Ethos.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: You'll be seeing her a lot more. Hopefully she'll be
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: coming on with us a lot more. Yeah, hanging out
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: with the big boys.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Learn about astrology.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: Let's set that up and my wife would probably want
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: to come on for that. She's gonna start coming on
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: for some of these shows as well. Guys, babel on podcast,
• 1:33:14
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• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: tonight is at my mother in law's. I don't know,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: y'all get at me if y'all want me to, we'll
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: make it happen.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that one movie, The.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Erase Her Head.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: The Lost Highway Highway.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking about that or blue velvet more slow.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: So I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I should
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: put a poll out there.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Sorry nick, uh, real quick, I don't want to mention
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: the shows that we actually I do have tomorrow.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: It's horrible. I actually forgot about it. We have a
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: big tea Mims. I don't even know how to say
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: his name.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: He's he's kind of like an Instagram Uh, he's one
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  Speaker 3: of those Instagram accounts that guy kind of like popular,
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  Speaker 3: and he he's in New York and he I mean,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: he worse accent than mine.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he could definitely tell. This guy's probably from
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  Speaker 2: fucking Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 3: And he goes around and he films like he's got
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: a good case, and it is like, you know, out
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: of all the times I've looked at it, it was like,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: oh wow, that's some weird a cult architecture I've never
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: really looked at, like the size of the shit. And
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: he kind of starts like showing this stuff and the
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: dates and maybe even the stories about how it was built,
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, can you please tell.
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  Speaker 2: Me how this makes fucking sense? This is even here?
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  Speaker 3: Like even when he shows like one of the bridges
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  Speaker 3: I never knew the story. Like the guy died like
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  Speaker 3: halfway through the fucking construction, and somehow his wife, over
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  Speaker 3: listening to the fucking dude, was able to finish the
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: bridge by hearing how it was built. That's fine, we
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: come on. I mean, the lady literally finished the bridge
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: overhearing her husband talked to somebody about it. Get the
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I don't buy that. I don't buy them. Sorry, you know,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, he's these weird you know,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: like I think I forgot it wasn't the Empire State
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: Building supposedly built in two years two If you start
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: looking at the dates, it's like that, what the fuck
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: out was that possible?
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Just very weird.
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  Speaker 3: So he has like a lot of like weird like
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: religious even like showing cops stations that have like looked
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: like fucking castles in the city, you know, and stuff
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: in like DC and Philly as well. Really interesting guy,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: funny as fuck. It should be fun. I think we
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: got him coming on tomorrow at eight o'clock and then
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: this I'm really excited about. It's pretty I mean, I'll
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: be totally honest with There's people in the eco.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Community there is even asking me how the fuck do
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: you get this guy on the show.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: We got Ike Baker coming on Sunday, and he is
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: like he's in the Hermitic Order of the Golden Dawn.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: He's also in the Martinists.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: He's also involved with and I think he still might
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: be in the Blue Lodge and the York Right Freemasonry.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: This guy has been around for like twenty years. He's
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: got his own show.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: And I'm to be here for that. Nick.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so this guy is well known and uh, real,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: real crazy is that he grew up in Suffolk County
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: and he moved to North Carolina like me, So it's
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: pretty fucking bizarre. We were we were talking, he was like, yeah,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: I just moved here from New York as well. I
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: was like from where he was, like, Suffolk count I
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: was like, get the fuck out of here. That is
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: bugged the fuck. That's where I grew up. So it
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: was really weird, So it should be really cool. So yeah,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: definitely looking forward to uh both those uh.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: Those guests this weekend.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: So if people can check those out, definitely check it out.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: Definitely check out your Ross channel, Jules, check out Hellas's.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: Definitely check out Jewles's bookshit too. That shit's fun, so
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: check it out. So you're switching that to Sundays, you said.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: Well, it's Sunday this week because because Tom booked tomorrow morning,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: they're usually Saturday morning guys es. So Terry book review
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: this week we are doing Hall's treaties on occult symbolism
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: of animals. So this is one of the first books
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: I got into on Gray pilled a couple of years ago.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: I understand it a lot a lot better now, So
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun. A lot of stuff for you, headless,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: I think, and and here, uh, a lot of Pliny
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: and uh in, a lot of quotes from a lot
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: of Greek philosophers and stuff.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: So I just got I just got the book Water
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: Wizard by Victor Schauberger, and he talks all about fish
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: and how they have certain vortexes that go on the
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: outside of their body that allow them to propel through water.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: So that would be.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: Nice hoortals man. That's how Damien Eckle says, you communicate
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: with art with archangel Gabriel is through water, so take
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: his forard, I I guess. But uh, he has that
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: weird book on Enoki and magic. I may have looked
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: through it at Barnes and Noble anyway, anyway, yes.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: Check it out, you rail check it out, and uh yeah,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: I guess that's the end of this one. Thank you
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: everybody in the chat. That's what's up. I've been seeing
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: some newer names that have been coming quite often. I
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: really appreciate that. Uh there's a lot more people that
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: are actually into the occult and I think actually practice it.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: I do appreciate that, and I appreciate any comments you
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: can help leave to help maybe educate or just give
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: you a theory on things as well. I always appreciate
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: people adding that's why we go live as well, and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: again appreciate everybody coming by. And that's the end of
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: this one. Until the next one. Everybody be well later.