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1097 - BONUS Interview with Chloe of 90 Day Fiancé: The Other Way · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to pink Shade now you guys. I
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  Speaker 1: cover ninety Day the other way over on pink Shade Prime, Patreon, Supercast, Apple, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I cover it over there with Kimberly every Friday and
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  Speaker 1: our standouts of the current season. I'm ninety day Toe
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  Speaker 1: in addition to our faves Jenny and Submit. There's some
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  Speaker 1: great people over there. It's a great gast. But the
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  Speaker 1: standout to us has been all season is Chloe of
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  Speaker 1: Chloe and Johnny. That is our neck tatted pirate. And
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  Speaker 1: after seeing what Chloe went through with Johnny at this
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  Speaker 1: tell all, I was like, I gotta talk to this girl.
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  Speaker 1: So here she is, guys, here's Chloe to talk to
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  Speaker 1: us about it.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Chloe dying about your one liners at the tell all.
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  Speaker 2: It's so just impulsive. I don't even know where I
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  Speaker 2: get them from.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, Well, when you have a Brazilian teenager calling you
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  Speaker 1: a whore, I mean what, Please explain to me why
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  Speaker 1: she was so mad at you. She had so much
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  Speaker 1: anger towards you, Like You're like, Hi, I'm Chloe, and
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  Speaker 1: she's like horror, You're like what I think?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's totally a jealousy thing. Yeah, I mean it
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  Speaker 2: has to be where similar in age, So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I think like another attractive female, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of tension in the room. Girls are so catty. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it really just stems from jealousy. That's what I
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  Speaker 2: keep telling myself because there's literally like no other reason
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 1: You've never like posted anything negative about her or she
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  Speaker 1: found out like you and Luke hooked up like there's nothing,
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  Speaker 1: there's no backstory.
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  Speaker 2: Never. I think what triggered it must have been how
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  Speaker 2: Luke and I were in the same color. We did
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  Speaker 2: not planned that. I don't know how that happened, but
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  Speaker 2: it was spot on. So I think she saw that
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  Speaker 2: and was like, oh, they must be talking.
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  Speaker 1: But never, No, that is so funny. Okay, tell me
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  Speaker 1: how you got cast on the show. Initially it was
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  Speaker 1: it like it was like a full year ago, like
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  Speaker 1: two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. So I think this would be twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, Okay, I want to say February, No, December.
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  Speaker 2: It was the late twenty twenty four, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because it's been so long. And my friend Jen, she
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  Speaker 2: was on the show with me when I was in Boston,
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  Speaker 2: she was actually applying for the regular ninety day and
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  Speaker 2: she was like, you guys should totally apply for the
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  Speaker 2: other way, like, you guys have a great story. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if my vibe like I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I need to put this on TV for
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  Speaker 2: valid reasons. Yeah, And we ended up. I ended up
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  Speaker 2: not telling Johnny at all. I filled out the form
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  Speaker 2: in bed randomly, and I think within a few days
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  Speaker 2: they had reached out to me and they were like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we love this like storyline. Can we jump on a call?
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  Speaker 2: And then after that call, it just started moving so
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  Speaker 2: quick and I got a call on the boat. They
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  Speaker 2: were like, hey, I just want to congratulate you, like
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  Speaker 2: you're officially cast on seasons. And I'm like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: What I just had you told Johnny at that point yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because we obviously had to do interviews together and like separately,
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  Speaker 2: so he at that point knew he was totally on board.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, gonna make some money, get some fans, like
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  Speaker 2: how can I say no?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Right, right right? And what's random is you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Reddit community and the and the fandom of ninety
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  Speaker 1: days so huge. They spotted that he had been on
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  Speaker 1: it before in the background Tanya was in Aruba.
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  Speaker 2: Which is so funny because I mean, I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: not something you bring up like on a first date.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I had no idea read it
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  Speaker 2: was actually where I was getting that information. I had
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  Speaker 2: no idea he was on like The Single Life or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was before.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, And when you asked him it was
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  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, it was just like a show they
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  Speaker 1: were filming. I didn't even like clock it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He so he was like, oh, I forgot, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: how do you How do you forget you're on TV?
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, now I did read speaking to Reddit, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I clear up this rumor. I read on Reddit that
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  Speaker 1: when you guys went on the show, all of this
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  Speaker 1: like you met on the boat and then you left
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  Speaker 1: again and all that is not exactly completely right. I
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  Speaker 1: read that both of you guys were working at a
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  Speaker 1: bar in Aruba, next door to each other, and that's
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  Speaker 1: how you met.
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  Speaker 2: No. So where he takes off his boat like set
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  Speaker 2: sail in the mornings, there's a bar at a beach bar,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like working kind of like working there,
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  Speaker 2: trying to work there, and when I would be at
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  Speaker 2: the bar, it's like the same pier. Yeah, but we
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  Speaker 2: truly did actually meet on the pirate ship when I
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  Speaker 2: was on vacation with my best friend Sophia. We really
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  Speaker 2: did like a raw meet. My friend was like, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna love this guy. We have to do this pirate
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  Speaker 2: boat and I'm like, I'm not going to love anyone,
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  Speaker 2: Like I just want to like literally drink all day long. Yeah, ball,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't have any interest. And then we went
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  Speaker 2: on the boat for the excursion and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: who is this Like at the time, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I literally don't know what I was thinking, but I
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  Speaker 2: thought he was like the world.
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  Speaker 1: your mother felt about Johnny. Okay, now you mentioned the friend.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the one the friend that was on the
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  Speaker 1: first episode that was like driving two hours to come
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  Speaker 1: and warn you.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was Jen, my best friend, Sophia. She's like
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  Speaker 2: my hometown.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, friend forever.
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  Speaker 2: That's who ended up taking me to Aruba.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. The girl that was driving, it's like, I'm driving
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  Speaker 1: two hours to Yen. We were calling her Alanis Morrisset
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  Speaker 1: because she because she looked like the Alana's Morissett video
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  Speaker 1: of his Nadarana. She had the hat on. She's driving
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  Speaker 1: in the snow and she's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I need to tell her that. Well, she'll see
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  Speaker 2: this because she's like a ninety day fanatic.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, okay that we thought she was layers. We're like,
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  Speaker 1: why is she driving two hours? Couldn't she just FaceTime?
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  Speaker 2: Like, man, I the way that we do things for
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  Speaker 2: this TV is crazy. But okay, you can drive in
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  Speaker 2: a snowstorm. It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of snowstorm, you're in Boston, I am, Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the DC area. So it's like, just like, please,
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  Speaker 1: could I get out of my driveway today?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think we have more coming?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I think you guys do. I think we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be all right? Okay, is your mom? Is your mom
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  Speaker 1: at home? Or is she in Florida?
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  Speaker 2: So she's home here right now. But we actually leave Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: We're taking a girl's road trip and I'm driving her
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  Speaker 2: down to Florida literally Saturday morning before this snowstorm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, got you? Yeah, she's moving to Florida, you said
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  Speaker 1: on the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I'm just so sad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, good for her.
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  Speaker 2: She needs it.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like she works hard and she needs a break.
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  Speaker 2: She does. She needs she needs more than a break,
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  Speaker 2: she needs multiple breaks.
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  Speaker 1: Is she so happy that all of this played out
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  Speaker 1: the way it did, and even though you got your
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  Speaker 1: heart broken that it was over.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever had so much support from
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  Speaker 2: literally anyone. If I chose to say my mom would
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  Speaker 2: have found the positive in it. But I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the ideal situation for her. You know, I'm home,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting my crap together. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not with a pirate anymore. I'm like saving my money.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not like calling her being like he literally cheated again.
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  Speaker 2: Do you believe this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And she's like, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, how do you not believe it? Like, what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: But she's happy, she's proud of me, and I think
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  Speaker 2: at the end of this show, I've gotten so much
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  Speaker 2: support that she's like, oh my gosh, she's through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's been incredible. So okay, let's see are
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  Speaker 1: you okay? So the girls you hung out with the Roo,
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  Speaker 1: but we saw Maria. She came to the tell all
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  Speaker 1: and what was the other girl's name?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, who who?
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  Speaker 1: I like, I don't remember Maria and another girl came
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  Speaker 1: to meet you at the bar and they were both like,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? We call her Kamila.
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  Speaker 1: Camilla yeah, because I was like, is it Kamila? Is
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  Speaker 1: it Kamila? Is it? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: It is. We just we call her Kamila.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, and are those girls so happy that you finally
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  Speaker 1: saw the light?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean they're happy that I woke
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  Speaker 2: up from my nightmare. They're definitely sad that I chose
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  Speaker 2: to leave and like didn't stay. But I once I visited,
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  Speaker 2: I have gone back and I have seen them and
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  Speaker 2: it's been great. They showed support throughout the whole show too,
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  Speaker 2: so I think they're happy. They know this is where
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  Speaker 2: I belong and this is where I'll thrive, not on
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  Speaker 2: an island the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Now we all have to discuss another big topic topic
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  Speaker 1: on the internet, which was your hair. Okay, let's discuss
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  Speaker 1: your super blonde hair in Aruba. This is how we did.
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  Speaker 1: We loved you when one of the first episodes came
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  Speaker 1: out and people were saying stuff about your super blonde hair,
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  Speaker 1: and you went on social media and did like a
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  Speaker 1: whole post about like do you think I don't know?
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  Speaker 1: You're like, it's like a whole thing. You're like, do
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  Speaker 1: you think I don't know? Like I know? It was
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  Speaker 1: We were like Okay, now we like her because anybody
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  Speaker 1: that like can't take a joke or like I can't
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  Speaker 1: fuck with them, but anybody they came, it's we were dying.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about your hair journey and what was happening
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  Speaker 1: with the hair in Aruba.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I've been waiting for this, so a few
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  Speaker 2: years ago, I like, I've always been doing highlights, and
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  Speaker 2: probably like a year prior to moving to Aruba, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna go full like playboy bunny blonde, like,
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  Speaker 2: let's just do it. I thankfully I'm Italian. I have
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  Speaker 2: very thick hair, so my hair was thriving. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I was in America, I had like warm water, cold water.
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  Speaker 2: It was going great. When I went to Aruba, I
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  Speaker 2: noticed that my hair being in like obviously the sun
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  Speaker 2: it's blazing. Then I'm in the salt water every like
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  Speaker 2: mind you every day. Yeah, it was getting a little brittle,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm like, it's fine, just throw some conditioner in it.
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  Speaker 2: It took a turn for the worst, I've guessed. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I had to keep up like.
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  Speaker 1: My appearance to be the same filming.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so they didn't give me the option to
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh, like let's focus on your health of
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  Speaker 2: your hair. Let's just keep bleaching it. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so my hair was legitimately falling out. I couldn't wait
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  Speaker 2: to put some K eighteen or some nice expensive conditioner
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  Speaker 2: in my hair. And ye dark in it, like I
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  Speaker 2: really did want to fix it. And I'm like listening
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  Speaker 2: to these people bash me, and I'm like, girl, you
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  Speaker 2: realize I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Like it can't. Once you started with that hair, you
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  Speaker 1: had to go with it all the way through because
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't change it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so it it. I mean, you can't be
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  Speaker 2: a bleach blonde in those conditions unless you're natural. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm obviously not a natural blonde. That was
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  Speaker 2: very unnatural. So I mean it's better now. It's very dark. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: died it last week, so having an identity crisis, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's I think it looks. It looks great. When we
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  Speaker 1: first started seeing you on the internet doing these like
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  Speaker 1: videos and stuff in your kitchen, you were like, you
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  Speaker 1: just wait and see what's coming. I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: her hair looks like her hair, Like you could tell
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  Speaker 1: this is what your hair is supposed to look like.
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  Speaker 1: And we were all like Okay, I guess that she
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I was trying to take up for you.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, here's what I think happened. I think
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  Speaker 1: your hair was sort of a light brown and then
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  Speaker 1: it just bleached out in the sun when she was
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  Speaker 1: in a Aruba, and my clos was like, no, sun's
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  Speaker 1: going to do that from root to tip to your hair.
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  Speaker 2: I literally wish that I haven't even saved me so
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  Speaker 2: much fun.
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  Speaker 1: I was dying, I said, Okay, so I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I had to ask you about it because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is such a topic conversation When I told people
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  Speaker 1: I was interviewing, are you going to ask her what
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  Speaker 1: was the deal with her hair?
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait. I'm like, I hope she asked me straight,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not just like purposely ruining my hare for fun.
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  Speaker 1: But again, like you're so like young and cute and
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  Speaker 1: like why not, you know, why not? Okay, Now we
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  Speaker 1: have to applaud you for sitting through Johnny's gaslighting tactics
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  Speaker 1: on that last episode, like the way that he tried
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  Speaker 1: so many different ways. So you walk in and when
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  Speaker 1: I said he first he gave you the smolder, he
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  Speaker 1: gave you the halloy.
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  Speaker 2: He always does that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, and I what I said
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  Speaker 1: was like, this is obviously something that's worked for him
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  Speaker 1: in the past. I guess he got out of whatever
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  Speaker 1: he was in by giving her the hate girl, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and usually she fell for it, but in this case,
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  Speaker 1: she did it. And the way that he kept trying
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  Speaker 1: to turn it around on you, and what you said
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  Speaker 1: at the tell all was like you actually like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, maybe it is me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I need to literally seek help because he
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  Speaker 2: must have like a We've obviously had multiple arguments in
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  Speaker 2: certain things, like with the way he speaks. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's being I'm you know, I can't even believe we're
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  Speaker 2: having this argument. I'm so sorry. It's my bad. And
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  Speaker 2: then I think afterwards, I'm like, oh my god, I
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  Speaker 2: did do That's like, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was masterful. But I did love that
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  Speaker 1: at that you know, last argument, that when he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you went through my phone and you go fucking cry
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  Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, that's right, that's the best.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, you're so immature, And then I
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  Speaker 1: could see that You're like, am I immateure?
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  Speaker 2: Like wait, I know I know.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, I just applaud you for forgetting through it. Now
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  Speaker 1: we did find out it to tell all that you
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  Speaker 1: later went back that night. But again.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, I'm so unfortunately, way too honest,
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  Speaker 2: I think sometimes and I mean, I want to be relatable,
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  Speaker 2: but it's very hard when this is my first time
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  Speaker 2: on TV, this is my first time putting my relationship
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  Speaker 2: on TV. You have celebrities in the limelight for years
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  Speaker 2: who choose not to put their relationships on TV. So
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  Speaker 2: for me to do this and this was very real,
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  Speaker 2: very raw. No one told us what to say. So
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  Speaker 2: when we actually were breaking up in that scene, I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: felt like just I left and had so much more
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: that we ended up needing to talk about and just
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: get out because I really was leaving in a day
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: or two and I'm like, I need to get this
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: out for me. Yeah, And then I mean, things just
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: spiral and then you're like, great, Glad I did that,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Like glad I got one lass out. Good job.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Well It's funny because when when they said, like, was
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that the last time you saw each other, and I
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I already know what the answer is.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. It's totally fine, it's normal.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We've I'm sure we've all done it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: We've all done it. We've all done it, and all
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of us, like you know, older ladies are watching you,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: going yeah yeah, even though he was in horror person,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: we've all would have gone back to.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: You have to the just for the plot.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Just one more time. Yeah, now, okay, please explain Madeline
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and the screaming and as as the tell all goes on,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: she's screaming at you the whole time. Only one time
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: did she say like okay, Chloe was right. But the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: rest of the time and it was maniacal, she was
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: like cackling and laughing and throwing her body around like.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: That noise was I was so confused by that. I've
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: never heard a human make noises like that in my
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: entire life.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And then she's trying to say that like Luke likes you,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and literally he was just trying to like take up
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for you. Now, listen, I do know you enjoy a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: pirated tattooed guy, but I can't imagine that you like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a guy in a velvet coat with gold earrings.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: That was definitely a choice. I mean, I didn't tell
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: him and ask him why he owes that. But again,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I can't knock them like he was feeling himself and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. That wouldn't have been my choice.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Definitely not not my type.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Some people are like, oh, you know, Chloe and Luke
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: should get together. I'm like, no, if she likes the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: guy with the neck tattoo that works on a boat,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: she's not gonna like that guy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It's like polar oppotions. And people actually say that we
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: look alike. And this was like a Reddit thread and
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: at the Tello someone actually brought it up to me like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you guys like literally look like siblings, and morphed a
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: photo of us together.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was sick.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna literally, first of all, be sick. There's no
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: way he look like that first off, like.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Together with like this like back hair and the gold
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: earrings and yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It's so weird. I can't know.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: People. People loved it. Oh it's so funny. Okay, let's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: talk about the sugar baby thing that came up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, now you are twenty three, twenty five? How old
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I am twenty four right now?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty four? Okay, so when you were with this guy
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that they were saying like you were a sugar baby.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He was like ten years older than you.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I think at the time. Yeah, probably like ten, maybe
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: maybe like eleven.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so same as Johnny. Really.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to go unfortunately for older men because
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I just don't like to babysit. But again, I mean they.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Would always turn out right now, okay, And so this guy,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the guy that was older that was sending you money.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: First of all, I loved how Dylan just with a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: hot take from the side, was like, just take the money,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Like who cares.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: For literally, right, money's money.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I love Dylan Ifetier over there, like we're strippers. We
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: think you should just take them.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got best out look kind of even Grete
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: was like, girl, I probably had one to at one point,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, good.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I love it. Johnny was trying to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: like shave you about it and make you feel bad,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but it didn't go in his favor at all.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And the for like sake of Timeline, now that I
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: can like actually be like, let me explain myself.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, no one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Cuts anything out. Yes, Yeah, So that situation had actually
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: happened like probably within the first weeks that I met Johnny.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: And we were at my apartment because I did have
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: an apartment at one time that I was renting. And
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: this is like basically right after my vacation era, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like in the shower and I leave my phone
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: on my bed and Johnny was reading messages between me
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: and my ex. The sugar Daddy got it in my
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: ex and I were I mean, I've known him forever.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We're unfortunately still very close, and he was just being like, oh,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: like you should get that, Like comes from a very
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: wealthy family, you should get this, you should get that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He had paid for one of my fights home and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: we were just having conversation, but Johnny and I actually
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: weren't together, and he went through my phone then and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: found it and was, yeah, you.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Just do it. Sounds like you kind of just met
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: him or just started hanging out or whatever.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: And it had probably been not even like three weeks
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: this occurred, and it just spiraled and he was like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I can't be with somebody who's having someone send them money,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: who's old. And I'm like, where.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: He's your safe age?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Really, you're actually older than him. I think at this point,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like how is this happening? Yeah, it was like a
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: quick fight. And then when it got brought up on
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the Tell, I was like, wow, you have to make
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: things up because you have nothing on me, and.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He's bringing up something from when you guys first met
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and we're definitely not together.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, how dare you put my business on blasts?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: First of all, like, yeah, I would never, I literally would,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean I would, but yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because he brought it up at the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: at like a at a you know, talking head at
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, that he had caught you
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with texting with some guy. But then he never, ever, ever, ever,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: once never brought it up again, not to your mother,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: not to your friends. And I kept thinking, if she
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: really did that, he would be like, she cheated too.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But he never brought it up so and it never
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: not once, not even when your guys had that fight.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Because I kept going, oh, here's where he's gonna say
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you cheated too. He never said it, So I was like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: so it was interesting that he brought it up at
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the Tall because you're right, he was getting pounded on,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: so he was like, oh, well she had a she
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: had a sugar daddy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He needed to deflect it, which I mean when I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: if I had that many people pissed off me, I
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: would probably throw some stuff out there too. But I mean,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: it's it's so hard when you film for timeline things,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: you end up bringing old things in, you know, just
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: because it's it's good for the story, like it did happen.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It's drama. So I think people don't realize that a
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: lot of this stuff wasn't like really when we were filming.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It was so long ago.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But he just.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Didn't bring it up because he's probably like, this doesn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: even matter, but here we go.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I will say regard going back to Luke, I will
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: say that when when Luke said to Johnny, like, man,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you mess up, all I could think is like Luke
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: is thinking, Okay, what if I would have met Chloe
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: because her mom actually has money. It could have invested
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: in some money in some of these projects that he's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: got going on. Yes, in Columbia, so many products, sunglasses, earrings, resorts, hotels.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm like, girl, a hotel, Like, you must
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: really have money. That's a lot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: When they showed on the show that they went to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the top of this like incredibly gorgeous view, and then
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we were like, first of all, why has no one
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: ever built anything there before? I thought the same thing,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: like is this like a national park and you're not
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: allowed to build anything there? And did this architect like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: printed off of Canva?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Like what are we doing Canva?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I really was so confused seeing that, and we actually
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: talked about his like projects or something like quite recently
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: he reached out to me and say, hey, what do
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you think of this plan? Like would you be down
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to invest? And I was like, no, I do not
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: need to be like robbed, and like, I know you
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: are on your own. I don't even think I actually answered.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I feel bad.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people say that all of their
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: wedding and all that stuff is all just like super
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: fake and they're not actually married and they haven't been
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: together for a long time, and I don't know what's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: real with them. All I know is she's unhinged. But
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, but he you know, like we say, like
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: no woman ever drove herself crazy. Maybe he has pushed
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: her to the point where she's unhinged. I don't know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know too much about them because Madeline like
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: drives me up a wall. So I don't even need
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: to go stock her social media because I will I
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: will literally like pass away. I can't look at it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: But I do see her post things like on boats
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: and like with other guys, and I'm like, he isn't
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: like with him. I actually don't know, but I try
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to do some two deck to work.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's all TBD. Maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to be on other seasons, you know, sometimes we see
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that coming from a mile away.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know what they have going on. They broke
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: up like seventeen thousand times and got back to her
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: like during the tell all, like I can't do this anymore.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I really can't.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: During the toe all, okay. Manan also came out and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: did a post and said that yes, she blocked every
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: single person from the cast except for you because you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: were the only one that was nice to her. And
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: we did see that you were the one. We were
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: laughing so hard because they're in there fighting and she's like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I want a divorce and I can do these and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you walk in. You're like, girl, it's me, It's king.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, well, what's just happening?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I feel so bad. I that's gonna be really hard.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's like, marriage life is like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: And I don't want to speak on behalf of what
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: they were feeling, but I do know that, I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: tens are really high when you're filming. There's a lot
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: of emotions. And I really am like so glad that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: people have picked up on the fact that I'm such
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: a girl's girl. I mean, I don't care if I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: don't know you, if I've known you forever, like I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: will always be there for a girl, and I just
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I did. I wanted to check in and we message
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: still to this day, you know, just checking with each
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: other emotions like relationships stuff, because I mean it's not
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: easy when you have when you're on stage and you
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: have a bunch of people picking, like and prodding at you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It's I mean it really it hurts a girl's ego.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think Manan she's another one that
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: she and Anthony have done a lot of like social
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: media posting that make you kind of like, Okay, they're funny,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: they're in on the joke, or she sees that she
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: was act to look when she said she was running
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for the mayor of her town, and I was like, girl,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the way they're going to roll that footage on you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: calling it the asshole of the world.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: They're gonna pull it up in the background.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she has called our town the asshole of France.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Do you want this girl to be the mayor?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm so funny. She's powerful. She I mean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: she could do it, but she's gonna have to win
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: everyone over.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: For some reason, I kind of feel like she could.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I kind of really good. I don't know.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: She's just like she just doesn't take shit. She really doesn't.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: That's like what inspires me about her. She doesn't care,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Like I don't want.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: That and I won't do it. Were you a fan
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: of the show and the fact that did you know
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the giny and submit of it all? So?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't watch ninety Day too much prior to
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: being cast, but I didn't know of them only because
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: they've been on it for quite some times. I'm familiar
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: with them, but I actually wasn't. It's so funny. It
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: wasn't like a die hard fan. I am now, yeah, biased,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: but I definitely am a fan now.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Their story is so crazy and it's so funny. Because
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I met Jenny in person at the TLC Christmas party
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that was in New York and Genny was there. And
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of all these years been covering every every episode from
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: episode one, every iteration, I've covered every single one, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to see Genny in person is like seeing like a unicorn.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: She's the sweetest though, like I just love her. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: love her to death.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: But she's pretty short. And then at the end of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the tell all, when you guys were leaving and you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: walked up and she goes, girl, you're so short, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I had on choes earlier. I'm like, now,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm at Jenny and she's short. How
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: short it's Chloe to Jenny to think Chloe.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I am literally four eleven. People don't stop it. People
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: don't realize is that I think? I mean, I can't
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: really remember if anybody in the cast was that tall,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: but I am very like very short.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why you were like a college cheerleader.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's easy to like throw around around. Yeah yeah, no,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: it makes sense. Had to be had to be on
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: top for sure.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, because I was thinking like so
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like barely five five, which is pretty short. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then I met Jenny. I was like, holy cow, Jenny,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you're shorter than I thought. And then Genny said Chloe
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: was short. I was like, wow, we're just gone.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm literally probably I don't know, maybe I'm
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: one of the shortest cast actually, definitely, because I don't
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: think Greta's kind of tall.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: What Okay, Greta is so interesting. So we you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Greta and Matthew and their quiet breakup and everything is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like ASMR. I mean it's like, I what, what was
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: your vibe on her? Because I know you brought her
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a glass straw, which was a good move.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I really love Greta. I think she's definitely shy,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: but she has goals and she has things that she
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: really wants to work on. She's very passionate about and
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I really honestly respect that. And then, you know, my
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: life is like shambles. She at least knows what she wants.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I just can't relate to a breakup
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: like that, only because I am so loud, so powerful
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that I'm like, how did you not just like like
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: smack him? Like how I'm like sitting there, I'm like.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: How did you not smack her? I mean, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: because she's like four days. When they said on the show,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: when he said it's only been four days, I was like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: four days. We've been watching these people for three months
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and she's only been there four days.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe a bit of an impulse, but I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: honestly don't see them or it didn't see them being
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: compatible really at all.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Listen, we said the minute she got first of all,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that he didn't pick her up at the airport and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: had her take a train.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That was would have been done.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And then she's traveled for two solid days and the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: first thing you say is you have BO. I'd be like,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a punch.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I would have done.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got BO. I've traveled for two days. If
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you would have picked me up from the airport yesterday,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have smelled.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I honestly, now that you just said, I totally actually forgot.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: He did not pick her up, told her to take
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a train from the airport to his village.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: No village is making me, no.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: No Jodah. Go to Heathrow, pick her up, go to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a nice hotel for two nights alone. Then take her
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to your village. That's how you do it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I know, straight into a village. I probably would have
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: left to Honestly, the village life isn't for me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: God well, you know to ask him an it's not
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: for her either.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It's about a village man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now, so this second part of the tell All,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta discuss this. Okay. So the first
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: part you killed it. You were our hero. Everybody clapped.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: People even people didn't even care about the whole sugar
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but everything They're like, who gives a shit? That guy
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: was so awful to her caro all no, no, not
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: one person was like wow. She's like I can't believe
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, good for you, girl, do it good for you?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly? Do it to check on it?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Okay at okay. At the end of the second part
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: of the tell All, you know, you kind of circle
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: every you know, Sean circles back around yep, and she's like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: so what's next for you guys whatever? And Johnny starts
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: doing this like I don't know, our sex is so good,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Like I take her back if she came back, I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: take her back. And you're like huh and that was weird,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and the whole stage was like, get out of here.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Like nobody again, just like
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: he gasled you when you would to see him.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: He's got issues.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: When he in the house was brating you, telling you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you a shit, I don't want you, you're gross, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you're like, then we said it was like Memento, which
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: is a movie you don't know because you're too young,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: But it's like his brain when he walked out the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: front door is like his brain switched and he became
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a different person. And then he's like, what are you doing?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Why are you leaving? I would take you back and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you're like, did you forget? You just told her in
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the house you ain't shit.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I mean he needs to see definitely like a psychiatrist
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: because he has to truly like there that has to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: be unpacked by a professional.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Like all the mood changes and then I will say,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: let me give you another props the minute. And I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: don't know how you know what out of order this
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: was shot or whatever, but it appeared when you first
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: walked into the house for the breakup and you're like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I just want to get my stuff, I just want
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to do this that's the basic do what Chloe and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you said. You said, first of all, I want to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: say to you, I am sorry, like what I said
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: about your mother, I should have never said any of
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that that was wrong. So this is you walked in
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: before he even said it. You said, I want to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: apologize for something I said that was wrong. That was wrong.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said it. Yes, which was like, Okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: she put it out there. She did a real apology.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: She didn't say if you were hurt, I'm sorry. You
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just said flat out I was wrong.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry exactly. I mean, it was something when you're mad,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: like you say things totally in the moment, and it
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: definitely got like brought out of context. But I mean,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that's like. I'm very close with
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: my mom, so I did actually feel you know, I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: did feel really bad, and I have no shame in
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: being like, oh my god, I should not have said that.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm so yeah, and that was hard. Somebody did like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I sorry, sorry at the end of the day.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: So you kind of put it out there, I'm sorry.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Now he was doing a lot of like if you
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: saw this, I'm sorry, but you're wrong for looking at
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: my phone, it's trying to run. You know all of that, right,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So he's doing all of that. He's doing all of that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Then you guys like, fully fully break up. You have
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: on last fling, then you leave, Okay, you're totally broken
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: up at the tall all. You haven't seen this man
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: in seven months. He just is like, sure, I take
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: her back, Psycho, and everybody's like what. But then Sean
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is saying, like, so, what's going on, Like are you
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: guys dating other people? Like what are you doing, Johnny?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Have you found somebody new? And he just kind of goes, well,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, Lena, and everybody's gonna
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: kill me. Don't kill me. So we thought he's gonna
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: say he's dating Maria or something.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: We're like everyone was saying that too. I actually thought
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: they were they like they had hooked up when I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: first met them. I really did.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: When he said don't kill me, I thought he's gonna, oh,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I'm dating that girl Kamila.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Ex, someone someone.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That you knew that had told you to stay away
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: from him, and he's gonna be like, that's my new girl.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But what he said was not only was he dating
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: somebody knew that she's pregnant and they're having a baby
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: in March. And you literally you literally did not know this.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: No, this is not a clue. No, people really don't.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Like they were like she knew, Like this is so staged.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That was the first time that I had heard that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We have heard like rumors. Yeah, because Rube is so small,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, like he's dating that girl again. I'm like, great,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, go back to your roots. Like I don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: know whatever, but that I mean, I'm pretty sure my
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: jaw must have been opened for like literally fifteen minutes.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like so embarrassed, but I I like didn't have words,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: like how did we get here?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Did that wild? And then it's the same girl that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: you found that he was sending the nudes to when
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you're sitting next that she was sending nudes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: No, so this was actually his ex girlfriend. And when
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I had talked about him going on a boys trip,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: that was the girl he actually brought to Florida in
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: the girl who I had multiple issues with with him
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: because I'm like, I know you still see her, Yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I know what's going on for throughout our entire relationships,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: she would call randomly and I mean it was an act.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: They dated prior to me, and when I first met him,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: they were kind of just like breaking up. So he
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: really just I mean he must have been talking to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: her the whole time, because I'm really not good at math,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but at all, I'm just thinking about it. I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: he I left in March and she got pregnant in May.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: It must have been May or June if she's doing March.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I mean that's pretty quick.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Well well, I mean okay, so now of course the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: internet has got all of their like pregnancy photo shoots
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and stuff that's all out, and you're like, how did
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: he think that all of this was a good come
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: out before this tell all and stuff which people were rumors,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but the minute like it's out there and then it's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: like boom, people have pregnancy photo shoots, Like how did
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: they get that? One of them, either he or the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: girl had to have put it out there for other
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: people to see.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: From what I've heard, he had texted me one day
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: like afterwards like apologize and be like, oh, I'm so scarry,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I'm having a baby. I'm like after the tell all, yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like okay. I mean, anyways, moving on and somebody
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: had sent him or like sent a photo in a
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Facebook chat that they took of Johnny and the girl.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: And that's when the original like first post got posted.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: That was like a few months ago, and it was
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like circulating.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Is this when they look like the two of them
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: are at like a baby shower, Yes, okay, and they're
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: like standing up like talking, and he's like, yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's acting like nothing in the world is messed up.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: But he just yesterday or too, like two days ago,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: she dropped like the actual photos, and in my head,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of is this poor
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: girl looks so happy and she's gonna see this tell
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: all probably and be like why are we talking about
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like getting back with her, and like how like great, there,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: your intimacy was with this girl. Yeah, while I'm like
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: pregnant at home, I would literally bash him in the face.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's that's sort of my thought is like now
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: seeing the tell all and him saying like, of course
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I would take Chloe back. We had this like great
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: sexual chemistry, and yet if she came back to a roob,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'd love to try again. Oh, also, my girlfriend is
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: pregnant and having a baby next month, like what, but.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I would take her back the way that I can't.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I am shut. I hope all men aren't like this,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: because that is that takes a whole person to do.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: And I do wonder if in his mind he's thinking,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say all this, like yeah, take Chloe back
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and all that and do it for the show, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: not expecting then at the end he's gonna tell this
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: other thing. So he was thinking like, oh, I'll just
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: say all this for the show, like it's not true
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: that I'll take her back and I'll just tell my
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: girl I was acting or whatever.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, somebody should give him like an Emmy or
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: a grand because I mean those were like some real feelings,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: like if he can fake that, someone needs to sign
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: him to like no.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And also let's talk about the neck tattoo. So sure
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: what we say, and I have some tattoos myself, it's fine.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: What we say about tattoos is when you run out
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: of space, then you go on your neck, and then
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: when you run out of space there then you can
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: go to like your scalp in your face. Johnny seems
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: to have lots of space, but yet went for the neck.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And it's like a bird of all things, it's like
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: an eagle. Yeah, I guess I never really, I don't.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever really looked at what it was.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like a chicken the first time,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: making because I used to have chickens, so I'd be like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: oh my god, is that a chicken. He would be like, no, looie.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: If you dated a guy with the chicken on their neck,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: we would have real f.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't know. That would have been really bad.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: It's bad anyway. Whatever it is is bad. I guess
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it just been worse.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I I don't understand it. I don't understand. It's all
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I see when I see him. It's all I see
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is that neck tattoo. It makes no sense. It makes
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: no sense.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: It must like represent something, but like you could have
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: put that anywhere, like you, I would have rather like
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: a tramp stamp of a chicken or either on their
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: neck like that just doesn't make any sense at all.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes no sense. And you know, listen, he'll
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: be he'll be a pirateerver because you know, your mom,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: being a corporate lady, will tell you he's never going
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to get a corporate job with that nick tattoo.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have to have a crazy turtleneck. It's
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: like choking him too, it's literally like around.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I know I would get that removed, but that's just me.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I do you think he's going to marry his baby mama?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I mean I would honestly probably say yes, only because
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: they clearly have so much history and they really I
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: meant a whole piece of life now, so it would
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like it would make sense. But I don't know if
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: he he's the marriage type.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Well, that was another thing that was interesting when you
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: guys were having that breakup scene that he's like, you
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: ain't shit, you're this year that I was like, if
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: we're watching the show yesterday, you were saying you wouldn't
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: want to marry her one day.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: So I think he just has no sense of reality truly,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: because everything I said and everything I felt, really for
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the most part, had truth to it. And we didn't,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: you know, just do any random scenes and people weren't
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: really telling us what to say, like these were real
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: conversations we were having, so to see like the pivot
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: from I mean, I know you're angry, but literally talking
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to a marriage going to get like papers signed yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: talking better options, and then the next day literally be
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: like I don't even want you.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh and his uh it is talking head.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: He said, you know, Chloe went and looked at my phone,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and no man would ever want a girl like that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I'll speak for the rest of the men I've been with.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I stay in their phone and they can stay in
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: mind because if you have nothing to hide. I mean,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I should have done. I should have
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: just went on his phone and sent myself money and
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: just ignored all the cheating. Like instead of me looking
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: through your phone, I should have just went like right
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: to Denmo. Yes, like every time I see something, I'm
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: just gonna take it out of your bank account.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: The god Well, okay, tell us, now, are you dating
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: anybody there in Boston?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I am not, thank God, because the men here love
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: them to death, but they just it's like a different world.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Dating in a city is very hard.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's a Boston and you got the Boston
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: aspect of it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: And everyone's pretty like tough, rough around the edges, very
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: like cocky, and I'm just I don't know, I'm really
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: not into it right now. I need to like get together,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: take a.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Beat I did see you post the other day that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you were in your car and you were like when
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you're in your car moving with your childhood lamp and
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you had like a little princess lamp.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: It's literally right here.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So are you Are you moving into like a single
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: girl apartment? Like your mom's selling the house and all that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: So, yes, she did sell the house, which is like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: so sad. That house was absolutely beautiful. We have so
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: many memories. Whatever, it's gone and we just moved. It's like,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it's kind of it's kind of difficult. I'm moving closer
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to the city, which is where I am now, which
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: is why this wall has nothing on it. Yeah, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: then my mom is moving to Florida, but we got
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a two bed apartment because she's definitely gonna come back
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: back and forth. She hasn't like a full house yet.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: She's renting for now. The company's up here, but for
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the most part, she's leaving me to myself and my thoughts,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: like my negiral life.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: You work for your mom's company.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I do, but I don't anymore, which is sad. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I think I just need to fully be on my own.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I'm currently people are like, oh, you're bartending. I actually
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: make insane money. I'm sure you do bartending. It's actually girl.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: How can you see over the bar? Now?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to like, it's so funny. We have a
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: low bar, it's like a sport's bar, but all the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: glasses and everything and the bottles are up high and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I'm always like literally having to get on counters and
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: it's not made for short people at all. No, it's not.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Just when you said that, I'm like, I'm seeing you,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: like there's the bartender, Like there she is, you can see.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's oh god, that's so funny. Well, I
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: would like to say for the TLC people out there listening,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I have three suggestions for you. You would be great on
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: pillow Talk.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that'd be awesome.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: With We would love to see you on there with
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: like Courtney, one of our favorites.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I do want to do that. That would be fun.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I mean to sit with like any of our like Veronica's,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: with any of these like girls girls that we love
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: that are on pillow Talk, we would love or even
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: your mom would probably be hilarious on pillow Talk.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: She needs like she needs her own show. She's she's awesome.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Chloe and her mom on Pillow Talk or Single Life
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: of Course, naturally Single Life, Older Girl Hunt for Love
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: that show. First of all, we were like, who are
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: they hunting? Why is it called Hunt for Love?
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: It was never understood, Like is this like a hunger
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: game situation?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: We were like, is it gonna be like yellow Jackets
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: at the end They're all going to kill each other?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Like what's gonna happen? But it's really fun and you
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: seem to thrive in like an island setting.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I know, you to an island, I might like crash
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: out and freak out, but I mean, I think it
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: would be nice to at least be tan. I would
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Please don't hook up with Rob, you know. That's all
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we ask?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Oh is that that is?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: That makes me so happy that you said that. Yeah, okay, great,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that's wonderful. Rob was with Sophie and he's been he
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: was on Hunt for Love and he is of the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: ninety d eight Bad Boys, and he's very good looking
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and I've talked to him in person several times and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: he's extremely charming. But he probably he would look right
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: at you and say you ain't shit, And nobody wants
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a girl like you. So he's got a lot of similar.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: He should try that. I have some experience, now he
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: should try it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm dying to actually pull up this picture. See I'm
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: just trying to see if it's on my computer. This
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: is one of our favorite things of all time right here.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I literally do this all the time, but this was
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: literally like I can't.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Even believe this is like, let's do it. Like I'm
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: just like.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: My eyes were like bugging. I'm like, no way.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: We have put this on the screen and we're now
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: just using it for any time anybody says everything we
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: just put it. We're like, what what mind blown? It's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: mind blown?
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: So funny my facial expressions have they have trended?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. So this is my the TLC guides
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I say, pillow Talk, single Life, hunt for Love, all
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: of it. We need Chloe when we find when we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: knew would get a new TLC star. We need her
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: on all our programs.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I know I need to just I need to dive in.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like there's more to offer. I'm better like not
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: with a pirate. You know, it's like a different side
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: of me right now.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Chloe. I just say, when you start dating guys, I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: say number one, don't meet them at the bar where
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you're working. No, that's number one. Number two neck tattoo
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: out look away, red flag, red flag works on a
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: boat gone gone. I think somebody that has like a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: nine to five might be your speed. I know, might
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: like to take a vacation because you're like, like your
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: vacation girly like me.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: You could yeah, maybe you'd like own if you own
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: a nine to five, that's too own something. So like
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: when I'm fed up with the winter, we can, you
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: can get go.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's got to be not a ruba, though,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever. I think about this often.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: If I were to date somebody else and they were like,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: let's go to a Ruba, do I dare bring it
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: up and be like, did you actually know? I think
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: about this quite often.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'd be like, how about Saint Thomas. I've heard
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it's nice, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: My god, I actually do love Saint Thomas. I was there,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful, Like, let's go somewhere else.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Listen, I love talking to you. Don't hang up when
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: we're done. We have to load this recording. But thank
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: you so much for talking to me. You're our hero.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: We need you on all our ninety day shows. I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: would love that, and we love that maybe you stood
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: up to that Madeleine, and and I don't have any
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: recommendations for seeing her on any more shows.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm just
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Say no, no, no, okay no, but okay, thank you, Claus,
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  Speaker 1: thank you,