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Ranking NBA Teams by Vibes · Small Ball with Kenny Beecham

0:04
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to another episode of Small Ball with Kenny Beecham.
0:08
SPEAKER_01: We are here to rank the vibes across the NBA.
0:11
SPEAKER_01: But before we do that, can we just talk a little bit of them?
0:15
SPEAKER_01: Bears, man.
0:15
SPEAKER_01: I know it's a few days removed from the Bears winning on a 55, I don't even know how many are, touchdown play for between 18 and 2, but I'm still on cloud nine, man.
0:26
SPEAKER_01: This is, this is something I've said before as a Chicago sports fan.
0:31
SPEAKER_01: We haven't had many good runs.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: We haven't had many good seasons as of recently.
0:35
SPEAKER_01: And right now, whether you believe in them or not, you have to you have to tip your hat.
0:38
SPEAKER_01: This team is A fun and finding ways to win football games.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: And boy, Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams, Caleb Williams.
0:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a damn about completion percentage.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a damn about EPA per drop back.
0:49
SPEAKER_01: I know that guy can win football games.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: And he has.
0:52
SPEAKER_01: So he's doing good.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: The White Sox just signed the top uh Japanese player uh to the team.
0:59
SPEAKER_01: I didn't even know the White Sox were buyers this offseason.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: We were just trans for two years in a row.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna temper my expectations because every time I get really excited about something Chicago sports related, it it blows up.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: But I will say, we're looking good, man.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: We're looking good.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: And I said every time the Bears win, I feel like I've put together a banger of an episode for y'all.
1:17
SPEAKER_01: And today we are ranking vibes.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: Last year we did this episode, and I promise you, on the YouTube side of things, all of the comments were about the way I was saying we were vibe rators.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: I had to slow that down.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: We are rating vibes, vibe rators.
1:35
SPEAKER_01: But if you say it fast enough, and like Kenny Trippin', no, I'm not.
1:38
SPEAKER_01: It was an accident.
1:39
SPEAKER_01: Today we're ranking vibes across the NBA.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: And this is how I think about the vibes.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, sometimes you can you can see a team be down in themselves.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: You can see the fan base, which a lot of this will be fan base centric, I won't lie to you.
1:49
SPEAKER_01: But you know, you know the vibes.
1:51
SPEAKER_01: Today we got the first, the five worst vibes and the five best vibes.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: And in my research, which is me watching basketball at the end of the day, because there's no statistics that are gonna tell you about the vibe.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: I came to the realization that a lot of teams have good vibes, but not a lot of teams have great vibes.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: Even the teams that have been really good this season, there's maybe something in their fan base like, ah, the Minnesota Timbulls just beat the OKC Thunder a few days ago, and you would say their vibes is an all-time high.
2:15
SPEAKER_01: But the reality is they still kind of need a point guard.
2:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think that a lot of Minnesota Timbulls fans, even though they're feeling really good after a very quality win, they still recognize that once we get to a seven-game series versus some of the other juggernauts across basketball, we still need a floor setter.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes are high, but maybe not top five high.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: They're still really good though.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: So when I get to it, this is not any particular order.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: When I say they're top five, just take it as top five, not that this is one and this is two or this is three.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna start off with a team that we kind of talked about a good amount over the last couple episodes because the San Antonio Spurs continue to do their thing.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I may say that they, again, I'm not ranking, but this, if I were ranking, this probably would be number one.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Being competitive this early into, you know, a young core is really, really great, right?
2:59
SPEAKER_01: If you think about all of the young players, all just players in general, when they when they're asked about their first time in the postseason, they tell you how much of a shift there really is and how experiencing that shift really changes the mindset and the preparation for the rest of their careers.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: So for Wimby to be year three, Castle to be year two, Harper to be year one, and for them to not just get postseason run as of right now, I think if I think after a loss from the Denver Nuggets yesterday, are they the two-seed right now?
3:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: Them boys are the two-seed in the season where Wimbyama has missed 12 games.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: You can't tell me that ain't great vibes.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: And when you you talk about, you know, of course, we did have the NBA Cup final where our boy Wimby did get pushed around a little bit by some Car Anthony Towns and some Mitchell Robinson, but everybody uh really truly believes that Wimbyama is in conversations to be top five in the league right now.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: So to have a top five player on a rookie scale contract, and then you have these other dudes where like, I've always believed in Dylan Harper.
3:57
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, most people have.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: This is not like I, Kenny's hot take, Dylan Harper, good basketball player, because he was a second overall pick in this year's draft.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: But he's been so good in Spurs.
4:06
SPEAKER_01: Like if you look at the numbers, the efficiency numbers are not good, but he's a rookie guard.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't expect any rookie guard to come in and be a 50-40-90 candidate.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: But he gives you these bursts of a three-minute um shift, a five-minute shift.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: You're like, whoa, that guy legitimately is going to be one of the best guards in basketball.
4:22
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, the Spurs fans, and I've said Spurs, I've given up on the idea of mocking trades to get Giannis if he is available for y'all.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want to do it.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: And Spurs fans said that to me earlier.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, you know, if we do trade for Giannis and we had to throw in our boy Dylan Harper, I'm fearful of a Shea Gilders Alexander, uh, Paul George trade thing.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: When you trade away this young promise and prospect, he goes to his next team and boom, he's giving me the league.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Boom, he's an all-NBA player.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: And I do believe that Dylan Harper has all NBA player upside.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: So everything has been so great.
4:52
SPEAKER_01: Given, even getting down to some of the offseason signings where they gave what a three-year,$30 million contract to Luke Courtnette, and Luke Courtnette has been able to really hold it down.
5:01
SPEAKER_01: One of the Unksung heroes, um, because I didn't even recognize how important he was to this team, Kelvin Johnson, man.
5:07
SPEAKER_01: And they they lost in the cup.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: No.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: Kelton was going to use that money to buy a llama.
5:13
SPEAKER_01: But they did still get a couple hundred K, so he probably could still afford.
5:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how much llamas costs, honestly.
5:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, but Kelden Johnson has been heralded as their one of their leaders in the locker, one of their vocal leaders.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: And then I did get a glimpse of that in their last game where he was uh keep making sure people kept their heads up and they watched the Wizards game and everything.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: So vibes are extremely, extremely high.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: Are they contender?
5:34
SPEAKER_01: Are they not?
5:35
SPEAKER_01: The fact that it's even a conversation kind of showcased to you that the vibes are high.
5:38
SPEAKER_01: All right.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: Next team with the highest vibes, again, in no particular order, I'm gonna stick with the NBA Cup Championship because the New York Knicks have great high vibes.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: I thought that last year's Knicks team was the best Knicks team I've ever seen.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: In my object permanence as a human.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, like the Knicks were good when I was first born, but like I, you know what I'm saying?
5:59
SPEAKER_01: But as far as me knowing that when that door closed, there's still stuff behind it.
6:02
SPEAKER_01: This that last year's team was the best Knicks team I've seen.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: And the Knicks, this year's Knicks team, took that Knicks team and said, we're gonna change our identity just a little bit, we're gonna shift a little bit, and we're gonna be even better than that one.
6:12
SPEAKER_01: Everybody feels really good.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: This is my favorite by far Josh Hart season of his career.
6:17
SPEAKER_01: And that's saying a lot because I've always loved me some Josh Hart.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: Even OJ and Nobi, where the overall counter stats may not be as good as, you know, his last full season in Toronto, or it may not even be as good as last year, where he averaged 18 points per game.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: I think this is his best season.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: And I he's just a menace of fire hydro defensively all over the place, making plays for himself and all of the other things.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: This team has great vibes.
6:41
SPEAKER_01: Where Tyler Kolek, who had never scored 10 points in an NBA game before, went to the NBA Cup final, said here go 14, 5, 5.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, they're doing great things.
6:50
SPEAKER_01: And I haven't even mentioned the head of the snake, Jalen Brunson, who without him, there is no great vibes.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Without him taking that pay cut, there is no team that is an NBA contender.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: And he continues to show time and time again that even in these games where they become grinded out, in these games where they need a closer, one guy you can really count on is Jalen Brunson.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: When they fire Tom Thibodeau, I was one of the skeptics.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: I won't lie to you.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: Not because of me not believing in Mike Brown or anything.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: I just looked at what Tom Thibodeau did with that team.
7:20
SPEAKER_01: And Tom Thibodeau has always been a guy that's gonna squeeze every win out of the rag.
7:24
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna always try to get every single win.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: That's how you get to OJ and I know he playing as many minutes with all of these guys.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: And like, how could there be a step up from this?
7:32
SPEAKER_01: And Mike Brown has said, hey, there is.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: This team is actually defending better under Mike Brown than they did under Tom Thibodeau with the same roster, with the same exact roster.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: They're more bought in than any time ever.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Number two defense, or number two offense in the top 15 defense.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: That is the recipe for the New York Knicks to continue to be good.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: And I still think that there are some Carneton Towns juice that ain't been out yet.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: So I'm loving it.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm absolutely loving it.
7:55
SPEAKER_01: So we got the Spurs, we got the Knicks, the next team on my list will be the Boston Celtics.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: This is a found money season for the Boston Celtics, man.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: Before the year started, we knew that the Pacers and the Celtics, who had lost their star players in last year's playoffs, had a direction to take.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: They could try to continue to be competitive, recognize that their ceiling is not championship anymore, or they can take a step back.
8:18
SPEAKER_01: The Pacers reacquired their pick from the Pelicans.
8:21
SPEAKER_01: The Celtics have their own pick for the first time and what feels like forever.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: So what will they do?
8:25
SPEAKER_01: The Pacers dealt with so many injuries that we're looking at them as like, oh, they're retaining their pick.
8:29
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna have a top 10 pick in this year's draft.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: Probably better for their organization.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: And the Celtics said, nah, we have Joe Mazzo.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: Nah, we got all of these dudes.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: And even the fans that I know that are Celtics fans that were more in favor of the tank, the AJ DeBonta tank, because he's such a big Celtics fan.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Even those guys who wanted the tank have looked at this season and say, it's okay.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: This Celtics roster in the way they've been playing recently is so likable.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: And I know that's some of y'all, some of y'all is gonna be hard to really come to that realization because the Celtics are one of those teams that you love to hate.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: But this team has just been so fun.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: Jalen Brown playing like a legitimate superstar.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't give a damn about the assistant turnover ratio being one.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: All right.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: It's a different kind of superstar.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: He's gonna get you a bucket or two.
9:13
SPEAKER_01: Derek White, after being one of our most disappointing players of the season last month, has really got back on their horse and been looking like himself again.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: Jordan Walsh does not miss shots anymore and is defending at an all-defensive level.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: And the man's cater is one of the best screen setters in defending fives and hoops.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: Talk to me, y'all.
9:33
SPEAKER_01: Between Luke Courtnette and the Mazceda, you know, you can get a replacement level center with the Celtics, and they can help him turn into somebody that's like a starter level guy.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: They've been doing pretty good over there.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: So found money season.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: Now you got the little piece in the back of your brain that said, hey, Tater might be coming back soon.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: And if he does come back soon, you look at the pieces that they have right now, you look at the Easter conference, and you say to yourself, why not us?
9:53
SPEAKER_01: That has great vibes.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: That is great, great vibes.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: When we come back, we got a few more teams with great vibes and a bunch of teams with bad vibes.
10:02
SPEAKER_01: Be sure to stay tuned.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Jumping back into it with some of the great vibes across basketball.
10:13
SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm gonna be honest with you.
10:15
SPEAKER_01: Those first three teams were so easy for me to say, hey man, this these teams are playing so amazingly, boom, boom, boom.
10:21
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, how do I get that far without mention the number one seed in the Easter conference, Detroit Pistons?
10:26
SPEAKER_01: Detroit basketball is back, y'all.
10:29
SPEAKER_01: And the reason why their vibes are so high, because you know what it was like two years ago, the 20-something game losing streak, where Kay Cunningham says there's no way we're the uh two and whatever bad.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: And they they kind of were two and whatever bad back then.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: That's when Caitlin Hayes was starting over J Nive.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: I'll never forgive you for that, Monty Williams, by the way.
10:46
SPEAKER_01: And now they're sending the record of 22 and 6 to one seed in the Eastern Conference.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: Now, I recognize that um things have kind of shifted since the early part of the season.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, early in the year, we were talking about Jalen Duran as an all-star, uh maybe a sneaky all-NBA start.
11:03
SPEAKER_01: Since then, it has fallen off a little bit, you know, on the offensive side of the ball, where his numbers are continuing to drop.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: But I think that's okay because their true identity has been, under um, under our boy JB, has been a defensive-oriented team.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: And right now, they're the best defensive team, not named the OKC Thunder.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: Where Jalen Duran may not be scoring as well as he was before, but the defense is still holding up.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: Isaiah Stewart's defense is still holding up.
11:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh Sar Thompson's defense is still holding up.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: So I think there's a world where, like, because of the way the last, let's say, 10 or 15 games have gone on the offensive side of the things, that they may be more uh incentivized, I guess, to be more of a buyer when it comes to offensive talent for this deadline.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: It's yet to be seen.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I could see the alternate reproach, the Sam Pressian say we're just gonna sit back and see what we got.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: Either way, the team has great vibes.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: When you have a guy who is borderline top 10, I don't know exactly where you would have K Cunningham, and him being the closer that he is and the rest of the pieces fitting around him.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: I am still scared, even though let me look these up.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: Because last time I looked at these numbers, right?
12:01
SPEAKER_01: You think about the young, intriguing players, not Nate K.
12:03
SPEAKER_01: Cunningham on the Detroit Pistons.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: You think about Ron Holland, you think about Asar Thompson.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: And just in theory, those two guys should not be able to coexist on the ball on the court together.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: And let me look at the numbers.
12:15
SPEAKER_01: The numbers are still exactly the way they were when I checked this two and a half weeks ago.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Where Ron Holland and Asar Thompson have played only 143 minutes together.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: It makes sense to not use this lineup regularly for the reason I'm saying about the lack of offense and that unit, those two guys on the court, the five-man unit around them, shoots 27% from three.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: The lack of spacing is a problem.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: But the defense is so otherworldly.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: In that 140 minutes, they have a net rating of plus 18.6 with a defensive rating of 96.3.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: That's like, I don't know, 2000, 2005 Detroit Pistons defense with those two on the court.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, I'm I'm trying to look at it again, the vibes are immediately high.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: So I'm kind of sucks.
13:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of spinning this in negative asset.
13:01
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: I think about Asar Thompson in the playoff series, especially if he's gonna potentially play submitted to Ron Holland.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: And watching and thinking about the way the New York Knicks guarded them next uh last season in the postseason.
13:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm just a little bit more afraid of that, those type of lineups in the postseason.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Because it's not as though Asar Thompson is a one-to-one to his brother, where in that system over there at Houston, he can be a non-spacer and still find ways in the full court and still find ways in the half court to be effective on like screening and being on the ball and cutting around the baseline and cutting from uh the uh wings of the court.
13:39
SPEAKER_01: You don't see a lot of that from Asar Thompson.
13:41
SPEAKER_01: And he's also not the passer that his brother is.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: So when you do put the ball in his hands, it's not like he's gonna make some of the plays.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just I'm just a little bit weary of that, but but the team, the vibes, happy new lead.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: This fifth spot was really tough.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: So let me give you some some honorable mention vibes teams.
14:00
SPEAKER_01: Are we ready for these honorable mention vibes teams?
14:02
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, OKC.
14:05
SPEAKER_01: They lost two of their last three.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: Whoop de doo.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: The vibes are still amazing.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it would have just been a cop-out to me to be like, yeah, the best team in the league by a wide margin has best vibes.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:15
SPEAKER_01: We know we know that.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: They even though their star, the normal star lineup is what, oh and two together, that's kind of nuts to me.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, still vibes are amazing.
14:24
SPEAKER_01: I think the Lakers' vibes are good.
14:26
SPEAKER_01: Like to really, really good to not amazing, but like really good with them being a team that sometimes you watch them be like, no shot.
14:34
SPEAKER_01: They they don't defend nothing, and then they have a three-minute stretch where they're the best defensive team of all time and they win basketball games.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes are high there.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: And I think that though this team is 7 and 22, I can't believe I'm saying this.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: Though this team is 7-22, as of today, as I record this episode, the vibes in the worlds are actually goaded.
14:53
SPEAKER_01: Joe Dumas.
14:54
SPEAKER_01: Did he cook?
14:56
SPEAKER_01: No, not yet.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: Not yet, not yet.
14:58
SPEAKER_01: I guess only time will tell.
14:59
SPEAKER_01: But the team has been playing well.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Zion's been coming off the bench and like actually looking pretty good.
15:04
SPEAKER_01: The team's in closing lineups.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: All I'm saying is that the it's not top five vibes.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: But I did mention on numbers on the board two weeks ago when they lost the game against the Spurs.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: That might have been the mid beginning of December, that that team that at that point was, I don't know, two and eighteen, was not as bad as the record shows.
15:25
SPEAKER_01: And now that they're starting to stream together wins, I feel validated in that take.
15:29
SPEAKER_01: But the last thing I had in the top five when it comes to vibes is the Philadelphia 76ers.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, let me explain.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: Let me explain.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: If I would have told you that their three max players, Tavrice Maxie, Paul George, and Joel Lambi, have only played 36 minutes together in a matter of, let's see, let's do some quick math, in a matter of 27 games.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: They have 36 minutes together.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: Before the season started, if I told you that, you're probably like, oh, would they the 12th seed or something?
15:54
SPEAKER_01: No, they're like in there right now.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: And now it's all jumbled up where if they go on a two-game loser streak, they're the ninth seed.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: But right now, as I'm recording this episode, they are the fourth seed with that stuff.
16:03
SPEAKER_01: And the reason why I think they're top five is because I don't know a single person that truly had expectations for the 76ers this season.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: It's so much different when your team is decent with no expectations.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: If you're decent with expectations, oh, the vibes are bad.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna, I'm gonna talk about a team later in the episode that are decent right now, but had real expectations.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: I feel like these last couple years of the 76ers, some of us came to the season, like, hey man, sneaky team.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Paul George on the team, this is a sneaky team.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Darres Max's on team, Joel B, this is a sneaky team to go on the run.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: And then they disappoint.
16:33
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes are never great.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: But now that you have these young players where the lineups of Jeremy Cain, Tyrese Maxie, and Vijay Edgecomb is a limited amount of minutes, been looking pretty damn good.
16:43
SPEAKER_01: Just watched the game the other day against the Dallas Mavericks, and I was really impressed with that lineup.
16:47
SPEAKER_01: So you kind of, similar to like the Celtics, kind of like a found money season.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: Joel Embiid has played, what, 12 games?
16:53
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like only one of them he looked like himself for a four, four minutes or four-quarter stretch.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: And they're still a good basketball team.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: The vibes are high.
17:01
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if I've ever said that about a Philadelphia team.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Ever.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Off a Super Bowl, I didn't feel like the vibes.
17:05
SPEAKER_01: Nah, let me chill.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to the Eagles.
17:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, but no, the vibes are pretty high.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: Again, I don't, I don't even know that this the 76er fans that I follow on Twitter, because I don't have them in my personal life, even though they're playing well, I still don't think they have any expectations, right?
17:19
SPEAKER_01: I think they're like just get into the playoffs and see what happens.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: And I kind of agree with that, right?
17:23
SPEAKER_01: If you can, he had his game against the Pacers, and I'm talking about Joel Leb.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: Joel Le B has his game against the Pacers.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: And you see glimmers of like the guy that was the most points per minute since Wilt Chamberlain or whoever the hell the stat was.
17:36
SPEAKER_01: And like, if we can just continue to be good right now and keep Joel LeBee relatively healthy for April, then who knows?
17:44
SPEAKER_01: And that don't sound too crazy, right?
17:47
SPEAKER_01: Would I bet money on the hell no?
17:50
SPEAKER_01: But that don't sound too crazy, do it.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes are high.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: Those are my top five.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: Let's transition over to the lowest vibes, the worst vibes in the NBA right now, because it's a few teams.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: It was so much easier to put together the low vibes team than the high vibes team.
18:05
SPEAKER_01: Starting off in no particular order, the Cleveland Cavaliers.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: Last episode, I gave you the um historical data, if you will, of the last six seasons of how five of those six championships finals that we seen, one of the teams that were in the finals had a really poor first 20 to 25 games between Dallas, between the Celtics, between Miami, between the Milwaukee Bucks.
18:27
SPEAKER_01: Like it goes on and on.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: So I gave you historical uh instances where teams have started off like this and still found a way to be okay.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: Since then, the Cleveland Cavaliers lost two games to the Chicago Bulls.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: And losing to the Chicago Bulls is like, I don't know, the reddest alert that can be, could that can happen.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: Because that team is not good.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: I know the five and don't start with school.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: That team is not good.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: And the vibes are at all-time low for a team that came in and us thinking that they were going to be one of the top two seeds in the conference and for them to be an NBA championship contender.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm still I still have the door open about 5% of the way, enough where you can slip a piece of paper between the door and the lock that says we are champs.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: But I'm I it's it's close to close completely.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: And when Don Vomitel says I can't have a bad game, and we say, yeah, he's kind of right, that's scary because this team has enough talent.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: Even through injury, they have enough talent to beat up on teams that are bad, right?
19:30
SPEAKER_01: And some of the games, as of recent, that talent has not showed itself.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: I feel bad for Alonzo Ball, bro.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: He's never been a guy, or not never, he has not been a guy since coming back from his injury that looked at the basket.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: This is a whole nother version of him.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: Where he's under the basket with the ball and saying no on some Ben Simmons when Trey Young guarding him type of stuff.
19:50
SPEAKER_01: And then he had a shot in the Bulls game, the second Bulls game, where he's in a left corner and he shot it and it hit the top corner of the backboard.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: My boy can't shoot no more.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of sad.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: When we come back, we'll talk about some other teams or really low vibes.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: I got four more for you.
20:08
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20:31
SPEAKER_01: Put together a little thing the other day, right?
20:33
SPEAKER_01: You know, DraftKings say, Kenny, we need you to put together this pick set, need you to tweet it out, yada, yada, yada.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking to myself, I kind of like the idea of just a two-man pick set.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Now, do what you do what you please, play responsibly always.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: But I like the idea of a little two-person thing.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: And in that one, I went with, you know, Alex Sars more on points that hit.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: And I went more on Derek Queen's points.
20:53
SPEAKER_01: That also hit.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, hmm, then I found my own personal recipe.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Again, do what you want, play, play as you please, and please be be safe.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: But I was thinking to myself, is that my recipe?
21:02
SPEAKER_01: So today would be my last time experimenting with a longer pick set.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, but this is how we're gonna do it.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm calling this pick set, because y'all know I gotta do themes around here on numbers, uh, numbers on the board, on small ball.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: My rookie rated pick set.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Where everybody in this pick set is a rookie.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: This class has been elite.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Starting off with the first pick of my pick set, right?
21:28
SPEAKER_01: The Charlotte Horns are going against that Cavs team that I just talked about a few minutes ago.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: And uh again, that calves team is not very good.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: Would Donovan Mitchell play?
21:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't really know at this point.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: But one guy that has looked really good is Khan Kanipple.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: I was watching their game the other night um in a game that they lost to the Detroit Pistons, and Khan Knipple hit a three point in the first quarter, and their announcer says Kyle Knipple now up to second in the NBA in total May threes.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: That guy's a rookie.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: He's second in the NBA, only behind you can guess who, the three point shooter, the greatest ever.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: But he's number two.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: So what I'm doing for this pick set.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: I think that hot hand is gonna stay.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm going more on his three pointers.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, the Cavs, again, have been wishy-washy defensively.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: No Evan Mobile over there.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Not great wing defenders either at this point of the season.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: I think that Khan Knipple can get a bunch of three-pointers up.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: That kind of has been their identity over there in Charlotte for a little bit of time now.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: You saw that when they set the record or tied the record for most three-pointers in a half.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: I think Khan Knipple continues to do the thing.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: This is the game of the night for me, by the way.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: The next one I'm talking about.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: Because we do have two of the other top three rookies of this class, Cooper Flagg and the Dallas Mavericks scoring against Derek Queen and the New Orleans Pelicans.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: So, like I said, this is a rookie-rated pick set.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: Cooper Flagg has averaged, what, 28 points per game in his last 10 while basically not hitting a single three-pointer?
22:46
SPEAKER_01: Let me say it again.
22:47
SPEAKER_01: 28 points in his last 10 without hitting threes.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: So if ever he decides that he can get that jump shot going from three, my goodness.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: There was an executive that said, man, yeah, if Cooper Flag was in the 2026 draft, he's not even going top 10.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: But he was an anonymous guy.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: And you know, anonymous people just be talking.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm going more on Cooper Flag's points in this game versus the Pelicans.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: I think that him and Derrick Queen are going to feel really, I don't know, passionate about this game, really amped up.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: We just saw it the other day where Cooper Flag played against VJ Edge Comb, where both of those guys really went out there and wanted to show why they would potentially be the best rookie in the class.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm going more on Cooper Flag's points.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: And then when it comes to Derek Queen, he's kind of all over the place in the best way.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: Where sometimes I'm like, yeah, I like those points, just like a couple nights ago when I put him in my pick set.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I really like the rebounds, sometimes I like the assists.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Today I'm saying more on his assists versus the Dallas Mavericks.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Now, the Mavs have found have been pretty good at defense specifically when it goes against other fours and fives.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I'm kind of staying away from the points from Derrick Queen.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: So that's why I'm going with the assists because I think he could dish him off, throw great passes.
23:51
SPEAKER_01: Hell down.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Last person in my pick set is another rookie.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: And this is this is this is where things get kind of dangerous, if you ask me.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Because the Grizzies are playing against the OKC Thunder.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: Little rule of thumb I usually have, but again, I'm experimenting today.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: Don't put nobody in your pick set if they're going against OKC.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: But I will today, for the sake of the challenge, the rookie rated challenge, Sedg Coward, I'm going more.
24:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, more, more, more on his points versus OKC.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: Though there has been so many great rookies in his class, Cedric Coward has been my favorite since the moment I watched this tape, the six games that he played in college.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: I wanted him to fall number 11.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: He went number 10.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'll never get over that.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: But I've been in love with his game, his maturity, his professionalism on the court and off the court.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm going more on his points versus the OKC Thunder.
24:42
SPEAKER_01: So quick recap more on three pointers for Khan Knippel, more on points for Cooper Flag, more on assists for Derek, I almost said Derek Harper on uh Derrick Queen.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: And lastly, more on points for Cedric Coward.
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25:26
SPEAKER_01: So if you're going through the Cavs, the next team on my list is the Clippers.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Now the Clippers did the game against the Lakers.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to them, but like that don't really mean anything.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: They came into the season.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: People believe them to be contenders.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: And right now, they're the 13th seed in the Western Conference with a 7-21 record.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: But like I mentioned, one game straight.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to the LA Clippers.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: This has been the season from hell.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I think it's Ben Simmons that always says there's one team that's a season for hell every single year and every single sport.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: Undoubtedly has to be this team.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: From the off-season, where you had the aspiration things, from the regular season where they started off so very poor, to them sending Chris Paul home.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like every three days it's a new piece of that story.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a Chris Paul threw a Halloween party and nobody showed up.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: He threw a Halloween party and nobody showed up.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: I swear to you, bro.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: If I threw a Halloween party for the Enjoy basketball team and nobody showed up, I'm not showing up to work myself the next day or the day after that.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Because y'all not gonna disrespect me.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: I done bought these cupcakes and I can't even eat the cupcakes.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: I can't eat dairy, but I bought cupcakes for y'all.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: And Chris Pauls in it too.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: He's vegan.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: He probably had the normal cupcakes for them.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes are an all-time low over there.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: Again, they got a weird.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
26:38
SPEAKER_01: I made a tweet where I was like, um tell me the player that is relatively realistic, right?
26:46
SPEAKER_01: Or something along the lines that your team could acquire that you want to see your team acquire.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: And I saw a lot of teams say, man, give us big zoo.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: I saw Lake, uh, not Lakers fans, I saw Pacers fans, I saw um it was the Pacers fans, it was Celtics fans.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: I saw Warriors fans.
27:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, hmm.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: The Warriors are also on my list, spoiler alert.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna talk about them next.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, hmm, do I need to load up the trade machine?
27:12
SPEAKER_01: I did, it didn't work.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, but in my mind, it was a it was a whirl, and I think it was AP Hoops that put it into my mind.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to him, he's a Clippers fan.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: He was like, I'm trading Zoo Bots away if to the Warriors, if I could get some picks from the 2030s, the post-Sth Curry era.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: Because do you trust Mike Dunlavy to put together a really good team post-Seth Curry?
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Hey, oh, he can't put together a really good team in the Steph Curry era.
27:33
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, yeah, would I trade away Big Zoo if I got picks back from the Warriors post-STEF Curry?
27:40
SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't put together the trait, though.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: The money is weird because second paper teams, yada, yada, yada.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: Somebody very smart, smarter than I am, would be able to make that trade.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't do it.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it made me think but the Clippers are do have bad vibes, so much so that I guess that James Harden could potentially be on the move.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: And I think that if James Harden's on the move, that you kind of have to open the door for Kawhi.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: What teams be interested?
27:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't really know.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, that's one of my sneaky, oh, he's traded out of nowhere type of guys, Kawhi Leonard.
28:05
SPEAKER_01: And I, the team that made the most sense to me on paper, and again, this is literally just on paper, would be a team like the Clip, um, the one-seeded Detroit Pistons.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: I mentioned how their lack of offense outside of K.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Cunningham could be scary to me come postseason.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: Kawhi Leonard, though he is an injury risk, as you know, would be an interesting fit there.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: It's just a matter of what his value is.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: You don't want to give up too much for him because of the injury risk.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: But like, if if you're trying to tell me I'm the Pistons, I can trade away Jay Nivey, Tobias Harris, whatever salary fill is necessary, that's not part of the true core and like a pick.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: I feel like you should be able to do that trade.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: That's me saying that without off the top of my knowing what the Kawhi Linder contract is.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you don't even want this extra money.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: But like if Kawhi Lin's available, I think that's a sneaky, interesting dude.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: And maybe it could be 2.0 where he gets another lightning in the bottle.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm healthy this season and I win another championship type of thing.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: But now as a co-star versus the number one guy.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, uh Clippers, bad vibes, bad vibes, bad vibes.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: Next team on the list again.
29:01
SPEAKER_01: I mentioned it, it is the Golden State Warriors.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: They did get a win the other night versus a really solid Phoenix Sunseam.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: You gotta tip your hat to that one.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: Can I just I think I've said this before?
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Draymond Green, when it comes to the basketball player, I I I especially in his prime.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about it.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about his prime.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: I I thoroughly enjoyed Draymond Green as a ball player.
29:25
SPEAKER_01: Even now, he gives you those moments of brilliance on defense and even on offense as a passer or so on.
29:31
SPEAKER_01: I feel as though the encore product is not, has not been worth the other antics.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: And I'll just leave it at that.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll just leave it at that.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: It's it's he's the past the prime thing.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: The other game, uh, the other day I watched him play a game, he had eight goddamn turnovers.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm like Draymond, bro.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: I know this what you do.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: You try to make the the the tough pass because the tough pass could lead to a nice bucket.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: But at some point, some point the offense in itself, the whole Warriors offense, cannot account for all of the turnovers.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Back in the Steph Curry prime, when they had all of these dudes between Klay Thomas and Steph Curry, even when you add in Kevin Durant, you can offset having a lot of turnovers because the offense was so damn good in the possessions where you did not turn the ball over.
30:15
SPEAKER_01: Now we're at the point now, the game they lost the other night.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm off the top of mind, I cannot remember who it was against.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: They let they it was a game where they lost like 98 to 99 or something.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: It was something like that really low-scoring game.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: In that game, the opposing team had 30 points off turnovers.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: 30.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: A third of that team's points came because you couldn't protect the ball.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking Droyman, I'm just talking team in general.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: And I can't help to every time I look at this Warriors team and I talk about the Warriors to bring up the fact that Steph Curry said, I don't want my career to end in Kobe's way, where Kobe was still really good, but on bad, bad teams, and we just watched it because it was Kobe.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: I want to stay competitive.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: And this team is not that.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Even with their win last night, they're still below 500.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: This is a sub-500 team.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: That's nuts to me, man.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: The vibes cannot be high over there.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: And though Jimmy Butler has put together a couple games as of recent, I love me to Jimmy Butler.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: He's one of my 10 favorite players of all time.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Like it's not even, he's in that top 10.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: He may be in a top five, if I'm being honest with you.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: There are so many times where I watch Jimmy and I say, bro, please just go.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: Do it.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: Stop passing out of the, if you're gonna get the post us, stop passing out of the post us.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: That's a small on you.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: Go to work.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: The games where you end up with 11 shots total, and let's say 13 shots because he got to the foul line three different times.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just not enough for what the team needs.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: And don't get me started on the young guys that's young and not showing no promise.
31:43
SPEAKER_01: Will Will Richard came into the game yesterday and gave him a little 20 ball in 19 minutes.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: He looked better than all of the other real young prospects they've been invested in combined.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: Will Richard or Podge, who would you rather have?
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Damn it.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of people probably say Will Richard.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: And he was just getting DMPs for whatever reason, Steve Kerr.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm so confused.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm so confused.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: The vibes cannot be high over there.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: Two more teams.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: I feel bad for picking on this team because I don't, I think there's only been one year of my life where this team has had good vibes, the Sacramento Kings.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: They are now the 15th seed in the conference, but maybe low-key batteries.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: They do own their own first-round pick this season.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: So hey, they might get AJ Devons or Cam Booz or the other um Peterson guy.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: But no, the vibes are pretty low over there.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: The only saving grace is that a few of their younger guys have looked really good, like Maxime Ray Nard, and then the other big fella, um Caldwell.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't has he looked good on the court, couldn't tell you.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: I just know I got a thousand gifts of him being hype after getting fouled.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: Enough.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: Somebody that plays a passing, enough.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: Sign me up for this team.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think one of the reasons why they are on this list right now, um, it's not just because of the record.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: It's like not knowing the right way out under this management group, under this ownership group.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Because the easy solution is we just trade everybody for pennies on the dollar.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Anybody that won DeMar DeRose and take them.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: Anybody that wants the bonus, take them.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: We have all of our own first-round picks for the foreseeable future.
33:05
SPEAKER_01: I think at 2031, the Spurs have the right to switch, but other than that, we have our own picks and maybe a couple more from other teams.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: You would just say, wash your hands, start the rebuild.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know if I can trust this front office and this ownership group to successfully do a rebuild.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: The one time they successfully did a rebuild, it only lasted one season and they traded away De'Aaron Fox for nothing.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: So I think that in order for fans to really feel good, I think Vivek has to sell the goddamn team.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: How many times can your team be the laughing stock at the NBA before you recognize, like, yeah, maybe this ownership stuff not for me?
33:38
SPEAKER_01: You already got the bag.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: Just get just get out of it.
33:39
SPEAKER_01: Just get out of it.
33:40
SPEAKER_01: You can still be a Kings super fan and maybe even still be involved.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: That's Mark Cuban without being a majority owner of the team.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: Vivek has to sell, bro.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: He has to sell.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: And he never will, I don't think.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: That's the unfortunate part for Kings fans.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: And last one, when it comes to the vibes being low, it's the Milwaukee Bucks.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: The Milwaukee Bucks at this moment in time are three and ten or three and seven in the last 10, two-game losing streak.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: One of these games, they put up 60 or 80 points against a really, really bad team.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: I forget, was it the wizard?
34:08
SPEAKER_01: I forget.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: It was a bad team.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Just trust me when I tell you that.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: They put up 80 points.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: And them having bad vibes is definitely on court stuff as well.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: But it's so many rumors circulating their guy that it's uh, yeah, they put up 82 points against the Nets.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: That's what it was.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: When you have so many rumors around your guy, the best player in your franchise history, it's hard to have good vibes, right?
34:30
SPEAKER_01: Whether the rumors are true, whether it's just a Schamps thing, whether it is, it's just a Giannis thing, regardless.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: It's impossible for you to load up a Milwaukee Bucks game without that being in the back of your head as a Bucks fan.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: Will we get to see our best guy be here for the next three years or so?
34:44
SPEAKER_01: And I just say Giannis is another one of my favorites.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: That's my boy.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to him.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: Keep sending those PR packs.
34:51
SPEAKER_01: We love you.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, the answers in the media are just always one foot in or one foot out, and just keeps the door open.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: And maybe that's his goal, but in my mind, if you want to go, you want to go.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: And just saying you want to go should probably be good enough.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: But when you have this one foot in, one foot out, it gets to the point where now Bucks fans are defending you as a you as a talent on this team, but maybe you don't even want to be on the team anymore.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: So the vibes aren't good.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: Just aren't good.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: And then he's gonna be offensive time, and the team might not be good enough to make it worth him staying around.
35:23
SPEAKER_01: When we come back, I'll answer your questions in our favorite segment, AskKB.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: All you gotta do is hit us up on Twitter or on Instagram with the hashtag askkb, and I'll try my very best to answer your questions.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: What do we have first?
35:43
SPEAKER_00: What does Trey Young have to do to stop this discourse about him being a negative asset around the league and about him supposedly being on the trade walk?
35:51
SPEAKER_01: The reality is it's not much he can do to stop that.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: There's not that much he can't do.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, he's only played with one game since we're back, I guess two games because they're going against the Bulls.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: Um the reality is if Trey Young cannot adjust his game, and I'm I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, I'm giving him more time.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: I can't look at his first game versus the Hornets, in which they lost, and the Hornets attacked him in every single possession.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: I can't look at that and say, Yep, trade Trey Young.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: Now, I think I just need a little bit more sample size because though this Hawks team without him was so surprising, Jalen Johnson's an all-star Nikala Jeter Walker was doing this and Yekang will hit all the streets, yada, yada, they're still very far away from being a top echelon team.
36:30
SPEAKER_01: And I think the thing that can bridge that is if Trey Young can be good.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Now, I think he can be good without having his usage rate that he normally has, without it being a heavy, high pick and roll spam team.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: And if I'm gonna give him any credit, is that in that first game back in his limited amount of minutes, it wasn't the Trey Young show.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: Of course, he got his possessions because he's still talented enough to do that, but it felt as though he was trying to fit more into what they were doing.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: And I think that is an absolute win.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: The reality of the situation is him being as bad of a defender as it is based on his positional size and everything, it's never going to account for his offense, at least at this point.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: In 2021, it did.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: It was okay.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: He was one of the best offensive systems.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: And now you're seeing his numbers as far as his efficiency drop and drop and drop and drop, where it's like, ooh, it's just not good enough.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: And it's he's always going to be in the trade rumors, specifically for the Atlanta Hawks, because he is eligible for a contract extension and they could not come to terms.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: So the natural progression of all of that is a guy that's going into one of his last years of his contract, can't come up with a contract extension.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he needs to go to another team that would give him the money that he deserves or the money that he wants.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: So it would take a lot, if I'm being honest with you.
37:37
SPEAKER_01: It would take a lot.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: But I still think that there's there's a there's a way for Trey Young to still be that guy.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, well, I'm looking at their box score as they're playing against the Chicago Bulls, and they're down by 12 to the Bulls right now already.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: So hey, I don't know how the game's gonna win, but you never want to be down to the Bulls ever.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: They do blow leads though.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: So um give it more time, but it will be really hard for him to get out of that.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm being honest with you.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: The reality is, though, him getting traded feels like a less of a likelihood as well, because A, teams either have their real point guard of the now andor the future, or teams will probably be scared away from Trey Young and his playstyle without seeing a good enough sample size to feel like he can adjust.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: So he probably won't even get traded, even though he will be in a lot of trade roamers.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: It's a very interesting um conversation and phenomenon.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: The next question comes from my boy Nutter331.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: That his last name is Nutter, y'all.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: That's like that's just that's legitimately his last name, if I'm not mistaken.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, let's say hypothetically, Denver loses in the Western Conference Finals instead of running the back, the front office wants to be buyers in the offseason.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: They will have two tradable first-round picks, bigger contracts, and a couple young pieces.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: If they were, if you were in the front office, who would you pair with Jokic?
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, brother.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: We did an episode of Numbers on the Board where we were ranking jobs, right, in the NBA.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: All if all 30 jobs were available as a general manager, which jobs would you like to take and which jobs would you stay away from?
39:02
SPEAKER_01: And one of the last teams on that list was the Nuggets.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: Not because of lack of talent, like some of the teams around them in that last year, but because we can't figure out what the hell you do next.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: In the hypothetical world, if they lose in the conference finals or the second, second round, I would be frozen in that GM spot.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: I truly would be frozen because I thought that the best thing they could have done was what they did do and trade for Cam Johnson.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: And Cam Johnson slowly found his rhythm.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: He's not averaging 25 points per game like Michael Porter Jr.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: over in Brooklyn, but he has found his rhythm.
39:34
SPEAKER_01: He's back up to 40% from three-point shooting, even though he missed that layup on the full court pass.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: 24 hours after he was on the Zach Lowe's pod, and he said, I've never done that.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I would be frozen in time.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Because when you have a guy like Nicole Jokic, the best player in the league, or one of the best players in the league, depending on how you view the league as of today, you feel obligated to continue to buy.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: And I would try to do that, but you've seen teams' windows close like this if you buy on the wrong player.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: The Lakers won a championship the next year, had a really successful season given all of their injuries.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: They made the trade for Russell Westbrook and their window closed like that.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: And in real time, I would say 80% of NBA fans said that's a really good get.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: The Lakers just had a season where everybody was injured.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Russell Westbrook is never injured, and he's always gonna help you be good.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: And that was the worst pairing ever.
40:21
SPEAKER_01: And it closed that LeBron James Anthony Davis window of the Lakers.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: If you are the owner of the guy making the decision for the Nuggets, you make the wrong decision, and that window can close.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: So get me away from that job, J.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: Nutter.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be the guy to make the decision.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: But what I will do is I'll critique it.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, yeah.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Whoever does make the decision, I'm gonna tell you if you're winning or losing that trade.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: And guess what?
40:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm probably gonna be wrong, but I'm gonna do it.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: The next question comes from Exo3U2.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: He said, who says, What is your top five highlight reels all time across any sport?
40:52
SPEAKER_01: What a question, man.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, honestly speaking, I don't know much highlight reels outside of the game of basketball.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: The only one I know, and it is on my list, is that Tavon Austin mixtape, man, from back when he was in college, bro.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm not again, I'm not a college football guy, never really have been, but I remember as a kid, that came out.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, I wasn't even a kid.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: That came out like 12 seasons ago, 12 years ago.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Dang.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: I remember seeing it and getting hype, like, oh, that guy's gonna be a stud.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what he did in the NFL.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: I know he was not a stud, though.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't, I feel like I remember what team he was on in the NFL if he was a stud, but he wasn't.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: But that mixtape was so goaded.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: The music, the cutting, it was prime mixtape era hoops.
41:36
SPEAKER_01: NFL hoops, college for hoops.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: You get what I'm saying.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: Now let's get to the ones that are NBA related or basketball related, because that's what I know.
41:43
SPEAKER_01: My favorite hoop mixtape of all time is John Wall.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Him, Austin Rivers didn't make my top 10.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, Austin.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: I know we like this kind of because we talked once one or two times at that meeting.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, he didn't make the list, but John Wall was number one.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: I remember watching that for the first time.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: And in grandma's living room, she had a computer in the corner, and it was like, you couldn't do nothing nefarious, which I it wasn't like I was trying to, but it was the screen of the TV is facing the entire living room, so everybody would see what you were doing.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: So I remember putting on the John Wall thing again, man.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: That was when I found out who Big Sean was.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Not related, but like my two memories was watching John Wall at that computer and listening to Big Sean lemonade.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Next, we had uh Zion Williamson.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: Now, at this point in time, I'm like a full ass adult watching rookie or like high school Zion.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Still love it.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: I think I had a Photoshop picture of Zion in a Bulls jersey for like a year and a half as my desktop.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: This is this is this is uh pre-kids.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: Now my kids are on the desktop and the profile picture of everything.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: But like back then I ain't had no kids, so I was like, yeah, who's the guy that we want?
42:47
SPEAKER_01: Boom.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to put him in a number one, but if he's that good, we can put him in a number one.
42:52
SPEAKER_01: Had him in the bulls.
42:53
SPEAKER_01: Now that mixtape was elite.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: Next one, this is a this isn't uh unconventional one because it may not be one that I can really pinpoint.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: But if you go back and watch the highlights of 2018 LeBron James, which is something I just did recently, so maybe this is recency bias getting into this.
43:09
SPEAKER_01: That so this the way it stems from is I was listening to Mind the Game, and LeBron said, I think the perfect version of myself was 2018.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: And in my mind, I'm like, yeah, obviously 2018 Braun was amazing, but was that really the most complete version of him?
43:21
SPEAKER_01: And I'm going back like, oh yeah, Braun spit.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: Like he's he's hitting shots, he's getting to the basket, he's hitting game.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: When is he doing everything?
43:27
SPEAKER_01: So go back, just type in 2018 LeBron on YouTube, watch every video, all of them.
43:32
SPEAKER_01: And you're gonna be like, golly, this is the peak of male athleticism, bro.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: The man was absolutely cooking.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: The last one I got is Seventh Woods.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: Don't ask me anything about Seventh Woods.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: Greg is saying Dennis Smith Jr.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: I don't I remember the Dennis Smith Jr.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: mixtape, but I can't tell you a single highlight from it.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: All these other ones, I can I see it.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: I see it in my mind.
43:52
SPEAKER_01: I remember what what Seventh Woods was doing and John Wall and Tavon Austin.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh so that yeah, that's a great question.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
43:59
SPEAKER_01: It made me Really think about some players that I ain't thought about in a very long time.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: All right.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: Next question we got from Logan.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Since Christmas is around the corner, what was your favorite present you received as a kid?
44:09
SPEAKER_01: My dad had always, and I mean, always made Christmas big for me and my siblings.
44:15
SPEAKER_01: It's so amazing.
44:16
SPEAKER_01: Um he had I had a few years where like I got a big ass TV, and I'm just thinking about what I can put plug my Xbox up into it.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: But the gift that is the most memorable, I was nine years old, y'all.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: I opened up all of my gifts at my dad's house, and I'm like, yeah, man, pops fast.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: Man, I got the I got a WWE ring, I got this, I got that.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: And he said, I got one more gift for you, but you got to come into the garage.
44:44
SPEAKER_01: Ain't no way he got me a car, right?
44:46
SPEAKER_01: Bro, I go into the garage, my dad got me a full mini motorcycle at nine years old.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I have always been a guy with high anxiety, even at nine years old.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: I was so afraid of that damn motorcycle, but I loved it.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: I absolutely loved it.
45:02
SPEAKER_01: So Pops always cooked.
45:03
SPEAKER_01: And now, me being almost 30, you couldn't pay me a million dollars to sit on a motorcycle.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: It ain't got to be moving.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm staying away from motorcycles 100% of the time.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: But as a nine-year-old from my pops, that motorcycle was elite.
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Shout out, shout out to Pops.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: When we come back, more small ball.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: Before we get out of here, let's talk about what's going on this week in basketball.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: Last week was a little bit weird, right?
45:30
SPEAKER_01: Because we did have it where the NBA Cup was in there.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: So we had a bunch of games.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: We had one game on a night, or well, two games on a night, and that just felt weird.
45:37
SPEAKER_01: Now we're back in the full swing of things.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, this is Christmas week, so we do have Christmas Day games on this Thursday, and I can't wait for it.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: But Monday, I want to remind you to tune in to the games over at Peacock.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: Tune in to the Enjoy Basketball Hour Monday through Friday, because we still doing that five days a week.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: That is 12 o'clock Eastern time.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, show some love.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Show some love to the boys.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: We got great shows going on.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: But um, let's let's talk about these games.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: I want to go straight straight to Christmas.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: Again, like a lot of the games on the slate the previous days, but Christmas is the way it goes, where you wake up.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: If you have kids, you wake up extremely early because the kids can't sleep.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: I think last year my daughter woke us up at 6 a.m.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: to open presents, and I'm like, babe, give me another hour, you know what I'm saying?
46:16
SPEAKER_01: And she did it.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you wake up, you open gifts with the you open gifts with the fam, and then basketball starts.
46:24
SPEAKER_01: And this is a second year in a row where they're doing that Disney Channel uh animations where Carnthony Towns is a character, Lelo and Stitches in the you can just watch the game with Goofy and all of these dudes.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: And I think this year, I'm gonna put it on the small monitor for the kids.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if I could get my daughter into basketball by watching the Disney version of the NBA.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: I'll get back to y'all next week on that.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: But she does not like basketball.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: She doesn't like watching basketball.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: She likes playing basketball, which is like, I guess that's a silver lining of it all.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: She would watch football me all day.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: She would even watch baseball, but for whatever reason, she does not get into basketball.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: And I'm wondering if this is the way she can do it.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I'm gonna have her watching Carl Anthony Towns versus um, I don't know, Donovan Mitchell at 11 a.m.
47:07
SPEAKER_01: in the morning.
47:07
SPEAKER_01: And I'm excited for that game.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: It would be better if the Cavs were completely healthy, but as we know, they are not.
47:12
SPEAKER_01: If I had to pick a winner, I'm picking Knicks, but none of it in the regular season matters.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: We do got Wemby versus the Thunder again.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: I think they played against each other twice this week, and that's after they played against each other in the NBA Cup.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: So we get to really see the Spurs again against this elite level team.
47:26
SPEAKER_01: We get to see the Thunder again against a really good team because right now I get, I guess, they're six and two versus teams that are above 500, a record you probably didn't expect for a team that started off 24-1.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's a great game.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: I think they cooked for these first two games, and then we get to game three, which is Mavericks versus Warriors.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: It's it's Steph Curry on Christmas, so we gotta love it.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: But boy, if there's nap potential anywhere across the board, it's this one.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: But I do like that the NBA they did it a few years back with Wimityam and everything, that they try to put the top guys, the top first overall pick guys, if it's warranted.
47:58
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we get no Zachary Reese, I say last season, but put those top guys on Christmas Day uh so the young, impressionable fans can see the next up-and-coming dude in Cooper Flag.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: So they have good game potential, don't get me wrong.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: But if you were going to pick that nap up, which I feel like most people do because you're gonna be eating, you're gonna be with family, gonna be up early.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: This is my nap game.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: And then if Steph Curry explodes for his four straight threes, wake me up.
48:21
SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll be I'll be back into it.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: The next game we got is a Houston Rockets versus the LA Lakers.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: Really good potential matchup.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, I this is crazy because the brother's been in the league for almost 20 years, or maybe 20 years, I don't know the number.
48:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm really, really loving Kevin Durant this season.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: Not that I haven't in this past, like last year I didn't love Kevin Rant.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: The year before that, I did love Kevin Durant.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: In Brooklyn, I did.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: But like this year, I'm loving Kevin Durant, man.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: The fact that he's like, I know he got into it with the Denver Nuggets people, so maybe that was the reason.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: But he's dancing on the way back from A3s, getting to the faces of players, talking his trash after games, going to the internet and talking trash.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: I just love, I just love Kevin O'Rant this season.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: What can I say?
48:58
SPEAKER_01: And I guess out of context, it's gonna feel crazy because I know the Clippers of the world are like, you love him this season.
49:03
SPEAKER_01: You ain't love him the last 20.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: I didn't love him with the Suns.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: But now he's going against the Lakers.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, Luka Doncic on Christmas.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: Was that last year?
49:12
SPEAKER_01: Two years ago, he got injured on Christmas.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: So let's knock on wood that don't happen again because we love us and Luka Doncic.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: That game should be great.
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SPEAKER_01: And you close it out with this matchup between the Nuggets and the Timberwolves.
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SPEAKER_01: It is money.
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SPEAKER_01: It's 9:30 center time that tips off by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: That's a late ass game for Christmas, but we love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, Anthony Edwards going against a team that he beat twice in the playoffs, if not mistaken, and then got to the conference.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think this is a really good slate.
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SPEAKER_01: I think only one of the games I'm not excited about, but I'll still be there unless I fall asleep.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, really good stuff, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Really good stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_01: The day before that, there's no basketball, and that's gonna feel weird.
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SPEAKER_01: I know we did have a day with no basketball like a week or so ago, but no basketball in December feels crazy, but it's the it's the eve of it all.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is probably where all NBA players really get off with the Christmas stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have Christmas on Christmas Eve because we might be playing tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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SPEAKER_01: You let me know in the comment section of some teams that have good and or bad vibes.
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SPEAKER_01: I guess you could have both, right?
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SPEAKER_01: On any given night.
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SPEAKER_01: And let me know what you think.
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