Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #147 - Classic Seger Band - Tribute to Bob Seger
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- 0:00This I hear. It we don't.
- 0:04Seriously. You.
- 0:05Got the live button clicked. How do?
- 0:11Should be music. There should do you hear the
- 0:14music? No, no.
- 0:16We don't. Nobody hears the music but me.
- 0:18You're the only one that hears the music.
- 0:20All right, well, you know, I'll, I wonder if it's going to be, I
- 0:23wonder if it's going to be a glitch in the matrix.
- 0:24Then let's see what happens. Nope.
- 0:29It let me pause it. Hey, boys and girls, this is
- 0:31Chris and Mike Show. I'm Chris.
- 0:32He's Mike. And we have Darren here.
- 0:34Who's all the way? Where you at Darren?
- 0:36I'm in UK, Eli or Ellie UK, which is about two hours out of
- 0:41London, and we're on tour right now with the Classic Seger.
- 0:47Yeah, and then what's your role in classic Seger, man?
- 0:50Are you the singer? I'm the singer, I'm the great
- 0:53Bob Seger and we got a nine piece band and we're having a
- 0:57great time over here. Right now you write all the
- 1:01music, all the songs, everything.
- 1:03Well, primary songwriter. I wish I'd be a little bit older
- 1:09right now, but. I love your hat, by the way.
- 1:12That's awesome muscle strolls. Oh yeah.
- 1:14Oh, right now we, yeah, we're very.
- 1:16Fond of that music? Got to record there a few times
- 1:19so every time I go there I pick a new a new you've.
- 1:23Recorded at Muscle Shoals. Yeah, a couple Times Now we
- 1:26whenever we do a show in the area, we always book.
- 1:29And because Bob Sneaker had a huge history there, he record a
- 1:32lot of his music with the swampers in the in the same
- 1:36room, same equipment. So we just struck a relationship
- 1:41with them and we get to go. We go there, try to go for once
- 1:46a year. That's a pretty amazing
- 1:50building. Have you have you ever met Bob?
- 1:56No so he lives where I live in in Canada we're about 45 minutes
- 2:01from Detroit right on the river not be ever heard of port here
- 2:04in Michigan. That's where right across and so
- 2:08Bob he's still currently pretty close and one of used to keep is
- 2:12a boat in Sarnia. So I, I know so many people who
- 2:15have, who have mechanics in the Marina or and he said he was the
- 2:19best guy ever and very down to earth, but I was never, ever
- 2:23invited to the Marina to meet him so.
- 2:27I kind of, I, I kind of feel, I feel like he would be a very
- 2:30down to earth, just old school, you know, leave, you know what I
- 2:34mean? I just he, since that I've seen
- 2:36him live, he's fantastic live. Just, and I saw his farewell
- 2:40tour and it was like he didn't miss a beat.
- 2:43That's like I was listening to a record, you know, aside from
- 2:46some of the little different things he did during the songs.
- 2:48But from us, from a vocal standpoint, he was spot on.
- 2:51Yeah. You've seen it.
- 2:53Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:54You had to have seen him live a few times.
- 2:56Right. Yeah, I've seen him a handful of
- 2:58times. The first one in 9096, I think
- 3:01it was when we first came out of his reti.
- 3:04You know, he gave it up for a few years to spend time great
- 3:06raising his kids. That's the.
- 3:07Tour I saw Darren. Yeah, that was amazing.
- 3:10And Kenny Earn off was on drums, which is a huge fan of him.
- 3:14And yeah, so that was probably one of the best I've seen.
- 3:17And but yeah, he's very family oriented.
- 3:20You always see him in Detroit. He's always at the Lions games
- 3:23or a Tiger game or at a concert. He's very, he's just living
- 3:28retired and living his life. Well, you know, what stood out
- 3:32to me was when Kid Rock inducted him into the Rock and Roll Hall
- 3:36of. Fame that was not amazing.
- 3:38Was just spectacular. He talked about how he was a
- 3:41family man and how he had every last dollar he ever made because
- 3:45he wasn't out there, you know, living that rock'n'roll
- 3:48lifestyle or whatever. He was just writing great songs
- 3:50and kicking ass. Yeah, he nailed that induction
- 3:55there. Yeah, it was pretty good.
- 3:59So you guys play music too? Absolutely.
- 4:03Yeah. The song you were supposed to
- 4:04hear at the beginning. What you'll hear when you hear
- 4:06the podcast. OK.
- 4:08That, that, that'll be our song. OK, Yeah.
- 4:11Sometimes, sometimes you have technical difficulties.
- 4:13But yeah, Chris and I met in the early 90s and we played for many
- 4:19years together, wrote a lot of songs, played with some great
- 4:22people like the Marshall Tucker Band and Pat Travers and Tony
- 4:25McAlpine and oh, that's awesome. Yeah, that's the classic secret
- 4:30Facebook. What a what a backdrop, man
- 4:33Beautiful. Not sure that is it's.
- 4:36That's rock'n'roll right there, man.
- 4:39Yeah, that might be downtown. The soundboard Casino in Detroit
- 4:43that might be. It doesn't matter.
- 4:46It's badass. Dude.
- 4:47You know what I'm? Just trying to myself, I haven't
- 4:49seen that one a bit and that's a that's a great.
- 4:50Such a great stage. It's it's your cover photo on
- 4:53your Facebook page, man. Oh yeah?
- 4:54Well. He's like, yeah, how much I pay
- 4:56attention. We've moved.
- 4:58On since then. Yeah.
- 5:02Hey, let me ask you a question real quick.
- 5:03Darren, you're out there portraying Bob Seger.
- 5:06What kind of legalities are involved in that?
- 5:12Are you sanctioned by his management or?
- 5:15No, we've been pretty good. And I mean, there's the tribute
- 5:18band is very popular right now, so everybody's in the same boat.
- 5:23So when we sell tickets for shows, we have to pay his
- 5:26licensing company a fee that's set up through with a, you know,
- 5:30BMI. So can all these various places
- 5:32and it's a percentage of the tickets and whether Bob sees the
- 5:36money or not, but the publishing company does.
- 5:38And that's legality. We we do everything when we do
- 5:42videos, we have a couple of YouTube videos out.
- 5:45We always put, you know, music written and performed by Bob
- 5:49Seger. And there's, I think most of the
- 5:53artists. I've never heard any trivia band
- 5:56have any issues. OK.
- 5:58Now that leads me to another question though that Chris and I
- 6:01have a problem with, because obviously we like to talk to
- 6:04musicians and we have to play music on here.
- 6:07When you release clips of you guys playing his music, you
- 6:12don't get any kind of copyright problems from YouTube or is it
- 6:16because you have management that already has that set up to pay
- 6:19those licensing fees upfront? Do you know that answer that
- 6:22question? It's so whenever we upload a a
- 6:26clip, YouTube does your due diligence and obviously Bob
- 6:31Seger's publishing companies signed off that you people, he,
- 6:36he doesn't care basically either accounted and passed the checks.
- 6:40There's no copyright issues. You guys are doing all the right
- 6:44things up front and he knows that.
- 6:46And believe me when I tell you he is getting paid by his
- 6:48publishing company. That yeah, I'm sure, yeah.
- 6:51Does he even know he exists? Maybe he does.
- 6:53I I'm not sure. But you know, I'm sure his
- 6:55management knows everything's above board anyway.
- 6:59And again, even here and in the UK, looking at the the Ticker
- 7:04reports, yeah, that has to go to the the, the publishing
- 7:08companies get their cut and what more can we do?
- 7:13No, that's really cool. I mean, you guys are doing all
- 7:15the right things. I just asked out of my own
- 7:17selfish curiosity because, you know, back in the day when we
- 7:22were playing cover songs in bars and stuff like that, and Chris
- 7:25and I never did that. We were an original band.
- 7:27But I've played well. We did do a couple covers.
- 7:30We did Roadhouse, we did Cash Cash Fever.
- 7:33Back then, nobody cared. There wasn't all this.
- 7:36You know, the only way that people are making money is
- 7:40through basically what you guys are doing, being out there
- 7:42touring and selling tickets to shows, right?
- 7:44Because there isn't a lot of money on the streaming, there
- 7:47isn't a lot of people actually buying physical copies of music.
- 7:52You got a few holdouts like Chris who still to support the
- 7:54cause and he buys everything from everybody and God bless
- 7:57him, right? But I buy the whole album,
- 8:01Darren, when I go and I buy the whole album.
- 8:02I just don't buy one song because to me, like, like back
- 8:06in the day when we had to buy albums right in CDs and and
- 8:09cassette tapes, you bought it for one song and then you had
- 8:13all these surprises because the artist would just release one
- 8:15song to get you to go buy the record, right?
- 8:18And then sometimes the lesson songs were right.
- 8:22So, so right, so prime example, when Pearl Jam dropped, I think
- 8:27it was even flow. First I was like, yeah, it's a
- 8:29decent song, but then they dropped a live I'm like, fuck, I
- 8:31love that song. So that probably to go buy the
- 8:34CD, which I opened the lyrics up and from a from a vocalist
- 8:38standpoint, that's what hooked me the lyrics because you can't
- 8:41really understand better half the time, but the lyrics hooked
- 8:44me. And so that's my gig.
- 8:46So I just don't want to stick myself in a box of oh, just one
- 8:49song. We had phenomenal dude on the
- 8:51show. I don't we Mike and I don't know
- 8:52why this guy's not not top of the charts in the country music
- 8:55world, because he's just phenomenal.
- 8:57Dave Noodle. He's got a song, The Lord of the
- 8:59Devil, that if we played it right now, you'd be like,
- 9:01that's, that's top 20, Dave. Noodle, right?
- 9:05Dave Noodle. Yeah, NUDO right, but have had I
- 9:10just bought that one song, I wouldn't have known the rest of
- 9:15his stuff. So I bought his one of his
- 9:17albums and then that song was just a single, but I drew to
- 9:21that song right away. But just just cause the title,
- 9:23man, the Lord or the devil that just spoke to me and I, I just,
- 9:28it's one of those songs, dude, that just you, you listen to it.
- 9:31If you Google it when we're done and and listen to it I I'd be
- 9:35shocked if you don't have the same feeling.
- 9:36Like why isn't this guy top 10? It's not even that.
- 9:39The rest, like the rest of his music, is outstanding and it's
- 9:42totally great quality country music.
- 9:46Yeah, kind of a it's kind of Americana country.
- 9:49Rock, Yes, Yeah. It's.
- 9:51A style he's from Idaho. But what Chris, the reason we
- 9:56keep harping on this one song and the reason I think you'll
- 9:58have the same feeling, Darren, is when you hear it, it's like,
- 10:02why is this not in movies, commercials, TV shows?
- 10:05It just has that this is America and this is, it's almost like
- 10:10this is a what human beings struggle with kind of song, you
- 10:15know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:17Good. I'm definitely.
- 10:19Always listened looking for new music to to listen to and and I
- 10:23miss that you were talking about albums, buying albums and
- 10:27growing up and every paycheck and teenager go running this in
- 10:31Canada big thing was Sam the record band and that's where we
- 10:34went to buy the albums and. Yeah, yeah.
- 10:37Tower Records in America. Yeah.
- 10:40But that's how it was. That was that was the cool thing
- 10:42about it. And before MTV came along, then
- 10:45when you went to concert, you still had the chills.
- 10:47You know, when when the band, the house lights come off, you
- 10:50know, and, and you're staying in the crowd.
- 10:52You've never seen these guys in person.
- 10:53All you don't know what they look like.
- 10:54And then they're real people, dude.
- 10:56They're real people, right? The lights come up and the
- 10:59fucking electricity in the crowd goes crazy.
- 11:01And you know, hands in the air and you can't hear the first
- 11:04song because everybody's streaming.
- 11:06Yeah. The kid, the kids nowadays, they
- 11:08don't get that. They don't know because it's
- 11:10you're so flooded with social media like, you know.
- 11:13You know the set list before you go ahead of time and and I'm
- 11:17guilty for. That story, that.
- 11:20We are too. I do too.
- 11:21Yeah, I do too, but still. That's actually a subject that's
- 11:24never come up musically on this, and Chris just nailed it.
- 11:27These kids today will never know that feeling that the three of
- 11:30us had of standing in the middle of that arena when the lights go
- 11:34down and you hear either the first drum beat or the first
- 11:37guitar chord and people like just went crazy.
- 11:42They lose their shit, man. Yeah.
- 11:44My first concert, already 7 1/2 years old in 1977, my mom
- 11:49brought me to the Kiss and Teenage Dude, and that was
- 11:55pretty good. Yeah, that was that was a good
- 11:57introduction to live music. Absolutely.
- 12:00My my my first concert. This is embarrassing.
- 12:02Was Men At Work? This summer.
- 12:08Well, at least Poison is fucking, you know, they hit a
- 12:11pinnacle in the hair rug. Like, here's a minute work
- 12:14concert. OK, we're we're at the man
- 12:16House. Am I down with Phoenix?
- 12:17Which is better than we're the Colosseum.
- 12:18OK. And I shit you not, nobody was
- 12:21standing. It was Men At Work about, I
- 12:24don't know, half an hour, 40 minutes to the show.
- 12:26They turn on all the fucking lights in the stadium, OK, All
- 12:28of them in the in the right. They they drop a giant map in
- 12:33front of the drum riser. OK, you got Colin Hayes standing
- 12:36there on his microphone pointing to the map, telling the world
- 12:40Will Australia is. I'm like, if this is
- 12:45rock'n'roll, I don't fucking like it, man.
- 12:47I don't like. It and then that next, that next
- 12:53Christmas, I think, I think my brother got me either Kiss
- 12:57Dynasty or Destroyer. And I'm like, oh, this is
- 13:00rock'n'roll. Yeah.
- 13:02And then it went it went up from there.
- 13:04But yeah, that was my first concert.
- 13:06And then my first real concert was Cheap Trick, which, you
- 13:09know, is much better than Men At Work.
- 13:11So. Oh yeah, I was, I was drugged to
- 13:13Men At Work. Cheap Trick, right, right.
- 13:15Cheap Trick. I willing went to go see you.
- 13:17So yeah, it's funny you say Cheap Trick, because that's who.
- 13:20You don't have that like Mike's point.
- 13:21I went on a tangent. Sorry, Squirrel.
- 13:24ADHD moments while we're here, you know?
- 13:26But I do like tribute bands. I didn't know that what you said
- 13:29about the tribute and how you have to pay licensing fees and
- 13:31stuff because the only. Well, this app for sure.
- 13:35Right. Well, because you figured the
- 13:36Van Halen tribute because they go all over the world, right?
- 13:40Atomic punks. Yeah.
- 13:42And I don't really. Those are the you and classics.
- 13:45Classic secret and atomic pumps are only two I can really think
- 13:47of from a tribute band standpoint.
- 13:49I mean, there's that that Pink Floyd tribute, right?
- 13:53I think what are they, Australian Pink Floyd?
- 13:57Yeah. Oh, we lost Aaron.
- 13:59We'll ask Darren. He'll be back.
- 14:01He's across the ocean and he is. Across the ocean.
- 14:03I don't know if you know this, that the underground Internet
- 14:09cable, which is more of the Internet than anything that runs
- 14:13underneath the ocean, got cut not that long ago.
- 14:16So make sure there's a repair that's keeping it going right
- 14:19now. That might be, you know, slowing
- 14:21things down. I noticed he wasn't uploading as
- 14:23fast as you and I. Oh, huh.
- 14:26Is that what happened a couple days ago?
- 14:29A couple days ago there was all kinds of shit going on.
- 14:32Yeah. And the last time you and I
- 14:33talked about we both had cellular and you had Internet
- 14:37problems when you reported the mayor that day.
- 14:39Yeah, that was right around the time that they said there was a
- 14:44they claimed it was like a terrorist.
- 14:47You know, somebody actually cut it on purpose.
- 14:49Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, You know, even like the
- 14:56Pink Floyd light show that I went to see when I lived in
- 14:58Phoenix, they would have to pay, obviously.
- 15:00Yeah. Some sort of a percentage of
- 15:03their ticket sales to. Yeah, so why we're waiting, why
- 15:08we're waiting for Darren to come back, We would be remiss if we
- 15:10didn't talk about this. The 30 arrests made from current
- 15:15and past players and referees in the NBA, which is directly
- 15:19connected with the mafia for a 30 year operation of corruption.
- 15:26This is why when they brought when they brought gambling into
- 15:29sports, I was weary. Nobody feels more vindicated
- 15:34than steel right now because he's literally been saying it
- 15:36since probably the late 80s or the early 90s for sure, but that
- 15:41shit was fixed. Well, and think about it when
- 15:43the Suns had the run with Steve Nash, all the bullshit calls
- 15:46they got against them. Remember when Robert Ori body
- 15:49checked him into the to the scoring table and there was not
- 15:53a flag or not a not a not a whistleblown right.
- 15:57So you got to look back now and think, OK, how many of these
- 16:01championship runs are Tate? I don't think the.
- 16:03Bull is, you know what conversation.
- 16:05What if you think about watching an NBA game and there's 2 1/2
- 16:10minutes left? He always uses somewhere around
- 16:122 1/2 minutes. As an example, your team could
- 16:15be down by 22 points and end up winning by 10 points.
- 16:19That doesn't happen in basketball.
- 16:21If you're playing basketball the way it was intended to be
- 16:24played, all you have to do is watch college basketball.
- 16:26If you're down by 22 points with 2 1/2 minutes left, you're going
- 16:29to fucking lose. Right.
- 16:32It's so. It's no different than the
- 16:34Giants being ahead of the Broncos 18 points with six
- 16:37minutes left. There's been two NFL
- 16:39commentators come out and say the calls.
- 16:41Look at that. Score from the first quarter to
- 16:44the fourth quarter, it's like Broncos 00000000 and then all of
- 16:49a sudden it's 13. 28 Yep. And there's two NFL commentators
- 16:54that they've come out and vocalize the fact that they
- 16:56think that the calls that were made during that that 6 minute
- 16:59span were bullshit. I'm sure a lot of it has to do
- 17:02with the gambling and the numbers and the spread and shit
- 17:05like that. I mean, I don't know cuz I don't
- 17:06really. I don't gamble like you do, but.
- 17:08No, but we can speculate. That's why we're here, right?
- 17:11And I, yeah, I completely agree with your speculation.
- 17:14And there's there's becoming too many examples.
- 17:17So now you and I within this NFL season have talked about $1.1
- 17:22billion being bet on the Packers money line, which was a record
- 17:26money line right for any single. Team right, Right.
- 17:30And now we're talking about your beloved New York Giants
- 17:34basically having the game in the bag in any other NFL season 30
- 17:39years ago. 1602 games played where the team is ahead by 18
- 17:44points in the fourth quarter with less than 5 minutes left.
- 17:47Wins the game. That was the first time it ever
- 17:49happened, correct? Right, that was the first time
- 17:52A-Team lost. There you go.
- 17:54What's that tell you? This exactly?
- 17:56It's just it's I like the fact that that this NBA stuff that's
- 18:01going on that I thought I was going to get more out of that,
- 18:03that LeBron is is in that conversation.
- 18:09I kind of did get a little kick out of that myself, to be honest
- 18:12with you. I got booted up.
- 18:13I think I'm back though. Laflop the Queen, the king of
- 18:17Flop. So you know.
- 18:19Here's the Here's the trouble, though.
- 18:21Who is everybody's hero in the NBA?
- 18:24Michael Jordan What does Michael Jordan like to do more than
- 18:28anybody on? Earth Gamble.
- 18:29Oh, Gamble so his. Name is probably going to come
- 18:32out somewhere. So here's the thing.
- 18:34I I had this full conspiracy theory back when Jordan stepped
- 18:38away for two years. Tell me, OK, so so because he
- 18:41gambles like crazy, we all know he gambles like crazy, but he
- 18:43never gambled on the game. He gambled to the golf course.
- 18:46That we know of, right? Right, Right, right.
- 18:47Right. Do we know?
- 18:48So I think, I think he owed money to some bad people.
- 18:53Yes, and that's why his dad was killed.
- 18:56Oh you and still agree on that one too.
- 18:58Speculation. I'm not, you know.
- 18:59We talked about that back in the day.
- 19:01I agree with you too. Yeah, yeah, 'cause he was found
- 19:03in a on the side of the road in a Cadillac, right.
- 19:08And then Jordan steps away for two years and goes plays
- 19:11baseball to take the attention off him and then comes back
- 19:14because I'm, he paid the debt or there was enough gap between or
- 19:20there's something with him and the commissioner saying, hey,
- 19:21you got to step away for two years or we're going to fuck up
- 19:23your legacy. I love Michael Jordan.
- 19:27Yeah, I, I just there's, but just like you.
- 19:29Asked of us. He has some skeletons in his
- 19:31closet, right? Right.
- 19:32There's nobody enjoyed watching play basketball more than him.
- 19:35I wasn't a Homer Bills, the Bulls fan.
- 19:39I, I born in Illinois. So I've watched them, you know,
- 19:42religiously as much as I watched the Sun.
- 19:44So it's kind of 1 and 2. Sure.
- 19:45Me too. But if you look back over 30
- 19:50years and all the controversies dropped, just an NBA and there's
- 19:53people are so tired of the NBA now, which I can I totally get.
- 19:56I haven't watched the NBA in years.
- 19:58I gave up after Barclay and Ange and Marley and all those guys
- 20:02are retired. That was yeah.
- 20:04I haven't watched it since then, literally.
- 20:05I think, I think I stopped the year before COVID because I was
- 20:08so tired of LeBron being the face, even though Kobe should
- 20:13have been the face because Kobe was still alive.
- 20:15They were still just, you know, LeBron, LeBron, LeBron.
- 20:17It just, it just changed, man. The game changed.
- 20:19And if all these allegations are true, This is why the game
- 20:22changed because it turned into money.
- 20:24It turned into how can we make money?
- 20:26How can we, how can we beat the spread?
- 20:28I mean 30 people man from coaches and players and and
- 20:31referees and shit. But, you know, as people here,
- 20:34I'll play devil's advocate as people lose their mind over all
- 20:38this, put yourself in that same position.
- 20:42And this is what I like to call human nature, right?
- 20:44This is what people do. Yeah.
- 20:47And it doesn't matter what subject you're talking about
- 20:49when you put that much money in front of a relatively small
- 20:54group of people when we're talking about the 7 billion
- 20:57people on the planet, Right? Right.
- 20:58So a relatively small number of people control the NBA in
- 21:02relation to humanity, right? Look at the amount of money
- 21:05they're controlling. It's just greed takes over.
- 21:08That's why it's one of the seven deadly sins, right?
- 21:10Yeah. It's not an accident that it's
- 21:14in that group. So it does.
- 21:16All I'm saying is it doesn't surprise me and it shouldn't
- 21:19surprise anybody else, believe me.
- 21:21No, your church, your politicians, your business, if
- 21:25they're at the level of the NBA, they're all corrupt too.
- 21:28On some, at some level, they just are.
- 21:31Yeah, somebody's got their hand in the pot.
- 21:34Somebody. Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:36It has to be. And I think it's on a level that
- 21:38that we haven't even really touched on yet because of, of
- 21:41what's going to go down, you know, and no.
- 21:44I thought it was fucking crazy, man, Just that it went that far
- 21:47and they actually got enough evidence to say, OK, yeah, we're
- 21:50making indictments now. Yeah, like we're fucking it up,
- 21:54man. We're going to fuck you all up,
- 21:58which is good. So I really think though, I
- 22:00think it doesn't stop at NBA. Like I said, I think it goes to
- 22:02the NFLI, think it goes to baseball.
- 22:04Of course it does. And which is the hypocrisy of
- 22:07Pete Rose. And that's kind of would explain
- 22:09why that was the guy Shoshana, we didn't talk about this, but I
- 22:13don't know how to say his name, but his.
- 22:15Yeah. But his game where he his six
- 22:17innings pitched and three at bats with three home runs and
- 22:203RBI S. So here's a fact that most
- 22:23people laughed at when they found out that the Dodgers paid
- 22:27750 million, or 7. 100 million, we broke it down.
- 22:31Remember, we broke it down per bat.
- 22:32Yes, we did, lady. $76,000 per bat.
- 22:35They've already made their money back per Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah,
- 22:39almost double. Right.
- 22:40Almost double. It's crazy.
- 22:42And look Darren's back. Oh, you can come back, brother.
- 22:44Did you see me come back a minute or two ago?
- 22:47We did. Oh no, I've been trying to.
- 22:49Better than you were talking sports, I think.
- 22:51Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, we're filling the gap
- 22:53because you know the whole thing, because the whole thing
- 22:55went down yesterday. I don't know if you know that or
- 22:56not, but the NBA, there's 30 coaches and officials and and
- 23:00and players past and present that got all, all got arrested.
- 23:03Oh, I did hear something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:05Connection with the mob and the, you know, just the whole world's
- 23:09fucking falling apart, man. Massive indictment, yeah.
- 23:13Yeah, no, that's. That's.
- 23:16Yeah, with the time change here, 5 hours, we're getting things
- 23:18later. And yeah, yeah.
- 23:21So what time is it there? It's, it's, it's 9:30 in the
- 23:24morning in Arizona. What time are you?
- 23:265. 30 for me and 5:30 in the afternoon.
- 23:29OK, Wow, wow. OK, that's cool.
- 23:32Yeah, we had. We had some people on.
- 23:34We got a show tonight at 7:30, so I'm looking forward to it
- 23:37and. Where are you playing?
- 23:39It's called the Maltings. The town's Ely, it's called.
- 23:43It's a venue's called the Maltings.
- 23:45It's a cool little place and. Is it like a theater or?
- 23:48Yeah, this is more of a theater. So last night we played in AI
- 23:51call it a cathedral, but over here it's just a a small church.
- 23:54But it was to me, it was a it was a grand one in North
- 23:59America. But as I'm.
- 24:00Sure, it was beautiful. It's coming into town here.
- 24:04There was a real cathedral and I, it was like triple the size
- 24:07and I. Oh, I bet.
- 24:09I hope I have time to tour it in the morning in the morning, but.
- 24:13Yeah, my wife loves Old Catholic, old Catholic stuff,
- 24:16old Catholic churches and things.
- 24:18Yeah, this one last night was built between 1485 and like
- 24:241510, so it's pretty. Yeah, it's pretty old and.
- 24:28How long have you been doing this, Darren?
- 24:31I think we're just around 4 years.
- 24:35Wow. So just come in, there's put
- 24:38together just, you know, during the COVID stuff there, we put it
- 24:43together and we kept on. We had the show's book and it
- 24:45kept on being delayed. I think the first show got
- 24:47delayed three times because we couldn't get in the venues and.
- 24:53How many shows a year are you averaging?
- 24:56This is not so much this year we we're shooting for 40, but I
- 25:01think we're at like 30 or so of this I, I not sure, but I think
- 25:06this few less this year. OK, so here I have I have a
- 25:09picture of the band up. Can you see that?
- 25:11Yes, yeah. You want to, you want to, you
- 25:13want to introduce your bandmates.
- 25:15Sure. I think everybody, there's
- 25:18almost everybody's in there now. So there's myself to the guy
- 25:23with the long hair on the one side.
- 25:25That's my brother Ian. Yeah, the guy on the side of me
- 25:29is Rob McLaughlin. He plays piano.
- 25:30And then we had drummer in front of the the Lounge beer beer
- 25:36cooler. There is a Steve McLaughlin.
- 25:38He's no longer with us. He's fantastic B3 player though.
- 25:42And Chris Molino, the other sax player.
- 25:46Then you got to live Gogas vocals.
- 25:48Andrew Brody does vocals and guitar.
- 25:50Then Roberto Jasmonde is a guitar player in the back
- 25:54corner. And everybody's, everybody's
- 25:58great. It was a great calm combination
- 26:02of positions and we complement each other and.
- 26:05Nice. Yeah, I bet you do a sound
- 26:08justice with all those instruments.
- 26:10Man, yeah, that's awesome. There you go.
- 26:12There's with the instruments on cue, Mike.
- 26:16Yeah, that was good. You got, yeah, you got the
- 26:19backup vocals, you got the sax, the guitars, bass.
- 26:21Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely you
- 26:24do. Because Sugar has such a fat
- 26:26sound, man. Oh, that's why I love.
- 26:28It, I mean, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, there's a lot of
- 26:32personalities, don't let me tell you, but it's.
- 26:34Sure there is. Sure there is.
- 26:36That's the part of being in a band.
- 26:37Man, yeah, there is. You guys would know that and
- 26:39that. But we know when we get on stage
- 26:41it's, you know, put everything beside and yeah, yeah, it's
- 26:45great. So what?
- 26:47What? What's I want?
- 26:48I got one. Yeah.
- 26:50What is the most received song you guys cover?
- 26:55It's got to be turn the page. OK, OK, I figured, but I just
- 26:59thought I'd ask. Yeah, then then depends where
- 27:02you are. If you go down to the Detroit
- 27:04market where we we, we try to play that at least once a year.
- 27:08There's some you know that's where Seeker got his sure God is
- 27:11starting. There is a lot of old time they
- 27:14they do not even acknowledge a silver bullet ban.
- 27:16They want to hear pre we well, we do a lot of that as well, but
- 27:21and that's cool. We're getting us more receive
- 27:23than turn the page, but we still have to throw in the five or
- 27:26six. You know the Hollywood Knights
- 27:28turn the page. Old time rock'n'roll against the
- 27:32winners, withdrawal to me or impeccable thongs.
- 27:35Yeah, yeah, Ironically, the one I don't like, I don't like, I
- 27:40don't like old, old time rock'n'roll.
- 27:42I just, I think Tom Cruise ruined it for me on Risky
- 27:44Business and I've never liked it since.
- 27:46Yeah, it took, it took a few years to get back.
- 27:50We love playing it because the sax solo, we do that, sure.
- 27:53Same as Seger does. Every time I saw Seger, it's
- 27:55like the 5th or 6th song and he does it on purpose.
- 27:58Does it get to place going nuts early?
- 28:00You'd think that would be an encore song.
- 28:03Yeah. And so we well, 4 songs in,
- 28:06we're warmed up and then we do that and that's when the place
- 28:09just really starts going nuts and.
- 28:13Nice. Yeah, it's fun to play.
- 28:14It's a fun song to play. I I admit it.
- 28:16And guitar and sax solos, really good solos in it.
- 28:22So it just but I know what you mean.
- 28:25The Tom Cruise. Movie, I think the I, yeah, I
- 28:29think, I think the logo, man, it's kind of got the whole
- 28:31classic car into it. You still got the kind of
- 28:33default. Logos.
- 28:34Awesome. The Detroit ties, if you want to
- 28:37go that far, you know it's. Cool.
- 28:39Yeah, it's taken. So if you if you get a Bob Seger
- 28:41one, it's similar but different. You know, we don't want to copy
- 28:44it, but it's the same, same style and yeah and yeah.
- 28:51Yeah, I like it. That's all your pictures, man.
- 28:53That's all the photos from your cover.
- 28:55Those were all your those were all your cover photos over the
- 28:57years, just so you know. So, hey, why we got this pulled?
- 29:00Yeah, why we got this pulled up, boys and girls.
- 29:01You can find them on X at Classic Seger.
- 29:04You can find them on Instagram at Classic Seeger Music.
- 29:08You can e-mail them at infoclassicseager.com.
- 29:11And then of course, the website isclassicseager.com, which I
- 29:13kind of figured it would be, so that's cool.
- 29:16So here's some stuff from you guys played this place.
- 29:18I played it last night. Really.
- 29:21You play? That's freaking cool, dude.
- 29:23That's beautiful, that is. Wow.
- 29:26Well, if you go to the next picture, you'll see it from the
- 29:28outside. Oh.
- 29:29Wow. Wow.
- 29:32That's amazing man, just to have that experience is so cool.
- 29:36Yeah, that's the church. That's what, yeah.
- 29:39That was last night, yeah. He's.
- 29:40Right, that would be a super upgrade in America.
- 29:45That's fantastic, man. Yeah, and it's all I was worried
- 29:49about the sound in that, but it was all, if you saw that last
- 29:51picture, it's all wood. See, there's a lot of wood in
- 29:53there. So it's warm and oh.
- 29:55I bet it sounded amazing. And after this was Ireland,
- 29:59Yeah, I was in Ireland. And you all you could say, all
- 30:01you said was all I can say Ireland is wow.
- 30:04Did you have potatoes? Did you get some potatoes?
- 30:06Because. We had a lot of there, but they
- 30:08because they would, they came to party.
- 30:10It was. Oh yeah.
- 30:12Oh yeah. Compared to.
- 30:14Motherland loves the loves the Guinness now the ale.
- 30:17They like to get their piss on for sure.
- 30:18Yeah, we've had a few. We had a few pints while we're
- 30:21there and but yeah, the Dublin crowd was so like North
- 30:26American, like they would, they came, they liked their concerts
- 30:29a lot. The Rialto.
- 30:32Yeah, I go. There you go.
- 30:33Classic Seger. Right on.
- 30:36Yeah. See, this is the cool thing
- 30:38about Facebook, man. We can pull it up and share your
- 30:40stuff and oh, where'd that go? Oh, this is your.
- 30:43Oh, this is your shows. OK.
- 30:45You'll have to be up the next time you're in Chicago.
- 30:47I'll come up and see you, Darren.
- 30:49Yeah, so you're familiar with Rialto?
- 30:52Oh yeah, I grew up. Yeah, we're.
- 30:54Both familiar. I just.
- 30:56Moved back here. Oh man, I wish we would have
- 30:58done this in August. I'd have come seen you.
- 31:00Yeah, it was at the beautiful venue.
- 31:02Like it's one of the nicest in the in the country.
- 31:04Quite a few shows there. Oh yeah, it's beautiful.
- 31:07Absolutely. OK, so I'm just scrolling.
- 31:10I'm you guys keep talking. I'm just scrolling through the
- 31:11show so people can see it. Yeah, yeah, I think.
- 31:14That's are you wrapping up in April 25th or does it take a
- 31:18break and go back on the road? I see it stops right here.
- 31:21So that's oh, you're on the like a there's more added.
- 31:25That's just all we have, OK. And now it's good.
- 31:28I think your screen might be frozen dude.
- 31:31Mine. Yeah, cuz if you're scrolling,
- 31:33we're not seeing you scroll anymore.
- 31:35You're stuck on like November. Yeah, that's why I'm kind of was
- 31:39wondering I'll. Stop sharing then.
- 31:41I'll stop sharing then. No, you're fine.
- 31:42I should fix No cuz I should fix it then.
- 31:44Yeah, there you go. You weren't.
- 31:48The screen was. Oh, OK.
- 31:50I just. I just like to share.
- 31:51You know, I'd like I told you before, Darren, we're all about
- 31:54sharing. No.
- 31:55That's great. Folks that are on the show, you
- 31:57know. Yeah, no, I think this is really
- 31:59cool because this is like a cover band on steroids right
- 32:04here. You're representing one person
- 32:06and you've taken it to a level where you're playing some really
- 32:09cool shows, man. I mean, how many people get to
- 32:12go tour Europe as a musician on any level?
- 32:14That's really. And I'm hoping so, but I'm
- 32:19putting this together as like one of EU tribute bands.
- 32:22I don't know any of this. Done it.
- 32:23I'm I've done so many calls from other tribute bands just wanting
- 32:28and I'm sure it's going to be fun when I get back.
- 32:29How do we do this? How do you And I've made some
- 32:32great contacts to you. So I'm hoping it just paves.
- 32:35You know, I've I've already made mistakes on this tour coming
- 32:37over here. You know, you learn the next
- 32:39time you go back, you look smarter and sure, I'm hoping
- 32:42that some great promoters here that we can bring some more over
- 32:46because obviously there's incredible musicians in North
- 32:50America, bands, Ezra is here. But you know what's if we can?
- 32:55So let me ask you this. Obviously you did it because
- 32:58you're a huge Bob Seger fan, but did you see a niche in the
- 33:02market that there wasn't a Bob Seger tribute band?
- 33:05Is that one of the reasons you picked it, or just more so
- 33:07because you were such a huge fan?
- 33:09I'm saying a little bit of both. Always a huge Seeger fan and
- 33:17there was there wasn't so obviously from up in Canada.
- 33:20There was only one at the time that was doing it like I can say
- 33:24at this level and they split for a bit and there was and I I saw
- 33:29that and I so I thought the and COVID is going on.
- 33:33So I said that there's nobody doing in Canada too much and and
- 33:37now they're back together that band and they're fantastic band
- 33:40as well. I just I'm sure we butt heads at
- 33:43venues sometimes, but we're all doing the, you know, doing it
- 33:47for the same thing, playing Bob Seger music and but the yeah,
- 33:51there's. Can I raise a?
- 33:53Suggestion. Sure.
- 33:55When you do your next tribute band, because you're from Canada
- 33:58and Chris is going to turn this into a drinking game, he knows
- 34:00where I'm going with this every time we talk to Canadians.
- 34:04Tell me about The Tragically Hip.
- 34:06Put one of those tribute bands together.
- 34:08Yeah, there's enough over here. It's like, really?
- 34:10Oh, they're they're. Dude, they are like, you have no
- 34:14idea how popular this band is in Canada.
- 34:16Like the Canada loves. They have a day named after
- 34:19them, Yeah. They it's funny, I never took.
- 34:23Off in the state. They didn't never took off and
- 34:27they I don't know if that was. Except for me.
- 34:29And my, except for me in my own little world and the dude that I
- 34:33had a friend that used to fly around the country repairing
- 34:36robotics equipment. OK, he used to fly around the
- 34:39world. So he went to Canada and he
- 34:42actually saw The Tragically Hip in concert back in the 80s.
- 34:47He bought their cassette at the time and he brought it back and
- 34:49he said, dude, you got to hear these guys, they're right up
- 34:51your alley. Because I like songwriting kind
- 34:54of bands where nobody is the star, right?
- 34:57The song is the star, and that's The Tragically Hip.
- 35:00The song is the star. There is no star in that band.
- 35:03No other. Than you know gourd would be for
- 35:06you guys. You know, Canada embraced him.
- 35:09Yeah, they sure didn't. He passed away a few years ago
- 35:11now, but so I saw them first time.
- 35:15It used to be a bar in Sarah called the Campbell St. station
- 35:19where all the upcoming, you know, the the was on the
- 35:21rotation and The Tragically Hip came in there on a Monday night.
- 35:25This was before they were anybody and.
- 35:28Been there, done that. They played and we got the tape.
- 35:31We can't find the tape that the sound man gave us because we
- 35:33would not. So they were doing old stone
- 35:36stuff, the Monkeys, you know, like you're stepping Stone and
- 35:39Mary Mary. They just, I think the only
- 35:43original they played that that show at that time was of their
- 35:46first album, the last American accent.
- 35:48There's a song, But we hung out with them.
- 35:51We were in the band. They came over our house.
- 35:52So the the the guitar player Baker, I was kind of seeing a
- 35:57girl at the time. So he stole that girl from me
- 35:59that night and a couple weeks later they're getting ready to
- 36:05hit a day off. So he hitchhiked from Toronto
- 36:07down to Sarnia, 3 hours to feed this girl and they brought him
- 36:09over to my house. So we're carrying on doing doing
- 36:12stuff all night. Then we had to drive him back at
- 36:153:00 in the morning to Toronto, get on the tour of us.
- 36:17But that's my tragically up story.
- 36:20But. That's awesome, man.
- 36:22I bring up a band. He has a personal story.
- 36:24I love it. Yeah, I don't have a lot, but
- 36:27yeah. They're one of my favorites out
- 36:29of Canada for sure. Yeah, yeah.
- 36:31They never made. I don't know if there's their
- 36:32management or what why they just didn't take off the states.
- 36:35They I know they tried. So with the same, it was the
- 36:39same as seeker in the early 70s, like around Detroit.
- 36:43He sold more albums than The Beatles.
- 36:45But then he would go and Florida very well, but he'd go in the
- 36:48outside the Midwest and like you'd play in front of 30,000
- 36:52people. He'd trade the next day, he'd be
- 36:53playing maybe 1000 people and nobody That was the same with
- 36:57the hip he was they're playing in the Toronto say and 20,000
- 37:01people, then Chicago and probably the luckiest 500
- 37:04people. I, I it's.
- 37:06Yeah, and all that. It was kind of it's, Yeah, it's,
- 37:09well, I think it's just the music because it's Alter Bridge.
- 37:11I'm sure you've heard of Alter Bridge, right?
- 37:12The, the basically the, the band Creed with Miles Kennedy as a
- 37:15singer. That Creed's huge in the United
- 37:17States, right? Creedo, Creedo fill Madison
- 37:19Square Garden three nights in a row.
- 37:21No problem. Alter Bridge will play a 2500
- 37:24seat venue here and pack it. Then they'll go overseas and
- 37:27they'll sell out Wembley three nights in a row.
- 37:30So what's the difference between Alter Bridge and Creed?
- 37:32It's just a vocalist. Miles is a better singer in my
- 37:35opinion. Stabs a little, you know, office
- 37:37rocker, which is cool because I love Creed.
- 37:39When they came out because our band was, we people ask what we
- 37:43sounded like. I was like, well, we always, we
- 37:44were kind of Creed before Creed was Creed just from the writing
- 37:46standpoint and lyrically. And I had a better range than
- 37:49stop. But it's it's it makes no, it
- 37:52doesn't make any sense, right? Because you have the exact same
- 37:54core musicians, just Miles Kennedy, who has a better voice,
- 37:57better range, and can do a lot more vocally than Stop could
- 38:00ever do. But in the United States,
- 38:02they're just like, yeah, OK, you know, 5-10, maybe 15,000 seat
- 38:06venues. But overseas they venues.
- 38:09But you know as well as I do that it timing is everything,
- 38:12man. Oh, absolutely.
- 38:13Chris is right. And I wear this with a badge of
- 38:16honor and I have for a long time.
- 38:18We had their idea long before they did.
- 38:21We also, I also had the idea of Evanescence long before they
- 38:24did. They got there before I did,
- 38:26right? I said if you take a kick ass
- 38:29tight metal band and you put a beautiful woman with a great
- 38:32voice in front of that band, it'll sell like hot cake.
- 38:35Yeah, it's good. So in the middle of the grunge
- 38:38revolution, Chris and I were like, if we just play straight
- 38:41ahead rock'n'roll, people are going to eat it up because
- 38:44they're going to miss it at some point.
- 38:45And they did. So timing is everything too
- 38:47right? Yeah, Yep.
- 38:51And, and the fact that we wrote how we wrote, we didn't write.
- 38:54We write like like how Bob Singer writes.
- 38:56It's life. You don't it's not a lot about
- 38:58getting laid and partying. And you know, it was we wrote
- 39:01about life. Everything that I wrote about
- 39:02lyrically had had had reason behind it and substance behind
- 39:05it was just, you know, it wasn't, you know, we weren't Van
- 39:08Halen lyrically, right? You know, we're beautiful girls
- 39:11and shit because Van Halen did that.
- 39:12Yeah. You don't need another Van
- 39:13Halen. We always say there's nothing
- 39:15wrong with that. We love listening to that as
- 39:17much as. Anybody.
- 39:18We wanted to say that if you really listen dive into Bob
- 39:22Seger songs. He was talking about getting
- 39:23laid a lot. He.
- 39:25Oh, he is. He is.
- 39:26But the way he does it, yes, right.
- 39:28That's what I'm saying. Kind of like Bob Scott did in
- 39:30ACDC. It was very innuendo when he was
- 39:34in the band. And then if you think about it,
- 39:36when Brian Johnson came in, the man, they were like, fuck it,
- 39:38we'll just say this is what we're doing.
- 39:39Right, Right. Right.
- 39:41But I always appreciated Bond Scott's innuendos, just like Bob
- 39:45Seger's innuendos. Like the song that would get me
- 39:48going for Bob Seger, if you play that one, is her strut.
- 39:51I love that, too. Yeah, that's the attitude of I'm
- 39:54going to get that chick without being gross about it.
- 39:58Right. Yeah, that's a good song.
- 39:59Yeah, we're not doing that over here now, but we do that quite a
- 40:03bit. That's a great song.
- 40:04But. Tell the boys you're going to
- 40:07throw it in the set list tonight.
- 40:08For we could. We could, yeah.
- 40:10I like that one. It yeah, got a great groove to
- 40:13it. Yeah.
- 40:15Excellent guitar. Like I'm a guitar player, so I'm
- 40:18going to gravitate towards a really cool guitar parts.
- 40:21Yeah, that's one of the heavier one that's from Against the
- 40:23Window. I'm thinking that's one of the
- 40:24heavier songs on it and. For sure.
- 40:27Yeah. The one that would, the one that
- 40:30really makes my hair stand on end is Night Moves.
- 40:33And just because I was a kid during that time when that came
- 40:36out and you were at that, we were all at that age, you know,
- 40:39that he was talking about it. Just I love the feel of that.
- 40:44We always talk about the space between the notes, right?
- 40:47There's so much space in that song.
- 40:49It just, I don't know, it's one of those perfection kind of
- 40:53moments, you know? Yeah.
- 40:55So yeah, he recorded that one in Toronto, that song.
- 40:59The rest of the album was done in Muscle Shoals we talked
- 41:01about, but he Jack Richardson was a famous producer out of
- 41:08Toronto. He worked with guess I guess who
- 41:11anybody like you the list and they they just wanted to change
- 41:16up. So he went drove all the Toronto
- 41:18to meet him and he's a started strumming that he said this is a
- 41:21song we're going to work tonight.
- 41:22So he didn't. One night he brought positions
- 41:24back in, never met Seeger, any of them, and they recorded that
- 41:29and drawn A1 night. Then he drove back-to-back to
- 41:31the States and that was the biggest song, that's what.
- 41:34That's crazy. I don't.
- 41:35Know that's what made it for him, yeah.
- 41:37Night Moves is the one that broke him out.
- 41:39Yeah, so live bullet album. Right on.
- 41:41Yeah, the live album came out in 76.
- 41:44Yeah, my bullet and that started to get some traction and then
- 41:49about six months later, Night Moves album came out and that's
- 41:51just and this that song particular and then it all says
- 41:54rock Main Street on it. Rock'n'roll never forgets.
- 41:56Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Main Street's the
- 41:58coolest song. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 42:00Yeah, there's another one that just the space between the
- 42:03notes, you know? Yeah, keep it.
- 42:05Keeps you lulling along with the tune all the time.
- 42:10Yeah. So that's one of the ones we
- 42:11when we first found it, which Muscle Shoals we played, we
- 42:14record. And then you had that stents at
- 42:19the same piano, some of the and this song probably was not
- 42:23played in this room again since 1975.
- 42:26And you just, it was just, you know, it's a nerd musician
- 42:29moment, I guess, but. Well, there's a great no.
- 42:31There's a great example talking about a nerd musician moment.
- 42:34If you speed that song up, even like two or three beats a
- 42:38minute, it would ruin the whole song.
- 42:39That's a great example. For musicians and songwriters,
- 42:43tempo is everything. Right.
- 42:44Yeah, it's having a great, having a great producer with
- 42:49him, Punk, Punk. Andrews was always his manager
- 42:52and producer and they had the right people.
- 42:54You need somebody listening for that, you know, make sure you're
- 42:56And I'm sure he had his own. He knew that himself as well.
- 43:00But you're 100% right. That's what it ruined that song.
- 43:07Yeah, I'm one of those musicians who I've always been open to
- 43:09constructive criticism because I, you know, I just, I know I
- 43:13don't know it all. And I count on those people that
- 43:16Chris will say that sometimes when we're writing songs, it's
- 43:18like it's either too fast or too slow.
- 43:20I need you to speed it up, man. I'm running out of air.
- 43:23You know, he'll make a joke about it instead of, you know,
- 43:27there was no egos in our band. So instead of being an asshole
- 43:30about things, we would just say it in a funny way.
- 43:32He's like, you got to get through that section a little
- 43:34faster. I'd, you know, I've only got so
- 43:36much breath. I'm a human being, you know?
- 43:38Yeah, Yeah. No doubt, no doubt.
- 43:43Yeah, so how, how many more dates do you have left on this
- 43:46tour? I think we have 7 shows left
- 43:50while we're here in a week and 1/2.
- 43:52So it's a lot. It's busy.
- 43:54And the coolest thing though, and it's coming up on Monday, we
- 43:59get to read, we're talking about being able to record their
- 44:02Muscle Shoals. I think this trump's out for us
- 44:06nerve positions and we get to record at Abbey Road Studio now
- 44:10and Studio 2. So when you go record, like when
- 44:13you record a Muscle Shoals and now you're going to record at
- 44:15Abbey Road, what are you? What are you recording?
- 44:16You just doing covers, are you? Doing we're just doing seeker
- 44:18promo, we're doing our promos and do videos and I don't care
- 44:21for recording there. I just want to sit in that room.
- 44:25That's so. Cool, I'm with you man.
- 44:26Just a nerd. Look at the gear.
- 44:28Hey turn everything on, I want to see the light.
- 44:31Yeah, but that's a lot of the same equipment.
- 44:33And studio, Studio 2, that's the The Beatles one.
- 44:37That's where they recorded 99% of the stuff.
- 44:40And right on, they said if that one was booked, this is months
- 44:45ago, they said if you can't have that one, we can offer you
- 44:47Studio 3. And I'm looking at that wall.
- 44:49That's where Dark Side of the Moon was next and recorded.
- 44:51So that would have been a good second.
- 44:55There was a show that I used to watch.
- 44:57I don't, I can't find anymore. It's called the it's, it was
- 44:59called Inside Abbey Road. And they would have.
- 45:01They would have. That's how I was introduced to
- 45:03Damien Rice. Do you know who Damien?
- 45:04Rice. Yeah, I know the name.
- 45:05Yeah, OK. Irish, Irish singer.
- 45:08He's fantastic. Do you?
- 45:12Oh, what the hell is his name? I'm going to butcher the name
- 45:16Gerardo Clay or something. A really cool soul RB guy, but
- 45:19had a rock hit flip to it. Goo Goo Dolls was in there.
- 45:25It was one of those things I like watching.
- 45:30Not so much rock humidities, but I like, I like like I could, I
- 45:32could. Mike and I have talked about
- 45:34there needs to be a streaming platform with just access to all
- 45:37the musicians, all their stuff, all their videos, their tours,
- 45:41all the genres of music. Just like an MTV on steroids,
- 45:44because MTV sucks ass now. But it's just something where
- 45:46you could dial up. Like you can go to YouTube Music
- 45:48and I can dial up shit, but it'd be cool just to have Alphabet
- 45:51Cadillac boom. But it was really cool, just
- 45:54music. Right.
- 45:55But it was really cool because you were inside the studio,
- 45:57right inside Abbey Road. And they would show the whole
- 46:00studio sounds, Then the bands would they'd play a song and
- 46:03then they would talk about the studio experience and talk about
- 46:05the song. They'd only do like 3 songs and
- 46:08it was usually two or three bands per the, the, the 40
- 46:11minute episode and they'd all play two or three songs.
- 46:14But it's really cool because you could just kind of you could see
- 46:17as a viewer the impact that being in that space has on them
- 46:21because it's like so much history, so much music has come
- 46:25out of that building over the years and the spirits that's got
- 46:27to be in there and the vibe and just because that's the biggest
- 46:31thing about us two years, right? The vibe and the and and just
- 46:33how you feel when you walk in and just, you know, it's like
- 46:36the first time we played the Mason drug this place in in in
- 46:39Phoenix. I didn't realize that Pearl Jam
- 46:40was on the stage and I'm they have these photos all over the
- 46:43all over the bar inside and of the bands that played.
- 46:46And so before the show, I was walking around and looking at
- 46:49the band. My holy shit, Eve, Eddie stood
- 46:50there, you know, and at the time Eddie Vedder was one of my vocal
- 46:53like, Oh, so that one. Went through there, Nirvana went
- 46:56through there, Tool went through there just.
- 46:59Amazing. Huge bands that went on to sell
- 47:01millions and millions of records.
- 47:03Yeah, and you can you and you feel that, right?
- 47:06You feel the vibe, you feel the like when when my last band is
- 47:09and we recorded 4 songs at Dolly Parton studio in Nashville and
- 47:13you walked in and you just, you just knew.
- 47:14Like holy shit, there's the hallway between the the vocal
- 47:19booth and the the band part because everything was recorded
- 47:21live and and the producers room, you know the boards and shit.
- 47:24The whole hallway was written and autographed and signed.
- 47:27Yeah, I love that. And and and you can't recognize
- 47:30some of the signatures right, because you're sloppy, but you
- 47:32know I can I see my hand, my signatures on a wall in Dolly
- 47:36Parton pseudo. But it was just so you just felt
- 47:38it right. You just you just felt like this
- 47:40place is just you're just like something's going to happen
- 47:42here. That's bad ass because you're in
- 47:44this element where all these creative juices have gone
- 47:47through and they've and they've left a piece of their soul on
- 47:49the wall and that just bleeds into everything.
- 47:51Cheesy, I know, but that's. Just no, I exactly know.
- 47:55Yeah, Less if we record on Monday.
- 47:57I just want to be in that room and look at the yeah.
- 48:00Yeah, just laying the floor like, oh.
- 48:02Yeah. And that those are some, those
- 48:04are feelings only a musician can understand, right?
- 48:07Because if somebody who has has not put the passion of a
- 48:10lifetime into music that the three of us have, they would
- 48:14just be standing there going well, yeah, I mean it.
- 48:16It's cool. But.
- 48:17Yeah, but like my wife, my wife brought her about.
- 48:19I'm pointing, you know, I'm a little kid and she's.
- 48:21Yeah, that's cool. That's that's something you're
- 48:25staying on a carpet, you know? Interesting.
- 48:30Yeah, that's. Awesome.
- 48:33Yeah, but you got to be nerds about something, and there's
- 48:36worse things. There is, absolutely, yeah.
- 48:40Yeah, so it sounds a healthy addiction.
- 48:42It is. So what's the future for Classic
- 48:44Seger Darren? We're just booked.
- 48:49We're booked just starting into 2027 and wow, we're just, as I
- 48:57mentioned, we talked about Night Moves album and I mentioned a
- 49:00live bullet. They both turned 50 next year.
- 49:03So we're doing some, we're going to do some dedicated shows of
- 49:07just doing those albums and just switch it up a bit and just see
- 49:15what happens. Yeah, we're just booking and
- 49:17cool. I'm going as long as we can.
- 49:22We don't know if we're done tomorrow or we're just going to
- 49:25go as long as we can. So is this all your guys's full
- 49:29time jobs or do you plan this around jobs that you have?
- 49:32Most little of both. A lot of people are retired and
- 49:41some of us like myself with all we do and a few people have jobs
- 49:45that they can book around. OK.
- 49:48So with we we give as much notice and we we play with sub
- 49:53positions as well that fill in. So if we have enough time, and I
- 50:00think we've used almost everybody, you know, if we need
- 50:02a guitar player can't make it, we have musicians as know the
- 50:06material that sets in so. Well, I was just curious because
- 50:09it seems like at the level you guys are playing it, it wouldn't
- 50:12be a full time job for most of you at least, yeah.
- 50:15It it is and but you know, people have family vacation
- 50:20stuff too. So yeah, we just, it's very
- 50:22common that we use a sub player and we prefer the original guys
- 50:27obviously and it's because. Yeah, you get used to playing
- 50:32with the same guys, right? Sure.
- 50:33But it's fun playing with new people too, so.
- 50:36Sure. Yeah, yeah.
- 50:37So I'm I'm I'm showing your website as you guys are talking.
- 50:40So I'm on the I'm on the the song list.
- 50:43So these. Are beautiful loser.
- 50:45Come on, how did I forget? That Yeah, right, right against
- 50:47the win down below. Yeah.
- 50:49See, there's another one Chevy could have ruined against the.
- 50:52Wind for everybody. Don't let them do that.
- 50:53Roll me away. Roll me away.
- 50:56Roll me away. Fantastic song.
- 50:57Yeah, that's one of my favorites.
- 51:00Yeah, Romeo Way's pretty. I mean, you were talking about
- 51:04the biggest, that one very well well known song and right,
- 51:09right, OK, so. I see one there.
- 51:12Hold on one second, OK. Give me your opinion on
- 51:15Shakedown. Amazing song to play our.
- 51:20Guitar player just shreds in it. You got to listen to the you got
- 51:25to listen to the live version. Is that the Yeah, there's a live
- 51:31version that he does. It's different from the Beverly
- 51:33Hills Cop. It's, you know, it's yeah, he
- 51:36played yeah when he played Shake down here.
- 51:38On the on his farewell concert that that did it got the crowd
- 51:41rolling. Strut was funny.
- 51:43The story is sold. He told about her strut.
- 51:45He didn't realize that was being being played in the strip clubs.
- 51:49And then in the year that they came out, one of the 80s, I, I
- 51:52want to say 88, don't quote me. He won a Grammy or something for
- 51:55that or American some some award based on that as they had the
- 51:58most plays on the radio or something.
- 52:01And so when he's talking about it to the crowd, he's like, he's
- 52:04explaining all that and you know, we're like, what song is
- 52:07he talking about? And then he's like, I'd love to
- 52:09watch her struts, you know, and but they made sense, right?
- 52:13But stripper picks up that song. Absolutely.
- 52:16What are they doing? They're strutting.
- 52:18Oh, the great roof word too, so I may.
- 52:21Not have heard that song in a strip club.
- 52:23Myself, right? We may or we may or may not
- 52:26have. Yeah.
- 52:27That song just needs to be updated.
- 52:29I'm glad you showed that. You're welcome.
- 52:31I'm here to help Darren. A lot of new stuff we.
- 52:34We do other than that. He provides a great public
- 52:37service, Darren. Yeah.
- 52:38Yeah, I'm here to help. You gonna send me the?
- 52:41Bill. Mate, no.
- 52:43Not at all. Just you ever come to Arizona?
- 52:45Reach out and I'll bring the wife.
- 52:46We'll check you guys out. Absolutely.
- 52:48You ever go to Chicago? Reach out to Mike.
- 52:50We'll love that. Come hang out.
- 52:51Yeah. You know, this is.
- 52:52That's the cool thing about this is I really.
- 52:55Hope that you know, I know you guys are going to keep playing
- 52:57so when you come back around again, if you're near Chicago or
- 53:00Peoria, it's cool to be able to come out and see you guys.
- 53:03You know, we've had comedians and musicians and really like to
- 53:07pay back, you know, and 100% you guys do definitely.
- 53:11Make it happen. And yeah, it's too bad we
- 53:14didn't. Like you said, we just played
- 53:16outside Chicago there last month.
- 53:17That would have worked out fine. Yeah, it's crazy.
- 53:20That picture is that recent. That's awesome.
- 53:24That stage is. Just and there's and there's my
- 53:26favorite one. And that's how we're going to,
- 53:28that's how we're going to wrap this puppy up, boys and girls.
- 53:30That's Darren from Classic Seger.
- 53:32Check them out. Classic segerband.com.
- 53:34They're booking shows and playing shows until 2027.
- 53:38They're going to start doing some 50 anniversary tours
- 53:40related to night moves and the live the live bullet, correct?
- 53:44Correct. Yeah, correct.
- 53:46So. We wrap up every show like this.
- 53:47If you're feeling sad, depressed or suicidal, don't do it.
- 53:51Go scream at a pillow. Go run, go journal, go work out.
- 53:54Call somebody. If you can't get a hold of
- 53:55somebody, text 988. Someone will miss you.
- 53:58You will leave a hole in someone's heart because someone
- 53:59does love you and care about you.
- 54:01And tomorrow is a better day with you waking up in it for the
- 54:04Chris and Mike show. I'm Chris.
- 54:05He's Mike and that's Darren from classic Seger.
- 54:07Check them out live. I'm sure you'll be blown away.
- 54:10Super nice guy. We love to have you on the show
- 54:13when you come back to the States sometime in the next in 2026.
- 54:16Let's get you back on and and we can talk more about your your
- 54:18European Tour and how fantastic it was.
- 54:20Sound sound like a plan. That sounds awesome.
- 54:23Appreciate it. Guys, thanks again for coming.
- 54:25On Darren, appreciate it. Thanks.
- 54:27Peace. Love you brother, love you to
- 54:29your brother. Peace.
- 54:44Behind. Your eyes take.
- 55:03A moment. Come down here, we haven't found
- 56:41salad and sand from fighting. Wait for the dead when it's
- 56:49closure out of the wind. You ain't no creaser.
- 56:54We'll play and smile. You could you put on the
- 56:58almighty day. You got a dream true in your
- 57:03life to keep a soul in every man.
- 57:09Take the trail behind your eyes. Feel the soul evolution now.
- 57:14Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 57:26Take a moment. Look at you.
- 57:29See you, see you fight the battle into you more clear.
- 57:59You gotta. You gotta.
- 58:01You gotta. You gotta.
- 58:03You gotta.