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BONUS RADIO: All About Sports - Trailblazers, Exhibits & The Art of Winning · That KEVIN Show

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Speaker 1: From the birthplace of radio's greatest era. Now from New York,
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Speaker 1: It's Radio Night Live with Kevin McCullough. Unlike anything else
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Speaker 1: one to eleven eight. Hears Kevin McCullough.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome aboard. It's the Friday edition of Radio
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Speaker 2: Night Live.
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Speaker 3: It's fun.
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Speaker 2: Kevin mccallaugh, glad to be with you. Christine Nicholas is
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Speaker 2: back with us, and Christine for me. It was the
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Speaker 2: second short week in a row. Now this we had
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Speaker 2: the holiday on Monday, but last week I had the
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Speaker 2: injury that I was out for a couple of days.
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Speaker 4: So I've had you're not seeing the.
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Speaker 2: Bruising that's still there, but we're we're going down inch
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Speaker 2: by inch, day by day.
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Speaker 3: But thank you for that.
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Speaker 2: And yes, I can actually bite into things now, so
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Speaker 2: I can you know, like I can't eat an apple yet,
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Speaker 2: but I can bite through a sandwich. So it's you know,
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Speaker 2: we're getting there one, one little bit at a time.
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Speaker 2: So we're talking sports tonight, very excited about this, and
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Speaker 2: I was trying to think, well, what would be a
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Speaker 2: good thing to bring to the Open. It might be
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Speaker 2: that on Memorial Day we all went to the America
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Speaker 2: Dream Uh you know in the swamp lands what they
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Speaker 2: call it meatlands.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 2: My my family was intent on playing black light golf.
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Speaker 2: You have ever played black light mini golf? It's it's
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Speaker 2: mini golf, but you play it in black light. So
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Speaker 2: wearing white it like shines purple.
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that sounds fun.
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Speaker 2: And my son, who has gotten a little bit, he's
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Speaker 2: he just started dabbling with the golf thing a little bit.
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Speaker 2: He's a very very good putter, was talking smack. My
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Speaker 2: bride was talking smack. They were saying how much they
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Speaker 2: were going to beat everybody by, And I just want
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Speaker 2: to say that on a par three mini golf putting course,
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Speaker 2: good old Dad, injuries and all shot a thirty six
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Speaker 2: on eighteen holes. You do the average. That's that's good.
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good score for.
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Speaker 6: How many holes in one? Did you have?
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Speaker 3: None?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Okay, so't he didn't see. I'm all over the place.
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Speaker 4: I'll get a hole in one and then I'll have
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Speaker 4: a five.
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Speaker 3: Take that back.
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Speaker 2: I had one at the very end, but I had
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Speaker 2: I had all The rest of the scorecard was twos
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Speaker 2: and threes and.
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Speaker 4: It was.
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Speaker 6: Windmills. Were there any like things that jumpout?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 2: There were a couple of jump scares. If you go
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Speaker 2: to the geam even play the black Light golf, tell
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Speaker 2: me what you think of it. I mean, it's not
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Speaker 2: a super difficult course, but yeah, what it was. What
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Speaker 2: was fun was like just knowing that just because my
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Speaker 2: family talks smack the whole day going you, I could
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Speaker 2: still I could still focus through it, through all of
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Speaker 2: it and just you know, yeah, slice them for the wind.
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Speaker 3: So that's what we did.
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Speaker 6: Nice. Yeah, And when.
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Speaker 3: We were leaving.
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Speaker 2: The reason that this got in my mind was as
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Speaker 2: we were leaving, we're going past the met Life and
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Speaker 2: you know what the big sign is on the side
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Speaker 2: of it right now, FIFA World Cup twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's in huge pass.
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Speaker 6: If you didn't know, if we didn't know.
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Speaker 3: So now it's uh.
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Speaker 2: And my my middle guy, Jonathan, he was like, wow,
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Speaker 2: the World Cup's going to be here.
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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, he goes, what is it? I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I love you. You're a true American kid. You don't
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Speaker 3: know what soccer is, and you and you want to
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Speaker 3: know more.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 6: It is great.
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Speaker 2: Over the they know what soccer is, but Americans were
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Speaker 2: still kind of dragging our feet when it comes to it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe after this it'll change a little bit.
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Speaker 4: And as long as we don't have to call it football,
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Speaker 4: because then it's really going to get condected.
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Speaker 3: Now you're going to start family fights. We don't call
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Speaker 3: the cat in this house, it's soccer.
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Speaker 4: Sadly, wow, Well it's been a you know, look, we
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Speaker 4: are moving into the Tony season, right, So the Tonys
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Speaker 4: are next Sunday, and so I'm trying to see as
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Speaker 4: many shows as possible. So, uh, last Saturday I saw
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Speaker 4: two shows, The Jellica Ball Cats, Yeah and then it
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Speaker 4: was it was interesting. I mean, it was very it
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Speaker 4: was very exciting, and the music is great. Andre de
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Speaker 4: Shields kind of like stole the show. It's you know,
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Speaker 4: but it's cats, I mean, and if you love cats,
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Speaker 4: you'll love it.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: So anyway, Buddy Buckley said she thought it was well done,
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Speaker 2: so you know.
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Speaker 6: It is well done. It is.
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Speaker 3: You have to take away well.
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Speaker 4: And then afterwards we jumped into the Celebrity Autobiography, which
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Speaker 4: is sort of a filler show at the Schubert Theater,
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Speaker 4: and it is it was just ridiculously funny. It was
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Speaker 4: about celebrity autobiographies. And then these these stars just go
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Speaker 4: on stage and they read from the autobiography the words
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Speaker 4: that these folks wrote, like Neil Sidaka and biographies, and
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Speaker 4: they just read passages from them. But they sound so
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Speaker 4: ridiculous that it's hilarious, like Gwyneth Paltrow on the Red
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Speaker 4: from well, Gwyneth Paltrow, Neil Sidaka, David Hasselhoff, Debbie Reynolds,
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Speaker 4: Eddie Fisher, and Elizabeth Taylor.
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Speaker 6: And so they did a mash up with those.
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Speaker 4: Three was as you know, Debbie Reynolds, Eddie Fisher left
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Speaker 4: Debbie Reynolds for Elizabeth Taylor. So then all three have
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Speaker 4: written autobiographies and they go to the passage that addresses
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Speaker 4: this tryst or this issue, and it's just so funny.
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Speaker 2: But they didn't long with any of Carrie's autobiography where
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Speaker 2: she talks about how much it damaged her for the
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Speaker 2: rest of.
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Speaker 4: Her Oh my gosh, no, but that could be part two.
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Speaker 4: And then this Wednesday I was able to see I
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Speaker 4: think one of the best plays I've seen in a
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Speaker 4: long time. It's called Bolisters. Kenny Leon is the director.
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Speaker 4: It is about it's no intermission in ninety minutes, but
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Speaker 4: it's about like a community that is coming together to
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Speaker 4: whether or not they should have a stop sign.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 6: So these are neighbors that are.
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Speaker 4: All nice to each other, but then when they have
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Speaker 4: to advocate, they get really kind of nasty and funny.
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Speaker 4: Richard Thomas is the chairman of the historical Board, which
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Speaker 4: this is so Richard Thomas, as you know from John
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Speaker 4: Boy on the Waltons. He is a brilliant actor and
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Speaker 4: he comes across as this really sweet.
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Speaker 6: Nice guy. You know, everybody loves him. He's the realtor.
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Speaker 4: He knows everybody's business, going to be in his seventies,
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Speaker 4: but he looks amazing and he's got a lot of energy.
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Speaker 6: He's you know, running around during this.
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Speaker 4: It was so much fun and so well written that
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Speaker 4: I couldn't stop laughing, and I haven't stopped thinking about it.
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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be one of these sort
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Speaker 4: of like quiet winners at.
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Speaker 6: The Tonys ballisters.
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Speaker 4: Yes, like the things that you put on a porch,
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Speaker 4: a ballister, And that was one of the issues because
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Speaker 4: of course a handicapped person needed to change or to
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Speaker 4: add a ramp. So of course the historical society, you know,
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Speaker 4: wants the ramp to be in the back of the house,
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Speaker 4: but then the person can't get there, but they don't
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Speaker 4: want it to look bad.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's just these anyway, So that.
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Speaker 4: Was my week, and then of course it's been exciting
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Speaker 4: just watching basketball. So I'm and we had the Reds
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Speaker 4: and the Mets. Nick and I went to, your family is.
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Speaker 3: So hardcore baseball?
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Speaker 2: I was wondering, Yeah, the Nicks were generating excitement.
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Speaker 6: Oh no, they're big.
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Speaker 4: Well, the funny thing is Nick's sister is a huge
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Speaker 4: Knicks fan, always has been, so we get we get
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Speaker 4: it from her with the Knicks. I've always been a
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Speaker 4: Knicks fan, but we traditionally do follow baseball more closely.
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Speaker 2: We just haven't had a lot to cheer about for
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Speaker 2: most of your adult life.
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Speaker 3: The Knicks.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last time they nineteen ninety nine, well the last.
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Speaker 2: Time they won were in the seventies. They weren't They
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Speaker 2: were to the finals three times in the nineties or right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they had good run.
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Speaker 6: So you know what, you can ask Governor Hokeel she
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Speaker 6: now knows what.
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Speaker 4: Yes, s Yeah, there's ninety three, ninety four, nine, for sure,
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Speaker 4: none of those were winners.
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Speaker 6: We have to go back to seventy three.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all the way back there. So this is
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Speaker 3: a long time coming.
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Speaker 2: But I will tell you, as a former college level
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Speaker 2: coach and as someone who followed the NBA for a
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Speaker 2: long time, I think that the Knicks are not only
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Speaker 2: going to win, I think they're going to bring it
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Speaker 2: home pretty quickly. I think they're going to maybe one
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Speaker 2: or two losses max they could sweep.
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's different. They don't have show voter. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's really a nice refreshing change. So it's really a
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Speaker 4: beautiful thing. So let's go next. Yeah, you know, and
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Speaker 4: we have. So on our show, we're gonna have Tracy
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Speaker 4: ne Parant the Tracy Print to talk about the mets,
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Speaker 4: of course, and then we have a special new guest,
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Speaker 4: Vicki Tobak, who is the guest curator of the Museum
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Speaker 4: in Natural History. They have a new exhibit called for
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Speaker 4: the Win, So it's all about sports memorabilia. I think
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Speaker 4: it's tucked into the gems and metals part because, as
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Speaker 4: you know, it's a natural history museum, so.
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Speaker 3: There's certain metals there.
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Speaker 4: They're legit metals, yeah, and I'm sure there are rings
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Speaker 4: with wonderful gemstones and things like that. But we'll learn
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Speaker 4: about the background of some of those pieces and why
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Speaker 4: they were picked for this exhibition.
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Speaker 3: That'd be so cool.
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Speaker 2: That's the American Museum of Natural History, one of my
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Speaker 2: bride and kids favorite museums to go to, so highly
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Speaker 2: recommend that. Got a lot to get to. She's Christine
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Speaker 2: and Kevin will also have tips for your weekend.
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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 5: What a little moonline can do.
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Speaker 6: It's Radio Night Life, yours Kevin.
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Speaker 2: Mccullor, welcome in. It is Radio Night Live, so glad
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Speaker 2: to have you with us. It's the fun Friday edition.
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Speaker 2: And that means not only Kevin McCollough is with you,
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Speaker 2: but that lady right there, the first lady of New
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Speaker 2: York hospitality, Christine Nicholas.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: Oh so good, so good, so good, and my goodness,
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Speaker 4: this Friday is so much fun. We've got one of
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Speaker 4: our funnest guests coming back. Tracy the Fork me parnt
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Speaker 4: Yea is joining us here. The crowd go to the crowd,
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Speaker 4: so we thought it'd be fun Tracy to have you back, especially,
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Speaker 4: you know, because you the Mets and the Reds kind
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Speaker 4: of faced off this week. And of course I have
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Speaker 4: in the studio.
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Speaker 6: Kevin here, the biggest Reds fan.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the biggest Reds fans, and you know,
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Speaker 4: sports writer and my sports guru here, my little muse
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Speaker 4: who helps me with all the sports stuff so I
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Speaker 4: don't say anything wrong. And he and Tracy, you know,
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Speaker 4: went to the Reds Mets game game three, after Reds won.
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Speaker 6: The first two games.
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Speaker 4: And I'll let Tracy take it away what happened in
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Speaker 4: that ninth inning, Tracy new Parent, Welcome back.
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Speaker 8: Well, all I can say is that I was seeing
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Speaker 8: red after the first two games, but.
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Speaker 5: Fortunately, you know it was funny.
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Speaker 8: I was talking about the fact that the Diaz had
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Speaker 8: left and how as the closer, he was always bringing
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Speaker 8: me to the edge of my seat because he never had.
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Speaker 5: A clean inning.
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Speaker 8: It was always like he takes you to the edge
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Speaker 8: of the cliff and then he somehow gets out of it. Well,
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Speaker 8: sure enough, our current closer gets to the point where
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Speaker 8: you know, we're winning by four to two, but he
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Speaker 8: loads the bases with walks and then miraculously he strikes
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Speaker 8: out the side.
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Speaker 5: So it was really tipped to going through the tulips.
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Speaker 8: It was a nerve wracking but fortunately the Mets prevailed,
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Speaker 8: and the Mets are twenty three and thirty three as
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Speaker 8: we speak here today. But I've been to eight games
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Speaker 8: and they've won six of them, so I'm six and two,
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Speaker 8: so my percentage is pretty good.
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Speaker 5: When I see them, I think they're a pretty damn
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Speaker 5: good team. So go figure.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised they haven't seen the custom sent limousines for you, Frank,
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Speaker 2: Tracy to just get you there for that.
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Speaker 8: Somebody should contact Steve Coen and let them know that
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Speaker 8: I'm available.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say.
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Speaker 4: Well, Tracy, also, you have a big week coming up
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Speaker 4: you've got your better half, beautiful Amy, she's going to be.
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Speaker 6: Celebrating with you.
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Speaker 4: Well, she just celebrated her birthday, but the two of
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Speaker 4: you are going to be celebrating fifty years of matrimonial bliss.
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Speaker 8: It's pretty amazing. It's you know, it's a half century.
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Speaker 8: And the interesting thing is we were married a Memorial
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Speaker 8: Day of the bicentennial year, so it was very patriotic,
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Speaker 8: you know, it was really that Yearmorial Day was May thirtieth,
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Speaker 8: and so you know, with stars and stripes forever. It
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Speaker 8: was really a wonderful occasion. Little did we know that
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Speaker 8: fifty years later we'd be still together and happy and
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Speaker 8: with and being grandparents and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 8: So it's been a wonderful ride and we'll continue to
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Speaker 8: be me So I love very forward to the seventy
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Speaker 8: fifth anniversary.
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Speaker 3: By centennial and a half it, Yeah, I.
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Speaker 8: Don't know if I'll be around for the seventy fifth anniversary,
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Speaker 8: but I'm still gonna, you know, plan for it in
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Speaker 8: my mind.
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Speaker 5: So good tough.
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Speaker 4: So since it's fresh in your mind, because you can
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Speaker 4: always remember your wedding day, do you remember it being
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Speaker 4: like more patrionic for the bi centennial because I'm beginning
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Speaker 4: if I'm starting to feel the rise of excitement, right,
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Speaker 4: and Kevin and I have been. We've been focused on
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Speaker 4: this for the two fifty you know, for many many
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Speaker 4: shows we've been promoting it, and it just feels like
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Speaker 4: now everybody's starting to wake up that there's something exciting.
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Speaker 4: But you know, Tracy, since you were there, what do
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Speaker 4: you think, what's the vibe?
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Speaker 5: I think the bisentennial was incredible.
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Speaker 8: If you remember, they had these Bisonennial minutes on the
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Speaker 8: television two, so you were constantly seeing these messages, and
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Speaker 8: I think it was very uplifting. I remember it being
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Speaker 8: very enjoyable and educational too. I think a lot of
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Speaker 8: people were learning things about the country that they didn't know,
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Speaker 8: and I think there was a little less divisiveness at
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Speaker 8: that point. Although you know, we've never had a moment
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Speaker 8: of total calm. You know, that's a misnomer. People think
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Speaker 8: that you always have everything in order, and that's never
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Speaker 8: the case. There's always this array in the world and
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Speaker 8: that will always be the case.
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Speaker 2: In the Continental Congress two hundred and fifty years ago,
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Speaker 2: when they were fighting about how we're going to start
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Speaker 2: the country, they used to wrap each other over the
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Speaker 2: head with their canes. So yeah, yeah, it's never been
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Speaker 2: like total peace.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 8: The other thing too, is, you know, we didn't have
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Speaker 8: social media really in nineteen seventy six, so it was
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Speaker 8: a different time. We didn't have the cell phones, and
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Speaker 8: we didn't have all the other things. We did have
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Speaker 8: an instant gratification when it came to pieces of information,
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Speaker 8: and we didn't have all these other avenues to get
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Speaker 8: angry at each other, so it was a little more civil,
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Speaker 8: I think.
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Speaker 4: But we also have the World Cup, which I think
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Speaker 4: is taking a little of the oxygen out of the
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Speaker 4: patriotism that we have. Look, I'm excited about the World Cup,
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Speaker 4: and tonight's episode is really a lot about sports because
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Speaker 4: not only do we have Tracy the forkknee print on,
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Speaker 4: but coming up later we're going to have a guest
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Speaker 4: on from the Museum of Natural History because they have
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Speaker 4: a new exhibit called for the Win and it's about
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Speaker 4: sports memorabilia, so that'll be exciting. But keeping to sports
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Speaker 4: for a second, I mean, we've got the Knicks. I mean,
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Speaker 4: this is a different kind of Knix team, one that
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Speaker 4: I've never experienced before. But Tracy, you've been a long
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Speaker 4: time Knicks fan. You've been to many of the games.
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Speaker 4: You know, what's your prediction for this big now that
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Speaker 4: they're going.
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Speaker 8: To the Big Dance, I go back to the Willis Reed,
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Speaker 8: will Clyde, Frasier, Earl, the Pro Monroe era.
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Speaker 5: I mean those are my favorite teams.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, well, nineteen seventeen seventy three, those were
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Speaker 8: incredible teams. They really played team ball. It was a
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Speaker 8: very different game in those times. In those days, you
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Speaker 8: didn't have the three point shot, but the teamwork was impeccable,
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Speaker 8: and that team captured New York. This team is much
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Speaker 8: more athletic. It's a different game today than it was then.
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Speaker 8: They are playing at a very high level right now,
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Speaker 8: and it's really exciting to see. The ball movement is excellent.
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Speaker 8: They're playing tough defense, and they hit their three point
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Speaker 8: shots like they're nothing. It's very impressive. So I'm keeping
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Speaker 8: my fingers crossed. I felt at the beginning of the
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Speaker 8: playoffs the Knicks were like a top five team. I
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Speaker 8: felt that they had had a kind of an up
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Speaker 8: and down season. Obviously, they were a very good team,
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Speaker 8: but I felt that maybe they weren't quite at the
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Speaker 8: elite level. But they've been playing at a elite level
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Speaker 8: now and they've really made you believe that they can
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Speaker 8: win the championship, and I think at this point if
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Speaker 8: they'd own it'll be a letdown.
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Speaker 2: Can I just put a parenthetical thought in there for
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Speaker 2: a second, because my bride's been saying to meet Miami
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Speaker 2: has been saying, you know, oh, it's so amazing how
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Speaker 2: well the Knicks did this year, and I'm saying, yeah,
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Speaker 2: but they've actually been on the ascendancy for a couple
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Speaker 2: of seasons, haven't they, Tracy. I mean, they was it
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Speaker 2: last year of the year before they went further in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs than people thought they would, and you kept
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Speaker 2: kind of a core foundation of some good chemistry between
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Speaker 2: the players, So I'm not totally surprised that they're doing
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Speaker 2: as well as they are. I mean, they're playing lights
17:39
Speaker 2: out in the playoffs, like we didn't see. You didn't
17:42
Speaker 2: have this team playing most of the season. But what
17:44
Speaker 2: they're doing right now, it's not being matched anywhere.
17:47
Speaker 8: There seems to be a chemistry in the team that
17:50
Speaker 8: really is genuine, and I think they've done a great
17:54
Speaker 8: job constructing this team, and Jalen Brunson, you know, he is, like,
17:59
Speaker 8: he's a great you're a player because it's all effort
18:02
Speaker 8: and character. You know, you can see he's not a
18:04
Speaker 8: tall guy. He can't dominate anybody physically, but he's indomitable
18:08
Speaker 8: with his spirit.
18:09
Speaker 5: You know, he just.
18:10
Speaker 8: Goes out there and he's got a focus that's incredible
18:14
Speaker 8: and a drive and he's relentless. And it's great also
18:17
Speaker 8: that they use the whole team now, they use the
18:19
Speaker 8: whole branch so that they don't run the top guys
18:23
Speaker 8: into the ground where they're just gasping for air at
18:25
Speaker 8: the end of the game. They have some kick left
18:27
Speaker 8: in their.
18:27
Speaker 2: Steps, so when you have a thirty five point lead
18:29
Speaker 2: at halftime, it allows you to play some of the
18:31
Speaker 2: lesser players.
18:33
Speaker 8: You know, it's we've never we're all pitching ourselves because
18:36
Speaker 8: as Nick fans, we've always had to, you know, to
18:38
Speaker 8: struggle for everything. It's never come totally easy. And this
18:42
Speaker 8: team is making It's like, what's going on here. They're
18:45
Speaker 8: just going out there and they're they're just dominating in
18:48
Speaker 8: a way that's historically it's never been the case.
18:51
Speaker 3: Starts on defense.
18:51
Speaker 5: Let's keep it going. Four more wins.
18:53
Speaker 2: Really well on the defensive end of things, and that's
18:55
Speaker 2: turning into easy opportunities. At the other end, Tracy, stick around.
18:59
Speaker 2: We got take a break. We're going to come right back.
19:01
Speaker 2: We're talking sports tonight on Fun Friday.
19:09
Speaker 1: And now I'm from New York back to radio night Life.
19:12
Speaker 1: You're Kevin McCulla.
19:15
Speaker 3: Welcome back. She's Christine Nicholas.
19:17
Speaker 2: I'm Kevin McCulla, and our guest is one of our
19:19
Speaker 2: favorite guys. In fact, we don't have ab with us tonight.
19:22
Speaker 2: Christine Normally she would tell us how many appearances Tracy
19:26
Speaker 2: has made, but I know he's got like four or
19:28
Speaker 2: five jackets by now. If it takes five to catch
19:30
Speaker 2: your first jacket, Tracy's been around at least four or
19:33
Speaker 2: five times that.
19:34
Speaker 4: So yeah, and Tracy was also at our fifth anniversary
19:38
Speaker 4: in person in studio, so that was awfully nice to
19:42
Speaker 4: have both Tracy and Amy and yeah studio tonight, so
19:46
Speaker 4: we have.
19:47
Speaker 6: Our resident, our resident sports expert.
19:49
Speaker 4: Speaking of Amy and Tracy, you both were on a
19:52
Speaker 4: celebrity cruise, the Legends Bermuda Cruz, but it was baseball themed.
19:57
Speaker 6: I mean, tell us about that.
19:59
Speaker 4: I've always I wondered about these, either the Broadway themed
20:02
Speaker 4: or the baseball themed cruises.
20:04
Speaker 6: How did it work out?
20:06
Speaker 8: It was wonderful. The Celebrity cruise line is terrific. We've
20:09
Speaker 8: been on two other cruise lines in the past that
20:11
Speaker 8: were also very good, but this was excellent. The celebrity
20:15
Speaker 8: aspect for the Baseball was about two hundred people within
20:19
Speaker 8: the entire cruise.
20:20
Speaker 5: It wasn't the entire cruise. It wasn't Baseball, but it
20:22
Speaker 5: was two hundred people within it.
20:23
Speaker 8: And the people who participated Art Chamsky, who was a
20:26
Speaker 8: good friend from the sixty nine Mets, Howard Johnson also
20:30
Speaker 8: from the eighty six Mets, and then you had Mickey Rivers,
20:33
Speaker 8: who was, you know, a legacy Yankee, Ron Bloomberg, Jesse Barfield,
20:39
Speaker 8: Charlie Hayes, and Chuck Knoblock and Cliff Johnson and Homer Bush.
20:43
Speaker 8: That really it was a wonderful group of people. As
20:46
Speaker 8: a met fin, I had to rib the Yankee guys
20:48
Speaker 8: a little bit. I'd go over to Jesse Barber.
20:50
Speaker 3: You can't imagine that happening. I just kept picture it.
20:52
Speaker 5: I said to Jesse Barfield, you know, Jesse, You'll always
20:54
Speaker 5: be a Blue Jay to me. You know, he thought that.
20:58
Speaker 3: Charlie Hayes Ranger.
20:59
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Charlie Hayes, I said, you know the same.
21:02
Speaker 8: I said, Charlie, He'll always be a Philly in a Rocky.
21:05
Speaker 8: He put his hand on my shoulder. He was laughing,
21:07
Speaker 8: you know. I mean, he caught the third out for
21:10
Speaker 8: one of the Yankee World Series victories. So if everybody
21:12
Speaker 8: will always remember that, it was a very affable group.
21:15
Speaker 8: We played the woofleball on a beach in Bermuda, which
21:18
Speaker 8: was fun. I actually hit the ball and I caught
21:21
Speaker 8: the ball. Howard Johnson said, you still got it, which
21:24
Speaker 8: was very nice. You know, I don't know what I got,
21:26
Speaker 8: but you know, whatever I got was it was a wait.
21:29
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, back up a second, tracing you prone there
21:32
Speaker 4: was a baseball game when you got.
21:36
Speaker 5: No.
21:36
Speaker 4: But so did Chuck Knoblock catch the ball or what happened?
21:40
Speaker 6: Or did he win?
21:41
Speaker 8: He's a very intense guy. Nobody said anything about throwing
21:45
Speaker 8: the ball at first base, so you know, we're all
21:47
Speaker 8: very polite.
21:49
Speaker 7: Uh.
21:49
Speaker 8: You know, I do know this that that when somebody
21:52
Speaker 8: got hit by a pitch, I said, what are you?
21:54
Speaker 8: Roger Clemens and he looked at me. He said, I
21:56
Speaker 8: hate Roger Clemens. You know, apparently Roger Clemens them at
22:00
Speaker 8: one point and they may have been teammates on the Yankees,
22:03
Speaker 8: but he doesn't like Roger Clemens, so that was something
22:05
Speaker 8: I picked up from.
22:07
Speaker 5: It was an interesting group they had.
22:09
Speaker 8: They had Q and a's, they had like a family
22:12
Speaker 8: feud quizzing thing. They had autograph sessions, they had photography sessions.
22:19
Speaker 8: So it was fun and I got to sit and
22:22
Speaker 8: have lunch with a couple of the guys, which was nice.
22:24
Speaker 8: Mike Paglarulo actually.
22:25
Speaker 5: One of the Yankees. I forgot to mention him. Very
22:28
Speaker 5: nice guy.
22:28
Speaker 8: He was kind of a utility player, but very sweet guy.
22:31
Speaker 8: And Howard Johnson was terrific. You know, he was an
22:35
Speaker 8: excellent player in the eighty six Mets. He played also
22:39
Speaker 8: for Sparky Anderson and the eighty four Tigers, which were
22:42
Speaker 8: an excellent team. So he was on two World championship
22:44
Speaker 8: teams within three years in his career.
22:47
Speaker 5: So it was.
22:48
Speaker 8: It was a lot of fun. And the weather in
22:50
Speaker 8: Bermuda was terrific. It's a nice place to go to,
22:54
Speaker 8: so it was. It was a wonderful way to celebrate
22:57
Speaker 8: my wife's birthday and our upcoming anniversary of our wedding
23:02
Speaker 8: fifty year in the years.
23:03
Speaker 2: That's incredible. You know, you mentioned Mickey Rivers, and I
23:06
Speaker 2: know he had I think it was two stints with
23:08
Speaker 2: the Yankees. To this day, I still think Mickey Rivers
23:11
Speaker 2: was one of the smoothest guys in terms of stealing
23:14
Speaker 2: second that ever played the game.
23:16
Speaker 3: I'm curious your thoughts on that.
23:18
Speaker 8: Well, he certainly was. And he's really a character. I
23:20
Speaker 8: mean he's very voiciferous, very energetic. Ron Bloomberg also who
23:25
Speaker 8: was the first guy to be a designated hitter, and.
23:28
Speaker 5: He's he's a real character.
23:30
Speaker 8: The interesting thing he and Shamsky both managed in Israel
23:34
Speaker 8: when they had one year of baseball in Israel and
23:36
Speaker 8: Bloomberg's team won, Shampsky's came in second, and Shampsky's still
23:40
Speaker 8: to this day can't understand how his team lost to
23:43
Speaker 8: Bloomberg because he said Bloomberg didn't know the name of
23:45
Speaker 8: any of.
23:45
Speaker 5: The players on the team.
23:46
Speaker 8: He always said that guy, you know, I have that
23:49
Speaker 8: guy in left field, I have that guy in center field.
23:51
Speaker 8: And who's your very favorite player, Ron, Oh, that guy
23:54
Speaker 8: over there. You know, he didn't even know the name
23:56
Speaker 8: of his players, yet he managed them to a championship
23:58
Speaker 8: in that league. So to this day, Shampsky is still
24:03
Speaker 8: you know, he's envious of the fact that they won
24:05
Speaker 8: the championship.
24:06
Speaker 5: I had my baseball glove.
24:08
Speaker 8: And I brought it and I got it signed by
24:10
Speaker 8: all the players.
24:11
Speaker 5: So nice, Quite a nice glove here with all these signatures.
24:14
Speaker 3: What's the best signature on there in your opinion?
24:16
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
24:18
Speaker 8: Obviously I love my Mets, so I'll take Howard Johnson
24:21
Speaker 8: and Shamsky, but they're all great. Actually I had one
24:23
Speaker 8: before I even went on this trip from Guscasich. Oh wow,
24:27
Speaker 8: go figure, and Cliff Johnson was on the trip, and
24:30
Speaker 8: you know, Cliff Johnson and gusc Osich, I had an
24:32
Speaker 8: incident back in the day. So I kind of like
24:35
Speaker 8: to had to hold the glove, you know, in a
24:37
Speaker 8: different direction.
24:38
Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to see the signature.
24:41
Speaker 3: You know, Tracy, we're out of time.
24:44
Speaker 2: But here's to a team game winning streak for the Mets,
24:47
Speaker 2: just because you appeared on Fun Friday.
24:48
Speaker 6: And Tracy, thank you on your nineteenth time.
24:52
Speaker 3: Oh nineteenth nice.
24:54
Speaker 5: Wow.
24:55
Speaker 6: Next time I have to do a celebration.
24:56
Speaker 3: There we go, all right, lemon ripe out of the jacket.
25:00
Speaker 3: That's it coming right back, says Christine. I'm Kevin Stiga
25:08
Speaker 3: from New York.
25:09
Speaker 5: It's Radio Night Live with Kevin McCulloch.
25:13
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
25:14
Speaker 2: Kind of a sports theme night tonight on Radio Night
25:16
Speaker 2: Live on Friday. Christine Nicholas, Kevin McCullough. Glad to be
25:20
Speaker 2: with you and Christine. I'm excited about this next guest
25:24
Speaker 2: because all the stuff that they're curating, this is the
25:28
Speaker 2: kind of stuff I love to go see and just
25:31
Speaker 2: read about and learn all.
25:32
Speaker 3: The more I can.
25:33
Speaker 4: So once you do the honors, i'd be happy to
25:36
Speaker 4: first time on Radio Night Live, or very pleased to
25:39
Speaker 4: welcome Vicky Tobak, who is the guest curator at the
25:43
Speaker 4: American Museum of Natural History their newest exhibit. It's called
25:47
Speaker 4: for the Win Objects of Sports.
25:50
Speaker 6: Excellent.
25:50
Speaker 4: So Vicky, we're very excited and the timing couldn't be
25:54
Speaker 4: better to have an exhibition about sports memorabilia and all
25:58
Speaker 4: wonderful things about sports.
26:00
Speaker 6: How did you come up with this wonderful idea to
26:03
Speaker 6: do this? Yeah, well, first.
26:04
Speaker 7: Of all, thank you for having me. It's it's very exciting.
26:08
Speaker 4: You know.
26:09
Speaker 7: The idea for this sort of came from the World
26:12
Speaker 7: Cup coming to Town. The museum had been thinking about
26:15
Speaker 7: doing something around sports for a long time, and you know,
26:18
Speaker 7: this World Cup fever is upon us, as is a
26:23
Speaker 7: lot of you know, New York sports and global sports news.
26:27
Speaker 7: So we wanted to do something that really celebrates this
26:31
Speaker 7: kind of culture of winning and bring together objects that represent,
26:38
Speaker 7: you know, being great across sports. So this actually this
26:41
Speaker 7: exhibit it's in the Hall of Gems and Minerals, and
26:45
Speaker 7: it actually ranges over one hundred and fifty years of
26:49
Speaker 7: sports and more than fifteen different sports. So we're very excited.
26:55
Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask how with the World
26:58
Speaker 4: Cup since you knew about that and invans. You know,
27:00
Speaker 4: we've been planning this World Cup for over five years. Now,
27:04
Speaker 4: what are some of the items that people will be
27:07
Speaker 4: able to see that reflect the World Cup?
27:10
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we you know, we wanted to make this
27:12
Speaker 9: a show that showed, you know, what, what is it
27:15
Speaker 9: that sports have in common and kind of give these
27:19
Speaker 9: objects around around each sport.
27:22
Speaker 7: So you know, while we certainly have World Cup, we
27:25
Speaker 7: also have basketball, football, uh new you know, American soccer,
27:31
Speaker 7: all of the things. So you know, we we have
27:35
Speaker 7: you want to know about sports soccer.
27:36
Speaker 6: Specifically or or I mean, you know, I have New
27:40
Speaker 6: York top of mind.
27:41
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's because the Knicks are going to
27:44
Speaker 2: win a championship.
27:46
Speaker 7: Yes, So you know we have we have a FIFA
27:49
Speaker 7: Women's World Cup medal that belongs to Ali Krieger. We
27:53
Speaker 7: also have the Major League Soccer Trophy, you know, which
27:56
Speaker 7: is not FIFA, but you know, staying in like.
27:58
Speaker 6: The soccer world. So those are kind.
28:03
Speaker 7: Of two objects from the soccer world, you know. I
28:06
Speaker 7: think people that visit will really.
28:08
Speaker 2: Love and you've got things from a variety of other
28:12
Speaker 2: places too, including Olympic history, and I think one of
28:15
Speaker 2: the cool things that I would want to see upon
28:18
Speaker 2: my first visit to the exhibit would be the nineteen
28:21
Speaker 2: thirty six gold medals from Jesse Owens, who was not
28:25
Speaker 2: only in a very difficult Olympic cycle that was the
28:30
Speaker 2: Berlin cycle where Hitler was in attendance, but as an
28:34
Speaker 2: African American, he shattered what Hitler had spread far and
28:40
Speaker 2: wide in terms of his belief in terms of white
28:42
Speaker 2: supremacy and did the USA proud in the midst of it.
28:46
Speaker 2: So this is like living history beyond just the field
28:51
Speaker 2: of play.
28:53
Speaker 7: I love that you're giving that context because this is
28:55
Speaker 7: one of the most special pieces in the show. Yes,
29:02
Speaker 7: and as like you said, Jesse Owens in nineteen thirty
29:05
Speaker 7: six he went to Berlin and he won four gold medals,
29:11
Speaker 7: and you know, those three of those four have sort
29:15
Speaker 7: of been lost and kind of questionable of where they are.
29:19
Speaker 7: With this one remaining one we tracked down and you know,
29:24
Speaker 7: the lender kindly gave it to us for the duration
29:27
Speaker 7: of the show and we show it alongside the Berlin
29:34
Speaker 7: torch from from the Olympic torch from nineteen thirty six.
29:38
Speaker 7: So we show we show those two things together, you know,
29:41
Speaker 7: and really kind of celebrate what he did over there,
29:44
Speaker 7: which was so special and we were we were also
29:48
Speaker 7: you know, very honored. We had the Jesse Owens family
29:52
Speaker 7: come and see the exhibit, which has been really really nice.
29:55
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's wonderful. That's wonderful. So, Vicky, this exhibit the
30:00
Speaker 6: Museum of Natural History. How long will it last?
30:04
Speaker 7: So the museum is I'm sorry, the exhibit is opened
30:07
Speaker 7: through January twenty twenty seven. So you are going to
30:11
Speaker 7: go through lots of sporting special moments, the start of
30:16
Speaker 7: football season, the end of basketball, you know, shortly in
30:20
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks.
30:21
Speaker 4: Mike, can you add to the exhibit if God willing
30:24
Speaker 4: the Knicks take a win.
30:27
Speaker 2: Here the question a championship ring would she take away
30:31
Speaker 2: from the player because if you've got you know, they're
30:33
Speaker 2: not going to want to take that thing off for
30:35
Speaker 2: a year.
30:37
Speaker 6: That is right, That is right.
30:39
Speaker 7: So you know, fingers crossed, no pun intended that we
30:43
Speaker 7: will have that opportunity, but we are, I can share
30:48
Speaker 7: going to have a visit from the Larry O'Brian Trophy
30:52
Speaker 7: after the championship is won, so that that is not
30:56
Speaker 7: currently in the exhibit, but after the championship is one
31:01
Speaker 7: that will be making an appearance, a special appearance at
31:03
Speaker 7: the at the exhibit. But we do have lots of
31:09
Speaker 7: championship rings also from the past. We have Kevin Durant's
31:12
Speaker 7: championship ring, we have the Denver Nuggets, like all the
31:20
Speaker 7: different kind of championship rings from the year, including the
31:23
Speaker 7: nineteen fifties Philadelphia Warriors rings. It's kind of cool to
31:27
Speaker 7: be able to see like what championship rings used to
31:31
Speaker 7: look like back in the fifties, which were like very
31:34
Speaker 7: fifties sixties, you know, very humble, to what they've become,
31:37
Speaker 7: which are these like insane creations of you know, diamonds
31:42
Speaker 7: and gold and symbolism.
31:45
Speaker 2: And not to leave out Yankees or the Giants, but
31:48
Speaker 2: you've got the Babe Ruth crown that Yogi Bearra received
31:51
Speaker 2: for lifetime batting achievements.
31:53
Speaker 3: That's cool.
31:53
Speaker 2: And then Justin Tuck who was part of that two
31:55
Speaker 2: thousand and eight Giants Super Bowl team, you've got his
32:00
Speaker 2: as well. And other great stuff there, fabulous stuff. If
32:04
Speaker 2: people want to know more online, where.
32:05
Speaker 3: Do they go.
32:07
Speaker 7: So they can visit the American Museum of Natural History website,
32:11
Speaker 7: got all the information there.
32:14
Speaker 2: AMNH dot org is the website. Am NH dot org.
32:21
Speaker 2: Am n H that's the American Museum Natural History. Am
32:25
Speaker 2: NH dot org is where you go for that. And Vicky,
32:29
Speaker 2: great stuff. Maybe in the fall, when you've got some
32:31
Speaker 2: of the new things football and other things in there,
32:33
Speaker 2: we can have another conversation.
32:35
Speaker 6: That's right, that'd be great.
32:37
Speaker 2: Fabulous, thanks for being here. Going to take quick great
32:40
Speaker 2: Christine's got your weekend tips.
32:42
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.
32:50
Speaker 1: Once again from New York, here's Radio Night Live and
32:54
Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough welcome back.
32:56
Speaker 2: It's final few minutes of Radio Night Live. So glad
32:59
Speaker 2: to have you with us, Christine and Kevin and Christine.
33:02
Speaker 2: Busy stuff. We've got, you know, FIFA, We've got two fifty,
33:05
Speaker 2: We've got all kinds of things happening. It's going to
33:07
Speaker 2: be a busy year. What is this weekend got in store?
33:11
Speaker 6: Well, of course, we have the Mets this weekend.
33:14
Speaker 4: And speaking of the Mets, I wanted to thank Tracy
33:17
Speaker 4: me Print for joining us to talk about the Mets
33:20
Speaker 4: and maybe rub it in a little bit that the
33:23
Speaker 4: Red's one two out of three. Sorry, I couldn't resist
33:26
Speaker 4: love you, Love you, Tracy, but got to love my
33:29
Speaker 4: husband more and he's a big Reds fan. Okay, So
33:31
Speaker 4: if you want to go check the Mets and hopefully
33:33
Speaker 4: they'll beat the Miami Marlins, you can just go to
33:36
Speaker 4: City Field. Yankees baseball this weekend. By the way, the
33:40
Speaker 4: Yankees are in second place, Mets are in fifth. Yankees
33:43
Speaker 4: are playing the Oakland A's and you can just you know,
33:47
Speaker 4: catch them. But I think everybody's got nicked fever, so
33:50
Speaker 4: we're waiting for those games to begin. I also, one
33:53
Speaker 4: way or another, they will start on Wednesday, Yes, yes,
33:57
Speaker 4: and let's see if it takes four, five, six and
34:00
Speaker 4: hopefully not seven games to win. Vicki Tobek, thank you
34:04
Speaker 4: from the American Museum of Natural History for a brand
34:07
Speaker 4: new exhibit called for the Win. Very exciting looking forward
34:11
Speaker 4: to that. So next week, Kevin, we have our guests
34:15
Speaker 4: lined up. We have Michael Riedle returning. Michael Riedle, as
34:18
Speaker 4: you know, the former New York Post columnist who covered
34:21
Speaker 4: the cha. He's going to be back on Broadway, actually
34:25
Speaker 4: on Broadway after three shows a week called Are.
34:30
Speaker 6: You Now or Have You Ever? Been?
34:33
Speaker 4: Playing at the New York City Center and it's got
34:36
Speaker 4: a rotating all star cast and it's very important work
34:41
Speaker 4: about the nineteen forties House Committee on American Activities hearing.
34:45
Speaker 4: So afterwards Michael will be on stage and he'll have
34:51
Speaker 4: a first amendment or somebody you know, some kind of expert,
34:55
Speaker 4: and he'll have a panel discussion.
34:57
Speaker 6: So that should be interesting.
34:58
Speaker 4: And then we also have Lewis Ruggierio from Fresco by Scatto,
35:02
Speaker 4: and this is going to be l J's first time
35:07
Speaker 4: on Radio Night Live, and he'll tell us about what's
35:09
Speaker 4: in store at Fresco this summer for FIFA. They are
35:12
Speaker 4: participating in all of the wonderful excitement about the FIFA
35:16
Speaker 4: World Cup and see how restaurants can participate.
35:18
Speaker 6: Part of NYC tourisms.
35:22
Speaker 4: Push to help small businesses, especially speaking of small businesses
35:27
Speaker 4: with FIFA.
35:28
Speaker 6: You know, we are pushing through, you know.
35:32
Speaker 4: Our efforts Broadway Association, Time Square Alliance. Let's not work
35:37
Speaker 4: from home people on the four days that FIFA is
35:40
Speaker 4: going to take place. Let's make sure our elected officials
35:43
Speaker 4: understand that New York can host these big events without
35:48
Speaker 4: shutting down the city. We just learned today that forty
35:51
Speaker 4: second Street is now going to be for buses only
35:54
Speaker 4: on the days of the of the games. You know,
35:57
Speaker 4: that's the eight games, but there are four of those
36:00
Speaker 4: games are on weekdays.
36:01
Speaker 6: I think we can handle it.
36:02
Speaker 4: These games are taking place in New Jersey, so let's
36:06
Speaker 4: make sure that New York City remains open for business.
36:09
Speaker 6: Okay, just my little plug there.
36:13
Speaker 4: They got a brand new exhibit also at the Museum
36:16
Speaker 4: of Broadway. That's the Craft of Puppetree. That's exciting. That
36:22
Speaker 4: just open. So go check that out at the Museum
36:24
Speaker 4: of Broadway. We love our friends there and there's just
36:28
Speaker 4: so much to see and do. Just visit nyctourism dot
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