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7-14-26 Hour 1 - Home Run Derby, Peyton Watson and Nuggets Staring Contest · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 1: Home Run Derby last night. Jordan Walker is the winner
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Speaker 1: of the home run Derby. He's somebody. You know what's
0:08
Speaker 1: funny if you go back to the Nolan Arnado trade,
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Speaker 1: Jordan Walker was a prospect within that system, and I
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Speaker 1: remember looking afterwards and I was like, they couldn't get
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Speaker 1: this guy who was one of their top prospects, and
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Speaker 1: instead they went I can't even remember. Can you guys
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Speaker 1: remember anybody? Oh wait, uh Alarrous Montero. Wasn't that one
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Speaker 1: guy that you got in the Nolan trade? You got
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Speaker 1: the picture Nibbler Gomber, Austin Gomber.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Nibbler.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: stop everything. What's funny about Jordan Walker winning HR Derby
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Speaker 3: and doing it in dramatic fashion is that on yesterday's
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Speaker 3: show when we went through the field and we sat
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Speaker 3: here and cried that Hunter Goodman wasn't in it rightfully so,
0:51
Speaker 3: by the way, Hunter Goodman deserved a spot in it,
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Speaker 3: but we ripped MLB. I believe it was you, Brett
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Speaker 3: Kane who said, for example, why is this Jordan Walker?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I said kaglean on he said,
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Speaker 1: the guy from the Royals. Oh, Jordan Mark had twenty
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Speaker 1: two bombs. That was fine.
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Speaker 2: He was fine.
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Speaker 3: At fifteen.
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Speaker 2: It was the cat with fifteen Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: He was terrible. I was right, he was awful. He
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Speaker 1: had like he had like four in a row that
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Speaker 1: were like four hundred and eighty footers, but he had
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Speaker 1: like five overall. He was terrible.
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Speaker 3: That's the best home run derby I've seen in years.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I was thoroughly bored although I watched it. The
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Speaker 1: format's better. This format is better than the time I
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Speaker 1: was bored.
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Speaker 3: You're bored because you've seen it too many times. I guess, yeah,
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Speaker 3: you're But the format was better the drama. I mean,
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Speaker 3: come on, dude, the guy couldn't miss. He had hit
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Speaker 3: six in a row to win the thing.
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Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find what you know.
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Speaker 3: What your attitude lately? You've had anti sports attitude. You
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Speaker 3: have no no, no, no, no, no, you no.
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Speaker 2: You shut up and listened for double dub duble it does.
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Speaker 3: Last week we had this outstanding seth Wickersham article. Oh
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Speaker 3: I'm not reading that. I have no interest in that.
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Speaker 3: This week, Comaron Derby comes down to the final bats. Oh,
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Speaker 3: I don't care I'm not watching. What do you do
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Speaker 3: all day besides wear fishing shirts?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 2: I watched The Mother. I watched it for crying out
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Speaker 2: loud In.
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Speaker 1: Fact, Vic, why can't you have fun when you're doing
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Speaker 1: sports things? You can't have fun?
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Speaker 3: Everything? Everything's oh man, I gotta watch this.
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Speaker 2: You make it hard.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch France and Spain today, but I'm not gonna.
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Speaker 2: I get a text bumping five pm. I get a
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Speaker 2: text from one Troy Caine.
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Speaker 4: See Willie, what your dad makes me laugh? I can't
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Speaker 4: believe I don't get to watch the home run derby
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Speaker 4: blanking streaming blank blank.
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Speaker 1: Dad doesn't There's no little kids in my Netflix at
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Speaker 1: at Troy's house.
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Speaker 3: It is weird that it was on Netflix. I'm not
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Speaker 3: gonna lie it was. I thought they did a great job,
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Speaker 3: I really do. I thought the camera cuts were a
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Speaker 3: bit severe and quick at times, but the broadcast itself
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Speaker 3: I thought was fine.
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Speaker 1: I think somebody got in their ear because it was
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Speaker 1: it was either during contrarasts the who went first? I
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Speaker 1: can't who went second in that first round? It was
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Speaker 1: Contrast and then somebody else, Uh, maybe it's Jordan Walker.
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Speaker 1: But there was like three home runs that were hit
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Speaker 1: and they didn't say anything, and I'm like, guys, you're
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Speaker 1: give me, give me some pageantry, give me a back, back,
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Speaker 1: back back, give me one of those. I think somebody
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Speaker 1: got in their ear. It was like, you guys need
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Speaker 1: to talk about the ball leaving the yard. And they
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Speaker 1: started to do it after that.
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Speaker 3: But with the ball leaving, that's the point. That's why
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Speaker 3: we're here.
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Speaker 1: Can I ask you something that I think is is
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Speaker 1: an interesting sort of off road to what that broadcast was.
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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds was on set. Barry Bonds very famously. I
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Speaker 1: mean the steroid stuff, of course, is a big factor
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Speaker 1: to why he's not in the Hall of Fame, but
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Speaker 1: it's also he famously had bad relationships with the media.
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Speaker 1: They didn't like him, they thought it was a jerk.
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Speaker 1: And now he's sitting in a chair with a microphone
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Speaker 1: where he is part of that same media happens all
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Speaker 1: the time, but the same media that has thrown a
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Speaker 1: cold shoulder at him for all of his accomplishments in baseball,
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Speaker 1: and I wonder what his relationship with that part of
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Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 3: First of all, he's half the man he was. Literally,
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Speaker 3: his head is half the size it was when he
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Speaker 3: played Yeah, he is shrunk. He is one half of
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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds. He's one leg of Berry Bonds that I
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Speaker 3: remember with the San Francisco Giants. He's the Pirates Berry Bonds,
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Speaker 3: Remember the Pirates Berry Bonds motion.
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Speaker 1: The mustacheolutely yeahs.
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Speaker 2: To Pittsburgh to San Fran.
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Speaker 3: Then he goes to San fran and bulks up something
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Speaker 3: fierce and looks like a completely different human being. So
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Speaker 3: now he's back to skinny Barry. By the way, if
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Speaker 3: you live in Colorado and you live in the mountains
5:20
Speaker 3: of Colorado near Aspen, I guarantee if you're a bike rider,
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Speaker 3: you have seen Barry Bonds riding his bicycle. He's gotten
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Speaker 3: into bicycle riding big time, and he does.
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Speaker 2: It a lot.
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Speaker 3: He frequents a lot of spots on the Western Slope
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Speaker 3: to ride his bike.
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Speaker 1: Stay don the road, stay on the sidewalk.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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Speaker 4: Drive up to Aspen to see if I can see
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Speaker 4: Barry Bonds riding his bike.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad you brought that up. If you gave
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Speaker 3: me the choice, because I know what you do. Hey,
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Speaker 3: let's go leaf peeping. If you gave me the choice
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Speaker 3: to drive to the mountains to go leaf peeping, or
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Speaker 3: to go watch Barry Bonds take his ass up one
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Speaker 3: of those passes. I would rather watch Barry Bonds.
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Speaker 1: I agree with him.
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Speaker 2: Actually that means you're both stupid.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I've never, even since moving here,
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Speaker 1: i have not been to Aspen. I'm pretty sure I'm
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Speaker 1: never gonna go.
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Speaker 3: You know what. I've born and raised here, My friend,
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Speaker 3: I've never been to Aspen.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's there for me.
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Speaker 3: I've never been to Aspen. I don't know what's there either.
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Speaker 3: I don't Is it shopping, I'm not doing that. I
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Speaker 3: got Ross dress for less just across the street over here.
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Speaker 3: We're Fine've got Sierra across the street too. If you
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Speaker 3: think I'm taking the Queen of Chicken with the way
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Speaker 3: she spends the pocketbook to ask, you crazy.
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Speaker 1: But I did think it's just it's an odd thing
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Speaker 1: I have.
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Speaker 4: On the flip side, I've been there many times, including covering.
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Speaker 2: Winter ex games, a buttermilk and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: And you've never seen a Barry Bonds.
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Speaker 4: I've never seen Berry Bonds in his freaking snowmobile. No whatever,
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Speaker 4: now I have not. I guess what I'm trying to
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Speaker 4: say to you, is I'm so much more worldly than
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Speaker 4: both of you, so much more worldly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it shows. We opened the show by saying, hey,
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Speaker 3: how about Home Run Derby? I didn't watch, I don't care,
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Speaker 3: uh huh. And it's a sports show talk about the world.
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Speaker 3: I will go ahead and talk about what happened in
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Speaker 3: Home Run Derby. Jordan Walker six straight at the end
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Speaker 3: to be swarbur the hometown favorite.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool.
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Speaker 2: He's jumping around.
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Speaker 4: I watched it, VIC, you're not allowed to talk. I
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Speaker 4: watched it, but I was bored. I can't be the
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Speaker 4: only one that was bored watching Home Run Derby last night.
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Speaker 1: I can't be. I'm telling you the first this is
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Speaker 1: what happens to me everything.
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Speaker 2: I can't be.
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Speaker 1: First round I watch, I'm super into it. I want
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Speaker 1: to see who chokes. I want to see who does well.
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Speaker 1: Second round I kind of like dive in and out.
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Speaker 1: Oh see, okay, that's cool. And then I watched the
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Speaker 1: final round. But my interest wings as it goes on.
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Speaker 1: But I want to see everybody participating in the first round.
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Speaker 3: How locked in was Walker? Though? When he got to
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Speaker 3: nine he needed two more one to tie, or he
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Speaker 3: needed three more to win, two to tie, and he's
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Speaker 3: at nine with one swing left. Yeah, and he's taking
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Speaker 3: his time. I love it that there's no clock now
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Speaker 3: because now you can take your time and take your pitch. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's taking his time. Boom. I didn't like the camera
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Speaker 3: angles on those last three because I wanted to see
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Speaker 3: off the bat if they were gone. I didn't want
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Speaker 3: to trust the announcer telling me they were gone. They
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Speaker 3: needed to move the camera. This is television one on
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Speaker 3: one in the final at bats, the ones that required
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Speaker 3: to leave the park. I need the camera behind the
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Speaker 3: batter so I could see what's going on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's sort of you. You can see the
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Speaker 1: batter's eye and all that different stuff. I agree. Are you?
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Speaker 1: Are you participating in your.
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Speaker 3: See the camera back behind the better affects?
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Speaker 2: See?
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Speaker 1: Why don't you hang on? Hang on? I'm sorry, it's
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Speaker 1: about your stinger vibrates, you know, after watching a slapshot.
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Speaker 3: In a morning scale. Now, Alan Alan Bacha is with
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Speaker 3: us this week. Allan go knock on the door of
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Speaker 3: the studio next door one of those FM radio music stations.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what we have. What do we have
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Speaker 3: over there? What's the name of our stations we have
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Speaker 3: like one five go knock on and ask them if
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Speaker 3: they can make a trade. Is there anyone there that
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Speaker 3: is willing to talk sports? Dristmas?
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Speaker 2: Christmas.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to engage with this dude. Every time
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Speaker 3: we get into a sports topic. He's bored.
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Speaker 4: That is untrue. The pretty boy, the pretty boy will
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Speaker 4: I'm listen. He'll talk bad angle if you want to.
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Speaker 4: You want to talk bad angle to your nets fall off?
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Speaker 4: I'll go get and you'll be a happy guy. I mean,
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Speaker 4: what do you want from me? I've seen Home Run
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Speaker 4: Derby ten thousand times. It doesn't do it for me anymore.
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Speaker 4: I watched it because it was on. I tried to
10:04
Speaker 4: scold Brett's brother into giving see Williams Netflix.
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Speaker 3: This is the ultimate test as a sports Would you
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Speaker 3: rather watch Home Run Derby or literally go up to
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Speaker 3: the mountains to watch the leaves turn?
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Speaker 2: Would rather watch Home Run Derby? Are you sure? Pretty sure?
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Speaker 3: Because I don't know. I remember you skipping out on
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Speaker 3: golf to go watch the leaves turn once you're one
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Speaker 3: of those leaf keepers.
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Speaker 1: Would this have changed for you if Hunter Gibmnan was
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Speaker 1: in there. Yes, so if you had a rooting interest.
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Speaker 1: It would change. Is that what you're saying?
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Speaker 4: A five eleven two pound home run jack ern machine.
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Speaker 2: I would I would appreciated that. Yeah, well there's there,
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Speaker 2: I know, but I mean he's our guy.
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Speaker 3: It would suck though that you're there, You're gonna participate
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Speaker 3: in the actual game. You're watching this unfold and you're like, hey, man,
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Speaker 3: I can I can do that?
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Speaker 1: Did they show him on camera ever?
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Speaker 3: Think?
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Speaker 1: Did he just straight up not go? Was he like,
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Speaker 1: bleep you? Then I'm not showing up to this thing.
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Speaker 3: I'd be mad too. The coolest thing about the derby
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Speaker 3: last night after Jordan Walker won it, And by the way,
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Speaker 3: he got more money for winning the derby last night,
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Speaker 3: a million bucks than he's paid all season. He's making
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Speaker 3: eight hundred grand with the Cardinals. Baseball's crazy. He's making
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Speaker 3: eight hundred grand and now he makes a million for winter.
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Speaker 3: Can you help me understand baseball salary world? How does that?
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Speaker 3: How does that work?
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Speaker 1: Because it's all depending on how much you've played, and
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Speaker 1: it's about.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.
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Speaker 1: You can renew the contract of their rookie deal if
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Speaker 1: they haven't played x amount of games, but if they
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Speaker 1: do get beyond that, then you have to pay a
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Speaker 1: different minimum thing. It's yeah, bizarre, but he really hasn't.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't had a year that's like warranted. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: gonna get paid big bucks up until this season.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well then why was he invited to home run Derby.
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Speaker 1: Because he's like, he's got twenty two homers?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he's.
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Speaker 2: Got twenty seven. Our guy's got twenty seven home runs.
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Speaker 3: Eighteen on the right, so inted over.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Why is that cat from Kansas City with the mustache invited?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't like it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't have the answers to these those answers either.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this guy shows up and steals the show.
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Speaker 3: The best part was them interviewing his family afterwards. You
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Speaker 3: see how hyped his mom and dad were.
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Speaker 1: They won a million dollars for them. He hasn't gotten
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Speaker 1: the forty million dollars a year deal yet. He's only
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Speaker 1: twenty four years old, by the way, He's still really
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Speaker 1: really young, So that's a part of it.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's it's that game that they play. If you remember
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Speaker 1: the very famous beef back in the day, was the
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Speaker 1: Cubs didn't call up this is young Chris Bryant, not
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Speaker 1: this Chris Bryant, but they knew he was going to
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Speaker 1: be a big player for him, they refuse to call
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Speaker 1: him up until a certain date within the calendar because
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Speaker 1: of his con because if they did that, they could
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Speaker 1: keep his rights for another year without having to negotiate.
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Speaker 3: Teams do that all the time.
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Speaker 1: So it's Jordan Walker. I think his contract is one
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Speaker 1: of those things. Here, here's eight one hundred grand for
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Speaker 1: this year. We'll talk later, that sort of thing, but
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Speaker 1: that is I mean, you want to you want to
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Speaker 1: incentivize players to participate in winning the home run derby,
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Speaker 1: tell them you'll make more money doing this than your
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Speaker 1: entire season.
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Speaker 2: Can I say this though about a major league rookie?
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Speaker 4: It?
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, his contract. So he sent a two point
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Speaker 1: nine million dollars signing bonus in twenty twenty and he's
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Speaker 1: gotten paid anywhere from five hundred to seven hundred grand
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Speaker 1: ses okay.
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Speaker 2: Which is a lot of money.
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Speaker 4: I mean baseball wise, when show he's making what sixty
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Speaker 4: per seventy per whatever. Yeah, it's a you know, there's
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Speaker 4: a little discrepancy there, right, But this is a lot
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Speaker 4: of money. When I tell you, you know this, maybe
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Speaker 4: the listeners and viewers don't know this. He could live
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Speaker 4: off the Saint Louis Cardinals all year long and not
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Speaker 4: spend a dime of his own money, you know that, right?
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Speaker 1: With food shop for sure. Do you guys ever see
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Speaker 1: the tweets from the Rockies when they're like hopping on
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Speaker 1: a plane to go somewhere and you just see the
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Speaker 1: meal that they're being prepared on the plane and it's
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Speaker 1: like the four advertisers, five entre hands.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. But but I mean, but on game
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Speaker 2: days in the clubhouse.
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Speaker 3: And I've been in a clubhouse on game day.
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Speaker 2: So what I'm telling you is he could live.
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Speaker 4: It's not act like, uh, you know, guy, how's he
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Speaker 4: going to survive on eight hundred grand if he wanted to?
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Speaker 4: If he wanted to, he could literally live off the
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Speaker 4: ball club for a year.
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Speaker 3: When I was in the news and I used to
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Speaker 3: go to Corsfield a lot, he used to be on
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Speaker 3: the news and we'd be in the clubhouse or in
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Speaker 3: the dugout. I used to take my handful of Bazuoka bubblegum.
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Speaker 3: That's just for the taking, for sure. That bazukah is
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Speaker 3: just all over the place. It's limitless, bottomless bazuoka bubblegum.
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Speaker 3: And I'm old enough to remember most you maybe too,
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Speaker 3: when they had chewing tobacco, just sitting out there, bottomless
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Speaker 3: and limitless.
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Speaker 2: Daddy like daddy heavy. Those were the days, Bro.
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Speaker 1: I still remember it was. I worked a visiting clubhouse
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Speaker 1: for the Triple A team in Omaha, and I was
15:21
Speaker 1: tasked with going and I was their runner. Whenever the
15:24
Speaker 1: players needed they would just tell me, Hey, go get
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Speaker 1: me chew and I have to run in the clubhouse,
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Speaker 1: grab the stuff, bring it back out. It's a great job.
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Speaker 1: And so he's like, can you get me some beers?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, first of all, I'm eighteen, can't really
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Speaker 1: do that. Second of all, what did you want me
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Speaker 1: to leave the stadium, drive to like a gas station
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Speaker 1: and come back.
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Speaker 3: I can't do that.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: It's the one thing I couldn't do.
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Speaker 4: There should be beers a plenty inside the home clubhouse,
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Speaker 4: inside one of their fridges.
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Speaker 2: They should have cases and cases of corps light or something.
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Speaker 2: They should. I think they.
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Speaker 1: Changed those rules. I don't know is alcohol allowed in
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Speaker 1: the locker room anymore, because.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it I have no idea why not.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it goes back to was it Darryl Kyle?
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Speaker 1: Was that his name? The guy who died in the
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Speaker 1: the car crash after leaving the stadium one night. I
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Speaker 1: think they like banned booze post games from.
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Speaker 2: The Kyle died. No, he heart problem.
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Speaker 1: He had a heart problem. Yeah, there was somebody who
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Speaker 1: died leaving the stadium and might have had a couple
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Speaker 1: of drinks before that, and I think they said, Okay,
16:27
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that anymore. I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, but three oh three, five, four nine, two
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Speaker 1: five shot mas de texts on one price, one person,
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Speaker 1: one hour, Yes.
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Speaker 3: Brett last last thought on Home Run Derby last night.
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Speaker 3: Does anybody in the world besides Pete Carroll tow their
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Speaker 3: gum as violently as Jordan Walker?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's constant.
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Speaker 3: He was doing to that gum. I mean he was
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Speaker 3: beating that gum up is it?
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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that baseball players, especially guys who chew gum,
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Speaker 1: because they've been doing this their entire life and taking
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Speaker 1: BP chewing gum and all this stuff. The guys who
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Speaker 1: can blow a bubble mid swing and still hit the ball.
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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible. Not to brag, but Cubs got bubble
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Speaker 3: blowing champion right here when I was ten. No big deal.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it.
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Speaker 1: There are things about you that are so incredibly nerdy.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing nerdy about it. I know how to make bubbles,
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Speaker 3: big ones, big ones, hubba bubba.
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I've known anybody who
17:48
Speaker 1: can recite chapter and verse every single little thing that
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Speaker 1: they've ever won in their life in competition.
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Speaker 3: I don't back down. They said to me at the
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Speaker 3: age of ten, can you blow bubbles? I said, watch me,
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Speaker 3: I let it go.
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Speaker 1: He's very bad.
18:08
Speaker 2: Ride your bike.
18:10
Speaker 1: All right after this. I don't know what this song is.
18:13
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're saying, but I like it.
18:21
Speaker 1: Song is called where is my husband?
18:25
Speaker 2: All right?
18:26
Speaker 1: Question? My wife asked when we go to Costco?
18:32
Speaker 3: Dude, dude, does your wife do the same thing to
18:34
Speaker 3: you that my wife does to me at Costco or
18:36
Speaker 3: any run to store? Stop? Stop stop buying stuff. Stop,
18:45
Speaker 3: It's gotta stop. At some point you have to hold
18:48
Speaker 3: off stop it.
18:50
Speaker 1: Look, maybe this is part of aging.
18:53
Speaker 3: I don't know.
18:55
Speaker 1: I have become like Costco is one of my favorite
18:57
Speaker 1: places in the world. I just I adore it.
19:00
Speaker 3: Do it.
19:01
Speaker 1: But if I go to a Costco that's not the
19:05
Speaker 1: one that I usually go to, it takes me thirty
19:09
Speaker 1: minutes to find out where something is. If it's not
19:13
Speaker 1: in if it's not produce, or if it's not clothes
19:17
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of the store. If I
19:19
Speaker 1: gotta find batteries, it's gonna take me ten minutes because
19:22
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it is it by the golf equipment,
19:25
Speaker 1: is it by the motor oil? Do you have it
19:27
Speaker 1: over by the sheds that you're selling? Where are the
19:30
Speaker 1: things that I'm looking for?
19:32
Speaker 3: The problem with Costco is that every every single thing
19:37
Speaker 3: you see on the shelves you already have, but they
19:41
Speaker 3: have such a great deal on them that you're like,
19:43
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pass this up. Fire alarms, I've got them,
19:48
Speaker 3: but I mean, there's six for six bucks, I gotta
19:51
Speaker 3: have them.
19:53
Speaker 1: Why is this wheelbarrow only fifty dollars? I could use that,
19:57
Speaker 1: I don't know what for I could if I could
19:59
Speaker 1: find a way to use it.
20:00
Speaker 3: I bought a bucket to wash my car with you know,
20:03
Speaker 3: it comes with all the all the accouterments, all the
20:06
Speaker 3: stuff to wash your car. It's been in my garage
20:08
Speaker 3: for two years. I've never opened it.
20:11
Speaker 1: But you had to have it. But I have it.
20:12
Speaker 3: You had to it was there, it had to be bought.
20:16
Speaker 1: Can I ask you guys something, because I'm getting pretty
20:18
Speaker 1: sick of this new report here from Mark Stein? The
20:24
Speaker 1: Bucks are interested in acquiring Peyton Watson via a sign
20:28
Speaker 1: in trade. So he said this, also about the Hawks,
20:32
Speaker 1: he said this about the Clippers. Yeah, here's my question.
20:38
Speaker 1: If you're interested in something, do it or don't? What
20:43
Speaker 1: are we doing here? What does interestedn't mean?
20:46
Speaker 3: Like, I'm glad you you you.
20:48
Speaker 2: Can make him an offer?
20:50
Speaker 1: What is the interest offer him?
20:52
Speaker 3: Then? I'm glad you brought this up with my friend
20:54
Speaker 3: because I did some digging. I did some digging on
20:58
Speaker 3: the fad of Peyton Watson and where the nuggets stand.
21:02
Speaker 3: And I have some answers for our audience today. So
21:06
Speaker 3: sit back and listen. Here's the deal. In light of
21:10
Speaker 3: the Lebron James situation, which is holding everybody hostage, and
21:14
Speaker 3: I'm told the decision could be made by the end
21:17
Speaker 3: of this week. The only other domino to fall for
21:21
Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets right now is Peyton Watson, and it's
21:24
Speaker 3: a big domino because it will determine a lot of
21:26
Speaker 3: different things that they will do. But they are indeed
21:30
Speaker 3: embroiled in a staring contest with Peyton Watson, and the
21:34
Speaker 3: stearing contest involves the rest of the NBA because the
21:38
Speaker 3: rest of the league understands that the Nuggets are handcuffed
21:41
Speaker 3: financially with the luxury tax and the repeater tax, so
21:45
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they can. A lot of
21:47
Speaker 3: these teams to apply pressure on the Nuggets to play
21:52
Speaker 3: this little game of chicken with the Nuggets. Do we
21:56
Speaker 3: dare offer Peyton Watson a big contract so you have
21:59
Speaker 3: to match even though we know that you're gonna have
22:02
Speaker 3: trouble matching because you're near the repeater tax line. Do
22:04
Speaker 3: we do we do that? Or do we play good
22:07
Speaker 3: soldier and try to offer you a sign and trade
22:10
Speaker 3: package deal? Well, the Nuggets do not have to agree
22:12
Speaker 3: to a sign and trade, nor do the Nuggets have
22:14
Speaker 3: to agree to matching any offer. They don't. So I
22:18
Speaker 3: think teams like Milwaukee what they're doing right now is
22:21
Speaker 3: getting the word out that they're interested in Peyton Watson,
22:24
Speaker 3: even though they may or may not be hoping that
22:27
Speaker 3: the Nuggets relent and do a sign and trade and
22:31
Speaker 3: take less. That's what's happening right now. That's exactly what's happening.
22:37
Speaker 3: They may not be as interested as you think they are,
22:40
Speaker 3: but they're interested in seeing if the Nuggets will take
22:42
Speaker 3: the bait.
22:44
Speaker 1: So they're trying to drive the trade price down, is
22:47
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
22:48
Speaker 3: They're trying to get the Nuggets involved in a package
22:52
Speaker 3: that otherwise they would not want to be involved with.
22:55
Speaker 3: Take on this guy, will trade you this dude so
22:58
Speaker 3: that we could take Peyton Watson off your hands, because
23:01
Speaker 3: we know at the end of the day, you.
23:02
Speaker 4: Can't afford to keep yep. But ultimately the Nuggets won
23:04
Speaker 4: Peyton Watson. He's an asset they do. But again, this
23:09
Speaker 4: is the question that needs to be answered.
23:11
Speaker 3: Do you take on Peyton Watson, which they may at
23:15
Speaker 3: a market rate price. Let's say you pay them twenty million.
23:18
Speaker 3: Let's say you pay them twenty two million. If you
23:20
Speaker 3: do that, then you engage that huge tax bill.
23:25
Speaker 1: Are you willing to go there or you gotta offload
23:27
Speaker 1: somebody else?
23:28
Speaker 3: Or do you offload somebody else, because if they engage
23:31
Speaker 3: with Peyton Watson and give him the long term deal
23:34
Speaker 3: he desires, the Denver Nuggets roster is gonna be north
23:37
Speaker 3: of four hundred million dollars. It'll be the most expensive
23:40
Speaker 3: roster in the NBA unless they unload another one of
23:44
Speaker 3: those big contracts.
23:47
Speaker 1: I think that they're probably going to I just saw
23:49
Speaker 1: another report by the way of Again, this is just interest,
23:53
Speaker 1: but the Bucks also could emerge as a suitor for
23:56
Speaker 1: Cam Johnson if the Nuggets are looking to move.
23:59
Speaker 3: Perhaps that's where the conversations live. I'm gonna ask you
24:01
Speaker 3: guys a question. I want our listeners to engage in
24:03
Speaker 3: this too, please, and and I need you to make
24:07
Speaker 3: a distinction here, because everyone is willing to spend other
24:12
Speaker 3: people's money. That's easy to do when Moser comes to
24:15
Speaker 3: the office, when he comes to the studio in the
24:17
Speaker 3: morning with a fist full of bills, and you've had
24:19
Speaker 3: a lot of bills lately, I'm gonna give you credit.
24:21
Speaker 3: You've had some cash. I've never seen you go right
24:24
Speaker 3: with cash before two Bucks. I don't know where you're
24:27
Speaker 3: getting all this cash. I don't know who you're robbing,
24:29
Speaker 3: but you've got a lot of cash in your pockets,
24:32
Speaker 3: so it's easy to spend other people's money. I have
24:35
Speaker 3: totally get it.
24:36
Speaker 2: That's news to me. But thank you.
24:37
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna tell you guys what to think
24:40
Speaker 3: about other people's money. But I'm gonna ask you just
24:42
Speaker 3: to put on your businessman's hat for a second. Put
24:44
Speaker 3: it on, put it on your head. Do you think
24:48
Speaker 3: the Nuggets roster presently constructed the roster that you saw
24:53
Speaker 3: play in the playoffs this year, minus Tim Hardaway and
24:56
Speaker 3: Jonnas Falin Shoess and now plus a couple other dude
25:00
Speaker 3: that they added in the offseason. With the re addition
25:04
Speaker 3: of Peyton Watson, you put paint Watson back on it,
25:07
Speaker 3: and now you're paying over four hundred million dollars for
25:09
Speaker 3: that roster excessive taxes. Do you think that roster is
25:12
Speaker 3: good enough to win an NBA championship?
25:15
Speaker 2: Uh?
25:19
Speaker 4: If a lot of things went right, especially health, they
25:23
Speaker 4: could contend, I wouldn't.
25:25
Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel great about it.
25:27
Speaker 3: I like that roster an NBA championship.
25:29
Speaker 1: My first just gut reaction is no. But I think
25:33
Speaker 1: most is right on this. If health is in their
25:35
Speaker 1: favor this year, I think they'll have a shot at all.
25:38
Speaker 3: Alan Baca, you watched every game as the loyal soldier
25:42
Speaker 3: there with cause. Do you think Marvin Bagley and Alfa
25:45
Speaker 3: Diallo replacing Yona's valanchout and is to Tim Hardaway and
25:49
Speaker 3: the rest of the roster, do you think it's good
25:51
Speaker 3: enough to win an NBA time?
25:53
Speaker 1: Those guys that you mentioned don't really move the needle
25:55
Speaker 1: for me. But yeah, I have healthy with Jamal and Joker.
25:58
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, so I bring that up. Here's the reason,
26:01
Speaker 3: all right, so that that is the baseline. Yet you
26:03
Speaker 3: want to win a title? Would you pay four hundred
26:05
Speaker 3: million dollars for a shot to win that title? You're
26:08
Speaker 3: the businessman, now you're not.
26:10
Speaker 1: No, I would tell you I would not make that bet.
26:13
Speaker 1: I would not make that bet. I wouldn't go that. Look,
26:18
Speaker 1: if I'm going deep into the tax, it's got to
26:20
Speaker 1: be for something. I truly believe this.
26:23
Speaker 3: You do it for like Lebron James for sure? Right,
26:26
Speaker 3: Like if if.
26:27
Speaker 1: Lebron signed here for the minimum, Yeah, I'm paying.
26:30
Speaker 2: That, okay, what and I'll do more more?
26:33
Speaker 3: Sure? So I ask you, I ask everyone who out
26:36
Speaker 3: there who's easy to spend other people's money? And understand, well,
26:40
Speaker 3: then what are we doing here? Why would you engage
26:43
Speaker 3: in that?
26:43
Speaker 1: See, but I always talk about it in this sense.
26:45
Speaker 1: It's not to me when it comes to contracts in
26:49
Speaker 1: football and basketball and hockey whatever, and you hear a
26:53
Speaker 1: lot of like, well, it's not your money, it's not.
26:57
Speaker 1: But it's my money in the sense of I'm a
27:00
Speaker 1: sports fan, I love my team, and there are salary caps,
27:05
Speaker 1: so how you spend the money that is available within
27:08
Speaker 1: the cap structure is very important to me.
27:11
Speaker 3: And and don't don't forget this with the CBA restrictions.
27:15
Speaker 3: If you go into that tax, it's just not a
27:17
Speaker 3: financial problem, a financial sacrifice. You're not allowed to engage
27:21
Speaker 3: in stuff.
27:22
Speaker 2: So it's it's a roster. It's a roster. Handcuff as well.
27:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do the that's what I'm saying. You
27:28
Speaker 3: can't pick up guys at after the trade deadline who
27:31
Speaker 3: are bought out, a lot of that. You can't do
27:33
Speaker 3: things that other teams do. So not only does it
27:35
Speaker 3: restrict you a bit financially, what shouldn't matter to us,
27:38
Speaker 3: it's not our money, but it restricts your availability to
27:42
Speaker 3: pick up people if you need them.
27:43
Speaker 1: Okay, here's I made this comparison in the Appetizer. Actually
27:46
Speaker 1: not in the same way that we're doing it now,
27:48
Speaker 1: But when the Broncos had eighty five million dollars in
27:52
Speaker 1: dead cap space from the Russell will Wilson contract hanging
27:55
Speaker 1: over their heads for two years, the only way the
28:00
Speaker 1: Broncos were successful at navigating that was by spending their
28:05
Speaker 1: money wisely. They could not make a big investment in
28:09
Speaker 1: something that tanked. They wouldn't be good. They had no depth, right,
28:13
Speaker 1: So they spent their money on Zach Allen in free agency,
28:17
Speaker 1: and Mike mcglinchy and Ben Powers and a whole bunch
28:22
Speaker 1: of guys that are mainstays, trustworthy players. If they spent
28:27
Speaker 1: that on a whole bunch of Randy Gregory contracts, the
28:30
Speaker 1: Broncos would have sucked. They wouldn't been close to making
28:33
Speaker 1: it a Super Bowl, let alone playoffs.
28:36
Speaker 4: They also have a quarterback on a rookie contract, which
28:39
Speaker 4: helps immensely.
28:41
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, when it comes to spending money
28:44
Speaker 1: as an organization, my interest as a fan is you
28:47
Speaker 1: can spend the money wherever you choose to spend the money,
28:50
Speaker 1: but you have to do it correctly and wisely agreed.
28:55
Speaker 1: I don't care who you give it to, as long
28:56
Speaker 1: as the guy you give it to is deserving of
28:59
Speaker 1: the cash. And that's kind of what you're running into
29:01
Speaker 1: with Watson here. I don't think anybody knows what the
29:04
Speaker 1: right number is.
29:06
Speaker 2: I don't know.
29:07
Speaker 1: We just brought up do you remember vic in the bubble?
29:10
Speaker 1: There's a guy on the Indiana Pacers by the name
29:12
Speaker 1: of TJ. Warren that lit the bubble up. Yep, when
29:17
Speaker 1: everybody where he now though he's been out of the
29:19
Speaker 1: league for like two years, there you go.
29:20
Speaker 3: Had some time in Phoenix.
29:22
Speaker 1: So he put up fifty three, thirty four, thirty two
29:25
Speaker 1: thirty nine, like he went nuts in the bubble, and
29:28
Speaker 1: everybody said, man, that guy's gonna be a hot name
29:30
Speaker 1: in the offseason. And you know what happened afterwards.
29:34
Speaker 2: Nothing.
29:35
Speaker 1: Warren was out of the league in like three years.
29:39
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of the month that
29:42
Speaker 1: Peyton Watson had. And I don't think the Clippers do,
29:45
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Bucks do, and I don't
29:47
Speaker 1: think the Hawks do. And all these teams that are
29:49
Speaker 1: rumored when they say I'm interested, if I go to
29:53
Speaker 1: the store, most if you own a TV store. Okay,
29:56
Speaker 1: I was like, I want a brand new fifty five
29:58
Speaker 1: inch team O.
29:59
Speaker 2: Was his house of TVs.
30:01
Speaker 1: I'm interested in buying a TV, very interested.
30:07
Speaker 2: Wall you to stand there all day with your teeth
30:09
Speaker 2: in your mouth, you're gonna buy one?
30:11
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm interesting, Like is that? What does
30:14
Speaker 1: that mean? If I walk into your Moser's house of
30:18
Speaker 1: TVs one TV please look, and then I walk out
30:22
Speaker 1: of the store.
30:24
Speaker 4: It's funny to me too, because they're talking about sign
30:26
Speaker 4: and trade. It seems like if these teams make an offer,
30:30
Speaker 4: they want Peyton want they want they want the player. Okay,
30:33
Speaker 4: the most secure way to do that is to agree
30:37
Speaker 4: with the Nuggets and have the Nuggets agree to you
30:39
Speaker 4: to assign and trade, because then you're guaranteed that player
30:42
Speaker 4: and then you offload some whatever. But I see what
30:46
Speaker 4: you're saying, Brett. I mean they could just offer him
30:48
Speaker 4: twenty million dollars a.
30:50
Speaker 2: Weeks.
30:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the unfortunate situation with the Nuggets salary
30:55
Speaker 3: structure right now. And here's where it sucks. Because Payton
31:00
Speaker 3: Watson views himself as a better player than Christian Brown.
31:04
Speaker 3: For example, he views himself as a better player he
31:07
Speaker 3: might be okay. So if that's the case, then he's like, okay,
31:11
Speaker 3: why am I not making his money or more than that.
31:15
Speaker 3: If this were another roster where there's that not that
31:18
Speaker 3: order or those contracts, this wouldn't be this wouldn't be
31:21
Speaker 3: brought up. They'd be saying, here's what you're getting, here's
31:23
Speaker 3: what we think you're worth. But because he's placing that standard,
31:28
Speaker 3: that number out there saying I have a direct line
31:31
Speaker 3: of a dude that I was in the same draft
31:33
Speaker 3: class I should be getting that, that's what's troubling in
31:38
Speaker 3: these negotiations.
31:39
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's three options for a Peyton Watson contract
31:43
Speaker 1: at the number he's gonna get. Let's call it twenty
31:46
Speaker 1: five ish million dollars. Who say that somewhere in that
31:50
Speaker 1: ballpark could be twenty two, could be thirty, somewhere in.
31:52
Speaker 2: There could could it be eighteen? I don't think so.
31:56
Speaker 1: There's three options, and I think all of them are
32:00
Speaker 1: equally viable. One is that he plays to the contract,
32:05
Speaker 1: and he plays to a twenty five million dollar player, right,
32:08
Speaker 1: which is about Christian Brown level. You're averaging sixteen seventeen
32:12
Speaker 1: points a game, doing some stuff on defense, there's also
32:16
Speaker 1: a chance that he plays way beyond twenty five million dollars,
32:20
Speaker 1: that he's somewhere twenty two points per game like he
32:23
Speaker 1: was in January. That would be shooting forty six percent
32:26
Speaker 1: from three like he did in January. There's also an
32:28
Speaker 1: option in which he plays way less than that and
32:31
Speaker 1: he becomes a guy who's just a bench guy who
32:34
Speaker 1: gives you a little energy off the bench. And that's it.
32:35
Speaker 1: This is I think all of them are equal.
32:39
Speaker 3: You forgot option four in this matter that he plays
32:41
Speaker 3: this season for the qualifying offer that he's been given
32:45
Speaker 3: and he's not going to be happy about that, and
32:47
Speaker 3: that during the season they assess we can move him
32:52
Speaker 3: for some parts or god, he's so good, we're keeping
32:55
Speaker 3: him and they find a way during the season.
32:56
Speaker 4: Okay, Vic that that that sounds reasonable to me. But
33:00
Speaker 4: where do hurt feelings start to creep in?
33:02
Speaker 3: Well, they're already they've already crept up. I mean the
33:04
Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors went through this with Jonathan Kaminga. I mean,
33:08
Speaker 3: it's just like hockey. Most when hockey players go to arbitration, right,
33:11
Speaker 3: her feelings creep up. Well, when you become an RFA
33:14
Speaker 3: in the NBA and in the final year year deal,
33:16
Speaker 3: and both sides are sort of dug in. They're already
33:19
Speaker 3: hurt feelings. If you don't think they're hurt feelings in
33:21
Speaker 3: your naive, I mean, what do you think Peyton Watson
33:23
Speaker 3: feels like right now? Hey, man, pay me what I
33:25
Speaker 3: think I'm worth. And the Nuggets are like, well, dude,
33:28
Speaker 3: look at our situation. We really can't.
33:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, get back to this.
33:33
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it, man, I get it.
33:34
Speaker 3: Everybody's got concessions. I would feel if I'm Payton Watson's camp,
33:38
Speaker 3: I would feel a certain way. If I'm the Nuggets,
33:40
Speaker 3: I would feel a certain way. I get it from
33:42
Speaker 3: both sides. I'm asking you, as the listener, as the
33:45
Speaker 3: Nuggets fan, would you pay in excess of four hundred
33:49
Speaker 3: million dollars for this roster if this was your team,
33:51
Speaker 3: your business? If are you sure that this is a
33:55
Speaker 3: championship team? Because if you're sure, then you pay it.
33:58
Speaker 3: If you're unsure, why would.
33:59
Speaker 1: You three oh three five, four oh nine to two
34:03
Speaker 1: five back after this? One thing to keep in mind,
34:10
Speaker 1: I don't know how people feel about this, but when
34:14
Speaker 1: the Nuggets drafted Hunter Tyson and Jalen Pickett. They signed
34:19
Speaker 1: them to fully guaranteed contracts, and they did that without
34:22
Speaker 1: really knowing what their game was. And I wondered if
34:25
Speaker 1: they were going to take a more cautious approach to
34:27
Speaker 1: the two second rounders this year in Trevor Brazil Bryce Hopkins. Well,
34:31
Speaker 1: Brazil's already got a contract now, he's signed four years,
34:34
Speaker 1: nine point three million dollars and he did that with
34:38
Speaker 1: one Summer League game under his belt. Now, maybe they
34:41
Speaker 1: just know that he's going to be part of the
34:43
Speaker 1: rotation or sorry, part of the roster, and they need
34:47
Speaker 1: to fill out roster spots with cheap contracts. All right,
34:49
Speaker 1: here you go, here's one. But are you a little
34:53
Speaker 1: gunshy now after what happened with Jalen Picketts and Hunter Tyson's.
34:57
Speaker 3: But you have no choice. Your roster controuled as such
35:00
Speaker 3: that you have to fill five chairs with the minimum deals.
35:03
Speaker 3: I know, rookie deals are essential otherwise you can't fill
35:06
Speaker 3: the roster. So what choice do you have is that.
35:13
Speaker 1: Well they went and they shopped for Alpha Diallo.
35:16
Speaker 3: But that's cause they only have two picks in the draft.
35:18
Speaker 3: They have two draft picks. They had two other spots
35:20
Speaker 3: to fill, you know, you know what's going on? Said
35:23
Speaker 3: here is all right. We know that Peyton Watson, there's
35:26
Speaker 3: a concerted effort to get him signed. We know that.
35:30
Speaker 2: What about Bruce Brown?
35:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why you wouldn't
35:36
Speaker 1: want that back.
35:37
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've talked about other guards in the
35:40
Speaker 3: lineup and they they've made it known they need ball handling.
35:45
Speaker 3: They're pushing the ball handling. And I'm wondering if the
35:47
Speaker 3: Alpha Diallo signing has made Bruce Brown expendable.
35:53
Speaker 2: Maybe what are we doing with Tyas Jones?
35:56
Speaker 3: He signed, He's on the team. He's a backup guard.
35:58
Speaker 2: I understand that.
35:59
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, what are we doing with him in
36:00
Speaker 4: terms of his playing time, ball handling and so on.
36:04
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be the backup is That's why
36:06
Speaker 4: I'm asking.
36:06
Speaker 2: Is that the guy? Then that's the guy.
36:10
Speaker 1: Could be See this is when you ask the question,
36:13
Speaker 1: Vic of do you think that this team is built
36:16
Speaker 1: for a championship to spend four hundred million dollars on
36:20
Speaker 1: we're talking about well, you have to fill out roster
36:23
Speaker 1: spots with Alfa Diallo's and Trevor Brazil's and Tias Jones
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, that doesn't sound like what championships teams do.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. There's such a hard read just
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Speaker 1: because if the team's healthy, I think they're pretty damn good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they never.
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Speaker 1: Were last year, So how the hell can I judge?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it hard? Man? I go back to look
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Speaker 3: at the NBA Finals and the Knicks beat a somewhat
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Speaker 3: healthy San Antonio team. Both of those teams are healthy, right, Yeah?
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Speaker 3: They were healthy. Yeah, they weren't missing key guys. I
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Speaker 3: know Nnob had the hamstring injury at one point, but
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Speaker 3: he got back from that. And I know the Spurs,
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Speaker 3: what issues did they have? They Dylan Harper pulled a muscle,
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Speaker 3: he got back, He wasn't he wasn't out long. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but they didn't have Neither of those teams had those
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Speaker 3: perplexing four to six week injuries in the most important
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Speaker 3: juncture of the season, and the Nuggets simply could not
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Speaker 3: avoid the four to six weeks. If I hear four
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Speaker 3: to six weeks again, God mean, get right one more time?
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Speaker 3: What I hey, man, there's someone to hit me with
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Speaker 3: four to six weeks.
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Speaker 4: Stop for a second, because I'm gonna be perfectly blunt
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Speaker 4: and honest, I'm scared of that injury.
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Speaker 2: Vic, I I don't.
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Speaker 4: I want to, but I don't think I can trust
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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon and his and his leg. I just I
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Speaker 4: don't know. I can't do it at this point.
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Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know what you do. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Because when he's healthy, even at his price tag, he's a.
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Speaker 2: Valuable player for this team. Valuable. I mean this.
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Speaker 4: You know what's so funny about this? I called this
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Speaker 4: months ago. I said, you know what these guys are
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Speaker 4: in a real pickle. And I'm telling you right now
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Speaker 4: that pickle gets bigger every day. The more I look
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Speaker 4: at this pickle on the side of my plate, it's
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Speaker 4: a cucumber now like it's a big old pickle.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 3: But what's said is that Aaron Gordon's first first three.
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Speaker 2: Man, And I don't like it, Vic.
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Speaker 4: And all these things are all these things are figuring
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Speaker 4: into the I mean all the Peyton Watson's and the
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Speaker 4: unknown rookies and the filling out rosters in the Aaron
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Speaker 4: Gordon's leg and this is all filling into make this
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Speaker 4: pickle a gigantic one.
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Speaker 3: What scares you more enough?
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Speaker 1: A bunch of big pickles.
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Speaker 3: What frightens you more. Is it Aaron Gordon, who's north
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Speaker 3: of thirty, who's had these recurring hamstring injuries, or is
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Speaker 3: it Peyton Watson who's twenty three, who's had a couple
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Speaker 3: of these same hamstring injuries.
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Speaker 1: It's the older guy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you from my experience.
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Speaker 4: Remember standing in front of Jeff Buzzadelic years ago, head
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Speaker 4: coach of the Denver Nuggets, and he also said he
39:24
Speaker 4: asked the of a standing regulars, what would you if
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Speaker 4: you won the lottery today? What would you do tomorrow?
39:31
Speaker 4: He said, I'm sure a lot of you probably quit
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Speaker 4: your job. Sometimes guys get paid and they quit their job.
39:38
Speaker 4: Not necessarily they don't play that well anymore, but they
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Speaker 4: are The motivation is not the same once that bag
39:48
Speaker 4: is secured. I'm not saying that Peyton Watson is that guy.
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Speaker 2: But part of all of this is it's all part
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Speaker 2: of my pickle.
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Speaker 1: I know he doan beings. He's look, Watson probably thinks
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Speaker 1: of himself as I could be one of the best
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Speaker 1: players in the league. Now, that's however, I would hope
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Speaker 1: that he I would hope that he could be.
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Speaker 2: That would be unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: How every athlete thinks. But if you think you're that,
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Speaker 1: then you're not gonna be like, oh, I'm getting paid
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars a year. I'm set. You're thinking yourself,
40:19
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get sixty like all those other Max contract
40:22
Speaker 1: guys that get.
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Speaker 3: Uh from a Texter, Alex writes, And I think Minnesota
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Speaker 3: and the Lakers got better. As constructed. We are the
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Speaker 3: sixth best team in the West. And you could say
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Speaker 3: that based on offseason stuff. But what if I countered
40:34
Speaker 3: with this, What if you just did have those guys available?
40:37
Speaker 3: What if Joker doesn't miss a month? What if Brown
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Speaker 3: Christian Brown is healthy and not playing on one leg?
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Speaker 3: What what if?
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Speaker 2: What if?
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Speaker 3: Here's the problem we have as human beings and as
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Speaker 3: sports fans. We assume health firsthand. Assuming health is not
40:55
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be healthy all the time. It's just
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Speaker 3: not going to happen. You have to build it in.
40:59
Speaker 3: You have to build it in. It's gonna someone's gonna
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Speaker 3: go down. Who that someone is is gonna obviously dictate
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Speaker 3: how well you playing where you go. And I look
41:08
Speaker 3: back at that first round series, the least the worst
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Speaker 3: two injuries they could have are there two athletic Bigs.
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Speaker 3: There are two guys who they needed on the court
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Speaker 3: in that Minnesota series. They lost them both. It's an
41:23
Speaker 3: excellent reminder, Vic. They were down virtually two and a
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Speaker 3: half guys. This Kristen Brown was playing.
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Speaker 2: As a half guy. He just he wasn't I mean,
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Speaker 2: he couldn't jump, he couldn't do anything.
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Speaker 3: Is that an excuse?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: I mean are.
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Speaker 4: That It's not It's not an excuse, but it's a factor.
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Speaker 4: And it's a reason, okay, because they lost.
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Speaker 1: No is not having bo Nicks in the AFC Championship
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Speaker 1: game an excuse.
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Speaker 2: Reason why you got the result you got.
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Speaker 3: You know, you mentioned Aaron Gordon and his pension for injury.
41:52
Speaker 3: Is Aaron Gordon pretty much like JK. Dobbins is to
41:55
Speaker 3: the Broncos.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say I'd say that's that's that's a pretty
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Speaker 4: good anouna No.
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Speaker 2: You know I know exactly where that's at. Inglewood. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean just I would.
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Speaker 4: I would top it Long Beach, ingle Wood, Inglewood always
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Speaker 3: Even everyone on the tech signs making great points. And
42:58
Speaker 3: this is what I kept that calling during the series.
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Speaker 3: We can blame the Nuggets demise on injuries, rightfully so,
43:05
Speaker 3: because it's not just an excuse, it's a reason. However,
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Speaker 3: Steven Smith style, However, the team you're playing was also
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Speaker 3: decimated by injuries. That's true. They beat you, they did.
43:19
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that they were even more decimated by
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Speaker 3: injuries and they beat you, they were worse with those injuries,
43:27
Speaker 3: So that excuse game in that series may not fly.
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Speaker 4: You know, it goes back to the abs were dealing
43:37
Speaker 4: with some stuff. Some dudes had some stuff. But what
43:42
Speaker 4: did Joe Sakic beck, I'm gonna ask you. You were
43:44
Speaker 4: the city right next to me. What did Joe Sakic?
43:48
Speaker 4: What was his demeanor? What did he say when asked
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Speaker 4: about the injuries in that Western Conference? No?
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Speaker 2: Zero excuse?
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Speaker 1: She said they're fine, Let's be ready for camp.
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Speaker 2: And that's all he's. Yeah, he said they'll be ready
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Speaker 2: for camp.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't mean that it wasn't a factor though,
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Speaker 4: that guys are playing on half legs and you know,
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Speaker 4: this kind of thing doesn't mean.
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Speaker 1: Vic brought up a name that I want to discuss
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Speaker 1: as this is that time of year for our lists,
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Speaker 1: but I want to make a comparison in the NFL
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Speaker 1: to college football. We'll do it next