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The Big Weekend Pod · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: the Big Weekend Pod. A great, great show today. I'm
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  Speaker 1: down my leadoff hitter with John Ellis. He's out, but
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  Speaker 1: I will be joined by Eli Lake, who will bat
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  Speaker 1: both first and second. Then Matt Connetty will come along
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  Speaker 1: second and third, and Big Ben domination in the cleanup
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  Speaker 1: spot as usual. And we're gonna add just in case
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  Speaker 1: you missed it, Havevive Reddy Gore from yesterday. That's an
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  Speaker 1: additional fifty minutes. If it looks like it's very long.
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  Speaker 1: You may have already heard uh havev talking to you
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday's podcast, but if you didn't, you definitely want
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  Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say to me on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: But for the Big Weekend Pod, Havevive is making an
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  Speaker 1: extra special appearance, so don't miss a minute of today's
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  Speaker 1: big weekend Pod. I'm Hewett inside the Beltway bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the Friday week in Review edition. Now jarn ellis is missing,
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  Speaker 1: so batting leadoff and in the two hole today, Eli
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  Speaker 1: Lake Eli is with the Free Press. He's the host
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  Speaker 1: of breaking histories, a man of extraordinary accomplishments, including, as
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  Speaker 1: you will hear in the next segment, a facility with
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  Speaker 1: ai and music. But Eli, let's begin with the war
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  Speaker 1: that's been suspended while the President has been in China,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what I think happened. The ceasefire that is
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  Speaker 1: in the ceasefire was kept at a low level of violence.
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  Speaker 1: But the big new development today Michael Waltz of the
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  Speaker 1: UN and posted, and I just reposted on X pictures
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  Speaker 1: of eighty thousand barrels of oil that Iran is just
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  Speaker 1: dumping into the Persian Gulf because they've gotten nowhere to
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  Speaker 1: put it. We've gotten to mac storage and Iran faster
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  Speaker 1: than we had. Nevertheless, I am hoping that when the
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  Speaker 1: President touched it down, kinetic actions combat operations resume immediately
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  Speaker 1: against Iran. What say you?
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  Speaker 2: The most important thing is that we continue the freedom
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  Speaker 2: of navigation operations and we defend vessels. I think we've
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  Speaker 2: already cleared a path that is mind free, and we
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  Speaker 2: have to establish that, and there will be kinetic action
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  Speaker 2: as part of it, because the Iranians have attacked US
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  Speaker 2: destroyers and they've attacked other ships. But it should be
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  Speaker 2: the main the main focus, I think should be at
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  Speaker 2: least that, and then if there are as we've been
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  Speaker 2: led to believe, although it's it's very interesting, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm did you catch Admiral Brad Cooper's testimony on the
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  Speaker 2: Hill yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So he was he made a pretty he
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  Speaker 2: sort of said these estimates that we didn't hit anything,
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  Speaker 2: or that you know, we we still have they still
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  Speaker 2: have something like ninety percent of their missiles. Not true.
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  Speaker 2: We've destroyed their ability to make missiles. And he went
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  Speaker 2: through all of the kind of military success countering leaks
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  Speaker 2: in the Washington Post and the New York Times. So
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  Speaker 2: if but I'm glad to believe that there are still
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  Speaker 2: other conventional military targets. So that would be nice to
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  Speaker 2: sort of take off the board as well if hostilities resume.
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  Speaker 2: But the main thing is demonstrating that theed that the
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  Speaker 2: US Navy, hopefully with allies, can bring international shipping through
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  Speaker 2: the straight of hor moves without being harassed and hit
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  Speaker 2: by the Iranian the IRGC.
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  Speaker 1: Navy, Eli, your fabulous colleague at the Free Press. Aaron
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  Speaker 1: McClain was on with Mark Dubovitz on the FBD Iran
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  Speaker 1: Breakdown podcast. Rarely do I listen to podcasts twice. I
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  Speaker 1: listened to this twice in one day because there are
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  Speaker 1: two guys who actually know what they're talking about in
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  Speaker 1: great detail. Yep, the freedom of navigation, the opening of
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  Speaker 1: the battle of our moves via a variety of techniques.
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  Speaker 1: They discussed that in detail. They did not discuss adding
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  Speaker 1: down to Iran from the air with a new targeting
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  Speaker 1: assessment that the Israelis in the United States will have
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  Speaker 1: developed and going back after the leadership, don't you think
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  Speaker 1: we in for a dollar in for everything?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. I think that it would be it
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  Speaker 2: would send an important message that you're still not safe.
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  Speaker 2: The idea that if you I mean, I reject the
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  Speaker 2: argument that we heard for a lot of the war
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  Speaker 2: critics that you got rid of Haminae and you got
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  Speaker 2: an even more hardline regime. It's ridiculous to me, it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, under Kamenee and Larajani, they murdered
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  Speaker 2: maybe up to forty two thousand. That's the number present.
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  Speaker 1: It's crime in the century and maybe to two centuries.
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  Speaker 1: Stalin killed a lot more, Mouth killed a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: But in thirty six hours, it's tough to beat that.
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  Speaker 2: Number, right in terms of right per per minute, per
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  Speaker 2: per hour.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So in that respect, I just you know, would say,
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  Speaker 2: if you feel that Vahiti, who is the commander currently
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  Speaker 2: of the IRGC, is an obstacle, well then take him
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  Speaker 2: out and you know, cause more fracturing. He has to
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  Speaker 2: finish the job, and I think in the end, you know,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully it leads to the collapse of the regime. But
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  Speaker 2: at the very least he's got to open up the
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  Speaker 2: straits and prove to everybody that this is that that
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  Speaker 2: that the that the bully is newter, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: And that's I think the key thing.
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  Speaker 1: President Jump did say at one point I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: take out every bridge and power plant. Any backed away
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  Speaker 1: from that, there is an argument to be made that
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  Speaker 1: we've got to cripple the regime. If we can't dislodge
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  Speaker 1: the top five hundred people, I'm sorry, people of Iran.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever want to be free, we have to
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  Speaker 1: cripple your regime, and that means your oil facilities and
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  Speaker 1: power plants to serve any part of the IRGC ought
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  Speaker 1: we to go back with a bombing plan to do that,
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  Speaker 1: even though it will take thirty years or rebuild, not three.
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  Speaker 2: In my if you taking out power plants would be
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  Speaker 2: a mistake because the people would pay much greater price,
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  Speaker 2: I think than anybody in the regime. I think you
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  Speaker 2: can make a very good argument for beginning to go
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  Speaker 2: after the oil facilities, and even though there's take a
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  Speaker 2: lot longer, and if you think about it, the damage
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  Speaker 2: done by excess capacity on the wells is also something
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  Speaker 2: that will take a long time to rebuild as well.
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  Speaker 2: So in that respect, I don't really have a problem
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  Speaker 2: going after sources of revenue for the regime. My issue
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  Speaker 2: is that if you take out a power plant for
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  Speaker 2: a major city, and there are quite a few in Iran,
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  Speaker 2: then you really are are adding an incredible burden to
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  Speaker 2: just the Iranian people that hopefully, in the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day will take to the streets to reclaim their country,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is the sort of endpoint that I
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  Speaker 2: still think is both possible and most desirable.
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  Speaker 1: That's the optim ending and I'm thinking about plunging them
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  Speaker 1: into darkness. Maybe you do it by cyber Okay Topic
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  Speaker 1: number two eli Nick Kristaff, Hugh Ewit's theory is anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 1: writ large, begins in the heart to spiritual disease, and
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  Speaker 1: it metastasizes to the head, to the brain, and the
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  Speaker 1: brain can offolk often covered up with anti Israeli stuff,
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  Speaker 1: But anti israel disease begins in the head and it
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  Speaker 1: metastasizes into the heart, or you become an anti semi
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  Speaker 1: With Nick Christop, I think it began in the head
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  Speaker 1: and traveled to the heart. Because I've known him as
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  Speaker 1: a radio person for years. I'm still stunned by this
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  Speaker 1: what happened to him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't want to get it. I
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  Speaker 2: can't get into his mind. But in my view, we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing this. I would look at this as the latest
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  Speaker 2: example of how anti Zionism, hating Israel is the price
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  Speaker 2: of admission to get into the progressive club. The left's
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  Speaker 2: this is the new litmus test. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: Nick Christoph, you know, is many things. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a bleeding heart. But the bottom at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, he is a liberal and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be left behind, and that so
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  Speaker 2: that I just think it's just he's going along to
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  Speaker 2: get along. The other thing is is that I mean
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  Speaker 2: the credulity that it takes to print the canine element
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  Speaker 2: of that story, but also to use an organization like Euromed.
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  Speaker 2: And I would even go so far as to say
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  Speaker 2: but Selim, which is an Israeli group. They get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of foreign funding, but they have had they have
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  Speaker 2: transformed over twenty five years from an organization that used
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of a good faith check on Israel
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  Speaker 2: that every you know, open society should have and every
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  Speaker 2: you know, republic should democratic republic should have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: human rights groups and critics of the government. But they
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  Speaker 2: have been they have joined a kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: they've joined a chorus from within Israel. So I just
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  Speaker 2: think that, you know, he's there's a huge infrastructure queue
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  Speaker 2: of you know NGOs that you know, basically there are
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  Speaker 2: there to create pages and pages of reports that very
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  Speaker 2: few people read, and then they're used then again as
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  Speaker 2: references in UN reports, and it creates a kind of
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  Speaker 2: paper trail to make Israel seem like a monstrous country.
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  Speaker 2: But when you start going through the individual examples and
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  Speaker 2: so forth, what you find is is that these are
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  Speaker 2: not credible accounts. They get certain things wrong, they're terribly
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  Speaker 2: one sided, and they basically exist to try to push
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  Speaker 2: the information or the soft power of war that is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to end the destruction of the only Jewish state
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  Speaker 2: of the world.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that begins through the eyes, the ears, and
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  Speaker 1: the and the sens and ends up being anti Semitism
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  Speaker 1: in the heart. You become diseased by the way. That's
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  Speaker 1: also Husay Monsieur's theory that he related to the Ready
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  Speaker 1: Gore that you can't get into the elite of the
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  Speaker 1: progressive movement unless you are anti ziotist.
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  Speaker 2: And I would just point something else also about the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times. When The New York Times wrote Screams
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  Speaker 2: without Words, there was a huge staff rebellion. There was
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  Speaker 2: an effort to try to get in some ways the
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  Speaker 2: paper to retract that story. They did not submit that
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  Speaker 2: story for certain journalism prizes because of all of this pressure. Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you compare those two accounts for Nick
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  Speaker 2: Christoff to the scream of that words scream of out
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  Speaker 2: words is far more rigorous, it's far better source. It's
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  Speaker 2: a much better example of journalism. And you compare that
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  Speaker 2: to Christoph which I think that just from a journalistic perspective,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting allegations. You're not getting names of the of
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  Speaker 2: the victims. Okay, sometimes you have to do that, but
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  Speaker 2: you're not getting the dates and the times and the circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: You're not getting a serious response from the IDF for
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  Speaker 2: somebody to sort of explain it. So basic stuff that
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  Speaker 2: you would expect in any good, serious investigation. This journalistic
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  Speaker 2: investigation was lacking from it, let alone, the implausible claim
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  Speaker 2: about dogs and give up just horrible.
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  Speaker 1: It is horrible. Eli is going to be with me
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  Speaker 1: during the break when we talk about Barack Obama and
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  Speaker 1: the JGTOA on the other side Beijing, So don't go anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: stay tuned to the UA hip Welcome Back America. Former
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  Speaker 1: President of Barack Obama feels so threatened by the way
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  Speaker 1: things have gone with his JGPOA Long Dad, that he
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  Speaker 1: went on with lame Duck Late Night failed comedian Stephen
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  Speaker 1: Colbert and said this cut number one.
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  Speaker 3: We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got
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  Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium up. They were
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  Speaker 3: able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program.
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  Speaker 4: For energy, and so you think it was working.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 3: Not only did I think it was working, even Israeli
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  Speaker 3: intelligence and thought it was working. Even our intelligence services
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  Speaker 3: thought it was working. So there's no dispute that it
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  Speaker 3: worked and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a
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  Speaker 3: whole bunch of people or shut down the straight of hormones.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So there's the defense eli your response, it's
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  Speaker 1: deeply dishonest accounting of what the JCPIA was.
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  Speaker 2: The JCPIA was working because the Iranians had a glide
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  Speaker 2: path to eventually produce as much low enriched uranium as
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  Speaker 2: they pleased, and they got to keep what was an illicit,
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  Speaker 2: industrial sized nuclear program. Not only did they get to
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  Speaker 2: keep that program, they got to produce centrifuges, and they
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  Speaker 2: got designs for much more efficient centrifuges. So what they
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  Speaker 2: were able to do was, in exchange for a promise
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  Speaker 2: that they would not use their new lay program for
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  Speaker 2: fuel that is suitable for a weapon, they get to
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  Speaker 2: keep the ability to make that fuel. That is a
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  Speaker 2: deal that the United States would not have signed with
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  Speaker 2: any other country. What was known as the gold standard
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  Speaker 2: was or these water called one two three agreements with
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  Speaker 2: countries like the United Arab Emirates, was that we or
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  Speaker 2: some you do not get to process and enrich your
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  Speaker 2: own uranium. We will give you that the nuclear fuels
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  Speaker 2: suitable for reactors, but you do not get to have
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  Speaker 2: that capability in your own country because you can turn
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  Speaker 2: that on very easily once you've mastered the fuel cycle
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  Speaker 2: into being able to make fuel suitable for a bomb.
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  Speaker 2: That was always the sort of deep flaw in the JCPA,
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  Speaker 2: in addition to having so many of its limitations expire
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  Speaker 2: over time. They would be expiring right around now now.
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  Speaker 1: I may I mentioned there were no restrictions on missiles
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  Speaker 1: and their length. There were absolutely the ability they could travel.
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  Speaker 1: There was absolutely know anytime anywhere inspection. Large military bases
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  Speaker 1: were absolutely forbidden from people going to inspect them, and
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  Speaker 1: of course by twenty thirty two they could do whatever
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  Speaker 1: they wanted. Why did he pick Colbert? I think he
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  Speaker 1: did because Colbert doesn't know anything. Is that it?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's also yeah, Colbert is also on site.
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  Speaker 2: He's as much of a political figure as a figure
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  Speaker 2: of comedy. In fact, I don't think he's really in
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  Speaker 2: the comedy lane anymore, and hasn't been for some time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, you know, he's a sort of
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  Speaker 2: an influencer for the Democratic Party on network television.
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  Speaker 1: Is how I last question during it there's no rehabbing
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  Speaker 1: the JCPOA the room about it in the ugly Obama library.
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  Speaker 1: That disaster we have thirty Will there be any way
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  Speaker 1: to make it not a disaster?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, I mean, And also to compare whatever deal
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  Speaker 2: if Trump does get a deal with this rougine, which
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he will, to the ju it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sense because Trump has destroyed the nuclear program,
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  Speaker 2: which the JCPU a legitimized.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the We'll be right back with Beijing, and
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  Speaker 1: Eli like stand by.
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  Speaker 5: We hold this truth to please self evidence. We got
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  Speaker 5: the raditudes our own president.
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  Speaker 1: You hold your stuns to stop the king need and
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  Speaker 1: your text out get back, Welcome back America.
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  Speaker 2: Enough.
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  Speaker 1: What you're listening to is not Hamilton. It's Eli Lake
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  Speaker 1: about to become Lynn Manuel Miranda. Because he uses AI
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  Speaker 1: to create music and this was very good. He sent
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  Speaker 1: this to me last night.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much like good. I mean, I got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the lyrics by playing around with the
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  Speaker 2: actual declaration itself. And I've been thinking a lot about
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  Speaker 2: the declaration recently, and you know, it's incredible what AI
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  Speaker 2: can do. I mean, there's obviously a downside to it,
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  Speaker 2: but I love it and uh, it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: great outlet for me. I write a lot of I
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  Speaker 2: like writing the lyrics. I have some musical capabilities, but
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  Speaker 2: nothing like what the computers can now do.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Eli, I was I was talking with a friend
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  Speaker 1: of my daughter and I have a theater kid, grandkid,
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  Speaker 1: and I have told my theater kid, grandkid, it's a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful hobby. Don't plan on making a livelihood. And it said, Bobby,
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  Speaker 1: you've crushed my dream and I said no really, And
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  Speaker 1: the third party says, you know, creatives are the only
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  Speaker 1: ones who won't be replaced by AI, and I said, no.
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  Speaker 1: You talked to Elia. How much are you doing of this? Elia?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I write, I write the lyrics, and if you
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  Speaker 2: ask the machine to write it, they're not as good.
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  Speaker 2: And I've done this actually with other AI programs like Rock,
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  Speaker 2: where I've just said, can you write a column in
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  Speaker 2: Eli Lake style, and I started doing this like a
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  Speaker 2: year ago. They're getting better, but it's not. It doesn't compare.
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  Speaker 2: You should try it here. That's pretty easy to do
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  Speaker 2: because I'll spit it out in like five seconds. It
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  Speaker 2: can't it can't do that. It can't write like a
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  Speaker 2: good column. It can't write a feature. Yeah, but it's learning.
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  Speaker 2: And what it can certainly do is if I ask
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  Speaker 2: one of the five best books on a particular as
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  Speaker 2: I start my research for a particular breaking history episode,
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  Speaker 2: it usually gives me five. And they really are the
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  Speaker 2: best books I've found. I mean, I don't ask the
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  Speaker 2: machine too. That's crazy because.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that. That's being a great book.
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  Speaker 1: I am reading Nick Lehman's new memoir, returning on the
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  Speaker 1: basis of the commentary recommends it's fabulous, which raised in
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  Speaker 1: my head. He runs in the same circles as Christoff.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a Jew and you're working with Nick Christoph,
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  Speaker 1: what do you do on a theoretical base, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: advising you to advise Brett Stevens to quit, but what
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  Speaker 1: do you do about that? Just ignore it? Well?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think you, I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why I don't quite know what to do, because to me,
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  Speaker 2: the malice of that peace was the sort of mission
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  Speaker 2: statement that the Israelis were raped on October seventh, and
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  Speaker 2: every day Palestinians are raped, and so I guess it
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  Speaker 2: all evens out. And and to me it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: would I be surprised if there were some horrible things
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  Speaker 2: that happened in some of those prisons, given you know
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  Speaker 2: the numbers and everything, No, I wouldn't. In fact, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there are terrible things, and there should be a
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  Speaker 2: process that is not interfered with by political side. And
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  Speaker 2: Israel has been through this before every country. We've been
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  Speaker 2: through it with Abu Grave most recently, but certainly in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Vietnam we had a kind of process and that's what
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: happens in war. And that's but but this you have
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to understand, and it's it's ironic that Christop's column comes
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: out the same day that Israel that the Civil Commission
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: releases what is the most comprehensive report on what happened
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on October seventh. What you find is that you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: they were given instructions on how to say in Hebrew
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to take off your pants and take off your underpants
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: things like that, which is that this was a deliberate plan.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: It was literally using rape as a weapon of war,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and the people who did it are still celebrated, not
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: just by Palestinians but increasingly. And this is what kind
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of gives me chills. You find members of the left
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: right now in the West, in America and Canada and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Europe that think that Hamas are the good guys.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the thirty months since ten seven is a sort
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of rolling drafish affair. I suggested to you. I hope
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Breaking History explained what that was. It was the uncorking
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: of anti tematism in Europe in the little late nineteenth century.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Now, and you've been great this week on the Dreypest stuff.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just I've been listening to every I mean,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: this week has been really terrific.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Well, it's because it's horrific. It's terrific. If it's terrific,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it's because it's terrific. Let's finish in Beijing in the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: era of and Brezhnev, that was after Stalin, you could
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: move towards Reagan and Garbageev and eventually to the fall
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of the Wall. G is not any of those guys
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: he's maybe Ondropov, but he's really Stalin. Does it make
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: sense to meet with him four times in a year.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. Well, let's see what we can get out
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you talk to people who
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: tried to look at what a war with China would
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: look like, it's something that I think we should try
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to avoid if we can. If there is a way
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to reach the sort of accommodation, what I find interesting,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and I'm working on this, but when I've talked to
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Pentagon people, what they tell me is that China did
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the bare minimum to support Irad in this war. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: so if Trump can use diplomacy in this way, even
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: though I agree with you that g is, you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he's a tyrant, he's Stalin. But if he's Stalin, right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But if you can kind of get.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: G to.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe put some constructive pressure on Iran, if you can
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: get g Uh, you know, to play more fair in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: terms of its exports and and currency manipulation. In my view,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: if you can get something out of it, then I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: don't think the diplomacy necessarily hurts. The problem is is
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: if if Trump is enticed into a kind of deal
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: where we don't give Taiwan all of the military it
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: needs to defend itself. That's in the event sitting.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Down with the President tonight, I'm going to watch it
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: all before being on a special report. I'm going to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: be leaning in what did you say about Taiwan? Because
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the ultimate deal is you help us everywhere you get
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the South China Sea, and we'll we'll close our eyes
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: on Taiwan. That's a disaster. That's a disaster. Caning around
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that we can.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: But the reason why, in some ways Iran is important
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: for that equation is that if we might I mean,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the calculations from China might be I don't know if
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: it's worth the candle. Everybody just assumes that the Iranians
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: are going to come out better. I don't think that's
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: true at all. I think that maybe the Chinese didn't
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: help as much because they looked around and they said,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: this is a regime that's wobbling. I'm not sure they're
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: going to survive six months after this war. I mean,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's important too. So if you can manage to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: get something better in Iran, then that puts that that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: means you need China less and it gives us more leverage.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I think to focus on Taiwan. I would be surprised
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: if Trump would have given up entirely on Taiwan at
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this point, but I think it is something to worry about.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: In terms of cultural exchanges. Importing ev I want none
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of it. They're a surveillance state. I joke with people
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and longshots at that yesterday, and we have a minute
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and so everything he here is being watched by the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Chicoms because Mike Gallagher is there and it is that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they are everywhere. Do you think the American people understand
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that Eli thirty seconds to the end of the No.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: They don't. And I've been writing about this now for
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: nearly twenty years. It goes back to Huawei. I mean,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: we had Huawei circuits and chips in military stuff fifteen
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: years ago. Our government is finally waking up to this
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but I think the American people still
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: don't quite realize what's going on there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So it's important to get that message out teeth Kruck
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and the clean Technology initiative of Trump one. I hope
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: what's going on now Eli Lake can be followed at
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Eli Lake. Your name came up at Hudson yesterday asked
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: me for the young journalists who I think are important here.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: One of them, as is Aaron McLain. Thank you, Eli
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: for doing two segments today, and thank you for this
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: wonderful song. Okay tuned in America, Matt continent. He has
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: met working back America Matthew Kuhn, and he joins me
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Now. Matt is the free expression,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the vertical calumnist for the Wall Street Journal. He's also
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the head of domestic policy at American Enterprise Institute. Take
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a moment to find the Wall Street Journal column today
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on AOC because he makes the central point. In fact,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: let's begin there, Matt. I love the fact you finally
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: put on the table. She's got a lot of sparkle.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: She's got gifts. One of those is not knowledge of America.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It's founding principles or what it's all about. She's not
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: very well read. I don't want to say she's stupid,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but she is ignorant of America. Is that a good
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: summary of your column?
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: I think so, Hugh.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: I think my column goes out to show that Alexandria
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Okazio Cortez is both an economic and a historical illiterate.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: You know, she doesn't give many interviews, and I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: we learned why in the past few days.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: In the first the interview, she said.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: That, you know, no one can earn a billion dollars,
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: stating that essentially all billionaires somehow are thieves, that they
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: earned they won their fortune through ill godden gains. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: then in a subsequent interview to defend her the economic obliviousness,
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: and by the way, she's an economics double major, she
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: said that the American Revolution was fought against billionaires. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: this to me is in some ways even worse than
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: her economic sins, because she is a United States congresswoman
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: who clearly has no grasp of why the American Revolution
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: was fought. It was not fought because King George the
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: Third had a piet tear in Manhattan. It was fought
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: because the King in Parliament had denied the colonists for
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: decades their natural and civil rights as Englishmen. And to
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: not grasp that, I think, is to lose the plot
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: about America itself. And I'm disturbed that this new Democratic
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: Socialist Party is beginning to recast the American Revolution as
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: just a kind of another peasants revolt. Another kind of
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: exercise in the rule of the mob, like we saw
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: in the French Revolution or the Russian Revolution, or the
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: Chinese Civil war and revolution. That's not a path America
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: wants to go down.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: AOC had she recast her marks as the original billionaires
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: for the Nabobs who bought back the wealth of India
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to the United Kingdom and exploited it, including the colonization
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of America, it would have at least had a patina
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: of intellectual rigor. But she'd not well learned. Now, Matt,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: they do have these honorary degrees that they give out
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: at commencement time. You think BU is tempted to take
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: hers back.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Well, she's a graduate of BU double major.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Like I said, economics and international relations, another field where
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: she has no expertise. Remember the last face plant AOC
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: had was when she went to the Munich Security Conference
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: earlier this year and she was asked a fairly simple
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: question on foreign policy and she gave a word salad
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: that you would put Kamala Harris to shame. So I
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: think that there's a level of ignorance.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Here, Hugh.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: And it's not just aoc I, unfortunately, it's large swaths
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: of our society. They don't understand not just economics, the
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: laws of supply and demand, savings and investment, why inflation
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: is bad, government spending diverting resources from the private economy.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: But they don't understand why America was founded.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: What we're about. We're about the natural rights.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Of individuals created equal before God, and we've been playing
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: out this experiment in self government for two hundred and
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: fifty years.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Come July fourth.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: That's what we need to understand, because once you get that,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: you kind of realize the value of limited government, of
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: personal freedoms, of property rights, all the things that AOC
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: and her squad want to attack and destroy.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I matt on to Iran. The President will be back
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: on you soil soon. I would like combat operations to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: commends immediately there afterwards where they Iran and the seagefire
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that isn't a seagefire that was paused for the summit,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: because we've got to bring this regime to its knees,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: if not down, what do you think.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Something needs to give you?
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: And I think that this cannot go on much further
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: one for Iran because the pressure is real and the
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: economic devastation there is for sure. But also for President Trump,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: because we can't let ourselves get into a corner where
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: Iran is effectively calling the shots in the Strait of Hormones.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: So I think what President Trump needs to do is
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: restart Project Freedom. He needs to open a the Strait
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: of Hormuz. And in order to do that, it means
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: rezooming military operations for some period of time so that
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: we can take out those drone and missile teams along
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: the coasts. We can take out all the harbors and
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: ports where the Mosquito fleet of ships that harass the
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: tankers come to port, drop that anchor. So there's needs
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: to be a resumption of the military campaign for some
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: time and to kind of lay the ground or the
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: sea for the resumption of Project Freedom and opening up
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: that straight.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: All of the above in my view. Matt will be
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: with me during the break. It'll be on the One
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod, and then they'll be back after the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: break to talk about China. Don't go anywhere America. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: who do it? I'm back with Matt CONTINENTI Matt. Over
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the last two days, President former President Obama sat down
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: with lame duck failed Late Night Committee and Stephen Colbert interviewed,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: as you know, kind of paint a rosy picture about
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the JCPOA. Here's what the former president said to Stephen Colbert.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium out. They were
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: For energy, and so you think it was working.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Not only did I think it was working, even Israeli
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: intelligence thought it was working. Even our intelligence services thought
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: it was working. So there's no dispute that it worked
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a whole
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: bunch of people or shut down the straight of horm Moose.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So, Matt Connetty, it's obviously a lie because there is
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it is speed about whether it worked, but it didn't work.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Can you explain to the audience why it didn't work?
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: Why was the JCPOA, the Obama nuclear deal such a travesty?
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Whereas President Trump calls it the worst deal ever. Obama
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: talked about what the Iranians said they were doing, that
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: is lowering the enrichment standards. What he didn't say is
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: what Obama gave the Iranians billions and billions of dollars,
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: including pallets of cash, which the Iranians then turned around
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: to spread chaos throughout the region, to foment terror. So
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: the JCPOA didn't address the missiles, which is one of
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: the reasons we had Operation Epic Fury, and didn't address
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: the proxies. And moreover, it was sunseted, as you know, Hugh,
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: which that at the end of the period of the JCPOA,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: Iran would have been free to do anything it wanted.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: And because as Obama pointed out, it still maintained the
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: nuclear infrastructure to take off the second that the JCPOA
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: was sunseted, so it was left. Iran was left richer,
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: It maintained its nuclear infrastructure, and it was allowed to
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: build up its conventional weaponry to to protect that nuclear
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: program and to so chaos throughout the region. Obama is
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: completely wrong. And I think it's very interesting here. Why
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: is Obama resurfacing these days? He's everywhere. He's withs Or
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: on Mamdani, he's with James Tallerico in Texas, he's getting
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: ready to open up his ugly library, and in Chicago
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: he's given interviews to The New Yorker, and now this
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: interview to Stephen Colbert. Why because he understands that when
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: this war is won, when Iran is militarily decimated, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: eventually when that regime falls and the Strait of Hormuz
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: is open, Obama's legacy will be gone, zeroed out. And
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: so that's what he's trying to do and what his
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: aids are trying to do now. They are trying to
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: keep his legacy alive, but it is dying.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting. It will be the first
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: legacy to be completely erased and failed by the time
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the library opens. Obamacare is a disaster of the JCPO.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And you didn't even mention inspection a joke. It was
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like the Clusseau inspection regime. They could declare entire military
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: bases off limit, they could go anywhere at any time.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Never it was a joke. He's a joke. The library's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a joke. These interviews are a joke. I'm coming back
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: with the non joke. Matt Continetti, Stay tuned, Welcome back
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: in America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Matt Continetti, Wall Street Journal
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: columnist and head of domestic policy Studies at the American
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Enterprise Institute is still with me. Matt apropos of our
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: earlier conversation about AOC not knowing anything. Ap story this
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: morning quote. Kids in Lower Merion School District in Pennsylvania
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: get iPads starting in kindergarten, switch to chromebooks in second grade,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: get their own MacBooks in eighth grade. One hundred of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: parents sign a petition asking to preserve their ability to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: opt their children out of using digital devices during the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: school day. The school district pushed back, saying it's not
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: feasible to let hundreds of students opt out of technology
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that is essential to the quick. My theory, the reason
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: American kids are ignorant is that they do not know
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: how to read books and they don't have the discipline
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to finish arguments. What do you think you've got, Smalls, Well.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: It's a great theory.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: This decline, it seems, began right before the pandemic, around
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, and then of course the school
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: lockdowns enclosures accelerated this learning loss to a very detrimental
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: effect for American society for generations.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Now, what I would.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Point out, exactly as you say, around twenty fourteen fifteen,
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: is when a lot of this what's called ed tech,
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: that the tablets, the reliance on YouTube videos, the phones
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: being allowed in the classroom beginning around that time, that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: when it was becoming introduced. At the same time, you
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: had a nationwide, especially in the Blue States, retreat from
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: testing and accountability. All of the reforms that were part
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: of the push in George W. Bush and Barack Obama's
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: presidency that the education departed. Obama is one of the
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: one things that worked to kind of make sure that
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: schools were performing and to measure how students were doing.
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: All of those reforms began to fade away in the
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: second half of Obama's presidency. And this, of course is
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: the states at work too, the Blue States in particular.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: And so we're left right now, Hugh is in this
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: very upsetting situation. On the one hand, we are having
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: these parent driven movements to get the phones out of
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: the schools. That's very important to lock those phones away
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: at least during school hours. But the next battlefield is
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: going to have to be this ed tech, these tablets,
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: these you know, we know that there are school systems
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: in Virginia where the teacher just puts on a YouTube video. Yep,
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: they think that's what they think that's education. That's not education,
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: and it's hurting our children. On the other hand, though,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: especially in red states, we have a return to basic
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: phonics in order to encourage red and reading.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: This is the Mississippi Miracle.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: We have charter schools, we have this new tax credit
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: program as part of the Working Family's tax Credit to
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: encourage school choice. So there are real opportunities here, but
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: it's only the conservatives who are talking about them. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: we've lost the sense where democrats and of course the
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: teachers unions feel as though they need to be invested
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: in accountability and testing to get our children back to
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: where they're learning as opposed to right now. It seems
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: almost as a national amnesia is in the midst of
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: taking place.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Notice that the people that push back in the AP
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: story I read the school district No. One in particular,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that represents some costs of bureaucracy, spending a lot of
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: money and developing a lot of curriculum and a lot
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of hours and a lot of workloads based upon technology.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: They don't want to change. They like it. That's the problem.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I want to switch back to Christoff. I talked to
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you earlier this week, but I've been thinking about very
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: little NonStop, because I actually know the guy from the radio,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm so astonished I've come up with this theory
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: anti Zionism, anti Israel. That's an intellectual choice that people make,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and then it bleeds into your heart or it becomes
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and metastasizes into anti Semitism. Anti Semitism is a disease
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of the heart Soulzannietschman said, where good and he will reside,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and it metastasizes to the brain, where it's disguised into
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: anti Zionism or anti Israel. I think Christop has it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: from the brain to the heart, but he's got it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: What do you make of my theory that he just
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: kind of red himself into the anti Semitic movement accidentally
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: because he wanted to be anti Israel.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that's a key part of it.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: In the New York Times, you're almost reflexively anti Israel.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: And if you write about Israel and you say something
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: bad about Israel, there will be no scrutiny to what
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: you claim. And we know that for a fact. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: think there's also a measure of sheer laziness on the
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: part of Chris stuff. We know that in the past
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: he's fallen for frauds and articles have been apologized for
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: or even retracted. In the case of this Cambodian anti
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: prostitution activist, he kind of fell for earlier in this century.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: And we see here from the people with researched the article, Hugh,
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: as you know, is that it seems that a lot
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: of these unverified, anonymous sources making these scurrilous and ridiculous
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: claims can be traced back to an NGO non governmental
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: organization which is known to be a Hamas front. And
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: so if you're a columnist who has an incentive to
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: write negatively about Israel because you know it's going to
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: please your subscriber base, you know what's your editors are
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: going to love it. Long comes its NGO and says, hey,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: wait until you check out this information or not check it,
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: but look away, we have for you. We can tee
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: up your column or your essay right away. Well, you
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: might be inclined to do that and have no heed
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: of what the consequences might be in the real world
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: for the people who will take these slanders and use
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: them as justification for violence against Jews around the world.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: You just gave berta thought. NGO is a term that
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: almost adds dignity to beggars. NGOs are beggars. NGOs are
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: non productivity measured organization where losers and people who can't
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: make a living go NGOs. Do we add to their
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: dignity by referring to them as NGOs in some way
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: associating them with government by saying they're non government organizations,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but they're likely government. They're just beggars.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: It's kind of I'm hesitating because there's a chance that
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: American enterprises considered an NGO.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I don't want. It's not saying all NGOs here. It's
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: a very capacious term, as we know.
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: But in specifically, what we're talking about are these NGOs
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: that are part of this self designated human rights community.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: They don't stand for human rights. They stand to delegitimize, demonize,
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: and apply double standards to the state of Israel as
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: part of a global movement to end the Jewish state,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: the only state where the Jewish people have a home.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Out of all the hundreds of countries.
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: In the world, Why is it that there is a
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: global movement to destroy one of them? And that, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: think is the question that's being asked. But you won't
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: find that question being asked in the New York Times.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Dehumanized, delegitimize, imposed a double standard. That was some very
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: rapid work with the alliteration. Matt Continetti and my hat
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: is tipped to you. Have a great weekend. Thank you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: again for joining me. Follow Matt at the Wall Street Journal,
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• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'm Hewett. For regular listeners to this program, you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: for the big weekend pod. I's been most of Friday
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: talking the same people. On last Friday we went out
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: with a rim shot when Ben Dominicic landed a low
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: blow with a James Harden smear. I never forget, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: never forget. And they were zero and two when he
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: hit me.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: Below the bell. You did you not hear the last
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: thing that I said? I said that they'd take I
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: said that they'd steal some at home and look at now, look.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: At at three and two going into seven o'clock tonight.
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: But I want to say, you are a conspiracy theorist.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: And one thing only Ben Dominic the NBA. So they
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: had the lottery this week.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And who won the NBA lottery but Ben Dominic's team,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards. So was that fixed?
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: I think it was. I actually think it was, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: I think that I think that. One of the things
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: to notice, of course, about this is that everyone in
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Utah wants wants Aja to stay there. And for listeners
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: who don't know, uh, you know, I want the top
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: There's basically two clear top players in basketball to be
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: drafted this year, and Utah got the second pick. So
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: what do you have now? You have drama? Should they
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: trade the pick to Utah? Should they swap and do
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: like you gin up and you get attention for it?
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: Adam Silver doing what he does?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: You know, who do you want the Wizards to take?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You've got everybody on injured reserve for like three months
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: taking a vacation on the message table.
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: Anthony Davis is probably never going to see the court anyway.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: But yes, I hey, when Harden wants to play in
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: the playoffs, he's a good player. When he doesn't want
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: to play. You notice, Well.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just kiddous. Who do you want the Wizards to say?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: If you're actually a Wizards fan. Fred Barnes was forever right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I and Morton would go together. Who's who do you want?
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: I will just say the number of times that they
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: played against each other. You know, I actually I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Peterson is actually the better pick. But I also think
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: that given the fact that this is a franchise that
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: you can't trust because they've never I mean, you need
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: to keep in mind since since the three point shot
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: was invented, Okay, these Wizards have not won fifty games,
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: So that that is the way to think about this franchise.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: It is a loser franchise. It is very bad. They
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: won championship, and they won the championship, and then the
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: next year they had the three point line and then
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: they just dropped like a rock. And it's look, I
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: was there during the Jordan latter years, and I was
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: there and I've been there. I was there during the
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: Laboula years of of that, and and of course I
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: was very disappointed with the way that the Gilbert Arenas
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: situation turned out. And John Wall was there to make
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: a pick, so he was there a good luck charm.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But well, I'm telling you, as a Browns fan, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: feel you're pain to be cursed with a terrible franchise
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: is a bad thing. Let's get to the news. President
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: will touchdown in DC as soon as he does. I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: want combat operation to begin again against Ron because of
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the ceasefire isn't a ceasefire. And now we have Evan's,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: courtesy of Ambassador Walt's, a massive environmental degradation as they're
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: spilling oil into the strait of hormones because they haven't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: got any place to put it. They're already at max
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: capacity eighty thousand barrels of washed up on carg Island.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: What do you think is going to happen? What ought
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to happen?
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: I think that what you I think that what you
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: laid out there is exactly what ought to happen. I
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: don't know if the President is going to want to
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: get back and pull the trigger as quickly as that,
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: but I mean, you know, you heard his attitude talking
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: about the last deal he reject did after the first sentence,
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: uh and you know he didn't say what the sentence was,
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: but he said there was, you know, just unacceptable on
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: its face, and I think that his patience has completely
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: run out for this type of situation that is, as
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: you say, a non cease fire, seasefire. He's not going
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: to stand for that, and it's not something that he
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: would rather be, you know, pursuing. I think this in
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: ways that send the message this is going to get
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: over quickly, and if it doesn't, we're going to hit
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: you hard and we're going to hit you again. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: looks as much as the depictions that you see or
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: that you read in the New York Times, you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: frame this as being a situation where the Iranians are
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: coming off better when it comes to, you know, their
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: whole military situation. The presentations that we've seen put forward
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: by our War Department officials have been I mean, it's
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: devastating what they've actually done to their military capabilities. And
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: I think that that's something the President can hold his
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: head high about. But he's not going to He's not
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: going to keep having this situation where it's it's just
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: a tug of war back and forth, and where they
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: don't they don't seem to be negotiating in any time
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: of good says.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So there are levels of force and I think there's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: maximum level of force, which is ground troops. The eighty
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: second Airborne is over there. I listened today to Aaron
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: McClain and Mark dublo it's twice on the new Iran breakdown.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Twice because they are smart guys, and Aaron McClain's marine
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and Mark duvids it does nothing but Iran. There are
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: lots of military options, but the eighty second Airborne is
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: part of one hundred and eighteenth Air Corps. They know
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: how to do this. They're not a shutdown entire airspaces
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and do we turn them loose and just say do
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: what you got to do to end this regime's military power.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: I think that the problem that you're going to run
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: into there, of course, is the president's level of tolerance
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: for loss of American life. He cited to Brett Behar
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: in the interview that's going to run this evening. You
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: know the fact that you know from his perspective, he's
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: lost thirteen Americans in two wars. That's you know, a
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: number clearly that is front of mind for him. The
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: fact that he is thinking about this in those terms
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: is something that is going to give him pause. And
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: the unfortunate reality though, Hugh is that that's probably what
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: it's going to take to devastate this regime to the
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: point that most people think it needs to be, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: that was always going to be a problem. The geography,
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: the terrain is a problem. Everything that you know is
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: challenging about Iran has been something that they have used
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: to great effect to protect this regime for so long, though,
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: and at some point you have to decide what are
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: we going to finish this thing or not. Rick Scott
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: wrote a piece for us at The Daily Wire this
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: week saying, you know that there was nothing acceptable other
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: than victory here, and that that means, you know, not
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: accepting some end of the war that people domestically are
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: arguing for because of concerns about the midterms or something
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: of that nature. That you've got to take it all
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: the way. And I think that that's an indication that
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: the present and we'll get support if he makes that choice.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: All Right, you brought up the Daily Wire, and I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: didn't introduce you as the opinion editor at the Daily
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Wire as well as the Fox News contributor and host
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: of the Big Ben podcast. So now that I have,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: let me bring up the fact the New Yorker maggot,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: not the New Yorker. What do we call that? New
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: York mag decided to go after Ben Shapiro and it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: been unbound. John Chape is one of the weirdest guys
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: in the business. I mean, it is weird and it's
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: a weird magazine. What I got against Ben Shapiro and
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: The Daily Wire and why does anyone believe their lies?
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not just them, Hugh. I would say that
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: this is a pretty coordinated series of attacks. I mean
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: it's you know, the Washington Post ran a piece. You know,
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: they've been There have been multiple podcasters who've gone after it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: who've suggested that there's something I would recommend to everyone
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: the opening of Ben Shapiro Show today, which is entitled
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: all the Haters Can Kiss My Ass. I hope that
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: doesn't get you a violation.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I've known Ben for twenty years. Good for Ben, so
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: but but the.
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: Truth is this. The Daily Wire is an institution. I've
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: only been there for two and a half months. It
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: has a huge staff, it has enormous you know projects
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: that they do, Uh, they do things that nobody else
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: is doing. And what is really happening here is that
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: a bunch of bitter podcasters who are anti what the
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: Daily Wire and Ben and everybody else who's built that
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: place represent, which is a traditional lane of conservatism, who
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: want to see it instead ripped down, torn down to
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: the to the the every bolt, you know, everything down
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: to the foundation, and then break that foundation open in
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: order to rebuild a crank filled right wing that is
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: bad on Israel, is bad on our on foreign policy,
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: is bad on national security, is bad on Jews generally,
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: and that is fueled by a number of people, including
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: you know, the fact that the fact that you are
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: turning to Tucker and Candae and Nick Flint is as
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: your sources on the fact that the Daily Wire is
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: going down, that should tell you everything about what's going
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: on here, Hugh. It is that they are they are
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: giving you know, quotes to these places saying you know, oh,
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: you know, my opponent is going down, and it's simply
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: not true at all. And it's one of these things
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: where I frankly think the fact that you can have
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: people who have tiny little staffs, who you know, podcasts
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: trump their basement live streams and things like that go
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: out and say, you know, I've beaten this institution, I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: taking over the new Right, et cetera. Is something that
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: is a very convenient narrative if you are someone in
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: the legacy media.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: On the left, to be a displacement engine like the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Daily Wire. There are the free pressures displacing the New
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: York Times, it's taking on CBS, it's actually absorbing CBS.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: But the Daily Wire displacing a lot of conservative media,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: not all of it not normal concern to media, but
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it's displacing a lot of the eyeball because you can't
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: read two things at once, and if you're reading the
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Daily Wire, you're not reading something else. And if you're
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: a conservative, the Daily Wire threatens to kill a bunch
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: of people who make their living. And that the problem.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: It's killing people off from their their disintermediated from their money.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: I think it's also the fact that you have people
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: who very much are Yes, there's an aspect of this
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: that's jealousy of success, but I think there are people
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: who very much want to see their horseshoe theory come
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: to fruition where you've got Graham Platner and Nick Flint
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: days and that's somehow the right, and that's not.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Your dream I'm coming back with Ben during the break.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You'll be back on the other side. They'll go anywhere America.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I'm qq welcome back. I'm with Ben Dominich on the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod. Ben Barack Obama sat down with Lame
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Duck and failed Late Night quote comedian Stephen Colbert to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: defend his record. Everyone would immediately go to him, obviously,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: to defend your record on the JCPOA, here's how the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: exchange began.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: We pulled it off without firing a missile. We got
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: ninety seven percent of their enriched uranium up. They were
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: able to maintain a modest civilian nuclear program for energy.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: And so you think it was working.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Well, not only did I think it was working, even
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Israeli intelligence thought it was working. Even our intelligence services
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: thought it was working. So there's no dispute that it
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: worked and we didn't. We didn't have to kill a
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of people or shut down a straight or
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: hor mooz.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Now, some things are self evident, Ben, you and I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: are about to dispute that it works. So it's a
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: lie that no one is disputing that it works. In fact,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of smart people know it didn't work,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: it had massive holes in it. Why is he trying
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to do this and why is he picking Cobert about
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: whom no one cares to do it with.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Well, first off, I would just say that a president,
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: a former president doing this while America is at war, like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sorry, pick your moment, guy, Like if
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: you want to come back and make the case for
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: this in the future in a book, you know, and
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: something like that. But America is currently in a war
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: with Iran, and for him to go and sit down
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: with Colbert, who he knows. While while Colbert is a
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: smart person, he plays this idiotic character on TV, I
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: think on purpose. He plays completely dumb. Whenever he has
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: a democratic guest on he never says anything critical. You know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: he's completely abandoned any pretense of that. He used to
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: be smart enough, by the way to lampoon the right
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: in such a way that even the right could laugh,
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: and now he's just completely lost that. He's just a
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: total partisan hack. And it's really I mean, for someone
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: who actually liked Colbert when he was much when he
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: was younger, when he was doing I mean the Dana
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: Carvey Show.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed being on a show. I enjoyed being his guest.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Ye.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: But the thing is that the former president would sit
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: down and defend this when everyone who knows this story
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: knows that that is just not true. Is an indication
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: of his hubris. The fact that he thinks that he
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: is above being questioned. It's the same kind of attitude
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  Speaker 6: that he had when he rolled into Virginia and said
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  Speaker 6: that you know that our current setup was too racist
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: and that we needed to do this emergency Jerry Mander
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  Speaker 6: that then got thrown out by the courts. Some constitutional
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: scholar he is. And this is the thing that I
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: think is so maddening about him. He will never question himself.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: We've talked about George W. Bush before. I think he
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: questioned his decisions to this day that he made as
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: president because he's someone who looks inward. Barack Obama does
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: not have that capacity. He still views himself as I
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: am the one you were waiting for, and that is
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: that is still I think the way that he's going
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: to think about himself still the end.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Of the days, verging on tragic figure because, as Nema says,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: his ego Yeah.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: I say, I mean, if you could lampoon him, and
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: I do think that it is possible to lampoon him.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: That is exactly the type of character you would create.
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: It is just this utter, this complete, eat out, out
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  Speaker 6: of control ego that thinks that he essentially could never
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  Speaker 6: do anything wrong, and that everyone who is his critic
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: has some moral defect That is really at the heart
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  Speaker 6: of why they're criticizing him. But that's just the way
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  Speaker 6: I think that he thinks about himself.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I'm coming back with Ben Dominic. Stay tuned, WROG. I'm
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: back in America. I'm here here at Ben. My vulnerability
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: is I believe I can discern people's character and they're
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: whether or not they're right or wrong politically, they're good faith.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I have been proven wrong on Nick Kristock, and I'm
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: bothered by it. I had him on the show many
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: many times, and I thought, good guy, he's wrong about Someltics,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: but a path opens. He cares about the halt of poor,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the blind, the lame, and he's a good guy. Now
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: he's written this horrible piece, and so I've been thinking
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: about it NonStop since he wrote this piece, and I
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: decided there there's a there's everyone has a brain in
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the heart. Anti Semitism begins in the heart. It's evil,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and it fantastasizes to the brain, which camouflages it, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: it comes out as anti Zionism, anti Israelism, and then
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: intellectually some people are become anti Zionist or anti Israel
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: for reasons unrelated to being Jewish. But it moves and
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it fantastasizes to the heart and you become anti Semitic.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: That's my theory that I think it with Christop it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: was the latter. He had to be anti Israel because
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: that's where the in crowd was, Tom Wolf, Maumowing and
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the flat catchers and ended up being anti Semitic. What
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: do you think happened to him?
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: I do not know him well enough to have I
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: think I've been on a panel with him once or
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: twice maybe, and don't know enough to analyze the reason
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: that he wrote what he did. I assume you have
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: related it to your listeners so that they have.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Something Yeah, okay, all right.
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: What has to be going on in your brain as
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: a writer in order to accept that story on its
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: face as having any merit whatsoever? Betrays a virulent strain
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: of anti Semitism running underneath it, That is in the
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: top one percent. I mean, we're talking it is it
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: is you have to be so antisemitic to believe something
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: like that, to take it as being true at all,
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: and certainly to run with this kind of unquestioning attitude
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: of well, you know, you know, certainly this is something
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: that could be possible. You know, you see things that
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: feel viral. Perhaps you don't, perhaps you don't you know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: see these things in your feeds, But you see things
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: that go viral that you know immediately are false if
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: you have a good radar for it, you know, and
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: I think that I do. You know, you spot stuff
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: and you say, Okay, that's fake, that's AI, that's fake,
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: this is going to be you know. And then what
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: you frequently see is people community and community noting it
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: into oblivion on X. But other people, I think they
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: just don't have that questioning attitude, and so they're told
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: a narrative that seems astounding on its face and they
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: and they run with it. And in this case, my
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: question is less about Nick Christoft, because you do have
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: a you know, a personal connection there you about it
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: and you and I can understand your feeling because I've
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: experienced stuff like that before in my life where you
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: you misjudge a person. You know, I'm sorry, I thought
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: you were a better person. That's on me. But here's
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: the thing, when when you look at that story, why
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: did no one at the New York Times have the
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: ability to just say, pump the brakes on this? Are
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: we sure this is something that's even possible? Have we
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: talked to any experts about these animals? Could they be
• 59:58
  Speaker 6: trained to do this? Even it is astounding to me?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: How do they keep it secret? No one participates in
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: the training of the dog. It's like Dr Evil. It's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous cartoon. So but I don't know if you've ever.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: Want Hermi anyone question this like today, you apparently not.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: It's opinion page. Do you remember Herman Woke?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: If you read the late Great Herman Woke's Winds of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: War and Warner Remembrance. His central character is Aaron Jastrow
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: professor who said about Santaiana, I could smell he was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: an anti Semite when he walked into the room. I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: have that gift. You know. I'm Irish Catholic, but I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: can smell and anti semit when they walk into the room.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Nick was not that he talked himself into it. I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: don't know how it happened.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: Something changed and you look, I will say there is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: there is some inherent appeal in going along with what
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: you see the cool kids doing, a quote unquote meaning
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: it is. This is something that has become a general
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: attitude dude on the left, to a much greater degree
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: than I think anybody has really understood. And this attitude
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: of you know, of colonization and of of you know,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: deep seated theft and everything else like that is so present,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: ever present, particularly among young leftists, that it's possible that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: that was the lure involved here. All I can say
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: is the New York Times has a much bigger problem
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: than I thought in terms of vetting these types of things.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: I've written for the New York Times opinion page, by
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: the way, and you have to go through chapter and verse.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: I grant you the talk, Yeah, but chapter and verse
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: on every single thing. You even have to send like
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: multiple references because they'll often not have read the things
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: that you're referring to. And so it's like, okay, let
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: me take a picture of this page of this book
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: and send it to this editory and that kind of thing,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: and so the fact that this didn't go through that process.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: It is astoundingly embarrassing. And instead the time it seems
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: to be sort of trying to just, you know, post
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: their way through it or something.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Oh now Christoff is trying to post his way through it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: He's just posting up. Well, I'm going to ignore it.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Not gonna work. He's self emilated. He's self emilated. He's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: like the Buddhist monk in Vietnam. He's done. Let me
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: finish with gee. Nixon will go back and forth with
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: brenh neb and then Reagan will meet with garbagechev But
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: she isn't those guys. She isn't even on drop up.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: She is stalin. Is there any point to this?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: So this turned out pretty much like I thought it would,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: where I just went into it thinking, I think a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: lot less is gonna happen here than people think will happen,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: that they had been kind of built up beyond what
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: was possible. I view this as being largely a waste
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: of time. I just don't think that there's going to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: be much that comes out of it. But I also
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: think that it was important for the president to go
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: over there and not make any significant sacrifices of American interest,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: and I think that that did succeed. I think that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: he did get out of there without sort of giving
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: up anything that we're going to be all that worried
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: about though. The details are still going to come forward
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: and we'll see what happens. But one thing that I
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: do want to note, and I we have a weekend
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: interview series. It's starting tomorrow at o'deely wire. I have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: Michael Soolikan I know you've had you've talked to him before,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: I believe, who is a China expert, to talk all
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: about the meeting, what came out about Taiwan, et cetera,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: et cetera. I hope people will check it out tomorrow morning.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: But the thing that is really I think important about
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: this is that you could have had a situation where
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: she offered or dangled the possibility of you could fly
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: back home with this person or that person and get
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: a victory from that in exchange for something dramatic that's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: way more important to she than holding on to a prisoner.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: End of the United States.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, And that is something that I think was
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: always a risky potential about this meeting and the president
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: if that was offered. I don't know if there was
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: didn't take it. So I look at this as being
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: something where the press built this up as being very important.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: It's going to be viewed as less important. Uh and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: in the larger scheme of things, is probably not going
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: to change.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: He made a play for Jimmy Lyi. He said on
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: A four. When he's not getting Jimmy lis getting the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Christian pastorate, probably it's up to Popo Leo. Now Pope
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Leo has to go get his Catholic And he asked
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: a way the Vatican has battalions that are unsane, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the Pope has to go get the Catholic man. That's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: what I think. You agree with that.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: I think you're right. I agree completely, and I think
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: that I think it's going to be something that is,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: you know, it's a test for a you know, new
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: pope relatively, But it's one of these situations where I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: just don't think there was going to be there was
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: too much that President Trump was going to have to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: give up in that situation, I think.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: And so so, the most prominent Catholic martyr in the world,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the most visible one, is Jimmy Lai. She is killing him,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and Leo has said nothing the So the President made
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: a push, but he can't give up the American national interests. Well,
• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:09
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