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CJP #60: Andrew Rice (CT-3) · Coconut Justice

• Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hey everybody, ⁓ Andrew's back. Hi Andrew. Andrew Rice CT-03: Hello Carlos, how's it going? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Doing well, how are you? Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ As I said earlier, minus the fascism, I'm doing alright. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So let's talk about fascism. But first, everyone, welcome back. ⁓ C4 explosives. I can't wait for you to finish reading all those books you got back there. Cefore X. Plosives: Man, you know what? This place gets bigger and bigger every time I'm here. It's wallpaper. I just line up my walls with books. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You are very well read young man. So, so you guys, Andrew Rice is back on the channel. He's running for office Connecticut three, the third district of Connecticut. So Andrew, tell us about the third district. What's that like out there? Hey, what's good? Andrew Rice has a background in cellular and molecular biology. He was born and raised and spent most of his life in Connecticut. And like many families in that area, Andrew has been priced out of the housing market. Mixed with the current administration's blatant attack on education and sciences. Andrew Rice CT-03: So it's primarily suburban. ⁓ have a lot of we have several major cities the biggest one being New Haven Then we have West Haven Milford Stratford Wallingford and Hamden are pretty big and then we have a little bit ⁓ We have a place called like the valley which has a bit more of a rural feel to it ⁓ We're along the 95 corridor and the I-91 corridor so it's a very ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Andrew Rice has decided that it was time for him to run for Connecticut's third congressional district. Cefore X. Plosives joins me in this conversation with Andrew Before we get into it, remember to go to coconutjustice.com to get you some clothes that I think would look good on you. Let's go. Andrew Rice CT-03: smack dab in the middle of all of Connecticut's traffic. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Is that is that your is that Connecticut's answer to the 405 in L.A.? Andrew Rice CT-03: I've never been to the 405 in LA, but I imagine it is something similar. So I've lived in this state my entire life. I've lived along the I-95 corridor my entire life, and I've never not seen an under construction. I'm just wondering at what point in my life will I actually see these highways ever finished, and I just don't know if I will ever see that. It's been 30 years. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ugh. That's like what they say about Chicago is Chicago has two seasons. Winter and construction. Andrew Rice CT-03: So in Connecticut, we just have construction. We fight through the snow. don't care. We just like to construct everything but somehow get nothing out of it. They redid the entire area. They hired all these big shot consultants to plan the highways. And after they did all the reconstruction, traffic was somehow worse. And I'm like, I wonder who... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ You guys fight through the snow? That worked. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, I was like that. was fantastic. That did absolutely nothing to address. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Maybe it was a whole bunch of people living not in Connecticut. They were waiting for the construction to be done so they can move back. And then they clogged up all the, all the highways and stuff. Andrew Rice CT-03: That's actually not bad point. I guess the other thing that I forgot was the whole COVID mess where everyone vacated New York City and decided to live along the I-95 corridor in Connecticut. So maybe it's really the New Yorkers' fault and COVID's fault. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. People wanting to move, people wanting yards and the ability to cough. Cefore X. Plosives: down here they like to build sh- Andrew Rice CT-03: Or just shitty government planning. Yards and coughing, those are two things I never realized I should be grateful for. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hahaha Cefore X. Plosives: raises your property tag, property value. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): The only, the only, huh? Cefore X. Plosives: that it raises your property value. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, that's true. The only point of reference that I have for Connecticut, honestly, is ⁓ when Ricky from I Love Lucy finally got I don't know whatever it was that he needed to make the move. But when he was finally successful, he decided to move to Connecticut. Andrew Rice CT-03: So Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Remember? Andrew Rice CT-03: That's a good selling point. Usually in Connecticut, our biggest selling points is that we are in between Boston and New York. That's how most people try to sell Connecticut is that you are, you don't have to be in either of those two major metropolitan areas, but you're close to both of them. Welcome to Connecticut. Cefore X. Plosives: you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. That's one thing I never it never ceases to amaze me is just how packed everything is there. Like you guys talk about going to New York like we talk about going to Sacramento and Sacramento is just a couple hours away. Andrew Rice CT-03: Well, so on the if you drive there and there's no traffic, it takes about 60 minutes to get to New York. If you take the train, somehow it takes two hours. That's how shitty our train systems are in Connecticut and something that needs to change, because in 2026, it should not take longer on a train to get somewhere than in a car. But then, of course, if you're in a car, there's usually the traffic. And that's what makes the train somewhat faster. ⁓ But Cefore X. Plosives: Cheers. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: I mean, I'm a big proponent of high speed rail and it's just very frustrating that you see places like Germany and China and Japan and literally like everywhere around the world have these, you know, bullet trains that go, you know, 200 miles an hour and our trains are still going 50 miles an hour. Like we live in the 1950s. I'm like, what is going on? Well, I know what's going on. We're not investing in these things because the car industry has a huge lobby and Cefore X. Plosives: Exactly. Andrew Rice CT-03: I I have a whole philosophy on why we need so many cars. I mean, not just because it's profitable, but the longer you keep people sitting in traffic, the less time they have for themselves, the more energy that's expended because sitting in traffic takes a lot of energy and willpower to not call every single person every single swear word I've ever heard. And so I just imagine, you know, if we had high speed rail and people, you know, could be Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: productive on the train or nap or you know have some some sense of free time. We don't want that because in this system we wanted to deprive people as much of their time and energy as possible. That way they can't come up with new ideas. That way they're too tired to organize. They're too tired to be in their community. And so I it's just a whole it's a whole mess and we need to we need to address this. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. to make change. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: It's crazy to think you're in a car and you think you're in control and you're not. They just have every inch of you just pinned down. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: And then some of these newer cars with all this technology, like if you have a Tesla, Elon Musk can hear or suppose like hear everything that's going inside that car and can shut it down at any time. like, yeah, I would love an electric vehicle. I can't afford one. But if I were to get one, I don't know if it would be a Tesla, because I'm like, I just do not trust that man with anything. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ hell no. especially after the high jinx he put us through with this whole doge thing. Andrew Rice CT-03: Okay, well Doge was always bullshit, but there were I think two reasons behind it one was so that he could get rid of all of the investigations into all of his shoddy practices and to one two ⁓ Making all those backdoors into our private data to feed to Palantir and so either of you familiar with Lord of the Rings So in Lord of the Rings there's that artifact Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: That's this crystal ball that the evil Lord Sauron uses to spy on all the people of Middle Earth. And it's pronounced Palentier in the movies. But it's spelt Palantir, just has like a weird Gaelic accent that gives it that ⁓ sound at the end. So it's like these techno dorks aren't even trying to hide the fact that they are trying to create an all-evil seeing eye to spy on all the people of America for the evil Lord Sauron. which is not Donald Trump, it is actually J.D. Vance. That is my prediction that once they have these AI mega centers in place and they have all of our data crunched and they know how to keep us under control, they'll let Donald Trump die and have J.D. Vance because Palantir, which was, I believe, the brainchild of Peter Thiel, he bankrolled all of J.D. Vance's Senate campaign like 2022. And then he personally lobbied Don Jr. to have J.D. Vance be the vice president. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: And so I'm just like, okay, I do not trust like one of the most evil men in the world with this. And so that is why I'm convinced that JD Vance is the end product. So when people are like, ⁓ I can't wait for Trump to die. I'm like, actually that might be the worst case scenario because at least Trump is limited by his own fragile ego versus someone like JD Vance who will just bend over and do whatever the techno dorks want him to do. Cefore X. Plosives: Uhhh... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: That's why the 25th Amendment scares me. they say, let's do it. And I'm like, for what? Like, you're just expediting a bigger problem. Andrew Rice CT-03: That's why we need to impeach Donald Trump, need to impeach J.D. Vance, need to impeach Mike Johnson. His whole cabinet needs to be impeached. ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): His whole cabinet, his whole cabinet, his whole cabinet, everyone is under investigation for something. And if not, then we know that they're crashing Grindr. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like Mike Johnson. Cefore X. Plosives: OOF Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Exactly. Andrew Rice CT-03: You know, I need to go to Louisiana and go on My Grinder and see if I can expose him and be like, hey, I'm like 99 % sure that that man, he might be gayer than I am, which is difficult, because I love. Certain anatomy. I'll try to keep a PG here, maybe PG-13. Cefore X. Plosives: You Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hey, since we're on that topic, let me ask you, have you always liked certain anatomies or was it something that they taught you to love? Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ ⁓ I mean, obviously I was taught to love that anatomy by the evil, you know, gay agenda that's trying to turn all the frogs gay and trans. You know, I'm the prime example of what happens ⁓ when, you know, you don't go to church every Sunday and pray the gay away. Cefore X. Plosives: Shit. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ I came out after college. think I, if I really, really think hard, I probably knew that I was gay from a very young age because I would always look at other kids my age and be like, ooh, there was a feeling there. I didn't know how to interpret that. And then later in life, I look back and I'm like, ⁓ yep, I was totally checking out boys my age. at the time and then when I grew up I was like oh that's what that is but it is funny when people you know nowadays when people are like oh you know if we let kids read gay books they're gonna turn out gay and blah blah blah blah I'm like that's funny because growing up all I ever saw was a man and a woman woman men and women kissing and fucking and doing all that I never really saw two men doing any of this and sure enough that didn't stop me from winding up liking the dick so Sorry. I'm sorry. love when people are like, ⁓ these. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, that's like similarly when I was a kid, I was forced to go to church and forced to read the Bible and forced to do all the things and I never grew up to be a pastor. Andrew Rice CT-03: Weird how these things work out. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Nothing, nothing but respect to pastors, nothing but respect for those folks that believe in all the things. I get it, I get it. However, when you're talking about scientific chemistry and my man is telling you, I've been exposed to what you guys consider normal or satisfactory or whatever, he never wanted to play in that. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Play that game. Andrew Rice CT-03: Oh, mean, so I mean, there are some gay men who are just so confident in their gayness and that for me, I really struggled for a while and, you know, did try and pursue women because that was what the expectation was. And I didn't want people to know because, you I also I started like coming to terms with it when George W. Bush was running around for reelection. Like, hey, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Sure. Andrew Rice CT-03: we need to make sure that gay people can't get married. And so, you when I saw that, was like, ⁓ maybe I need to, you know, not be gay. And ⁓ so like I struggled with it for a long time. To this day, I still kind of struggle every now and then. Because, you know, if I bake a cupcake or a cookie, or I, you know, decorate well, people are like, ⁓ of course you can't. But the minute I pick up a hammer and I build something or I fix a pipe or I install a toilet, people are like, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): you Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ I'm surprised you can do that. And I'm like, why? Because liking dick makes me incompetent to do anything else besides bake? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That was like me coming up. I had a very strict mom, very strict mom. And then I joined the military. And then when I got out, I'd be out and be chasing the girls and stuff. And then they'd come to my place and everything was clean and put away. And everyone thought that I was gay. I was like, I'm not gay, I'm just clean. ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: There's a difference. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, it's either the end. girls would admit to me that they would go in the bathroom and look around to see if there was any like feminine products or anything, because it was just clean. I was like, has nothing to do with a very strict mom and basic training. All right, cool. ⁓ Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: But it is, it is very weird. what is it? The heteronormative, whatever that, you, yeah, if you're a clean man, then suddenly you're gay. If you're a dirty man, you're straight. I mean, you should see my house right now. It's a mess. People, if you came into my house and looked at the mess, you would think that I'm straighter than, you know, ruler. But no, no, I just don't, I don't have time to clean up because I'm on the campaign trail or on Grindr, like our... ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: You're not gay. You Andrew Rice CT-03: Speaker of the house. ⁓ Cefore X. Plosives: on the hunt for Mike Johnson. Andrew Rice CT-03: Hahaha Cefore X. Plosives: Have you encountered any constituents that have had any issues with that? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Was it tough? Andrew Rice CT-03: constituents, no. I mean, I've gotten ⁓ random fa***t and whatnot on some comments and just like, like ⁓ don't. ⁓ as a, as a public figure or someone who aspires to be a public figure, people are angry and traumatized. And sometimes I, ⁓ just have to accept the fact that you are to be an outlet for someone to. ⁓ release that anger, frustration and trauma onto. And I've been through enough therapy to realize that you can't take it personally. They've never personally met me. They have been indoctrinated. They have been taught a certain way and maybe they've never, you know, truly heard another point of view without being accosted by someone. And so I do just try and remember that was it hurt people hurt people and so if you go out of your way to like hurt someone or you try and hurt me, not always easy, I don't always, know, sometimes I fail but I always try to remember that I'm just happy that I'm in a good enough place where I don't hurt that much to want to inflict that kind of hurt onto someone else. So it's a, try and make a positive out of everything. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. And that just reminds me of folks that would rather They would rather not have more only to take away from other people. You know what I mean? Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes, I saw my what was it a John Stewart had someone go around and like the south asking about Health care and they're like, ⁓ I don't if that means black people getting health care then I don't want health care. I'm like, what the fuck? That makes no sense Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): you Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Exactly. And if you don't see that that's a problem, like, that's ridiculous. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And the same thing for the gays and the same thing for the Browns and the same thing for the whoever they decide to. Now it's the Iranians. You know, it's always someone and folks just can't chill out. Let's work on the system that we're supposed to be living under. So then that way everything gets good for everybody. Stop being so goddamn cave person. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: So I think that everyone should see a therapist and smoke a joint and I think a lot of problems could be solved. If everyone just got high, ate some food, listened to some music and saw a therapist, I think we could move beyond a lot of these problems. Cefore X. Plosives: percent. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Now you're talking. Now you're talking. Cefore X. Plosives: and then we can sing karaoke together. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That leads me to this. Duh. We have to celebrate somehow. Andrew Rice CT-03: Obviously, there's gotta be karaoke involved in this. It wouldn't be a party without it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I was going to say something I completely forgot. Damn it. Anyway. Andrew Rice CT-03: I was like, you're on the spot, you have to remember now, now I'm curious. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): No, no, it happens all the time because I, you know, just derails and my brain is just firing off at like 90 miles an hour. ⁓ Yes, that's what it was. I've been talking to people about ⁓ like, you know how we start with the government starts with an ungodly amount of money and it never reaches the problem areas. It never reaches. Andrew Rice CT-03: We were talking about therapy and cannabis, I don't know if that helps for... Cefore X. Plosives: You Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the homeless people. never reaches the roads, the bridges, it never quite reaches. So to me, in my head, that means we have too much bureaucracy getting in the way of the funds. Since we're talking about universal basic income any damn way. we should come up with a way to, I don't know if it's associated to your social security card, your voter registration card, your license, I don't know, I don't know. But instead of giving money to all these hands that keep chipping away at the problem solving money, we just take that money and give it to the people, universal basic income, and now, Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): All the programs that need to be had will be had because everyone who needs to take advantage of that program has the money. So now we have all the consumers and they're gonna tell us what is needed. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: I like that. I mean, I think the... So I'm very anti-capitalist. I do not like capitalism. I think we need to move beyond that. And part of the reason why is capitalism doesn't encourage problem solving because if you solved a problem, you can no longer profit off of it. And so there's always an incentive for there to be a problem so that you can always make money off of it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: And so that's why I got like a really ⁓ disenfranchised with my career in science, because to me, science is doing what is best to move mankind forward, what is best to create a better quality of life for everyone. And I come to realize that in science, we're trained more on treatment, because treatment is much more profitable than a cure or prevention. And so you just have all of these things that it's like a subscription to your health. And I didn't like that because I got into science to help everyone, not to, well, one, just help people with health insurance, but then only help them in treatment. I would like to prevent disease and cure disease, but no, the profit-driven motive dictates that we must treat disease because that is what will keep the medical, the insurance industry profitable, and that's what will keep Big Pharma profitable. And then, you you have You know, this, we don't want good nutritious food because if we had good nutritious food, well then you couldn't sell people, you know, the obesity drugs or the statins or the all of this. And so you just see how everything has become just a gobbledygook of bullshit because everyone has to make a profit. And that's, I think that's another issue with like all the bureaucracy thing is that when you give all this money to the government, and then they give it to private industry to distribute and whatnot. All of those bureaucratic levels have some sort of profit in there. And so in order for these places to make that profit, they're just taking away from being able to provide the services. And this is why I am not like when people are like, ⁓ we need that, know, like public private partnership. I'm like, no, we. just need to have people who want to do the right thing with the resources that they have to improve everyone's lives, but that makes me a leftist, scum, communist bastard. Cefore X. Plosives: Damn you. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Meanwhile, meanwhile, I always have the software community as a perfect example for this. People say, oh, it's money, it drives invention and all this other stuff. Meanwhile, there is the open source community that doesn't give two shits about how much money you have. We're going to be building software no matter how much money you put on the table. It's just what we do. Like now that I'm making a little bit more noise on social media, people are calling me out on stuff and I'm like, you're calling me out on dumb shit. My focus is making it good for everyone. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And it's just how it is, like open source community. It's free. Even ⁓ if you have to pay. So for example, I edit videos in DaVinci Resolve. They have a free tier. And then there's other stuff that I ended up paying for the bigger one because I'm apparently a bigger editor. But this bullshit that people are telling you, well, it takes money to make all this stuff. No, they want to control what you're doing with your time and your money and your efforts because it's chipping away at their power. Cefore X. Plosives: Nerd. Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No, exactly. so I mean, like, going back to I'm not a big AI person, but, you know, America has invested millions and billions of dollars into AI and Chappie GT and all of this. And then weren't the Chinese able to make an AI model that was more robust than our AI models for like a quarter of the cost? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ if you want to, if you really want to have a good time, go take a look at Chinese cars. Cefore X. Plosives: Everything's more efficient. Andrew Rice CT-03: just going to show that money isn't always everything. mean, helps. What Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You can get a Chinese car that blows an American car out of the water for a fraction of the price, like $10,000. $15,000 in a Chinese car. You have automatic windows, the sun thing and all kinds of stuff and it makes you coffee and it rubs your belly, all the things. All the things. We're paying 40, 50, $60,000 for a car. Cefore X. Plosives: base model. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You know? Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, a couple years ago I had to get another car and I only drive manuals. I hate automatics and the only manual I could find was the Nissan Versa and it was still $20,000. It's the smallest car I could get and I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, I'm surprised it doesn't have roll down windows. It does have the automatic windows, but it has no bells and whistles and I'm like, This is outrageous. When I got a car 10 years ago, was like, the what? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): How's that AM radio treating you? The AM radio. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ God. ⁓ It's just it's just crazy in this country how everything is just so hyper capitalistic and everything is squeezing the working class people of every single dime that they can get. And I mean, there are some of these fancy cars now. It's like you don't even know the what? Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. And the rich people are just gross about it too. And let me tell you, if you are poor and you think that all these rich people are doing things to your benefit and all that stuff, and you just got to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and stuff, you should hang out with more rich people, because their life does not have any friction like that whatsoever. Andrew Rice CT-03: So, I was talking to someone the other day and I was mentioning something about taxing the billionaires and the first thing that came up was like, ⁓ but know, Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, they started from nothing and, you know, they've worked in their garages and like, well, some people don't even have garages, but Bezos got... Yeah. So, someone like Bezos... Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Tyler Perry was homeless for a hot second. Andrew Rice CT-03: He got $300,000 loan from his parents. I'm like, imagine what I could do or what you could do with a $300,000 loan from your parents. And Elon Musk, well, his father owned an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa. Bill Gates, his mother was on the board of IBM who got someone in IBM to invest in her son's whatever. Taylor Swift, I think her parents were record label people. so all of these billionaires. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You know, yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: They didn't start from nothing. didn't. Yeah, they weren't homeless and then became billionaires. I'm sure there's that one random person that might have literally started with absolutely nothing and became a billionaire, but it is not. There's the there's anecdotal versus statistical. Of course, there's going to be an anecdote of someone doing that, but that is not the norm. There's always going to be that one person that can slide through the cracks of the system meant to keep us down. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: But that whole model is necessary to validate capitalism's existence because the capitalists will point to Jeff Bezos and all these rich people and be like, that could be you too. It's just like 1 % chance that that could be 0.01 % chance that that could be you. And it's just Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And then mix in there, mix in there that control that we keep talking about. For example, you you brought up Taylor Swift and all these knuckleheads, right? The music industry has a lot of money and they will give a band a contract only to put them on the shelf because they want to control what you're listening to. So, for example, if Taylor Swift had someone else who sang Taylor Swift like songs, Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're going to buy or they're going to give that person a contract, but they won't make any records. They're not going to push them because that person is interfering with the offering that is Taylor Swift. That's your control. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes. Yes. And so another thing that I started understanding more running for office is I'm a proponent of regulation, but I've come to realize that a lot of regulations that we have are not actually there for public safety. It is there to prevent competition. And I feel like that's what you're talking about. The record labels. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: signing a contract but not pushing your record, it is to prevent competition from Taylor Swift. And so it is very, very interesting that in this capitalist society where innovation and competition and blah, blah, all of these policies are put in place to prevent competition against the major corporations and conglomerations. There's nothing innovative about what these companies are doing. The only Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: innovation to me of capitalism is exploitation and driving down the quality of a product. And that is why everything we buy nowadays is just absolute crap that lasts like a year or two before you have to get it again, because that's the only way you can continue to make things profitable is driving down quality or exploiting labor. And that's where we're at with so many things. And again, there's just so many things that are wrong with this world because no one Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): percent. Andrew Rice CT-03: So to me, feel like we should be waking up every day not thinking like, how do I make profit? It should be like, how do I fulfill my life? How do I do something to push all my community forward, to make it a better place for everyone to live? Or even just something that I enjoy. So if you love cars, then yeah, go be a car salesman. But do it because you enjoy it, not because you think you can make all this money off of it. because everyone's just so miserable all the time trying to make all this money and just like, what's the point of having all this money if you're miserable all the time? Cefore X. Plosives: And what's tough is too, is that the things that you're passionate about, they make it impossible for you to make a living off of them. You know, so right. Or if you do love cars, if you're not out there just grinding and doing what you like, you know, falls to the wall, making it happen day in and day out, and you're struggling, it's going to hinder your dream. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: and Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If it's creative. If it's creative. Cefore X. Plosives: So then therefore you go into, you fall back into the channel and then you're doing whatever they mundane test that you do to ⁓ survive on a daily basis. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And let me tell you rich people aren't fixing cars. Well, let me say like this. That's a grant. That's a ⁓ generalization. But for the most part, rich people aren't in the garage. They're in the office making calls to their money people saying buy this, sell that, buy this, sell that. So when they tell you that you're not working hard enough, ain't that a bitch? Andrew Rice CT-03: Okay. I would say these rich people probably don't even necessarily have cars that they use to drive. They have their private jets and their yachts. that's why that's why I like a lot of the roads I think are shit is because the rich people don't have to drive on them. They can just take a helicopter from their private house to their private airport to their private jet to their, you know, private, their friends private island where there is a bunch of underage children. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're in the office. Yeah, six yachts and all the dumb shit. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: that they can, you know, ritualistically sacrifice and eat and do whatever god knows what, because that is apparently... I never thought, like, that is so weird. You have billions of dollars and instead, like, at least the billionaires back, like, Rockefellers and the Carnegie's, they're like, fuck you, I'm gonna make a library. And then Rockefeller's like, I'm gonna make a university. And then Carnegie was like, well, I'm gonna make two universities. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That is so strange. Andrew Rice CT-03: and they had a dick measuring competition on who could do like more good in the community and build libraries and all this shit. The current billionaires are basically like, well, I raped more children than you. And it's just, and I have more zeros at the end of my bank account. Yeah, and I'm just like, that is the, it's so weird how that. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Well, I ate six of them. Yeah. Now, this is what's this is what's crazy. I can't remember who I was talking about this with, but I was saying at what point in history, because I do appreciate business people and and like making the connection between me and bananas that grow in the middle of the jungle. Cefore X. Plosives: Hello. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): in wherever the hell Chiquita Banana has a place. I understand that there's a value to what you bring to the argument. I get it. My question was, when was it that businessmen just let the creepy ones take over? And the answer was the beginning of this country, the businessmen enslaved people. There was never a time where a business people actually were doing the right thing for the country. Make sense? Andrew Rice CT-03: Well, I mean... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Business people have always been shady. They've always been shitty. They've always been greedy. They've always been. You might have one or two that actually have their heart in the right place and they make the right. I don't know who that person is. I haven't met them yet, but. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. There, you know, there was this one person that was visited by three ghosts on Christmas Eve and he became a good businessman. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ But that was at the tail end of his life in the movie. ⁓ boy was like two weeks away from punching the clock. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: That is a better late than never? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): All his friends are dead. He's the only one that's Cefore X. Plosives: Ha ha ha. Andrew Rice CT-03: Friends are business associates. I don't think he had friends. Cefore X. Plosives: So others. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. What kind of... Go ahead, Andrew. Andrew Rice CT-03: But I mean, I think. ⁓ no, I was just gonna say, think that's, one thing I've also realized is in this ⁓ system, we're so deprived of human connection and the way we compensate for that is to buy material things that ultimately don't make us happy but give us that quick dopamine hit. And again, that's a more, ⁓ my God, I'm so addicted to my phone, it's terrible. It is absolutely awful. And I know better. And it's like, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and talk to our phones. You Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: I know that I should not, by the way, this thing's just turning my mind to mush, but I'm just like, huh, more, more, puppy, hot man, death. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): But that's question, right? ⁓ We're leveraging social media to communicate and to connect and to get these ideas out. The short term that I use is practicing democracy. We're sharing ideas, we're beating up ideas, we're seeing what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. Cefore X. Plosives: You Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So I try to give myself a little bit of flexibility because it is, you're not gonna make it in social media or in media at all unless you do social media and or media. Right? Now, for me, what I do is when we're getting ready for bed, everything goes on sleep mode. and I go and I watch a couple videos while I smoke and get ready for bed. And then that shit don't turn back on until the morning time. But when I'm awake, this is my job. Editing videos, talking to you guys, all that stuff. I have to give myself that much flexibility. Because it's what we do. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ mean, so the I mean, something like this ⁓ is not the same as watching, you know, the the 22nd one minute videos like an actual long form discussion is fantastic. But those aren't the things that, you know, we couldn't upload this entire video to Instagram and have Instagram recommended to new audiences because it has to stay under that three minute mark. And so ⁓ I realized the other day that I became a victim to this system where even my attention span, was like, ⁓ my God, there was a guy named Dylan Blaha and he made a post about how ⁓ a Republican was being targeted by his own party. And before I finished watching his video where he explains in 10 seconds the Republican that was being targeted, I'm already like, ⁓ my God, who's the Republican being targeted? And I posted it and someone's like, dude, if you just watch the video, he tells you. I'm like, ⁓ my God. I'm like, I'm that asshole that couldn't sit there for another five seconds to watch something. And I'm like, ooh, my goodness. I have to watch myself now. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. And this is how like all the streaming services get you now, right? Now they have the commercials and the ads. you know, five minutes are in the game, you know, and then all of a sudden you have to, you're like, I can't get through this ad. I need to get, I'm jumping on my phone. I'm trying to do something. I'm trying to stay busy. And the next thing you know, I'm paying $10, $25 a month to get rid of the ads, right? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: And they just get you in this vicious vicious cycle where you're dumping hundreds and thousands of dollars a year because you can't pay attention long enough. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah. it's a social media and the phone are very interesting because I used to think that, you know, I used to ⁓ I could I can text like, you know, 20 people at the same time, whereas I can't have a conversation with 20 people at the same time. And I used to think like, ⁓ wow, the phone really helps me to connect more with people. And then I realized it just gives us the illusion of connection. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Andrew Rice CT-03: And so, oddly enough, I used to be a phlebotomist, I'm no longer certified, but in phlebotomy class, I learned a statistic that only 7 % of human communication is done through word choice, and the other 93 % is done through body language, tone of voice, even just the... If you walk into a room and you can feel tension, even this form, it's better than texting... or phone conversation because we can at see each other's faces. You can see my hand moving and stuff. But not being there in person with you, there's still some percentage of the message that isn't coming across because of that other, like, again, like ⁓ that vibe that people have. And so it is very interesting when you step back and look at all of this, it just the... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: just how much we don't understand how this shit affects us before we dive right into it. And that's one of my biggest concerns about AI is that, yeah, it probably could be a really cool tool, but until we actually fully understand what it does to our brains and to our ways of functioning and our ways of critical thinking, it's a dangerous tool to just put out there because now we're starting to see the effects of what social media has done. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): community. Andrew Rice CT-03: to especially younger people. so I fear that we're just gonna, we always repeat the same mistakes. And at what point do we, as a society, like learn not to repeat these mistakes? Cefore X. Plosives: We're seeing that we saw this in football, right? CTE, right? We wore, they didn't wear helmets, they wore helmets that were made out of leather and they're crashing each other and like colliding like two rams in the middle, in the wherever, in the field, right? And all of a sudden there's these long-term effects that are going on in their brain and then they can't do anything. So there's, we haven't had a long enough runway or data to actually figure out what is going on in our brains to figure this shit out. And now you can go ahead and get an AI girlfriend that looks like whoever you want. And there is no social connection with any human being if you really don't want one. This is fucking crazy, man. Andrew Rice CT-03: Which is because humans are very social creatures back and you one of the reasons why we are the apex species in this on this planet is because of our ability to collaborate with one another. At Yale, there's the Peabody Museum and it was showing that, you know, the reason why we were able to develop such a complex society is because humans were able to collaborate in ways that other species just weren't able to. And this wasn't necessarily a speech thing. A lot of it had to do with nonverbal cues and whatnot. But having that social connection is so important to humans. And ⁓ yeah, the AI girlfriends and all of that. mean, even pornography these days, I guess, has gotten so wild. that there are guys that just can't get hard unless they're seeing like two people shit on one each other while drinking piss. I'm like, oh God! I was like, that's a... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): What? ⁓ That's overrated. Cefore X. Plosives: punches that code in like, ⁓ shit, damn it, man. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, I do not want to the search history on some of the younger people's ⁓ porn accounts because I can only imagine what weird stuff ⁓ comes out of their... did Siri just... I think Siri just... ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I know. ⁓ series like going to your favorites porn hub. But going back to like the how easy it is to miscommunicate and to receive information incorrectly, like we're visual people. We we we see and that's how we've learned to survive. We're able to see and like move our heads around and stuff like that. But Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, like, don't. No one needs to see that many dicks on a screen at once. Cefore X. Plosives: Hahaha! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): When it comes to the new technology, text and email, that shit, like how many times have you read a text or an email and it has nothing to do with anything. It's just a normal email that came through. But just because you're going through a day, you read it the wrong way. And then you sprinkle in just a little bit of dyslexia for some of us. And you know what I mean? And you misunderstand something. And the person who sent the text or email was like, that's not exactly what I was trying to, and you're like, fuck you, gratis. Right? ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: Gladys is a bitch. I don't know what your experience with her is, but... Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah What do you mean by have a nice day? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): But yeah, that's happened to me. Yeah, that's happened to me at work. And you're like, what are you doing? We just had a conversation about this. Why are you sending this email like that? No, it's just informing the team. ⁓ okay. I thought you were trying to, you know. Andrew Rice CT-03: There's this, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): past the boundaries of your responsibilities or whatever, whatever the case may be and what it said, ⁓ misunderstanding. But yeah, we're very much, we're so social that something as simple as a text message can be misunderstood. And if I said the same exact words in the same exact lineup, you'd be able to understand it a little better. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Yup. So the um... So I know a lot of times I will try and either add like an exclamation point or an emoji in there to, you know, try and make things a little bit more clear. But, and I've seen, I don't know if this is a Gen Z thing. I'm a millennial, but I heard this is a Gen Z thing. I hate the thumbs up emoji because I can never tell if it's this or... or... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah, like a sarcastic one. ⁓ Great fucker, here you go. ⁓ Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, like a sarcastic, like, okay, yeah, versus, yeah, dude, versus like, okay, got it. I mean, those are three different messages from the same thumbs up. So when someone thumbs up a text, depending on, like, what the fuck does that mean? Are you being a sarcastic asshole? I thought that. Or it could be up yours too. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Let's get back to you being a scientist. Andrew Rice CT-03: What do you want to know? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Were you always a geeky kid? Yeah, in the books and in the dicks? Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes. ⁓ yes. So I was actually never... Wait, what about the paper cuts? Cefore X. Plosives: Watch out for those paper cuts. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Hahaha Cefore X. Plosives: Books in the dicks, man. Just watch out for paper cuts. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ god, I don't like that at all. No, I am. So I grew up on Star Trek and Star Wars. I've always you know, sci fi has always been my thing. I like Star Wars more than I like Star Trek. And then within Star Wars, my favorite is The Empire Strikes Back. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. You Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): No. Do you have one, do you favor one over the other? Andrew Rice CT-03: And then in Star Trek, my favorite series is Voyager. Catherine Janeway's my boo. I would follow Captain Janeway to the ends of the galaxy and back. She's got my full confidence. Cefore X. Plosives: I was the next generation kind of guy. I think it was because of LeVar Burton and he was in Reading Rainbow. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: Cause I never saw reading Rainbow. Cefore X. Plosives: because we're Gen X. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ do yourself a favor. Yeah, you gotta be old. Andrew Rice CT-03: Is that a GenX thing? Okay. Cefore X. Plosives: Some, some. Andrew Rice CT-03: Okay, so I missed out on the reading rainbow, but I mean do love me some Geordie LaForge. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: There you go. All scientists, action. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, scientists. Andrew Rice CT-03: Well, Beverly Crusher was the... I would always follow the blue shirts because they were the science people. The yellow shirts were the engineers and then the red shirts were the command officers. So I always had an affinity for the blue shirts because they're the ones that are doing the science. They're the ones that are pushing forward medicine. And so I've always had a bit of an affinity for the medical aspect of science. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're doing the work. Yeah. So Star Trek got your passions going for science. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yep. then, uh, so actually before I went to college, I was deciding between political science and science science. so Star Trek gave me me my affinity for science and Star Wars gave me my affinity for political science. Cause in 1999, when, you know, those, those disputed trade routes caused a planetary war. was like, this is cool. Everyone thought it was stupid. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Nice. ⁓ I Andrew Rice CT-03: And then sure enough, know, in 2026, a trade route is causing planetary concerns for our people. I'm like, well, apparently George Lucas did something right. ⁓ where'd our friend go? He disappeared. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I don't know. If he's that Panera, it could be just about anything. Andrew Rice CT-03: shitty internet connection. It's 2026, we should be able, I should be able to get internet wherever I am in this world, there's the technology. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): for real. It's just not it's and again, capitalism gets in the way. Andrew Rice CT-03: Hmm? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If you were, if you were to leverage the internet for this connectivity that we keep talking about, and the, the social awareness that you can glean from staying connected, but no, there's always a paywall. There's always some hurdle. No, that's not, no, you can't have no. Meanwhile, Earlier we were talking about, you know, we're comparing China and all these other places. China invests heavily in education. India invests heavily heavily in education. Iran invests heavily in education. Israel invests heavily in education. Europe invests heavily in education. We're the only place, it seems like we're the only place on the planet that's like, nah, we good. You guys need to go be dumb. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes. Yeah. So there's one of my biggest inspirations is George Carlin and one of his standups skits. He's like, we need people smart enough to work the machines, but dumb enough to not question why they're doing it in the first place. And I'm like, it's so true. that's so that's actually I think that was actually something that Rockefeller started the Education Board, which eventually Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: kind of turned into, well, the Department of Education didn't begin until Jimmy Carter's period. But before that, I think there was the General Education Board, and that was started by either Ford or Rockefeller or something because they just wanted, they wanted the government to hold the responsibility of training the workforce so that they didn't have to spend money on training the workforce. And so ⁓ I'm a, you know, I'm a huge proponent of education, but I don't necessarily feel like we do education in this country. We do indoctrination. you you have to sit there from nine to three and you have to ask to go to the bathroom and you're given homework. And it's like, this is to prepare children for the nine to five grind to, you know, get them used to being in a place at a time, being told what to do, following instructions, taking bathroom breaks when it's convenient for the store owner, and then homework is just a way of conditioning them into accepting later on in life their boss texting them in the after hours, being like, hey, I need you to do this. And you being like, ⁓ yeah, I'll do that because I'm so used to having to take my work home with me from school. And so I have my bachelor's and my master's. I really wanna say that I didn't really learn, learn, learn about critical thinking skills. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: until I got my masters. That's a problem. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): in, what'd you get your masters in? Andrew Rice CT-03: cellular molecular biology. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: Because in undergrad, really was just memorizing facts and being able to regurgitate them, which is stupid because, I mean, first of all, that's what the library is for. But now, I have all the knowledge of mankind in the palm of my hand. I don't need to remember everything. I need to understand how to challenge what I'm seeing, how to learn that what I'm seeing can be applied in different areas that aren't a direct repeat of what I've been studying and so I would really like to see more critical thinking at a younger earlier age but again we don't want people being too smart because if they're too smart they're going to question why they're doing this shit that they're doing. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's why, that's specifically why they go and they get 17, 18, 19, 20 year old boys, kids to join the military, especially boys, because we're dumb. We're dumb. You say, oh, go over there and blow things up. You're like, ooh, ha, yeah, ooh, ha. I've been there. Andrew Rice CT-03: For freedom! Cefore X. Plosives: You Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I've been there. ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: I was too much of a little bitch to ever be in the military. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. But no, they do that because we don't question and you're coming out of that system that you're just talking about that is is priming you for this shit. So right after high school, you just got done doing your constitution test, you're feeling pretty good, you're feeling very American and all the things. And then when you're older, you're like, you want me to fight who? Why? Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ You want me to fight Iran for Israel? No, thank you. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Why are we over there in the first place? Like for me, this whole Israel thing, for me, this whole Israel thing is blowing my mind because it's like we're defending a nation. that is gentrifying the region. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yup. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Israel has been there. When did it start? Like 1940s? Andrew Rice CT-03: 1947 was the UN resolution and then think 1948 was the partition of mandatory Palestine into Israel. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Israel is 30 years, roughly 30 years older than me. Andrew Rice CT-03: How many genocides have you committed? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I can't maybe the one that came art maybe, but no, I can't. I can't remember any. And I understand that people are going to get upset and listen, just because this book says that you come from over there doesn't mean you get to go back to over there. Like they're shoehorning these folks there and To me, I don't see a difference between what's happening with the people in Gaza. There's no difference in what they're doing to the black and brown communities here in America. Andrew Rice CT-03: absolutely. I love the promise of America. I love the idea of immigrants coming together and the melting pot. And that is a beautiful story. But there's also a very dark story underneath that of genocide and enslavement because these lands were stolen from indigenous people for colonization by the Europeans. Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: And then once we took out all of the natives and made space for white people and European people, we also brought the slaves over from Africa. I think we're the only nation that had race-based slavery and made race the primary driver of who a slave was and who a slave wasn't. And then we built up our economy, we built up our infrastructure, we built up all of this wealth. on stolen land and the labor of enslaved people. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and stolen labor. And these are the business people that I was referring to before. Andrew Rice CT-03: And people like to say that slavery was abolished. I'm like, no, it was not abolished. It was rebranded as prison labor. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Was it though? Yeah. And corporate America. Cause last time we spoke, I told you guys when I was in corporate America. I was working 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 hour work weeks, not two weeks, not a month. One week I would put in between 90 and a hundred hours. And then when I said, screw this, I'm going to dial it back down to like 50 to 60. I got taken into the office to get reprimanded because I wasn't working as hard as I usually work. Cefore X. Plosives: You're not a team player, Carlos. Andrew Rice CT-03: That is So, mean I've I've never I've always worked for nonprofits because I don't like the the corporate grind I I'm so going back to grinder I was on a grinder one time and There was someone that was like teasing me. They're like, oh you only work 40 to 50 hours a week I'm pulling like 60 78 hour work. He thought I'm like Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So it's still there. Andrew Rice CT-03: Why are you wearing your exploitation on your sleeve like a badge of honor? Shouldn't you be like, I was like, I'll take my, I was like, if you want to work yourself to death, go ahead and do that, but you're not going to make me feel bad for not wanting to be exploited by, you know, someone who's going to be making millions of dollars off of me being more productive. And so, you know, you could act, you know, if you actually took a step back and we all were like, you know what, we're not working more than 40 hours a week and we all, cause she's all stuck together. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: then the ruling class would have no choice but to work with us. We outnumber them 100 to one. They're organized, they have class solidarity. The ruling class, they are all on the same page, they are all in that big club, and the rest of us are just unorganized, and then we all work together to raise the cow. And then the ruling class takes that cow, slaughters it, takes the filet mignon, takes the flank, takes all the rib eye, all that, the T bone, all of it. And then they throw hot dogs at the working class and tell us to be grateful. And it's just like, no, if we all work together, we all could get the spoils of the cow and not just the hot dog, which is just, you know, pressurized water pushing meat off of the bone. Have you ever seen how hot dogs are made? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No. Cefore X. Plosives: Hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, they basically so after they get rid of all the meat on the cow, they take pressurized water and on the bones and that pushes all the rest of the meat off. Then it creates this like sludge that they dehydrate and condense and then put into like, I mean, it used to be intestines, but now I think it's just some sort of whatever. And that's what a hot dog is, is literally just the pressurized water meat from the dead carcass of a cow. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): was a great outdoors, the movie with John Candy. said, you know what hot dogs are made out of? Cow lips and assholes. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: Basically, there's like zero real meat in a hot dog. And yeah, so the ruling class just gives us those and then they blame the immigrants or the trans people as to why you can't get two hot dogs. just like, it's the pedophiles that own the billionaire, the billionaire pedophile parasites that are taking away the meat. and having you blame the immigrant and the trans and your neighbor for not having more. And it's just, I think we're getting to a point though where there is a bit more understanding that this is going on. And I think that is probably one of the big, like one of the positives of social media is that this is the first time in history that we can try and send out a coordinated message to the masses. I think the elites are trying to push back on that. So today we just saw or I just saw that ⁓ the shareholders of Warner Brothers have voted in favor of selling off to Paramount. so, know, Paramount, who's owned by Ellison, TikTok is now owned by Ellison. so, you know, back in the, you know, the 90s or something, there were like 80 different, ⁓ you know, cable companies and whatnot. Now there's like, you know, five big conglomerates that own all of media. And if this merger goes through, think like 81 % of the media market will be owned by one person. I'm like, nothing can go wrong with that. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And this is this is the problem that I try to explain to folks that are anti socialist that are, you know, that are capitalist and everything. There comes a time where someone's quote unquote success. Number one, you've screwed people, you've done dirty shit to get to that point. one to begin with. Number two. We need to have more decision-making possibilities or offerings so we can survive a little better because now we have this dude that's going to be owning 81 % of the things and when someone owns that much, it's what they say. They dictate the future and we're learning that they not only are they Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): not only did they molest, but they're also like eating these kids. And you want them in charge of the decision making process? Andrew Rice CT-03: So people go into like the supermarkets and the stores and they see that you can get you know rainbow flavored Oreo and regular Oreo and chocolate fudge Oreo and peanut butter Oreo and Reese's Pieces Oreo and you know you have 20 different options of Oreos and people think that's choice but then when you look at all the different you know chips Ahoy Oreo Ritz, all these, it's all owned by you know, Nabisco or something. And you have like, you know, have 20 different cereal options. They're not really different options. They're all owned by, you know, Kellogg. And you just have, we've done a very good job at creating the illusion of choice by having, you know, hot dog flavored potato chips. just like, ew! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Keibler. Yeah, yeah. And that's the frustrating thing is like, that's not even the choice that I want. I want the choice to get into film. I want the choice to go to Connecticut if I needed to, you know, those are the choices that the availability of choice for me is how I can improve my life. I don't want rich people telling me where I can go, where I can't go. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. or what I can or cannot say, because... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): or what I and cannot say exactly. Andrew Rice CT-03: And I mean, both sides have been ⁓ terrible with censorship. And I mean, a lot of it does come back to Palestine, where the Democrats don't want the right censoring them, but then went ahead and censored anyone that was pro-Palestine and said genocide was bad. The Democrats helped get thousands of students across the country expelled and Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: job loss and job offers rescinded because they took a stand against genocide. so now they're, so I'm sure you've all heard of project 2025, but there's actually a sub project within it called project Esther, where the plan is to conflate pro Palestine movements with antisemitism. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: to begin the process of linking anything anyone disagrees with with anti-Semitism to shut down any sort of dialogue or debate that goes against the Zionist agenda. I don't understand what is going through ⁓ Jewish Zionists' heads because are you both familiar with the story of the end times and the rapture? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: So in order for the rapture to occur, the Christians have to expel all of the Muslims from Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): which was come to find out the rapture was invented or it came out in like what year was it 1831 yeah so as some some tv evangelists before there was tv convinced people that the rapture was going to happen Andrew Rice CT-03: 1831 by Jonathan Nelson Darby. And then the first... But in order for that to happen, the Christians have to uphold their oath to God to bequeath the land of the Levant to the Jews. That way when the rapture occurs at the onset of the apocalypse, Jesus can come down to Israel, have all the Jews amassed there, and then give them one last opportunity to accept him as Lord and Savior or murder them all. So literally the Christian Zionists want all the Jews in the world in Israel to kill them. And I'm like, don't the Jewish Zionists realize that is what the Christians are trying to do is literally round you all up into one area so that their savior can kill you all. And like you're going along with this. It's like, I don't understand that you're literally moving towards your own doom because the Christians control like everything. They are just they just also happen to be Zionists because they're so they're actually more Christian Zionists than there are. Jews in the entire world. There are 15 million Jews and in Just Christians United for Israel, which is a Zionist, a Christian Zionist organization, their membership is 25 million. And that's not even the only Christian Zionist organization. There are more Christians that want to see this happen than Jewish people see this happen. And those are the Christians that believe in the rapture. And I'm like, is no one paying attention to the fact that, and then even when Donald Trump started attacking Iran on Israel's behest, There were reports of military people coming forward saying that their leaders were saying that this war is the flame that will ignite the apocalypse and this was God's plan for Trump. And I'm just like, and people are just going about their normal day as if everything's all right and I'm like, am I crazy? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Cefore X. Plosives: you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: Did you see, did you see ⁓ ship Roy's trying to put in past the mom Donnie act? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Andrew Rice CT-03: In the country of freedom of speech and land of all that shit, I'm like I don't also the other fun part is Cefore X. Plosives: Did you? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: the measures. ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: It's fucking crazy, the, I mean, in the 1950s, the CIA did a great job of the Red Scare. Someone told me this one time, like, this is hilarious. You can't even spell socialism without CIA being in the middle of it. So if you spell socialism, it's actually CIA. ⁓ And so if you actually tell people socialist policies, Cefore X. Plosives: Mm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ha Andrew Rice CT-03: or even like communist policies, you just don't use those two words. People are always like, yeah, that sounds great. Once you use those two words, suddenly people are turned off. like, is just the ⁓ propaganda and the testament of how well our government has propagandized people against the idea of socialism and ⁓ communism. And the government's always like, Do you know any successful socialist or communist nations? Well, considering Cuba's communist and they have more doctors per capita than any other nation and they have, you know, I suppose they have a cure for lung cancer and they have like a promising cure for Alzheimer's. Imagine what they could have achieved if we had not been embargoing them for their entire existence as a communist nation. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, and dementia, Exactly. And let's go ahead and poke that because you're talking to a Cuban. Let's go ahead and pull on that thread. The reason why Cuba is communist is because when Fidel was about to take over, he made a deal with the American government. They said when you take over, we're going to sell a bunch of your you're going to sell us a bunch of sugar. And then that's going to fund your government blah blah blah. All right, cool. Fidel takes over when it came time to buy the sugar. The American Americans were like, yeah, so this is what we're going to need you to do. And Fidel said, no, I don't want to do that. I want to run Cuba as Cuba. We're not going back to how you guys were treating it like a Vegas coming over here gambling and doing all kinds of ⁓ rich people stuff like insider trading and the mob. The mob ran Cuba. So there's a lot of dirty money happening and Fidel, that's why he took over. He wanted that shit to be gone. And then when the United States went back on their deal with him. They're like, No, we're gonna sit here. We're gonna watch you shrivel up. He said, Well, that's not gonna happen. He goes to the other superpower. When mom says no, you go to dad. So they went to Russia, they're like, yo, and Russia's like, yeah, we'll hook you up, but we gotta put missiles over there. That's why they're communist. Andrew Rice CT-03: Interesting. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And, and you can go get an education in Cuba from kindergarten all the way up to your doctorate for free. So when all hell breaks loose and there's wars happening all over the place and America wants to explain or the United States wants to explain to you how shitty Cuba is, then why is it that Cuba always sends doctors? Andrew Rice CT-03: Yes, yup. They're always sending their doctors everywhere. yeah. I mean, so anytime a nation goes to socialize their government or nationalized resources, there's always some shady shit that happens with the CIA. I think in 2001, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Period. Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Saddam Hussein was like, you know what, we're gonna move off the petrodollar, we're not gonna do this. Two years later, we invade. In 2010, Libya was like, you know what, we don't like the petrodollar, we're gonna create the African gold dollar. Two years later, the CIA destabilizes the country, we bomb them, now Libya is all fucked up. In 2021, Venezuela was like, you know what, we have a lot of oil and we- Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: don't want to sell it on the petrodollar market so we're gonna go by ourselves and you know work with bricks and then two years later we bomb and invade Venezuela and it's just a a pattern of anytime a sovereign nation wants to I mean so I mean this started way back back in the you know even with with Iran the there was a leftist popular populist governor government Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: that wanted to nationalize the oil reserves in Iran, that pissed off British Petroleum. So British Petroleum went to, you know, whoever, MI6, MI6 worked with the CIA, and we overthrew that government, installed the Shah, which, you know, which was a benefit to our national interests, but not a benefit to the people he subjected, you know, all this torture and torment to. And then that resulted in the 1979 Islamic Revolution. that install the ayatollahs that we're now fighting against. it's just like, yeah, the problems of today, we created generations ago by our own failed imperialist policy to uphold the system of capitalism and ensure that we could always get cheap resources from predominantly brown nations. Because at the end of the day, racism has been an ingrained part of our culture from the foundation of our nation. Cefore X. Plosives: Thank Andrew Rice CT-03: And there we are in this country, we are either consciously or subconsciously or subliminally, whatever you want to call it, taught to not trust women and people of color. And that's why it's so easy. So, like, you know, when Palestine is getting bombarded and all these people are dying, people like, ⁓ but in the Ukraine, when that's happening, people like, ⁓ my God, ⁓ my God, we have to help these people. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Send them unlimited money. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ okay, so we have to help the white people is what you're saying. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. And in Palestine, it's the white folks because the Jewish people that are there and the government that is there is, isn't Bibi, I heard Bibi is from like. Andrew Rice CT-03: Poland. I think it's Poland or Belgium or something. Cefore X. Plosives: Yep, I think it's dad or something like that, yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Is he? Yeah. Like, what are we doing, y'all? What are we doing? What and all of that all of that skirmishing that's happening out there. It's yeah, there's a bunch of shitty business people, but it's also religiously based. Andrew Rice CT-03: So. the, mean, the I know that the ⁓ I mean, Mike Huckabee was talking with Tucker Carlson and was saying how everything going on over there is based off of the interpretation of the Old Testament. And it's very frustrating because it's like I love when people, especially like the Supreme Court, are like, ⁓ you we need to follow the Constitution based off of what the founders were thinking when they wrote it. And so in 1796, one of the first, I think it was one of like the first treaties we signed was the Treaty of Tripoli, unanimously approved by the Senate. And in that treaty, it specifically states that the United States is not a government based off of the Christian religion in like any way, shape or form. was obviously much nicer wording. But a Senate ratified treaty is federal law. And that Senate was comprised of mostly the founding fathers. And so it's very interesting that people always seem to ignore that whole situation that specifically says that we are not a Christian nation. And then we're still using the Bible, the Christian book, to dictate our foreign policy, which goes against the foundation of our nation and the words of our founders. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: And I'm just like, the hypocrisy is mind boggling. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. In a country that you're supposed to have the freedom to worship or not however you want. So now they're jamming this bullshit down our throats. And when I say bullshit, when I say bullshit, I mean... And my bullshit, mean, I mean, it's... Andrew Rice CT-03: We're not talking about Grindr Cefore X. Plosives: It always circles back. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're forcing this religion down our throats when the religion that I was brought up in, Jesus was the Prince of Peace. You're supposed to turn the other cheek. You're supposed to watch out for your neighbor. You're supposed to take your shirt off your back and give it to the person who needs a shirt. All this shit. All of this. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Washing prostitutes' feet. Cefore X. Plosives: Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And get this one, get this one, because there's a lot of y'all going to hell in the book itself, in the book, in the Holy Bible. This is my favorite one. It says, remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy. Sabbath was Saturday. Cefore X. Plosives: See, but this is how to keep the MAGA cattle keepin'. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You can't even live. You can't even live according to the rules that you set forth. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ mean, so it always amazes me. ⁓ So I mean, actually I wear a I actually wear a cross. haven't always worn a cross. I started wearing it more recently. I actually started like last year when Trump was reelected because well, when I'm outside, especially in the summer, I'm usually shirtless because I just sweat a lot and it's gross. I don't like it. But a lot of my neighbors are MAGA. And they're nice people otherwise, and I'll talk with anyone, but a lot of times they will bring up Jesus. And so I started wearing this cross, it started getting people, people would ask me, ⁓ that's such a beautiful cross. And I'm like, thank you. I just felt it was important to remind people of the true message of Jesus. And as you were saying, taking care of the immigrant, taking care of the poor, the sick, the homeless, the prostitute. that a camel would sooner get through the eye of a needle than a rich man would enter the kingdom of heaven. And you can just, I think you can kind of like see them crunching the data. I feel like I can sense that conflict within them that they're supporting a man that does the literal exact opposite of everything that Jesus said that a good person should do in their lives to show that they are committed to his message while worshiping a rich man whom Jesus threw tables at. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. And we're not even getting into the creepiness of it all, of that life, of his lifestyle. This is even before we get into the gluttonous gross cities that is his life. Cefore X. Plosives: 100%. Andrew Rice CT-03: But then... ⁓ I... Yeah, yeah. And that could be a whole nother podcast just going on that, which is although I have started noticing a few neighbors take their Trump flags down, although that came after the the incident in Iran, I still find it very, very problematic that after it was discovered that Trump was in the pedophiles 38,000 times. And that's just what we know of because we still don't have the full redact on redacted files. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: I think Jamie Raskin said that his name appears up to a million times. I really, I think that was the moment that I kind of like had to take a hard look at humanity. Cause I'm like, if we can't agree on pedophilia being bad, don't know how to have a conversation. How, how, how? Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: See, down here in Florida, it's like, it's a mixed bag, because right now, I see less hats, I see less flags. I see faded bumper stickers. But then you go onto the comments of like the local police scanner page, know, figure out what's going on out here. Then you see, ⁓ there was an ICE arrest. And then they're all like, yeah, get them out of here. They're doing their job. Why are you talking shit? Like, it's woven. Andrew Rice CT-03: And then. Cefore X. Plosives: You know what I'm saying? It's so like, it's so embedded in the DNA that it's like a, it's like a, it's like a muscle memory. They can't, they can't shake it out whether they're, there's, whether wearing a hat or their racism on their sleeve. You know what I'm saying? It's, it's, it's, the hatred is there and it's, it's, it's, it's sick, man. And they, they're not displaying it as much, but they're talking about it. They're talking about it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: So that is one of my another one of mine there's like a thousand concerns, but I How did so after the Holocaust and after Nazi Germany fell? Like what were those conversations like with neighbors like ⁓ hey, you know I tried to tell you that Hitler was an awful person that was gonna do these awful things and he went ahead with it like how did the German people reconcile like what does reconciliation Cefore X. Plosives: What? What? Andrew Rice CT-03: in America's future look like now that we know that 40 % of the population, pedophilia was not ⁓ a hard line for them. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): deterrent. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: Well, you know, in Project Paperclip, they brought German scientists over here. Right? In Project Paperclip, they brought all the German scientists over here and they gave them all the secrets and all this other stuff. It's no different than what they're doing with Israel. They bring all the Israelis over. You know what I'm saying? It's like, to a T. Yeah. Hey. Andrew Rice CT-03: Like, how do we move forward? Yeah, yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right. and they got to work at NASA. Andrew Rice CT-03: So NASA, NATO, Nazi, they all begin with N.A. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: I think the first like secretary general of ⁓ NATO I think was a former SS or something and I'm like So even learning that the Nuremberg trials didn't cover everyone was upsetting Cefore X. Plosives: Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's crazy. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, how do you get past that? Like, hey... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. And that's the first thing the Nuremberg trial. The first step is going to be Nuremberg trial, like holding people accountable. And let me tell you, America, United States, I keep saying that United States, if you do not hold these people's feet to the fire and you don't clean house, you get exactly what you deserve. You you're asking for this dumb shit. Cefore X. Plosives: Hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: I think we need three sets of Nuremberg trials. One for the Gaza and Palestine, one for the Epstein files, and one for all the ICE abuses. And all of those people need to be held accountable. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and it doesn't work for you. No, the and let's make it four because one for all the knuckleheads in government because I'm sorry, but I always forget his name. ⁓ Now that's Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller needs to pay a price. ⁓ This entire cabinet needs to pay the price. Kristi Noem, all those idiots, all those idiots need to pay the price because I'm sorry. Andrew Rice CT-03: Eric Swalwell. Cefore X. Plosives: Stephen Miller. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ yes, yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): black and brown community, can't turn into the white neighborhoods without getting pulled out of the car. But white folks can come over here and destroy the entire government? And everyone, no, I quit my job. No, bitch. No, bitch. That's not good enough. We need scalps. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, So ⁓ this was, I used to love Obama. He could do no wrong. I would drink the Blue Kool-Aid straight from his whatever. And then later in life, I learned he deported more people than I think even Donald Trump did in his first term. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Back to Grindr. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: He killed more civilians with drones than any other president. But also, The Hague wanted to charge W. Bush and his cabinet for war crimes and crimes against humanity. And Obama was like, no, if you do that, we'll invade the Netherlands and destroy something, blah, blah. I'm like, George W. Bush and that whole administration should have been held accountable for everything they did with but with Guantanamo Bay, with Abu Grabe, was it Abu Grabe? That one, Abu Grabe. And that was never done. We never held those people accountable. And then Trump comes by, he's found to have been the instigator of January 6th. And what does Biden and Merrick Garland do? Well, it would look bad to put ⁓ a president on trial. No! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Abu Graif. Abu Graif. and even worse, McConnell, even worse, McConnell. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ that much? You know it's too late to hold him accountable because he's so senile like you he's done like his brain is mushed whenever you see a video of him and someone's talking to him he's like ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Well, hubba, bubba, well, hubba, bubba, you no chin havin' ass bitch. Cefore X. Plosives: Falling down. Talk about it. Andrew Rice CT-03: He looks like a turtle. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, he was around when the founding fathers were around. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: along with the incumbents that I'm challenging. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He was the intern. Cefore X. Plosives: You Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, it is. Cefore X. Plosives: Well, see, they're doing this to their own people now, too, because you notice with World Liberty Financial, right? They dump it full of money, right? And then all these guys like Justin Sun, they come in there, they're putting all their money in there. And then, like, all of a sudden, Trump pulls all of his money out, right? And then Justin's like, well, I want to pull my money out, too. Well, you can't. We're going to freeze you right now because we don't have any money in the account. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ahem. Cefore X. Plosives: Now, now the billions of the 4590 billion million dollars that you invested in the company in this crypto coin, we pulled it out. So we don't really have any money to pay you back. So now they're all going to if they start to break a little bit because Justin Sunstar is going to sue the Trump family. Right. So we'll see how this starts to play out. Like when the when the billionaires start to get pissed at each other, what happens? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): crazy. Cefore X. Plosives: You know what I'm saying? Steve, Steve, Steve, Steve, Wicoff's son got busted at a club in Miami the other day because he was doing cocaine. I kicked out of a club and then he, he, him and his buddy decided to either punch or ⁓ kick a bouncer or the owner. can't remember which one it was. Right. So now he's all over the place, you know, doing dumb shit. Right. So now Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: This isn't just a Hunter Biden laptop or cocaine in an envelope or something like that. These are billionaires exposing themselves because they're getting out of control, a little reckless. Andrew Rice CT-03: mean, it makes sense though. We know that a lot of these billionaires are pedophile murderers and no one's gone to jail. So of course they feel emboldened to do whatever they want because again, if we can't draw the line at pedophilia, ritualistic sacrifice and eating the flesh of the ritually sacrificed raped children. Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: Cocaine means nothing. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Nothing. Cocaine is old. Andrew Rice CT-03: But yeah, that's so 2010. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So 1970s. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah, yeah, seriously. Like, damn, I miss the- I miss it when, you know, someone snorting a line of Coke was the worst thing that they could have done. Cefore X. Plosives: Studio 54. Unless you're IFK and you're doing it off a toilet. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. and he's in charge of health. He's in charge of health. Andrew Rice CT-03: he is in charge of a, but, ⁓ my, I don't know if either of you saw this the other day though. Well, the, so it's, well, he is, he's just another, I, that worm ate way more than of his brain than any of us were led to understand. But, ⁓ the other day he and my incumbents, Rosa DeLauro, Cefore X. Plosives: Ha! It helps build the immune system. Andrew Rice CT-03: gotten to this heated argument over raw milk. don't know if you saw that, but shh. It was weird, because I was like, out of all the things that we are getting very heated and passionate about, I'm like, feel like raw milk isn't the top of the list. I think there are a lot of other health concerns that we should be passionate about besides raw milk. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: And it was a very interesting exchange between the two of them, because I could barely understand the words coming out of either of their mouths, because they're just... Cefore X. Plosives: . Andrew Rice CT-03: in an advanced part of their life where the biology of the body doesn't keep up with certain things. And it was just like, can we please have people that can form full sentences be in our government and debate these things and not have it just be a... I mean, these same people have been fighting each other for the past 30 years and we all, and people really expect things to change by just voting blue no matter who, unless it's Mom Donnie, of course. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Please, please. And this is what's frustrating about all these knuckleheads that are, we'll call, we'll say in charge. ⁓ Elon Musk was in charge of Doge and he went through and he picked apart all of these programs and all this government spending. Ended up wasting way more money than it was worth. Then he goes on Joe Rogan and Joe Rogan goes, hey, How much corruption was in there? And he says, no, a hundred, 200 billion, 200 billion dollars. And everybody's like, oh, right. Me. Call me old and patina. I'm looking at him and I was like, bitch, weren't you in charge? You don't have not one spreadsheet to open up and show us. We have to go off of your opinion. Oh, 100 billion 200 easy 200 billion. Was it if it was that easy, bitch, go get the spreadsheet. Show us. And everybody's just eating out of this dude's hand. I'm like, he's an idiot. To me. He's an idiot. Elon is one of those rich boys that is just smart enough to make daddy smile. And he got all the fucking funds. And he got all the things. Cefore X. Plosives: have a spreadsheet in my mind. Andrew Rice CT-03: Show me some receipts. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): but he hasn't done shit. Elon is an idiot. Elon is an idiot. He doesn't even do public speaking that good. If you're gonna take out a goddamn flamethrower, don't look like a pussy doing it. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm so tired of Elon. I'm so tired of Elon. Give me Elon money. Give me not even Elon money. Give me a fraction of Elon money and watch me blow this place apart. We're gonna have so many smart kids. We're gonna have so much school. I would take I was talking to my sister about Elon and I said, you know what I would do if I was president, I would go get Elon. These are this is my my, my, my, my to do list. First. Citizens United gone. Next. fund education to a ridiculous level. All the schools, I don't give a shit. Then I would go get Elon and I would make him do doge, all that doge bullshit over at the defense department. Why Elon? Because fuck him. Because we need to see, he needs a spreadsheet to show us how much money he stole from the government. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: He gets billions of dollars in contracts every year and then so he owns SpaceX so that's right he bought he beat Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's all I'm saying. He bought. He didn't start it. He bought it. He bought Tesla. He bought PayPal. He bought the boring company. He bought. He bought. He bought. You know how smart I would be if I had millions of dollars in the bank? Cefore X. Plosives: It but. Twitter. Andrew Rice CT-03: using Cefore X. Plosives: But then he bought them with the shares. So he was even smarter because he bought them with shares and not even actual money. You know what I'm saying? Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ yeah, with Twitter! He put up his shares with Tesla's collateral to the bank and I was watching Trevor Noah one time and he was trying to explain it because people are always like, you can't tax Elon Musk because he doesn't have money because of this but then he was able to use the money to buy something but not money that can be taxed and it's just like, ⁓ okay cool, so we have a system where Cefore X. Plosives: Any liquid assets? Andrew Rice CT-03: the same money that can be used to buy things can't be taxed but only if you're rich. That makes no fucking sense. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. I want to give you this empty bag. It's full of imaginary money. So I want to get whatever I want. And then just, you know, just cash it whenever you want. But don't because it doesn't exist. You know, it's ridiculous how they just they rig every single game there is. Every single game. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm hmm. Yup. again, people there's I forget what show it's based off of, but there's a there's a meme where there's the two buttons and then there's the guy with like the handkerchief like sweating like which one do I press? And one of them is, you know, a point zero zero one percent chance of becoming a billionaire or a 99.99 percent chance that you could have all your basic needs met. And it's just like. It's so weird how people Cefore X. Plosives: Hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: don't, they would rather live in like live in like in squabble and squander on the off chance that they could be one of the very few people that somehow breaks into a system that is not designed for them to be these billionaires versus voting and promoting policy and being for policy that could literally ensure that they never have to worry about money ever again. Cefore X. Plosives: Yep. Andrew Rice CT-03: And I'm not saying that we should have a system where if you don't do anything to contribute to society, you live in a penthouse with a gold toilet. That's Donald Trump's gig. But everyone should be guaranteed the basic necessities of life, housing, food, water, ⁓ broadband internet. yesterday I went to ⁓ a group with homeless people because of Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): education. Andrew Rice CT-03: In Connecticut, April 22nd was the last day that ⁓ heating shelters were open. And now they're all closed. And now all these homeless people basically just got evicted from their communal heating shelter. And someone was saying, no, I can't even apply to jobs because I don't have internet, because my phone was disconnected. And And so again, like I just think that people should be guaranteed the minimum of what they need to survive in this country. And then if they want something more, they'll work for it. I don't imagine everyone being like Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It works in Dubai. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, when they have the surplus of money like $94 million, you know, like Pete Hegseth had, and they have the surplus of money and they just decide, ⁓ well, we have to blow it by the end of the year. Well, why can't we just repurpose it? You know what I'm saying? Reallocate the funds to that would be a benefit for people that really actually need it. Again, it makes too much sense. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It works in Dubai. And before the rich people get all nervous, rich people, when they watch this video, they start getting nervous and they start calling us socialists. Even if we don't touch the taxing, the tax, whatever schedule, whatever, even if we don't touch that, whatever money we're spending in Iran, in Israel, Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): in Ukraine, in El Salvador, in Venezuela, in Cuba. All that money could go to making more United States scientists, United States teachers, United States doctors. Education is the key y'all. I don't care. I don't care. It all comes down to that. And now ever since Trump took over, it has shown us that we need to invest in education way more because we have people getting tricked at simplest things. The simplest things. All someone has to do is get on TV and say, Jesus told me to bomb countries. Cefore X. Plosives: That's it. And boo the Pope for not wanting to stop Iran from building nukes. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. It is so crazy to me. ⁓ I remember, what was it? Who was the pope before this? Pope Leo? ⁓ I think he went to the Congress and was talking about, at one point, climate change came up. I think Chris Christie at the time was, know, lauding the pope for being against abortion and being pro-life. And then... He was like, but you know, the Pope took it too far when he started talking about climate change. Like, you know, the Pope should stay out of political topics. I'm like, okay, wait a minute. So he's, he's the Pope. And if you're a Catholic, the Pope is the word of God because he's, he's anointed by God to be his voice on earth. And so you, you agree with him on one thing, but then you disagree with him on The other thing and the abortion thing is purely a religious construct because there is no scientific definition that says that a fetus is actually, you know, life. There's no scientific consensus on when life begins. That is a religious interpretation of when life begins. But the climate, that can be both religious and scientific. So once, so I'm just like, again, there's no consistency in people's admiration or disgust with the Pope or Jesus or whatnot. And it just seems that a lot of people just want to use the Bible and Jesus and whatever to justify their own bigotry. And a lot of times I feel like that bigotry is just a result of unresolved trauma. I think a lot of problems in this world. is unresolved trauma. Like, look at Donald Trump. His father, you know, never gave the man a hug. I'm not saying that excuses all the atrocious shit that he's doing, but maybe if, you know, there was better mental health care in this country and less stigma against mental health, Donald Trump could have had a therapist who could have helped him work through the trauma of having such a shitty father, and maybe he would not have grown up to want to Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: know, rape women, eat their flesh, and take away rights from everyone else because he wasn't hugged enough as a child. And that's why I'm a very big proponent of health services. Cefore X. Plosives: Maybe his dad was on his own Epstein Island and he... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Well, his dad, we're learning his dad one worth half a shit either. He dodged a draft. Was it his dad, Fred, that dodged a draft in Germany? And he came over here and that's why they're over here? And then he tried to go back and they said, no, get out of here because you're a pussy. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: And he opened up a brothel, made a whole bunch of money. Yep, pretty much. Like father like son. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. And I do not want to... So when Trump either dies or... I mean, if he's alive in 2028, I feel like somehow he'll be able to run for office because somehow when the Democrats are in power, their hands are tied. Their hands are always tied. When Republicans are in power, suddenly there's no hand tying. And so I have a very... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: issue with the establishment Democrats because at the end of the day, I just feel like they are for the most part controlled opposition. I mean, they're both bought and paid for by the same corporations, the same corporations that funded Donald Trump are the same corporations that are funding, know, Rosa DeLauro, Jim Himes, Joe Courtney. They're all in bed with one another. And ⁓ at the end of the day, yeah, I just feel like both parties are there to ensure that the capitalist system Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): 100 % 100 % the same packs. Andrew Rice CT-03: stays in place. I mean, even Chuck Schumer said that his most important duty as the Senate majority leader is to ensure that the Democratic Party always remains pro-Israel. And I'm like, shouldn't your duty as the leader of the Democratic Party in the Senate be to ensure that the people of America have what they need and deserve to be alive in this country and to be citizens of this country? I mean, the end of the day, they're all more beholden to Israel and what the Israeli government wants versus their own people. And it's on both sides. And that's why we just need to get rid of all of them. Cefore X. Plosives: Hakeem Jeffries too. He's on the same shit. It's almost like they, so like we're all running towards like this American dream and free ourselves of all this bullshit administration. And then we get to a certain line, then all of a sudden they stop and they're all behind us and they're like, no, no, no, we can't go that far. You reach the line where we're that's where we're getting our money from. We got to pump the brakes. Whoops, we hit a wall. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yep. Andrew Rice CT-03: We're so. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): But we're starting to see, we are starting to see a little bit of a change though, because apparently if you receive money from APAC now that's just toxic. Andrew Rice CT-03: So it is toxic. so I think even like Massachusetts, Seth Moulton, who's in the House and he's running for Senate. ⁓ I'm supporting Alex Racline, though. I hope he gets his ballot signatures in time. ⁓ But I think even Seth Moulton returned the money to AIPAC because it is toxic. But now AIPAC is trying is finding ways around that. And we just saw that in Illinois, where like, you know, know, women for for Congress or something. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, exactly. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: And these sound like great progressive organizations, but then when you look at the funding, it's just AIPAC creating a shell organization, giving money to that, and then running ads on their behalf as these shell things because AIPAC is such a toxic label. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: as it should be because they are literally promoting and pushing for this genocide because they want that land and they're willing to murder whoever they need to in order to get it. like, that's, that doesn't sound very, I feel like that is a complete contradiction to what I understand about the Jewish religion, which like most religions is focused on the idea of like peace and love. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): making the world a better place. Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: And yeah, making the world a better place for everyone. so also, ⁓ going back to Jesus and Christianity and everything, Jesus has more blood relation to the Palestinians than he does to modern day Jewish people. Because a lot of modern day Jewish people are converted Europeans into the Jewish religion. And they're not actually the ethnic Jews that were once expelled from the Levant thousands of years ago. And not even all the Jewish people were expelled thousands of years ago. Many remained. And there were Jewish Palestinians. And I believe up until Zionist propaganda started taking a hold in Europe, the Palestinians always welcomed Jewish people into that land. It was only once Zionism started taking a hold where the Palestinians were like, well, you're talking about coming here and kicking us out, so yeah, we don't want you here anymore. And then the Zionists worked with Hitler to, I think, buy land in Palestine and move bankers over there to start establishing a force that would, you know, supersede the Palestinian wishes of not having these Zionists come into Palestine with the understanding that the Zionists wanted to ethnically cleanse the land of them. And so it's just a big, it's a big mess. And APEC So going back to Nuremberg trials, every single person in AIPAC and every single person who ever accepted money from AIPAC should stay on trial. Cefore X. Plosives: Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I Andrew Rice CT-03: Which would be our entire government. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right, but we need to flush the toilet. Andrew Rice CT-03: What? I was like, there... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We need to get all these folks out. Yeah, that's all it is. That's all it is. We're in the same bowl and we got a bunch of turds just floating around. We got to get rid of all of them and put people like you in place with a different relationship to money and a different relationship to community. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. But the thing that has to be different this time is because, I'm a part of several groups, a lot of them have overlap, but there are hundreds of people across the country that are running. I mean, reasoned reality, you're a part of that. So you know about that. There's citizens, impeachment, encourage for democracy. And so one of the things that I've noticed and like so this is kind of what disappoints me a little bit about someone like Mom, Donnie. He had those 50,000 volunteers help him become mayor. Why is he not using those 50,000 volunteers to help people like Karen Ortiz in New York 12 or Vance Bostic in New York 8 or some of these people in the New York City area that are more aligned with him? We can't just keep electing these people into office and then being like, okay, cool, I don't need your help anymore, I'm here. No, no, no, if I make it into office, I still can't do anything alone. You need to have Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: a power base and you always have to have people that you know will show up because if you make it into Congress and you don't keep that power base and you don't bring that power base along with you, nothing will change again. so people really need to understand that democracy is not a spectator sport. Democracy doesn't begin and end on election day. It is a daily process. is something that requires nurturing. It's like a dog or a Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): instant. Andrew Rice CT-03: child. It constantly needs attention. It constantly needs guidance. It constantly needs supervision in order for it to be healthy and grow. And that's what I hope people will eventually understand is that you always need to be on top of democracy. Cefore X. Plosives: So what is your campaign need right now? Andrew Rice CT-03: Always money. Money is always a good thing. ⁓ So that is one of the catch-22s or whatnot is people who support campaigns like mine and grassroots campaigns, are the ones that don't have a lot of money. So that is an unfortunate reality in itself. But at the same time... these people love that we're not taking corporate donations, but because we're not taking corporate donations, we need these people to step up and give us money. And so it is that weird like, okay, well, I mean, I would rather lose the election than accept a dime from a corporation. And that's just the way it is because I never want to be compromised because a corporation gave me money. But then that does require people to have skin in the game. And so, you a lot of times I try and encourage people, you go to Starbucks every day, you know, skip Starbucks once and give it, and if you're in Connecticut, give it to this campaign. If you're in New York, give it to someone in New York, if you're wherever. It requires everyone doing a little bit of sacrificing. But if you have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people willing to sacrifice, you know, a couple of dollars, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: then each person has to, the more people that are a part of a movement of candidates like we were seeing this year, the less each individual has to sacrifice. But it's getting everyone on board and understanding the urgency of the moment. so, yes, fundraising is always a big hurdle for a lot of grassroots candidates. And then even just getting the message out there. Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: Some of the easiest things that a person can do is repost or comment or like or share because the algorithms, they look for that data. They look to see who is getting more comments, who is watching full videos, who is getting the likes, and then it promotes those people more. Following on social media, these are easy things to do that you can do doom scrolling at night. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: you Andrew Rice CT-03: Find some grassroots candidates and if they post something, repost it for them and get that message out there and get people to understand. If you have friends and if you see someone and you know people in Connecticut 3rd District, reach out to them. Say, hey, have you heard about this guy? Look into him. Reach out to him directly if you can help. Volunteers, there's a lot of canvassing has to obviously be done in Connecticut, but if you ⁓ live in California, you can do phone banking. for people in Connecticut. You can do research for the campaign because I have, however, I lost track, but if I have 40 policy points, we need to know how has Rosa de Loro voted in the past 30 years on some of these policy points. Because if I have the opportunity to debate her or if someone asks me a question about how does this differ from Rosa de Loro, I'm confident it does, but it would be helpful to know exactly how. But it's very challenging for one person to go research, you know, go deep dive into 40 different categories of information versus having one person, you know, 40 people each take one issue, do a deep dive, and give a summary so that I have the, you know, the knowledge base to know how to counter arguments against the incumbent. ⁓ So those are, you know, the best ways of helping. And then. The other way is just staying engaged with your community because at the end of the day, all of this will only work if there's community and if you are unwilling to build community where you are, then it has a ripple effect. In the other sense, it has a magnifying effect that if community in New York can help someone like Karen Ortiz and if someone like Karen Ortiz gets into Congress and I get into Congress, well then I have an ally. So it can't just be one person. It has to be a movement of people all supporting one another in an understanding that our future is on the line. And if we want to see things get better, if we want to see things change, we cannot keep electing the same people with the same policies that will do the same exact thing. But we have to stay engaged and we always have to be educating people on the issues and the fact that there are options this year. ⁓ and then also, if anyone does want to, voting for a lot of these candidates is not in November. There are several states, I think like Indiana, they start primaries in May, in Connecticut the primaries in August, but a lot of these candidates, it doesn't even start at the primary, it starts at ballot access. And so getting people to understand that if you want to see change in your area, start looking now. because some of these candidates might need a signature to even make it onto the ballot to even give you an option in the primaries that happened before the general election. And that was such a rant. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): No, but it's good. I think folks need to understand that it's not that difficult to activate. It's just really not. ⁓ Being able to help. And we understand when people are saying things like, ⁓ the government never changes and all this stuff. We are clearly seeing that we can make that change. Rich people, the incumbent that you're talking about, Rosa de Rosa, whatever her name is, ⁓ the Hakeem Jeffries, all these folks, the establishment folks that have all the money, they move in those circles. We have our own circle. We're a bunch of broke bitches out here trying to make a change. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: Thank Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): What we don't have is that shortcut that is money, but we do have time. And you, if, if you give time to make that change happen, it will, and it can, and leveraging social media is part of it. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm. And so another thing that I want, hope people understand is I understand like a lot of people, you know, have to work two, three jobs. They're tired and don't always have a lot of time, but things keep getting worse. And the longer we wait, the worse it gets. So if you are tired now, imagine what happens if something doesn't change in the next couple of years. You're going to be even more tired and more exploited in five years. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right. Right. Imagine, imagine how things, imagine how more challenging things will be if this knucklehead gets $2 trillion added to the defense budget. Andrew Rice CT-03: and then it'll make it even more challenging. So I don't even call it the defense budget. I call it the imperial war budget because in America we have the two largest oceans to our west and our east and for now two allies to our north and our south. To actually defend the homeland would be a fraction of the current budget because we are just so strategically located on the globe. It's all for our imperial war endeavors. It is all for sending Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right. 100%. Andrew Rice CT-03: tankers and bombs and munitions to blow up Venezuela, to blockade Cuba, to destroy Iran, to destroy Libya, to destroy Syria, to take out any sovereignty that doesn't capitulate to our capitalist desires. It needs to stop. But it won't stop by electing those same people. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: Andrew, you were out in the street, I believe, you posted something, you were out there maybe a day or two ago, and you were talking to constituents out there. What were some of their concerns and ⁓ what was their response to your feedback, like to your response? what was their, you know, what would they say? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Exactly. Andrew Rice CT-03: I mean, the biggest one has been affordability. I was very actually happy that another person was saying climate change because I always feel like climate change takes a huge backseat to a lot of issues. And at the end of the day, if we don't have a climate, then nothing else matters. And then Palestine was another big issue. I was on a college campus, so this is a very ⁓ younger skewed crowd. But the thing I realized is that the affordability crisis and Palestine and climate change, all three of those could be addressed by reducing imperial war spending. Because if we're not putting all this money into the war machine, then we wouldn't have bombs dropping on Palestine committing a genocide. If we didn't put money into this war machine, we wouldn't have all these airplanes and helicopters and bombs that are contributing more CO2 than any other large entity in the world. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: And if we weren't spending all this money on dropping bombs and having tanks, that would be more money that we could be putting towards healthcare and education and housing subsidies so that people could afford more. So a lot of times when people talk about these issues, they can all be solved by just pulling back on military spending and re-diverting resources into what truly matters. And to me, what truly matters is building up our society and not destroying other people's societies because they don't agree with us. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and it would be so much easier to. maintain relationships, or to convince different companies, companies to convince different countries that our way is the right way of doing it. Because look at everyone is fed. Everyone is smart. Everyone is rested. We don't blow things up. We build things up. You go to it you go to literally any country and be like, look, We got it figured out and they're going to be like, yeah, of course, let's do this instead of forcing it down their throats with bombs. Andrew Rice CT-03: Wait, and that's another thing that I've come to realize, because like, I think Hassan Piker got a lot of shit for this, but I see what his point was. Just like, so like October 7th, 1200 people died. That was atrocious. That sucks. But it didn't happen in a vacuum. Hamas didn't just wake up one day and decide, you know what, we're going to kill 1200 Jewish people. No, they have been subjected to decades of oppression and murder and ethnic cleansing and you know if someone came into my house and shot my mom and dad at a young age because I think like half of Hamas is our orphaned children And so of course you're going to have this reaction to people seeing their families murdered in broad daylight. And so for, when, the terrorist attacks of 9-11 happened, those were unacceptable, atrocious, disgusting. But at the time I thought it was because these people hated us for our freedom. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: Decades later I come to learn that that was in retaliation for what we did to Afghanistan back in the 1970s when we were fighting a proxy war with Russia. And so we wouldn't need all of this defense if we just stopped pissing everyone off. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Picking fights, yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: And then we'd have more money for our own people. So it's it's like win-win except for the pedophile billionaire parasites that have trauma issues that make them want to just accumulate massive amounts of wealth so that they feel better for the fact that their parents never hugged them. It's very sad. Cefore X. Plosives: you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and if you invested in therapists, more therapists than you did, ICE agent, police officer, whatever you want to call it, you would find... The resolution to a lot of our issues don't need a jail cell. You don't need a cop. don't need, like if there's a husband and wife that are arguing over something, you don't need to call the cops. Call a therapist to help them work through it. Andrew Rice CT-03: I mean, that I think even goes back to, so again, like, I think we need to fully fund education. I'm a big proponent of education. But our education system doesn't even teach us how to understand the human experience. Like being a human, humanity is beautiful. What's also very traumatic and communication is beautiful, but it's also very fickle. And so in school, We're not even taught how to communicate with ourselves and with each other. And so really having education in understanding emotional maturity and emotional intelligence is just as important to me as math skills and science skills and English and writing skills. We really need to understand how to communicate with one another, because a lot of times, arguments arise from. So a great example about miscommunication. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Andrew Rice CT-03: I was talking to two people about ⁓ Christmas. Person one was saying that, or we were saying that Christmas allows people to get together. Person one said Christmas allows people to get together. Person two was like Christmas doesn't allow anyone to do anything. And person one's like no, no it doesn't. They go back and forth for like 10 minutes arguing about what Christmas does or doesn't allow someone to do. I turned to person one and said okay. I'm going to go ahead and say that you're using the word allow as in it facilitates multiple adults with busy schedules to get together on one day because we all have off. And she was like, yeah, that's exactly what I mean. And I turned to the second person like, I feel like you're using the word allow as in give someone permission to do something. And he's like, that's exactly what I'm saying. So the two of you aren't even arguing about the same thing because you don't even have the same definition for the most simple word in that argument, allow. And that's something that we're not taught to understand. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right, right. I'm telling you, we all use the same words, but we speak different languages. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yep, yep. And so understanding those nuances of human communication I think really needs to start at a young age because that just adds to the whole, you know, trauma of not... Because if you feel like you're not being understood, no one likes that. It's so frustrating. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ it's frustrating. Or not even not even understanding is the next level. Her being heard. Like, are you even listening to the words that are coming out of my mouth? Andrew Rice CT-03: That is very true as well. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Like when I talk to local, when I talk to local politicians and stuff, I say, especially back home in Chicago, I say, why is it that all I ever hear is kids asking for books and a good school and library, but you understand books, school and library as cameras, cops and guns. Andrew Rice CT-03: Mm-hmm Mm-hmm. mean, lot of, lot of, I mean, so that always goes back to, you know, safety. And one of the best ways of creating a safe community is addressing crime at its source, and that is poverty. And if we actually invested more into ensuring that people were not living in poverty, ensuring that we did. Another thing that I learned from people the other day was people want to see more public funding. for community centers so that children have a place to go after school and have a place to hang out and can all get together and not get into trouble. so using the, if policing was the answer to safety, we should be the safest country in the world and we are still not. So obviously just throwing more money at police has not done anything to genuinely improve our safety. Again, it is just that illusion that if you, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: But also, anytime I see a cup, I don't feel safe. And I'm white. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I never in my life have I ever. Yeah, never in my life have I ever. You wanna see me start sweating? Let me be in the car doing 24 in a 25 and a cop pulls up behind me. See how I start sweating. Cefore X. Plosives: You get pulled over, what are you doing? Doing the speed limit. ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah! Andrew Rice CT-03: So I actually got pulled over one time because I was going too under. I was like five miles below the speed limit. I got pulled over for going too slow. And the only reason why I was going too slow is because I was worried about being pulled over by a cop. And I'm like... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Here's a good story. After the military, when I got out of the army, we moved from Chicago to Norwich, which is like, it's a suburb across the street from Chicago. And we had just moved there and I hadn't gotten my license, the address on my license fixed yet or updated yet. And so I go and I stop at the stop sign and I look to my right and I see the cop there. And so then I turn and then I go to and I make the right hand turn into the wrong neighborhood. I get pulled over because I didn't stop at the stop sign long enough. And then he looks at my license and he goes, Sunnyside, aren't you a little far away from home, boy? I'm a fucking veteran. and you're gonna talk to me like that? I ended up getting a ticket for like $8 or something stupid because he knew it was bullshit, but I still got the ticket. Andrew Rice CT-03: Yeah Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Because I turned and I made that right hand turn. I made left hand turns into the different neighborhoods too and been pulled over. I've been in the streets, got pulled over for nothing and got pulled out of the car for nothing. Andrew Rice CT-03: Of course. Of course. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): A lot of cops doesn't fix this shit. Andrew Rice CT-03: Nope. Nope. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If anything, anything, rich and powerful folks, if anything, your kids are coming to the hood to hang out with us because we do fun shit. We do fun shit in the hood. So your kid is going to get fucked up one of these days because your kid can't keep from coming to the hood, homie. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Like that kid who got busted up in Miami for doing too much cocaine. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You see what I'm saying? They're going to get it. They're going to get it from somewhere. They're coming to the hood. They're coming to the hood. Andrew Rice CT-03: ⁓ my goodness, ⁓ my goodness. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. ⁓ Andrew Rice CT-03: Yep, yeah, no, you're right. So I did realize that I gave myself a hard four o'clock cutoff and I bollocked that up. So I do have to start wrapping this up because I do have an event at five. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hahaha Okay, take a couple minutes. Go ahead, go. Cefore X. Plosives: One thing I want to say is that Andrew Rice is behind the scenes, is fighting diligently to make the people in his district better, their lives better. So when they go to the ballots and they see his name, it's just not a name on a piece of paper. There's a lot of blood, sweat and tears that are behind that. And there's a lot of good nature coming from behind that and they have to understand that there is a human being that is actually compassionate and wants to see better for you. So if anybody in his district is watching or anybody in general, realize that this is actually a man that's trying to do good deeds in the world. So take a little bit of time, dig into him and what he's doing. And if you've got some time or some extra money, go ahead and show him some love. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Facts. Andrew Rice CT-03: Thank you. Cefore X. Plosives: We need more of that in the world. So Andrew, hats off to you and go ahead and just drop some knowledge on these people real quick. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, go ahead and let everybody know where they can find you and your last parting words. Andrew Rice CT-03: So my website is www.riceforct.com. All letters, Instagram, TikTok, Blue Sky, YouTube is Andrew Rice, CT3. No spaces, no punctuation. I am a leftist, populist Democrat running against 35-year incumbent Rosa DeLauro. My big three policy points are Medicare for all, ⁓ education funding, and revisiting FDR's economic bill of rights. But beyond policy and platform, there are two parting pieces of advice that I like to give people. One, in a capitalist system that is designed to make you hate yourself so that they can sell you a solution you don't need, one of the most radical things you can do is self-love. So love yourself, love your neighbor. because that is one of the most radical things you can do. And then second is fighting fascism is exhausting, but we can't just fight against something. We have to fight for something. And so I fight to have fun in my life because fun and joy is what gives me energy to fight another day. And to truncate that all, I say that fun fights fascism. So self-love and fun fights fascism. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And not for anything, but 35 years and, and that's a long time to prove that you haven't done a good job. don't, I don't know her. I don't know her track record. I'm going off of the folks that I know from Connecticut, but 35 years and things are where they are now. I don't know. Y'all. I don't know. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. You're fired. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): 35 years. Christ. Andrew Rice CT-03: 35. Yup. Cefore X. Plosives: Thank you, Andrew. Andrew Rice CT-03: Thank you both. This was fun. Thank you for inviting me back. I really appreciate it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Thank you, Andrew. Cefore X. Plosives: Any time. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): The door is always open. You come, you let us know you're always welcome. Andrew Rice CT-03: Well, hopefully the next time I'm here, it will be as the Democratic nominee for the general election. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Let's go. Hell yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Andrew Rice CT-03: Thanks again, gentlemen. I'll talk to you later. Cefore X. Plosives: Take it easy. Bye. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): All right everybody and with that, we're out. Cefore X. Plosives: Peace. Andrew Rice CT-03: Peace.