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Chuck in the Morning 7-30 Hour 2: Drake Thomas joins the show and Spin the Pen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Betch Garber wasting no time. Man, this ball is wow.
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Speaker 1: Go to Oscar Hernandez.
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Speaker 2: Man, I thought that was gone first of all, and
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Speaker 2: then that's the greatest play Teioscar Hernandez has ever made
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Speaker 2: defensively in his entire baseball white.
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Speaker 1: Poor Mitch Garver, not even.
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Speaker 2: Old new Mitch looked like new garb looked like old
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Speaker 2: Garv here as of late, and man, that would have
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Speaker 2: been maybe a game changer. But instead Hernandez makes the
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Speaker 2: play at the wall. Mariners can't rally. They lose four
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Speaker 2: to two last night to the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, it is.
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Speaker 2: Chuck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 2: KJR FM with our special coverage of Seahawks training camp,
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Speaker 2: and it's made special because of our QB one eleven
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Speaker 2: year NFL quarterback Hugh Millan, our special co host this week.
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Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Powell.
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Speaker 2: And we get things started here in our number two
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Speaker 2: as we are joined on our set by Seahawks linebacker
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Speaker 2: Drake Thomas is with us here on the program. Good
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Speaker 2: to meet you, man, Nice to meet you. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, yeah great, yeah. In the middle of
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Speaker 3: training camp. Best place you could possibly be.
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Speaker 1: The best place you could possibly be.
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Speaker 2: You know that I have one of my best friends
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Speaker 2: in the world is a former NFL player, and he
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Speaker 2: used to tell me I hate a training camp so much.
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Speaker 2: I considered wrecking my truck every day driving to practice
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Speaker 2: just so I could not practice. And here you are
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Speaker 2: telling me it's the greatest thing in the world.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think times have changed a little bit
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Speaker 3: since then, like we will do two days or anything
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Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, that sounds crazy, but I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I love.
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Speaker 1: Well it's it's sixty eight degrees out.
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Speaker 4: Because I know it's beautiful. You can't beat it.
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Speaker 5: Well, times have changed your super Bowl champion and just
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Speaker 5: kind of let's let's look in the rearview mirror of
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Speaker 5: of that little stretch. There is your favorite play the
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Speaker 5: interception on the McCaffrey. Uh, that that was so pivotal
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Speaker 5: or is there something from the Super Bowl? What's your
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Speaker 5: fondest memory of that That that playoff run culminating in
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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl win.
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Speaker 3: The Week eighteen San frank game in general was pretty cool. Uh,
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Speaker 3: the interception was really cool, But honestly, nothing top to
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Speaker 3: be I mean, winning the Super Bowl with with this
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Speaker 3: group of guys. I think that that's the part that
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Speaker 3: stands out. You know, you you reach the peak of
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Speaker 3: the mountain and to do it with the group of
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Speaker 3: guys that we did it with, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: a group that really cares about each other and is
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Speaker 3: so close.
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Speaker 4: That was That was the coolest thing.
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Speaker 2: You're not the biggest guy on the team, but do
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Speaker 2: you have the deepest, most sultry voice on the team?
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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's probably just early in the morning,
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Speaker 4: you know, having talked a whole.
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Speaker 1: Lot coffee, raise an octave. Yeah, you know.
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Speaker 2: Relive that play though that he was talking about that
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Speaker 2: play with McCaffrey. I'm sure you've relived it in your mind.
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Speaker 2: How many times have you watched it since that time
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Speaker 2: and take us through that experience.
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Speaker 3: I've probably mean, I don't know how many times I've
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Speaker 3: watched it. Pops up every now and again. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it was a play on the backside of a quarters cover,
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Speaker 3: so I'm kind of like man manned up. He runs
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Speaker 3: an option route and I'm just trying to make him
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Speaker 3: break out and try to basically it's like a race
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Speaker 3: to the pylon at that point, trying to keep him
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Speaker 3: from getting in the end zone. Make it like a
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Speaker 3: catch tackle type of play, and Mafe got a hand
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Speaker 3: on the ball and I didn't know that till after,
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Speaker 3: but I see the ball kind of just hit his
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Speaker 3: back hip and it pops up in the air and
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Speaker 3: comes right into my hand.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, that it happened fast.
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Speaker 5: Once you got the job, you proved to everybody that
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Speaker 5: you belonged, you deserve to have that job. But as
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Speaker 5: we talk frequently about Mike McDonald's brilliance and just his
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Speaker 5: vision of NFL football, particularly defensive football, do you ever
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Speaker 5: think to yourself, I'm grateful to play for coach McDonald
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Speaker 5: because he he saw something in you that that that
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Speaker 5: maybe not all thirty one coaches would see and give
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Speaker 5: you that opportunity so that you could excel in the
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Speaker 5: manner that you did.
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Speaker 3: You see a lot of guys around the league, you
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Speaker 3: know that we are in tough situations going undrafted, and
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Speaker 3: not a lot of people get the opportunity that I
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Speaker 3: that I got. And yeah, so I'm super grateful to
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Speaker 3: be playing for coach McDonald for him to give me
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Speaker 3: the opportunity. I'm super grateful for the entire organization. I
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Speaker 3: got here and I got hurt, and they believed in me,
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Speaker 3: and they kept me, kept me around and allowed me
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Speaker 3: to get healthy and get confident, and really gave me
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Speaker 3: a lot of grace throughout my rehab process to get
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Speaker 3: to where I was, you know, playing like you know,
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Speaker 3: I knew how to play again. So I'm so grateful
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Speaker 3: for so many people in this building and they're their
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Speaker 3: part and and helping me get uh to where I
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Speaker 3: am today.
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Speaker 5: Drake Thomas with us and and uh, you know, as
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Speaker 5: as fans, we love stories. So I'm gonna ask you
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Speaker 5: to tell us a story about a time. There must
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Speaker 5: have been a time, whether it was in practice, in
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Speaker 5: a game, after a game, where you thought to yourself, damn,
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Speaker 5: coach McDonald, like he is next level freaking defensive genius.
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Speaker 5: Something that he did, some blitz he installed, some call
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Speaker 5: he may maybe was in the Super Bowl, what have you. Uh,
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Speaker 5: let's go into mind of Drake Thomas where there had
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Speaker 5: to have been a thought where you go, this dude
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Speaker 5: is at the top of his game just in terms
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Speaker 5: of coordinating and scheming defensive football.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it probably didn't really, I mean obviously,
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Speaker 3: like when he first got here and we had to
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Speaker 3: learn the new defense, it was a lot but a
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Speaker 3: lot of mental just yees a big ball, Yeah, just
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Speaker 3: learning new stuff. But that's kind of with any playbook.
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Speaker 3: I'd say, like you guys to uh, you know, kind
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Speaker 3: of go into like a clean slate mindset and relearn
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Speaker 3: everything from the bottom to the top. But I feel
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Speaker 3: like I don't have like a specific moment that sticks
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Speaker 3: out to me.
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Speaker 2: But just was it that time you saw yourself first
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Speaker 2: string on the depth chart?
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Speaker 3: I don't, maybe, but I'd say, just like when I
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Speaker 3: started playing more and I realized I just started learning
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Speaker 3: more about the game and the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Off give an example, what did you learn that you maybe?
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Speaker 3: I guess maybe just seeing his process on a week
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Speaker 3: to week basis and what he's looking for and why
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Speaker 3: he's looking for that and why he's calling certain things
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Speaker 3: and the more I like I kind of got inside
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Speaker 3: look at like.
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Speaker 4: Why we were doing what we were doing.
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Speaker 3: That that's really I feel like when it started to click,
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Speaker 3: like Okay, he's really really I don't want to be
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Speaker 3: stuff out there, but like just his process and what
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Speaker 3: he's looking for throughout the week to get certain tells
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Speaker 3: and come up with game plan and schemes.
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Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, if he went out there
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Speaker 2: today and said I want you to wear your helmet backwards.
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Speaker 2: Would you be like, I don't get it. But okay,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I went my helmet backwards. But
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Speaker 2: whatever he's calling on game day or installing in the
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Speaker 2: in the meeting rooms, whatever, I trust him one hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: So Drake Thomas is with US Year Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 2: three point three KHARFMS. Our training camp coverage continues, and
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Speaker 2: of course, look, I mean, we watched you last year.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, like, watch you get better and better
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Speaker 2: and better. And at the beginning of the season, I'm
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Speaker 2: sitting here as a talk show host like five eleven linebacker,
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Speaker 2: is this guy really going to be able to hold
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Speaker 2: his own out there? And then every week you just
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Speaker 2: seem to get better and better and by the end
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Speaker 2: of the year, we can't live without Drake Thomas. So
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Speaker 2: you've established yourself in this league. You've established yourself with
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Speaker 2: this team. Many people might also start putting limitations like
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Speaker 2: that's it, that's as good as he can get. What
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Speaker 2: do you feel about where you could still go with
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Speaker 2: your individual playing abilities?
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Speaker 3: When I watched the film from last year, you know
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Speaker 3: I have to say I'm my hardest critic, and there's
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Speaker 3: so many areas where I feel like I can do better.
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Speaker 3: So to say there's a certain ceiling or limit that
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Speaker 3: that I already hit, I think it is crazy because
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Speaker 3: when I watch the film, all I see is how
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Speaker 3: many different ways I can get better. So you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm constantly chasing that every single day, trying to be
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Speaker 3: intentional about what I'm trying to improve and and seeing,
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Speaker 3: you know, where I come out of this thing?
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Speaker 1: Where can you get better? What? What's? What's? What's?
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Speaker 5: Like you mentioned the quarters coverage, you're gonna have to
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Speaker 5: play into the boundary, you know.
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Speaker 1: Stop that Texas route on.
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Speaker 5: The inside, as you said, But then you're gonna have
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Speaker 5: to cover some ground to get out there, like you
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Speaker 5: did against McCaffrey. So there's a burden on on that
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Speaker 5: week side linebacker in those coverages, right and and is
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Speaker 5: it is a coverage thing?
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Speaker 1: Is there?
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Speaker 6: So?
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Speaker 1: Is it blitzeing? Is it? Uh?
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Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 1: Run fits? What?
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Speaker 6: What?
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Speaker 1: What? What? What have you identified?
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Speaker 5: Is the one thing you It's obviously not one thing,
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Speaker 5: but the most important thing to improve.
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Speaker 3: I'd say so in the play Action Past game, we
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Speaker 3: got to play it in those quarters, coverages. We play
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Speaker 3: everything top down pretty much, so you've got to get
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Speaker 3: a lot of depth, and that creates a lot of
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Speaker 3: space in between you and the checkdown. So the one
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Speaker 3: thing that I want to get better at is really
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Speaker 3: get my cleat set in the ground and breaking down
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Speaker 3: on the check down and being ready to come make
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Speaker 3: that tackle when when they throw it.
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Speaker 2: Drake Thomas, our guest. Tell us about Drake Thomas, tell us,
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Speaker 2: you know what, what are your interests? I think a
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Speaker 2: lot of listeners would like to know a little bit
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Speaker 2: more about Drake Thomas off the field.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm from Raleigh, North Carolina. I have two brothers.
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Speaker 3: I have an older brother we played together n C State.
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Speaker 3: He's a receiver. I have a little brother who is
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Speaker 3: a quarterback at Western Carolina. He just transferred from n
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Speaker 3: C State. Both my parents and my dad played college football.
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Speaker 3: I've got married in March. So, you know a.
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Speaker 4: Lot of a lot of this off your life, like
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Speaker 4: you Yes, she does.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of figure.
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Speaker 4: Got a dog at home. Love dogs.
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Speaker 3: Like honestly, Uh, Like, I'm I'm pretty focused on Like,
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Speaker 3: I don't have a whole lot of hobbies off the field.
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Speaker 3: I started trying to play a little bit of golf
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Speaker 3: this offseason. But I really love training. I love wife
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Speaker 3: dog in football. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know
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Speaker 3: the process right there, that's the order of operation. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean I live a simple life, simple life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she is, she is. She good long term with
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Speaker 1: you being here.
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Speaker 3: She loves it out here. It's a great place, great
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Speaker 3: place for her. She you know, the the wives, the
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Speaker 3: other wives on the team, the girlfriends and fiances or
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Speaker 3: whatever like. She's created a great relationship with all of them.
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Speaker 3: So she loves being out here.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna get on hard knocks, you think.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, why would she be on hard knocks?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. They sometimes go to your house sometimes.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 5: I don't mean, they haven't told me anything about it.
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Speaker 5: So who's or is the one? Who's the one teammate
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Speaker 5: that hams it up for the cameras and the MIC's
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Speaker 5: just a little much. There's got to be some.
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Speaker 3: If I can point out one. But the D line
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Speaker 3: likes to put on a show. But the D line's
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Speaker 3: being pretty authentic. You know, they're crazy anyways. They have
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun, But the cameras are all over
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Speaker 3: them when they're doing it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, does Spoon even have another level to go to everybody?
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Speaker 3: He's just him all the time. It doesn't even like
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Speaker 3: he's just entertainment as it is, So he'll be great
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Speaker 3: on hard knocks too.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: Well, man, we've really enjoyed watching your process getting better
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Speaker 2: every day, it seems as a professional football player, and
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Speaker 2: can't wait to see the next chapter in your career.
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Speaker 1: So thanks for stopping by. Have a great camp, have
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Speaker 1: a great year.
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Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate you guys having joining.
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Speaker 2: Us right here on the radio program. Seahawks linebacker. Uh
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Speaker 2: and uh yeah, the voice never did like up stay
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Speaker 2: deep the entire time.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's morning boys. He's got a FM
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Speaker 1: play the hit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Here comes Luther Vandross. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: here's R and B. Here's Drake Thomas.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, we talked behind his back
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Speaker 2: about camp battle and praised him, and then we get
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Speaker 2: to meet him and talk to him about that to
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Speaker 2: his face, and now he's walking away, we get to
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Speaker 2: talk behind his back again, and I just it's remarkable
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Speaker 2: how small he is.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tiny guy man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's playing linebacker in the National Football league
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Speaker 2: and playing it extremely well for a world champion.
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Speaker 5: You you know, I watched the end zone copy because
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Speaker 5: that's how linemen and running backs, you know, particularly in
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Speaker 5: the running game, you will and and so you look
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Speaker 5: at him and he and he wears those small shoulder pads.
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Speaker 5: And even though he looks short and stocky here on
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Speaker 5: the field, he just compared to everybody else. He not
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Speaker 5: only does he look short, he looks narrow. And it
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Speaker 5: must be a losing kind of how he wears his uniform.
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Speaker 5: But it's just, you know, it's hard not to sometimes
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Speaker 5: go like, how is that little skinny white boy to
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Speaker 5: be it? You know, like starting at linebacker and making
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Speaker 5: such plays, you know, And you know, I think that
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Speaker 5: I would imagine other teams when they studied opponent, they
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Speaker 5: they think this thirty two guy, like, how is he
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Speaker 5: so good? Because he doesn't look on the hoof. That's
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Speaker 5: a term they used down in Texas. On the hoof, right,
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Speaker 5: it's some cattle auction type of term, but on the
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Speaker 5: hoof they talk about football players on the hoof. He
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Speaker 5: he just didn't have that look. But well, he went undrafted.
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Speaker 5: I mean, there's nobody that's at the combine saying, got
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Speaker 5: to have that guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody.
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Speaker 2: And yet Mike McDonald sees something with the Raiders, you know,
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Speaker 2: they develops him. And you asked him a question about
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Speaker 2: when did you recognize Mike McDonald's genius as he was
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Speaker 2: working with Drake? I would ask you, I mean, when
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Speaker 2: when you started watching Drake Thomas play football and then
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Speaker 2: watching him improve? When did it with the bell go
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Speaker 2: off with you about Mike McDonald Like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: if he can talk.
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Speaker 5: About about Thomas. Yeah, probably probably took three four games
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Speaker 5: because I because I was I was thinking Tyree's Knight
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Speaker 5: must be hurt, and and because he to me, it
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Speaker 5: was it was like and looking you had you had
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Speaker 5: fifty two and didn't he didn't he wear number forty two?
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Speaker 1: At some point? Did he switch to thirty two? Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Yeah right, So to me, it was like fifty fifty
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Speaker 5: two and forty two, I thought, well, those guys they
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Speaker 5: got some Here's what I thought. I thought they got
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Speaker 5: some pretty they got some damn good backup linebackers. That's
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Speaker 5: that's what I thought. And uh, and.
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Speaker 1: And you know, so Patrick was forty two.
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Speaker 2: He was thirty two in college, so he's thirty tw yeah, okay.
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Speaker 5: So so to me, I was just kind of like
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Speaker 5: fifty two forty two, you know, and and you know, okay,
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Speaker 5: so I feel like we got some pretty good depth
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Speaker 5: at linebacker.
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Speaker 1: But I didn't I didn't see.
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Speaker 5: In preseason that that that he should be taking over
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Speaker 5: for Tyree's knight.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So then when he did, I there was a moment
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Speaker 5: I thought, well, this is Tyree's knight heard or you know,
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Speaker 5: there was a little bit confusing.
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Speaker 1: It took about a month i'd say three to four
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Speaker 1: week weeks into it.
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Speaker 5: You just kind of go, this guy doesn't make mistakes,
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Speaker 5: he's not out of position, he takes great first steps,
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Speaker 5: he's reasonably physical. You know, he's never going to have uh,
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Speaker 5: you know, elite violence just because his frame and his
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Speaker 5: athleticism couldn't allow it. But he can maximize he can.
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Speaker 5: He can be assignment perfect on almost every play of
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Speaker 5: the entire game. And so I think just being in
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Speaker 5: the right for example, do you hear him say quarters coverage.
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Speaker 5: What that means is there's four deep and there's only
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Speaker 5: three linebackers underneath that ball. With McCaffrey, the balls on
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Speaker 5: the right hash from the offensive perspective, that means Ernest Jones,
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Speaker 5: he's gonna have to shave to the three receiver side
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Speaker 5: away from him. That means that Drake Thomas, if he's
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Speaker 5: got Christian McCaffrey, who, if you accept my assessment, is
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Speaker 5: in the top three receiving running backs in the history
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Speaker 5: of football, he's got to guard him. But he doesn't
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Speaker 5: have cloud coverage to the outside. That would be the
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Speaker 5: corner to the outside rolling up into the flat. It's
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Speaker 5: quarters coverage, which means the corner is going to be
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Speaker 5: backing off. He's got to take the what's called the
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Speaker 5: number one receiver, the widest receiver close to the sideline.
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Speaker 5: He's got to take him to the back of the
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Speaker 5: end zone. That means Drake Thomas, what do he say?
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Speaker 5: He said, I gotta I've got to guard the inside
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Speaker 5: because Ernest Jones is shading to the field. He has
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Speaker 5: got to stop the inbreaking route, which some people call
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Speaker 5: it an angle route of Texas. On that option route,
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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey's gonna come up, shimmy on you and break inside.
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Speaker 5: Go back to when McCaffrey played for for for Stanford.
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Speaker 5: The first play of the Rose Bowl, was it against
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Speaker 5: either Wisconsin or Iowa. I can't, I can't remember, but
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Speaker 5: the very first play of the Rose Bowl they run
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Speaker 5: an option route.
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Speaker 1: He takes the inside.
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Speaker 5: And UH catches the ball and goes seventy yards per
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Speaker 5: a touchdown on play number one. So McCaffrey's gonna find
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Speaker 5: that inside, So you gotta you gotta guard that first.
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Speaker 5: Then because you have to guard the inside. Now McCaffrey
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Speaker 5: break into the outside, that's a lot of ground to cover,
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Speaker 5: you know, with a pro pro hash because you're closer
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Speaker 5: to the middle of the field. So so the idea
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Speaker 5: that he'd be able to take away the inside and
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Speaker 5: then still have enough bursts to get to the outside
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Speaker 5: to cover a guy as as dynamic and and nuanced
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Speaker 5: and polished as McCaffrey, and to get the interception out
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Speaker 5: of it. It's a hell of a play.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, and and man, if you're John Schneider and
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Speaker 1: I can even screw up a draft pick. And this
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Speaker 2: He's probably gonna turn him into somebody's pretty good.
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Speaker 5: Let's get some free agent, cut cut guy from the
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 5: We don't think of the Raiders as the worst team,
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Speaker 5: Well and and you know, the year before, it's like, hey,
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Speaker 5: These are my guys like his, Mike McDonald's vision of
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Speaker 1: And I said, if I can.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to turn this into flick the bic or
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Speaker 1: Especially if it has rubber. Yeah, and it's got like
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So on your spin game, dude, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Okay.
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Speaker 2: All right, I think the pen is saying Anthony Bradford.
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Speaker 5: Is that? Who's Anthony Bradford? Remind me who he is? Okay,
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Speaker 5: the right guard of the Seattle Seahawks. I must you
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Speaker 5: caught me off guard a little bit. I'm like, wait
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Speaker 5: a minute, I got the name right, don't I. I
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Speaker 5: just I just wrote Bradford.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 5: I think our p ones are are in the business,
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Speaker 5: the primary ones, the ones that listen all the time.
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Speaker 5: They they know some would know that. I uh, he's
23:17
Speaker 5: been a little bit of a whipping boy for me.
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Speaker 2: And well perfect And I'm telling you, I just that's
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Speaker 2: you saw me fail at spinning where.
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Speaker 1: No yeah no, if if that's where it's landing, I
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Speaker 1: can see.
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Speaker 5: I can see that the pen has been spun and
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Speaker 5: and it lands on Bradford as fate would allow. So
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Speaker 5: I I have viewed him as a guy, big, strong guy. Uh,
23:45
Speaker 5: not very athletic and not as strong functionally through the
23:51
Speaker 5: core and what have you, as his size would indicate.
23:55
Speaker 5: In the run blocking, Yes, in the past blocking I've
23:58
Speaker 5: I've felt like there's times.
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Speaker 1: Where he's given up bull rushes and what have you.
24:03
Speaker 5: But it's it's mainly his feet and and trying when
24:06
Speaker 5: he has to get into the second space.
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Speaker 1: And in zone.
24:09
Speaker 5: Blocking, if if if let's let's say the garden, the
24:14
Speaker 5: center are gonna zone block, So he and Sundell they're
24:18
Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna work together on a defensive tack. They're
24:21
Speaker 5: they're zoning two guys, so one is the defensive lineman
24:24
Speaker 5: and one is the linebacker. And then and it's just
24:27
Speaker 5: those two against those two. And so what happens is
24:30
Speaker 5: is the center and the guard they come out working
24:33
Speaker 5: together hip to hip, and they are they are trying.
24:37
Speaker 5: Their first initial stage is okay, we want to get movement,
24:40
Speaker 5: like two bouncers in a bar throwing a drunk eye out,
24:44
Speaker 5: So get massive movement. But they got four eyes on
24:48
Speaker 5: the linebacker, and the linebacker is going to either go
24:51
Speaker 5: over the top, in which case Bradford could get it,
24:54
Speaker 5: or he could go underneath, in which case the center
24:56
Speaker 5: so they're seeing how the linebacker wants to flow to the.
24:59
Speaker 1: Ball and the uh.
25:03
Speaker 5: Well, when Bradford has to go to the second level
25:07
Speaker 5: to have to release off that double team and then
25:09
Speaker 5: play in space, his lack of athleticism and agility cause
25:16
Speaker 5: him to miss.
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Speaker 1: Blocks and uh.
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Speaker 5: And then moreover, his lack of foot quickness allows.
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Speaker 1: Him to be beat.
25:25
Speaker 5: So if if he's got what's called a three technique
25:28
Speaker 5: on his outside shoulders trying to get outside, and sometimes
25:31
Speaker 5: he will have to go, uh block what's called a
25:34
Speaker 5: five a four technique.
25:37
Speaker 2: Uh.
25:37
Speaker 5: Rarely we have to block a five. But let's say
25:39
Speaker 5: the guys lined up over the tackle on a third
25:42
Speaker 5: down third and long, and so there's what's called a
25:44
Speaker 5: nine technique way outside the tackle. So the tackle is
25:47
Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna fan out to get the the nine technique,
25:51
Speaker 5: and then now Bradford has to go latterly to to
25:55
Speaker 5: get the defensive tackle.
25:57
Speaker 1: Uh. Uh. Then in those.
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Speaker 5: Type of schemes where he has to move, that's where
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Speaker 5: he's been a hindrance. And I felt that for years
26:08
Speaker 5: he's the weakest link on the offensive line. And now
26:12
Speaker 5: we played spin the pen, so I don't have it
26:15
Speaker 5: in front of me, but Pro Football Focus every year,
26:20
Speaker 5: including last year, he Bradford has been in the bottom
26:27
Speaker 5: ten tenth percent of guards every year, and so I'm
26:34
Speaker 5: not just making this up. And so now you say,
26:37
Speaker 5: out of five offensive lineman, there's gotta be a weak
26:41
Speaker 5: link on everyone, even the best offensive line in football,
26:45
Speaker 5: you'd say, well, there's always a worst on every offensive line.
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Speaker 1: Right. In my opinion, it's him.
26:51
Speaker 5: But I have to concede that when the Seahawks go
26:55
Speaker 5: from in their running the first fourteen games, they have
27:00
Speaker 5: two games over one hundred and forty yards, and in
27:04
Speaker 5: their last six, including the three playoff games in Super Bowl,
27:08
Speaker 5: they have five of six over one hundred and forty yards,
27:12
Speaker 5: that offensive line started to gels. He was a part
27:15
Speaker 5: of it. And so I think whatever whatever the anchor
27:22
Speaker 5: that he was to the offense, I feel like it's diminished.
27:28
Speaker 1: I still say that if there's.
27:30
Speaker 5: Excuse me, one guy that you would look to replace,
27:33
Speaker 5: I still think it's Anthony Bradford. But I think that
27:37
Speaker 5: he's improved enough that my concern has not been assuaged entirely.
27:42
Speaker 5: But my concern has diminished a little, because you know,
27:46
Speaker 5: I just follow where the evidence leads. And the evidence
27:48
Speaker 5: leads that the offensive line really picked up. He was
27:52
Speaker 5: one fifth of that offensive line. Now they drafted Bo Stevens.
27:58
Speaker 5: They used a future draft pick to get him, so
28:00
Speaker 5: that that there was kind of a unique target to
28:03
Speaker 5: both Stevens, who was a first team All American. It's
28:07
Speaker 5: really interesting that, uh, you know, when he scout at
28:13
Speaker 5: any position, there's there's kind of two columns. There's what
28:16
Speaker 5: was his what was the player's production? And and when
28:22
Speaker 5: I talk about an offensive guard, there's still production. How
28:24
Speaker 5: did you well, being on first team All American, that's
28:26
Speaker 5: highly productive. But then you say, well, something didn't translate.
28:31
Speaker 5: That's why he's a fifth sixth rounder, fifth rounder. Same
28:36
Speaker 5: with Olua Timmy. Olua Timmy won the Remantin Award for
28:42
Speaker 5: the best center in football at Michigan. He also won
28:45
Speaker 5: the Outland Trophy as the best lineman. But he was
28:47
Speaker 5: drafting the fifth round. There was thought to be, well,
28:49
Speaker 5: he he's limited from an athletics standpoint. So so right
28:54
Speaker 5: now you're looking at a situation where they kind of
28:59
Speaker 5: draft did somebody to replace him. But it wasn't like
29:02
Speaker 5: the prior year with Gray z Abel at left guard.
29:05
Speaker 5: You know, a big difference from first fifth rounder. Right, Yeah,
29:07
Speaker 5: but so I would say Anthony Bradford. Now, one thing
29:12
Speaker 5: that I like about what Clint Kubiek did with Anthony
29:15
Speaker 5: Bradford is they had there was a number of screenplays
29:19
Speaker 5: and outside zone and plays where they would ask pin
29:25
Speaker 5: and poll, plays where they they would even a reverse.
29:29
Speaker 5: I'll tell one play that impressed me. On the reverse
29:32
Speaker 5: they in the against the Rams, they line up Rashichi
29:37
Speaker 5: heat on the left side and they run a reverse
29:40
Speaker 5: around the right end.
29:41
Speaker 1: I get. I think they got twenty two yards at
29:43
Speaker 1: a very critical time on that comeback. Yeah.
29:46
Speaker 5: And if you look at the structure of play design there,
29:51
Speaker 5: you can run a reverse off of almost any run
29:55
Speaker 5: scheme that you want. You can run it off inside zone,
29:58
Speaker 5: outside zone, as in this case they ran it off
30:03
Speaker 5: of power where Anthony Bradford was pulling uh and and
30:11
Speaker 5: staying in at the line of scrimmage and everybody else,
30:15
Speaker 5: all the other four linemen they were galloping out in
30:18
Speaker 5: space to get over to the sideline to have to
30:22
Speaker 5: be the one to be the ones that are blocking
30:24
Speaker 5: in space against more agile defenders. But the one guy
30:28
Speaker 5: that they didn't ask to do the running and blocking
30:32
Speaker 5: in space was Anthony Bradford for good reason, And so
30:35
Speaker 5: I remember saying, not not only was that a really
30:39
Speaker 5: well timed call, but the structure of how they they
30:44
Speaker 5: worked off the they worked it off power left, they
30:47
Speaker 5: go reverse right, but specifically they didn't try and have
30:51
Speaker 5: Bradford playing out trying to go find safeties in space
30:54
Speaker 5: and block those guys. So so at any rate that
30:58
Speaker 5: I would summarize it to say, I still think he's
31:01
Speaker 5: a bottom half of the league, probably bottom quadrant offensive
31:05
Speaker 5: guard in this league. I'll still maintain that he has improved,
31:09
Speaker 5: he was less of a liability, but I still think
31:13
Speaker 5: that that my vision of this offensive line would be
31:16
Speaker 5: that he would be replaced at some point, maybe not
31:19
Speaker 5: in the immediate but hopefully, you know, near future, unless
31:23
Speaker 5: he continues to improve with the offensive line.
31:26
Speaker 1: At some point I'll say, hey, we're good with Bradford.
31:28
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'll flatter him the way that I
31:31
Speaker 2: did Drake Thomas. I mean, we weren't killing Drake Thomas.
31:34
Speaker 2: I mean everybody in town that had a microphone was
31:37
Speaker 2: killing Anthony Bradford for the first half of last season.
31:42
Speaker 2: And there were some video highlights or low lights that
31:46
Speaker 2: really he came off of looking bad. I mean any
31:51
Speaker 2: usually someone like me or lower that's watching football is
31:55
Speaker 2: just going to say, okay, our quarterback gotsa whose fault
31:57
Speaker 2: is it?
31:58
Speaker 1: You know?
31:58
Speaker 2: And then well you wait for the re play and
32:00
Speaker 2: then you see. Now you analyze it obviously a lot
32:04
Speaker 2: finer than what we do. But I'll just say this
32:07
Speaker 2: from all of us, non Hugh Millin's out there, we
32:12
Speaker 2: complained less about Anthony Bradford week after week after a week.
32:17
Speaker 1: He did not show.
32:18
Speaker 2: Up as being a deterrent to what the Seahawks were doing,
32:22
Speaker 2: and so we got to throw him his flowers after
32:24
Speaker 2: killing him for the first half of last season, because
32:27
Speaker 2: he did seem to improve, he'd seemed to gel with
32:29
Speaker 2: the group, and he did not seem to be the
32:31
Speaker 2: liability at all that.
32:33
Speaker 1: He seemed to be earlier in the season. I agree
32:35
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Speaker 2: But one thing that I brought up at the end
32:46
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32:49
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Speaker 2: So I did want to talk about Kyle Shanahan, but
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34:10
Speaker 5: Clean something up, Well, just house cleaning here I mentioned
34:14
Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus. Out of eighty seven qualifying offensive guards,
34:19
Speaker 5: his total offensive grade was seventy fifth out eighty seven.
34:23
Speaker 5: His run blocking was sixty first out of eighty seven.
34:26
Speaker 5: His pass blocking was eighty second out of eighty seven.
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Speaker 1: Where you want to be first out.
34:32
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, and then and then on pass blocking.
34:36
Speaker 5: Just to note that the best grade is eighty eight
34:39
Speaker 5: point six. The median the meeting is sixty two point three.
34:43
Speaker 5: For the Super Bowl, Anthony Bradford had a thirteen point
34:47
Speaker 5: four and for the NFC Championship game he had a
34:51
Speaker 5: three point one.
34:53
Speaker 1: So, yeah, the.
34:57
Speaker 5: Run blocking was a little better. But I still think
35:00
Speaker 5: that there's an argument to be made that he's not
35:03
Speaker 5: just the weakest link on the offensive line. He's the
35:06
Speaker 5: weakest link on the offense. John Schnider just walked by.
35:09
Speaker 5: I could take it up with him, Yeah, I could.
35:11
Speaker 1: You.
35:11
Speaker 2: You know, I should have grabbed him so you could
35:14
Speaker 2: put in your request for a better guard this year.
35:17
Speaker 1: You know what.
35:17
Speaker 5: I think he would agree, but you know that he
35:19
Speaker 5: only got so many resources.
35:21
Speaker 2: But by the way, it looks like he's lost a
35:23
Speaker 2: lot of weight since the last I saw John look
35:25
Speaker 2: pretty lean out there.
35:26
Speaker 1: I think maybe he got a bowflex feisty, he looks.
35:32
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on over there. He looked good.
35:34
Speaker 1: One of those Chuck Norris sliding. Yeah, Chuck Norris, does it.
35:39
Speaker 1: Get it. That's what you do. I can promise, get this.
35:42
Speaker 2: He's glad he's not dealing with this Kyle Shanahan type
35:45
Speaker 2: story in his organization right now. And and I hope,
35:49
Speaker 2: I really do. I'm not wishing any ill on Kyle Shannon.
35:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to find out something worse about this story.
35:57
Speaker 1: I really don't.
35:59
Speaker 2: There's no like of me that forty nine this could
36:02
Speaker 2: lead to the forty nine ers demise. I don't want
36:05
Speaker 2: that for a human being, to find out later that
36:07
Speaker 2: there's more to the story. But the fact that there
36:11
Speaker 2: was something so major covered up about it that Shanahan
36:15
Speaker 2: had to set straight the other day. Yeah, it was
36:17
Speaker 2: my fault. The report was wrong, he said, the report
36:20
Speaker 2: was wrong. It was my fault. I dropped my phone,
36:23
Speaker 2: I drifted over, I hit another vehicle and injured myself badly,
36:28
Speaker 2: And fortunately I did not injure her badly, but he
36:32
Speaker 2: took all of the responsibility. And I just brought this
36:35
Speaker 2: up quickly yesterday. My initial response to it was good
36:39
Speaker 2: on him. And then there's that dark side about every
36:43
Speaker 2: story where you're like, wait a minute, is this a
36:45
Speaker 2: situation where maybe the other driver attorney's like, hey, we're
36:52
Speaker 2: not gonna let you play this off like she caused
36:55
Speaker 2: the accident, so you better clear this up or else.
36:58
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was course responding in that fashion.
37:03
Speaker 2: So I want this to emerge as he had. There
37:06
Speaker 2: was no other wrongdoing. He's cleared up the story, it's over,
37:10
Speaker 2: and he heals his face. But I still think there
37:12
Speaker 2: might be more to it.
37:14
Speaker 1: I like him. I agree with that.
37:16
Speaker 5: I was with the Broncos when his dad was the
37:20
Speaker 5: head coach and he was a high school kid kind
37:23
Speaker 5: of hanging around, and now he's Kyle Shanahan and.
37:28
Speaker 1: He was kyled in by the way.
37:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't change his name, but he became, you know,
37:33
Speaker 5: one of the top by anybody's calculation, he's a top
37:37
Speaker 5: five head coach. If somehow of the forty nine ers
37:40
Speaker 5: wanted to move on, he would spend about forty five
37:43
Speaker 5: seconds on the free market as a coach before he
37:48
Speaker 5: got snatched up, and there'd be a bidding war by
37:50
Speaker 5: fifteen teams to get him. So he's a very accomplished
37:54
Speaker 5: coach and agreed. You know, look, car accidents happened. That's
37:58
Speaker 5: why they call him accidents. So it's not all it's
38:01
Speaker 5: not implausible everything that he said. And we would say
38:04
Speaker 5: that's very commendable if it actually transpired in the way
38:10
Speaker 5: that your initial reaction to it was. But we know,
38:14
Speaker 5: through not just sports, but through life, we know that
38:17
Speaker 5: that oftentimes, you know, we want to be cynical on things,
38:21
Speaker 5: but we also don't want to be naive about things
38:23
Speaker 5: that oftentimes, wait a minute, there's more to the story.
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Speaker 5: And I would like to think that it's just as
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Speaker 5: simple as that. You know, Freud said, sometimes the cigar
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Speaker 5: is just a cigar. Maybe this is just this is
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Speaker 5: just in a car accident. He says, it's a car accident.
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Speaker 5: He said he was fault and it's nothing more than that.
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Speaker 5: And they'll figure it out and hopefully the girls pay
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Speaker 5: and he's going to be yea, yeah, yeah. And you know,
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Speaker 5: now he may have exposed himself to some type of
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Speaker 5: civil action from her depending on on on the impact
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Speaker 5: you know, to her. But undoubtedly he's gonna have to
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Speaker 5: pay for something along the way. But that which is
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Speaker 5: what he should do if he was at fault.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just hoping we don't find anything sister about it,
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Speaker 2: that we're gonna find out more.
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Speaker 1: Albert Preer this morning, I'll say this.
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Speaker 2: On the drive in here on kJ R, I heard
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Speaker 2: him saying that he believes there's nothing more to the
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Speaker 2: story that now now everything has been revealed, So I
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Speaker 2: hope that is the case going forward.
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Speaker 5: Has he dug into that? Does he have a basis
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Speaker 5: to say that? I don't mean because you and I haven't,
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Speaker 5: But he's a professional to say we we think that
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Speaker 5: there's nothing.
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Speaker 2: He's a professional journalist and an insider, so I mean,
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Speaker 2: I would think he's.
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Speaker 1: Not just throwing out at a blind dug it. Dug
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Speaker 1: on it at least a little bit.
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Speaker 2: So we'll see, but you know, we'll find out if
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Speaker 2: there's a there's more to it all, right, coming on
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