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PGA DFS | Scottish Open | 7/08/25 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yah, all system's going clear. The left up?
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  Speaker 2: Who lost my guy Hoopster on the intro? But what's ever?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Everyone? Tyler Temberalin here aka Totag and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the PGA Show. Here on
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  Speaker 2: the ship at Nation YouTube station. You have my guy
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  Speaker 2: hoops to here with me as always a little in
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  Speaker 2: and out there. Actually you guys know how his bladder is.
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  Speaker 2: But we got him back. We got the Scottish Open.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna break down all things as usual. I will note
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  Speaker 2: off the top before I bring Hoopster in. Sabersim is
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  Speaker 2: working on a pretty big update to the optimizer, so
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  Speaker 2: we'll go a little bit of a different style today,
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  Speaker 2: but we're still gonna be talking through it as always,
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  Speaker 2: the process, not just the pick and plays, but going
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  Speaker 2: through the you know, Scottie Scheffler, yacht Sie Scheffler might
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  Speaker 2: be back this week. We'll break it all down and more. Hoopster,
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  Speaker 2: you're here, you got it, you're off. Mute, Mute, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on?
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  Speaker 1: Back connection now? It was a quick technical difficulty. We're
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  Speaker 1: good to go here out of the gates, you know,
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  Speaker 1: barely barely beat the buzzer. It was not a year
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  Speaker 1: in nation at this time. Surprisingly, it was a technical difficulty.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and as you mentioned, Sabersim, they're doing a
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  Speaker 1: pretty big update today, so we're gonna, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: back to kind of just talking through this late. We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk strategy, roster construction, that sort of thing. And it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I like these events that are over there.
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  Speaker 1: The six hour time difference. You know, if you're on
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  Speaker 1: the East coast, you wake up half the round's already
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  Speaker 1: done if you have a sweat. On the weekends, you
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  Speaker 1: guys are typically kind of just teeing off as you're
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  Speaker 1: you're waking up, assuming you get up kind of early.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different, a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: style of golf. And we have some top names playing
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  Speaker 1: this week and then a lot of you know, almost
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  Speaker 1: all the top names playing next week. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: fun two week stretch. Looking forward to talking through it here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one we get the top of the board, right,
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  Speaker 2: we get Scott Rory Xander, you know, the known crusher
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Fleetwood is in the field as well. But it's
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  Speaker 2: a good one and like you said, there's you know
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  Speaker 2: interesting note. Just the weather seems a little bit down
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  Speaker 2: this week. Like usually you get some crazy stuff. It
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  Speaker 2: looks like a little bit of wind on Thursday, but
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  Speaker 2: nothing major, and then Friday, Saturday, Sunday right now again
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  Speaker 2: can change on a dime, especially over there. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: really there's nothing like five to six miles per hour
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  Speaker 2: at most, nothing in the forecast at all. So it'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to see how it all plays out and
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  Speaker 2: if that has any effect on it for how people
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  Speaker 2: play or what they build. Like, but Scotti Scheffler back
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  Speaker 2: at thirteen point one k, Rory in the eleven K range,
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  Speaker 2: it's the only guy at the eleven K price point,
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  Speaker 2: and then Xander down to ten to one. Now after
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  Speaker 2: that they put a few guys what is it, seven
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  Speaker 2: guys in the nine K range ten to twelve and
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  Speaker 2: the eights, and then a ton in the seven. So
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  Speaker 2: I think we are going to have, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: few conversations around that. I see you right out of
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  Speaker 2: the gate, our guy eight game. Listen, we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about this quick with the marketing out of the way fast.
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  Speaker 2: Next week will be a big week with the open,
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  Speaker 2: with everything else that we've got coming. We've talked about
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  Speaker 2: some big news are our biggest news will not be
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  Speaker 2: out next week still, but we will have some big
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  Speaker 2: news next week. There'll be a lot of good promotions
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. So if you want to get in right now,
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  Speaker 2: we're always honest with you. We don't want to spend money.
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  Speaker 2: All of the sports in the Discord, education courses, getting ready,
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  Speaker 2: the entire space. That's what we'll talk about more next week.
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  Speaker 2: But Hoop, I don't know if you have anything else
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  Speaker 2: marketing wise you want to add. But there's there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot going on, a lot coming down the pipeline here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, big things on the rising. I mean we don't obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bullshit about that. Every single time we've said
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  Speaker 1: we were working on something big, it's been big and
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be big. If you are looking to
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  Speaker 1: get in though now, Yeah, definitely take advantage of the
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  Speaker 1: twenty four dollars all access. You're not going to miss
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  Speaker 1: in the door with that, then you're gonna have access
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  Speaker 1: to all the big stuff that we'll be announcing within
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  Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. And very excited, I mean crazy,
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  Speaker 1: you think, I mean football less than sixty days away? Man,
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  Speaker 1: like NFL less than sixty days away. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: the big thing obviously in this industry. We're here to
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  Speaker 1: talk PGA. We're gonna have PGA for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: PGA season, but exciting NFL right around the corner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's if you want to circle
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  Speaker 2: a calendar on your date hoop. And I haven't fully
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  Speaker 2: locked in on it, I said him, like a preview
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  Speaker 2: of this thing. He thought it was pretty cool, the
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  Speaker 2: little imagery we got for it. But August sixth is
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  Speaker 2: what we're targeting. It's exactly thirty days to the NFL season.
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  Speaker 2: That's for the big, big news. The next week there'll
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  Speaker 2: just be some promotional stuff and things that you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're getting in, you'll want to get in early
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  Speaker 2: as possible. So I think that'll do it, Hoop. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna get too much more marketing. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to get in, it's very simple. You
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  Speaker 2: use PGA seventy five. You get seventy five dollars off.
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  Speaker 2: It's the ninety nine dollars planet includes Sabersim, so less
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  Speaker 2: than hundred bucks. You get Sabersim Optimizer, you get all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that we offer all sports, et cetera. PGA
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  Speaker 2: seventy five gets you. It's the ninety nine dollars plan
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  Speaker 2: for twenty four dollars for your first month. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Scotland Scottish Open. You know, some big stuff going on
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  Speaker 2: this week. Shout out to all our members over a
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  Speaker 2: ship a nation that moved on in the Fantasy Golf
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  Speaker 2: World Championship. They got a Round two sweat to get
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  Speaker 2: through it. I think it's a good place for it, Hoop.
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  Speaker 2: I like events like this. You can typically have quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit of variance right in these ones, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to decipher what's actually best because yes, Scotty works,
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  Speaker 2: and it's easy to fit Scotty in. There is a ton,
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  Speaker 2: a ton of guys in the seven K and up range.
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  Speaker 2: They're at seven K flat. There is there is more
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  Speaker 2: guys at seven K flat than there is in the
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  Speaker 2: nine K range, just at that one price tag. So
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  Speaker 2: do you give you an idea building with Scotty this week?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think we need Sabersim to tell you
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  Speaker 2: this one. Who it's gonna get there. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: Scotty with five guys in the sevens and you'll still
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  Speaker 2: be able to get different because there's so many options.
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  Speaker 2: But what are you seeing? What's your first thoughts heading
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  Speaker 2: into this one? The old patent died grand scheme over
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  Speaker 2: you if you will.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be the same thing. We've had this
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  Speaker 1: sort of scenario quite a bit lately, I feel with
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  Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler priced way up there, but then you get
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  Speaker 1: down to a six K range and there's not a
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  Speaker 1: ton that people are gonna like, So they're gonna want
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  Speaker 1: to kind of stop in the seven K range where
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  Speaker 1: they see names they recognize, Like you go down to
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  Speaker 1: the low sevens and I'm not saying these guys are
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  Speaker 1: good plays, but they're they're recognizable names like Sebaz Girard Calli,
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  Speaker 1: Smally Novak got her up, you Hodges, Denny McCarthy. Denny
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy's seventy two hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety nine hundred last week and both.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy two hundred. Is he bad on these link things
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  Speaker 1: or something?
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is what happens with this pricing. You
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  Speaker 2: said there's no five K range for it, but it's
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  Speaker 2: just the way they've filled it up. You played here
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  Speaker 2: last year and missed the cut. That's about it. But wise,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: It's just different. But like Sam Stevens, Daniel Berger, hoy Guard,
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  Speaker 1: Benny On, Nick Taylor, and then you get in the
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  Speaker 1: six K range and the names kind of fall off
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  Speaker 1: a cliff. I mean, you'll find some guys that you
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  Speaker 1: like down there that you can play, but there's a
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  Speaker 1: huge difference in name recognition, and that honestly it drives ownership.
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  Speaker 1: When people recognize the name, they're more likely to click
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  Speaker 1: it than a name they don't recognize, and the name
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  Speaker 1: recognition falls off a cliff after the seventh case. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there are some guys like right at the upper sixes,
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  Speaker 1: like Woodland and Mackenzie Hughes and you know Taylor Moore.
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  Speaker 1: So there are some guys at.
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  Speaker 2: Putnam they count you and I have talked about it's.
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  Speaker 1: The same thing. Yeah, it's the.
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  Speaker 2: Same They just can't put another ten guys at seven K,
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  Speaker 2: so the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be those sort of builds for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And then like if if you don't play Scottie and
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  Speaker 1: you go down to Rory, it's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of seven K guys and then maybe you get in
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  Speaker 1: some eight K guys. And that's just kind of how
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  Speaker 1: roster structure, roster construct is gonna go. There's not a
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  Speaker 1: huge opportunity to play a middling build really, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people aren't going to go into that range. And it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those weeks where you know everyone always asks
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  Speaker 1: can you play balance? Yeah, you can play balance if
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  Speaker 1: you want. Just right out of the gate here, I
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  Speaker 1: have not built any teams like I just don't really
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  Speaker 1: see a strong case to go mid tier like Stepstraca
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven hundred, Adam Scott eighty six, Ryan Fox eighty five.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you love the two V twos and
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  Speaker 1: I don't have it off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like you go Stepstraca and Adam Scott or
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  Speaker 1: let me see, you know, Scottie Scheffler and I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: six K or upper six or seven K guy's probably
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  Speaker 1: pretty dum, pretty darn close in salary. People are just
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to go to the Scotti Scheffler and the
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  Speaker 1: seven K guys. So you know, that's kind of how
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  Speaker 1: Roster Construction's gonna go. Scotty and a bunch of seven
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  Speaker 1: K guys is gonna be very, very popular, There's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Scotty and seven K is twenty one hundred,
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  Speaker 2: or you can play Fleetwood at ninety nine hundred with
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  Speaker 2: Bobby Mack for example, they're twenty k the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I think Fleetwood and Bobby Mack or do
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  Speaker 2: you want Scotty. Let's roll that one in. We do
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  Speaker 2: this early and often all the time. So it's Scotty
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  Speaker 2: and we'll just say a flat seven K guy and
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  Speaker 2: just give you give you the extra hundred bucks. You
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  Speaker 2: can find it elsewhere. But it's Scotty and seven K
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  Speaker 2: versus Fleetwood and Bobby Mack. And let's see what the
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  Speaker 2: let's let the chat decide. And Ryan, I know Kenny
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  Speaker 2: picked up on it. I didn't want to give Ryan
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  Speaker 2: the credit this time right out of the gate, but
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  Speaker 2: there's I thought he was actually saying it one time,
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  Speaker 2: but not even once. He says he is, but he
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  Speaker 2: can't come through. It's got to be about his boy EVR.
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  Speaker 2: But with Bridgeman, people like Lari Kanter, Mackenzie Hughes always
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  Speaker 2: gets mentioned things like that there's enough guys popping, especially
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  Speaker 2: in projections values around the industry that it's not just
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  Speaker 2: EVR there. But yeah, I'm curious to get your side.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in the chat right now, post it in
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  Speaker 2: live and if you want to, if you're watching this
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  Speaker 2: on playback, replay whatever you want to call it later on,
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  Speaker 2: let us know in the comments. Would you take Scotty
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  Speaker 2: and a flat seven K?
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  Speaker 3: Guy?
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  Speaker 2: We're giving you the extra little hundred bucks you need.
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  Speaker 2: Would you take Scotty or you can even put Scotty
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  Speaker 2: and EVR because Scotty and EBR is the exact same
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  Speaker 2: price Scotty and EVR versus Fleetwood and Bobby mack. I'm
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  Speaker 2: very curious to see where people land on this one,
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  Speaker 2: because that's kind of the setup there. Who you're still
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  Speaker 2: gonna be able to land in the sevens after you
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  Speaker 2: start with Fleetwood and Bobby Fleetwood Mac if you will.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and those are probably two of the more I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, not necessarily popular, but people are gonna like
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Mack and I think people are going to be
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  Speaker 1: fine with with Fleetwood. So it could be close what
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  Speaker 1: people decide there. But it is another week though, where
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  Speaker 1: you see Scotty at thirteen to one and you know
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  Speaker 1: over thirteen K, and it's just it's not hard to
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  Speaker 1: play it. There's gonna be a lot of guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you put them in, you still got seventy four hundred
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  Speaker 1: per spot if you do, you know, go this route
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  Speaker 1: and you plug in a seven K guy, be right
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  Speaker 1: back to the mid sevens, and there's legit dudes there
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  Speaker 1: that we've already talked about, and there's more. And then
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  Speaker 1: if you do find someone in the sixth K range,
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  Speaker 1: you can probably start to creep back back into the
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  Speaker 1: the eight K range a little bit. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of flexibility despite Scotty being thirteen K.
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  Speaker 2: I think this event is classified. It's at least like
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  Speaker 2: a hybrid, isn't it. This counts as a euro euro
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  Speaker 2: tour slash mixture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so if he wins, this does account as a
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  Speaker 1: PGA Tour win.
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  Speaker 2: That's where the experts need to come in. Not something
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  Speaker 2: I required to do well at DFS, So it's not my.
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  Speaker 1: Ex co hosted event, so it's like.
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  Speaker 2: A co event. So would it be a technically would
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  Speaker 2: there be an asterix? Is the question for those out
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  Speaker 2: there in the chat. But so let me ask you this,
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  Speaker 2: then let's flip it, because clearly you can get to
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  Speaker 2: that so easily like Scotty. And I'll go further on
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  Speaker 2: that conversation a second, but right now, ownership, you know,
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  Speaker 2: is really early on, but it's kind of really spread
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  Speaker 2: out in the sevens and it probably will be because
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  Speaker 2: there's only so many guys that you can cling to
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  Speaker 2: in the higher stakes in that Fantasy Golf World Championship.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually there will be guys that pull through, as quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote the guys and that'll be the ones that pull.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're not going Scotty, like if you do
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  Speaker 2: go Scotty, it's not very easily to go like Scotty,
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  Speaker 2: and not very easy I should say, to go Scotty
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  Speaker 2: and a couple of guys for example. But if you
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  Speaker 2: go Rory and get those savings at eleven to four
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  Speaker 2: or Xander or Fleetwood, you can really start to stack
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  Speaker 2: up the top portion of that. So who are the
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  Speaker 2: seven guys that stand out in those Scottie builds for
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  Speaker 2: you right now if you just scan the sevens quickly,
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  Speaker 2: because it looks like some of these guys will get
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  Speaker 2: some steam by the end of the week. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: just not sure who they'll be because there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of eurotur guys as well dep World Tour.
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  Speaker 1: I just think this is going to be the range
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of people go. I mean, it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those scenarios where you look at the seventh versus
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  Speaker 1: the eighth and you just don't see much of a difference.
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  Speaker 1: Like why is Adam Scott eighty six hundred dollars? You know,
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  Speaker 1: and he's been a seven K guy. I guet he's
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  Speaker 1: been playing better recently, but people are gonna say, man,
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  Speaker 1: I can just save the money. A lot of guys
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  Speaker 1: to me right off out of the gate look good
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  Speaker 1: in the subs, like Pendrith, Boyguard, Grazer, mid Some JM
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  Speaker 1: seventy seven Neerguard Peterson has had some good finishes twelfth
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  Speaker 1: at the US Open, fourteenth at the BMW World two event.
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  Speaker 1: The other hoguard at seventy five Daniel Berger, who you
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  Speaker 1: know has fallen off a little bit, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: forty six of the US opening I think Travelers was
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  Speaker 1: a no cut. He finished forty second and people be
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  Speaker 1: fine there. Sam Stevens have been playing really well. People
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  Speaker 1: like playing Justin Rose when it's over on this side
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  Speaker 1: of the pond. Despite him playing terrible recently, Thristan Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: Males guy continues to kind of make cuts. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't great last week, but forty fourth pot gutter,
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  Speaker 1: assuming nothing's wrong with him after withdraw Jake Knapp McCarthy,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Kim Hodges, you guy, I mean, I'd be open
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  Speaker 1: to playing a lot of these guys, like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's just my first read at I don't have like
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  Speaker 1: a strong lean on Okay, this is the guy, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm open to play well. I just think there's a
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  Speaker 1: massive difference between the six k's and the seven k's.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I will play some of these six K guys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely will. But the drop off from
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  Speaker 1: seven down to sixth I think is massive. Yeah, honestly, there's.
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  Speaker 2: A clear cut on that sixty nine hundred is like
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  Speaker 2: where it cuts a sixty eight maybe if you want
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  Speaker 2: to give a couple of guys credit there, but after
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  Speaker 2: that there's almost nobody. It's not like last week where
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  Speaker 2: we had, you know, a couple options that you could
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  Speaker 2: like make a case for. There's not really like people
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  Speaker 2: will have their guys because they play on Deep World Tour,
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  Speaker 2: they follow them or their value plays or whatever, but
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  Speaker 2: you just don't need them. But I will say to
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: your point there, and just for others that think this
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: out there, I think it's important is if your reason
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: to fade Scotty is because of ownership, I just don't
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: think it matters because people there's just so many guys,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: there's so many options and ways you can play him
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: that that won't be your problem. Either Scotty does or
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Scotty doesn't. That seems pretty obvious. It's a fifty to
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: fifty shot there. But I'm just saying it's really comes
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: down to that because there's so many guys that you
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: can pile in with them and don't just fade him
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: for ownership because you can get tons of guys. You
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: can get four guys, five guys under five percent with
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: him that are good guys in this field, just that
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: you can't play everyone and other people won't be able to.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: So I think that's a good call real quick. I
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: like the this one from mine for for Fleetwood. If
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Scotty's there, no asteris Yeah, kind of kind of believe
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: that we've got Scotty, Rory, Xander, you name it all
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: in a field like this pumping up for a major.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Got to give him credit, So we'll we'll count that one.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: You know they're talking about the big news earlier. Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: tambo HQ. If everyone I appreciate like sharing the updates.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: We're not making that to do less content. I can
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: promise you that we got some big things coming here
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: at chip in Nation. We're gonna be busy in the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: lab making some more content. And I got one more
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: for you who we haven't done this game in a while,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: full name pronunciation, give it to us.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: One time man that we're now we're going back to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: uh now, we're going back to what's it called the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: live tour stuff? Right?
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Scotti and Eugenio Lopez Chikara, Yeah pretty good? Right, right,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: that's kinda close.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you hear them say like a weird one like
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you Henny.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: The the GJ situation there, but yeah, that was really good.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: That's a you're good you've been practicing or something, because
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: that's good there. Anyone doesn't know his story, it's actually
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: if he's speaking of the live thing, pretty funny is
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: not only are we going back to the live stuff
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: for pronunciations that we had to do on shows back when,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: but he was a live member that brought Yes, he was,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: and he won on live and then he broke free
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: from Live and went out and I believe he just
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: won recently on a like a I don't know what
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: event it was. I have to look it up, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it was an event overseas and pretty sure he got
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: the job done over there. So he's pretty solid man.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: On a side note here, I mean, I've been a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: little distracted, so I've been working hard to get this
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Saber SIM up and running. I do have. I do
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: have a Saber built. The customer service at Sabers is
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: absolutely phenomenal. They got me lined up back to classic mode,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: so we can go through and look at some teams
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: if you want.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you got it, let's share. Let's get the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: first dry run while you pull that up. I'll I'll
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: go through that and yeah, and Ryan said, while mowing
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the lawn, whop has his live pronunciations dueling.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Going to practice. Yeah, I got the road Rosetta stone
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: lined up on there to give me the proper pronunciation
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of these dudes in different languages.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't call it the stone for no reason.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Over here, guys, that's what it is. Hoopster's got to going.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: And Kenny says he's used to Oklahoma's pronouncing his name wrong,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: So I don't think you take offense to however, it's said,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: probably true.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, all right, Yeah, I got this up,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: so we can we can talk through it, and let's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: see what we can find here. Let's see boom man and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just a lot of issues here. We got the stream
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: aer didn't the stream aer didn't update as well. I mean, man, we're.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Where's your share though? You gotta find the screen up?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, man, you know, yeah, yeah, all right,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we're up and we're up and running. So I got
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty teams. We we have it sorted
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: by Saber score right now, so I'm gonna change that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to project it and just kind of see I don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: want to pull up the projective. Scotty's at one oh five,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Rory's at ninety two, Tommy's eighty one. I think this
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: sort of spread makes sense when when looking at these guys,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Scotty projected twelve points higher than Rory. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guess the Andrews down here like fifteen points lower than
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: than Rory, and Fleetwood's eleving fantasy points lower. Let's see what. Yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I usually have it
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: pre but you know, we got got the issues rolling today.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So oh, Scotty, Scotty interesting. I was gonna this is
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: funny because you and I were on this track, we
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: were about to go there. That's what I was literally
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: asking you about. Was Okay, we know what the Scotty
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: situation is, but I wonder how Rory goes out because
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: with Rory being so much cheaper, it gives you access
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to the same pool of seven K guys, but then
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other guys as well that you just
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you're not going to see as many people be able
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to get to if they just go Scotty. So this
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: kind of proves that, right. It's showing us the Rory lineups.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And you can see why, and you can see why
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: right out of the gate. So I pulled up all
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the Rory teams and it really wants a nine K
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: guy in there. It wants either McIntyre or you'll see Fleetwood.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So you've got McIntyre. And these teams aren't possible with
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Scotty unless you dip into the six K range. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Rory Fleetwood, Rory mac Rory, mac Rory, mac Rory Mack.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: We're getting McIntyre on thirty three percent of these teams
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and these are the favorites. It's him, Rory and nine kid.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: These teams are not possible with Scottie builds, so that's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: why we're seeing this. And this is projected score. We
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: can we can change it as we go on. But
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: interesting for sure.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So one thing for the you know, for everybody
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: wondering how did you switch it over to classic mode?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Would be a good quick fix.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: The button so you got to it's right here. So
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: this is the new big update they did. They used
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: lineup groups on new build. You have to unclick this
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and then do a new build if you're having trouble
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: with the new and we're gonna have video, Like you
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: said to kind of lock everyone.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I forgot to mention it, so I'm gonna hit it
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: now real quick. Thank you. That's what I was gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: go to. So just so every ship Nation member knows.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And that's obviously a benefit of coming over to ship
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in Nation. No matter where you get your stuff from,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: if you're using this, you can come over to Shipnation.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: We do a ton of different content behind the scenes.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: We will have a video Jordan from saber Sim is
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: gonna hop on. It's gonna be for all members over
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: at Chippinnation where you're gonna be able to see the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: new update, how it works, your advantage, why you'd want it,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: how it's gonna work for you for your portfolio, et cetera.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: So that'll be sometime this week, probably Thursday or Friday,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna hop on with them all host It's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be open to all members to be able to
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: hop on live. We'll record it and have it for
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: playback as well, so that'll be a We don't do
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a ton of members only video, but with the Sabersim
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: partnership and everything we've got going on with that, we
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: have a lot of new items coming out for those
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that don't know our guy sheets, m behaves on DraftKings
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and crushes on FanDuel as well. A top player in
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the world. He is now doing some Sabersim premium videos
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: for us. So if you're a member over at Chip
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Nation and you're using Sabersim. If you're not at ship
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Nation yet and you're using Sabersim, come on over. You'll
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: get those included as well. Breaking it down showing how
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he uses it to his advantage to win plenty of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: cash with Sabersim. So love to see that and shut
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: up their guy sheets. What else? What else? It was
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: If you go to sabers Score, it's like I switched
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: by a saber scorer and then you the big difference
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you see right here Scotty. Now we're getting thirty percent
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: of our teams Rory twenty five, and it spreads it
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: out a little bit more. Robert McIntyre's still getting in there, Fleetwood,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and then he starts, So I want to see what
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the Scotty teams. Uh, what the Scotty teams look like?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: So Scotty Adam Scott for seven k guys, so a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: lot of seven case Scotty all five seven k's. Scotty
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: sneaks in Corey Connors four seven k's. I know, you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: know Hughes a sixty nine hundred that is that counts
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: as seven k too.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Too many Canadians in that lineup.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot boom boom yeah to them to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: get that gone. Scotty seven case Scotty all seven ks,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Scotty all seven k's, all seven k's Aaron Rant eighty
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: three mixes in McCarty here. So I mean, basically you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: still very similar sort of teams. You're seeing. These Scotty
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: teams are going to look very similar. You don't see
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Scotty with Fleetwood or Bobby Mack, which we were seeing before.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Are they on any of these teams. I don't see
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: them popping up fleet don't see Fleetwood. Nope, he's not
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: on any MacIntyre isn't. It's just it's gonna be tough.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: So that's that's the big difference this week. Like, if
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you want exposure to that nine K range, you got
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to kind of get off Scotty a little bit, you know.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: That's just how what is the price What is the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: difference again between Scotty and Rory. The price difference seventeen hundred,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: So you're getting uppers, you're getting a nine K guy
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: instead of an upper seven K guy, and that's gonna
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: be the difference in those teams, and all those teams
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: are gonna look very similar. But again, the one nice
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: thing though, regardless of which route you go, is there's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: so many, in my eyes, so many seven K playable
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: guys that you're gonna be able to get a little
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: bit different within that seven K range.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it, and that's why we love saber sim
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: That's what the saberscore shows. If you've got a ship,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: a nation member. That's why the Stone. I went on
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: a rant about this in our discord last week. But
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the power of the Stone is it's like playing chess. Right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you have, but that's your get. You have everything. It's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the game board, it's the pieces, it's everything. It's all
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: your pond like it's all right there. You can then
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: apply that stuff over even if you're only doing one build,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: three builds, whatever it might be. The concept is it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Scotty is not your issue this week. You know he's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: coming with ownership. You know, he's very playable. Same with Rory,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you know, he's he's gonna come with ownership, and whenever
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: your ownership shows right now, it's gonna go up on
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Rory because it's or it's gonna be closer than you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: think if other sites are showing like Scotty more than Rory,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: because we just saw it, like when you go by projections,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it's gonna wanna fit Rory. And but the point is
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: there's so many guys that you can get different with
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: them that it doesn't matter about that. It's gonna be
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: You're gonna know. It's whether they come through or not.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Of course, that's what's gonna end up mattering. So so
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: make your choice that way. But don't be afraid of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: them because of the ownership, because you got five other
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: spots still to fill and plenty of options you can
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: fill them with. Now when you click the plus sign
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: on Rory for a second, this is why we do
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: this now under the Saber score, how many Bobby Mack's
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: are we getting.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So the difference is obviously going to be it's going
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to be looking for some lower owned partners with Rory
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because we have Rory at like thirty five percent, I think,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: so it's not going to want to pair him with
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the high owned guys in the nine Carrea, so you're
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: starting to see other dudes. You get a Rory, Adam Scott,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Rory Justin, Thomas, Rory, Matt Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick Ludwig. So it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: trying to end this as a Fleetwood in there. Then
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Bobby Mack in there.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Loaned, right, if you go back up to the Fleetwood
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: one for a second.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Wallas isn't going to be twenty percent, but yeah, yeah
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: think you will. So yeah, you just see it makes
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: things a little bit different. You are still getting Bobby
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Mack and they're quite a bit, but it's wait, no, no, no,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that's uh, that's the pool. So yeah, you're getting twenty
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: eight him, how tong Lee showing up a lot, Brian
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Gerard showing up a lot in these teams. Smally Collie
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Smally and Collie kind of run it does right next indeed,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that might be it right there, seven k flat for
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: both of them, the Smally quality seven k h Schipperuski.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Put in Matt Wally Matt Walla.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get Wally in there and be all said, yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: so the team just a little bit a little bit
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: different here with with Savers scoring again. Then again as always, Uh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you run the contest, Sims, it's probably gonna look a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: little bit to me. Maybe maybe we'll do it today. Actually,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: put in Tongley, you got all the leaves, you get
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: everybody in there.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Man, lots of options. You did have way less Fleetwood,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: though Fleetwood in those lineups. There were six lineups of
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: the thirty eight with we had projected score earlier. Fleetwood
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: was in a bunch Mac went down to Bobby Mac,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that is, with Rory went down from something like eighteen
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: or twenty two or something down to eleven. So twenty
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: eight or something down to eleven. So it just goes
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to show you know, it's gonna spread it out a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: little bit more. But then even when it pairs you
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: with one of those guys, it's gonna flip the which
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: on the other four. So saber sim just sabers score
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: with Sabersim just naturally puts you in a different position.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But if you really want to be able to put
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: it all together, I still like to be able to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: have the stone where I can say, Okay, there's a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: reason I like these lower owned options. What do those
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: look like? And that's why I always talk about virtual handbuilding.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I want Sabersim up. I want the stone up, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: then I want to see, Okay, if I'm picking lineups
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: out or favoring them, what goes with my concept? Is
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it all pm am guys? If I'm doing something like that,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: is it all guys that fit? You know, I've got
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a couple leverage guys with some upside options because we
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: need that or whatever I'm looking for. I think that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: kind of the key, being able to put it all together.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So I like that angle as well. What are you
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: going to next here?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Oh? I didn't run it, but I'll run contests and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: we can just kind of get a little bit of
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a look and see, I have the the Lotto contest
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Shout out to our guy Jordan. He's back rocking the beater.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Was that those Canadian dudes? Oh?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: That was that was That was a good one man
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like that. That video was so class because you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: like the video, you don't see the other side. You
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: just see the dude on the T box and he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: looked he looked like he was in pretty good shape.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, dude, he's about to fuck these dudes up.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: On the other side of this this video, and oh
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I mean to to charge at someone, to
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: get launched into a lake, to start a fight. Just
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: pack up at that point, like don't like go for
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a little swim, hop back in your golf cart and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: get out, like don't come back for more after that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Right, it's oh and he got ultra tossed. Someone got
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: there before I could. But if you just freeze frame it,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: he's a bigger dude I would. I don't know if
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: he was fully in shape, but he was definitely a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: big look he looked like he was shit. Dude literally
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: lifted him and just flicked them like it looked like
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: he flicked them and and he went like matrix through
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the air incredibly.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: It's like the movie scenes, like when they're tossing someone
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: out the front door. You didn't get invited to this party,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: get your ass out of here. You pick him up
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and just launch them. That's the movie stuff. That dude
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: literally got tossed on a golf course like in a dude,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: once you get tossed in the lake, game.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Over it up.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Like you said, just get in your golf cart and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: drive away. Just drive to the parking lot, put your
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: clubs in the back and move the hell on, like
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to continue to come back.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: That was the big mistake there for sure. But incredible video.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Incredible when you.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Get tossed in the lake, time to take a break
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: move he got a pal like, there's no sense sticking
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: around after that, you're just getting embarrassed more.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's definitely the booze for sure. I mean
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it's definitely it's definitely the booze.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Like man crazy too. It's like he went nuts on
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: this guy and it was like just chill for five seconds.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: That is the best part about the video because you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: watch that scene, like, dude, this guy's probably gonna kick
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: somebody's ass. Like, I feel bad whoever is on the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: other side of this dude yelling he seems crazy. He's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: at least in pretty decent shape. You know. Wow, that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: took a turn for the opposite direction, just the stories
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But by the way, contest sims run a lot faster
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: than telling a golf story. But I thought that was
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a good one. To shout out to Jordan for giving
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: us the entertainment for the day. It's an edutainment show.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: We like to educate and entertain So I'm glad we
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: got to talk about that one. What do you have
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: it sort of by here? Now? So you went to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the sims. What contest are you in? Are you?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Are you just a lot of the twenty five dollars
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the big, big guy, big contest. So you do see
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: things get spread out a little bit more. Here have
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it sorted by exposure twenty eight Fleetwood Rory twenty six,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Scotty twenty two. Start to see more of Kywa creep
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: up Tommy Fleetwood's in there, just really spreads things out
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: quite a bit.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Let me just comment on two things while you have
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: it on this exact screen, because I think this is
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: important for people. And again, you can do what you
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: want with it. That's the value of a tool. You
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: can push it around again, Like I say, if you
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: got the stone, you can mix and matchup. But I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: think one thing hoop a lot of people ask me
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: about as well, like all the playerpool size. You're mentioning it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and it's true, it's spread us out on a lot
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: of these guys. It does spread it out. It allows
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you to fit more of these pieces in. But the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: bigger thing to me always is the roster construction, if
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you went through everything Hoop and I talked about, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: we've been into this for thirty minutes. Now, I know
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: there's a five minute golf story, but let's say twenty
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: five real minutes talking golf and ownership and all this
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: other stuff. In Roster construction, there was not a single build.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I remember that A started with Xander and b had
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a six K guy. Any lineup, to be honest, I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: had only two seven K guys. And then I'll look
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: at this very first lineup that pops up, shout out
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to our boy Ryan. We got EVR and it could
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: be anybody. Okay, guy, but you've got Xander instead of
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Rory and Scottie. Then you've got Scroll up to the top,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: SCRW up to the top. You've got Marikawa in the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: nine K, You've got Fox in the eight K, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: then you've got Brian Harmon besz EVR. That's not a
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: bad lineup on paper. That could very easily come.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You can't see that, it can't see the phone number,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: but it's forty two percent total ownership forty two And
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the reason that's important, like if Xander and Marikawa are
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the two that are in contention on Sunday, there's not
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: going to be as many teams out there that have
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that pairing, and I have a huge leg up on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the competition. You come down here to the second team
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: forty to fifty six percent ownership, So it's a high
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: varying sport and low owned lineups can do a lot
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: of damage you just competing with less teams come Sunday.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And it's why I always talk about the power of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: an optimizer. Everyone gets so honed in on the fact
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: that they're only for you know, one to fifty maxers.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: It's like a necessity for one to fifty maxers. Yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it makes the life way easier, It gives you what
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you need, It helps build up the portfolio. Is a
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: million reasons why that is true. But when you're looking
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: at it, like a lot of people just handbuilding or
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: putting it out there, they don't come anywhere near that
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: build to even consider it. Maybe right now you look
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at it and you still wouldn't consider it, but you
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: wouldn't probably know about it if you don't investigate and
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: run these tools to be able to see this stuff.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And that's why and you've done this, trust me, I'm
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: already reading your mind out there. You've definitely sat in
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: a contest that you're not doing well in scroll to
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the top. We've all been there, myself included. Click on
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: whatever insert pro name here at the time, and you're like, oh, geez,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: how the hell did they land on this? And then
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: you look at it and it's like, actually, that's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: pretty good lineup. I don't know why didn't I thought
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: of this, I thought of that. I didn't think of
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: all of it together. That's an example, right, like you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: can clearly see it get there. There's still guys that
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: make sense. There's no real bad names, good projection ownership's light,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: they're constructions different. That's how you find a leg up,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: especially in these tournaments. And obviously this is for the lottery,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to get that aggressive in something
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like one hundred dollars single entry or a five dollars
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: three max or whatever fits your bankroll. But that's a
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: prime example why we like to look at these things,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and that's where some of the confusion is when people
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: are like, well, the playerpool is so big, change it,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: make it smaller. You could take your own player pool
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and then let it give you the best lineups off
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of that you just may be leaving out some of
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the lineups it would recommend based on the other part.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of good things when it comes
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: down to it. But I like looking at it from
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that perspective. Is there anything else there? Like right now,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: how many six k guys, if any, are we actually
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: getting real ownership?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not exactly what I wanted to go to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: because that makes that's important this week for roster constructions.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: So oh, I just want to see if we're getting
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: anything substantial. So nothing substantial, So let's sort by salary
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and we'll be able to see you come down here,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: get five percent of Bridgeman, who I do like Bridgeman
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: as a play I mean, I think he's fine. Ferguson, Yeah, EVR.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Woodland we're getting three, Cantor, we're getting three, Taylor Moore
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: we're getting eight two to two. So there's like a
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: couple of guys that are getting five percent or more
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and then nothing else. I mean, that's just what's going
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: to happen this week. That's how it is going to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: play out. That's how roster's construction is going to look.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And we've showed in multiple different ways when you do
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it by projected score, it's a lot of Rory and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: nine K guys. That's what a basic optimizer is going
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to want to do this week. Take the price break
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: from from Scottie down to Rory, and then get in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: another nine K guy. If you use the projections, these
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: are Sabers projections, it's going to be a lot of
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Rory Fleetwood, a lot of Rory Bobby Mack. And that's
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: just strictly by projected score. That's what optimizers are going
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to want to do this week. And it makes sense.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It does make sense because you know, I think those
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: guys are in pretty good spots, Bobby Mack. And then
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you're getting an upgrade from guys in this range, the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: seventy nine hundred guys, the low eight K guys, you're
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: able to upgrade to these dudes up here Fleetwood, Bobby Mack.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And then you know, even if you like some of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the other ones, Thomas Hovlam, whatever it may be, you
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: just can't get those teams. You can't. But it would
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: be you did again have to have to go in
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: to sixth grade range. If you went Scottie and Fleetwood,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you're down to sixty seven hundred, So you're playing probably
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a couple six K guys to get back into the
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: seven K range. So that's why you know, roster construction
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: is going to look that way this week.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And this is another key point then I want to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: do well. After this, we'll just discuss the nines in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the eighths a little bit. Take questions go through, because
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I just want to talk about these dead zones and pockets.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: They're basically same thing backwards, but real quickly on that
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is like the sixty eight and sixty nine hundred, the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Tailor More, the EVR, the Jacob Bridgeman, those are the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: guys we talked earlier. Those are seven K plays. They
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: just happen to say sixty nine or sixty eight hundred.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: But every version we build, contest sims, saber score projections, whatever,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: none of them are using six K guys. So this
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is key to remember as well. And I've you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: learned this the hard way, as I've learned many things
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the hard way, and my time playing DFS is this
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: is what I try and harp on and explain to people.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Everyone has their like diamond and the rough guy down low.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: This proves why you don't need it. First of all,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: none of these bills will require it. That doesn't mean
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: that they can't happen. That's just saying they don't require it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: If everyone, no matter how you think they're building by hand,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: by projection, by saber, score, by contest sims, whatever you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: think they're using, and that's at all optimizers on every site,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: every projection set, whatever. If they're not using it, it's
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: a reason why it's an added piece to why you
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: don't need to use it either, because even if you
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: get it right, you're probably not gonna commit enough lineups
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to it. And so then even if you have five
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: ten lineups that you went with it, you only have
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: so many outs of finding the right other five or
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: four guys whatever it ends up being. If you hit
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: on two of them or one of them, four or
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: five guys left over that you need to hit on.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And again that's what we always talk about it, like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: when people keep going on about this, man, if the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: optimal keeps showing up at forty thousand every week, what
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: are you gonna do. You're gonna go build forty k
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: lineups and your optimizer and just pray you hit the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: net the nuts look at the optimals, You're never getting
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: to those you don't have to worry about that. You
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: have to worry about what everybody else is doing and
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: how you beat them. Making the best lineup is the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: right way, but getting to the optimal and golf is
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: just silly. Right. They're just people throwing it out there
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to give you a heads up that that's what it was.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: There's tons of different ways you can build. We showed
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: three different ways already, not one of them required anyone
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: less than sixty eight hundred. For the most part, go.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Ahead, and you don't. And even on those weeks where
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the optimal comes out, is that, like that's not winning GPPs.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Like no one's playing those storts teams. It's not like
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that that's the winning team in these contests. It's just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like that would be that. So like, yeah, you can't
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: build that way. You can't build to unless you I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: mean unless there's a ton of guys you like, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: maybe certain events it is just super random, but especially
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: at an event like this with like the high end
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: guys like it just makes no sense to even get
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that in your head.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is like I know Kennings's Jabin, but
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: it's like too much credity in but most people don't
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: think at all. But you know, same thing like he's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: talking about. For some of the big dogs just hit
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: optimize an important round two. Yet we certainly we have
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a full course etchemination dot com hoop myself recorded for PGA.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: There's a whole segment on this. I thought I coined
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the term and trademarked it. By the way heverage in
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: round two. I want to play heavy leverage because a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: lot of people just go with what worked in round one.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: The optimal ended up crushing by the way, like you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: for the most part versions of the optimal, even though
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Ben Griffin lineups still cleanly got there with three of
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: six is four sixes et cetera. Because a lot of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the other stuff hit, but week two is not a
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty three percent moves on those optimals will
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: really be hovering in a lot of cases around that
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: top fifty lineup and spot and more so, I kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of want to be in or out in week two,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and I think the leverage way is the way to go,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: especially if we have multiple entries. At least get one
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: lineup out there that has it, but a lot of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: people will just click that button. I'm talking more to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the newer players or the people that are coming on,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you know, just getting into golf or you know, learning
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: strategies and stuff. A lot of people want to go
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: with their picks and their guy down low. I you know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I heard good things about I don't know who's who's
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: down here, whoever, Richie Ramsey over on the DP World
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Tour or Matt Fitzpatrick's brother, Alex Fitzpatrick. I need to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: play that guy. They never commit enough, they don't play enough,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: they don't do anything with that for MM stuff. So
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: they end up wondering why it didn't work out and
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: just another min cash or a missed cash if you will,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and either either of those options. And the setup is
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: because they're they're overthinking on you know, if I get
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the diamond in the rough right, I win. That's just
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: not how it works. Even if you get it right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: there's no guarantee that's gonna happen. So yeah, this was
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the other thing like a lot of three or six surviving.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: But even though those Ben Griffin lineups had I don't know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: outside of Putnam and Smalley and Kim and Girard, that
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: was kind of the four pieces that busted but everybody else,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the Hubbards, the Hodges, all those guys, the use all
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the other chalk pieces found their way to the top.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's the way it goes. This
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: week will be interesting though, because the Scotty effect the
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Rory effect. It looks like Rory will be the guy
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that people start with and are able to fit it in. Yeah,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Grio was thirty five percent in that there was a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: bunch of lineups. I showcased it in our discord. But
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: who any anything else on guys at the bottom. If not,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I think we'll end this out talking about the pockets,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: because it looks to me like nine K will have
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: some spread ownership, eight K will have some really low
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: owned guys because it's just really hard to get to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the eight K. So let's talk about that, and then
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I also think there's something to be said for that
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: upper seven K range, like d Tree and Grazermen and
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: those that maybe Grazermen and Hoguard get a little bit Pendri.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know who it'll be, but I'm just saying
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: right now it looks like more people will have to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: land in that bottom seven K range to get those
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Scotti lineups to work or even in those Rory builds
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: we saw that used one of Fleetwood or Mac it
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: skips the eight k's it lands in the seven. So
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is there any thought process around that you can start
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: in the nines if you want, just what you could
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: go through the Yeah.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean based on what we're seeing here and with
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: those teams we built, you know, Tommy Fleetwood, Robert Mack,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I do believe our you know, are the two that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: people go to. You know, we're showing right now twenty
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: five percent for Fleetwood, thirty percent for Bobby Mack. And
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Moricow is getting a little but like this
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: range here, like Ludvig and you know, lou Vig, I
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: think in JT and Sam Burns have a chance to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: go a little overlooked. The Morikawa is stuff. I don't know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's still tricky for me. I mean we did
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: finish eighth at the Rock and Mortgage, you know, super
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: weak field event, but man just really have not needed
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: him this year. Louvig has not been good. JT played
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: well last time out, but it has not played ball
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: at this course. But Sam Burns is a guy I
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: think that is interesting. Nine K flat been playing well.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: He is a streaky guy. He's been top twenty and
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like seven out of eight events, maybe
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: eight out of nine. He's like a run hot, run
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: cold sort of guy's running hot right now. So I
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: do kind of like him. I do kind of like
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Victor and I do. I do like Fleetwood and Bobby
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Mack as well. The eight k range is somewhat interesting
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: because you look at it. I think a lot of
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: these guys could easily be in the sevens, like, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they're in the eight range. It's just this range to me,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: has to get forgotten, and ownership is kind of saying that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I mean Corey Conners seven percent, Matt Fitzpatrick nine. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: think he ends up getting a little bit more. He's
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: playing better strack of five. Like, no one in this
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: range is above ten percent. I do like I do
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like fits. I think Harry Hall's fine, JJ Spawn's fine,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: But like Wyndham Clark, why is Wyndham Clark in the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: acre and he's gonna get ownership, So maybe a big,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: big leverage op play there. So I don't know. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily love this range, but everyone is pretty low own.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: We already talked about the sevens. I do agree with you.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Some of these guys at the top do you have
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a chance to get squeezed. But there's just a lot
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: of guys here in the seven K range, and I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: plan on playing a lot of them.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really the top of the range. Like you mentioned,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: if you like Taylor Pender, if you like d Tree,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: if you like Sung JM who you know, it's probably
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: time to just you know, pack that in, to be honest.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But he did finish fourth year last year, so maybe
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that's a sign. But I don't know. It's been so bad.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: The main thing I was thinking up top is it
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: looks like Morikawa justin Thomas and maybe even Sam Burns
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: go a little bit overlooked, because well Burns would make
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: sense and everything you said about him is good. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: think when people are already on Bobby Mack and then
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: if people when I should say when people get to
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the eight K range currently, and I see it on
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: paper as well, it looks like Fitzpatrick, Scott and Fox
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and Uel Fox is like a Lynx history guy. Scott's
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: got some good history and priced right, and then Fitzpatrick.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It looks like more people land there, which makes cept Straka,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Harry Hall. Guys like that that are just above and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: below and squeezed in between those. They're pretty interesting for upside.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: You know what you're getting with them, and it can
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: be very boom bust. But in these tournaments and especially overseas,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: where you can have some of this variants play out,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I think those are going to be intriguing options when
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: we get to building tournament lineups, or especially in larger fields.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I should say, like in smaller fields, I get you
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: might not have to take on full risk. You can
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: just build differently. Aaron Raie, I don't know if he'll
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: end up picking up steam or not. Can't be everyone, though,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: he's a guy always like especially when over here. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: think he won it twenty twenty. I think it's been
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: here since twenty nineteen, fourth year, last year, so maybe
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: he picks up a little bit of steam. What about
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: JJ Spahn, Harris English, Mav McNeely, any of those guys
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Mcneely's my favorite, and I'm typically a McNeely guy. Like
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: he's had some good finishes in tougher events. I mean,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you look at the memorially finished man. He has not
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: played much. If this is updated on DraftKings, Memorial US Open,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and then Travelers finished seventeenth. He's probably my favorite spawn
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I'd be good with. I would just probably prefer to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: play these guys in the lower eights than the oppers.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Just saved the money and kind of move on. Harry
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Hall is an interesting one though for me, because it
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: seems like he's kind of turned his game around, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you know, he does play in some of these weaker
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: field events Rocket Mortgage, you know, RBC Canadian was pretty weak.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: But he's twenty fifth or better in five straight events,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: six straight events, so I do have interest in him.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Tom Kim with three miss cuts in his last five events,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a thirty third and a forty fourth coming in but
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: he's finished third, sixth, and fifteenth here, so maybe that's.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, But he's like a different golfer this year. Man,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: he's been really really bad. He is showing nothing. He
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: is showing nothing, very very bad.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Anybody else you want to mention or bring up. You
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: guys have questions, you can throw them into the chat.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We'll obviously cover those throughout. Somebody asked earlier about leaving
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: money on the table. I don't know that you need
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to here, obviously you can leave thousand bucks, leave whatever,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: but you just don't see it doesn't look like it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean you can always make the case.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you're leaving the thousand on the table,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: it's going from matv McNeely down to uh, you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know our smally colleague Gerard somewhere in that range. Like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: can those seven K guys outscore matth McNeely. Yeah, sure,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like that could be it. But you know it's tough
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: to like just actively go out and say I'm leaving
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: this chunk, like make it make sense if you're doing it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got her up is coming in with all these
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: top twenties or whatever, but our top thirties, I guess
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I should say in the twenties. I see him getting
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: a little love at seventy one hundred.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of guys, I mean, a lot
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of seven K guys. People love playing Kevin you he's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: been playing well. I mean, there's just there's so many, Dude,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Enny McCarthy, I mean, honestly, it's probably we you know,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: kind of gotten rid of the bit, but that seems
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: seems like a very disrespectful price. I mean, guy like,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy seventy two hundred, I'd say, you know,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: he's definitely the leader in the clubhouse for most disrespectful
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: price tag on the sleigh.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to see, like, who else would even coincide?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Where is Sam Stevens at?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah? He I love Steven Stevens has been my boy.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: So he's seventy four hundred.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: What was was he ninety three hundred last week?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Or he was out there three he was eighty three?
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry because he was the Hunter bucks less than Pierson Cootie.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I remember this quite vividly obviously, as many will know.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: But the yeah, so Denny went from ninety nine hundred
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: down to seventy two with what an eleventh place finish, Yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and again has nothing really to do with It's just
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: funny how the pricing works and the odds and all that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: But Sam Stevens finished outside the top, just outside the
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: top twenty, went from eighty three to seventy four and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: stayed high than Danny McCarthy drop it down there. So again,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: totally different course, all these you know, et cetera, et ceteras,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: et ceteras. But you get what I'm saying it's just
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: looking at stuff like that. It's sometimes interesting just to
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: see and get a feel for the ranges. But yeah,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of guys you could go to
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: down here. You know. Someone said, what is your thoughts
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: on this that you know Jasncher exactly which way he
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: means it, Like, if people are gonna be Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're necessarily going to be lazy. It's
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: just like I don't know these guys all that well,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna come on here and pretend to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: be an expert for the you know, World Tour golfers.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not an expert, and a lot of these guys
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: have no clue who the hell they are, So I
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: think it's just be I don't think it's necessarily lazy.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: It's just like we don't we don't know them. And
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when these guys do step up
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: and play PGA Tour type guys, they get their ass
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: kicks like it might look good on the World Tour,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: but then they step up and play a real field
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and they get absolutely destroyed. So it's hard. I don't
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: think people are going to be well versed on all
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: these guys. There's no doubt about it. So if you
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: do follow the deep world to or I know these dudes,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: probably you know, maybe have a little bit of a
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: leg up this week. I don't know, it's tough. I'm
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: not going to pretend to be an expert on those dudes.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess that's you know, same take as
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: always for me. Is what comes down to is like
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: some people know a ton about the golfers. Some people
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: know a ton about the golf course, some people know
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a ton about I don't know the TMZ of the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: golf world and all the events that are going on
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes on Instagram and all this all I
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: care about, and I think all you should care about
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: and why we make this show the way it is
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: is about the DFS side. The other stuff is good entertainment.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Keep it in your diet, you know, check it out,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: learn about it, figure it out, what do you like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Listen to what you like out there. But all I
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: don't care about any of that stuff. I just care
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: how to win the most money possible in DFS tournaments.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: And everyone always thinks that's the answer, but there's a
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: million ways I could swing it that It's actually not
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the end result. Is the six golfers that show up
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: on your lineup, but a lot of it, and people
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: will tell you this, you know, are all of our
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: guys over at the ship and Asian discord is the
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: process putting the puzzle together, figuring out if this then
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: that when you start to put that together, that's what
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: landed you on those spots, and then those guys end
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: up becoming the product of the results. So I definitely
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: think they can contend. This guy will probably pick up steam.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: But like one example would be to hoops point, whether
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know about them or don't, I definitely think you
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: can do some research on these guys in the back end.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: A guy like Thomas Dietree, who he you know, he's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: been playing a bunch on the PGA tour anyway and
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: moved over. But I'm just saying I care more about
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: someone like him finishing twenty third at the US Open,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: eighteenth at the RBC Canadian you know, a top thirty
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: at a signature, which is the true it's not the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: worst results with big boy events, tough fields, tough courses,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: all that. Then being plugged down at seventy eight hundred,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: We'll see, you know, when other people go with other
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: guys around him. I'm just saying that's an example where
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I'd feel more comfortable then the person like I just
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: gave a random example earlier. But the people that are like, oh,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Alex Fitzpatrick, he's Matt Fitzpatrick's brother, He's technically done this.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: He could be good because of the It is like
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: when you're just trying to pick your spots that way
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and make a stand, then if it works for you, great,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: but you just need so many other things to go
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: your face in your favor on top of getting that
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: guy right. There's a ton of ways to get different,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: as we showed you throughout the show, where you don't
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: even have to touch that stuff and add extra variables
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: into your mix.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, nothing really add I mean, I mean again, Yeah,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the people that follow the DP world too are on
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: a weekly basis, they're going to know these guys a
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: little bit better. But that does not necessarily mean that
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the good dudes on the DP World two are going
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to do good this week. We've seen it time and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: time again, where again they play the higher level of
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: talent and they get their asses handed to them.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jason's right, I'm just saying yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, certainly, yeah, certainly. No, I'm not disapeating that
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: they definitely do. And again, if if you follow the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: DP World two, you're going to know some of these
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: guys a little bit more in the strengths and weaknesses
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: of their games.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I definitely think you should be researching them and figure
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: them out, know about them and that sort of stuff.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: But in some cases it also ends up being like
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, you could have a four DP World
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Tour players that moved over to the PGA Tour, but
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: they know the lay of the land, they've played these
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: courses more that sort of the style they grew up on.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Whatever it might be, all those things can work in
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: their favor when the time comes down to it. I
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: just I just always like to focus on the fact
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: that you know it, you know, picking and choosing the
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: guy if you're doing it. If you're doing that, I
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: definitely like to pick some of the guys that you're
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you're comfortable with and take stands on them, because then
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: at least you'll be in the position that if you
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: are right on your pick on your your guy you
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: want to roll with, at least you'll have shares and
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: enough to be able to make it happen. Kenny's adding
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: all the content in here today. You know he's extra
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: dial with three seats. Congrats again to Kenny getting all
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: three of his seats through. He's used to play in
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: one lineup, but he did quite a good job playing
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: those three and now this week a great chance to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: get to the Live finals. Says feel like the higher
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the buy in, the lower the ownership on the euro guys.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: But maybe that's misguided. No, I think that's probably right
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: for the most part. I mean, people just there's gonna
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: be so many other options that pop. Unless again, it's
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: all how you classify it. Like Fleetwood and Bobby Mack
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: are European descent, but they're not euro players. They play
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: on the PGA Tour. So really something to think about there.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: But you know, he mentioned because the uncertainty, and it's
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: not what he was insinuating, just to note it. I mean,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: it's you're gonna players like I mentioned with Dtree and
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: those guys. They're European players, but I don't classify them
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: as like the DP World Tour guys because clearly they're
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: not those guys. To Kenny's point that our DP World
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: tour guys will be extremely low owned because of the uncertainty.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: People won't be able to trust it for sure.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Frank's a good point too, not not really true.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Link style golf only three les next to the sea,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: So I mean again, factor those things in when you're building.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: If other people are putting you to all links golfers
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and that's your stand because technically you're in on that,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I think that would be where you could say, hey,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna avoid some of that. And if I see
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: so and so getting ownership just because he's really good
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: on links courses, maybe and looks the wind is down
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: this week that we saw for three days as of
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: right now, all these other factors, maybe that's where you
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: start making your decisions. But I think I think it's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: a good dslate. I definitely like it for for many
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: reasons that we talked about. And I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: or right down to single entry one lineup, like a
• 53:08
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• 53:11
  Speaker 2: there's a ton of ways to get different hoop and
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: we touched on majority of it. Is there any final
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: thoughts you have before we get out of here.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: No, I mean it's fun style golf. You know, time change.
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