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Cubs land Bregman, Bellinger done w/ Yankees? Max Kepler's PED suspension, Freeman withdraws from WBC · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Always feels like a lot's happening.
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Speaker 2: Things are busy, of course news but you had a
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Speaker 2: busy weekend.
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Speaker 1: I had a busy morning.
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Speaker 3: The Nigerian Prince.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't want money. He wanted my body.
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Speaker 1: They didn't want money.
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Speaker 2: First time I ever entertained a scam call because they
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Speaker 2: didn't ask for money.
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Speaker 1: They just wanted me to show up at the what
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Speaker 1: is it.
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Speaker 3: Called clerk usually the clerk of the courts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they wanted me to do. They wanted
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Speaker 2: me to drive over to the clerk of the courts
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Speaker 2: and I was like right now and they were like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you miss Jerry, dude, can you sign this thing?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, can you sign this thing?
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Speaker 1: Well, they were more eloquent.
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Speaker 2: They had all the case number, this, that, whatever, all
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Speaker 2: my information besides socials, so they were pretty buttoned up.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, you don't need money. They're like, no, no,
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Speaker 2: we need you to show up to sign a thing.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean I do taekwondo krats, So
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm ready.
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Speaker 4: Is that how the White Sox are going to get
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Speaker 4: a free agent? They're calling them and scamming people will
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Speaker 4: be like show up at Chicago at the stadium, and
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Speaker 4: we'll give you many American monies to play the game
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Speaker 4: of baseball.
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Speaker 3: Ah, got you? You signed it?
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Speaker 1: That's rude.
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Speaker 3: We have a Sean Newcomb's coming on today and he's nice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. We have a white Sox player. Actually, we've
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Speaker 1: had almost all of them besides Murakami. I mean, Anthony
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Speaker 1: Day was on the other day.
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Speaker 3: How do we get Murakami?
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Speaker 2: It's all you I heard you're the Markammi whisper. Where
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Speaker 2: you're going to be? What if he shows up and
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Speaker 2: he's like, they're like favorite white sock and he's like
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Speaker 2: Perzinski should be, then you're in should be like Harry Ford. Henry,
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Speaker 2: Harry Henry's the truck guy, the Ford guy. All Right, anyway,
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Speaker 2: I'm on low sleep.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to a little bit of news. They did it.
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Speaker 1: Do you see this shirt?
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Speaker 3: I know, I can't believe you're wearing that North Side Territory.
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Speaker 1: The cub did it.
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Speaker 2: It's the great show, by the way, should check it
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Speaker 2: out or the merch Alex Bregman is a Chicago Cup.
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Speaker 2: How shocked were you and you were in Chicago on
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Speaker 2: the scene. We almost went live to Pruzinski on the
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Speaker 2: scene in Chicago and.
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Speaker 3: Soldier Field and snow Yeah Live to AJ watching those
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Speaker 3: Packers lose and then crying about it. Poor guys. I
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Speaker 3: didn't really this didn't really come out in the stadium
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Speaker 3: until the game was kind of over ish, and so
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Speaker 3: then people as were as I was walking out, because
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Speaker 3: if you've never been to Soldier Field, you got to
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Speaker 3: walk out like two miles to get anywhere because we
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Speaker 3: didn't park, we didn't drive a car at a car service,
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Speaker 3: so you have to walk like forever to get out,
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Speaker 3: and that people were kind of clamoring about it as
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Speaker 3: we're walking. Then I just checking my phone and I
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, wow, this is pretty awesome. But you know,
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Speaker 3: the Bulls won, the Blackhawks one, the Bears one, and
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Speaker 3: the cub signed Alex Bregman in like a twenty five
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Speaker 3: minute span. So it was a pretty pretty cool moment
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Speaker 3: to be in the city of Chicago and people were
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Speaker 3: very excited. Listen, I love this song. It's a lot
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Speaker 3: five one seive. What do you do with Matt Seawan?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 3: Do you trade them? Do you make them a super
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Speaker 3: utility guy? What do you do there?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Trade Matt sha so young?
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Speaker 3: Okay, do you trade Nico.
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Speaker 1: Horner, then I wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: There's a great article by Northside Territory hosts Jadeve Sharman
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Speaker 2: in The Athletic about why they should.
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Speaker 1: Just roll with it.
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Speaker 3: I agree, Listen, I think they're finally act. This is
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Speaker 3: finally a move they act like a big market team.
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Speaker 3: So I love this move for the Cubs. And that's
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Speaker 3: hard for me to say, as everyone knows he brings leadership,
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Speaker 3: he brings defensive third, he'll hit you some homers, and
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Speaker 3: from everything you've talked to hear from people is he
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Speaker 3: makes every player better, a younger players, better, veterans player
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Speaker 3: because of his preparation and the way he teaches people
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Speaker 3: what he looks for. So this is a great move
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Speaker 3: for them, and the congratulations code fans. He actually Cubs
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Speaker 3: actually are acting like they're the Cubs, and this is
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Speaker 3: a move that they did that. And to me, I
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Speaker 3: think with the moves they've made Drenth in the bullpen,
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Speaker 3: adding rotation, and now you add Bregman, there's got to
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Speaker 3: be the favorites in the central Really, people say the Brewers,
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Speaker 3: the Brewers, the Brewers. Yeah, this move, the moves they
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Speaker 3: made with Hunter Harvey and some of the other bullpen
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Speaker 3: moves they made, and then strengthening some positions like benchwise.
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Speaker 3: I think they're probably the favor right now. I know
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Speaker 3: Krats is gonna say no, and everyone else is gonna
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Speaker 3: say what the Brewers find a way to do it
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Speaker 3: every year, But I mean this move really helps. It does,
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Speaker 3: especially if the Brewers trade Freddy p then I'm.
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Speaker 2: Like, that's what I wanted to ask Krats. Krats, do
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Speaker 2: you think that the Cubs are the front runners in
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Speaker 2: the division now? And if the Brewers trade Freddy prawlte
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Speaker 2: does that change your mind?
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Speaker 4: Oh, the Brewers trade Freddy p Yes for sure, because
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Speaker 4: everybody else you're just trying to fill in that rotation.
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Speaker 4: Nobody would fill in for what Freddy gave them last year.
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Speaker 4: Are the Brewers in eighty seven win team this year
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Speaker 4: like they're predicted?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Like, obviously we're not supposed to bet against the Brewers
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Speaker 4: because they just keep showing the naysayers wrong. But the Cubs,
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Speaker 4: the Cubs, to me, they're not quite back offensively to
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Speaker 4: the point where what they what they had from Tucker
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Speaker 4: last year, even though he faded in the end. Bregman's
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Speaker 4: not going to give them all of that, but you know,
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Speaker 4: is this an upgrade, It'll be an upgrade based on
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Speaker 4: how they deploy the rest of their roster, their rest
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Speaker 4: their roster, their position player roster is. To me, it's
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Speaker 4: it's really good. Is it better than last year? And
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Speaker 4: last year's offense was clicking, was holding them together, and
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Speaker 4: then you know they went.
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Speaker 3: Through some ups and downs.
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Speaker 4: So I think, are they the are they the favorite?
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Speaker 4: I would kind of lean towards yes, but I'm not
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent convinced yet, just because it seven straight
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Speaker 4: years the Brewers have done, you know, have won more games,
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Speaker 4: and everybody thinks they're gonna win.
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Speaker 1: Well and fruit offensively. They lose Kyle Tucker, but.
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Speaker 3: They can't do anything for him the entire second half.
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Speaker 3: He was hurt. Yeah, it did to almost nothing in
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Speaker 3: the first July on he was really he didn't do
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Speaker 3: a whole on there and honestly their whole production window.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were I think twentieth in runs in the
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Speaker 2: second half after I think they finished all really high
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Speaker 2: mark like maybe five six something like that, and run scored,
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Speaker 2: and I know run scored is not the perfect stat
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Speaker 2: you know, factor in ballpark, all of that although the
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Speaker 2: Cubs ballpark can get so pretty dicey, uh these days
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Speaker 2: for hitters, Yes.
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Speaker 4: My thing is, my thing is doesn't make them. The
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Speaker 4: question is are they better? Do you get another year
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Speaker 4: of like Matt Shaw? Offensively, yes, Bregman's a an upgrade
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Speaker 4: over him, But like in the second half, you talk
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Speaker 4: about what they didn't do in the second half, PA
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Speaker 4: all Star, he creator, he started creating a little bit
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Speaker 4: before the All Star Game. Saya Suzuki should have been
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Speaker 4: an All Star. Cratered in the second half as far
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Speaker 4: as like number stats wise, Kyle Tucker was obviously going
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Speaker 4: through injuries that have been well documented. So does signing
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Speaker 4: Bregman somehow help the whole team from not cratering in
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Speaker 4: the second half.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. But if you're looking at.
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Speaker 4: Making it, because they make teams right now in the offseason,
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Speaker 4: they make them based on projections, based on your war
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Speaker 4: what kind of defensive value you're gonna get in everything?
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Speaker 4: And Bragman is not an upgrade over Tucker? Is he
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Speaker 4: an upgrade to this team without Tucker? Obviously he's an
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Speaker 4: upgrade just hand in hand to Matt Shall. Yeah, people
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Speaker 4: are gonna argue Shaw's war was pretty close to the same.
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Speaker 4: He had good defense. I get it. But to me,
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Speaker 4: this is a good job by by Jed Hoyer looking
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Speaker 4: ahead and saying, Nico Horner is gonna be a free agent.
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Speaker 4: We signed him to a nice little three year, thirty
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Speaker 4: five million dollar deal to get this one extra year
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Speaker 4: of free agency, and next year he'll be a free agent.
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Speaker 4: Does that mean Shaw moves a second? Does that mean
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Speaker 4: Bregman moves the second Shaw comes back to third? To me,
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Speaker 4: if i'm them, I don't trade any of those guys.
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Speaker 4: It is a good thing to have a lot of depth.
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Speaker 4: It's gonna suck for somebody to not get the full
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty at bats that you know you're
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Speaker 4: probably gonna lose. But then next year they slot in
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Speaker 4: and they play. You know you have your second and
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Speaker 4: third basement for the future.
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Speaker 2: mean Bregman played what one fourteen this past season. Depth matters,
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Speaker 2: and yes, it might suck for a year. If everybody
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Speaker 2: just happens to be super healthy and wants to play
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Speaker 2: every day, somebody is going to be pissed off. But
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Speaker 2: let that be the worst problem, because the Cubs should
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Speaker 2: be a more successful ball club. I just don't see
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Speaker 2: a world where the Cubs are going to get better
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Speaker 2: by trading Nico Horner. If they're going to trade him,
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Speaker 2: they're likely getting minor league specs back. Is that really
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Speaker 2: what you want to do at this point? If we're
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Speaker 2: playing the numbers game right in baseball and you're looking
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Speaker 2: at the war statistic, I mean, I believe Nico Horner
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Speaker 2: was at or above Bragman. He was definitely above him
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Speaker 2: on baseball reference to.
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Speaker 1: This past season he was.
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Speaker 2: He was six point two on b WAR, fourth among
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Speaker 2: NL position players. I'm bringing this up because a version
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Speaker 2: of this is what many front offices look at. So
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Speaker 2: I'm like, if you add Bragman, you freaking keep Nico
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Speaker 2: Horner and also have a super tight defense.
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Speaker 1: Look at that defense now, they're.
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Speaker 3: All about run saved. Yeah, defensive tight Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I don't even think you entertain it. Nico's making
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Speaker 2: twelve million dollars this coming season. All good operate like
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Speaker 2: a big market ball club, have a good time, and
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Speaker 2: enjoy a guy who has looked at as one of
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Speaker 2: the team leaders.
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Speaker 1: Craig Council spoke about him at the winter meetings.
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Speaker 2: This was Insideed Charma's article, and he said, Nico's great
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Speaker 2: at something I think other people think they're good at
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Speaker 2: and they're not good at it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just players. I'm talking about people.
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Speaker 2: When he's talking about reps and completing it perfectly and
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Speaker 2: all of that, right, and he's saying, some guys think
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Speaker 2: they're good and they're not that good at all of
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Speaker 2: the press.
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Speaker 3: By the way, as much as we're hyping through Cubs
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Speaker 3: at this, what about the Red Sox.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the Red Sox have Pap joining
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Speaker 1: us soon.
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Speaker 3: The Red Sox, this is a this was a huge
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Speaker 3: piece of their team last year. What do they do?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know they went on and got Sonny
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Speaker 3: Grand I know they went out and got Wilson and Treres,
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Speaker 3: but they they have a whole at third base and
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Speaker 3: second base right because they were most I think I
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Speaker 3: think most Red Sox fans were like, Ah, we'll keep Bragman,
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Speaker 3: We'll bring Bregman back and then we'll figure out second base.
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Speaker 3: Whether so, does this bring Boba shit into the Red
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Speaker 3: Sox land of opportunity?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna cost more and there's other teams involved.
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Speaker 2: My thing is, if you really wanted Bregman, you couldn't
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Speaker 2: just figure this shit out.
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Speaker 3: I love Chris Catillo's text too or tweet by the way.
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Speaker 3: What so they traded Devers for a one year of
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Speaker 3: Alex Bregman and now they don't have either one correct
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Speaker 3: and now they're searching for a third baseman.
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Speaker 1: Again, had that opt out go? Here's the thing I.
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Speaker 3: Think, I honestly believe that every Red Sox fan the
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Speaker 3: last path when he comes on, thought that this was
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Speaker 3: a done deal, like he's oh, he's coming back, he's
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Speaker 3: good too. Why would any why would anybody ever walk
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Speaker 3: away from the high and mighty Red Sox. Why would
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Speaker 3: anybody ever leave the Red Sox, especially we made the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Him and ac are tied, Alex Cora and now all
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, here he is boom on the Cubs.
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Speaker 2: Five years, won seventy five mil, seventy million dollars in
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Speaker 2: deferrals for Bregnant and what it seems like, and this
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Speaker 2: was first I think reported from Sean McAdam, is that
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Speaker 2: the Red Sox would not go past five years, one
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Speaker 2: sixty five mil. That was their final offer, with significant
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Speaker 2: deferrals that were going to be paid out later than
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Speaker 2: the Cubs too. So it actually then his present value gets.
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Speaker 1: It to distant.
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Speaker 3: The Red Sox made an offer early in the off season.
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Speaker 3: Whatever that was, let's say five one fifty. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: These are not the real numbers. Okay, I don't know
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Speaker 3: the real numbers.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: They made an offer at Alex Pragman early in the
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Speaker 3: offseason and said here it is, and then his camp
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Speaker 3: kept going back saying that's not our market. Our market's
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Speaker 3: higher than that, and it made Alex a little bit
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Speaker 3: mad and they would not move. So then the Red
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Speaker 3: Sox were like, okay, well take it or leave it,
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Speaker 3: and they will not budge. Then Bregman's camp with Boris
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Speaker 3: goes back to him and says, hey, we have a
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Speaker 3: higher offer and we're gonna probably take it, and the
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Speaker 3: Red Sox were like, we don't believe you. If you
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Speaker 3: can do it, do it. And then they said, okay,
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Speaker 3: well we're gonna sign. We're not telling you the number.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna sign with a different team. And that's when
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Speaker 3: the Red Sox went to this five one sixty five.
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Speaker 3: But Bregman was already one mad and two had a
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Speaker 3: higher offer. And the longer the more they tried to
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Speaker 3: stretch it out, the longer and farther down the road
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Speaker 3: the deferrals got so Bregman's like, I'm getting more money
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Speaker 3: in a shorter amount of time. I'm going to the cob.
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Speaker 3: What does he owe the Red Sox Nothing, That's what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. But the Red Sox literally would not move
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Speaker 3: and would not budget, really wouldn't negotiate until it was
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Speaker 3: almost Well, it wasn't almost too late, it was too late.
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Speaker 3: And now they're like, uh, we messed that one up.
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Speaker 3: And now obviously Red Sox fans are flipping out about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Cubs fans should be thrilled. They went through
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Speaker 2: this last year, Kratz. Last year, the Cubs were trying
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Speaker 2: to play ball for Bragman and very interested in him
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Speaker 2: and didn't land him.
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Speaker 1: So did the Tigers.
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Speaker 3: And the Tigers, from what I heard, did this to
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Speaker 3: Pregmant last year, the same thing that the Red Sox
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Speaker 3: did this year. They said, here's an offer, take it
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Speaker 3: or leave it. We don't know who your market is.
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Speaker 1: Six s one point five, by the way, was the
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Speaker 1: number last year.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, they wouldn't move though, again that was.
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Speaker 1: The highest they'd go.
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Speaker 3: They wouldn't move. Yeah, And so Bregman was like, well,
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Speaker 3: I can get opt out or do you get this
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Speaker 3: opt out deal with the Red Sox. And then he
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Speaker 3: got his five one to seventy five, so we got
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Speaker 3: six almost two hundred you count the one year in Boston.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred plus and deferrals make it a little murky,
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Speaker 2: but he got way whatever he got more. Yes, it's
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Speaker 2: sometimes difficult to do the present day value on the
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Speaker 2: fly like that when you're doing comps from past years.
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Speaker 1: But regardless, yeah, he did better. He got what he
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Speaker 1: wanted deal done.
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Speaker 2: And actually when you look at it, it's not crazy, right,
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Speaker 2: five one seventy five and there's deferrals there, So we'll
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Speaker 2: figure out what the exact n.
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Speaker 3: Hit we hit the Ballinger later in the show. I
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Speaker 3: want to talk about some stuff too there just one
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Speaker 3: could affect the other and how this just because we
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Speaker 3: had a whole thing on this on Friday, Crawts, you
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Speaker 3: were on, but I went on a little bit about
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Speaker 3: Bellinger and what, you know, what his market might look like.
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Speaker 3: And I've talked to some people and it's been clarified
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Speaker 3: a little bit for me. So we'll see how Bregman
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Speaker 3: affects Bellinger. Talk about it.
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Speaker 1: But for Bregman, no trade clause, no opt outs. This
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Speaker 1: is it good?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, Fred and seventy five million Alex. This
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Speaker 3: is it baby, all right?
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Speaker 2: So what's next? Who is next to sign? Will it
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Speaker 2: be the Yankee signing Cody Bellinger?
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Speaker 1: Not?
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Speaker 2: According to Buster Only, He said the Yankees are now
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Speaker 2: operating under the assumption that Bellinger is going to sign elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, posturing by the Yanks to be like, well, that's it.
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Speaker 3: They just they have a five year deal on the
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Speaker 3: table and now they're like, oh, he's not taking it,
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Speaker 3: so we're gonna move on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we think it's five thirty and they're like, ugh,
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Speaker 2: you don't appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Has not been offered a six year deal according to
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Speaker 3: the Numeros sources, so maybe it's five. Okay.
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Speaker 1: If it's not six, then it's four or five.
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Speaker 3: Much right now? And I learned. I've learned a lot
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Speaker 3: since we talked to Bellinger last time. First of all,
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Speaker 3: I was told that the Bragman signings should open up
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Speaker 3: the free some free agents signings other ones. Now there's
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Speaker 3: a little bit more of an established market. Second of all,
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Speaker 3: we had a whole conversation. I was like, if you
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Speaker 3: go back this many years. You know, da da da
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Speaker 3: da dad. What I was told is teams usually an
16:31
Speaker 3: agents only go back three the last three years for
16:34
Speaker 3: comps for comps.
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Speaker 1: Now agents do that or teams do that?
16:38
Speaker 3: I think both both.
16:39
Speaker 1: Okay.
16:40
Speaker 3: So then the other thing that's interesting to me is
16:42
Speaker 3: you can make an argument, and certain people make this
16:44
Speaker 3: argument that Bellinger for the last three years has actually
16:46
Speaker 3: been better than Bragman. Andy's two years younger. I'm not
16:50
Speaker 3: saying that he gets more than Bragman, but I'm saying
16:54
Speaker 3: some people out there could think it could make You
16:56
Speaker 3: could make a case that he should get more than
16:58
Speaker 3: break What about the no longer? Don't you think that's
17:00
Speaker 3: where they year the seven years?
17:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bregman also has a sauce to him.
17:04
Speaker 3: That I'm not I'm not. I'm just I'm just saying
17:07
Speaker 3: what people are saying.
17:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I understand that, but agree or disagree Bregman
17:12
Speaker 1: and say Kyle Schwarber right in different ways a little bit,
17:15
Speaker 1: but have a certain sauce that people afies their value.
17:19
Speaker 3: I'm not going to the media and people in their
17:20
Speaker 3: clubhouse have come out and said Bregman makes everyone better,
17:23
Speaker 3: Charmer makes everybody better. So teams see this in the
17:25
Speaker 3: media repeatedly and they're like, Oh, he can make our
17:28
Speaker 3: team better, let's bring him in.
17:29
Speaker 1: I think that it.
17:31
Speaker 3: Matters because then if you have if there's a guy
17:33
Speaker 3: out there and like, oh, he doesn't really make anybody better, Oh,
17:36
Speaker 3: we don't want to touch him.
17:37
Speaker 1: Bellinger's cool. I gat he's not. We know everyone would
17:41
Speaker 1: say that.
17:41
Speaker 3: No, but he's better defensively. Yeah, he earns a lot
17:44
Speaker 3: of his war defensively. He's better defensively than look at
17:47
Speaker 3: his war, B war, D war, whatever it is.
17:51
Speaker 1: I mean, different positions.
17:53
Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter who had a higher war last year,
17:56
Speaker 3: Bregman or Bellinger Bellinger.
17:58
Speaker 2: Okay, Bregman also played a hundred and what fourteen games
18:01
Speaker 2: and how many?
18:02
Speaker 3: But he had almost a two war less one three
18:04
Speaker 3: point five to five point Wait.
18:05
Speaker 1: Wait, way close, Okay, I'm sorry.
18:10
Speaker 3: I mean Bellinger over the last three years nine point
18:13
Speaker 3: nine twelve point one.
18:17
Speaker 1: Wait.
18:17
Speaker 2: I just want to document history right now. I am
18:20
Speaker 2: on a different side of the coin.
18:22
Speaker 3: Here they had about the same war.
18:24
Speaker 1: AJ is calculating war.
18:26
Speaker 3: I'm just saying this is how teams look at it.
18:28
Speaker 3: Ops plus one twenty eight one sixteen one twenty two
18:31
Speaker 3: for Bregman and for Bellinger one thirty nine to eleven.
18:37
Speaker 3: Better for Bellinger last three year. I'm just going last
18:39
Speaker 3: three years. I'm not Plus he plays center field, Plus
18:42
Speaker 3: he can play first base. Plus he'll steal your bases.
18:45
Speaker 3: I'm not listen. I'm not making the argument one's better
18:48
Speaker 3: than the other. I'm just saying the way I was
18:50
Speaker 3: told for people. This is how market teams and agents
18:54
Speaker 3: look at it, and they say, well, if the market
18:56
Speaker 3: for Bellinger or for Bregman is five five, you can
19:00
Speaker 3: make an argument Bellinger is actually better. He should get more, longer,
19:03
Speaker 3: longer term, and more.
19:04
Speaker 2: Who do you want over the next five years? I mean,
19:07
Speaker 2: it's a show. We have to do it all. Who
19:08
Speaker 2: do you guys want over the next five years? I
19:10
Speaker 2: take Bregman both. No, you can't do that.
19:13
Speaker 3: I can't tell me what I can and can't do.
19:15
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, But if you're upstaining, then you're obstaining krats.
19:19
Speaker 4: Who am I? Who am I putting? What team am
19:21
Speaker 4: I putting him on? Am I putting?
19:24
Speaker 1: Yeah?
19:25
Speaker 2: But you guys are doing defensive fits like, oh, he's
19:27
Speaker 2: a better defender than him, Like they're playing two different positions.
19:31
Speaker 3: We're supposed to be equal, though, Scott, at your end,
19:33
Speaker 3: all be.
19:33
Speaker 2: All stat Okay, so you have an opening in the
19:37
Speaker 2: outfield and at third base.
19:38
Speaker 3: Which team, which which park and which team because parking matters.
19:45
Speaker 4: Bellinger doesn't need to be the Alex Bregman of the
19:49
Speaker 4: team because they have judge. So to me, Bellinger is
19:52
Speaker 4: more valuable to the Yankees. So I take Bellinger if
19:57
Speaker 4: you're making me choose, I love I love breg I
20:00
Speaker 4: think I think Bregman to the Red Sox is more
20:04
Speaker 4: valuable than Bregman to the Cubs. People are gonna be like,
20:08
Speaker 4: what does that even mean? You're an idiot, But to me,
20:12
Speaker 4: it's all based on how if you're using that like
20:14
Speaker 4: intangible Kyle Schwarber, Alex Bregman. They got the sauce, like
20:18
Speaker 4: you said, Scott, that plays at different places. That is
20:23
Speaker 4: a if there's already an established leader on the team
20:27
Speaker 4: that plays at different places, and maybe the Cubs needed
20:30
Speaker 4: that guy. We just heard that maybe Nico Horner was
20:33
Speaker 4: probably that guy for them, or you know, Danzy Swanson
20:36
Speaker 4: is that guy, whatever it is. But I think your
20:39
Speaker 4: your sauce fits on a team a certain team differently
20:43
Speaker 4: and I think breg I think Bellinger's ability to back
20:47
Speaker 4: up Ben Rice at first base if he goes to
20:50
Speaker 4: catch a few games, gives him versatility. The fact that
20:53
Speaker 4: he can play center field. If Trent Grisham has a
20:56
Speaker 4: down year, something happens, they're slotting a center fielder into field,
21:01
Speaker 4: and he doesn't if he lacks that Bregmann leadership or
21:04
Speaker 4: Swarber leadership, which is rare, elite type of leadership that
21:08
Speaker 4: we hear.
21:08
Speaker 1: In the game.
21:10
Speaker 3: Judge has already got that.
21:11
Speaker 4: Judge is already the guy, and he's not going to
21:13
Speaker 4: step on Judge's toes.
21:15
Speaker 2: It's a good explanation, and I want to double down.
21:19
Speaker 2: I like Cody Bellinger, and I think he's worth thirty
21:22
Speaker 2: million dollars per year. We did this exercise on Friday together.
21:26
Speaker 2: We were like, if the Yankees are not offering him
21:29
Speaker 2: five years, shame on them. Yes, if Belly's asking for seven,
21:32
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone else is going to give
21:34
Speaker 2: him seven at that rate, that's just my guess.
21:36
Speaker 1: We don't know everything. And then six we were like, Okay,
21:39
Speaker 1: I can see.
21:39
Speaker 3: That we also didn't have the Bregmann contract. Now to
21:41
Speaker 3: look at either sure and I know they're different players,
21:44
Speaker 3: different positions at the ages, but I'm just saying, if
21:47
Speaker 3: you're younger, if everyone's if you go back and look
21:49
Speaker 3: say numbers, it changes.
21:50
Speaker 2: Six at one thirty. Didn't we literally said six at
21:53
Speaker 2: thirty or one eighty, And I think everyone's happy, didn't
21:56
Speaker 2: we say that?
21:56
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, nobody's gotten to six yet. Then, so then
22:01
Speaker 3: if they say it's listen Bellinger, then if that's all
22:04
Speaker 3: you got, you gotta take it, right.
22:06
Speaker 2: If that's all you have, you got to take it.
22:08
Speaker 2: But if you've got some other team lurking Cubs just
22:11
Speaker 2: did with the Red Sox.
22:12
Speaker 3: Well, the Cubs have always been a rumored team for Bragman.
22:15
Speaker 3: It's not like they just came out. We had always said, oh,
22:17
Speaker 3: Bregman would fit last year. Remember we said, oh Bregman
22:20
Speaker 3: wuld fit nicely on the Cubs. We said that last
22:22
Speaker 3: year and the Tigers and the Tigers, and the Tigers
22:25
Speaker 3: definitely weren't pulling that trigger in the Cubs we didn't
22:26
Speaker 3: think would either. Yeah, right, so then but then after time,
22:29
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the Tigers.
22:30
Speaker 1: Did pull the trigger. They just came up short on
22:32
Speaker 1: last year.
22:33
Speaker 3: Not this year. But then this year but then for
22:35
Speaker 3: Bregman this year with the Cubs, like everyone again it
22:37
Speaker 3: goes back to every Red Sox fan just assumed he's
22:42
Speaker 3: going to be a Red Sox again.
22:44
Speaker 1: Okay, so then they missed.
22:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're trying to figure out the place for him,
22:49
Speaker 2: and it does still feel like the Yanks, and so
22:51
Speaker 2: they're just having a good old fashioned stare down right now.
22:54
Speaker 1: There's other spots.
22:55
Speaker 3: I mean, that'd be great on the Angels.
22:56
Speaker 1: Angels would be big. Oh my gosh, they Met's Angels.
23:00
Speaker 1: Met's is a fit. Yeah, shake it up.
23:02
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna get to some quick hitter news.
23:04
Speaker 2: So let's start with Freddie Freeman actually dropping out of
23:08
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic for Team Canada for personal reasons.
23:12
Speaker 2: I mean, what are the reasons, I don't know. But
23:15
Speaker 2: also Freddy's in the playoffs every year, he's getting up there.
23:19
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you want a reference your thing
23:22
Speaker 2: that's fair dying to go back in fairness, I can
23:25
Speaker 2: say this with confidence. Team Canada is not winning a
23:27
Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic. I know that's not in a great excuse,
23:30
Speaker 2: and you want to see Freddy there. But two years
23:33
Speaker 2: ago I was going through the ankle I don't know.
23:35
Speaker 2: You never know what someone's going through, and he wants
23:37
Speaker 2: to be geared up for the Dodgers this year to
23:40
Speaker 2: try and repeat.
23:42
Speaker 3: How is Jamison Taian Canadian?
23:44
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
23:45
Speaker 3: He just is born He's from Houston. He is born
23:52
Speaker 3: in Florida.
23:53
Speaker 1: Wasn't he born in Lakeland?
23:55
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Lakeland's not I mean a metropolis, but
24:00
Speaker 3: it's also not Canada.
24:04
Speaker 1: You did your homework on that.
24:07
Speaker 3: I think he played. I think he played. I mean
24:08
Speaker 3: he was.
24:09
Speaker 4: He was with that like original crew of really good start,
24:13
Speaker 4: like Francis ty On and then uh like Filipo Mont
24:20
Speaker 4: like they had some Ryan Dempster, LaRue well after Dempster,
24:25
Speaker 4: but Chris LaRue like all those guys.
24:28
Speaker 2: This is I think the same connection that Freddie Freeman
24:30
Speaker 2: has because Freddy never lived in his parents his parents,
24:33
Speaker 2: and for Jamison, his mother is Canadian, so there was
24:37
Speaker 2: no living in.
24:38
Speaker 1: Living in is not a requirement.
24:40
Speaker 3: I just didn't know what the connection was there. So
24:42
Speaker 3: good for him, Liten, you get to play and if
24:44
Speaker 3: you're not going to be in USA, I mean Freddie
24:45
Speaker 3: probably maybe could have been on USA, but he's also
24:48
Speaker 3: said I'm playing for Canada. The last two times, so
24:50
Speaker 3: he was definitely someone the Canadians were counting on. Good
24:54
Speaker 3: for Freddy whatever, we'll ask him when we go to
24:56
Speaker 3: Dodger camp.
24:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge blow to the Canadian team obviously.
25:00
Speaker 3: Then he went.
25:02
Speaker 4: Ernie WIT's been a manager for Team Canada for every
25:05
Speaker 4: year for WBC. For the qualifiers, Ernie went Larry Walker,
25:11
Speaker 4: two Stalwarts, and uh and Leaper Leaper the third base
25:16
Speaker 4: coach for the Padres, and then Stubby Clap Canadian legends.
25:23
Speaker 2: Well, Canada's got a good right now with baseball, so
25:27
Speaker 2: they might not win the WBC, but the Blue Jays
25:29
Speaker 2: are looking damn good.
25:30
Speaker 1: All right, let's do quick hitter signings.
25:32
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with Ryan Stanek going to the Saint
25:35
Speaker 2: Louis Cardinals.
25:38
Speaker 3: Like me, okay, I mean, well, good for Ryan Stannick.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's coming off.
25:41
Speaker 3: It's gonna have a down year for Him's gonna happen.
25:43
Speaker 3: He's gonna go out and ball out and in July
25:44
Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, hey, Ryan, you're going to a new.
25:46
Speaker 2: Tea Bingo one year, three and a half million and
25:49
Speaker 2: a six million dollar club option for the year after.
25:51
Speaker 1: That's actually big.
25:52
Speaker 2: I mean, if you performed well he could be worth
25:54
Speaker 2: that number, but yeah, he's coming off again.
25:57
Speaker 1: I know Ja is not the end.
25:58
Speaker 2: All, be all for for reliever, but it was one
26:00
Speaker 2: of his worst year's era wise, five three zero. The
26:03
Speaker 2: walks were up, but stuff wise, there's still a lot
26:05
Speaker 2: to light there. I mean, the big fastball, splitter, a
26:07
Speaker 2: couple breaking balls that play. So the Cardinals have actually
26:11
Speaker 2: had some success with this. Philm Ayton last year, this
26:16
Speaker 2: is we.
26:16
Speaker 3: You should do if you're not trying to win, which
26:17
Speaker 3: the Cardinals have kind of said, we're not really trying
26:19
Speaker 3: to win. Right, You go out and you sign these
26:21
Speaker 3: veteran guys to cheaper deals, and then you trade them
26:24
Speaker 3: at the deadline and you get something back. Maybe that
26:27
Speaker 3: person helps you this year, next year, two years from now.
26:30
Speaker 3: And they said, man, we got this guy for Ryan
26:32
Speaker 3: Stannick for those three months where we had Ryan Stannick.
26:35
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you should be doing if you're the
26:37
Speaker 2: Cardinals and you're in rebuild mode. Next up, the Cincinnati
26:40
Speaker 2: Reds woke up this off season after falling asleep post
26:43
Speaker 2: losing the Kyle Schwarber sweepstakes, and they signed Pierce Johnson
26:47
Speaker 2: one year, six and a half million Bucks great for
26:50
Speaker 2: the Reds bullpen to strengthen it a little bit. They
26:53
Speaker 2: also brought back Amelia Pagan, so the Reds bullpen should
26:56
Speaker 2: be strong. They've done a really nice job in terms
26:59
Speaker 2: of pitch talent. You know, it's something that you thought
27:02
Speaker 2: you'd never see, right, there were times in life where
27:04
Speaker 2: you'd watch the Reds and be like, damn, I mean,
27:06
Speaker 2: you just it's so difficult in that ballpark. All the
27:10
Speaker 2: pitchers get lit up, and you're like, all right, maybe
27:12
Speaker 2: the ballparks changed and maybe like in terms of you know,
27:15
Speaker 2: how the baseball is playing there. But also this team
27:18
Speaker 2: is I think put a pretty strong emphasis on improving
27:21
Speaker 2: their pitching, not I mean development, of course, but also
27:26
Speaker 2: craps just spending more on pitching, drafting, pitching very consistently.
27:31
Speaker 2: Right the famous move of Chase Burns over Charlie Condon,
27:35
Speaker 2: which might turn out really well for them. So thoughts
27:38
Speaker 2: on the Reds doing a little high leverage reliever ad here.
27:43
Speaker 4: This I mean, I love the high leverage reliever ad
27:46
Speaker 4: every every team needs it. They had a taste of
27:48
Speaker 4: the playoffs, so you know you need that when it
27:50
Speaker 4: comes down to it, and you got to find somebody
27:52
Speaker 4: you got to find somebody that's like, ah, you know,
27:54
Speaker 4: this guy didn't work as a starter, so we threw
27:57
Speaker 4: him in the pen and he became our third guy.
28:00
Speaker 4: If you have Pegan and you have Pierce Johnson and
28:03
Speaker 4: then you have that guy, now you have a three
28:04
Speaker 4: headed beast at the end. But they started this back
28:08
Speaker 4: in two thousand and nineteen after the eighteen season, when
28:14
Speaker 4: they brought Derek Johnson over. You talk about a team
28:17
Speaker 4: the Reds, who you're like, oh, you said it, Scott can't.
28:22
Speaker 4: Nobody can pitch in Cincinnati. It's too small. No pitchers
28:25
Speaker 4: want to get there. They went out and they got,
28:28
Speaker 4: in my opinion, one of the best pitching coaches available,
28:30
Speaker 4: and in DJ Derek Johnson, who was the pitching coach
28:33
Speaker 4: for the Brewers, and they said, we're going to give you.
28:36
Speaker 4: The industry gives out whatever two year deals to pitching coaches.
28:40
Speaker 4: They gave him an extra year. Like they went above
28:45
Speaker 4: and beyond in an area where it was like, oh,
28:48
Speaker 4: it's a weakness to be you know, have some good
28:50
Speaker 4: pitching in Cincinnati. And since then they've kind of build
28:54
Speaker 4: it to what it is. You've gotten a lot of
28:56
Speaker 4: value out of the extension. That you signed from Hunter Green.
29:00
Speaker 4: He seems to like he seems to be taking the
29:03
Speaker 4: next step. Can they continue that? To me if they
29:06
Speaker 4: do continue it, because they have over the last three
29:09
Speaker 4: years of just slightly increasing and changing and making adjustments,
29:14
Speaker 4: each pitcher getting better and better. And then finally the offense,
29:18
Speaker 4: which I thought was going to be the part of
29:20
Speaker 4: the organization that carried them. Maybe some of those guys
29:24
Speaker 4: step up, those young guys that everyone's so much promise
29:28
Speaker 4: had this year this injury. Now they got to come back,
29:30
Speaker 4: steroid use all that stuff. They should score runs, But
29:35
Speaker 4: right now they're just run prevention.
29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're about short in my mind, from feeling really good.
29:42
Speaker 2: And maybe they continue to play the song and dance
29:45
Speaker 2: with the White Sox over Luis Robert. Maybe there's someone
29:49
Speaker 2: else there involved. And you always see that connection with
29:51
Speaker 2: those two where clearly they're not in line, and I'm
29:53
Speaker 2: betting they're not in line, more on the money side
29:55
Speaker 2: than the prospect side, but trying to improve at the margins.
30:00
Speaker 2: If there's one thing you know Pierce Johnson can do,
30:03
Speaker 2: it's sling a curveball. Yeah, he's at i mean now
30:06
Speaker 2: two years of about three quarters of his pitches the curve,
30:10
Speaker 2: so you like the bride and of the bullpen.
30:11
Speaker 1: If you need a curveball guy, you got him.
30:14
Speaker 4: Are we supposed to Are we supposed to look at
30:16
Speaker 4: the Red lineup and go, yes, all these guys are
30:19
Speaker 4: just mediocre.
30:21
Speaker 3: One point two to one point you.
30:25
Speaker 4: Know, five win players or one hundred and seven ops plus,
30:30
Speaker 4: Like when is O'Neil cruz gonna take the next step?
30:33
Speaker 4: Is mcclean's surgery The injury had to his shoulder, the.
30:37
Speaker 1: One that's say, what did I say, O'Neill?
30:43
Speaker 3: I meant Elliot.
30:46
Speaker 1: Yep.
30:46
Speaker 4: But you know, Spencer Steer has always been the guy.
30:50
Speaker 3: T J.
30:50
Speaker 4: Friedel's a guy that drives in a ton of runs,
30:53
Speaker 4: kind of more of an unassuming player. Noelvi Marte made
30:56
Speaker 4: some beautiful plays in right field last year as he
30:59
Speaker 4: made that transition. Is where his numbers before inflated because
31:02
Speaker 4: the steroids like, I don't think there's an organization. I
31:06
Speaker 4: don't think there's a position player corps that's as young
31:09
Speaker 4: and underachieving as the Reds, probably not to the extent
31:14
Speaker 4: of like the Orioles. The Orioles, you know, they have
31:18
Speaker 4: a great young core that you're like all right, these
31:20
Speaker 4: guys need to take the next step too. But in
31:23
Speaker 4: that in that case, you know, Gunnar Henderson's has taken
31:26
Speaker 4: the next step. Gunner Henderson's proven he can be a star.
31:29
Speaker 4: Who in this reds Cores can prove that they're gonna
31:32
Speaker 4: be a star or are they all just kind of
31:36
Speaker 4: like Ellie where it's like so much, so much potential,
31:40
Speaker 4: but nobody wants to take that next step.
31:44
Speaker 1: Solid players.
31:45
Speaker 3: They of course, it would be nice to see him.
31:47
Speaker 3: I know they tried for Shorebert Bushit or Bellinger or
31:50
Speaker 3: somebody like that, just a veteran guy that could really
31:52
Speaker 3: do some damage. It won't happen, but they found a
31:55
Speaker 3: way because they said, oh, Schwarbur would help us sell tickets. Well,
31:58
Speaker 3: so Boba shit and so Cody, why would.
32:02
Speaker 4: He help sell tickets because he's there? Because he went,
32:06
Speaker 4: I mean, what are you gonna get. You're gonna get
32:07
Speaker 4: to local, you know, Cincinnati High School Local night? You
32:11
Speaker 4: sell an extra thirty tickets? Like, I think that's a if,
32:15
Speaker 4: that's if that's really what they're saying to me. I
32:17
Speaker 4: think that's a tired excuse. He's gonna help the team
32:19
Speaker 4: because of all the things I just mentioned. They have
32:21
Speaker 4: a good young core that he's gonna get these dudes
32:25
Speaker 4: to be, Like, I don't want to say be out
32:28
Speaker 4: there every day because like that's not fair to that
32:32
Speaker 4: team to say, oh, they don't want to be out No.
32:33
Speaker 4: I think guys Ellie played through injuries last year, Matt
32:37
Speaker 4: McLean was coming back from his shoulder surgery. Like, there's
32:39
Speaker 4: a lot of things. I just think. I just think
32:42
Speaker 4: there is that piece, and I think Schwerber would have
32:45
Speaker 4: been an awesome piece to add to that. But some
32:49
Speaker 4: of these guys need to step up. And I think
32:51
Speaker 4: if they do step up and they hit closer to
32:54
Speaker 4: their potential, I think the Reds are dangerous even in
32:58
Speaker 4: the central with Bregman.
32:59
Speaker 1: Go to the Cubs. Good call. Let's hit hot Corner.
33:06
Speaker 2: On Friday at three two pm, two minutes after Vowel
33:11
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33:16
Speaker 2: Kepler has been suspended eighty games for ped usage. He
33:20
Speaker 2: is a free agent, as John Hammond noted Captain obvious,
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Speaker 2: this will not help.
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Speaker 1: His free agency.
33:27
Speaker 2: He tested positive for something that I don't even know
33:30
Speaker 2: how to pronounce, so you can go online and look
33:32
Speaker 2: up more on it. We're not going to do science territory.
33:36
Speaker 2: That show doesn't come out until June of twenty twenty seven.
33:39
Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, not good for the player.
33:45
Speaker 3: No, no, not good Nope, pen I mean now a
33:48
Speaker 3: team will be like, hey Max, we'll sign you for
33:51
Speaker 3: one year, one million, and no, by the way, you
33:53
Speaker 3: lose half of that before you start. I mean that's
33:57
Speaker 3: basically what he's gonna have to do and then suck
33:59
Speaker 3: it up for eighty games. He was, you know what
34:00
Speaker 3: he was hoping. He was hoping he would sign before
34:03
Speaker 3: this news broke A lah jerks and Profar Right.
34:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Profar, you think tested? I think that.
34:11
Speaker 2: I don't know what the timing that's that's at again again,
34:13
Speaker 2: I don't know the timing the league will give. I
34:15
Speaker 2: mean they're probably not. I don't know how it all
34:17
Speaker 2: goes behind the scenes. But if somebody did test positive,
34:20
Speaker 2: I feel like a team would.
34:22
Speaker 1: Know about it. Is that what you know?
34:24
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?
34:26
Speaker 2: So then you would just sign him and then find out, Hey, surpriseps.
34:31
Speaker 3: They don't know.
34:32
Speaker 4: Team knows nothing about it. Even if you're on a team,
34:35
Speaker 4: team knows nothing about it. You're the first one, only one.
34:39
Speaker 4: So anytime it's ever released beforehand appealing or anybody that's
34:43
Speaker 4: been released by the player, so there's no they could
34:47
Speaker 4: have signed them. They could have signed them. And then
34:50
Speaker 4: they've been like, wait, you knew about this to me
34:53
Speaker 4: this timing. It was an off season test. And we
34:56
Speaker 4: might talk about Andrew mccutchon's offseason test before, but this
35:00
Speaker 4: because you always get an appeal process.
35:02
Speaker 1: You get in.
35:03
Speaker 4: Whether whether players take it or not, you know, that's
35:06
Speaker 4: that's up to them, whether they want to fight it. No,
35:09
Speaker 4: it was I went to Mexico, I had a steak.
35:11
Speaker 4: I didn't do it. I don't know who knows what
35:16
Speaker 4: he did, but they they are the only ones to know.
35:18
Speaker 4: Teams do not know. The league does not know. Players
35:22
Speaker 4: Association does not know. I think the players Association is
35:26
Speaker 4: actually the second maybe they're the second one notified, but
35:32
Speaker 4: I know the teams do not know.
35:36
Speaker 1: Y'all.
35:37
Speaker 3: Steak in Mexico it gets me every time, and that's
35:41
Speaker 3: I need steaks in Mexico.
35:43
Speaker 1: Now I can have them. I don't care. That's me.
35:46
Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, listen, can we show the Andrew
35:49
Speaker 3: mccutch and stuff, because I find this this is the part.
35:51
Speaker 1: We can't talk about this at all anymore. That's it.
35:54
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, what are you gonna say, mex number,
35:56
Speaker 3: don't cheat, you got caught. Bang, that's it. People in chatter,
35:59
Speaker 3: I don't know his numbers, saying numbers went way up
36:00
Speaker 3: in July, so maybe that was it. But anyways, this
36:04
Speaker 3: is what happens if this was an off season test.
36:05
Speaker 3: I don't know Krafts. I'm sure he got tested in
36:07
Speaker 3: the off season. But they call you and they say, hey,
36:09
Speaker 3: are you home, and you're like, uh no, when will
36:13
Speaker 3: you be home? And you say an hour. They'll be like,
36:15
Speaker 3: all right, there'll be some of your house in an hour.
36:17
Speaker 3: Or if you're out of town, you're like, I'll be
36:19
Speaker 3: home on January fifteenth, and they're to be like, all right,
36:22
Speaker 3: there'll be a guy there to test you.
36:24
Speaker 1: Like right here go, I said, nothing like the CDT,
36:29
Speaker 1: which is the testing coming to my house on a Sunday.
36:32
Speaker 1: I got five kids in church.
36:34
Speaker 2: But let's get that urine sample real quick, UNC, and
36:38
Speaker 2: then you give us more update. I didn't give enough
36:42
Speaker 2: of the year in sample. So I'm currently outside in
36:43
Speaker 2: this Pittsburgh weather shirtless to see if that will speed
36:47
Speaker 2: this process up.
36:48
Speaker 1: I live for this update. That worked.
36:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in.
36:55
Speaker 1: You have to let them know if you're well.
36:56
Speaker 3: They call you. So you get a number they you
36:58
Speaker 3: get this random phone call and they'll be and they'll say, oh,
37:01
Speaker 3: this is CDT blah blah blah. Are you home. And
37:05
Speaker 3: if you say yes, they say, okay, well there'll be
37:07
Speaker 3: a guy at your house or a girl. There'll be
37:09
Speaker 3: a CDT agent at your house in the next forty
37:12
Speaker 3: five minutes. Or if you say no, I'm out of town,
37:15
Speaker 3: I'm on vacation. I'll be home Tuesday at eight o'clock,
37:19
Speaker 3: they'll be like, all right, there'll be someone there at
37:20
Speaker 3: eight thirty. I remember one time at my house the
37:24
Speaker 3: guy showed up at like seven in the morning and
37:25
Speaker 3: I had breakfast for him. I'm like, you want some
37:27
Speaker 3: donuts and some coffee while we're sitting because when you
37:30
Speaker 3: wake up, you pee. Most people wake up when they
37:33
Speaker 3: urinate when they get we have to wake up. So
37:36
Speaker 3: then you're like, all right, well, how do I get
37:37
Speaker 3: this to get right? So you gotta start drinking water
37:42
Speaker 3: and you just got to sit there because the guy
37:43
Speaker 3: just sits there and watches it. In your house, he's
37:45
Speaker 3: just like sitting at a counter like so.
37:47
Speaker 1: You guys share some donuts and coffee, and then I.
37:50
Speaker 3: Mean, what are you gonna drink too much? You can't
37:53
Speaker 3: go anywhere drink too much?
37:55
Speaker 1: Too much?
37:55
Speaker 4: What because it couldn't It could get diluted. If you
37:59
Speaker 4: can't pee enough, then you drink too much, and the
38:02
Speaker 4: samples too diluted. The one time they got, they got
38:05
Speaker 4: me in the afternoon, and every time I would go
38:08
Speaker 4: work out, I work out from I drop my kids
38:10
Speaker 4: off at school, work out from eight to eleven, and
38:13
Speaker 4: I would drink a gallon of water while I was
38:16
Speaker 4: working out. My pea's pretty clear. The guy calls. I'm like, okay,
38:22
Speaker 4: he comes over early afternoon. Nope, sorry, sample's too clear.
38:28
Speaker 4: Stop drinking. They'll stop drinking, but you need more pea.
38:32
Speaker 4: So I'm supposed to be dehydrated. I got one time
38:35
Speaker 4: I got the samp, the CDT guy, and they had
38:39
Speaker 4: to coordinate. Somebody'd come and take my blood at the
38:42
Speaker 4: same time, so they had two people sitting in my
38:44
Speaker 4: house taking blood, taking pea. Another time I was on
38:47
Speaker 4: a I was in a at a conference out in
38:50
Speaker 4: uh Colorado Springs. Beautiful hotel ran on the lake. I'm
38:55
Speaker 4: not even sure what the hotel was called five star hotel.
38:58
Speaker 4: This dude's got to come to the got to come
39:02
Speaker 4: to the either public bathroom. Because they called me and
39:05
Speaker 4: they're like, are you home. I was like no, I'm
39:07
Speaker 4: in Colorado Springs and they said, well, we need to
39:11
Speaker 4: come and visit you in your hotel. So I'm at
39:14
Speaker 4: this conference with my wife, Professional Athletes Outreach it was called,
39:19
Speaker 4: and they were like, well, can we go into the
39:22
Speaker 4: public bathroom in the hotel. I was like no, I'm
39:27
Speaker 4: not going into a bathroom with another dude. So we
39:30
Speaker 4: went up to my hotel room and I'm in my
39:32
Speaker 4: hotel room and I'm like, why am I in my
39:34
Speaker 4: hotel room with a drug testing guy? Like what is
39:37
Speaker 4: this happening? Like what is going on? So yeah, they're
39:40
Speaker 4: everywhere and they'll find you. They will find you. They
39:43
Speaker 4: called me after I quit. Yeah, they called me after
39:46
Speaker 4: I quit. They were like, hey, we're gonna come to
39:48
Speaker 4: your house.
39:49
Speaker 3: Are you home.
39:50
Speaker 4: I was like I quit, playing longest pause ever. The
39:53
Speaker 4: woman on the phone was like, all right, that was it.
40:03
Speaker 4: She ain't got the news.
40:05
Speaker 2: Do you want to know why you were in a
40:06
Speaker 2: bathroom in your hotel room with a tester? Max Kepler
40:13
Speaker 2: Jerkson profar, let's go down the line. This is why
40:17
Speaker 2: because they catch.
40:18
Speaker 3: But see here's what people used to do. And this
40:21
Speaker 3: is something that needs also be said, is what the
40:23
Speaker 3: the reason why they have the dilution test and all
40:25
Speaker 3: that is what guys would do is when they were
40:28
Speaker 3: doing things, and then they stopped allowing you to go
40:31
Speaker 3: in the hot tub, and they stopped allowing you to
40:32
Speaker 3: going to the cold tub because guys were doing stuff,
40:35
Speaker 3: and then they would drink but they would be like, oh,
40:37
Speaker 3: I don't have to pee. They go, well, I got
40:38
Speaker 3: to get my work done. Postgame, they go in the
40:40
Speaker 3: hot tub, they go in the cold tub, they drink
40:41
Speaker 3: a ton of water, and they'd pee in the hot
40:43
Speaker 3: in the cold tub until and they just keep drinking water.
40:46
Speaker 3: I can't pee, I can't pee, I can't pete. And
40:48
Speaker 3: then it would come out to where it was clear
40:51
Speaker 3: and it was too diluted to test, and they'd be like, okay,
40:54
Speaker 3: well you can't test today or too diluted. And that's
40:56
Speaker 3: how they would get that's how the guys got past
40:58
Speaker 3: these things. So now they banned you post game from
41:02
Speaker 3: going in the hot tub in the cold tub because
41:04
Speaker 3: they're like Nope, you got a pee and you got
41:06
Speaker 3: a p first before. These dudes follow you everywhere. They're
41:08
Speaker 3: their pregame. They follow you everywhere you go. They're right
41:11
Speaker 3: behind you on the field, they watch you on the field,
41:13
Speaker 3: they watch you come in.
41:14
Speaker 2: They're heroes though, because they have saved so many hot
41:18
Speaker 2: tubs and cold tubs from being just yellow piss nastiness.
41:23
Speaker 4: No people would drain them. You knew if the hot
41:25
Speaker 4: tubs were drained in the middle of the day that
41:28
Speaker 4: that's what was going on. Somebody was trying to clear
41:31
Speaker 4: their system. Saw it plenty of times. I saw pictures
41:35
Speaker 4: go out to the bullpen. The the guy can't go
41:39
Speaker 4: into the bullpen, so he watches you and they would
41:42
Speaker 4: go out to the bullpen and they would pee in
41:43
Speaker 4: the bullpen bathroom. They would make they would make the
41:47
Speaker 4: the testing guys stay all day long and look like
41:50
Speaker 4: people are all talking talking about the fact that he
41:53
Speaker 4: hit two sixteen, like he's on steroids.
41:56
Speaker 3: You know that those steroids sucked all that stuff.
41:59
Speaker 4: Or maybe he hit two sixteen and he was like,
42:01
Speaker 4: I don't want to do that again, and he was
42:03
Speaker 4: looking for a performance and answer.
42:05
Speaker 2: Then yeah, do you guys start to think, oh, how
42:09
Speaker 2: long has this been going on? When you hear about this,
42:12
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the.
42:12
Speaker 3: Players has been going on. It's been going on since forever.
42:15
Speaker 2: With the individual person, Like, oh, when he shows up
42:18
Speaker 2: to camp, if he signs a deal, is everybody going
42:21
Speaker 2: to be like, well, I'm looking back that that.
42:23
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen when he took off.
42:26
Speaker 3: You know what, it's always a question happened. It's always
42:28
Speaker 3: a question now forever, but forever. Rob I look at
42:32
Speaker 3: the biggest example of well a Rod we all know
42:34
Speaker 3: in his whole thing, Like when did he start? You
42:36
Speaker 3: know he says, oh, I only hit five homers. I'm like,
42:38
Speaker 3: oh god, dude, Like I know people that said you
42:41
Speaker 3: were doing them way back way back in the day, right,
42:44
Speaker 3: so you never know, Robinson Cano. That's a big thing
42:47
Speaker 3: with Robinson Cano, like, oh, he tested positive in Seattle,
42:49
Speaker 3: but was he doing them with a Rod back in
42:51
Speaker 3: New York. It's we're not blaming or accusing anybody, but
42:55
Speaker 3: those are questions that are asked now kind of like
42:58
Speaker 3: especially players, right, players are like this guy doing these
43:01
Speaker 3: because this back then we don't know. So it's always
43:04
Speaker 3: going to be there once you test positive and it sucks,
43:07
Speaker 3: but don't don't do drugs kids.
43:10
Speaker 4: But it also, I mean, it's also it's just as
43:12
Speaker 4: applicable as anything else in life. Very rarely does somebody
43:16
Speaker 4: get caught for a DUI. The very first and only
43:19
Speaker 4: time they went had some drinks and they went and
43:22
Speaker 4: dropped drove like you've been testing the limit for a
43:26
Speaker 4: little while. Like the guys that I the guys that
43:29
Speaker 4: I know that have tested positive for steroids were not
43:33
Speaker 4: one time offenders. They had snuff, especially now, especially now
43:39
Speaker 4: with all that we know about masking agents and everything,
43:41
Speaker 4: and always being ahead of the testing, the testing, trying
43:44
Speaker 4: to keep up all that stuff they're skirting by. Nobody
43:48
Speaker 4: ever tests me, like I live in this place. Nobody
43:51
Speaker 4: ever tests. You know, I'm here, like I'm willing to
43:55
Speaker 4: take the chance for what a kepler get ten million
43:58
Speaker 4: dollars until all the money is taken away from guys
44:03
Speaker 4: who test positive, You're always going to have it out there.
44:06
Speaker 4: And as soon as so many tests positive, Scott, your
44:09
Speaker 4: question was, do you think it's you know, it was
44:13
Speaker 4: more than that. Yeah, I do, I do, And I
44:18
Speaker 4: think my view has come way down from when you
44:22
Speaker 4: know two thousand and eight two thousand and nine, where
44:27
Speaker 4: everybody that had a career year, I was like, hmm,
44:29
Speaker 4: career year, came into camp best shape of his life,
44:32
Speaker 4: twenty pounds bigger. I'm like, I'm grinding away in the
44:35
Speaker 4: weight room, no weight change, no like body change like that,
44:39
Speaker 4: and these dudes come in and they're just completely different units. Yeah,
44:44
Speaker 4: Like that was that was what I thought all the time,
44:47
Speaker 4: and I voiced it before with Jackson Profar, like, you
44:50
Speaker 4: just don't gain, Like there's anomalies in the sport, but
44:54
Speaker 4: those anomalies are like dudes who make swing changes at
44:56
Speaker 4: twenty two not at thirty in your platform, and then
45:00
Speaker 4: you get fifty million dollars.
45:04
Speaker 1: Right.
45:04
Speaker 2: It causes suspicion and that's why as funny as some
45:08
Speaker 2: of the processes, it's important for the game wise, even
45:12
Speaker 2: more dudes would be doing it.
45:13
Speaker 1: And Ryan in the chat said, WHOA, WHOA are we.
45:15
Speaker 2: Listening to two former players picking up on suspicious things
45:18
Speaker 2: teammates did to avoid failing a DREADS test.
45:21
Speaker 1: Is that enabling cheating? Then?
45:23
Speaker 2: I don't think everybody's locked into to YouTube right now,
45:27
Speaker 2: being like I gotta get tips from Krafts and AJ
45:30
Speaker 2: on what they saw their teammates doing.
45:32
Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's that far making like.
45:35
Speaker 4: He was he saying that I enabled it because one
45:38
Speaker 4: of my teammates, oh decisions. I think that's what he's
45:42
Speaker 4: saying is I should have turned my teammate in for
45:46
Speaker 4: for what, Like there was other things that guys took,
45:49
Speaker 4: not just steroids, like that they wanted to get out
45:52
Speaker 4: of their system, Like they're testing for more than just steroids.
45:55
Speaker 4: So like that's like if I make am I making
46:01
Speaker 4: like judgments based on what my teammates are doing, Like
46:04
Speaker 4: you saw it and you went about your career, you
46:08
Speaker 4: knew that other guys were doing it. I told the
46:10
Speaker 4: story before here. I knew one of my ex teammates.
46:13
Speaker 4: He gave me his he gave me his apartment, and
46:17
Speaker 4: my wife went and got groceries while I was on
46:19
Speaker 4: the road. She got back and started putting them in
46:23
Speaker 4: our new apartment in our fridge, and there was HGH
46:27
Speaker 4: vials in the I mean, the the syringes were in
46:30
Speaker 4: the refrigerator. Like, was I supposed to turn in my
46:33
Speaker 4: ex teammate who wasn't on the team anymore because he
46:37
Speaker 4: was taking HGH? Like I don't think that I'm not
46:43
Speaker 4: supposed to do that, am.
46:44
Speaker 1: I not your job?
46:45
Speaker 3: No, listen, there's one you want to I tell you
46:51
Speaker 3: what you want to lose faith in all your teammates
46:54
Speaker 3: really fast talk about things that are happening in a clubhouse,
47:00
Speaker 3: on the road whatever, like they nobody's business. It's not.
47:05
Speaker 3: It's not, it's not. And it also unless I actually
47:09
Speaker 3: see somebody injected themselves and I know exactly what's in
47:13
Speaker 3: the the needle and all that, I don't know what
47:15
Speaker 3: they're doing. They could be diabetic and they got to
47:17
Speaker 3: get some I don't.
47:18
Speaker 1: Know what they're playing.
47:19
Speaker 3: I don't know. You can't. It's like, okay, it's like
47:21
Speaker 3: when I do a game for Fox, right, someone gets hurt.
47:24
Speaker 3: I don't speculate on what they hurt because I don't know,
47:27
Speaker 3: and I don't want to be wrong right, because I
47:29
Speaker 3: remember we did a game not long ago. I did
47:31
Speaker 3: a game and our stat guy had heard that so
47:34
Speaker 3: and so broke their arm, and the Telly by play
47:36
Speaker 3: guy goes, oh, they broke their arm, and I'm like, no,
47:40
Speaker 3: they didn't. Like let's you can't. You just can't speculate
47:43
Speaker 3: on that kind of stuff because you don't know.
47:45
Speaker 1: YEA, not with the medicals, medicals.
47:48
Speaker 3: And I don't know guys are doing. And you know what,
47:51
Speaker 3: it's none of my business what people are doing.
47:53
Speaker 2: No, no, And it's just not your job. I mean
47:56
Speaker 2: the league's job. That's the point of the league. And
47:58
Speaker 2: I mean this is a joint thing, the league and
48:00
Speaker 2: the player side. They come up with an agreement on
48:02
Speaker 2: who's going to police this, and then there are paid
48:05
Speaker 2: professionals and the organization gets paid a lot of money,
48:08
Speaker 2: the CDT to.
48:09
Speaker 1: Regulate all of this stuff.
48:11
Speaker 2: All right, anyway, I want to get to two more
48:13
Speaker 2: things quick here too well moves. Tyler Kinley signs with
48:18
Speaker 2: the Braves one year. I was just getting rid of
48:20
Speaker 2: all of the weekend news. Here on my checklist four
48:24
Speaker 2: point twenty five million And for Kinley, Brave fans were
48:30
Speaker 2: shocked that they let him go.
48:32
Speaker 1: They declined the option. It was for five point five million.
48:36
Speaker 2: And this actually plays to Kratz's whole collusion thing because
48:39
Speaker 2: like the teams, they all have like the same figures
48:42
Speaker 2: on what the guy's worth. So they let him go
48:44
Speaker 2: and then they're like, we'll be able to get him
48:45
Speaker 2: for a little bit less, and they did. I'm not
48:47
Speaker 2: blaming the Braves I'm just saying that's how the whole
48:49
Speaker 2: system is. Everybody probably has him at the same number,
48:54
Speaker 2: and then he hits the free agent market and gets signed.
48:57
Speaker 2: So good for the Braves. He was lights out with Atlanta.
49:02
Speaker 2: He was traded to them at the deadline. He had
49:04
Speaker 2: an O seven to two ERA in twenty four appearances
49:07
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen with more breaking ball usage, slider curve.
49:12
Speaker 1: He was vac.
49:14
Speaker 3: He was gonna.
49:15
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna be one of the big
49:16
Speaker 4: pieces at the trade deadline and the and the Braves
49:19
Speaker 4: got him because I went to the gate he was
49:21
Speaker 4: lights out for the Rockies and I was actually at
49:24
Speaker 4: the game. I think he gave up in Boston. I
49:27
Speaker 4: think he gave up like five or six runs. I
49:29
Speaker 4: remember telling my son, who was sitting next to me,
49:31
Speaker 4: I was like, this guy could be a huge, huge
49:35
Speaker 4: trade piece because he's having a great year. He looked
49:38
Speaker 4: over at me after he gave up a bunch of
49:40
Speaker 4: runs and I was he was like, ooh, sorry, Like
49:43
Speaker 4: I didn't jink him, but he had.
49:45
Speaker 3: A really good year.
49:46
Speaker 4: I know you're gonna look at the numbers from Colorado
49:48
Speaker 4: and you'd be like, but so another great another great pickup.
49:53
Speaker 4: Don't don't forget Atlanta gets their job, gets a lot
49:56
Speaker 4: of their free agency stuff done early. They have put
49:59
Speaker 4: together a banger of a bullpen right now. And to
50:03
Speaker 4: go with that, starting rotation should be healthy this year
50:08
Speaker 4: and that position player corps.
50:10
Speaker 3: Don't don't sleep on the braves.
50:13
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They'll have I mean a little chip.
50:16
Speaker 2: It was a rough year for them, no playoffs, and uh,
50:19
Speaker 2: they brought in Robert Tuirez. Rice Eglesis is back. But
50:23
Speaker 2: it's a good looking bullpen right now. And then lastly,
50:26
Speaker 2: Jake McCarthy traded from the Diamondbacks to the Rockies. He'll
50:30
Speaker 2: get playing time.
50:31
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
50:33
Speaker 2: He's had some moments, yeah, and then he kind of
50:35
Speaker 2: fell out of favor. You know, he lost some pt
50:37
Speaker 2: this past year with the d Backs. But you know,
50:40
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a make it or break it situation.
50:42
Speaker 2: He had a really down season and then only ended
50:45
Speaker 2: up going let's see two hundred and twenty two played apartment.
50:47
Speaker 3: You need a good year. Colorado's a good plays as
50:49
Speaker 3: an offensive player.
50:50
Speaker 1: It is so good for him find it again that I.
50:53
Speaker 3: Don't think I'm the Diamondbacks. So they were like, okay,
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Speaker 3: trade them, you know, trade them in the division. Get
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Speaker 3: find the one place to play nice nice chocolate joke Arizona.
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Speaker 2: He said two good years, twenty two and twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four were two solid seasons, So we'll see if he
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Speaker 2: can find it again. Still, what is he twenty This
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Speaker 2: will be his age twenty eight season. He's twenty eight,
51:13
Speaker 2: so there's a little best.
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Speaker 3: Left on left.
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Speaker 4: At one point in twenty four he was one of
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Speaker 4: the best left on left hitters. And that's a really
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Speaker 4: catapulted his year. I didn't look to see what it
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Speaker 4: splits were last year, but it's a value that maybe
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Speaker 4: he can take what he learned and if he gets
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Speaker 4: every day at bats in Colorado, that can be how
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Speaker 4: he catapults himself to, you know, to that next level
51:39
Speaker 4: that it looked like he was taken in twenty four.
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Speaker 4: Not a lot of power guy, but just puts together
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Speaker 4: ridiculous runs of at bats, line drop contact like left
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Speaker 4: on left, right on right, it didn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Let's slap.
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Speaker 2: Dodgers' territory is coming up in two minutes live on
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Speaker 2: the FT Network on their own YouTube channel. They do
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Speaker 2: good numbers over there. Even if you're a hater and
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Speaker 2: you want to see what's going on. One topic we
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Speaker 2: didn't get to today that maybe we'll get you tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: the Kyle Tucker Sweepstakes. It appears that the Dodgers are
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Speaker 2: going up against the Blue Jays and the Mets. That's
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Speaker 2: what Jim Yukatt said, and that's what some other insiders
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Speaker 2: have been talking about. So we'll see what the Dodgers
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Speaker 2: or what Dodgers' territory says Katie woot new addition to
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers' territory. Team will be on that show in
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Speaker 2: one minute Hot Sheet with me and the Baseball America
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Speaker 2: crew coming up after that at three point thirty Eastern time,
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Speaker 2: and stay tuned to that show is going to move
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Speaker 2: to a different time slot soon.
52:53
Speaker 1: And Kratz hats.
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Speaker 4: Well, the Chicago Bears must be the raining NFL World
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Speaker 4: champions right. Oh wait, no, it's the Eagles. So it's fun.
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Speaker 4: It's like, just take it, just take it off season,
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Speaker 4: It's totally fun. Ever since a j Man to Chicago,
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Speaker 4: the only team that's ever won a championship is the
53:14
Speaker 4: is the White Sox and Cubs. So good for the
53:17
Speaker 4: Cubs making a move. That's why were my Cubs hat today.
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Speaker 4: They're a big market team, big market city.
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Speaker 1: See where the Bears go this year, Baseball City.
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Speaker 3: They went further than the Eagles and they beat the
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Speaker 3: this year. I was talking about this. I'm not here
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Speaker 3: to talk about the past.
53:35
Speaker 2: But it's a baseball seat because that's what the titles are.
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Speaker 2: One Yeah, baseball Baseball City. I think we all on
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Speaker 2: that one thing, Baseball City, where the titles are one
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Speaker 2: Baseball City. Guest list for the rest of the week
53:48
Speaker 2: on our way out here tomorrow, Ken Rosenthal, Craig Stammon,
53:51
Speaker 2: and Rowdy Telez Wednesday. Sean Armstrong, Mason Miller, and Grayson
53:57
Speaker 2: Rodriguez are scheduled for Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Ken's back on Friday, him a fill in the rest
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Speaker 1: of those.
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Speaker 3: Time before we go we're talking about. I was at
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Speaker 3: the Bears game. As everyone knows, dip Shit Derek if
54:05
Speaker 3: you watch Stranger Things, was on the sideline. He's like,
54:08
Speaker 3: he's like a young kid, and I wanted to meet
54:10
Speaker 3: him when I because I saw him and I I
54:11
Speaker 3: was kind of away from me a little bit, and
54:14
Speaker 3: I was like, if I go up to him, do
54:16
Speaker 3: I call him Dipshit Derek because that's his name in
54:19
Speaker 3: the show. Do you say, hey, you're dipshit Derek.
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Speaker 1: You should say that, but like, is that is.
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Speaker 3: That it's respectful, but like I don't know what his
54:27
Speaker 3: real name is. Hey, you're dipshit Derek.
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Speaker 2: But that's like going up to half the music artists
54:31
Speaker 2: that have names, Like you don't have to say their
54:32
Speaker 2: real name, you just say what they are.
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Speaker 3: But they're adults, Yeah, they're adults. Is a kid?
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Speaker 1: See, I don't know what. I don't know he's he's
54:39
Speaker 1: an actual kid.
54:39
Speaker 3: It's not like, yeah, he's a kid. I mean he
54:41
Speaker 3: went he was delightful Derek for about five minutes, but
54:43
Speaker 3: then he went back to being a dipshit in the show.
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Speaker 1: Wow. See, I know nothing.
54:46
Speaker 3: It's the same everybody.
54:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone wanted me to say happy sleep but I
54:53
Speaker 2: can't say it Sleepier.
54:55
Speaker 1: They were like, I hope you say it to AJ today.
54:57
Speaker 3: I was like, too late, we made the rules.
54:59
Speaker 1: I can't do it.
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Speaker 3: Someone said it to me today and I was like,
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Speaker 3: John Hart. You know you guys know John Hart. Is
55:04
Speaker 3: he said Happy New Year?
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Speaker 1: And you tell him John, I just I know you
55:08
Speaker 1: signed me back in the day. But on accepted, all right,
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Speaker 1: we'll see it. Tuesday m