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Feeling the Vibes with Katie Thurston · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Hello everybody, Welcome to the first in
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  Speaker 1: season episode of the Almost Famous podcast four years in
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  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So, guys, we have Katie Thurston
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  Speaker 1: season to recap episode one. I gotta say I was
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  Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised. I'll be honest. I think based on our
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  Speaker 1: podcast last week, you may know that my expectations were
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  Speaker 1: kind of low. And I'll say that from the scenes
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  Speaker 1: from the rest of the season, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: we're having we're getting anything monumental or totally different. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is a nice group of guys,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that I'm getting tatious season vibes from them,
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  Speaker 1: so I think they'll be fun to watch. Ben Higgins,
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  Speaker 1: what is your initial impression of Katie's season? My initial
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  Speaker 1: imp Russian. Well, here's the truth. I'll be honest. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: it's so much more fun. Yeah. My my honest opinion
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  Speaker 1: is it was kind of what I said last week.
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  Speaker 1: I think Katie is going to be really great. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's uh gonna be very likable. I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: like I still got to know anything more about her,
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  Speaker 1: which is why Big announcement. We have Katie coming on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast today right now, on this episode. After this segment,
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor at herself will be here. But to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell Katie this, I don't feel like I
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  Speaker 1: know anything about her. I don't feel like I knew
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  Speaker 1: anything more about her from watching this episode. I enjoy
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  Speaker 1: her again. I think she has a lot of Caitlin
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  Speaker 1: Bristow in her. I think she's gonna be a very
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  Speaker 1: likable character. I think we're gonna relate with her in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I think she's gonna take it seriously,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna be funny, and she's gonna allow these
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  Speaker 1: guys to relax a lot, which I would always say
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  Speaker 1: was Caitlin's best maybe best skill set for me personally,
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  Speaker 1: was just that she allowed me to relax and be
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  Speaker 1: myself and say stupid stuff and do stupid stuff, and
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  Speaker 1: and But in terms of the episode itself, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was fine. But if anybody's listening to this thing
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  Speaker 1: for four years, they've heard now eight different times from
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  Speaker 1: me because of eight different seasons we had. I think
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  Speaker 1: episode one is the worst episode of them all. Always,
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  Speaker 1: No matter what, I don't I'm just not a fan
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  Speaker 1: of episode ones because they just there. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for the season to start, and then the
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  Speaker 1: episode one hits and it's a little anti climatic, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm more of this episode five to the end type
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  Speaker 1: of guy. I know. I mean same here. I think like,
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  Speaker 1: I like the fact that this wasn't so like kitchy
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  Speaker 1: and there weren't a lot of limo exits that were
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  Speaker 1: like trying to be showy or overly funny and wacky.
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  Speaker 1: So I liked that. Um, I think I got to
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  Speaker 1: get to know Katie a little bit more just by
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  Speaker 1: the guys that she was showing interest in, Like she
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  Speaker 1: loved the cat and I love that she loved the
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  Speaker 1: cats so much. There's a moment watching this episode where
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, I already like Katie. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: like don't know her, but I like her. And then
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  Speaker 1: the guys that she showed the most like, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the most handsome guys, it wasn't the guys that strutted
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  Speaker 1: in and tried to be smooth, the guys that she
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  Speaker 1: showed the most interesting in where the guys I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I could hang out with that dude. Like she seems
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  Speaker 1: to just want to have a good time. He seems
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  Speaker 1: to be somebody that would make life interesting. Like I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm I'm enjoying watching that. Yet You've
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  Speaker 1: made a good point. We got to know her more
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  Speaker 1: this episode by the guy she was interested in. HM. Alright, well,
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  Speaker 1: we are going to get Katie on in a second,
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  Speaker 1: but before we do that, let's take one quick break.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be back with Katie the Bachelorette. We just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that the first part of the podcast that we have
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  Speaker 1: a very special guest today. In fact, I couldn't think
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  Speaker 1: of a more special guest than who is on the
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  Speaker 1: podcast right now. Katie the Bachelor is here. Welcome Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Katie. We had just mentioned at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: I we've made it very clear to anybody listening we're
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  Speaker 1: fans of you for multiple reasons, mostly just who you
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  Speaker 1: are and what we think you can do in this role. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But if I'm going to be honest with you about something,
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  Speaker 1: there's one thing that's been difficult to process coming up
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  Speaker 1: for this season. I don't feel like we know you
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  Speaker 1: as well as others that have been on the lead. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. You're you know, not there as long
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  Speaker 1: as some others. Uh. You know, Matt season had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things going on, a lot of conversations that
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  Speaker 1: had that weren't focused as much on the contestants in
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  Speaker 1: their backstories. And then I watched episode one and I
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  Speaker 1: still don't feel like I know you as much as
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  Speaker 1: I want to. So if I gave you one minute
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  Speaker 1: right now to tell the listeners and myself and Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: who you are a support person, why we should get
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  Speaker 1: behind you, what would you say? I mean? For me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a regular person. And I think that's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be in this role. As people
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  Speaker 1: get to see things that I've gone through and relate
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  Speaker 1: to that. There's gonna be some really tough conversations, but
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  Speaker 1: important ones that happened, and um yeah, people are gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to know me more than they did. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately on Matt season. There's more to me than just
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  Speaker 1: this like sex positive girl, Like I'm I have a
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  Speaker 1: serious I I have an emotional side, a sensitive side.
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  Speaker 1: Are you annoyed that they've made sex such a storyline
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  Speaker 1: or did you kind of know going into this season
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  Speaker 1: that you were going to have that be your theme
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  Speaker 1: because you walked in with a vibrator and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of your theme on Matt season, I fully expected
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  Speaker 1: there to be some you know, jokes around sex. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But I will say that there's some important conversations that
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  Speaker 1: come up about sex this season that I'm actually very
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  Speaker 1: excited to have with Fashion Nation. What do you hope
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if this is a storyline that you kind
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  Speaker 1: of walked into, and I mean, I know when I
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  Speaker 1: started my season, I didn't really know what this overarching
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  Speaker 1: story was going to be other than the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I felt like unlovable, Like I knew that was gonna stick,
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  Speaker 1: just because that was kind of the thing. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: so I had to and I'm sure you did, but
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  Speaker 1: I had to process, like what do I want out
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  Speaker 1: of this? Like what do I hope this represents? What
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  Speaker 1: do you hope your storyline represents? I mean, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many different things with that. I mean, I want people
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  Speaker 1: to see a love story, and I'll say there's more
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  Speaker 1: than one that happened, um. But more importantly, these men
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  Speaker 1: have great stories and I'm really excited for Bastination to
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  Speaker 1: get to know them as well. Um. And so you
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  Speaker 1: know that's what the show is about is watching people
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  Speaker 1: fall in love, watching these stories, and a little less
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  Speaker 1: of what we saw, you know, last season unfortunately, And
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  Speaker 1: my hope is that this does feel like a refresh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, back to back to basics, you know what
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  Speaker 1: this is all about. Um, there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 1: virgin storylines over the past six years, ever since well
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  Speaker 1: but I don't want to say it, but me, um,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there's a little bit of a double
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  Speaker 1: standard for the girl versus the guy. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: only real well known guy virgin from the show is Colton,
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  Speaker 1: and well that took a turn, and now we see
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  Speaker 1: there's a male virgin on your season. When you hear that,
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  Speaker 1: are you like, oh that's not sexy or you like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can get down with that. I will say, the
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  Speaker 1: moment I found out, you guys will be probably surprised,
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  Speaker 1: just as I was in my reaction. I'll just leave
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  Speaker 1: it at that. But I mean, and clarify for me
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  Speaker 1: because I am not even a lot of these things.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, I'm thirty two years old now, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: learning when you when you say you're sex positive, that
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  Speaker 1: includes the discussions about understanding where people are at and
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  Speaker 1: that that's not just saying like, if you are actively
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  Speaker 1: out there having sex, like you're out of my circle. Right, Oh? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean if you're a virgin, that's fine, that's your choice.
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  Speaker 1: Sex positive is just about talking about it, being comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with it, and not making it this like taboo topic
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  Speaker 1: that's off limits and like no one wants to discuss it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's something that should be just a normal
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  Speaker 1: conversation amongst adults. It's awesome. Besides that component of you
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  Speaker 1: know what you stand for? What do you feel like? Why?
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  Speaker 1: What are the main reasons that you think the producers
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  Speaker 1: chose you to be the bachelor at You know, I
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  Speaker 1: just think I'm in a good place in my life,
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  Speaker 1: given like my age and my confidence, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: ready to really settle down. You know, when they asked me,
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  Speaker 1: I certainly was surprised because you know, Ben, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you hardly got to know me, and that's right. There
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  Speaker 1: were so many women who lasted longer who are just
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  Speaker 1: as deserving. Um. But I think for me, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: in the place in my life where I'm ready and
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  Speaker 1: I'm open and I know that this can work. I think, Uh, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was a shocking choice because we didn't know you,
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  Speaker 1: but I do see how it fits. One of those
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  Speaker 1: ways it it is. There's just a lot of uh
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  Speaker 1: for the for the best of reasons, and there's not
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  Speaker 1: many negative I could speak of. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristol qualities that you and her share, Like you're
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  Speaker 1: very like and just like and I and I said
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  Speaker 1: this before you came on. One of the thing that
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  Speaker 1: stood out to me most about Caitlin Bristow was she
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  Speaker 1: allowed the contestants to be comfortable, like from the get go,
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  Speaker 1: Like she just allowed me to take a deep breath
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  Speaker 1: and be Okay, I don't have to be put together
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  Speaker 1: all the time. You did that in episode one. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that stood out to me
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  Speaker 1: was like, I know I like Katie now, I really
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  Speaker 1: like Katie because you showed interest and some of the
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  Speaker 1: guys that, like in past seasons maybe wouldn't get as
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  Speaker 1: much attention, like the guy with the cat sue. Um,
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  Speaker 1: is that just who you're attracted to? Like what like
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like you can make people comfortable? There?
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  Speaker 1: Is that kind of one of your goals? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think for me, I don't have a type when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to physical appearance, and so I really had to
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  Speaker 1: get to know these guys on a personal level. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you see the people I did in the past,
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  Speaker 1: it all look very different. And so whereas you say
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  Speaker 1: like the cat costume or like the shy guy, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just very open and getting to know their hearts.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to add that you're kind of similar
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  Speaker 1: to Tatia as a bachelorette in the way that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're a little nervous before the first couple of guys
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  Speaker 1: came out of the limo. You can sense that, but
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  Speaker 1: once you've got in the group of things, it felt
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  Speaker 1: like you were super comfortable in your skin conducting the crowd,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I think do you
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  Speaker 1: feel that way? Yeah? Initially it was obviously very scary
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  Speaker 1: when I thought I was doing it alone as well,
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  Speaker 1: but when Tatsia and Caitlin kind of surprised me, that
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  Speaker 1: was a big weight lifted. Then the guys started making
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  Speaker 1: me laugh that just kind of broke the ice as well,
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  Speaker 1: and by the end of the night, I was just like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: this night just flew by. Did you feel did you
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  Speaker 1: think that there's gonna be any host? And how do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about being the first Bachelor Bachelorette season that
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison doesn't host. Yeah, when I went into it,
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  Speaker 1: nobody told me anything, and so I really did think
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  Speaker 1: I was doing it alone, or I thought maybe alumni
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  Speaker 1: would show up here and there for dates or whatever. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm standing there and I mean you can see
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  Speaker 1: with my expression like I am shocked and overwhelmed with
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  Speaker 1: emotion that not only do I get one bachelor, I
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  Speaker 1: had too who are they're helping me? And so to
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  Speaker 1: have them there, it really it really made a difference
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  Speaker 1: for me in moments where I thought I was going
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  Speaker 1: to give up the there was a moment and that
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  Speaker 1: I think I always love to ask the leads. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's a moment when you're standing there and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, I feel like television, as Ashley just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: we could see you take a deep breath and get comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: But that was also a moment for me where I
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  Speaker 1: was standing in front of all the women, the head
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  Speaker 1: came and it felt more like a dream than ever,
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  Speaker 1: Like I almost broke down with emotion on just like
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  Speaker 1: the idea of like how am I here? Not that
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  Speaker 1: like this is the coolest, craziest thing I've ever like
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  Speaker 1: that life can ever bring you. But like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I like I was chosen. I feel like people
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  Speaker 1: said they wanted to be here for me. What was
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  Speaker 1: that moment like for you to stand up in front
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  Speaker 1: of them? Uh and two days before you weren't the
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  Speaker 1: bachelor right yet, but that moment you were the bachelor
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  Speaker 1: with all those guys that had arrived, I mean yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it was like a dream. And even
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  Speaker 1: leading into it, it was very hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: even say it out loud, like I'm Katie on the Bachelors,
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  Speaker 1: Like what is my life? And even now that we're done,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still kind of looking at it like this is
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  Speaker 1: so crazy, like watch me on TV and like that
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  Speaker 1: that was my whole journey, Like it just flew by.
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  Speaker 1: We saw that Matt had such an issue, um kind
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  Speaker 1: of I don't. I don't know what he would the
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  Speaker 1: exact issue was, but like he never had that healthy
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  Speaker 1: relationship role model in his life, okay, right, so he
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  Speaker 1: was like always scared about whether he was going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to do it. And then you say at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode that your parents that you
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  Speaker 1: didn't you didn't really have that with your parents. Your
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  Speaker 1: parents divorced when you were a baby. So do you
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  Speaker 1: have any of those fears or do you always feel
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  Speaker 1: like you're somebody who wanted to be married. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be married, I think, I just I'm hesitant. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why at thirty I'm still single, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to end up like my parents did. But also
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  Speaker 1: in that you don't watch what a healthy marriage looks like.
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  Speaker 1: And so for me, the our mistakes I've made in
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  Speaker 1: the past, that maybe howd I witnessed what a positive
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  Speaker 1: relationship looks like. I would know, you know, red flags
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  Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for, and what's you know
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  Speaker 1: working and what's not Katie, there's one thing that we
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  Speaker 1: can point to though, that you know that we all
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  Speaker 1: know you do very very well. Um, so you obviously
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  Speaker 1: know how to have a relationship somehow because you have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of friends. I watch you on Instagram and
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  Speaker 1: you're surrounded by friends. Well, since we can and since
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  Speaker 1: the world's opened up all the time, Um, what did
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  Speaker 1: your friends think? And like, how have they supported you
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  Speaker 1: through this? I mean they're excited for me and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like this social butterfly. Uh. In fact, in high
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  Speaker 1: school I was voted most likely to be on reality TV,
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  Speaker 1: so they weren't even actually surprised. I know, it's so crazy,
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  Speaker 1: that's so funny. Okay, So you talked about relations you know,
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  Speaker 1: not having those role models. How many series relationships have
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  Speaker 1: you have? You have you had in the past. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that one of the guys looks like your ex.
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  Speaker 1: Did you think that as a good thing, like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, he's gonna ruin me all over again, or
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  Speaker 1: is that a bad thing? No, he looked like my
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  Speaker 1: high school sweetheart, so there were some good vibes with that.
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  Speaker 1: But I had I would say three serious relationships where
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  Speaker 1: we lived together. Um, you know, there was a boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: where I was going to buy a house with him.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always very seriously dated and so to be
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  Speaker 1: exposed to thirty mental at the same time, that was
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  Speaker 1: more guys than I've ever been exposed to in my
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  Speaker 1: entire life. So it's very different. Now, Katie, let's enter
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  Speaker 1: into breaking down episode one just a bit with you here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we we've now seen episode one, We're into the season,
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  Speaker 1: We're into the groove of this whole thing. As the
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  Speaker 1: season starts, then this happens with every lease You're not
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  Speaker 1: alone in this. There's gonna be something right now in
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  Speaker 1: the back of your head that you're like, I'm nervous about. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm anxious about. I don't know if I want people
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  Speaker 1: to see you. I don't know if I want the
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  Speaker 1: public discussing it. Um. That happened for me for weeks.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I have more hair than now than I
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  Speaker 1: did when I got off the show. Um. And that's
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  Speaker 1: not a lie, that's true, Katie. What's sitting out there
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  Speaker 1: right now? And if you can't go into details, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: But what's sitting out there that you're most nervous about.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing really comes to mind right away. I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like I'm going to be watching this and
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  Speaker 1: learn things that I could have done better. As a
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  Speaker 1: generic statement, you know, there's this one moment where there's
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  Speaker 1: a miscommunication and I'm I'm very interested in watching it
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  Speaker 1: back and seeing, you know, was I in the wrong
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  Speaker 1: or what was he or how could it have been
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  Speaker 1: handled better? What about that scene where you're like, book
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  Speaker 1: my flight, I'm out of here. That's dramatic, you saying
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  Speaker 1: to the guys, if you're not here for the right reasons,
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  Speaker 1: get out. Well, we hear that every season, but book
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  Speaker 1: my flight, not every season. Give us a little teeth.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like I was losing control out
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  Speaker 1: of everything that was happening around me, and I started
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  Speaker 1: to doubt my entire experience and I was just done.
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  Speaker 1: I was exhausted mentally. I wanted to leave for sure. Okay,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I wish I would have said that. And then your season,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: per Rumers wrapped about a week early. So I mean,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: did your book your flight? Did they book it? Yeah? There.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I think when you guys see the uh,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the ending of things that all kind of makes sense
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: on on why everything happened the way it did. This is, uh,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get really good at dodging these questions.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, but there's so many different spins and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: twists that people will try to put on you. Uh. Well,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: we're excited to watch alongside you this whole time, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: we don't want to spoil anything. But one thing you
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: had mentioned before. You know, Matt's season had a lot
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: of topics discussed, and there's a lot of things that
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: happened in the midst of Matt's season, uh that have
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: now you know, had some type of consequence good or
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: bad on your season, right, Chris Harrison isn't there. But
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: one of the big things that stood out during that
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: season was the drama, and it was a focus of
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the show. And here almost famous we were critical of that.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: We didn't know who to blame, if it was the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: show itself or if it was the cast. And then
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: we watch your preview and it looked really great at first,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: and then it looks really dramatic with a lot of
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: fights and a lot of arguments. Um, can you just
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: let us know, like, is this season what is it
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be like Matt's with the cast or does it
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: feel like a refresher? I think you guys are actually
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: gonna see a bromance like never seen before. The bond
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that these guys have is it's very fun to watch.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course there is some drama, but you know, overall,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going to be the theme.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Ben, how we thought that Tatia's season
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: was so great because it was genuinely generally drama free. Um,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like watching your teaser, it's actually a big
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: fake out to us because I can like sense by
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: watching these so many times it's like they used the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Ambulance as drama. That's not really going to be drama.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: They use Blake as drama. I don't think Blake's going
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to be drama. I think Blake probably comes in next
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: week and he's not a huge splash with the guys
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: because he comes in early enough. I think a lot
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of the drama that we've seen in The Teacher is
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: gonna be fake drama. And I'm getting more Tasha vibes,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like we're actually going to see more of the love
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: and relationships developed. And I think that overall, in general,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: we get more of the love and connection through the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Bachelorette franchise and we usually do with the Bachelor. Yeah,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you that someone someone who's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: watched the show, the bachelorettes are always, you know a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: little more successful in finding their person. And so I
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: do hope that there is more love stories than any
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: kind of drama, for sure. Yeah, I hope. So Also
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it's more fun to watch, and I will and I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: don't mean I mean, I think you're gonna be your
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: own person. You're gonna shine in this in your own
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: unique way. We just haven't seen it yet. Um, because
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we've only seen one episode, but with with Caitlin, which
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: is who right now? I see the most with Ashley
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: will say Asha her season was fairly drama free because
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of who she was. She allowed the space for us
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to talk, She allowed us to be ourselves. She welcomed
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the friendships, she didn't fight against them and get jealous
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of them. And uh and so far, after watching episode one,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like you you're going to do the same. Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to be a good experience for everybody,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and I don't want anyone to be distracted by the drama.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You know, we're all here for one reason, so let's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: make the best of it. And I think that's really
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: what happened. All right, let's get into the nitty gritty
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of episode one. My biggest question after wrapping the episode
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: for you was I loved Greg. Thought Greg was awesome,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: one of my favorites. I'm going to put him into
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the top three that Ben is going to ask me
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to predict later. But I really felt a stronger connection
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: with the cont with with the cat Connor. I was
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: shocked to see you picked Greg over Connor. Be Um
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: what went into that decision? Um? Was there something with
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: your conversation with Greg that we didn't see that that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: did make him rise above what you had with Connor,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: because Connor and that kiss and the black nose and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you guys were like that physical chemistry was intense. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: mean you can view the first impression Rose as you know,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: reassuring somebody or encouraging someone you know. And with with
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Connor the cat as I call him, um, I think
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: our connection was very obvious and I didn't think that validation,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: where with Greg he was so nervous. In fact, you
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: only saw just a brief moment of his exits and
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the limo of just how nervous he was. And I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: just loved that he was himself and not trying to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: be too cool or put on any gimmicks, like he
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: was just like I'm scared, you know. And I was like, look,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: here's a Rose know that I'm interested in you. Get
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: rid of that those nerves and let's you know, figure
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: out who you are really Okay, So for you, this
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: was the reassurance Rose, maybe not necessarily you're my most connection, Rose. Yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you want to call it a reassurance Rose that that's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: probably pretty accurate. I think that's super sweet. Because it
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: is they're wracking. And when you stand up there and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: somebody gets out of limo and they're not nervous, it
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: actually kind of feels weird. It's like, I remember my moment,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I was so nervous, right, How are you so confident
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: right now? Like there's got what have you done? Who
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: are you? Um? I I do think I know maybe
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: why Connor didn't get the first impression or as though
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: why he did something. Maybe the only thing that really
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: annoyed me this episode really so Katie him are having
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: a moment, Katie, I think you remember this, um, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you take off his cat hat and you say, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you're just as cute without the costume. Really good for you.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That was smooth, Katie, great work, um. And then Connor
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: decided to put back on the cap mittens to make
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: out with you again, like you thought it was cool.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, on it, What in the back of
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: your head is thinking at this moment, you have them off,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you have the hat off, you're already kissing. You need
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to put him back on so that her face is
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: full of fur. That that that part was weird to me.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it certainly was a moment for sure,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I can't say I've ever made out with a cat
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: like that, but it was so cute. I thought it
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: was so cute that you didn't care that all of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: his cat makeup is getting over your face. That was
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a strong connection and I'm really excited to see continue now.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: You you kissed three guys as far as what we
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: saw justin Connor and Greg. Any other guys get kisses
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that night that we didn't see. Hard to say, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: when you're there, everything kind of blends together, But I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: will say there's more to come. It does blend together.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: If somebody asked me right now, like I would be like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I have no clue. It's it's all a blur. Wait
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: till you get five years out and you're like, I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: don't remember a single thing from that whole day. Okay, well, Katie. Recently,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Ali Featowski said that if she had to give advice
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to bachelorette's, she says that you should ignore all the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: guys that you know you're keeping around for a while
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: on night one, Like if he comes out of the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: limo and he grabs your attention, you want him around
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: for a while. You got to ignore that guy on
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: night one. If you were to quote ignore some of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: those guys just out of the limos. Who would you
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: say that you should have been ignoring at the cocktail party?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Like who like really made your first impression? Like, oh
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: my god, this guy doesn't have to speak one more word.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: He is in with me for weeks. Probably Andrew s. Okay,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Andrew is on my list of going far. You pick
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Andrew with the fake accent? He was so sweet. Yes,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I have him in my top four. Um, what was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it about him? He seemed easy going, authentic. Yeah. Our
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: our connection was just very easy. You know, some people
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: are so nervous that it is a little uncomfortable to
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: try and have these conversations with him. I just felt
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: like I knew him for years. He Uh. He stood
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: out to me too. Uh and he has He's the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: football player, right, isn't that what he does? Yeah? His
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: story is unique, Like I want to I want to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: learn more about how you play football in Austria, Like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: what what is that? And I've never heard of that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a sports fan, Like what does that life look like? Um? Super,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: He's just an intriguing guy. Seems to be up to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a lot. You know who else? Uh? And I'm always
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: bad with names, uh, Katie, so please forgive me here.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to make anything the artist um and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: yeah like that. That's impressive to me that somebody would
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: do that thinking about it beforehand, and then also spend
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: their time during quarantine. I was like, that's who I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: want to be. I want to be the guy in
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: quarantine painting. Like, what a break from life you get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to create art? Why? You know, for me, I sit
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in my hotel room and watching Netflix. Yeah, when he
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: showed me that piece, I thought he was joking, was like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I painted this for you. I was like, ah ha ha, yeah, okay,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm serious, And I was just so
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: impressed with how talented he is. You were such, like, um,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a supportive person in your bachelor house. You know, you
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: were the one standing up for other people. Do you
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: feel like the dynamic is any different when you have
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: a group of girls living together versus a group of guys.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like guys can move on more easily than women,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and so I think that does change the dynamics of drama.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I know there were some moments that have
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: happened that were then quickly forgotten about. You know, during
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: our time together. And there's moments I still haven't seen,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you know, like in the house or in their interviews
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that maybe like the night one I didn't even know
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that Cody and Aaron spoke about their dislike for each
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: other speaking thinking about that, What a weird moment. It
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: was like thirty seconds of I don't like you, I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: haven't liked you since I first met you, as if
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like they met months ago. It seems super out of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: context and as if it was just like thrown in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: there for drama. I don't know what was up with that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Is that going to be a storyline that continues? You think?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I will say, that's just a little intro to uh
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: their dynamic for sure. Yeah, that's that was weird. That
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: was one of the weirder That was one of the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: weirder coverage stations I've ever seen on on this show.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And there's been some odd ones. Hey Katie, we have
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: just a few minutes left with you. Uh. And Ashley
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: always likes to play a game as a tradition here
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: it's almost fumosus podcast um with the new leads. But
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I also like to take a second every year and
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: have a moment with you and I'm really interested. Katie.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You're sitting there in the seat right now. You're doing
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: interviews all day. Um, you're probably tired. Your first episode
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette has now aired and you were known
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: across the country as the Bachelorette. Your life has changed dramatically,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: if if human to human? How are you doing? I mean,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you say my life's changed dramatically, but it hasn't. Think
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: it could it will? I don't know. I think for now,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I still just feel grounded so far. I mean it's early.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I know I'm heading into something. I have no clue
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: what to expect. But for now, I'm good. I feel good.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But I know there's like this, I don't know, this
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: new chapter coming, this new storm. Maybe it's not a storm.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you? What are you leaning
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on to stay grounded? I mean, things are about to
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: change for you, and um, it's just inevitable, Like your
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: face is going to be on the cover of magazines
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and you're going to be on commercials and you're gonna
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: get a lot of praise. You're also gonna leave a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: lot of criticism. It comes with the territory, Like how
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: are you going to stay stay where you're at now.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have great friends and family that are
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: keeping me grounded. I'm in the bachelorette group chat that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: we have, which I think is really cool. It's just
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: all of us in one thread, um, just supporting each other,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: all the bachelorettes, every single every single bachelorrette. Wow, that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: so cool. Well, what's the best piece of advice from
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that group chat? Um? I mean, so far, it's just
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: been like, don't read the comments basically, m that's good advice. Okay, Katie.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So we have a new tradition here. My mom growing
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: up always used to try to figure out whether my
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: sister and I really liked somebody by saying their name,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and then we'd have to try our very hardest to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: say their name with the straight face, and if we
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: couldn't do it, that meant that we like probably kind
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of liked them. So I'm going to give you some
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: names here, and yeah, you're on camera and you're being recorded,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and these are the guys that I think might make
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: you smile. And then maybe I'll throw in some random
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: ones in there too. Okay, are you ready? I'm ready? James, James,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Andrew Andrew. That was harder Connor b Connor b Oh,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that was even harder. Greg, Greg, Justin, Justin, Gabriel Gabriel. Um, oh,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Who's who's this? Who's the one? Ben? There's no bed,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: there's no bad for constant, for a constant Ben, Ben, Thomas, Thomas,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Michael A, Michael A and mhmm, last one, Blake Lake,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: last one, Courtney, Courtney and Christian Christian. All right, Katie,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I do think you have a better poker face than
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Matt did. But I think I'm also going to over
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: analyze this tape and we'll get back to you on
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: who we think you're gonna choose next week. You're gonna
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: be super now. I know you're gonna be. That's gonna
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: be on the back of your mind is who does
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Ashley and Ben choose for me? Watching me smile? Well, Katie, uh,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: your pleasure. You're awesome. We wish you the best, reach
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: out if you need anything. Thanks for coming on, um,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: stay strong and until the whole team around you, because
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I know there is probably a bunch of eyes listening
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and watching right now that actually and I say, Hi, Hey,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: wish you the best, Katie, Thank you so much, bye bye.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So obviously we just had the expert of the season
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: she knows all, and she stayed uh, very I didn't
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: get a lot of read on Katie on what how
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this like season went and who she ends up with,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: if anybody, from that interview. But I mean in great interview,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I think, like incredible to do. I just don't know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Like I don't feel like I know anymore um after
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: listening to her, you know, but I do feel like
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: she uh she said something there and I would agree
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: with her because she said it about herself, so it
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: would be weird if I didn't. But she seems she
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: seems very grounded, and she seems uh, she seems like like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like she said, a very normal human who got placed
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: in a really weird situation, which is always the best
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: type of people for this gig. HM. Totally agree, Totally agree.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So I want to go through my biggest takeaways as
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: far as our recap goes, because I wrote guys names
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: down and I'm really bad with names the first couple
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of episodes, so I kind of like find celebrity lookalikes
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: for them, or I get to know them based on like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: well they had a really sweaty face or whatnot. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: do you want to go down my list and then
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: we can chat about these standouts. Yeah, take it away
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: for a bit, because I got some questions for you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: based on the episode. I really want to talk to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you about, uh, your thoughts on Caitlin and Tasia. That's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: obviously gonna be a big storyline. I want to talk
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: about this new location that they're in, uh kind of
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you know obviously some of the guys that stood out
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to you. So I do want to get your top three,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: but before we do, let's take it away with your
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: your show notes, your clip notes. The cat slash teacher Connor,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: who we talked about a good amount with Katie like
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: he's one of my big standouts. For some reason, he
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: was really able to pull off the costume. You know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we've seen so many costumes in the past and they
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: don't always play as well. But man, she really liked that,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and I thought that he was just so endearing and
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: so sweet and genuinely seemed to be very into her.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Did some background research on her. There was a real
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: physical and I'd like a chemical connection there. He's going
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: real far. I loved the Boston guy, Christian, who I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: already said is Jared's future best friend because he likes
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: parades and just wants to drive the batmobile and he's
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: from Boston. I don't know that he's going to hang
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: around for a while, but I think he's one of
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the cuter guys. Then there was who I called the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: accent guy, who is Andrew big, stand out, super sweet.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I genuinely bought the accent. I wouldn't have thought otherwise,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: would you have? No? No, he was really really good, Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: really good. And then there was Marcus, who I just
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: think it's super sweet and I um named him as
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Just looking at his picture. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: think he has that sweet puppy dog face and it translates. Ashley,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: You're you're using a word right now that we need
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to uh kind of focus on because we don't always
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: do well. Yeah, and that's fine, that's no, that's great.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: It's a great descriptor. But well, but most seasons, when
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we watch the first episode, I mean there's been many
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: times where like, these guys are arrogant, these guys are cocky,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: these guys are trying too hard, these guys are acting
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like they're you know, the cats me out. But you're
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: saying sweet, which does remind me of Tatious season because
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: that's how we were describing the guys from her season. Um,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But it's not like that always like it's sometimes there's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: been breakdowns that we've had after episode one where we've
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: been like, I don't know, like these guys just seem
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like they want to take their shirt off and post
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. M hmm. There wasn't like a lot of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: big egos from what I've seen so far. I liked Thomas.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: He did have a really super greasy, sweaty face. Um,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: but he's like a very like classically handsome man who
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be around for a while.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Then there was Gabriel, who looks like Orlando Bloom but
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: he got like no airtime. But he did really turn
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: her on as he exited the limo, Like she looked
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: at Tassia and Caitlin and she was like, oh, yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: he's hot. And then there's Greg And I liked Greg
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a lot because yeah, he was so nervous, but like
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: leaned into being nervous, like Katie said. He also made
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that adorable necklace made out of pasta or he didn't
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: make it, the niece made it and gave it to
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: her and then said like, I don't know if you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: but it's not real gold, and that was funny. I
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: think it shows that he has a really great sense
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of humor that we're going to get to know about her.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Trey was the guy with the trunk full of balls,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and I think they had a really nice connection as well,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and he came across very sweets endearing. She kissed Justin,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and I noticed that Justin has a lot of scenes
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in the next episodes. You know, they show him a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: lot in the teasers, so I think he's going to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: be a prominent a prominent character. However, I didn't feel
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the chemistry between them enough in that moment for him
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to go for such a sloppy kiss. The way he
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: did that seemed like he was coming on a little
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: bit too strong. But maybe there was stuff from that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: scene that was missing a bit. Do you remember this kiss?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: The first kiss air? Yeah, you know, it's hard to
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: judge kisses at this point. I was hard on Matt
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: James for kissing with his eyes open, and people seem
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: to kind of find that fine. And you know, you
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: get a camera up in your face with people watching
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you start kissing I'm going to give all these guys
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a little grace on night one and a. If it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: week five and there's still like, you know, missing her lips,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: then we'll give some criticism. But at this point you
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just went in for it, and that's that's a big move. Hey,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: he was not missing her lips. There was a lot
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of lip locking in that. Then there was James in
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the Box. Now very funny. A couple of weeks ago,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: when we saw the box on the cast list, we
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: thought that that was going to be Blake, right, We're like, oh, Blake,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, it was not Blake. It was
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a guy named James, and she liked this costume as well.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It really responded well. He was getting pushed around all
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: night long and then he revealed himself in a room privately,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and I think he went over quite well. It gave
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: me so much anxiety. It's like, oh, I'm so claustrophobic,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and the idea that he was in a box for
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: as long as he was like it just like literally
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: like it's one of the only cringe worthy moments from
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: this episode for me, was like just seeing the box
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: roll up one and then seeing him not get out
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: of the box too, and then being in the mansion
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: or the house whatever the resort with the box very
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: hard for me to like watch m Okay, I get it,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: that is pretty custrophobic, but it really worked for him
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: because she seemed so attracted to him. So I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: that he goes far as well. There's somebody in the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: house that is the villain, right, there's somebody that all
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the guys want out of the house. I do not
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be Blake. I think Blake goes in
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: really early. I think he goes in really early. Like
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I said, probably next week doesn't create a whole bunch
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of drama. But I think there's another guy in there
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that all the guys want out. Don't know who it is.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Don't know if it's the guy that says it's like
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: he's there for followers. I mean, it could be him.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm my vote is being strongly cast behind. Uh
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the guy who went to the dude. I was like, hey,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I don't like you because I don't know. Yeah, I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: don't really know if I want to get to know
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: his name, but um, he because then he walked in
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: through him. It wasn't even him going up to somebody
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: being like, hey, I don't like you. It was, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: then he walked into the room and his like his
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: like hypocritical side came out where he's like, loosen up, guys,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he's a party. It's like you're the one that just
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: like totally like corner to dude was like, I don't
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like you. I don't know this this character he has
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a story coming. Um, so I'm putting my behind him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Was that guy's name Aaron, the insurance salesman from San Diego.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the castle list. I have to go
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: back and rewatch that scene. I don't know people know
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: who were talking about? Okay um. And then the other
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: guy I think is worth mentioning is Michael a. He
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: looks like Sean Hayes to me, and he has a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: kid who is staying with his parents. So that makes
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: me feel like maybe the mom isn't as involved and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: he's the primary caretaker for his child. And I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that was Actually that led to a pretty revealing conversation
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: with Katie when she said, like she can kind of
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: like take kids or leave them. She's kind of happy
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: what a however way her life turns out. Yeah, it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: was it was. It was a special moment. I liked him. Um,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So if we're going to as we do every episode, uh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: start your top three Ashley and Eddie, who would it be? Okay,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: so it's going to be Andrew Connor, b and Greg Fair.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I I couldn't disagree with any of those. Um. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: think it's a great choice. So we'll mark that and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: then next week I'll ask you the same question after
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: episode two. Uh, Ashley, you're a resident Bachelor expert. Uh what?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And you have strong feelings on the tradition of the show.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: We've now seen Nim mccollin. We've also seen Laquinta. We're
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: now seeing a brand new resort in New Mexico. Ashley,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about just I mean the setup
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: so far after night one, Um, it looks kind of
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: like desert and deserted, and I guess I prefer more
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of a nimical and look like at the temperate forest
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: fall feel. This looks like really dry flatland, not a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: lot of colors. So we're gonna go based on that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, the aesthetic can be cool. Um, I don't
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: know if we're gonna get like a whole variety of
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: scenery though. Yeah, yeah, I mean Nimicle and just kind
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of blewed out of the water like that night. That
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: night one we watched and it was like breathtaking just
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: seeing the backdrop of the resort behind it, and I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: mean this didn't have that. Now we'll wait and see
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: as the episodes continue kind of what kind of dates
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: they can put on there and how it looks. Um.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: But I would say right now, my vote for all
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: out of the three of them, if we're gonna rank
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: those would be Nimical number one, um, just because it
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: was it was absolutely gorgeous. Uh, this looks very similar
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: to Palm Springs. I would agree, Yeah, I would agree
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: with that. Well. Actually, this is the uh, the big
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: conversation that everybody will be having this week, UM is
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: on this is the first season that Chris Harrison doesn't host,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and you have two new mentors, Hayleen Bristow and Tatia Adams,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: who are there with her now there. Actually, I want
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: to ask you and the audience because I remember during
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: my season, uh, and I you know, I don't know
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: if it was joking, I don't know if they were serious,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but some of the girls from my season, like they
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: would have a crush on Chris Harrison, they would tell
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: me that right, or they would have they would have
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a crush on one of the producers. Now that steps
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: into some murky water, because there has been storylines in
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the past where a cast member has hooked up with
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: one of the producers and they kind of leave together.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So just like if we're kind of making this just
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a lighthearted conversation, not saying anybody's gonna be doing anything. Um,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it's you know, just knowing that, hey, the cast is
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: around the hosts quite often. Do you do you would
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you be intimidated if you were the bachelorette on having
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: two former bachelor's there with you walking alongside of you.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously all beautiful, but does that add a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: weird dynamic? Listeners, I would love for you to respond
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to to this via email on Instagram just kind of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: what your thoughts would be, But actually, what do you think? Okay,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: If I'm gonna be straight up honest, I would be
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit intimidated. But the fact that these two
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: girls are in such public relationships and they are so
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: in love, then no, I'm not intimidated by the guys
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: being interested in them, Because like I know these girls
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: aren't going to be interested in the guys. Now, if
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: you had too sexy single ladies, I'd be like, Okay,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: don't look at them, please please, um stay far behind me.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, I mean yeah, it just adds. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: mean even you know when you get it, like Chris
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: is a good looking guy, the producers good looking people
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like you get it. You're just around and like the
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: lead isn't around all the time, and so you're around
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like the producers a lot more than you are the lead,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and so over time, like and you're having these like
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: very heartfelt conversations. The producers care about you, you know. Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: this is different because these girls are there for Katie.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: They're advising Katie. They're not going to be I don't
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: think mingling with the contestants that much. I think I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: do get the producer love fest, though, because you are
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: talking to them constantly and you're having such intimate, like
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: therapy sessions with them that you get so close. There
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: was times on my season when we were like, do
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I have more of a crush on so and so
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: than I do on Chris? So that's fine, but I
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: don't think that these girls are going to be playing
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that role whatsoever with the guys. Yeah, well, speaking of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Tasian Caitlin, we've watched the first episode. It's obviously just
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the first episode. But what were your thoughts on there?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're calling mentors, So what were your thoughts
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: on their mentor role um and how it played out? Well,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it's clear to me that they are like not there
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: as real hosts. Okay, so they didn't talk to the guys.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: They only said, um, here's the final rows, like if
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you didn't get a rose, say you're goodbyes, like they
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: just said classic lines like that, and otherwise they were
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: really just they're being cheerleaders for Katie. So it seems yeah,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and you and I both know this, moved on this
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: for four years together. Co hosting is not always easy.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Now you and I have had the benefit of getting
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: along in on the podcast and outside of the podcast.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: You know, uh, both of us understand that this is
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: not are you know, this doesn't survive if you're gone,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't survive if I'm gone. Um, but I would
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: imagine too, like I've co hosted stuff with people that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit more competition between Like how did
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: they decide who gets the rose seramy which night, Like
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I want to know the behind the scenes on Okay tonight,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Caitlin you say this is your final Rose, and Tasha
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you say goodbye to the guys, Like how that there
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: had to be a little bit of a difficult dynamic
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: at least starting out. I think it's just gonna swap
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: back and forth. You think those classic lines will go
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: back and forth. And I'm sure depending on the activity,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the date, the issue, they'll either come together or it'll
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be the bachelorette who dealt with more of a similar
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: situation that goes to to be to be Katie support. Yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a funny analogy. But like bachel Alive
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: on stage, like Beck and I did, we traded off
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and that was kind of how we decided to do it,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Like we had to be very clear on like, hey,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: so that I'm not always overstepping on you and you're
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: not always overstepping on me, and none of us areta
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: in competition. Let's just trade off and let's make that
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: clear upfront. Um. And it worked. You just have to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: have that communication. It feels like Tasha and Caitlin like
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: each other enough and still do that. It plays out well,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: like there's no drama between the hosts, and that's why
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Well, it was, you know, it
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: was weird to watch our first season without Chris standing
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: up there. I would say it definitely felt different to me.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it did to you or any
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of the listeners, but it felt a lot different to me.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It felt the most different to me during the opening
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: scene without his voice doing the voiceover. That's when I
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: felt kind of whacked out, um, a little bit odd
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: not having him there to like kind of give direction,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: like welcome the audience back, and then to like give
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the pep talk to the lead. I think as the
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: episode went on, they edited in such a way that
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: we would not feel like it was missed as much.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: But the beginning was definitely weird for me, and so
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: was the voiceover at the end for the scenes for
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the next episode. What did you How do you feel
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: about Caitlin and and Tatia kind of standing inside watching
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: and like commentating at all. I'm like a little bit
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: split on it. Um. It just kind of reminded me
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: of the girls watching through the window when the other
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: girls arrive on a bachelor season, right, So, it was
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: like kind of fun and giggly. I could have taken
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: it or leave it, like obviously as friends of Tatia
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and Caitlin, like I will take all their screen time,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: but like, I don't know that it really enhanced the episode.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: You know, what I was thinking is how much work
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that was for them, Like they stood at that window
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: for how many hours? Now, obviously you know Katie was
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: there the whole time, also meeting the guys, But that's
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a long time to be commentating, and it's just I'm
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be really interested to see how much we see
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: off Caitlin and Tatia as each episode goes on um
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and how involved they get and kind of how they
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: fill the gap. Yeah, that was fun, but I bet
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you it took a lot of energy because you have
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to really express in a moote. And one of my
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: favorite things that happened in this episode was not exactly
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: bachelor related, but it was the amazing trailer for one
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: of my favorite Broadway musicals, in The Heights. It's by
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel Miranda, the creator of Hamilton's. It was his
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: first Broadway show that he wrote, and it's such a good,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: feel good movie. It's so uplifting, it's family oriented, it's
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: so cultural. I love it. It's also directed by John M.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Chew who directed Crazy Rich Asians. So if you like Hamilton,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: if you like Crazy Rich Asians, this is gonna be
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: a great movie for you. Um and right now, the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: score on Rotten to Mazes is incredible on Rotten Tomatoes.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: It's the kind of movie that you want to see
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: on the big screen. So if you're comfortable going back
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: to the movies, Jared and I went to the movies
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: for the first time last week. It felt so good.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: This is the kind that you want full surround sound
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and to be completely and fully immersed into without your
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: phone being sitting there and being able to be checked
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a lot. You know how Like if you go to
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the movie theater, you just have a whole different, immersive experience.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't watch a full movie at home
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: without being distracted. So go to the theater. See in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the Heights. June tenth comes out tomorrow June tent um.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: It's PG thirteen, so you know, bring the whole family
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: out there, and it's going to be on HBO Max
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: two for thirty one days. No, it looks really good.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I'm super pumped for it. Love musicals, obviously a fan
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of both Hamilton's and Crazy Rich Asians. And then if
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: it gets round tomatoes, gotta trust it, gotta trust it. Well,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: we're in one episode now to this kind of I
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: guess new chapter um with the franchise. Uh and there
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is a headline that we want to get it into
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: this week. Um. But before we do, let's take a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: break and we come back. We're gonna talk about a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: headline that that speaks to Chris Harrison's future, at least
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: for what we assume. Um and uh. And it speaks
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to it in relation to Michelle's season that will be
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: coming up right after Katie's. But let's take a break first. Well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we just got done talking about this new chapter for
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the franchise. Um and and it seems like it's here
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: to stay. Uh, you know, like it or not, it
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: seems like it's here to stay. And this is why
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: the headline reads. And this is according to US Chris
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Harrison will likely not return from Michelle Young season of
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette. Yeah so, a source tells US Weekly that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison is likely to not be back, although final
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: decisions have not been made. The Insider notes that they
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: are currently weighing their option for a new host for
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Michelle Young season. Uh. News of this comes one day.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: This happened one day after it was confirmed that Chris
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: would not be confum coming back for Paradise and that
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: there will be a slew of celebrity guest hosts, including
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: David Spade, hosting Paradise. It's Uh, it's a big announcement,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of wondering. Right there hasn't been a
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: lot of clarity on what the future looks like and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: if there is one with Chris in the show, a
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: lot of rumors swirling around. We'll we'll wait and see,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and we'll continue to update everybody as we know more.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: But this is the most recent information we have is
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that right now it doesn't look like he's going to return.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on David Spade and then Wells
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and Sarah? And has Sarah been anybody else announced? Because
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I know one person that's hosting that has not been announced.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: What do you like of the announcement so far? I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: obviously Wells is a great friend of mine and this
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: is a big moment for him. Uh, and and Sarah.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: But I mean Sarah's you know, been in the spotlight
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: for a while and she has, you know, a name
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: behind herself that you know, she can pretty much do
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: what she wants at this point with within the entertainment world. Um.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm super pumped for Wells, very very excited for
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: him and Sarah. The David Spade thing really threw me off.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: It doesn't throw me off at all. Continue with your thought. Well,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I know, you know, I know some people that know
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: David's Bayde some producer of this podcast and really like
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: him as a person. I don't know him at all.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I've only been around him once at an event. Um.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: But it's like, I what I don't see is David's
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: baby being serious. I've we've never seen it. Um. And
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I think in Paradise there's so much chaos and there's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: so much drama and there's so much ridiculousness being thrown
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: around that like the moments of peace came from when
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Chris would step in. Is kind of that like adult
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: figure who would like calm the storms. Now, I don't
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: know if I see David do. I don't know how
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: that looks. So I'm gonna be intrigued to watch it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I will say I'm interested, like I'm I'm interested, which
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: makes me want to want to tune in. Yeah, there's
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: not clarity on how many weeks he'll be stepping in.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: It might be just one, it might be one, it
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: might be too. Um. I a little disagree with you.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I think because Bachelor in Paradise has so much levity
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that because he's funny, it's gonna be fine. I think,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: if anything, we're going to get like a lot of
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: little Raccoon scenes, and I think we're gonna get a
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: lot of lost with David. I got to have lunch
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: with him through Amy Amy producer Amy, Who if you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: are still on here, Amy, come in. I want to
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on David because you are friends with
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: him and he is he's such a cool dude. Well
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you could assume somethings, Amy, So you know David, Uh,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you know he's a fan of the show. Uh, you've
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: watched Paradise many times before. What do you how do
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you think it's going to be as a host, Like,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: how how do you feel like the vibe is gonna be?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: What is his skill sets that are going to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: offered to this, like, why should the audience be tuning in? Okay,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'll give you my two answers, which are sort of polarizing.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: One is I love him. He is such a funny guy,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but he is such a nice guy, and he's really
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: into the show and like the relationships of the show.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: And he's also a really really sweet, sweet guy who
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I go to for guy like boyfriend advice all the time.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So that makes me think potentially he's gonna be really
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: great because he knows a lot about relationships and will
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: have great advice. My concern, which isn't a concern. I
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: also find him to be hysterical, So my only thing
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: is like, am I gonna just be watching the show
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: watching him? Like literally I can see my eyes just
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: going on to him being like, make me laugh, make
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: me laugh, and I won't even pay attention to what's
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: happening in the scene, Like are you going to be sad?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't get a lot of airtime and he's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: not able to make a lot of jokes, I don't know.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like he will, but I feel like I'm good.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I he's a movie star for a reason, because we're
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: all sort of like he's sparkly. He's captivating, so I
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: may just forget to pay attention to like the contestants.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: At some point, I think, yeah, I think you guys,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be great. He's warm and is kind of
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: a secret heart throb amy stay on for this. He
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: has dated some sexy women in Hollywood, including Heather Locklear
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Carmen Electra. If he can reel in these girls because
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: he's a handsome dude. He's handsome, he's cool looking, right,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: but he's not a smoke show. It's his personality and
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: he can help these guys real in ladies with just
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: their personality, with maybe his advice. I fully I'm attracted
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: to him. He is a big I'm too old for
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: him because I'm like I always say, I'm like ten
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: years younger than him, and I'm way too old for him.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Like he is very dreamy. He will be great at this.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I missed, I missed Chris, I'm gonna say that,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: but and I noticed his absence. But I do think
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: this is a genius idea for Paradise. And I'm like,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I'm also Wells number one fan, so I think he's
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: genius too. Yeah, Okay, back to the headlines. Let's start
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: with the Bachelor stars Matt James and Rachel Kay planning
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to move in together. This is a headline according the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: page sit. Yeah, so they're thinking about where he wants
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: to restart his real estate career, and he's thinking Miami.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: They both want to stay on the East Coast because
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: their families are there. Plus apparently the Miami real estate Uh,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: you know, life is really blowing up and the weather
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: is of course a year round beautiful. So there we go. Well,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: let's see if they really do move into the same
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: apartment or house together. That will be something step I know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: not more than just a few weeks ago, we actually
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: announced that they were even seeing each other. Now we're
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: getting rumors that they might move in together. Well, here
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: is another relationship update. I wish we had like one
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: of those little like ding ding ding things are that
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: get people excited about This from the Bachelor Nation franchise.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Piper James and Brendan are dating. They're super into each other.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Is the quote that's according to us. You guys, can
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: you believe? First off, I think there's gonna be some
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: disappointed people who we're planning on seeing them in Paradise
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: or who would have loved to see this unfold in Paradise.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: But it seems that they may not be going to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Paradise to continue their relationship because the two of them
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: were spotted in the Boston area, which is where Brandon lives,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: over the Memorial Day weekend, which was also the weekend
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: that the first set of Bachelor in Paradise contestants were
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: shipped out to Mexico. So don't know that we're gonna
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: see either of them there. I think there's gonna be
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of girls there were that we're looking forward
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: to meeting with Brandon, and same with guys hoping to
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: see Piper. They say that they either fly out to
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: New York um or she'll fly to Boston. And I
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: guess whether they're pretty close because she's living in New
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: York and he's living in Boston, so like they don't
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: even have to fly to each other, they can just
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: drives only four hour drive. They've been keeping their relationship
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: under wraps since they're trying to make the long distance
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: they work. It's still new, but they're super into each
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: other and they're getting to know each other and they're
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: having fun going on dates. They also have a ton
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: of mutual friends in the bachelor crowd. So that makes
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: you know, dating really fun and easy. Um. Yeah, this
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: is very exciting for the two of them. Actually, just
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a few more big headlines to cover. Kelly Flannagain. We've
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: talked about it many times of the last few weeks
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: on how big of a hot commodity should be in Paradise,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: but we didn't know if she was going or not. Well,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: the headline reads this, Kelly Flanagan sets the record straight
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise rumors. Ben I cannot believe this.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I can't She's not going to Bachelor in Paradise. It's
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: absolutely wild wild. Bennett thought he was just going to
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: have the most romantic time down there with Kelly. She's
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: not even going. Somebody asked her on her Instagram Q
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and A on June two, um, how her life life
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: but her love life was going, and she said going
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: to Mexico in two weeks smiley face. But then I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: was asked about her going to Paradise and she goes
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: and no, I'm not I'm just going to Mexico. Absolutely wild.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. I thought for sure she was
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: a shoe in and Uh, but she's not. She's just
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: hanging out in Mexico. Well final headline. Uh. And and
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: we're sharing this one because it's brave. Uh. It's just
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: really incredible. And I know now you know, as I
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: mentioned every week, UM, because Jessica's in the skincare world
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and I've gotten to talk to Ashley now for four
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: years about her struggles but also her Um, your passion
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: for skincare. Um. This is this was big because I
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: had to message her personally just say, you know, thank
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: you for so many of the people out there that
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: would be watching. But um, Christina Schulman goes makeup free,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: document painful, red p D flare ups. She says, an
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: all time low this according to people. Uh. One, Before
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: you break this down and talk about it, Ashley, I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, really cool of Christina.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And anytime anybody that has a following, anytime they kind
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of breakthrough um the hey everything's perfect facade and share
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: something that maybe isn't perfect. Um, it's a moment for
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: us all to connect. So kudos to Christina for doing this.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: For sure, I loved this. There were so many Bachelor
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: lums who wrote under her picture, thank you for this,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: you know, really appreciate the rawness, the realness she has
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it period real dermatitis,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: and it's flares sometimes and it's fine sometimes. She even
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: says in the caption that her and her dermatologists figured
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: out something that really worked for her for a while, um,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: but then it ended up coming back a couple of
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: months later. So she has this slide show type of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Instagram um reel where she shows her skin on good
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: days and on bad days. It's kind of like a rash,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like a blotchy rosatia type, small red bumps, and she says,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: there were hopeful times and a time where I hit
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: an all time low. She felt like she wanted to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: be raw, emotional, unfiltered, and she felt like she woke
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: up the morning that she posted this and she she
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: felt really down and overwhelmed and sad and defeated. And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: for the past few days, she said, she stayed quiet,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: stayed off to social media and hopes that she could
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: get to a better mental state where she could share
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: her skin's journey in her progress and the progress that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't come just yet. She's um, so many people were
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: thankful for you know her being so open about this,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: because there's so many times when we look at Instagram
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my god, that that doesn't even
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: look like skin. It's so perfect, Like how do you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: look like that? Right? And we can really get down
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: about our appearance because of what we see through filters
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: and all that. And I know that while I've never
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: had this type of dermatitis, I've had times where, um,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I had an allergic reaction to something that I couldn't
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: figure out, and it took like months to figure out
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: what was causing the allergic reaction, and I would wake
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: up with the puffiest eyes and like such a swollen face,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and it was just experiment after experiment of you know,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: what could it could be? And then there was a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: time where I had cisti acne and I just didn't
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: want to leave the house because I couldn't without crying
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: because I felt so bad about myself. So I think
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that almost everybody goes through a period of their life
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: like that. And by Christina showing that she's not Instagram perfect,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Instagram filtered all the time, it's really powerful and it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: can help a lot of people's self esteems out there. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: super super cool of Christina and just yeah, there's a
• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:19
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:38
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• 1:03:43
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• 1:03:48
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• 1:03:51
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• 1:03:53
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:59
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• 1:04:03
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• 1:04:05
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