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Train to Busan Perfected the Zombie Movie - Xenomania 87 · Xenomania

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  Jon: This week on Xenomania, a seemingly innocent trip by a father and daughter
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  to bring the youngster to her mother for her birthday goes off the rails.
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  Their train is soon overrun by zombies who rip through the passengers.
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  Even worse, the threat is not confined to the zombies.
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  In true zombie movie fashion, the other passengers are just as
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  dangerous, with the only safe haven being the terminus of the train.
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  All aboard.
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  This is Train to Busan.
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  This is Xenomania
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  You know, 15% lobster
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  Kearns: John just got back from the great state of Maine, everybody
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  Ryan: How much percentage is butter?
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  Jon: I didn't do a lot of butter.
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  Kearns: Now,
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  Ryan: man.
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  Kearns: I was
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  Jon: Oh, man.
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  I, I had,
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  Ryan: it
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  Jon: I had this linguine marinara with lobster in it.
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  Oh, man.
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  Ryan: But it
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  Jon: I'd go back just for that.
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  Ryan: source
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  Jon: I'd just go back, I'd go back just for that
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  Kearns: Yeah, it sounds phenomenal.
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  Which restaurant?
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  Well, we'll talk about that later.
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  But all right, everybody, this week we're doing Train to Busan.
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  I was hyped for this movie to see it again
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  Jon: Yeah, it's been a while since I saw this one
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  Ryan: First watch
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  Kearns: First watch for Ryan, and I'm sure we'll find out
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  what he thought in his rating
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  Ryan: It, you know, it me wanna buy it because I watched it,
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  uh, for free on the Vizio thing.
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  They had like different sections, but it through like the
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  10-minute commercials was rough
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  Kearns: Oh yeah, thanks
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  Ryan: you get, oh, you get to a moment.
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  It felt like I was watching it on basic cable all over again.
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  You get to that moment, you're hyped, and then it's like,
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  gotta donate to the ASPCA."
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  And
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  Kearns: Y-
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  Ryan: "Oh, come
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  Kearns: 10 minutes
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  Jon: Did that, that Sarah, that Sarah McLachlan song
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  comes on in the middle of it
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  Kearns: of an angel
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  Ryan: It's… No, they didn't.
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  It's got the, um, the guy from Will & Grace.
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  Well,
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  Jon: Oh,
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  Ryan: he's doing
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: now?
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  Geez
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  Kearns: flamboyant fun guy is now being somber and serious
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  as the ASPCA spokesperson.
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  It's really, really tough transition for me
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  Ryan: But it's like 10 minutes of it, and then you go back to zombie goodness.
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  It just doesn't add up
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  Kearns: Yeah, it's tough.
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  I agree
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  Jon: I, I bought this on 4K just for this viewing.
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  Kearns: I mean, I appreciated that
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  Jon: No.
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  Kearns: well
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  Ryan: Oh, the steelbook's like 20 bucks right now.
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  Oh.
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  All
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  Kearns: Thar she blows, gentlemen
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  Ryan: feel left out right now.
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  I gotta get my copy
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  Kearns: cool.
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  I tried to watch the extras and stuff, and it's, it's neat, but
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  it's nothing groundbreaking.
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  You
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: about this one I forgot about DVDs is this one has about a solid
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  eight minutes of previews you can't skip
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  Jon: I love previews.
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  I love previews.
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  Kearns: skip them.
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  It doesn't let you skip
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  Jon: Mm-hmm
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  Kearns: At least maybe if you have the right remote control on a DVD
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  player, you can hit the menu button.
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  But I used the PS5, so it's just like
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  Ryan: skip it.
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  Kearns: I did everything.
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  Ryan: R
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  Kearns: I did it all.
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  Yeah.
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  It, it was like, "Nah, buddy, this is for you. You're gonna
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  watch this." It was pretty cool
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  Ryan: like I had that vibe today, uh, for one of the Arrow releases and it
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  came up with the Arrow logo and I'm like, "Oh man, this is gonna be a while."
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  But it was like cool and nostalgic.
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  But then when the warnings came up, I was able to skip it.
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  I was like, "Thank you.
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  I don't, I don't need to be warned about the
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  Jon: And y-
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  Ryan: anymore."
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  Jon: you found a disc you can skip the FBI warning?
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  That's usually the one you can't skip
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  Kearns: that's always the one that, that locks you out.
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  You're cuckolded into that one.
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  Ryan: I just, just keep clicking,
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  Jon: this function is not available at this time
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  Kearns: exactly.
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  That's the way.
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  So this is an, a horror movie that I didn't know how it was gonna go
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  the first time I watched it, and I really didn't know much about it
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  the first time I watched it either.
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  but it takes place almost entirely in an enclosed s- space on a train.
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  and that's always, like, kinda tough 'cause you don't
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  know if the movie's gonna…
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  Like, uh, Iron Lung,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: I, I did not like Iron Lung at all.
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  It's in, all in that one space.
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  I like what they tried to do with Iron Lung, and I liked, uh, a couple of
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  things about Iron Lung, but the actual movie itself was, like, a dud for me,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: because it was all, it took place in a locker room, basically.
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  It was like, "Cool. This is fun. We're looking at the same gray walls."
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  Ryan: it's all focused on one person the entire movie, or does it do
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  Kearns: Yes.
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  Ryan: other
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  Kearns: No.
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  Ryan: so that's
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  Kearns: He's in an iron lung submersible talking to presumably
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  like, on the surface or something.
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  But that's part of the twist, so we're not gonna get into that.
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  But that's, like, kind of why I was worried about this, and I,
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  I… This movie holds up so well considering the train issue.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: And
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  Jon: Well, because, yeah, the thing with Iron Lung it sounds like it's
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  not just the small environment, it's the small cast also.
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  Like, when it is something like Iron Lung, you really have to
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  get into that character, I think
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  Kearns: Yep
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  Ryan: It's also the process of time.
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  How long was the movie?
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  Like an hour and a half
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  Kearns: Iron long, I don't even remember.
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  It was a slog.
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  Could've been three hours, could've been 15 minutes.
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  I was just, like, grinding through it
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  Ryan: But that's the thing, like the ideal time for something like
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  that is like 30 minutes, right?
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  For like Alfred Hitchcock Presents back in the '60s for
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  Kearns: It would've been a perfect length.
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  30 minutes Alfred Hitchcock, perfect
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Well, that's how he did it with the, one of the episodes where they bury
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  someone alive, which they remade into a R- Ryan Reynolds movie years later.
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  Kearns: know
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  Ryan: that worked.
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  Yeah, they, it worked because you get him in the grave, but you also
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  see other scenes of people trying to figure out what's going on.
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  So it cuts it up a lot.
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  think that one was like 82 minutes, so you, you can't really go a long time with
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  those films 'cause they get, they get dull
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  Kearns: Yeah, they get a little dull.
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  'Tis true
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  You got…
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  Ryan: though
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  Jon: No, Train to Busan never slows down.
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  It never gets boring.
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  And I would recommend if you're watching it for the first time, do not get attached
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  Ryan: No.
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  Kearns: Yeah, there's a lot of characters in this that I liked
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  that aren't at the end of the movie.
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  Ryan: Which one stands out?
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  Kearns: Oh, man.
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  It's gotta be, uh, Sang-Hwa.
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  Muscles McKin- M- What is it?
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  Muscles McKenzie?
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  Jon: Yeah, he, yeah, he's really cool.
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  Kearns: Well, he's the only hero really in the movie besides the
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  anti-hero, hero, hero Seok-woo, the main
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  Jon: Mm-hmm
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  Kearns: And, uh, yeah, guys, these are Korean names, and
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  we're doing our best, all right?
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  So if you're gonna send the hate mail, send it to…
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  We'll put Ryan's address in the description.
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  You can
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: to Ryan.
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  He's gonna handle all that.
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  Ryan: Yep, I got you.
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  Jon: Yep
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  Kearns: probably send you, like, a nice le- letter back handwritten, spritz
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: of perfume on it.
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  Ryan: in Script
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  Kearns: such a nice guy.
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  yeah,
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  Jon: No, I don't…
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  Kearns: Sang-ho movie
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  Jon: Yeah
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  Ryan: know, I'm a lot with, um, because we've gotten into, like, I feel
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  like I've gotten more into a foreign movie kick since Pan's Labyrinth.
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  Uh, we talked about Cronos, uh, Last Train, or Train to
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  Busan, I wanna say Last Train.
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  I feel like a lot of the foreign horror films go that extra mile with the
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  thrill and, like, the suspense while carrying a story, and I feel like here
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  in America we're finally getting back to that movies like Obsession and stuff.
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  I- it's a big shout-out, what I'm saying, but I feel like seeing a
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  lot of those films, like, they take, they're able to take that extra step
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  Kearns: Well, the, these style movies are being scooped up by streaming networks.
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  I know, I remember when Netflix really started pulling in the
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  Korean films and shows, and you
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: But, Amazon Prime was the first one that had Trollhunter and Monsters.
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  That's how I consume those.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: isn't a foreign movie, but Trollhunter was.
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  and then Sweet Home was on Netflix.
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  That's Korean.
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  And they started exploding and these things, like, started to get bigger.
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  Squid Games, obviously, during the pandemic
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: a, a huge success.
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  So like, they need content, and they decided to, you know, scoop
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  it in from here because they're… The Koreans especially are
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  producing some high-quality stuff.
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  Like, know if you guys saw, The Host
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  Jon: Uh, sea, the sea creature one?
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  The
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  Jon: I love that movie
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  Kearns: big surprise.
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  There was a crummy book that had come out around that time called The Host by
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: I was wrong.
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  Jon: I'm very wrong.
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  Kearns: Yeah, Host, the movie's great.
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  Jon: Yeah
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  Kearns: but like, yeah, that just kinda goes to show, you know,
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  what these directors are up to.
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  And, I don't know what else he's produced.
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  I know he has a show on Netflix right now called Hellbound
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Okay.
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  which was the sequel, and I think he did an anime prequel
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  Jon: Yes.
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  Seoul, Seoul Station is an anime, anime prequel.
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  Kearns: I did not
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  Jon: Prequel or, um, I don't even know.
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  It's, it's labeled as a prequel, but it's sort of at the same time
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  as the very beginning of the movie, like when Seong is home with his
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  daughter, Soo-an, and, and that.
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  Like, it's happening then, and then it rolls into Train to
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  Busan with the, the homeless guy
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  Kearns: Ah, neat.
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  Okay.
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  Ryan: That's pretty
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  Jon: Yeah, so that's, that's where it ties in.
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  I, I think I like the story, but y- I think you guys know my… I'm not big on
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  the anime thing, so it sort of missed me.
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  The story itself is fantastic
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  Kearns: I'm the biggest weeb in the world, so it's kind of funny that John and I
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  are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
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  I feel like
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: I was gonna say, I'm like, I'm like Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop, the
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  Kearns: That's a good place to be.
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  Like, I'm like Ninja Scroll at 11 guy, where it was like, "Hmm, are
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  they allowed to show that just 'cause it's animated?" kinda stuff.
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  In the '90s when they were just trying things out, that was fun, and then I've
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: ever since.
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  But, I mean, so S- Yeon Sang-ho is definitely talented,
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  but I don't know if he…
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  If this is gonna be his, his Sixth Sense.
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  I don't know if this is gonna… It's g- tough to beat this movie
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  Jon: It's gonna be really hard.
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  I'm curious about Colony.
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  I've seen the trailers for it.
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  It looks like it's back to his Train to Busan form.
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  But I, I guess that remains to be seen.
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  it's another, zombie type of movie.
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  But like I, I, I mean, the, the couple of things I've seen I've enjoyed.
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  I, I liked Peninsula.
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  It's not Train to Busan.
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  Which, you know, it was always gonna struggle to live up to that.
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  Anything would
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  Kearns: When you perfect or when you come out with something that just nails it,
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  like Train to Busan does, and then you try to make something similar or with the same
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  equation, I suppose, like M. Night did,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Everything has the twist and stuff, and everything
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  is just awful in comparison to
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Peninsula just like a totally different style of movie?
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  Jon: It's m- it sinks more into the action and it's like, it's pure post-apocalyptic.
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  Like it's, I think it's years after the events of Train to Busan
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  Kearns: So it's like Cormac McCarthy, The Road kinda.
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  Did you
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  Jon: Kind of.
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  I did, yeah.
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  I ki- one of the few McCarthy books I read, but yeah, I r- I read The Road.
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  I watched the movie also.
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  It's okay.
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  Kearns: I gotta talk to you about McCarthy later.
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  We can have a chat
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  Jon: Um, I would say Peninsula ro- rolls in a whole bunch of ideas.
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  It's got some, some kinda like that Fast and the Furious goofiness
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  to it, like very similar ways.
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  it definitely sinks more into the action than the horror
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  Kearns: Okay.
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  I prefer the horror, um, considering what he did with
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: it scary, but I
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  Jon: No.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Yep
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  Kearns: like, it-- this is an action horror movie for sure, if
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  we were gonna say that, if we're gonna mash it with another genre.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: Yeah
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  Kearns: But it's not… Like, World War Z is the one I keep thinking of because
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  this movie and World War Z do something very similar with, like, the zombie piles
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  when they all start mashing and then breaking through things at times and
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: World War Z does it way more
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  With the, the like, sort of like ants using one another to climb up stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Then,
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  Kearns: have moments like that
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  Jon: mm-hmm, I, I particularly like the scenes in Train to Busan where
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  they, they break through glass just by the sheer force and volume of them.
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  Kearns: Yeah, that was cool.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: because of it.
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  That was pretty sweet.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  They, they-
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  Kearns: like them holding onto helicopters and falling, and then chasing
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: at the skate park.
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  That was pretty dumb, but funny
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  Ryan: So that did happen with the helicopter.
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  I was, I saw that and I was like, "Wait a minute. Did I just see
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  someone just fall from the sky?"
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  Kearns: Yeah, there were like zombies raining down on these kids.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: it was pretty funny.
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  Ryan: chicken, I was waiting for a chicken
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  Kearns: But they,
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  Ryan: like, "This ain't Zombiology."
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  Kearns: also do something where they, they have the shambling zombie effect
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  as well, and they, they, they do that a little bit where it's like unexplained,
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  where you just see them moving a little bit more slowly until they
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  trigger and then kind of run at them.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: the lights perfectly.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: which is kinda cool.
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  Jon: Yeah
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  Kearns: gave them the shambling zombie effect again a little bit,
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  where they were kinda moving around slow, and then our hero cast had to
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  navigate their way through them at one
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  The climbing on the luggage racks is pretty good.
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: I was at, I like that visual
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  Kearns: You got two minutes though, and you're putting yourself in a situation
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  where you are highly vulnerable.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: no shot.
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  shot
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  Ryan: I thought someone was gonna fall through because it was canvas.
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  I thought the big guy or, um, Seo, Seo Gu would've went through,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm
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  Ryan: the homeless guy.
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  Like, I was waiting for something like that to ha- happen.
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  And that's the thing we were saying, like, it… You're on the edge
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  of your seat for the whole thing, 'cause it's that claustrophobic.
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  You know?
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  Kearns: was the most New York way to say claustrophobic I've ever heard.
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  Jon: Claustrophobic.
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  Ryan: claustrophobic.
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  Jon: My claustrophobia is acting up tonight.
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  Kearns: smear my bagel
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  Ryan: phobia a schmear of
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  Kearns: And Staten Island's so small, you know?
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  It's claustrophobic
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  Ryan: I've been watching a lot of videos about egg creams and like how
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  they make the egg cream and all that.
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  The guy's got a heavy Brooklyn accent.
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  Kearns: he's adopting it
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  Ryan: claustrophobic, but
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  Kearns: would we classify these as fast zombies?
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  Jon: Yeah,
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: they're fast zombies.
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  I,
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  Ryan: Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: I,
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  Ryan: have that weakness though
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  Jon: mm-hmm
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  Ryan: them go back, which is a nice twist, but I, I feel
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  like I'm in the middle though.
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  Kearns: Stuck in the middle with you
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  Jon: I d- I'm pretty sure these were also Romero approved zombies.
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  Kearns: Really?
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  Jon: I believe he liked Train to Busan.
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  Kearns: Then, then we have nothing else to say on the matter.
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  The
• 16:13
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:13
  Kearns: spoken.
• 16:14
  Jon: Yeah
• 16:15
  Ryan: wanna see this real
• 16:16
  Kearns: Would we, would it be safe to say he invented the modern zombie?
• 16:19
  Jon: Romero?
• 16:20
  Absolutely.
• 16:21
  Kearns: good,
• 16:22
  Jon: Absolutely.
• 16:23
  Kearns: I wanted to
• 16:23
  Jon: Night of the Living Dead inv- invents the, the modern zombie and, you know, in
• 16:28
  the 60, almost 60 years since, there's been the evolutions, the World War Zs,
• 16:35
  the Train to Busans, 28 Days Laters.
• 16:38
  Kearns: Dawn of the Dead was the first fast
• 16:40
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:40
  Kearns: ever watched.
• 16:42
  Remake the remake.
• 16:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Kearns: so what about the fact that… So this, this occurs due to
• 16:49
  some sort of environmental issue.
• 16:51
  We're gonna talk about that a bit later on, but
• 16:53
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:53
  Kearns: for now, how do you guys feel about how that affects the animals too?
• 16:57
  'Cause that opening scene was pretty sick
• 17:01
  Ryan: It's a twist.
• 17:02
  And you know what I thought immediately was Resident Evil and the dogs.
• 17:06
  Kearns: Oh, yeah, the T-virus
• 17:08
  Ryan: right?
• 17:09
  everything.
• 17:10
  And then I'm like,
• 17:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:11
  Ryan: that deer gets hit and it comes back, I'm like, "Oh, going a different
• 17:15
  avenue." And that, I feel like if he furthered that with a sequel instead
• 17:20
  of like Peninsula or go- continues in the franchise, he should look into that
• 17:24
  whole zombified animal prowess, 'cause that would be unique on that part.
• 17:28
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:30
  Kearns: Agreed
• 17:30
  Ryan: just brings a whole other level.
• 17:32
  Like, imagine just like a t- I mean, they did it in Army of the Dead,
• 17:35
  but the tiger or like a lion or like group of wolves zombified, like
• 17:41
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:42
  Yeah, they've done in a few things.
• 17:44
  the most recent thing I saw it in was Cold Storage.
• 17:48
  They did it with a deer and a cat, I think.
• 17:52
  Kearns: Yeah
• 17:52
  Jon: the, the CGI in that wasn't, you know, fully convincing, but I, like
• 17:59
  when they, add in that, like, more broad scale environmental disaster
• 18:04
  Kearns: it is kinda cool.
• 18:05
  they don't tell us what happened to cause it, which probably happens in the prequel.
• 18:09
  I'm looking up the year it was released.
• 18:11
  You guys probably already know
• 18:13
  Jon: Uh, I wanna say it's 16.
• 18:15
  Kearns: Yeah, I was gonna say the CGI is pretty damn good for 2016
• 18:20
  Ryan: They mention what happens because, um, Seok-woo, he gets a
• 18:24
  call from his assistant 'cause I, I mean, he's a fund manager, but in
• 18:30
  cahoots with this government project
• 18:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:33
  Ryan: the environment and the gases and stuff.
• 18:34
  So I think whatever they did led to the
• 18:38
  Jon: Yeah, there, there's a,
• 18:40
  Ryan: or something
• 18:41
  Jon: there, there's a brief mess- uh, part about it being like a leak
• 18:46
  at a biotech firm that, Seok-woo was, working as- through somehow.
• 18:53
  Kearns: He
• 18:53
  Jon: I think he, I,
• 18:54
  Kearns: selling the
• 18:55
  Jon: yeah.
• 18:56
  I, I, yeah, I, I think to s- to some extent he's like stockbroker
• 19:00
  or hedge fund guy or something
• 19:02
  Kearns: They were like, "We need him to be a douche. Let's make him a stockbroker."
• 19:05
  Jon: But yeah, the most identical form of douche in the last 20 years
• 19:09
  Kearns: Yep.
• 19:11
  And without fail, come at us in the comment.
• 19:13
  Uh, come at me directly in the comments.
• 19:15
  I would love to slaughter you.
• 19:18
  Jon: I, I'm not, I'm not saying they all are, but it's the most
• 19:21
  identifiable way to… It's the easiest way to make somebody
• 19:26
  identifiable as a shady character,
• 19:29
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 19:30
  Jon: to ma- make him involved in stocks and trading and stuff
• 19:34
  Kearns: Yep.
• 19:35
  Ryan: And then on top of it, he's a bad dad.
• 19:37
  Kearns: He is a bad dad
• 19:38
  Ryan: know, I wanna ask,
• 19:40
  Jon: He's,
• 19:41
  Ryan: these… Oh, sorry
• 19:43
  Jon: he's a bad dad to an extent.
• 19:45
  I think he's, I think in his mind he's a good dad because he's providing for her.
• 19:53
  Ryan: Yes
• 19:55
  Jon: but I think he just views that from a dollars and cents perspective more than
• 20:01
  a I need to pay attention to my child and, you know, maybe not get her her,
• 20:06
  get her a game system that she already has from the last time, from the last
• 20:12
  time I had my assistant pick her gift
• 20:15
  Kearns: That was rough.
• 20:16
  Ryan: Wii
• 20:16
  Kearns: Yeah, that
• 20:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:18
  Kearns: because I was watching it and I was like, I mean, she's a
• 20:20
  rich kid and stuff, so she really wants for nothing in that regard.
• 20:24
  that is kind of a crappy feeling that he wouldn't know that he already got
• 20:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:29
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:31
  Ryan: I mean, it
• 20:32
  Jon: Yeah
• 20:32
  Ryan: when you saw it set up in the corner and I was like, "Oh, you get two copies
• 20:37
  Kearns: And she didn't even say anything.
• 20:39
  She just looked up at it like,
• 20:41
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:43
  Yeah.
• 20:44
  Kearns: So it's
• 20:44
  Jon: Yeah
• 20:46
  Kearns: Um, and that's a good time to point out the fact that she
• 20:48
  is a very good actress, Sue Ann.
• 20:50
  Um, she's now 10 years older than that, so she's probably 20
• 20:55
  Jon: She's, she's 20 now.
• 20:57
  Kearns: now.
• 20:57
  But she was, as a child actor, she was impressive
• 21:01
  Ryan: Yeah, she was really good
• 21:02
  Jon: when we're done, Google her
• 21:04
  Kearns: I don't want to.
• 21:06
  I don't want to.
• 21:07
  Because last time I did it, it, it turned out that the, the woman,
• 21:11
  the 22-year-old version of that actress was insanely attractive.
• 21:16
  Jon: Uh, well, yeah.
• 21:17
  Kearns: Yeah, it happened
• 21:18
  Jon: It'll happen again, yeah.
• 21:20
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 21:21
  So I was like, "Okay, neat." But it's
• 21:24
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 21:29
  Kearns: person
• 21:30
  Jon: No, no
• 21:32
  Kearns: definitely not.
• 21:34
  so yeah, I guess we're gonna keep ticking away at the bad dad part.
• 21:36
  so he's the… I don't know what we would call him actually.
• 21:39
  You two are smart.
• 21:39
  Is he an anti-hero?
• 21:42
  he, somebody who becomes heroic?
• 21:46
  Ryan: I feel like it's the hero's journey in a way.
• 21:50
  Like, he thinks he's doing right, and then he falls and, like, he's kinda like
• 21:55
  learning what's the best thing to do to help his daughter in this situation,
• 21:59
  the understanding of sacrifice and what he has to sacrifice for her and for
• 22:04
  himself in order to keep them alive.
• 22:07
  Kearns: And it really is about just her, him.
• 22:10
  All she wants is him,
• 22:12
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:12
  Kearns: when we get to the ending, that'll kinda hit home really
• 22:15
  hard, because that to me is
• 22:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:16
  Kearns: effective part of the movie,
• 22:19
  Jon: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Kearns: that switch at the end of the movie is like, "Oh, bro." And
• 22:24
  that's really why I think the director is not gonna top this, 'cause he
• 22:28
  Jon: It's gon- it's gonna be so hard to top this.
• 22:31
  Like, it, it, I can't imagine, like, the first time you do something of,
• 22:36
  on this scale, it being this good, and knowing that someday you're
• 22:41
  g- gonna keep trying to, to repeat it, and maybe never hit it again
• 22:47
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 22:49
  It's tough
• 22:50
  Ryan: why he did Peninsula, 'cause it's more action, as you're saying.
• 22:55
  So it's like what John Carpenter did.
• 22:57
  He did, like, horror.
• 22:58
  Like, his first breakout was horror, and then he did, like, action,
• 23:01
  sci-fi, and he kinda mixed it up a bit to give it a little taste.
• 23:07
  You know?
• 23:07
  Jon: Yeah.
• 23:08
  Yeah, I can see that.
• 23:09
  But like, it, it's just, just so, so well done
• 23:14
  Kearns: Big time.
• 23:15
  It's insane how well done it is.
• 23:17
  Um, I said, I don't think he's ever gonna top it.
• 23:23
  But
• 23:23
  Jon: it's, it's gonna be tough
• 23:26
  Kearns: Let's, transition to a little gamey game, guys
• 23:30
  Jon: Yeah, let's do that.
• 23:30
  We have a, back to our traditional Stash or Slash this week.
• 23:35
  Ryan: Oh, man.
• 23:37
  Jon: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna give you bonuses for guessing themes
• 23:40
  because if you both don't have the theme within two movies, I'm, I'll be ashamed
• 23:47
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 23:49
  Ashamed
• 23:50
  Jon: I mean,
• 23:51
  Kearns: not
• 23:51
  Jon: ashamed of you.
• 23:52
  It's not all horror.
• 23:54
  Kearns: Okay.
• 23:55
  Jon: I have, I've mixed in, it's actually less horror than other movies.
• 24:00
  So I'll start here.
• 24:02
  Movie number one is Howl
• 24:07
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 24:08
  Howl.
• 24:10
  Howl you doing?
• 24:11
  Oh, is it movies that take place on a train?
• 24:13
  Jon: Sure is
• 24:14
  Kearns: Okay
• 24:15
  Ryan: Oh, you better have Silver Streak on here.
• 24:18
  Kearns: I'm sure he will.
• 24:20
  I'm sure he will, buddy
• 24:23
  Ryan: But how?
• 24:24
  Um, is it werewolf
• 24:25
  Jon: It is werewolves.
• 24:27
  Kearns: that
• 24:27
  Jon: I, I think,
• 24:28
  Kearns: the train, not
• 24:29
  Jon: I've, I figured you guys had not seen this, and I think I may add
• 24:34
  it to the calendar for next year.
• 24:36
  I really like this.
• 24:38
  It's a, you know, it's a pretty traditional werewolf story, but I
• 24:42
  think they did some cool stuff with it
• 24:44
  Kearns: Cool.
• 24:45
  I'm down, man.
• 24:46
  Ryan: interested,
• 24:47
  Kearns: I like seeing things of the type that I have not yet seen And,
• 24:52
  Ryan: Is it
• 24:52
  Kearns: we should just do like a whole month on just trains
• 24:56
  Jon: we should.
• 24:57
  Kearns: Just embrace the tism.
• 24:59
  Jon: We should.
• 25:00
  Kearns: after
• 25:01
  Jon: you not into trains?
• 25:03
  Kearns: Me?
• 25:04
  Ryan: Oh, I love trains.
• 25:05
  Jon: you not into trains?
• 25:08
  Kearns: Are you not entertained?
• 25:09
  I get it.
• 25:10
  I was gonna say, I used to work on the railroad, so
• 25:14
  Jon: the livelong day
• 25:16
  Kearns: about trains.
• 25:16
  We used to have FRNs, which, were people who would sit in lawn chairs on the side
• 25:22
  of the tracks and like take videos and pictures of the trains as they went by.
• 25:26
  And then
• 25:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 25:30
  Kearns: talk your ear off.
• 25:32
  And be like, "Did you see the engine 47 times that diesel that's coming
• 25:36
  through?" I was like, "Yeah, bye.
• 25:37
  I'm trying to make some money."
• 25:39
  Jon: Trying to do my job.
• 25:40
  Thanks
• 25:41
  Kearns: my job.
• 25:41
  I like them less than the dudes who would be found, like, stealing metal.
• 25:49
  Trains are a crazy place, man.
• 25:50
  Trains…
• 25:51
  Jon: Yeah, man.
• 25:52
  Kearns: on trains.
• 25:52
  So Howell is on a train
• 25:55
  Jon: Yep.
• 25:56
  So Ryan's slashing.
• 25:57
  What are you doing, Kearns?
• 25:58
  I would imagine I know, but
• 26:01
  Kearns: Uh, well, well, you would imagine you'd know
• 26:04
  Ryan: Oh, he, he feels like you're gonna slash it
• 26:06
  Jon: I mean, you haven't seen it.
• 26:08
  It's hard, it's hard to stash something you haven't seen.
• 26:11
  Kearns: That's a great cover or poster, but
• 26:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 26:14
  Kearns: it I thought you were saying that because I was
• 26:16
  gonna do the opposite of Ryan
• 26:18
  Jon: No, no, no.
• 26:20
  All right, movie number two, Money Train
• 26:24
  Kearns: God, how do I slash this?
• 26:27
  Jon: We got, we got them back together.
• 26:29
  We got, we got the White Men Can't Jump cast back together,
• 26:32
  and this is what we did with it
• 26:34
  Kearns: Perez in it?
• 26:35
  Or is this--
• 26:36
  Ryan: uh, Jennifer
• 26:37
  Kearns: That's broke-ass Rosie Perez, uh, upgraded Rosie Perez,
• 26:40
  depending on how you look at it
• 26:43
  Ryan: Rosie Perez.
• 26:44
  Jon: Broken.
• 26:45
  I love Rosie Perez
• 26:47
  Kearns: an actress, just as a character actor, the… Well, she plays the same
• 26:50
  character, Rosie Perez, but still,
• 26:53
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:55
  I like, I love listening to her talk about boxing.
• 27:01
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 27:02
  As like an
• 27:02
  Jon: She's getting…
• 27:03
  Kearns: the
• 27:03
  Jon: Yeah, yeah, she loves boxing, and she's pretty knowledgeable
• 27:08
  Kearns: one.
• 27:08
  They cast Salma Hayek in the movie, uh, To the Bone or whatever, with Woody
• 27:13
  Harrelson and, uh, Antonio Banderas.
• 27:15
  They
• 27:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:16
  Kearns: in that too.
• 27:16
  What the hell?
• 27:17
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:18
  You can't put her in enough stuff for me
• 27:20
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Ryan: Yeah, I agree
• 27:23
  Kearns: I f- I don't know what else you got coming, 'cause now we're, now it's
• 27:26
  like Speed 2 was on a train, wasn't it?
• 27:30
  Jon: No, speed two is cruise control.
• 27:32
  It was a cruise ship
• 27:33
  Kearns: Control.
• 27:34
  Ryan: And then
• 27:35
  Kearns: is a Steven Seagal movie on a train.
• 27:37
  Ryan: Under Siege
• 27:38
  Kearns: Under Siege 2 is on a train, and I'm gonna probably have to slash that.
• 27:44
  All right, I'm gonna keep, I'm gonna keep Money Train.
• 27:46
  I'm doing it.
• 27:48
  They don't make movies like this anymore, dude
• 27:51
  Jon: No
• 27:51
  Ryan: strengths in automobiles.
• 27:53
  He might have silver streak if he's not doing
• 27:55
  Kearns: But that's not like on a train.
• 27:56
  There's a train in it.
• 27:58
  Y-
• 27:58
  Ryan: It's in the title.
• 27:59
  Kearns: yeah.
• 28:00
  Ryan: chance.
• 28:02
  Kearns: I mean, if planes, trains, and automobiles, he'd probably put that
• 28:04
  last too because he's a savage like that
• 28:07
  Jon: So you're saying there's a chance
• 28:09
  Kearns: All right
• 28:10
  Ryan: is a chance, but I'm gonna slash it.
• 28:12
  But my father-in-law, when he worked for the MTA, he was, um,
• 28:18
  when they filmed this movie, and he said Woody Harrelson was amazing.
• 28:22
  Uh, the other two, um, it was rough.
• 28:25
  It was
• 28:25
  Kearns: Wesley Snipes was supposed to have been a bit of a diva in his, in
• 28:28
  Jon: What?
• 28:29
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 28:30
  Jon: I just noticed, and I'm gonna point it out, what's happening
• 28:33
  with his eye in this picture?
• 28:35
  Kearns: yeah, it's,
• 28:37
  Jon: He's got, this one's okay.
• 28:38
  Where's this one going?
• 28:40
  Kearns: It's definitely got to do with the angle.
• 28:42
  messed him up on that
• 28:45
  Ryan: zombie money train
• 28:46
  Jon: Where are you looking?
• 28:47
  Kearns: p- they're-- his eyes are fine, but it's also made worse by the fact
• 28:50
  that his eye color and the black next to it are, like, identical, so it pulls it
• 28:54
  Jon: Uh-uh.
• 28:56
  Ryan: He might be looking at J.Lo, I don't
• 28:58
  Kearns: But they're also cutting off the white of his other eye so he looks
• 29:01
  like there's less of it and it's a whole
• 29:03
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Kearns: trick
• 29:06
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:07
  All right.
• 29:07
  Movie number three, gentlemen, is Snowpiercer
• 29:11
  Kearns: This movie sucked
• 29:13
  Ryan: It did, and the comic's better.
• 29:16
  Jon: I agree.
• 29:17
  This movie had so much hype, there was so much word of mouth, and then I
• 29:22
  watched it, I was bored out of my mind
• 29:24
  Kearns: awful.
• 29:24
  And then like, look at the cast.
• 29:26
  You're like, "What the hell, man?
• 29:27
  How do you botch
• 29:28
  Jon: Bong Joon Ho.
• 29:30
  Like there's so many good names involved in this, and it just bored me
• 29:34
  Kearns: It sucked.
• 29:35
  This movie's definitely a slash.
• 29:37
  I think it was, uh, post-"Captain America" Chris Evans too, which you were like
• 29:41
  kinda like, "What are you doing, man?
• 29:43
  You took
• 29:44
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:48
  Ryan: America and they're like we have this film sitting here Captain
• 29:51
  America's big let's release it right now and jump on those coattails and
• 29:55
  no so that's why it's a slash as well
• 29:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:58
  Ryan: the comic book does it so much better and the build-up
• 30:01
  to the end is definitely
• 30:03
  Kearns: It looks like the Mandalorian's helmet if you look at the damn train.
• 30:07
  Doesn't it look like the Mandalorian's coming at you?
• 30:09
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:11
  I mean, uh, you might as well keep the, the Star Wars going 'cause
• 30:15
  look at that hair on this lady
• 30:17
  Kearns: a good point
• 30:19
  Jon: She got the last cinnamon buns.
• 30:24
  Okay, so
• 30:26
  Ryan: able to watch that film again.
• 30:27
  It's like, "Look, Cinnamon Bunch John"
• 30:31
  Jon: Movie number four, Horror Express.
• 30:35
  Kearns: this
• 30:36
  Jon: Oh, man.
• 30:37
  I l- I love this movie just for the cast alone.
• 30:42
  Telly Savalas, Christopher Lee, and Peter Cushing?
• 30:45
  Kearns: Wow,
• 30:45
  Jon: It's
• 30:46
  Kearns: insane
• 30:47
  Ryan: the bad guy?
• 30:49
  Jon: No, not really.
• 30:51
  Ryan: all right
• 30:52
  Jon: I love Telly Savalas.
• 30:55
  I'll watch him in just about anything.
• 30:59
  So I guess Kerns you have to slash horror expert?
• 31:03
  Kearns: I've only got one stash so far
• 31:06
  Ryan: I have zero stashes and how many slashes I got?
• 31:11
  Three
• 31:11
  Jon: Uh, three so far, depending on what you're doing with Horror Express
• 31:15
  Ryan: Uh, this'll be a fourth one.
• 31:16
  I've never seen it.
• 31:18
  Jon: I gotta, I gotta put this on just for you guys to wa- have seen it.
• 31:22
  I think it's really good.
• 31:23
  This was, um, I wanna say middle school.
• 31:27
  I went to my friend's house.
• 31:29
  We went to the library to get movies 'cause he didn't live near a video store,
• 31:33
  and we got this, and we were so confused by it when we were, like, 11 or 12.
• 31:39
  And then watching it as, as an adult, it's fantastic.
• 31:43
  I love Horror Express
• 31:44
  Ryan: The mask looks familiar.
• 31:46
  Like I've seen the mask
• 31:47
  Jon: Yeah, i- i- it, a- any, any clip show it pops up in
• 31:54
  Kearns: Nightmare of terror traveling aboard the Horror Express
• 31:59
  Jon: Oh.
• 32:00
  All right.
• 32:02
  Next.
• 32:04
  There it is.
• 32:05
  Kearns: Stash
• 32:06
  Jon: and Automobiles.
• 32:07
  Kearns: I like me
• 32:11
  Ryan: Where's your
• 32:12
  Jon: t-
• 32:12
  Ryan: Between two pillows.
• 32:13
  Those aren't pillows
• 32:15
  Kearns: This, this movie, uh, is, is supposed to be a comedy or a dramedy,
• 32:21
  but, uh, man, it's makes me so sad, especially since John Candy passed so
• 32:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:27
  Kearns: Is
• 32:27
  Jon: And you, like I, un- until that John Candy documentary, I really hadn't
• 32:34
  thought about the dramatic elements of planes, trains, and automobiles that much.
• 32:41
  And then, then,
• 32:42
  Kearns: and then like,
• 32:43
  Jon: yeah
• 32:43
  Kearns: you've rewatched it
• 32:46
  Jon: Every year.
• 32:47
  Kearns: You
• 32:47
  Jon: Every year.
• 32:48
  Kearns: Wow,
• 32:49
  Jon: It's my Thanksgiving movie.
• 32:50
  Kearns: 'Cause yeah
• 32:50
  Jon: Yeah, it's my Thanksgiving movie
• 32:53
  Ryan: Agreed
• 32:53
  Kearns: 'Cause
• 32:53
  Jon: almost every year
• 32:55
  Kearns: I can't watch it and not, as an adult and not
• 32:57
  think of the dramatic moments
• 32:59
  Jon: Yeah, and well now that it's pointed out to me, it's like,
• 33:02
  it's very much very dramedy.
• 33:05
  But, you know, until you really pay attention to it on that regard,
• 33:09
  at least for me, it was a comedy
• 33:11
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Ryan: I
• 33:14
  Kearns: mean, a stash
• 33:16
  Jon: Yeah, two stashes.
• 33:18
  Kearns: Gotta stash this beast
• 33:20
  Ryan: a dramedy.
• 33:21
  Like, 'cause you can see those drama points, 'cause Steve Martin's such a jerk,
• 33:25
  and John Candy, that lightheartedness, I
• 33:28
  Kearns: Well, yeah, but he's such a pain.
• 33:29
  That's the whole point
• 33:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Kearns: Martin has every right to be annoyed with the fact that this guy
• 33:34
  Jon: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Kearns: out like not even why he is the way he is, but that he's just, he's that
• 33:38
  way, but he's also, there's no harm in it.
• 33:41
  There's no
• 33:42
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:42
  Kearns: him, and he also has nothing
• 33:45
  Jon: Yeah
• 33:46
  Ryan: The guy's just trying to sell shower curtains, rings
• 33:49
  and read the Canadian Mounted.
• 33:50
  That's all he wants to do
• 33:51
  Kearns: And he wants to hang out with his new buddy, Steve Martin, for as long as he
• 33:54
  Jon: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Yeah.
• 33:56
  'Cause it's a connection.
• 33:57
  Kearns: it's sad.
• 33:59
  Jon: It's a connection.
• 34:00
  Kearns: It's
• 34:00
  Ryan: that's so good
• 34:02
  Jon: Let's see if we can cheer it up with
• 34:03
  Kearns: should
• 34:04
  Jon: movie number the six
• 34:05
  Kearns: and have like John Candy murder Steve Martin, but
• 34:08
  keep him as a friend forever
• 34:13
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 34:14
  Uh, okay.
• 34:15
  You're
• 34:15
  Jon: Okay.
• 34:16
  Ryan: down
• 34:18
  Jon: All right.
• 34:18
  Next movie.
• 34:21
  Midnight Meat Train
• 34:23
  Ryan: Stash.
• 34:24
  Kearns: That's my third stache too.
• 34:26
  Gotta do it.
• 34:26
  I love this actor as well.
• 34:28
  Ryan: Vinnie
• 34:29
  Kearns: Yeah, baby.
• 34:30
  He was great in Gone in 60 Seconds.
• 34:32
  He was great in, uh, my God, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
• 34:37
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 34:38
  Ryan: Yep.
• 34:38
  Kearns: and Snatch.
• 34:40
  Ryan: Yep
• 34:40
  Kearns: He's just great
• 34:42
  Ryan: Oh, Snatch is, I'm, he shines more I think in, uh, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking
• 34:47
  Barrels 'cause he's like the main guy.
• 34:50
  I feel like with Snatch, like he's but he's like, there's so
• 34:56
  many other performers with Don Cheadle and Brad Pitt going around.
• 35:00
  Like it's, doesn't hit the surface as much and it's Vinnie Jones' great Euro trip
• 35:06
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:07
  Kearns: Yeah, he was good in EuroTrip.
• 35:10
  He was good in EuroTrip
• 35:14
  Ryan: It's
• 35:14
  Jon: All right.
• 35:14
  Ryan: story
• 35:15
  Kearns: so let's see what we screwed up on
• 35:16
  Jon: Z-
• 35:16
  Kearns: John, 'cause
• 35:17
  Jon: so,
• 35:18
  Kearns: right?
• 35:18
  Jon: no, Ryan has one stash left.
• 35:22
  Ryan: And one cut
• 35:22
  Jon: That means Kerns, you can say goodbye, too.
• 35:27
  Throw mama from the train
• 35:29
  Kearns: with this, but aw
• 35:32
  Ryan: But here's the
• 35:33
  Kearns: He's so tiny.
• 35:34
  I just watched Get
• 35:35
  Jon: So
• 35:36
  Kearns: last night, thanks to John, oh my God, is Danny
• 35:40
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:43
  and he makes Billy Crystal look giant, and he's not that big either
• 35:47
  Kearns: Billy Crystal's a little shorter than me.
• 35:50
  And I'm not very tall,
• 35:55
  But I know
• 35:55
  Jon: All right.
• 35:56
  Kearns: is
• 35:58
  Jon: All right, Ryan, here's your coin toss.
• 36:00
  Ryan: Yeah, but how evil are you?
• 36:01
  Would you
• 36:02
  Jon: Do you
• 36:02
  Ryan: Under Siege 2 as number one, or are you gonna put Silver Streak at number one?
• 36:06
  Because I love Throw Mama From a Train.
• 36:08
  Kearns: You gotta
• 36:09
  Jon: Uh-huh.
• 36:10
  Kearns: keep it then
• 36:10
  Jon: I mean, the…
• 36:12
  Ryan: But
• 36:13
  Jon: you…
• 36:13
  Ryan: it's
• 36:13
  Kearns: It's the bait.
• 36:14
  It's the bait, Ryan.
• 36:15
  Take it.
• 36:16
  Take it
• 36:16
  Jon: much,
• 36:17
  Ryan: Streak
• 36:18
  Jon: much have you lost on a coin toss?
• 36:21
  Ryan: I'm actually pretty good with it, but the thing is, is I know you.
• 36:24
  You might put under siege too,
• 36:26
  Kearns: Is that,
• 36:26
  Ryan: can't
• 36:27
  Kearns: is that a "No Country for Old Men" reference, by the way?
• 36:31
  Jon: It was.
• 36:32
  Kearns: Mr. Jon.
• 36:34
  That is very, that makes me very happy on our Cormac McCarthy
• 36:39
  Jon: That's, that's two Cormacs today.
• 36:42
  Kearns: I gotta get a Blood Meridian in there too
• 36:45
  Ryan: Well, you know what?
• 36:46
  I'm gonna stash it.
• 36:47
  I'll
• 36:48
  Jon: I think you have to because you're, you're just gambling that the last
• 36:52
  movie is, is gonna be w- y- you're assuming it's gonna be one of two
• 36:55
  Ryan: Oh, good.
• 36:57
  Jon: things, and it's not either of those two
• 36:59
  Kearns: Only a fool, only a fool takes the mystery box when he has
• 37:03
  a good thing in his hand already
• 37:06
  Jon: Oh, no, it's not gonna be Terra Train.
• 37:10
  Ryan: No?
• 37:11
  Jon: Any other guesses?
• 37:12
  I think this is a pretty obvious one
• 37:15
  Kearns: I got nothing
• 37:18
  Jon: All right.
• 37:18
  Movie number eight is Murder on the Orient Express
• 37:24
  Kearns: Damn, we, we are dumb.
• 37:26
  Oh, no.
• 37:29
  Well
• 37:30
  Ryan: you know what though?
• 37:31
  I'll accept Throw Mama Over the Train, even though is the original, right?
• 37:36
  We're, not the
• 37:37
  Jon: yeah.
• 37:38
  Ryan: this is a classic
• 37:40
  Kearns: Agatha
• 37:40
  Jon: Look at that cast.
• 37:42
  Kearns: I don't want
• 37:43
  Jon: Look at that cast
• 37:45
  Kearns: dead.
• 37:45
  They're all dead now.
• 37:48
  Oh, no
• 37:50
  Jon: yeah, I think they might all be dead now.
• 37:53
  Just doing a quick…
• 37:54
  Kearns: for sure.
• 37:56
  Jon: Conor, you… Jacqueline Bisset might be alive.
• 38:00
  Ryan: He's still alive.
• 38:01
  Jon: Who?
• 38:02
  Ryan: Yep, Michael York, Basil Expedition
• 38:05
  Kearns: Basil.
• 38:07
  Um, yeah, so let's, um, let's give us one back so we can keep that
• 38:13
  because that's the best movie on the list, and it's the last one.
• 38:17
  You
• 38:18
  Jon: it is.
• 38:19
  Kearns: But all
• 38:19
  Jon: You know the last movie's always gonna be the best one
• 38:22
  Kearns: It is.
• 38:24
  That's the game, and that's part one of Train to Busan.
• 38:27
  We're gonna get out of here, but you can find this part two on YouTube, and if
• 38:32
  you're listening on audio, guess what?
• 38:33
  We're cutting this out so you won't know about it
• 38:36
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Jon: Right,
• 38:39
  yeah
• 38:41
  Kearns: general vibes about South Korean horror.
• 38:44
  We kinda got into it a little bit already, but how does it stack up?
• 38:50
  Jon: Like it.
• 38:50
  I, generally find the South Korean stuff to be scarier at this point
• 38:54
  than a lot of the American stuff.
• 38:57
  Kearns: Ooh.
• 38:58
  Kind of like Ryan said earlier
• 39:00
  Ryan: It,
• 39:00
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 39:01
  Ryan: that one step further.
• 39:03
  Like, I feel like there's too much… Now, I don't wanna say there's too
• 39:06
  much regulations, 'cause you got indie filmmakers doing what they gotta do.
• 39:10
  Um, we've seen with Obsession, you got the choice with the
• 39:13
  R rating, the NC-17 rating.
• 39:15
  But over in Europe and Asia, th- and there it's like
• 39:21
  Kearns: If we can't…
• 39:22
  Ryan: you want
• 39:22
  Kearns: Where else is producing?
• 39:23
  China's been trying to throw stuff out there.
• 39:26
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:26
  Kearns: Uh, they're doing a lot of anime and stuff now.
• 39:29
  I don't think I can think of a single Chinese movie, mainstream
• 39:33
  Chinese movie that got big worldwide.
• 39:35
  Um, what about Japanese?
• 39:38
  Jon: Oh, Japan is, Japan kills it too.
• 39:40
  Japan and South Korean horror are just amazing.
• 39:45
  and then you get the, like, little sneaky ones in, down in there that
• 39:49
  you, you don't ever think about.
• 39:50
  Like Thailand is killing it with, with some horror.
• 39:54
  you get occasionally some good stuff from, like, the Philippines.
• 39:58
  there may be a lot more than a little good stuff from some of these places,
• 40:01
  it's just not as popular now yet
• 40:06
  Kearns: We did two movies at the very least, Basilisk and Sweet Home.
• 40:10
  Not Sweet Home.
• 40:11
  What's the name of the giant chicken movie again?
• 40:13
  Zombiology.
• 40:14
  Zombiology is definitively Japanese, correct?
• 40:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 40:18
  Kearns: Zombiology's… So it's a Japanese-produced movie, and
• 40:21
  then Basilisk is produced in Turkey or Romania or some kinda…
• 40:25
  Jon: Uh, Baskin.
• 40:27
  Kearns: Baskin.
• 40:28
  Jon: yeah.
• 40:28
  Kearns: Basilisk.
• 40:29
  That's an anime, by the way.
• 40:31
  That's why I got, I got my wires crossed.
• 40:33
  Ryan: about,
• 40:33
  Kearns: But yeah- By the way, everybody, we are still talking about Train to Busan.
• 40:37
  Train to Busan Part
• 40:39
  Jon: Yes.
• 40:40
  Kearns: But all right, so we've done two foreign films far.
• 40:43
  This would make our
• 40:44
  Jon: Well, I mean, pans
• 40:46
  Ryan: Yep.
• 40:47
  Kearns: yeah, that counts.
• 40:48
  I mean, Guillermo del Toro's house is like in LA,
• 40:52
  Jon: Yeah, but it, I don't think it was when he did Pans.
• 40:56
  Kearns: Okay, fair
• 40:57
  Jon: I think Pans was still v- very foreign
• 41:00
  Kearns: Okay, we'll count it
• 41:02
  Ryan: they consider it a
• 41:02
  Jon: I ge- I generally count anything that's, that I have to
• 41:05
  watch with subtitles on as foreign
• 41:09
  Kearns: Okay, so four.
• 41:11
  Four
• 41:12
  Jon: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Ryan: Or
• 41:13
  Kearns: Well,
• 41:14
  Jon: mean, and then, and then the, the English and,
• 41:17
  Kearns: or something
• 41:18
  Jon: the English and the Irish.
• 41:19
  We, we hit Ireland.
• 41:21
  Kearns: we can count that, can't we?
• 41:22
  Jon: The boys from County Hell.
• 41:24
  Holcomb.
• 41:25
  Holcomb and Oddity
• 41:28
  Kearns: Bank- That, those are bankrolled by US studios
• 41:30
  Jon: Vanity maybe not.
• 41:32
  Boy, Boys from County Hell
• 41:34
  Kearns: That one I'll count.
• 41:36
  That one's the true Irish one.
• 41:37
  Ryan: All right, so five.
• 41:39
  Five.
• 41:40
  Kearns: Yeah, because if it's like Universal Studios presents
• 41:44
  Ryan: I
• 41:44
  Kearns: Eastern Romanian horror
• 41:47
  Ryan: Oddity though I feel was like more independent than Hokum.
• 41:51
  Hokum was more
• 41:52
  Jon: Hoca- Hokum's definitely more Hollywood.
• 41:54
  I think, I think Oddity you could count
• 41:56
  Kearns: oddity, yeah.
• 41:58
  can do it, so we can give it a six.
• 42:00
  Give it a six.
• 42:00
  That's also, like, we were talking
• 42:02
  Jon: Two more.
• 42:03
  Kearns: we
• 42:04
  Jon: Hold on.
• 42:04
  Kearns: w- Oh, wait, we got two
• 42:05
  Jon: The Dead Snows.
• 42:06
  Kearns: Oh, yeah.
• 42:08
  Ryan: So we did
• 42:09
  Kearns: We did those
• 42:10
  Jon: We've done at least…
• 42:11
  Kearns: babies
• 42:12
  Jon: we're, we're, we're running about a, a 10th of our movies being foreign.
• 42:16
  There might be a few more
• 42:18
  Kearns: Yeah, there's a couple out there
• 42:19
  Ryan: Kronos on there.
• 42:20
  Let's throw Cure on there
• 42:22
  Kearns: Yeah, just to stack up the numbers.
• 42:25
  But all right,
• 42:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 42:26
  Kearns: about this is that it's a nice blend of action and horror.
• 42:29
  Kinda like The
• 42:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 42:31
  Kearns: There was the one where the, the, like, demons from hell came and were, were
• 42:35
  rapturing, like anti-rapturing people.
• 42:37
  That was South Korean as well.
• 42:38
  I forgot to bring that up.
• 42:39
  That's a TV show.
• 42:41
  Maybe that is- maybe that's Hellbound
• 42:44
  Jon: Might be.
• 42:45
  Kearns: Yeah, 'cause that
• 42:46
  Jon: Might be.
• 42:46
  Kearns: 'cause that's very action forward too, but it's also scary.
• 42:50
  They just
• 42:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 42:50
  Kearns: like you're in traffic, and then they just zap in and start tossing cars
• 42:54
  around, and they rip one dude out of the car, and then they bring him to hell.
• 42:57
  And people are, like, living in this world where that just happens sometimes
• 43:02
  Ryan: It's all right
• 43:03
  Kearns: They're steroided up like dudes like from the movie Ghost,
• 43:07
  when they used to take the bad guys away at the end of Ghost.
• 43:11
  Do you remember?
• 43:12
  Yeah.
• 43:13
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:17
  Kearns: on that one.
• 43:17
  He was like, "Ooh." But yeah, the
• 43:22
  Jon: Yeah
• 43:22
  Kearns: thing is fun, but there's a, there's a, a few scenes where they get out
• 43:26
  of the train, where they get to different stops and they have to get out and
• 43:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:30
  Kearns: right?
• 43:31
  And,
• 43:32
  Ryan: Well,
• 43:32
  Kearns: of the funny things you guys brought up was the audacity of
• 43:35
  asking if a pregnant woman can run.
• 43:38
  a pregnant woman can run
• 43:41
  Ryan: It's, you know, I mean, it was her husband because it's,
• 43:44
  um, oh God, uh, not Young Guk.
• 43:47
  What's his name?
• 43:48
  Uh, Sing, Sing Wa?
• 43:51
  Yep.
• 43:52
  Sing Wa,
• 43:52
  Jon: Yeah
• 43:53
  Ryan: says it to his wife, uh, Seong, Keong, um, that like she's
• 43:59
  got to run and I'm like watching it.
• 44:01
  I'm like the audacity to tell her to run.
• 44:03
  I mean, I get it.
• 44:05
  Zombies are chasing you, but
• 44:07
  Kearns: Well, he's also holding them off.
• 44:08
  I would've told her
• 44:09
  Jon: Yeah.
• 44:10
  Yeah
• 44:12
  Ryan: Fair.
• 44:13
  Kearns: Like I'm gonna sac- potentially sacrifice myself.
• 44:16
  Get, get to steppin'.
• 44:17
  We gotta make moves
• 44:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:21
  Yeah, yeah, he, he's the first guy that really steps up in this
• 44:25
  movie and, and to take it on
• 44:30
  Ryan: Wraps his arms up with the tape, like he's, he's in there.
• 44:34
  He's like a gladiator
• 44:36
  Kearns: He's, yeah, he's awesome.
• 44:37
  And is, did, does this predate World War Z or is it post World War Z?
• 44:43
  Ryan: I think
• 44:44
  Jon: It's pretty close to the same da- it's definitely after the book.
• 44:49
  Kearns: Definitely after the book.
• 44:50
  'Cause the wrapping of the forearm
• 44:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:52
  Kearns: in both movies as well, and I was
• 44:54
  Jon: Yeah
• 44:55
  Kearns: was borrowed
• 44:56
  Ryan: three years apart.
• 44:57
  Uh, World War Z came out 2013
• 45:00
  Kearns: Actually, both of those ripped it off from 28 Days Later anyway.
• 45:03
  I
• 45:04
  Jon: Yeah
• 45:04
  Kearns: that happens in the 28 Days Later movie as well, he pulls that move.
• 45:09
  Yep.
• 45:10
  So nevermind.
• 45:11
  They both are thieves.
• 45:13
  I'm glad you guys brought up, uh, what's his name, Sang-hwa, because
• 45:18
  he's, he's the only, like, hero through and through this movie.
• 45:22
  He's a hero from the first time you see him all
• 45:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:26
  Kearns: whereas Seok-woo is more of a, a growth, a character growth
• 45:31
  kind of experience where he becomes
• 45:33
  Jon: Yep.
• 45:33
  Kearns: Soo-an actually wanted and deserved
• 45:37
  Jon: Yeah
• 45:38
  Ryan: villain though, Yon-Sok, who's,
• 45:42
  Jon: Sucks.
• 45:43
  Kearns: He does suck.
• 45:44
  He
• 45:44
  Jon: He
• 45:45
  Kearns: manipulating.
• 45:46
  He does a lot of… So he, at one point in time, tricks the people
• 45:49
  into kicking out the survivors
• 45:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:52
  Kearns: waded their way through a ton of zombies throughout the train to
• 45:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:57
  Kearns: to go.
• 45:58
  It was like, "Ugh." And
• 46:01
  Jon: I mean, that's a gut punch, but I do ki- that's one of the only times I kind
• 46:06
  of understand where he's coming from.
• 46:08
  Kearns: Yeah, 'cause you don't know if they're
• 46:10
  Jon: You don't know.
• 46:10
  Yeah.
• 46:11
  Ryan: it's true.
• 46:12
  But
• 46:13
  Kearns: not
• 46:13
  Jon: You…
• 46:13
  Kearns: did it.
• 46:14
  He did it
• 46:14
  Jon: No.
• 46:15
  No.
• 46:17
  Kearns: him out
• 46:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 46:19
  Ryan: He punched him and that's like where that whole incident happened.
• 46:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Ryan: punches him in the face.
• 46:24
  He's like, "They're infected." But he's just a jerk the entire film
• 46:29
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 46:29
  Jon: Oh, absolutely.
• 46:31
  Yeah
• 46:31
  Kearns: two characters we haven't brought up yet, but it's Young-guk,
• 46:34
  who's the baseball player, and Jin-hee, who's the girl who had a crush on
• 46:39
  him, and they both happen to live
• 46:40
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 46:40
  Kearns: team gets wiped out, yada, yada.
• 46:43
  they go through some action sequences together.
• 46:45
  They're kind of just along for the ride.
• 46:46
  They're not really developed much or anything.
• 46:49
  Jon: No
• 46:49
  Kearns: purpose is for Yong-suk to be a jerk to her,
• 46:54
  Jon: Yeah.
• 46:54
  Kearns: wrecks her
• 46:56
  Jon: Yeah, he's consistently awful to her
• 46:59
  Kearns: The villain just gets her at the end.
• 47:01
  Basically, like trips her so he can get away, but it's worse than
• 47:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:05
  Yeah.
• 47:06
  Yeah.
• 47:07
  Kearns: Pretty brew
• 47:08
  Jon: he's, he's a bad, bad guy, and he, like, he's the kinda guy that you
• 47:15
  use in these movies to show that people are often worse than the zombies.
• 47:21
  Kearns: Yep.
• 47:22
  They don't
• 47:22
  Jon: And s-
• 47:23
  Kearns: They don't make it the theme,
• 47:25
  Jon: no.
• 47:26
  Kearns: which I like too
• 47:27
  Jon: No.
• 47:28
  But there, there's also, there's a lot of social commentary built in around him,
• 47:35
  and, you know, some of it is… W- one of the reasons we don't do more foreign
• 47:41
  so far is it's harder to talk about some of the commentary that comes up
• 47:45
  in there, because I'm not South Korean.
• 47:47
  I don't know what their society is really like.
• 47:50
  But they, I mean, they, he… The thing with him is a universal, you know,
• 47:57
  corporate greed, corporate villain guy keeping everybody below him down, and
• 48:04
  in this case, putting them all at risk
• 48:06
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 48:08
  That sounds about right.
• 48:10
  It sounds like kind of we can identify, Japanese can identify.
• 48:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:18
  Kearns: um, I don't know, I just… So much about this movie to talk about
• 48:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:23
  They, there's definitely a lot of, lot of other social
• 48:26
  commentaries going on in here.
• 48:27
  A lot of it is South Korean specific.
• 48:30
  You know, the, the two older women on the train, there, there's a lot of
• 48:36
  things built around that about, you know, the loneliness of being elderly
• 48:40
  in South Korea, and, you know, it's, their, their sort of social security
• 48:46
  system is not fully functional.
• 48:49
  You know, a lot of, a lot of old people live in poverty and, you know, sort of
• 48:53
  abandoned by loved ones and, you know, alone, and they bond with one another,
• 48:59
  and that's kind of the case with those two
• 49:03
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 49:03
  Kearns: Sucks
• 49:04
  Ryan: too
• 49:05
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:06
  Kearns: That absolutely sucks.
• 49:09
  Well, thanks for that, Debbie Downer.
• 49:11
  Geez
• 49:11
  Ryan: oh yeah, I, I got an interesting question.
• 49:14
  Kearns: Okay
• 49:15
  Ryan: did these zombies become a- unalive?
• 49:19
  Because they've gotten cracked in the head multiple times with bats throughout
• 49:22
  the movie, they've been punched, right?
• 49:24
  Like, there's no ending, ending them.
• 49:26
  They're, like,
• 49:27
  Kearns: That's a good question because we didn't really see any
• 49:30
  of them get put down for good.
• 49:33
  Jon: No.
• 49:34
  Kearns: They don't rely on
• 49:34
  Jon: No
• 49:35
  Kearns: which I think if they showed more use of firearms, we might
• 49:38
  get a definitive answer to this
• 49:40
  Ryan: Well,
• 49:40
  Jon: Well,
• 49:41
  Ryan: definitely
• 49:42
  Jon: yeah, and I, I would guess based on the end, they've learned
• 49:48
  that, that firearms are effective
• 49:51
  Kearns: Yep.
• 49:51
  I was gonna say because of that one scene.
• 49:54
  God, what a
• 49:55
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:55
  Kearns: ending
• 49:58
  What a great ending
• 49:59
  Ryan: good
• 50:00
  Jon: I mean, it really, you know, you get, you get a couple
• 50:04
  of small emotional scenes, you know, the old lady's kinda sad.
• 50:10
  But up un- up until… I mean, it's a, it's a little sad, you know,
• 50:15
  the one seeing the other turned,
• 50:18
  Kearns: Yeah
• 50:19
  Jon: on the other.
• 50:19
  Like, I mean, that's kind of emotional.
• 50:22
  But it's really
• 50:25
  The whole vibe changes once they're off the train
• 50:28
  Kearns: Oh, yeah.
• 50:29
  Ryan: Yes
• 50:32
  Kearns: I agree completely.
• 50:33
  Can you explain that a little bit more for the listeners, what you mean by that?
• 50:37
  Jon: The, the train is like the action.
• 50:39
  It's the zombie survival, and you get a little bit of that in the moments
• 50:43
  when they're first off the train where it becomes survival, but then
• 50:46
  it becomes, you know, really dramatic at that point where it's, you know,
• 50:54
  now we're not running, we're dying.
• 50:58
  We're losing, we're losing people in the cast now that you
• 51:02
  didn't think you were gonna lose
• 51:05
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 51:06
  And there's, it's a
• 51:08
  Jon: It, it's, it's probably a good time to, to… Yeah,
• 51:13
  we're gonna spoil this now.
• 51:15
  You're gonna, we're gonna-
• 51:16
  Kearns: job of not spoiling it yet too.
• 51:18
  Yeah, this is the point in the
• 51:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:20
  Kearns: we will spoil the ending of this movie
• 51:23
  Jon: So if you haven't seen this 10-year-old movie yet, uh,
• 51:26
  pause, watch it, come back in a couple hours and finish this up
• 51:32
  Ryan: It's free.
• 51:33
  Just get through the 10-minute SPCA commercials, you'll be fine.
• 51:37
  Jon: just, just go buy it.
• 51:38
  Just like,
• 51:39
  Kearns: Yeah, you can do
• 51:40
  Jon: I, I don't, I don't think the Blu-ray is more than $15 now.
• 51:44
  Go buy it
• 51:45
  Ryan: 12 bucks on Amazon and the steelbook I think right now is on sale for 20
• 51:50
  Jon: Yeah, just get it.
• 51:51
  Just go get it.
• 51:52
  It's, it's worth it.
• 51:55
  But anyway, back to the end, and the… That last 20 minutes,
• 52:04
  I'm te- they get off the train.
• 52:06
  They've reached, you know, there's a derailed train.
• 52:09
  They can't go down that line further.
• 52:12
  The, operator of the train hops off to try to find a functional train
• 52:18
  that he can continue on, and he does.
• 52:21
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:22
  Kearns: There's some other fun stuff that happens, causes a
• 52:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 52:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 52:28
  Ryan: the flaming
• 52:29
  Kearns: yeah, we get, we get,
• 52:31
  Jon: Oui
• 52:31
  Kearns: um, his name?
• 52:34
  Jan Sucks to, uh… He, he kills a few people trying to save himself
• 52:38
  and all that, and then we, we
• 52:40
  Jon: Yeah
• 52:40
  Kearns: our cast down to three survivors,
• 52:44
  Jon: Three survivors and, Yon-suk whose fate,
• 52:47
  Kearns: Yep.
• 52:48
  Sealed
• 52:49
  Jon: un- unclear for a, a bit there.
• 52:52
  You know, you get… Our, our operator gets a train in motion, Yon-suk gets
• 52:59
  on that, and then eventually, uh, Seong, Su-an, and, um, Seok get to
• 53:06
  that running train, and they're able to get on and fight off zombies.
• 53:12
  they go to open the driver's car and there's just zombie businessmen
• 53:20
  Kearns: Yep.
• 53:20
  And he's waiting there sucking, and there's a
• 53:23
  Jon: Yep.
• 53:23
  Ryan: yet.
• 53:24
  Kearns: Old-- Yep.
• 53:25
  Ryan: turn yet
• 53:25
  Kearns: He turns
• 53:26
  Jon: Yeah, he's…
• 53:27
  Kearns: like af- yeah, they do a good job with that.
• 53:29
  He turns
• 53:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 53:31
  Kearns: which is
• 53:32
  Jon: Yeah.
• 53:33
  Ryan: Which
• 53:34
  Jon: Yeah
• 53:34
  Ryan: rewind real quick before that.
• 53:37
  What did you guys think of the, what, the train car when they're
• 53:41
  crushing down, you see the zombies going through the glass and stuff?
• 53:45
  Like, weren't you on the edge of the seat
• 53:46
  Kearns: Loved it.
• 53:47
  Ryan: watched it?
• 53:48
  Jon: I l- I, I love the, really love the scenes of the zombies
• 53:51
  and the glass in this movie.
• 53:53
  Kearns: Yep.
• 53:53
  Jon: In the, first train station when it's the zombie soldiers crashing through glass
• 53:58
  Kearns: Mm-hmm
• 53:59
  Ryan: Uh, yep
• 54:00
  Jon: And then, you know, crashing through the glass of a train car.
• 54:04
  Like, that's, that's really good.
• 54:07
  I like that
• 54:08
  Kearns: And it's unique the idea of zombies suspended above you w-
• 54:13
  and a pane of glass being between you and them is just great tension
• 54:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 54:19
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 54:20
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Ryan: It's just that close quarters, that claustrophobia, you know?
• 54:25
  Jon: Yeah
• 54:25
  Kearns: can we just discuss at the end when, when Seok-woo decides
• 54:29
  to shove his hand into mouth?
• 54:33
  That's completely unnecessary.
• 54:34
  Am I the only one
• 54:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 54:36
  No, you're not, and there…
• 54:38
  Ryan: No.
• 54:39
  Jon: When we get to, when we get to reviews, you'll hear,
• 54:41
  you'll hear more of that.
• 54:43
  Um
• 54:44
  Kearns: Good because what the hell, bro?
• 54:47
  Ryan: I, what, what else was he gonna do?
• 54:48
  I mean, if he, he was trying to protect his daughter
• 54:51
  Kearns: I can think of like seven or eight things that he could have done
• 54:53
  besides shoving his hand in the mouth
• 54:55
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:56
  I mean, I mean they, there, there are a few moments even before that
• 55:00
  where it looked like he could have had some leverage to, to just sort of let
• 55:05
  gravity take Hyun Suk off the train.
• 55:10
  Kearns: But
• 55:10
  Jon: he, you know
• 55:12
  Kearns: I'm glad that I brought it up then.
• 55:13
  Well, it'll come up in the reviews.
• 55:14
  We'll hear what the other people have to say.
• 55:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:16
  Kearns: only, the only thing that irks me about this movie.
• 55:18
  I was like, if you're gonna do that, make it a non-negotiable.
• 55:22
  Make it something that had to happen to him, not a choice
• 55:25
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:27
  Kearns: that doesn't look like he had to have made that choice in the first place.
• 55:30
  But
• 55:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:32
  Kearns: Speaking
• 55:33
  Ryan: I was gonna say when he keeps focusing on the train, the chain
• 55:36
  on the train, I kept thinking that he would've went over and then he
• 55:40
  would've been caught on the chain and maybe bit his ankle in that direction.
• 55:45
  Because, I
• 55:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:50
  Ryan: that part.
• 55:52
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 55:53
  Ryan: but
• 55:53
  Jon: Yeah
• 55:54
  Ryan: talking to her, like you lose that scene then,
• 55:57
  Kearns: true
• 55:58
  Ryan: an important part
• 55:59
  Jon: Well, I mean, you don't have to lose it.
• 56:02
  You can get there in other ways.
• 56:04
  It's just the blatant hand in his mouth is
• 56:09
  Kearns: they do that scene, Ryan, is what we're talking about.
• 56:11
  And
• 56:12
  Ryan: it.
• 56:13
  Jon: I mean, I mean the,
• 56:14
  Kearns: it, but the guy
• 56:15
  Jon: the
• 56:15
  Kearns: write a bad review is gonna say exactly what I'm thinking, I'm sure
• 56:18
  Jon: the outcome works.
• 56:20
  The, like him, Seok-woo getting bit works.
• 56:24
  you had already established Suwon had a, recital at school and she was
• 56:30
  supposed to sing and she wouldn't sing, and it's because he wasn't there
• 56:34
  so she didn't wanna sing her song for other people and not for him.
• 56:39
  Like he… And that, and that's the growth.
• 56:42
  He, but it's also, you know, it's also kind of in doing that, it sort
• 56:48
  of minimizes his growth too because now he's leaving his daughter anyway
• 56:57
  You know, heroic or not, he's now forced himself to get bit, and, you know, we
• 57:03
  know that's the end, and we're left with just, uh, pregnant Seong and Suwon
• 57:09
  Ryan: Yep.
• 57:10
  And that's, you know, after that scene, mean, that's a nail-biter
• 57:15
  too at the end with the soldiers.
• 57:17
  And I really thought we were gonna get a unhappy ending, and
• 57:21
  I would've been fine with it.
• 57:22
  Jon: Oh.
• 57:23
  Oh, absolutely.
• 57:24
  Kearns: I
• 57:24
  Jon: But
• 57:25
  Kearns: with it
• 57:26
  Jon: I, it didn't, it didn't need the unhappy ending, but my goodness,
• 57:30
  if you didn't believe in the, in those last few moments that you
• 57:33
  were about to get the unhappy ending
• 57:36
  Kearns: the choice of even putting that in there worthwhile to me as well,
• 57:39
  because like, if they had, they had just had them walk into safety, it wouldn't
• 57:44
  have had nearly as much impact as being
• 57:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 57:46
  Mm-hmm
• 57:48
  Kearns: And then they have her singing her little song, which like
• 57:50
  he said, harkens back to the whole relationship with her dad, which is
• 57:54
  the whole thing the movie's about.
• 57:56
  I think it's a movie about being a decent father and not wasting
• 57:59
  your time at work, but actually
• 58:01
  Jon: Yep.
• 58:02
  Kearns: which is why I declare today that I am quitting my job.
• 58:06
  I gotta feed them and clothe them and house them.
• 58:08
  Never mind, but maybe
• 58:10
  Jon: Yeah
• 58:12
  Kearns: Yeah, I doubt it
• 58:13
  Jon: Yeah, probably not.
• 58:15
  Well, maybe
• 58:16
  Kearns: we just gotta start robbing bitches.
• 58:19
  r- not like ladies, I mean like bitches.
• 58:22
  Like the, the metaphorical ones.
• 58:25
  Like the people like, like Seok Woo.
• 58:29
  They be robbing us, let's be robbing them
• 58:32
  Ryan: I got my pantyhose ready from Racing Arizona.
• 58:34
  Kearns: I bet you
• 58:35
  Jon: That was… So is that why you have pantyhose, Ryan?
• 58:39
  Is that really why you have pantyhose?
• 58:42
  Ryan: Yes, it's one of my favorite movies.
• 58:44
  Coen Brothers, 1992?
• 58:47
  '92?
• 58:48
  Jon: 90?
• 58:49
  No, it's 80s for sure.
• 58:52
  Ryan: '89.
• 58:53
  Kearns: Ryan.
• 58:54
  Ryan: I, I know I'm slipping a little bit
• 58:56
  Kearns: No, I'm more concerned about the pantyhose
• 58:59
  Jon: Yeah
• 59:00
  Ryan: just to cover, cover the face
• 59:02
  Kearns: Oh.
• 59:03
  Jon: I mean, I mean, this all said, we've j- we've just put our cr- our
• 59:07
  criminal conspiracy on record, so we should probably not commit crimes
• 59:13
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 59:14
  Yeah, this isn't about actually committing crimes.
• 59:16
  I'll see
• 59:17
  Jon: No crimes.
• 59:20
  Kearns: But yeah, let's get into, uh, some reviews.
• 59:24
  Jon: All right.
• 59:24
  Five stars.
• 59:26
  One of the best zombie movies out there.
• 59:29
  The storyline was great.
• 59:31
  Character development was there.
• 59:33
  Action-packed and suspenseful scenes.
• 59:36
  You truly feel yourself hating the main antagonist, which is
• 59:41
  surprisingly not the zombies.
• 59:44
  Overall, great story
• 59:46
  Ryan: It's a good
• 59:47
  Kearns: Okay, I'll take it
• 59:49
  Jon: Yep.
• 59:51
  All right, and now we get to the one stars.
• 59:53
  This one's a little longer than I usually include, but it touches on
• 59:58
  some of the stuff that I, I think people would find issue with, and
• 1:00:02
  some of it they just don't understand.
• 1:00:06
  Uh, one star.
• 1:00:08
  "This film is an absolute joke.
• 1:00:11
  It makes no sense whatsoever.
• 1:00:14
  First of all, why did they cast a woman who is clearly in
• 1:00:18
  her 30s to play a grandmother?
• 1:00:20
  And why on earth would this grandmother open a door to a bunch of zombies?" I
• 1:00:26
  think we explained that. "Then there's the guy at the end who decides to put
• 1:00:31
  his hand in the mouth of a zombie.
• 1:00:34
  Real cinematic brilliance there.
• 1:00:37
  Because as everyone knows, the best way to fight a biting zombie is to
• 1:00:42
  literally offering up your own body parts.
• 1:00:46
  Genius.
• 1:00:47
  Can someone also explain why the weird limping guy at the start of the film goes
• 1:00:53
  on about how everyone is dead, only for us to never find out who he is or how
• 1:00:59
  he knew everything before anyone else?" Watch Soul Station, you'll understand.
• 1:01:05
  Um, "It felt like they put so much effort into building his character, but he
• 1:01:10
  ended up being as irrelevant as any NPC.
• 1:01:14
  That was seriously disappointing.
• 1:01:17
  And why is there just one guy clever enough to fight the zombies while half
• 1:01:22
  the world, including the military, is completely useless?" I think you've
• 1:01:27
  staggered into a different movie here. Um, "The lack of logic is staggering.
• 1:01:33
  I could go on and on, but it's pointless since everyone else apparently thinks
• 1:01:38
  this is the most amazing zombie movie ever made for some reason.
• 1:01:44
  Long story short, a pretty terrible movie with terrible acting.
• 1:01:48
  P.S. Love the Audi product placement, though."
• 1:01:55
  Kearns: I'm trying to
• 1:01:55
  Ryan: we know
• 1:01:55
  Kearns: think
• 1:01:56
  Ryan: know they drive an Audi.
• 1:01:57
  That's
• 1:01:58
  Jon: Yeah, or at least long to drive an Audi.
• 1:02:01
  Kearns: Yeah
• 1:02:02
  Ryan: wish.
• 1:02:03
  Jon: Yeah
• 1:02:04
  Ryan: I disagree.
• 1:02:05
  I mean, I get the hand thing as we were discussing, but I, I mean, to each its own
• 1:02:12
  Kearns: None of that stuff pulls you away from all the amazing aspects.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, I, I hadn't really thought about the fact that they cast a 30-year-old
• 1:02:18
  to play the grandma and, like, did her
• 1:02:20
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Kearns: I don't know if that's his
• 1:02:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Kearns: Whatever.
• 1:02:23
  But she does the job.
• 1:02:25
  Jon: Yeah
• 1:02:26
  Kearns: you know, peels the boiled egg and all that stuff.
• 1:02:30
  It's fine.
• 1:02:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Like, I mean, that doesn't really affect me in any way watching this movie.
• 1:02:38
  The only thing that he says that I, I can get behind is the
• 1:02:42
  sticking the hand in the mouth
• 1:02:43
  Kearns: Yep.
• 1:02:44
  And that to me is like you're, well, you're gonna find out when I give my
• 1:02:47
  review, it's not that big of a deal
• 1:02:49
  Jon: Nope.
• 1:02:50
  Um, and one more one star.
• 1:02:53
  One star.
• 1:02:55
  I'm literally furious right now.
• 1:02:58
  It gets plus half a star for granny opening the train doors after her
• 1:03:03
  sister gets eaten, but I am so mad at the rest of this dumbassery.
• 1:03:08
  The emotional
• 1:03:10
  Kearns: in the movie
• 1:03:13
  Jon: the emotional high at the end doesn't really hit when you put your hand
• 1:03:19
  over a zombie's mouth and then get bit.
• 1:03:23
  He could have tossed him over the side before he got combative.
• 1:03:27
  He could have used literally any other part of a-hole dude's body, but no.
• 1:03:35
  We're stuck with this, and then you give the sad pinky piano music
• 1:03:40
  like I should be sad and feel bad.
• 1:03:43
  Nah.
• 1:03:44
  That's all you, buddy.
• 1:03:46
  I feel nothing but vitriol for this film.
• 1:03:50
  Kearns: is right.
• 1:03:51
  So
• 1:03:51
  Jon: Yeah
• 1:03:52
  Kearns: who didn't pick up on the entire character arc of Seok-woo
• 1:03:56
  becoming S- Soo-an's dad, and like that whole over… Which they hammer home
• 1:04:02
  further when they're walking through the tunnel and she sings the song,
• 1:04:05
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:06
  Kearns: is gone, but like
• 1:04:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:10
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:11
  Kearns: It's just,
• 1:04:11
  Jon: was present when I needed him
• 1:04:13
  Kearns: Exactly.
• 1:04:15
  And just like how gripping and heartbreaking that is.
• 1:04:18
  So this guy also sucks.
• 1:04:20
  This
• 1:04:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:04:21
  Kearns: chud review.
• 1:04:23
  Jon: So
• 1:04:24
  Kearns: a chud, sir
• 1:04:25
  Jon: let's see if either of you are chuds or did you love Train to Busan?
• 1:04:31
  Kearns: Let's, I want Ryan to go first 'cause he, he
• 1:04:31
  gets corrupted by our reviews
• 1:04:35
  Ryan: Uh, I don't get corrupted.
• 1:04:37
  I- everyone thinks I get corrupted.
• 1:04:39
  It's a little bit sometimes, but I see the view.
• 1:04:42
  But, um, I'm gonna give this a 4.05, 4.25 out of 5.
• 1:04:50
  Jon: That's it?
• 1:04:53
  Ryan: it's not, uh
• 1:04:53
  Kearns: I guarantee you he would've gone higher after if you said five.
• 1:04:59
  You would've been like, "You know, I had like a four, seven, you
• 1:05:01
  know, it's a five. It's a five."
• 1:05:02
  Ryan: it's a 4.25.
• 1:05:04
  It's a really good zombie film.
• 1:05:05
  Uh, I was telling John that it's definitely out of my top five zombie
• 1:05:10
  films to watch besides the first George Romero trilogy and Return of Living Dead.
• 1:05:15
  I feel Train to Busan hits not only with the horror, the thrill,
• 1:05:19
  but there's emotion in it.
• 1:05:21
  And I feel like watching a lot of zombie films recently more, has
• 1:05:26
  to be this message that resonates with the audience besides zombies
• 1:05:32
  un-aliving everyone, this hits home.
• 1:05:35
  And it's just beautifully done.
• 1:05:37
  I mean, yeah, okay, puts his hand in the zombie's mouth.
• 1:05:41
  was his only way he thought he can save his daughter and, you know,
• 1:05:46
  the pregnant woman, you know?
• 1:05:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:05:48
  Ryan: Quick thinking.
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  I- 4.25.
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  I'm sticking with it
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  Kearns: 4.75 on me.
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  Uh, the, the
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  Ryan: five
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  Kearns: down, the, the, the .25 off is the hand thing.
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  I get that Seok-woo needed to turn, but they could have done it better.
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  That's all.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: sticks out because it's a stain on an immaculate film.
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  Uh,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: I probably would've given it a five.
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  It's not quite there to be like the blue star rating, but
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  it's, I mean, it's so good.
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  I was excited for the first time in a long time bef- like, Pans made me excited
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  too, but, uh, to see this come up on the rotation, I was like, "Oh my God, I
• 1:06:31
  remember this movie," and just got excited 'cause I really enjoyed this movie.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: The end.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  And I, I'm right with you.
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  This is a 4.75 for me.
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  It's about as close to a five as you can get without getting a five,
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  and it really is that one moment that keeps it from being a five.
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  Any other way for Siact to get bit, I, I, I'm cool with.
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  I can make that work.
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  But to just, to do it that way sort of misses me a bit.
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  But the rest of this is just as good as you can get for me
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  Kearns: I mean
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  It's like,
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  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Kearns: It's
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: other option.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:22
  Kearns: to go.
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  Jon: Yep.
• 1:07:24
  Kearns: I digress
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  Jon: But yeah, 4.75
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  All right.
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  guys, it is time for your top fives
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  Ryan: Top fives.
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  Top fives tonight I am going with top five foreign films, and we're gonna
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  start it off, we're going to 1972 with a Spanish-Portuguese horror film.
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  It's a film I should have never watched at a young age, but I watched it.
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  I snuck in my uncle's closet, he had his horror films.
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  in the VCR, and I got to see… Oh,
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  Jon: movies
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  Ryan: not the title.
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  Yes, uh, there are boobies in Tombs of the Blind Dead.
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  the background is it is that the legend has it that in a abandoned medieval town
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  of Borzano, the Knights of Templar, a fictionalized version of the real-life
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  order that was dissolved in the 14th century, leave their tombs at night and
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  come back from the dead as revenants.
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  Their reanimated corpses are blind because their eyes were pecked
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  out by birds because witchcraft.
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  But it's a great film.
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  It's got a few sequels.
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  If you love the medieval horror, it hits it right, and it's not
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  a happy ending, which, you know.
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  And that leads to my number four.
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  My number four, we've talked about it before, and that's
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  House by the Cemetery, 1981.
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  I- released in America, but it is definitely a foreign film because it
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  was produced in Italy, edited in Italy.
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  So, it's a great film, too.
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  The idea of being in house of a murderer basically, and then the murderer's
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  still living after all these years.
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  It's a slow build, but it hits the spot.
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  And then we get to number three.
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  We mentioned this, too, before.
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  Cronos, Guillermo del Toro's first film outing.
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  I thought you were gonna say something.
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  What, Guillermo?
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  Kearns: No, we're just gonna let you
• 1:09:21
  Jon: Guillermo.
• 1:09:22
  Kearns: We're, we're done, we're done mocking you
• 1:09:25
  Jon: Guillermo
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  Kearns: Gr- great
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  Ryan: Well, Gla- Glamour, the idea of a antique owner finding a scarab
• 1:09:31
  that allows you to live forever is just a brilliant idea of the vampire
• 1:09:36
  story in relation to Egyptian lore.
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  And then we get to number two.
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  I just saw this today for the first time, and that's Ju-On: The Grudge.
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  If… Yeah, I'd never seen it before.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I've never even seen the American version either.
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  I avoided, av- I avoided all of that, and to be honest, I'm happy I did because
• 1:09:59
  the original one is where you have to go.
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  Don't watch the American remakes.
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  Go with the original one.
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  I didn't even know The Ring was a Japanese remake until we talked about it.
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  yeah, Japanese remake.
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  But digress because number one is definitely something we need to cover.
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  don't wanna get into it a lot because I don't wanna spoil it.
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  It's called Cure.
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  Uh, John recommended.
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  Watched it, loved it.
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  If you love Se7en, you're going into that world minus the gore
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  because it's more of the psychology.
• 1:10:34
  The psych- psychological horror than the gore horror, and
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: all I'm gonna leave it at that.
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  But those are my top five, uh, horror foreign films.
• 1:10:42
  And John, what's, up to you tonight, man?
• 1:10:45
  What's your top five?
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  Jon: All right.
• 1:10:48
  So my top five is, winds up being more than a top five, but you'll
• 1:10:52
  understand as I go through it.
• 1:10:54
  Um, so my top five is really five more zombie movies where people are the
• 1:11:02
  bigger threat than the zombies are
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  Kearns: Nice
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  Ryan: Okay
• 1:11:12
  Jon: So my number five, we talked about episode three, so go back and listen.
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  It's Overlord.
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  And how can, a zombie style movie that has Nazis in it have the
• 1:11:24
  zombies be any worse than the Nazis?
• 1:11:27
  so the, survivors are worse than the zombies in this case, like, 'cause
• 1:11:33
  they're Nazis, and they're not only more dangerous, they're also creating the
• 1:11:38
  undead army that is causing the threat in an attempt to build a super soldier.
• 1:11:45
  small group of Americans on a secret mission stumble upon the
• 1:11:48
  experiment and must stop the Nazis.
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  Go back and listen to episode three
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  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:11:56
  Jon: and see what we, thought about Overlord.
• 1:11:59
  Kearns: Overlord
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  Jon: f- absolutely
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  Ryan: that's the one with our animated features too
• 1:12:05
  Kearns: Yes, sir
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  Jon: Yep.
• 1:12:07
  My, number four is a remake, and it's a remake of Romero
• 1:12:17
  I'm going with the crazies.
• 1:12:19
  Kearns: Oh,
• 1:12:19
  Jon: The crazies, yep.
• 1:12:21
  so a toxin turns townspeople into flesh-starved monsters.
• 1:12:26
  Survivors a- attempt to band together and escape, but escape will not be easy as
• 1:12:31
  the military has set up a perimeter with instructions to shoot all citizens in
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  this remake of a George Romero classic.
• 1:12:41
  so yeah, it's the military.
• 1:12:42
  The military, and generally when you see the military show up in
• 1:12:46
  a zombie movie, they are going to be worse than the zombies.
• 1:12:50
  See Day of the Dead
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  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:12:55
  It's on your shirt too
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  Jon: Yeah, it is on my shirt.
• 1:12:59
  my number three, we're gonna go to Robert Rodriguez and his half of Grindhouse.
• 1:13:08
  And you get the double, you get the bad military guys, but
• 1:13:12
  you also get the bad doctor.
• 1:13:15
  so in Robert Rodriguez's half of Grindhouse, it's not just the
• 1:13:19
  military that puts survivors at risk, but also a deranged spouse.
• 1:13:25
  Dr. William Block is not willing to let his wife, Dr. Dakota Block,
• 1:13:30
  leave him, and go- goes to great and horrifying lengths to ensure that if he
• 1:13:38
  can't have her, no one will and here's where we get into more than one per.
• 1:13:45
  my number two, I'm g- we'll call it 28 Days Later, but it's the entire franchise.
• 1:13:51
  The people are just as bad as the zombies in 28 Days Later.
• 1:13:58
  It's the military again.
• 1:13:59
  so recurring theme in the entire franchise is the hell of other people.
• 1:14:05
  In the aftermath of a viral outbreak, survivors in England attempt to flee
• 1:14:10
  the city to a remote area that promises a safe haven, only to discover that
• 1:14:16
  the soldiers in charge are just as ravenous as the infected chasing them
• 1:14:24
  Ryan: Work
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  Jon: And I think we can all guess where I'm going number one, because
• 1:14:32
  I can't do a list of anything related to zombies without George Romero.
• 1:14:37
  my number one is gonna be Dawn, but you can- Dawn of the Dead, but it can really
• 1:14:42
  be any of the Romero zombie movies, because there's always the underlying
• 1:14:47
  theme of how awful the other survivors is.
• 1:14:51
  And in Dawn, it's consistent, whether it's a TV producer ordering closed
• 1:14:58
  rescue stations to stay on the air, or a SWAT team member losing it
• 1:15:03
  in, losing it on a, on a apartment complex, to a marauding biker gang
• 1:15:10
  wrecking the sanctity of the mall.
• 1:15:13
  The survivors in Dawn are every bit as dangerous as the zombies, and you can
• 1:15:19
  say that about people in Night, you can say that about the military in Day, you
• 1:15:25
  can say it about Dennis Hopper in Land.
• 1:15:29
  It's the whole s- everything he did, people are, just as bad,
• 1:15:33
  and that's my top five this week
• 1:15:36
  Ryan: Now that was a twist.
• 1:15:37
  I thought you were gonna say Night of the Living Dead, uh, for the one character.
• 1:15:40
  Um, I'm forgetting his name, the father.
• 1:15:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm
• 1:15:43
  Ryan: you were gonna go in that direction.
• 1:15:44
  But Don, no, Don was… You nail it right on the head.
• 1:15:48
  I feel like
• 1:15:48
  Jon: Super.
• 1:15:49
  Ryan: on, you
• 1:15:50
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  Ryan: with that, with a love society compared to day and
• 1:15:54
  Jon: yeah.
• 1:15:55
  Every ste- every step of the way in Dawn, it's the people
• 1:15:59
  Kearns: You can go so many ways with these movies.
• 1:16:01
  Like, we, we touched on that this one's really an eco-terror movie,
• 1:16:04
  but it's 100% also talks about, like, what types of people suck.
• 1:16:09
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:09
  Kearns: And Romero's movies are all have that deeper theme as well
• 1:16:14
  about people being the real problem.
• 1:16:16
  And, and most movies you watch,
• 1:16:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:20
  Kearns: screwed up by a guy or a gal
• 1:16:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Kearns: You know,
• 1:16:25
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:16:25
  I think…
• 1:16:26
  Kearns: Later, it's the kids outside banging on the door, and they gotta
• 1:16:29
  Jon: Yep
• 1:16:30
  Kearns: I mean, we all probably would've done the same thing, but human error.
• 1:16:34
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:16:35
  And the, the f- the first bad dad we encountered
• 1:16:39
  Ryan: Yep.
• 1:16:41
  It's like one of the best, best scenes in…
• 1:16:44
  Kearns: Oh, it's so brutal.
• 1:16:45
  She gets hit sticked in the window and you're like, "Oh, no." And
• 1:16:48
  that's, that's William Wallace's wife.
• 1:16:51
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:52
  Kearns: gets taken out.
• 1:16:54
  Two movies that we've
• 1:16:55
  Jon: Yep
• 1:16:57
  Kearns: It's terrible.
• 1:16:58
  But anyway, guys, that was Train to Busan.
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  We hope you enjoyed
• 1:17:01
  Ryan: uh, yep.
• 1:17:03
  Check it out, watch the film, watch the podcast, and don't take any trains
• 1:17:08
  Kearns: Or do,
• 1:17:09
  Jon: Or take them.
• 1:17:10
  Kearns: public transit, yeah.
• 1:17:11
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Ryan: fifty
• 1:17:14
  Jon: See ya