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- 0:00So have you ever heard of a narcissistic injury?
- 0:03What about a narcissistic collapse?
- 0:05Are those two the same thing? Are they different?
- 0:07Do they go together? Like peanut butter and Jelly on
- 0:10a wheat sandwich? Wheat with a sandwich with wheat
- 0:12bread. That's what we're talking about
- 0:14today, y'all. If you're new here, my name is
- 0:16Lee Hammock. I'm a diagnosed narcissist here
- 0:18to give you the inside look at the mind of a narcissist.
- 0:22And that's what we talked about today.
- 0:23Y'all narcissistic injuries and narcissistic collapses.
- 0:27I know y'all probably heard of it.
- 0:28Y'all, if you have dealt or dabbled in a narcissistic or
- 0:32toxic relationship, then you've definitely heard about the
- 0:36narcissistic collapse or narcissistic injury.
- 0:38Oh, Lee, did I? I get this in my comment
- 0:41sections all the time. Lee, did I cause a narcissistic
- 0:43injury when I said this? Did I?
- 0:45Did I cause a narcissistic injury when I did this or did
- 0:48that that? Yeah, did this?
- 0:51Is this what a narcissist the collapse really looks like?
- 0:53Lee, can you please help me out? Lee, you were diagnosed
- 0:56narcissist. Tell me, tell me, tell me.
- 0:58I got you. Calm down.
- 1:00Let's vibe. Let's vibe a little bit first.
- 1:02Like buy me a drink first. Damn.
- 1:06No, but seriously, narcissist, the injuries happened, y'all.
- 1:10They're they're not the same thing.
- 1:12I would say that, and this is my perspective.
- 1:13Y'all, some people might disagree with me.
- 1:14Y'all, you're allowed to disagree.
- 1:16Let's just keep it respectful. Can we keep it respectful?
- 1:18Let's all ask, right. So narcissistic injuries are
- 1:24smaller than narcissistic collapses.
- 1:26I truly believe that a narcissistic collapse is a, an
- 1:29accumulation of narcissistic injuries, right?
- 1:34So if you don't know what a narcissistic injury is, it's
- 1:37when the narcissist image or their ego or their reputation or
- 1:42something like that, or their identity is threatened, right?
- 1:46It's a threatened. It's threatens it like a
- 1:48criticism. A small criticism can be
- 1:51perceived as a narcissistic injury, like a small criticism.
- 1:55Like you tell me something like you're not as good as you think
- 1:57you are. You're not as smart as you think
- 1:59you are. Hey, you could do.
- 2:01Yeah. Even constructive criticism can
- 2:03be perceived by that narcissistic person as a
- 2:06narcissistic injury. And I know that sounds crazy.
- 2:09I know that sounds weird, but that's the truth.
- 2:12Constructive criticism can actually be perceived by that
- 2:15narcissistic person as a narcissistic injury, right?
- 2:18They're just thinking like, well damn, what are you saying to me?
- 2:20What? What, what?
- 2:21Why are you saying this to me? Why are you attacking me?
- 2:23This is what y'all, This is why we are dealing with a
- 2:27narcissist. And you say something to them.
- 2:29You say something small to them if they make it something bigger
- 2:32than what it needs to be. And you, you're like, I didn't
- 2:35say nothing mean to you. Why you being so mean to me?
- 2:37I didn't say nothing to you. I didn't did nothing to you.
- 2:40Why you being so angry with me, right?
- 2:43And that happens to so many people when you're dealing with
- 2:45a narcissist, right? When you're dealing with the
- 2:46manipulator or abuser, this is what happens.
- 2:49So you understand exactly where I'm coming from when I say this,
- 2:52There's like something small to a narcissist will be taken will
- 2:56be amplified to the maximum extent.
- 2:59You'll be like and you be you be confused as hell.
- 3:02You be like, what the hell did I do to this person to to make
- 3:05them attack me? I didn't say nothing wrong to
- 3:08you, but damn, you coming at me like you crazy.
- 3:10We got my voice cracking, y'all. I'm going through narcissistic
- 3:14pubies. So if you hear my voice get high
- 3:17because I'm growing up, y'all, I'm coming in empath.
- 3:23When a narcissist goes to therapy for long enough, they go
- 3:26through narcissistic puberty and they're they're narcissistic
- 3:29voice cracks and they become a they come become an empath.
- 3:32It's like becoming a butterfly. I'm kidding, y'all?
- 3:37I'm kidding. Yeah.
- 3:40I joke. I joke on this channel.
- 3:42This channel is not just about narcissism.
- 3:44It's about bringing levity to a tough subject to a tough subject
- 3:47to a tough topic. So I'm going to joke.
- 3:50Yeah, I'm sorry. We want to.
- 3:51We joke over here, right? And This is why so many things
- 3:54happen like narcissistic people do this, right?
- 3:58Well, you, they take some, let's say you, you question their ego,
- 4:01you question their motive, you question their authenticity.
- 4:04You catch them in a lie, you hold them accountable, you call
- 4:07them out. Those are narcissistic injuries.
- 4:10Those little things add up, right?
- 4:12Those are threatening my ego. Do you haven't fractured the
- 4:14ego, You threaten it like you crack like every time you
- 4:17criticize me or hold me accountable or hold that
- 4:20narcissistic person in your life accountable, Every time you call
- 4:23them out on something, every time you catch them in a lie,
- 4:25every time you catch them cheating, they're lying,
- 4:27whatever, right? You catch them doing something.
- 4:30Those are little cracks in their ego.
- 4:32Those are little cracks. Those threat that look, you can
- 4:34drive your car with a crack in the windshield.
- 4:36I got a crack in my windshield right now.
- 4:38I don't know where it came from. I got a crack in my windshield
- 4:40right now. The car is still drivable,
- 4:42right? So just imagine that narcissist
- 4:44ego in their identity. It's like a car's windshield.
- 4:47It's got cracks in it, little little spotter line crack.
- 4:49You can still drive with it, right?
- 4:50It's fine. But when guess what happens,
- 4:53when too many of those cracks happen?
- 4:56That's when the rearview, that's not a review.
- 4:57That's when the windshield collapses and that's when you
- 5:00get a narcissistic collapse. When you get too many
- 5:04narcissistic injuries and they add up, that's when you get a
- 5:08full on collapse of the ego. That's when you get a full on
- 5:11narcissistic collapse exposure too much.
- 5:14You've questioned my identity so much.
- 5:16You threaten my identity so much over and over again.
- 5:19You hit me so many times with the truth.
- 5:21You hit me so many times with accountability or whatever the
- 5:23case may be. And now crack, boom, the
- 5:27windshield caves in there. Look, hey, look, you can still
- 5:31drive a car with a with the windshield missing, but it's not
- 5:35recommended. Just imagine driving a car.
- 5:38Just imagine driving a car with the windshield missing.
- 5:41That would be a very interesting experience You get to see.
- 5:45But back to all the bugs and the debris.
- 5:47Imagine all the stuff that your windshield protects you from,
- 5:49like a bird. Bird you'd be driving and a bird
- 5:52to fly for your windshield you eat.
- 5:55So that's what the that's what the narcissist ego is protecting
- 5:58them from all this stuff from the outside world.
- 6:00So now that the I've got so many narcissistic injuries, my ego
- 6:05has collapsed, my identity has collapsed.
- 6:07I don't know who the hell I am anymore.
- 6:11So now I lash out. Now you get more narcissistic
- 6:15rage. So narcissistic rage is a
- 6:17protection of the ego, right? It's a protection of the ego.
- 6:20It's a self-defense mechanism. This is why when you cause
- 6:23narcissistic injuries, you typically get narcissistic rage.
- 6:26But once you finally cause the narcissistic collapse, you might
- 6:29get a psychopath, you might get a psycho on your hands, you
- 6:32might get them snapping and blacking out and trying to hurt
- 6:35you or harm you and do so many different things to you.
- 6:39This could happen to so many people, right?
- 6:40This happens over and over and over again.
- 6:44This is what you're going to experience sometimes, right?
- 6:47This is what you're going to go through when you're doing a
- 6:49narcissistic person. They can become very, very
- 6:51dangerous. Now when a narcissistic collapse
- 6:53happens because they don't know who they are anymore, like this
- 6:57happens, Let's let's just say you threaten to expose them.
- 7:00That's a narcissistic injury. But now you expose them on a
- 7:03TikTok and it goes viral. That's a collapse because they
- 7:06have this reputation of being an outstanding member of society,
- 7:09but now they're there's videos of them being physically abusive
- 7:13towards you or getting caught cheating.
- 7:15There's something online that exposes them for who they really
- 7:17are. And now they can't keep lying
- 7:19anymore. Now the truth is out.
- 7:22So now their ego is their fragile ego is going to collapse
- 7:25and now they don't. They don't know who the hell
- 7:27they are, what the hell to do next.
- 7:29So you guys, this is what's going on.
- 7:31So now they snap, now they're lost.
- 7:33Now they don't know who they are.
- 7:34So when a narcissistic collapse happen, watch out, seriously
- 7:38watch out because they can become extremely dangerous.
- 7:40They can be they can be dangerous when you cause a
- 7:42narcissistic injuries, but when you cause the collapse, wash the
- 7:45hell out, right? Just think about it right here
- 7:48in this, in this instance, right here, I'm going to give you an
- 7:50example. Like let's just say you have a,
- 7:52you're dealing with a narcissistic person that's in
- 7:54the like this. Let's just say they're in the
- 7:56Marines or something like that, right?
- 7:57They're in the Army, armed forces, Navy, whatever.
- 8:00The military in the military, right?
- 8:03And the military is their life. They were, they, they were their
- 8:05uniform everywhere. They just they, they saluting,
- 8:09they doing all kinds of stuff. They just, you know that they're
- 8:11in the military. They got the haircut.
- 8:12They, they in the military, right?
- 8:13They live in military lifestyle and then now you expose them for
- 8:18cheating. You know cheating in the
- 8:19military get you, they can get your ass kicked out of the
- 8:21military, right? You can get you kicked out of
- 8:23the military. You can lose rank pay.
- 8:26You lose so many, so many different things.
- 8:28So now you catch them cheating and you expose them to their
- 8:31higher ups, to their, to their, to their, I forgot what they
- 8:35call it to their commanding officer and now they get kicked
- 8:39out. The military collapse, right?
- 8:43Narcissistic collapse. Now they don't know who they are
- 8:46anymore. Now because I'm not in the Army
- 8:49anymore, I'm not a Marine anymore.
- 8:51I have nothing to lose. You see?
- 8:55You see how dangerous somebody like that, like that can become?
- 8:57Because now they feel like they have nothing to lose.
- 8:59They might come for you. You might be a target now
- 9:02because they feel like they have nothing to lose.
- 9:04So they might come to for you and try to hurt you or try to
- 9:06harm you or something like that. They might try to harm
- 9:09themselves because now they don't know who they are.
- 9:12They don't know who they are anymore.
- 9:14So you have to watch out for that.
- 9:15That's very, that's a very unique thing to be a part of
- 9:17right there. Y'all, when you're dealing with
- 9:19a narcissistic person because they can become very, very
- 9:21dangerous when their ego finally collapses, like when their ego
- 9:26finally collapses, they can become an extremely dangerous
- 9:29person. So you have to literally,
- 9:32literally y'all, you have to literally be careful.
- 9:35You know, that's why people ask me like, should I expose them to
- 9:37the new supply? Should I expose them to the
- 9:39higher ups? Should I expose them to their
- 9:41boss? Should I expose them to their
- 9:43family? I tell people you can do that,
- 9:45but always be careful, always be safe, always think about what
- 9:48will happen. Always think about what happens
- 9:50next in these situation, in these scenarios.
- 9:52What's the what's the outcome that you're expecting when this
- 9:56happens? If this were to happen, when
- 9:58this does go down, what are you expecting the outcome to be?
- 10:02Because that's important that you acknowledge what you expect
- 10:04the outcome to be. Because I'm just telling you,
- 10:06narcissistic people are typically going to lose their
- 10:09minds when they collapse, when their ego is threatened, when
- 10:12they can no longer be a police officer or a firefighter or a
- 10:15nurse or a doctor or a lawyer or whatever.
- 10:18They are whatever they, whatever, they're the most proud
- 10:21of the people they introduce themselves as, right?
- 10:24They help the homeless, whatever it is that they do, their
- 10:27identity or the reputation is threatened.
- 10:30That can cause a huge collapse of their ego.
- 10:32When their ego collapses, they lash out at everybody else
- 10:35around. Instead of taking accountability
- 10:36for what happened, what caused the collapse, they lash out at
- 10:40everybody else around them. They blame everybody else around
- 10:42them for what has happened, not themselves.
- 10:44They don't look internally. What?
- 10:45Because they are looking internally?
- 10:46Would make too much sense now, wouldn't it?
- 10:48Looking deep inside of you would make too much sense now,
- 10:50wouldn't it? So instead of doing that, they
- 10:53look externally, they go crazy, they lose their minds, this type
- 10:57of stuff starts to happen and they can become extremely,
- 10:59extremely dangerous. So that's why I just like when
- 11:02you expose them to the new supply, to their family, to the
- 11:05higher ups, to the police. When you call the police on
- 11:07them, they get arrested and they lose their job or whatever.
- 11:09Their family knows who they are. The church, like I said, higher
- 11:12ups in the church, a pastor or somebody like that.
- 11:15Be careful, be careful. You expose their affair to
- 11:19everybody. When they've been they looked at
- 11:20as as this good, holy, holier than thou person.
- 11:23You expose their affair, you expose their their actuality,
- 11:27right? They're not, they're not as
- 11:29hetero as they presume to be, right?
- 11:33You threaten your identity in that case right there.
- 11:35That's when they could lash out at you.
- 11:37Pastor Hammock out here lying and cheating and doing all kinds
- 11:41of stuff with he this heathens and these these whores in the
- 11:44Pew. You know what I'm saying?
- 11:46They can expose me and cost me my identity.
- 11:48So there's a difference between a narcissistic injury and a
- 11:51collapse. I always think the collapse is
- 11:52worse. You know, do you want to get
- 11:54people at the district rule with me to say, hey, Lee, they're
- 11:55both the same thing and I can see that, right?
- 11:58They can just be more words than you have to learn and whatnot.
- 12:02So I'm actually working on the narcissistic alphabet.
- 12:04I know I mentioned this in the previous video, but I'm working
- 12:07on the narcissistic alphabet. Every letter of the alphabet I'm
- 12:10going to assign a I'm going to sign a definition for like a
- 12:14could be accountability, right? C could be collapsed,
- 12:17narcissistic collapse. I could be a narcissistic
- 12:20injury. You see, I'm going to do that,
- 12:22but I I need just thoughts right here.
- 12:24Should I do it all in one video, every letter in one video?
- 12:28Or should I break it up into a series?
- 12:29I can do it in one video, just be a longer video, but to to be
- 12:32a series, I might do it in one video.
- 12:33But yeah, leave our thoughts in the comment section.
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