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Delivery Vehicles and Social Media · United We Scan

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  Hey, welcome to the United We Scan podcast.
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  Thank you. Welcome back everybody.
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  Episode 134. I'm going to kind of call this
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  take two because, well, we were all ready to go Sunday and then
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  I had a bit of an emergency with Ruby.
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  Don't worry, she's fine. She just messed up her knee
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  again and has an ortho appointment Friday.
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  I am back from Italy and we do have a guest with us tonight.
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  My, my, my buddy buddy that spent the week, I spent the week
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  in Italy with and yeah, she's still talking to me, so.
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  I could say the same thing. Right, right.
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  Well, we'll talk a little bit about our trip too, why we're
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  why we're on here, but I think we're going to dive in.
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  One of the main reasons she's on here tonight is she's been
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  driving an NGDV since July. Yeah, I think it was late July.
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  Yeah. So we're gonna kind of do a dive
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  on the different postal vehicles that we all have experience
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  with. And Lynette can talk a little
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  bit about the NGDV for us. So that'll be kind of cool and I
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  know we got some other stuff to we're going to touch on briefly
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  quickly and whatnot. But other than that, I know it's
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  been a couple weeks, but I wasn't going to let everybody go
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  without a whole another week. So I said, hey, let's see if we
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  can do this Tuesday. Ruby's over here giving me the
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  woo woo, so hey. Guys, Hi.
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  But. Yeah, so feel better soon.
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  Yeah, she's getting there. How was the past couple weeks
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  for you, Josh? Oh I'm still playing truck
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  roulette so on my olog I'm only at about 18 hours right now.
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  Only granted I did have 6 1/2 before the truck roulette
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  started so. And Oh yeah, and then the one
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  truck, the one truck that they did give me that said this one's
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  yours, Kept stalling. That was Friday, kept stalling
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  out. Saturday, kept stalling out.
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  So I rode it up. Mechanic worked on it for like
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  2-3 hours on Monday. I got out a third of the way
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  through the route and it stalled and would not crank back up.
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  Rode it, got towed in, rode it. They caught it back in.
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  He came, he replaced all the ignition hardware Monday.
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  Tuesday it stalled out at the stop sign just before the turn
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  where it stalled the day before. Got to it, got it back in got
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  it. And this time he replaced all
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  the sensors. At this point he says it's
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  either needs an engine because it's overheating at that 4 hour
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  mark and cuts off or and or the computer.
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  So we'll see what happens. And they gave me a truck one up
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  that said, will we assign this one to you?
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  That was a Wednesday, I'm off Thursdays.
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  And I wrote it up because the auxiliary fan wasn't not all.
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  And one of my Co workers called me Thursday morning saying, hey,
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  where are the keys to that truck?
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  I'm like, I wrote it up for the fan and I haven't seen the keys
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  to that one back since. So oh, it is an LLV Fender.
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  So yeah, but I'm going to have, since I'm on a Friday, Saturday
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  rotation, my K days, I will have a four day weekend this weekend
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  because on top of all that, my car decided to call it quits
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  after 15 years and 273,000 miles.
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  I'm being told it well, they're like, well, there's two code,
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  you know it, it wouldn't start Friday morning.
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  So I headed into a shop and they told me it needed it, just
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  needed the battery, you know, but the symptoms are not
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  battery, didn't sound battery related when I wouldn't,
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  wouldn't start. And I'm like, did you test the
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  alternator? They said yeah, I tested fine.
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  The battery wasn't passing the load test.
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  OK, fine, put the battery in it. Saturday, my wife got her sister
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  to drop her off on her way out of town.
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  She gets in it, it starts shimmying, shaking.
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  She gets about a block down and the engine light came on and
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  through a couple of codes that by them by themselves is, you
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  know, not so much, but the two codes combined potentially means
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  it needs a transmission. But like, you can try this first
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  or that, you know, the 11 or both of these things to see if
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  that resolves it. So for my anniversary this
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  weekend coming, I'm getting a gamey.
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  Yeah, I know how. That.
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  Goes how about How about you? Meow, how was your week?
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  I know about the them vehicle troubles I guess, but I didn't
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  really. Have the vehicle.
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  Troubles yeah because I just got a new car and I don't enjoy the
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  car payment but my OK so last week was it oh that was the day
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  after Columbus Day the Saturday before that we we're a state
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  that they send out the. Ballots.
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  Ballots to ballots to each person in my state.
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  So the Saturday before Columbus Day, I had about 3500 pieces of
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  DPS 'cause it was ballots. And then on top of like, you
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  know, we start getting all that seasonal mail for Christmas and
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  then we were beginning to get the Prime Day parcel.
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  So it was a little crazy. And then we were off for
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  Columbus Day, and then the Tuesday after my 45 K that used
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  to be a 46 K that went down had 4500 pieces of DPS plus all of
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  the Prime Day stuff. And so working on that day,
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  knowing I was going to make less money was kind of frustrating.
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  But, but in all honesty, I mean, I have the radar reports and
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  that was the highest DPS totals that I've had for about two
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  years, so 4500 pieces. So it was kind of crazy.
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  And then it's just been kind of clean up since then.
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  I was off today, my kids been off from school, so I've been
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  home with him. And what else happened?
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  We had my district meeting that was fun and we had like 1 new
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  first timer there so that was really cool.
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  And yeah, just been trying to enjoy fall and Halloween because
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  it's my this is like my favorite time of year.
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  So I tried to enjoy it, but it doesn't always end up that way
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  so. Kristen.
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  Or no. Oh, we have Lynette.
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  Let's let's ask Lynette. Oh, my question.
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  Yeah. Last Monday is when we flew home
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  from Italy. What a day that was.
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  Oh my, that was a day and. Over being over in Italy, you
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  know we went all day, a lot of walking like every day over
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  there and the plane took off at 7:00 PM, 8/8 and 1/2 hour
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  flight. But we landed here at 10:00 PM
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  in New York City, which is 4 hours from my house.
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  So after being up all day, land at 10, we had to get to my car,
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  get out of the airport, get to my car, get something to eat.
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  By the time we got back to my house, it was close to, I don't
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  know, 3:34 AM, which was fine. But my mom, my mom lives with
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  me. She's 84.
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  She, she had an appointment at 7:00 AM, about 45 minutes away.
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  So got my alarm for two hours, got up and took my mom.
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  She had an appointment for a lung.
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  She's she's got asthma and breathing issues now.
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  But we were we were at her appointments till probably, you
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  know, 10/30/11. Then I get back home and I had
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  to take Kristen to the airport at noon.
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  So, so I still couldn't sleep. So I took Kristen to the airport
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  and then to fly back to Michigan.
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  And I'm like, hey, I must have tried to stay up as a little bit
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  longer. I get home and I took my dogs to
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  the dog park. I don't know.
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  I finally slept. And then it was hard to get back
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  on track, though I kept waking up at 4:00 in the morning
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  because 4:00 in the morning here is 10 AM in Italy.
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  Yeah. I, I can't sleep later than that
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  anyway, I don't know. I came back to work.
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  I went back to delivering mail Thursday.
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  It wasn't bad. My my sub takes good care of my
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  route on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
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  I was off. Yesterday I worked, but my
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  regular day off is Tuesday because you know, that's in DC,
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  which is fine because I don't have to use my sick time because
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  I, I make my mom's appointments always on Tuesdays.
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  So today my day off, she had, she had another appointment at
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  10 and so that took like 4 hours of my day, which is fine.
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  But that's all. How about you, Kristen?
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  Well, when I finally got home home on Tuesday night about 9:00
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  PM because it's a 3 1/2 hour drive from Detroit to my house
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  and and I'd already planned on Wednesday off, but my planar
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  fasciitis flared up two days before we left for Italy.
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  And so I made sure I took some Aleve with me and some KT tape
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  and I huffed it out. We averaged between one day.
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  I think the the the least bit we walked was 7 miles.
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  I think we did 15 miles on the most.
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  So we averaged about between 7 to 10 miles a day walking.
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  And so my left heel is still in pain, but I could hardly walk.
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  So I decided Wednesday I was like, screw this, I'm not gonna
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  go back to work till Monday. So I got on light blue, went at
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  Elra about 1:00 in the afternoon, put in for two days
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  of sick leave and said, yeah. So I went back to work Monday
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  and yeah, I I had to clean up. I wasn't too happy.
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  I knew I was gonna have some cleanup.
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  I mean, that's expected. I was gone for two full weeks.
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  I expected to clean up a little bit.
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  I was not expecting to walk into what I walked into, so Needless
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  to say, my temperament at work has not been the greatest the
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  last two days. Our calves are.
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  I'm just pleasantly. Surprised when I.
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  Yeah, was it? I'm, I'm just probably surprised
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  when I don't walk into what you walked into.
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  And that's after one day, let alone a week or two.
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  I walked in yesterday to a nice hefty stack of rubber banded
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  bundles of DPS stacked up. So I instantly went and grabbed
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  the yardstick and measured that shit and I'm like 06 inches huh.
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  Don't know where it came from. No notes, no nothing.
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  Hadn't no clue. Supervisors know where to be
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  found. Postmaster supposedly is gone
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  this week. Supervisors hiding in the
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  postmaster's office. 2O4B They're running around.
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  It's Monday. OK, I get it.
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  I'll just, I'll, I'll notate it on the 4240.
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  I'll say something when I get back.
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  I'll just get this shit done. Said something to the 2.
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  O4 BI can what I would say I was off Thursday and Friday this
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  week because the car not starting.
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  So like I'm off Thursday for FMLA and I called out Friday
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  because of the car on Saturday. When I came back, underneath all
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  the piles of letters was the window with the 1571 that I had
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  from blocked boxes on Wednesday. So I know they didn't case or
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  carry any of the raw mail Thursday or Friday.
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  OK. They just kind of piled
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  everything on top. Mm hmm.
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  So I get back yesterday, I had a full tub of mail that I brought
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  back. Was not happy about it.
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  My sub who was running the other out that he used to be a primary
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  on on Monday got back just before I did.
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  So as he's walking in the bill, as he's walking across back of
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  the dock to go back into the building, I pull out the tub of
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  mail and I look at him and I said, you know, I say pay
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  attention to forwards for a reason.
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  Pay attention to the forwards. Yeah, that whole tub of mail for
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  the most part was all forwards that was delivered, including
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  two packages. And the majority of it was
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  forwards from last month, 45 minutes to clean everything up,
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  including all the Parge labels, because nothing was done.
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  The case hadn't been notated with forwards.
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  In fact, half the holds hadn't even been marked properly in the
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  case. Oh yeah, yeah, I played a lot of
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  clean up today. I was paying attention to the
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  boxes that were on holds and collected a few of those.
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  And yeah, it's was more than I thought I was going to walk
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  into. But yeah, I took it up with the
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  sub and then the supervisor was floating around when I got back
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  this afternoon because it was Tuesday.
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  So I was actually back by what was that, 230, something like
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  that, 2:45, I don't remember. Anyways, so I said, I said I
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  already talked to him, so don't worry about that.
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  I addressed it with him I said but this is ridiculous.
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  But I brought up the whole 6 inches of mail and I got well
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  I'll have to see what that was and I either way I want to get
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  paid for it because I was not expecting to walk into 6 inches
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  of freaking DPS at my case. I can handle some small piles of
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  mail because I don't know what's going on.
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  These guys are forwarded and this is a different name.
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  I can handle that stuff. But if supposedly the 204 B was
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  telling me it was DPS that was miss sorted into other routes
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  DPS and I was like well somebody could have at least left a post
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  it note or something there telling me what this mess was.
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  But I'm not happy about it and I want paid for it.
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  So hopefully tomorrow I'll figure out what she's going to
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  do. Either do the piece count
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  calculation on the six inches or pay me the straight 8127 time
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  for doing it. And if you're not going to do
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  either, well then I'm going to grieve it because I just told BS
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  because I was gone for two freaking weeks and then I had.
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  Words to my clerk. This morning, because again,
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  same 4 pieces of mail that goes to a city route that I threw
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  back into the throwback case that she had in the hot case for
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  me yesterday was again in the hot case today.
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  So I walked over to her and I said, what route is this
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  business on? She's like, you're a route.
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  I said no, because number one, that business is across the
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  street from the post office. The CBU for that business is
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  literally at the tail end of the drive to come in the back drive
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  of the post office. That obviously is city 5, not
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  row route 3. Well, I, you know, I, I made
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  mistakes. I, you know, it, it, I can't say
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  it won't happen again. I said pay better attention and
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  I walked away. I've just, I, I've been on a
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  tiff. I, I'm, I'm over it.
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  I am so over it. I am over people that don't pay
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  attention to their jobs. Something as simple as just
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  because the name of the business is the Township that I mainly
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  deliver in does not necessarily mean that that's my business.
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  That city, obviously, you even know where that business is
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  located. OK, It's right there.
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  You pass it every day when you pull into the driveway.
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  But yeah, so, yeah, it's been interesting.
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  Couple days back for sure. But Italy was awesome, was it
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  not? When?
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  Yeah, it was I, the top of my foot killed for days.
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  And right when it started feeling better, you know, I went
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  to work on Monday. One of the Subs come up to me.
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  She's she's super sweet young girl.
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  She's like I wear. I used your truck on Sunday and
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  I left my cart in there. Can you bring it back in when
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  you get back? So I told her I'd bring it back
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  in after I loaded and I loaded my truck up, brought that like
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  wheelie cart back in and I went to set it at the case where she
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  was working and it dropped right on top of my foot.
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  That hurt. Oh my God, it hurts.
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  It's it's all right though. It's getting better again.
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  Trucks. Want to talk about trucks now?
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  Do we want to talk about the trucks or we'd want to address
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  the social media rumor meal real?
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  Quick. Yeah, we could do the the social
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  media rumor meal really, really quick.
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  Yeah, go for that one meow, because this is.
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  OK. We were laughing about this
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  earlier, like, oh, we got to mention it.
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  I'm not sure I know what you guys are talking about.
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  No, probably not so. You will, you will so.
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  In a couple of the of the Facebook groups, there's people
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  saying that there is RXV or asking questions about it or I
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  heard. Has anyone heard of the new RXV
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  they're coming out with and it's just kind of taken wildfire and
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  created uncertainty? And RXV or RX-5 just refers to
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  which RX evaluation we are currently in.
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  We have had five different RX evaluations since it's taken
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  place. What was the first one was in
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  April, May of 2023. And then we had another one that
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  was RX1 and then RX-2 was October of that year.
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  RX3 was like April of 2024 RX 4. Oh no yeah.
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  Wait, was that am I correct? I think it was not.
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  It was. The.
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  Fall of 2022, it was supposed to start in the spring and then it
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  got delayed, put on hold. And pushed back.
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  So anyways, regardless, yeah, so we're on the it's if you ever
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  hear like RX and then a number, it's just referring to which RX
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  evaluation we are in. It doesn't mean that they've
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  come out with some blanket new system that you need to learn.
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  The other part of that rumor though, is just make sure that
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  you're doing your scans when you're supposed to be doing them
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  and make sure you're doing your mapping and that's all you can
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  do. Like that's, that's what RX is
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  designed to do. Just do the right thing and you
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  got nothing to worry about there.
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  Hopefully so. So if you see people online
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  spreading this rumor about it until the post, I hear it from
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  the post office or I hear it from the union.
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  Don't there's people who've been Googling like AI Google
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  summaries about RXV. It's not some V for vendetta, RX
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  Vendetta or RX Vengeance. I, I don't know.
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  It's, it's crazy. Nothing's changing there.
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  Just do the right thing, Do your scans, deliver how you normally
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  deliver and and you should be good.
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  So that's that. Yeah, there's.
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  I know. I saw it too.
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  And I'm like, Oh my word. Yeah.
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  And somebody said the benchmarking.
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  Yeah, the, the benchmarking. And granted, yes, they, they
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  shouldn't be benchmarking, but I, I mean, there's 2 ends of the
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  spectrum of this too. You know, there's going to be
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  the outliers of, you know, people who are just sitting
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  there and entering like 20 WSS. Flat.
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  In one day. That's insane.
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  Like I don't think I've ever seen anybody deliver 20 full
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  coverages in one day. You know, so there's things like
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  that and then there's other people, you know who, you know,
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  you might have like, let's say you had a carrier pick up,
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  right? And you picked up a lot 1 day
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  like Christmas is coming and you know, one of the days maybe you
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  picked up 200 parcels and you never normally do that.
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  And it might show up on a report.
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  And if management asks you about it, just be like, look, I had
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  that many parcels. Like you can see it like you'll
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  see me at that business, you'll see my bread crumbs there.
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  Like so if, if you're doing the right thing, you shouldn't have
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  anything to worry about is the, is the bottom line with it.
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  And if management, you know, wants to harass you or you know,
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  if there's, then if there's issues along those lines, 'cause
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  you are doing the right thing and management's harassing you
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  over it, then you need to call your steward.
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  Absolutely. And maybe and maybe you need to
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  file agreements. Over it, that fire report or
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  benchmarking report as some people will call it, is just in
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  the last 13 weeks this one particular item is unusually
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  high compared to your average time that you've done that.
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  It doesn't mean it's wrong, it's just that it shows up as being
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  excessively high compared to what you've been doing.
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  Yeah, which I mean, given the time of the year it is, you know
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  what, that may very well be the case because, you know, you may
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  not have as many going through and then all of a sudden, BAM,
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  you get slammed one day with package pickups and and, you
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  know, authorized dismounts or whatever that you normally don't
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  have. And I think I mean, with all my
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  Cbus, I mean, I only have 13 key turns and I actually only have
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  two locations I actually have to dismount for.
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  So for me to have an actual authorized dismount, even with
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  all my hardships, it's rare. I can count on one hand how many
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  times I've had to use the authorized dismount button on
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  for my route, you know it. And that's not since Rex has
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  started. So, yeah, I mean, a lot of that
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  stuff is going to say something that's out of the abnormal, you
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  know, and. Yeah, I mean like last last
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  Tuesday, I mean I had I had 64 that I entered, which because I
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  had 4500 pieces of DPS and I had I had more ballots in there.
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  It was thick DPS cause of the ballots I'm carrying like with
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  both my hands trying to carry all this mail to these CB us.
• 24:11
  And so I already knew I was like that's going to show up.
• 24:14
  But it is what it is. Like you could see my bread
• 24:16
  crumbs. They're moving in circles from
• 24:20
  the truck to the CBU like it's it's going to be what it'll be.
• 24:25
  Yep, exactly. So you know, don't stress over
• 24:29
  it. Rex 5 is the current evaluation.
• 24:32
  We're in the 5th Rex evaluation. It's no version 5.
• 24:36
  It's nothing anybody needs to pull their hair out about.
• 24:41
  RX Terminators. I don't make like a geek for
• 24:51
  vendetta like RX-5. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:55
  Coming to theater soon, Yeah. So I, this is a little segment
• 25:02
  that we're about to get into that I know we have wanted to
• 25:06
  do. We've talked about it in the
• 25:08
  past and that's just talking about the different vehicles
• 25:10
  that we use on our rural routes. And now that my my dear friend
• 25:15
  Lynette is available this evening, she drives an Ng DV so
• 25:20
  she can talk about that experience since she's been
• 25:22
  driving one for about 3 months now and I know I have LLV and
• 25:28
  lots of POV experience. Meow, you have a mattress?
• 25:33
  Yes, I have a mattress and I used to have APOV route so and
• 25:37
  I've delivered in my car, my non right hand drive car I've.
• 25:40
  Been there, done yet too, trust me.
• 25:42
  Yeah. And yeah.
• 25:44
  I I've done both LLB and FFB. Yeah.
• 25:48
  And I know Lynette's done LLB as well as Mattress and NGDV so she
• 25:54
  can kind of compare the three I did.
• 25:57
  You drive POV in the past though too when you. 1st I did first
• 26:01
  five hours. She's got the whole spectrum.
• 26:02
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Well, not FSB. Yeah, but yeah, you've.
• 26:08
  Never used. Four out of the five, so.
• 26:11
  Yeah, I don't like. The beast feel lucky.
• 26:15
  You don't like that? You have to pull down.
• 26:19
  No, no, they I love. My mattress though.
• 26:23
  They have the power and the torque, but there's the design
• 26:27
  is not organamic for a carrier. Yeah, same cause with the LLB
• 26:33
  where you have the space right next to you that you can put a
• 26:36
  tray or something with your flats with birds.
• 26:39
  Yeah, it's got the hump with E brake right there, which means
• 26:43
  all that space underneath the mail tray is pretty much dead.
• 26:46
  Yeah, I see. When they took my truck down to
• 26:50
  VMF for new engine which I still haven't gotten back yet and that
• 26:55
  was in June when that happened. So they eventually.
• 26:59
  I was playing the LLV roulette at the time and when VMF finally
• 27:06
  found a vehicle to bring up they brought an FFV and even my
• 27:10
  postmaster looked at it and went Nope that's going to go on the
• 27:13
  OX route for now because there is no way her route is going to
• 27:16
  fit in an FFV so it'll it'll. Fit because it has a little bit
• 27:23
  more square footage than an LLB. Yeah.
• 27:27
  It's just not practical to work out of unless you specifically
• 27:31
  are pulling down for that vehicle.
• 27:33
  Yeah, and working out of an LLB for so many years?
• 27:37
  Yep, it is hard to train yourself to switch.
• 27:41
  Yep, so I drove POV when I first started.
• 27:45
  I went through several of them as an RCA.
• 27:49
  It it happens 'cause I personally drove beaters.
• 27:52
  My very first POV was a 2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2 door and
• 27:58
  actually it worked out quite well for me.
• 28:00
  This was pre Amazon day so it was a lot of mail, not a lot of
• 28:04
  packages and it worked out. It was my ex's vehicle.
• 28:09
  So when it took a crap and was no longer roadworthy I ended up
• 28:15
  with a 99 Chevy Blazer 4 door which quite similar for setup
• 28:21
  wise for me. And I never had pedals in a car.
• 28:26
  I always drove from the passenger seat straddled.
• 28:29
  I had that one for a little bit and then thing it like I said I
• 28:33
  drove junkers. Honestly the best POV I ever had
• 28:37
  was I got a 93 Oldsmobile Cutlass Sierra.
• 28:43
  It was given to me. It was my great aunts and that
• 28:46
  one lasted me almost five years and it was actually my daily
• 28:50
  driver as well. When I transferred offices.
• 28:53
  The only reason I gave it up was because the timing went on it
• 28:56
  and it what to me wasn't worth dumping that extra money.
• 28:59
  I'd put fuel pump in it. I've done I did a lot of work to
• 29:02
  that car honestly, and that was probably my best POV that I had.
• 29:06
  The bench seat was perfect. I didn't have to sit in the
• 29:10
  middle. I replaced that one with AO3
• 29:14
  Buick LeSabre, so a little bit wider, had to sit closer to the
• 29:18
  middle. And I loved my bench seats and
• 29:22
  it was bench. Seats worked the best, and they
• 29:25
  do. And again it was a $1200 beater,
• 29:28
  I had put $1200 into it and then I got a bad rod knock and ended
• 29:33
  up on the OX route which had an LLVI.
• 29:36
  Kept my POV around until I went full time on my LLV route.
• 29:41
  So I've been driving an LLV full time for the last three years
• 29:46
  and I don't mind the LLV in general for thing stuff.
• 29:52
  Again, I have a route that most days it's convenient.
• 29:55
  I can pack that sucker to the brim and I do at times,
• 30:00
  sometimes maybe over pack it but it works for.
• 30:04
  As all the doors close. Yep, long as the doors close, I
• 30:07
  can see out my mirrors. Nothing's going to become flying
• 30:10
  through whatever. You know it it works for I does.
• 30:14
  My biggest issues are again, the heat and obviously no ACI mean
• 30:20
  we deal with it. We know what we got to do when
• 30:22
  it comes to that. I've been through installing
• 30:26
  pedals when when Ruby had her short stint as an RCA and we had
• 30:30
  to get pedals put in. By the way, if anybody needs
• 30:33
  some pedal pros pedals please reach out to me.
• 30:35
  I have a set that was only used six times before they were taken
• 30:38
  back out. But on that note, I I get with
• 30:43
  why you know the LOV practical for most people.
• 30:47
  I personally don't have a huge issue with it.
• 30:49
  I miss my truck because now I'm using Route 2's truck.
• 30:53
  Route 2 has the OX signed truck and the OX route has the FFV
• 30:58
  that they brought up. When mine's going to come back,
• 31:00
  If it comes back, I don't know. But anyways.
• 31:02
  So yes, LOV's rear wheel drive. That's what biggest thing.
• 31:05
  It sucks in the winter. I know in Michigan we cannot run
• 31:08
  chains. My old postmaster at my first
• 31:11
  office took, you know, carrier safety first and foremost.
• 31:16
  So he had all the LL VS there was studded tires.
• 31:20
  He was one of those that do first.
• 31:22
  As for forgiveness later to, you know, went to bat for us when it
• 31:26
  came to district over safety, that was great.
• 31:29
  If they can do that, Michigan, we can't run chains.
• 31:32
  Rear wheel drive, boom, sorry about that.
• 31:36
  It actually hit my mic while I was talking, but I talked with
• 31:40
  my hands and so my microphone got in the way.
• 31:42
  Sorry, but it's like crash. Oops.
• 31:45
  And my. Even when I'm sitting here by
• 31:47
  myself, I still talk with my hands.
• 31:50
  So anyways, where I used to live was the snow belt.
• 31:54
  I mean, it was nothing to get 18 inches of snow overnight.
• 31:56
  If we had lake effect come in where I'm at now, a little bit
• 32:02
  South and further E about two hours right along Lake Huron.
• 32:07
  We don't get the snow that I had gotten there, but we get a lot
• 32:11
  more ice and LLV stuck on ice. I've known carriers that
• 32:15
  overweight them in the winter and carriers that underweight
• 32:18
  them in the winter. I think I found my way that just
• 32:21
  weights it just right for now, but you know, it's and that's
• 32:25
  and that's nice thing about having a government vehicle.
• 32:27
  If it breaks down, the post office has to take care of that.
• 32:30
  Unlike APOV, if you break down and you cannot get back on your
• 32:34
  route within a reasonable time and get it fixed, as in, you
• 32:36
  know, plug in a tire, changing a tire, something minor.
• 32:40
  I mean, I've done roadside repairs.
• 32:41
  I've been underneath that old Explorer sport with male straps
• 32:47
  re hanging a muffler in the pouring rain because it was
• 32:51
  dragging on the ground. We we do what we got.
• 32:53
  Yes. We've all done car repairs on
• 32:58
  the side of a road and APOV when you're APOV driver.
• 33:01
  I mean my one POV in my route he has or he's got a 2017 right
• 33:07
  hand drive Jeep it you know, he bought it used and he's been
• 33:10
  running it nearly six days a week every week for the last
• 33:14
  three years since he took that route over.
• 33:17
  So that you know there's days where you know what it breaks it
• 33:21
  on the route. He can't get it get it back on
• 33:23
  going. Well, now management's on him
• 33:25
  and he's got to use an annual day because he's got to get his
• 33:28
  car fixed. Yep, down falls of POV's.
• 33:32
  Now they're on him because of his second trips and coming out
• 33:34
  and checking his loading. He's like no, I am not going to
• 33:37
  box the sucker in #1 LLV's have all those mirrors.
• 33:42
  So you when the mirrors are positioned properly, you can see
• 33:46
  just about all around that vehicle.
• 33:48
  Yes, it does have blind spots. I'm well aware of it.
• 33:51
  Trust me. Short person side view mirrors.
• 33:53
  Sometimes I don't see that traffic coming right away when
• 33:56
  I'm waiting to turn, but you know, he's like, no, I'm not
• 34:01
  going to stack it up to the ceiling because #1 when I have
• 34:04
  to hit the brakes, that sucker's going to come flying and hit me
• 34:06
  in the back of the head. And then you can't see out your
• 34:09
  windows with your mirrors. I, I remember loading my car at
• 34:13
  my old office and there's Academy at that office.
• 34:16
  And the Academy instructor had the, had the new Rcas out there
• 34:20
  while we were loading. And he looks at my car as I'm
• 34:23
  loading. He looks at this group of Rcas
• 34:25
  and he said that is not how you load.
• 34:29
  I had stuff crammed up in the back window.
• 34:32
  I mean, it was I, I was the poster child on how not to load
• 34:36
  a vehicle that day, which you know, is fine.
• 34:39
  But you know, LO VS can be practical.
• 34:42
  Some people hate them, some people love them.
• 34:44
  That's like with any vehicle. That is my experience primarily
• 34:48
  POV and now and LOV, again, the perks, you know, I can usually
• 34:52
  fit most of the stuff in the LOV.
• 34:54
  Downfalls are obviously heat in the winter and rear wheel drive
• 34:58
  in the winter sucks, especially in icy conditions.
• 35:01
  We're not allowed chains in my area in Michigan, so no chains
• 35:06
  for any of that. We're, you know, sandbags and if
• 35:09
  I have to break them open so I can get some traction to get out
• 35:12
  of somebody's driveway, been there, done that.
• 35:13
  It sucks at times. So yes.
• 35:17
  Yes it does. Yep.
• 35:19
  We have one mattress. In there.
• 35:22
  We have one mattress in our fleet and that got assigned to
• 35:25
  the city route that has all The Walking.
• 35:28
  I I've been in a LOV with that they put chains on once and that
• 35:33
  was one times too many. Oh.
• 35:35
  I don't know how many times I've ridden LO VS with chains.
• 35:39
  I can. I can preach, you won't.
• 35:41
  Let us have them either. They won't let us have them
• 35:43
  anymore because they were, because you can only go like 15
• 35:48
  to 20 miles an hour and people were going 30 and then they'd
• 35:52
  bust off and they, well, you can, but they would bust off and
• 35:56
  then they would wrap around the axle in it.
• 35:58
  It's the worst sound in the world and you just hit like it's
• 36:04
  just all. Right Josh?
• 36:07
  So what is your pros and cons between an LLV and an FFV?
• 36:12
  OK. As I mentioned the FFV is does
• 36:17
  have slightly more square footage to it, however they are
• 36:23
  narrower and longer in the back for the cargo area.
• 36:29
  The scent with the LLV is open in right next to the seat the
• 36:36
  driver's seat. So you could potentially get up
• 36:38
  and walk to the back or put a tray with your small or your
• 36:43
  smalls right next to your seat on the ground.
• 36:47
  You also have the slot depending on what what brackets they use
• 36:54
  to put the mail tray in. You can put one to three hubs or
• 37:01
  trays with the FFB that space right next to you where with the
• 37:05
  LLV it has the emergency brake. The the handbrake is up next to
• 37:10
  the steering column and you pull it or push it back to release
• 37:14
  it. That is with the FFE, it's a
• 37:17
  hump with the E brake and right in the middle there.
• 37:20
  So you lose that space there in the from under the mail tray.
• 37:26
  It is been completely under there.
• 37:28
  So you could stuff stuff under but you can't reach it from the
• 37:31
  sea. So it works for me at my condos,
• 37:35
  which I work from the left side of the vehicle anyway, and then
• 37:38
  I pull the parcels up and organize them to drive around
• 37:42
  the neighborhood, deliver them to the door because I don't have
• 37:44
  parcel lockers there. But other than that, that's all
• 37:47
  wasted space where the LLB, the front and the back are level,
• 37:54
  The cargo area in the FFB is dropped down some.
• 37:59
  I know some people that I used to work with that had FFBS.
• 38:03
  We take three to six empty tubs and turn them upside down and
• 38:08
  push all the way, you know, three across and push them all
• 38:11
  the way to the front. That would put it about the male
• 38:15
  tray and the, the side of the, the ledge in the back there.
• 38:21
  And that way you can stack across.
• 38:24
  And that way if you have like a male tray, like if you're flat
• 38:27
  or spurs, it doesn't slide underneath the male tray into
• 38:32
  that waste of space that you can't get to.
• 38:34
  And then you'd have to get out and walk around and pick it back
• 38:36
  up and put them back in order. The FF BS have a lot more power
• 38:42
  and torque to them. They will, they'll go.
• 38:46
  They'll get me on the straightaway.
• 38:47
  But all four wheels are in line where the LLB, the front wheels
• 38:52
  are about 6 inches on each side in, so you have a tighter
• 38:57
  turning radius. So I'll catch them on, you know,
• 39:00
  I'll catch a time up in the quarterback and on U-turn.
• 39:03
  And I did have a POB ish sort of when I was in RCA just in case I
• 39:08
  had to give auxiliary assistance on a route.
• 39:11
  I had a Pontiac Aztec, which you are straddling, but that center
• 39:15
  console is flat is a actually pulls out as a cool.
• 39:20
  So it's flat and level with the seats, you know, with the 2
• 39:24
  front seats. He just had to put a little a
• 39:28
  thin like pillow or cushion on it, otherwise you were sore
• 39:35
  down, you know, in your backside for a while until all those
• 39:39
  muscles started to finally relax again.
• 39:43
  Meow. Just doing that one the hard
• 39:46
  way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:48
  I have. Too.
• 39:49
  I I I have straddled a 2002 Malibu.
• 39:56
  Thank God that one had. Sunroof in the summertime it was
• 40:05
  it was a backup and the back seats laid down.
• 40:07
  So I I made it work when I had to.
• 40:09
  And then my my 2018 Jeep Compass that I had that was never fun.
• 40:14
  One butt cheek and a cup holder and the other one on the seat.
• 40:17
  Yet I don't recommend straddling those if you don't have to.
• 40:22
  I I, I have a buddy to remove the center console and had and
• 40:28
  built a small, you know, out of one by fours, a little just, you
• 40:34
  know, together a little slap, you know, to fit in the space
• 40:38
  there. So it was level with the seats.
• 40:40
  And then he just put a cushion across.
• 40:44
  He lost his console, but that wasn't, you know, he's like my
• 40:49
  rear. Comfort is much more important
• 40:52
  than having somewhere to put useless papers that I'm going to
• 40:56
  look at. Meow what is your pros and cons
• 40:59
  on a metric? Well, let me, I'm going to go.
• 41:06
  I'm going to go back to POV too. Sure.
• 41:08
  Go ahead. Because I I still do.
• 41:10
  I miss my POV, but I don't miss, I don't miss the maintenance and
• 41:17
  the money I sunk into it. So when I first started my
• 41:22
  office was I think we had 15 POV routes between the two stations.
• 41:29
  And there was one guy he had started like in the 80s and he
• 41:33
  had three POV's that he would interchange parts with to like
• 41:38
  keep 1 running because his route went 92 miles a day.
• 41:44
  And then like to the point where he and I, I do cut like I
• 41:48
  learned a lot from him because of these things.
• 41:50
  But he had like a 1993 Cherokee or 19.
• 41:56
  It was 1990 in the early 90s Cherokee.
• 41:59
  And the fuel pump is like in the back.
• 42:03
  And so instead of him having to like drop it down from the back,
• 42:07
  he cut a hole in his vehicle so that each time it would go out,
• 42:12
  he could just replace it and not have to spend all that labor to,
• 42:18
  like, do it because he just worked on it himself.
• 42:21
  But when I first got the job, they told me I wasn't going to
• 42:24
  be on those routes as much. But that was a lie.
• 42:28
  And so I had a, and I still have it, but it's dead now.
• 42:35
  A 2012 Chevy Cruze with a center console and I the second route I
• 42:43
  ever had to do was POV route curb, curbside, not key boxes.
• 42:49
  And I had this one lady who Long story short, she's she's
• 42:54
  transferred to Georgia now and I'll never ever forget her.
• 42:57
  She showed me how to straddle the console and like to put
• 43:01
  pillows and like where you should put like a tray for
• 43:04
  outgoing mail and like your soup stuff that you can't deliver and
• 43:09
  like where to position your trays.
• 43:11
  And one of the good things too that I was shown is like some
• 43:16
  people, if you're doing it in APOV and it's not right hand
• 43:19
  drive, they'll, they'll use like the half trays, those little
• 43:22
  smaller ones and then you can stack those up.
• 43:24
  So it's a little easier for you to straddle.
• 43:26
  And and then my office ended up investing in getting us the big
• 43:33
  grabbers. So I had in my car, I had like
• 43:38
  this grabber that I like because that I bought from like
• 43:41
  Walgreens. And then my manager ended up
• 43:44
  getting me a different one, but that I like rubber banded.
• 43:48
  And I don't know, you make things work with what you got.
• 43:51
  And then I eventually another one of my Co workers, she had a,
• 43:58
  a 1993 Jeep Cherokee and I would borrow it from her and she ended
• 44:04
  up just selling it to me. And so I went regular on apov
• 44:09
  route and nobody else wanted it, but I loved it.
• 44:13
  And I would go like 6 it was like 70 miles I think, then 65
• 44:18
  to 70 miles. And what I, what I, what I
• 44:23
  struck like advice for this. You don't, you take her leave
• 44:26
  it. I know that we get paid EMA, but
• 44:29
  EMA shouldn't be considered a part of your salary.
• 44:33
  And So what I would do was when I would get my paycheck, I had
• 44:38
  two checking accounts and I would take the EMA portion of my
• 44:43
  check and I would just immediately transfer it over to
• 44:47
  a checking account. And I would use that card for
• 44:51
  that checking account, kind of like a gas card for my route.
• 44:55
  And then whatever I had left at the end, like before the next
• 44:59
  paycheck, I would move to my savings account.
• 45:02
  And then that was the money that I used to maintain the vehicle
• 45:06
  or get tires or get the brakes changed.
• 45:09
  Because when you're going 70 miles a day, six days a week,
• 45:13
  5-6 days a week, you know you're going to burn them out.
• 45:17
  So I miss it. And I almost, I actually almost
• 45:22
  bought a right hand Dr. Hearse. I had put money down, but
• 45:26
  eventually like I got pregnant and I kept breaking down on my
• 45:31
  route. And so I, I was like, am I, I
• 45:38
  can't go out? I can't go into labor like 40
• 45:42
  minutes from the. Hospital.
• 45:45
  And just the anxiety of that, you know, so I eventually bit
• 45:50
  off and I've been off onto an LOV route and the LO VS my
• 45:59
  primary guy that I trained with, he my first training day, I'm
• 46:05
  sitting in the jump seat in the back.
• 46:07
  He has the brake pedal falls off.
• 46:13
  I watched him just take it and go, oh, don't look at this.
• 46:18
  And but he takes it and he puts it back on and he takes like a,
• 46:23
  a, a paper clip and some rubber bands and like push it puts it
• 46:27
  back on to like hold for the day.
• 46:30
  And then he's like, oh, I'll have to write it up when I get
• 46:32
  back. And that's, that's my real
• 46:38
  initial view of an LOV. When I did my LOV training, I
• 46:45
  did it in the snow. So at least I got that over with
• 46:49
  immediately. But even if you're on a hill
• 46:54
  like and you're on like a little chunk of ice, you're going to
• 46:57
  slide even with that E brake. So just make sure that you're
• 47:02
  testing that E brake. But I would also, I know, like I
• 47:06
  feel like I, I'm a visual person and like we know how to Tetris
• 47:11
  how we place our vehicles, especially when you have so many
• 47:14
  parcels. And like a lot of our job is
• 47:18
  just putting puzzle pieces back together, but they're different
• 47:22
  puzzle pieces, if that makes sense.
• 47:24
  And I used to use that side wheel well door or I call it
• 47:30
  like the dead zone. And I would put like my carrier
• 47:33
  pickups over there so I wouldn't have to look at them or they
• 47:35
  wouldn't like roll around or if like I put the stuff that I was
• 47:40
  going to take out like first over there.
• 47:44
  But that's just there's that. But then I, I bet do another
• 47:49
  route and they eventually gave it Mercedes mattress.
• 47:53
  Now there's I've seen three different kinds of mattresses.
• 47:59
  The first initial round, those ones weren't great, but they're
• 48:03
  OK. But the, I think mine's like
• 48:07
  either the second or the third round.
• 48:09
  And what's cool about them? I mean, they have the radio and
• 48:15
  the speakers and everything that are in there.
• 48:18
  But my absolute favorite thing about it is that I can open all
• 48:24
  the doors on each side of the vehicle and load to like each
• 48:30
  section of my route. Personally, I think that they
• 48:34
  work best on like your half curbside, half key box routes so
• 48:40
  that you at least can like you can load your curbside up front
• 48:45
  and then you can put like in the side door your key boxes.
• 48:48
  Or if you have like large stops, you can put them in the back,
• 48:51
  which is what I do. I have like the trays that fold
• 48:55
  up and down. I know a lot of people don't
• 48:58
  like they, they're worried about them in the snow, which I mean,
• 49:03
  there's sometimes where, yeah, like it's rough.
• 49:06
  But there is ways on mine that you can like downshift it into
• 49:11
  another gear and put it like in a manual mode and get yourself
• 49:16
  out of like those stupid ice situations.
• 49:22
  One thing that my old regular taught me when I was in an LOV,
• 49:27
  he was like if you ever get stuck, use like if you have the
• 49:31
  floor mats that are there, put that under your tires and
• 49:36
  that'll help at least get you past that ice chunk.
• 49:39
  Hope hopefully. But if so in my mattress I have
• 49:46
  like a pair of like old chains and I won't they don't fit the
• 49:51
  tires obviously, but and I wouldn't put them on.
• 49:54
  But if I ever get stuck, I usually will blow them in there
• 49:58
  so that I can just lay them down and then get out.
• 50:00
  You know, what's the other thing?
• 50:03
  I I'm to the point now to where the shifter is in the by the
• 50:10
  steering wheel. So you're able to like I, I
• 50:14
  don't know why I like that a little bit more cons of it.
• 50:20
  I don't like that it doesn't have enough stickers on it so
• 50:23
  that people know it's a mail truck.
• 50:25
  But I've seen some people have put on different ones and then
• 50:31
  yeah, the shifter, yeah. Where the the blinker stick.
• 50:33
  Yeah, it's I like that you can change it right there and then
• 50:37
  you can move it up and down for that.
• 50:39
  I enjoy having the AC. I'm like to the point now where
• 50:43
  like I, I'll even just have the fan on like that fan running.
• 50:49
  I also enjoy that you in the front, you you can only carry
• 50:53
  three trays up there, but it, it like enforces that safety to you
• 50:58
  because if you load it too much, they're all going to fly over on
• 51:02
  you. Like, which is a little
• 51:04
  different than the LOV because you could, you're only supposed
• 51:07
  to load 3. But I know people like load
• 51:10
  them, load them trying to think of what else with them.
• 51:14
  Yeah, and even the heater works really well.
• 51:18
  Mine has like 65,000 miles on it now, and I think when I got it,
• 51:24
  it had like 200 miles. So most of those miles have been
• 51:28
  mine. A lot of people in my office and
• 51:32
  just even in general think I'm crazy because I actually love my
• 51:36
  mattress. They get kind of banged up.
• 51:40
  So that's a little disappointing because I think people still are
• 51:44
  in that mindset of like the LOVS, like indestructible, you
• 51:48
  know, but it's like, let's try and take care of this so that it
• 51:52
  lasts a little longer, you know, and isn't all janky trying to
• 51:59
  think of what else with it. That's a weird.
• 52:02
  The technical term. Yes, yeah, it is a technical
• 52:05
  term. I just wanted to make sure.
• 52:08
  Or ghetto fabulous too. That's also another, you know.
• 52:13
  Yeah, but there's some that I know that they're all Denton in
• 52:16
  the side already. And I'm like, come on, guys.
• 52:18
  Like let's just take care of This is why we can't have nice
• 52:21
  things. They're expensive to fix too.
• 52:26
  Like there's I I was told like by one of the VMF guys, like the
• 52:32
  the knobs for the air conditioner and the heater.
• 52:36
  One of those broke off like a tray hit it or something.
• 52:39
  And that knob cost like $500 to fix.
• 52:43
  And so they ended up getting us like these, these like cage
• 52:46
  things that go over them. So it protects them a little bit
• 52:49
  more. Trying to think of what else?
• 52:53
  Oh, the other thing I don't like is that, that I, I'm kind of
• 52:58
  excited to hear like Lynette's take on the new vehicles is that
• 53:02
  the, the door doesn't just slide flush with the vehicle.
• 53:07
  So that's like, and I'm going to point this out, which is a
• 53:12
  really weird thing because I've had to explain this to managers
• 53:15
  before. When I mapped my route, there is
• 53:18
  some of my curbside boxes that I had to move my park point
• 53:26
  further up and I had A and the to dismount to go to their front
• 53:31
  door because I can't just open the door and walk out because
• 53:36
  the the door will hit the mailbox.
• 53:39
  So if, if you're in a mattress or if you're a route that just
• 53:44
  got a mattress, I would you're supposed to review your mapping
• 53:48
  every month. So just kind of keep that in
• 53:50
  mind. Like if that mailbox, like
• 53:52
  normally you could just open the door and like what run out
• 53:56
  versus like pulling up a little bit.
• 53:57
  But so that's kind of crappy. I have, there's one part of my
• 54:04
  route that there's no, there's nothing to like brace the wind.
• 54:10
  And so my door has like blown open.
• 54:13
  And so it's kind of, it's also janky now a little bit because
• 54:18
  of the wind blowing. It opened repeatedly.
• 54:22
  So I think they're gonna the doors of the Yeah.
• 54:26
  I had I. How are the mattresses when it's
• 54:30
  raining? Like downpouring.
• 54:33
  I think. It's raining in a ton.
• 54:36
  Not really because it's kind of angled.
• 54:39
  Yeah, I know that there's some people who have bought like that
• 54:42
  protector, like the LOV, some of the Lovs have them too, but I
• 54:48
  don't think so because the the window for them is so much
• 54:52
  smaller than even like the the LLV window.
• 54:56
  So it, it holds its heat pretty well.
• 54:59
  Yeah. I was just asking.
• 55:01
  I remember one day I was, oh, go ahead.
• 55:04
  No, you're all good. You're asking because why?
• 55:07
  Because I was going to have to use a mattress one day and it,
• 55:10
  it was downpouring the day before and I got in the mattress
• 55:14
  to move it to where I needed to load and the whole seat was
• 55:18
  drenched. It was just like a month ago.
• 55:21
  Yeah. And I'm like, Oh my God, yeah.
• 55:25
  Yeah, the, the thing I also like, I feel like they retain
• 55:29
  their heat more too than the LO VS because I, I remember like
• 55:35
  being, I'll never forget this. And this is like why I pack the
• 55:39
  way that I do sometimes when it's really cold outside.
• 55:42
  But it was like -5° out and I was out delivering in a LOV and
• 55:48
  I had to shut that, that back door and I took like a bunch of
• 55:52
  trays and turn them upside down to like insulate myself with the
• 55:55
  heat up front. And even like, though the, the
• 55:59
  mattress has like that cage. I mean, I've moved my trays one
• 56:03
  time when it was like colder, but like the heater kept up with
• 56:07
  it. And even like what I'll do is
• 56:09
  I'll move the, the vent that's near the window, like aim it
• 56:12
  towards my arm so that it's like drying my arm kind of if it's
• 56:16
  raining too bad. But I've even, I've, I've had
• 56:20
  hail before too. Or like the my, me and my one Co
• 56:25
  worker, we call them the thick raindrops where it's not hail,
• 56:28
  but it's like a big like coming at you.
• 56:32
  And Yep, it was, it was fine. It wasn't too bad.
• 56:37
  So I I I seriously, I love my mattress.
• 56:40
  So all. Right, All right, now I'm a, I'm
• 56:45
  about to go into an SDS in DC. It was supposed to be October
• 56:50
  18th. They pushed us back to November
• 56:52
  15th. Hopefully, maybe, possibly, it
• 56:56
  won't happen until after New Year's, but at some point after
• 56:59
  New Year's, we're supposed to get these new NDDBS to tell me
• 57:03
  everything I'm going to like and not like, Please and thank you.
• 57:08
  I Some people really don't like them.
• 57:10
  I I like them. Everyone's first thought is
• 57:13
  they're huge and they're so ugly, but they're so nice.
• 57:19
  They feel so much safer than the LOV.
• 57:21
  You know what? I don't care what it looks like
• 57:24
  as long as it gets the job done, you know?
• 57:27
  Yeah, and there there's so much room.
• 57:30
  The sea is great. The two the double tray like I I
• 57:36
  put 2 trays of flats, parcels and then two trays of DPS up
• 57:42
  front with me. The tray underneath I put 2 DPS
• 57:46
  trays, one for stuff that out of my DPS and stuff to go back to
• 57:51
  the office and then one for my outgoing mail.
• 57:56
  Can you easily get to that bottom mail tray or?
• 58:00
  Yeah, that one moves forward and back too.
• 58:03
  They both move forward and back, so you could have one closer or
• 58:08
  you know, it's, it's nice. It's there's so much stuff on
• 58:12
  them. There's six trays in the back or
• 58:17
  and they fold up and down. I don't, I only use the three I
• 58:21
  use. I use the three lower ones.
• 58:25
  The ones that are up higher are just too high for me to reach
• 58:28
  and I haven't had to use them because there's so much room
• 58:31
  back there. The camera, you can switch it.
• 58:35
  It has like a bird's eye view where you can look at the top of
• 58:38
  the truck and see all the way around it.
• 58:41
  There is some black blind spots though.
• 58:45
  Another camera you can the 360° camera you can change it from
• 58:50
  front, left, right, rear. Whenever.
• 58:56
  What's the biggest difference with loading them?
• 58:58
  Loading you can't load from the back because the back is they
• 59:02
  don't want you loading from the back and it is very it would be
• 59:06
  like the LOV. You could step off on the bumps
• 59:09
  like kind on the bumper to get in this one you can't you have
• 59:14
  to load from the side door, which brings me to another
• 59:17
  issue. It's not really an issue, it's
• 59:20
  just you can't have the door to the back of the truck open at
• 59:25
  the same time. You have the door to where you
• 59:27
  get in to sit open at the same time.
• 59:30
  Yeah, I, I, someone posted a video on Facebook.
• 59:33
  I saw that. How's the turning radius in
• 59:36
  them? It is the same as the LOVI feel.
• 59:39
  It's turns sharp, like on a dime.
• 59:43
  Nice and tight, what I said. Nice and tight.
• 59:46
  A nice tight turn radius. Yeah, yeah, lights.
• 59:49
  Go ahead, ask me questions. You said you have not been in an
• 59:54
  FFB before, correct? I haven't, I've only seen them
• 59:58
  out at the outside of them. OK.
• 1:00:00
  Well, then I can't ask you how, how you think it compares on
• 1:00:04
  that, you know, the LLB versus that return radius because am I
• 1:00:08
  the only one that's ever been in an FFB?
• 1:00:11
  No, I've been in an FFB. Oh, OK.
• 1:00:14
  We have like three of them in my office.
• 1:00:16
  The. P So the PLV routes that I used
• 1:00:18
  to be on, they're all, they all turn them into FF VS.
• 1:00:22
  So so one question says where can I leave my phone when you're
• 1:00:26
  in an NGDV? I usually leave mine in my bag
• 1:00:31
  or I put it on the lower the lower tray underneath.
• 1:00:36
  I I was just going to bring up something and I forgot what it
• 1:00:39
  was now it was it was good too. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:44
  They they. They do rattle.
• 1:00:48
  I, I I can say they. Do.
• 1:00:50
  Oh yeah. Yeah, the the shelvings do
• 1:00:53
  rattle pretty good when you're driving down the road.
• 1:00:56
  The trainer guy, the trainer guy before I was driving it, you
• 1:01:01
  know, on the regular roads, he's like wait until you hear it.
• 1:01:04
  The back door is, I hope they find something with that back
• 1:01:07
  door to get it to be quiet. It's, it's the shelves and it is
• 1:01:10
  pretty loud on the highway or they rattle.
• 1:01:14
  It doesn't matter whether they're folded or they're not.
• 1:01:17
  They're they're loud. How's the wind?
• 1:01:20
  For vibration. How is it with in in in a windy
• 1:01:24
  situation? I don't notice anything
• 1:01:27
  different really. OK, they're they're pretty.
• 1:01:30
  They're pretty sturdy in that aspect.
• 1:01:32
  Yeah, they feel a lot safer. Oh, right above the the
• 1:01:38
  windshield is huge right above the windshield like I got to
• 1:01:42
  pick myself up out of the driver's seat to reach it.
• 1:01:45
  But there's a whole bunch of pen slots and there's like slots to
• 1:01:49
  put like 3840 nines or whatever papers you need out on the route
• 1:01:54
  30 hold cards. So a book there should be a book
• 1:01:58
  up there like a the manual for the vehicle.
• 1:02:02
  I've actually looked into that because we got them pretty quick
• 1:02:06
  and some of them have had some issues.
• 1:02:09
  Mine had has had an issue with the with the the the door where
• 1:02:16
  I load my mail in to the tray. When I first got it, it had an
• 1:02:20
  issue. It kept saying the door was not
• 1:02:25
  closed and I had to keep taking it to the to the BMF, which is
• 1:02:29
  right with us at the SNDC. They were.
• 1:02:33
  Quick, yeah, they were quick fixing it and giving it right
• 1:02:37
  back to me. And then they had enough and I
• 1:02:39
  don't know what they did, but they fixed it and it hasn't,
• 1:02:42
  hasn't happened again since. So that's one of the issues.
• 1:02:47
  Another issue I had was the windshield wipers were like went
• 1:02:52
  off the side and got caught and then they're like they were
• 1:02:56
  moving all weird. And I, I went to the VMF and
• 1:03:01
  they kind of set the windshield wipers back to how they were
• 1:03:04
  supposed to be. They still act weird sometimes.
• 1:03:06
  But I did see a video too of somebody doing a whole like
• 1:03:15
  hover of the, of the vehicle and whoever that was did really
• 1:03:19
  well. Who wasn't?
• 1:03:21
  Do you know Jane or Josh? I I don't know, I just saw
• 1:03:24
  someone who put made a, a video on the side of the road.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah. I saw, I saw a part of it and he
• 1:03:32
  was going over everything. Yeah, I know in that in the one
• 1:03:35
  I saw, his number one complaint was dust.
• 1:03:38
  Yeah, the dust really hasn't bothered me much.
• 1:03:42
  The the issue that I don't like, oh, the two main issues that we
• 1:03:47
  have that I hear complaints is the driver door is super heavy
• 1:03:52
  and it is, it's really it slides.
• 1:03:56
  It's nice that it slides this very heavy compared to the LLBII
• 1:04:03
  have to usually use 22 both my hands to get it and if you're if
• 1:04:08
  you're on a incline it's it's really hard to shut the door.
• 1:04:13
  But. The other issue that is the most
• 1:04:17
  bothersome for me is when you shut the truck off, which is a
• 1:04:22
  push button like the mattress, and it automatically puts the
• 1:04:25
  park and puts the parking brake on.
• 1:04:30
  You can't just open the door. You got to you got to get the
• 1:04:34
  five and unlock the door. I just it's just I just wish I
• 1:04:39
  could shut the truck off and open the door, not have to look
• 1:04:42
  for the key fob and unlock it every time.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, my, my. Mattress like it's it's key.
• 1:04:48
  It has a it has like this, it's like key fob, but it it's still
• 1:04:52
  like a key thing that it has. But yeah, I was also going to
• 1:04:57
  ask you if the lighting in it, have you had to deliver in the
• 1:05:01
  dark yet with it? I haven't.
• 1:05:05
  I haven't, but the lighting is pretty good.
• 1:05:07
  There is a light in the back. There's also a fan in the back.
• 1:05:10
  I haven't really used it. Supposed to suck out the heat.
• 1:05:14
  The heat and the AC is both great from what I've I haven't
• 1:05:18
  used I I haven't drove it in the snow or really cold yet, but
• 1:05:23
  both of those seem to work really well.
• 1:05:25
  Did they give you a pretty in depth training on it or was it
• 1:05:29
  kind of like from the FB to LLLLB to FFB?
• 1:05:34
  All right, well, they're basically the same, except here
• 1:05:36
  are the differences. No, they did.
• 1:05:38
  They did it really well. We went off.
• 1:05:41
  We, we had to drive like an hour and a half away and go go to the
• 1:05:46
  driver trainers. At first they were sending us 2
• 1:05:49
  at a time but now they did get someone to probably a month ago
• 1:05:56
  or so they got someone from Binghamton to go up to train to
• 1:06:00
  be a trainer and she is actually training.
• 1:06:04
  She's been training I don't know how many people per week, but
• 1:06:08
  it's been getting done a lot quicker because so much easier
• 1:06:11
  to just go like 10 minutes away, to be trained on the vehicle, to
• 1:06:17
  drive all the way to an hour and a half away.
• 1:06:21
  Luckily it'll be all all the driver training unless they've
• 1:06:27
  moved. It has been out of where the new
• 1:06:29
  SNDC is going to because it was a GMFA general mail facility,
• 1:06:35
  which they the end of last year. They pulled all that equipment
• 1:06:39
  out 'cause that's where all the DPS and parcel sorting and flat
• 1:06:42
  sorting came from. And that's actually where our
• 1:06:44
  FSS machine was at in that building before they got rid of
• 1:06:49
  it. So they took all the mail
• 1:06:52
  processing equipment out and are in the process of converting it
• 1:06:55
  to an SNDC. I said lucky you.
• 1:06:58
  But honestly, I like the, I like the SMDC too.
• 1:07:02
  I love walking in and everything is just ready.
• 1:07:07
  I don't have to wait for more trucks to come, wait for clerks
• 1:07:10
  to sort things. It's all just ready.
• 1:07:13
  I, I go in there sometimes I'm there 1/2 an hour and I'm out on
• 1:07:17
  the road because everything's just there sorted all night.
• 1:07:21
  The parcel parcels are sorted all night or very early this
• 1:07:26
  morning like 4:00 AM. Have you had?
• 1:07:28
  To get your. Vehicle towed before the new one
• 1:07:32
  or does it have tow points like because like it has like that
• 1:07:37
  that bar that screws into it and they can yank it from that bar
• 1:07:41
  they. Have big like hitches on the new
• 1:07:44
  NGDB to tow it in the back and the front I think maybe just in
• 1:07:49
  the back. Are they just like permanently
• 1:07:51
  on there or is it like the bar, like the mattress that screws in
• 1:07:54
  and it's supposed to like no, it's.
• 1:07:56
  Permanently there in the back, right in the side, you can see
• 1:08:00
  it's like a big, you know, like a big, a very large door
• 1:08:06
  knocker. I would explain it as like a.
• 1:08:08
  Toe thing, toe hook? Yeah.
• 1:08:11
  Circle toe toe hook, No. The scanner.
• 1:08:14
  Does that actually charge your scanner or don't use it?
• 1:08:20
  I can't, I don't ever use it because the few times I have
• 1:08:25
  used it, I'm like why can't I find my scanner and there it is
• 1:08:29
  in the scanner holder. I don't use it.
• 1:08:31
  I at one time I tried to put it in there and look at because I
• 1:08:35
  heard that you could look at package look ahead on the
• 1:08:37
  screen. But I really, I don't know if
• 1:08:40
  this is good or not, but I really don't use that screen.
• 1:08:43
  I would rather use my mirrors and my windows.
• 1:08:47
  Obviously when I'm backing off, if I have to back off I use it,
• 1:08:51
  but that's it. Now I know the AC works lovely
• 1:08:54
  because I've heard about that consistently for the last three
• 1:08:57
  months. I'm sorry.
• 1:09:03
  I I love how she'd rub that in. Oh, my AC is great.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, shut up. It's 95° and I'm sweating.
• 1:09:09
  Yeah, yeah. For you being up to you.
• 1:09:14
  I know it's been chillier here where I'm at.
• 1:09:17
  Has it gotten cold enough up there for you to want or need
• 1:09:21
  the heat at least in the morning?
• 1:09:23
  And how well is that the? Other day yesterday the heat
• 1:09:26
  works really well too. I don't even know what day it
• 1:09:29
  is. Yesterday Monday it was like the
• 1:09:32
  high was like 4B9 and it was it was pretty cold but I run hot so
• 1:09:37
  I didn't. I really haven't used the heat
• 1:09:39
  all day. Nope, it works well.
• 1:09:44
  The LO VS have that and I think the FF ES also have that
• 1:09:49
  partition door to separate the cap from the back Does do you
• 1:09:52
  have that or no? Or is that open all the way
• 1:09:55
  there? Is the door there?
• 1:09:56
  I haven't I haven't used it, but it's there to block off the
• 1:10:00
  back. They say that that can help with
• 1:10:02
  the dust too, but I I haven't used it.
• 1:10:07
  I leave mine open there we're supposed to close.
• 1:10:11
  Keep it closed because then it's the cure.
• 1:10:13
  In case someone breaks into the the cab part they won't be able
• 1:10:17
  to get into the back because you need the key.
• 1:10:20
  At least the LL BS to open it to to get it to open, but I don't
• 1:10:26
  know many carriers that do. The different vehicles that
• 1:10:30
  you've driven, Lynette, now that you have the NGDV under your
• 1:10:33
  belt, which one is your favorite one for delivering mail out of?
• 1:10:38
  The new one by far. I mean, I was comfortable when I
• 1:10:42
  used my own vehicle, I was comfortable in the LOV, but the
• 1:10:47
  heat just that's unbearable. The heat, the NGDV is what wins
• 1:10:54
  for me. There's a couple little things
• 1:10:56
  that are bothersome, but not anything compared to that heat.
• 1:11:01
  Yes, being in an LOV for so many years, I'm just used to having
• 1:11:06
  to deal with it, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:09
  Yeah, I mean, I started in 2003. I've been a regular this coming
• 1:11:14
  May it'll be 12 years so. Yeah, I started in in October of
• 1:11:21
  O6 went regular in 15th at what, 10 year?
• 1:11:25
  It'll be 10 years next the end of the month that I've been a.
• 1:11:29
  Regular option, then you can go high.
• 1:11:32
  Option well in the spring if I get that low, but I've been a
• 1:11:37
  48K since before REC started so. Any other questions?
• 1:11:43
  On the truck numbers. Oh, on the truck?
• 1:11:45
  No, I don't think I have any lady.
• 1:11:48
  Oh, when they, when they measured.
• 1:11:50
  So when you, I know, like if you deliver out, 'cause there's some
• 1:11:55
  and I, I don't know, there's not that many of them, but there are
• 1:11:58
  out there. There's some rule carriers that
• 1:12:00
  deliver all key box routes in pro Masters and they've trained
• 1:12:03
  them and the people that are in the pro masters have to dismount
• 1:12:07
  through the side door. Do you, is there anything?
• 1:12:10
  Well, you can't really get in the back.
• 1:12:13
  Is there like do you have to like you can just open that
• 1:12:16
  door, slide out and go? Like if you ever have to get
• 1:12:19
  out, do you have you should just go out the normal door, But you
• 1:12:22
  said you can't open the the back part unless the front shut or
• 1:12:27
  whatever. Yeah, you could do it either
• 1:12:30
  way. You could stand up, and that's
• 1:12:32
  the great thing too. You could stand up and you're
• 1:12:35
  not like hunched over. You could do it either way, Make
• 1:12:40
  sure. You could.
• 1:12:42
  Just stand up out of the seat and walk to the back and get it
• 1:12:45
  and go out the regular door or go out the regular door.
• 1:12:48
  Make sure you have the key, the key fob thing, because it's, it
• 1:12:52
  doesn't plug in to the truck. It's just a push button.
• 1:12:56
  Step out the door, shut the driver door, open the side door
• 1:12:59
  and go up the stop, you know. Yeah.
• 1:13:02
  Can you open the side door from inside the truck the the cargo?
• 1:13:06
  Side I never have the the slide door to get out of the back.
• 1:13:10
  Yeah, from the on the side where the that you would normally you
• 1:13:14
  get out the driver's door, close the driver's door and then open
• 1:13:17
  that one. Are you able to open that one
• 1:13:19
  from the inside? I haven't tried.
• 1:13:22
  OK, just a question, you know, 'cause some may just be like
• 1:13:25
  easier instead of closing the one going out the other, just,
• 1:13:28
  you know, grab the fob, put it in your pocket, go out the side
• 1:13:32
  door if you're getting something from the back.
• 1:13:35
  There is the mirrors, I haven't used this yet either but they're
• 1:13:40
  supposed to have heaters to get get the frost off.
• 1:13:45
  Frost or fad whatever you put. There's a button at the truck to
• 1:13:51
  to heat them off so. You got heated mirrors, you have
• 1:13:54
  a heated meters, you have AC and you have. 360°.
• 1:14:00
  Camera on the outside driving, it is not so bad.
• 1:14:05
  Now what was the biggest adjustment with going from an
• 1:14:08
  LLV to the NGDV when it comes to driving and the difference in
• 1:14:13
  size? How how long did that take you
• 1:14:15
  to adjust to that? It didn't take me long maybe,
• 1:14:20
  and this is pushing it maybe a week.
• 1:14:23
  But I mean, you got to take when you're in the parking lot, you
• 1:14:27
  do got to take it, pull out a little bit more before you start
• 1:14:31
  turning. You can't just turn like in when
• 1:14:34
  you're parked in a row of them or you're going to side swipe
• 1:14:37
  the one next to you. But I, yeah, I that's happened
• 1:14:41
  already. One of the guys on the team to
• 1:14:45
  transcend us was saying one of the SND CS in Maryland within
• 1:14:50
  the first three hours of having the vehicles, three of them,
• 1:14:52
  back into each other at the dock.
• 1:14:55
  Oh my God, there is a beeping noise too like that tells you.
• 1:15:02
  That's why I asked you about the, you know, how in depth was
• 1:15:06
  the training on them or they say, here you go.
• 1:15:09
  The the training for me was really good, like they made me
• 1:15:13
  parallel park that thing like back up between these little
• 1:15:17
  dinky things and but maybe you know how it is, Maybe everyone
• 1:15:23
  didn't get great training. Oh no.
• 1:15:27
  Right, no, the post office not do training.
• 1:15:30
  Not train. People what?
• 1:15:34
  I don't believe it. Shocked Pikachu face.
• 1:15:43
  I love the truck I do there's you get used to it quick.
• 1:15:48
  I've been, I've been saying I hate this talk.
• 1:15:52
  I hate to talk. I'm thinking about getting hit
• 1:15:54
  in one of those things, but I'm telling you, I feel like
• 1:15:57
  everybody has thought about it. When you're a carrier.
• 1:16:00
  Oh yeah, When you're in an LOV, if you ever hit, if you ever get
• 1:16:03
  hit in an LOV, it is not going to be good.
• 1:16:07
  It's happened. Well, it's what's really sad is
• 1:16:11
  I one of my I've been texting somebody that that got hit today
• 1:16:15
  on the route. I'm like one of the business.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah, in an LOV, they're OK. But yeah, it's yeah.
• 1:16:22
  You think about it and where they got hit.
• 1:16:25
  I think about it every time I've delivered through there.
• 1:16:27
  All right, because you just don't know.
• 1:16:29
  So, so kind of going back a little bit to what you were
• 1:16:33
  talking about with the left hand door with the LLV and where you
• 1:16:35
  store some packages or collection or whatever.
• 1:16:39
  I use that for my extra trays of DPS.
• 1:16:42
  So I. I've seen people do that too,
• 1:16:44
  yeah. I do that for my DPS and
• 1:16:47
  sometimes my pull down. I use half trays to pull down
• 1:16:50
  South and that's if I have more than two or three depending on
• 1:16:54
  how heavy that day is and what I'm doing.
• 1:16:56
  I do DPS at the front of the tray in the middle is my my pull
• 1:17:01
  down and then normally I put my small boxes on that side unless
• 1:17:06
  I have a box holder or WSS or something, then I put that there
• 1:17:12
  and then my extra trays I put in that additional on that left
• 1:17:18
  hand door step there. But I do know, and this is
• 1:17:22
  coming from looking at the one that was at National Convention,
• 1:17:26
  the NGDV does not have any storage on that left side door,
• 1:17:30
  does it? No, you're not going to have
• 1:17:32
  room, but I just put my extra trays in the back.
• 1:17:36
  Plus, you've got the. Yeah, and you have?
• 1:17:38
  The second tray. Yeah, the dual trays, yeah.
• 1:17:41
  You have the second tray that you could put them under there,
• 1:17:44
  but I put my my I put 2 trays under there for my outgoing and
• 1:17:49
  then for my stuff that goes back to the office I have.
• 1:17:54
  There's a quick question and listener comments here, a little
• 1:17:56
  off topic, but I think we're going to cover it real quick.
• 1:17:59
  The easy one, since I was totally management, a local bid
• 1:18:02
  I was successful in is complete. My number one choice went to a
• 1:18:05
  senior bidder, but my second choice was that carrier's route.
• 1:18:08
  So that carrier has medical restrictions that they're in the
• 1:18:11
  process of on no, on the job injury.
• 1:18:15
  So I'm told I cannot assume their route until they are
• 1:18:17
  medically cleared to assume the other route.
• 1:18:19
  Yes, that would be correct I think.
• 1:18:21
  What is it? Is it six months?
• 1:18:23
  They have to be able to be 100%, yes, yeah, six months.
• 1:18:27
  It can be held in abeyance up to six months and that it goes for
• 1:18:31
  either and on the job or even off the job medical restriction.
• 1:18:34
  You have to be 100% capacity within six months and it can be
• 1:18:38
  held in abeyance up to. So is anybody got anything else
• 1:18:42
  on vehicles? I know, I'm trying to think.
• 1:18:45
  I mean we could go all day on different ways of loading.
• 1:18:48
  And I know. Else but you know, PO means I I
• 1:18:51
  first worked out of tubs. I'd have the tub I pulled down
• 1:18:54
  crisscrossed into tubs when I first started, had the tub sit
• 1:18:57
  in my lap and worked out of that.
• 1:18:59
  I when I had got my, my Lesabre, I had completely change up and
• 1:19:04
  do pull down into half trays and said half tray on my right hand
• 1:19:08
  knee my DPS and half trays in my Cutlass.
• 1:19:11
  I could put a whole tray of DPS in there.
• 1:19:13
  It's just because of the way I sat in the car and so I could
• 1:19:16
  pull that and, and now I, I still pull down and half trays
• 1:19:21
  even in my LLV because, well, I don't like, I know some people
• 1:19:25
  that pull in the DPS trays. To me, those are too flimsy when
• 1:19:28
  you're pulling a full tray. I don't like how heavy they are
• 1:19:31
  in the hard plastic ones. I like the inconvenience and the
• 1:19:35
  easiness of half trays myself. My DPS.
• 1:19:38
  Like I used a lot of the half trays.
• 1:19:41
  Yeah, I leave my DPS in the deep trays.
• 1:19:43
  When I was pregnant and I was trying to not lift as much, I
• 1:19:47
  did the half trays, but I actually pulled down into the
• 1:19:52
  deep trays and then I actually put all my small parcels in the
• 1:19:57
  deep trays because in the metro she can't, there's there's no
• 1:20:00
  room underneath. So I have all like my small
• 1:20:02
  parcels up on the on the tray. With me and I use, I use the,
• 1:20:09
  the, the tubs for or whatever we call them tubs, but I use those
• 1:20:14
  for, for my spurs, all my soft packages, anything that's soft
• 1:20:20
  and somewhat can be compressed, I usually do that.
• 1:20:24
  So I put 3 underneath my tray and then I have one that sits in
• 1:20:29
  front of the very front lengthwise and that's the one I
• 1:20:32
  work out of. And then I, you know, my sub
• 1:20:36
  uses the deep trays, the EDDM trays for, for smalls.
• 1:20:40
  I don't put my small boxes in that stuff.
• 1:20:44
  I put my small boxes on the trays so they're right there in
• 1:20:46
  front of me. I don't mark any of my parcels.
• 1:20:48
  So, and I swear by the shelves in my LLV I have to have at
• 1:20:53
  least one shelf and it has to be on the left hand side of the
• 1:20:56
  vehicle. If I'm only going to have one
• 1:20:58
  shelf in there, I prefer the two.
• 1:21:00
  I swear by my shelves and I, I, it, it irritates me when I have
• 1:21:05
  to use a different vehicle that doesn't have shelves in it or
• 1:21:08
  only has one and it's on the wrong side for me because it
• 1:21:10
  just throws my whole mojo off because that's what we've become
• 1:21:14
  accustomed to. You have the point is whether,
• 1:21:17
  yeah, exactly. I mean, whether you're driving a
• 1:21:20
  POV, you're, you're driving an FFV, an LLV, a mattress or the
• 1:21:25
  new Ng DVS, We all have our own way of what works for us, each
• 1:21:31
  individual carrier. So what works for me may not
• 1:21:34
  work for anybody else. Or, you know, I, I, again, I've
• 1:21:39
  changed stuff up throughout the years.
• 1:21:41
  You know, I'll have 11 years total in, in December of two
• 1:21:44
  years as a regular next month. You know, I've, I have changed
• 1:21:48
  things as I've gone through and evolved.
• 1:21:51
  And now I'm pretty solid in what I do because I've got the system
• 1:21:56
  that works for me. Now, if I end up with a
• 1:21:58
  different type of vehicle, the someday when I get an NGDV, I'm
• 1:22:02
  sure I'm going to change up again at first, or if I somehow
• 1:22:05
  end up, God forbid, a mattress and that no, no, you know, no
• 1:22:09
  shade at you there because not everybody, you know, some people
• 1:22:11
  love them. But again, if you're changing up
• 1:22:14
  a vehicle even from one type of POV to another, even a newer
• 1:22:18
  model of the same type of vehicle you've been driving,
• 1:22:21
  sometimes you're going to have to change up because you're not
• 1:22:24
  going to be able to load it the way or work out of it the way
• 1:22:26
  you have in the past. So it's just a matter of finding
• 1:22:30
  what works for you in the vehicle that you're you're
• 1:22:33
  using. But so far, you know, Lynette
• 1:22:36
  loves her NGTV. Again, nothing's perfect.
• 1:22:39
  And yeah, you got all those sensors on there and that goes
• 1:22:42
  beep, beep at ya and everything else.
• 1:22:45
  But as you know. Oh yeah, it's coming up to
• 1:22:49
  mailboxes a lot. You're getting a beeping because
• 1:22:53
  even grass is going to make it go off, you know?
• 1:22:58
  Don't. I've.
• 1:23:00
  I've called it. I told it to shut off.
• 1:23:03
  And that's the one thing we forgot to do before I left New
• 1:23:06
  York was the drive by clipping the the the the Bush.
• 1:23:12
  Yes, I know, deal it. We were gonna do that.
• 1:23:15
  She was gonna, we were gonna drive out there.
• 1:23:17
  One of us was gonna have the hedge trimmers in her hand and
• 1:23:19
  drive up and cut that Bush down 'cause nobody wanted to do it.
• 1:23:26
  I have a weed whacker of season today too.
• 1:23:29
  That's. Funny how how is it with
• 1:23:31
  overhanging vegetation with with the NGDVS, the lower tree limbs
• 1:23:36
  and whatnot? And have your customers been
• 1:23:38
  pretty good with you with adjusting with the vehicle?
• 1:23:42
  I was very lucky when I had my route inspection done.
• 1:23:49
  The new postmaster that we have rode with me, I think I'm the
• 1:23:53
  only one in the whole building that he rode with, but I'm not
• 1:23:56
  sure of that. He did a very good route
• 1:24:01
  inspection. He actually fixed my GP, my my
• 1:24:05
  points to fix my where the SPMSSPMS come up, where the SPMS
• 1:24:12
  come up. He from sitting in the back of
• 1:24:17
  the what did we do it? Yeah, it was.
• 1:24:20
  The LOV wasn't. It.
• 1:24:21
  Yeah, and he sat in the back and he looked at all the boxes going
• 1:24:28
  through my whole route and wrote letters to them and had them fix
• 1:24:33
  or cut trees and everything nice.
• 1:24:37
  Now the one question none of us have asked, and I don't know if
• 1:24:40
  you have an answer to this because you haven't had to train
• 1:24:43
  somebody, is there with the NGD BS.
• 1:24:47
  Is there a way to put a jump seat in there for training?
• 1:24:51
  I was just about to ask that. The only place I seen the jump
• 1:24:55
  seat was in the front where the big tray is, which she wouldn't
• 1:24:59
  be able to take out. You know what I mean?
• 1:25:01
  Where the when they were training us in Syracuse with the
• 1:25:04
  driver trainers there was 2 full size seats up front. 1 you know,
• 1:25:10
  in the spot where we use and then one where the trays are.
• 1:25:14
  Interesting. But there's no anchor points in
• 1:25:15
  the back. I'm not sure they're they're may
• 1:25:20
  be on, yeah. So if anybody out there with an
• 1:25:23
  NGDV and you're listening and you know the answer to that one
• 1:25:28
  for sure, is it possible to train new RC as in an Ng?
• 1:25:33
  DVII would think they did put something in there to be able to
• 1:25:38
  do that. 'Cause I know that can I know
• 1:25:40
  they've been go ahead. They've been after that that
• 1:25:46
  supervisor that died in the back of an LOVI know they're trying
• 1:25:50
  to like phase it out, but like I would feel like in the in the
• 1:25:53
  NGV with the air conditioning and the fan in the back that it
• 1:25:59
  would be more plausible to to do it versus an old LOV and then.
• 1:26:04
  Tomorrow. Yeah, let it.
• 1:26:06
  Let let me know. I I'm sure.
• 1:26:08
  Or you will. Yeah, I will.
• 1:26:09
  Or I'll remind you. I will.
• 1:26:11
  Yeah, you remind me. Yeah.
• 1:26:16
  You're all good. Metris does not.
• 1:26:19
  It has like some, it has some weird anchors back there and
• 1:26:23
  I've seen like one office like took some straps and Jerry
• 1:26:27
  rigged a a jump seat back there and it did not look safe.
• 1:26:33
  Yeah, I know. So just like I.
• 1:26:36
  Personally, would it? Do they have that in the FF BS?
• 1:26:39
  Yes, it is the same jump seat as the LLB all.
• 1:26:42
  Right, I was curious about. Yeah, just sinkers in.
• 1:26:44
  Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you like your mattress.
• 1:26:49
  I I do not like the mattress, just.
• 1:26:54
  Yeah, most people don't. Most people don't like it's.
• 1:26:57
  Like with any of the vehicles, you either love them or you hate
• 1:27:00
  them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:01
  I haven't driven the FFV or the metros that's in our office, so
• 1:27:05
  I can't compare. I've only driven the LLV's and
• 1:27:09
  several different POV's. But yeah, I, yeah.
• 1:27:14
  You love them or you hate them. Yeah, I've only met like one
• 1:27:19
  person that likes them like I do, I guess.
• 1:27:23
  You know what? A couple people I know that like
• 1:27:25
  them are all vertically challenged.
• 1:27:30
  Hey, the person that I'm talking about is in this chat right now
• 1:27:32
  and they are not vertically challenged.
• 1:27:34
  So I AM 54 and I do love my mattress.
• 1:27:43
  Like I said, because the one of the one of the women that has a
• 1:27:49
  mattress that at my station she loves, she's like, yeah, and I
• 1:27:53
  can stand up back here. She says you you be cunched over
• 1:27:57
  like no, no, but. You would I will just be sponge
• 1:28:04
  in the front. Of of your of your NGVV.
• 1:28:07
  See I did. You that on the match better.
• 1:28:10
  Oh, yeah. Does your back feel better in
• 1:28:12
  the, in the NGDV, 'cause you're not hunched, you're not having
• 1:28:17
  to go to the back like that. They used to tell us like in the
• 1:28:20
  driver training like don't reach your your left arm back and like
• 1:28:26
  go through that door because you're gonna like tear your
• 1:28:30
  rotator cuff like reaching or you're gonna hurt your back with
• 1:28:35
  that. But if it's it seems easier and
• 1:28:37
  then the tray coming closer to you.
• 1:28:39
  Yeah, both trays will come come closer to you.
• 1:28:42
  There's two adjustment things on the seat too.
• 1:28:46
  It tips. I mean, you can make it however
• 1:28:49
  is comfortable, but it is. I like the seat too.
• 1:28:55
  It. Has steel and then yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:59
  Nice. The mattress does.
• 1:29:01
  My mattress does. I know all.
• 1:29:02
  Not all of them do, but mine has it and I love it.
• 1:29:05
  Yeah, I've been looking forward to getting one of those since I
• 1:29:08
  first saw first heard about it. Follow them in Orlando in. 2022.
• 1:29:14
  What was that, 20? Yeah.
• 1:29:16
  Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. So you know, some of us will
• 1:29:21
  never see one in this decade. You might, but you can say never
• 1:29:26
  but. I said this decade.
• 1:29:28
  It'll be in the postal museum. Yeah, too next to the next to
• 1:29:33
  the the non driven LOV in there. Which I just laughed when I saw
• 1:29:37
  that picture and I was like, dude, we've got one in our fleet
• 1:29:41
  that's only 3002. Off the line after that.
• 1:29:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  There's some of that, some of those LO VS are as old as I am,
• 1:29:50
  or they're old and like there might be the year I was born and
• 1:29:53
  I'm just like Oh my God, like. I'm sorry, I know you're all the
• 1:30:00
  yummy one in here. I know.
• 1:30:02
  That's I was like Yep, sorry y'all.
• 1:30:05
  And the sad thing is, I'm the second youngest one in here.
• 1:30:10
  Well, let's see, they're what, 80 Lovs were 87 to 94, right?
• 1:30:15
  Yes. Yes, I used to drive one that
• 1:30:18
  was on my my secondary that was from 1989 and the wiring harness
• 1:30:23
  caught on fire in it and smoked out the whole front of my
• 1:30:27
  vehicle on like a first Monday of the new year on a business
• 1:30:31
  route day after holiday. We have an.
• 1:30:33
  It was, yeah. We have an 87 in our fleet.
• 1:30:36
  That's the arch truck. Mine is a 93.
• 1:30:39
  Route 2's that I'm currently driving is a 93.
• 1:30:42
  We have an 88 and a 91. Oh.
• 1:30:49
  A 90 and I think the other one is a 93 as well.
• 1:30:56
  But the one that I had that disappeared on me a few years
• 1:30:59
  back was a 431, which is 94. The one that stalls out after
• 1:31:05
  four hours is a 431 also. So oh, we discussed about
• 1:31:12
  mentioning that all disputes are due by this Friday the 24th.
• 1:31:17
  Yes. That was so you need to get them
• 1:31:19
  going. To mention on Sunday and well,
• 1:31:23
  Sunday didn't happen. So yes, Friday the 24th.
• 1:31:27
  Your disputes need to be filed by the 24th.
• 1:31:30
  Now I'm just telling you what my Dr. has told us at our booster
• 1:31:36
  this weekend. Yes, that working with labor as
• 1:31:40
  visits postmarked by, he will still be able to hear them.
• 1:31:44
  If you wait until next week to send it, it's not happening.
• 1:31:47
  They will probably not start working on them until at least
• 1:31:52
  here. The week after he said probably
• 1:31:55
  the week of the 3rd is when he's going to actually start sitting
• 1:31:57
  down and with labor. Yeah, I got.
• 1:32:01
  Fine in before we left for Italy and and so I did get a copy of
• 1:32:06
  it back. Let me know that she did send it
• 1:32:09
  up already. So that was waiting for me when
• 1:32:11
  I got back. But yeah, disputes guys, if you
• 1:32:14
  have a viable dispute, which we've covered in previous
• 1:32:17
  episodes, sales are due by the 24th no later.
• 1:32:21
  And it says right on the new on this spin e-mail surveys dispute
• 1:32:26
  form which is found in the NRLCA website.
• 1:32:28
  And it it says right on it due by October 24th, which is Friday
• 1:32:33
  and it's payday and yay. Oh, also.
• 1:32:37
  I believe it actually does say that they are allowed to be
• 1:32:41
  electronically sent. Also on the NRLCA website under
• 1:32:47
  the What's New if you Scroll down, I don't remember the exact
• 1:32:50
  date I saw it before we left to go to Italy.
• 1:32:54
  For those of us that are Table 2 carriers and we were curious on
• 1:32:58
  when the 50 weeks between step increases took effect.
• 1:33:03
  That went into effect at the beginning of the new guarantee
• 1:33:06
  period on 10/4. Those pay charts reflecting the
• 1:33:10
  50 weeks are available. It's under the What's New on the
• 1:33:14
  NRLCA website. If you go under the member
• 1:33:17
  research or the department or excuse me, director, the Labor
• 1:33:21
  Relations site and look up like you normally would tab for your
• 1:33:25
  pay chart, it won't be on there. It's under the What's New tab.
• 1:33:29
  And the and you also if you're on table two, well any
• 1:33:34
  everybody, all the regulars got a new form 50 at the beginning
• 1:33:38
  of the guarantee year. But table two people got two
• 1:33:41
  form 50s. One of them is indicating the 50
• 1:33:44
  week change for the for each step and the new RX evaluations.
• 1:33:50
  So if you're confused why you got, yeah.
• 1:33:53
  Oh, I got. Two, I was actually thinking,
• 1:33:55
  well, I won't fall in the 180 days, but I actually I do.
• 1:33:58
  So I will actually I get my step increase in a couple weeks and
• 1:34:02
  then the new general wage and increase, the 1.4% comes out
• 1:34:07
  November 22nd. So yeah, I get 2 increases
• 1:34:11
  coming up next month. I thought they're going to be on
• 1:34:14
  one check but not anymore because the 50 weeks went into
• 1:34:16
  effect so. Yeah.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah, I, I was thinking I wasn't going to get it this time
• 1:34:23
  around, but I they got it going, beginning of the guarantee
• 1:34:26
  period would actually make sense.
• 1:34:28
  So they gave them up to 180 days.
• 1:34:30
  They were able to do it in under 180 days.
• 1:34:33
  Beginning of the new guarantee. Woohoo.
• 1:34:35
  Yep. And like I said, those paid pay
• 1:34:38
  charts are available, but you got to go under the What's New
• 1:34:41
  tab on the website and find. I don't remember the date again,
• 1:34:45
  it was towards the end of September.
• 1:34:47
  I don't have it up. And I saw it briefly before we
• 1:34:50
  left to run off to Italy. And yeah, I'll talk more about
• 1:34:54
  Italy next time because it's going late and yeah, we wanted
• 1:34:59
  to get this done. So, guys, yeah.
• 1:35:02
  So words of advice, though, especially with the social media
• 1:35:07
  stuff, rumors don't rely on Google AI for information.
• 1:35:18
  You know how many AI things I see copied and pasted as
• 1:35:23
  replies? No, guys, a lot of the stuff
• 1:35:27
  that you have questions on, either one, reach out to your
• 1:35:30
  steward or your ADR or your Dr. for clarification.
• 1:35:34
  Go to the websites. If you're a dues paying member,
• 1:35:38
  get on that website. There is so much information
• 1:35:42
  there and a lot of your questions.
• 1:35:44
  Yeah, I know it can be kind of hard to navigate when if you're
• 1:35:47
  not used to it. Sometimes you just got to take
• 1:35:49
  that time and date dive and figure out how the website
• 1:35:52
  works. The app is wonderful in that,
• 1:35:55
  especially going for the Steward reference guide.
• 1:35:57
  You just hit that SRG on the bottom, bam, it's right there.
• 1:36:00
  You hit the letter that you something you're looking for.
• 1:36:02
  Again, sometimes it's not always there and you got to go look
• 1:36:05
  under something else. Trust me.
• 1:36:09
  Yeah, that. Well, that's what I'm doing
• 1:36:10
  right now. Yeah.
• 1:36:12
  I just went like 4 different letters looking for that
• 1:36:15
  question. That's there.
• 1:36:16
  Yeah. But abeyance isn't on there.
• 1:36:20
  It's not under abeyance, it's under bidding, Yeah.
• 1:36:25
  Some things you would think are one thing and they're not,
• 1:36:27
  they're under something else. So yes, that can be a little
• 1:36:30
  nerve wracking at times when you're trying to find something
• 1:36:32
  quick that or you know, if you know somebody that knows it a
• 1:36:35
  little better than you do, you can always ask them, hey, where
• 1:36:37
  is this? But again, that's what your
• 1:36:39
  stewards are there for. Your ADR, your Dr., give them a
• 1:36:42
  phone call, shoot them an e-mail.
• 1:36:44
  They prefer phone calls or e-mail, not necessarily text
• 1:36:48
  because, well, texting is technically not a form of
• 1:36:53
  communication acceptable and which we all know.
• 1:36:57
  And there is documentation on that.
• 1:36:58
  Especially when it comes to management texting us and
• 1:37:00
  texting us on our phones and texting us on the scanners and
• 1:37:03
  calling us on our phones. You can't fight that.
• 1:37:06
  There is documentation from that.
• 1:37:07
  And then that goes all the way back to like 10 years ago.
• 1:37:10
  So on that note, guys, you know, POVSI mean I do I miss driving
• 1:37:16
  APOV at times. I miss the comfort of my own
• 1:37:18
  vehicle at times. I definitely don't miss the
• 1:37:20
  repairs, the money. I you know, I've got an LLV.
• 1:37:26
  I'll deal with it until I eventually get something new.
• 1:37:30
  And we're a small office in northern Michigan.
• 1:37:33
  I don't expect to see it anytime soon.
• 1:37:37
  We've got, you know, I want to thank Lynette for coming on and
• 1:37:41
  kind of giving us her little rundown and her her pros and
• 1:37:45
  cons of the AGDV because there's not a ton of them out there just
• 1:37:49
  yet. You know, they're going to the
• 1:37:51
  SND CS mainly first and she's lucky enough to have gotten 1
• 1:37:55
  back in July and has been driving it for three months.
• 1:37:59
  So after the winter time, we might have to have you come back
• 1:38:03
  and tell us how it does in the winter.
• 1:38:05
  Yeah, seriously. And they are.
• 1:38:07
  Standing on the timeline, I might be able to.
• 1:38:10
  Yeah, standard issue is front wheel drive.
• 1:38:13
  They do have some all-wheel drive ones out there.
• 1:38:16
  Where they're going I don't know, but they that is the
• 1:38:19
  biggest difference as well from an FFV and an LLV and the
• 1:38:23
  mattress is those are all rear wheel drive and the NGDVS are
• 1:38:27
  front wheel drive. One of the other another thing
• 1:38:29
  is they showed us that the all the ones we got are gasoline
• 1:38:34
  vehicles, but they do have a spot in the back to convert them
• 1:38:39
  to electric if they ever wanted to.
• 1:38:43
  Yeah. I I think that was part of the
• 1:38:45
  original contract is that they could retrofit them.
• 1:38:49
  Heck yeah. Seriously, those Thank you,
• 1:38:53
  Lynette. Thank you.
• 1:38:55
  Yeah. Thank you, Lynette.
• 1:38:57
  So we're gonna go ahead and wind this down.
• 1:39:01
  And final thoughts, Josh? Excuse me, I know it's been a
• 1:39:06
  little warm in some places still, so keep hydrating.
• 1:39:09
  Even if it's cold, keep hydrating.
• 1:39:12
  We're getting into that season, so just get ready to hug and
• 1:39:16
  kiss your loved ones and tell them you'll see them after New
• 1:39:18
  Year's. We're not quite there, but we're
• 1:39:21
  getting close. Don't get stressed, don't get
• 1:39:24
  overwhelmed. If you do, take a step back,
• 1:39:27
  take a deep breath and step back in.
• 1:39:30
  Have a good week and we'll catch you next time.
• 1:39:33
  Meow well. Thank you guys, seriously, thank
• 1:39:36
  you, Lynette, 'cause that's yeah, like it's, it's such a new
• 1:39:39
  thing that I know that there's a lot of people who have a lot of
• 1:39:42
  questions about it. So it, it was very much
• 1:39:46
  appreciated. I'm glad that you guys also had
• 1:39:50
  a fun trip in Italy and it's been nice talking with.
• 1:39:54
  Yeah, and. It's been nice chatting with
• 1:39:57
  everybody about postal stuff. I know we all ramble and
• 1:40:00
  whatnot, but it's still, it's still fun to vent and figure out
• 1:40:05
  because we all do things differently.
• 1:40:09
  We. Yeah.
• 1:40:09
  And it's similar, but all but a little different, you know?
• 1:40:13
  So just the other thing I was going to say too yeah just yeah,
• 1:40:18
  Fact Check your sources of of information because yeah I mean
• 1:40:23
  that Kristen already said it too.
• 1:40:26
  You would you think you can just Google it and Google AI will
• 1:40:29
  know the answer but it it does not always cancer either so so.
• 1:40:37
  It knows the answer if it makes it up.
• 1:40:40
  Yeah, and then somebody else posted like some ChatGPT answer
• 1:40:44
  in there too and I was like what like this is not right.
• 1:40:48
  So just Fact Check your stuff. Don't believe everything.
• 1:40:53
  The don't read them comments. That's that's what my brother
• 1:40:56
  tells me that he's like don't read the comments Corey, don't
• 1:40:58
  read them. It'll be fine.
• 1:40:59
  But. That's how you pop the pop
• 1:41:02
  before you go. Read in the comments.
• 1:41:04
  Yeah, then you can really just sit there with it.
• 1:41:06
  Yeah, so get those disputes in and if you're having issues with
• 1:41:12
  that, please like call your steward because manager, the
• 1:41:17
  manager should be meeting with you.
• 1:41:19
  I know it's we're kind of in that crunch time now of panic,
• 1:41:22
  but get them in if you need them.
• 1:41:26
  So yeah, I had something else I can't remember because my
• 1:41:31
  brain's broken. But stay safe, everybody, and
• 1:41:35
  have a good week. All right, Lynette.
• 1:41:38
  Nope, she already left the Spur tonight.
• 1:41:40
  She peaced out. She did she.
• 1:41:42
  Did. Yep, it's me.
• 1:41:45
  So yeah, guys, I mean, you know, we wanted to get out there and
• 1:41:49
  we, we have discussed with bringing her on in the past for
• 1:41:52
  the NGDV. So we, you know, I, I get
• 1:41:55
  there's a lot of right hand drive POV's out there.
• 1:41:58
  Kudos to you. I personally never drove a right
• 1:42:01
  hand drive. I never did a conversion.
• 1:42:04
  The only experience I have was putting the pedals and taking
• 1:42:08
  them out out of Ruby's vehicle. I never even drove it with the
• 1:42:11
  pedals in there. So that I am the last person
• 1:42:14
  about that. But if you need a set of pedals
• 1:42:16
  that let me know because I have some sitting in my garage that
• 1:42:19
  are like brand new. So anyways, I'm not going to use
• 1:42:25
  them anytime soon. So, but yeah, no, I I think
• 1:42:30
  because there's so many different vehicles that we do
• 1:42:32
  have available now that are out that am I saying that that we do
• 1:42:36
  have available because we all know that a lot of them are
• 1:42:39
  going to get crunched, but there is a lot out.
• 1:42:42
  In LOV graveyard. Yes I mean I just in my small
• 1:42:47
  office alone of 6 rural routes and ox route and two three city
• 1:42:52
  routes. We have an FFV loaner, we have a
• 1:42:56
  Metris on the city route, and the rest are LO VS and one POV
• 1:43:00
  route. And I'm not including the
• 1:43:03
  highway contract because, well, they're technically not under
• 1:43:07
  our umbrella. So I do have a highway
• 1:43:09
  contractor out in my office as well.
• 1:43:11
  But so, yeah, so you know, the you, you see, you see offices
• 1:43:15
  like that that have one of everything at the moment.
• 1:43:18
  And now with the NGD VS rolling out with primarily the SND CS
• 1:43:25
  first, you know, you're going to start seeing them.
• 1:43:28
  That was really, really fun for me to actually when Lynette and
• 1:43:31
  I were driving from her house and course, you know, as we are
• 1:43:35
  mail carriers and she's pointing out, oh, this used to be part of
• 1:43:38
  my route. Oh no, this is part of my route.
• 1:43:40
  And waiting, you know, it's Sunday as we're heading out to
• 1:43:44
  the to New York City. You know, it's a four hour drive
• 1:43:46
  from her house to go to JFK. And we passed the Amazon Sunday
• 1:43:50
  delivery person driving an NGDV, You know, so I had to take a
• 1:43:54
  picture. I was like, oh duck mobile in
• 1:43:56
  the wild. That's great.
• 1:44:02
  I know, right? And, and of course I'm sitting
• 1:44:05
  there in the passenger seat in the car with her and she's
• 1:44:07
  pointing out, you know, like we do with our friends and, and
• 1:44:11
  family when we're driving parts of our route going oh, blah,
• 1:44:13
  blah, blah. And I'm like, now I know how my
• 1:44:15
  kids feel when I do this to them in the car.
• 1:44:21
  It was very cool because that's an area I've never seen before.
• 1:44:23
  So, you know. Yeah.
• 1:44:27
  And oh, yeah. When we were in Italy, real
• 1:44:28
  quick before I sign off, I because, you know, they're
• 1:44:32
  different and I've seen posts. We've had a lot of carriers
• 1:44:35
  going to Italy this year. I saw, you know, another one
• 1:44:38
  that had a picture of one of the small offices outside of the
• 1:44:42
  Vatican. I didn't see one in Rome
• 1:44:44
  personally, But when we were in Naples and one of our walk one
• 1:44:47
  day through Naples was the big main office in Naples and it was
• 1:44:53
  huge. And then I did see a smaller one
• 1:44:57
  the next night when we were walking around.
• 1:44:59
  That was closed, but I did see a Italian mail carrier walking
• 1:45:06
  with the satchel. But then I noticed his vehicle
• 1:45:10
  was a Vespa. So there are there are carriers
• 1:45:13
  in Italy that use mopeds for delivering the mail.
• 1:45:17
  And he had a lock box on the back of it that, you know, had
• 1:45:21
  the the post Insignia on it. And I was like, huh, I should
• 1:45:26
  have took a picture. But we were, we were walking and
• 1:45:29
  I, our minds are we're trying to figure out where the hell we
• 1:45:32
  were going. You know, we got Google Maps up
• 1:45:34
  on one phone. Why?
• 1:45:35
  We're all trying to figure out where the hell we're at.
• 1:45:37
  So but yeah, that was really cool.
• 1:45:39
  You know, I see, I was like, oh, that was the mail carrier.
• 1:45:42
  She's like, huh, Because I saw him putting something in boxes.
• 1:45:44
  But I'm like, really? He didn't pay attention to the
• 1:45:46
  fact he had a Szechuan and the Italian post outfit.
• 1:45:50
  And then I see the Vespa and I'm like, oh, he's delivering mail
• 1:45:54
  from an old pad. OK, so yeah, you know, a little
• 1:45:59
  differences, but it's still pretty cool.
• 1:46:01
  But on that note, guys, yes, we are coming into holiday season
• 1:46:06
  is quickly coming upon us. I know.
• 1:46:08
  I got that talking to you last night.
• 1:46:10
  It seems like it's going to get later and later.
• 1:46:12
  Well, Well, yeah, yeah, Yeah. I had to remind the other half
• 1:46:16
  that, yes, I didn't get home till 6:00 tonight for the sheer
• 1:46:20
  fact that I've been gone for two weeks and had to play clean up
• 1:46:22
  today and clean up. Yeah.
• 1:46:24
  And it was Monday and the 45 minutes end of shift from
• 1:46:28
  playing cleanup. Yes, I said, but I said holiday
• 1:46:32
  season is quickly coming upon us.
• 1:46:34
  It's going to be, it's going to get later and later.
• 1:46:38
  And you know I'll see you come New Year 'cause I'm pretty sure
• 1:46:40
  I'm going to end up working most my K days between now and
• 1:46:43
  Christmas anyways. Yeah.
• 1:46:45
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to set my
• 1:46:47
  Christmas tree up early. We have two Subs in the office,
• 1:46:50
  so yeah, that's what's going to happen.
• 1:46:52
  So I already have that feeling. But on that note, guys,
• 1:46:56
  remember, always stay hydrated, regardless of the time of year.
• 1:47:00
  Hydration is important. I'm going to push that.
• 1:47:02
  Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Lynette is calling me right now,
• 1:47:06
  but I'll call her back when I'm done.
• 1:47:08
  And stay safe out there, Stay vigilant.
• 1:47:15
  Get your disputes in by Friday the 24th and we should be back.
• 1:47:22
  A normal day and time coming up, am I right guys?
• 1:47:25
  Nothing going on this weekend with anything, all right?
• 1:47:28
  Sunday night. Recording Monday.
• 1:47:31
  Y'all can listen to us so. But at least we got something
• 1:47:34
  out for you this week so you didn't have to wait yet another
• 1:47:36
  week. And we talked about the
• 1:47:38
  vehicles. And please, please Fact Check
• 1:47:41
  the social media stuff. I mean social media is can be
• 1:47:45
  great for bringing people together, tossing ideas out,
• 1:47:48
  getting directions on where to look for stuff.
• 1:47:51
  But don't rely on it on your information.
• 1:47:54
  If you are a Deuce paying member, please go to the NRLCA
• 1:47:59
  sites. Plenty and plenty of
• 1:48:01
  information. Tons of information there.
• 1:48:03
  I can't. I mean I haven't even looked at
• 1:48:05
  all the information on there and I am on there almost every day
• 1:48:08
  for one thing or another. You know there are other avenues
• 1:48:11
  if you do not have access to the website to get that information.
• 1:48:16
  You can always reach out to your designated stewards, whether
• 1:48:21
  it's a local area, ADR, your Dr., you know, they should be
• 1:48:26
  valuable resources for you as well.
• 1:48:29
  If they are not, well, we're not going to talk about that right
• 1:48:31
  now. We're not going to get into that
• 1:48:33
  because that's for another episode down the road.
• 1:48:36
  I do know we are going to try and put together something about
• 1:48:40
  the history of the NRLCA that will probably be a multi episode
• 1:48:45
  series and we were going to do that after the holidays.
• 1:48:51
  Yeah, yeah. That's kind of like a that,
• 1:48:54
  that's a, that's a, a, that's a project between me and Meow that
• 1:48:58
  we really want to try and do. So I think that's going to bring
• 1:49:01
  a lot of understanding to especially some of the newer
• 1:49:04
  people and, and where our association started and, and how
• 1:49:09
  it got to where it is now and, and that type of stuff.
• 1:49:13
  And there's some really fun, cool stuff in there.
• 1:49:16
  And so we're going to do that. That'll be again after the
• 1:49:20
  holidays cause we all know it's coming upon us.
• 1:49:24
  We've already had Columbus Day. We all know that's the
• 1:49:26
  unofficial kickoff. And for now, it's all uphill
• 1:49:30
  until Christmas. So but yeah, guys, stay safe,
• 1:49:35
  stay vigilant, stay hydrated, stay warm.
• 1:49:38
  If it's cool, it's starting to get colder where you're at, stay
• 1:49:41
  cool if it's still hot where you're at, You know, some of us
• 1:49:44
  in the Midwest, we never know, it could be 80° one day and 40
• 1:49:48
  the next. That's just how it is.
• 1:49:50
  I we've been getting rain here finally, but it's cooled off.
• 1:49:54
  I actually ran the heat in the LOV today a couple different
• 1:49:57
  times. So it, you know, you got to do
• 1:50:01
  what works best for you. If anybody has any questions or
• 1:50:05
  ideas, because maybe you're newer or you've got a system
• 1:50:08
  that just isn't working out for you, you know, feel free to ask.
• 1:50:11
  You can ask your case mate. You can e-mail us, you can VM us
• 1:50:16
  individually. I still have the private
• 1:50:19
  messages turned off on the Facebook side and stuff for the
• 1:50:22
  podcast, just because that's a whole lot for one person to
• 1:50:25
  handle right now. So emailing, usually if I get an
• 1:50:28
  e-mail, I'll take a screenshot, post it to the other host, say
• 1:50:31
  hey guys and I try to get back to you.
• 1:50:33
  If I don't get back to you or we don't address it on a future
• 1:50:36
  episode, I do apologize. Life can get crazy for
• 1:50:38
  everybody. So we know we try, we try, we
• 1:50:44
  try. We're.
• 1:50:44
  We're. Not perfect.
• 1:50:47
  Just freak out to us again if we haven't.
• 1:50:49
  Yeah, exactly. Just.
• 1:50:51
  Hey I sent you a message, I haven't heard anything.
• 1:50:53
  Yeah, please follow up again. Like I said, we're human.
• 1:50:57
  Life happens. We all have jobs, families,
• 1:51:01
  vacations. I still wish I was on right now,
• 1:51:04
  but yeah, football season's underway.
• 1:51:10
  I saw one of the best high school games I've seen in a long
• 1:51:13
  time on Friday when I went to go watch my daughter for marching
• 1:51:16
  band. A happy 15th birthday to my
• 1:51:19
  youngest daughter today, Ruby turned 19 on Sunday, I know my
• 1:51:26
  youngest grandson's now a month old.
• 1:51:28
  Yeah, things have been busy for me so.
• 1:51:32
  Life stuff, yeah. I know.
• 1:51:34
  So guys, take it easy and we'll be back regularly scheduled time
• 1:51:37
  for next week and till then, you know, do what you got to do and
• 1:51:44
  make it work for you I guess. Sounds good.
• 1:51:49
  I'm tired. Have a good have a good night
• 1:51:52
  everybody.