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Back to Reality · TFEs: Thoughts. Feelings. Emotions. (sports)

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of TFE's first day
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  of school.
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  Speaker 2: Also the end of summer.
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  Speaker 3: The end of summer!
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  Speaker 2: We also enjoyed... Vacations are over! Vacations are over. Very sad.
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  But they were great times. Um.
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  Speaker 3: We had some optimism though, some pessimism, some things to
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  be grateful for, things to be sad about and listful for.
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  Happy about feelings.
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  Speaker 2: You're in your feelings.
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  Speaker 3: I will say also though, I got very optimistic about
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  the topic. It was randomly off topic. You did.
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  Speaker 2: But that was surprising.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You are the optimistic person and I am the pessimistic person.
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  Speaker 4: Just like it is in our relationship.
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  Speaker 5: Always.
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  Speaker 2: Also a random story about my nose falling off.
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  Speaker 1: That story is one I could have done without, but
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  you're going to get it right now.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? Welcome into TFV's.
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  Speaker 1: Dallin Cuff, Kelsey Riggs Cuff, back for another episode. And
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  before we get to TFV's off the top, two things.
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  I thought for sure that this was going to be
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  the episode that you wore shoes. Why? Because your purple
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  toe is just screaming at me right now.
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  Speaker 3: I usually wear socks, so I feel like it seemed
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  like a bit of a prop. I wanted to make
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  sure anybody that's watching got to see my purple toe.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you can even tell from here,
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  but it looks great. Might be broken.
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  Speaker 2: Sweet.
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  Speaker 3: Why would I get shoes?
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to put my foot in a shoe right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just thought you would want to cover
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  that up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you already have, I love everything about you,
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  but very interesting feet.
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  Speaker 3: You just cut, you cut my toenails the other day.
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  Speaker 2: That's real love.
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  Speaker 5: God, I did.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's real love.
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  Speaker 3: Because you needed that. I think that's the most, biggest display.
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  Forget having our child. I think it's the fact that
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  you cut my toenails.
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  Speaker 1: Or is it the fact that I gave you like
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  a full pedicure to go along with the toenail cutting?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely did some other work too. That's right.
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  You needed to be done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
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  Speaker 5: Same customer.
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  Speaker 1: You busted your toe up the next day and now
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  here we are and your purple toe is just standing
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  out here. Jeans are so weird. You do have really
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  weird feet and toes. What do you mean really weird feet?
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  What does that even mean? Your pinky toe isn't even
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  like a toe nail. That's a sports thing over years.
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  It's got mold.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I believe that because Dace has
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  the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: Mine was like 9 or 10. It was around for
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  a while.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Dace's look like yours and he's 2 and he
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  hasn't been playing sports. And then they're just kind of odd.
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  Speaker 2: What else is odd about my feet?
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  Speaker 3: I can't really flex my left foot.
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  Speaker 4: The toenails, the way they're shaped.
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  Speaker 3: Your second toe is very long.
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  Speaker 2: It's longer than the big toe. Yeah, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that mine's not long at all,
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  but mine's a lot more proportionate.
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  Speaker 2: Mine covers the big toe. The big toe is not
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  the captain of the toes.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the first thing off the top.
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  Speaker 1: Second thing, did you strategically put this football in my
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  chair just to be like, oh, football season's here.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't taste it.
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  Speaker 3: He's so smart.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, this is fitting because it
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  is kind of freaking crazy that football season's here.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: We went to the freaking World Cup game. It feels
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  like yesterday. That was over two months ago. Think about that.
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  But yeah, football season's here. School's about to start. Summer's
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  almost over.
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  Speaker 2: Summer's over. I mean, we're going to enjoy our last
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  few days. Very much so.
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  Speaker 3: But this shit's a wrap. You know, TFE is off
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  the top.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts?
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  Speaker 3: Kind of what I just, I can't believe that summer's over.
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  I was so excited for it to start and now
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  we're pretty much nearing the end.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: This is what's weird too. I'm excited for Lear to
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  go back to school because she loves school. I was
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  so not that way. Like I used to hate the
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  end of summer.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: I hated it. Summer was so much.
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  Speaker 3: Summer was like basketball camps, playing whatever sport, basketball, football, baseball,
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  all-star stuff too, because I was still formalized. But the
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  summer then became just playing with your boys. And that
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  was just like riding bikes and doing shit. I just
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  never wanted summer to end, especially when I was first
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  through eighth grade. High school, I guess I didn't want
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  it then either, but for different reasons. But I'm excited
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  that she's pumped about it. Days is excited about school too,
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  which leads me into my feelings. I'm pumped for my
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  little man to start school. Just really ready for him
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  to experience school. He loves new people. He loves meeting people.
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  He likes doing things and he's so comfortable in those environments.
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  Now there's, I guess, a little apprehension that he wouldn't
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  be in that. I would be shocked if he would,
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  whether it was daycare or the kids club at the
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  gym or whatever it may be. He just kind of,
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  I think that's a little bit to how he's grown
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  up where it's just been, you know, the village has
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  raised him and he's just super comfortable meeting new people
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  and having fun. Um, I think his mom has done
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  a very good job of getting excited about school. So
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  there's a little apprehension that he may not love it
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  as much as I think he will, but I think
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  I'm like feeling just like an excitement for them. Um,
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  and the sadness that it's over, like we, we have
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  a couple more days with Lyra here all those days.
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  So we have some fun things planned, her first sleepover,
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  which she'll be excited about. Um, she's excited about your
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  sister's coming to visit as well. So there's a lot
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  of things we're going to pack into the last few days,
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  but I think there's that, that sadness too, that, that,
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  that now that's over. And then the last part, I guess,
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  from like an emotional standpoint, there's, um, it's not just
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  school starting. Like you're going to start going back to
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  work every weekend with football. I'm doing football, which I
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  haven't done, uh, on the road for half, like half
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  a season package, but that's a lot of travel. There's,
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  there's a, um, there's a, uh, feeling, I would say
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  an emotion of like, it's not anxiety. It's like an
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  anxiousness about like, things are real now. Like we're going
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  to be living on a much different experience we've had
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  the last like six, seven, eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And that was awesome. But it's like, we're hitting like
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  the road, hitting the ground. Like, here we go. It's
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  like that. So there's like anxiety around that. There's some
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  excitement around that.
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  Speaker 3: There's some future exhaustion that I think we're waiting to
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  get to.
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  Speaker 2: So that I've said a lot, I'm not sure what
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  I've said, but I've said a lot. How about you?
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  Speaker 3: I've said a lot.
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  Speaker 4: My thoughts are like summer flew by.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I remember it being the end of basketball
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  season and, And I was having all these grand plans
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  about like a couple of slow weeks and things we're
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  going to check off the to-do list.
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  Speaker 3: And that we wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden we blinked and it
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  was like already midway through May. We hadn't done any
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  of those things and all this other stuff had popped up.
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  And now here we are the end of August and
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  summer's almost over. So- Um, my feelings are really grateful
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  that we had such a good, fun, full summer. I
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  feel like we did do a lot and accomplished a
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  lot and also just like, just had a lot of
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  good family time and then a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Good time together.
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  Speaker 1: We just got back from a short little trip with
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  the two of us, which was nice to get away.
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  Speaker 4: Um, I don't think as like, You mentioned how you were.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was always sad summer was ending for sure,
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  but I was excited to go back to school. I
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  remember some days, like the night before, it's like the
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  jitters and stuff, but I was always excited to go
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  back and see my friends and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like as a mom, I'm never going.
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  Speaker 1: To be excited for them to go back to school.
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  I'm going to put on that I'm excited so that
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  they are, but I just love this time. Like I
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  love the time to plan things. I love the time
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  to do nothing. I love the slow days. I love
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  the busy days where we pack a lot in. And
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  I think that's why I have been so emotional when
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  we talked about days doing five days of preschool, it's
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  only three and a half hours a day, but it's like,
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  I know that those just like days of nothing are
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  gone and there's no looking back on that. And, um,
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  That part I think is the part that's hard for
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  me because it's like I do, whether it's stressful or
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  challenging or whatever it is, like I do just love
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  this time. I think my dad keeps pocket dialing me
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  because he's now called me twice and it said leaving
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  a voicemail for like maybe 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: So that's good.
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  Speaker 6: Hello dad again.
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  Speaker 1: So my emotions are definitely emotional about the start of
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  school and I'm glad Lyra has such a positive outlook
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  and that she's so excited to go back and see
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  her friends. She'll be excited for like the summertime, the
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  fun ending, but she's just so excited to see her
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  friends and.
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  Speaker 4: Like love school. And then Dace is so excited.
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  Speaker 1: And so that makes it harder to be super emotional
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  and emo in the lead up. I still am. And
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  I will be that day. There's so many tears shed.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not ready to do this.
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  Speaker 4: It already makes my eyes water.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be emotional that day, but, you know, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking about it the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I feel like we've only been parents together today
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  for just over two years and there's like, I can
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  at least speak for myself. I know that like there's
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  some stuff we've done wrong and there's a lot, I mean, right.
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  And there's a, I'm sure a lot I've done wrong
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  or could have done better or, you know, just whatever
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  it is, like you don't get everything right.
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  Speaker 4: But I am really proud of the way that we've.
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  Speaker 1: Handled like not having help and the just situations that
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  we've put days in where so many people love him,
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  but also like, he does think meeting.
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  Speaker 4: New people is like a really cool experience.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's one.
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  Speaker 4: Thing that we got right.
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  Speaker 3: Like he, he is always.
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  Speaker 1: So excited to meet new people, whether it was a
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  new sitter and we're getting him hyped up about that.
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  So to see this little two year old for like
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  weeks now, I'll be like, I'm going to school. This
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  is my teacher. I'm going to school and telling everybody
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  his teacher's name. The other day he saw some people
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  and he was like, um, as soon as he saw them,
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  nice to meet you. And I was like, I mean,
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  he's just like a little social dude. Will that translate
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  in a different actual classroom setting with all these other
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  little kids?
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  Speaker 3: I hope so.
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  Speaker 1: I think it will because he like loves kids and
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  being around things.
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  Speaker 4: Um, but I don't know, but I do feel like I'm,
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  I'm proud.
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  Speaker 1: Of us that like, that is the one thing that
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  I will say if there are other people out there
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  that are struggling and like, don't have family around and
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  are like, what, what do we do and how do
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  we make it? It's like, I'm so grateful that days
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  is loved by so many, but also is so willing
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  to be loved by so many people.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I echo that in terms of being grateful that
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  Aaliyah loves school and we think is excited about this,
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  excited to go back. Because as you were talking, it
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  flashed in my head because I did say first through
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  eighth grade. We moved when I was 14 and went
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  to Florida. And I was miserable. I didn't want to go.
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  I was going into high school. I still remember that
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  first day, like getting on the bus to go to school.
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  It was still dark out because they started school like 7.05 a.m.
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  or something like that. Yeah, why did high school start
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  so early?
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy. The first buzzer went off.
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  Speaker 4: Jerk teenagers need more sleep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've talked about inverting these things. I don't think
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  they're actually going to do them. But anyway, I was
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  so unhappy that first like four or five days. It's
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  like one of those things where I sat by myself
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  at lunch in the beginning and I came from a
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  place where everybody knew me, you know, super social and love.
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  So I was just so out of place and uncomfortable
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  there and just hated it. And I remember going home
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  and telling my mom on the first day of school,
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  like just how miserable I was and how much I
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  hated it. She didn't want to move either, but then
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  she was crushed. Like when I was telling her, I was,
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  she's crying. Because now I have a whole different perspective
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  on it. She can tell me things will be fine.
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  It's just an adjustment period.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be different.
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  Speaker 3: But for her, she was just distraught at the fact
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  that I have these three kids. I just moved down here.
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  They're all super unhappy. And she wasn't happy, to be honest,
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  at the beginning. But that was a situation where it
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  made it so much worse. I feel when we went
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  back to school, it just made it even harder for her.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of empathy for parents that have a situation
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  where their kids struggle and aren't happy or don't like
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  it or aren't excited. That transition's hard because that just
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  makes it exponentially worse on top of the fact that
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  as a parent now you're thinking about, I have my job,
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  I have this, I got to take care of this.
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  There's all these things you got to do and now
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  you have the emotional challenge of your kid where they're
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  supposed to be happy, safe, and thriving at school and
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  they're miserable, uneasy, anxious, all these different things that make
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  things way harder. So I do recognize that Grateful is
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  the right word for the situation we're in currently. And
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  we hope it stays that way. But there's a lot
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  of empathy for people that don't have the situation. Because
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  I can imagine it being incredibly hard as a kid
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  that hated school. And then watching my mom be destroyed
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  by it was like... And granted, it's a couple of weeks.
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  And it's easy to explain to the kid because it
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  does feel like your whole world. Because at the time
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  it is. It's all you know.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that happens in school, especially in high school, feels
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  like the biggest.
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  Speaker 3: Deal ever, good or bad.
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  Speaker 2: Can I tell you a random story about that too?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: So we, um, so school started in Florida, like I
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  think the second week of August or so.
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  Speaker 2: And that first week was brutal.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, don't know anybody super awkward, sitting by yourself,
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  trying to find like a space and whatever. Then basketball starts.
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  I've probably mentioned this before. We started off season training.
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  Like our high school coach treated it like a college program.
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  Football players would play football. If you were only a
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  basketball player, you were expected to start conditioning and you
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  had to make it through all the conditioning just to be,
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  that was like a trial.
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  Speaker 2: It's like an eight week.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you don't make it through conditioning, the last
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  three weeks of it were 5am runs, 5am workouts before school.
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  That's the weeding out process. You can't even get to
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  tryouts if you can't do that. So I was excited
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  for this to start just because I wanted to play it.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to hoop.
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  Speaker 3: Soon as we played the first day, all of a sudden,
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  all these guys didn't want to talk to me. They're like, oh,
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  he's good. And then my whole life changed. And I'm like, okay,
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  this is all BS. So I had a bitterness towards
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  some people and high school in general from the very jump.
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  But on this thing about feel like your whole world,
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  so Devin just had gone to the Air Force Academy.
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  And he went to the Air Force Academy prep school first.
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  He had the When your grades aren't good enough to
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  get right in, they'll put you in the prep school.
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  If you do well there, then you kind of graduate
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  into the actual academy. So he goes to the prep school.
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  He's playing on the prep school football team. We're flying
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  out there for parents weekend. So it's the first weekend
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  of September. So again, I'm still in this very awkward
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  state at school. I think I missed a Friday of
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  school or something like that. We fly out to Colorado Springs.
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  I hadn't been out there before.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful place. Side note, Devin was already in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: He had to wear this purple hat when he walked around,
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  which signified he did something really bad in his first
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  couple of weeks. So he was already like on a list,
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  which my parents were really excited about.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: They were so like, this is never, this is unbelievable.
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  But anyway, we get to go to the football game.
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  They get all the kids, all the parents take all
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  their family's tickets. Do you wear the purple hat in
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  the football game? Do you have a purple helmet?
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  Speaker 2: No, he was not.
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  Speaker 3: He was the prep school football team. So he wasn't,
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  this is the real academy team. So watching the actual
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  big game at the stadium. I think they play Colorado State. Anyway,
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  The long story short of all of this is we
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  are at 7,000 feet.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Your boy's real fair skinned. He didn't wear any sunscreen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So we watched this whole game the next day. My
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  nose is so bright red. Like I looked like Rudolph.
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  It was ridiculous. It was so red. We're putting all
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  these things on it. We're going to fly home on
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  Sunday and it just looks ridiculous. And my mom's like,
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  I'm going back to school on Monday. And I'm like,
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  I look insane. My mom's trying to put this stuff
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  on me. And you're a freshman. Freshman, yeah. At the time,
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  I'm 5'10, 5'11, 125 pounds. It was just an awkward
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  looking dude with a sweet, gumby, huge fro. Anyway, I
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  got my nose literally falling off. It's starting to peel.
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  It looks terrible. And I went into school and literally
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  like half my nose was falling off my face.
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  Speaker 2: My mom could tell it, don't pull it off.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like just walking around with like loose skin
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  on my nose. It's so bad to the point where like,
• 15:25
  I mean, I'm like, my head is buried. I'm like
• 15:26
  so shamed. I'm just walking around to school. And like
• 15:29
  in second period, somebody's like, take that off your face.
• 15:31
  Like it was like, I was in with older, with
• 15:33
  like seniors. It was like, cause it was like a
• 15:34
  home ec class. So it had all four grades in there.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Off your face.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: So I was like hanging on my throat. So I
• 15:42
  was like pulling my nose off. It was so bad.
• 15:45
  Like I was more, I went home and I was
• 15:47
  like more mad at my mom. I'm like, do you
• 15:49
  know what it was like to go with your mom today?
• 15:50
  Like so pissed at her. And of course she was like,
• 15:52
  I told you to wear sunscreen. I told you to
• 15:54
  put sunblock on.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: You didn't do it. Not good. Clearly I'm not scarred
• 15:59
  by this at all.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I can't believe I've never heard that story actually. All
• 16:02
  the time that we spent outside putting sunscreen on each other.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Nose falling off.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: It's awful.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: It's just Disgusting.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Disgusting.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It is hard in like school and high school and
• 16:12
  you just worry about everybody else.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was like in a group at Charleston
• 16:16
  and lived there my whole life. So I always knew everybody,
• 16:19
  always had family in school ahead of me, aunts and
• 16:23
  uncles and cousins and grandparents picking me up and supporting us.
• 16:27
  I can't imagine what it was like to start over.
• 16:30
  And I... I don't know where it came from that
• 16:35
  made me be empathetic, but I told Lyra something that
• 16:37
  I saw the other day that I thought was really cool.
• 16:40
  And it was this video of this mom, literally, since
• 16:43
  her girls were probably maybe in elementary school. It might've
• 16:47
  been early middle school. It was their first day of
• 16:49
  school every day. And she just said the first time
• 16:51
  they got out the door- I mean, got out of
• 16:54
  the car to go to school. She just said randomly
• 16:56
  to them, be a friend to those who don't have friends.
• 17:00
  And she said it was just something that she said.
• 17:02
  She hadn't thought about it. And then it became the
• 17:04
  thing that she said to them every year. So it
• 17:05
  was this cute montage of every year, be a friend.
• 17:08
  And they'd be like, to those who don't have them.
• 17:10
  And I just thought it was such a cool... mantra
• 17:14
  and just way to think bigger picture. Because especially when
• 17:19
  you get older and things get more clicky and people
• 17:22
  think the cool kids or the not cool kids or whatever,
• 17:25
  I think having that empathy to just be kind to
• 17:31
  someone else just goes such a long way. I don't know.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: It just makes me think back to high.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: School and there were people in there that in some
• 17:39
  of my classes and some of my broadcast classes that
• 17:42
  I just remember really trying to befriend because they were
• 17:46
  kind of people that were always a little bit more alone.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure you can relate.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you did the same thing and that you
• 17:52
  were always just befriending everybody.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Well, after this experience, I did. No, I learned.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I was never like that when I was in, because
• 18:00
  everybody knew me and I was comfortable and I never
• 18:02
  was out of my comfort zone in that regard. But
• 18:04
  then I went to high school and like my mom,
• 18:06
  like Brian House, who's still friends with him, got to
• 18:09
  see him last summer. Last year, we had to play
• 18:11
  golf together when I was down there doing American Cancer
• 18:13
  Society event.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: He's my first friend there.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: My mom, if you mention houses, like you say, like,
• 18:19
  you know, house said hi, she'd like lights up because
• 18:21
  that was one of the first people that made me
• 18:23
  feel Like I had a friend.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: In the world. Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And I can't imagine what that felt like as a parent.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: And yeah, that was like, and that she carries that
• 18:29
  with her because that made, helped my life start to
• 18:32
  get better after the first like week or two of school.
• 18:34
  And he was always kind from the beginning. We didn't run,
• 18:36
  we didn't cross paths until that second week playing basketball.
• 18:39
  And he was never rude and mean before. We didn't
• 18:41
  really cross paths, but that he's, yeah, like my first friend.
• 18:44
  And I think that helps me settle you in. And
• 18:47
  then as I went through school, like I said, right away,
• 18:49
  I thought like high school is kind of BS. So yes,
• 18:51
  if there were people, I wouldn't try to be a
• 18:53
  prick to people anymore for sure. But if people were
• 18:55
  like coming on the bass team or new, I was always,
• 18:57
  I thought trying to be like, yo, let's, you know,
• 19:00
  don't be an asshole for lack of a better term. Now,
• 19:02
  if that person's an asshole, then by all means fire away. Um,
• 19:06
  But I do think that that transition at a young
• 19:09
  age definitely taught me a few things and that I
• 19:12
  wasn't carrying with me before.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: On top of that, going into that school, we had 2,500
• 19:15
  people there. Like that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: My college had 3,000 undergrad. Like it was a huge...
• 19:21
  How many were in your graduating class in high school?
• 19:23
  And our graduating class was like 480 or something like that. Yeah,
• 19:27
  I think we were like 380. But Dana's class... So
• 19:29
  Dana was three years younger than me. Like that's when
• 19:31
  the school kept getting even bigger because her class was
• 19:33
  like 690. So by the time I... It was crazy.
• 19:36
  It was, you know, like 24, 25, 24 people, 100
• 19:39
  people there. By the time I left, it was like
• 19:40
  28 or something like that because we were trying to
• 19:41
  grow some of the younger classes. But it was a
• 19:45
  huge place. And I do think, yeah, it taught me
• 19:49
  a lot at a young age. I think also that
• 19:52
  a lot of the stuff that you think is important
• 19:54
  really isn't important.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But it's still hard to process that. I don't think
• 19:58
  I realized that. I think to me, everything, especially in
• 20:01
  high school, just felt so big and dramatic and like
• 20:06
  life altering, whether it was good or bad and making
• 20:10
  teams or, you know, what happened with this friend or
• 20:13
  this drama or this boyfriend. Maybe I was just like
• 20:16
  a dramatic person in general.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Is that funny? It's true.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That's why it's fun.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, but yeah, I just felt like sometimes you're like,
• 20:29
  you lived and died by like what happened.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Like it was going to be, the end of the world.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It makes me wonder, just more bigger picture because I
• 20:38
  do feel like, and it's not middle schoolers and it's
• 20:41
  maybe high schoolers, definitely the college age kids that I
• 20:45
  feel like are so much more in touch with their
• 20:48
  feelings and their emotions and what they want and speaking
• 20:51
  up and standing up for themselves. I wonder if that
• 20:55
  translate to kids in high school and looking out for
• 20:58
  each other more, if it still just is like, clicky
• 21:01
  and groupy and potentially mean or I don't know. I
• 21:05
  hope that it's a more open-minded experience for.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Everyone?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: The things you read, I mean, that's why I think
• 21:13
  this is this, we don't need to get on a
• 21:14
  legal soapbox, but the meta lawsuit and what happens there
• 21:17
  in terms of age-gating social media, at least there are
• 21:20
  two platforms, Instagram and Facebook. I mean, Instagram is more
• 21:22
  their world, obviously. But if that, in fact, impacts Snapchat,
• 21:26
  TikTok as well, if they have to do that, I
• 21:27
  think that's important because what you hear now is not
• 21:29
  the bullying as much in person, it's all the cyberbullying
• 21:32
  and ostracizing people online, which really has a much broader reach.
• 21:35
  Like when you think about something big, like if one
• 21:37
  person's being a prick to you, in homeroom or something
• 21:40
  like that. It's dealing with that person. There are times
• 21:42
  you don't want to walk in that class. You don't
• 21:44
  want to see that person. You don't want to deal
• 21:45
  with that person. But when you're not around them physically,
• 21:47
  it's over. Now that person is organizing a group to
• 21:53
  dislike you at all points in time, to essentially harass you.
• 21:55
  So I think there is, while what you said seems true,
• 21:59
  there are people in our society too, it's much more comfortable.
• 22:02
  Part of what we're doing this for and doing this
• 22:04
  in general is to express our emotions and what we're
• 22:07
  thinking and what we're feeling and what we're going through,
• 22:09
  hopefully that has cascaded to the younger generations of our society.
• 22:14
  The problem with that is if you are more open
• 22:16
  and you are more feeling and you are more willing
• 22:17
  to communicate, when that deluge of stuff is coming at
• 22:21
  you negatively, especially online, I'm sure that feels just insurmountable.
• 22:26
  And that's not a good thing. So yes, how social
• 22:29
  media operates in this space is concerning, although I do
• 22:32
  hope and think that kids are different now than we were.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They're in a whole different world. It seems like way
• 22:37
  more hard.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about the social media
• 22:41
  era for kids and what that will be like when kids,
• 22:46
  I mean, there's first. So like when other kids, her age,
• 22:50
  whatever age they start, you know, some parents start letting
• 22:52
  them have social media and phones and stuff.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I think we're lucky. Because I think we're already seeing
• 22:58
  the negatives right now. It's the parents that had to
• 23:00
  navigate the last 12 or 14 years.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are still going to be so many
• 23:05
  parents that are willing and ready to do that before
• 23:09
  we think we're willing and ready.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: There will be, I'm sure. I guess my thing is
• 23:14
  I hope that... Lyra's seven going on eight. By the
• 23:17
  time she's 12, going on 13. Jonathan Haidt's book, Ancestor,
• 23:21
  your generation will almost be a decade old now. There's
• 23:23
  a ton of research out there. There's going to be
• 23:24
  like these legal things where they're age gating. Other countries
• 23:27
  have banned social media, Australia under 16. Are we going
• 23:31
  to recognize the damage this is doing?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And will we?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: No, because we're a selfish country that wants to make
• 23:36
  money and Well, this is the difference.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Prop ourselves up and have platforms. But we aren't making
• 23:41
  any money. If you're a big creator, yes, you're making money.
• 23:44
  But that's also not necessarily what's impacting their bottom line
• 23:48
  for the content creators.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: It's for brands.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: The brands, who they can advertise, who they can reach to,
• 23:53
  how they can cause an ongoing algorithmic... They're going to
• 23:56
  turn off the algorithm, supposedly. They're going to do all
• 23:57
  these things. That's starting now. And hopefully, it happens. My hope,
• 24:01
  and this is really blind hope, is the next four
• 24:04
  or five years, society starts to go in this place like,
• 24:06
  this is much better. How do we all continue to
• 24:09
  focus on this and make this an important thing in
• 24:12
  our community and other communities? And I think if you
• 24:13
  talk with other parents, this is where you're part about
• 24:16
  the phone and now they have... The tin can, which
• 24:18
  operates like an old house phone now, but you have
• 24:21
  to have another tin can in other families' homes. I
• 24:23
  talked about this with people I worked with the other day.
• 24:24
  And they're like, yeah, we got one. We had other
• 24:26
  eight friends get them. Nobody uses them. But my thing
• 24:30
  is there's an attempt to solve the problem. There's that.
• 24:33
  Apple now is in a situation where you can now
• 24:35
  buy an iPhone... And you can just deactivate all the
• 24:38
  apps right away. And then they can't see they even exist.
• 24:41
  It's not that they can't click on it. They don't
• 24:43
  know they exist. So if you just have the phone
• 24:45
  and you just have a text and you start there
• 24:47
  or just a phone, like maybe that allows... They're solving
• 24:49
  their own problem, mind you, but that's a business problem
• 24:51
  for Apple that they may have solved and succeeded.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Well, and they've had phones like that before that are
• 24:55
  like child phones that are like, here's the four numbers
• 24:57
  you can call and the.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I think the difference with whatever the Apple's trying to
• 25:01
  roll out here is like literally it's the full phone.
• 25:03
  You then get to upload stuff that they didn't know
• 25:06
  even exist. If as they get older, you can, you
• 25:08
  can create the device that they will have into adulthood,
• 25:11
  which makes sense. But the problem is before you just
• 25:15
  had all the shit they could see, excuse me. And
• 25:18
  I guess it's, I don't know if it really solves
• 25:19
  the problem. I guess it's all these efforts and parents
• 25:22
  awareness and seeing the negative impacts and, that maybe we
• 25:25
  become the beneficiaries a little bit where it's not as
• 25:28
  an onslaught or the wild west where kids are just
• 25:30
  going through it as they are now. And at the
• 25:32
  last 10 plus years where you don't know the effects,
• 25:35
  you don't know the addiction, you don't know the negative repercussions,
• 25:38
  you know, the suicide rates.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: We know all that now, but people didn't know that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And those parents were navigating that totally by themselves, essentially,
• 25:46
  and not wanting to be the parents that didn't let their,
• 25:47
  which is not let their kids be part of it,
• 25:50
  which has its own challenges. So I, I feel like
• 25:53
  almost like kind of fortunate where we are relative to
• 25:55
  what other people went through.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're optimistic here. That is interesting. As I
• 26:01
  sit here more pessimistic, I feel like usually like depending
• 26:03
  on the situation, because I just think like, if not this,
• 26:06
  then like, what's the next thing, you know, there's always
• 26:08
  a next thing.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And that was part of like, that's part of this,
• 26:12
  not to go back to the suit so much, but
• 26:14
  part of the suits is $ 17. 1 billion settlement. Now granted
• 26:18
  Meta's quarterly revenue is $ 60 billion. So they'll be fine.
• 26:21
  But the situation is they're going to give $ 12 billion now.
• 26:25
  The other five are if TikTok, Snapchat, and other future
• 26:29
  users choose to do this. The thing that's hard is like,
• 26:33
  all right, if you're TikTok and you don't do it,
• 26:35
  and then Meta puts their full weight into obscuring you
• 26:38
  from a PR campaign to not do it. does that
• 26:41
  get it done? Is there federal legislation actually just gets
• 26:43
  it done? Are we talking about college football and eligibility
• 26:46
  or what? It's actually a.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Much easier case than this, ironically. But if you have.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: But you better get on the same page.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: You're going to be sued.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: If you have a situation with the cigarette companies or
• 26:58
  tobacco companies, that's kind of akin to this. And eventually
• 27:01
  there's advertising restrictions, there's this restrictions, and then eventually there's
• 27:04
  a lot of federal legislation. So if it goes that route,
• 27:07
  then maybe we have a shot.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I like to be positive in this because it's a,
• 27:13
  I think it's something that I think about ironically a lot,
• 27:15
  like how parents are navigating this right now and the
• 27:16
  effects it has on kids.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: As I sit here and I say out loud, stop scrolling.
• 27:20
  Like what is wrong?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: After like six minutes, I get mad at myself. But
• 27:23
  you imagine if you're 15, And just like an hour
• 27:26
  would go by like, yeah, I don't even.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Think it's just the scrolling.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's like the, the dopamine hits they get
• 27:32
  from likes and from posts and then stressing about all
• 27:35
  of it. I mean, like we do it as adults,
• 27:37
  like as you're trying to figure out what's going to like,
• 27:41
  what you're going to post or what the caption is
• 27:43
  or how it resonates with the audience that you're looking,
• 27:45
  especially if it is like a, a brand or business
• 27:49
  standpoint where you're trying to grow something. Um, and to
• 27:53
  have a underdeveloped, you know, not fully developed brain and
• 27:57
  you're still trying to figure out who you are and
• 27:59
  what matters and all these things.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: And yet you're worried about likes and check marks.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I just, yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Um, I do not envy what parents have had to
• 28:08
  do in the last couple of years. And I hope
• 28:10
  I love optimistic gallon. I hope that it's, it's better
• 28:13
  by the time that it rolls around for us to
• 28:16
  look at my optimistic husband over there.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Are you so optimistic and feeling good? Cause we got
• 28:21
  a vacation together.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: That actually feels like six months ago already. So I'm
• 28:26
  glad we got to do it. It was amazing. I
• 28:29
  will say this. Optimistic Dallin was also hands-off Dallin. I
• 28:33
  didn't do much of the planning here. That's a great point.
• 28:35
  And you killed it, babe. I was very impressed. You
• 28:39
  found the two spots we were staying in. You kind
• 28:42
  of laid out the itinerary, minus logistics of stuff. That
• 28:46
  was more my role, but you nailed it. Well, logistics.
• 28:48
  Like we need to leave here by here. We got
• 28:50
  to be here by here because we're going there type stuff.
• 28:52
  Just real nuts and bolts. But you laid it all
• 28:55
  out there. The place we stayed at west of out
• 28:58
  in Half Moon Bay was just unbelievable. And it really
• 29:03
  felt like a slow... But the days didn't... It seems
• 29:07
  like forever ago, like I said. but the time didn't
• 29:10
  seem to fly by.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Like, I feel like we really got to- It was
• 29:12
  only four days, but they were like full of days.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But it didn't feel like they were full of us
• 29:16
  always doing stuff.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: And it just felt like we got to be together
• 29:19
  a lot and spend a lot of time just being together,
• 29:22
  which was awesome. And you did a great job and
• 29:24
  it was a phenomenal experience. Napa was really cool my
• 29:26
  first time there. So, maybe more vacations ahead of us, babe.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You can plan.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because a couple of times that we
• 29:34
  were there, like you pointed that out, you were like, wow,
• 29:38
  you did this.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I didn't interject and like, look what happened.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I'm just going to take
• 29:45
  off the captain hat for a little while.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: It was funny.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I went back to work yesterday.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody there, makeup girls and all in
• 29:51
  like legitimately months because the only shows I've done have been.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: On the road.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And they were like, oh my God, your trip looks
• 29:58
  so beautiful.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Was that Scotland?
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Were you in Ireland?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It looked like it, yeah.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, we were in California. And
• 30:03
  they're like, no, you were not in California. What are
• 30:05
  you talking about?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: What are you like?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Everybody thought that we were somewhere else.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just the bagpiper that
• 30:11
  really sold it for everybody.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: That's definitely it, babe.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I forgot that the seven o'clock bagpiper that walked around
• 30:16
  the property, that's what made it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I think you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: See all of it and then you see the bagpiper.
• 30:20
  I had one friend message and be like, oh my God,
• 30:23
  is this Scotland?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: We're flying out tomorrow.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Where are you guys?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: And I was like, We're about a 10 hour flight
• 30:28
  from Scotland.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: A taste of Scotland from an American perspective. I thought
• 30:33
  the trip was really good too. I think it's just,
• 30:36
  it was another good reminder. And I don't think it's like,
• 30:39
  not that we didn't know it or need it, but
• 30:41
  like how important it is to make time for each
• 30:45
  other and to prioritize each other. because life's busy. The summer,
• 30:49
  as we said, is flying by. The fall is going
• 30:52
  to be insane, which leads into basketball season, which just
• 30:55
  one thing leads to the next and then it's crazy.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: And we didn't have full days. We didn't have hard and.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Fast plans other than some set times that we were
• 31:06
  going to be at different vineyards. Other than that, it
• 31:09
  was kind of like some ideas and this is what
• 31:11
  we're going to do and these are the things that
• 31:12
  we want to do and see. But I feel like
• 31:14
  It gave us so much time to relax and to
• 31:17
  talk and to connect and just to be. And there
• 31:23
  aren't a lot of times right now where I feel
• 31:25
  like we just get to be. It's like on the
• 31:29
  couch at the end of the night when we're watching
• 31:31
  a show or I'm falling asleep on the couch or
• 31:34
  we're watching something in bed and we're falling asleep because
• 31:36
  we're too tired.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I just.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I think for me, it was just a good reminder
• 31:43
  of how important it is that we always do that.
• 31:46
  And then the other side of it is, you know,
• 31:48
  everything always comes back to days, but just, just kidding.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: How grateful, like.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: He stays with my parents and I don't have like
• 31:59
  a worry in the world.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I know he's happy. I know he's well taken care of.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I know he's loved.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I know he's going to see a billion people that
• 32:05
  he's going to be so excited to play with. And like,
• 32:08
  what a luxury that is to have. family that will
• 32:11
  do that. And not just my parents. Literally, one of
• 32:14
  the first days that we were there, my mom needed
• 32:18
  to go to work. They're juggling a million different things.
• 32:20
  And two of my best friends are like, oh, we'll
• 32:22
  have days. One of them, I work from home. Oh,
• 32:25
  I'll pick him up after my daughter's appointment. And they
• 32:28
  hang out with him all day. My cousins, my aunts
• 32:30
  and uncle, everybody's just... The way people step up is
• 32:34
  so cool. And It's something that I don't take for granted,
• 32:38
  the ability to like, because I wouldn't be able to
• 32:41
  fully enjoy being somewhere if I was like having to
• 32:45
  worry about like, was he okay?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And was he happy?
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: And like, you don't have to worry about it. And
• 32:49
  that's a luxury too. I don't even think about it.
• 32:52
  I'll tell you what, that's why we got to go
• 32:53
  back to the in-laws of the year. They're the best.
• 32:55
  I've said it many times, I've hit the lottery. Like
• 32:57
  they're fantastic. They love him. They care for him. But
• 33:00
  it's also that whole environment.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: There's a whole different village down there of people that
• 33:04
  are dying, not just will take, I'm like, are one
• 33:07
  to see him, one to play with him, one to
• 33:08
  have time with him, one to get to know him.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Like go out of their way just to come over
• 33:11
  and say, hey, which is so nice.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: He's just super well taken care of. Hence why I
• 33:15
  say with a smile on my face, like, yeah, I
• 33:16
  don't need to think about like, what's he doing?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It's like, he's having fun.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Like he's having a great time, whatever he's doing, having
• 33:21
  a great time, which is awesome and a complete luxury.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm very grateful for that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: You did say, as you were talking about the trip,
• 33:31
  one thing that came to mind, I want to go
• 33:33
  back Do you realize you like, you like laid out
• 33:36
  how great it was. And then you did say, and I,
• 33:38
  I can feel it. Like I literally felt it when
• 33:40
  you're like, well, we have football and the football isn't
• 33:42
  a basketball. And I felt like my body, like the
• 33:44
  anxiety just washed over me. Like, Oh my God, there's
• 33:46
  so much shit ahead.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Cause it's true.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Like part of why we obviously wanted to prioritize and
• 33:51
  do it is looking ahead. And this is another thing,
• 33:53
  as you know, very well, our audience doesn't, when I
• 33:56
  get to the last like 36 hours of a vacation, hard. hard.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I am laboring.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: It's something that should be studied. I'm laboring through it.
• 34:04
  I really enjoy my time off. And then when I
• 34:06
  know it's coming to an end, I get really bummed out.
• 34:09
  I still enjoy the time we're there, but I feel
• 34:11
  like I'm almost counting down the hours and I get
• 34:13
  very wistful and a little sad.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Very sad. Very sad. But when you.
• 34:19
  Here's the point. Here's the point.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I think until April, the second weekend of April, I
• 34:26
  think we might have one Saturday off.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: We're both off together. Let's just think about that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: How?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: It's pretty right. I think it might be the one
• 34:34
  before Christmas. Seems like the most likely. Other than that,
• 34:38
  we are... And then we always have kids and we're
• 34:41
  doing other things. But I'm saying just look at it
• 34:42
  like a weekend. Look at that concept. That does wash
• 34:46
  over me in a certain way that it's like, here
• 34:48
  we go. And it's a long run and it's fun.
• 34:50
  And we love our job. We're not digging ditches. It's
• 34:52
  just the amount of stuff that will happen and reading
• 34:55
  and watching. There's always these things. Whereas for those four days...
• 35:00
  We didn't have to do anything. And that was probably
• 35:02
  what I loved the most about the trip. We, me
• 35:05
  and you together, didn't have to do anything. We got
• 35:07
  to do whatever we wanted to do, which is such
• 35:09
  a rarity right now. And I think so appreciated. And
• 35:12
  let's say I'm excited for next mid-April already.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I think when we're in it, when you're in the season,
• 35:18
  you're not like, oh, it's another Saturday or, oh, only
• 35:21
  14 more Saturdays to go or whatever it is. Because
• 35:25
  like you said, we're not digging ditches. We love what
• 35:27
  we get to do. It's a Blessing to get to
• 35:31
  call talking about sports or covering sports or being at
• 35:34
  games like a job.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: It really is.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: So when we're in it, I don't feel it as much.
• 35:39
  I think it's the like looking ahead to it or
• 35:42
  like the as soon as you get out of it
• 35:45
  where it feels a lot heavier. Now, the flip side
• 35:48
  of that is I just had a summer where I
• 35:49
  barely had to work. I've always said with this particular
• 35:52
  job with ACC Network, it's kind of like a teacher
• 35:54
  because you do get a lot of time off in
• 35:57
  the summer. We have a producer who used to work
• 35:59
  on SportsCenter who works with us now. And I just
• 36:02
  saw her yesterday. She did my show and she was like,
• 36:04
  this is... I mean, I've worked here for how long?
• 36:06
  I've never had anything like this.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I actually like had time in the summer to do things.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And so I think it's real easy to get caught
• 36:14
  up in the, like, oh gosh, all the things I
• 36:17
  have to do and to like lose sight of that
• 36:19
  sometimes because it is a really long season. Like football,
• 36:22
  it's football and then basketball climbs on top of that.
• 36:24
  And then as soon as football ends, all of a
• 36:26
  sudden all eyes are actually on basketball, which I do
• 36:29
  wonder if they'll ever push basketball back just to have
• 36:32
  all eyes on them sooner.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Just real quick on that. Do you realize the Superbowl,
• 36:36
  first of all, you know what day the Superbowl is?
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Did I tell you this the other day?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Valentine's Day.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Valentine's Day.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: So our next weekend, without any football, because football starts
• 36:43
  this weekend, is February 20th of 2027. Which is wild
• 36:47
  to think about that. And the college football championship is
• 36:52
  later this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Year, too. January 25th, yeah. So it's just... It's wild. So, yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And I do think the harder piece for me, honestly,
• 36:58
  is football is... I mean, yes, I'm not as involved.
• 37:02
  It's less of a beast for me. But the thing
• 37:04
  that wears my basketball... I don't know.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: You're going to be pretty involved this year.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: I will be.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I've always talked about it on Sirius
• 37:08
  or had a different show.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Seeing you're literally going to be on flights across the country.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: That's a lot. We're going to be doing stuff.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'll be working for the USA Network on Pac-12 sports.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering if you were going to say
• 37:19
  that out loud.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So for Pac-12 football, which Pac-12 is back.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So we'll be doing eight games on the road over
• 37:24
  the next 15 weeks or 13 weeks, whatever it is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: When you load in basketball, the thing is about basketball
• 37:29
  is every freaking night except for like three from November
• 37:32
  2nd till March, till April 5th or something like that.
• 37:36
  So that's the thing for me is being aware and
• 37:38
  watching as much and knowing as much. I will say this,
• 37:40
  which will be helpful though, honestly. With both the kids
• 37:42
  being in school early in the morning, like in the
• 37:45
  morning now too, I'll get that time back to watch
• 37:47
  Synergy and stuff and watch film during the morning, whereas
• 37:51
  it's not as important. I maybe don't have to spend
• 37:53
  as much time each night watching it. That actually, when
• 37:55
  I think about that, is a little more... almost a
• 37:57
  little bit of relief to think about that. I'll have
• 37:59
  a few hours, most in theory to, to, to do
• 38:03
  work unencumbered by days is craziness to like lock in
• 38:07
  on stuff that may not require me to watch as
• 38:09
  much the night before, unless I'm talking about the next morning.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Cause it's better to go through and synergy.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: You're going through a quicker anyway, cuts out all the commercials,
• 38:14
  cuts all the dead balls. Like you are flying through
• 38:17
  games relative to watching them live.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: No, I, I, I'm curious how that plays out in actuality.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Um, He's skeptical, not curious, but go ahead.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: The games will still be on, but being as concerned
• 38:32
  about them is different.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: We'll see what that looks like. It will be interesting
• 38:36
  to have mornings where it's.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Not like, you have the baby, I have the baby.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Kelsey, go upstairs because he chills better. Just the flow
• 38:46
  of things, I think, is going to be good for us.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, think about some of these Thursdays or Fridays where, yeah, well,
• 38:55
  you can take him to school, Four hours, you know?
• 38:59
  And then, you know, you come back and you can
• 39:01
  pick him up from school.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: You'll nap him.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: By the time I come home, he's awake. I hardly
• 39:04
  missed any day's time. Like, isn't that amazing? That's so amazing. God,
• 39:08
  September could be cool. And then you're just going to
• 39:10
  be there with him the rest.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Of the day.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I will. Where's the argument?
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: How old does he have to be before you take
• 39:19
  him to the golf course with you?
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: My hope is not hope of the plan, I guess
• 39:24
  would be next spring. I think we need to start
• 39:27
  going to the driving range. So that would be cool.
• 39:29
  I think we need to get him actual.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Clubs.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: He can swing. I got the plastic ones. Like there's
• 39:32
  little bit like clubs. Cause he already likes to swing
• 39:34
  his swing. I was going to say swing his thing.
• 39:37
  But anyway, I digress.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Uh, he likes to swing the clubs.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: He can't swing in a bank right now.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Swing in his clubs.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Um, But those Placid ones, yeah, I think next spring
• 39:47
  we should go to the driving range and see if
• 39:48
  we can get him to... The hardest part right now
• 39:49
  is to get him to stand there and swing the club.
• 39:52
  He's not able to control himself enough to do that.
• 39:54
  But next time when he's three years old or close
• 39:56
  to three, I think he could take command better.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's doing it in our living room where
• 40:00
  there's like a million different toys and obstacles.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: When we go outside with that net, like just to
• 40:04
  get him to line up to hit the ball and
• 40:06
  go get it like... We made progress the other day.
• 40:09
  He actually hit the ball into the net. I don't
• 40:11
  care directionally where it goes. But then went and got it,
• 40:13
  put it back, set himself up, and swung it again
• 40:16
  versus hitting it and then just smacking it in any direction.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Crazy. You can't do that in driving range.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: You're going to have to.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: If he can just do those things and just simply
• 40:24
  stay on the mat and swing that way, then he
• 40:26
  can go.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to un-teach him how to go
• 40:29
  get the ball if he's taking it to the driving range.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, that'd be really easy.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: You just show him. Just like, you don't need to go.
• 40:33
  Ball's gone.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Don't touch it. You're good.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It'll be fine.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Then he'll be like me where it's like, well, I
• 40:39
  kind of topped it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: It's only right there. I can grab that one.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: What's your hope for the kids this school year?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: For Dace, it's just to like, I would say, enjoy
• 40:53
  his time and continue to grow and just like have...
• 40:56
  That's what I think is interesting about being a parent
• 40:58
  to a young kid is you are... trying to impart,
• 41:02
  particularly with him, I think there's kindness and empathy and
• 41:07
  happiness and joy and lust for learning and reading and
• 41:11
  all these things that are important. But there are so
• 41:14
  many things he picks up from other people in terms
• 41:16
  of how they do things or how they conduct themselves
• 41:18
  or just socializing him too. Like helping him operate within
• 41:21
  a class setting, which he does a good job of now.
• 41:24
  He's pretty good in his daycare situation and stuff like that.
• 41:26
  But just to see him grow in ways that we've
• 41:31
  you know maybe we couldn't have pushed him there on
• 41:33
  our own or he just gets there on on his
• 41:35
  own within a different environment i think is cool um
• 41:39
  so for me for him it's just to continue to
• 41:40
  grow and like and to thrive in an environment where
• 41:42
  he's comfortable like learning to be himself with other kids
• 41:45
  and make new friends i think it's exciting when he
• 41:47
  talks about some of the people he knows i think
• 41:48
  it's kind of cool to see as he will actually
• 41:50
  like maybe begin to build friendships with certain kids in
• 41:54
  the class which is kind of interesting to see um
• 41:57
  For Lyra, it's to continue to enjoy school and be
• 42:02
  happy to go there every day and learn and continue
• 42:06
  to like... For me, my hope is that she continues
• 42:08
  to just get.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Don't want to get too obsessed with education, but her
• 42:13
  understanding of... For her to excel in the classroom, but
• 42:17
  also for us to keep teaching her stuff that exists
• 42:19
  beyond the classroom that she takes in, whether that's socialization,
• 42:22
  whether it's some history stuff, things that she gets older
• 42:24
  that I think are important for her to understand and
• 42:26
  know as she kind of comes around.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: You?
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Those are good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with Dace is I just like, I
• 42:36
  want him to enjoy it. And I'm really excited to
• 42:40
  see what comes out of it for him. He's at
• 42:43
  an age where it's so fun right now to see
• 42:45
  like what his brain comes up with. And to your point,
• 42:48
  being influenced by different people and being in different scenarios
• 42:51
  and learning more from others. I'm really excited to see
• 42:55
  what he takes from that. And then also, which friends
• 42:59
  he kind of gravitates to and see those friendships develop.
• 43:02
  Because right now, he's friends with the people that were
• 43:04
  friends with their kids. But when you're in more of
• 43:07
  a classroom setting, who becomes your best little buddy?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: So I think that'll be really cool.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: We're working on personal space and hopefully he doesn't try
• 43:16
  to kiss everybody on.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: The lips and hug everybody no matter what. We need
• 43:19
  to hammer that down the next couple of weeks.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I thought it was just the hugging. You got kissing
• 43:22
  issues too? Sometimes.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, on his second birthday party, he was open
• 43:28
  mouth kissing Belle.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: But then he went to go tell JJ and Ronan.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: By and he'll like grab their face and like try
• 43:33
  to do like, why are you giving me the cheek?
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: I am not trying.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: I guess I thought we got past the, I didn't
• 43:39
  think it was much. That was a couple of months ago.
• 43:40
  The hugging feel like that is hyper present right now.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: He loves that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: He loves that.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And then sometimes the hug turns into tackle because he
• 43:47
  gets too excited about it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: If it's another boy, he wants to wrestle. So that'll
• 43:51
  be interesting.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I think with Lyra, yeah, I want her to continue
• 43:54
  to love school and make new friends and continue learning
• 43:58
  and that be a big part. But I just, I
• 44:00
  want to see her continue to grow in her confidence too.
• 44:03
  I want her to be confident in who she is
• 44:06
  and all she knows and continue to just be like
• 44:10
  a leader too of like, my ideas are so important
• 44:14
  and what I think matters. And I want her to
• 44:17
  continue to feel that and be empowered by that and
• 44:22
  she's so kind and caring. I want her to keep,
• 44:24
  you know, being kind and caring and a good friend
• 44:27
  to all those around her because I feel like she
• 44:30
  is so good at that and just such a little empathetic,
• 44:34
  sweet child. But I'm excited to see all the ways
• 44:39
  she learns and grows.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, I don't know.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about on the podcast and
• 44:44
  we said it like last year before Christmas, it's like
• 44:46
  everything isn't going to stay so magical and special and
• 44:49
  little and princess and fairies forever. And I still hope
• 44:54
  that we get more years of that. I think we will.
• 44:59
  But I'm excited to see all the ways that she
• 45:02
  continues to grow and change and just be authentic to
• 45:08
  herself too.
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not trying to Yes, so when that
• 45:13
  shift starts to happen, that little girl becomes not so
• 45:16
  much a little girl anymore.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I hope they got us not to at least third grade.
• 45:19
  So we'll see if we get one more year at
• 45:20
  least would be great. All right, we got a couple
• 45:23
  of big weeks coming up. So I guess two weeks
• 45:27
  from now, we'll be back?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: We'll be back two weeks from now.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: You can get the full debrief on how much you cried,
• 45:32
  how we handled that first day at school.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Although this first day is like an hour and five
• 45:36
  minutes now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Doesn't matter.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Same.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to sit in the parking lot and
• 45:41
  cry the whole time as I pick him back up.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me explain. They're doing a tiered drop-off situation.
• 45:45
  And they're trying to get kids more comfortable. The first
• 45:47
  two days, it's like an hour and 20 minutes. Then
• 45:49
  the second two days, it's like two hours. Then the
• 45:51
  next two days, it's like two and a half. Then
• 45:53
  we get to the three hours and change or whatever
• 45:54
  it is. I was unaware of that. I thought we
• 45:56
  were just dropping him off on day one. It was
• 45:58
  full day. So that was a big shift for me.
• 46:00
  Went out.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: One hour, which to him is going to feel like nothing.
• 46:03
  He'll be good.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess they want him to want to keep
• 46:07
  coming back.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not disappointed. I'm not disagreeing with the assessment. I
• 46:11
  just was unaware of it until like a couple days ago.
• 46:13
  So we'll adjust accordingly. And you can wait in the
• 46:15
  parking lot the whole time. That's great.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Soft launch for days.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to be sitting right next to
• 46:18
  me holding my hand for that entire hour wiping my tears.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to be sick.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. Nice.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I'll be there, babe, to hold your hand and wipe
• 46:28
  your tears while Dace is inside. Yeah, wait.