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PGA DFS | The Open | 7/15/25 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Fall systems clear, we lift up What's up ever one
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of the PGA Show. Here on the ship at
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  Speaker 1: Nation YouTube station. Got my guy here, Hoopster with me
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  Speaker 1: as always, and we're breaking down the final major of
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  Speaker 1: the PGA season. We got the Open overseas, we had
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  Speaker 1: the Scottish Open last week, got the Open this week,
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  Speaker 1: and they got the three M Open now next week.
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  Speaker 1: Some people are excited about that, some not so much,
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  Speaker 1: but appreciate everybody being here. Do us a favor on
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  Speaker 1: the way in. Make sure to smash that like, subscribe
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  Speaker 1: to the channel Hoopster. We're just getting off a little
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  Speaker 1: business meeting. We're all fired up. We got some big,
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  Speaker 1: big things coming down the pipeline. You know. Someone called
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  Speaker 1: my our girl Kim actually from our discourse said TEASER's
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  Speaker 1: palace for Tambo's HQ in the backyard. But we love
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  Speaker 1: our teasers, but we only do it when it's really good.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what I always say.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it is crazy, like in terms of you
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  Speaker 2: know where we're at in the PGA season. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 2: last major just goes so fast, man, it just everything
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  Speaker 2: just goes fast. It is crazy. Life just just continues
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  Speaker 2: to go at a rapid pace. The older you get,
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  Speaker 2: the faster it goes. But yeah, major and that like
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  Speaker 2: the last major of the season. For me, it just
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  Speaker 2: means one thing. And that's like NFL is right around
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  Speaker 2: the corner. We're close and kind of in this industry
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  Speaker 2: is kind of see a pivot to NFL after the
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  Speaker 2: PGA Major. So we have some big announcements in regard
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  Speaker 2: to that today and in the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: We like you said, we just came off a business
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  Speaker 2: meeting and we're always looking. Man, I say it all
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  Speaker 2: the time, improve add on, I got to find one
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  Speaker 2: more word to go along with that, because I think
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  Speaker 2: the next thing is next level almost what we're kind
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  Speaker 2: of working on. You you're so very excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we always say it and then people make fun
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  Speaker 1: of it and then they come around to it. But
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  Speaker 1: the next thing, the August sixth. We put a date
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  Speaker 1: on it now, so everybody knows, mark your calendar is
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  Speaker 1: August sixth. The biggest announcement probably that we've ever made,
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  Speaker 1: at least as far as we're always transparent with people.
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  Speaker 1: The ad spend on this the marketing dollars behind it
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  Speaker 1: and for the community. This is definitely gonna be the
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  Speaker 1: biggest we've ever made, so we're super excited to announce that.
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  Speaker 1: But we did save up our marketing dollars who from
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  Speaker 1: as far as like the deposits we make with the people,
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  Speaker 1: so we haven't done much marketing. We're not going to
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  Speaker 1: do a ton today. We're just gonna hit high level
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  Speaker 1: quickly and then get right into the open doing it
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  Speaker 1: as usual. Well, bring up Saber, sim go through the builds.
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  Speaker 1: The pricing is atrocious this week, but we all play
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  Speaker 1: with the same pricing, so that's good. We'll go through
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  Speaker 1: all that and more, but real quick. Just want to
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  Speaker 1: direct you guys and let you know. So let me
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  Speaker 1: see here when we share the screen hoop. First things first,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to this one and what is it? This one?
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  Speaker 1: So it's up on the website now, so who've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it just so people could see it. The Early
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  Speaker 1: Birds special is back, so when golf ends, football is
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  Speaker 1: coming back, and we wanted to make sure this was
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. So we're gonna actually have a whole
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  Speaker 1: launch show for this next week and we'll cover it
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  Speaker 1: very quickly. Here because it truly is for the early birds,
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  Speaker 1: but three point forty nine all in for the entire
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  Speaker 1: NFL season. It's including saber sim. It's got college football included. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you're not paying extra tow hundred bucks on other sites,
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  Speaker 1: and it's got more to it than just that. So
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  Speaker 1: just to go through it for you guys quickly breaking
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  Speaker 1: it all down. This is the thing we showed last year.
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  Speaker 1: We'll show it again because everything's updated now we have sabersim.
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  Speaker 1: Other sites went up in price, some came down, but
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  Speaker 1: this is the breakdown of the market when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to NFL pricing. If you're gonna get in anyway, or
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  Speaker 1: if you're on the sidelines. More on this in a second.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some bone that are gonna save you some money.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why this is important. It's not just sales.
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  Speaker 1: There's money to be saved. Money saved is money made.
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  Speaker 1: Three forty nine is all in, that's everything, including Sabersim.
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  Speaker 1: You can actually get it for two ninety nine if
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  Speaker 1: you don't need an optimizer, but three forty nine is
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  Speaker 1: the best deal because it's less than ten bucks a
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  Speaker 1: month to add on the optimizer with Sabersim. Other competitors
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  Speaker 1: four forty nine, five nineteen, five ninety nine up to
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  Speaker 1: one thousand in some places to add both, So three
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  Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine dollars. We have five hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty nine dollars in early Bird bonuses. And this is
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  Speaker 1: how it breaks down, and this is key. First one.
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  Speaker 1: If you sign up for the early Bird bonus right now,
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  Speaker 1: you get free all access until NFL. That is the
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars a month plan with Saber that you
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  Speaker 1: get for two months up until September third, when football
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  Speaker 1: comes back. Meaning and no other site will do this
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  Speaker 1: for you, will tell you this. They want to keep
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  Speaker 1: all your money and sell it's bad business. We don't care.
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  Speaker 1: We tell you guys like it is every single time.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a PGA only member, you could literally cancel
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  Speaker 1: your PGA only membership right now. Sign up for the
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  Speaker 1: Early Bird because you're gonna be around for NFL anyway
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  Speaker 1: for the best savings possible. And you'll get all access
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  Speaker 1: for the summer for no charge. And you'll keep that
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  Speaker 1: seventy eighty ninety bucks whenever it is in your pocket.
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  Speaker 1: Depending I'll save the other one, the second one for last.
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  Speaker 1: The college football content free. So that is all the
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  Speaker 1: college football content on the site that we cover for
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  Speaker 1: those that were with us last year, and no it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward, but projections, ownership, the Stone Core Report, Player Pool,
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  Speaker 1: the Discord, all that updating by the way, with all
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  Speaker 1: the moves as things on the fly happen. People with
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  Speaker 1: the beat writers. All that stuff included. And then there's
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  Speaker 1: a mystery bonus which is part of the August sixth announcement.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it this way. It's not as good as
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  Speaker 1: a million maker win, but it's better than one hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars single entry ticket. So everybody that gets in the
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  Speaker 1: early bird bonus will get a mystery bonus item as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then lastly, sticking with the education and just making
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  Speaker 1: sure we got it all covered for here you guys,
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  Speaker 1: we created the NFL DFS Mega Course from DFS Mastermind.
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  Speaker 1: This is seven and a half hours of the best
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  Speaker 1: content related to NFL behind the scenes, everything covered. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get all that included, and then you also get
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  Speaker 1: three episodes of your choice for interviews from behind the Mind,
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  Speaker 1: so you're getting a bunch more value added on top.
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  Speaker 1: All this is included in the one package. If you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to check it out, go to the site
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  Speaker 1: right now, you can go to ship at nation dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Right in the top in that banner is the early
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  Speaker 1: Bird special hoop anything else I missed or anything else
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  Speaker 1: you want to cover there?
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  Speaker 3: Uh no, I mean obviously laid it out very well,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it's a situation mark and you know
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  Speaker 3: we want to get these plans out there.
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  Speaker 2: We want to provide our customer base with the most value,
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  Speaker 2: the most incentives, the most upside and man like, this
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  Speaker 2: is it getting now free all access all the way
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  Speaker 2: to NFL in our discord as well with sabersim the
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  Speaker 2: Mastermind package, like you talked about, it includes college football.
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  Speaker 2: Like sites are going to charge a crazy amount for
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  Speaker 2: college football. This is everything you need rolling into NFL
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  Speaker 2: plus more, plus more, plus more. It is an absolutely
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  Speaker 2: insane deal. No one's gonna be able to match it.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you. So if you have someone that you
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  Speaker 2: really like, a site in this industry and you say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: this is what ship a Nation's offering, they will not
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  Speaker 2: be able to come up with anything close to what
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  Speaker 2: we are offering. We would obviously love to have you.
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  Speaker 2: This price is obviously going to be going up. It
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  Speaker 2: is an early bird deal or what's six weeks away
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  Speaker 2: from NFL. But you know, again you're getting free all
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  Speaker 2: access at ship a Nation leading into NFL. It's insane deal.
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  Speaker 2: You know. If you are a PGA only member, like
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  Speaker 2: what you should be doing if you're planning on staying
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  Speaker 2: with us for NFL is cancel and subscribe to this package.
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  Speaker 2: So it's the best. There is excited obviously for NFL
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  Speaker 2: and everything that goes along with it. So it's it's
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  Speaker 2: we wanted to get it out early and provide just
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  Speaker 2: an insane amount of value to come along with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to handle one quickly. I'm not pulling
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  Speaker 1: it up for the screen purposes, but just to know
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  Speaker 1: people talking about like what tiers included, Like say, when
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  Speaker 1: you go to Sabersim, the starter package is ninety seven
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  Speaker 1: dollars a month. That is all sports. You can't get
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  Speaker 1: a single sport only. We have a specialized package at
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  Speaker 1: ship a Nation. They call it the Core Package, but
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  Speaker 1: it's everything you need. It's you build two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty lineup pool up to one hundred and fifty lineups
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  Speaker 1: that is included. So anybody who plays one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty lineups is still all good. If you wanted contest sims,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have any choice anywhere. It doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: site you're with. You have to go up to an
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  Speaker 1: ultimate package to get contest sims. So whether it's through
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  Speaker 1: another site, through US, through Sabersim, the only way to
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  Speaker 1: get contest SIMS is through that starter is if you
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  Speaker 1: want the additional items like contest flashback, the additional sports
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  Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But it's then it's a
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  Speaker 1: better deal with US for all access. It's a one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine dollars over here to get you
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  Speaker 1: all of that included. Other sites are charging one seventy
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  Speaker 1: five for the same thing. There is no SIMS with
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  Speaker 1: any site. To answer the question in the chat unless
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  Speaker 1: you go with Sabersim. With other competitors which you guys
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  Speaker 1: know who they are, and with US, you cannot get
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  Speaker 1: contest sims until you go to an ultimate package. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the main component. One hundred and fifty to hoops
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  Speaker 1: point right there. When you go to single sport, which
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  Speaker 1: you do get the Sabersim optimizer up to one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty lineups if you're paying for PGA only right
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  Speaker 1: now at fifty nine a month, that's one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty dollars towards your three forty nine package because you
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  Speaker 1: just get to cancel that right now, buy the three
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  Speaker 1: forty nine package, and you're in a good to go.
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  Speaker 1: So hope that helps you. Guys. We're not going to
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  Speaker 1: spend too much other time on it. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you get the free courses, you get all the benefits
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom, and the mystery bonus is big. August
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  Speaker 1: six will be the key. But that's that's something to
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  Speaker 1: remember for sure. Is you'll want to get in before
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  Speaker 1: August six. The prices are up on the website. You
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  Speaker 1: see them there, they're crossed out. The price will go
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  Speaker 1: up fifty bucks and then one hundred bucks. So right
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  Speaker 1: now is if you're already gonna do it, the chance
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  Speaker 1: to save the money and get the best deal possible.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and if you like the SIMS, you're already
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  Speaker 1: a SIMS customer. It doesn't make anything like nobody's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to offer it to you. That's just to
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  Speaker 1: clarifying that. So yeah, thank you for chiming in. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Who anything else you want to cover on this.
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  Speaker 1: If not, let's talk about the Open Man. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a good one. Final major of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously a big one. We got a little
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  Speaker 2: you know, preview of that sort of golf last week,
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  Speaker 2: you know, fun to watch. Got the time change, obviously
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  Speaker 2: if you're you know, in the US, it's you know, five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight hours different than you're used to. So it is, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's different obviously if you're gonna watch this, just
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  Speaker 2: your sleep schedule a little bit to get things aligned.
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  Speaker 2: But looking forward to it's always fun with these majors.
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  Speaker 2: You get the loaded fields, the pricing them, DraftKings, I
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  Speaker 2: think you kind of alluded to. It is kind of unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: I guess like they've they're really squandering, like the whole
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  Speaker 2: five k situation. Whenever there's a five k range, it
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  Speaker 2: really kind of it messes everything up. I have the
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  Speaker 2: drive run here, and if you understand the concepts behind
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  Speaker 2: the five K range, you can probably guess what the
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  Speaker 2: drive run is going to look like just based on
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  Speaker 2: projected score. Very easy. What I thought was gonna happen
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  Speaker 2: did happen. I built one dummy team manually, so easy
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  Speaker 2: and you know, like so easy to build the teams.
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  Speaker 2: If you're doing the five k, you got to bump
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  Speaker 2: everybody up. You can't just bump one guy. They've bumped
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  Speaker 2: one guy because they added the five carriage. Scotti Scheffler
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  Speaker 2: has a big boy price tag. Everybody no one else
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  Speaker 2: got like a big price jump. So mostly what we
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  Speaker 2: go through, I mean, regardless of everyone's playing the same slay.
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  Speaker 2: The contests are big, so there's definitely gonna be some
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  Speaker 2: some talking points and things to go through. But not
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  Speaker 2: thrilled with the pricing is my first take on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, So I talked about it in their discord.
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  Speaker 1: And the funny part is is they keep doing this
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  Speaker 1: with Scotty and you and I keep talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: This one is just wild.
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  Speaker 2: Though.
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  Speaker 1: The six k Rain has guys like Harry Hall, Harris English,
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  Speaker 1: Nikolai Hogard, It's got Daniel Berger, like a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: more names than that I could go into and some
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  Speaker 1: of them should belong there and some of them shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: But in reality, it's pretty crazy. How many you know,
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  Speaker 1: guys got pushed down to that level. And in the
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  Speaker 1: fives it's not like there's anything crazy, but the same people,
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  Speaker 1: people willing to pay more for Last week dropped down
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  Speaker 1: huge again, like Kevin you down to fifty eight hundred,
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Smith, Grazerman, Nico Mackenzie, Hughes, Matt McCarty, all those
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  Speaker 1: guys are down there, so you can build a million
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  Speaker 1: different ways. It's just gonna come down to what we
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  Speaker 1: always talk about. It's, you know, the Scotty effect of
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  Speaker 1: what you think, those like those look like Hoop because
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  Speaker 1: they made him a lot more expensive than Rory. I
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  Speaker 1: think that for sure, and we saw it last week too,
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  Speaker 1: kept him in check more than we thought, right like
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  Speaker 1: everyone has got the higher ownership. It dropped him down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. But the six k range is gonna
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  Speaker 1: get used a bunch and most likely rightfully. So there's
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  Speaker 1: just so many variations that you can go to down there.
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  Speaker 1: And you know that that land of Taylor, Pendrith, your
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  Speaker 1: boys another one there, Matt McNeely sixty one hundred. There's
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  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of names down to that ring. Nick
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  Speaker 1: Taylor at the minimum down there at six k flat
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  Speaker 1: for the sixes. So I don't know if there's anything
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  Speaker 1: else there, what's what sabers him giving us? Let's pull
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  Speaker 1: that up and see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just did what we have kind of coined
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  Speaker 2: the dry run, so kind of went in, just did
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  Speaker 2: a dry run. We got a thousand teams. Have it switched,
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  Speaker 2: it switched to projected points. I have your exposure column
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  Speaker 2: pre loaded all the way over. I don't even have
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  Speaker 2: to pull it over live on the show. Is this
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  Speaker 2: thing's already over here, ready to go. So the first
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  Speaker 2: thing I want to do is just sort by salary
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  Speaker 2: and see what we get in the top range. Because
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  Speaker 2: my initial thought was, hey, we're probably going to get
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  Speaker 2: a ton of these guys in the top range because
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be very easy to play them. And
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  Speaker 2: what do you get a ton of guys in the
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  Speaker 2: top range without even making any changes to anything. So
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  Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler got forty two percent, this is projected score,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty teams, Rory McElroy twenty eight percent,
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  Speaker 2: John rom sixty six, Bryce and d Chambeau twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Fleetwood thirty six. So there's a high ownership on
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  Speaker 2: all these guys. So the next thing I like to
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  Speaker 2: do is kind of sort by exposure. Is there anything
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  Speaker 2: crazy going on where I'm getting a ton of like
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  Speaker 2: a random five K guy that I don't like. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we got MATV McNeely seventy one percent. I'm not playing
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  Speaker 2: matth McNeely at seventy one percent. Let's just cap him
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  Speaker 2: at twenty apply and see what happens. All right, is
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  Speaker 2: there anyone else crazy? Harris English, We're getting twenty six reasonable,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just capping MATV McNeely. Now, let's go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: bring it back sort by salary, still getting forty two percent,
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  Speaker 2: Scottie still getting twenty percent, of Rory, still getting sixty
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  Speaker 2: nine percent, John Rom twenty percent Brice, and forty two
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  Speaker 2: percent Tommy Fleetwood. And that's with nothing too crazy in
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  Speaker 2: terms of just random dudes that are that are coming
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  Speaker 2: in with super high ownership or exposure, I should say.
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  Speaker 2: So that tells you all you really need to know
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  Speaker 2: about this slate. All these guys up top that look appealing,
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  Speaker 2: gonna be easy to access them, They're gonna be pretty
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  Speaker 2: highly owned and to what degrees is really the big
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  Speaker 2: ultimate question. But really no surprises for me in terms
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  Speaker 2: just by projected score. We'll go the next steps and
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  Speaker 2: see how it shakes out when we do buy sac score,
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  Speaker 2: and then by contest sims as well. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what are your initial thoughts here?
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  Speaker 1: And interesting that Rory gets squeezed because you know it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely raw im at ten to four being another eleven
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  Speaker 1: hundred cheaper. I get that. But then it's like, the
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  Speaker 1: point is this? And this comes up all the time,
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  Speaker 1: so I'll bring it up. Spencer Smith says, does Scotty
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  Speaker 1: have to win at that price? If so, I'm out
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: everything in golf DFS, PGA dfs. If you will, it
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  Speaker 1: just gets looked at so singular, and people forget you're
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: not matchup betting, you're not outright betting. There's all the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: other factors. So it depends on what the other five do.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: And it's really, really really at the pat the other
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: people around him. What are the other spends do if
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: he finishes fifth? Right, the easiest way to explain this
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: to people, because a lot of times they're, oh, he
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: has to win at that price if he finishes fifth,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Rory finishes twentieth, John Rohm finishes eighteenth, Bryson finishes twenty fifth,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: then yes, you're gonna need Scotty at fourteen to two
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: finishing fifth. All that matters is the guys around him.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: If Scotty finishes fifth but Rory wins the event, you're
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: probably not gonna need Scotty. I mean, that's just the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: best way to kind of lay it out.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason I flip it, I go, I just
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I agree, But I also flipped the other way is
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: because ry the people. What people don't understand, especially with
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the Scotty conversation Rory, is they could finish three four
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: like the the best in the field, and that can
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: easily happen. It's way more about what the others do.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: If it's Scotty and Rory and then five six k
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: guys up, there could be either of them, but it's
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: more likely the Scotty is because the Scotty ones jam
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: those in and so you see optimizers gave more of those,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: there's more variation, there's more that go with it. So
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: it really matters what everybody does, but it's the people
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: around him and then the others in the field. What
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: we're saying here and why this is important for this
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: week and why the talk is always just about dfs.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You could literally blank out the names and just show
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: me the values. When you see all these guys in
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the sixes Rye Spawn, got her up, Keegan Bradley, minmu
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Lee Aksha. The list goes on. That's just above sixty
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: five hundred, and then you get to the bottom there's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: like fifteen more names. That's where the variations start to
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: kick in and there's more Everyone says, well, one week
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: when it's just one guy down there, it's like then
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it kind of depends on what does the sixty five
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars value do. But if there's thirty values or
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: forty values down there, there's way more combinations to get
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you there. So it's going to depend on what the
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: other guys do and what you like in the other ranges.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: If you love the eight cas well, then you'll have
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to make your lineups differently because it's hard to get
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Scotty and the eight case right. It's easier to go
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: down to Ram at ten to four, and Ram is
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just so much cheaper than Scotty, almost four thousand dollars cheaper.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So it really does matter to look at everything. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that's also why Hoop I think it's a good exercise
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: from last week. I mean, you you attach yourself to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: some value plays in golf where people used to shit
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: on you for it, and you're like, look, pal, like,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: there's it's you're so into the ownership game that you're
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: not focused on what could happen. And there's other spots
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: in the lineup that you can use. And I know
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a ton of people disappointed last week with got Her
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Up and you coming through a high ownership, but they
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: were pegged this huge values. Everybody wanted them and got
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Her Up came through and literally won the tournament. So
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it happens. But typically their values for a reason, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: it's just all how you play them, right, Any any
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: other comments on that before we keep moving on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's I don't know. I think
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: it goes back to what you always say. It's like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: it's not who you play, it's how you play them.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: If you like somebody like, you don't have to get
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: off of them, just build a little bit differently, Like
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: you kind of just said, like if if it's Scotty
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and a bunch of five and six k guys, like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: try to find a way to it a little bit differently.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm never getting off someone because of ownership. If
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I like them, I'll just do things differently. You have
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: five other spots, like you don't. You know, the one
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: spot is one thing, but you have five other spots
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to do something different. And you know just how this
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: all applies to this week in terms of roster construction.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, just look at some of these teams. Right
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You're getting Bryson, John Rahm, and Tommy Fleetwood. So those
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: are three guys above ninety five hundred. You're assuming the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: rest of the lineup is going to look like complete dogshit.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: When you tell me I get Brom, I get Bryson
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and Fleetwood, you're gonna say, man, I can't imagine what
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the rest of that team is going to look like. Well,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: our first team has or where how did that team go? Yeah?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Right here that our first team has those three as
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Keegan legitimate golfer, as Corey Connors, very legitimate golfer, and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it has Maverick McNeely, who's like a what is he
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: is ranked like top twenty or something in the world
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on this team. So it's like you're not sacrificing anything
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: to get exposure to the top end guys here. So
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you know that's you can pull up a scotty team.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Just let's see what some of these scotty teams look
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: like Scotty. Four legitimate options. I mean, Hatten, whether or
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: not you like these guys or not does not matter.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I mean these are five legit golfers to go with
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the fourteen. K.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just it's tunny you brought that one up because
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that's a two B two right, So it's a Scotty
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a three v three.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Scotty Scotty right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Scotty Hatton Rye versus Bryson, Ram and Tommy. Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Scotty hatt and Rye, Bryson, Tommy rom.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And that's why I think Scotty might well probably does
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: get held in check. It's easy to play, and don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, it's very easy to plan, but his
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: ownership will get held in check because people are gonna
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: look at this and just say, damn, that other combo
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: is very You have three, you know, top ten golfers.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: You're playing Scotty with some top like thirty guys. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I do think the fourteen too does have a chance
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to keep Scotty in check a little bit. But if
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: someone's mming and coming and using sabers and you see,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it's like, I'm not sacrificing anything to get for Scotty Scheffler.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: So people that are mmme are gonna have both sides
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: of that all over the place because it's just too easy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm saying that that's the trigger. I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: guess it's the bad thing about when pricings like this,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: but we all play with the same I really like
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: having a portfolio on a week like this because you
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: are able to mix this up. And this is a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: great example. I think a lot more people I know
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the chat. The first couple of people chimed in on Scott.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: It's like two to one on that. We just put
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it up. If you guys want to throw your side.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: The one side is Scotty. Put a one for Scotty,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: put a two for rom side of this. But this
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: is just to show it that you don't need to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: go to the five K. You don't really need to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: do too much at all, and you are getting a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: good comparison here, Like you could easily think Rom Bryce
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: in Fleetwood sounds like bigger names, but you could see
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Scotty hatt and then it's just Ray has to show
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: up and if Scotty really shows up, or if Hatton
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: really shows up, or something along those lines. All of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a sudden, that's the one you're competing with. And that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the setting.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: If people are presented legitimately the year, you have one
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: team to make this week, right, you're making one team
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and you're putting all your money behind this one team.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I would say seventy percent of people will be choosing
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the Rom bryce In side. I agree it could be
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: even higher than that. I mean, you look at these names,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Scotty Hatton Rot like which side do I like it?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I honestly I might like that first side,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: But I know for a fact a majority of people,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: when they're putting their money behind these lineups, will select
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: number two here, and there's no doubt about it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially people that are out there handbuilding this up,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: because that's from a value perspective, and the projections and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: stuff on some of it, that's why you saw it
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: popping in ours like the projections will pop them up there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But what would people choose to your point, which most
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of them are just going out and building this. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: definitely think they land on the ROM side, And more
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of our chat is seeming like in that, but people
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: like both. It's yeah, and Kenny says that I'm honestly
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: very shocked to last week. Scotty was supposed to be
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: popular and you'll remember he wasn't quite as popular, right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: It kind of came in check a little bit. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't know how this week is gonna happen, because again
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the fourteen to two startled people until they got to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the six k range. Everybody starts at the top and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: then scrolls down, and when they scrolled down, they're like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, how the hell are these guys down
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: here that you can use with him like you can
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you can load up? And who showed it? You still
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have that lineup? By the way, that we're comparing this
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: three B three here, where's it at? I just shrewed up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: This three B three has Keegan Bradley, Corey Connors and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Mav McNeely as the other three in it. So it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: not like we're naming names you've never heard of or
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: some crazy spots down there. Spencer asked this question about
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: how many uniques do you run? It's a personal preference.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: There actually is new features in saber Sim. We're gonna
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have a live Q and A for Shippit Nation members tomorrow,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So Sabersim, anybody who uses Sabersim can check the ship
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Nation member, and it's basically going to be breaking this
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: down with Jordan from saber Sim, with our guy Rio
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Hebrew Cheetah and myself, and we're going to go through
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and look at this in these new features where you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: can see this, and it essentially sets your portfolio up
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: for diversity without having to look for this. But if
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you were just doing it and choosing yourself, most people
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: are putting two to three in there because they want
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to have different variations. You've got a smaller, tighter pool.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You could tighten up the unique some because you just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: want more within your own pool. But if you're spacing
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: it out a little bit, you can put some more
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: uniques in there just to get different that way. One
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: other thing too here, whope I saw Patrick says, all right,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: this is a good little storyline right quick. So all
• 24:38
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• 24:39
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• 24:42
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• 24:44
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• 24:46
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• 24:49
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• 24:54
  Speaker 1: all in the past. We've got videos here on the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel, Millionmaker winners and things like that. But Ryan
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: goes as part of joining the nation, you have to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: use EVR next week. Patrick, my buddy is EVRS caddy.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: If that's true, I beg of you. I need autograph,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: big fan. It is true, Patrick, Ryan is an actual
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: EVR fan. It does exist. I'll just keep that in mind.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the six K range is just so strong
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: no matter what. And yeah, Spencer caught on must have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it already says doesn't matter with the Saber update. If
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you're using the new Saber update, you can always convert
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: back to classic mode. But if you're using the new one,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they've done a ton of work in the back end
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and it's awesome having them as partners because there's lots
• 25:31
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• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the things which is awesome. So yeah, check it out.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You get Sabersim directly, and all these packages we have
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: include Sabersim in them. So next two we are gonna
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: pull up the sabers score. Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I just made one quick adjustment and Yeah, just for
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: personal preference. Like when I pulled up when we looked
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: at the projection, so we had like Rory and John
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: rom close, and there's a huge gap between Scotty and Rury.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to close that a little bit, close
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that gaps. I bumped Rory to seventy five his actual
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: projection number. And then when we went through and ran
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the teams, still getting a lot of John Ramm, getting
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of Tommy, but it's closer now between Scotty
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and UH and Rory. So that's just one thing to note,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: did get. Let's sort by exposure and make sure nothing
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: else is too crazy. Boom, ry we're getting twenty nine percent,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Like I'm probably not gonna play rye, and let's cap
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it at twenty for the sake of this.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He's popping big in the six k range. Yeah, projections
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and value, so that's why, Yes, I.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Just wanted to adjust a couple things before we go
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: in and look at Savor score. That's probably good enough.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: All right, let's see Savory score. Just do the big
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: big number fifty thousand plus to kind of take a
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: look at Milliemaker type stuff. Sort by exposures. Still getting
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of John Rom Scottie Scheffler forty time we
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: fleet with thirty four to thirty two thirty for uh Bryson.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So it's it's the same thing, man. I mean, so
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: many of these teams are not only starting with one spend,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: they're starting with two spends. And we saw somewhere there's
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: three spends. If you consider ninety five hundred and above
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a spend, we've already seen teams. We're getting three of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: those guys in there. How do the teams differ? You're
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: just getting you're getting the high end guys, but you're
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: getting some lower owned options to go along with Daniel
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Berger at like six percent, Hawkshay three percent, Pendrith four percent,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Max Grazerman's in this. So we're still getting the high
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: end spends, but with Saber squads starting to mix in
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: some of these lower owned cheap options. But these teams
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: look damn good. That's the one takeaway. I mean, it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like a just like an All Star sort of, it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be all All Star teams, Like you're gonna build
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: your teams this week and be like, damn, I like this,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: how can this thing lose? And the way it can
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: lose is everyone's looking at their teams and saying the
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: same thing. You're leaving, like three thousand dollars on the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: table might be a little bit different, but everyone's looking
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: at the same thing and thinking the same thing. So
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: so be careful. Don't get too tied to your teams
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: this week and think like, oh man, these these things
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: can't lose. Looks too good. Everyone's team's looking real good.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the elephant in the room. By the way,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: twenty five dollars million maker this week five dollars one
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: hundred k up top, et cetera, et cetera. So there's actually,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know, a method to their madness. They want every
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: team to look good. They want people to continue to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: build more teams, et cetera, et cetera. Those that have
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: been playing forever already know this, but just throwing it
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: out there for those wondering. Like Hoop said, you start
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: looking at like, man, every team looks good. Don't go
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: overboard just because it's a major week. Like if you've
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: got an edge that you like or if you're playing
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a weather angle, you feel good about that. By the way,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: our guy Luke will be back tomorrow night on the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: ship at Nation Channel, he'll have all that updated for
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you and more. It's definitely a week to keep an
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: eye on the weather currently. I know people are talking
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: about a potential for an am PM, you know, just
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: different different situations like that, so keep that in mind.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Spencer says, want to sponsor me in the five point
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: fifty five. Yeah, I love that you shooting your shop,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: but we might have more on that in the future.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. If you're interested in
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing, you're interested in this sort of thing,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you might want to make sure that you sign up
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: for an NFL package sooner rather than later. Okay, I
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: saw that message in my eyes lit up, and I
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: know yours did too, so I definitely wanted to make
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: sure we touched on that. That's really cool and innovative
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: things coming up.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Anytime we can touch on the marketing man, you know
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: me that. Yeah, in for sponsorship opportunities. You're sponsoring people,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Kenny with the Massive Bang girl, because I know you're
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: retiring soon. So hopefully if you go into investing in
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: this in this business, let us know you get sponsorship opportunities.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: We'll keep Kenny part of the squad for sure. The
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: tea's already happened, so we're good. Ryan asked this question.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I know this came up a lot. Actually, is this
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a good week to leave like eight hundred to two hundred?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Are we going in reverse or assuming you met eight
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: hundred to two thousand on the table. But I'm actually
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: fine on leaving money. I get it because there is
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: such bad pricing and so much value. I'm just not
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: leaving a bunch to leave it though, Like I'm not
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: trying to optimal hunt here. But if you say, you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: know what, I don't like gott her up or Rye
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: at sixty nine hundred, I prefer just to leave the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: money and play McNeely because Mcneely's a popular value. Well,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: one way to play the most popular value type is
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to do it while leaving eight hundred bucks on the table,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: because you should have a different construction or something where
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you'll still be unique or different than most. But I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about it. Who I'm not
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: leaving two to three k just because no, I'm not.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if you're talking like a thousand leaving
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a thousand, your teams aren't that significantly different? Really? I
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: mean when you think about it, I mean just using
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: find a quick example, like Ben Griffin at seventy three.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I like Ben Griffin for sure. Let's say I was
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: gonna leave eight hundred or a thousand, so I'm coming
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: down to the sixty five hundred dollars. Oh wait, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: can still play Harris English, Harry Hall, Taylor, Pendrith, Hoyguard Brothers. Like, yes,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I prefer Ben Griffin. But there's really not that much
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: a different. Your team's still looking very similar by leaving
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that money on the table. It's not a week where
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: if you leave a big chunk you're like, oh man,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: this looks like way way different. It's still going to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: be just as popular of a team. And I just
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: don't see like a huge difference. I guess, so I'm
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: not actively looking to do that. I will trust Sabersim
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in that task this week.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing you could do that's kind of sneaky
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in a week like this, Then again it's probably too cute.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do it. But if I was
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to leave a big chunk, it would be probably duplicating too,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: like a replicating before I play it. But I would
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I would take like my best Scottie Scheffler lineup and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: drop it to Rory and just leave it and say, look,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I know that now I'm going to because one thing
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: about that is the Rory lineups are going to look
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: quite a bit different than the Scotty lineups, as we've
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: already discussed. So that would be like a sneaky as
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: our boy title likes to say, there's levels to this ship,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: like it's it's probably too extra and too cute, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, at least that would make sense because
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: you're chopping out the favorite for like the guy that
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you know could win it as well, and so you're
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: just doing that to give yourself a naturally different construction
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna be unique for sure, But that's more
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of a move. It's like, Okay, I'm gonna play this.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I like Rory better than Scotty. I'll leave there.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That's the best way to do it. I mean, just
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like if you're gonna leave three thousand and I'm rounding
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up three thousand on the table, like from a Xander
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: line if you're going from Xander down to see Wu
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Kim or Wyndham Clark or Mark Leishman or Keegan Bradley.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: When you when you make that same sort of move
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: from Scotty to Rory, who are both going to be
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: very highly owned and no one else is really going
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: to be doing it, you're still getting similar win upside
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and a totally different roster construction. So that is a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: very good call.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It's just yeah, again it's it's a little bit out there,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: but it works in that way more than others choose.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: That's why I get when you're putting a you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: eight hunred bucks on the table in the six k range,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you're right, who gives a shit, just do it. But
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about leaving thousands, you're not leaving what
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you just said, like a ninety seven hundred dollars guy
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to a sixty seven hundred dollars guy, And not a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: good move. Whether it works out or not, it's just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that's where you get into trouble trying to hunt for that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Kenny says, no, no, I'm on the other side. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: need to be sponsored. Yeah, retiring with no money, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: can't see it, Kenny. And I've seen the house that
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you're building and really appreciate you man, So yeah, I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: know you're playing around Ross. I would like to apply.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You guys can be the bushes means to cornwall. One
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: thing I can tell you, ross, because you're a long
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: term ship Nation member, you won't need to apply. That's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: one thing we can give away with without even being
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the teas the facts are will be four ship it
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Nation members. Of course, nobody in the industry is gonna
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: be doing anything like this, I can promise you that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And nobody takes care of their community the same way
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they can say they do, but not when it comes
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to this where that we call ourselves the home of
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the giveaway, This will will prove it. So it's gonna
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: be big. What else do we got?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: What?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: What's the conservative way? What's the best way to be conservative?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Story and not go all in on saber? I think,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: who do you like to just manage your exposures right,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like you go through and actually say like, okay, I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: not gonna give me seventy for kind a.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Kind of my style of play. I would say, to
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, like I'm pretty somewhat conservative. I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: do take some I take pretty big.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I actually I.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't say I'm conservative when it comes to building teams.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I do take some pretty big stands. But the best
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: way to do this for sure is like you said,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: probably using like the min max tool here, right, So
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you know, say, like we saw Maverick McNeely was seventy percent,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Like if you just let that ride, you're basically going
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: all in on Saber with the Maverick mcneelly play, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: get very in depth in terms of like the min
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: max just like right out of the gate here looking
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: at some of these, let's just sort by the highest
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: exposure here, John ram at fifty. Yeah, sure, I'm probably
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: good with that. And you know that's probably the reason
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: why I like the exposure tool over here, because I'm
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: always looking at exposures and then changing the min max.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Now that I have it way over here, I got
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to keep going back and forth. But Rory thirty two,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: good with that. Bryson thirty ouh. You know, I don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: love Bryson this week, so I'm just saying I do.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'm fine playing him, but I would say, all right,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I don't want more than twenty percent him. Oh, Chris
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Gottrup one last week, I don't think he's going to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: be successful. This week, I'm getting twenty five percent of him.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: It's only four percent of I'm just gonna cap it
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: at ten and you can go through and continue to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: do this. And one thing for sure, if you are
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: making a lot of these changes, I like to go
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: in and rerun the team, like rerun after making a bunch,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: because then you're going to get more teams that fit
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: your criteria in terms of the min max stuff. Right now,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: it's just pulling from the thousand teams that I built
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and finding teams within those thousand. Once I rerun it,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get more teams that fit the crime in
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: terms of the mid max I'm looking for. So that
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: is a good question, and I think the mid max
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: tool is definitely the way to make sure you have
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: more of your personal input in there.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the key. And it just other
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: people you know are wondering that and they talk about
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it all the time. It's a question that comes up
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. So do you think it's okay to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: lock a sixty? I'll just gonna pull that one next.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just going in order I see.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: It for me, I don't. I mean, unless you have
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a very strong read and you just absolutely love somebody
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and you're you're okay with being all in on it
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't make the cut your weeks over. For me,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: it's like, if you're playing five teams, one out of
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: five is twenty percent, so there's no one in the
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: six K range that's going to be above twenty percent.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So you're immediately at that point above the field on
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: your six K guy by just playing one of them. Now,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: do you really like the guy? Maybe you play them
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: on two teams. So for me personally, if I was
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: building five teams, the most I would play of a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: six K guy would probably be on two teams, which
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: puts me ut and I'm way way over the field
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: at that point. And you know, no one's going to
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: be massively owned in the six K range, So playing
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: a guy in two out of five, you're way over
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the field. You're getting a ton of lot for John
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that guy. I'd be good with that.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bring up Sheets comment now, shout out to our guy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Sheets doing a ton of different content over there. You
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: can probably see it hoop on your screen if you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: just hover over Sabersim for a second at the top.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Another advantage or benefit of being a Shipping Nation member
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: is when you scroll over sabersim drop down at the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: top hoop of your screen up by NFL the dropdown
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: hoops old. We got to get them dialed in tutorials
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and live Q and A's. We won't go there now,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: but just to note, so Sheets has been on these.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: He's helping build some tutorials for the site. He's done
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: tennis MMA, I think, and PGA, so you guys can
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: check that out. And there's some live Q and a's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: as well. But he's talking about their new update and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it does create a bit more of a conservative build,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the diversification of it, and I like Jordan's comment in
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Layman's terms, and you know, for lack of better, it's
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the best way to put it. Base built it so
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that you're not when you're losing, you're not losing your ass.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: You still regain some of your entry fees, but it
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: still can put you in position well enough to be
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: in a good spot. So I really think the new
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: update is one worth getting good with and then being
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: able to find that. And then she says, I am
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: old and have several herniated discs be light with the piggyback,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: so lots of different ways to go. I think, you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: bring the noise brings up that I like, call you
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: over McNeely better CFR. That's our course. Fit ranking and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: lower ownership at the same price certainly can make some pivots.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to play them both as well. That's another
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: thing that you can do. So lots of different ways
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: that you could go with it, but I think that's
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: kind of the setup here is if you're using the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: tools to your advantage. I should add too, because not
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to go all the way in right away.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: If you do want to try out this week and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the next month and get used to Saber Sam and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that we have to offer, twenty four dollars.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: If you go to the site and you just go
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to the ninety nine dollars all access plan, you'll see
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it there. You can't miss this ninety nine a month.
• 38:56
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• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to for twenty four bucks, so your next month is
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: less than a dollar a day. You'll find out on
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: August sixth what's going on, and then I'm sure you'll
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: be in by then, so you might you'll be able
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: to just convert it over at any time. You can
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: always transfer your plan and pro rate it and keep
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: all the deals intact. Did you pull up contest sims now?
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeap, just ran it. Let's look through and see if
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: anything changed drastically from you know, saber score projected score.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: So Scotty Stuffler bumps up quite a bit. We're getting
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: now sixty percent of Scotty. And that was kind of
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: John Rom spot on the previous projected score and Saberscore,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: John Rom, we're getting sixty Now it's flipped to Scotty.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing it's because of the high projected number and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: not like a crazy amount of ownership. But sixty percent Scotty,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: thirty percent, Fleetwood thirty percent John Rom basically thirty on
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Bryson and then eighteen on Rory. So Rory comes down
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: quite a bit, Scotty comes up quite a bit, John
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Ram comes up quite a bit. Uh you start to see,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: let's see and then yeah, it kind of spreads out
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: some of these guys in the six k's and fives.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I do want to take a look and see what
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: do these Scotty teams look like. So all of a sudden,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: sixty percent of our teams are Scotty. Let's take a
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: look and see.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Scotty John Ram and then some lower owned options Cam
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Smith I know for some reason we can't see it
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: here is six percent, Jordan al Smith four percent, Lawrence
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: three percent.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Uh see best three. So this is a different sort
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: of Scotty build. The second one Scotty Fleetwood, who both
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: are going to have some ownership, mav Rye, Ricky Fowler
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and Crazy Back.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: What's the is that forty on that team?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Forty nine one and that is the cap that
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I've or the lowest mind cellary that I have on
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: this one here.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: So just a note of her, because I think a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: lot with a lot of people see that and think
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: because they go, well, wait, you're playing Scotty, mav Fleetwood
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and Rye. That's all the chalk in a Scotty line.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But you have Fowler and Grazerman at load of no
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: ownership in this thing, and then you've left nine hundred
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: dollars on the table. That's when people failed to realize
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: when the contest sims and things like that play out.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: And I say it because then people look at these
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: lineups that win like last week Hooper like oh all
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the chalk got there and this that and the other.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It's it's how they played it though. In that example,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: even if that gets there, it feels like the donkey
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: chock got you. But someone built a lineup with nine
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars on the table, two lower owned plays and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Fowler and grazermen and it allowed them to play the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: other stuff in a great lineup. Still, So it's just
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: little things like that that you have to look at
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: more than just what the exposures are. And that's why
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Hoop's doing a good job just going through showing you
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: these lineups directly.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see these teams like it look
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: quite a bit different, like each one is getting exposure
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: to to something different. Now we're starting to see some
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Scotty Fleetwood, Scottie Fleetwood. Now more Scotty Rom Scotti Rom Scotty.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I guess Shane Lowry's the next spend at ninety three.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I did notice so for the first time that Patrick
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: can't lay is eighty one hundred dollars this week? Oh my,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: is he falling eighty one? That's got to be the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: lowest price for him in years? Right, Yeah, I.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Guess what about crazier to me? Scott Hideki Matsiyama seventy
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: five hundreds.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: That makes more sense because he's been awful. He's been very,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: very bad.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I get it, but that just seems insane to like
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the other ones we know are miss prices of those
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: guys in the six k because of recent form. But
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: then you look at like some of the recent like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the events and things.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Like that Hadki hasn't done that. I mean, well that
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: thirteen was at the Rocket Classic, so that is kind
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of bad. That's like probably like a thirty or forty
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: at a normal event. Yeah, it is the lowest, so
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I mean that's what's crazy though, Like with the five
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: K range, like everything needs to get bumped up, like
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: these guys can't look super cheap. It just makes roster
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: construction just it's like so so crazy, like you just
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: know all the like you can't make a a leverage
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: play at the top of the board because they're all
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: gonna get pretty decent ownership.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about your Marik howa you just continue to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: pound that one And this guy's miscut again last week just.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Not very good anymore. I mean, I don't get it,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'd like playing him in the past.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: He's always steady, rock solid, Like just I don't get it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: With this dude anymore. He's just not very good.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So one thing that we didn't really fully touch on,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: but it's obvious because it's a product of everything else
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: we went through already is the seven K range and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I just kind of brought Decky up for that reason.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think Connors, who we've definitely talked about Fitzpatrick will
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: get love for many reasons. But what if these other
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: seven K guys show up because all these lineups that
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: just pound the six is in Yeah, makes sense, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: why there's so many there? But you have Jordan Speed,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Justin Rose, Russ, Henley, sepstrac of Burns, Adam Scott, Ben Griffin,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you know, all a bunch of them guys read Fox, Carman,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: d Tree Like the seven K range isn't that big
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: versus what it usually is, but it has enough guys
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: in there that could make a difference. Is there any
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts around that? And then even the lower eight k's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: which you hinted at, there's not many guys in the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: eight k's in general, but will people play eighty five
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars Justin Thomas eighty two Nieman eight K Brooks Like, Yeah,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: can't play them all?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: So struggle, struggle to get a really good reeks. A
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: lot of times we're able to say, all right, this
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: range is gonna go overlooked because of pricing. What I
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: think this does? All right? But I think this does,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: and you can you can give me your opinion on it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I think it really spreads out outside of the top guys,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: outside of these top four or five ish guys, really
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: spreads out ownership up and down the board. Like I
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: just think all these guys are gonna get spread out
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: because we know people are gonna play multiples of these
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: dudes up top right. People will start to play some
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Shane Lowry, Ludwig look underpriced at ninety one McIntyre. Overseas,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: they're gonna like, you know, you got names that are
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: cheaper than they've ever been. More Cow is cheaper than
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: he's been. Even Justin Thomas has sucked ass and he's
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: eighty five hundred cheap. Victor Hovlin has been playing well cheap.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: People like namn can't lay they get to the seventh Damn,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: there's more guys. I like Fitzpatrick's been playing well. Hideki's
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the cheapest he's ever been. Sepstrak and Ben Griffinth have
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: been one of the best players on the PGA Tour
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: this year. Adam Scott's played well, Corey Conners had played
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: has played well. Cam Young. Then you get to the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: six K range, and damn, look at some of these
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: guys down here some JM Aaron Rye got her up
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: just one, Tony Fena is down here, Keegan Bradley's down here,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Wyndham Clark is showing signs of life. Tom Camus shows
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: signs of life. Just so many dudes that look really underpriced.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of Scottie Scheffler ownership. There's him,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of Rory is gonna be a lot of
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: gen Ron. People are still gonna play Bryce and Xander,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and then they're just gonna mix and match all these dudes.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Eight yeah, six is. I just think ownership just gets
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: spread out so much in those range ranges.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say above Rye, just starting at seven
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: K up to even lowry I think because Fleetwood is
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: definitely the cut off, Fleetwoods getting big ownership at ninety
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: five hundred, I think it really gets spread out on
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the majority of those guys. Some will pick up steam
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: as the week goes on. Some are popping into these
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: projected lineups. I get it, the Matt Fitzpatricks of the world.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: If it's Hoveland, if it's Moricow, whatever, it ends up
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: being my point being, and those are price related. I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: do agree with you. From like seven k to ninety
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: three hundred, there's a story for everybody. There's a case
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to be made for everybody, and our exposures kind of
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: show it. I think right when you were looking at.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: The ownership, look at the ownership here. I mean it
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: backs up really what we're saying. A lot of times
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you'll see some guys, you know, two to three percent,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Like look at from Fleetwoods gonna be his owner. It's
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: gonna be higher than that after some adjustments. But Lowry
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: thirteen percent, Ludvig eleven eleven sixteen, who's the lowest own guy?
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Nieman at six like, and then everyone else is gonna
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: be six and above. Like, I think that's realistic. But
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like I said, there are gonna be some that get
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: steamed up, some that come down a little bit. But
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: initial ownership projections show that all these guys are getting
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit of something.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, J, that's as a black mass said, JJ's the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: new Brooks only cares about the major sixty nine hundred
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: for JJ Spahn got her ups right there, rise right there.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: So I guess the bigger question is, like how you're
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: treating the five case because we just went through it,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and I think we nailed the seven to eights nines
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: low nines even like that's gonna be well. Other shows
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: will go through who the guys are. Everyone has their guys,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you know. Some shows will make a case for their guys.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Other shows will make a case for their guys. I'm
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: gonna play DFS and see what it all shakes out
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: in the end, and we'll have all that up over
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: on the site. But I think the five K ranges
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: next interesting discussion here, Hoop, just because who do you
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: see here? Like guys that people used last week are
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: that Ritan guy, Grazerman, Kevin You, Matt McCarty, and Nico
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I think, and some of them hurt people's feelings, some
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: of them didn't, maybe Johnny Vegas whatever. But I think
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: people will touch it slightly. But that's that's what I'm wondering.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: They're gonna come a little bit just because man, it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: like you just play one of these guys and then
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you have a chance to play like three guys of
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Tommy Fleet when and above like so you can easily
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: do that. I mean even is it peng or peng
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Ga the guy that finished third last week? Six yeah, yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: six k, Like he's gonna be on this writing guy
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like you talked about. I played him last week. He
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: was awful round one and then played really well two,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: three and four. Uh, we're getting in this build fifteen
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Jordan L. Smith lineups. I think he's gonna get some
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: We're showing thirteen percent getting thirteen percent. Crazer man. Kevin
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: U is a popular name, and then it does fall
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: off after these upper fives, and I think that is
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: going to be the case, like all these dudes five
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: K to fifty eight hundred probably nothing man like are
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: who are people going to play? You don't even need
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: to come down here to make it all work. So
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: like to me, it's it's Kevin you and above gonna
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: get some ownership, but like nothing else really and you
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: just don't even need it. If there's someone down here
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: that you like, if you like Mkent Hughes, for sure,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: play him. How tang Lee whoever it is, Davis Riley already.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Wrote them up.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Man, you know how how tongue man, how tong lee.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: You just don't need to do it like you're getting
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: heavy exposure up top without going down here. And I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: don't think the field's gonna come down here all that much.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I played this right, and dude
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: last week probably not how you pronounce the name, I'll
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: play him again. I'm good with Jordan els this this
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: uh coover a guy. He did well, right. I saw
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: where'd he finish? I know he was definitely made the
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: cut it believe right he fell ship, made the cut
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and finish seventy third, So not very very inspiring. But
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you know, Graysman, I always play you, man, Kevin, you
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: can get hot and make a lot of birdies. So
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I do like him. Your guys, Stephen Jager's Jason.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Co crack is bad.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Where's he been sniffing it?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Really sniffing the coke crack? I don't know that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I've not seen that name in a long time.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I'm throwing him into a lineup just for you guys. Yeah,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: he looks you know, Yeah.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Jason, you know what's crazy? Okay, I didn't realize he
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: went to live Yeah, Yeah.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just making up a joke. But do you know
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: who's actually crazy to see that we haven't seen forever?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Louis you stays in. Yeah, Louis, I saw him on
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: this list hundred Louis, you gotta get him in the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: mix and some man come on.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: He wasn't He was like a big game hunter a
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: few years ago. Right, people loved him at Majors.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he will be. And Patrick, my guy,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: he brought me this up too. Yes, his last time
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Decky was seven point five k. He won the Genesis Open,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: which was in twenty twenty four, like early twenty twenty four,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: So that notes that interesting. Yeah, like this Phil Mickelson's
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and all these guys, they are just taking your shots.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I get it. Like our guy Lee. Go to the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: value report he wrote up Phil Micholson. He's interested and
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: he has been playing better. My dad brought him up yesterday.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: That tells me what I need to know. But I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm not gonna be going there. But
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I will say a lot of my friends that I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: talked to that are way more into this stuff than
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I am, and overseas and some of these people that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: live over there and hit me up. A lot of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: them don't really like last week for this week in
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the sense of like the Scottish versus this, like, yeah,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you got over there and you you know, maybe were
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: slightly acclimated to Europe in weather and the time and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the jet lag. Sure, but I think just coming in
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and riding some of the form that we have and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: maybe not docking guys for last week. Like Grazerman has
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: been playing amazing golf and just didn't come through for
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: people last week. He's right there at fifty nine hundred.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: He's the same as a six K guy to me,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Like whether you play a Penge at six k or Grazerman,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I really don't just count. Like whatever happened last week
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it happens this week. You guys do it
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: every week. Why do you play DFS the next week
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: after you just lost because you're expecting something different to
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: happen because it's possible, right, you know, it doesn't mean
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the same thing's gonna happen back to back. Nothing says
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that about those two.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, with the Hobleum stuff like yeah, I mean
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get some ownership, but there's just
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: too many guys right around him that are also gonna
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: get ownership for him to be chalk. I mean, if
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: you think upper teams is chalk, then okay, But like
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: when I look at this time, like he's got to
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: be like twenty five percent for me to consider him shock,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he can get there with all
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the other guys in this range that I know are
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: gonna get some degree of ownership. So I wouldn't, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: his popularity, I would not let that dictate whether or
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: not you play.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would peg him as the best way i'd
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: put it is I would peg him as the ak
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: chock Like I definitely think a lot of people have
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: an AK guy land on him. But what we've seen
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: in these type of setups, and we've seen it in
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: now we did we did Sabers, we did projections, we
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: did Sabers score, and we did contest sims, the eight
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: K range just can't be included as much. So if
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: it does happen to be that one eight K guy
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: gets boosted, I agree with you it would likely to
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: be hobbling there at eighty three hundred. But I just
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: don't see that becomes one of the guys where Hoop
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: always brings it up. And there's a few weeks where
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: he had Tommy Fleetwood in the eight K range and
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you brought it up and you were dead on, and
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: it was like Fleetwood's gonna be on, Fleetwood's gonna be on. Well,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the builds just couldn't include an eight K guy, and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: so he came in at twelve or thirteen percent, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: in higher stakes even less because then people grazed over
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that range completely and it was like, Wow, I wish
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I hadn't known him played Fleetwood because what do you do?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Probably can second again like he always does. So it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: like that's that's what ends up happening to those guys,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and I think that's important to remember as well. So
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: that's just one other thing. Anybody, last thing here, Hoop,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and then we'll get out of here. Just interesting names throughout.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm, you know, using that same concept Lowry
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: won here back in nineteen, but that has nothing to
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: do with today. I'm just saying I think Lowry's game
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: fits it more than just winning it in the past.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's fine, but it doesn't seem like he
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: can get as owned with guys like Oberg and Fleetwood
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and Xander and Ram all around him, So he's kind
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: of interesting to me. Justin Thomas in the eight K
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: range squeezed in there between Morikawa, Hatton, Hobland, I like
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: JT for this spot eighty five hundred, Hadeki already talked
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: about at seventy five Adam Scott, You guys know, I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: was like people were clamoring for Ben Griffin. He's the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: best golfer in the world after Scotti, Scheffler. The numbers
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: prove it. Well, why is nobody really talking about him
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: this week? At seventy three hundred. We're jamming in all
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the other guys around him. Adam Scott is right there too,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: beside him. So I see some of those guys standing
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: out to is like the pockets where I I just
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to your point, it gets more spaced out, and maybe
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: that's where I picked some spots to take leverage. What
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: are some of those guys for you that stand out
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: or is any different there for your ideas?
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: One for sure for me is Justin Thomas. I know
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: you mentioned mentioned him, but like it's been up and down,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: but kind of seeing signs heading in the right direction,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: like a little bit for him eighty five hundred. He's
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: super if he's playing like he was early on in there,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and you can say that about a lot of guys.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: You can say the same with Colin Mark Howell, like
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: if you're playing how he was earlier on in the year.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: He's up here in the Fleetwood Xanderschople range, but he
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: hasn't been playing well inconsistent eighty five hundred, like he
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: could easily be a thousand more expensive. So he is
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: definitely an interesting name for me in this, Like you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: eight nine, the lottery stuff, I think pretty interesting as well,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: But I just look at it's hard to find like
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: a leverage play, like who's going to be low owned
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: up here? Like if you like Brooks, Like, I don't
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: think anyone's gonna play Brooks. He's probably the one that
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: gets is probably the lowest doone. I'm not going there,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Like I never really played him in the past, even
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: when he was winning, and it costs me a shit
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: ton of money, So I'm definitely not going there now.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the most interesting for me is definitely like
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: JTT at eighty five, because if he is trending in
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: the right direction, this is too cheap for him.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the top about the guy that came out of
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: prison the biker gang. Dude. Man, he's playing. I think
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: he's playing in the same group as Phil Mickelson. Actually,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I talk today some wild groups out there, but that
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: was one of them. Phil Mickelson's mixed in with the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: dude straight out of jail into the biker gang into
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the Open. I honestly don't know. I didn't read that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: full story. I saw like the the Harley and the
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: tattoos and all the classic biker gang stuff that they
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: showed off in the article, but I don't know how
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: he got from jail to the open that. I don't know.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: That's a good story though. Man, Hey, I'll tell you what,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: if they talked about that sort of thing in their telecast,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: people will be way more interested than whatever the hell
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: they do. I mean, their talk is so awful during
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: these golf telecasts that one might be somewhat interesting them.
• 57:12
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• 57:18
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• 57:21
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• 57:24
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• 57:25
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