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- 0:05Time amortized by cobwebs and fog. She repeated this phrase so literary because it
- 0:11seemed to her that it had happened during that time to the one who needed
- 0:17to return Only then could the fog be diluted that would allow her to contemplate
- 0:23it after cleaning the webs that covered it. If he was able to do
- 0:25so, he would finally feel safe a white shadow Carmen Rivera in word authors
- 0:31with welcome pink. Thank you very much, my pleasure. We were talking
- 0:36two seconds ago about that concern about death. But before I get there,
- 0:42I' m still going with this introduction and I' m saying I need
- 0:46a year to dust off and clean the cobwebs. That was Barbara Simpson'
- 0:49s decision, one she had made because she didn' t know how to
- 0:56say it, maybe in other words, she needed a break, something had
- 0:58happened to her. She said a year of fanaticism, instead of sabbatical.
- 1:04She was right, because what she needed was to be able to be at
- 1:11peace. He' s an opera singer, my protagonist, and I'
- 1:15m clear of the fact that rehearsals are going to run one label for another.
- 1:17He was not allowed by that fanatic and needed a year to be able
- 1:23to recover a whole series of aspects of his lost infantia to reach a distant
- 1:29place where perhaps he could solve that riddle he was worried about. He had
- 1:36been saying in death more than in life and had come back. I had
- 1:40been it seems that I had had an experience f near death experience, so
- 1:46it is called, and that is what happens to people who have a total
- 1:49cardiac arrest and who suddenly recover come back and it seems that the people who
- 1:59come back come back to close something, something that has been unfinished, which
- 2:04is what happens to my protagonist, and what they tell is that they are
- 2:07in an absolutely wonderful place of tranquility, peace and light from which they may
- 2:14not want to return. And those who don' t want to go back
- 2:20are sure to stay there. What, therefore, is a way of thinking
- 2:22that perhaps everything was not spoken in this life and who says that he has
- 2:25lived that moment, in that peace, in that tranquility of health, is
- 2:31because he has been back there caressing that line, he was leaving or he
- 2:38had to return, but I insist that those who return do so for a
- 2:43necessity in something and there was nothing left. In this case it is an
- 2:46unfinished childhood issue not she has to undertake a journey towards the past, a
- 2:51journey from a past and one towards a specific place, which is where the
- 2:54facts have happened to her, which have it in a certain way, because
- 2:58traumatized and that and that to ns known the facts and references to a character
- 3:02that is going to be very important, that she has known not too long
- 3:07ago, because Guial has told it what happened when she was in that place.
- 3:10That' s what removed a little bit. Yes, it is your
- 3:15Secretary Rose Barness who transcribes the principle of the introduction, and conveys it to
- 3:23Hans Mayer, who does not at all admit the decision he has made,
- 3:27because older hunch I am representing and a representative. When an opera singer tells
- 3:30him that he will not comply with the contracts, because obviously he does not
- 3:36endure it and of course, he gets very angry because robse has another paper
- 3:42role, since much more contemporaneizing. In this case. This character is an
- 3:46opera singer. I understand that ram opera is a very important element. I
- 3:53like it a lot and besides, I really like even the crude verista opera
- 3:59that she is singing that wonderful area of visidarte and when she has the cardiac
- 4:05stop and it seems to her a really great pear, wonderful, extraordinary,
- 4:11like many operas. I' m more of Puchin' s and Wagner'
- 4:14s, but I also liked Chinese better. What happens when we die,
- 4:19Carmen? Well, I don' t know why. I haven' t
- 4:25died yet. I know, but fortunately, but what do you think,
- 4:29what can happen and if I die, I' m probably not going back
- 4:33to tell you. Well, I think what can happen seems to us that
- 4:39death looks like sleep. No yes, and when we dream, we don
- 4:43' t know anything, then a little bit. I think rather that what
- 4:46is going to happen is this, but I have the hope that, in
- 4:49a way, science in part considers that there is something after, even without
- 4:57taking into account the religious aspects that have told us that there was a heaven
- 5:02for the good, hell for the bad. Before there was purgatory, which
- 5:06always caught my attention, because I did not know what to do in that
- 5:11place. They told me it was to wait, he hoped to go to
- 5:17heaven and then dad I think he said the orgatory, because it was gone.
- 5:21It had disappeared, the oprogatory was, among other things, the space
- 5:27or place where a child was if he died before being baptized. It wasn
- 5:30' t that one, but it was the limbo, the linen. It
- 5:33' s true, it' s just that by removing it clearly, that
- 5:38was the limbo that followed. It was another ribulous space. You didn'
- 5:41t know those kids, but purgatory was, because I think maybe you didn
- 5:46' t behave well. The whole thing is to purge, because purgatory comes
- 5:51this you were buried something and another and surely if you behaved well, or
- 5:56I don' t know what penances you could do in that place, for
- 6:00then, then days, heaven is true. In addition, you close,
- 6:02the book revealed nothing postulating the different religions that, in the end, death
- 6:10takes you to the same place. Yeah, it' s funny,'
- 6:15cause, well, some and some of the Greek birds. It was a
- 6:18terrible place and they shouldn' t like to think about it. But in
- 6:24principle, the great monotheistic religions during the above all of the Christian religion and
- 6:30in that they have educated us, do not pose that, therefore, a
- 6:34positive compensation for the bad ones and a horrible disaster for the bad ones.
- 6:40Above all, I remember the plates of my childhood in the nuns in which
- 6:45Pedro Bossio' s boilers were and with those tridents in which they were pinsing,
- 6:51you were punctured good by horrifying. You had to behave yourself, because
- 6:55you had to be It was very dangerous, it was awful. Yes,
- 6:58we go to the family womb where Barbara, Barbara, is born, her
- 7:02parents are traveling musicians and a time of years of racial selection is born in
- 7:08the United States. Yeah, well, actually, I haven' t finished
- 7:11the racial and lived there either. In short, not everything, but either
- 7:15we are going to co- president, but there are many blacks discriminated against,
- 7:20just like Hispanics, unfortunately, but the time when barbarous is born,
- 7:26because that is still more intense. It is the time in the sixty-
- 7:29eight, as you will remember very well Martin Luthierkin Tell us that he has
- 7:36a dream and it is everyone' s dream. No, and that'
- 7:40s a beautiful speech. You also talk about cotton plantations. Well, we
- 7:46all remember that picture or what we' ve seen or read about blacks picking
- 7:53up cotton under the circumstances. We' ve seen what I' ve been
- 7:56living, what I' ve been seeing has been taken away, well,
- 7:58that' s mythical. We have seen what I have worked or seen because
- 8:01before the previous novel that takes place in Cuba, I was in the wits.
- 8:09There it is called only ingenuity, Cuban ingenuity, where good, because
- 8:13Cuban geniuses made it possible. Then capital that left Spanish Cuba made the Basque
- 8:20Country possible. In a way, the industrialization of the Basque Country and the
- 8:26industry of Barcelona. We' re going from Catalonia, that is, Captain
- 8:30Negrero, say yes, yes, yes. The truth is, yes.
- 8:33Dr Riper is from Barbara to write a biographical text reflecting her own experience.
- 8:39Let' s say she has to pull back somehow. But I wonder how
- 8:43you can go back to a childhood that you remember almost tiptoe, because I
- 8:50guess she' s interested in removing the spider webs from that childhood. Yes,
- 8:58and I guess it also happens to that protagonist as well as to all
- 9:03of us, which is that when we remember, we remember the facts as
- 9:09they were, we remember memories and those memories sometimes lead us away very much
- 9:15from that reality. To say, we cannot recover lost time, is not
- 9:20true or of plus in its exact sense, always and nuanced by everything we
- 9:26have contributed through remembering it. So many times we idealize it somehow. I
- 9:31certainly feel I do think there is a very important character in Barbara' s
- 9:43life who is Tina, dear aunt uncle, tell me something good. It
- 9:50' s a character that comes out at the end of the go- on
- 9:54side. It seems to me that it is the third part of the book
- 10:03and that character that is in contact with nature that we could say is really,
- 10:07well, a hipp of the time and that when barbarous as a child
- 10:13her parents leave her in her father, in one place, in a Mallorcan
- 10:20village, because the last part of the novel is located in Mallorca. In
- 10:24this character let' s say she' s the only person in town where
- 10:28she' s speaking English. And that creates a link, that is,
- 10:31because the poor barbarian girl speaks only English. Without the Mallorcan people of that
- 10:37town, they speak only Mallorcan, which makes it very difficult to understand.
- 10:43And then, well, that character is important because he can talk. It
- 10:48seems to me that understanding between people is fundamental and perhaps even if they are
- 10:54two people, a girl and a Mr Mayor, very far away, because
- 10:58they create a single one. It is important because I believe that where this
- 11:03second part of the novel happens, it is in nature and the two love
- 11:11nature. Now we' ll talk about Mallorca. The abuses were not verbalized,
- 11:16not perhaps you were so aware that it was happening. Not because the
- 11:24children who now have the children to band about adults in a way above all
- 11:28the generation of mothers and fathers acting with young children I asked you back.
- 11:35I think wrongly, in my opinion, they' re either telling you or
- 11:41they' re making parents see that the children are the ones who have to
- 11:45send them. It' s all that lawsuit. Children impose their criteria,
- 11:50i e I find it barbaric. As you also find a barbarity. On
- 11:52the contrary, then, in this sense, since the relationships that could be
- 12:03established with an adult often happened to think that he was an adult could have
- 12:09any decision about a boy, the boy or the girl. They did not
- 12:13realize that there were aspects that were really forbidden and terrible, that is,
- 12:18the acceptance of anything that an adult could do as normal. And that abuse
- 12:22is children and it' s something In the recent background, in the sixties
- 12:26and seventies, that was just so typified in the code. Yes, he
- 12:33would shut up, you would shut up because he was the one who suffered
- 12:39it as a subject of shame, of course, and then he wouldn'
- 12:41t tell. A horror. We' re going with Mallorca and the White
- 12:45Goddess. I' d like you to tell me what they were reading and
- 12:48there' s the White Goddess. Well, there' s a very big
- 12:52story or volume of Robert Gres who lived in a town near Fosyu, that
- 12:56she told us about the white goddess. But the one that appears in my
- 13:01book is not the closed Grey, it' s another, it' s
- 13:07a legend about the mountain where that white goddess lives. I like that reference
- 13:11to the feminine, because there is also another character who is the person who
- 13:18in the background helps the girl Barbara Simpson very much, which amazing bumil is,
- 13:24who is a character of an ancient diva face at that time gives classes,
- 13:30who has also been a teacher of Maria Calas E fictitiously and clearly or
- 13:35of other important singers, and that she has a predisposition to the Marian theme,
- 13:41to the theme of the Virgin, because the Virgin also raises that wonderful
- 13:48mediation with God as that white Goddess poses that wonderful mediation with all that is
- 13:54natural strength, with all that is that pure ymit and mythical element of power
- 14:01and of but your benefactor to help those who have fulfilled a series of rules
- 14:07and a little bit, for I well, I am in Mallorca in summer
- 14:11and I realize that the mountain of the test many times the people who want
- 14:16to go up to see it, because what it does is leave crap everywhere,
- 14:20that is to say, I think good, because maybe the goddess takes
- 14:24revenge some day makes them miss it and they fall they pass it very fal
- 14:28or there is a flood that clean all that garbage. We' re exactly
- 14:33out of mountain, we' re out of mountains, we' re like
- 14:35predators. Well, the Himalayas, so is the good thing. Everes,
- 14:39for example, is being horrible. All the characters tell their story from the
- 14:43point of view of rosadarms. I don' t think the avars count the
- 14:50clever is the person who writes, because Barbara tells the person who asks her
- 14:54to write the story, that he is the doctor who has told him that
- 15:00he has already charted knowledge in the hospital, that he has told him that
- 15:05this experience is a normal experience and that it would run away very well to
- 15:09her to write about it, is to go along with that and take that
- 15:16text to him so that he can compare it with other people' s experiences.
- 15:18So what happens is that, of course, Barbara knows about music that
- 15:22is wonderful because it has no translation, that is, the tract. You
- 15:28can listen to a Japanese concert and understand it perfectly or get excited like here
- 15:33or like anywhere. Literature isn' t Japanese. You can' t read
- 15:37a white shadow. I wish I could read it in Japanese. But I
- 15:41want to tell you your principle is yes, so ros that his secretary,
- 15:46who has been a journalist, is the one who will write the text,
- 15:52but he will write it with everything that tells him, Barbara, with diar,
- 15:58with bits of his mother' s diary, with other references that Barns
- 16:04himself records on manetophone or at some point even some notes that he writes,
- 16:10that is, she Rose doesn' t know everything much less. He knows
- 16:14what tells him, what he values and is objective, which is the interesting
- 16:17part. And it' s objective, of course, that' s what
- 16:19' s interesting. You appear in the second part of the book. Yeah,
- 16:23but, well, I show up that I don' t know,
- 16:29I mean, there' s a reporter who has my name on it.
- 16:30I would have liked to be a journalist, but I didn' t enroll,
- 16:37but I couldn' t because I already taught in college with young children
- 16:41and who was a fool and I didn' t decide any work for some
- 16:45journalist. Good average overhang, but not anymore. I didn' t go
- 16:49to the exams, but then I' ve always liked journalism. Now here
- 16:53' s that Galician card that he does. It' s good to work
- 17:00as journalists, asking people and making a series of news you say. When
- 17:06we die, we don' t go back to nowhere where we' re
- 17:10supposed to come from before a zoid sphemate in unequal struggle with millions of rival
- 17:15congeners fecundates an obulus. Yeah, well, this is what Rose says,
- 17:18because that' s what I think, in a way, too, but
- 17:23curious that she' s struggling with millions of spermatozos and of only one pecundes
- 17:30the important lobe faces is us, we' re the only ones, because
- 17:37they' re not made of people. Yeah, cool. I think also
- 17:38that, but what is missing is that when I discovered it, because I
- 17:44didn' t know, when I discovered it, I thought well, what
- 17:49competitiveness between these spilts. Yeah, what an uneven fight. Yeah, and
- 17:53then we' re told we don' t have to be competitive and we
- 17:57' re already in it. It' s true. You say perhaps our
- 18:02essence, our spirit dwells somewhere before we are born and we are predestined to
- 18:07live what we have lived. Well, that' s what they say.
- 18:11That' s what they say, sounds a little like the eternal return.
- 18:12Of course, that' s a lot of fun because I think it'
- 18:17s back in fashion now what I' m saying is that actually writers are
- 18:22very normal people. Whoever thinks he' s a bip just because he'
- 18:25s a writer is a poor jerk, no doubt, but what we do
- 18:30is have like some open antennas that other people don' t have and don
- 18:33' t have or why they don' t have, but because they don
- 18:37' t have them open, because they haven' t opened them. And
- 18:37it' s funny that these days I was picking up a whole series.
- 18:41We were seeing, therefore, in a series of interviews with doctors, people,
- 18:45other people, apart from the classics that we already know, that pose
- 18:51just that and during an era, the era of the end of the nineteenth
- 18:59century, twenty, completely fashioned all the theories of the eternal return truth,
- 19:04even well, because there is a lot of literature and lots of magazines or
- 19:11articles, that is, that are very interesting, exciting. In relation to
- 19:18that matter, I mean that at that time it was everyday to talk about
- 19:22it. Yes, I made the eternal return. I' m thinking straight.
- 19:26Of course, yes, of course, and that is to say,
- 19:29but it was done with literature a lot. Yeah, you' ve ever
- 19:32been on that line that you thought you were dying. No. No,
- 19:37no, no, no, no. No. I' ve had that
- 19:40experience. A white shadow, as you rightly say, is not the white
- 19:45mountain. It' s a shadow, let' s not say more,
- 19:48a wonderful shadow, a pleasure. Thank you very much, thank you very much,