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Bengals Booth Podcast: You're My Best Friend · Bengals Booth Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The You're My Best Friend addition,
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  Speaker 1: as I sit down with best buds and reunited teammates
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  Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence and bj Hill. Then it's a fun facts
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  Speaker 1: chat with the Bengals top draft pick this year, Edge
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  Speaker 1: get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 1: My son is a college student at the University of Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: In this past school year, he and some of his
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  Speaker 1: pals took a road trip to see Mount Rushmore. I
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  Speaker 1: had a two part response, First, that's awesome and second,
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  Speaker 1: how long was the drive. When I learned it was
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  Speaker 1: only six hours, I knew what I would be doing
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  Speaker 1: the next time. My wife and I visited him at
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  Speaker 1: school in sure Enough. This week we made the track
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  Speaker 1: to South Dakota to see what is truly an awe
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  Speaker 1: inspiring achievement in art and engineering. A brilliant man named
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  Speaker 1: Gutzon Borglum was the primary sculptor, and he made models
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  Speaker 1: of the four presidents' heads in a studio that were
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  Speaker 1: one twelfth the size of the actual project. Then his
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  Speaker 1: crew used dynamite to carve away granted from the face
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  Speaker 1: of the mountain and used a fairly primitive measuring system
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  Speaker 1: to recreate the models to scale. The heads of Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt,
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  Speaker 1: and Lincoln are sixty feet tall. Next year will mark
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  Speaker 1: the one hundredth anniversary of when the project began, and
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  Speaker 1: if you've never been, I highly recommend it. There's plenty
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  Speaker 1: of other cool stuff nearby as well, and Rapid City
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  Speaker 1: is a fun place to stay. Mount Rushmore rules. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to football. When Dexter Lawrence traveled by private
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  Speaker 1: jet to take a physical and then sign a contract
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  Speaker 1: extension with the Bengals, his wife and daughter were on
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  Speaker 1: the plane, and so was an old friend, BJ Hill.
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  Speaker 1: The roots of that friendship go back to when BJ
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  Speaker 1: was a sophomore in college and Dexter was still in
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  Speaker 1: high school. Here's my conversation with a pair of best
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  Speaker 1: buds who have been reunited as teammates in Cincinnati. Let
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  Speaker 1: me start with this question. What is it about the
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  Speaker 1: other guy that you like and respect so much?
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  Speaker 2: Dexter?
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  Speaker 3: You go first, really, just this is personality. You know,
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  Speaker 3: ask anybody around the building. You know, he's a guy
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  Speaker 3: that gets along with any buddy, but it's true to
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  Speaker 3: himself always and I can respect that a lot.
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  Speaker 1: BJ.
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  Speaker 2: Mine.
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  Speaker 4: Mine is more like off the field, like just who
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  Speaker 4: he is as a man, like you, always have your
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  Speaker 4: back no matter what. He's a guy who cares about
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  Speaker 4: his brother, is always gonna take care of his brother
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  Speaker 4: and always be there for you.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna turn the clock back approximately eleven years.
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  Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, five star recruit, number two recruit in the country,
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  Speaker 1: goes on a visit to NC State and BJ Hill
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  Speaker 1: is picked to be the guy to host. What do
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  Speaker 1: you guys remember about that first meeting?
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  Speaker 2: Bj?
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  Speaker 1: Eure up first, It.
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  Speaker 2: Was actually more than one person. It was just me.
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  Speaker 4: We had like ten guys there, coaches, I think with
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  Speaker 4: the David Busters, I believe, or something like that, or
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  Speaker 4: tough golfer. We just sitting there, have a good time,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, it just didn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: BJ did a good job, I assume along with those
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  Speaker 1: other teammates.
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  Speaker 3: I remembered them, for sure, I remember them, but uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was for me. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of where we kind of connected. He stayed the Giants,
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  Speaker 3: but for me it was it was on a visit.
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  Speaker 1: You're both North Carolina guys. You're from wake Forest, You're
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  Speaker 1: from Oakboro.
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  Speaker 3: Similar towns, probably some wake Forest probably growed up, grew
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit miles away, smaller than wake Forest
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  Speaker 3: for sure, way smaller.
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  Speaker 1: So you considered NC state. You obviously chose to go
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  Speaker 1: to Clemson. In your first year at Clemson, your team's
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  Speaker 1: played each other. Clemson was heavily favored in Death Valley.
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  Speaker 1: You guys almost pulled off the upset. You missed an
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  Speaker 1: easy field goal with like two seconds to go. Clemson
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  Speaker 1: won the game in overtime. Is that one still hurt.
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  Speaker 4: Because that was a teange a lot, you know, for
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  Speaker 4: our program if we won that game, for sure, but
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  Speaker 4: you know it is with us.
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  Speaker 1: And does that one still rank among your favorites?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: All I remember was laying on the ground in the
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  Speaker 3: crowd roaring like I'm like, what's going on to get up?
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  Speaker 5: And he missed and we just took advantage of it
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  Speaker 5: after that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys maintain a friendship while you were in
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  Speaker 1: college playing at different places or did it rekindle when
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  Speaker 1: you were both with the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: I think he rekindled at the Giants, Yeah, because we
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  Speaker 3: wasn't messing.
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  Speaker 2: With so it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: So you got drafted by the Giants and then one
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  Speaker 1: year later you were selected by the Giants. You're in
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  Speaker 1: New York City to North Carolina, guys in the Big Apple.
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  Speaker 1: Did that help that bond get stronger?
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  Speaker 3: I think so, Like I think like just like like
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  Speaker 3: we kind of knew each other, so that made it
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  Speaker 3: for me. That made the transition easy. Just like here
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  Speaker 3: like we know each other. So this transition has been
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  Speaker 3: pretty smooth for me. But yeah, I say at the Giants,
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  Speaker 3: that's where I kind of rekindled it and it ain't
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  Speaker 3: gonna slow down.
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  Speaker 1: New York City can be a little bit intimidating when
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  Speaker 1: you're not from there. Did you help him adapt?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.
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  Speaker 4: It was a good transition, especially for me coming from
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  Speaker 4: a small town. Didn't know much about big cities or
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  Speaker 4: anything like that, only Raleigh, North Carolina. But it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of an easy transition because for one all that
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  Speaker 4: they was focused on football. Same with him, we're all
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  Speaker 4: about ball all We just wanted to win and play
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  Speaker 4: be on the defensive line. So we really kept the
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  Speaker 4: outside noise on the outside and did we had to
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  Speaker 4: do on the film.
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  Speaker 1: So when your teammates there together in New York, you
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  Speaker 1: got to see the other guy on the field firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: What do you respect about each other's games? You talked
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  Speaker 1: about the off field stuff earlier, but how about the
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  Speaker 1: on field stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I think his approach to the game, he's real, he's
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  Speaker 3: real consistent, Like you you know what his routine is
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  Speaker 3: going to be. You know, like his mindset going into
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  Speaker 3: the game, and you know that he's gonna do his
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  Speaker 3: job and you just got to do yours. So like
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  Speaker 3: I just I like his approach like and and that
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  Speaker 3: kind of like what was molding me? Like like he's
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  Speaker 3: like my vet kind of so like watching his approach,
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  Speaker 3: go out to practice.
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  Speaker 5: Early and go through his routines, and you know it
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  Speaker 5: ain't changed. So that's what I respect.
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  Speaker 1: And and the onfield stuff from your perspective, the.
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  Speaker 4: Same with him, the way he approached the game, the
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  Speaker 4: way he dominates games, and like he he had texted
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  Speaker 4: the games or even practice like he don't know anything.
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  Speaker 4: He asks questions like he don't know anything. So you
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  Speaker 4: love seeing guys who your eight year or whatever ask
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  Speaker 4: some questions, going out there and practice doing their all
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  Speaker 4: and not just you know, taking it easy, because you
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  Speaker 4: can get complacent in this game, especially how long you play.
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  Speaker 4: But he at texts each and every day. If his
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  Speaker 4: practice workouts games at a high level, you and you
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  Speaker 4: love to see that.
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  Speaker 1: So your teammates in New York for a few years,
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  Speaker 1: and then BJ got traded to Cincinnati just before the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season, where your heartbroken.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was tough. That was tough, and I went
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  Speaker 3: down with tough. I ain't believe him at first. I
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  Speaker 3: was trying to fight it. But you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, like just to be honest, like
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  Speaker 3: I think everything happens for a reason, and I think
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  Speaker 3: you know, me watching that and then talking to him
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  Speaker 3: almost every every every day he was here, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of just and now it's now we're back together,
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  Speaker 3: and it's just trying to take advantage of it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I tell him, like when I first got here,
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  Speaker 3: said we're not gonna waste this moment.
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  Speaker 5: So that's what that's what it was about.
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  Speaker 1: The trade worked out well for you right off the bat.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals went to the Super Bowl that first year.
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  Speaker 1: But were you sad that your buddy was left behind
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  Speaker 1: in New York?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Just like I said, this is the way when all went down,
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  Speaker 4: Probably I probably had one of my best camps I
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  Speaker 4: ever had there, just given to all I got, just
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  Speaker 4: to give myself a chance to get on the field there,
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  Speaker 4: and it just didn't work out. Even some of your
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  Speaker 4: best friends. It sucks, especially when you've been there for
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  Speaker 4: almost four almost there for four years.
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  Speaker 2: It sucked.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, like you said, everything happens for a reason.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here for a reason, and that's the one games.
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  Speaker 1: What was the Bengals Super Bowl run? Like for you?
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  Speaker 1: Watching DJ so like, so I wasn't.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't my rookie.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't watch too much of him until the playoffs started,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, he's really about to do this.
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  Speaker 5: About to do this, and then he's talking joke, talking
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  Speaker 5: joke all day every day.
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  Speaker 3: And then they get there and I'm like, wow, he
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  Speaker 3: made it to the super Bowl, and I was happy.
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  Speaker 3: I was like my wife, you guysd her, I was
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  Speaker 3: just in the in the living room, just cheesing and
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  Speaker 3: smiling the old time, just happy, you know, for him
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  Speaker 3: and his success, early success being traded.
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  Speaker 1: So this year, after seven years in New York, he
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  Speaker 1: decided to see ka trade. Did you reach out to
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  Speaker 1: be Ja for advice?
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  Speaker 5: I did? I did? I did?
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I say it was a little biased,
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  Speaker 3: but like I kind of understood where he was coming
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  Speaker 3: from because we just talked a lot, and I kind
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  Speaker 3: of understood, you know, how how the Bengals were and
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  Speaker 3: how they how they ran things around here. So it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's been smooth. And I think, you know, his
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  Speaker 3: influence helped a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: P j On behalf of all of us. Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: What did you say to help sell it?
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  Speaker 2: I just tell him the truth.
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  Speaker 4: And that's why as me as a man, as a brother,
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  Speaker 4: like I just got to tell him the truth. What
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  Speaker 4: I thought about the organization, teammates like this, said everybody,
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  Speaker 4: and he made a decision.
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  Speaker 1: So it came down. The news came down on a
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night, the night before you two guys were together
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  Speaker 1: for Bjay's early birthday party. Did you have an inkling?
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  Speaker 1: Did you know what was gonna happen the next day?
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  Speaker 5: Slightly?
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  Speaker 3: But on my end, I didn't truly know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so I always had to be like, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't fully commit until I fully fully knew it.
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  Speaker 5: But at the back of my mind, I was kind
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  Speaker 5: of understand.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of understand what was going on behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, when it came to fruition, I had
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  Speaker 3: to jump.
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  Speaker 1: We've learned since that it was in the works for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, or at least the Bengals were
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  Speaker 1: trying to get something done for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Did they ask you what kind of guy is he?
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  Speaker 1: Is this something we need to do?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? I didn't know anything about it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't know anything about it until everybody else
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  Speaker 4: knew about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I guess I just had We had
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  Speaker 4: a great conversation with some guys. Of course, you want
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  Speaker 4: a great guy like like DEXI and locker room who's
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  Speaker 4: good on the field at the field, go to other
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  Speaker 4: people to get along with other people. So you want
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  Speaker 4: to go like the senior locker room. So it's nothing
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  Speaker 4: about to say about him.
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  Speaker 1: What have these first few weeks been like together here
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 3: It's for me, it's been It's been good because now,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, I lead a lot in New York.
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  Speaker 3: But now I'm like, you know, I'm picking up on
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  Speaker 3: some of his habits, you know, to help me grow
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  Speaker 3: as a as a.
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  Speaker 5: Player and a man.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that this transition, you know, has just
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  Speaker 3: been what was what was bound to happening.
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  Speaker 1: What's been special for you?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, just having him around the building.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like just having him here at at least
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  Speaker 4: two or three more years on on my career. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: So like I'm all smell, Like I said, I really
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  Speaker 4: have nothing about to say say about Decks man. You,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, you love to have people in the
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  Speaker 4: building like him to make, for one, make your job easier,
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  Speaker 4: and the guy who's gonna help lead this group, and
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  Speaker 4: just a great teammate that you love.
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  Speaker 2: You love guys like that.
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  Speaker 1: He's the godfather of your kids.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I mean really, that's about the highest compliment you can
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  Speaker 1: pay to somebody in all seriousness.
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  Speaker 3: That a true honor. That was a true honor. And
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  Speaker 3: you know I got a boy. You know, well that
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  Speaker 3: was when they called us. We couldn't we couldn't turn
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  Speaker 3: that down.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to play a little game. I
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  Speaker 1: call know your best bud. I'm going to ask you
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  Speaker 1: five questions about the other guy. See how well you
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  Speaker 1: know your friend? All right, we know your current numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Bjware's ninety two, you wear ninety seven. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: the other guy's college number? What did bjwar at NC State?
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  Speaker 5: Ooh ninety eight?
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  Speaker 1: Boom, well done, well done? What did Dexter wear at Clemson? Ninety?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's let's take it back a step further.
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  Speaker 1: Both of your high school numbers were retired. What did
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  Speaker 1: bj waar right? West Stanley went.
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  Speaker 5: To the retirement It was a little dude, no single.
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  Speaker 2: Five.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what he wore at wake Forest High?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: It was office line correct, seventy seventy six, seventy one?
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  Speaker 4: What all right, Dexter has taking the lead.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know the other guys like high school team
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  Speaker 1: name the West Stanley Watts.
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  Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this sounds like it flows, Lions.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of flows. But it's the Cults, the wake Forest.
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  Speaker 2: What's rebels? I know that, all right?
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  Speaker 1: That was a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Each of you guys has interceptions in the NFL. BJ
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  Speaker 1: actually has three, two in the regular season, one in
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  Speaker 1: the postseason. Dexter has one, but it was last year,
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  Speaker 1: so it's fresh on your mind. Can you name a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that the other guy has picked off? Dexter? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know one of the three quarterbacks the BJ.
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  Speaker 5: Is picked remember him?
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  Speaker 2: I know?
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  Speaker 3: It was like a funky one. He was like one
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  Speaker 3: on he's on the ground and kind of it was
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  Speaker 3: a home game too. I think I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 5: I can't remember the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: That was Nick Mullins. I think was that the Vikings game?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had one in the AFC Championship game. That
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  Speaker 1: was the one. I thought you would know, Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: that was big. Do you know who he picked off
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  Speaker 1: last year?
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  Speaker 4: The one he got says down inside the five tackled
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  Speaker 4: by the quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, was it the Vikings? I believe no Chargers Chargers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like three yards from a big man touchdown
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  Speaker 1: that was in New York too, Right, yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 1: one more question. This is like the most obscure thing
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  Speaker 1: I could find about you guys. Do you know what
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  Speaker 1: part time job DJ Hill had in high school?
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  Speaker 5: I'll say something working with his hands.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's accurate. It's a hard guess if he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know it, know.
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  Speaker 5: It building, building construction or something.
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  Speaker 1: Bag to groceries at the food lineages.
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  Speaker 2: What you need, call me, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Dexter attended a type of camp for a couple of
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  Speaker 1: summers in high school. It was not a sports related camp.
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  Speaker 1: Any idea what camp he went to or what type
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  Speaker 1: of camp he went to?
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  Speaker 4: Whoa, I'm gonna say, you boy.
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  Speaker 1: Scout incorrect, math cam, math camp. You get a map
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  Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit? All right, this has
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  Speaker 1: been fun. Let's wrap it up on this note. This
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  Speaker 1: trade from the Bengals perspective, what statement do you think
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  Speaker 1: it made to the entire NFL PJ You go first.
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  Speaker 2: So we're here to win win games.
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  Speaker 4: Bringing a guy like this, this is not even just him,
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  Speaker 4: this is who he just brought in. This off season
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  Speaker 4: that we mean, we mean business and we were ready
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  Speaker 4: to win games.
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  Speaker 2: We really went now.
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  Speaker 5: Extra Yeah, just just feeding off that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: For me, I told it, it was easy for me, you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to make this decision and for them, you know, like
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: one of my friends really was like they really giving
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: a ten for you like not like being like I'm like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: They was like, that's pretty big, and I was like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: you know, for me, I'm just like I'm in a moment,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: like I'm trying to, you know, just understand. But he
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: was had he had me think about, you know, the
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: tenth overall pick. That's a big pick. And you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: when my mom said got to that, it was probably
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: like the day of really where I truly understood what
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: that meant and you know and just now I just
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: got to, you know, be the guy, you.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Know, uh, be the guy b be who I.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Am, and you know, just continue to work and you know,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: continue my career.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Best buds reunited in Cincinnati, adding years to BJ Hill's career.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: We've learned today, Dexter Lawrence and BJ Hill, thanks for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: your time.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you, good you.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll get to know the Bengals cop draft
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: pick this year, Texas A and M standout Cashus Howell.
• 17:40
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• 18:06
  Speaker 1: draft pick Cassius Howell. Here's the person under the pads.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with second round draft pick
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Cassius Howell out of Kansas City, Missouri. You're no longer
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan, but you used to be, so I
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: want to get your reaction January of twenty twenty two,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: when the Bengals went to Arrowhead and beat the Chiefs
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl. How depressed were you
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: that day?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was definitely a little shook a,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: you know, just because we had been doing good. But yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: you know, I was definitely, know, definitely mad whenever y'all
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: came in and it kind of got right with us.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: But you know, like I said, I'm at a point
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: time where I don't really care about the Kansas City Chiefs,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: and I'm just I'm just thankful and so blessed to
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: be in a situation where I'm man, I'm thankful to
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: be a Cincinnati Bengal.
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  Speaker 1: You are a Bengal now, and we are delighted to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: have you here in Cincinnati. You attended Rockhurst High School
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City, the alma mater of Ted Lass star
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Jason Sudakis, among others. It sounds like you were a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: late bloomer physically. How big were you, say, in ninth
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: or tenth grade?
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, ninth grade, I was probably like five six, five seven,
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: like one hundred and forty pounds. I was a freshman
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: B team running back in safety, and yeah, so I
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: was just like you said, I was a late bloomer.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: That next year, summer wind of my sophomore year, I
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: had had a.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Decent little grossburg grew, you know, kind of got some
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: muscleamia stuff.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: And that was my first year playing defensive end actually,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: so yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, things clearly changed. You had six sacks in one
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: high school game. What was that like?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, that was crazy.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: That was my first year playing varsity as a as
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: a defensive end the second year playing defensive end as
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: a whole.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: And it was crazy.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: I was really just in a flow state, like I
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: really wasn't out there thinking. I was just instinctively reacting
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: and I was getting home. So you know, I'm just
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: glad to be able to have my name in the
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: history books for something so so so crazy and so positive.
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  Speaker 1: The poor tackle that you abused in that game. He
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: feels a lot better now that you're a second round
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  Speaker 1: NFL draft yeh.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm already know he probably definitely feels better.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't didn't go through all that hectic stuff,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: you know, go go fail algebra examined and have to
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: go guard me. You know, I probably probably makes it
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: feel better about itself for sure.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: We're chatting with cash Is Howell. Despite your high school
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: high school success, you are not heavily recruited. Did you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: get any indication from college coaches why that was the case.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Honestly, it was really just COVID, you know, from from
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: from tots of Bomb. They just all say, you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: they just with the roster spots, you know, the rosters
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: being filled up with the seventh year you know, COVID guys.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: You know, they just.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Didn't really feel like it was worth the risk to
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: take it on, you know, just with me not being
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: able to get to any visits or any camps. Uh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: you know, just just no, no team honestly felt like
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: I was I was worth the worth the offer.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So did it put a chip on your shoulder? And
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is it still there?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: One of many chimps chips on my shoulder. You know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: I've kind of had to deal with being overlooked since
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: high school, you know, just from from freshman. It is
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: where I'm in now, at every score that I've been to,
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: so you know, it's it's put one of mini chips
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: on my shoulder. And like I said, I if I
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: could go back and do it again, I'd have exactly.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: How it is right now.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: Like I said, I feel like it's.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Definitely helped develop my character and develop me into the
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: man that God sees so best fits today.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You got your college start at Bowling Green. You spent
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: three years with the Falcons. What was that experience like?
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was definitely a great experience, you know, regardless
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: of not getting any Power five offers or anything like that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: A high school you know, I appreciate the excuse me,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: the whole Bowling Green staff that you know, decided to
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: take a risk on a guy that you know, didn't
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: really never see me before, and yeah, you know came
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: in developed me, you know, into the honestly the player
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: that I am today. So you know, like I said,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: it was a great experience. Met a lot of great teammates,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: met a lot of great coaches, and.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was great experience for sure.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: In your final year there, you led the mac in sacks.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Then you elected to transfer to a bigger school, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I imagine the recruiting process was very different. What was
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it like to now be courted by everybody?
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, you know, it was night and day
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: just coming out of high school. You know, I was
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: able to go on my first you know, official visit
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: and stuff like that to SEC school, you know, thankfully.
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: So no, it really just just just blew my mind
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: out of the water. It was such a great experience
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: to you know, just really just kind of had that
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: feeling like you know, you're not crazy.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Like that feeling that you got you can play at
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: the highest level, like you know, you could really do
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: this and you had the platform right Now, it's just
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: really about how you're going to do it once you
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: get there.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You certainly showed it at Texas a and m SEC
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Defensive player of the Year last year eleven and a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: half sacks to lead the conference, including sacks on three
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: consecutive plays in the second game of the season. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: asked you about six in a high school game, but
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: how surreal was it to get to the quarterback on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: three straight snaps.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it was just kind of like just
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: kind of just throwing it back to the high school.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: It's just kind of like one of the things like
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: it was almost like a flow state. Like I'm just
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: I just wasn't thinking. I was just letting my body
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: do whatever it felt like based on you know, what
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I was giving, and uh, yeah, you know ended up
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: working out in my favor. So you know, I'm just
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I'm just thankful for for God for giving me this
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: vessel and uh, you.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: Know, just putting me in his positions today.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen references to your ghost move or ghost moves
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. Explain the ghost move.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the ghost of all that is is just getting
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: a good get off on the ball and then once
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: you get to the point of attach, you know, throwing
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: that that long arm extension, extension out to you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: give the tackle the illusion that you're gonna go power
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: and then obviously, you know, once he anchors and stops
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: his feet, you kind of just you wipe that that
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: arm through, bring that wipe that shoulder through, and uh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: you know, accelerate your feet, bring up the rip and
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: reach and you know, go get the sack.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Go get you a strip sack, Go get paid. Brother.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, do you disappear like a ghost with that move?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: You know it's a couple of clips from this past
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: year where you know, you can see you can see
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: it firsthand. So I feel like that's why I like
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: to call it a ghost, because it's kind of like
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: now you see me, now you don't, so you know, yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: for sure.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: We're chatting with Cashius. Howel you were the ninth pick
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of the second round, number forty one for all. Describe
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: your draft experience.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's been a honestly a crazy experience,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: just from you know, the season ending to to heading
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: right into you know, combine training at to combine you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: doing all the means and meeting with the with the
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: teams there, going straight into Pro day training, right after
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Pro Day, thirty visits, right after thirty visits draft. So
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: you know, it's been a kind of a crazy experience,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: but you know it's been a great, great experience overall,
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: you know, And like I said, I'm just I'm just
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: so thankful to be a Cincinnati manger. Like man, it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: just God has blessed me in so many ways and
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: gave me so much grace.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Like I'm just I'm just so thankful.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: There's a website, Cassius Enterprises dot com that's pretty impressive.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's part football, it's part business. Did you start it?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Did somebody started for you? Tell me a little bit
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: about that website.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it was kind of a family thing
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: we decided to do to you know, just kind of
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: give give you know, people more of an insight of
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: who I am, who I am, you know, outside just
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: the football flair, because you know, I feel like oftentimes,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: you know, just with the fans and everything, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: player can get caught up and you know kind of
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: not feel like a human like you know, people just
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: kind of treat them as a football player, you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: And like I said, I just kind of wanted to
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: be viewed that as more than that. You know, like
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm uh, you know, just just kind of
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: getting my feet wet within the real estate to.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Sign off of my first house. That's where I have
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: my draft party actually.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: And yeah, just just like I said, just kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: given given the fans more of an insight that you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: I'm It's bigger than a football.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Political you know, I'm a god fearing man.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm a man that you know wants to
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: do right by his finances and just do the right
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: things in life.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And real estate is the area where you see yourself
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: making an impact off the field.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Most definitely, you know, like I said, I'm just starting
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: to get my feet wet right now with like with
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: me just signed off on my first house, but you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: most definitely want to get into more you know, commercial
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: real estate with residents of real estate, and you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: just just really just expand my knowledge and expand the
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: expand you know, expand the spand the land.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, make that money grow, all right. A few
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: wild card topics now for Cassius Howell. Who is your
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: all time favorite athlete in any sport and why Paul George.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Man, I don't know if y'all remember what year is that,
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Probably like twenty thirteen Paul George and he was on
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: the Pacers twenty four he was going crazy on Lebron.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Like I remember, I had a fat head of Paul
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: George in my room. I made a in third grade.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: I have made a like a little presentation on him
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: about him and stuff like, Man, he was just a dog.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: He was one of the ones before he got injured.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: So so I definitely would say, Paul.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: George, other than sports, what do you do well?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Other than sports?
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: What do I do well?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like I just am a good person overra
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: you know, like I said, Uh, you know, I like
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: to you know, put God at the forefront of you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: just every decision at the forefront of my life, honestly,
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: and uh you know through that, I just you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: I just feel like, you know, I like to treat
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: my neighbor with respect no matter who you are. You know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: you could be homeless, man, you could be the president.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna treat you all with the same respects. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: you know, like I said, I just I just like
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: to go about my life and you know, the righteous
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: way and the way.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: That God was see so best fits.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: So just just trying to really just just just live
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: like Jesus honestly, all right.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Final fun fact, This one's kind of deep. If you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: could meet anyone in history, living or deceased, who would
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that person be.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Jesus Christ, you know, just as I, you know, just
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: continue to strengthen my relationship with God and to keep
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: just taking deep, deep, deep guds into the Bible, into
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: the Scripture. It's just like I want to I would
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: really want to talk to him and.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: See like how like how he did that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: Like you know, that's the It's only been one perfect
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: man to walk this world, and it was Jesus Christ,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: and they crucifix him and just constantly just just just
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: just went down to him, and I just want to
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: really just pick his mind and see like.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: Like how did he do that? Like how did he have.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: So much persistence through through so much adversity and to
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: where he was able to carry the the weight of
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: everybody in the world sins and fulfilled prophecy and and really,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: you know, for the better man of humanity, to give
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: humanity another chance have to fall in so short from
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: God's grace to give humanity another.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Shot, you know, salvation with our creator.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: So you know, I'll we just pick his mind and
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: just just ask him just about how it was, how
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: he was able to do the things.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: That he was able to do.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You're off the hot seat. I appreciate your time. Welcome
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to Cincinnati.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I appreciate you so much. Thank you for
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: having me.
• 28:15
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