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She Never Fired the Gun_ But Got Life_ _ Killer Women With Piers Morgan · History Dark

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Take her out to picture, would he still be living?
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  Speaker 1: So she was the main cause.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to go on a date. He just
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  Speaker 2: thought he was going on a date. About to go
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  Speaker 2: on a date.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning to you all.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I feel so bad for you, Jennifer. I know this
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  Speaker 3: started January 23rd, first period science class, out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: First, it's kind of funny. It's not funny, is it?
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  Speaker 5: Not no more, it's not.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: Not at all. If you have a cure for the hiccups,
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  Speaker 3: she needs you.
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  Speaker 7: She's hiccuping 24 hours a day.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, from media sensation to murderer.
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  Speaker 8: If we take the facts as truth, she lured a
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  Speaker 8: guy under false pretenses and he wound up dead.
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  Speaker 9: Lock her up.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you feel like to be called a murderer?
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, damn, why did I do what I did?
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  Speaker 5: Why did I hang out with the people that I
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  Speaker 5: hung out with? Why did I do this and why
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  Speaker 5: did I do that? And now I will carry this
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  Speaker 5: title for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you'll carry two titles. You know, you were the
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  Speaker 10: hiccup girl and now you're the murderer.
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  Speaker 3: I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 5: When I first came on this compound, I had a
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  Speaker 5: lady actually tell me, she was like, aren't you the
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  Speaker 5: hiccup killer? And I just looked at her like, and
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  Speaker 5: I just kept going because there's no justifying to what
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  Speaker 5: took place that night.
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  Speaker 4: I have a free call from.
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  Speaker 11: Jennifer, me.
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  Speaker 4: An inmate at Pinellas County Jail.
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  Speaker 12: Hi, Mama.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 13: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in jail.
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  Speaker 14: Why are you in jail?
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  Speaker 3: For murder in the first degree.
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  Speaker 15: Who'd you kill?
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  Speaker 3: I ain't killed nobody.
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  Speaker 13: Well, then how are they charging you with murder? Because
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  Speaker 13: I set everything up.
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  Speaker 2: Who were you trying to kill, Jennifer?
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  Speaker 12: Nobody.
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  Speaker 16: It wasn't supposed to happen like that, Mom.
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  Speaker 13: Mom, I'll call you when I can because I gotta.
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  Speaker 14: Go.
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  Speaker 16: Mommy's trying to make visitation, please.
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  Speaker 13: All right, Jennifer, I love you.
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  Speaker 15: I love you too, Mom.
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  Speaker 7: We're learning now more about the murder arrest of the
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  Speaker 7: Florida teenager who gained fame for her persistent case of hiccups.
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  Speaker 2: This case can be seen as a tragedy on several levels.
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  Speaker 11: Certainly for the family of the victim, also for Jennifer
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  Speaker 11: Mee's family.
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  Speaker 15: I'm worried about my daughter right now, and I'd like
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  Speaker 15: some privacy. Jennifer Mee's mother seems stunned by the murder
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  Speaker 15: charge facing her daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Can you tell me what your family's going.
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  Speaker 4: Through right now, ma'am?
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  Speaker 2: America was gripped by the unfolding story of the so-called
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  Speaker 2: Hiccup Girl, now charged with murder. I was heading to
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  Speaker 2: the crime scene with Dave Wozinski, the lead homicide detective
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  Speaker 2: on the case, and one of the first to arrive
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  Speaker 2: here that night. The victim was 22-year-old Shannon Griffin, a
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  Speaker 2: talented high school footballer who had moved here from Mississippi.
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  Speaker 2: He thought he was going on a date with Jennifer,
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  Speaker 2: but she and her accomplices had other ideas. When you
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  Speaker 2: got here, what was your gut reaction about what may
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  Speaker 2: have happened?
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  Speaker 11: We're really close to downtown, and... On a Saturday night,
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  Speaker 11: it wouldn't be uncommon for someone to come downtown to
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  Speaker 11: possibly look for narcotics or something have gone wrong during
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  Speaker 11: a narcotic exchange. So you start in your mind, you
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  Speaker 11: start thinking, okay, this is either a drug deal that
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  Speaker 11: went bad or a robbery that went bad.
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  Speaker 2: Were you to start with of the belief that Jennifer
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  Speaker 2: Mee was involved or did you think that she was
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  Speaker 2: just the girlfriend of one of the guys who died?
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  Speaker 11: We had her come to the station, and then very quickly,
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  Speaker 11: based upon the interviews that we did, it became very
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  Speaker 11: apparent that she was involved. She was the prime person
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  Speaker 11: who contacted the victim, who was Shanon Griffin. She contacted him,
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  Speaker 11: she brought him down here, she lured him here, and
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  Speaker 11: they were all gonna try to get some money from him.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that he thought he was coming on
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  Speaker 2: some kind of date?
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  Speaker 11: I think he thought he was coming to meet a girl,
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  Speaker 11: that it was gonna be a social activity, and possibly
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  Speaker 11: a small amount of marijuana was gonna be sold. But
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  Speaker 11: I think that based upon the way he was dressed,
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  Speaker 11: In the conversation that he had with his family before leaving,
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  Speaker 11: number one, he was coming to meet a girl. That
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  Speaker 11: shouldn't be a death sentence.
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  Speaker 14: All rise, please.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in the jail, please stand. Raise your right hand
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  Speaker 2: to receive the oath.
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  Speaker 17: Jennifer Meek.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, this is me.
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  Speaker 11: The allegation is murder in the first degree.
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  Speaker 17: I do find probable cause.
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  Speaker 7: Your bond is currently zero.
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  Speaker 17: Can you appoint a lawyer to help you?
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  Speaker 16: OK.
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  Speaker 7: All right, I'll appoint a lawyer to represent you.
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  Speaker 2: What fascinated America was this basic question. Even though Jennifer
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  Speaker 2: didn't pull the trigger, had this seemingly innocent teenager knowingly
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  Speaker 2: lured a man to his death? Jennifer is currently serving
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  Speaker 2: a life sentence with little possibility of ever being released. Jennifer,
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  Speaker 2: how are you?
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  Speaker 3: Good, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: Good to meet you.
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  Speaker 3: Nice to meet you, too.
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  Speaker 2: Come with us. I've been granted an hour with the
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  Speaker 2: hiccup girl. Just this way. Is this a prison tattoo?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 3: JDD.
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  Speaker 2: Who does that in there?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not allowed to talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you're not?
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  Speaker 14: No.
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  Speaker 2: So someone does it as a hacker. This guy, Shanon,
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  Speaker 2: he's a nice guy. He came to the area from
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  Speaker 2: Katrina where the hurricane had decimated so many lives. He,
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  Speaker 2: like so many people, was attracted initially to you because
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  Speaker 2: you were famous. You were the hiccup girl.
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  Speaker 3: I could say that then most likely, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because back then a lot of people befriended me because
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  Speaker 5: of the name that I had gotten and of course
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  Speaker 5: the 15 minutes of fame.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, so.
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  Speaker 10: What is your motivation for interacting with him?
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  Speaker 3: At that time it was to sell drugs.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know nothing more, nothing less of the situation
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  Speaker 5: that end up occurring.
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  Speaker 2: He thinks he's on a date. He tells his cousin
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  Speaker 2: he's going on a date.
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  Speaker 5: See, and when I heard that, I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: was blowed by it because last I knew he was
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  Speaker 5: buying marijuana.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about no date.
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  Speaker 10: We know he made himself look very smart that night.
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  Speaker 10: He put on cologne. He told his cousin he was
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  Speaker 10: going on a date.
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  Speaker 2: He clearly had been led to believe by you that
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  Speaker 2: this was perhaps partly to get some marijuana, but also
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  Speaker 2: to have a date with you. Had you given him
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  Speaker 2: any reason to think that?
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  Speaker 3: Not that I can remember to tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Remember like 100% facts of what really led up to
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  Speaker 5: everything that night.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose, Jennifer, what I would say is
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  Speaker 2: you're not stupid. No. I can tell you're not stupid.
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  Speaker 2: You're street smart.
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  Speaker 10: It seems very odd to me that you can't remember
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  Speaker 10: such critical parts of this because obviously the only reason
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  Speaker 10: Shanon is dead is because you lured him to a
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  Speaker 10: situation where he ends up dying. And so I would
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  Speaker 10: have thought that your brain, especially sitting here for the
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  Speaker 10: rest of your life, that your brain would think all
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  Speaker 10: the time about the sequence of events, and yet you
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  Speaker 10: seem incredibly vague.
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  Speaker 1: Take her out the picture, would he still be living?
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  Speaker 1: So she was the main cause.
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  Speaker 15: Can't ever accept her being called a murderer. I know
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  Speaker 15: what her conviction was, but I also know who she
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  Speaker 15: is as a person.
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  Speaker 12: On that night, Jennifer Mee had contacted Shanon Griffin for
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  Speaker 12: the purposes of bringing him to downtown St. Petersburg so
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  Speaker 12: that they could conduct a drug transaction. Part of that
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  Speaker 12: conversation would have possibly included a date with Jennifer May.
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  Speaker 18: Mr.
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  Speaker 12: Griffin gets dressed up in new clothes, puts on cologne,
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  Speaker 12: rides his motor scooter to the area. He meets with
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  Speaker 12: Jennifer May in the front alleyway of a house that
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  Speaker 12: was for sale. She indicates that the people that sell
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  Speaker 12: them the marijuana are located down the alleyway. He is
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  Speaker 12: confronted by Lamont Newton and Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Leron Rayford.
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  Speaker 12: They probably asked for his money. A struggle ensued where
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  Speaker 12: a gun was pulled.
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  Speaker 11: It's obvious there was a pretty good physical struggle that happened.
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  Speaker 11: It seems to me that Shanon was winning. That's probably
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  Speaker 11: the decision. At that point, when you're starting to lose
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  Speaker 11: a fight, one of the problems with bringing a gun
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  Speaker 11: to a fight is then now what do you do?
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  Speaker 2: In Florida, if you commit a robbery and somebody dies,
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  Speaker 2: everyone involved can be charged with murder. Which might explain
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  Speaker 2: why Jennifer didn't mention the robbery in her first police interview.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, this is Detective Gary Gibson. It's Sunday, 10-24-2010. With
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  Speaker 4: me is Jennifer. Me, we're talking about a homicide that
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  Speaker 4: occurred last night. Who was the aggressor?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 4: Who was the one upset?
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  Speaker 13: When Leron found out that he had some type of
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  Speaker 13: relation going on with his girlfriend, Leron snapped, grabbed the
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  Speaker 13: man up, choked him, and pulled the gun out of
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  Speaker 13: the book bag and put it to the man's head
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  Speaker 13: and told the man not to say anything and brought
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  Speaker 13: the man to the back of the house and shot him.
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  Speaker 7: In police audio recordings, Jennifer is heard giving two versions
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  Speaker 7: of what took place that night. First, she says the
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  Speaker 7: shooting was part of a love triangle involving the victim,
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  Speaker 7: Shanon Griffin, one of the suspects Leron.
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  Speaker 2: Why did you lie?
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  Speaker 3: I was afraid. I'm not even gonna lie, I was afraid.
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  Speaker 5: When I started thinking about everything, I was like, oh
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  Speaker 5: my goodness, I could possibly be going to prison for
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  Speaker 5: the rest of my life, because I know in the
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  Speaker 5: state of Florida, if you are charged with, I think,
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  Speaker 5: I forget what they call it, principle or something like that,
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  Speaker 5: you're just as guilty as the person that has pulled
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  Speaker 5: the trigger.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, this is an unbelievable moment. You're a 19-year-old girl,
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  Speaker 10: No criminal record. You're with other people who, although they're
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  Speaker 10: a bit dodgy, also have no criminal records. And suddenly
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  Speaker 10: you're facing life without parole for first-degree murder.
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  Speaker 3: It was mind-blowing.
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  Speaker 5: It was mind-blowing because in my mind I was like,
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  Speaker 5: how could I be so young and dumb and naive
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  Speaker 5: to fall into a trap so easily, so to speak?
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  Speaker 5: Why couldn't I ever just have stayed home? Why couldn't
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  Speaker 5: I have been a good daughter?
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  Speaker 3: Why did I.
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  Speaker 14: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Why did I want to do my own thing? Why
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  Speaker 5: did I not want to listen?
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  Speaker 12: I've seen her cry at the verdict, and I've seen
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  Speaker 12: her cry at the sentencing, but I don't confuse those
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  Speaker 12: with being remorseful as to her actions.
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  Speaker 15: She is a very lovable little girl, but unfortunately she's
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  Speaker 15: very impressionable and she likes to do things to make
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  Speaker 15: her friends happy.
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer's mother and sisters had agreed to meet me. They've
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  Speaker 2: moved to Tennessee, but today they're back in Florida and
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  Speaker 2: had just made a rare visit to see her in prison.
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  Speaker 2: Hi there.
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  Speaker 17: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you. Good to see you as well.
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  Speaker 1: Hi there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Piers. Good to see you.
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  Speaker 13: Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she doesn't seem very happy. I'm Piers. Good to
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  Speaker 2: see you. So you've just been to the prison I
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  Speaker 2: hear to see Jennifer. How was that for you guys,
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  Speaker 2: her little sisters? Emotional.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah?
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  Speaker 19: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How often have you actually physically been able to see her?
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  Speaker 16: Like six times since we moved.
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  Speaker 2: They're very hard for her, of course, when.
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  Speaker 4: You all leave.
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  Speaker 3: She cries a lot whenever we leave.
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  Speaker 2: What do you feel about what happened to her?
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  Speaker 16: That it wasn't fair.
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  Speaker 14: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because I feel like she was sentenced too long. In
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  Speaker 3: different states, you want to get that long, and different
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  Speaker 3: people want to.
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  Speaker 2: Get that much. I mean, you knew her better than
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  Speaker 2: most people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: To lure a guy that she didn't know... through social media.
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  Speaker 5: She followed whatever other people wanted her to follow, and
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  Speaker 5: if she was by herself or with her family, she
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't ever do anything like that.
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  Speaker 16: She was much different when she was around us, but
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  Speaker 16: when she was with her partner, she was just, you know,
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  Speaker 16: her friends or her partner, she was just a completely
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  Speaker 16: different person.
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  Speaker 2: She just acted all big and bad.
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  Speaker 16: And just tried to stick out.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of girl was Jennifer when she was growing up?
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  Speaker 15: She was always very happy, always wanted to be the
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  Speaker 15: little mother to her younger siblings. She helped me in
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  Speaker 15: so many ways with her sisters growing up, whether it
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  Speaker 15: be getting a bottle for them when they were very young,
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  Speaker 15: to wanting to read stories to them when she could
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  Speaker 15: read herself, and just a joy to be around.
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  Speaker 2: Was she well behaved?
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  Speaker 15: Always until we moved to Florida and she started being
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  Speaker 15: in a area where, you know, she became a teenager
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  Speaker 15: and things were a lot different from where we lived
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  Speaker 15: in a very small town in Vermont. She started wanting
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  Speaker 15: to explore. She started getting a little bit rebellious because
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  Speaker 15: her and her stepdad didn't always see eye to eye.
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  Speaker 15: That kind of brings us to where she had the
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  Speaker 15: hiccups and it got a little bit worse because she
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  Speaker 15: felt like, you know, who are you to tell me
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  Speaker 15: what to do? Do you know who I am type
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  Speaker 15: attitude towards her stepfather?
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  Speaker 10: Can you believe that Jennifer got herself into a situation
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  Speaker 10: where she would lure somebody she didn't know on the
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  Speaker 10: internet for the very least a beating.
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  Speaker 15: I find it very hard to believe and I do
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  Speaker 15: know that it happened I don't believe that she was
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  Speaker 15: the mastermind as people called her behind that I've been
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  Speaker 15: told that it was the guys trying to get her
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  Speaker 15: to do that and she just basically went along as
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  Speaker 15: a bait if you will Jennifer on her own I
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  Speaker 15: don't believe would ever do anything like that Have you.
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  Speaker 2: Ever tried to contact the family of.
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  Speaker 15: I talked to her during the trial, his mom, and
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  Speaker 15: told her that I would basically give any limb in
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  Speaker 15: my body to have things change from what happened that night.
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  Speaker 15: Gave her a hug, told her how sorry I was.
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  Speaker 2: She knew who you were, obviously.
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  Speaker 15: During trial, we were in the cafeteria.
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  Speaker 2: Did she say anything to you when you did that?
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  Speaker 2: Just gave me a hug and.
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  Speaker 3: Really, what can you say?
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  Speaker 2: The murder victim, Shenon Griffin, had grown up here in Petal, Mississippi,
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  Speaker 2: which had been hard hit by Hurricane Katrina. At school,
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  Speaker 2: he was passionate about football and was an outstanding player.
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  Speaker 19: I would hope that he fought for his life. I
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  Speaker 19: would hope that his family and his coaches and his
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  Speaker 19: peers had instilled in him that want to live and
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  Speaker 19: that fight.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't have did it without a gun, because he
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  Speaker 1: was that tough.
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  Speaker 18: It's just a waste.
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  Speaker 19: Of Shanon's life, of course, and of the three people
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  Speaker 19: that were involved as well.
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  Speaker 20: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a waste of their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Even today, his grandmother's still dealing with it, because when
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  Speaker 1: I talked to her about it a couple days ago,
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  Speaker 1: she just broke out in tears. She haven't got over
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  Speaker 1: it yet. She's still suffering the loss, and it'll probably
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  Speaker 1: be with her the rest of her life.
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  Speaker 2: She can't even talk about it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That's how hurt she are.
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  Speaker 2: Do you accept that if you hadn't lured him that
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  Speaker 2: night in the way that you did, that he'd still
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  Speaker 2: be alive?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what you mean by.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me spell it out for you.
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  Speaker 10: You were the one that he contacted on the social
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  Speaker 10: network site. You were the one that encouraged him to
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  Speaker 10: come over, knowing he was at the very best gonna
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  Speaker 10: get a.
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  Speaker 2: Beating and be robbed. So you had all the power here.
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  Speaker 10: You're the person he knows, albeit just through a social
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  Speaker 10: network page. So you had the power to either lure
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  Speaker 10: him to what happened or not.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I wish, I wish I would have been more, I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't know what the proper word to use is, more,
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  Speaker 5: I don't wanna say open-minded, but more alerted to the situation.
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  Speaker 10: More of a decent human being, Jennifer. I mean, let's
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  Speaker 10: be brutally honest here. At the time, you were doing
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: loads of drugs. You were selling loads of drugs. You know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 10: it's a descent into a pretty dark kind of life.
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: There's a gun, and then this guy gets sucked into this,
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: and the gun ends up being used to kill him.
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: This is not a world of, I wouldn't hurt a fly.
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: This is a world of, you come into this world,
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: something bad's going to happen to you.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, people have their own opinions. It is what
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: it is. But also at the same time, he didn't
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: deserve to die. He didn't.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: And, you know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: What I'm trying to get inside is your.
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: How much responsibility you're prepared to take. You're serving life
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: without parole. As things stand, you'll never come out of here, right?
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: You've nothing to lose by being completely honest about this.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And I hear you.
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: Saying, I'd never heard a fly, everybody knows that. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: then I also hear you say, yeah, I got this
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: guy over and he was going to get beaten up,
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: he was going to get robbed. That doesn't sit very
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: easily with, I wouldn't have heard a fly.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying, but also in the same
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: perspective of everything, is when somebody tells me they want weed.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I tell my co-defendant, the one that does deal with
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: the weed, listen, somebody wants weed.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, tell him. I don't know if I have the weed.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Tell him I have the weed and we'll meet. Okay,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that's what I do.
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: You introduce him to the two guys and then you disappear.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Why do you disappear?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Because I thought they were going to just... I don't
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: want to say beat him up because it was two
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: against one, you know what I mean? Not both of
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: my co-defendants aren't, like, big guys, you know what I mean?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: But for one dude, you know what I mean?
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I thought they could, you know, get what they were
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: going to get from him and then go on about
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: their business.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But get that how?
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: By physically dealing with him?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not, you know, trying to kill him.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Because who would want... Now, this is how I think.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Why would somebody want to kill somebody over whatever, how much,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: half ounce of weed is what? $ 55 or something like that,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: $ 55 or $ 60.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Why would somebody want to kill somebody over that? I still,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to this day, I don't understand that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: He was killed because he put up a fight. He's
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: a big guy, it turned out. And he's got these
• 21:41
  Speaker 10: two blokes trying to rob him.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And so he puts up a fight, as a lot
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of people would. You know that he's going to get robbed,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: and you know he's going to get a beating. It's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: not a massive leap to imagine, particularly if there's a
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: gun in the house, that this could escalate very quickly
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: into something very nasty.
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: I mean.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: How shocked really could you be?
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: People ask me all the time, they're like, did you
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: know about this gun? I was like, no, I didn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: know there was a gun involved until after I got arrested.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Right, but you did know that they had a gun?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't know. I did not know.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: You told the police that you were aware of a
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: gun a week before?
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: No, after the fact, after everything happened, of course I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: knew there was a gun because he was shot and
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: killed three times.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: But you told the.
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: Police that you were aware a week before there'd been
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: a gun?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: A gun around.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: No, I don't remember that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I don't recall that at all because I didn't even know.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: If I knew there was a gun in the house
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: that I lived in, I would have been in fear
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: for my own life. So I don't want to say
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: that I knew weeks prior to all this that there
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: was a gun in the house.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: No, that's incorrect.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: About five minutes ago, you identified a photo of a
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: revolver And you said a person's had that the last week,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: had the gun. Who's that person?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Do you know his last name?
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: And that's the person who has had that gun.
• 23:09
  Speaker 20: Okay.
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: I don't give a damn who did it. I give
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: a damn about proving they did it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: Well, she told her mother in her own words that
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: she set the whole thing up.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Even now, it's like I still don't understand why they
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: shot and killed him. But LaRon had to sit there
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: and kill this young man.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: How many bullets were actually fired and how many actually
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: hit Shanon?
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: It was a six-shot revolver. All six shots were fired.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: Four struck Shanon Griffin. Three of them went center chest,
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: just a little bit over by the right side of
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: the nipple. One hit through the shoulder and was a
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: through and through. The three that went in the chest stayed.
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: The through and through, when it passed through his body,
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: changed direction and impacted on the building. And there's also
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: where you can see a visible sign back there. That's
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: where we believe the sixth round also impacted.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: One of the really perplexing parts of all this is
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that having shot Shannon dead, these two guys leave the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: gun at the crime scene.
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: The fact that they left the murder weapon behind certainly
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: indicates the panic that was going on with them, depending
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: on which one you want to believe left the gun.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: As Shannon was left for dead in the alleyway, Jennifer,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend Lamont, and Laurent fled to an apartment on
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the other side of the city. They had desperately tried
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to cover their tracks. Blood-stained clothes were found soaking in bleach.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And the murder victim's wallet was found hidden in an
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: air vent. Jennifer, what are you thinking? You're now on
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the run with.
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: Two people who've just killed somebody that you have lured
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: to their death, albeit not thinking he's gonna die, but
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: you've lured him to be robbed and beaten, and now
• 25:39
  Speaker 10: he's dead. And you're now on the run with the
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: people who shot him dead.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I had nowhere to go.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I was not gonna go back to my mom's house
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: and explain to my mom, oh, well, I'm back home
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: because I'm scared for my life now. I'm not gonna
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: put my mom in that predicament or danger when she.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Has four other kids.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Were you panicking?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, I was panicking.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, who in their right mind would want to
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: stay with somebody that just killed somebody, not knowing what
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: could be next?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Did you sleep with Lamont that night?
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: I don't even think we slept. I think we were
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: up all night. I was trying to wonder in my head, like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: what is going to happen next? What is going to
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: happen next? What is going to happen next? Are they
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: going to try to kill me?
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: The police eventually catch everybody. You're not initially part of
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: the investigation. They don't think you're involved. but you get interviewed,
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: and in the process of.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: The interview, you.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Became involved.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Right. Why did you offer information in that moment?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Believe it or not, when everything was all said and
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: done and we were sitting in the house, LaRon was like, Jennifer,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: you need to tell them you knew about everything because
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: you're the youngest, you know, you're already famous, you won't
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: get in trouble, so to speak. And I did just that,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: and here I am now, six.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Years later, They thought you'd get off because you were
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the Hiccup Girl.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought my 15 minutes of fame would help
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: me in a situation, but it didn't.
• 27:07
  Speaker 17: Ms.
• 27:20
  Speaker 21: Mi's admissions to Detective Warinski evidencing her willingness to engage
• 27:25
  Speaker 21: in this violent conduct in this case and her lack
• 27:27
  Speaker 21: of appreciation for the consequences of such conduct speak for themselves.
• 27:33
  Speaker 21: The only two possible sentences if she were to be
• 27:35
  Speaker 21: convicted are the death penalty or life imprisonment.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: The severity of the punishment Jennifer faced if found guilty
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: stunned many Americans. What is going on in the world?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: She's on trial for murder. Hiccup girl on trial for murder.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Take a look at this.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: And no one is claiming that she pulled the trigger,
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: but still facing murder charges.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: That's right, felony murder. So if she had the intent
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: to commit the robbery and someone dies, she's on trial
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: now for felony murder. That's all they have to prove
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: in the context of this case is that she had
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: the intent to commit that robbery.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You offered to do her case pro bono, so you
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: wouldn't take a fee for that. Why was that?
• 28:35
  Speaker 18: Uh, it was a very high-profile case. Uh, she seemed like, uh...
• 28:42
  Speaker 18: kind of a cliche, but she seemed like a really
• 28:44
  Speaker 18: nice girl.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: When you realize what the police had in this case, particularly...
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Statements from all of the people concerned, all identifying Jennifer
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: for her role in luring Shannon to what turned out
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to be his death. Her on tape with her mother saying,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I set it up, and so on. From a legal perspective,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: did that scream guilt to you as the statute of
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the law applies in Florida?
• 29:15
  Speaker 18: My concern was, is her involvement was as nearly minimal
• 29:19
  Speaker 18: as you could possibly have to make the threshold for
• 29:23
  Speaker 18: a felony murder type case. And what it really came
• 29:27
  Speaker 18: down to was, did the jury believe that she knew
• 29:30
  Speaker 18: in advance that there was going to be a robbery
• 29:33
  Speaker 18: that was taking place? She didn't have to know there
• 29:34
  Speaker 18: was a homicide that was going to occur. But did
• 29:37
  Speaker 18: she know that there was going to be a robbery?
• 29:42
  Speaker 12: We're here today and this week because Jennifer Mee set
• 29:46
  Speaker 12: everything up. More correctly, she set up Shanon Griffin.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: For a robbery.
• 29:53
  Speaker 12: I really have to look no further than her jail
• 29:55
  Speaker 12: phone call. and I relied on it during the prosecution,
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: that she set the whole thing up. Really, without her,
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: this does not happen.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Why are you in jail?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: For murder in the first degree.
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: Who'd you kill?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I ain't killed nobody.
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: Well, then how are they charging you with murder?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Because I set everything up.
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: I'm sure for a jury, hearing her own words to
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: her own family that I set this up, that it
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: was a robbery, I'm sure that was incredibly compelling for them.
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: It's not a detective. It's not the police saying she
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: said this. It's her telling her mom.
• 30:39
  Speaker 17: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶.
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: Thank you. Okay, would the defendant please rise? Madam Clerk,
• 31:10
  Speaker 14: you may publish the verdict.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: We, the jury, find as follows the defendant in this case.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: The defendant is guilty of murder in the first degree
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: as charged.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: So say we all.
• 31:23
  Speaker 14: Um, the jury having found you guilty of murder in
• 31:26
  Speaker 14: the first degree, Miss Mee, I will adjudicate you guilty
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: and sentence you to life in prison without parole.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: When she read that, I just.
• 31:48
  Speaker 16: The only thing I remember is turning around and looking
• 31:51
  Speaker 16: at my mom. I knew right then and there my.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Life was over.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And for me, that's one of the most troubling aspects
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: about this case. Jennifer will likely never be released from prison,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: even though she didn't pull the trigger, she wasn't there
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: when it happened, and she didn't know that Shannon would
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: be killed.
• 32:29
  Speaker 17: MUSIC PLAYS.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, short of hearing your daughter is dead herself,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to hear that she has gone to prison in her
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: early 20s for the rest of her natural life with
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: no possibility of ever having any chance of getting out,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: it's like losing your child, isn't it, in a way?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course you can talk to her.
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: I've said that multiple times. It's like I lost a child.
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: I died inside.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: It was pretty rough. There was a lot of crying.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Did you assume, were you led to believe by the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: lawyers that she was going to get off?
• 33:12
  Speaker 15: I believe that even her lawyer thought, you know, that
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: she would get some kind of lighter sentence than what
• 33:19
  Speaker 15: she did. I never once entertained that she would get
• 33:23
  Speaker 15: life without the possibility of parole. Never once I allowed
• 33:25
  Speaker 15: it to cross my mind. I thought 10 years at
• 33:28
  Speaker 15: the very most good time out in seven And, you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: she'd be done with that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: John, I practice down here in South Florida. I've handled
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: cases like this. I'm still troubled by the plea bargains.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: I'm bothered that she got a life sentence for this
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: the same way as if she had pulled the trigger.
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: And while legally that's the case, in terms of sentencing,
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: I think it's too harsh. So let's go back to
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: the plea. You offered 15. They said no. What about
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: 18 or 20, just to avoid a life sentence?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: One of the big unanswered questions here is why there
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: was no plea bargain deal. to stop what has been
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: for her Armageddon of life without any possibility of parole.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Why was there no plea deal?
• 34:17
  Speaker 18: There were many attempts to try to facilitate one, but
• 34:21
  Speaker 18: in the end, the state took a position, don't even
• 34:24
  Speaker 18: come to us with anything less than starting at 25 years.
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: You're a very experienced lawyer. You can see the way
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: the prosecution are taking this. They're playing hardball. If she's
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: convicted under.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the pretext that they're charging her with, she's never coming
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: out of prison. Is it not then your duty to
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: say to her, this is likely to happen, you need
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: to take this deal, even if it's 25 years, even
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: if it's 30 years?
• 34:54
  Speaker 18: I don't think it's our obligation to say, you need
• 34:57
  Speaker 18: to take this deal. I think what we need and
• 34:59
  Speaker 18: what we did do is say, this is what the
• 35:01
  Speaker 18: evidence is against you. This is what they're going to argue.
• 35:05
  Speaker 18: there is a substantial possibility of a conviction in this case,
• 35:09
  Speaker 18: which means you'll get life. It just simply, that didn't
• 35:12
  Speaker 18: come up in that fashion. She was adamant she wanted
• 35:15
  Speaker 18: to move forward. She was willing to run the risk.
• 35:17
  Speaker 18: It wasn't just myself. All the attorneys involved in this
• 35:21
  Speaker 18: talk with her about that, even during the course of
• 35:23
  Speaker 18: the trial.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: There's a theory by those who want to criticize you that,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you know, you're a kind of celebrity case ambulance chaser
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that grabbed a hot case.
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: And then took a big punt on your gut feeling
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that a jury would buy into poor hiccup girl inadvertently
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: caught up in murder and would fine for her, which
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: is why you didn't push harder for a deal. That's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: what people who don't like you say.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 35:53
  Speaker 18: And I've heard them say that. And that's fine, but
• 35:57
  Speaker 18: that's not what happened in this case. What happened in
• 35:59
  Speaker 18: this case is She understood, Jennifer clearly understood that there
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: were options.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: If she hadn't been the hiccup girl, she'd just been
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: any other girl who got caught up in this exact murder.
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: Let's play hypotheticals here.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: What do you think the state may have done in
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: terms of a deal on the years she would serve
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: in prison?
• 36:27
  Speaker 18: I would say I would have gotten her 10 years
• 36:30
  Speaker 18: or less.
• 36:32
  Speaker 19: Wow.
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: Shanon Griffin, he's doing exactly what every 20, 21, 22-year-old.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Male's supposed to do.
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: Work, go meet girls. And he wound up dead.
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: Sharon Fermi's fame as the hiccup girl affected the public
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: perception and the fact that people were just more shocked
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: that she could be involved in a crime like this,
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: where someone ultimately dies.
• 37:26
  Speaker 19: I personally think some people probably deserve the death penalty.
• 37:30
  Speaker 19: In this case, they don't. They need to live that
• 37:33
  Speaker 19: life out and think about what they've done every day.
• 37:35
  Speaker 19: And to me, that's more of a punishment, if they
• 37:39
  Speaker 19: have a conscience.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: You've never been here before, have you?
• 37:48
  Speaker 15: I have never been.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: How do you feel being at the crime scene?
• 37:56
  Speaker 15: Very nervous inside, knowing that this is where everything happened.
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: Sad.
• 38:02
  Speaker 15: Knowing that somebody's life was taken, so many lives were changed.
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: Kind of makes it seem like it's just happened coming
• 38:09
  Speaker 15: back here.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Why do you want to see this?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: I just felt compelled to come.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Back this way.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: This is where Jennifer led Shannon. into this corner. This
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: is where the other two men were waiting. This is
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: where Jennifer then walked away.
• 38:40
  Speaker 15: I do remember this in the crime scene, so he
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: must have been found, right?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jennifer left. She walked off down there and left.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And this is where Shannon was shot dead and where
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: his body was later found.
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: I don't understand why.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: How do you feel standing here? Very sad.
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: Shanan shouldn't have died. Those things should never have happened.
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: Young man, 22 years old, never got to enjoy life.
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: I wish I could do something to change everything that night.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: And I know I can't.
• 39:25
  Speaker 17: I'm sorry for you. you.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: At first, I was, you know, I was like, well,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that was just a fire. They deserved what they got.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But then as the years passed, I think, like Coach.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Leggett, that's four kids.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: That's just life. It's just gone. I mean, you got
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to have some kind of compassion for them just as
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: well as Shanon. Not only did they take Shanon's life,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: they also took theirs, too.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Do you feel you deserve to be called a murderer?
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: I know you've been found guilty of first-degree murder, but
• 40:28
  Speaker 10: there will be people watching who, even though they hate
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: what you did, they will think, well, you weren't there.
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: You didn't know he was going to be shot dead.
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: You weren't directly involved in this murder. Why are you
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: here for the rest of your life for murder? Do
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: you feel that a bit?
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like I should be called a murderer, no. Now,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: do I feel like I should have gotten time in prison?
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: The amount of time?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: But then when you actually sit and let it wander
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: through your mind, sometimes I do because he's never going
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: to be able to see his life. So without him
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: seeing his life, how I feel, even though I wasn't
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: the one who actually pulled the trigger, but because of
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: my co-defendants, I'm just.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: As guilty as they are.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: So you've come to terms with that?
• 41:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: But then also in my mind, you know, there are
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: people that have hearts.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: There are people that will see. Give her a second chance.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Let her be able to, you know, show the world
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: she's not this cold-hearted killer, murderer, whatever people make me
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: out to be.
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: What are the things that you're saddest about being in
• 41:49
  Speaker 10: here for the rest of your life in terms of
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: what you will now not be.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Able to enjoy?
• 41:53
  Speaker 16: The saddest thing as of now is, like, I just.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I just found out that, um, my sister.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Well, my sister just had a baby and I'll never
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: see her to grow up.
• 42:15
  Speaker 14: For.
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: a robbery of $ 60.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: When you finally met Shannon for the first time that night,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: because you'd never seen him before, what was your impression
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: of him?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: He was very handsome.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: I don't really remember what he was wearing or nothing
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: like that, but I do remember he was a strong,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: built man.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: That's all I remember. And I remember he had such
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: flawless features.
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: Did any part of you in that moment when you
• 42:55
  Speaker 10: physically saw him have any doubt or regret about what
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: was about to happen to him?
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah. When I knew I was turning away, that's when
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: it really dropped in because I was just like, what
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: did I.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Just leave him to? Did I leave him to, to, um,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: What's a good word to use? To the wolves, basically.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Could I have told him, no, don't go back there,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: and allowed him to get back on his motorcycle to leave?
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: I wish that I could have just stopped it right
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: then and there.