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Barbara Bam Bam Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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Podcast. Woo woo.
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You don't say his name. Shall not be named, because if
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you want to see me for the rest of the episode, you tell Jacob
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to not speak about what he's gonna speak about right now.
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Let's just say there's a certain player that every time he's
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mentioned on the pod, Kevin's camera breaks.
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It's literally part of my control.
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I think there's a curse. So what happens is, is that I
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talk about him because he's so great and I give off good vibes,
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and then Kevin's like, Nah, man, he sucks.
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And then his camera just goes away.
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I think there's like something embedded in the coding of the
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software. We used to record that every
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time you start trashing on them it just goes blank.
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Is. The only possible explanation.
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Listen, the only way that we could solve this is that I have
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to stop trash talking him. And maybe if he got one power
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play point I'd be able to not trash talker.
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So you're talking about Alexi protest?
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Right. Yeah, you just ruined
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everything. I can't believe you just said
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his name. But if it actually if his video
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screws up again, then then there's no other explanation.
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I fixed my issue, it was good for multiple weeks, I think most
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like a month and a half since I resolved the issue and then
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suddenly the one time we talk about produce again this
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happens. It cannot be a coincidence.
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Let's see what happens. Let's see.
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Anyway, welcome in one and all the Banker Management, the
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Fantasy Hockey podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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Kevin, who has a face, We see who he's not here.
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He's there alright. It's anyway you just can't trash
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talking. You gotta you gotta hop on the
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Alexa train. It is what it is.
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Choo Choo. Today, our week 17 hot topics
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before we get into the meeting potatoes, I've had a lot of
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people actually like, you know, I'm talking to you guys on the
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Instagram DMS and the Twitter DMS and there's a lot of people
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like we're in week 17 and they've been listening to us
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since the beginning of the year and they're still not in the
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Discord. And they're like, you know what,
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I'm actually going to join the Discord.
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Like finally, you know, I'm coming around to it.
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I know you guys keep mentioning it and then they joined and
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they're super happy and they're like, I regret not being in here
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earlier. So I'm just putting it out there
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that if you're one of those people that, you know, you've
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been listening for a while, you love being in the community,
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you're laughing at the jokes and all that and you enjoy some of
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our takes. The Discord is the place to be I
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think because if. You want some of our takes, you
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know, get in the discord you. And yes, I'm happy to see you
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guys roast to Jake and Kevin's takes.
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I can't take it. I'm very sensitive, so don't
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tell me if I ever say anything you disagree with it, but I
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would love to get on board with the rest of the other two.
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I could handle it. Alright, should we get into some
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hot topics? That's do it.
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Alright, this first hot topic. We briefly mentioned it but I
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personally didn't go into too much detail in the news episode.
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This is something I really wanted to be talking about.
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Dougie Hamilton of the New Jersey Devils, eight straight
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games with a point. New Jersey is winning games.
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Is he still getting traded with the Luke Hughes injury?
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Is he a sell high in fantasy? What is going on?
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Is this what us Dougie holders have been waiting for for all
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season? What do you guys think?
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What's the what's the deal here? So I don't think he's gonna get
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traded anymore because the reason, you know, that he was
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going to is because he wasn't doing anything.
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But they also didn't give him the opportunity to.
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And now he has the opportunity to run with for the foreseeable
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future. I feel like he's cemented
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himself on power play one rest of season.
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Even if Luke comes back, they're going to be fighting for a
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playoff spot. New Jersey is not an absolute
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wagon this year. The Metropolitan is pretty
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competitive. So I think that the way that
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it's going to play out that you'll get old school doggy back
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and they're I think you're going to make the playoffs, but
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they're going to squeak by. So you want guys on teams that
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are trying to the end and I think they're gonna give them
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good deployment. I mean, I'm I'm also on the
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doggie train right now. Like there I only drafted Dougie
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actually dressed dog in a lot of leagues this year.
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Not our league of record, thank God, because that would have
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been in pain holding him for that long.
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But who's? Laughing now.
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I still think back to when you offer me doggy from my Ben
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Sherod and I said no so. I already I offered Kevin
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Matthews and Dougie for ketchup and Sharat and he.
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Rejected. I'd still rather have ketchup
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over Matthews though, so that's not.
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What, you rather have Chuck over Matthews and Dougie?
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Maybe not. So that's, that's yeah, you,
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there's a lot of risk associated with the situation, obviously,
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maybe if Lucas doesn't get hurt, we're not talking about this
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right now, but. I'm saying is trading with me is
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always the right move. The honestly, maybe except for
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Jake, not Jake greatly news Who? Scored more goals since we made
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a trade. Zetterlund or Holloway?
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That's a tough question. You have more power play points
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than protists. I feel so bad for your video
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right now. It's just you're gonna go.
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Just gonna ruin the. Quality the YouTube video
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because you wanna defend, protest and.
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What? I will go like I'm telling you.
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What I was saying about Dougie was I only have him in one
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league that I really care about and I held him through
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everything and now I'm reaping the rewards.
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Obviously he's bounced back and I really do think that his value
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rest of season will be good. I think it'll be close to what
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we expected going into this season minus Luke.
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This is just honestly huge because not only does he have
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the power by to himself, but he's the main guy in terms of
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like offensive production from the defenseman position on this
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team. I don't have any other guys that
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can contribute in that way. Like Nemish maybe could be that
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guy one day. He's not that guy this year.
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So I think a lot is going to be on Doug's shoulders.
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And listen, they wanted to trade him.
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So he knows that like he's playing for, you know, his
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future destination as well because next season he's
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probably not going to be on this New Jersey Devils team.
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Like in the offseason he either gets moved.
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That's kind of what I think, but I'd be really happy.
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I don't think New Jersey is making the playoffs that I'll
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take. I think they fell too far behind
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in the East to be seriously in the running.
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They'd have to like go on a serious win streak.
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I think it's a little bit too out of reach, but I still think
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there gonna be close enough. They're gonna be trying to, and
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that's a great time to have Dougie.
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So are you guys trying to sell high or you think that he's just
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going to be solid rest of season or both?
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I'm happy holding, but if you can sell on like, you know, the
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point per game pays over the last few weeks and get like a
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guy that I'm more confident than his access long term like we
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just talked about in the previous episode, Chick winner
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Dougie. I think that could be a good
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move because I think chicken are getting more shots, more blocks.
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The power play is going to be close and the points will
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probably be close as well. But I think it's a safer
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situation. Like Dougie or Yoshi, you know,
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Yoshi's got the bad playoff schedule, but he's also pretty
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sick right now too. And Nashville is a playoff team
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as we speak, so I think those are the names that you could
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maybe get and feel confident in like the rest of season
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production. What do you guys think?
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I don't think it's crazy to if you offer Dougie for like a
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slider Cider has been bad. Not like like really not great
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at all. I mean, or I don't know how you
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feel about this. Well, Haskins kind of turned it
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up recently, but. Yeah.
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Yeah, I think I'd rather Haskin in as well.
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So. So it depends where you could
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sell them for, right? But I do like the idea of
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selling them. I don't hate it at all.
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But yeah, I mean, I'm I trying to sell.
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It's tough. You've you've held them for so
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long and it's like I get, I get like the emotional inability to
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just be like, alright, bye. But it could be the right thing
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to do. I do think they will make the
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playoffs though, I will say. I think they're going to be a
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bubble team like they're you know it's gonna be close they're
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not gonna be super far out of it and they're not going to be
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super far in it. If they make it it'll be as
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probably the second wild card, but it's going to be close.
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I think they've been playing pretty solid lately ever since
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doggies turned it on markstrom's been good.
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So I mean that's kind of the big and their two biggest issues
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this year right is is the players I mean yeah, but Brad
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has not figured it out. But spoilers for I mean let's
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just get into it. Our next hot topic yes for
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Brett. At what point is he no longer a
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bi lo and just sucks because I feel like we're getting daily
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like messages just nonstop. I have brat do I drop him?
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Brad got dropped in my league. Who do I drop for him?
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Like you should be trading for him, should be trading him away.
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Like he's been a name that's been floating around and our
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stance has been non-stop. He's a bylo, he's a bylo, he's a
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Bylo. But like at a certain point it's
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like, are we, are we wrong? Is he not a violo?
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Is he just not going to be as good as we expect?
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Like what do you guys think? I'll let you go first.
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I'm the I'm the brat owner in our league of records.
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So. Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, like I,
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I'm getting definitely worried and I, I forgot about the exact
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specifics because Kevin and I were kind of doing some trade
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talking over the past over the past week.
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No way. Yeah.
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Now that we didn't get close, don't worry.
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No, they didn't hear even a sniff of this in the in the
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group chat. Oh my God, this.
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Never really from the group chat for a while, don't forget.
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That's fair. I've been.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely way lower on him than than I was
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coming into the season insofar as like the actual turnaround.
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I think you're really lucky if he if he gets to a point per
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game rest of season not finishes at I think that's ship has
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sailed. But I just mean here like
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henceforth there's a lot of guys honestly that I I'd rather have
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over him at this point that I wouldn't have suspected coming
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into the season. Like, can I say definitively
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that I'd rather brought over Slave Kowski?
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I don't know. I mean, to me, I'd rather Brett,
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but. I hear.
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What do you think, Josh? I think it's tough.
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I mean, like, I haven't been looking at his game log every
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game, you know, I know that like it's zeros after zeros.
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And like has he been doing any has been shooting at all he's
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been doing anything or is it just pretty much straight zeros?
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Because I haven't been. Shooting his usual like. 22
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shots, OK shots. But over the last month, is that
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.5 points per game? OK.
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Yeah. So like. .7 on the season.
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Yeah, so I I knew the points have been grim and I know that
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just that's kind of like his biggest asset as a player
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usually is not like a big back cats guy, although he was
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hitting like a bit last year. I don't know if he's if he's
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hitting at all anymore. But the .9.
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OK, yeah, like close to one hit a game.
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It's not nothing. Look, I still believe in the
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bounce back. I just it just doesn't make
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sense to me. He hasn't his deployment hasn't
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changed his like the team was bad, but now the team starting
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to pick it up. So I mean, Jack Hughes has been
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bad since coming back from injury.
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Like, I not in any doubt that he's going to turn it around
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because for him, I'm attributing it to the fact that I think he's
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still injured. So when Hughes gets healthy and
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starts playing better, I expect Brat to benefit from that as
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well. I don't know.
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I don't think he's gonna be he's definitely not gonna be his
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ceiling of last year. I think that's that's easy to
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say, but I don't see why he shouldn't be a point per game,
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point per game .25 power play points, like even point 9.25,
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like if you're being like really like like hedging it.
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But yeah, it just doesn't logically make sense to me why
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he would be so bad. And when that happens, like it,
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I'm still inclined to believe he's a below.
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There are certain types of players that, you know, when
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they're really going through it, you get worried and you start
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asking a lot of questions. And there's certain types of
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players that when they go through it, it doesn't make any
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sense. Like, you know, the underlying
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metrics are still there, the deployment is still there, the
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situation is still there, and yet they just don't produce.
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We saw this earlier this year with, first of all, Panera and
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to start the season, God awful, the Rangers that couldn't buy a
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goal at home, We thought they were never gonna score a goal at
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home for like, ever. Yeah.
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And then little behold, like when you bought little people
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were training like Pavel Durov have one for one for Panera, and
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like in week two of the fantasy season.
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Yeah, that's crazy. You made that like you're you're
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laughing right now with how good Panera has been for the rest of
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the year, right? Does like we saw with Brayden
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Point as well, same thing. He was one of the worst players
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to, you know, he's battled injury throughout the year, but
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when he's healthy after that really low period of like 2
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months, you had a great Brayden Point.
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I put Brad in the same conversation.
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I feel like you know the surrounding metrics are all
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still there. I don't know why the points are
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not adding up. I think, you know, the huge
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injury plays a big factor there where he had a lot more on his
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shoulders, couldn't deliver, but he was as healthy.
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Now he still playing with Hughes know New Jersey is a talented
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team. They're going to be pushing for
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the playoffs. They have a lot going for them
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in terms of like, you know, scoring goals and putting points
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on the board. I think it's just a matter of
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time, honestly. And I think he's so dirt cheap.
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Some people are cutting him like and completely understand the
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production is really bad. I would not call him to pick up
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like a Mason Marchman or something.
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You know what I mean? Like, I just think he's too
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valuable. And I'm not trading him away
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either. If I'm holding him, I guess it
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really depends on what value you're able to get in return.
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But if I'm holding this long, I feel you're selling for pennies
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on the dollar, and rightfully so.
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Like, I can't, I can't ask for somebody to pay full price for
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Brad right now, right? So I'd never like selling a guy
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on low unless I'm really desperate.
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I'm not gonna make the playoffs. I'm holding room buying and
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that's going to be my position until the end of the season.
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And then if that ends up being bad advice, then I'll take it on
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the chin, to be honest. But for now, I still think the
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process is telling me I want to acquire this player and I still
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can acquire them for cheap. I'll pay that cheap price and
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I'll live with it after. I fully agree.
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I mean it's like you don't want to pay the price, you know you
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don't pay the full price on a buy low, but for the price you
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can get him you shouldn't have to.
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And for the for the price you can get him right now, to me
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it's a no brainer. Like literally he was on any
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other team than Kevins. I think I'd be sending daily
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offers like. Team and tip it plus 100%. 100%
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like that's what he would be on my team by now.
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Would you rather him or splash and call rest of season?
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That's a good one. That is a good one.
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I think I'm going to sketch and I I do believe in in brat, but
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sketch has just been unreal. And I think I wouldn't be
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surprised if Brett is more points for us this season.
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But what's fetch brings to the table is more than points, so
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I'd go with him. And the safeties of not being
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dog water right now. So dog off exactly.
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You asked me the question like 2 weeks when Brad had like average
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point per game since and whatever you know to take will
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change. But right now, if you make me
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choose in this moment, I probably go switch.
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But I think also like one of the reasons I'm more comfortable
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going Sketch there is because I think even if Brad's point per
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game, two shots, .9 heads or whatever, like Sketch has been
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so sick and he does like hell, even if he has, he's at .8
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points per game, but he's also getting like the shots hits like
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him as whatever like that he's been doing.
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Then that's why I'm still happy with.
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Him. I do think Caroline as a whole
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is due for like slight regression just because like,
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Aho has been so good, especially been so good.
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You know, the Bush's been so good.
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Brandon Bussey of the Carolina Hurricanes.
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So I do think they're due for some slight regression.
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Like we saw them be really bad. We saw them be really good.
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Like they're a little bit less good than what they are now.
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But yeah, I agree. Yeah, OK, let's go to the next
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one. Nazim Kadri.
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He's actually been a hot topic, like I think a month and a half
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ago, something like that before, kind of the same vibe.
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Is he a drop? Do we hold and hope for a trade?
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Is a trade even gonna make him better?
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Last time he was a hot topic, I think it was the same kind of
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vibe. Then he went on a super hot
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streak, made it onto our cell heist list, and then he's
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dropped off the face of the earth.
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So firstly, we think he's getting traded.
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Everything I'm seeing right now is that Calgary is kind of like
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not been talking trades. Like I think they're kind of
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like closed off right now. But I think a lot can change
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between now and the trade deadline.
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I think you should get traded. There's no doubt in my mind.
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I think God is, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't make sense for
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him to hold him. Talk about dog awful.
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I mean, this is just ridiculous. Yeah, he's been so bad as of
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late. He's his shots are normally way
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better than they have been. Also over like again, December,
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they were way better than they have been in January.
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So to me, like, I think this is hugely discouraging if you're a
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cadre owner. I'm way more worried about Kadri
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than I am about Brad, who think I'm the lowest on brat here.
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And I'm still like, OK, you know, like I get it.
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He's got the elite pedigree. Calgary sucks though, and Kadri
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has to get moved. If he gets moved, I don't
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necessarily think he's gonna be a lock for a power play one on a
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team he gets moved to. So I really just don't like his
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outlook rest this season at all. Like I wouldn't cut him if I'm
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in a deep enough league, if I'm in a 12 team league, maybe if
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I'm in A10 team league. I don't even think he's all
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terrible. Like you brought up Marshman
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versus Brad, Kevin. I think I'm probably just gonna
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take Marshman, the chance of Marshman over other season.
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Answer I don't hate that I think the last time card was doing
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this bad Josh had to trade him and then he popped off so Josh
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I'm not doing this again send an offer and hopefully a lot of the
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diamond holders in our you know I.
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Don't have to play the guy again.
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I'll send an offer and make country good for him.
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He's he's bought into the league.
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Like if if he can go and tear it up against other teams, it'll
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help me out in the long run. But now last time it was crazy.
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I messaged Kevin and I was like, hey, like, I'm thinking I'm
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sending this all for free country like do you think he has
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any like, you know, gas in the tank, whatever Kevin like now
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he's cooked and I'm like, I don't know, I feel like I feel
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like there's something here. I send the offer.
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I discuss with the guy for like a week and he's like, Nah, I'm
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not going to do it, you know, And then like a day later
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country unlike an insane like 15 points and like like 10 games
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like run and I'm just like, alright, well, this is another
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situation where I look terrible, you know, but I'm like, no, I
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just I was willing to take the chance on your guy who's been
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horrible and it would have worked out.
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But anyways, yeah, no, I agree. He's definitely getting traded.
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I think the trade is most likely worse for him, although it's
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hard to see him getting any worse than he is now.
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And, and yeah, he's definitely dropping a lot of leagues and I
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don't think I'm buying low on him, even if it's pretty cheap.
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I don't know actually if it's cheap enough I would buy low,
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but it would have to be pretty damn cheap.
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Thing for you it makes sense because you're very like rags to
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riches type of team, but for more you know where the wealth
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has spread out. It's harder to take A chance on
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a guy like you when you're giving up like actual serious
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value. Yeah, but I I think first of
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all, Calgary said there I don't they're making any moves until
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after the Olympics. Yeah.
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They made their Anderson movement that was like the big
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boy that they wanted to get off the table and Kadri's term.
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So you gotta find a team that's willing to take a take on that
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term and at that price. So I, I think it's gonna be
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difficult to find a partner, but they will inevitably find a
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partner. I remember hearing Elliot
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Friedman say that Calgary only has the slot to retain one more
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contract. So whether they're trading Blake
19:38
Coleman, Kanji or whoever else, they can only retain one more
19:41
contract. So I think that's going to be a
19:42
big deal and why they're like going to check out all the
19:45
options before they make any move because that retains slot
19:47
is going to be a big deal for them.
19:49
In terms of fantasy, I think code is a drop in almost every,
19:51
every, every league. Like in our league of record,
19:55
Kaji won't get dropped, right, because waivers are so scarce
19:57
and we played a very deep league.
19:59
But if you're in a 12 team league, like you can most likely
20:02
pick up a guy that's like 45% on and have better production,
20:05
right? So that's probably what I'm
20:07
doing. Yeah.
20:08
All right. Next.
20:10
Jesper Walstead used to be on Jake's team, but he got dropped.
20:14
I'm seeing a lot of trade rumors about him.
20:16
I don't know if you guys have seen this, but it seems like, I
20:20
mean, yeah, but it was from Elliott Friedman, who who's
20:22
pretty, pretty credible source. And then I've been seeing some
20:25
other kind of like reposts of that and then discussion and
20:27
just a lot of kind of like smoke about it, you know, blowing
20:31
smoke. But look at the bathroom.
20:36
Yeah, anyways, this is my friend Smoke.
20:38
Yeah, the 4th call was the AI guy that nobody ever knows.
20:44
Yeah, no, I'm seeing a lot of trade rumors about him.
20:46
It seems like Minnesota is trying to shoot for A1C and and
20:51
they're willing to give up Walstead as part of a deal and I
20:56
think there's a solid chance that something happens.
20:59
But I mean, who would even who would fit that bill?
21:02
Who needs goaltending and has A1 seat to spare?
21:04
That's. The thing?
21:07
I mean trocheck. I mean, that could be
21:11
interesting for. Sure not gonna change the 10.
21:14
Ohm, you're right, just jerkin yeah, that that's that's a tough
21:16
yeah, there's teams that have a one seed that that could trade
21:19
and there's teams that need goaltending, but it's hard to
21:22
find both right, like Saint Louis, right, they have Robert
21:27
Thomas is on the chopping block for sure.
21:28
Like that's you know, but like that could that's the most
21:31
likely one, I think. But also like they'd have to be
21:34
willing to take Binnington back as well because they're not
21:37
going to trade for Walstead. They have still have Bennington
21:39
on the books, I feel like. So I don't know.
21:41
I mean, that's probably the most likely one, right?
21:43
Is is Thomas on Saint Louis? Nudes for wall stud.
21:48
Nude is not getting treated. That guy was too loyal to
21:51
Edmonton during all the ups and down to just be a piece in a
21:54
goalie like that, I think. If.
21:57
I would do that if I was Edmonton for sure.
21:59
Walls that could be one of the best goalies in the league in
22:01
two years. Yeah, they just traded for Jerry
22:03
though. They that's their guy.
22:07
Kevin's in the TikTok comments. He's like.
22:10
I'm still. There baby I I actually looked
22:14
my take on this. I don't think he's gonna get
22:16
traded. I think it's a perfect situation
22:18
of this year, but they. Had was gonna trade for him.
22:24
Vegas. It's always.
22:27
It's always. Bigger.
22:29
It's not crazy. It's.
22:31
Not Thomas Hurdle. Hurdle for for Walstead.
22:35
I don't need to do that. Either team wants to do that,
22:38
but I like. I think that would be fun.
22:40
I think that'd be sick for Minnesota for sure, because
22:43
that's like I think they don't want most.
22:45
I mean something don't want walls.
22:46
They don't need them. They signed Gus to like a long
22:48
term deal. Gus is still young.
22:50
He's like 27. Like there's there's no reason
22:53
for them to have wall said if they can turn Walstead into
22:55
their biggest need, which is a #1 slash top six centre, like
22:59
they would be crazy not to do it.
23:00
Especially they're so in win now mode with the Queen Hughes trade
23:02
and all that. So on Minnesota and that would
23:04
be sick. Vegas, I don't know.
23:05
I think they'd rather just have Hill get around and they also
23:07
have harder hearts and all that. So yeah.
23:09
Hear me out doing filled the know 40 Esper Walstead sounds
23:13
everybody's problems. Do you actually think that
23:17
they'd wanna get rid of all set though?
23:18
Like I understand that there there may be trade rumors to me
23:21
I feel like. I feel like that's it.
23:24
I don't think they want to get rid of him.
23:26
I think he's their best trade piece and he doesn't fit what
23:29
they need for win now, so I think.
23:32
They're on top to they don't need it right now.
23:34
They already have Gus. Yeah, that's it exactly.
23:37
So it's like, I mean, it's it's like in fantasy, right?
23:40
You know, like let's say I have a team where I have like we have
23:42
4 defence slots and I5 elite defensemen and I'm missing a sea
23:45
or whatever. Like I'm gonna go out and shop
23:46
my, you know, defenseman, even if he's really good, I'm like,
23:49
yeah, I'll give up this really good defence and for a really
23:51
good cause, it just fits my team better.
23:53
So I don't think they're like they think poorly of walls that
23:56
or anything like that. I think it's just that it
23:58
doesn't fit their current current.
24:00
Wild Buffalo. So Josh Norris.
24:03
Now Buffalo. They're goaltending has been
24:05
insane. PPL for Walstead.
24:10
Kevin's like please someone take Josh Norris and make him
24:13
healthy. But either way, but first of
24:17
all, the people that are still holding walls dead, I've been
24:19
telling people they can drop them.
24:21
I think. Yeah, I think that there's in
24:23
most leagues, you know, there's a group power you can pick up.
24:25
There is Stuart Skinner you can pick up.
24:28
So I'd rather have those guys over Wall Street right now.
24:31
Does that mean that, you know, as we approach trade deadline
24:34
speculative out of Walstead in terms of like, maybe he gets
24:38
moved Because if he gets moved, I think he's gonna be the
24:40
starter on whatever team he gets moved to.
24:42
That just makes sense. Yeah.
24:44
So I maybe be into that. But right now, like this,
24:48
getting one game a week sometimes and it's not always
24:51
the best quality. So he's not really helping your
24:53
fantasy team. I know it's hard to drop given
24:55
what he did for you earlier this season, but at some point you
24:58
just gotta make moves that improve you.
24:59
Right now and with goalies, it's very volatile.
25:02
I think right now it's not a bad time to cut bait.
25:06
Yeah, I wouldn't pick him up in this instance.
25:08
I also look, I actually don't think he's gonna get traded.
25:11
I just feel like they spent so much draw draft capital on him.
25:16
The hurdle idea is fun. Like I kinda I do actually get
25:19
it, but I feel like it's just it wouldn't help Vegas enough for
25:22
them to actually want to get rid of them.
25:24
And I feel like, I don't know, I feel like.
25:26
They want to. Keep him, that'd be.
25:29
Fun. That would be fun.
25:31
They can send, yeah, they could send like Pinto for Pinto or.
25:35
Green your cousins Cousins almost go to Minnesota.
25:40
Last time around I think Ottawa could definitely make a lot of
25:43
sense. They've had like league worst
25:44
school attending. It's, I think there's a lot of,
25:49
like, it's gonna be like tough to make it work, but there's
25:52
some potential names out there and I think Garry's gonna try.
25:56
I'm gonna say I think Darren is like one of those guys that he,
25:59
if he had the chance to make a big swing to win now, he's gonna
26:02
do it. Like we've already seen it
26:03
happen. The Queens used Tray.
26:05
Like, you know, Boom was a guy they just drafted that was super
26:08
talented. He had no loyalty to just like
26:11
keep that guy, Quinn Hughes, a winning Stanley Cup this year.
26:13
You do that right, Wilson is not helping you with Stanley Cup
26:16
this year when you have Dustin. Yeah, if you can trade that guy
26:18
and get a full value and influx of talent to your top six, that
26:22
makes you an even stronger team for the Stanley Cup this year.
26:24
When your window is now think you do that.
26:26
It's no brainer if you're Bill Guerin, but.
26:27
Yeah. You have to find a trade partner
26:29
that's. The part that's the hard part,
26:31
yeah, especially because it's like double.
26:33
Like them winning also increases the chance of huge resigning,
26:36
right? So it's like they they gotta go
26:38
and go hard. So we'll see.
26:40
It'll be interesting for sure. When I saw the rumors, my first
26:43
instinct was like, maybe I should be grabbing him and just
26:45
holding. But it's also hard to hold like
26:47
essentially dead roster spot for like the trade deadline still
26:50
like over a month away, right? Obviously this mini trade
26:52
deadline of like the Olympics and all that, but like, that's a
26:55
long time to hold the dead roster spot.
26:57
Yeah, I'm not gonna beg him personally, but I you dropped me
27:01
like a Yeah, I like it. Like I need gold and I haven't
27:03
picked them up and I won't. Yeah, so.
27:05
Yeah, funny that we have two yesrs on the list.
27:08
Yeah, yeah, Alright, last one. Speaking of goalies, Aiden Hill,
27:14
does he suck or will he turn it around?
27:16
Because I think people were holding him for months and he
27:20
comes back and just is dog awful.
27:23
So what do you guys think? He's been back for four games,
27:27
has yet to post at 900 save percentage, has still won half
27:30
his game, so two out of four. It just goes to show that, you
27:33
know, this Vegas team is the real deal and they're just
27:36
missing a guy in Nets to, you know, hold down the Fort.
27:38
They. Showed us some before.
27:40
Yeah, it was Schmid, then it was Carter horror and I was 18 Hill.
27:43
I really think Eden Hill is the guy.
27:45
I think he was hurt for so long. He still getting in the groove
27:47
of things. It sucks because you know, after
27:50
this last game where he got he got mark trimmed and feeling
27:54
it's been happening here and there to so many goals across
27:57
the league. But people are asking can I drop
28:00
him? Like, you know, and he was on
28:02
waivers in a lot of these. I will say people have stashed,
28:04
but it hasn't felt like a grave situation.
28:06
Like I really need him to come back type of thing.
28:08
Like, you know, you pick up the backup and that's it.
28:10
I don't I'm not dropping it and help.
28:12
I have them. I still believe that this Vegas
28:15
team is the real deal. He's the main starter on this
28:17
team. Moving forward there will be
28:19
some growing pains, but ultimately I think you'll be
28:21
happy to have money. Roster I'll be trying to buy.
28:24
I have asked her of if I can flip ask Rob for Hill, I'd do
28:26
that. I don't think anyone's accepting
28:28
that I don't. Think so either, but I'd
28:30
probably have to add a plus on top, but I'd try.
28:34
He really doesn't have such great pedigree as a starting
28:38
goalie in the NHL. O the year that he won the
28:42
Stanley Cup, he he played 27 games in the regular season.
28:47
So I, I do believe that he's their best goalie.
28:51
I, I thought it was gonna be heart and I totally don't
28:54
believe that anymore. So I think that it heals the guy
28:57
that they're going to try to play most games rest of season,
29:00
but I'm not expecting good percentages or good goals
29:02
against average at all. I just do think he's going to
29:04
get saves and wins. So barring a trade for another
29:08
goalie, I'm happy to have him on my team.
29:11
I think it's going to get better than this, but it's going to be
29:13
like 890 to maybe like a 902. I'm not expecting much more than
29:19
that for the averages. And I'm not unhappy with that.
29:22
If he's getting the majority of his games or wins, he's getting
29:25
25 plus saves. Like it's cool, but I'm not.
29:28
I don't think he's sucks. I think it's going to get
29:30
better, but I'm not expecting like what you'd expect from a
29:35
goalie on a team that's gonna be winning so much.
29:37
It's not Vasilevsky, not Dallas without injury, you know, so.
29:41
Would you drop for Stewart Skinner?
29:44
What if I I think I'm? Just honestly, just on your
29:47
roster, you held them. He just came back.
29:50
He got shelled for seven goals. What are you doing?
29:52
No, Like where? On the previous episode, we were
29:55
discussing busy versus Kemper and that's kind of like elite
29:58
pedigree, a great goalie on a decent team.
30:01
This to me is not great goalie on a amazing team.
30:06
So I'm just gonna like and I chose I chose Bussy very
30:10
slightly like it was close, but like you guys went camper.
30:13
I get it. To me, I'm just taking Skinner
30:16
here. Simply Overhill, like his
30:18
percentages are going to be better.
30:20
It won't start as many games, but it'll get as many less less
30:24
wins, but the winning percentages will be similar.
30:27
I think that for me, if Skinner was starting more games, I would
30:31
take Skinner. I don't like the fact that he's
30:33
splitting 5050, even with how well he's been performing.
30:35
So if he starts like going like two of every three, I'm taking
30:38
Skinner. But until then, I'm going hell.
30:41
Yeah, I just, I don't love Hill. I don't like his outlook that
30:44
much. Rest this season.
30:45
I just like Vegas. Hmm, yes, absolutely.
30:49
Alright, should we get into the mailbag questions?
30:52
Alright, we don't have too many today so let's get into it.
30:55
Joshua Fearon on Discord asked how do you think the battle for
30:58
3rd place in the Pacific Division will play out?
31:01
Anaheim, San Jose, and LA are all tied in points percentage.
31:04
Seattle is 2 points behind. This is a super, super tight
31:08
race. What do you guys think?
31:09
Who do you think's taking that spot of 3rd in the in the
31:13
Pacific? I love this question.
31:16
I think it's gonna be LA. I think they're they're the most
31:21
veteran best team and like a lot of their not great performance
31:25
lately is is gonna be I mean, when Cozar is coming back,
31:29
things are just gonna get better before the team as a whole, not
31:32
necessarily fantasy wise, but I think the whole team is just
31:35
gonna get better. Kemper we we speak about like he
31:38
was my Bilo. You guys are also very high on
31:41
him. So I think that that's gonna
31:43
turn around quickly. And while I do think the ducks
31:47
and the sharks may make a serious push, I don't think the
31:51
crack and I think they're less good.
31:52
But that's just you guys can let me know what you think about
31:54
that after. I think that it's going to
31:56
basically be between the Ducks, the Sharks and the Mammoth for
32:01
the final spot in the playoffs right now there.
32:07
Would be the wild card. Yeah, because I think the, I
32:11
basically think that kings are a lock and then I think the top
32:14
three in the centrals absolutely set.
32:16
So that's six and then duck sharks, mammoth between those
32:21
two of those 3. I actually as even though I'm
32:26
the Kemper owner, I I'm not nearly as confident in LA as a
32:29
as you are. I would love to be.
32:30
I hope that they turned it around.
32:31
I think as long as they have Hiller as a coach, they could be
32:35
terrible for the rest of the season.
32:36
I'm really hoping he gets fired, in case you can't tell, but but
32:40
yeah. So I don't think that a lock.
32:42
I mean, I think my gut says Anaheim gets the spot.
32:45
My heart says San Jose because I'm a Macklin boy now.
32:49
So so yeah, that's that's kind of where I'm leaning.
32:52
I still think I can make the playoffs as a wild card, but in
32:54
terms like that Bird seed, I think it's going to be one of
32:56
those. Was gonna be one of those
32:58
California teams, but they're all California teams.
33:00
So that's my answer. A California team will be the
33:03
third spot, definitely. Not just curious I to me, I
33:09
think the team I like the least out of here long term is
33:11
Anaheim. I think I'm higher on LA and San
33:14
Jose in terms of like evaluating those three teams.
33:18
So I mean they're all super close together, right.
33:19
So I guess it's anybody's anybody, anybody shot.
33:22
But I would like to San Jose is doing, to be honest.
33:25
I think celebrity brings an element that the.
33:27
Other time, like God, is the curse of protest.
33:31
There's you, Slobber wagged. You like?
33:33
No. Stop now, I'm scared.
33:38
Oh boy, look, but the Valley X's?
33:40
Exactly. So you're saying that the San
33:44
Jose is? How you die.
33:45
But you know, I think San Jose, I think they're, I think I have
33:47
another big move in them, whether it's Panera, whether
33:50
it's something else to shake up the team.
33:53
But I like them finishing third and I think I'm more confident
33:57
Ellie makes the playoffs than Anaheim.
33:59
But I wouldn't be shocked if he misses the playoffs.
34:00
I'm not. I don't have as much conviction
34:01
as it as JK does. Like Jake is willing to bet his
34:04
life on it. I'm not so.
34:07
I did say that, yeah. I remember making a beer better
34:11
about it. Yeah, I don't subscribe to you
34:14
in your your Zillow oriented nonsense.
34:16
Yeah. But in my house, but in my life,
34:19
yeah. Great way to we all have a
34:20
different answer. So I got LA, let's say finishing
34:23
top, Kevin's got San Jose. Josh, you have like a like
34:27
Anaheim, you think? I I feel like.
34:32
We should make a three-way beer bed and whoever has the the
34:35
lowest of the three teams has a drink. 2 beers.
34:39
I like it. 2 beers. Well, one for each of the two.
34:42
Yeah, alright. Just because.
34:45
Because for the beer bed, I'll choose Anaheim, even though,
34:47
like my heart says, San Jose. But I'll be the third, the third
34:50
of the three. You always gotta go what you
34:52
got, Yeah, put your mind or whatever.
34:55
Whatever. Thank you.
34:57
Lock it in lock. It lock it in a beer bet.
34:59
I don't have to win, I just have to not be the worst of the
35:01
three. It's true, alright.
35:05
So whoever finishes highest, yeah.
35:07
OK, so no, whoever finishes lowest loses.
35:10
Village furniture. Lowe's in the standings.
35:12
Of the three, yeah alright, perfect.
35:15
Kit Kat Crew 3 on discord asked. I have gossiper and a points
35:20
league where I'm fighting for playoffs.
35:21
I need the production now and he's injured.
35:23
Who would be a good trade target?
35:26
First of all, I just want to say the last time we answered 1 of
35:29
KitKat cruise questions under Discord, he said he laughed at
35:33
how he pronounced his name. So now I'm thinking maybe it's
35:35
something that we're not expecting.
35:36
Maybe it's like a kid Katru or something, you know?
35:39
Anyway. Can't possibly think of another
35:43
way to pronounce this, but. If you're listening, KitKat
35:47
crew, we love you and we hope we're pronouncing your right.
35:49
If we're not telling you, tell us how.
35:53
But now to your question. Yeah, who's a good ghost target?
35:59
Hmm, is is it possible? Is chicken attainable or you
36:03
think he's too? I think it's attainable because
36:05
he's slowed down a little bit, but he's ramping up right now so
36:09
as every, every passing game feels harder and harder.
36:12
Yeah, but I would love that. Would you do this?
36:15
Might be. Crazy points league.
36:17
Would you do Dougie Hamilton? Yeah, I would take, I would do
36:20
the ghost for doggy swap. I think the.
36:23
Owner production. Yeah, I think the Dougie owner
36:27
would probably could probably do that.
36:30
Schaefer. I'll take Shafer.
36:32
Yeah, yeah, I think these are all solid, solid targets.
36:37
So that's that's three for you might well how would you rank
36:39
those 3 targets? I think I would go chicken for
36:44
Hamilton chicken something. That chicken and then honestly,
36:48
Michael Hamilton over Shafer. Just because the shots also,
36:50
right? Yeah, I could see that.
36:53
And honestly, I'm like when I'm just lasting on Hamilton,
36:56
because we talked about earlier, I'm willing to just throw out
37:00
the early season out the window and be like, it's a different
37:03
situation right now. So like I'm not using that data
37:05
to project forward. Like it was awful, awful, awful.
37:09
But if we keep reading into it, we're going to miss out on some
37:11
future gains, so. Yeah, I love to hear that.
37:13
If you want to talk trades, come on, you know you know, you know
37:16
where to find me. US.
37:20
All right, let's, uh, let's keep going.
37:23
Vancouver on Discord asked. What is your favorite fantasy
37:26
trade you made over the years? What is the worst fantasy trade
37:29
you've made over the years? The best fantasy trade I made
37:33
was I sent Celebriti and Holloway for Happier since it's
37:44
still working out, I swear. Yeah, OK.
37:48
I don't actually have. One time I know mine easily my
37:51
my best fantasy trade I've ever made and possibly will ever
37:54
actually know 100% is the best trade I've ever made and will
37:56
ever made make is I picked up Troy Terry a few years back.
38:01
He went on an insane tear and I managed to flip him for David
38:03
Pasternak around the Christmas break.
38:06
That like at the time, like you see, you hear that and it sounds
38:09
crazy and it was crazy, but it made sense.
38:12
Like Terry was killing it. He was like one point something
38:16
ridiculous points per game. And Pasternak was awful that
38:18
first half of the year, but then I traded and then immediately he
38:21
became Pasternak again after the break.
38:23
So that was my, my best trade ever.
38:24
And then my worst trade is probably with Kevin Last year.
38:27
I, I sent him a Tavarius for for Sketch and Ecklund.
38:31
I was hoping for the stretch that we've had lately, but he
38:33
immediately got injured and and missed the rest of the season.
38:36
So that was pretty rough. But was injury based?
38:40
That wasn't necessarily. Performance.
38:41
Yeah, just unfortunate. I think my worst trade ever was,
38:44
I remember trading. I figured who it was.
38:47
It was two years ago I remember buying, um, Nick Euler's and
38:52
before like we have a 2 day trade process on our in our
38:56
league, which is awful, but it's been in our league for so long
38:59
that it's hard to change and. Before that, change it this
39:02
year. Before the trade even process,
39:05
Nick Euler's got hurt and was like out for I think it was like
39:10
2 1/2 months. And it was just like basically
39:12
like traded a guy that was like fair value for dealers and then
39:15
just like lost that spot for like almost three months.
39:18
That's my worst trade, my best trade.
39:20
I don't know if it was, I think this year two really good trades
39:23
for my team even though 1 was acquiring Brat who has been less
39:27
than desirable. But I think I got Reinhart for
39:29
really cheap and Reinhardt like a top 15 player rest of season
39:32
in my eyes. So I traded.
39:36
It was a big boy It was I got for Reinhart, Reinhart brat.
39:40
Who else did I get? You got done and you got Larson
39:44
and yeah, you, you gave up Sanderson Cooley.
39:48
Logan Cooley, Lake Travis. Connect me.
39:50
Connect me and. Morgan, Morgan Riley, Yeah,
39:53
Yeah. So that was and then I think a
39:56
few weeks later, Logan Cooley. Days later Cooley was out for
39:59
like 2 months. Two week later.
40:02
But that was a pretty, that was a pretty good trade.
40:04
And I also traded, you know, Paul, Mary and Dunn for
40:07
Dorothea. Right after days later, Paul
40:09
Mary out for the season. Yeah, so.
40:11
Don't trade with Kevin. But to be fair it felt like Dora
40:15
Fair was out for the season 2 for like a month and 1/2.
40:17
That's fair. That's not what those points.
40:20
A lot of these bylaws are slow burns.
40:21
It takes a bit of time to kick in.
40:24
I can't remember the worst trade I've ever.
40:26
Made it was just so many of them you know.
40:30
That's who it was with. Watch, Joe's gonna blank out
40:33
again. Kevin's gonna go to the upside
40:37
Down. So I think I think it was my
40:42
first year and all I remember is that I traded for Tyler Johnson
40:46
because the year prior he got like top five points in the
40:49
league, which back in the day was 70 points, which remember
40:53
like that's what Jimmy Banner like, yeah, he wanted to.
40:57
So that was bad. But also, I, I don't know, I
41:03
mean, I don't think I have any glaringly horrible trades in the
41:06
past few years. I know those hates my really.
41:11
No, I don't know about Gary. Horrible.
41:13
Listen, I was like Jesus you and it comes to trade.
41:15
My best trade ever was not in this league, but I traded Jeff
41:20
Petry for our Tammy Panarin. What lead were you playing with?
41:26
Like your girlfriend? And you're like, yeah, this is
41:29
sick trade for you. You're really defensive.
41:31
Help. It happened.
41:32
It happened first of all, like the league kind of valued
41:38
defenseman and and Peter had a very hot start, I'm sure.
41:43
I think it was 2020-2021 or 1920.
41:49
No, it's probably. Long time ago. 21 Yeah, it was
41:52
like. 5 showing your age. What House remembers is that
41:57
Petrie was doing really, really well.
42:00
And Panera went back to Russia to, like, help his family
42:04
because they were, like, speaking.
42:06
He was speaking out against the government, and then, like, the
42:08
government got mad. So like, you have to like, go
42:10
there to protect his family. And whether or not he was going
42:13
to come back was ambiguous, so. We have for trade by low.
42:19
So we traded and turned. Off and then you text fire and
42:23
it was like let him go. Actually, walking works
42:33
perfectly. Thanks Vlad, I know I could
42:42
always count on you. Ohhhhh that's.
42:47
OK, let's let's move. On yeah that was that was a
42:50
pretty wild cherry for Pasternak is also insane in its own right.
42:54
But like this one, like Jeff Peachtree, but he was good.
42:58
Like Petra was a good defence from back in the day.
43:01
So yeah, but for Panera and it was quite.
43:02
Something I thought Josh was gonna mention his McDavid try
43:04
where he gave JT and Tage. That was good.
43:08
I mean JT have both been unreal though like lately.
43:11
I don't know if you've looked at.
43:12
How they been doing bad for months and McDavid still
43:15
outscoring both of them together so no other.
43:18
Yeah. Terry Terry Pasternak is.
43:21
Yeah, Terry, that's like a guy. That's a holiday level I think
43:25
some good trades over the years though, I think I think honestly
43:28
like. A lot of.
43:30
Most of my really bad offers don't get accepted like the ones
43:34
that would be bad for me. Like I look at the end because
43:36
I'll screenshot of them and I'll send them to you guys, right,
43:38
the season, you know, I'll forget to delete them.
43:40
So at the end of season, like scroll through these
43:41
screenshots, add from the past and I'm like, I can't believe I
43:43
sent that. If they had accepted that, my
43:45
season would have been over. You know, you know, the trees
43:47
that do get accepted. I'm like, wow, that was actually
43:49
sick. I can't believe they.
43:50
So it's interesting how that works sometimes.
43:53
All right, Lavender grooms on discord asked what are your
43:58
thoughts on deep league sleepers prospects who can make a run
44:01
rest of season after the Olympic break.
44:03
So I guess it's because we always talk about, you know,
44:05
young guys, either they get called up or it's guys who are
44:08
like, you know, other team is like, alright, we're cooked for
44:10
the season. Let's let's give our young guys
44:12
some chances. So there's often young guys who
44:14
emerged in the last couple of weeks and are are good like
44:16
where some guys who are on your on your minds that could fit
44:20
this bill. To me, Zane Correct is one of
44:22
the names. I think Calgary, he might have a
44:25
shot at getting that power play one slot after the Olympics,
44:28
especially now that Anderson's gone and they don't even wanna
44:31
pull bigger there. So he's a name that I'm kind of
44:33
monitoring. Even though, you know, Calgary
44:34
doesn't have the best power play.
44:36
Anybody that gets power plant exposure is worth taking a look
44:38
at. If you're in a deep league,
44:40
like, you know, if it's a redraft league, this guy's not
44:43
rostered right now. So keep an eye there.
44:48
Off the top of my head, you guys have any names?
44:51
I I it look if the Habs keep the situation as is, I actually
44:55
really like all of her cap and the rest of the season he's
44:58
slowed down tremendously. But with Demedal really coming
45:02
into his own, like you can't mention them at all, he's
45:04
definitely goes above like he's on everyone's radar.
45:07
I think at this point Slough has been awesome.
45:10
I think capping in, it's kind of confusing as to why he slowed
45:15
down so much because it's still on that line.
45:18
So I really actually like his potential and that's not me
45:23
being a Homer, that's just me just looking at it objectively
45:25
and like I'm aware of the situation because he's on my
45:28
team. So I'd say he's kinda under the
45:31
radar or. Less.
45:33
Yeah, Yeah, no, I like that. I mean, I was just trying to
45:37
like rack my brain on one and I don't know if this would count,
45:40
but maybe Will Cooley on the Rangers.
45:43
I feel like if they sell away all their power play on pieces,
45:46
he's been on power play one earlier this year.
45:47
I think all it takes is one or two of those guys to be gone and
45:50
he'll be on power play one. He's already a pretty elite
45:52
bangers guy, elite playoff schedule, so I could see him
45:57
being pretty solid rest of the season.
45:59
Not that he hasn't been already, but like just getting that power
46:01
play 1 I think would be a big boost for him.
46:03
I'm just trying to think like, you want to think of like teams
46:05
that are not making the playoffs, they're selling,
46:08
right, and they can give those young guys some more ice time.
46:10
But it's honestly really young. I don't think he mentioned like
46:13
specifically. I mean he had prospects but
46:15
sleepers would not. Doesn't necessarily tell young
46:18
and just until someone does like not high rostered.
46:20
Yeah. But I feel like that's usually
46:23
what leads to these like, end of season runs.
46:25
It's usually because it's like these young prospects who come
46:29
out and come out of nowhere just because the team wants to give
46:31
them some experience once they're not making the playoffs
46:33
this year. So that's where my mind goes.
46:36
You know PLD coming back from injury has a chance to be in the
46:41
top 6 for Washington again. Like an influx of talent would
46:45
hurt Justin Sourdiffe, but. No, no, that can't happen.
46:50
You might just be what the protest needs to finally score
46:54
something on the power play. You're going back to the upside
46:59
down. Yeah, those are those are some
47:02
good ones though, alright. And you know what if one last
47:06
one, and I don't know exactly how this can necessarily play
47:10
out, but Michael Misa is supposed to be really good.
47:15
And I feel like as time goes on, you know that he's going to get
47:19
better and better and get more opportunity.
47:22
I don't know if he'll ever play with celebrity.
47:25
Or already. Yeah, I don't think that's
47:29
games. Yeah.
47:31
So I think Michael misses. Definitely someone to to keep an
47:34
eye on. And one more, one more name from
47:37
me. 7% owned in Yahoo leagues right now.
47:41
Not young at all, but could get traded to a better situation.
47:45
And that's Connor Garland for me.
47:47
I know he's been one of the names from Vancouver that
47:49
they're trying to ship out and some teams are interested.
47:51
Things like the middle 6 forward.
47:53
Thank you. She falls in the right team.
47:54
He could get a run where he's like pretty valuable for
47:56
fantasy. We've seen it before in the past
47:58
on Vancouver. Granted he's had better
48:00
deployment. So it just depends where he
48:01
goes. Evander Kane also apparently is
48:04
a has requested a trade so. Yeah.
48:08
I mean, I saw he's going either Dallas or Colorado or LA Those,
48:11
I mean those are. For him, but you never.
48:13
Know yeah I drafted him this year and he's been extremely
48:17
disappointing finally dropped him and have not looked back but
48:20
we'll see what the trade anything can happen right all
48:23
right let's move on gnome on discord asked you've talked
48:27
about saving a McDavid shot. You've talked about scoring on
48:30
McDavid. Do any of you think you could
48:32
take McDavid in a fight and win on the ice?
48:37
I'll put this out there, I could not win any fight on the ice
48:40
because first of all, I do not have that kind of talent on
48:44
skates. Do I have to be wearing skates?
48:47
Can just be wearing shoes on the ice?
48:48
Cause then I think I like my chances better, more stability
48:52
on my end. But how about you guys,
48:54
professional skaters out there? I absolutely cannot meet beat
48:58
McDavid in a fight. They only the only competition
49:02
that I'll win with McDavid is making sure that more than two
49:07
out of 10 breakaway, no more than 8 out of 10 breakaways do
49:11
not go in so. That's that's where I could be.
49:16
I feel like, I feel like I could give him a run for his money,
49:19
you know? OHS might make David.
49:26
You see, what I would do is I would sweep the leg and you
49:29
know, he wouldn't expect that because that's a dirty trick
49:33
that, you know, players would never do.
49:35
So I think if I, if I go dirty, then maybe I'd have a chance.
49:38
But no, I'm a I'm a lover, not a fighter, so.
49:41
You know, I think I love him to death.
49:43
On the the to Chokes podcast, Matthew was just like roasting
49:48
Brady for being like, I think like I could kinda take Derek
49:51
Henry and like a a trucking contest or.
49:54
Something like that. Derrick Henry Josh is like is a
49:59
running back in the. NFL and he's on the Ravens so.
50:02
There you go. We gotta go.
50:03
Josh knows. Like O'brady's like a monster.
50:06
He's probably one of the best fighters in the league probably.
50:09
But like this guy is an absolute truck.
50:12
So that's that's that's what this reminds me of anyway.
50:15
So none of us can take McDavid, but when you guys go shootouts.
50:19
And answer this question, which of us is most likely to be able
50:23
to one of us would last the longest in a fight with McDavid?
50:28
OK, yeah, for specified in the fight with McDavid, not me.
50:37
There you go. It feels under, it feels on like
50:38
you know in the parking lot. I like my.
50:40
Eyes. It's in a parking lot.
50:42
Kevin's got his crowbar, you know.
50:46
Me and Matthew Olivier came together.
50:48
He's backing me. Up.
50:50
Yeah, I I like your odds in that situation too.
50:53
After you. Think of as a + 1 to your
50:55
wedding. You know, you guys would like
50:56
Olive Garden after or something And then like David shows up the
51:00
tram. Everything all right, Let's go
51:07
to the next question, OK? Joshua Fearon on Discord asked
51:12
how much of your fantasy opinions are based on itest
51:14
versus stash deployment. If you could watch every game,
51:17
would it impact your takes? I think it would definitely
51:21
impact my takes. I think that I love, I mean,
51:24
stats and deployment is what we have most access to because at
51:28
the end of the day, we can't watch every game, right?
51:30
But I test does a lot of heavy lifting.
51:33
Like it kind of like I'll go off stats and deployment to kind of
51:36
show me who I might be interested in, but then like to
51:39
pull that trigger and know, Oh, this is just like this guys
51:42
gonna get bumped down any in like a day or like, oh, this is
51:45
a serious like player who's like actually doing something with
51:48
his deployment and I like what he's doing.
51:50
That's where the eye test comes in and I always talk about it.
51:52
I think early season is the most important time for that because
51:55
everything's new. It's a new season, new teams,
51:57
new players, all that. So seeing guys like a lot of
52:01
times guys who don't have the deployment yet, right, You'll
52:03
see a guy who's like a young player line 3 power play 2,
52:06
something like that. But he's the top 6 is pretty
52:08
wide open and you see the way he's playing on and you're like,
52:10
you know what, this there's something here.
52:12
So I definitely think if I could watch every game, I'd be a lot
52:15
better of a fantasy player. Yeah, I, I remember Kevin has a
52:21
well, I guess he's my friend too.
52:22
But one of Kevin's friends did fantasy football and he told me
52:26
one year he actually did not watch it all and based solely on
52:29
stats, and he won because of it. Because it takes out the
52:32
emotional bias completely, Justin.
52:35
Oh, yeah, Yeah. So you're my friend too, Justin,
52:38
if you're listening. Anyways, all this to say, all
52:41
this to say, like it could, if you take the bias out, like
52:46
you're watching and let's say you already have, you know,
52:49
either you love one team, so you don't want them on your those
52:53
players on your team where you do, or if that's, let's say the
52:56
case for a few teams that can cloud your judgment.
52:58
But let's say you go into it completely, completely
53:01
objectively and you're just doing stats.
53:03
I think that may be the best way to do it because it's just the
53:06
numbers game. You're just looking at the
53:07
numbers. You don't care about the actual
53:09
so, but the Artest is fun. It enhances the enjoyment.
53:13
I'd say even if it makes you a worse fantasy players still
53:16
don't not watch hockey because I I found the whole thing with
53:20
fantasy is that it just makes watching hockey more enjoyable.
53:23
That's kind of the crux of why I like it a lot.
53:28
That being said, look, I mean, if we added a category here or
53:33
there, took away one or the other, it would be one thing.
53:35
But I think like if you're just going purely off stats, like I
53:37
guess I'm taking the other side of the coin here, Josh, it could
53:40
work out it better for your season.
53:44
In terms of, you know, the, the question that that Joshua asked,
53:49
I, I think for me personally, I would say it's about 30% eye
53:53
test, 70% stats and I think. That percent reason to remember
53:57
the name, Sorry. Yes, exactly.
54:00
That's such wise words speaking. Nobody has ever said a word
54:02
before. You just come up with that,
54:04
Dang. But, uh, I mean, I watch a lot
54:09
of hockey. I think every night I have, you
54:10
know, if there's one game on, I'm watching it.
54:13
If there is five games on, I'm watching probably four of them.
54:15
So that's kind of how it's, it is for me.
54:18
I try to keep a pulse on, on, you know, the whole league.
54:21
Even guys are not on my team. And I do think watching players
54:24
on the ISI, sometimes it helps satisfy me when I see zeros on
54:29
the status sheet, like I'll see Panera and get like no points or
54:32
something and no shots, no nothing.
54:34
And I'm watching the game and I see like the puck is always on
54:37
his stick. He's setting up guys.
54:39
You know, people are missing the nest.
54:40
They're not converting our chances.
54:42
It makes you feel a little bit better about the zeros.
54:43
It makes you take it more with a grain of salt and have more
54:46
context on like, OK, it wasn't just like free skating out
54:49
there. He was actually doing stuff.
54:50
It just didn't end up working out.
54:51
I'm not going to read too much into it.
54:53
That's kind of like where I helped, where I had the eye test
54:55
helped me a lot in my judgment and you know how I feel about
54:58
certain players and not read into what the stats say on the
55:01
on the stat sheet. But at the end of the day, also,
55:04
like a lot of what happened on this can be interpreted by the
55:06
numbers. And I think you need to use that
55:08
data for your benefit, right? And I think we do really good
55:11
mix here at Bangor Management, like, you know, using both to
55:14
the best of our abilities and uh, hopefully we're helping a
55:18
lot of people out there with when they're fantasy league.
55:20
Yeah. Yeah.
55:22
But just to like, yeah. And also just out on it.
55:24
Like my thing I'd say is also like a similar 7030 split, but I
55:28
just meant like in an ideal world what would yield the
55:31
better results? Pros and cons?
55:33
Yeah, but I definitely watch and that helps me develop my
55:37
opinion. The only thing I don't watch is
55:40
when my goal is playing because every time I do they immediately
55:43
let in a goal. So, and that's why when we used
55:46
to record in person, Kevin would purposely put on any game where
55:48
my goalie was playing just to get them scored on.
55:51
OK, most of the time I actually have players in that game too
55:53
that I just wanna watch. Just so happens to be that the
55:55
scoring like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
55:58
All right. Last question, Jordanian Discord
56:00
asked if you could draft any NFL, MLB, NBA soccer player to
56:05
your NHL team. They get typical NHL player
56:08
skating ability. Who would it be and why?
56:11
So any athlete from a different sport.
56:15
I'm not sure if he meant to like the Habs or if you meant like
56:18
our fantasy team. So you guys can interpret that
56:20
how you want? Yeah.
56:23
Who would you want on your team? Kevin Kigoma will the good
56:27
answer. I I have one, I think, Josh, do
56:29
you? I don't follow any of these
56:32
other sports. So you guys, you guys go 1st and
56:34
I'll just say like any, any name I could think of.
56:38
Yeah, I mean. I I want oh, I was gonna say I
56:42
want Cam Stata Boo on my fantasy team because this guy will put
56:48
Matthew Olivier to shame if you guys don't know who Kim
56:51
scattered. No idea who.
56:52
You need to watch more New York Giants football.
56:55
I know, that's hilarious. He will be the fourth line, the
57:01
4th. He'll be the new Sean Carelli of
57:03
like 2022. That was I was bragging about on
57:07
my fantasy team forever because he was getting me shots.
57:09
Face off wins, hit them blocks and Pimms that scam scatter Boo.
57:13
OK, I love. That was like the most fun
57:17
player in the NFL. He's a rookie.
57:19
Like he just finished his rookie season.
57:20
He got hurt unfortunately, but like he was just absolutely
57:24
hilarious as like a running back.
57:26
He's super good too. He's an absolute truck.
57:28
Like let's just trust answer. Josh, you don't know, there was
57:32
memes because they were just being like, this guy's an idiot.
57:34
We love him. Like he's just, he's just like
57:37
the classic quote UN quote, like meathead.
57:38
Like there's videos of him like hitting his head against a brick
57:40
wall and stuff. Like this guy's just a lunatic.
57:43
Oh, we love him. Yeah.
57:46
Oh, wow. OK, that that's impossible to
57:49
talk. I was gonna, I was gonna say,
57:53
imagine like Leo Messi just playing hockey.
57:58
He'd he'd be Pavel Datsyuk, that's who.
58:00
Messi would. Be I feel like, yeah, but like
58:02
how he's dominated in soccer. If you could get like a similar
58:05
level of dominance, you know what I mean?
58:07
Like the finesse of dots, who makes so much sense, but with
58:09
like the vision of Crosby, it's kind of like, that'd be nuts.
58:14
Absolutely. Nuts.
58:15
That'd be a player to Hobbs could use.
58:17
Yeah, sure. That's it.
58:19
OK, I think I got 1. I think I would go with the from
58:22
what I've heard, I don't follow your sport at all.
58:24
But no, I would go with the with the show.
58:25
Hey Otani. I feel like from what I've heard
58:30
he's both unreal at offence and defence.
58:32
So I could see him being like, I'm thinking fantasy wise I see
58:34
anything like dual eligible like left wing and defensemen and
58:37
like you like over a point forgave you.
58:39
Know New Jersey and my wardrobe? That's crazy.
58:45
Before the team had another Dodgers.
58:47
So we don't support the Dodgers because they just buy every
58:49
player and it's not fun. OK, yeah, yeah, like like a
58:53
point and a half a game and four blocks and.
58:55
Like yeah, exactly. Yes, that would be insane.
58:59
That would be insane, Duo. Wow, OK, I guess that wraps it
59:04
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59:34
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59:36
Is it Cam sketchbook the GOAT? Oh my God Josh, I need a look up
59:40
Camscanner who after this I will not.
59:42
For the name alone. Yeah, exactly.
59:46
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59:52
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59:57
You just had to take it away. Does it hit?
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So I'm sorry I'm. Sorry, I was too calling hope.