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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful folks?
- 0:01Welcome to another episode of Mornings with Lee, your favorite
- 0:04self aware narcissist. Yeah, this morning we talked
- 0:08about spotting a narcissist on the first date.
- 0:10Spotted them early on. Like how the hell do you know
- 0:16that you're dealing with a toxic narcissistic person very early
- 0:21on? Like when you're first sitting
- 0:22down at the dinner table, like Lee, you got to help us out
- 0:26here. Like do they eat funny?
- 0:28Do they have a third eye? Do they have a third nostril?
- 0:31Do they have a a snake like tongue?
- 0:34What is it? How can you tell that they are
- 0:37narcissists very early on? Please help us leave.
- 0:39Please, this, this snake, this split tug thing is crazy.
- 0:46I'm sorry. Yeah, sometimes.
- 0:48Sometimes I say stupid stuff. I mean, yeah, sometimes I do
- 0:52make myself laugh. I I really, really do.
- 0:56But this is something you have to get used to, y'all, when you
- 0:58deal with narcissistic people, is that like, we're going to say
- 1:02some crazy stuff, but the fastest, most efficient way to
- 1:06spot a narcissist on a first date, y'all, is to listen.
- 1:11Become an observer. Observer, not observer,
- 1:15observer, right? Because a lot of people don't
- 1:19seem like it's not that you don't understand it.
- 1:21It's like so many people get tied up in your own stuff like
- 1:25you not, not that you're a narcissistic, right?
- 1:27So many people are so accustomed to dealing with narcissists and
- 1:31toxic people that you expect a narcissist to just talk about
- 1:35themselves, right? But that's not going to be true
- 1:38for most. For a lot of narcissists, a lot
- 1:40of narcissists, the people right, especially the covert
- 1:42ones, are literally going to just listen to you.
- 1:46They are observers. They want to observe.
- 1:49They want to literally listen to you, to pick you apart, right?
- 1:53To understand what you like and what you don't like to get you
- 1:56to fall for them in like in order to create the mask, I have
- 2:00to know who you are. Don't I think about it like
- 2:05that. In order for me to create this
- 2:07mask, I have to understand who you are.
- 2:10So I I listen. So you need to observe it.
- 2:13Like if you on a first date with somebody or you just getting to
- 2:16know someone, make sure that there is an equal distribution
- 2:20of information. Lee, what the hell do you mean
- 2:23by that? Make sure that you're not the
- 2:25only one talking right? Spotted a covert narcissist is
- 2:29very difficult and does this work for everybody to know
- 2:31narcissists are evolving, y'all. But spotted a narcissist is very
- 2:35difficult, especially a covert one because they're going to be
- 2:38listening. They're going to be everything
- 2:40that you want. They they're going to listen
- 2:41because you, you get so accustomed to, to, to thinking a
- 2:44narcissist don't listen. Then when you hear, get a person
- 2:47that's listening to you like, oh, this can't be a narcissist
- 2:49cause narcissists always talk about themselves.
- 2:51This person is letting me talk about me.
- 2:54This person is super interested in me.
- 2:56Now, I'm not saying that everybody is super interested in
- 2:58you is a narcissist, right? But this, this, this, Let this
- 3:01go up. I don't have my one more, one
- 3:04more red flags there. I ain't got my red flags around.
- 3:07I got a red shirt, though. I got a red shirt.
- 3:12Let that just be a lesson type of thing for you right there.
- 3:15Because narcissistic people, yes, are going to talk about
- 3:17themselves, but a lot of them covert ones are just going to
- 3:20listen to you. They like listening to you.
- 3:22They like to hear your spiel. They like to hear what you have
- 3:24to say, right? So, you know, you have to learn
- 3:29how to protect yourself in these circumstances because that
- 3:31narcissistic person is going like make sure if they ask you a
- 3:34deep penetrating question that you, if you decide to answer it,
- 3:38make sure that they are answering the question equally,
- 3:43like if they ask you what's yours.
- 3:44Look, since we get in to know, since we get in to know each
- 3:47other and the drinks are flowing, tell me a secret that
- 3:51you haven't told anybody else. And then for some reason you
- 3:54tell them, right? Because you're trying to get to
- 3:56know this person. They cute, they got dreads or
- 3:58whatever, you and they cute, you mean, now I'm just joking, but
- 4:03you tell them, right? And then when you tell them, you
- 4:06ask them something and they're just like, well, I don't really
- 4:08have any secrets. Like you don't expose a deep
- 4:11dark secret. Might not be the biggest secret
- 4:13of your life, but you've exposed one, right?
- 4:16And now and now you ask them to expose a secret of theirs and
- 4:19they've like, I don't really have secrets.
- 4:21I'm just, I'm an open book really.
- 4:22I don't have any deep dark secrets.
- 4:28You see that right there is that reciprocity is is, are they
- 4:31reciprocating anything with you right there?
- 4:35You see what I'm saying? No, they're not.
- 4:37That person right there is probing you for information.
- 4:40So you now you shared a deep dark secret that they can
- 4:42probably use against you later on if this relationship
- 4:45progresses and you don't know anything about them.
- 4:47Make sure that you are learning about them as much as they are
- 4:51learning about you. That's it right there.
- 4:53Yeah, that's what I want to say that you like.
- 4:55Make sure that you are at least learning as much about them as
- 4:59they are learning about you. At least If you feel like you're
- 5:03over sharing and they're under sharing, that's that's unequal
- 5:06because a lot of covert narcissists will under share or
- 5:09they'll share just enough to keep you interested.
- 5:12They look, they yeah, yeah, they start off, they start off the
- 5:14relationship breadcrumbin. They started off using
- 5:18intermittent reinforcement. They start off, they start the
- 5:21relationship off by just giving you enough right to follow to
- 5:25fall for them, giving you enough to keep you interested.
- 5:28They start off just by doing just enough, right?
- 5:33So you see how that goes right there.
- 5:34So if you're dealing with this type of this personality type,
- 5:36that's what you got to understand.
- 5:37Like the covert narcissists are harder to spot and they take
- 5:41longer to out right. So just make sure that you
- 5:45there's just a fool that it's it's a telltale sign.
- 5:49It's not the it's not foolproof, y'all, Because again, not
- 5:51everybody that's interested in you is going to be narcissistic,
- 5:54right? Just make sure that they're
- 5:56assuring information will leave. What if they're just an avoided?
- 6:00Do you really want to deal with an avoiding person?
- 6:02That's you. You have to try to crack open
- 6:04like a damn a walnut instead of somebody that is willing to
- 6:07share. There's not.
- 6:09I'm not telling you to avoid avoiding people avoiding
- 6:11personality types, right? I'm just saying that you have to
- 6:14understand that so many people out here are only in it for
- 6:16them. They're only in it for
- 6:17themselves, right? Avoiding personality types.
- 6:20I'm not saying that they're bad people because avoidance mere
- 6:23condemn near look like narcissists, right?
- 6:25They might not be narcissists, but they can look like
- 6:27narcissists. You know what I mean?
- 6:29So that's something you have to think about too.
- 6:31On the other hand, another way to spot a narcissist very early
- 6:34on, on the first date or first dates is y'all the overt
- 6:40malignant narcissists are very, I'm not saying that they're easy
- 6:43to spot, but every single overt malignant narcissist that I've
- 6:47ever met, you can tell they, they tend to be flamboyant
- 6:52assholes. Let's keep it high.
- 6:54Some of my some of my good old friends are overt narcissists.
- 6:59You can tell they talk too damn much.
- 7:01They don't let you get a word in.
- 7:03They brag about their life and their accomplishments.
- 7:05They try to make it seem like they're the best thing that you
- 7:08were ever going to deal with the best person that you've ever met
- 7:10in your life. You can tell these people they
- 7:12dress flamboyantly. You know what I'm saying?
- 7:15You could tell these people again, if that's what you were
- 7:17attracted to. Hey, buckle your seatbelts cuz
- 7:20you going you in for a bumpy ride.
- 7:21Cuz he that my friend that's very over.
- 7:23He get a lot of girls. He get a lot of girls.
- 7:26Yep, got a lot of girls. You know, he knows you can just
- 7:29tell he asshole, he's down there.
- 7:30People don't like him, but girls throw themselves out there like,
- 7:33hey, I don't know what it is, but they're over malignant,
- 7:37toxic shit that he's saying. People be biting, He throwing
- 7:40that look, he throwing some toxic bait in the water and
- 7:43people be eating it up again. Didn't they be surprised that
- 7:46he's a horrible person? I'd be like, I didn't know you
- 7:49would do this. What?
- 7:49You really, OK, I'm not blaming anybody out, but I'm just saying
- 7:55like we got to use discernment, right?
- 7:57Use our discernment better because the overt narcissist or
- 8:00easy, they they're easy. Sometimes they can be easier to
- 8:03spot than the covert narcissist, right?
- 8:05But also this point right here, when you're getting to know
- 8:07somebody early on this to me right here, and this is going to
- 8:11be this probably is something that you might not have heard
- 8:13before, right? This to me is an easy way to
- 8:16spot narcissistic people on the first or second date, right?
- 8:19Especially the second date if you have an awful first date,
- 8:24but then you give them a second chance and the second date is
- 8:26perfect. Destiny is a red flag of a
- 8:29narcissistic person right here right, yes.
- 8:31Can people yes. Can people correct their issues
- 8:34after the first date if it went horribly?
- 8:36Yeah, some of them can, but it's the it's the intent.
- 8:39If they were truly being themselves and it was a horrible
- 8:42first date, you felt like you were getting manipulated.
- 8:44You felt like you getting lied to or gas lid or whatever, but
- 8:48you feel like this person was just not your type right.
- 8:51And then you told them that you told them everything they went
- 8:53wrong. And then all of a sudden on the
- 8:54second date or the third day, the next time y'all see each
- 8:56other, everything is magically fixed.
- 8:58That's manipulation. That's not who they really are.
- 9:02You see what I'm saying? Now all of a sudden they're this
- 9:04magical person. I see that so much, y'all.
- 9:06That's when I'm doing my one on ones over Zoom.
- 9:08People say that like the first date was horrible.
- 9:10I should have left after the first date, but I decided to
- 9:11give him the second chance. I told him everything they did
- 9:14wrong. Then the second date was
- 9:15magical. Why wouldn't it be magical?
- 9:18You've given him the abracadabra, you giving them the
- 9:22magic, you giving them the spell, why wouldn't it be
- 9:25magical? You told them everything they
- 9:27needed for the witch's brew for the elixir and they just made
- 9:30it. Then you gave them the recipe,
- 9:31they just made it, why wouldn't it be magical?
- 9:38I know I can get out of beta y'all, but seriously, that could
- 9:41be a red flag that a lot of people don't talk about.
- 9:42The second date is magical, but the first date is horrible.
- 9:46A lot of times it's because the first date they were really
- 9:49being themselves. The second date they put the
- 9:52mask on. You see everyone just telling
- 9:55people like it's, it's AI mean. I'm not saying it's a science,
- 9:58but it's science like, right, It's science like when you're
- 10:02dealing with this personality type y'all and whatnot.
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