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The Unexplained Sudbrick Phone Calls | Trey Hudson · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: the description. So you've heard of ghosts, paranormal activity, poltergeist activity,
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Speaker 1: cattle mutilations, aliens, extraterrestrial abductions, but have you heard of
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Speaker 1: alien phone calls? Well, this is the case of the
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Speaker 1: Sudbrink family the Subbrink phone Calls of nineteen ninety three.
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Speaker 1: Gary Sudbrink was an Air Force captain. Living in San Antonio, Texas,
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Speaker 1: he flew to Long Island, New York to visit his
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Speaker 1: friends and family. While there, he experienced many strange and
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Speaker 1: unsettling phone calls on a landline of his father's home.
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Speaker 1: This case is very intriguing and has doppel Ginger activity
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Speaker 1: UFO in the Salien phone calls, and here to discuss
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Speaker 1: it with US is former d D in US Army
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Speaker 1: Military Intelligence Security Specialist anti terrorism counterintelligence Trey Hudson. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to the show.
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Speaker 2: How's it going, Hey, doing great? Doing great. Had a
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Speaker 2: bad group of storms that move through here this morning,
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Speaker 2: but everybody survived and you know, we're doing good. I'm
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Speaker 2: really looking forward to this one.
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Speaker 3: Lean.
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Speaker 2: Like I was telling you before the show, this one
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Speaker 2: is this is an enigma. This is going to be
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Speaker 2: kind of tough to you know, to wrap with a
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Speaker 2: you know, a nice bow and send it off to
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Speaker 2: the easy to explain or easy to pass off as
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Speaker 2: you know, a misunderstanding or a misidentification. So this was
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Speaker 2: really cool. So I appreciate you know, having me on today,
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Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be a fun show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really intrigued by this. I followed this
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Speaker 1: channel called Bedtime Stories and I followed it for about
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Speaker 1: six years now. I've been following it and they have
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Speaker 1: like a lot of weird and strange stories and they
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Speaker 1: put artwork, they make all the artwork, and then they
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Speaker 1: tell the story through a narrator. And that's where I've
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Speaker 1: found a lot of really strange and weird stories. And
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Speaker 1: I sent it to you and I was like, what
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Speaker 1: do you think of this thing? And that's what inspired
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Speaker 1: the show today. And we also had done the Kamar
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Speaker 1: Duban incident in Russia, which was also in nineteen ninety three,
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Speaker 1: and then we did the Stephen Kubacki episode of the
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Speaker 1: guy that went missing and then reappeared. How long was
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Speaker 1: it after that? Like five to ten years? Was it
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Speaker 1: two years or it was a while he disappeared and
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Speaker 1: then he reappeared. And so now we're on this mysterious
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Speaker 1: alien phone calls now I had heard of and we
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Speaker 1: have some clips that we're going to play of the
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Speaker 1: three phone calls that he received, him and his family received.
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Speaker 1: But I've heard of like paranormal phone calls before, of
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Speaker 1: like ghost and sometimes they get warning from like ghosts
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Speaker 1: and things like that, like if a family member dies,
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Speaker 1: they'll receive a phone call from that family member. I've
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Speaker 1: heard of that, and that's really interesting. And also I've
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Speaker 1: heard of like strange paranormal phone calls that will like
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Speaker 1: warn them of something in the future, like the death
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Speaker 1: of like a family member or death of a friend
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Speaker 1: or some disaster. Had you heard of those before?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually I had. I you know, I went to
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Speaker 2: the University of West Georgia and studied under doctor William
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Speaker 2: Roll and one incident, doctor Role invited me to go
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Speaker 2: with him to a kind of a very intimate kind
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Speaker 2: of gathering of people in Atlanta, and one of the
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Speaker 2: people there was Scott Rogo, who wrote the book Phone
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Speaker 2: Calls from the Debt, And that goes into you know,
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Speaker 2: my personal opinion, the paranormal, the you fo and all
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Speaker 2: that I think is all part of one one thing.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, uh, mister Ruggo wrote a lot
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Speaker 2: about you know, people, as you talked about earlier, receiving
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Speaker 2: phone calls from you know, deceased relatives or you know,
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Speaker 2: people that were friends that had passed on, you know,
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Speaker 2: either recently or years and years and years ago. And
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Speaker 2: this phenomena, you know, isn't really that unusual.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: The idea of using a machine to communicate with the
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Speaker 2: other side, you know, the others, isn't new.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: It's the technical term for it. It's called instrumental transcommunication.
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Speaker 2: And we can go all the way back to the Bible, uh,
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Speaker 2: where the uh, the Arc of the Covenant was built
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Speaker 2: and was used as a communication device with God. You know,
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Speaker 2: it was a machine, and it had certain elements to it,
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Speaker 2: and it had to be built in a certain way,
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Speaker 2: and that actually was an instrument used to communicate with
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Speaker 2: another dimension. So that was one of the first you know,
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Speaker 2: written examples in the Talmud of instrumental transcommunication. And we
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Speaker 2: move forward, you know, here into the twenty first century,
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Speaker 2: and we have telephones VR or VCRs. I'm showing my age.
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Speaker 1: I remember VCRs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, videos, and you know now computers. Everybody's heard of
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Speaker 2: electronic voice phenomena EVP. So you know, this is just
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Speaker 2: another facet of using instrumentation to communicate with something else,
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Speaker 2: something beyond our three dimensions. John Keel called him a
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Speaker 2: ultra terrestrials. I call them para dimensionals, but you know,
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Speaker 2: communicating with something else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's important to set up this
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Speaker 1: so as I mentioned this gentleman Sudbrink. Gary Sudbrink, he
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Speaker 1: lived in Antonio, Texas. He worked for the Air Force.
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Speaker 1: He was an Air Force officer. And the strange part
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Speaker 1: about it is like leading up to it. So in
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two he decided to go to Long Island.
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Speaker 1: He had this really strange encounter on this airplane where
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Speaker 1: this guy was asking him all these questions and he's
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Speaker 1: in his military uniform and this guy is basically not
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Speaker 1: leaving him alone. And then he goes to his brother's
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Speaker 1: reception in Long Island, New York, and whenever he gets there,
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Speaker 1: he hadn't talked to his brother yet. And then when
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Speaker 1: his brother came up to him, he was like, hey, like,
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Speaker 1: that was really weird of you. Earlier I saw you
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Speaker 1: at a traffic light. You pulled up in your car
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Speaker 1: and you were making like all these weird and strange
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Speaker 1: faces at me, and then you just sped off. And
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Speaker 1: Gary Sudbrink was like, well, that's impossible. That couldn't have
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Speaker 1: been me because I flew in. It wasn't my car.
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Speaker 1: I don't have my car here with me. I flew
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Speaker 1: into Long Island. And then that kind of plays a
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Speaker 1: role later on with these phone calls, and the doppelganger
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Speaker 1: aspect is really interesting seen as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if if I recall when he was at the
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Speaker 2: airport getting ready to go to Long Island, and I
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Speaker 2: think he was initially approached by somebody in the gate
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Speaker 2: area with with a spiral bound pad and was asking
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Speaker 2: him a whole lot of questions like you know, what's
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Speaker 2: your name? Where you're going instead it was part of
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Speaker 2: a survey, uh. And then he got onto the plane
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Speaker 2: and there was an individual sitting in the seat across
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Speaker 2: the aisle from him who had longish hair, was mail
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Speaker 2: and likewise was asking him about uh, you know, you
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Speaker 2: know a lot of really personal questions, and the stewardess
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Speaker 2: you said, you're in somebody's seat. You need to you know,
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Speaker 2: you need to move so that the strange long haired
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Speaker 2: guy moves like two rows back, you know, still trying
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Speaker 2: to strike up a conversation with Captain Sudbrink. And then
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Speaker 2: the steward said, no, no, you're way in the back
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Speaker 2: of the airplane. So this you have, you know, two
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Speaker 2: people you know really kind of you know, picking at
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Speaker 2: this guy asking a lot of information. And the first
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Speaker 2: thing that popped into me in my mind was uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, of course old counter intelligence guy. I was thinking,
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Speaker 2: you know, could this be some sort of elicitation attempt,
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Speaker 2: you know, by you know, either a test uh you
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Speaker 2: know to see if he would disclose information, or if
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Speaker 2: it was you know, an elicitation from a not you know,
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Speaker 2: a uh another uh country or something. And so I
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Speaker 2: started digging a little bit back into Sidbrink. And he
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Speaker 2: was a pharmacist, so he while he may have some
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Speaker 2: access to sensitive information, he wasn't really in the sensitive
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Speaker 2: information business, you know, unless you know you're getting your
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Speaker 2: rhethromycin is sensitive data. Uh. So you know, it's it
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Speaker 2: was really weird, and it kind of set you know,
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Speaker 2: kind of set the whole you know, the whole crooks
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Speaker 2: for this thing. You know, he kind of set the
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Speaker 2: lift of fuse of high strangeness for this. So it
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Speaker 2: was uh yeah, started off with a bang. I mean
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Speaker 2: I started off with you know, some really really weird
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Speaker 2: stuff that kind of made my you know, my skin
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Speaker 2: kind of creep out a little bit when I was
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Speaker 2: reading about the airport encounter. And then, like you said,
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Speaker 2: it only got worse when he landed there in New
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Speaker 2: York and went and met with his family in Long Island.
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Speaker 1: And the really strange part about this is the second
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Speaker 1: time that he goes back. So he goes back a year.
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Speaker 1: He had a big break from being in the Air Force.
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Speaker 1: He had like a little bit of a vacation. I
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Speaker 1: think it was like a four day off thing. And
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Speaker 1: when you're in the military, you're supposed to well, from
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Speaker 1: my understanding, you can tell me if I'm wrong on this,
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Speaker 1: but you're supposed to alert your officers and your superior
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Speaker 1: officers and the people that you're leaving the state or
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Speaker 1: if you're going out of town. So he decided not
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Speaker 1: to let the Air Force know or his superior officers
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Speaker 1: that he was going to go back to New York City,
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Speaker 1: so nobody knew that he was leaving Texas to go
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Speaker 1: back home to visit Long Island. Right, And whenever he
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Speaker 1: gets to Long Island to visit with his father, they
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Speaker 1: get this mysterious phone call. And I'm going to play
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Speaker 1: the first phone call here and we can comment on it.
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you who it is. Yeah, do you.
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Speaker 3: Want to speak to him?
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Speaker 4: The cameras?
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, who said, Stephen?
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Speaker 5: Are you playing games with me?
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Speaker 1: One see they initially think that this is like a prank,
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Speaker 1: that they're that they're being pranked, And at first glance,
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Speaker 1: when you're first listening to this, you'll kind of like, uh,
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Speaker 1: maybe this is like a prank like one of those boards.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, like it was really
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Speaker 1: popular in like the early two thousands where they would
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Speaker 1: have like these boards that you could program voices into
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Speaker 1: and then you can call. But this isn't ninety three.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that a lot of people had that
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Speaker 1: that type of technology to pull like a prank like that.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Let's keep listening.
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Speaker 5: Oh think if you're playing games, we're gonna kick your ash.
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Speaker 4: So how long you're going to be back from Texas?
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Speaker 3: Huh?
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Speaker 4: Who are being a person by the other voice?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: This you Steve idiot.
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Speaker 5: You're pissing me off.
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Speaker 3: It's jerk.
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you one. Let's see what it says.
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Speaker 5: Review one new call out of area is Stephen out
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Speaker 5: of the area.
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Speaker 4: You're going to be back from Texas? Bight said, again,
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Speaker 4: you're being a person by the other voice?
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Speaker 5: Wait, hold on, Stephen out of the calling area? What
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Speaker 5: do you don't know? He's in Queens. I don't know
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Speaker 5: who it.
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Speaker 4: Hello, here's cars sun break compare?
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Speaker 5: Who is this.
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Speaker 1: A Roman?
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Speaker 4: So long you going to be back from texts?
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Speaker 6: How was that against?
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Speaker 4: You're being a person by the other voice?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Be quiet?
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Speaker 3: Sorry?
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Speaker 5: Would you see that again?
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Speaker 4: Hello?
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Speaker 5: And being impersonated by wide voice?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Hello, carries sure?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Hold on a second?
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Speaker 5: Speak Yeah, what is your question? I'll answer it.
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Speaker 4: Extreem. So how long are you going to be back
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Speaker 4: from the Texans? How long you're being a person? The
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Speaker 4: other voice?
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Speaker 5: Right? What am I coming back? Is that your question?
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Speaker 3: Okay?
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Speaker 5: It was a break? Hold on? You want to know
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Speaker 5: when I'm coming back to Texas? Oh?
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Speaker 3: Is that your question? So?
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Speaker 4: How long are you going to be back from Texas?
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Speaker 4: How long am I going to be back?
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Speaker 5: That question doesn't make any sense? Okay, I'll be coming
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Speaker 5: back eventually. I can't tell you when. You should know
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Speaker 5: that question? To answer to the questions, because you seem
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Speaker 5: to know more about me than I.
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying? Are you anti galactic person?
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Speaker 5: Are you a space alien?
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Speaker 3: Sounds like he hung up. I can't believe this. It's
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Speaker 3: he hung up to carry see if he comes back?
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Speaker 3: All right, I'll hang up.
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Speaker 1: So that was the That was the first call. No
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Speaker 1: on first glance, like you're like, okay, this is some
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Speaker 1: weird electronic voice like but it gets stranger as the
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Speaker 1: when the other two calls start to come in. But
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Speaker 1: it seems like it's on like a repeating.
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Speaker 2: Yeah like loop. There's like a tape loop. And what's
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Speaker 2: what's interesting on this? Let me jump back a little
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Speaker 2: bit the part where the voice keeps saying, and I quote,
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Speaker 2: you are being impersonated by the other voice. What's you
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Speaker 2: know really important? Here is while Captain Sudbrink was at
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Speaker 2: his parents home, he called a longtime friend UH named Mike,
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Speaker 2: and he was talking to Mike and he said, you know, hey,
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Speaker 2: I'm in town, and you know, would you like to
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Speaker 2: get together? And Mike said, no, you and I have
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Speaker 2: already talked. Uh you told me that you had flown
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Speaker 2: into uh LaGuardia and you know, you and I spoke
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Speaker 2: And that was a litle bit different because Sudbrick had
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Speaker 2: actually flown into JFK And his friend Mike said, you know, look,
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Speaker 2: let's not worry about getting together. You sound like you
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Speaker 2: have a cold. The voice was off just a little
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Speaker 2: bit and while they were talking about this, you know,
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Speaker 2: because Gary did actually call, you know, Mike later and
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Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I just talked to you, you know
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Speaker 2: this other you know, I just heard from you. While
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Speaker 2: that call was going on, they had a they had
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Speaker 2: the actual and I'm trying to remember call fording beep
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Speaker 2: come up, and back in the nineties you had to
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Speaker 2: actually hit the handset to go over to your other call,
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Speaker 2: and then they switched over to the call with a
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Speaker 2: strange voice asking if Gary Sudbrink was there. So it
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Speaker 2: was weird that one of the things in that first
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Speaker 2: conversation was that other voice. See you're being impersonated by
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Speaker 2: the other voice, which actually broke into a conversation where
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Speaker 2: they were talking about that very thing. Now, it's not
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Speaker 2: like it is now with the avail ability of uh,
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Speaker 2: you know, cell phones and all that. It was all
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Speaker 2: not all of it, but most of it was analog,
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Speaker 2: you know, and it's very hard to kind of pull
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Speaker 2: the shenanigans unless you had, you know, some sort of
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Speaker 2: end with the phone company or you know, had you
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Speaker 2: had very very advanced capabilities beyond what your everage person
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Speaker 2: would have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really interesting aspect that his friend had
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Speaker 1: heard from him earlier that day and it sounded like
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Speaker 1: he had a cold, because whenever Gary called his friend,
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Speaker 1: his friend was essentially like, you you sound a lot better.
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Speaker 1: You already sound like you're you're already better.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: He was like shocked, but he was like, well, what
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Speaker 1: do you mean, Like, I haven't talked to you. What's
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Speaker 1: going on? So that's the two instances of like some
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Speaker 1: form of like doppelganger. So it was his brother that
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Speaker 1: seen him right in nineteen ninety two, and then in
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Speaker 1: ninety three, whenever he's back home and you receive receives
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Speaker 1: this strange call, his friend tells him that he had
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Speaker 1: essentially heard from earlier Buddy didn't quite sound like him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And the doppelganger thing is, you know,
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Speaker 2: very ancient. You know, the idea of a doppelganger or
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Speaker 2: another you once again goes back folklorically.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: You hear about like in Ireland the fay swapping out
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Speaker 2: a baby, you know, and you have like this doppelganger
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Speaker 2: baby and other people saying I saw another you, you know,
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Speaker 2: walking along the road you know earlier, So you know,
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Speaker 2: you're seeing this like very old concepts. You know of
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Speaker 2: instrumental transcommunication, communicating with devices, you know, whether it be
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Speaker 2: a sacred space, a machine or something, or the doppelganger.
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Speaker 2: So it's it's you know, it's hitting all of those
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Speaker 2: check marks for high strangeness. And I'll be honest with you,
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Speaker 2: just hearing that voice just kind of makes my skin crawl.
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Speaker 2: It's I had a very similar experience with a voice
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Speaker 2: like that calling me, uh, several years ago, and it
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Speaker 2: just kind of kind of, like I said, makes my
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Speaker 2: skin crawl just a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it.
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Speaker 1: Almost sounds like it's in like broken English, a little
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Speaker 1: bit like the person might not know the right exact
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Speaker 1: words to put together to make a a complete sentence,
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Speaker 1: because it keeps asking when are you going to be
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Speaker 1: back from Texas? Yeah, say when are you going to
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Speaker 1: be going back to Texas? When are you going to
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Speaker 1: be back from Texas?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 5: Right?
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Speaker 2: The syntax is odd, you know, which is kind of
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Speaker 2: weird because if you go back and read, you know,
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Speaker 2: accounts of the Men in Black is that's one of
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Speaker 2: the things people say is their syntax is very odd,
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Speaker 2: like they don't totally have a grasp of the language.
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Speaker 2: And I kind of got that same sort of feeling
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Speaker 2: with these you know, these audio recordings, is the speaker,
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Speaker 2: you know, be it biological, mechanical, or otherwise, does not
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Speaker 2: have a total grasp of the you know, the subtle
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Speaker 2: nuances of the English language.
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Speaker 1: Which I think kind of adds like credibility to the case,
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Speaker 1: because if it was just like a strange, weird like
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Speaker 1: voice that was just speaking like regularly and was actually
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Speaker 1: replying to the questions that they're asking, it almost sounds
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Speaker 1: like it's on like a recorder or it's being transferred
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Speaker 1: from some other different type of language. And the strange
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Speaker 1: thing about it is the second phone call, it kind
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Speaker 1: of sounds it kind of feels like the voice is
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Speaker 1: like powered down a little bit, Like the voice isn't
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Speaker 1: as loud, it's not as enunciated. It's like it's dropping
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Speaker 1: down in power. I don't know if that makes I
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Speaker 1: don't know really how to explain it, but it seems
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Speaker 1: like that it's that if it is some kind of
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Speaker 1: mechanical device that it's it only has a limited amount
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Speaker 1: of time to make its point and to get whatever
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Speaker 1: it is that it's saying to this person, and after
20:56
Speaker 1: a certain period of time, it kind of loses power
20:59
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how else to explain it.
21:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like it's it's losing juice, you know,
21:04
Speaker 2: kind of like you had, ah, well, what are we
21:07
Speaker 2: The first phone call reminded me of like a tape
21:10
Speaker 2: player on a loop, you know that had you know,
21:12
Speaker 2: first is Gary Sudbrink there? Then you know when you're
21:14
Speaker 2: gonna be back from Texas or however that was phrased.
21:17
Speaker 2: And then you know, then it just seems you're being
21:20
Speaker 2: personated by this other voice and it just keeps saying
21:22
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over. And then later on,
21:26
Speaker 2: you know, in the in the episode, you start getting
21:28
Speaker 2: a little bit more interaction, which I find interesting. But
21:30
Speaker 2: it does almost sound like a tape recorder starting to
21:32
Speaker 2: lose power to slow down like that.
21:36
Speaker 3: But uh it, uh it it it. It is a
21:40
Speaker 3: just just really weird, just just really really weird.
21:43
Speaker 1: All right, let's listen to the second phone call, because
21:45
Speaker 1: it starts to spice up a little bit here. Yeah, sure, yes,
21:53
Speaker 1: Oh and this was I think around twenty minutes after
21:58
Speaker 1: the first phone call.
21:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first phone call was at ten thirty. Uh
22:03
Speaker 2: so that's uh twenty two to thirty hours and then
22:06
Speaker 2: this was at twenty three ten eleven, ten pm, so
22:09
Speaker 2: just not that long afterwards.
22:12
Speaker 3: Uh speakings Parrad certainly? Yes. Can I answer any questions
22:25
Speaker 3: for you?
22:30
Speaker 4: How are you back?
22:31
Speaker 3: Thanks?
22:32
Speaker 7: Chirs?
22:34
Speaker 3: Not back yet?
22:35
Speaker 5: No?
22:39
Speaker 4: How long?
22:44
Speaker 5: Let me answer first? You would tell me where are
22:46
Speaker 5: you calling from?
22:53
Speaker 4: Rat?
22:55
Speaker 3: Yeah?
22:55
Speaker 5: Why don't you tell me where you're calling from? For Worsteners,
23:02
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
23:03
Speaker 3: Who is this?
23:03
Speaker 5: You should know who it is.
23:04
Speaker 3: It's me Carrie. Uh right, let me let me ask
23:18
Speaker 3: you this question.
23:19
Speaker 5: Where are you calling from?
23:27
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be back.
23:32
Speaker 1: This is where it's getting interesting. Keep an eye on
23:35
Speaker 1: the skies.
23:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:38
Speaker 2: And it's uh something that I took note of when
23:41
Speaker 2: I because I have a transcript. Here is this time
23:44
Speaker 2: when they said, you know, is this Gary Sudbrink? And
23:47
Speaker 2: the first call there was a stutter. Is this Gary?
23:51
Speaker 2: Says Sudbrink? The second time there is no stutter, and
23:56
Speaker 2: the now we're starting to see a little very similar phraseology.
24:01
Speaker 2: But they're actually different, uh different recordings. They are different,
24:04
Speaker 2: uh you know, instances of this voice speaking. So it's
24:07
Speaker 2: not like you know, whoever is making this is just
24:11
Speaker 2: regenerating the same, you know, is this Gary should Brink?
24:14
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's actually a new new voice or
24:17
Speaker 2: a new variation of the voice this time. Uh. So
24:21
Speaker 2: that's uh, that's kind of cool. And that adds to me,
24:23
Speaker 2: that adds a little bit of credibility to it, because
24:25
Speaker 2: if I was going to just start, you know, hammering
24:28
Speaker 2: them with the same questions, I wouldn't bother re recording
24:31
Speaker 2: is this Gary shouldbrink? I would just use the same
24:34
Speaker 2: you know, the same one before, but this one is
24:36
Speaker 2: distinctly different.
24:38
Speaker 5: Yeah.
24:38
Speaker 1: And you would think to you, is like, well, maybe
24:41
Speaker 1: he wasn't get it or understanding at the first time,
24:45
Speaker 1: so let's try and switch around a few words to
24:47
Speaker 1: make it more sensible to him.
24:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:50
Speaker 4: And uh.
24:52
Speaker 2: And it says are you back from Texas?
24:56
Speaker 3: You know?
24:57
Speaker 2: And then of course how long are you going to
24:59
Speaker 2: be back from tech?
25:00
Speaker 3: Is?
25:00
Speaker 2: Which is you know what we heard in the first recording?
25:03
Speaker 3: Ye excuse me?
25:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh.
25:11
Speaker 5: I can't hear too well. Yeah, there's a full moon
25:17
Speaker 5: at that's true. Could you identify yourself? Identify yourself?
25:31
Speaker 4: Why are you calling me?
25:35
Speaker 5: Excuse me?
25:38
Speaker 3: Oh, I.
25:41
Speaker 5: Cannot hear too well. Hold on, let me twitch phones. Okay, okay,
25:53
Speaker 5: hold on, now, who are you keep an eye in
26:02
Speaker 5: the sky. He said, keep yeah, okay, hold on? Uh
26:10
Speaker 5: say that repeat that again? Please repeat?
26:18
Speaker 3: Ah, okay, you're r near oryon.
26:29
Speaker 5: Ohly not go tonight?
26:31
Speaker 3: Well play some the full moon?
26:40
Speaker 4: Ta hook school out? Repeat m.
26:56
Speaker 5: How him I life to talk to? Okay, rep repeat
26:59
Speaker 5: last word. I'm hearing static?
27:04
Speaker 4: How am I likely?
27:07
Speaker 3: He hung up?
27:08
Speaker 5: He hung up.
27:10
Speaker 1: Hello, that one's super strange. Yeah, yeah, keep an eye
27:20
Speaker 1: on the sky near O'Ryan the full moon. What was
27:26
Speaker 1: the last one? Uh, show the double of you?
27:29
Speaker 2: I think yes, see it is. Uh, let's see. Uh
27:41
Speaker 2: keep an eye on the skies, show double of you.
27:47
Speaker 1: Show double of you. So this time we didn't get
27:53
Speaker 1: your being impersonated by the other voice. We got a
27:56
Speaker 1: different version of that, which was show double of you.
28:01
Speaker 2: So now it's not just saying, you know, there's a
28:03
Speaker 2: voice that sounds like you. Now it's implying that there'sn't
28:06
Speaker 2: actually a double, that there's actually another Gary should brink,
28:11
Speaker 2: you know, doppelganger, you know, out there somewhere, which would
28:15
Speaker 2: lend credence to you know, his brother Stephen's story about
28:18
Speaker 2: seeing him on the road, you know, prior to the
28:20
Speaker 2: wedding that they attended in ninety two.
28:25
Speaker 1: Well, something that's kind of disclosed in this call is
28:28
Speaker 1: Gary's father seeing in his brother, which would be Gary's
28:34
Speaker 1: uncle uncle. Yeah, they went to West Virginia to this
28:39
Speaker 1: observatory and they supposedly had a UFO siding. Now, apparently
28:47
Speaker 1: Gary's father and his uncle are really big UFO enthusiasts,
28:53
Speaker 1: like they're like UFO researchers, and they like love the phenomenon,
28:57
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of interesting as well. And
29:00
Speaker 1: maybe that is his father that is kind of pushing
29:05
Speaker 1: him in the towards the direction that maybe this is
29:07
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial or like an alien voice. I don't know.
29:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it was interesting that, you know, one
29:16
Speaker 2: of the right off the bat, they say, you know,
29:18
Speaker 2: are you an intergalactic person? Which is uh, kind of
29:21
Speaker 2: an odd, you know, turn of phrase there. And then
29:25
Speaker 2: you know, Gary's father, like you said, is interested in
29:27
Speaker 2: the UFO phenomena. They went to the uh, the the
29:30
Speaker 2: Green Bank Observatory there in West Virginia and UH and
29:36
Speaker 2: had their own UFO siding there. And then the father
29:40
Speaker 2: starts trying to link the two later on in the conversation, Uh,
29:45
Speaker 2: and what's what's something else that's really Cool.
29:49
Speaker 1: Is UH.
29:51
Speaker 2: Is the Long Island has a lot of really strange
29:54
Speaker 2: UFO type history. You know, it's it's an area, especially
29:58
Speaker 2: a place called Mountain Misery, UH. And many of the
30:02
Speaker 2: people that had experiences back in the sixties at Mount Misery,
30:06
Speaker 2: Long Island started having uh, you know, strange phone calls
30:10
Speaker 2: and harassing things. And John Keele even writes about it
30:14
Speaker 2: and breaks down you know, the different types of harassing
30:17
Speaker 2: phone calls, you know, in his uh you know, in
30:19
Speaker 2: his book UH and and also you know, in more
30:22
Speaker 2: detail in his notes. So you know, that area of
30:24
Speaker 2: Long Island, and I don't know exactly where the side
30:27
Speaker 2: brinks were, but Long Island is not you know, inoculated
30:30
Speaker 2: from high strangeness in any way, and the strange phone
30:34
Speaker 2: call phenomena is not you know, that unusual for people
30:37
Speaker 2: that have had encounters of high strangeness. So that's that's
30:42
Speaker 2: a good you know, the linking the two you know
30:44
Speaker 2: phenomena that the strange phone calls and the UFO siding
30:47
Speaker 2: there at UH in West Virginia, does you know, does
30:50
Speaker 2: make sense.
30:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:54
Speaker 1: I also don't know if Gary's father is trying to
30:58
Speaker 1: connect because it doesn't seem like the void wants to
31:00
Speaker 1: talk to Gary's father or to Gary's mother, which I'm
31:05
Speaker 1: assuming that it's his mother, but it might not be
31:07
Speaker 1: his mom that was on the first recording, but I'm
31:10
Speaker 1: guessing that it's his mom. They seem to not be
31:13
Speaker 1: interested in talking with either of them. The only thing
31:16
Speaker 1: that the voice we'll say to those two is like,
31:19
Speaker 1: is this Gary subbrink or is Gary Subbrink there? So
31:23
Speaker 1: it really only wants to communicate with Gary, and it
31:27
Speaker 1: might not have I mean, it's interesting about the UFO
31:31
Speaker 1: experience that they had, but it might not even be
31:34
Speaker 1: connected whatsoever at all, and it might be only for Gary,
31:38
Speaker 1: like keep your eyes to the skies near Oryan the
31:42
Speaker 1: full moon, which I think that in the third call
31:46
Speaker 1: he mentions that there is going to be a full
31:48
Speaker 1: moon either that night or the next night.
31:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, and looking at my notes here in the transcript,
31:56
Speaker 2: is all number one lasted three minutes and six seconds.
32:01
Speaker 5: Uh.
32:02
Speaker 2: Call number two, which we just listened to, is three
32:05
Speaker 2: minutes and forty seconds, and they call three, which I
32:08
Speaker 2: imagine we're going to hear in a little bit is
32:10
Speaker 2: three minutes and thirty three seconds. So about three and
32:13
Speaker 2: a half minutes seems to be the length of time
32:18
Speaker 2: that whatever or whoever this caller is can actually function,
32:22
Speaker 2: and then for whatever reason they terminate the communications of
32:26
Speaker 2: the phone call. So and I'm you know, while we're listening,
32:31
Speaker 2: Uh that call number four is three minutes and fifty
32:34
Speaker 2: five seconds, So you know, between three thirty three fifty
32:38
Speaker 2: seems to be the maximum that uh, you know that
32:41
Speaker 2: this entity or this person or this hoaster or whatever
32:44
Speaker 2: you want to call it can communicate.
32:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one of the other things is, you know,
32:49
Speaker 1: they think that maybe it's you know, that it's his
32:54
Speaker 1: brother Stephen, but I think after the they think that
32:58
Speaker 1: it's his brother Stephen in the first call, and then
33:00
Speaker 1: after the other two calls, they're kind of like, I
33:03
Speaker 1: don't think this is I don't think this is Steven anymore.
33:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think even the mom on one of
33:11
Speaker 2: the phone call comes in and says that's not Stephen,
33:13
Speaker 2: that is not or maybe it's the father saying that
33:15
Speaker 2: is not Stephen.
33:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:19
Speaker 1: It's uh. In connecting the UFO sighting as well, and
33:26
Speaker 1: supposedly in West Virginia. We don't have too much information
33:31
Speaker 1: about that, but someone asked, how did these people obtain
33:34
Speaker 1: this recording. Well, I found this on the channel Bedtime
33:38
Speaker 1: Stories and Trey. You can correct me if I'm wrong,
33:42
Speaker 1: but I think that they didn't release these for a
33:46
Speaker 1: really long time, like they sat on them for a while.
33:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were recorded, you know. Back in that time,
33:54
Speaker 2: a lot of us had and once again I hate
33:56
Speaker 2: to show my age, is we had actual cassette voice recorders,
34:02
Speaker 2: you know, answering machines, and one of the functions you
34:04
Speaker 2: could do is you could hit record. There was a
34:06
Speaker 2: button and it would record, you know, what you were
34:10
Speaker 2: saying and what the other person was saying on the line. So,
34:15
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, they decided to hit record, you know
34:18
Speaker 2: when these phone calls came in, and that's why we
34:20
Speaker 2: have these audio tapes today.
34:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't. I don't believe that they wanted
34:27
Speaker 1: any type of fame or anything, because I don't think
34:29
Speaker 1: that they were. They weren't released for a really long time.
34:32
Speaker 1: I think it was like, I don't know, fifteen twenty
34:35
Speaker 1: years after it happened that they were released.
34:38
Speaker 2: You know. And keep in mind, suprinc In the military
34:41
Speaker 2: was a pharmacist, you know, which is a highly technical
34:46
Speaker 2: position requiring a high degree of trust because literally, your
34:52
Speaker 2: pharmacist has your life in his or her hands, you know.
34:56
Speaker 2: So you know, it wouldn't make sense for you know,
34:58
Speaker 2: Suebrink to be in on any kind of shenanigans because
35:02
Speaker 2: it would just throw into question his reliability, trustworthiness, you know,
35:06
Speaker 2: and otherwise and ability to do the job. And then
35:09
Speaker 2: once he gets out of the military, from what little
35:11
Speaker 2: bit I did of research on him, is he continues
35:13
Speaker 2: to be a pharmacist, which when you're practicing in the
35:16
Speaker 2: civilian or requires a license, a licensure from the state
35:20
Speaker 2: pharmacy board and wherever you're practicing. And I think he
35:22
Speaker 2: eventually went to Massachusetts in practice for a while there.
35:26
Speaker 2: So you know, it would not be in Gary's best
35:29
Speaker 2: interest to be involved in anything that showed any impropriety
35:35
Speaker 2: or any lack of seriousness, and certainly would not be
35:38
Speaker 2: in his best interest to show any anything that seemed
35:42
Speaker 2: deceptive or dishonest. So that's another layer of credibility, you know,
35:46
Speaker 2: in my personal opinion that I lay on top of,
35:48
Speaker 2: at least from Gary's perspective, lay on the top of this.
35:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I mean there's a lot of things
35:54
Speaker 1: that we've mentioned so far that lens a version of
35:59
Speaker 1: credible to the to the calls and what this is?
36:04
Speaker 1: I mean in the in the third call, it seems
36:07
Speaker 1: more of like like some kind of like warning and
36:14
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's just listen to the third call
36:16
Speaker 1: and we'll discuss after the third.
36:20
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, have taken time from the tour. Who is this?
36:31
Speaker 4: Stephen?
36:31
Speaker 5: You're this is not funny, you know, Brian, it's not Stephen.
36:37
Speaker 4: What do you mean, Brian?
36:38
Speaker 5: I mean, how do I know it's not Stephen? It's
36:41
Speaker 5: not Stephen?
36:43
Speaker 3: Hello.
36:45
Speaker 6: I had a UFO experience in West Virginia, which you
36:49
Speaker 6: probably know. And I know that you're into an anticalactic person.
36:57
Speaker 6: Can you speak a little louder?
37:01
Speaker 3: Sir? Can you speak a little louder louder? Let me
37:07
Speaker 3: speak to him that I guess I don't know. All right,
37:09
Speaker 3: I'll hang up so you can talk. And he wants
37:11
Speaker 3: to talk to you.
37:12
Speaker 5: Okay, Hello, can I help you?
37:16
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, yes, that's me.
37:29
Speaker 5: Yes, could you please identify yourself?
37:39
Speaker 4: Identify?
37:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm back.
37:43
Speaker 3: I'm in Texas right now.
37:46
Speaker 5: Oh, he asked me a good question. Now, I'm in
37:50
Speaker 5: New York right now.
37:51
Speaker 3: You know that.
37:51
Speaker 5: Why are you asking me such a question?
37:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, m.
38:05
Speaker 5: Yes, Steven As, this is you. I swear to God,
38:08
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be pissed. Huh, I'm trying to listen to him.
38:14
Speaker 5: Who excuse me? Okay, eventually I'll be back from Texas. Uh,
38:28
Speaker 5: could you speak more? Please speak more. I guess it's
38:39
Speaker 5: not Stephen. I believe it because I'm getting static three times. Well,
38:43
Speaker 5: let me go on this phone because I can never
38:44
Speaker 5: hear on this phone.
38:48
Speaker 3: Hold on, okay, okay, please speak hello story, Okay? Should
39:04
Speaker 3: I go out right now? Right now?
39:11
Speaker 4: Before?
39:13
Speaker 3: Okay, see, I'm not sure where Ryan is now, but
39:16
Speaker 3: we'll go outside.
39:21
Speaker 4: Sure, trouble.
39:25
Speaker 3: It was showed double from me. Retreat that again.
39:33
Speaker 1: Okay, So that was the third one. Gary, the entity
39:49
Speaker 1: or the whatever it is on the other side of
39:51
Speaker 1: the line, does not want to talk to Gary's father
39:54
Speaker 1: or Gary's mother. It only wants to communicate with him,
39:58
Speaker 1: And I find that interesting. Do you think about this
40:01
Speaker 1: third phone call? You're muted.
40:08
Speaker 2: Here we go, sorry about that. Uh, you know it's
40:10
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more of the same, but we
40:13
Speaker 2: we see this insistence like you talked about, is wanting
40:16
Speaker 2: only to talk to Gary. You know, you would think
40:20
Speaker 2: that the the the whole West Virginia UFO thing would be,
40:23
Speaker 2: you know, just right for further you know, discourse, but
40:26
Speaker 2: it didn't want any of it. It wanted only to
40:28
Speaker 2: speak to Gary Sudbrink. And once again the same theme
40:31
Speaker 2: keeps repeating itself. Eye on the skies, full moon, you know,
40:37
Speaker 2: and is this Gary Sudbrink And then a almost pathological
40:42
Speaker 2: fixation on are you back from Texas? You know, are
40:45
Speaker 2: you back from Texas? Wanting to actually, you know, pinpoint
40:48
Speaker 2: his whereabouts? So uh And it seemed like on this
40:52
Speaker 2: particular call, whatever it was, was really having a hard
40:56
Speaker 2: time communicating. It seemed very muted, uh like it was
41:01
Speaker 2: almost straining to keep that connection you know, open, you know,
41:05
Speaker 2: with uh, with Gary. And it seemed like it was uh,
41:09
Speaker 2: you know, really having to expend some energy to uh,
41:14
Speaker 2: you know, to talk. And then once again we saw
41:17
Speaker 2: the theme of a show double from you, which is
41:20
Speaker 2: a little bit different phraseology, and that goes back to
41:24
Speaker 2: the lack of maybe understanding English syntax, you know, but
41:28
Speaker 2: trying to communicate that there is a double that you
41:30
Speaker 2: need to show or be aware of.
41:34
Speaker 1: Was there a fourth call, like in my yes, there
41:37
Speaker 1: was a fourth one.
41:38
Speaker 2: There was a fourth call that was actually the next day, uh,
41:42
Speaker 2: and it lasted three minutes and fifty five seconds, so,
41:45
Speaker 2: like I said, between three and a half minutes of
41:47
Speaker 2: three minutes fifty fifty five ish seconds. And this one
41:53
Speaker 2: was was on Tuesday, February the ninth, nineteen ninety three,
41:57
Speaker 2: and was at ten twenty one pm. So that's uh,
42:01
Speaker 2: you know, twenty one hours, you know. Military.
42:06
Speaker 4: Yeah.
42:06
Speaker 1: I didn't get that one. Oh man, that sucks. I
42:11
Speaker 1: mean I had remembered that it was talking about that.
42:15
Speaker 1: The voice was saying, we would like to were it
42:18
Speaker 1: was government. Yeah, that's what it was.
42:20
Speaker 2: I've got the I've got the transcript here. If you
42:23
Speaker 2: want me to read the transcript, Yeah, if you read it, Yeah,
42:26
Speaker 2: voice with more reverb and echo. Is Gary should Brink there?
42:30
Speaker 3: Gary?
42:31
Speaker 2: Yes, it's me. Can I speak to you? Can I
42:33
Speaker 2: ask why is Gary Sudbrink there?
42:36
Speaker 5: Yes?
42:36
Speaker 2: Can I ask why you're calling? Followed by some static? Gary?
42:40
Speaker 2: Can I please ask? Voice? Is this Gary should Brink? Yes?
42:45
Speaker 2: This is Gary Sudbrink. Yes, that's me. We come to
42:50
Speaker 2: be within this planet. Say that again? In this planet.
42:55
Speaker 2: Leave this Gary voice, We come, Gary, I'm standing right here.
43:01
Speaker 2: Voice to be within this planet, Gary, is this a
43:06
Speaker 2: joke or what. Then you hear like a strange kind
43:09
Speaker 2: of a whirring sound, like some sort of turbine spinning
43:13
Speaker 2: up or something. Voice to visit the many to be
43:17
Speaker 2: contacted as the same with you. Once again, that strange
43:22
Speaker 2: halting syntax is there, Gary, I have to think about that.
43:28
Speaker 2: I'd like to see you. Voice to visit the many
43:33
Speaker 2: to be contacted as the same with you. Then his uncle,
43:39
Speaker 2: who actually had the experience with Gary's dad in West Virginia,
43:42
Speaker 2: was there, and you can hear him say, hey, let
43:44
Speaker 2: me tell you something. I've been listening to you and
43:47
Speaker 2: I've had contacts with you. So it's Gary's uncle actually
43:51
Speaker 2: kind of indicating that maybe he had had some sort
43:54
Speaker 2: of close encounter of the third time or some sort
43:57
Speaker 2: of interaction previously with the others or the other nests.
44:02
Speaker 2: And then the voice says very faintly you, and Gary
44:06
Speaker 2: says you have, Oh, I'm sorry, okay. After Gary's uncle
44:14
Speaker 2: says let me you know I've had contact with the
44:16
Speaker 2: voice says beware government interference. And then Gary goes government
44:23
Speaker 2: interference and the voice says you and Gary says you have,
44:28
Speaker 2: Please explain what type of interference. The voice says, beware, okay,
44:34
Speaker 2: government interference visitations to be disrupted by them. Then the
44:41
Speaker 2: voice continues, very faintly, appears the sun will rise on
44:47
Speaker 2: dark side of moon world. No, the uncle says, the
44:53
Speaker 2: sun will rise, and the voice makes some sort of
44:56
Speaker 2: low murmuring. The uncle says, on the dark side of
44:59
Speaker 2: the moon, and Gary says, oh okay. The voice, very low,
45:04
Speaker 2: very faint, says on the moon. Gary says, what branch
45:08
Speaker 2: of government? And then the voice, very low, once again
45:12
Speaker 2: like it's running out of energy, says, show double from you.
45:17
Speaker 2: Gary says, what what should I do? The voice says,
45:21
Speaker 2: beware government interference visitations to be disrupted by them, and
45:27
Speaker 2: then the call hangs up.
45:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really weird one. I found it here.
45:34
Speaker 1: We're actually going to listen to it as well. Oh great, Yeah,
45:38
Speaker 1: I'm just going straight from their YouTube channel on the
45:41
Speaker 1: sub bring phone calls on Bedtime Stories YouTube channel.
45:50
Speaker 3: Yes, this is me. Can I speak to you? Okay? Yes?
46:00
Speaker 3: Can I ask why you're calling? Can I please have Yes?
46:10
Speaker 3: This is yes, that is me. Say it again?
46:31
Speaker 4: This plan.
46:34
Speaker 3: Please, I'm staying right here? Is this a joke?
46:48
Speaker 1: At that was a strange sound. Yeah, that's what you
47:01
Speaker 1: were talking about. Turbine sounds Yeah, like what people expected
47:09
Speaker 1: what a UFO hovering would sound like, right, the classic
47:13
Speaker 1: hoverings on.
47:13
Speaker 2: The Yeah, like in War of the Worlds when they
47:18
Speaker 2: come up out of the you know, the pit and
47:20
Speaker 2: are looking around it.
47:20
Speaker 4: Whoa yeah, big contact.
47:31
Speaker 3: Same.
47:43
Speaker 5: I have to think about that.
47:45
Speaker 1: There it is again the second time.
47:51
Speaker 3: I'd like to see you.
47:55
Speaker 7: Contact kind of the same. Good to you.
48:02
Speaker 3: Hey, let me tell you something.
48:05
Speaker 5: I've been listening to you.
48:08
Speaker 3: And I've had contacts with you.
48:15
Speaker 7: Go interference.
48:19
Speaker 5: Of them interference you have please explain what type of interference?
48:32
Speaker 1: Did you hear it again in the background that time too? Yeah,
48:36
Speaker 1: that's strange.
48:42
Speaker 7: Okay, interferences is to be disrupted by the let's talk over.
49:02
Speaker 4: Dark side of.
49:07
Speaker 3: Or no, if someone rise on the dark side of
49:13
Speaker 3: the moon? Okay, what branch of the government?
49:30
Speaker 5: What what?
49:38
Speaker 4: Uh?
49:38
Speaker 5: What should I do?
49:47
Speaker 7: May erents? Visitation has to be disrupted or okay?
50:03
Speaker 3: Is that good for me or bad? They hold up?
50:09
Speaker 1: Get Yeah, So that was the fourth and final phone call. Sorry,
50:15
Speaker 1: I'd completely blinked on that one, should have had it
50:19
Speaker 1: already cut out there. But yeah, government interference. That was
50:25
Speaker 1: a really interesting thing. Now, what's weird is that this
50:31
Speaker 1: is the fourth and final call. This is the only
50:37
Speaker 1: time that it seems like that they are like the
50:41
Speaker 1: voice on the other end of the line is kind
50:44
Speaker 1: of confirming that they are an extraterrestrial force, an alien
50:49
Speaker 1: or some kind of other entity. But Gary, well mainly
50:56
Speaker 1: his dad has kind of placed that on the from
51:00
Speaker 1: the very first call. So it could be in some
51:04
Speaker 1: way that if it is a prankster or someone pranking them,
51:09
Speaker 1: they're just changing up their thing to fit what they
51:13
Speaker 1: already believe that it is.
51:16
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, yeah, basically parroting what they say.
51:18
Speaker 2: But another thing I've found odd, you know, along with
51:22
Speaker 2: the almost same amount of time you know of the transcription,
51:28
Speaker 2: you know, three and a half minutes of three fifty
51:31
Speaker 2: is the number of phrases per communication. Is the first
51:36
Speaker 2: one with fifteen instances of the voice, sixteen in the second,
51:42
Speaker 2: fifteen in the third, and seventeen in the fourth, So
51:46
Speaker 2: you're between fifteen and seventeen actual lines of the voice
51:53
Speaker 2: per call. So there's like a very distinct pattern not
51:57
Speaker 2: only for time, but the number of times the voice
51:59
Speaker 2: speaks in each call. And now what that what you
52:04
Speaker 2: know significance of that, I have no idea, but it's, uh,
52:07
Speaker 2: you know, it's very strange that they are these patterns
52:10
Speaker 2: that seems like they can only communicate for a certain
52:13
Speaker 2: period of time and only communicate a certain number of
52:16
Speaker 2: times per call.
52:19
Speaker 1: Then it ends the call because it's ran out of
52:22
Speaker 1: juice for that amount of time. Or maybe it could
52:25
Speaker 1: be some kind of time limit that someone can track
52:31
Speaker 1: the call, because I know, like back in back in
52:35
Speaker 1: the day, for someone to be able to track the call,
52:39
Speaker 1: they had to have them on the phone for a
52:41
Speaker 1: certain amount of time. Like if CIA or the FBI
52:46
Speaker 1: or whatever police force or whatever was trying to track
52:49
Speaker 1: a call, they had to be on the line for
52:52
Speaker 1: a certain period of time.
52:54
Speaker 2: And I think that had to do with tracking, backtracking
52:56
Speaker 2: the number of analog switches through all the various switching
52:59
Speaker 2: states back to the original you know area, and then
53:04
Speaker 2: the actual number. I think that's how that worked.
53:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it could be that, or it could be
53:11
Speaker 1: that this is the only amount of time that the
53:14
Speaker 1: juice and the boundary that's letting this voice talk for
53:19
Speaker 1: is a specific amount of time, and then it has
53:21
Speaker 1: to call back. And then another thing that spin beings
53:25
Speaker 1: just brought up was the dark side of the moon.
53:28
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, the sun will rise
53:31
Speaker 1: on the dark side of the moon. I don't really
53:33
Speaker 1: understand how that's relevant to the conversation that he's having
53:38
Speaker 1: with Gary, other than the previous conversation when they were
53:42
Speaker 1: talking about keep your eyes on the skies near O'Ryan.
53:46
Speaker 1: And then also in this call is we were like,
53:51
Speaker 1: we're it's essentially same. We would like to be like
53:55
Speaker 1: contacted just as much as like you would like to
53:58
Speaker 1: be contacted.
53:58
Speaker 3: Which is.
54:00
Speaker 1: Interesting, and it's odd.
54:04
Speaker 2: Bet has stopped right here. You know, to my knowledge,
54:07
Speaker 2: there's no further contact, there's no further phone calls. It
54:10
Speaker 2: just sort of ends right there. Now. You know, I've
54:14
Speaker 2: I've pulled practical jokes on people, and you know, once
54:17
Speaker 2: you get the hook set, half of the fun ist
54:19
Speaker 2: seeing how long you can string you know, your your
54:22
Speaker 2: poor victim along. So if this was a practical joke,
54:26
Speaker 2: I would think that I would want to continue, you know,
54:29
Speaker 2: continue doing this. And if this was a harassment campaign,
54:34
Speaker 2: you know, by somebody just screwing with the super brinks,
54:37
Speaker 2: why would you only make you know, three phone calls
54:39
Speaker 2: in one night and then one phone call the next
54:42
Speaker 2: night and stop. Why wouldn't you randomize it, you know,
54:45
Speaker 2: every third week do three phone calls, and then wait
54:49
Speaker 2: two weeks and do one and then you know, to
54:52
Speaker 2: keep them you know, unnerved, you know, why would it
54:54
Speaker 2: stop just then? So it just doesn't really follow, you know,
54:58
Speaker 2: the pattern of you know, of harassment and something else
55:03
Speaker 2: is if you could tell and I'm not casting aspursions,
55:06
Speaker 2: you don't hear what I'm not saying, but the Soupbren
55:09
Speaker 2: family have very distinctive New England, specifically New York accents,
55:15
Speaker 2: you know, very distinctive Long Island accents. And the voice
55:19
Speaker 2: uh has a very bland you know, almost a Midwestern
55:25
Speaker 2: accent or lack thereof an accent. You know, it's very
55:29
Speaker 2: the tonality is very bland, you know, the the syntax
55:33
Speaker 2: is very bland, the nunciation is very bland. So if
55:37
Speaker 2: it was somebody screwing around with Gary from you know,
55:40
Speaker 2: the Long Island area, you would think that likewise that
55:42
Speaker 2: you could detect a tiny bit perhaps of a Long
55:46
Speaker 2: Island accent, but you know, I could hear none.
55:49
Speaker 1: It's almost like an electronic style voice that is like
55:54
Speaker 1: mixed with like yeah, your what your meaning like a
55:58
Speaker 1: sort of like a not fully complete style of accent. Yeah,
56:05
Speaker 1: it's really strange. It's really weird, and I didn't really
56:09
Speaker 1: know what to think about this. I mean, the consensus
56:13
Speaker 1: that I found on it from you know, skeptics is
56:15
Speaker 1: that it's like, it's that it's a prank. That is
56:18
Speaker 1: a prank. Call is from his brother Steven or one
56:22
Speaker 1: of his friends. But that doesn't really make a lot
56:27
Speaker 1: of sense either. Like the whole point of a prank
56:33
Speaker 1: is to let people know at some point that it's
56:36
Speaker 1: a prank, right, right. If I were to like prank you,
56:42
Speaker 1: and I was to do something, then eventually I'm going
56:46
Speaker 1: to tell you a trey when Yeah, yeah, the whole
56:53
Speaker 1: point of it being a prank is that you let
56:55
Speaker 1: somebody know later on that it's a prank.
56:57
Speaker 2: It's like I pulled a prank on a big Foot
56:59
Speaker 2: ex edition of Probably kind of Naughty.
57:02
Speaker 3: As I was in.
57:03
Speaker 2: Florida and we had a pile behind our latrine where
57:07
Speaker 2: we dug the hole and I found a cowbone, you know,
57:10
Speaker 2: big cowbone, and I stuck it straight up in that
57:12
Speaker 2: pile of dirt behind a latrine and people are like, oh,
57:16
Speaker 2: you know, Bigfoot's leaving a signal and it's a sign
57:18
Speaker 2: and all of that, and I just sat back.
57:20
Speaker 3: And let it go for a while, you know.
57:21
Speaker 2: Then eventually I fessed up and I'm like, yeah, you know,
57:23
Speaker 2: I got you all. You know, everybody was, you know,
57:26
Speaker 2: so excited about the bone and the shit dirt, you know, uh,
57:30
Speaker 2: you know.
57:30
Speaker 3: I just had to let it go.
57:32
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, you're right.
57:33
Speaker 3: You have.
57:33
Speaker 2: The fun is seeing how far you can go and
57:35
Speaker 2: then you know, basically outing yourself and uh, you know,
57:40
Speaker 2: watching the people's reactions, you know, as they sheepestly, you know,
57:44
Speaker 2: admit that you know they were in fact full, but uh,
57:49
Speaker 2: I am looking here for some of the things that
57:51
Speaker 2: I had a really weird almost you know, intuition. Is
57:58
Speaker 2: when they were talking about, you know, the dark side
58:03
Speaker 2: of the moon. The sun will rise on the dark
58:06
Speaker 2: side of the moon. Watch O'Ryan. We come to be
58:09
Speaker 2: within this planet to visit the many to be contacted
58:13
Speaker 2: as were the same. I got this really weird feeling
58:18
Speaker 2: that made me think of the Toinbe tiles. And I
58:21
Speaker 2: don't know if you're familiar with those. That's another very
58:23
Speaker 2: bizarre story. The toybe tiles started in nineteen eighty three
58:28
Speaker 2: in Baltimore, and they basically were linoleum tiles that were
58:34
Speaker 2: laid on the street and were pressed into the asphalt.
58:39
Speaker 2: And they said toynbe idea in movie two thousand and
58:43
Speaker 2: one resurrect dead on planet Jupiter. And there was a
58:49
Speaker 2: fellow by the name of Arnold J. Toynbee. And I'm
58:55
Speaker 2: trying to remember this from memory. Is he believed that
59:00
Speaker 2: the dead could be resurrected if they were sent to
59:03
Speaker 2: the moon, are sent to Jupiter. And that was kind
59:07
Speaker 2: of about, you know what the movie two thousand and one,
59:09
Speaker 2: as space out as he was is the resurrection of uh,
59:11
Speaker 2: you know, human consciousness, you know, own Jupiter. Uh So,
59:15
Speaker 2: for some reason, I got this weird, weird twin Bee
59:18
Speaker 2: tile kind of vibe from you know that that particular exchange.
59:24
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look into that. I've never heard
59:26
Speaker 1: of that. I've never heard of the twin be tile.
59:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a weird story. They
59:32
Speaker 2: have eventually popped up all over the world and I
59:33
Speaker 2: think they've eventually died all Mmm, No, I can see
59:42
Speaker 2: the wheels turning.
59:46
Speaker 1: Yes, that's really interesting. M So, but then how does
59:52
Speaker 1: that relate to what the supposed alien or extraterrestrial was
59:58
Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, doesn't have any connection to this
1:00:01
Speaker 1: doppelganger stuff.
1:00:02
Speaker 2: Like, not directly. I just kind of picked up a gestalt,
1:00:06
Speaker 2: you know, in my own mind. It kind of reminded
1:00:08
Speaker 2: me of the toy Bee tiles.
1:00:10
Speaker 6: Uh.
1:00:10
Speaker 2: But you know, the emphasis on the dark side of
1:00:12
Speaker 2: the moon made me also remember the you know in
1:00:15
Speaker 2: the movie in the book You two thousand and one
1:00:17
Speaker 2: in Space Odyssey by Arthur Clark, is the finding and
1:00:20
Speaker 2: discovery of the monolith on the moon, you know, which
1:00:26
Speaker 2: was you know, basically the the the big switch that
1:00:30
Speaker 2: was turned on to allow the communication with the others
1:00:33
Speaker 2: you know later on in the movie you know, which
1:00:36
Speaker 2: brought apart, you know, brought about a whole new uh
1:00:39
Speaker 2: understanding of our place in the universe later on in
1:00:41
Speaker 2: the film.
1:00:46
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, that's really strange.
1:00:51
Speaker 2: But since yeah, uh, but before I forget, I had
1:00:54
Speaker 2: one of these phone calls similar to this, and I
1:00:57
Speaker 2: just want to throw it out there. Before I forget
1:01:00
Speaker 2: is I had just started doing a lot of work
1:01:02
Speaker 2: and instrumental transcommunications, specifically using allophones, which are the individual
1:01:09
Speaker 2: segments of human language of all language, and I had
1:01:13
Speaker 2: a allophone generator that would randomly generate these tones, and
1:01:19
Speaker 2: I would ask questions and then randomly generate these tones
1:01:22
Speaker 2: to see if I could get a response. And I
1:01:24
Speaker 2: had some luck with that. And so by the time
1:01:27
Speaker 2: I was doing these experiments, it was about probably about
1:01:31
Speaker 2: one o'clock at night, and we still this was back
1:01:34
Speaker 2: in the probably about two thousand and seven is we
1:01:39
Speaker 2: still had landline phones. And the phone rang and I
1:01:43
Speaker 2: picked it up, and on the other end there was
1:01:45
Speaker 2: a mechanical synthetic voice and the only thing the voice
1:01:50
Speaker 2: said was gates of Hell and said nothing else and
1:01:56
Speaker 2: then hung up. But it was that still, like I
1:02:00
Speaker 2: said this, you know, when I hear these, uh you know,
1:02:02
Speaker 2: these should bring U tapes, it kind of gives me
1:02:06
Speaker 2: a shiver because it was very similar to the voice
1:02:08
Speaker 2: I heard.
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Did you have that recorded?
1:02:12
Speaker 2: Oh?
1:02:12
Speaker 3: I did not, you know, I was.
1:02:13
Speaker 2: I was doing good to kind of figure out who,
1:02:15
Speaker 2: who or what I was, you know, at one o'clock
1:02:17
Speaker 2: in the morning, because you know the old ad age,
1:02:20
Speaker 2: you know, phone calls at night are usually bad news,
1:02:23
Speaker 2: you know, so you know, that was kind of the
1:02:25
Speaker 2: first thing that popped through my mind is, oh my god,
1:02:27
Speaker 2: you know what's happened? You know, somebody ill andjured, hurt
1:02:30
Speaker 2: or whatever. And that was absolutely the last thing I
1:02:33
Speaker 2: expected to hear was a mechanical voice saying gates of hell,
1:02:37
Speaker 2: especially after I just started doing more UH research and
1:02:40
Speaker 2: experimentation into instrumental transcommunication.
1:02:47
Speaker 5: MM.
1:02:50
Speaker 1: So to UH to wrap this up, Tray, what what
1:02:53
Speaker 1: is your consensus on these UH suid Brink phone calls?
1:02:58
Speaker 1: These things that they're real? Do you think that they're legitimate?
1:03:01
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're faked? Do you think that
1:03:03
Speaker 1: they were a prank or was it a combination of
1:03:06
Speaker 1: the two.
1:03:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's kind of like when you
1:03:10
Speaker 2: look at a UFO and it's an unidentified flying object
1:03:13
Speaker 2: because something you know, we can't identify. I think it's
1:03:15
Speaker 2: the same thing with these. I do not think Gary
1:03:18
Speaker 2: Sudbrink was in on the if it was a prank,
1:03:21
Speaker 2: let me back up. I don't think Gary Sudebrink had
1:03:23
Speaker 2: anything to do with the generation or transmitting of these
1:03:28
Speaker 2: phone calls. I think he was literally just somebody that
1:03:31
Speaker 2: picked up the phone and there it was. I don't
1:03:33
Speaker 2: think the Sudebrink family was part of it. The fact
1:03:38
Speaker 2: that whoever or whatever it was, knew that he was
1:03:42
Speaker 2: in Long Island when he never notified anybody, when he
1:03:46
Speaker 2: just had a four day pass and decided to zip
1:03:48
Speaker 2: up there real quick and see his family, I find
1:03:49
Speaker 2: very interesting. So that makes me think it would not
1:03:52
Speaker 2: be anybody from San Antonio that he worked with, because
1:03:55
Speaker 2: they would know where he was.
1:03:57
Speaker 3: He just was.
1:03:59
Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't at work that weekend, that four
1:04:01
Speaker 2: day weekend, and you know they didn't know where he was.
1:04:04
Speaker 3: So what is it?
1:04:06
Speaker 2: You know, you tie this in with the doppelganger. You
1:04:09
Speaker 2: know that Gary's brother Steven saw you know, prior to
1:04:12
Speaker 2: the wedding and and your previous and then with his
1:04:16
Speaker 2: friend Mike receiving the phone call from another Gary, and
1:04:21
Speaker 2: then you tie it in with very typical men in
1:04:26
Speaker 2: black kind of encounters. You know, the person at the
1:04:31
Speaker 2: airline gate asking him all these questions, putting him at
1:04:35
Speaker 2: ill ease, writing down his responses, you know, in a notebook,
1:04:41
Speaker 2: and the Offman prophecies there's Keel talks about some men
1:04:45
Speaker 2: in black actually literally having spiral bound notebooks like Gary's
1:04:49
Speaker 2: interrogator did at the airport, and then having this another
1:04:52
Speaker 2: interrogator sit next to him without authorization, but sit you know,
1:04:58
Speaker 2: next to him on the airplane and start asking some
1:05:01
Speaker 2: of the same similar questions. So you take all of
1:05:04
Speaker 2: this in a whole. I think it's a phone call
1:05:06
Speaker 2: from somewhere else that might not be where we are
1:05:10
Speaker 2: at currently, you know, somewhere else in the universe.
1:05:15
Speaker 1: Very well could be. It's a very interesting call. And
1:05:17
Speaker 1: I have to agree with with your analysis. And for one,
1:05:23
Speaker 1: we found one time, we found one there that we
1:05:26
Speaker 1: couldn't really explain. I think it truly is kind of unexplained.
1:05:30
Speaker 1: I have to try and look into some more of
1:05:32
Speaker 1: these these cases and the mysterious phone call cases, and
1:05:39
Speaker 1: look more into Long Island and exactly what all was
1:05:42
Speaker 1: going on there, because this is this is really fascinating
1:05:46
Speaker 1: to me. I think it's super interesting.
1:05:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, it's a phenomenon that's been
1:05:51
Speaker 2: you know, going on at least in the paranormal world,
1:05:54
Speaker 2: you know, phone calls from the dead, and it's it's
1:05:56
Speaker 2: even so ingrained in our psyche using instrumentation as things
1:06:00
Speaker 2: called wind phones, which are basically, you know, just phones
1:06:04
Speaker 2: set up in remote locations that aren't hooked up to anything.
1:06:07
Speaker 2: That people that are undergoing grief can pick it up
1:06:09
Speaker 2: and speak to the phone as though they were speaking
1:06:13
Speaker 2: to their departed loved one to help them work through
1:06:15
Speaker 2: the grief. So there's something very very basic, you know,
1:06:19
Speaker 2: very primal about being able to use a piece of
1:06:22
Speaker 2: equipment to speak to the other side, you be that
1:06:25
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial or the afterlife.
1:06:29
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and if people are interested, they can go to
1:06:32
Speaker 1: Bedtime Stories YouTube channel and listen to the full breakdown
1:06:39
Speaker 1: of the suid bring phone Calls has the clips that
1:06:43
Speaker 1: we've shown in here is forty eight minutes and three
1:06:46
Speaker 1: seconds long. If people are interested, and Trey, you gotta
1:06:50
Speaker 1: you're writing a new book. You've been You've been teasing
1:06:53
Speaker 1: this new book for a long time.
1:06:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: I am a I hate to say it, I'm a
1:07:00
Speaker 2: lazy writer, you know, I really have to struggle with it.
1:07:03
Speaker 2: But I have about fifty six thousand words in the can.
1:07:08
Speaker 2: I have sent it to the publisher. He's looking at it.
1:07:11
Speaker 2: I've done the author's proof, so you know, the publisher
1:07:14
Speaker 2: you know, picks it up, which I pretty much said
1:07:16
Speaker 2: he will. The next step is editing and then we
1:07:20
Speaker 2: hope to release it, you know, within the next few
1:07:22
Speaker 2: months and something else And I think I told you
1:07:26
Speaker 2: what this actually is, but I can't go public with it.
1:07:29
Speaker 2: But there's something else really cool, literally right in the shoot,
1:07:33
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm hoping to get something out here
1:07:36
Speaker 2: pretty soon. All that it'll be, uh, it'll be kind
1:07:38
Speaker 2: of cool too.
1:07:39
Speaker 1: Are you on a title at the Meadow? Part two?
1:07:42
Speaker 2: It is Return to the Meadow Further Adventures at the
1:07:45
Speaker 2: South Skinwalker Ranch, And there are some some really cool
1:07:50
Speaker 2: cool things in there.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: I would actually like to get you and Katie Oh
1:07:56
Speaker 1: on the same show sometime soon.
1:07:59
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she uh, she's been to the Meadow and
1:08:01
Speaker 2: I've been out to the Colorado Ranch and uh, yeah,
1:08:04
Speaker 2: we've had some adventures together. Absolutely.
1:08:06
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, talk about that really quickly before I'll let
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Speaker 1: you go. You going out to the Clearview Ranch?
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Speaker 5: What was that like?
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Speaker 2: It was Uh, we didn't have a lot of time
1:08:14
Speaker 2: to spend there. Uh, but we did have a few hours,
1:08:17
Speaker 2: you know, we uh you know, got permission from the
1:08:20
Speaker 2: current owner, and we did go to the actual area
1:08:24
Speaker 2: where it had She talked about the burned off area
1:08:26
Speaker 2: where nothing would grow. I went to that area. I
1:08:29
Speaker 2: went to the cistern. Uh of first had my photograph
1:08:34
Speaker 2: posing JAUNTI lee at the cistern, and also we went
1:08:37
Speaker 2: to the area where they encountered the box in the woods. Now,
1:08:40
Speaker 2: the kind of cool thing about that box area is,
1:08:44
Speaker 2: as soon as I got there, the the environment felt different.
1:08:48
Speaker 2: And you know, people that have been to areas of
1:08:50
Speaker 2: high strangeness will talk about they'll go to an area
1:08:53
Speaker 2: where this weird stuff has happened in the air fields
1:08:55
Speaker 2: charged you know, that's kind of a the nebulous description,
1:08:59
Speaker 2: but it's you know, it's it's you know, it's kind
1:09:01
Speaker 2: of a rough way of articulating what you feel. The
1:09:04
Speaker 2: air felt different, it felt a little bit more alive
1:09:07
Speaker 2: right there at the location, you know, where she had
1:09:09
Speaker 2: experienced the box when they were out driving in the woods.
1:09:12
Speaker 2: So it is a really cool place. I hope to
1:09:14
Speaker 2: get out there some more in the future and really,
1:09:18
Speaker 2: you know, bring some of my you know, my equipment
1:09:21
Speaker 2: to some of the techniques I used to bear on it.
1:09:24
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I found what she talked about very credible. I
1:09:30
Speaker 1: liked her a lot. She seemed like a very well
1:09:33
Speaker 1: rounded individual and seemed very honest and was open to
1:09:39
Speaker 1: all different kinds of explanations, which was very rare with
1:09:42
Speaker 1: some sort of a lot of experiencers, right, they're not
1:09:45
Speaker 1: really open to what other people have to say that
1:09:48
Speaker 1: it could be. You know, they're more reserved and like
1:09:51
Speaker 1: closed off. They think that whatever it is, that the
1:09:53
Speaker 1: experience was exactly what they experienced, and nine times out
1:09:57
Speaker 1: of ten it's never really what they experience, right, So
1:10:02
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely commender for that. But I'd definitely
1:10:04
Speaker 1: like to have both of you on, let people know
1:10:06
Speaker 1: where they can find you, plug your book that you
1:10:09
Speaker 1: currently have out and let people know.
1:10:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, the current book is back in print, the Meadow
1:10:15
Speaker 2: Project Explorations at the South Skinwalker Ranch as book number one.
1:10:19
Speaker 2: It's currently out. You can find that on Amazon. You know,
1:10:23
Speaker 2: type in Trey Hudson. It comes up in a bunch
1:10:26
Speaker 2: of different languages if you sprickens a Deutsch or whatever.
1:10:29
Speaker 2: And we've got a problem with the copyright on the
1:10:33
Speaker 2: audio books. I'm trying to get that switch figured out
1:10:36
Speaker 2: with lawyers and stuff, so I'm sorry about that. The
1:10:40
Speaker 2: second book will also be launched on Amazon. You can
1:10:43
Speaker 2: find me at Trey Hutson dash author on Facebook and
1:10:46
Speaker 2: Trey Hudson Research dot com is my website and Trahatson
1:10:51
Speaker 2: dot research at gmail dot com is my email address.
1:10:56
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Trey, really appreciate your time. Always fascinating
1:10:59
Speaker 1: and amazing to talk with you about these weird and
1:11:01
Speaker 1: strange things. I'm glad we found one that's kind of
1:11:05
Speaker 1: QUASEI unexplained, but I'm looking forward to the next one
1:11:08
Speaker 1: because I'm sure I'll find some something else really weird
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