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Full Show Podcast: 19 December 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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Speaker 2: Francisca Rudgin on earlier ship with our V Supercenter explore
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Speaker 3: That'd be good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francisca Rudkin,
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Speaker 3: joining you for the final Early edition of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: Good to be with you. You're most welcome to contact
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Speaker 3: me anytime this morning. You can flict me a text
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Speaker 3: on ninety two ninety two. You can email me at
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Speaker 3: Francesca at NEWSTALKVVB dot co dot nz. Coming up on
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Speaker 3: the show today, Gloria Vale Christian School is to close
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Speaker 3: from the twenty sixth of January next year, so what
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Speaker 3: next for the children? We look at why violent behavior
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Speaker 3: in schools is increasing and what we can do about it.
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Speaker 3: And before the end of the hour, Cameron Bagrey is
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Speaker 3: with us on the geddip.
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Speaker 1: Figures the agenda.
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Speaker 3: It's Friday, the nineteenth of December and Anthony Albanesi says
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Speaker 3: Australia well tough and hate speech laws after the deadly
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Speaker 3: Bondi Beach attack on a Jewish festival. He's promising action
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Speaker 3: against those spreading hate and radicalization.
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Speaker 4: The Mestapahome Affairs will also have new powers to cancel
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Speaker 4: or reject visus for those who spread hat and division
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Speaker 4: in this country.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the family has held a funeral for the youngest victim,
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Speaker 3: ten year old Matilda, killed among fifteen.
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Speaker 4: From darkness they struck to where candles glowed bright. A
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Speaker 4: child of celebration was lost to Terah's ninth. Yet in
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Speaker 4: the harshest sorrow, her memory will shine, a beacon of
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Speaker 4: her love for earthly life has gone.
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Speaker 3: A former French anethetist has been jailed for life after
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Speaker 3: poisoning thirty patients, twelve of them died. Frederic Pishier was
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Speaker 3: found to have tampered with ivy bags using lethal chemicals.
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Speaker 5: Patients will be looked after not by him directly, but
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Speaker 5: by fellow and esthetists, and then he was able to
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Speaker 5: intervene in many of them as the kind of savior.
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Speaker 5: He was the first responder when things went wrong and said,
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Speaker 5: I know it's this, this is the here's the antidode.
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Speaker 5: His prestige was boosted, that of his fellows was gravely damaged,
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Speaker 5: and that the prosecution said was his motivation.
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Speaker 3: His victims ranged from a four year old child to
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Speaker 3: an eighty nine year old and finally, Zelenski's urging EU
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Speaker 3: leaders in Brussels to unlock the frozen Russian assets to
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Speaker 3: loan to the Ukraine. Two hundred and ten billion euro
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Speaker 3: was sitting there, most of it in Belgium. Russia's warning
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Speaker 3: them off, but without new money, Ukraine's water chest runs
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Speaker 3: dry within months.
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Speaker 6: If by spring Ukraine does not receive the corresponding tranch that,
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Speaker 6: in case of peace, Ukraine will use for recovery. Ukraine
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Speaker 6: will use this money for first and foremost drone production.
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Speaker 6: If this trunch does not come, Ukraine will have significantly
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Speaker 6: decreased drone production.
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Speaker 3: And that's the agenda. It is nine past five.
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Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Francesca
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Speaker 2: Rudge and are the supercenter the explore? Are these accessories
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Speaker 3: That'd be okay, There could be a bit of a
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Speaker 3: problem if you've done your Christmas shopping with Ikea. They've
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Speaker 3: hit a bit of a hurdle. You know that twenty
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Speaker 3: five thousand people applied for jobs to work there. They
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Speaker 3: initially were going to hire four hundred. They're then up
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Speaker 3: to it to five hundred because they knew it was
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Speaker 3: going to be a busy launch. But something tells me
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Speaker 3: that they maybe should have grabbed a few more students
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Speaker 3: to work over the summer as well, because reports are
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Speaker 3: coming in that people are going to be waiting for
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Speaker 3: up to six weeks to get their orders. And this
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Speaker 3: is because, as you kind of expect, the sales and
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Speaker 3: orders secured over the first few days surpassed the expectation,
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Speaker 3: so they've just been flooded. Basically, they're taking action. They've
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Speaker 3: extended shifts, they're increasing capacity where possible to move things along,
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Speaker 3: but it's got to the point now where they're actually
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Speaker 3: just going to take the phone off the hok So
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Speaker 3: it is IKA is shutting down it's customer supports center
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Speaker 3: from today for the rest of the week, so I
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Speaker 3: presume that's just till Sunday, so it's team can focus
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Speaker 3: on rebook and custom orders and resolving outstanding cases and
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Speaker 3: things like I think click and collect and some delivery
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Speaker 3: services are temporarily unavailable while they kind of catch up.
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Speaker 3: And look, if you're a customer and you'd be waiting,
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Speaker 3: there's a possibility that they're going to be in touch
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Speaker 3: with you on the next day or suddenly know what's
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Speaker 3: going on. Anyway, it's a bit of a mess, right,
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Speaker 3: and it is a shame because it puts a damna
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Speaker 3: on the excitement of Ikea arriving in New Zealand. And
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Speaker 3: if the product is here on the ground, in the warehouses,
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Speaker 3: it really shouldn't be this hard. Gosh. I hope someone
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Speaker 3: warned the Swedish that the New Zealanders love to complain,
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Speaker 3: but look, we should give them some grace and some
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Speaker 3: time to sort it out. I've always said you should
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Speaker 3: never judge a TV show on its first episode, you
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Speaker 3: should never buy first generation tech, you should shouldn't go
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Speaker 3: to a restaurant on opening night. And now I'm adding
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Speaker 3: to the mix that you should never order online from
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Speaker 3: a global retail giant in the first month of its
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Speaker 3: operation in a new country. I mean, there was gonna
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Speaker 3: always you know, there's always teething problems out there. Look,
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Speaker 3: I'm confident they're going to sort it out, but I'm
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Speaker 3: not gonna lie. I have been really amazed at how
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Speaker 3: great other retailers have been getting product to us so
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Speaker 3: close to Christmas. The couriers are working their butts off,
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Speaker 3: but things are arriving in days. I had a parcel
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Speaker 3: arrived from Australia in four days the week before Christmas,
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Speaker 3: unheard of, so everyone else seems to manage to do it.
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Speaker 3: So best of luck. If you're waiting for your Christmas
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Speaker 3: gifts from my care, You're with Early Edition. It's eleven
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Speaker 3: past five.
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Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 2: It's Early ed Ship with Francheska Rudkin and are the
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Speaker 3: That'd be It's five point thirteen. Gloria Vale's School will
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Speaker 3: shut down from January next year. It has failed two
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Speaker 3: Education Review Office audits and in July was found to
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Speaker 3: be physically and emotionally unsafe space for students. Liss Gordon
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Speaker 3: is an educational researcher and she joins me. Now, good morning,
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Speaker 3: Liz Bakona. This has been a long time coming, hasn't it.
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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've been calling for a closure of the
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Speaker 7: school for fifteen years.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So will the children be allowed to be homeschooled
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Speaker 3: or part of Takura or are they losing the ability
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Speaker 3: to do that as well?
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Speaker 7: Well? Everybody has the right to an education in New
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Speaker 7: Zealand and it's up to the Ministry of Education to
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Speaker 7: ensure that they get a different one. But it's more
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Speaker 7: complicated than that too, because these children have been educated
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Speaker 7: for years in fundamental as Christian beliefs. It was a
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Speaker 7: private school and they were taught their own curriculum. They
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Speaker 7: were taught that girls must submit themselves to their husbands,
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Speaker 7: that their only role was to leave school at fifteen
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Speaker 7: and to serve the community, and to serve their husbands
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Speaker 7: and have as many babies as possible. The men were
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Speaker 7: taught that their job was on the farms and to
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Speaker 7: again of the community. There was sexual abuse, there was violence,
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Speaker 7: you know that. They're so so it's not just a
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Speaker 7: matter of continuing their education, having examine place to resolve
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Speaker 7: all the past issues and the and and give these
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Speaker 7: children some human rights and.
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Speaker 3: What so, what is the best outcome for these children.
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Speaker 7: They should go to it. They should go to an
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Speaker 7: ordinary school. But I think, Mike get you see, they
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Speaker 7: Gloria Vale built a big school. It was a private school,
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Speaker 7: so got subsidies from from the tax player for many
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Speaker 7: years and it built out of that a big school
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Speaker 7: which is sitting there on the grounds. And my own
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Speaker 7: view is that the the ministry should in the interim
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Speaker 7: negotiate to put in a group a number of professional teachers,
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Speaker 7: bring them, bring them to the community and have the
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Speaker 7: kids taught there. Now, it's not the ideal situation that
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Speaker 7: the nearest school is all good. Half th requorters are
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Speaker 7: now away. There is another one a bit further away
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Speaker 7: from that. They're both very small schools. I don't think
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Speaker 7: that to kurna education where children get papers through the
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Speaker 7: male is going to cut it. Well, not through the
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Speaker 7: male now it's it's online, But I don't think that's
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Speaker 7: going to cut it. I don't think homeschooling is going
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Speaker 7: to cut it because the parents of those children were
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Speaker 7: also brought up in that ideology and have no other
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Speaker 7: focus for educating them, and so it's just going to
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Speaker 7: continues the abuse of education un less than some sort
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Speaker 7: of interventional So.
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Speaker 3: As the public schools that are around them, would they
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Speaker 3: be resourced well enough to support a transition like this
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Speaker 3: to have these children come from Gloriaville into their schools.
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Speaker 7: So they need new classrooms two hundred and twenty four
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Speaker 7: I believe children, So that's nine or ten classrooms that
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Speaker 7: those classrooms would need to be everything from year one
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Speaker 7: right up to year thirteen, and of course the answer
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Speaker 7: is no. Well, I think it was more from double
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Speaker 7: size of the post of schools. So it's awfully late
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Speaker 7: in the year.
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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
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Speaker 7: Awfully late in the year for two hundred and twenty
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Speaker 7: four abused children to get a decent education in twenty
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Speaker 7: twenty three.
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Speaker 3: And as you point out, very complicated, quite a complex
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Speaker 3: situation to try and fix there. Thank you so much, Liz,
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Speaker 3: really appreciate your thoughts this morning. It's not all roses
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Speaker 3: in our schools either, with teachers having to deal with
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Speaker 3: an increase and violent behavior. We're going to talk about
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Speaker 3: that next. It is seventeen past.
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Speaker 3: It'd be good to have you with us. It's twenty
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Speaker 3: past five, So schools are dealing with more fights and
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Speaker 3: a so than ever before. This year, there've been over
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Speaker 3: twelve thousand incidents of students being stood down, suspended, excluded,
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Speaker 3: or expelled for physical assault on other students and staff.
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Speaker 3: That number has risen forty nine percent in the last
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Speaker 3: six years. PPTA President Chris Abercrombie joins me. Now, good morning, Chris, how.
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Speaker 8: Are you good morning?
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Speaker 1: Good?
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Speaker 3: Thank you, excellent. How widespread is this issue?
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Speaker 8: From my understanding, it's pretty widespread from primary to secondary,
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Speaker 8: and it's you know, it's real concern that these numbers
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Speaker 8: are increasing.
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Speaker 3: The teacher's well trained to handle a violent or difficult situation.
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Speaker 8: Like this increasingly, so there was an element of restraint,
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Speaker 8: restraint course that teachers had to do. It was online.
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Speaker 8: But there's a real concern about the significant unmet need
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Speaker 8: in our schools and this is an expression of that.
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Speaker 3: What is a significant unnet meat unnet unmet need?
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Speaker 8: Well, we know, we know our children come the school
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Speaker 8: with incredibly complex needs, way more complex than when I
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Speaker 8: was at school, and you know, mental health, bed other issues.
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Speaker 8: You know were understanding how brains work a lot better.
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Speaker 8: But we know our schools are under pressure and this
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Speaker 8: is an expression of that.
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Speaker 3: Thanks sure, and Chris. Do we know why there's been
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Speaker 3: an increase over the last six years, of course, which
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Speaker 3: takes us back to just pre COVID.
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Speaker 8: Well, I think again, there's that unmet need. We know
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Speaker 8: our student populations increased significantly. We know we've got feature shortages,
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Speaker 8: we know class sizes are increasing. All of these things
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Speaker 8: just put pressure on the system and you know, and
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Speaker 8: sometimes unfortunately that pressure shows itself in this way with
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Speaker 8: these young people.
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Speaker 3: The government's twenty twenty five budget included seven hundred and
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Speaker 3: forty seven million boost for learning support, which seems pretty substantial.
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Speaker 3: Is that going some way to help I mean, does
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Speaker 3: that get to get more teacher aides and classrooms to
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Speaker 3: help out?
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Speaker 8: Well that for a primary yes, that there will have
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Speaker 8: out that that was specifically a primary focus. There wasn't
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Speaker 8: much for secondary in that and so you know, that's
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Speaker 8: one of the things the minister has said is that
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Speaker 8: this year's budget, well next year's budget sorry, it is
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Speaker 8: going to be a secondary teacher focus or a secondary focus.
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Speaker 8: So we're really hopeful to see that support we need
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Speaker 8: there because you know, no young person decides they're going
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Speaker 8: to come along and you know, get into a fight
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Speaker 8: at school or the teacher or something like that. You know,
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Speaker 8: there's lots going on in these young people's lives and
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Speaker 8: sometimes we need to make sure we can support them.
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Speaker 3: Is that what it's going to take. You need to
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Speaker 3: have sort of two things on the go. Here, maybe
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Speaker 3: a little bit more support in the classroom with a
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Speaker 3: teacher aide, and then more better accessibility to you know,
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Speaker 3: whether it's counselors and psychologists and the people that these
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Speaker 3: children need to help sort their situations out.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, particularly that pastoral care support. Something we've
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Speaker 8: been asking well for a long time because we know
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Speaker 8: this is something that teachers have been saying to us,
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Speaker 8: is that you know, our young people have really, our
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Speaker 8: children have really you know, it's a lot more there's
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Speaker 8: a lot more conflex world than when I was at
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Speaker 8: school in the eighties and nineties, So you know, young
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Speaker 8: people are dealing with a lot of issues that the
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Speaker 8: lot of older people does never never even considered.
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Speaker 3: To stand downs deal with the problem at all.
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Speaker 8: Yes and no, yes and no. So in a sense,
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Speaker 8: you know, often it can be a nice catalyst for
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Speaker 8: a young person. You know, you can get support for them,
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Speaker 8: you can you know, it can bring about change and
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Speaker 8: some but sometimes it's a sort of a cool down
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Speaker 8: period for everyone involved. And unfortunately too. I mean I
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Speaker 8: grew up in a small school area and I taught
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Speaker 8: in single schools and their own school in the community.
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Speaker 8: Sometimes that student has to come back to that school.
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Speaker 8: There's no other choice, there's no other school for them
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Speaker 8: to go to. So sometimes it's just pausing the problem,
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Speaker 8: but sometimes it is also a catalyst to get more support.
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Speaker 3: Chris as always, really appreciate your time this morning. Have
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Speaker 3: a lovely Christmas. Thank you so much. That was PPTA
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Speaker 3: President Chris Abercrombie there. Thanks for your texts as well. Hi, Francesca.
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Speaker 3: Awesome service from Passport office. Submitted my application on Saturday
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Speaker 3: and received my passport by Wednesday lunchtime. Chris, it's incredible.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they're just they're ramping up for the fact that
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Speaker 3: everyone's passports that they all going to haven't got like
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Speaker 3: a million going to expire or something in the next
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Speaker 3: year or something, and they're going to be inundated. They're
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Speaker 3: ready to go. But that is very good news. Thank
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Speaker 3: you for your text You can text anytime. On ninety
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Speaker 3: two ninety two, it's twenty four past five.
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Speaker 3: It's five twenty six. You're early edition. Confirmation that the
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Speaker 3: economy grew strongly in the third quarter of the year
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Speaker 3: is welcome news before Christmas. Finance Minister Nicola Willis stated
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Speaker 3: in the first line of her press release yesterday, welcome
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Speaker 3: news may be a bit of an understatement given the
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Speaker 3: context of recent attempts to undermine Nicola Willis in the
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Speaker 3: government's approach to writing the economy. Willis also needed the
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Speaker 3: good GEDDP news after a disappointing half y economic and
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Speaker 3: fiscal update on Tuesday, in which almost every economic and
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Speaker 3: fiscal indication moved it was so slightly in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 3: The GDP results showed the economy to better than expected
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Speaker 3: in the September quarter, growing one point one percent. GDP
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Speaker 3: per capita ro zero point nine percent for the quarter,
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Speaker 3: if that's how you prefer to measure it. The increase
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Speaker 3: in economic activity was broad based, with increases in fourteen
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Speaker 3: of the sixteen industry that Stats New Zealand looked at,
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Speaker 3: so that this is good news. But the problem with
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Speaker 3: GDP figures is that they're provisional and often revised, and
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Speaker 3: that's what's happened with the previous June quarter, which did
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Speaker 3: worse than previously thought, falling one percent. If you look
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Speaker 3: at it from an annual point of view. From September
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Speaker 3: to September, the economy contracted point five percent. So these
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Speaker 3: numbers provide an overview of what's going on. They are
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Speaker 3: a sign of a gentle uptick rather than a booming recovery,
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Speaker 3: but they don't give politicians a true sense of what's
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Speaker 3: going on in New Zealander's day to day lives. As
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Speaker 3: Liam Dan wrote in The Herald this week, GDP doesn't
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Speaker 3: capture way distribution. It doesn't tell us about the health
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Speaker 3: of our nation or the overall happiness of its people.
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Speaker 3: As the end of the year approaches, Luxeon and Willis
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Speaker 3: survive twenty five to enjoy a summer barbecue in a
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Speaker 3: Bevy or two and get to return to their leadership
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Speaker 3: roles in twenty twenty six. But hopefully they and their
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Speaker 3: political colleagues will spend some time over the summer listening
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Speaker 3: to ordinary Kiwis to get a sense of how New
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Speaker 3: Zealanders feel about the cost of living, job security, and
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Speaker 3: the challenges facing those running a business. Yesterday's GDP figures
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Speaker 3: give Willis breathing room, but the pressure is on next year.
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Speaker 3: Willis is excellent at sticking to her core messaging of
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Speaker 3: fiscal discipline without causing misery to voters. It's a plan
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Speaker 3: that holds some risk there's a little room to deal
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Speaker 3: with the consequence of potential natural disasters or global financial
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Speaker 3: crisis in the near future. But look as steady as
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Speaker 3: you go message will remain next year. And yet there's
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Speaker 3: a sense the hard yards haven't started yet. If we're
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Speaker 3: going to meet the twenty twenty nine thirty surplus target,
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Speaker 3: the rule that is likely going to have to come
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Speaker 3: out again. Social services and public services will most likely
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Speaker 3: be the targets. In the meantime, we can head into
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Speaker 3: the new year with some cautious optimism that the economy
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Speaker 3: may have picked a look around the corner. I like
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Speaker 3: the expression one of my listeners suggested to me on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: brick by Brick in twenty six, maybe then we might
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Speaker 3: have built something a little bit more stable by twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty seven, Z B. Brick by Brick. It feels about right,
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Speaker 3: doesn't it. I know some people are keen to you
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Speaker 3: know it will fix in twenty six, and let's fix
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Speaker 3: it in twenty six, but I don't know. It feels
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Speaker 3: a bit hopeful we'll be back shortly. You're with any addition, the.
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Speaker 3: This is early edition on news Talk, said b I'm
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Speaker 3: Francisco Budkins filling in for Andrew Dickens who is on
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Speaker 3: Drive today. Thank you for being with us. And the
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Speaker 3: next half are we head to Europe where Zinski is
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Speaker 3: trying to convince the EU leaders to loan billions of
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Speaker 3: euros and frozen Russian money to Ukraine's cause a lot
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Speaker 3: of that money is sitting in Belgium and they're not
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Speaker 3: too keen on the idea because they feel that they're
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Speaker 3: going to be the ones they're going to deal with
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Speaker 3: the repercussions. Anyway, we're going to get an update on
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Speaker 3: what is happening there. And also Cameron bag Grey is
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Speaker 3: with us before six on the GDP figures. Thank you
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Speaker 3: for your feedback. We've been talking about the glory of
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Speaker 3: our school. One text reads, all good to close the school,
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Speaker 3: but how on earth are they going to integrate these
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Speaker 3: kids into mainstream schooling with the past schooling that they've had.
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Speaker 3: And I think you've kind of hit the nail on
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Speaker 3: the head there, which is the hardest thing possible. I
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Speaker 3: thought Liz had a really good idea, because you don't
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Speaker 3: want them suddenly being homeschooled or doing correspondence school because
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Speaker 3: you have the same issues of safety, in appropriate education
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Speaker 3: and things that they have by going to the school.
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Speaker 3: Very difficult to get them out and into the community,
19:28
Speaker 3: to these tiny schools where they'll obviously need a whole
19:31
Speaker 3: lot of new resources. So do you send on teachers
19:34
Speaker 3: and some a lot of pastoral care and set up
19:36
Speaker 3: a school within the school that exists there, and you
19:38
Speaker 3: teach them the curriculum and things. There's going to be
19:40
Speaker 3: a lot of catching up that needs to be done,
19:42
Speaker 3: and then of course where do the teachers come from.
19:45
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's a really tricky one, isn't it. Anyway?
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Speaker 3: Thank you for your feedback ninety two to eighty two.
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Speaker 3: You can keep the feedback coming. It is twenty one.
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Speaker 1: To six us dogs. Then be okay, let's.
19:57
Speaker 3: Head around the country now and joining me from need
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Speaker 3: and Callum Proctor, good morning, Warning Princisca, right, no one's
20:04
Speaker 3: put their hand up to fill the vacant seat on
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Speaker 3: the Central Otago District council.
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Speaker 10: No, that's right, the council is still operating. One councilor
20:12
Speaker 10: short in the Vincent Ward. This includes Alexandra and Clyde.
20:16
Speaker 10: It really is the heart of Central Otago. And this
20:19
Speaker 10: is because you remember Dave McKenzie step down following those
20:22
Speaker 10: social media allegations over unethical behavior during his time as
20:27
Speaker 10: a council contractor. Mayor Tama Allis told us that she's
20:31
Speaker 10: optimistic someone will step up, but she's unsure what will
20:34
Speaker 10: happen if nobody does. She says there's never been a
20:36
Speaker 10: more exciting time to be involved in local government. Candidates
20:40
Speaker 10: have until Monday to file a nomination form.
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Speaker 3: And Dunedin's weather today, Callum, small like.
20:47
Speaker 10: Winter today, rain easing to rain eases this afternoon strong
20:51
Speaker 10: Southerly's here today the high sixteen.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Callum, and have a lovely Christmas.
20:56
Speaker 3: Claire Sherwood joins us in christ Church warning Claire.
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Speaker 11: Merry Christmas, Good morning.
21:01
Speaker 3: Christ Church City Mission is welcoming all foods and treats
21:05
Speaker 3: for families this Christmas.
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Speaker 11: Yes, still a last minute plea for some donations for
21:10
Speaker 11: the mission. They are providing their usual this Christmas, which
21:14
Speaker 11: is a standard food parcel as well as a special
21:17
Speaker 11: festive one that will be going to about six thousand
21:20
Speaker 11: people the mission has helped throughout the year. That has
21:22
Speaker 11: been their system for a while. It's in favor of
21:24
Speaker 11: the old lunch where hundreds would turn out and spend
21:27
Speaker 11: the day together over lunch. The families instead get given
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Speaker 11: this coupon. They collect a parcel over a period of
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Speaker 11: three days leading up to Christmas Day. The city missioner here,
21:37
Speaker 11: Karen Haynes, says they will take any food donations still
21:40
Speaker 11: because there is always more people to help. She says
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Speaker 11: life at the mission doesn't finish on Christmas Day either,
21:46
Speaker 11: and demand is expected to continue well into January and beyond.
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Speaker 3: And how's the weather in christ Each today? Oh a
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Speaker 3: bit miserable here as well.
21:53
Speaker 11: We've got rain developing about mid day, could be heavy
21:56
Speaker 11: and thundery with hail late this afternoon. Northerlys changing st
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Speaker 11: at south Westerly high of twenty.
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Speaker 3: Four south charming clear. Thank you so much for your
22:05
Speaker 3: contribution to the show throughout the year. Have a great break.
22:09
Speaker 3: Max Toll is with us in Wellington.
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Speaker 12: Good morning, Good morning.
22:12
Speaker 3: What's with the Christmas trees in Wellington?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 12: Look well, some idiot in tim Adoo a few days
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Speaker 12: ago set their town Christmas tree alight and destroyed it.
22:21
Speaker 12: Now we've got a similar case in Featherston. In the
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Speaker 12: widered Apper this is a hand crafted tree made by
22:27
Speaker 12: a community group. It's been up in the town center
22:30
Speaker 12: a few days now, vandalized and destroyed, beautifully decorated with
22:34
Speaker 12: recycled material, hundreds of hours to make, and smashed and
22:38
Speaker 12: left in pieces. Unfortunately, unlike in Timodoo, which has seen
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Speaker 12: a local donator new tree, there's not enough time to
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Speaker 12: replace this one in Featherstone. And again, unlike tim Adoo,
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Speaker 12: we don't know at this point who's responsible. South widered
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Speaker 12: Appa mayor Fran Wilders are very disappointed and doesn't know
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Speaker 12: anyone in the community who would do this.
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Speaker 3: It's bad for mex Yeah, Wellington today.
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Speaker 12: Cloudy, the showers stronger northerlyas nineteen the high All.
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Speaker 3: Right, then, have a lovely Christmas, Max, thank you so
23:07
Speaker 3: much and joining me now in Auckland, Wendy Peatree, good morning,
23:11
Speaker 3: good morning, lovely, lovely to have you in the studio
23:13
Speaker 3: and you too, a big boost for Auckland.
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Speaker 13: Yes, well, the upgrade to the home of ASB Classic
23:19
Speaker 13: tennis tournament that has been confirmed it's got the go ahead.
23:23
Speaker 13: Auckland Council secured a fifteen million dollar revamp of The
23:26
Speaker 13: Man Who Could Doctor Arena, including that five million dollars
23:29
Speaker 13: for a new roof. ASB Classic ads two million dollars
23:32
Speaker 13: to Auckland's gdpach year, but Wayne Brown said rains has
23:36
Speaker 13: spoiled play too often. Auckland Unlimited CEO Nick Hall said
23:40
Speaker 13: the upgrades will open the door to more events and
23:42
Speaker 13: more reasons to visit the city center. He says they
23:45
Speaker 13: see the city center as a stage and what events
23:48
Speaker 13: work wear.
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Speaker 3: So Wendy, have they announced what they're going to do?
23:50
Speaker 3: Is it a full is it a full roof? Is
23:52
Speaker 3: it a retractable roof?
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Speaker 1: Listen?
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Speaker 13: It's a very good question that I wish I knew
23:56
Speaker 13: the answer to, but I can certainly find out.
23:59
Speaker 3: But been million dollars, it's probably what the budget allows.
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Speaker 3: That's probably the answer, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: I'm so retractable?
24:05
Speaker 3: That's because I think surely, let's just surely it would be.
24:09
Speaker 3: Let's just insist that that's what we want.
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Speaker 13: Or elubritic that means a bit high brow.
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Speaker 3: Twenty victory thank you so much. Oh, today's with the.
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Speaker 13: Weather year not quite so God does it today as
24:20
Speaker 13: cloudy periods around with a few showers easing in the afternoon.
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Speaker 3: But it does a bit all over the place, isn't okay?
24:24
Speaker 3: What's fatastic with the theme around the whole country into
24:27
Speaker 3: any one degree high? So that's still lovely. Thank you
24:29
Speaker 3: so much, Wendy. Right next off we are up to
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Speaker 3: UK and Europe. It is seventeen to six Neez.
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Speaker 2: TALKSB International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
24:43
Speaker 2: mind for New Zealand business, Vincent Mecca.
24:47
Speaker 3: Then he joins us now to talk about what's going
24:49
Speaker 3: on in the UK and Europe.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Vincent, Good morning.
24:54
Speaker 3: So zelenskis and Brussels. He's urging the European Union leaders
24:58
Speaker 3: to release it of this money, that is this frozen
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Speaker 3: Russian money to fund Ukraine's military and economic needs. I
25:05
Speaker 3: understand a lot of it is in Belgium and they're
25:07
Speaker 3: not hugely keen on releasing it for fear of repercussions.
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Speaker 3: Where are they it?
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Speaker 14: Well, this meeting is going on in Brussels with all
25:15
Speaker 14: the EU leaders and Zelenski he is saying that the
25:18
Speaker 14: country will run out of money if they don't get
25:20
Speaker 14: a fresh injection, because they're making a lot of their
25:23
Speaker 14: own drones and munitions to fight off Russia. Now, two
25:27
Speaker 14: hundred and ten billion euros worth of Russian accets are
25:31
Speaker 14: currently being held in a Belgium based organization. The European
25:35
Speaker 14: nations have been saying for years that this money should
25:38
Speaker 14: be used to fund the war effort of Ukraine.
25:40
Speaker 8: Until now.
25:41
Speaker 14: Belgium has tried to sort of sort of not block this,
25:45
Speaker 14: but has been cautious over this because they're saying that
25:48
Speaker 14: they're worried about the repercussions for them, but they're essentially saying, look,
25:52
Speaker 14: if the whole of the EU is on board with
25:54
Speaker 14: this and is willing to sort of take the risk
25:56
Speaker 14: with us, then we'll jump into the unknown and do this.
25:59
Speaker 14: But there are some in the EU, the likes of
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Speaker 14: Victor Allband, the leader of Hungary, who is trying to
26:03
Speaker 14: potentially block this. But Ursul Lon Delyon, who is the
26:07
Speaker 14: sort of European Commission chief, has said we're not leaving
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Speaker 14: this summer until we've got a solution to funding this.
26:13
Speaker 14: So there could be some positive news for Ukraine in
26:15
Speaker 14: the next few hours after what has been a really
26:17
Speaker 14: difficult few months with the White House of drifting back
26:22
Speaker 14: into the more Russian perspective.
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Speaker 3: Vincent's schools in England are trying to prevent the radicalization
26:29
Speaker 3: of young men and so teachers are now going to
26:31
Speaker 3: be given training to spot and tackle misogyny in the classroom.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, this is part of strategy to try to stop this,
26:38
Speaker 14: and particularly with the links to extreme pornography. So pornography
26:43
Speaker 14: here in the UK online has been put behind an
26:45
Speaker 14: age barrier. You basically you've seen a massive drop in
26:48
Speaker 14: young people being able to access it, so you have
26:51
Speaker 14: to have a valid ID showing that you're over eighteen.
26:54
Speaker 14: But another part of this has been an announcement today
26:57
Speaker 14: millions of pounds being spent to train teachers to spot
27:00
Speaker 14: the signs of misogyny in the classroom, particularly from the
27:02
Speaker 14: influence of the likes of Andrew Tate, and to try
27:06
Speaker 14: to course correct the behavior at a young age. But
27:09
Speaker 14: also if it's got more severe, special courses that young
27:12
Speaker 14: men can in particular can be sent on to try
27:14
Speaker 14: to sort of deradicalize them from these misogynist, extreme misogynist views.
27:19
Speaker 14: And this is part of a joined up strategy that
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Speaker 14: the government's pursuing. This is a landmark strategy they're saying
27:26
Speaker 14: eighteen months in the making since they came into government,
27:28
Speaker 14: which looks across department's education, health, other departments as well business,
27:33
Speaker 14: to try to tackle violence against women. Two women a
27:37
Speaker 14: week are killed here in the UK because of domestic
27:40
Speaker 14: violence and this is something that the Prime Minister in
27:43
Speaker 14: the government here want to make their sort of landmark
27:46
Speaker 14: piece of legislation this year.
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Speaker 3: We will very keen to see how that goes. Vincent,
27:51
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time this morning. Have
27:53
Speaker 3: a lovely Christmas.
27:55
Speaker 15: Zid me.
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Speaker 3: The economy is rebounded into one point one percent growth
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Speaker 3: in the September quarter, ahead of forecasts. Economists have been
28:03
Speaker 3: picking a rise of between point eight and one percent.
28:06
Speaker 3: Business services, manufacturing and construction led the recovery. Finally, some
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Speaker 3: signs of life in the economy. Independent economist Cameron Beagrie
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Speaker 3: joins me. Now, good morning, Cameron, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 15: Not good morning, Commorros.
28:19
Speaker 3: Okay, is it too early to celebrate.
28:24
Speaker 15: Well, there's this economy'scot forward propulsion. If you ever look
28:27
Speaker 15: at the second quarter number, what I've got revised down
28:30
Speaker 15: to minus one percent we're center plus one point one
28:33
Speaker 15: in September quarter. Do I think those two quarters that
28:37
Speaker 15: down and the up were a fair reflection of the economy.
28:39
Speaker 15: The answer is no. I think there's a little bit
28:41
Speaker 15: of underlying now is across a flat overall was probably
28:46
Speaker 15: about right. But if you look at most of the indicators,
28:48
Speaker 15: look your GDP obviously ours were concrete poured. You look
28:53
Speaker 15: at bank lending into the business sector in the month
28:55
Speaker 15: of October, there's a there's a pretty deep array of
28:59
Speaker 15: greenshoe there that are starting to shel It's a pretty
29:01
Speaker 15: consistent story. We've got forward propulsion. Are we knocking the
29:04
Speaker 15: ball out of the park as a one point one
29:07
Speaker 15: quarterly rise would imply. The answer is no, But we
29:10
Speaker 15: be back on the positive side of the leisure, which
29:12
Speaker 15: is the one thing we want.
29:13
Speaker 3: Do we Why have the previous quarters and compared to
29:16
Speaker 3: this quarter, why have they been kind of up and down?
29:19
Speaker 3: What's been contributing to that?
29:22
Speaker 15: Well, you can have a look at some yet one
29:23
Speaker 15: off such as your methanex shutting down production. I think
29:27
Speaker 15: Statistics Zone has got a little bit of noise going
29:29
Speaker 15: on with their what's called seasonal factors. Your pre code
29:33
Speaker 15: versus post COVID, you've seen different changes and behavior which
29:37
Speaker 15: is knocked around some of the balancing items as well. Yeah,
29:40
Speaker 15: so sometimes when you see that sort of noise within
29:42
Speaker 15: economic data, you just need to step back sometimes and
29:44
Speaker 15: take a little bit of deep breath. And I think
29:46
Speaker 15: there's a bit of an overreaction towards the negative number.
29:49
Speaker 15: It's going to little be a little bit of overreaction
29:51
Speaker 15: in regard to hype towards the positive number. But your
29:53
Speaker 15: net on net, the economy is definitely moving forward.
29:55
Speaker 3: Do you think that's going to settle down now? Do
29:57
Speaker 3: you think we can expect more steady GDP results.
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Speaker 15: I wouldn't say we've got to expect steady GDP results
30:04
Speaker 15: that are going forward. It's still like a two steps forward,
30:07
Speaker 15: one step back economy.
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Speaker 4: Here.
30:09
Speaker 15: We've got massive cycical coil winds. If you look at
30:11
Speaker 15: the farming sector. The farming sector has done pretty well
30:15
Speaker 15: in regard to the combination of commodity prices, low New
30:18
Speaker 15: Zealand dollar, but the heat's starting to come out of
30:20
Speaker 15: those dairy prices that we're keeping a close eye on that.
30:22
Speaker 15: For twenty twenty six, you got the Fontpia injection of
30:26
Speaker 15: about two point one billion into the economy. You've got
30:28
Speaker 15: the rolling impact of lower interest rates, you've got investment boost. Yes,
30:34
Speaker 15: there's an awful lot of cyclical support. What we've also
30:36
Speaker 15: got is some pretty massive structural headwinds, and one of
30:40
Speaker 15: the big ones it's just your energy prices, the d
30:43
Speaker 15: industrialization of New Zealand as we respond to high gas prices.
30:47
Speaker 15: We've got still continued weak productivity growth. There's still a
30:50
Speaker 15: little bit of nervous us out there towards the property market.
30:53
Speaker 15: Your people are cleaning up balance. It's yes, cypical support.
30:56
Speaker 15: There's still a whole lot of structural factors that we
30:58
Speaker 15: need to get on top of. Before you called what
31:01
Speaker 15: they are as a staying growth period of consistency.
31:03
Speaker 3: Now it feels like we've sort of peaked and look
31:06
Speaker 3: around the corner as opposed to heading sort of into
31:10
Speaker 3: a booming recovery, doesn't it.
31:13
Speaker 15: Yeah, well it's recovery. I don't think it's going to
31:15
Speaker 15: be like your normal what's called cyclical recovery, which is
31:18
Speaker 15: normally of the v variety. You go down pretty hard
31:22
Speaker 15: and then you come back up pretty aggressive the other side.
31:24
Speaker 15: As monetary policy works at magic on the intrasensitive parts
31:28
Speaker 15: of the economy. Construction, residential, property, retail and tripically respond
31:33
Speaker 15: and a pretty aggressive fection factor. Yeah, because we've got
31:36
Speaker 15: those structural headwinds and the property market. Yeah, there's still
31:40
Speaker 15: about doubled evaluation. It wasn't two thousands. So property prices
31:43
Speaker 15: have come down, but property prices are not cheap what
31:47
Speaker 15: they were twenty to thirty years ago. Yes, you've got
31:50
Speaker 15: these structural constraints on the magnitude of this economic upswing
31:54
Speaker 15: that people are penciling in. Are we going to see
31:56
Speaker 15: an upswing? Yes? Is it going to be a four
31:58
Speaker 15: to five percent growth up what you've seen historically when
32:01
Speaker 15: you're you're hit the wall, which we did hit the wall. Yeah,
32:04
Speaker 15: the answer is no. Now the expectations a sort of
32:06
Speaker 15: two to three percent quot in the next sort of
32:08
Speaker 15: twelve months are are pretty reasonable.
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Speaker 3: Cameron has always really appreciate your thoughts. Have a lovely
32:13
Speaker 3: Christmas for the best that was Cameron Bagriy there aking
32:18
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts to I mean, I think he's right,
32:20
Speaker 3: you know, I think we do get a little bit
32:21
Speaker 3: we get a bit worked up, don't we about the
32:22
Speaker 3: numbers and the figures and whether they're up and down
32:24
Speaker 3: and what it means. But they are a broadway for
32:26
Speaker 3: us to get a sense of where the economy is going.
32:28
Speaker 3: But as I said before, I really do hope that
32:30
Speaker 3: the politicians are also spent a bit of time over
32:32
Speaker 3: the summer talking to the everyday key were you out
32:34
Speaker 3: there and getting a sense of what life is like
32:37
Speaker 3: for them as well, to get a sort of a
32:38
Speaker 3: bit of a better understanding of things. It is six
32:41
Speaker 3: to six News Talks at.
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Speaker 2: B the first Word on the News of the Day
32:45
Speaker 2: early edition with Francesca Rudker and are the super Center
32:49
Speaker 2: explore are these eccessories and servicing?
32:52
Speaker 1: All in one News Talks B.
32:55
Speaker 3: Heather Busy is coming up at six am. It's a
32:59
Speaker 3: bit of a different kind of vibe when you walk
33:01
Speaker 3: into the studio compared to Mike hosking about now, he'd
33:03
Speaker 3: be clearing away all my stuff. He'd be putting out
33:05
Speaker 3: his nuts in front of you.
33:06
Speaker 14: Yeah.
33:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd be putting out his nuts. He would have
33:08
Speaker 3: changed the you know, the temperature and the studio and
33:11
Speaker 3: he'd literally and then I just feel like I've got
33:12
Speaker 3: to go because I'm in the way, you know.
33:14
Speaker 16: So he's the kind of you're having dinner and he's
33:17
Speaker 16: vacuuming around you.
33:18
Speaker 3: You're just of often with a piece of paper.
33:20
Speaker 16: Yeah, we started chatting about the temperature because I'm going
33:23
Speaker 16: to be honest with you, Franchesca.
33:25
Speaker 3: It's like the Arctic and it's not that bad. Never
33:30
Speaker 3: brings a puffer jacket under prove the point.
33:31
Speaker 8: It is what am I wearing?
33:33
Speaker 16: I am wearing a j cotton jersey and you have
33:36
Speaker 16: got no sleeves and it is at least two to
33:39
Speaker 16: three degrees to flip.
33:40
Speaker 3: It's cold and head that I don't do a lot
33:44
Speaker 3: of early mornings, and to be honest, to keep yourself,
33:46
Speaker 3: I'm awake, I'm trying to what's coming up on the show.
33:49
Speaker 16: Listen, We're going to talk about the GDP. Because I
33:51
Speaker 16: don't know about you. This is the most wonderful way
33:53
Speaker 16: to leave the year. This is it's the last working
33:55
Speaker 16: day for a lot of people today and what a
33:57
Speaker 16: great way to go out, knowing that we're already growing.
33:59
Speaker 3: It's going to be next year. It should be easier.
34:01
Speaker 16: If you're running a shop, you're not going to have
34:02
Speaker 16: to fight as hard and hustle has had.
34:04
Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that.
34:06
Speaker 16: Also, going to talk about what's happened with Jenny Wiley
34:09
Speaker 16: over at You told me earlier today, why are you like,
34:12
Speaker 16: get over it?
34:13
Speaker 3: It's net No, I didn't. I said, I'm sick of
34:15
Speaker 3: politicians and everybody putting their nose in.
34:17
Speaker 16: Now it's limo to a fascinating story.
34:19
Speaker 3: People are People are fascinating, So we'll talk about netball.
34:23
Speaker 3: Have a great day. I'll see you Sunday nine am
34:25
Speaker 3: for the Sunday Session. Take care.
34:28
Speaker 9: Keep shirt.
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