Latest / Bussin' With The Boys / Ryan Clark
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Before we jump into all the MMA. So are we
- 0:03Speaker 1: raided roll busting with the boys? We have Ryan Clark
- 0:08Speaker 1: on Ryan right, and I go way back. We played
- 0:11Speaker 1: one year together. That's how far back we go. Well
- 0:14Speaker 1: year was that it was your last year?
- 0:15Speaker 2: Thirteen?
- 0:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you lived thirteen for me with that was No,
- 0:17Speaker 3: it wasn't it was my last year. It was your thirteen.
- 0:19Speaker 3: It was two year squad, yeah, without a fourteen year though.
- 0:23Speaker 3: It was my thirteenth year in the season.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you played thirteen years in the league.
- 0:27Speaker 1: You are on how many segments on ESPN now not
- 0:30Speaker 1: counting the podcast too many?
- 0:33Speaker 3: I do get up first take Live Sports Center, But
- 0:36Speaker 3: you know, man, ESPN, they gonna get their pound of
- 0:39Speaker 3: flesh though, Like that's the way, that's the way it works,
- 0:41Speaker 3: until you could be stephen A and they pay you
- 0:43Speaker 3: astronomical amounts of money to do it.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Yeah, but you do, you do all that stuff.
- 0:47Speaker 3: You do you have face first podcast or you'll we'll
- 0:50Speaker 3: get into you train dudes in the offseason or maybe
- 0:53Speaker 3: all year round.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I don't even know. At this point.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I saw you coaching some under I saw you coaching
- 0:57Speaker 1: some under armour game.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Yeah, man, what else? What else are you doing?
- 1:01Speaker 3: We should have you know, No, that's enough. I mean
- 1:04Speaker 3: that's pretty much all it is. And I mean sure
- 1:07Speaker 3: you know the family, and so that's what I'm saying.
- 1:09Speaker 3: How do you how do you balance everything? According to
- 1:12Speaker 3: my wife, I don't, So that's the you know, So
- 1:15Speaker 3: that's the big thing. Jordan's at ASU now, he plays
- 1:18Speaker 3: for her, so he's going into his junior year. My
- 1:22Speaker 3: oldest just graduated from LSU. She's about to start she's
- 1:26Speaker 3: moving to San France and start working and do some
- 1:29Speaker 3: type of course at Berkeley. And then my youngest is
- 1:32Speaker 3: a junior man. So now I'm about to be an
- 1:34Speaker 3: empty nester bro and like I'm just trying to figure out,
- 1:38Speaker 3: like what do like normal people do, right, because my
- 1:41Speaker 3: wife wants like she's like, you retired, we need to
- 1:44Speaker 3: do this and like take trips. And I'm like, well
- 1:46Speaker 3: that's not really how it works for us, you know,
- 1:49Speaker 3: like I'm still in this, like I'm still working and
- 1:52Speaker 3: so you know, you do your best to balance it, man,
- 1:54Speaker 3: and I'm still still working on getting it right. Maybe
- 1:57Speaker 3: you can help me with it because now you're married
- 1:59Speaker 3: and stuff too.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not doing near as much as I
- 2:02Speaker 1: like it's admirable. I like, of course I follow you.
- 2:05Speaker 1: We've been, you know, since we've played together. I followed
- 2:07Speaker 1: you ever since because I feel like you were transitioning
- 2:09Speaker 1: into that media world, which we'll get into. But hearing
- 2:12Speaker 1: all that stuff, it reminds me of the Chevy Silverado.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about the Chevy Silverado? Tell
- 2:16Speaker 1: me about Are you a big fan of the Chevy Silverado?
- 2:18Speaker 1: You are, You're a huge fan.
- 2:19Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan because my first car was actually
- 2:22Speaker 3: a Chevy though so good.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Oh, I love that the strongest, most advanced Silverado ever.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The Silverado is strong, advanced, dependable, hard working like Ryan
- 2:30Speaker 1: Clark and the Boys, the designers, big bull commanding. This
- 2:33Speaker 1: truck turns heads, a partner with grit determination, anything is
- 2:37Speaker 1: possible with the Silverado.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Do you want to hear a few of a few
- 2:39Speaker 2: of the benefits you give with this son? You please
- 2:41Speaker 2: tell me.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Tailgating, hauling that new big screen, towing off, roading, moving day,
- 2:45Speaker 1: helping out your friend or family member, road chips with
- 2:48Speaker 1: your family. Run, You're going around, You're coaching all American games.
- 2:51Speaker 1: You're doing this, you're doing that, and the fans got
- 2:52Speaker 1: to jump in with you. You're going to watch your
- 2:54Speaker 1: son a d ask you do it in the Chevy Silverado.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Go to a Chevy dealership near you. Let them know
- 2:59Speaker 1: the boys sence. You might get a free trailer hitch.
- 3:01Speaker 1: We've seen him from a fan out there that they
- 3:03Speaker 1: got a free trailer hitch because they said, hey, the
- 3:04Speaker 1: boy sent me.
- 3:05Speaker 2: You get a few benefits, you get a few perks.
- 3:07Speaker 1: But Chevy Silverado, shout out the boys, no free shoutouts
- 3:11Speaker 1: all the love.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Now we get to a jump back. It was crazy though.
- 3:14Speaker 3: I was thinking myself, Dang, I wonder if I could
- 3:17Speaker 3: get a discount on a Silverado because you know, man,
- 3:19Speaker 3: like I'm a truck guy now, because in my retirement
- 3:22Speaker 3: I don't drive well enough to buy a car that
- 3:25Speaker 3: I feel like has to be cute, right right, you
- 3:27Speaker 3: get it. You get a Silverado, and it's like I
- 3:29Speaker 3: could go to work, I could do these things.
- 3:31Speaker 2: And I clean it up. I could take my old
- 3:32Speaker 2: lady out to eat.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Yeah, still be shot right, But will the busting with
- 3:36Speaker 3: the boys get me a discount on a Chevy silver Rado.
- 3:39Speaker 2: We can probably hook that up and someone that want
- 3:41Speaker 2: to do.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Something I take pictures, I kiss babies.
- 3:45Speaker 1: We gotta start reach out to Hey, I promise he's
- 3:47Speaker 1: gonna do this, But no, man, I'm super curious because
- 3:52Speaker 1: I'm gonna backpedal this entire episode because I know, like
- 3:55Speaker 1: how it all started for you, very similar with being undrafted.
- 3:58Speaker 1: You played thirteen years in the league, which is incredible
- 4:01Speaker 1: and talking about the stuff I've learned from you and
- 4:03Speaker 1: this and that, But I wanted to talk about you
- 4:05Speaker 1: transitioning because I feel like I'm in the middle of transitioning.
- 4:09Speaker 2: I feel like you're somebody.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Who understood that they were on their back nine of
- 4:14Speaker 1: their career. That's what I always refer to it as, yah,
- 4:16Speaker 1: and you started to see like you know, this is
- 4:18Speaker 1: gonna slow down at some point. You're somebody who was
- 4:21Speaker 1: working on transitioning while you were still playing. Right, and
- 4:24Speaker 1: because I remember your last year with US, I don't
- 4:27Speaker 1: know if you were doing it with the Steelers before that,
- 4:29Speaker 1: but you would come to OTA's Monday through Thursday, and
- 4:32Speaker 1: then you would go work, yeah, and then you would
- 4:35Speaker 1: fly to where was the Bristol, Yeah, Bristol to do
- 4:38Speaker 1: stuff for ESPN and work on the media and everything
- 4:41Speaker 1: like that, and then you would be back. You're the
- 4:43Speaker 1: first one in the meeting room. You always have your
- 4:45Speaker 1: nose super studious. But how did you balance and when
- 4:48Speaker 1: did you start to realize like the game was coming
- 4:50Speaker 1: to an end and you needed to figure out your
- 4:51Speaker 1: plan beat.
- 4:52Speaker 3: It was probably about about year ten, I think. I think, honestly,
- 4:55Speaker 3: you should. I should have noticed before that though, Like
- 4:58Speaker 3: I'm an undrafted dude, you know, worked at LSU. I
- 5:00Speaker 3: was cut after my second year and had a regular job,
- 5:03Speaker 3: like before Washington picked me up the first time. Man,
- 5:06Speaker 3: I had just left will Muschamp's office, headed back during
- 5:09Speaker 3: my lunch break, trying to be a ga, you know.
- 5:12Speaker 3: But around that time I had done some first takes.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Wait wait wait being a ga. Like you were cut
- 5:17Speaker 2: your second year?
- 5:18Speaker 3: Yes, so I was cut my second year. Tom Coughlin
- 5:20Speaker 3: sits in front of me.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Bro second year and you had a normal job. I
- 5:24Speaker 2: had a normal job. Yeah.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I worked at a Tiger Athletic foundation. I was sitting
- 5:27Speaker 3: on my sofa probably in like June of that year.
- 5:30Speaker 3: I get a call and dude's like, hey, you want
- 5:32Speaker 3: a job, And I was like, sure, what's the job?
- 5:34Speaker 3: He was like a Tiger Athletic Foundations, like the fundraising,
- 5:37Speaker 3: the fundraising sect of LSU, and so I started working.
- 5:40Speaker 3: So I would wake up, Bro. I would wake up
- 5:42Speaker 3: at four point thirty every morning, get dressed, drive from
- 5:45Speaker 3: New Orleans to Baton Rouge. I'd work eight to five.
- 5:48Speaker 3: I'd work. I'd work out in the weight room, which
- 5:51Speaker 3: was across the way from the office I had. Then
- 5:54Speaker 3: I'd drive back home, take a shower, eat, go to sleep,
- 5:58Speaker 3: and do it again. I went to the office to
- 6:00Speaker 3: ask much Champ. I was like, hey, man, let me
- 6:02Speaker 3: know what the process is to.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Be a GA.
- 6:04Speaker 3: I was like, I like to be a GA. I
- 6:06Speaker 3: love football, I love to coach. Walk back in the office.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Agent calls me. Washington wants you to come in for
- 6:11Speaker 3: a workout. Shawn t god rest is soul hurt his knee.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Another guy tore his knee up because Joe Gibbs was
- 6:18Speaker 3: like so ancient. They had a mini camp the day
- 6:21Speaker 3: before training camp. Right, so Bo, come in, pass out
- 6:25Speaker 3: the first practice, Yeah, Greg, Greg Williams forty up downs,
- 6:28Speaker 3: deep ball drills, right out the gate, right, pass out.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Sean Taylor comes over to me. He's like, hey, man,
- 6:33Speaker 3: like you better do something, Bro. Like they're talking about
- 6:35Speaker 3: getting you out of here. The dB coach, who is
- 6:37Speaker 3: my dB coach in New York, goes, hey, man, if
- 6:39Speaker 3: you don't do something in the second practice, that's what
- 6:41Speaker 3: back when they had two of days, they're going to
- 6:43Speaker 3: bring in somebody tomorrow. I get two picks in that practice,
- 6:46Speaker 3: right and after passing right and the two for anybody
- 6:50Speaker 3: who's listening, I have the sickle cell trade.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I didn't know how it worked then, but now I do.
- 6:54Speaker 3: I was kind of messed up, all right, But any
- 6:56Speaker 3: so and so and so, yeah, bro and so you
- 7:00Speaker 3: know I make the team, and you know those things
- 7:02Speaker 3: are going. But like I, you know, you fast forward,
- 7:04Speaker 3: I do first take and.
- 7:06Speaker 2: I leave the meeting.
- 7:07Speaker 3: You kind of talk about the notebook, Skip baylist man,
- 7:09Speaker 3: Like we're walking out of the meeting. I go down
- 7:11Speaker 3: a Sunday, watch the games Monday, I'm gonna be on
- 7:13Speaker 3: the show. I walk out of the meeting. Skip Bailer
- 7:15Speaker 3: stops the meeting, right, he stops everybody from walking out.
- 7:18Speaker 3: And he was like, I just want y'all to know
- 7:20Speaker 3: because and I want him to say it. Of every
- 7:22Speaker 3: athlete or entertainer that came here, he's the most prepared,
- 7:25Speaker 3: he was the most involved. He don't have my notebook
- 7:27Speaker 3: everything written down.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Similar to probably the way we were all preparing in football,
- 7:31Speaker 1: saying they're sitting there in the beginning of the meeting Ryan,
- 7:34Speaker 1: he's like the dude who comes in. Everybody knows who
- 7:37Speaker 1: Ryan Clark is, but he's sitting there being like the
- 7:39Speaker 1: the the example of what a coach wants, sitting there
- 7:43Speaker 1: with your notebook out, ready to take notes.
- 7:45Speaker 2: And had a lot of coffee that year too.
- 7:47Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and that's kind of when you
- 7:49Speaker 3: know will like, I started kind of putting feelers out
- 7:52Speaker 3: seeing what I could do.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Okay, now what kind of feelers? Like, what are these
- 7:55Speaker 2: things that you were doing?
- 7:56Speaker 3: So so so what I did was did you go.
- 7:59Speaker 2: To those boots camp set thing? No, you didn't do
- 8:01Speaker 2: none of that.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Oh it was a stupid What I did, bro, Let
- 8:06Speaker 3: me tell you about the feeler. A filler was Twitter. Okay, yeah,
- 8:10Speaker 3: so I tweet Jeer Ten. I was like, man, if
- 8:13Speaker 3: anybody needs an intern who's hard working, who's looking to
- 8:17Speaker 3: start a new career, hit me up. Trey Wingo dms me.
- 8:21Speaker 3: I was following Trey Wingo. Trey Wingo goes you should
- 8:23Speaker 3: intern here, and I was like, y'all do y'all do that?
- 8:26Speaker 3: He was like, no, but I'm sure they'll do it
- 8:27Speaker 3: for you. The Super bowls in New Orleans that year,
- 8:30Speaker 3: I go to a Super Bowl to work on NFL
- 8:32Speaker 3: Live to kind of do a guest spot. Trey says,
- 8:34Speaker 3: coming with me. Introduce me to Seth mark Man who
- 8:36Speaker 3: runs NFL at ESPN, and he's like, Ryan Clark wants
- 8:39Speaker 3: to do an internship. You should let him. He said,
- 8:41Speaker 3: I'll take care of it. I go, I work for
- 8:43Speaker 3: a week, and so usually when you go there, there's
- 8:45Speaker 3: somebody who basically holds your hand as you walk.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Around, right and you do it.
- 8:48Speaker 3: And so this week for me, I got my emails
- 8:51Speaker 3: like every other analyst, the producers reached out to me
- 8:54Speaker 3: like every other analyst, and it was basically a test
- 8:57Speaker 3: run for me to see if I liked it, but
- 8:59Speaker 3: to see if I was good at it.
- 9:01Speaker 2: I do that for a week.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Bro. That next monday, I got agents calling me and
- 9:05Speaker 3: one of them said, like the magic phrase, they go,
- 9:07Speaker 3: I think I could get you paid to do TV
- 9:09Speaker 3: while you play.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I said, you won, and so.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Little a little bit later they work out a deal
- 9:16Speaker 3: and so basically like my last two years in the league,
- 9:20Speaker 3: last with Pittsburgh the one with Washington. I lived off
- 9:23Speaker 3: of TV money and just banked my football money.
- 9:28Speaker 2: No ship, yep.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So how stressful was it going back and forth and
- 9:32Speaker 1: doing both, you know what like or was it not
- 9:35Speaker 1: that bad?
- 9:36Speaker 3: It's it's not bad, bro, Like you know you you
- 9:38Speaker 3: do this job and I saw I think it was
- 9:40Speaker 3: a Field Yates, you know, tweeted you that you're an
- 9:43Speaker 3: excellent podcast or what you are, and it made me
- 9:46Speaker 3: kind of proud of you because no, no, because I
- 9:49Speaker 3: was like, that's not you know, I'm saying that made
- 9:53Speaker 3: me proud and so but you know, like there's preparation
- 9:57Speaker 3: that goes into this, but when you are on the microphone,
- 10:00Speaker 3: you just you like even with the Silverado, you know,
- 10:03Speaker 3: the Silverado ad like.
- 10:04Speaker 2: You were just you.
- 10:05Speaker 3: I know what the words say, but the words that
- 10:07Speaker 3: you the way you said it was Will Compton like
- 10:10Speaker 3: that's what this is. And so going up for a
- 10:12Speaker 3: weekend and talking about football, which I loved, which I watched,
- 10:15Speaker 3: that wasn't stressful to me. I think the it was
- 10:18Speaker 3: more stressful in Pittsburgh because the first year I did it,
- 10:21Speaker 3: we were zero and four to start that year, which
- 10:23Speaker 3: is something that never happens in Pittsbagh.
- 10:25Speaker 2: So sorry to cut you off.
- 10:27Speaker 1: When our first year of doing the podcast and we
- 10:30Speaker 1: backlogged a lot of episodes to make us last of
- 10:32Speaker 1: the year is the year I ended up playing for
- 10:35Speaker 1: the Raiders, so I wasn't on the team, but until
- 10:37Speaker 1: I got picked up on the Raiders, I was, you know,
- 10:39Speaker 1: a Titan like I was essentially a fan of the Titans,
- 10:42Speaker 1: still getting with the Titans in the bus with the boys.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Titans started off like two and four.
- 10:46Speaker 1: So every time the Titans lose, like, I'm sitting at
- 10:49Speaker 1: home like, fuck man, I don't even want to post
- 10:51Speaker 1: this stuff. And I can only imagine what it was
- 10:53Speaker 1: like for probably Taylor or having to go into the
- 10:57Speaker 1: facility and continue to kind of be out front of it.
- 11:00Speaker 2: But but yeah, no, go ahead, I.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Just kind of no, no, no, you're absolutely right. And so
- 11:03Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, you know what it is. It's it's one
- 11:05Speaker 3: of those things. It's like, oh, you ain't focused on football,
- 11:08Speaker 3: You're on TV every Tuesday, woo, and cause it's a
- 11:11Speaker 3: still time, right, It's a town that's about winning championships,
- 11:15Speaker 3: which I had already done, right, And also Tuto like
- 11:18Speaker 3: people they tweet me that and saying that I was like,
- 11:20Speaker 3: mother f I lost my spleen, my gallbladder, piece of
- 11:23Speaker 3: my liver for this team, right, Like I didn't done
- 11:25Speaker 3: all that, And it's always that thing, right, have a
- 11:28Speaker 3: plan B. But your plan B can't be visible like
- 11:32Speaker 3: mine was. You see what I'm saying, Like, say, I
- 11:34Speaker 3: was doing construction in the off season. Oh, that's admirable.
- 11:37Speaker 3: You know, he's doing like an everyday working man's job.
- 11:40Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Or if I was run Clark does in the off
- 11:42Speaker 1: season Bill Houses exactly, like this is so awesome.
- 11:45Speaker 2: This is a man who was preparing.
- 11:47Speaker 3: But since I was doing TV and it's during the season,
- 11:50Speaker 3: it's like, okay, is that taking his focus? No? They
- 11:53Speaker 3: just asking me questions about the freaking Pittsburgh Steelers. I
- 11:56Speaker 3: know about them more than anybody, and so like that
- 11:58Speaker 3: was the thing. And then and it did become it
- 12:02Speaker 3: did become for me an issue because just like you know, perception,
- 12:08Speaker 3: even though it's not the truth, can be reality, right,
- 12:12Speaker 3: And so the perception of me throughout my career was
- 12:15Speaker 3: exactly what you said.
- 12:16Speaker 2: It was.
- 12:17Speaker 3: First in the meeting, always prepared, works extremely hard, like
- 12:20Speaker 3: all these things, and it hurt me a little bit
- 12:23Speaker 3: for people to think that I didn't care anymore just
- 12:26Speaker 3: because I understood the game.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Yeah, because like and it sucks too, because I feel
- 12:33Speaker 1: like what plays into that perception too, is because you
- 12:35Speaker 1: care so much about like the team, and even though
- 12:37Speaker 1: that perception, even though you know like the boys don't
- 12:40Speaker 1: necessarily think that way, there's still a part of you
- 12:43Speaker 1: that I know for me too, like you just lay
- 12:45Speaker 1: up like, man, I hope coach or I hope you
- 12:47Speaker 1: know the fellas aren't getting like any kind of wrong
- 12:50Speaker 1: idea because I've read something on social media that's got
- 12:53Speaker 1: me and my feeling.
- 12:54Speaker 3: You internalize that, and that's the you know, like people
- 12:59Speaker 3: we all want to live by like the whole we
- 13:01Speaker 3: don't really care what people think. And and to an extent,
- 13:04Speaker 3: I think, like I'm very much like that. But the
- 13:08Speaker 3: other side of it is too is I don't, like,
- 13:11Speaker 3: I don't want to be misunderstood. And so we had
- 13:14Speaker 3: a meeting at work one time and my boss, this
- 13:17Speaker 3: is when like Jason Whitten was coming over to ESPN
- 13:21Speaker 3: to do Monday night football before he had to go
- 13:23Speaker 3: back to do football because he wasn't really.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Good night before.
- 13:32Speaker 3: He made the right scitions to go back and then
- 13:33Speaker 3: never come back again. And so like he's going through
- 13:38Speaker 3: like Jason Witten's ten Twitter rules or something like that, right,
- 13:42Speaker 3: and so like one of the rules was, uh, don't
- 13:46Speaker 3: argue with people on Twitter, and so like, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 3: my boss and I love him, and I text him
- 13:51Speaker 3: about it was just kind of like, uh, you know,
- 13:53Speaker 3: make the joke the whole, like like like Ryan argues
- 13:56Speaker 3: with guys with two followers and it's a big meeting, right.
- 13:59Speaker 3: I I didn't do to him what I did to
- 14:01Speaker 3: Jay Gruden that time when he was like talking subliminately
- 14:04Speaker 3: about RG and I stood up and was like, hey, guys,
- 14:07Speaker 3: we know he's talking about RG three.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Oh shit, I forgot about that. I was the captain.
- 14:12Speaker 2: I could do what that. Yeah.
- 14:13Speaker 3: I was like, sa, bro, like we know what's going on,
- 14:15Speaker 3: Like come on, dog, you know what I mean. And
- 14:17Speaker 3: so I didn't do that. But I text him afterwards though,
- 14:20Speaker 3: you know, and I was like, look, man, who'd you
- 14:22Speaker 3: text that? George my boss? I texted him, I said, Bro,
- 14:24Speaker 3: I said, you know, I said, Jason Whitten is fine.
- 14:27Speaker 3: You know, I think I think Jason Wittenes. This is
- 14:29Speaker 3: before he started workings. I think he's a great man
- 14:30Speaker 3: because he is. I've met him. I love talking to
- 14:32Speaker 3: him the things he does in the community. But I
- 14:34Speaker 3: was like, I ain't that dude. I was like, I'm
- 14:36Speaker 3: a fighter, you know what I'm saying. And I was like,
- 14:38Speaker 3: and to have a team, like, you got to have
- 14:41Speaker 3: all types of people. You gotta have a dude that's
- 14:43Speaker 3: gonna be calm and not get into arguments, and then
- 14:45Speaker 3: you got to have a dude that when the argument start,
- 14:47Speaker 3: he gonna be out front making sure everybody's good. But
- 14:50Speaker 3: most of the time, bro, like I reply to these
- 14:52Speaker 3: things like you could say, like when people say like mean, stupid,
- 14:55Speaker 3: ignorant things about me, I don't respond to that unless
- 14:58Speaker 3: like I can see their profile pick and it have
- 15:00Speaker 3: some obvious deformity that I know they might be insensitive
- 15:04Speaker 3: about and not like a real deformity. Yeah yeah, no,
- 15:08Speaker 3: not a dog, because that's not fun.
- 15:09Speaker 2: To talk about.
- 15:10Speaker 3: Like if the person like it's like slightly unhandsome or
- 15:16Speaker 3: slight something like that, well I could take a shot
- 15:20Speaker 3: in joke. I'll do that if they say something like
- 15:22Speaker 3: they cuss me or something like that. But Most of
- 15:24Speaker 3: the time, I respond because the reason they hate me
- 15:28Speaker 3: or dislike me or disagree with me is because they
- 15:30Speaker 3: don't understand it. Like I'm cool with the fact that
- 15:33Speaker 3: you don't like something I say, Like if I say
- 15:36Speaker 3: something like if I say something about Josh Allen and
- 15:38Speaker 3: you disagree, which Bill's Mafia does often, and you have
- 15:42Speaker 3: me one hundred percent pegged the right way, Like if
- 15:45Speaker 3: I say, yeah, Josh Allen, you know it wasn't great.
- 15:48Speaker 3: You know, we saw him with sin, but I didn't
- 15:49Speaker 3: necessarily think he was the top ten quarterback before last year.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Now with Stefan Diggs, he's ascended and you get that
- 15:55Speaker 3: and you're like, nah, but he was great two years ago.
- 15:58Speaker 3: I'd be like, nah, you still that's not true. But
- 16:01Speaker 3: I'm not mad because you understood me, like you got it.
- 16:03Speaker 3: But when people like feel like you know, like sometimes
- 16:06Speaker 3: I get the thing that I'm racist because I stand
- 16:09Speaker 3: up for black people.
- 16:10Speaker 2: No I'm not right, No I'm not you.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Know, you know, like my oldest daughter's white, Like you
- 16:17Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you know and so, but
- 16:19Speaker 3: I'm not. But during twenty twenty, when I felt like
- 16:22Speaker 3: it was important to speak up, I did, But because
- 16:24Speaker 3: I spoke up people was like, oh, you must feel
- 16:26Speaker 3: this way, and I would have to reply to that
- 16:28Speaker 3: because I don't want that misconception about me. Now if
- 16:31Speaker 3: you don't if you hear what I say and understand
- 16:33Speaker 3: it and still don't f with me.
- 16:35Speaker 2: So I don't even know you anyway, But I just don't.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Want to be misunderstood because once those things get out,
- 16:40Speaker 3: eventually those narrative narratives begin to carry and I don't
- 16:44Speaker 3: want that.
- 16:45Speaker 2: So do you feel like.
- 16:49Speaker 1: It's part of the game that we are in as
- 16:52Speaker 1: like in this world of social media media in general,
- 16:55Speaker 1: to have like certain we call it branding, to engage
- 16:59Speaker 1: with fans as well, because like you could take the
- 17:01Speaker 1: rules of like the example being you a nalg of
- 17:04Speaker 1: Jason Wit or don't argue with trolls or people like
- 17:06Speaker 1: that on on Twitter, like me in my seat the
- 17:10Speaker 1: reason I have fun and don't take it so serious
- 17:12Speaker 1: and I'm out there, I'm tweeting and stuff like that,
- 17:14Speaker 1: Like I wasn't like a quarterback or like Peyton Manning
- 17:18Speaker 1: who doesn't even need Twitter because whatever he does is
- 17:20Speaker 1: gonna be whatever it is, It's gonna be goals, right,
- 17:23Speaker 1: Like they just say it's gonna be funny because he
- 17:25Speaker 1: doesn't need Twitter to build anything. But I feel like
- 17:27Speaker 1: that plays into some of our branding as far as engaging,
- 17:30Speaker 1: as long as we understand how to compartmentalize, you know,
- 17:32Speaker 1: you don't want to be misunderstood. But like playing in
- 17:34Speaker 1: all this stuff because people like, why do you even
- 17:36Speaker 1: give it? Why do even give it gas? And for
- 17:38Speaker 1: me it's like, well, I mean it's gonna be funny,
- 17:40Speaker 1: Like I think it comes off as funny.
- 17:41Speaker 3: But yeah, like I think like some of it for
- 17:43Speaker 3: me is funny. Like I said, when I look at
- 17:46Speaker 3: profile picks and talk, I also like to engage too,
- 17:49Speaker 3: Like you know, I started a new I got a
- 17:51Speaker 3: new MMA show and the comments are bad, but the
- 17:55Speaker 3: dms are worse, Like straight up bro like the stuff.
- 17:58Speaker 3: So no, oh man, they you stupid mother effort. You
- 18:01Speaker 3: don't know nothing because you don't think Islam. Machachev's last
- 18:04Speaker 3: fight against Moisis was a good fight.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Now it was boring as hell, But what happens is right.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I answer those questions and I have those conversations with
- 18:13Speaker 3: those people because a lot of times I learned because
- 18:15Speaker 3: what we know is this right, you can be as
- 18:19Speaker 3: good as you and you can think you're as good
- 18:21Speaker 3: as you want to be in that seat, but it's
- 18:23Speaker 3: about how people see you that's eventually gonna get you
- 18:26Speaker 3: paid period, right, And whether it's to hire or upstat
- 18:30Speaker 3: see you or executives in different places, or it's just
- 18:33Speaker 3: the feedback they get from your show and a way
- 18:35Speaker 3: to show rates like that's how like like that's how
- 18:39Speaker 3: like that's our value, And it's not the value that
- 18:42Speaker 3: you have to internalize, right, Like, I don't have to
- 18:44Speaker 3: walk out and be like, dang, I ain't worth nothing
- 18:46Speaker 3: because these people don't agree.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Now, it's not how it works.
- 18:49Speaker 3: How it works is if they don't hate me enough
- 18:53Speaker 3: to watch it and talk about it, or love me
- 18:55Speaker 3: enough to watch it and talk about it, then I
- 18:57Speaker 3: ain't winning.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Right. Kanye, who's that crap crazy.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Now right, has a line in a song that's like
- 19:06Speaker 3: one of my favorite lines ever, and it's very simple.
- 19:08Speaker 3: He said, everybody feel a way about yay, but at
- 19:11Speaker 3: least they feel something like people can't nothing us if
- 19:13Speaker 3: they just nothing us, like if they could take it
- 19:16Speaker 3: or leave it, whether or not we on TV or
- 19:18Speaker 3: whether or not we're doing our podcast.
- 19:20Speaker 2: And that's not good.
- 19:21Speaker 3: You know, if if they could take it or leave
- 19:23Speaker 3: it that this dude's fighting, then that dude don't headline
- 19:26Speaker 3: pay per views, or or if they could take it
- 19:28Speaker 3: or leave it that that you're you're not playing your game.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Those teams don't get primetime games. Like that's the way
- 19:33Speaker 3: it works. And so I think that's all a huge
- 19:37Speaker 3: like a huge part of our interaction and too on
- 19:41Speaker 3: who on who you are, Like I've been around you,
- 19:44Speaker 3: like you just legit are fun like like straight up
- 19:47Speaker 3: like and in a way no, I'm just saying like
- 19:50Speaker 3: like in a way like it even made me laugh
- 19:53Speaker 3: one time, you know, like when the whole Derek Heary
- 19:56Speaker 3: thing was going on, which I'm sure we'll get to
- 19:58Speaker 3: at some point. It was probably somebody in here tweeted
- 20:01Speaker 3: something dumb about, you know, about Derrek finally stiff throwm
- 20:06Speaker 3: somebody and it was on Busting with the Boys, and
- 20:08Speaker 3: I was like, first off, you know, because I run
- 20:10Speaker 3: all of my stuff, I was like, first off, Will's
- 20:12Speaker 3: my nephew. He know me, Like if he wanted to
- 20:14Speaker 3: know the answer to this, so he could text me
- 20:16Speaker 3: or I'll come do the show. And he was like,
- 20:18Speaker 3: oh unk, And when I see you I'm gonna hug
- 20:20Speaker 3: you and it's gonna be all up. And it just
- 20:22Speaker 3: made me laugh because like part of me was like, well,
- 20:25Speaker 3: if Will's a part of this, like why would he
- 20:27Speaker 3: even tweet that, like that's my dog? But then when
- 20:29Speaker 3: you said it, I was like, nah, he right, you
- 20:31Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, like that part, And so
- 20:33Speaker 3: that's what you portray and that's the way you interact.
- 20:37Speaker 3: I'm actually like like this, like I don't like stupidity sometimes,
- 20:41Speaker 3: like I don't like to be misunderstood, and I think
- 20:43Speaker 3: that that comes across. But I'm also fun and I
- 20:46Speaker 3: have a good time and I'm silly. But all those
- 20:48Speaker 3: things are what we have to portray in our brand.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Where somebody like Peyton Manning, it's on display so much
- 20:54Speaker 3: and highlighted so much, he doesn't need to show.
- 20:56Speaker 1: That, right, And I did take from what you were
- 20:59Speaker 1: saying that too, like when you are engaging, like there's
- 21:01Speaker 1: a little bit of learning that goes involved with like
- 21:03Speaker 1: you said, if they hate you that much, they wouldn't watch,
- 21:05Speaker 1: they wouldn't listen to you, and all that. But when
- 21:07Speaker 1: somebody's obviously projecting and meeting you with some kind of
- 21:09Speaker 1: friction and then you talk back to them in a
- 21:12Speaker 1: way that you're either learning or you're saying something. They're like, oh,
- 21:15Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know you were going to respond,
- 21:17Speaker 1: and all.
- 21:17Speaker 2: These energies obviously different.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's something in there too about responding with like,
- 21:22Speaker 1: you know, I'm not so triggered by this that I
- 21:24Speaker 1: can't like get something about like yo, where are you
- 21:26Speaker 1: coming from? Or yeah, you're right, it was born, but
- 21:29Speaker 1: this you know, X, Y and Z, And I do
- 21:32Speaker 1: feel like there's there's that learning component that you have,
- 21:34Speaker 1: which obviously has ultimately gotten you where you are now.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know.
- 21:39Speaker 3: The other piece about about learning that I had to learn, bro,
- 21:43Speaker 3: is that like I can't like Lewis Riddick. Right, Lewis
- 21:46Speaker 3: Riddick grew up differently than me. Lewis Riddick has had
- 21:50Speaker 3: different experiences than I have. I can't out Lewis Riddick
- 21:53Speaker 3: Lewis Ridick, you know, like I'm not going to get
- 21:55Speaker 3: on there and be stern faced the entire time and
- 21:59Speaker 3: say these things that people think are always so eloquent,
- 22:02Speaker 3: you know, Like I can't do that. And I just
- 22:04Speaker 3: remember when I first got the job, I wanted people
- 22:06Speaker 3: to think I was so dang smart because kind of
- 22:09Speaker 3: like what you said too about you know, understanding and
- 22:12Speaker 3: branding and this and that. It was like I wasn't
- 22:15Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer. I won't be in a Hall
- 22:17Speaker 3: of Famer, and I'm not a quarterback, right and so
- 22:20Speaker 3: in that and too, like I wear colorful suits.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Sometimes I had different sometimes you always you always, oh, yeah,
- 22:29Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
- 22:30Speaker 3: I doce different things with my hair, and I understand
- 22:32Speaker 3: like the perception of that. So when I first started,
- 22:34Speaker 3: I was like, man like, I just want to be smart, man.
- 22:37Speaker 3: So I would just study and study and study, and
- 22:39Speaker 3: I would like spew the stats I learned and talk
- 22:41Speaker 3: about the plays I saw. And it was it was
- 22:45Speaker 3: Josina Anderson, who was in Washington, my first thing in Washington,
- 22:49Speaker 3: and one day, man like, We're just sitting in the
- 22:51Speaker 3: green room and she was like, I wish people knew
- 22:53Speaker 3: how funny you were. And I kind of felt some
- 22:57Speaker 3: type of way. I was like, what do you mean.
- 22:59Speaker 3: She's like, I wish like your personality, like your real
- 23:02Speaker 3: personality showed on TV. And she was like, don't get
- 23:05Speaker 3: me wrong, you do a great job and people here
- 23:07Speaker 3: love you. She was like, but I know who you
- 23:09Speaker 3: are and I wish that that showed and like, I
- 23:12Speaker 3: just this when Get Up started, and Get Up was
- 23:15Speaker 3: kind of like struggling and they were like and then
- 23:17Speaker 3: the producer his name is Zach BENNERBIEB and he would
- 23:20Speaker 3: produce me every day I was on. He was like,
- 23:22Speaker 3: what do you want to do? What do you want
- 23:24Speaker 3: to talk about? How do you want to talk about it?
- 23:26Speaker 3: Because they were in a place where he understood, like,
- 23:28Speaker 3: this is the way the show is going to get off,
- 23:30Speaker 3: and he just started letting me be me. And then
- 23:33Speaker 3: because I did it on Get Up, Now First Take
- 23:35Speaker 3: wanted that me too. Now Sports Center wants that you too,
- 23:38Speaker 3: Live wants that you too. So it was truly when
- 23:41Speaker 3: I started just thinking, just started just being myself, like
- 23:43Speaker 3: being the same person that's sitting here talking to you.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Was when my career took off, I think, and also
- 23:51Speaker 3: when I started to enjoy it, because it was like
- 23:53Speaker 3: real work for me at first, and football was never work.
- 23:57Speaker 2: And you felt did you feel stressed?
- 23:58Speaker 1: I guess trying to be this image that you wanted
- 24:01Speaker 1: to have as being the smartest dude because you felt
- 24:03Speaker 1: like you probably had to prove yourself in this world
- 24:05Speaker 1: and overcome some of the thoughts that might be out there,
- 24:07Speaker 1: and then finding that new voice of like balancing the
- 24:11Speaker 1: humor with it, or that about.
- 24:13Speaker 2: To get thing.
- 24:13Speaker 3: Bro, I'm not gonna die stress, like I ain't gonna
- 24:16Speaker 3: let that happen. So now I wouldn't say I wouldn't
- 24:18Speaker 3: say I was stressed. I just I definitely had to
- 24:24Speaker 3: think about it and work on it more than I
- 24:28Speaker 3: should have been, because the personality part is truly just personality, right,
- 24:33Speaker 3: and worrying about how people perceived me took away the
- 24:38Speaker 3: personality part of it. And so now I still study
- 24:41Speaker 3: the same way, I still focus the same way. I'm
- 24:44Speaker 3: still up on Monday nights, I mean on Sunday night
- 24:47Speaker 3: or Monday morning till two three am, get up at
- 24:49Speaker 3: five to do get up. But when I get up
- 24:52Speaker 3: to do it, it's not like I gotta say, I
- 24:54Speaker 3: gotta make sure I hit this play, that play, that play.
- 24:56Speaker 3: It's I have an overall view of what happened. I
- 24:59Speaker 3: have things that stick out in my mind. And if
- 25:02Speaker 3: when I ask the question, that's the first thing I
- 25:04Speaker 3: think about, I'll say it. If it's not, then it's
- 25:06Speaker 3: not like if you ask me a question. And the
- 25:09Speaker 3: first thing, and the first thing I think about is
- 25:11Speaker 3: blived on house party and every time he tried to
- 25:14Speaker 3: dance with a chick that was saying his breastink and
- 25:16Speaker 3: then he started singing in their ear. And that's the
- 25:18Speaker 3: first thing I think about. It's the first thing I'm
- 25:19Speaker 3: gonna say. And if I'm on the show with somebody black,
- 25:22Speaker 3: usually they catch it. If I'm not, usually they don't.
- 25:27Speaker 3: And I just keep on, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:31Speaker 2: He said, if he's not kind of look to the.
- 25:36Speaker 3: But you know, and so the thing that's happened from that,
- 25:39Speaker 3: though it is greenier Gough. I'm sure that's funny, but
- 25:42Speaker 3: no idea what you're talking about, you know what I mean?
- 25:44Speaker 3: And that and that's the thing. But I think it's
- 25:46Speaker 3: also too since I started being that way, I think
- 25:50Speaker 3: it's allowed it's allowed other people to to kind of
- 25:53Speaker 3: live in that truth, and it's helped me. It's helped
- 25:55Speaker 3: me work with other dudes. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 25:58Speaker 3: if you're on there with somebody who not necessarily like
- 26:01Speaker 3: the most personality, then I know that day I have
- 26:04Speaker 3: to be a lot of personality, you know, or if
- 26:06Speaker 3: you go on the show and you know somebody feeds
- 26:08Speaker 3: off of you very well. I know that day I
- 26:11Speaker 3: could throw alley oops and they'll catch them and that
- 26:14Speaker 3: and that's really I think that's really when you start
- 26:17Speaker 3: to get in a sweet spot of people telling you,
- 26:21Speaker 3: knowing and understanding that every time you're on a show,
- 26:25Speaker 3: you make it better, because that's the goal. Every time
- 26:28Speaker 3: you're on the show. You want the people you work with,
- 26:31Speaker 3: the people producing the show, to be like, dang, when
- 26:33Speaker 3: our seas on the show, that's better.
- 26:35Speaker 2: And I think that's where I am now.
- 26:36Speaker 1: I feel like I'm learning a lot about his psyche
- 26:38Speaker 1: on like going into all these different shows and everything.
- 26:41Speaker 1: It's pretty it's interesting to like listen to just because
- 26:44Speaker 1: I feel like you've had to you've grown through it all.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Obviously you've approached it the same way you've probably like me,
- 26:51Speaker 1: it's still being a dumb football player, like being a
- 26:53Speaker 1: football player and carrying it over to the next world.
- 26:55Speaker 1: But it's just insightful to kind of listen to, like,
- 26:58Speaker 1: you know, going into these pre meetings or things and
- 27:00Speaker 1: like finding your voice and here's the sweet spot, and
- 27:02Speaker 1: here's where I started to learn this, And I wanted
- 27:04Speaker 1: to be smarter, but then I had to learn that.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Here's how I had to adapt to bring this element
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- 29:08Speaker 1: Them tear drops it needs, I say, yeah, trust me,
- 29:11Speaker 1: I've been. I was doing the t k E early
- 29:13Speaker 1: this morning, your Face First podcast. I want to talk
- 29:17Speaker 1: about that a little bit because I was watching your uh,
- 29:20Speaker 1: your sit down.
- 29:20Speaker 2: I want to say it was, uh, what was the
- 29:22Speaker 2: one with the DBS called Safeties First? Safeties First?
- 29:25Speaker 1: And then you sat down with Troy Polamalu recently and
- 29:27Speaker 1: I Taylor Legends, Uh talk talk a little bit about
- 29:31Speaker 1: what that's about and where you're wanting to go with that,
- 29:33Speaker 1: because I feel like you've made a couple of pivots
- 29:34Speaker 1: along the way, and now I feel like it's starting
- 29:36Speaker 1: to get out there more than ever.
- 29:38Speaker 2: I'm curious what you're what the brain is behind that
- 29:40Speaker 2: open It's all happened accidentally on an accident.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Accident, an accident, So it started because I wasn't I'm
- 29:48Speaker 3: not in love with TV okay, like I just not
- 29:51Speaker 3: in love in what way I think, you know, Like
- 29:55Speaker 3: I get around people. Marcus Spears is one of my
- 29:57Speaker 3: closest friends, went to college together. He's a on TV.
- 30:01Speaker 3: We're standing at the spring game at LSU one year,
- 30:03Speaker 3: probably three four years ago, and he goes, what do
- 30:07Speaker 3: you want to do with this TV stuff? And I
- 30:09Speaker 3: was like, oh man, you know, I really love ball
- 30:10Speaker 3: and I love the fact they let me talk about it.
- 30:12Speaker 3: So as long as they pay me to do it,
- 30:13Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Yeah, And he goes, I want
- 30:16Speaker 3: to be a TV star. And the first the first
- 30:18Speaker 3: thing out of my mouth, without thinking, was I don't.
- 30:22Speaker 3: And that's one true like I don't. I I I
- 30:26Speaker 3: rather be seen less. Like if you look at my
- 30:29Speaker 3: social media, like there's no there's no video of me
- 30:33Speaker 3: talking holding the phone in my face about anything, right, Like,
- 30:37Speaker 3: you'll never see me.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Oh such and such just happened.
- 30:40Speaker 3: It was this nah, like because if I ain't on TV,
- 30:42Speaker 3: then it ain't for my voice to be heard right now,
- 30:44Speaker 3: like and and it's strange.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Like you having hot takes like doing that, yeah, yeah,
- 30:48Speaker 2: but and and so and so.
- 30:50Speaker 3: For me, it started to become work in the sense
- 30:54Speaker 3: that you know, you got to talk about what's hot
- 30:56Speaker 3: in the cycle. You know, you got you gotta talk
- 30:58Speaker 3: about Aaron Rodgers all summer because Aaron Rodgers is a story,
- 31:00Speaker 3: but Amon Rodgers shows up on the first day in
- 31:03Speaker 3: his shirt with Kevin from the office on it, right,
- 31:05Speaker 3: But you got to talk about it, and you got
- 31:07Speaker 3: to talk about it in a way that people get
- 31:09Speaker 3: excited about it every dang time you do. And so
- 31:13Speaker 3: it started at first because I was like, you know what,
- 31:15Speaker 3: I'm going to start a podcast. Nobody ever has to
- 31:18Speaker 3: listen to it, but it's gonna be like therapy. If
- 31:20Speaker 3: there was something I wanted to talk about that week,
- 31:22Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it.
- 31:23Speaker 2: So that's how it started.
- 31:24Speaker 3: And it was just me sitting I did a radio
- 31:26Speaker 3: show every week, and the dude was like our video
- 31:28Speaker 3: for it for RC, it was in a studio it
- 31:32Speaker 3: still will be, right, and so I was going say,
- 31:34Speaker 3: I kind of dig that, yeah, so it's still it
- 31:37Speaker 3: still will be. And so I took off for most
- 31:40Speaker 3: of twenty twenty because right at the beginning of COVID
- 31:44Speaker 3: my mom got it. And so my mom has lupus
- 31:47Speaker 3: really bad. Uh. She has what's called aspagillous, which is
- 31:51Speaker 3: basically like where you get pneumonia a lot. And I
- 31:53Speaker 3: hope I'm saying this right. No, no doctors check me
- 31:57Speaker 3: her lungs basically have callouses on them.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Right.
- 32:01Speaker 3: And so if you would have asked me when I
- 32:03Speaker 3: first heard about COVID, who's the one person in your
- 32:05Speaker 3: life who can't survive it? I would pick my mom, right,
- 32:10Speaker 3: My mom, My mom growing up. My mom my parents
- 32:13Speaker 3: were my best friends on the East Side. She was
- 32:15Speaker 3: my best female friend. He was my best My father
- 32:17Speaker 3: was my best male friend growing up. And so my
- 32:20Speaker 3: mom goes to church, bro, like eight days a week,
- 32:23Speaker 3: like twenty five hours a day, stays in church. And
- 32:26Speaker 3: so I call her the first when she first gets it.
- 32:28Speaker 3: We're talking about it, and like I'm fighting from crying.
- 32:31Speaker 3: She's not scared of freaking out. I'm freaked out. So
- 32:34Speaker 3: every day, so every three days we drive down Bringer
- 32:37Speaker 3: supplies me and my kids and my wife would sit
- 32:40Speaker 3: on my sidewalk where I grew up. My mom would
- 32:42Speaker 3: sit in the doorway with her mask on, and that's
- 32:44Speaker 3: how we talked to her, you know what I mean.
- 32:46Speaker 3: And so like at that time, she didn't test negative
- 32:49Speaker 3: for forty six days, okay, right, And so at that time, bro,
- 32:53Speaker 3: it was all I could think about, you know, And
- 32:56Speaker 3: so I was like, people don't want to come hear
- 32:57Speaker 3: me talk about my mom and COVID every day. And
- 33:01Speaker 3: so then shortly after, right, we get George Floyd and
- 33:06Speaker 3: we get Breonna Taylor, and that stuff consumed me.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Right, so oh, I mean a lot of people.
- 33:11Speaker 1: It was like with everything shut down, it was kind
- 33:13Speaker 1: of just the focus and magnifying glasses whatever was the
- 33:16Speaker 1: big topic coming out.
- 33:17Speaker 2: But yeah, you know what I'm saying.
- 33:18Speaker 3: So that consumed me, and it was all I could do,
- 33:20Speaker 3: and it's all I wanted to talk about. So I'm
- 33:22Speaker 3: ad marches and I'm giving speeches and I'm doing all
- 33:24Speaker 3: these things. And so I took off for that period
- 33:27Speaker 3: of time and so then we kind of swung back
- 33:29Speaker 3: around and I started up again in the studio and
- 33:32Speaker 3: I just started getting like these ideas of people like
- 33:34Speaker 3: I wanted to put on, like people I wanted to
- 33:36Speaker 3: talk to, and because it was like my thing, I
- 33:39Speaker 3: was like I can talk to whoever the hell I want, right,
- 33:41Speaker 3: But it was just all people, if you know. Like
- 33:43Speaker 3: I had my best friend on who wrapped and we
- 33:45Speaker 3: made an album, and the dude that does all my videography,
- 33:48Speaker 3: I had him on and we did a show. And
- 33:51Speaker 3: then I did a show about like undrafted guys cause
- 33:53Speaker 3: we're undrafted, and it was like, it'll be cool for
- 33:55Speaker 3: people to hear these stories some dudes who aren't drafted.
- 33:57Speaker 3: And it was the shaser ever than Mike Ford, people
- 33:59Speaker 3: who I trained, and so it was like, I want
- 34:01Speaker 3: to put them out that.
- 34:01Speaker 2: I want people to see them.
- 34:02Speaker 3: All the safeties that were on that show that like
- 34:04Speaker 3: all my guys, like I train them all. Obviously, the
- 34:07Speaker 3: the Troy thing was kind of like the biggest thing
- 34:10Speaker 3: for me. He's one of my closest friends. He's definitely
- 34:13Speaker 3: the best friend I have from my playing days, and
- 34:16Speaker 3: he don't ever talk publicly.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Right, He's never out there unless you see it heading Shulders.
- 34:22Speaker 3: And I think, and he's like one of the most
- 34:26Speaker 3: He's like one of the more naturally intelligent people I've
- 34:29Speaker 3: been around. Like if he's around it and he absorbs it,
- 34:32Speaker 3: he could regurgitate it in a way that other people
- 34:34Speaker 3: don't think. Like on that podcast, Bro, I don't know
- 34:36Speaker 3: if you finished it, he talks about when he knew
- 34:40Speaker 3: it was over.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that yeah, I love that part, just.
- 34:42Speaker 3: Crazy right, Like I knew it was over because Jordan
- 34:44Speaker 3: had to go open the door every Saturday in Virginia
- 34:47Speaker 3: for the barber because I couldn't get down the stairs
- 34:49Speaker 3: on Saturday.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Like that was George's son, George my son, Like that's
- 34:52Speaker 2: how I knew that.
- 34:53Speaker 3: And when he said that, I was like, Bro, that
- 34:55Speaker 3: was like low key, like the greatest flex of all time?
- 34:57Speaker 2: Right? Can you tell everybody what U? Yeah? So so what?
- 35:00Speaker 1: So you can find this on face first podcast too
- 35:02Speaker 1: to listen to Troy say it.
- 35:03Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's on you know, it's on on face
- 35:06Speaker 3: first podcast, Instagram, it's on the Twitter, you'll see it.
- 35:09Speaker 3: So he basically said he was in a position where
- 35:11Speaker 3: he felt like he created and innovate and make moves
- 35:14Speaker 3: in the defense. Right, he had he had a job,
- 35:16Speaker 3: but he knew he could switch that job and try
- 35:18Speaker 3: to make a play.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Go from the A gap to half field, right, and
- 35:21Speaker 2: he goes.
- 35:22Speaker 3: He's like, and then I thought about it. I had
- 35:24Speaker 3: no more moves. He's like, I had been in the
- 35:25Speaker 3: A gap and went to the half. He's like, I
- 35:28Speaker 3: had moved the d N around, I moved the nickel,
- 35:30Speaker 3: I played corner, I played safety. He was like, there
- 35:32Speaker 3: was nothing left.
- 35:33Speaker 2: For me to do. I jumped over the line of screen, right.
- 35:35Speaker 3: And so I'm sitting there listening to him and like
- 35:38Speaker 3: I'm saying.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Right right, and I sound like an idiot.
- 35:40Speaker 3: I'm like, right right, But I don't get it, you
- 35:43Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, it's not it's not processing
- 35:46Speaker 3: to me that you played in such a complex defense,
- 35:50Speaker 3: You've done all of these things that you truly feel
- 35:53Speaker 3: just mentally. It wasn't even physically he felt mentally there
- 35:57Speaker 3: was nowhere else to go. And that was like that
- 36:00Speaker 3: that was a moment that I learned something about it.
- 36:03Speaker 3: And like we talk all the time, you know what
- 36:05Speaker 3: I mean, Like like our relationship and my you know,
- 36:09Speaker 3: my wife used to make fun of us. She's like, oh,
- 36:11Speaker 3: did you call Troy's hair today? Like our relationship, No,
- 36:13Speaker 3: I did. Our relationship was one of those like really
- 36:16Speaker 3: strange relationships. Like he would always go home and see
- 36:19Speaker 3: his family for home games, right, and I would stay
- 36:23Speaker 3: at the hotel because like the hotel is for married people,
- 36:26Speaker 3: so you can get away from responsibility, yeah, you know,
- 36:29Speaker 3: and so bro and so if we had a one
- 36:30Speaker 3: o'clock game, Troy would peak me up from the hotel
- 36:34Speaker 3: at like seven thirty eight o'clock. We'd go over and guys,
- 36:37Speaker 3: don't like I'm gonna try to say this so it
- 36:39Speaker 3: doesn't sound as funny. So I'm just gonna pause it now,
- 36:41Speaker 3: pause right for the rest of the conversation. Okay, we'd
- 36:45Speaker 3: get to the stadium, bro, we both like get.
- 36:47Speaker 2: Us pause podcast.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Like we'd get to the stadium. We get
- 36:53Speaker 3: to the stadium, like we set all our stuff up,
- 36:55Speaker 3: like our supplements, our drinks, whatever. They ever put our shoulder,
- 36:57Speaker 3: you know, get our shoulder pass ready. I would make
- 36:59Speaker 3: a towels. I would make towels for our pants. Troy's
- 37:02Speaker 3: not fancy like that, but he liked the towel. Right, yeah,
- 37:05Speaker 3: so I do my towel, I do his. We put
- 37:07Speaker 3: him up whatever. He'd read the Bible. I'd read and
- 37:10Speaker 3: then he would like walk past you like you're ready,
- 37:12Speaker 3: and we would go. They had two hot tubs. We'd
- 37:15Speaker 3: sit bast each other, talk in the hot tubs whatever whatever.
- 37:17Speaker 3: Then we'd shower. He'd put his clothes and I put
- 37:20Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying. No pause, yeah, I pause
- 37:22Speaker 3: the beginning, and we shower. We'd get dressed. We dap
- 37:26Speaker 3: each other off, hug each other, and we say I
- 37:28Speaker 3: see you when the game starts, and like we'd separate,
- 37:30Speaker 3: do our thing, and then before every game we'd hug,
- 37:33Speaker 3: we talk and we say one more of many more.
- 37:35Speaker 3: Because that's what we started our first year starting together,
- 37:38Speaker 3: and we felt like we could do that for a
- 37:40Speaker 3: very long time, like that's what we would do and
- 37:42Speaker 3: so and so, like we just had this relationship that
- 37:45Speaker 3: was different. And then there was Ike, who was totally
- 37:48Speaker 3: different from both of us, Like we were both married,
- 37:50Speaker 3: we both had kids. Ike is like this dude from
- 37:53Speaker 3: New Orleans who favorite saying is eye contact, get you
- 37:55Speaker 3: instant beef, you know, like I could, I could get
- 37:59Speaker 3: it to it people during the game and then like
- 38:01Speaker 3: if he saw you know, all season, it was not over,
- 38:03Speaker 3: like We're not gonna have a drink, none of that.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Like let's square up. Like that's how he is.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Like now he boxes, like he goes to these different
- 38:09Speaker 3: boxing gyms and spars with people who actually box, like
- 38:12Speaker 3: that's who he is. And so to get all those
- 38:14Speaker 3: people together, man and do that, like that was a
- 38:16Speaker 3: dream for me. And I would have to text and
- 38:18Speaker 3: like Troy is one of those people that like don't
- 38:21Speaker 3: ever have a phone, Like he has a phone, but
- 38:23Speaker 3: he ain't worried about it. So I text him like, hey, bro,
- 38:25Speaker 3: let's do this podcast. He'd be like, two weeks later,
- 38:28Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Bro, I didn't see that the messages we
- 38:30Speaker 3: could do whatever. And then I text him like, hey, man,
- 38:32Speaker 3: Ike's in And a week later he was like, Okay,
- 38:34Speaker 3: is Ike still coming? And I was like, yes, Troy,
- 38:36Speaker 3: We're gonna be there on Monday, Bro, And so we
- 38:38Speaker 3: go and that's how it happens. And so now I
- 38:40Speaker 3: got one coming out this Friday with James Harrison.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that, you know what I mean.
- 38:45Speaker 3: And it's like, and I have I truly, I can
- 38:48Speaker 3: be honest with you. I don't know if I have
- 38:50Speaker 3: a goal or even a direction. Like I have a
- 38:53Speaker 3: marketing lady now, which is super weird, you know, and
- 38:56Speaker 3: she's like, well, we got to do this with it
- 38:57Speaker 3: and do that, and I was like, nah, I just
- 38:59Speaker 3: want to do shows. And I think that's what it's
- 39:01Speaker 3: going to be for the time being, because I don't
- 39:04Speaker 3: know what the sweet spot is for it yet.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that.
- 39:08Speaker 3: Makes sense, and so we'll see where have you gain
- 39:10Speaker 3: gotten like obviously busting with the boys, But where else
- 39:13Speaker 3: have you gotten inspiration from?
- 39:15Speaker 2: Obviously busting podcasting?
- 39:17Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like too, Like, I think
- 39:19Speaker 1: it's cool because I've been trying to get him on
- 39:21Speaker 1: so you can hook it up.
- 39:22Speaker 2: That'd be awesome too.
- 39:23Speaker 1: But watching I Am Athlete as well, I saw you
- 39:25Speaker 1: going that you were there when my boy Levante was
- 39:27Speaker 1: on our So I feel like what Brandon and them
- 39:30Speaker 1: do is is dope because of the production setup. I
- 39:33Speaker 1: feel like that just builds on the inspiration of guys
- 39:35Speaker 1: who want to do stuff.
- 39:36Speaker 2: Yeah, that's somewhere I grab now, No, that's that. That
- 39:39Speaker 2: that's crazy.
- 39:40Speaker 3: Alicia, who produces it, you know, is like different level though,
- 39:45Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
- 39:46Speaker 2: It's like it's I felt they have rolling credits at
- 39:51Speaker 2: the end of the show. Bro I felt.
- 39:52Speaker 3: I mean, I felt super TV stupid riding over with
- 39:56Speaker 3: her to do it because she produced. So they did
- 39:59Speaker 3: like a Path to the drast a House of Athletes,
- 40:01Speaker 3: you know, I trained. The DB's there and like we're
- 40:03Speaker 3: going over. She's talking about the hard knocks and she's
- 40:05Speaker 3: talking about the showtimes like twenty four. She did all
- 40:08Speaker 3: of Floyd stuff, And the way she got to doing
- 40:11Speaker 3: Floyd stuff was was she did Koto stuff when he
- 40:14Speaker 3: was fighting Floyd, and Floyd is like, get me her
- 40:16Speaker 3: because she had me thinking that mother effort was gonna
- 40:18Speaker 3: beat me. Like She's like good like that, you know
- 40:20Speaker 3: what I mean. So well, it's just it's just such
- 40:23Speaker 3: a top notch team. And I remember going to do it,
- 40:26Speaker 3: and obviously so Chad wasn't there, so I was basically
- 40:28Speaker 3: taking Chad's place, but Dwayne Wade was there, and i'ma
- 40:31Speaker 3: be honest with you, Like I walked in the building,
- 40:33Speaker 3: I said on the show, I had like I had
- 40:35Speaker 3: one plan. I was gonna talk more than everybody, but
- 40:38Speaker 3: d Wade. That's it. Like Brandon wasn't gonna talk more
- 40:41Speaker 3: than me, Shanning Fred, none of those. Like if I'm
- 40:44Speaker 3: here one time, I'm gonna get it in. But what
- 40:46Speaker 3: they're doing. I think what they're doing is different because
- 40:49Speaker 3: they have a great group of dudes and they they
- 40:53Speaker 3: talk like friends. They like that they go in obviously
- 40:56Speaker 3: with the topic and it's easier when they have a guess,
- 40:59Speaker 3: but what they're feeling they share, and I think people
- 41:02Speaker 3: gravitate toward that. And it helps when you have somebody
- 41:05Speaker 3: like Brandon who's had such public struggles with mental health.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has what a borderline personality disorder.
- 41:12Speaker 3: Something I don't want to misquote it. I know I've
- 41:15Speaker 3: tried talking about it before too, and I'm just like,
- 41:17Speaker 3: I don't want to go too what you do because
- 41:18Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. But you know, he's
- 41:21Speaker 3: very he's very honest about it. He's very open about it.
- 41:23Speaker 3: He does a lot of service and activism with it.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And so to have somebody like that who's already been
- 41:29Speaker 3: so vulnerable allows the rest of the people on the
- 41:32Speaker 3: show to be And I think that's you know, like
- 41:34Speaker 3: that's a huge thing. I can't I don't necessarily know
- 41:37Speaker 3: if I want my show to go in that direction,
- 41:40Speaker 3: because the other piece of it is like it's only me,
- 41:43Speaker 3: you know, like like it's different if you get to
- 41:45Speaker 3: and so you do a lot of things, yeah, and
- 41:48Speaker 3: so it's it's different if you get to like if
- 41:50Speaker 3: you're talking to the same group of dudes, you know,
- 41:53Speaker 3: like the thing like you and Taylor, y'all obviously have
- 41:56Speaker 3: like this great dynamic because y'all do it all the time,
- 41:59Speaker 3: and then when somebody else comes on, it's like y'all
- 42:01Speaker 3: too because y'all the boys and somebody else is on
- 42:03Speaker 3: the bus and y'all kind of let them get it.
- 42:05Speaker 3: But y'all still throw in who you guys are. I
- 42:08Speaker 3: don't necessarily know like how that dynamic starts.
- 42:11Speaker 1: For me and with them too, they got I feel
- 42:13Speaker 1: like they started to take off on Ocho got added
- 42:15Speaker 1: to the to the whole segment that was, I mean,
- 42:17Speaker 1: you got you got, you got some known players who
- 42:19Speaker 1: are all sitting around each other talking and when you
- 42:21Speaker 1: got a character or personality like Ocho.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Like can't lose.
- 42:24Speaker 3: You can't lose because remember when it started, it was
- 42:28Speaker 3: Reggie Wayne.
- 42:29Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's right.
- 42:30Speaker 3: Remember when so when it started it was Reggie Wayne.
- 42:33Speaker 3: And I think when you add the right people to
- 42:35Speaker 3: stuff and they get start and you start saying, okay,
- 42:37Speaker 3: like Chad, like Chad was Ocho Sinko playing football, you know,
- 42:42Speaker 3: so let's get him doing what he what he does
- 42:45Speaker 3: and just film it and that's what and that's what happens.
- 42:47Speaker 3: And it's been it's been magic. Man, Like I'm really
- 42:49Speaker 3: excited for those dudes. I'm happy for him because it
- 42:52Speaker 3: also carves a different lane. And like the way I
- 42:55Speaker 3: look at it is like this, right, if if you
- 42:58Speaker 3: play linebacker or if I play safety, which we did
- 43:01Speaker 3: and say we are really good players, and the top
- 43:05Speaker 3: dude gets two hundred million. I'm not mad at him, right,
- 43:10Speaker 3: I'm glad that you've made the number there because now
- 43:12Speaker 3: when they look at me and they say, oh, you're
- 43:14Speaker 3: a pro bowler, Okay, you're a starter for this long,
- 43:17Speaker 3: you definitely ain't worth two hundred million. But you know
- 43:19Speaker 3: what I can give you eighty Where do I sign?
- 43:23Speaker 2: Right? Right?
- 43:24Speaker 3: And that's what they're doing. They're elevating the game. They're
- 43:26Speaker 3: making the podcast game different, and you can watch the
- 43:29Speaker 3: moves they make, you can watch the way they do shows,
- 43:31Speaker 3: and then now you can pull from that what works
- 43:34Speaker 3: for you and continue to build your brand. And so
- 43:37Speaker 3: definitely shout out to be Marsh and those boys for
- 43:39Speaker 3: what they're doing. And it was great to be on it.
- 43:41Speaker 3: That's why with my red jackets, so people remembered.
- 43:43Speaker 2: Hell yeah too.
- 43:44Speaker 1: And Levante he was so funny because I knew when
- 43:47Speaker 1: I saw him post picture of d Wade, I was like, oh,
- 43:48Speaker 1: this dude, I know he went from six to midnight
- 43:51Speaker 1: when he saw d Wade playing basketball.
- 43:54Speaker 2: Six to midnight. That's a penis joke. Yeah, six to midnight,
- 43:58Speaker 2: never heard it. There you have it.
- 44:01Speaker 3: You see how you don't understand the black thing. I
- 44:03Speaker 3: don't get that way.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Black. That's what happens.
- 44:08Speaker 3: I work with baseball, Like one of my partners a
- 44:10Speaker 3: baseball player, Bro, and uh, they're fascinated with that part
- 44:14Speaker 3: of the body for some reason. And and they say
- 44:17Speaker 3: they in baseball. Yes, I mean I feel like football players. Yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 3: but they say some stuff sometimes, Bro, And I'm like, wow,
- 44:23Speaker 3: I don't get that, but it sounds wrong.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Y'all can go and keep that conversation. Have they has?
- 44:31Speaker 2: I am a Have they monetized that yet? You know?
- 44:34Speaker 2: I don't.
- 44:35Speaker 3: I don't know because Bro Brandon has Brandon has uh
- 44:38Speaker 3: has has has?
- 44:39Speaker 2: I know he has other brand.
- 44:40Speaker 3: He has big brain mentality in long term thinking. Yes,
- 44:44Speaker 3: because one yeah, realized he made a ton of money.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Right enough, Like because I don't know if you've ever
- 44:50Speaker 1: met Quincy and none, Well, he used he was a receiver.
- 44:52Speaker 1: He ended up getting paid there before he got injured.
- 44:55Speaker 1: But he played with b marsh And I'm tired with
- 44:57Speaker 1: Quincy And I was like, hey, what's up B Marshal
- 44:59Speaker 1: because I was trying to get in touch with him.
- 45:01Speaker 1: He's like, Bro, like he's all time, Like he's somebody
- 45:03Speaker 1: who works extremely hard when he gets done with practice
- 45:06Speaker 1: and say he have a helicopter and take a helicopter
- 45:08Speaker 1: to go do you know TV or whatever the case
- 45:10Speaker 1: may be. So just talks about how much work he
- 45:12Speaker 1: puts in this stuff, like House of Athlete all this stuff.
- 45:16Speaker 3: It's so crazy. It's so crazy because he thinks we're alike,
- 45:20Speaker 3: but we're not.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
- 45:22Speaker 3: So, so I was the first one to do the
- 45:26Speaker 3: TV while playing thing. He was the second. Okay, yeah, Lane,
- 45:31Speaker 3: yes and so and so he was like yeah, or
- 45:33Speaker 3: see you know he was talking to me about it,
- 45:34Speaker 3: and I'll be like, b we're not actually the same.
- 45:37Speaker 3: And then like even with the gym, he talked to
- 45:40Speaker 3: me about like House of Athletes like five years ago
- 45:43Speaker 3: and doing that, and I was like, I don't really
- 45:45Speaker 3: know if I like. I think he has such a
- 45:48Speaker 3: like I have a real like workers mentality. He has
- 45:51Speaker 3: a very heavy boss mentality. Like he likes to he
- 45:55Speaker 3: likes to delegate, like he likes to create and I
- 45:59Speaker 3: like to and I like to create in a sense
- 46:02Speaker 3: of I like to create for me like I like to.
- 46:04Speaker 3: I like to feel good about doing things like he
- 46:07Speaker 3: likes to create on such a mass scale.
- 46:09Speaker 2: You like to be boots on the ground. You like
- 46:11Speaker 2: to be yeah time.
- 46:13Speaker 3: Right and so and so, Like I think that's gonna
- 46:15Speaker 3: be the beauty of House of Athletes for him and
- 46:18Speaker 3: of I am athlete, because he's not going to be
- 46:20Speaker 3: in the rush, like like he's he's gonna understand and
- 46:23Speaker 3: see like this is like this is where I want
- 46:26Speaker 3: to go, And until he gets there, he's not going
- 46:29Speaker 3: to do anything with it. He's not going to rush himself.
- 46:31Speaker 3: And I think that's the same thing that happened with
- 46:33Speaker 3: House of Athletes. Like he was building and building and
- 46:35Speaker 3: building and putting in architecture and putting in and looking
- 46:39Speaker 3: for the right staff and to do the right things
- 46:42Speaker 3: and and finally it got to where he wanted it
- 46:45Speaker 3: and he did it. Morgan Wells, who is the head
- 46:48Speaker 3: of his like pro uh pro department, right, used to
- 46:52Speaker 3: work for me and like this dude man had brain
- 46:54Speaker 3: surgery at LSU. He ran hurdles uh he's where he
- 46:58Speaker 3: worked at LSU. Then he worked at Traction for me
- 47:01Speaker 3: with dB Precision. Then he went to XOS, then he
- 47:03Speaker 3: went to IMG and Brandon was like after him, after him,
- 47:06Speaker 3: after him, after him, and he meant it. He was like,
- 47:09Speaker 3: I'm gonna get him, you know. And then he gets
- 47:11Speaker 3: to him and he has one of the largest combine
- 47:14Speaker 3: classes in the country, one of the best combined classes
- 47:18Speaker 3: in the country. You do path to the draft, you
- 47:19Speaker 3: do all these things, and he's so meticulous about each
- 47:22Speaker 3: step that I think, you know, he is a good
- 47:25Speaker 3: one to follow, not just based on what the podcast is,
- 47:28Speaker 3: but based on the business.
- 47:30Speaker 2: Absolutely he's smart. You can tell he's like he has
- 47:34Speaker 2: freedom about not being in a rush for.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Anything, no idea about NBA contracts, what he was getting.
- 47:43Speaker 3: He is such a large human like people don't get it.
- 47:47Speaker 3: Like I got a picture with him from there, and you.
- 47:49Speaker 2: See that he boxed. I don't know how well he boys,
- 47:50Speaker 2: but enough for me to just be like.
- 47:52Speaker 3: Not to fight him. Yeah, right, Sure, I'm hitting him.
- 47:54Speaker 3: I'm hitting him with something out there gate and you
- 47:57Speaker 3: gotta swing first too. But I've been talking to d
- 47:59Speaker 3: C about different holes and different submissions, and that's more
- 48:03Speaker 3: so where my fight game is going in my forties.
- 48:08Speaker 2: Speaking of fight game, are you ready to read? Are
- 48:10Speaker 2: you ready to do an ad?
- 48:11Speaker 1: Don't get to do an ad show, showtime, pay per view.
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- 48:16Speaker 3: There. That's a very long ad to do, am I do?
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- 49:42Speaker 3: So if you got three twenties, you got enough money
- 49:45Speaker 3: to buy the pay per view and if you can,
- 49:47Speaker 3: let me know what happened, because I might not be
- 49:50Speaker 3: able to watch it because it's on the twenty ninth
- 49:51Speaker 3: and gotta go do something.
- 49:53Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, that was a phenomenal ad read well, thank you.
- 49:56Speaker 1: You know, do you have a lot of teleprompter stuff
- 49:58Speaker 1: with like with the TV that you do?
- 50:01Speaker 3: So I finally got I got with this producer named
- 50:04Speaker 3: Artie and he kind of saw me, uh like differently
- 50:08Speaker 3: than just a football player, which is always a thing.
- 50:10Speaker 1: And so he was always always, man, I didn't know
- 50:13Speaker 1: you were like this. I didn't know that you had
- 50:14Speaker 1: this side of you.
- 50:15Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so one day, one day we were on
- 50:18Speaker 3: and they were doing like the Top ten, and it
- 50:20Speaker 3: was like our cee, you were involved in the top ten.
- 50:21Speaker 3: So I get to talk like basketball, soccer, all these things,
- 50:24Speaker 3: and like sometimes like I mess up names because like
- 50:26Speaker 3: some of the names are weird, you know, but they
- 50:29Speaker 3: just laugh about it. Had not everybody has two first names.
- 50:32Speaker 3: Ryan Clark very simple, very simple. It's like I remember
- 50:35Speaker 3: and just off the subject, a recruiter comes down. I
- 50:37Speaker 3: went to a Catholic school, predominantly white. Recruiter comes down.
- 50:40Speaker 3: They tell him Ryan Clark is down there, and he
- 50:42Speaker 3: didn't know it was me because he's looking for a
- 50:43Speaker 3: white boy. But anyway, so and so and so, you know.
- 50:47Speaker 3: So he was like, we're gonna start letting you read
- 50:49Speaker 3: your bumps. But but they wouldn't let me write them.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Obviously they were just written for me and I would
- 50:54Speaker 3: have bumped. Sorry, So Bump said, so say say after say,
- 50:58Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys and Dak
- 51:02Speaker 3: Prescott's contract in the next segment. Okay, and they they
- 51:07Speaker 3: might What they might do is say still hand a
- 51:09Speaker 3: storm and be like and coming up Ryan Clark talked
- 51:11Speaker 3: about such and such. But they would let me do
- 51:12Speaker 3: it for myself, right, So I'd be like, coming in
- 51:15Speaker 3: the show, I'm going to talk about Dak Prescott. He
- 51:18Speaker 3: got one hundred and forty ms. What is Ezekiel Elliott
- 51:21Speaker 3: gonna do? And now what does this put the Cowboys
- 51:23Speaker 3: in the next season?
- 51:24Speaker 2: Okay?
- 51:24Speaker 3: And so they write it for me, but they'd write
- 51:26Speaker 3: it in like, you know, forty five year old white
- 51:31Speaker 3: man boys, you know what I'm saying, and so and
- 51:33Speaker 3: so like cornball heads boys, you know what I'm saying,
- 51:36Speaker 3: you know, And so like in reading it, I'd be like, guys,
- 51:38Speaker 3: like that ain't me. And so the first time I
- 51:41Speaker 3: did it, you know, I kind of just bounced around
- 51:43Speaker 3: like that and did it, and it was like every time,
- 51:45Speaker 3: that's it. That's the way you read it every time
- 51:47Speaker 3: from now on. And so like that you get to
- 51:49Speaker 3: do to do that type of prompter stuff. When Troy retired,
- 51:52Speaker 3: they let me write this piece up for him, and
- 51:55Speaker 3: I did that. And when I did that, I was
- 51:57Speaker 3: in the prompter. But they don't really give us like
- 52:00Speaker 3: those kind of opportunities. Which is the cool thing, Like,
- 52:03Speaker 3: which would be the cool thing for you hosting this show,
- 52:06Speaker 3: It's not become the cool thing with me. Having a
- 52:09Speaker 3: show with DC is like I get to read as
- 52:12Speaker 3: and I get to do bumps and do these different things.
- 52:16Speaker 3: John Saunders when he was at ESPN before he passed,
- 52:22Speaker 3: had a meeting. We had a meeting, you know, Like
- 52:24Speaker 3: I got a call It's like John Saunders wants to
- 52:26Speaker 3: meet you, and I was like why, Like it's like
- 52:29Speaker 3: he's like big time, yeah, Like what is why would
- 52:31Speaker 3: he ever want to talk to me? And he sits
- 52:33Speaker 3: me down and he goes, don't let them box you
- 52:36Speaker 3: into just being a football player. And at the time,
- 52:39Speaker 3: like I didn't really understand it. I's like, well, I
- 52:41Speaker 3: am a football player. But he was just basically saying
- 52:44Speaker 3: like you are talented enough to do all of these
- 52:48Speaker 3: things and you should do your best to try. And
- 52:52Speaker 3: that's that was like another thing with the podcast. It
- 52:55Speaker 3: was like I'm always doing the same thing. I'm basically
- 52:58Speaker 3: doing other people's right, Like this producer wants you to
- 53:02Speaker 3: talk about this, so you go talk about it. I
- 53:04Speaker 3: wanted to be in a space where I wrote the content.
- 53:08Speaker 3: I wrote the questions. I've decided how the show was
- 53:11Speaker 3: going to go. I controlled flow and that's what I do.
- 53:14Speaker 3: And like the cool part about it too, is like
- 53:16Speaker 3: one time I went on and talked about when I
- 53:17Speaker 3: almost drowned in Mexico. I had nothing to do with sports,
- 53:21Speaker 3: you know. Another time I went on because I've been
- 53:23Speaker 3: in Mexico twice this year. Another time I went on
- 53:26Speaker 3: and I talked about when I was going to fight
- 53:27Speaker 3: this dude to the pool in Mexico. Nothing to do
- 53:30Speaker 3: with sports, but guess what, can't nobody tell me nothing
- 53:33Speaker 3: because it's my show, right, And like that's the cool part.
- 53:36Speaker 1: So going into you doing other segments because I didn't
- 53:39Speaker 1: want to get too far away from the fight game.
- 53:41Speaker 1: You are now in that new MMA community, working with
- 53:44Speaker 1: somebody like Daniel Cormier who's one of the ghats. How
- 53:47Speaker 1: did what was the motivation behind that? Like what made
- 53:50Speaker 1: you want to get into that? Is that something you're
- 53:51Speaker 1: very interested in? Yeah, so talk about how you got
- 53:54Speaker 1: motivated on getting into that, getting that spot and then
- 53:57Speaker 1: obviously now that you're in it, like battling at the MMA,
- 54:00Speaker 1: because you don't know enough about it because you played
- 54:01Speaker 1: Football said.
- 54:02Speaker 3: First, the first thing is I often laugh because the
- 54:06Speaker 3: dude tweeting me or dming me is probably like me.
- 54:11Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, the sense of his fandom
- 54:13Speaker 3: for the UFC, you know what I mean.
- 54:16Speaker 2: I got.
- 54:16Speaker 3: I still have like the Ultimate Fighting Knockouts DVDs that
- 54:20Speaker 3: I used to watch, like back in the early two thousands,
- 54:23Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
- 54:24Speaker 2: There's no weight classes. Yeah, like people fight, just a
- 54:26Speaker 2: huge tournament.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Yeah, like one dude got on boots and another dude
- 54:29Speaker 3: got on a G But the dude in the GI
- 54:31Speaker 3: is three forty, the dude in the boots is one sixty,
- 54:33Speaker 3: you know. And like Gracie wins those joints, you know
- 54:35Speaker 3: what I mean.
- 54:36Speaker 2: And then and like.
- 54:37Speaker 3: My first like my first favorite fighter was Chuck Ladell,
- 54:40Speaker 3: and I just because I just always thought he was
- 54:41Speaker 3: super cool because he was built like that and he
- 54:43Speaker 3: could knock people out right, you know. And so like
- 54:46Speaker 3: I remember, like my first championship fight was Coulture Ladell won,
- 54:51Speaker 3: and Katur wins it, you know, but then it comes
- 54:53Speaker 3: back and then you know, so I just loved all
- 54:55Speaker 3: of it since then, and I just followed it. And
- 54:57Speaker 3: so in the off season, like I would training Kempo
- 55:00Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. I do kim poe a stand up, I
- 55:02Speaker 3: do jiu jitsu, I grapple, and I used to work
- 55:05Speaker 3: on my tackling all the time, so like double a
- 55:06Speaker 3: single ags and like I just always loved it and
- 55:08Speaker 3: it was fascinated with it. And then as it evolves,
- 55:11Speaker 3: you get a guy like John Jones who's this amazing,
- 55:13Speaker 3: amazing athlete. Both his brothers played football, Anderson Silva right
- 55:17Speaker 3: like you see all these dudes, George Saint Pierre, and
- 55:19Speaker 3: I just fell in love with it, so I would
- 55:20Speaker 3: follow it, and then it became this game of can
- 55:24Speaker 3: I get my tweet on TV?
- 55:26Speaker 2: Right?
- 55:27Speaker 1: Like that the UFC sometimes all hashtag, like everybody's gonna
- 55:31Speaker 1: know I'm trying to get on the TV right now.
- 55:33Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So and so like I
- 55:35Speaker 3: am that type of tweeter, like like that's how I
- 55:37Speaker 3: got I got a section on get up a segment
- 55:39Speaker 3: that's explain your tweet because I like to because that's
- 55:42Speaker 3: how I talk to the world or have conversation because
- 55:45Speaker 3: I ain't nobody in my house watching the fight, Like
- 55:46Speaker 3: my son's gone, he'll text me or facetiming when somebody
- 55:49Speaker 3: gets put to sleep, but I'm by myself in the front,
- 55:52Speaker 3: and that's how like I get interaction with people like oh,
- 55:54Speaker 3: you know, and so like that would happen, that would
- 55:57Speaker 3: happen in my boss Seth markm who run NFL. He
- 56:01Speaker 3: was like, bro, you really love this jump, don't you?
- 56:03Speaker 3: And I was like yes. And so when I did
- 56:06Speaker 3: my new deal, did you ever get on TV all
- 56:08Speaker 3: the time? I pretty much made like everyone even before
- 56:11Speaker 3: I got the job, yeah, and so yeah and so yeah,
- 56:16Speaker 3: because like when the one time, like probably about during
- 56:20Speaker 3: like the during COVID, I tweeted it one time.
- 56:22Speaker 2: I was like, bro, how much do y'all think DC ways?
- 56:26Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 56:26Speaker 3: This is before I had a show with him, and
- 56:28Speaker 3: he like tweeted me back. He was like, man, I'm retired, bro,
- 56:30Speaker 3: you know what I mean, gumbo jump a live or
- 56:32Speaker 3: whatever to answer that question right. And so I got
- 56:34Speaker 3: to I got a pilot. So in my deal, I
- 56:37Speaker 3: was going to get a pilot. So say say I
- 56:39Speaker 3: wanted to do Say. I was like I could have
- 56:40Speaker 3: called you and been like, hey, man, ESPN Plus wants
- 56:43Speaker 3: me to do a show like I love to do
- 56:45Speaker 3: some form of busting with the boys. Can I come
- 56:46Speaker 3: talk to you, chop it up about how y'all do it?
- 56:48Speaker 3: Produce it, talk to your people. I could have went
- 56:50Speaker 3: to ESPN and say, you know, yeah, like I want
- 56:52Speaker 3: to do a show something like this, but I had
- 56:55Speaker 3: to find the making of where I had to find
- 56:57Speaker 3: my people to do it. And so what happened Ario least, Yeah,
- 57:02Speaker 3: that's what. And they give DC a list of names,
- 57:05Speaker 3: and I guess none of the people were of the
- 57:07Speaker 3: m m A community though, right, So it was like
- 57:10Speaker 3: actors like other analysts. But they wanted the show to
- 57:13Speaker 3: like broaden his reach. And they wanted because obviously you
- 57:16Speaker 3: got DC, like if you want real fighting out like
- 57:19Speaker 3: the dude does detail like Peyton Manning does detail.
- 57:21Speaker 2: He's crazy.
- 57:21Speaker 3: He's crazy good, right And so uh And so I
- 57:24Speaker 3: met d C probably four four years ago or so
- 57:27Speaker 3: in the airport. We're walking through Atlanta and he's like, Ryan,
- 57:30Speaker 3: what's up? And we're talking and like I remember walking
- 57:33Speaker 3: away and calling my son Jordan. I was like, Jordan,
- 57:37Speaker 3: you what I was like, Bro, Damn call me and
- 57:39Speaker 3: knows who I am?
- 57:40Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I was like, I was like,
- 57:42Speaker 2: your dad might be a star, you know what I mean.
- 57:44Speaker 3: So and so like he picked me, man, and and
- 57:47Speaker 3: my my boss called me. He's kind of running down
- 57:49Speaker 3: my schedule for the season. And he goes, oh, one
- 57:52Speaker 3: more thing. There's this DC uh is getting a new
- 57:58Speaker 3: part and he needs a new show. They want you
- 57:59Speaker 3: to do ESPN Plus in the podcast with him, do
- 58:02Speaker 3: you want to do it? And I was like yeah, man,
- 58:05Speaker 3: you know, I'm fired.
- 58:06Speaker 2: Up, and like I'm yeah, I do it.
- 58:08Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, and so they're trying to
- 58:11Speaker 3: start it live in Vegas, like there's some fight in
- 58:14Speaker 3: early July. I was like, oh McGregor Pourier and I
- 58:17Speaker 3: was like yeah, Like they want you to be there
- 58:18Speaker 3: to start the show then, and like go to the
- 58:20Speaker 3: fight and stuff. I was like, man, you know, it's
- 58:22Speaker 3: like whatever the network needs, bro, like that sh the brand.
- 58:25Speaker 3: I was like, that's what they need me to do.
- 58:27Speaker 3: And you know, I'll just make myself available, like I
- 58:29Speaker 3: have some things, but yeah, I'll move bro. I hung
- 58:32Speaker 3: that like I hung that phone up. I was chumping,
- 58:37Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so and so, bro
- 58:39Speaker 3: and so like we do the first one and I
- 58:41Speaker 3: think it's really good, right, Yeah, I was like, I'm
- 58:43Speaker 3: talking about studied, bro, Like I'm watching like all kinds
- 58:46Speaker 3: of old fights, like I'm really into.
- 58:48Speaker 2: It and we do it.
- 58:49Speaker 1: I was like, here, you're about to take the old
- 58:51Speaker 1: mentality of like Okay, I got to show the MMA
- 58:53Speaker 1: community that I'm I'm smart.
- 58:54Speaker 3: But see, no, not even that though, because the cool
- 58:57Speaker 3: thing was like d C, DC put me at ease
- 58:59Speaker 3: with this bro. He was like he was like RC
- 59:01Speaker 3: because I was because I was like the whole time
- 59:03Speaker 3: on the production meetings, I'm down playing myself like DC,
- 59:06Speaker 3: I'm not gonna try to like yeah, yeah, I'm gonna
- 59:09Speaker 3: try to analyze bro, like I.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Know that's you.
- 59:11Speaker 3: Like, I just want to come from a perspective of
- 59:12Speaker 3: somebody that loves it, you know. And he was like,
- 59:15Speaker 3: shut that up, bro. He was like, nah, he's like
- 59:17Speaker 3: you coming at this from an elite level athlete standpoint.
- 59:21Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, you're a fan, but you understand
- 59:23Speaker 3: what it's like to be championship ready, Like you understand
- 59:26Speaker 3: what it's like to win championships. And he's like, and
- 59:28Speaker 3: that's the He's like, and that's the way you're gonna
- 59:30Speaker 3: come at the fight. And he was like, nah, you
- 59:32Speaker 3: ain't got to analyze whether or not the submission was
- 59:34Speaker 3: done right or or what hold he uses. But you
- 59:37Speaker 3: know what it's like to walk in to a training
- 59:40Speaker 3: camp trying to prepare for something.
- 59:41Speaker 2: So he kind of put me at what I'm saying.
- 59:45Speaker 3: I was fired up, and so we do the show
- 59:47Speaker 3: bro and everybody freaking hates me. Hey, I'm talking about
- 59:53Speaker 3: will I walked off like man that Joe was good. Man,
- 59:57Speaker 3: Like they gonna feel me. But then, you know the
- 59:59Speaker 3: mm commune, especially since it's going to ESPN because their
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: ESPN is trying to broaden the reach of it. Obviously
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: Dana wants to broaden the reach of it. It's like
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: Steven Age's doing it. And it's such a like the
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: mm A community is almost like if Busting with the
- 1:00:14Speaker 3: Boys turned to Yacht with the Boys. Yeah, right, because
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: because because they've been with y'all from here, right and
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: and and they're they're like grassroots from the bottom fans.
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: Like when this thing blew up, like if y'all started
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: bringing on like other people or got other people involved,
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: like they would hate them because they would be like,
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: that's not what it is. When all y'all are trying
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: to do is say, now, what we have is a
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: great thing, and we just want more people to feel it.
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- 1:00:43Speaker 3: want y'all. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, we the
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- 1:00:48Speaker 3: not gonna change our music. It just means that you
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: got to buy your ticket earlier if you want to
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: get as close as you got to us in the
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: other arenas. And that's kind of what we're trying to do.
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- 1:03:00Speaker 3: So so the little time you're reading that, look what
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: I'm thinking, all the tier ones are gonna be like, yeah,
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: that's probably why you said that about Derrick Heary, because
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: even Will said it, you have it wreck.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: I mean, he's just bottle ned. He's projecting right right.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: So let's get into it. You you had some comments
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: about Derek Henry last year.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: I'm gonna need some memory. There we go, Derrick Henry
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: doesn't run over anybody.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: Close to his size dot dot. I assume there's some
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: more contact in there. That's usually what that means. Has
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: late play bravery. Now I'm gonna step back. I was
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: on the team, you know, in my head like okay,
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: we were gonna we were gonna humble the Steelers, which
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: we showed up in the second half almost at that
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: we didn't show up at the beginning of the game.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Rebel toasted after the game that we should have beat him.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: So I believe him. But go ahead, I'm gonna step back.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take this quote.
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: Yeah, and so so here's here you rally cry for
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Nation and try to get a love to bro.
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: I know they were so fired up. Gosh I was
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: that was such a great play by me, such a
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: great TV moment. So here's the thing, right, and in
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: sitting in that seat and sitting in that seat, it's
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: it's very hard to get away from who you are,
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: right you play with me, Like getting to run over
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: was never a thought on mine, because I feel like
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: gunfighters get shot, right, Like, if you run up in
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: there enough, you're gonna get ran over. Like that that's
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: what happens. Like it's not a big deal. But and
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: and you're not necessarily yet in this world, but you
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: will be because you're good at this job. When you
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: get around no offense to these people. When you get
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: around normal people, they see life different than we see it,
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that that whole time
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: I had been in meetings with people all week that
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: just talked about Josh Norman getting stiff formed, right, and
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: just from the plain football perspective or the physical perspective,
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: one dude six' four arms Like gianni's.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: Bro any photo he has, them just, like how does
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: this dude get?
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: Bigger like if you, can't your arms ain't longer than,
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: his you ain't stronger than, His you're gonna get stiff,
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: Form like getting stiff formed is not to me necessarily
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: as physical of a play as the common world makes, it, right,
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: right and so and.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: So because now you got, memes now you got, video,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: right and SO i just kept hearing.
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: It and then if you think about his two most
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: famous stiff form was Turning Earl thomas into a lead
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: blocker right from a, tackler and then The Josh norman
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: thing two people.
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: That i'm bigger than And i'm not big, right and.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: So LIKE i just kept hearing, it AND i was like,
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: Bruh like, yes like look at the, dude He's Chase
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: young that plays running back and that's, Faster like that's gonna, happen,
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: Right but WHEN i Watched Derrick henry's run, style, right
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: his run style is straight up right and so there
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: are PEOPLE i have lost to in the open. Field
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying Like i've been in the open.
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: Field like Ray rice ran me over one time in
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: open field AND i grabbed.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: His leg and like held. On he made the. Tackle,
- 1:05:53Speaker 2: YEAH i made the.
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: Tackle but then but he walked over to like the
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: crowd and he's, flexing And i'm pissed off just because
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: Like i'm, like, oh you understand. Football you know what this.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: WAS i had to break. DOWN i had to break
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: down in the middle of the. FIELD i still got you.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Down you're supposed to score in. Practice you're getting hyped
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: up right, Defense, like, yo let's go.
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: Right, right right, right and so and so and so
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: we get to the sideline of that. Play i'm going
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: off subject. Here i'll be back. Right so we get
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: to the sideline AND i Tell Vince. WILLIAMS i was,
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: LIKE i need you to give me a small. Space
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: and he's, like what are you talking? ABOUT i, SAID i,
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: said IF i, said If i'm inserting in the, RUN
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: i need you to make sure that you have your
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: blocker in the place to where Ray rice doesn't have
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: a long way to. Go and here's WHY i say
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: that's the right man to talk to, you, Right, yeah exactly.
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: So but here's WHY i say. THAT i feel like
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: that in that, moment right in that moment WHERE i
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: know you only got one spot to. Go you, KNOW
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: i know you only got one spot to. Go there's
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: only one way out of, there like you got to
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: go through. Me and in my in my thirteen years
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: OF nfl, Football i've never lost that play. Ever you
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: can look at, it you can go try to find.
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: It in thirteen years of football a small, space you
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: ain't got nowhere to. GO i ain't gonna never lose
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: that play Because i'm gonna put my hands behind my,
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: back jump off two, feet and we ain't gonna stop
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: till my face mask hit your face, mask, period, Right
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: and so like that's the WAY i see. Football get
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: and in that way of seeing, football, right because you
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: get all the tweets Of Tennessee tights. Fans me in my,
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: PRIME i like my chances against twenty, two, Right and
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: ALL i said that week was in that. Moment ever
- 1:07:29Speaker 3: seeing him in that moment against people his, SIZE i
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: haven't seen him drop a shoulder and run through.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: People but, yeah when he get back there by DB's, hell.
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: Yeah he tossing him like that's the, thing and this
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: is not for me what Camera i'm looking. AT i
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: Think Derrick henry is a great running. Back he's one
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: of the top running backs in the. League, YES i
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: can say that and still believe all those other Things
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: i've said are. True, Right and so in that you
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: go back To, cleveland Short yordage near the goal, line
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: has an opportunity with one. Linebacker the linebacker gets him
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: down right splaying in that. Situation you can't totally take
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: that right because you got a little bit OF. Tj
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: watt there to Where derek really can't run through.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: It and we're Big splain, fans right because he was With. Tennessee,
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: FRANK i love.
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: Him but if you, watch if you Watch derek's feet
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: at those, moments they stop. Right it's not one of
- 1:08:20Speaker 3: those situations where he gets in that moment and it's, like,
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: not it's time to accelerate through this guy's. Chest but,
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: yeah IF i got you off to the side AND
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: i can get this long ass alien arm on your,
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: chin strap on your, chin on your face, Mask i'm
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: finna toss. You and so WHAT i said about the
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: late play bravery was so much of like the safety
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: in me just being tired of hearing it and like
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: and to my, fault, right to my. FAULT i shouldn't
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: have done it that, way you know What i'm, saying
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: way like the way LIKE i did, it in the
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: WAY i DO. Tv, RIGHT i did it in talking like,
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: This BUT i felt like it.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: Made it to talk about making it, Theatrical, yeah which is.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: Part but you're YOU'RE i mean you played for The,
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: steelers like it was two teams out of what are
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: our records and we're both.
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Undefeated huge game and so it's a huge.
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: Game, right and so but Like i'm ON tv, though
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: and Like stephen And max or like talking to, me
- 1:09:10Speaker 3: like people should be scared Of Derrick. Henry and WHAT
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: i was trying to explain, is, no you should be
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: scared Of Derrick, henry, right you, know like like and
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: like and like that was the POINT i was trying
- 1:09:21Speaker 3: to get. Across you should be scared of. HIM i
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: ain't scared of, him like When John, Jones like When John, jones,
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: UH i forget WHO i think it was at The
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: francis beat Step a, right And John jones puts out
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: this video and he was, like y'all, saying LIKE i
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: should be scared Of Steep francis And.
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: Gandu he's, like you probably, Ain't John.
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: Jones AND i felt that because you know, WHY i
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: Saw francis And gandu in The vegas and the lobby
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: and the, lobby And i'm.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: Scared you know What i'm, Saying, Yeah, john you, Right,
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: JOHN i. AM i ain't.
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: You i'm. Scared you cannot be. Scared but When Myles
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: garrett with hands walks through the, lobby it makes me,
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: nervous you, know and so and so like and like.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: That's WHAT i was.
- 1:10:02Speaker 3: Feeling and then like, finally like ON TV, bro BECAUSE
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: i had been fighting it all, morning it balled over
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: AND i said it that, way AND i, actually, like
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: for the first time in a long, TIME i felt
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: bad BECAUSE i really Respect Derrick henry in the sense
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: that when you look at somebody like that, big that,
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: fast that much, vision that type of lateral, movement like
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: he really is a very good. Back like this guy
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: has a chance to be A hall Of famer if,
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: this if this continues two or three more, years whatever
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: happens after that could. Happen he's probably gonna be A
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: hall Of, famer AND i get, that but in that,
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: moment BRO i was, like, nah LIKE i ain't never
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: seen him against somebody who could look. Him nobody looks,
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: him dang their eyed eye could look him. Almost who
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: can hook him up in the? Eye who can who
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: can be on the same rack in the weight, room
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: not necessarily with the same, weight but on the same,
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: rack so the coaches ain't got to take a lot
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: of weight.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: OFF i ain't.
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: Never seen him move those people when they were standing
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: right in front of each. Other and to be, honest
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: at this point in my, life which is a year,
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: LATER i still.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: Haven't and that doesn't mean that he.
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: Can't it just means that he. Hasn't and like that
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: was the. Point the POINT i made is one not only.
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: Right two it's, true it doesn't mean and it doesn't mean.
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: But there's still he's still playing like it can happen
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: this year and then, no it's no longer, true.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: Correct but it was true at the. Time and you
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: know what happens when he does. IT i go ON
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: tv AND i, say you know, What, derek you did
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: SOMETHING i said you couldn't do same way that people
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: had to sit around and, say you.
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: Know, what you're.
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: Honest you were seventeen for nineteen in a close out
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: game in the. Finals the STUFF i said then that was,
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: TRUE i can no longer. Say and so then if
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: anything happens after, THAT i can't, Say Derreck carrey ain't
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: never made his own, hole, Right Derek carrey ain't never
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: stumped on somebody's chest without all the stiff for.
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: HIM i can't say. That but guess what right? Now tier?
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: Ones right, NOW.
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: I LOVE i just got The tier one right, Now
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: Tennessee titans, FANS i can still say it and guess,
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: what he.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: Could still be a good, back Right like what?
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: Sucks what sucks? Too AND i know you feel this
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: way when you were a. Player it was is the
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: fact that the worst case that comes from you is
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: you're LIKE i get to go ON i can go
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: ON tv and be, like, Look, derek he did he did.
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: This it is now no longer. True he has ran over.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Somebody like you can say all this stuff and that's
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: that is your h like, punishment right like you don't
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: have to answer, that that's your way of getting around.
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: It like that's what.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: Sucks as like a, player AND i wanted to ask
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: you about that, too is like going fully to that other,
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: side to where you have to be so objective to
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: where you know that you're gonna, Get like you know
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: the boys in the locker. Room you're not that far,
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: removed even probably when you had to talk about Your steelers.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: At times when they weren't playing that.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: Well like some of the words are, Like, yo why
- 1:12:57Speaker 1: is r he saying talking like that when there's zero
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: context to the whole. Thing obviously you got to do
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: it within like thirty, seconds but now you're your punishment
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: for that is like when he does do, it AND
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: i will be the first one to go ON.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: Tv but that's your. Cycle that gets to be your cycle,
- 1:13:12Speaker 2: Now like.
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: That's that's you as a player when you made, It
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: like when you made that, play like if somebody's sitting
- 1:13:18Speaker 3: there or that, oh.
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: We get to that story, Too like when that that
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: inch away from making that play on that ball In
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: Super bowl forty five With Aaron rodgers and SOMEBODY O
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: Ryan clark is out.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: THERE i haven't seen him make that play blah blah.
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: Blah, right and then that YOUNG rc sitting there as an,
- 1:13:34Speaker 1: athlete you know you're thinking.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: That our c ON tv is kind of living a
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: little rent free in your.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: Head but you're, Like i'm gonna prove that. Wrong when
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: you prove it, wrong that person just gets to go ON.
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: Tv, okay he made the.
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: Play, YEAH i mean that's the that's the beauty of.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: It but you know, what two, though Will, MAN i
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: will say, this like the one Thing i'll never do
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: is speak to the character or the character of ball
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: integrity of a. Person you know What i'm, Saying LIKE
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: i don't Think Derrick henry is. SCARED i just think
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: that's the way he, runs you. KNOW i think that's
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: who he. Is you, Know LIKE i wasn't ever LIKE
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: i was never going to go into the meeting with
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: Coach lebou and be, like hey, man when they ain't
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: three pox one And Randy moss is on the, BACKSIDE
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: i want you to put me man to man right
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: because you know WHY i can't cover, Him like that's
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: not my game and so and SO i, think you,
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: know and SO i think that like that's the like
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: that's the one other thing. Too it's like you could
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: BE i can be as complementary of a guy AS
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: i want all the. Time but if something is true to, me,
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: right because let's not say it's. True IF i feel
- 1:14:38Speaker 3: Like i've watched enough film to be able to make
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: a statement about the way someone plays and his fans
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: don't like, it.
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: Then you can never be.
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: Right also, too not only is that the punishment you
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: don't get to come back from that will, right like
- 1:14:52Speaker 3: like even, now like WHEN i, said LIKE i GOTTA
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: i gotta whole thread the other Day Derrick henry stiff
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: arming people his size when when ONE i know he
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: steps arms people like that wasn't my, comment you know
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: What i'm saying like, That like that wasn't LIKE i
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: get it he could do. That, Nah i'm talking about
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: face up me and you like you know and so
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: like you just we're we're in a position where if
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: you don't say good things about everyone all the, time
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: you can't be loved by everyone all the.
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: Time Dan orlowski.
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: Everybody who is super smart sent me a text me
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: And Marcus spears actually and he was, like you, know,
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: man he just, SAID i Hope dan doesn't get mad about,
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: this just saying LIKE i love the way that you
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: guys aren't scared to be, wrong and LIKE i didn't
- 1:15:41Speaker 3: know how to take it at, first BECAUSE i was,
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: like is he.
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: Saying i'm wrong a? Lot you know What i'm. SAYING
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: i was, like dang d do you feel Like i'm
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: wrong a?
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: Lot and But, dan it's a. Sweetheart SO i didn't
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: take it that. Way and WHAT i told him is.
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: THIS i was, like, one we are constantly trying to
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: be prophetic about other adult, people, right we're trying to
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: predict the future many times of what's gonna. HAPPEN i,
- 1:16:07Speaker 3: said can't be? Right, like you just. CAN'T i, said
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: but here's the. Thing it's okay to be. Wrong you
- 1:16:14Speaker 3: just have to have a good reason for being. Wrong
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: AND i think that's what's motivated the WAY i DO.
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: Tv like IF i could go to the, like IF
- 1:16:23Speaker 3: i can, say, well this is the, thing and here's
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: the play of WHY i say why, right here's the
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: play of WHY i think this. Thing you cannot agree with,
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: me BUT i can, say here's the evidence that it, happens.
- 1:16:37Speaker 3: Right and so that's always been my. Thing, now Say
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: Derrick henry comes Out week, one he's faced up with
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: somebody in the hole and runs over, him which he
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: very well, could because he's a ginormous. Man right, THEN
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: i could be, like, man shoot of all the Film
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: i've ever, Watched, like that's the first TIME i Seen
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: Derreck henry do. That, now if he's added that to his,
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: game how do you stop this?
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: Guy? Right and and and now it's a nice, way that's.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: It but it's not.
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: That the thing that will bro LIKE i don't need
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: a way out of, it you know What i'm, saying
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: because because, no it's not even.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: That the thing IS i don't need a. Way so
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: when he, does it will but you're gonna be, like,
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: Hey i'm taking this.
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: One but the thing is this Though tennessee, fans Right
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: tier one fans right, ye are going to run to
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: My twitter.
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: To tell me about.
- 1:17:29Speaker 3: It let me say it, again like like like like
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: like like say. It let me say it. Again they're
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: going to run to My twitter to say you know
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: what else?
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: Happens?
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: Though every time he plays so, Well Deshaun, elliott which
- 1:17:42Speaker 3: really wasn't a face up, here, Right derek makes a,
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: Move deshaun sticks. Him guess what everybody? Did ran to my? Twitter,
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: Right splaine sticks? Him what does everybody?
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: Do run to My? Twitter so? Forever?
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: Right Whether Derek herey wins a play or loses a, play.
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: Everybody comes to me because they're trying to say and
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: that's and So ryan's an. Investor so here's the hard. Part,
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: Right so here's the hard.
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: PART i never wanted TO i never wanted to walk
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: that statement. Back BUT i also didn't want it to
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: be THAT i was wishing and hoping For derek Can
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: rey to, fail you know What i'm, saying, Right and
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: so now and so now you're like you're Playing twitter
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: double dutch when people sing you things, right because on
- 1:18:28Speaker 3: the one, end you're getting things when he, loses and
- 1:18:30Speaker 3: you kind of want to be, like, yeah that's you,
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: know people like just Like Ryan clark said such as,
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: such like you kind of want to be, like, yeah
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: that's WHAT i, said. Right or you get him stiff
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: forming like the big lineman last, year and you, know
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: people like, say you say he doesn't stiff form people his,
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: size and then they want to be, like, nah that
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: wasn't WHAT i was talking. About and so now you
- 1:18:48Speaker 3: got to play this game the whole time of people
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: thinking you Hate Derrick henry when you really, don't like
- 1:18:53Speaker 3: he's like every other running back in the, league like
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: you hope he does, well it doesn't really put money
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: in your pocket if he does or. Not but because
- 1:18:59Speaker 3: you say, this, now this is now always attached to.
- 1:19:02Speaker 3: You but that's part of the, gig you know What i'm.
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: Saying and so with that being part of the, gig
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: the thing you gotta do is you got to figure
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: out you got to figure out who you doing this.
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: For The Tennessee titans fans are never gonna love me, holistically,
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: Right they're never gonna love me, unconditionally even BEFORE i
- 1:19:18Speaker 3: said that About Derrick, henry because they're.
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: Maybe they'll have a new respect now because you're on
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: bust with the, boys, Right.
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: But that's because you love. Me that's because you're my,
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: family like my. Nephew this is you, know they didn't
- 1:19:27Speaker 3: want you to have me on, here you just, did,
- 1:19:29Speaker 3: Right so and so LIKE i gotta, LIKE i gotta
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: accept that. Matter like you talk about locker room WHEN
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: i would do my top five every, week, RIGHT espn
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: just likes me to do it BECAUSE i do it
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: in like a different, Way LIKE i barely talk about the.
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: Team i'm just being funny and saying things and having
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: a great, time just having a great. Time, RIGHT i
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: didn't put The steelers, undefeated and they weren't my number one. Team,
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: okay The Kansas City chiefs. Were and guess, WHAT i
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: was right at the point because they were. Better and
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: So Rick ebron AND i forget this tackle on this tackles.
- 1:20:02Speaker 3: Name he was injured at the. Time active on SOCIAL tooa,
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: right very, active, right he's got a. Podcast, YEAH i didn't.
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: Know and so.
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: You, know he said something about like me not putting
- 1:20:14Speaker 3: them number one or whatever, whatever AND i was just,
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: like oh, man you know there's reason behind, It LIKE
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: i feel listen to. THIS i had you guys THAT
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: i have you guys at number. Two WHATEVER i Think
- 1:20:23Speaker 3: Kansas city may have lost or. SOMETHING i can't say
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: that already. LOST i still have number, one and, uh you,
- 1:20:28Speaker 3: Know and so LIKE i was being nice about, it you,
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like he probably feels some type of
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: WAY i played For. STEELERS i was being nice about.
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: It so he tweets me something, again, Right SO i
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: tweet him, back AND i was, like and, like he's
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: kind of joking at. LEAST i didn't really take it
- 1:20:45Speaker 3: at that like that at, first but it felt like he, was,
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: uh you, know SO i kind of joke back and say, yeah,
- 1:20:50Speaker 3: man you're, right you, know but this is HOW i,
- 1:20:52Speaker 3: felt SO i said. It so he has another. One
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: now you come at me this many. Times, NOW i
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: think we have a personal, problem RIGHT i, AM i
- 1:21:02Speaker 3: am forty?
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: One, right you got D i got ed from Apparently
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: i'm gonna Go.
- 1:21:09Speaker 3: Roman you, know and so like, eventually you, know like
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: it got to the POINT i was, LIKE i don't
- 1:21:16Speaker 3: play like that, though you know What i'm. SAYING i was, like,
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know what they tell you about me around.
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: THERE i was, like but like that whole like checking
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: me and stuff that gets like one or two tweets
- 1:21:30Speaker 3: While i'm cool with. It and then eventually it's we
- 1:21:33Speaker 3: have a personal. Problem and the only WAY i know
- 1:21:34Speaker 3: how to have no personal problems is like face to.
- 1:21:36Speaker 3: FACE i was, like the same things they, Say, YEAH
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: i was, like, yeah pretty. MUCH i was like the
- 1:21:40Speaker 3: same THINGS i say ON. TV i was, LIKE i
- 1:21:42Speaker 3: come to your locker room and, say you know WHAT i?
- 1:21:45Speaker 3: Mean And banner was his, name and like he started
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: saying some stuff and at the time like he.
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: Was, hurt you know WHAT i.
- 1:21:52Speaker 3: Mean and it took AND i can, admit Like i'm
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: not the best person at all. Times it took a
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: lot for me to not talk about what his career
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: was before or that and then him now being. Hurt
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: but it was basically, like, hey, man min your, business
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: because then he jumped in with some, stuff you know
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: What i'm, saying and so like, eventually Like eric was really,
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: cool like he called me or he texted. Me you,
- 1:22:12Speaker 3: know it was like he got he found my. Number
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: he like asked like people and he texted, me and
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: he was very respectful and he was, like, man you,
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: Know i'm a clown this and, that AND i was very.
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: HONEST i was LIKE i am to an, extent you.
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like when to, me when you start
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: coming at me in like that public, form LIKE i
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: address it in that public. Form AND i was, like
- 1:22:31Speaker 3: And i'm me every day all, Day like that's WHO i,
- 1:22:33Speaker 3: am you. Know but those are the things like you
- 1:22:36Speaker 3: deal with as a, Player like when you talk about
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: your former, team it's like whereas talking about The Pittsburgh
- 1:22:43Speaker 3: steelers in most of the time for, sure and unbiased
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: fashion is great for my, job it's great FOR, espn
- 1:22:49Speaker 3: it's great for how people see. Me but actually in the,
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: building it's an, issue LIKE i get all the time
- 1:22:54Speaker 3: for steel. Fans why don't you ever support? Us why
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: don't you cheer for? Us, well BECAUSE i don't play
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: there no, More like they ain't writing a, check you
- 1:23:00Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying Like i'm loyal to the people
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: that write the, checks.
- 1:23:03Speaker 2: RIGHT i was A steeler WHEN i was A.
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: STEELER i was A washington team player WHEN i was
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: A WASHINGTON i was A giant WHEN i was A,
- 1:23:08Speaker 3: giant you. Know and this, weekend you, KNOW i didn't
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: cry At. TROY'S i cried on the. PODCAST i didn't
- 1:23:15Speaker 3: cry At. TROY'S i would have if he were to,
- 1:23:18Speaker 3: cried but he. Didn't he was, strong AND i stayed.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: Strong and somebody asked, me you, know there's, like how
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: can you not cry when he's talking about The steeler?
- 1:23:26Speaker 3: Way AND i had to be very. HONEST i, said,
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: well my weight had to be my.
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: WAY i.
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: SAID i was just blessed that my way fit with
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: The steelers for so. Long you know What i'm, Saying
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: LIKE i wasn't. Drafted you, KNOW i was told By
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: Tom coughlin after year or two he didn't THINK i
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: could play in that, league that the arena that they
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: had arena football that they had football In, canada that
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: special teams was WHAT i had to work. On then
- 1:23:49Speaker 3: in week Two i'm in the next the same, Year
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: i'm facing Up Tiki barber in the second half of a,
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: game you.
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: Know WHAT i.
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: Mean and so to, me it's, like, though Why i'm loyal.
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: To people not?
- 1:24:04Speaker 3: Places you know What i'm? Saying DO i Love? Pittsburgh?
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: Like was it great to be A? Steeler DID i Retire?
- 1:24:10Speaker 3: Steeler were the best eight years of my football career
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: being A? Steeler where the lifelong RELATIONSHIPS i have being A?
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: Steeler absolutely? Right but when my people are gone from that,
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: PLACE i don't owe that building.
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: Anything BUT i owe that building is the same THING
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: i owe all.
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: The other thirty thirty one buildings is to assess them
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: fairly based on what they do as it pertains to.
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: Football AND i dealt with that With.
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: ANTONIO i deal with that with rankings like that that's
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: just what it. Is and oh, yeah and you know
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: and and so man, like that's what, like that's the
- 1:24:45Speaker 3: thing about the. Job but that's the, thing, like that's
- 1:24:49Speaker 3: the thing about. Life Man, Like when people don't get
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: that the reason a lot of this is addressed or
- 1:24:57Speaker 3: people say things is because like WHEN I i DO
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: tv now in the way THAT i do, it like
- 1:25:02Speaker 3: that's really, me you know What i'm, Saying Like i'm
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: not a characterture of. Myself LIKE i don't go ON
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: tv and act Like i'm not on this bus like
- 1:25:10Speaker 3: acting like this really is. Me and so the way
- 1:25:13Speaker 3: that people perceive this is the way that people perceive.
- 1:25:17Speaker 3: Me and in a lot of, ways like that authenticity
- 1:25:22Speaker 3: is what's made me successful.
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: Now but it's also the.
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: Thing that makes you vulnerable to critiques because IF i
- 1:25:33Speaker 3: Know i'm, lying you can't hurt my, feelings you know
- 1:25:36Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying like IF i, know like IF i
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: go on the, show IF i go on a, show
- 1:25:40Speaker 3: bro to say something THAT i don't, believe WHICH i
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: have sometimes you, know like you go on first take
- 1:25:46Speaker 3: and you get the little sheet and they'll be Like
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: max is gonna say?
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: This this Is max.
- 1:25:51Speaker 3: Answer they don't tell you like what they're gonna, say
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: but they'll be like no For, max yes for seing
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: side all that right and the, like and they'll do,
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: that and LIKE i may like if If i'm on
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: If i'm in a situation to Where i'm not attached
- 1:26:03Speaker 3: to an. Answer i'll just answered differently and understand Why
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: i'm answering that, way have great reasoning for answering that,
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: way but not really be attached to it Because i'm, like,
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: WELL i could have answered that question in four or
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: five different. WAYS i just chose the one way that
- 1:26:17Speaker 3: was different from those two because it would have been born.
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: As hell for me to be Like, Max SO i.
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: Agree now there's some Things i'm so tied to as an,
- 1:26:24Speaker 3: answer and that is so much a part of. ME
- 1:26:26Speaker 3: i can't do, That like are you just gonna have
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: to have a born ass, show? Right or like even
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: like during The kaepernick stuff WHEN i was still WHEN
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: i was, working there were so many production meetings where
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: they would, say are you going to say that ON?
- 1:26:39Speaker 3: Tv AND i used to be, like hell, yeah and
- 1:26:42Speaker 3: they'd be, like we're not going to ask. You AND
- 1:26:44Speaker 3: i got it right because it was not that just
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: that that didn't just save the, network that saved, me
- 1:26:53Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying like when WHEN i wore
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: A kaepernick jersey On mike And mike the week After
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: greeney Wore Trevor simme and, jersey AND i got a
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: call that said you can't do. THAT i, said, well why,
- 1:27:05Speaker 3: RIGHT i, said Greeney, Wood trevor send me In jersey last.
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: WEEK i figured he wore a jersey of a quarterback he.
- 1:27:11Speaker 3: LIKED i do a jersey of a QUARTERBACK i. Liked
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: and they were, like, nah but you know what it.
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: MEANS i was, LIKE i absolutely. Do so tell me
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: THAT i can't wear it because of. That you see
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: What i'm saying and so, Like but but that was,
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: Me like that wasn't some dude PLAYING.
- 1:27:26Speaker 2: TV i did that As Ryan. Clark you.
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: KNOW i had to ask my old lady BEFORE i went, on,
- 1:27:31Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know how this is going to. Play
- 1:27:34Speaker 3: are you okay with whatever happens after?
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: This you?
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: Know and so though like the media, thing man is
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: like super, Cool you're gonna like you have to find
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: a balance of like what part of the game are
- 1:27:48Speaker 3: you willing to? Play AND i THINK i think they
- 1:27:52Speaker 3: eventually get to the point where they, know like you
- 1:27:56Speaker 3: want what's best for the, team but you ain't playing the,
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- 1:29:39Speaker 1: SEE i have a couple. Questions number, one What's Skip?
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: Bayles? Like i'm sure a lot of people probably ask,
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: you BUT.
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: I just want to know you tell you earlier when you, said,
- 1:29:48Speaker 3: Uh max is gonna Say max is gonna play into
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: this one the bill like you you essentially like they
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: see that they're building like characters kind of like MAYBE
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: ww in a way like they Know skip.
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Could be the.
- 1:29:58Speaker 1: Villain skip kind of he knows a role he's. In
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: BUT i want to know what's this man? Like because
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: at times he's a most hated.
- 1:30:04Speaker 3: Man In, america So i'm probably about the. BEHAVIOR i
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: really really Like Skip.
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: BALIS i felt, LIKE i feel like that's, consensus because
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: why else would he.
- 1:30:13Speaker 3: Be, YEAH i LIKE i like him just because too, like,
- 1:30:18Speaker 3: uh he's he's he's more, quiet he's, quieter more soft, spoken,
- 1:30:23Speaker 3: away but a true wealth of knowledge. Though and he
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: was one of those people that because it's such a competitive,
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: business you, know, RIGHT i feel LIKE i feel like
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: everybody feels like the ten year vet who plays the
- 1:30:38Speaker 3: position the first rounder just got drafted, in you.
- 1:30:41Speaker 2: KNOW i feel like a lot of people feel, Like,
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: MAN i.
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: CAN'T i can't really give you these, things or tell
- 1:30:46Speaker 3: you these, things or give you these flowers in front of,
- 1:30:48Speaker 3: people because that may infringe upon WHAT i. HAVE i
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: think he was so secure and what he had built
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: that he was he was always willing, to like have those,
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: conversations always willing, to you, know help you out and
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: help you understand parts of the, business bring you in
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: to the. Show Stephen a has gotten a lot like
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: that that. Too max from day one has been one
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: of my favorite. People AND i think because he's kind
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: of Like max is exactly like he is ON. Tv
- 1:31:23Speaker 3: skip was harder, though, right because you had this picture
- 1:31:26Speaker 3: of Who skip. Was but you also have to remember
- 1:31:29Speaker 3: the first thing he ever said to me or about
- 1:31:31Speaker 3: me really other than, Hello, skip WAS i just want
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: everybody to know of every, athlete of every entertainer that's
- 1:31:38Speaker 3: ever can't come in, Here Ryan clark's the most, prepared you.
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: Know so we started on such a good. Note and
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: he didn't ever talk on you before you got that
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: like as a.
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: Player oh you, know he's like a Big cowboys, Guy like.
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: Yeah, well you, know you, know we had the whole
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: thing with Steven a the. Athletes remember they had the
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: athletes versus commentator thing When Richard sherman Told skip he
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: was better at life then yeah. Yeah and so like
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: during that, TIME i went on one day and Stephen
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: a wasn't, on and like the whole thing came, up
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: and like STEVEN a was talking about like how athletes
- 1:32:12Speaker 3: won his job and they don't have degrees and carrying
- 1:32:16Speaker 3: on or, whatever and you, Know i'm a manship mass
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: communications Graduate Louisiana State, university you, know and so like
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: it was my, major you, Know and SO i was
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: on the show AND i was, LIKE, WHOA i can't
- 1:32:31Speaker 3: do your, job AND i do have a, degree and
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: my hairline ain't push, back you, know and so it's
- 1:32:39Speaker 3: not still. Not and so WHEN i WHEN i said,
- 1:32:42Speaker 3: that you, know he. Wasn't Steven a wasn't there that,
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: day And skip was kind of like, quiet like he.
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: Let me say, it ain't say.
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: Nothing and So bro like the next day Like skip
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: was egg and Stephen a on And steven they went,
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: hard you, know Like i'll come to the locker room
- 1:32:56Speaker 3: And i'll say it in the.
- 1:32:58Speaker 2: Stutic vocabulary To steve and he just starts throwing.
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: Words, Right so Now i'm, confused yeah, Too and so
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: he says all this at a Time, no we were
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: like twelve or four like throughout the last four. Years
- 1:33:07Speaker 3: So i'm, like that's, Stupid like we're just saying about
- 1:33:10Speaker 3: my team not being, Good like that's. Dumb and so
- 1:33:12Speaker 3: he's going through all this, stuff which is, fine right
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: because he had to shoot. BACK i wasn't. THERE i
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: kept felt some kind of way, though BECAUSE i was, Like,
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: skip you could have said something yesterday or whatever DAY
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: i was. On all of a, sudden Stephen a's back
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: And mum's the word and all that. Stuff and at the,
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: End Bro Stephen ages and as for anything, Else Ryan
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: clark knows what he can kiss and like all the
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: rest of. IT i was like laughing because it was
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: like all, football you. Know and then when he said,
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: THAT i was, like, Oh STEPHEN. A smith wants to fight?
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: Me like that was like immediately my, thought you. Know
- 1:33:48Speaker 3: and So Gaileen. GORDON i Think galen's working with like
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: ABC's like super big time. Now at the, time he
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: was producing the show and him And steve and they
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: are like jam. Tight BUT i talked To gaillen BECAUSE
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: i built on the show or. Whatever AND i called
- 1:34:01Speaker 3: him and he was having like an event In New
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: orleans and at the, TIME i you, KNOW i lived
- 1:34:05Speaker 3: In Van ruges in the off, season AND i was, like,
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: bro you gonna have to cancel your. Event he's, like,
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: Well i'm a whip him straight. UP i was like
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: all the other stuff was. COOL i was, like but,
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: man gonna tell me kiss his? ASS i was like
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: On NATIONAL. TV i was, like him means he wants
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: to fight, me you. Know and it was AND i.
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: CALLED i got calls like hey, man you got to pick.
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: One you either got to uninvite me or you got
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: to cancel. It because either, way Like i'm. Fighting and
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: it was my first conversation with Stephen. A he called
- 1:34:33Speaker 3: me that day and first, thing AND i, LIKE i
- 1:34:37Speaker 3: would respect him forever for. THIS i wish he did
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: it ON tv because you, know you kind of shine
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: on me ON. Tv you can do it ON. Tv
- 1:34:42Speaker 3: but it was, cool And.
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: I'm sure he wre one day and talking about how
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: well he knows, you.
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: And he was, like but he was, like, uh, FIRST
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: i want to. Apologize you. Know he's, like HOW I
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: he's like WHAT i said was like was. Wrong he's,
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: like not the STUFF i said before. That he's, like
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: BUT i get why why you are upset about. That
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: AND i was actually In Southside. PITTSBURGH i was going to.
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: EAT i was going to a place called The Commas
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: He'll Botchy, spot AND i stood outside of the spot
- 1:35:07Speaker 3: for like an hour and we just talked and he
- 1:35:09Speaker 3: just and like he's become one of my, best my greatest.
- 1:35:12Speaker 3: Mentors like there but even with, that like he don't
- 1:35:15Speaker 3: play with, me you know What i'm. Saying it's like
- 1:35:18Speaker 3: sometimes like you gotta let people know that you are
- 1:35:22Speaker 3: little throwed. Off if you are a little throwed, off
- 1:35:25Speaker 3: because it helps. Them it helps you help them not
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: do anything that's gonna get them in a fight with.
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: You AND i don't know if you follow, that but
- 1:35:33Speaker 3: trying to what it means, is it's, like it's like, this,
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: right IF i don't want to Fight Will, compton, right
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: BUT i know that there are things that will Trigger
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: Will compton to fight.
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: Me you know What i'm gonna.
- 1:35:44Speaker 3: Do i'm gonna make SURE i don't do none of
- 1:35:45Speaker 3: those things right BECAUSE i know that he'll click out
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: and we have an issue now IF.
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: I, like if you look at him the wrong, way,
- 1:35:52Speaker 1: right ANYTIME i see that with it like a, Teammate
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: i'm just, like, hey, man like what kind of life
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: have you?
- 1:35:56Speaker 3: LIVED i actually felt that, Way LIKE i went to
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: a bro like that's who's no longer exists In New
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: orleans's so, yeah like he played AND i played d
- 1:36:05Speaker 3: in and he was one hundred and forty pounds at high. School,
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: yeah and he ran four two though a pro. Day
- 1:36:09Speaker 3: so that's. Crazy they played d in the high school
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: and so, man you, know so like that's been like
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: that's been a crazy thing ABOUT tv man is like
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: understanding that some of these, guys some of these guys
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: who are just really good at their jobs aren't necessarily
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: those same. People like if you Watch skip baillis, now
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: WHAT i think he's done a great job of is
- 1:36:29Speaker 3: he understands That Shannon sharp has a certain following that
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: he brings to the show that's, good a certain a certain,
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: charisma a certain a certain. Factor, Right, Shannon Shannon sharp
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: is a, Dunker, Right So Shannon sharp Needs Chris, paul,
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: Right like Like DeAndre, jordan he didn't Need Blake, griffin
- 1:36:51Speaker 3: but he Needed Chris.
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: Paul and so WHAT.
- 1:36:53Speaker 3: I, think WHAT i Think skip has done an amazing
- 1:36:57Speaker 3: job of is Whether shannon believes it In shannon Loves? Lebron,
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: Right skip's always felt a certain way about Lebronh, yeah
- 1:37:05Speaker 3: but but but if you watch if you Watch, skip,
- 1:37:07Speaker 3: now every other person in the world at some point
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: is the best player in the, world Never.
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: Lebron yeah, Right but but what does it do For?
- 1:37:17Speaker 3: Shannon it Allows shannon to wear goattheads and jerseys and
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: show that he still swollen even in his. Fifties right
- 1:37:25Speaker 3: and so and so and so In truth And, Truth
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: skip has kept himself relevant by saying things even we
- 1:37:35Speaker 3: don't think he believes in a way that makes us
- 1:37:38Speaker 3: think he might believe.
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: It and now that's the whole. Thing it's like a.
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: Mystery it's, like how does this douse? You, like ain't
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: no way you? Like, bro he won the fourth, one
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: like it's the tenth. One he come, on, bro like
- 1:37:49Speaker 3: especially when he dies on the hill for The. Cowboys
- 1:37:51Speaker 3: but you can't at some point see some kind of
- 1:37:53Speaker 3: light With Lebron, james, right and and and so and,
- 1:37:56Speaker 3: SO i think, like because he has done that and
- 1:37:59Speaker 3: he's stuck with, that it's now created this persona or
- 1:38:04Speaker 3: this aura that you love to. Hate and so in,
- 1:38:07Speaker 3: truth guys Like, skip guys Like Steven ay like they're
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: really they're really media media geniuses in that they've mastered their,
- 1:38:19Speaker 3: craft which is which is the job THAT i have
- 1:38:22Speaker 3: not mastered and probably will.
- 1:38:24Speaker 2: Not but you, know that's just a, thing you know
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean BUT i, think Man, tuto.
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: You know, one whenever The Mount rushmore swings back, AROUND i.
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: Just want to BE i want to Be Mount. Busmore i'm,
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: Sorry Mount.
- 1:38:39Speaker 3: BUSMORE i want to be one of the twenty seven
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: people you, mentioned even if not one of the, four
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: not one of.
- 1:38:45Speaker 2: The four that makes it because we all know how
- 1:38:47Speaker 2: you do?
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: That, YEAH i was just LIKE i. WAS i forget
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: WHO i was talking to the other. Day but it's, like,
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: hey It's Mount. BUSMORE i can have as many people
- 1:38:53Speaker 1: AS i went on the On Mount busmore as.
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: Possible, yeah because it's not Actually Mount rushmore is actually
- 1:38:58Speaker 3: not presidents and so and and what was great about
- 1:39:01Speaker 3: it IS i could tell you're you're you're.
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: Good guy came out in.
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: You, OH i, know, dude because it's SOMETHING i. Batter
- 1:39:09Speaker 1: what are you talking? About like mentioning pretty much?
- 1:39:10Speaker 3: Everybody, yeah, yeah and you don't want to fucking SO
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: i was like it was WHEN i was on The
- 1:39:21Speaker 3: Earnest pod and he's, like you did jaelly roll?
- 1:39:23Speaker 2: Wrong And i'm, thinking, YEAH i did jelly roll. WRONG
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: i fucked.
- 1:39:25Speaker 3: Up but the thing, is, though who are like truly
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: give me the best for?
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: IT i want? Them there we. Go now you want it, now,
- 1:39:31Speaker 2: now now you want it for.
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: Right you you've, had you've, broke you've had time like
- 1:39:35Speaker 3: you've had you've had. Time And i'm sitting right here,
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: though so we're going to see if like the good
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: do you have to rewatch it to?
- 1:39:41Speaker 2: KNOW i THINK i think WHAT i can make.
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: IT i think what's tough is not, thinking, oh, oh
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: so now you want me to include if you would
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: be on, it.
- 1:39:50Speaker 2: But, WELL i made.
- 1:39:51Speaker 3: One IF i make IF i make, one so so
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: so the next time, one and there's to put it.
- 1:39:57Speaker 2: To be open about.
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: It it's tough because there's different criterias that run in my.
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: Brain it's like with, you like when you were being
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: wanting to be super smart and wanting to come off
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: as smart AND i forget who, said, hey, YO i
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: want people to see your. Personality like there's always a
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: Line i'm not necessarily a battle, with But i'm thinking
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: about it Because i'm, Like, okay DO i want to
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: be the funny guy right?
- 1:40:16Speaker 2: Now or DO i want to be the serious be
- 1:40:17Speaker 2: a fucking wolf.
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: Guy and so When i'm thinking of, humor there's a
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: different criteria that goes into like That human podcast Because
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: taylor is an, Entertainer LIKE i love doing podswards me
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: and him and we're laughing our heads, off and it's,
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: like is that the mount bust more Than i'm trying to?
- 1:40:29Speaker 2: Create or AM i trying to? Create?
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: Like, yo what HAVE i gotten out of or how
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: HAVE i been impacted by sitting here and having a.
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: Conversation You're you're definitely in the. Conversation look at me
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: already creating that insurance. Policy but but, real like the
- 1:40:41Speaker 1: Way blash is said always, online like you sit here
- 1:40:43Speaker 1: and you have these.
- 1:40:44Speaker 2: CONVERSATIONS i know As i'm listening to.
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: You the Less i've spoken on a, podcast the More i'm,
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: LIKE i really fuck with the podcast Because.
- 1:40:52Speaker 2: I'm, learning And i'm like diving.
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: In like when you brought up being cut in your,
- 1:40:55Speaker 1: TWO i don't know that about you Because i'm so
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: fascinated with people's. Stories so it's like it's DILEMMA i
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: gotta live in Because i'm, LIKE i love. STORIES i
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: love WHEN i get stuffing Like Darren waller being on
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: The pot. Amazing he's somebody who's one percent on, there
- 1:41:09Speaker 1: Like David. Questenberg he's somebody as far as numbers and
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: all that hasn't been like. That it doesn't make the top.
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: Ten but as somebody who battled through cancer was on The,
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: texans rang the. Bell now he's playing on The titans
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: like he's, overcame such, as ain't the Why i'm sitting?
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: There i'm, like, SHIT i did not even know that
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: about this, Dude LIKE i just know he caught a
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: touchdown pass the year before coming off practice squad and
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: spiked the. Football like and then there's Stuff i'm learning
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: about with. You it's like it just makes it so damn.
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: Hard and then LIKE i, like no matter What darren
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: Waller dale And Hard.
- 1:41:37Speaker 2: Junior being on the, bus they're no brainers for me.
- 1:41:40Speaker 3: BECAUSE i had some money when You so when you
- 1:41:43Speaker 3: pick a guy right or or, there we, go calm me,
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: down calm me. Down no, no, no no, no because LIKE
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: i really, LIKE i really Want i'm interested in this
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think you have more like you guys have
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: more of a vision for a, podcast like in On face,
- 1:41:56Speaker 3: First i'm, All i'm all six of these. People, YEAH
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: i see What i'm. Saying, yeah What i'm, saying so and,
- 1:42:03Speaker 3: so Like i'm learning from you. Now so when you
- 1:42:06Speaker 3: go into a podcast and you have a, guest do
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: you know if you want, funny IF i want to
- 1:42:13Speaker 3: be a, dog IF i want to learn, something or
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: are you diving into their story to, See, okay this
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: is What i'm. Expecting and when you start getting, it
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: do you like or do you start getting it and
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: feel like this is where this one is, Going i'm
- 1:42:27Speaker 3: gonna keep it going this way because the other piece
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: of it is it's like they don't say much, right
- 1:42:32Speaker 3: so the stuff that they could be feeling like they
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: might be, Like, ooh ask this question OR i want
- 1:42:37Speaker 3: to hear, this but you have to do. That so
- 1:42:39Speaker 3: do you have a mindset of this is WHAT i
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: want this podcast to be or do you just get
- 1:42:44Speaker 3: a guy start filling them out and then let them
- 1:42:46Speaker 3: kind of roll with it and you figure out how
- 1:42:48Speaker 3: to work.
- 1:42:48Speaker 2: IT i think it.
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: Depends it's a mix, because like so with, YOU i
- 1:42:51Speaker 1: know the relationship me and you, HAVE i know what
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: how you refer to miss tier ones the entire Episode
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: taylor messaging Like taylor doesn't know how close we.
- 1:42:59Speaker 2: Are LIKE i knew what kind of rapport that we,
- 1:43:01Speaker 2: Have SO.
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: I knew when it was gonna be me and you
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: one on one sitting, DOWN i knew we'd get a,
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: good juicy pod like this with depth and everything. Else
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: If taylor's sitting on the, Bus i'm sure we get
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: in there a lot of that, stuff But i'm sure
- 1:43:11Speaker 1: a lot of time gets taken up talking about The
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: Derrick henry, thing and you're having more. Fun so sometimes
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: sometimes it depends If taylor's next to. Me but but
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: credit To taylor, Too like there's times WHERE i get
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: surprised BECAUSE i might THINK i want to go a
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: little bit more in depth with this person then have
- 1:43:26Speaker 1: so much more light and have fun Like, dale Like
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: taylor AND i were shut up the whole, Time and
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: sometimes we'll both we might both sit here and think
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: how do we want Because taylor again is a lot
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: more of an entertainment, factor, like and sometimes we might
- 1:43:38Speaker 1: have a guest And alex does all the background search
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: or the guys might come, in LIKE jp wanted me
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: to ask you ABOUT dc because he's a big FIGHTER
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: Nerd right, Now i'm not taking it as a shot
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: like that's you know.
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: You are THOUGH i get. It, Yeah but like Sometimes
- 1:43:50Speaker 2: alex will have everything right.
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: Now i'll be, hey did you dive in on the
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: story BECAUSE i ain't give much time to like, backlog
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: but before, this LIKE i know you have so much
- 1:43:58Speaker 1: of a story That i'm in the sauna trying to
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: grab all my. Notes he already had an entire thing on.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: You BUT i might come in and having like just being, like,
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: okay well we wants this so even THOUGH i worked
- 1:44:10Speaker 1: at stately hard on trying to find stuff On Ryan.
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: CLARK i Know will has all this stuff that he
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: wants to, Look, yes but he had everything mapped out for.
- 1:44:18Speaker 2: You but so sometimes it just.
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: Depends LIKE i would, say who's somebody that's came on
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: THAT i probably sat with one on one THAT i
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: didn't know much, About Nate, bargatzi a, Comedian and so
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: when it's just me and him one on one And
- 1:44:30Speaker 1: taylor wasn't gonna make that, One i'm, like, shit Like
- 1:44:33Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to kind of wing this one on
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: my own a little. Bit, fortunately Like alex always has
- 1:44:39Speaker 1: criteria to go by WHERE i can dive. In you
- 1:44:42Speaker 1: ask a, question they get to, talking you might mirror
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: the last few words that they're saying to get them
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: to talk a.
- 1:44:46Speaker 2: Little, more, like, YEAH i got.
- 1:44:48Speaker 4: That a lot of it, too is like we we
- 1:44:50Speaker 4: liked the open format kind of lesser structured as far
- 1:44:53Speaker 4: as like let's stick with open, conversations let's get, there
- 1:44:55Speaker 4: and like the boys are so good in their own,
- 1:44:57Speaker 4: worlds like he was talking, About taylor's an. Entertainer will
- 1:45:00Speaker 4: loves to get kind of in depth and get, More,
- 1:45:02Speaker 4: UH i don't, know more like insightful to, conversations and
- 1:45:06Speaker 4: so they're chemistry back and forth.
- 1:45:07Speaker 2: Works so it really.
- 1:45:08Speaker 4: Like sometimes we'll walk on here and not really know
- 1:45:10Speaker 4: exactly the direction we're gonna, go which is totally opposite
- 1:45:13Speaker 4: of what you'll see IN tv on your side of things, obviously,
- 1:45:16Speaker 4: Right but it's, worked and so we just kind of
- 1:45:18Speaker 4: try to double down.
- 1:45:19Speaker 3: THAT i think that's the the beauty of The and
- 1:45:22Speaker 3: mainly don't.
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: They only won't they only won't talk if we have
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: like a conversation like. This, usually Like i'll tell, them
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: like If i'm doing a pot of my own or
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: we have somebody on here And i'm, like, hey, well
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: like we, want LIKE i want you guys to be
- 1:45:33Speaker 1: a soundboard just because LIKE i can't sit here and
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: just look at a camera and be like these dudes
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: who just do solo pods and just look at the,
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: camera go topic to.
- 1:45:41Speaker 2: Topic hope people are maybe, laughing entertaining them like a tailor.
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: Can but, yeah like that's the that's the thing about
- 1:45:48Speaker 3: doing face face, first WHEN i do it in the
- 1:45:51Speaker 3: in the, studio it's you, truly you truly don't know
- 1:45:56Speaker 3: how things are, Received like what's good is there's two
- 1:45:59Speaker 3: people you have no. Clue, yeah like there's two people
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: that work. There so like sometimes you're hear in the, background,
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: ah you know WHAT i mean and stuff like, That you're, Like,
- 1:46:06Speaker 3: okay at least that was at least that was.
- 1:46:08Speaker 2: Decent but right you're, like, yeah that was.
- 1:46:13Speaker 3: Funny but that's the and that's the strange part about
- 1:46:18Speaker 3: entertaining and doing things by. Yourself but it's also kind
- 1:46:23Speaker 3: of the rewarding part is the, learning you, know and
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: you also have to be willing to. FAIL i, think,
- 1:46:33Speaker 3: YEAH i think WHEN i look at WHEN i look at,
- 1:46:37Speaker 3: football like, football there was no decision making for me
- 1:46:42Speaker 3: and whether or NOT i was going to try to
- 1:46:44Speaker 3: do something in, football, right, honestly it's like only one
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: thing you can try to do is make a team and.
- 1:46:48Speaker 3: Play but there was never there was never a question, of,
- 1:46:51Speaker 3: Like i'm going to give my all to this because
- 1:46:55Speaker 3: that was about that was so much about. Me i've
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: loved it SINCE i was four years, old like SINCE
- 1:46:59Speaker 3: I i knew it was a. SPORT i loved, it and
- 1:47:01Speaker 3: SO i was going to play it as long AS
- 1:47:03Speaker 3: i felt LIKE i. Could and then WHEN i COULDN'T
- 1:47:05Speaker 3: i was able to leave it alone BECAUSE i was, like,
- 1:47:07Speaker 3: Man i'm an undrafted. DUDE i got thirteen. Years, Man
- 1:47:10Speaker 3: i've been to Two Super. BOWLS i was, LIKE i
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: played way longer THAN i was supposed. TO i got
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: every ounce out of this BODY i. COULD i got no.
- 1:47:18Speaker 2: More i'm.
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: Okay and it's never a day Where i'll watch it
- 1:47:21Speaker 3: And i'm, like, MAN i miss it BECAUSE i, don't you,
- 1:47:23Speaker 3: KNOW i. DO i do miss this, Right AND i
- 1:47:26Speaker 3: get it sometimes through this OR i got it talking
- 1:47:28Speaker 3: To troy and talking To ike and you, know With James,
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: Now LIKE i STILL i get it WHEN i train
- 1:47:33Speaker 3: the boys and we're on facetimes and text messages talking
- 1:47:36Speaker 3: about the game and what they need to do with
- 1:47:38Speaker 3: some of the stories y'all just laughing at you.
- 1:47:40Speaker 2: Know SO i still get. That BUT i don't play,
- 1:47:43Speaker 2: football and that's.
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: Fine the media side has been different to me because
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: LIKE i actually got to, try you, know and and,
- 1:47:54Speaker 3: everything everything for me with media is, extrinsic not intrinsic
- 1:48:00Speaker 3: in the sense that most things aren't driven by by.
- 1:48:04Speaker 3: Me they're driven by what you get from doing, things you,
- 1:48:08Speaker 3: know which is like that's frightening to. Me you see
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: What i'm, saying because you, know you go out and
- 1:48:15Speaker 3: you do face, first and for, me, LIKE i don't
- 1:48:18Speaker 3: look at the. NUMBERS i don't care who's watching or who's.
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: Listening but you have other people who are involved in
- 1:48:23Speaker 3: your life or like you, know like maybe my wife
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: like did you check to see who's? Watching And i'm, like,
- 1:48:27Speaker 3: NAH i don't want. To but to, her she. Can't
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: she can't fathom doing something not caring how it's, doing
- 1:48:35Speaker 3: not caring how it's being, viewed not caring if you
- 1:48:37Speaker 3: can make.
- 1:48:38Speaker 2: Money but to, me it's like it just feels, good.
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: Right football always felt good to, me whether LIKE i
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: got cut or, not or WHETHER i played really well or.
- 1:48:48Speaker 3: Not you, know like there were DAYS i didn't play really,
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: well BUT i walked out AND i was, like On,
- 1:48:52Speaker 3: MONDAY i woke up at, FIVE i did this and
- 1:48:54Speaker 3: it lasted all the way till two in the. Morning get,
- 1:48:57Speaker 3: treatment and that's WHAT i was supposed to do On.
- 1:48:58Speaker 3: TUESDAY i did this On wednesday, day and that was
- 1:49:00Speaker 3: fulfilling to me because the schedule and the regiment and
- 1:49:03Speaker 3: the requirements THAT i put on myself was so much
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: higher than the expectations other people put on. ME i
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: had to meet THOSE i didn't have to meet other
- 1:49:11Speaker 3: people's expectations or do things they. Liked it was about, me,
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: Right and so in this it's like if you come on,
- 1:49:18Speaker 3: here bro and you're putting your heart into busting with the,
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: boys yet it doesn't matter necessarily how you feel about.
- 1:49:26Speaker 3: It it's, like does it grow? Right do the executives
- 1:49:30Speaker 3: want another year of? It DO i get another? Contract
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: DO i get to do?
- 1:49:34Speaker 2: More?
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: Right and that's a scary that's a scary. Deal whereas it's,
- 1:49:41Speaker 3: like this is one of those jobs where whether whether
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: you're right or, wrong whether you win or, lose is
- 1:49:48Speaker 3: not based on. You that's the dope part of, football.
- 1:49:51Speaker 3: RIGHT i work all week AND i have a TRUE
- 1:49:55Speaker 3: i have a true understanding of how well as a
- 1:49:57Speaker 3: group we did our. Job BECAUSE i could look up
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: and look at the score you know What i'm.
- 1:50:03Speaker 2: Saying that was.
- 1:50:04Speaker 3: Something there was something so like so comforting to, me
- 1:50:09Speaker 3: and that it was, like, man you know, what at
- 1:50:11Speaker 3: the end of the, Day i'm gonna look up at
- 1:50:13Speaker 3: this scoreboard AND i know whether or not we did
- 1:50:15Speaker 3: our job well or. Not OR i could go in
- 1:50:17Speaker 3: On monday and we're gonna watch this film And i'll
- 1:50:19Speaker 3: know whether or NOT i did my job well or.
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: Not that's not how this junk.
- 1:50:22Speaker 3: Works and so when you're talking about doing a pod
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: by yourself or watching people who sit like a dude
- 1:50:27Speaker 3: WHO i truly admire Is Colin, Coward.
- 1:50:31Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Exactly that's a great. Example.
- 1:50:34Speaker 3: Bro dude just sits at a desk and bum bum
- 1:50:38Speaker 3: bum bum bum bum bumb like freaking issue to issue,
- 1:50:43Speaker 3: right different like different, thoughts and it's all his and
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: and WHETHER i disagree with him or agree with him or,
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: not they're so well explained and so well thought. Out
- 1:50:54Speaker 3: and he does it for two or three hours On, monday.
- 1:50:56Speaker 2: And guess, what he come back and do it again On.
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: Tuesday and then it's win like that junkst to, me
- 1:51:01Speaker 3: it's like this dude is truly giving himself and like
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: we're buying it like that's like that's that's a special.
- 1:51:09Speaker 3: Deal and SO i, think, man with with, this this
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: is truly like doing the, podcast doing the stuff with THE,
- 1:51:19Speaker 3: Dc LIKE i can be, honest it's been, fun BUT
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: i know that all of these things had to happen
- 1:51:26Speaker 3: at the right time for, Me LIKE i wasn't ready
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: for this in twenty and. Sixteen you know What i'm.
- 1:51:30Speaker 3: SAYING i wasn't ready for this in twenty and, Seventeen
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: like twenty and sixteen, SEVENTEEN i was trying to find
- 1:51:35Speaker 3: my voice at my real, job and to where now
- 1:51:38Speaker 3: it's LIKE i feel free enough to where man LIKE
- 1:51:41Speaker 3: i could just be, Me like if you if you
- 1:51:44Speaker 3: were On busting with The, boys like the YEAR i,
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: retired it wouldn't have been this, show RIGHT i, mean
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: and then to where now it's like like it still
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: would have been me and, you but the conversation would
- 1:51:55Speaker 3: have been so much more different BECAUSE i was, like
- 1:51:58Speaker 3: this is what they know me as right, here LIKE
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: i can't really in a, BOX.
- 1:52:02Speaker 2: I can't really mess this.
- 1:52:04Speaker 3: Up to whereas Now i'm like if they watch this
- 1:52:07Speaker 3: podcast and and and they Watch busting with The boys and.
- 1:52:10Speaker 2: They're, like man, LIKE i don't LIKE i don't even
- 1:52:12Speaker 2: know why he liked. IT i don't even like.
- 1:52:14Speaker 3: Him don't hey, like don't give a, Dang like you
- 1:52:19Speaker 3: ain't got to, right but you can't listen to me
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: and be like you don't agree with these things because
- 1:52:24Speaker 3: they my, Stories you know What i'm, saying like don't
- 1:52:27Speaker 3: give a dang who, cares and like that's the dope
- 1:52:30Speaker 3: thing about what y'all, do, Man and like that's WHY
- 1:52:32Speaker 3: i like the moll bust is like it's, important you,
- 1:52:35Speaker 3: know like it's important that you make freaking. Decisions will
- 1:52:38Speaker 3: you know What i'm, saying, Nephew like we can you
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: know What i'm, Saying, like we can't just we can't
- 1:52:43Speaker 3: just live in the world to where you float around giving,
- 1:52:46Speaker 3: excuses you, Know and you, KNOW i got LIKE i
- 1:52:50Speaker 3: got D m On twitter from this guy who's like
- 1:52:53Speaker 3: actually super cool AND i guess he reports or. WHATEVER
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: i asked a simple question On twitter yesterday WHICH i
- 1:52:57Speaker 3: thought was thought provoking and can have some, conversations and
- 1:53:00Speaker 3: people got pissed.
- 1:53:01Speaker 2: Off, right simple.
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: QUESTION i think Tom brady's had the greatest career of
- 1:53:04Speaker 3: any quarterback that's ever. Lived, Right, therefore in our, game
- 1:53:07Speaker 3: the most important, position, right the position that people care
- 1:53:10Speaker 3: about the. Most you make the most, money you have
- 1:53:12Speaker 3: to protect the. Most if you've had the best career
- 1:53:14Speaker 3: at that, position you are the. Goat, Right he's the
- 1:53:17Speaker 3: greatest of all. Time YET i don't know If Tom
- 1:53:21Speaker 3: brady has a characteristic one individual characteristic THAT i believe
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: he has more of than anybody. Where IF i was
- 1:53:27Speaker 3: building a super, quarterback i'd picked that characteristic Of Tom.
- 1:53:30Speaker 3: Brady people felt LIKE i was Downing Tom brady WHEN i.
- 1:53:35Speaker 3: Wasn't it was really a compliment because how does a
- 1:53:37Speaker 3: man accomplish all of this? Crap yet you don't have
- 1:53:40Speaker 3: the strongest, arm not necessarily the. Smartest you can't improve
- 1:53:44Speaker 3: and get out of the. Pocket LIKE i was thinking
- 1:53:45Speaker 3: about all these things like other, people and like this
- 1:53:48Speaker 3: dude who like tweets me all the, time sends me
- 1:53:50Speaker 3: all these things in the, business is like going on
- 1:53:54Speaker 3: this grant AND i was, like, bro what the hell
- 1:53:55Speaker 3: are you?
- 1:53:56Speaker 2: Arguing like it's.
- 1:53:57Speaker 3: Actually not even an argument in the, Tweet i'm asking
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: for your trade that you would pick On Tom, Brady, like,
- 1:54:02Speaker 3: right you might Pick Josh allen's. Arms you know Of
- 1:54:05Speaker 3: Patrick mahomes's, Arm Aaron rodgers, accuracy drew, whatever, right and you,
- 1:54:10Speaker 3: know maybe you Picked tom's, brain BUT i wouldn't Because
- 1:54:13Speaker 3: i'd Picked peyton's, right you know What i'm. Saying so,
- 1:54:16Speaker 3: like but people get mad about that and then they
- 1:54:20Speaker 3: look at you like you're. Wrong you're criticizing the goat you're.
- 1:54:24Speaker 3: Nothing you only won one Super, bowl you only been
- 1:54:26Speaker 3: to one Pro you.
- 1:54:27Speaker 2: Know What i'm, Saying she ain't Been. Anne i'm asking a, question.
- 1:54:31Speaker 2: Stupid and on the other side of, that you Ain't.
- 1:54:34Speaker 2: Tom he ain't your, family he ain't your. Friend he
- 1:54:36Speaker 2: don't even know who you. Are what you mad? For
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: you can't, throw you can't you cannot. Throw but you
- 1:54:44Speaker 2: mad at.
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: Me and THEN i think about all this stuff And i'm,
- 1:54:46Speaker 3: like but that's the, life and it's actually the life.
- 1:54:50Speaker 2: That you want to get to because you want people
- 1:54:52Speaker 2: to be moved by what you. Do that is our.
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: Job our job is to move.
- 1:54:58Speaker 3: People if we don't move, people people don't, watch then
- 1:55:01Speaker 3: people don't. Care and what happens is you actually only
- 1:55:06Speaker 3: get to start moving people when you stop caring about
- 1:55:09Speaker 3: which way you move. Them because IF i only want
- 1:55:12Speaker 3: to move you one, way THEN i gotta work at,
- 1:55:14Speaker 3: that you see What i'm. Saying but If i'm just
- 1:55:17Speaker 3: gonna be me And i'm gonna let you figure out
- 1:55:19Speaker 3: what side you fall, on Then i'm.
- 1:55:21Speaker 2: Winning and you know that's WHY i get to come
- 1:55:25Speaker 2: on the. Bus you're trying to tell me, that, saying,
- 1:55:28Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i just need to pick my four
- 1:55:31Speaker 2: no that that that was definitely a.
- 1:55:32Speaker 3: Pepto and, listen you, know maybe what we, do, man you,
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: know IF i do IF i do well, enough and
- 1:55:36Speaker 3: the tier ones at least except me, enough we just
- 1:55:39Speaker 3: come back and do this once a, year and THEN
- 1:55:41Speaker 3: i can have you And taylor were friends of the
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: show and one friend of the, show and then Once
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: taylor is, free because LIKE i travel with the, Pot,
- 1:55:48Speaker 3: yeah we could do a busting with the boys face
- 1:55:51Speaker 3: first combo and we'll just have a good time and
- 1:55:55Speaker 3: we'll talk And i'll have my own questions for you
- 1:55:57Speaker 3: And taylor and y'all have y'all questions for, me and
- 1:56:00Speaker 3: Then taylor can be, like, oh But i'll treat you
- 1:56:02Speaker 3: LIKE i Treated Josh.
- 1:56:03Speaker 2: Norman i'll walk over to the, sideline and then when
- 1:56:06Speaker 2: you walk up on, me you'll look like you might
- 1:56:08Speaker 2: just be creating that you must just be assuming.
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: That. Ya you'll look like a tall little person and
- 1:56:12Speaker 3: you'll be looking up at me like, this and Then
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: i'll ignore you Because i'm all big AND i can
- 1:56:16Speaker 3: beat you up IF i want it. To but then
- 1:56:17Speaker 3: IF i beat you, Up i'm dead, wrong Because i'm
- 1:56:19Speaker 3: three twenty and you're one ninety, Nine and what DO
- 1:56:21Speaker 3: i get if you know all these things and all
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: those things might happen and it might be more. Entertaining
- 1:56:26Speaker 3: But i'm just, saying that's, that AND i belong If
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: i'm not on what is another mountain with people's? Faces
- 1:56:35Speaker 3: It's mount, busmore, dude it's a different. Mountain it's a different.
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: Mountain you saw how many heads were on that mountain
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: that wasn't?
- 1:56:42Speaker 2: Okay by?
- 1:56:44Speaker 1: What by?
- 1:56:45Speaker 2: Not how many seats are on this?
- 1:56:47Speaker 3: Bus?
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: Ah it gives me a good it gives me a better. Number,
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: again it just said all it all depends on the.
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: Criteria you would one hundred get to thirty if you
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: had eight. Seats, hell, yeah, DUDE i should make a.
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: Roster it's fifty.
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: Three you can tear. It we could tear.
- 1:57:09Speaker 3: It.
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: Yeah we could do a first Team All, bus Second
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: Team All Bus Honorable Mention All bus.
- 1:57:18Speaker 2: And you can have. Eleven you can have. Eleven you could,
- 1:57:20Speaker 2: yeah and you could have. Eleven you can have.
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: Eleven, Right so if you go first second Team ottawale
- 1:57:24Speaker 3: mention eleven in each what if you could only get?
- 1:57:27Speaker 2: One just one? ONE i can only vote One Podcast
- 1:57:32Speaker 2: Darren waller to, me that's a note to. Me that's for,
- 1:57:36Speaker 2: me that's my first. Thrain for, yeah that's my personal
- 1:57:39Speaker 2: like hearing his, story hearing.
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: How open he was about him talking about mental, health,
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: like you, KNOW i know the world's kind of shifting
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: and doing all a lot more mental health stuff and
- 1:57:47Speaker 1: speaking on it and everything like. That but he was
- 1:57:50Speaker 1: one of the first kind of people THAT i sat
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: and listened to speaking that kind of avenue doing it
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: too on somebody who was passed out in A sprouse
- 1:57:58Speaker 1: parking lot and then going to. Rehab and now he's you,
- 1:58:02Speaker 1: know made a big contract with The. Raiders SO i
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: feel Like Darren waller has been my favorite. PODCAST i got.
- 1:58:07Speaker 3: TO i got to, KNOW i gonna know where to. Go,
- 1:58:10Speaker 3: OKAY i literally flew in for. THIS i got to
- 1:58:13Speaker 3: do his podcast last.
- 1:58:15Speaker 2: Week. Darren here's a.
- 1:58:16Speaker 3: Podcast Called Comeback stories with a guy Named Donnie. Starkins
- 1:58:20Speaker 3: and So donnie is his yoga and meditation, coach and
- 1:58:24Speaker 3: he's Also Tyron matthews yoga and meditation to Have tyron
- 1:58:28Speaker 3: on and he he actually called me on my way over, here.
- 1:58:31Speaker 2: And, tyron, yes did you tell Him i'm about to do?
- 1:58:35Speaker 3: NO i, didn't BUT i can tell. HIM i tell
- 1:58:36Speaker 3: him he loves he loves this type of.
- 1:58:38Speaker 2: Stuff And.
- 1:58:40Speaker 3: Donnie actually is my son's yoga and meditation coach because
- 1:58:44Speaker 3: he's In, arizona and my son's kind of like a big.
- 1:58:46Speaker 3: Thinker AND i was, like, bro you need to, relax
- 1:58:48Speaker 3: Like i'm thinking so much LIKE i ruined you as a,
- 1:58:51Speaker 3: child the fact THAT i would sit in the stands
- 1:58:53Speaker 3: and you tell your coach hold, on, SEKE i go
- 1:58:55Speaker 3: talk to my dad and you to come. Over and
- 1:58:58Speaker 3: we talked coverages so and uh and so like you
- 1:59:02Speaker 3: go on man and it's it's and it's it's it's super. Cool.
- 1:59:05Speaker 3: Uh they kind of send you like they have a
- 1:59:08Speaker 3: list of questions about you, know your your moments of
- 1:59:12Speaker 3: pain and different. Things and it was therapeutic for, me you,
- 1:59:16Speaker 3: know LIKE i ended up talking like a ton and
- 1:59:20Speaker 3: just much like, THIS i get so enamored with the
- 1:59:23Speaker 3: people working with at the, Time LIKE i started Asking darren,
- 1:59:26Speaker 3: questions you, know and he was and he answered and you,
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: know and then like toward the, end he's, like, bro
- 1:59:31Speaker 3: like just listening to you like just was a wealth of,
- 1:59:34Speaker 3: knowledge like you inspired. Me AND i was, like, nah,
- 1:59:36Speaker 3: dog LIKE i ain't come through none of the things
- 1:59:38Speaker 3: that you, have and to now be in this, point
- 1:59:41Speaker 3: in this place in your life where you're using your
- 1:59:43Speaker 3: story to share other stories that mirror. YOURS i was,
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: like that's what it's truly. About and SO i agree with. You,
- 1:59:51Speaker 3: man he's a he's a he's a fascinating human along
- 1:59:54Speaker 3: with being a, shoot super duper. Talented and so if
- 2:00:00Speaker 3: he's he's your number one, bro like you got a
- 2:00:02Speaker 3: good number.
- 2:00:03Speaker 2: One, WELL i appreciate. That like his, story like he's
- 2:00:05Speaker 2: on the pot of.
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: Me and you know this, too like playing it you
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: played AT, Lsu like he's telling stories about beeing, it
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: like getting p from other, dudes getting somebody to pee
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: in his, cup being drunk on the, sideline like you
- 2:00:18Speaker 1: just you, know when somebody says that you know that
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: teammate or that athlete that you think, about like what
- 2:00:24Speaker 1: you saw in, college and to go from somebody who
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: has a who had a mindset like, that cause again
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: you like, understand you're, like this dude ain't doing shit if.
- 2:00:33Speaker 2: He continues to do it like, this like this is
- 2:00:35Speaker 2: a bad influence on my.
- 2:00:36Speaker 1: LIFE i need to not be around that guy to
- 2:00:39Speaker 1: like blacking, out passing, out o ding in a parking
- 2:00:41Speaker 1: lot to now being on where he's gotten as a.
- 2:00:44Speaker 1: Human it's just it's just so interesting because it's, ultimately
- 2:00:48Speaker 1: like you, said they ask questions where you're basically talking to,
- 2:00:50Speaker 1: yourself like you having that deep ass conversation with yourself
- 2:00:54Speaker 1: and figuring out building and growing from there about what
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: emotions me and to you and shit like.
- 2:00:58Speaker 2: THAT i just find it super. INTERESTING i think that.
- 2:01:03Speaker 3: Mortality is like a very sobering. Deal you, know WHEN
- 2:01:11Speaker 3: i dealt, with you, know losing my organs and.
- 2:01:15Speaker 1: Please talk about, that oh thank, god sickle. Cell, yeah
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: learning about that and become that near death.
- 2:01:22Speaker 2: Experience it's a good. Story.
- 2:01:23Speaker 3: Yeah so In, denver you, know we're In. Denver i'm
- 2:01:25Speaker 3: going before With washington like year. Four and WHEN i got,
- 2:01:29Speaker 3: BACK i kept telling the. TRAINERS i was, like, hey,
- 2:01:31Speaker 3: man what's under your REAL i was, like what is? This,
- 2:01:34Speaker 3: like what's under? There and they kept laughing at. ME
- 2:01:36Speaker 3: i was, like, nah, bro like something's. Wrong and so
- 2:01:38Speaker 3: we get To. Friday i've been practicing the whole week
- 2:01:40Speaker 3: getting burned up. Too it's the worst to get burned
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: up by scout. Team you know What i'm Saying i'm
- 2:01:44Speaker 3: getting burned, up And psyche he's all, off like he's,
- 2:01:47Speaker 3: terrible and so they sent me to the. Doctor they
- 2:01:50Speaker 3: give me, This they make you drink that, stuff put
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: you in the LITTLE ct machine or, whatever and they're, like,
- 2:01:54Speaker 3: oh you have a spleen. Contusion AND i was, like, oh, okay,
- 2:01:57Speaker 3: cool to give me some. MEDICINE i can't go to the.
- 2:01:58Speaker 3: Game play the next, week going To denver the next.
- 2:02:01Speaker 3: Time first time In. PITTSBURGH i make the joke leaving the,
- 2:02:04Speaker 3: HOUSE i hope my spleen is good this, time just being,
- 2:02:08Speaker 3: stupid like Because i'm. Stupid and, so, man we're getting
- 2:02:11Speaker 3: on and play the whole. Game we're getting on the
- 2:02:12Speaker 3: bus after the plane after the, game And Ryan gross
- 2:02:16Speaker 3: was the trainer AND i was, like, hey, man like
- 2:02:19Speaker 3: my spleen, hurts and he bust out. Laughing, Right he's, like,
- 2:02:22Speaker 3: ah how you know. THAT i was, like it happened,
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: before and it happened here.
- 2:02:25Speaker 2: Too it's.
- 2:02:26Speaker 3: Weird doctor comes. Up i'm sitting in MY, CDs you,
- 2:02:29Speaker 3: know doing all. This they get your, BAGS i get my.
- 2:02:33Speaker 2: Bags we go to the.
- 2:02:33Speaker 3: Hospital they're kind of trying to figure out what. Happens
- 2:02:35Speaker 3: SO i had what's called a spleening, farction which means
- 2:02:37Speaker 3: your spleen. Dies, Right so if you have sickle cell
- 2:02:40Speaker 3: for people that can see, us, right your blood looks
- 2:02:43Speaker 3: like this.
- 2:02:43Speaker 2: Right this is like your.
- 2:02:44Speaker 3: Blood when your blood, sickles it turns this way, Right
- 2:02:47Speaker 3: so it's like an actual like a boomerang, Almost and
- 2:02:49Speaker 3: so it doesn't pass through the vessels the right. Way
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: so when it gets into your, spleen which is like
- 2:02:53Speaker 3: the largest organ in your immune, system parts of it could.
- 2:02:55Speaker 2: Die so the part.
- 2:02:56Speaker 3: Dies but they tell, me like the next WEEK i
- 2:02:58Speaker 3: go get the, Test they're, like you should be able to,
- 2:03:00Speaker 3: Play like you'll be, Back you'll be. Okay and So
- 2:03:02Speaker 3: i'm running. It i'm trying to jog around the. FIELD
- 2:03:04Speaker 3: i practice every, day and every day they're sending me
- 2:03:07Speaker 3: home at like twelve, o'clock, bro cause it's. Awful so,
- 2:03:09Speaker 3: man like a month and a half or so go, by,
- 2:03:11Speaker 3: bro and like nothing. Happens like they keep testing, me nothing's,
- 2:03:15Speaker 3: wrong but in this TIME i went from two oh
- 2:03:19Speaker 3: five to one, seventy you know What i'm. Saying So i'm, like,
- 2:03:23Speaker 3: bruh something's. Wrong like one day the doctor comes, In
- 2:03:25Speaker 3: doug he goes through like all my numbers and then
- 2:03:28Speaker 3: gives me the paper and he's, like i'll listen to
- 2:03:30Speaker 3: you complain. Now AND i was, like, Bro i'm not,
- 2:03:32Speaker 3: complaining like something's wrong with. Me but they couldn't find it.
- 2:03:35Speaker 3: Right and so one, day, man one Day i'm in the.
- 2:03:39Speaker 3: House were Playing. Cincinnati OBVIOUSLY i don't get to. Go
- 2:03:42Speaker 3: my mom's up helping my wife with the kids and,
- 2:03:45Speaker 3: stuff AND i CALL i Call. YANK i was, Like,
- 2:03:47Speaker 3: yan do you have a window? Open and she's like.
- 2:03:50Speaker 3: No so Like i'm shaking and not like, shivering, Bro
- 2:03:53Speaker 3: Like i'm, shaking like the beds. MOVING i was, like something's.
- 2:03:55Speaker 3: Open it's freezing in. Here so they get like all
- 2:03:58Speaker 3: these covers, man like they wrap towel around my head and.
- 2:04:02Speaker 3: Stuff and so my wife goes to get the blow,
- 2:04:05Speaker 3: dryer but she had blow dryed our hair on cool
- 2:04:07Speaker 3: so when she put it under the, cover it was.
- 2:04:09Speaker 3: Cold AND i was Like Jesus, christ like you know
- 2:04:11Speaker 3: WHAT i. Mean and SO i was, like, hey that's not.
- 2:04:12Speaker 3: It and so, man So i'm shaking my mom LIKE
- 2:04:16Speaker 3: i told, you my mom praised THE. Toni so she's
- 2:04:18Speaker 3: like Rubbing holy all on my head and she's. Praying
- 2:04:20Speaker 3: SO i just start. Praying, Man AND i was, like you,
- 2:04:24Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like take care of my, kids you.
- 2:04:26Speaker 3: KNOW i was, like bless my, Son LIKE i want
- 2:04:28Speaker 3: to be a great. MAN i wanted to be a great,
- 2:04:29Speaker 3: husband you, know allow him to you, know allow him
- 2:04:33Speaker 3: to take care of his sisters and his. Mom AND
- 2:04:36Speaker 3: i was, like allow my girls to understand how to
- 2:04:39Speaker 3: be independent and to find a great. MAN i was,
- 2:04:41Speaker 3: like allowing my wife to find a man to take
- 2:04:43Speaker 3: care of, him to take care of. HER i was,
- 2:04:45Speaker 3: like only one. Stipulation he can't be more attractive THAN i, am.
- 2:04:50Speaker 4: You.
- 2:04:50Speaker 2: Know and THEN i was, LIKE i JUST i just
- 2:04:53Speaker 2: remember it so. Vividly.
- 2:04:54Speaker 3: MAN i was, like And, god Anything i've ever done
- 2:04:57Speaker 3: that wasn't the way you wanted me to do. It
- 2:04:59Speaker 3: Anyway i've ever harmed you Or i've let you, down
- 2:05:02Speaker 3: just please forgive.
- 2:05:03Speaker 2: Me and you're thinking this is. IT i THOUGHT i was.
- 2:05:06Speaker 3: Dying and THEN i, said And i'm. Ready LIKE i
- 2:05:10Speaker 3: tell the story so often now because people ask about.
- 2:05:12Speaker 3: It AFTER i SAID i was, ready it was no
- 2:05:17Speaker 3: LESS i, mean no more than point zero zero one.
- 2:05:21Speaker 3: SECONDS i stopped. SHAKING i wasn't, cold no, more none of,
- 2:05:26Speaker 3: that you. Know and like in that moment, THOUGH i was, like,
- 2:05:30Speaker 3: sheesh you, know LIKE i worked all my life like.
- 2:05:32Speaker 2: That that was year.
- 2:05:33Speaker 3: Seven LIKE i got my you, know a good deal
- 2:05:35Speaker 3: with The, steelers and you, know we had a big
- 2:05:37Speaker 3: house and cars and. Stuff AND i was, LIKE i
- 2:05:40Speaker 3: didn't really pray about none of that, stuff you know
- 2:05:42Speaker 3: What i'm, Saying LIKE i wasn't even really LIKE i
- 2:05:44Speaker 3: didn't REALLY i wasn't even thankful for any of, it
- 2:05:47Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying LIKE i prayed about the
- 2:05:48Speaker 3: things that were.
- 2:05:49Speaker 2: Important And so.
- 2:05:52Speaker 3: About two and a half weeks, LATER i called a
- 2:05:56Speaker 3: doctor WHO i had seen a ton of, times and
- 2:05:59Speaker 3: he was In New york AND i was, like, hey,
- 2:06:00Speaker 3: MAN i need noth. Test and you could tell in his, Voice,
- 2:06:03Speaker 3: bro he was so tired of, me you know What i'm.
- 2:06:05Speaker 3: Saying he's, like all, RIGHT i set it up for, You.
- 2:06:07Speaker 2: Ryan you.
- 2:06:08Speaker 3: Know i'm, like you could just. Tell he was, Like
- 2:06:10Speaker 3: i've seen you all these. Times nothing's wrong with, you
- 2:06:14Speaker 3: you know What i'm. Saying so about an hour later
- 2:06:17Speaker 3: he calls and he's like where are? You AND i was,
- 2:06:20Speaker 3: like we're in the. Car he's, like don't pack a,
- 2:06:22Speaker 3: bag don't go to your, house go to the. Hospital
- 2:06:24Speaker 3: they're waiting on.
- 2:06:25Speaker 2: You AND i was, like all this.
- 2:06:27Speaker 3: Sucks so they bring me to the. Hospital and so
- 2:06:31Speaker 3: the first, night this lady walks in the. Room she's
- 2:06:33Speaker 3: the infectious disease, doctor, right AND i have like this
- 2:06:37Speaker 3: this like little bulb in, me, right and she like
- 2:06:40Speaker 3: opens it, up, bro and she's like smelling it and
- 2:06:42Speaker 3: like she's, like, oh, yeah that's. Infection but they wanted
- 2:06:45Speaker 3: to see what the infection, was you know WHAT i,
- 2:06:47Speaker 3: Mean and so they could figure it. Out but they
- 2:06:50Speaker 3: take the skin and so my spleen was four times
- 2:06:53Speaker 3: the size of a normal spleen because it was. Infected
- 2:06:55Speaker 3: and so that's WHY i couldn't eat because of that
- 2:06:57Speaker 3: closed my stomach and that's WHY i was losing all.
- 2:06:59Speaker 3: That so, man where they're doing this, thing the doctor's,
- 2:07:02Speaker 3: like if we cut you open and take this, out
- 2:07:04Speaker 3: you'll never play football. Again because he was, like because
- 2:07:07Speaker 3: you're because you're training and stuff your core whatever. Whatever
- 2:07:09Speaker 3: so they vacuum. It so they take me, down they
- 2:07:13Speaker 3: put me to. Sleep they got like this little vacuum
- 2:07:14Speaker 3: they vacuum and coming to room, cool they got.
- 2:07:17Speaker 2: It they didn't get enough to do it.
- 2:07:18Speaker 3: Laparoscopoly SO i go back RIGHT i wake up in
- 2:07:22Speaker 3: the middle of it this, time, though and SO i
- 2:07:25Speaker 3: look at the doctor And i'm, like, HEY i was,
- 2:07:28Speaker 3: like he was, like can.
- 2:07:29Speaker 2: You he's, like can you take the? Pain that's what
- 2:07:32Speaker 2: he asked.
- 2:07:32Speaker 3: Me AND i asked the question any football player would,
- 2:07:35Speaker 3: ask AM i supposed to be able, to you, Know
- 2:07:39Speaker 3: and he's going, LIKE i, guess like it's up to.
- 2:07:41Speaker 3: You and that to me made it seem, like, well
- 2:07:45Speaker 3: normal humans do. This ain't no, wait, no, like no
- 2:07:48Speaker 3: normal human gonna do WHAT i. Can't SO i just
- 2:07:50Speaker 3: sit there and it hurts so, bad so much so
- 2:07:52Speaker 3: when they wheel me back in the, room immediately my
- 2:07:55Speaker 3: wife goes what happened because she could see it on my.
- 2:07:58Speaker 3: Face AND i didn't tell her right then because you,
- 2:08:00Speaker 3: know she's like in mama bear. Mode but THEN i
- 2:08:02Speaker 3: told her what happened or, whatever and then THEN i
- 2:08:06Speaker 3: asked the doctor LATER i wasn't supposed to be able
- 2:08:07Speaker 3: to take, it by the, way but he wanted to
- 2:08:09Speaker 3: try to get as much as he. Could, Yeah so
- 2:08:12Speaker 3: that that same, night, bro my fever goes to like
- 2:08:14Speaker 3: one hundred and, four right this. Team doctor tells the, nurse,
- 2:08:19Speaker 3: oh just give him some. Talent all this happens all the,
- 2:08:21Speaker 3: time because it was happening all the, Time like every
- 2:08:23Speaker 3: night i'd go to, sleep they'd wake. Up we wake
- 2:08:26Speaker 3: up at like to change all the sheets everything SO
- 2:08:29Speaker 3: i could and change my pajamas and stuff BECAUSE i
- 2:08:31Speaker 3: would be sleeping in. Sweat so, man we do that
- 2:08:34Speaker 3: and then, like h so that would winning on A.
- 2:08:36Speaker 3: Friday It's, monday and It's tuesday morning, now, Bro And
- 2:08:39Speaker 3: i'm in the bathroom And i'm throwing. Up you KNOW
- 2:08:42Speaker 3: i can say on this Show diary or. Everything it's
- 2:08:44Speaker 3: coming out of both. Ends, Bro i'm, like my fever's
- 2:08:47Speaker 3: high as. Hell AND i just told my wife.
- 2:08:49Speaker 2: Too.
- 2:08:49Speaker 3: MAN i was, Like i'm. Tired you know What i'm.
- 2:08:51Speaker 3: Saying it's Like i'm really, tired you. Know AND i was,
- 2:08:54Speaker 3: like and it's not Like i'm giving. UP i was,
- 2:08:56Speaker 3: Like i'm just, tired, babe you know What i'm. SAYING
- 2:08:58Speaker 3: i was, like whatever happens from, here, Like i'm cool with.
- 2:09:00Speaker 3: It and my doctor he looked Like Tom. Brady it's
- 2:09:03Speaker 3: called doctor Tom. Brady he walks, in he walks like
- 2:09:06Speaker 3: and he has seen me LIKE i had never, complained,
- 2:09:08Speaker 3: bro the whole TIME i was, There and he walked
- 2:09:09Speaker 3: into the bathroom and he's, Like i'm gonna take you,
- 2:09:11Speaker 3: now you, Know and so he goes, down he takes.
- 2:09:14Speaker 2: ME i see the doctor that put me to the.
- 2:09:16Speaker 3: Hospital the day, after he comes to visit me and
- 2:09:18Speaker 3: he tells, me he's, like had you not called me On, friday.
- 2:09:21Speaker 2: You wouldn't have made it through the. Weekend.
- 2:09:23Speaker 3: Fuck and so it was just like it was just you,
- 2:09:27Speaker 3: know it's one of those things that that shaped the
- 2:09:31Speaker 3: way like you look at, things you know What i'm.
- 2:09:34Speaker 3: Saying and that's, why Like i'm never, Bro i'm never
- 2:09:35Speaker 3: gonna die of, stress you know What i'm, Saying because
- 2:09:37Speaker 3: it's just like when the normal everyday things, happen like
- 2:09:44Speaker 3: those are normal everyday, things you know What i'm. Saying
- 2:09:47Speaker 3: like when when when you're dealing with the stuff that
- 2:09:50Speaker 3: like we all deal, with like just accept that as
- 2:09:54Speaker 3: part of, it, right because there's so much there's so
- 2:09:56Speaker 3: much else that could be going on or that you
- 2:09:59Speaker 3: could be dealing with that's so much bigger than what
- 2:10:04Speaker 3: every day. Is, like why are you gonna allow that
- 2:10:06Speaker 3: to change your? Mood why AM i gonna allow that
- 2:10:08Speaker 3: to affect the WAY i treat the, people the people around,
- 2:10:12Speaker 3: me and LIKE i have to and whenever something happens
- 2:10:15Speaker 3: AND i, do let it get me a little, frazzle
- 2:10:18Speaker 3: LIKE i get pissed off with myself BECAUSE i gotta
- 2:10:20Speaker 3: bring myself back to what it could, be you.
- 2:10:22Speaker 2: Know AND i think.
- 2:10:26Speaker 3: In telling that, story LIKE i love telling it in
- 2:10:29Speaker 3: the sense of it helps me, remember, like, man it
- 2:10:33Speaker 3: could be, worse you. Know and it's so, crazy like
- 2:10:36Speaker 3: all of my best, friends like only one friend came
- 2:10:38Speaker 3: to see me and my cousin right BECAUSE i wouldn't
- 2:10:43Speaker 3: tell anybody how SICK i, was you, know BECAUSE i
- 2:10:46Speaker 3: was in that mode of, like don't be a burden
- 2:10:49Speaker 3: to other, people, like you, Know and SO i, remember
- 2:10:52Speaker 3: like my best friend finally did see. Me he saw
- 2:10:54Speaker 3: it was like the next. Year and at this POINT
- 2:10:57Speaker 3: i had gained some weight. Too, BRO i was like one.
- 2:10:59Speaker 3: Seventies SO i, felt, whoa you know WHAT i. Mean he's, like,
- 2:11:02Speaker 3: man your hed biggest. Ship you know What i'm. Saying
- 2:11:04Speaker 3: he's like, yeah he was Like he's, like, bro what
- 2:11:08Speaker 3: Was he's, like you didn't tell me you were that.
- 2:11:09Speaker 3: Sick AND i was, like, Well it was one of
- 2:11:11Speaker 3: those things the doctors never told. ME i was that
- 2:11:15Speaker 3: sick though, too you know WHAT i. Mean and so,
- 2:11:17Speaker 3: like How i'm gonna call you and be, like, well,
- 2:11:19Speaker 3: man Like i'm, dying like you feel all this when
- 2:11:22Speaker 3: every Day i'm being told that nothing's wrong with. You
- 2:11:26Speaker 3: and so like that was just like that was that
- 2:11:28Speaker 3: was a Good that was a moment THAT i remember
- 2:11:31Speaker 3: because you, know two days, Later sean got, shot you,
- 2:11:36Speaker 3: know and you know a little bit after, That i'm
- 2:11:39Speaker 3: To Sean. Taylor, yeah you, Know Sean. Taylor and a
- 2:11:42Speaker 3: little bit after, that, man you get the call in
- 2:11:43Speaker 3: the morning two, words you know from one of my.
- 2:11:46Speaker 2: Friends he was like he, died you, know and that was.
- 2:11:49Speaker 3: It and then so now you're on the stairs, explaining you,
- 2:11:53Speaker 3: know explaining to your seven year old you, know when he,
- 2:11:57Speaker 3: asked he's like you know that like and Uncle, sean you,
- 2:12:01Speaker 3: know and so like you're dealing with the emotions of
- 2:12:03Speaker 3: like knowing you were in a bad. Place and then
- 2:12:08Speaker 3: and then you, know now your your friend passes and it's,
- 2:12:12Speaker 3: killed and he's killed doing something that all of us would,
- 2:12:15Speaker 3: do which is protecting your own you. Know and then
- 2:12:18Speaker 3: you're watching people ON tv basically say he deserves it
- 2:12:20Speaker 3: and say you live by the, sword you die by the,
- 2:12:22Speaker 3: sword and all this. Stuff AND i see those, PEOPLE
- 2:12:24Speaker 3: i see him. Now you, know they don't KNOW i hate,
- 2:12:27Speaker 3: him BUT i. Do you KNOW i work with some
- 2:12:29Speaker 3: of those. People oh. Damn, yeah, yeah like me and
- 2:12:32Speaker 3: those people ain't gonna ever be. Cool they don't, know
- 2:12:35Speaker 3: you know What i'm saying BECAUSE i try to keep.
- 2:12:36Speaker 3: IT i try to keep it professional, enough you know
- 2:12:39Speaker 3: What i'm saying When i'm around, Him but LIKE i
- 2:12:42Speaker 3: got like me and you, NAH i ain't gonna never be.
- 2:12:45Speaker 2: Nothing and SO.
- 2:12:49Speaker 3: I think that like that's, part like that that shaped
- 2:12:53Speaker 3: me not talking about people's. Character you know What i'm.
- 2:12:56Speaker 3: Saying that shapes, me not talking about People's it's LIKE
- 2:13:00Speaker 3: i knew that. Dude you, Know LIKE i love him,
- 2:13:03Speaker 3: still you know What i'm. Saying just because he's, GONE i,
- 2:13:06Speaker 3: MEAN i don't love him. Anymore so you would honor
- 2:13:08Speaker 3: him in practice every day because you were a towel
- 2:13:12Speaker 3: with this number and everything else on. It, yeah you
- 2:13:14Speaker 3: KNOW i would. Have like In, PITTSBURGH i tried to
- 2:13:17Speaker 3: get my jersey number. Changed they wouldn't let, me BUT
- 2:13:20Speaker 3: i were twenty one to every, practice my game shirt that,
- 2:13:24Speaker 3: wanted my pads had twenty one on, it my towels.
- 2:13:26Speaker 3: Did and so you, know like when you talk about
- 2:13:30Speaker 3: like the things That darren has has gone, THROUGH i
- 2:13:34Speaker 3: think it's just amazing that now that story is going
- 2:13:38Speaker 3: to inspire other people the way it inspired, you even
- 2:13:40Speaker 3: if and you ain't got to go through the same
- 2:13:41Speaker 3: stuff like you go through, stuff but even looking at,
- 2:13:44Speaker 3: that you could be, like, dang but it ain't, that
- 2:13:47Speaker 3: you know What i'm, Saying and the day you, dealing it's, like,
- 2:13:50Speaker 3: oh but it ain't, That and so many times like
- 2:13:51Speaker 3: that's Where i'm, At i'm, like you know, what it ain't, that.
- 2:13:54Speaker 3: Man and we have whether we like it or, not,
- 2:13:59Speaker 3: Bro like we have responsibilities, Now like once you take this,
- 2:14:02Speaker 3: microphone you have a, responsibility not a responsibility to change the,
- 2:14:07Speaker 3: world but a responsibility to be authentic enough to where
- 2:14:11Speaker 3: doing this actually, matters you know What i'm. Saying like the,
- 2:14:15Speaker 3: fun the, entertainment like all of that junk is important
- 2:14:18Speaker 3: to me because that junk is going to be eventually
- 2:14:21Speaker 3: like how we get, paid you know What i'm. Saying
- 2:14:24Speaker 3: but like WHEN i walk, AROUND i can be one
- 2:14:26Speaker 3: hundred percent candid about. This. Bro like WHEN i walk
- 2:14:29Speaker 3: around and you, know LIKE i make like the white
- 2:14:31Speaker 3: and black jokes and people get mad at, me But
- 2:14:34Speaker 3: i'm From New orleans and like that's what it, is
- 2:14:36Speaker 3: like light skinned jokes and all. That but like WHEN
- 2:14:39Speaker 3: i walk, around, bro like and brothers and like black
- 2:14:41Speaker 3: dudes come up to, me and they always, like, MAN
- 2:14:44Speaker 3: i appreciate the way like you stand, Strong LIKE i
- 2:14:46Speaker 3: appreciate the way that you're. AUTHENTIC i appreciate the way
- 2:14:49Speaker 3: that you represent, us that you represent where you come.
- 2:14:52Speaker 3: From like that matters to, me you, know because like
- 2:14:56Speaker 3: that that is WHERE i come, From and it. Doesn't
- 2:14:59Speaker 3: AND i hate the fact THAT i hate the fact
- 2:15:01Speaker 3: that loving WHO i, am loving Where i'm, from loving
- 2:15:07Speaker 3: people that look like, me that talk like, me that
- 2:15:11Speaker 3: deal with the same things THAT i deal with and
- 2:15:13Speaker 3: have dealt, with means to other, PEOPLE i don't love.
- 2:15:16Speaker 3: Them you know What i'm. SAYING i think for so,
- 2:15:20Speaker 3: long for so, long AND i know this not what
- 2:15:23Speaker 3: this show necessarily needs to be. About for so long
- 2:15:26Speaker 3: in this, country the people in power and the representation
- 2:15:32Speaker 3: of loving themselves mean you mean that you thought others
- 2:15:37Speaker 3: to be inferior loving my people doesn't MEAN i think
- 2:15:43Speaker 3: we're superior in any. Way it just MEANS i think
- 2:15:46Speaker 3: we are of value and of worth as, well the
- 2:15:49Speaker 3: same WAY i think you're of, worth AND i think
- 2:15:52Speaker 3: you're of, worth AND i think all of you of, worth,
- 2:15:56Speaker 3: RIGHT i just think we're all of worth. Equally so
- 2:16:00Speaker 3: in loving my, folks like that's where, like that's where
- 2:16:03Speaker 3: you want stuff to.
- 2:16:04Speaker 2: Go and so like you feel like like in our,
- 2:16:07Speaker 2: job LIKE i.
- 2:16:08Speaker 3: Don't LIKE i don't want to like you don't want
- 2:16:10Speaker 3: to feel that, responsibility you know What i'm, Saying LIKE
- 2:16:13Speaker 3: i don't want to be sitting in a, meeting, Bro
- 2:16:15Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want to be ON tv With paul
- 2:16:17Speaker 3: Finebamb and what was a very football, Question like he
- 2:16:20Speaker 3: was talking About Eli mann and we're talking About Eli
- 2:16:22Speaker 3: mann and not having it no more And Cam newton
- 2:16:24Speaker 3: not having it no, more, right and That eli was
- 2:16:27Speaker 3: like going to, retire and he said he was so,
- 2:16:29Speaker 3: sweet elis this And eli deserves? Dad eli deserves, This
- 2:16:34Speaker 3: AND i was, LIKE i, Agree eli deserves that for
- 2:16:38Speaker 3: what he has is as a man and for what
- 2:16:40Speaker 3: he did for The New York giants as a. Quarterback
- 2:16:43Speaker 3: he deserves those Roses, paul and then he started talking About.
- 2:16:47Speaker 3: Cam he's, like this guy has never cared about nothing but.
- 2:16:49Speaker 3: Itself who you, Know and it's like in that moment
- 2:16:53Speaker 3: ON tv with your, colleague like you got to make a,
- 2:16:56Speaker 3: decision you know What i'm, Saying like you got to
- 2:16:59Speaker 3: make a, decision like what Team i'm? On you, know
- 2:17:01Speaker 3: because you know, It like you're on this bus and
- 2:17:04Speaker 3: you gotta make Sure taylor looks. Good you gotta make
- 2:17:07Speaker 3: sure your guests look, good because if you f over your,
- 2:17:10Speaker 3: guests you're not gonna get. More you see What i'm,
- 2:17:13Speaker 3: Saying like If taylor doesn't feel a vibe with, you
- 2:17:15Speaker 3: like he's not gonna want to rock with you and
- 2:17:17Speaker 3: do the.
- 2:17:17Speaker 2: Show and you know you have a, value he has a. Value,
- 2:17:20Speaker 2: together you'll have a bigger.
- 2:17:21Speaker 3: Value and so Now i'm on this show With, Paul,
- 2:17:23Speaker 3: fine BAMB i gotta make a, decision like AM i
- 2:17:25Speaker 3: gonna shine On paul in this? Moment right and take
- 2:17:29Speaker 3: up For cam and talk about the differences in the
- 2:17:31Speaker 3: way that he saw these two. Men even though these
- 2:17:34Speaker 3: two men have both been pillars of their, communities these
- 2:17:36Speaker 3: two men have both given back in this manner of
- 2:17:38Speaker 3: way actually one of those men has reached a team
- 2:17:42Speaker 3: height that the other, hasn't but the other one has
- 2:17:44Speaker 3: reached the individual height that the other one never, had you.
- 2:17:48Speaker 3: Know and so NOW i got to explain that and
- 2:17:50Speaker 3: do it in a way to Where i'm true to
- 2:17:52Speaker 3: the TEAM i work with and not disrespectful to, that
- 2:17:54Speaker 3: but also true to the PEOPLE i represent every. Day
- 2:17:57Speaker 3: and like that's the, like that's the place you eventually
- 2:18:05Speaker 3: get to those decisions because like it's, life, right you,
- 2:18:09Speaker 3: Know and so like you're gonna keep moving, up, Bro
- 2:18:12Speaker 3: like y'all gonna keep doing, things and like that's WHY
- 2:18:15Speaker 3: i asked you that, question like do you have.
- 2:18:18Speaker 2: Like do you ever have a way you want to
- 2:18:22Speaker 2: steer the?
- 2:18:22Speaker 3: Show because it's basically exactly like talking about, Football like
- 2:18:27Speaker 3: you can't control this, seat, Right like you couldn't Control
- 2:18:31Speaker 3: Darren waller's, Seat like you can't control junior. Seat and
- 2:18:35Speaker 3: it's like you have to be true to. Yourself, obviously
- 2:18:39Speaker 3: you gotta be true to your. Fans but it's also, like,
- 2:18:43Speaker 3: man like what this person is, feeling like what this
- 2:18:46Speaker 3: person is sharing is the REASON i invited these people
- 2:18:49Speaker 3: on the bus is because in some ASPECT i believe
- 2:18:54Speaker 3: that this person had something to, share, Right and that's
- 2:18:58Speaker 3: your responsibility as a, host you but that's the responsibility
- 2:19:02Speaker 3: as a host, Too will because it's like LIKE i
- 2:19:06Speaker 3: came here for, you you, Know Like i'll be, HONEST
- 2:19:09Speaker 3: i ain't have This. Tuesday you know What i'm. Saying
- 2:19:12Speaker 3: i'm just gonna be straight.
- 2:19:13Speaker 2: UP i know you Know i'm talking ABOUT i got
- 2:19:14Speaker 2: the show or something like how does he figure?
- 2:19:16Speaker 3: Out like you know What i'm, saying, LIKE i ain't
- 2:19:17Speaker 3: have This? Tuesday so WHAT i did was, Like, okay
- 2:19:19Speaker 3: can we meet On? Monday can we do the show On?
- 2:19:22Speaker 3: Wednesday like you, know my old ladies Birthdays, Tomorrow i'm
- 2:19:25Speaker 3: going To, chicago LIKE i had all this stuff going
- 2:19:26Speaker 3: on because you, REMEMBER i was gonna try to do
- 2:19:28Speaker 3: it In july BECAUSE i wanted to be here When
- 2:19:30Speaker 3: taylor was, here right right, right BECAUSE i was, like,
- 2:19:32Speaker 3: man BECAUSE i already knew said it.
- 2:19:33Speaker 1: A certain day AND i was, like that's right after
- 2:19:35Speaker 1: the threshold where he goes to can, Right so if you,
- 2:19:37Speaker 1: come it'll just be me and.
- 2:19:38Speaker 2: You i'm with. That i'm just letting you, know.
- 2:19:40Speaker 3: Right, so but so once you said, that, though it
- 2:19:42Speaker 3: gave me a little leeway of, Like, OKAY i don't
- 2:19:44Speaker 3: have to rush to try to get down AND i
- 2:19:45Speaker 3: can do. It BUT i made this happen for because of,
- 2:19:48Speaker 3: you you know What i'm. Saying, like and BUT i
- 2:19:50Speaker 3: feel like that's the. WAY i feel like that's the
- 2:19:53Speaker 3: way it's supposed to. Be Man, like if you care for,
- 2:19:55Speaker 3: somebody like if you rock with, somebody like that juncture
- 2:19:59Speaker 3: show in your, actions, right that juncture show in the
- 2:20:03Speaker 3: way you live life and.
- 2:20:05Speaker 2: The way you respond and all these.
- 2:20:06Speaker 3: Things AND i think that's, eventually that's eventually how people,
- 2:20:10Speaker 3: win you know WHAT i? Mean, like people are gonna
- 2:20:12Speaker 3: watch your, Show man and like other athletes and like other,
- 2:20:15Speaker 3: people and they're gonna see damn when so and so
- 2:20:18Speaker 3: went on this, show LIKE i love What will, bought
- 2:20:21Speaker 3: What will. Brought so there's gonna be somebody who's dealt
- 2:20:23Speaker 3: with things Like Darren, waller who are athletes who wanna, say,
- 2:20:26Speaker 3: man If Will compton invites, me Like Tyron, mathew he's
- 2:20:29Speaker 3: been through. This OH i, Know Darren, Waller me And
- 2:20:31Speaker 3: darren at the same, guy that's the SHOW i can go.
- 2:20:33Speaker 3: On that show is not gonna play, me, right because
- 2:20:35Speaker 3: so many Times i've seen people go places and be,
- 2:20:37Speaker 3: LIKE i ain't never effing with that.
- 2:20:38Speaker 1: Again, Absolutely so, yeah, NO i definitely wanted to get
- 2:20:43Speaker 1: be at a place to where it's one of those
- 2:20:45Speaker 1: platforms that people use it just like this, nature whether
- 2:20:48Speaker 1: you're having fun and you want to have entertaining like you,
- 2:20:51Speaker 1: know be about the boys and all that, stuff or
- 2:20:52Speaker 1: there's something of value and substance that's behind that person's
- 2:20:55Speaker 1: story THAT i that we want to get to that
- 2:20:58Speaker 1: brings it out and kind of irons a light on.
- 2:21:00Speaker 1: It Darren waller being in an, EXAMPLE i, mean hell,
- 2:21:03Speaker 1: you it's like you, know IF i post out That
- 2:21:06Speaker 1: ryan's coming.
- 2:21:06Speaker 3: On obviously a lot of the tier ones that we refer.
- 2:21:10Speaker 3: To think of the one situation WHEN i know myself
- 2:21:14Speaker 3: like he's gonna come on the bus and we're gonna
- 2:21:16Speaker 3: have an incredible, conversation which we. Have so.
- 2:21:20Speaker 1: DIDE i appreciate you flying in for this, thing. Man
- 2:21:22Speaker 1: it means a, lot it. Does WHEN i first got
- 2:21:25Speaker 1: to learn From, ryan that was twenty, Fourteen SO i
- 2:21:31Speaker 1: had just started to start games because somebody had got,
- 2:21:36Speaker 1: hurt and SO i THINK i might only started like
- 2:21:39Speaker 1: five games that year with.
- 2:21:40Speaker 3: YOU i.
- 2:21:45Speaker 1: Was fired, up BUT i, remember LIKE i want to,
- 2:21:47Speaker 1: say maybe it Was. Laval and now That i'm, playing you,
- 2:21:50Speaker 1: know you're feeling a little bit more banged. Up you're
- 2:21:52Speaker 1: like trying to learn about, recovery like always trying to
- 2:21:55Speaker 1: be a sponge around like the vets that have been.
- 2:21:57Speaker 1: There and he's, like, oh cuz or he called me
- 2:22:00Speaker 1: because you call me. Nephew he's, like, Oh, becuz, Tomorrow
- 2:22:02Speaker 1: i'll take you To uncle R C's AND i go
- 2:22:04Speaker 1: over to THE rcs to get AN iv my first
- 2:22:06Speaker 1: time like getting AN. Iv ryan sitting, there he's getting,
- 2:22:09Speaker 1: this he's getting his feet massaged while he's an.
- 2:22:11Speaker 2: Ivy no you did? That you're not Getting did you
- 2:22:14Speaker 2: not get that kind of? Massage he wasn't even laid
- 2:22:17Speaker 2: up on the. Table you just you just sitting on
- 2:22:19Speaker 2: your cost the games on that, man just getting.
- 2:22:21Speaker 1: Massage but that's WHEN i started to learn about like
- 2:22:24Speaker 1: taking care of your body and everything. Else but, UH
- 2:22:27Speaker 1: i mean it was it was pivotal for. Me SO
- 2:22:29Speaker 1: i DO i appreciate you making the trip out here
- 2:22:31Speaker 1: and coming on busting with the.
- 2:22:32Speaker 3: Boys, no, man this was, uh this was. Good this
- 2:22:35Speaker 3: was this was kind of. Therapeutic, Actually Like i'm gonna
- 2:22:37Speaker 3: go home and be a better.
- 2:22:38Speaker 2: Person.
- 2:22:39Speaker 3: NOW i think the THING i loved about it was
- 2:22:45Speaker 3: one we weren't in a time, limit WHICH i think
- 2:22:48Speaker 3: you probably should have kept me on a time limit
- 2:22:50Speaker 3: because this junk is very. Long people are gonna take
- 2:22:52Speaker 3: six days of driving the world to actually finish, this
- 2:22:56Speaker 3: And i'm sorry people for. That next, time If i'm invited,
- 2:22:58Speaker 3: BACK i would be. Quicker BUT i think the huge
- 2:23:02Speaker 3: thing is is people are, layered you, know Like shrek,
- 2:23:06Speaker 3: said you, know he's an, Onion but Then donkey Told
- 2:23:09Speaker 3: shrek be a, parfait because who don't like a?
- 2:23:10Speaker 2: Parfait you? Know great?
- 2:23:12Speaker 3: Reference, yeah and you got, kids, bro and and you
- 2:23:17Speaker 3: allow like you allow those layers to. Unfold and SO
- 2:23:19Speaker 3: i think people get a greater sense of who your
- 2:23:23Speaker 3: guests are than.
- 2:23:24Speaker 2: They, do like me being ON. Tv, right you have
- 2:23:27Speaker 2: a little, segment you have Certain, yeah you have like thirty.
- 2:23:30Speaker 2: Seconds so what y'all? Do man is really?
- 2:23:32Speaker 3: Dope Tell. Tale i'll be back for. Him, yeah you,
- 2:23:35Speaker 3: Know i'll Make you'll have. To, Yeah i'll make sure
- 2:23:38Speaker 3: THOUGH i get at least two or three tweets out
- 2:23:40Speaker 3: about him this, Year so tell.
- 2:23:41Speaker 1: Him, okay all, RIGHT i Will. Man But i'm sure
- 2:23:45Speaker 1: we'll link up, again, Bro but thank. You subscribe To
- 2:23:47Speaker 1: bust with The boys Also Face first. Podcast how many
- 2:23:51Speaker 1: is that something you're gonna be like?
- 2:23:52Speaker 3: Real? Yeah, yeah so we're coming. BACK i GOT i
- 2:23:54Speaker 3: Got James harrison this. WEEK i have Super Agent Jalen
- 2:23:58Speaker 3: ramsey's alien. Agent Actually david mull get.
- 2:24:00Speaker 2: On oh yeah yeah yeah seven because he's somebody who's
- 2:24:03Speaker 2: like out.
- 2:24:03Speaker 3: There, yeah SO i GOT i got Him nate burleson,
- 2:24:06Speaker 3: actually which is a cool moment for. Me man At
- 2:24:09Speaker 3: hall Of. Fame i'm just speaking saying, hello and he was,
- 2:24:12Speaker 3: like when you're gonna have me on your? Podcast AND
- 2:24:15Speaker 3: i was like he seems like such a good. Dude
- 2:24:16Speaker 3: this awesome. Dude short, Story i'm, SORRY i know we.
- 2:24:19Speaker 3: Ended we were on AN nfl network while still playing
- 2:24:22Speaker 3: BEFORE i did MY espn, thing and he was on with,
- 2:24:26Speaker 3: me AND i was, LIKE i was, like good for
- 2:24:28Speaker 3: a football. Player he was at that, time good for
- 2:24:30Speaker 3: somebody that had been doing it for ten. Years AND
- 2:24:33Speaker 3: i remember going home and being, Like i'm never gonna
- 2:24:35Speaker 3: be ON tv if they're gonna compare me to that.
- 2:24:37Speaker 2: Dude he's freaking.
- 2:24:38Speaker 1: Excellent, yeah there's another short stort and then we'll go.
- 2:24:42Speaker 1: Podcast BUT i remember reading a story on him because
- 2:24:44Speaker 1: he attained some award BECAUSE i you, know he was
- 2:24:46Speaker 1: a little before me getting into the. League but, yeah
- 2:24:50Speaker 1: he's somebody who just seems like he's authentically like just.
- 2:24:53Speaker 2: Kind of grew climbed the. Ladder they threw his. Authenticity,
- 2:24:57Speaker 2: bro he's amazing.
- 2:24:58Speaker 1: Dog, yeah but face first part, Podcast Ryan. Clark subscribe
- 2:25:01Speaker 1: rate five, stars bang the comments all day. Long, RYAN
- 2:25:04Speaker 1: i appreciate, you brother bus.
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