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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in again.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Hi, I am all in again with Scott Patterson and
- 0:20Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Podcast.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcast, one of
- 0:24Speaker 1: them productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart podcasts. We are going to
- 0:29Speaker 1: recap season three, episode eighteen, Happy Birthday Baby with the
- 0:34Speaker 1: one and Only. Yes, We've got our Katie Walder. Hi, Katie?
- 0:37Speaker 1: How you doing?
- 0:38Speaker 2: Hi?
- 0:39Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you good?
- 0:40Speaker 1: To have you back again? I remember last time we
- 0:42Speaker 1: had a good time, didn't we.
- 0:43Speaker 3: We did have a good time for having me back.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Happy to be back.
- 0:47Speaker 1: You're good at this, you know you.
- 0:49Speaker 3: I am thank you.
- 0:50Speaker 1: You're a good hang. Right, and we're going to be
- 0:53Speaker 1: hanging up at New Milford, Connecticut, aren't we. What are
- 0:57Speaker 1: the dates for that convention?
- 0:59Speaker 2: I want to say it's early September, Labor Day weekend.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Decembertember fourth through six, right, Yeah?
- 1:05Speaker 3: Are you gonna be there the whole weekend or just
- 1:07Speaker 3: a couple of days?
- 1:09Speaker 1: I think? I don't know. I think maybe just Friday
- 1:12Speaker 1: and Saturday. They're discussing Sunday now for me.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know Matt's going to be there. I
- 1:16Speaker 2: just saw him recently or something else unrelated.
- 1:20Speaker 1: But that convention is fun.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I was supposed to go last year and I ended
- 1:26Speaker 2: up yay booking a job and so I couldn't, which
- 1:31Speaker 2: is so great of course, like you know, that always
- 1:34Speaker 2: happens though, you commit to something and then work comes.
- 1:37Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, yeah, but it's it's it's it's
- 1:40Speaker 1: that that is a good time up there.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 1: They know how to put on it, they know how
- 1:46Speaker 1: to they know how to take over a town and
- 1:48Speaker 1: make it look like stars Hall. It's really cool.
- 1:50Speaker 3: I love that so much. I'm excited.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That's all right. So if you don't know Katie, she's
- 1:57Speaker 1: an actor musical background. She's working on broad Way to
- 2:00Speaker 1: recurring roles in televisions such as How I Met Your Mother,
- 2:03Speaker 1: Mad Met Good Wife, obviously Gilmore Girls. She is also
- 2:07Speaker 1: an integrative health and nutrition coach, and we'll get into
- 2:10Speaker 1: that a little bit later. And she, like we said,
- 2:13Speaker 1: she's gonna be with me up in uh New Milford, Connecticut,
- 2:17Speaker 1: September fourth or sixth Weekend in the Life and amongst
- 2:23Speaker 1: some other Gilmore cast It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 2:27Speaker 1: And you were Rory's roommate at Yale Janet for eight episodes.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I think, you know, it was actually nine, but we
- 2:35Speaker 2: ye Olivia who you know, played Tano. She and I
- 2:38Speaker 2: got cut out of the ninth for some odd reason.
- 2:40Speaker 2: It was the graduation. But no, you know, that's just
- 2:43Speaker 2: you still.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Got paid for it, still got paid there.
- 2:46Speaker 3: You go, really fun. But yeah, they had to you know,
- 2:49Speaker 3: make room.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was all those I was. I
- 2:55Speaker 1: had this huge part in Titanic and they just cut
- 2:58Speaker 1: it all out.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Oh I bet, I mean yeah, I know you were
- 3:01Speaker 2: like DiCaprio's what like dad or uncle something.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Like that, right, right, And you know I in Craft Service,
- 3:09Speaker 1: I ate one of Leo's cookies and I shouldn't have
- 3:11Speaker 1: and then they fired me.
- 3:12Speaker 3: That's it. That's how it goes.
- 3:14Speaker 1: You don't eat Leo's cookies. You just don't do it. Anyway. Actually,
- 3:19Speaker 1: I had a friend. I had a friend back in
- 3:21Speaker 1: the day when I was in New York study who
- 3:26Speaker 1: went off and did like this big film with a
- 3:28Speaker 1: big director. Talked about it. Then we went to the
- 3:31Speaker 1: premiere and you could see his nose in one scene
- 3:35Speaker 1: in Shadow.
- 3:36Speaker 3: No, come on, come.
- 3:38Speaker 2: On, you just never know until the final cut, what's
- 3:44Speaker 2: gonna make it, you know?
- 3:45Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's like my worst nightmare.
- 3:48Speaker 1: And we were all there like, wow, that was impressive.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Get that right?
- 3:53Speaker 1: Now, that's three months three months in Italy for that,
- 3:56Speaker 1: all right.
- 3:57Speaker 3: You know, huh yeah.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And he went in for more and more nose jobs
- 4:04Speaker 1: and he didn't get them exactly.
- 4:06Speaker 3: They were like, your nosework is not strong.
- 4:08Speaker 1: No, no, no, his reel was not that impressed. All right,
- 4:13Speaker 1: So Rory is planning Lauralli's birthday party. Meanwhile, Emily and
- 4:18Speaker 1: Richard get upset when laurel I tries to pay them
- 4:22Speaker 1: back right the money that they spent on Chilton. Oh,
- 4:27Speaker 1: and it gets ugly. Director of Gale Mancuso written by
- 4:31Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino. All right, so we got a Friday
- 4:34Speaker 1: night dinner. We start off the affair here with a
- 4:37Speaker 1: Friday night dinner, and Rory announces to Emily and Richard
- 4:41Speaker 1: She's going to Yale.
- 4:42Speaker 3: That's right, she got into what Harvard? What was that?
- 4:46Speaker 1: Harvard? Princeton?
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yale, Oh, Princeton and yow, that's right, and she chose you, yeah.
- 4:51Speaker 1: And she chose you. And we don't know why we
- 4:55Speaker 1: didn't get We weren't privy to the pro con list
- 4:58Speaker 1: I was really interested to finding out why, but we
- 5:02Speaker 1: never found out why.
- 5:03Speaker 3: My guess is that Yale's in Connecticut. It's close by.
- 5:07Speaker 2: She wants to be close to mom, right and family.
- 5:10Speaker 2: So I think that, you know, that way she can
- 5:13Speaker 2: commute if she needs to come back or whatever. I
- 5:16Speaker 2: think a lot of yeah, people who don't like being
- 5:19Speaker 2: away from their family.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Right, And Jess hasn't completely ruined her life yet, and
- 5:22Speaker 1: she wants to give Jess that chance to completely destroy
- 5:25Speaker 1: her life.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Right exactly, there's that too, that's right.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Has he earned that chance? All? Right? And now at
- 5:32Speaker 1: first they don't react to the announcement of Yale, Richard
- 5:36Speaker 1: and Emily and they just they probably think, what do
- 5:42Speaker 1: they think? Laura is just messing with them, Let's play
- 5:44Speaker 1: a joke on mom and dad.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:46Speaker 3: I wasn't sure about that.
- 5:47Speaker 2: When I watched it. I was like, why are they
- 5:49Speaker 2: holding back? And maybe they felt like, uh, yeah, she's
- 5:53Speaker 2: playing a joke on us.
- 5:54Speaker 3: We wanted it so badly, don't.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Mess with us.
- 5:56Speaker 3: We don't want this too badly that we're not going
- 5:59Speaker 3: to show.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was going to be something like,
- 6:03Speaker 1: you know, the typical Emily had heard it through friends,
- 6:06Speaker 1: and why didn't you tell us first? And why did
- 6:08Speaker 1: I have to hear it through friends? How dare you
- 6:10Speaker 1: and turn it into a big fight. But no, that
- 6:14Speaker 1: wasn't the reason. They were just they just wanted to
- 6:18Speaker 1: make sure it was real before they celebrated.
- 6:20Speaker 3: And then they had a huge reaction.
- 6:22Speaker 1: They had a big reaction, had a big reaction. Very funny. Well, yes,
- 6:26Speaker 1: I do think that the excitement of Rory going to
- 6:29Speaker 1: Yale is definitely clouded by the complex relationship between Laurella
- 6:34Speaker 1: I and her parents. For sure. That's why they didn't
- 6:37Speaker 1: get the man. I tell you when when you when
- 6:41Speaker 1: you give a piece of news like that and you
- 6:43Speaker 1: don't get a reaction, It's like.
- 6:46Speaker 3: That was they were, like, I got in.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It's a lifetime of work going right.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Well, they're so good, especially laurel I's mom is so
- 6:57Speaker 2: good at that poker face. She's so hard to read,
- 6:59Speaker 2: you know sometimes you.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, all right, so they got excited. Paris calls
- 7:04Speaker 1: Rory and she encourages her to do something crazy to
- 7:08Speaker 1: get her mind off things. Rory does because you know,
- 7:11Speaker 1: Paris is going bonkers that she didn't get into Harvard.
- 7:15Speaker 1: End of the world for her she comes back to school.
- 7:17Speaker 1: She seemed watching soap oppers and eaten like marshmallows for
- 7:21Speaker 1: five days.
- 7:22Speaker 3: And I think she said her mom was getting a
- 7:23Speaker 3: new face also.
- 7:25Speaker 2: While she was Okay, I don't know if you remember that,
- 7:28Speaker 2: but I remember that she's like, my mom's away.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I think she's coming back with a new face, right, right, right,
- 7:34Speaker 3: all right.
- 7:34Speaker 2: So Paris gets the nose ring, right, and it blew up,
- 7:38Speaker 2: got infected.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Yes, And she comes back with a bandage, and she's
- 7:42Speaker 1: her usual calm, pleasant self in reaction to people's reaction
- 7:48Speaker 1: to her nose. All right. So Richard asks for a
- 7:52Speaker 1: meeting with Laura I and then and then at that meeting,
- 7:56Speaker 1: he hands her a check for seventy fives big ones,
- 8:02Speaker 1: seventy five grand for larele I off of some you know,
- 8:08Speaker 1: made up story about an investment when she was born.
- 8:11Speaker 3: That's what I thought. I thought that was for sure
- 8:13Speaker 3: made up.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very clever. I'm definitely going very clever. I'm
- 8:19Speaker 1: definitely going to use that at some point. I like that.
- 8:23Speaker 1: That's a good one, yeah, because there's so many people
- 8:26Speaker 1: that just won't take your money. It's so frustrating. Anyway,
- 8:29Speaker 1: this led to the scene at the end of this
- 8:33Speaker 1: episode where Laurel I decides to can that money back
- 8:38Speaker 1: to pay back Emily and Richard for supporting jilt private
- 8:44Speaker 1: school costs, and Emily gets really.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Upset, really upset.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, Katie. Okay, how would you feel
- 8:56Speaker 1: in that.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Situation as either Laura I.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say your Lauraa, you're paying your mother back.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Your mother just launches a full assault on you, you know,
- 9:10Speaker 1: and that was brutal.
- 9:13Speaker 3: That was brutal. I think.
- 9:15Speaker 2: She well, they obviously have such a complicated relationship, you know,
- 9:18Speaker 2: and I think that.
- 9:20Speaker 3: And Laura I talks about that later.
- 9:22Speaker 2: She's like, you don't know what I went through, you know,
- 9:24Speaker 2: growing up, And she doesn't want to be under their
- 9:27Speaker 2: control and have and feel like obligated to go to
- 9:32Speaker 2: their house every Friday. She's like, thank you, it was
- 9:35Speaker 2: the right move that you helped me get my daughter
- 9:37Speaker 2: into Shelton. But like I got this money, thank you
- 9:40Speaker 2: so much, and now you know, I don't owe you anything.
- 9:45Speaker 2: And and Emily Emily, sorry, why am I blanking all
- 9:49Speaker 2: of a sudden her mind, Hey, I don't know why.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I just had like a blank moment because I'm like
- 9:54Speaker 2: Richard Emily and Richard Emily. She sees it as an
- 9:59Speaker 2: in so, like, my daughter doesn't want to spend time
- 10:01Speaker 2: with me, that's why you're that's why you're giving me
- 10:04Speaker 2: this check, Like why can't you just accept the gift?
- 10:07Speaker 2: But she feels more in control of, you know, their
- 10:11Speaker 2: relationship and holding some power over her.
- 10:14Speaker 3: LARDA I doesn't want that.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Right, But no matter how nasty Emily gets, you still
- 10:22Speaker 1: sympathize with her, and you're I'm a little bit on
- 10:25Speaker 1: her side because she's she's not valuing the money. She's
- 10:30Speaker 1: valuing the time with her daughter and her granddaughter. And
- 10:34Speaker 1: that's why she's upset, because that's what she's She's not
- 10:37Speaker 1: worried about losing money. She doesn't care about the money,
- 10:39Speaker 1: of course cares. She cares about being with her her
- 10:43Speaker 1: child and her granddaughter.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yeah. But then Laurel I says, wouldn't you rather we
- 10:47Speaker 2: come on our own volition than like have to feel obligated? Right?
- 10:51Speaker 3: Wouldn't you rather we come because we want to be
- 10:53Speaker 3: with you?
- 10:54Speaker 2: And I think underneath it all is Emily's fear that
- 10:57Speaker 2: you just don't want to be with me.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I'm never going to see you again, my mom's a
- 11:00Speaker 1: narcissist and everything's transactional there it is.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's just scared. At the end of the day,
- 11:08Speaker 2: Emily's just scared.
- 11:10Speaker 3: It's all.
- 11:10Speaker 2: It all comes out of fear, if you want to
- 11:12Speaker 2: get into the psychology of it all. But yeah, and
- 11:15Speaker 2: and Laura I has trauma. She has some trauma from
- 11:19Speaker 2: her childhood.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Everything she said was reasonable.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Everything Laurel I said, or everything Emily said.
- 11:25Speaker 1: I think. I think Laurelized actions were noble, totally and
- 11:30Speaker 1: correct and mature and responsible. And that's not how Emily
- 11:40Speaker 1: plays the narcissist game, right, that's like, no, no, no, no, no,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you can We're not playing your.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Game, right, it has to be my I make the rules.
- 11:49Speaker 1: But mom, it's not a game, right, this is like
- 11:52Speaker 1: real life. And this let's let's do the real life.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Let's let's see where the chips fall here. And that's
- 12:00Speaker 1: so healthy, right, and if we want to come, we'll
- 12:02Speaker 1: show up. Yeah, fire aftermath. And this was some funny
- 12:08Speaker 1: stuff between Tobin and Michelle. Good stuff because Tobin was
- 12:14Speaker 1: really getting under Michelle's skin, Oh my gosh, was he
- 12:18Speaker 1: And that bite on the bagel and that evil eye
- 12:20Speaker 1: to Michelle.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Was, I did not see that coming.
- 12:23Speaker 1: I own you, dude, I own you.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I loved it because he seems so sweet and innocent.
- 12:29Speaker 3: I love that little turn.
- 12:30Speaker 1: I know, and I have. We all had people like
- 12:36Speaker 1: that in our lives where we just don't want to
- 12:38Speaker 1: be in the same room with them. I mean, of.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Course, of course, people who are so manipulative, like to
- 12:45Speaker 2: the point. I mean this guy, like I wanted to
- 12:47Speaker 2: believe he was just like adorable and just kind, generous
- 12:51Speaker 2: little guy. And then you know, Michelle's like, I can
- 12:54Speaker 2: see through you, and then yeah, so yeah, and he
- 12:59Speaker 2: wasn't as kind, and you know, it's I know, people
- 13:02Speaker 2: like that.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And you could see it and Michelle's you know, it
- 13:06Speaker 1: was in his body right away.
- 13:08Speaker 4: He was just he just went stiff.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he just was like I could tell something
- 13:13Speaker 1: was up. It's good acting, right, it's good acting.
- 13:16Speaker 2: And he was he was threatened too though by you know,
- 13:19Speaker 2: he didn't want to take his job. I mean, Laurla,
- 13:20Speaker 2: I was obviously charmed. And then the leather jacket, I mean,
- 13:24Speaker 2: come on, he couldn't be that gift, I know.
- 13:27Speaker 1: So Michelle suggests if they make it a B and
- 13:30Speaker 1: B for the time being. You know, Suki can do
- 13:33Speaker 1: the breakfast foods at home, people can mingle, and that's
- 13:37Speaker 1: what they'd offer, breakfast placed a couple of rooms to sleep.
- 13:39Speaker 1: You know, not all the rooms are ready, but like,
- 13:42Speaker 1: don't shut down, you can really open it back up
- 13:45Speaker 1: a little bit. Laurela I doesn't want to do it
- 13:47Speaker 1: until Tobin likes that idea agrees with Michelle, which is
- 13:51Speaker 1: a sort of a master Ninja move against Michelle totally.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Michelle, don't be on my side.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Don't you dare be on my side? And Laurel I
- 14:02Speaker 1: like now suddenly likes the idea because hilarious. Yeah, so
- 14:06Speaker 1: that was good stuff. Yeah, and the the Joe Strummer
- 14:10Speaker 1: leather jacket from the clash was key. Yeah. Yeah, Tobn
- 14:15Speaker 1: just tops him.
- 14:16Speaker 2: And he never followed up when Michelle was like, I
- 14:18Speaker 2: have to go run an errand because you know, he
- 14:20Speaker 2: was trying to get a better gift, right right, He
- 14:22Speaker 2: never showed that.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Good stuff good stuff. It's like, I don't know, you know,
- 14:29Speaker 1: you don't see Michelle in a lot of scenarios like that.
- 14:32Speaker 1: It was, it was it was refreshing to see that,
- 14:36Speaker 1: you know, because he could he could display more comedy gifts.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Right, Oh, totally is really funny.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll also be at that convention that we're going to, yes,
- 14:48Speaker 2: the guest as well.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Yeah, he will be there, and he's exactly like that character.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Exactly is he?
- 14:59Speaker 2: I don't remember for him having a French accent in
- 15:01Speaker 2: real life?
- 15:11Speaker 1: Nicole Jess Luke, there we are okay.
- 15:17Speaker 3: The parents, Yeah, okay.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Nicole's a little more involved in this episode, and he's
- 15:23Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that that scene with Taylor in the
- 15:28Speaker 1: diner and look, why are you still dating this man?
- 15:32Speaker 1: I have a nephew who just got back from the biodome.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Can I give him your number? Right right in front
- 15:40Speaker 1: of looks. Luke doesn't even get that upset because he
- 15:43Speaker 1: didn't take the guy seriously. Right, right, So Nicole asked
- 15:47Speaker 1: Luke once he sits down that the parents come to town,
- 15:51Speaker 1: do youn't want to meet the parents? And Luke kind
- 15:54Speaker 1: of goes pale. That's right. He's hesitant, but then Jess
- 16:00Speaker 1: kind of needles him into it and shames him into it,
- 16:03Speaker 1: and he agrees to do it.
- 16:05Speaker 2: Katie thoughts, you were not stoked to meet those parents.
- 16:10Speaker 2: You did not, you were not sold. It's funny because
- 16:14Speaker 2: you it was a real mislead, Like I feel like
- 16:18Speaker 2: you like her, you know, like mislead in terms of
- 16:21Speaker 2: like the relationship. You're like kind of leading her on,
- 16:25Speaker 2: you know, making it seem like you're really serious, but
- 16:27Speaker 2: then you're like oh no, no, no, or not what.
- 16:31Speaker 2: You were very uncomfortable and then couldn't get out of
- 16:33Speaker 2: your own head about what was going on with you
- 16:35Speaker 2: and Jess and kind of that's you, that's your experience
- 16:39Speaker 2: with parenting, and you don't want to be you don't
- 16:41Speaker 2: want to have a kid with her. Like the whole
- 16:43Speaker 2: thing was so like I was like, yeah, you don't
- 16:46Speaker 2: want to be in this, you don't want to be
- 16:48Speaker 2: in this situation. You just but you were kind, you know,
- 16:54Speaker 2: and then when you were like, oh, we'll do it
- 16:55Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, she was like, oh, oh
- 16:58Speaker 2: we're still gonna or months maybe months?
- 17:01Speaker 1: Yeah, no, seven months, seven months?
- 17:04Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, your heart wasn't your heart wasn't in it,
- 17:08Speaker 2: and it was really obvious. Yeah you know, I mean,
- 17:12Speaker 2: you and Lauren have so much chemistry on screen it's
- 17:17Speaker 2: actually unbelievable, and like I it's just like, yeah, I
- 17:22Speaker 2: just like when you were talking. You're meeting the parents,
- 17:25Speaker 2: and I could.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Just see that all they're supposed to be together.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. He just yeah,
- 17:36Speaker 1: I guess he just realized that. You know, it's not
- 17:40Speaker 1: that he doesn't like a mess, right, he doesn't like
- 17:44Speaker 1: the chaos of what goes into you, only like you
- 17:49Speaker 1: only dislike the chaos of dating the wrong person. I guess, right,
- 17:54Speaker 1: that's right. You don't want to have to play act
- 17:56Speaker 1: and like, what am I doing here meeting her parents?
- 17:58Speaker 1: I'm a grown man. This is silly. But if you're
- 18:02Speaker 1: in love, it's it's not a big deal.
- 18:06Speaker 2: It's like sure, yeah, and you want the parents to
- 18:09Speaker 2: like you, like you're actually nervous and want to impress them.
- 18:12Speaker 3: It's just when you're into the person.
- 18:14Speaker 1: When you're not, you're like his mind is on, you know,
- 18:18Speaker 1: looking at just making him look bad because he's getting
- 18:21Speaker 1: lied to and just is going to Walmart instead of school,
- 18:24Speaker 1: and how that's going to make him look to Laura
- 18:26Speaker 1: Lie like he's a goofball and then not really husband material,
- 18:30Speaker 1: right maybe subconsciously.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Uh huh, yes, all of the above.
- 18:34Speaker 1: He pops in the Nicole parent meeting.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not a good impression you made on that.
- 18:40Speaker 1: That was not what you want from your daughter's boyfriend.
- 18:48Speaker 1: That's not the reaction you want to see in a
- 18:50Speaker 1: first meeting.
- 18:52Speaker 2: No, definitely not. And she kind of didn't. But she
- 18:56Speaker 2: didn't come down hard on you, Like she was very
- 18:59Speaker 2: like she was harsher about her parents, right, she kind
- 19:04Speaker 2: of blamed them, which was so interesting because I don't
- 19:07Speaker 2: know in this day and age if that would fly,
- 19:09Speaker 2: I feel like the guy would be called out a
- 19:12Speaker 2: bit more like why did you act that way?
- 19:15Speaker 3: Do you not want to be with me? Like she
- 19:17Speaker 3: was not confrontational at all.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Her thing was just like, oh, thank you for surviving
- 19:21Speaker 2: that with my parents, you know, put all the blame
- 19:24Speaker 2: on them, and you know the mom was just offering
- 19:27Speaker 2: cheese and well, no, that's not true. She she also
- 19:30Speaker 2: asked about kids, which definitely put you on the spot.
- 19:33Speaker 3: That was a lot.
- 19:34Speaker 1: But yeah, he can't handle much.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Tolerance your capacity. You're like, You're tolerance meter is not
- 19:44Speaker 2: super high.
- 19:45Speaker 1: He's out of that town, he's out of the diner.
- 19:48Speaker 1: He's so out of his element.
- 19:52Speaker 3: Your hat was off, you were like it was off.
- 19:55Speaker 3: You know, this was not comfortable for you.
- 19:58Speaker 1: No, it was not it kind of work, all right.
- 20:02Speaker 1: So you know, Jess is off to school and Luke
- 20:08Speaker 1: follows him outside, and it was also right in front
- 20:13Speaker 1: of everything and everybody. He was being a little obvious
- 20:15Speaker 1: about it. I would have I would have actually gone
- 20:19Speaker 1: inside the school and then come out, but that really
- 20:24Speaker 1: looked like we need to do this quickly, and he
- 20:27Speaker 1: just he just sort of like took a left hand
- 20:30Speaker 1: hand turn, ran to his car and took off. Very obvious,
- 20:33Speaker 1: very easy to catch. So now we see what's going on.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Just yes, and he's so smart, right, He's a smart kid.
- 20:40Speaker 3: So smart.
- 20:41Speaker 1: So he confronts him a little bit later, right.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the question, you obviously moved to the car,
- 20:48Speaker 2: I mean that was obviously you. They never also like
- 20:50Speaker 2: no one ever confirmed that, right, But I was like, oh,
- 20:54Speaker 2: oh you did that, so he would definitely go to school.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean who else is going to do?
- 21:00Speaker 3: You were? You were the father figure.
- 21:01Speaker 1: I mean, so now we know something about Luke we
- 21:04Speaker 1: didn't know before. He knows how to hot wire a car.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Maybe just took the keys and moved a wire.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Or there is just a second set that you found,
- 21:11Speaker 2: or he was sleeping and you took his set a
- 21:14Speaker 2: lot of possibilities, But.
- 21:17Speaker 3: I like the hot wire idea. That's pretty funny.
- 21:20Speaker 1: How else do you think Luke could have handled that situation?
- 21:25Speaker 1: You have any ideas?
- 21:27Speaker 2: I mean, I thought you handled it pretty well. You
- 21:29Speaker 2: weren't too hard.
- 21:30Speaker 3: On him, in my opinion. How else could you have
- 21:34Speaker 3: handled it?
- 21:35Speaker 2: Maybe you could have just told him how much potential
- 21:39Speaker 2: he has and how he could do so much with
- 21:42Speaker 2: his life. You're so intelligent, like you don't need to
- 21:45Speaker 2: Like you're going to be fine. You don't need to
- 21:47Speaker 2: take this second job during the day. Going to school
- 21:50Speaker 2: is actually going to prepare you for the future, like
- 21:53Speaker 2: you could really you know, like finish.
- 21:56Speaker 3: The doubt right right, Not that nothing.
- 21:59Speaker 2: You have to go to school to make something of
- 22:01Speaker 2: your future, right, but when you're in high school, write
- 22:05Speaker 2: it out, finish and then figure out what you want
- 22:07Speaker 2: to do.
- 22:08Speaker 1: So has just stated why he's earning money to get
- 22:13Speaker 1: a better car. He's earning he wants He's so his
- 22:17Speaker 1: life drive is to earn money to get out of
- 22:20Speaker 1: that town.
- 22:21Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, I think I mean, I don't know,
- 22:24Speaker 2: I but he wants to be with Rory.
- 22:29Speaker 1: He's trying to make something of himself.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Of course, And it's admirable.
- 22:33Speaker 1: He's putting some effort in.
- 22:35Speaker 3: It's admirable, But you have to pick. Like I get
- 22:38Speaker 3: that he wanted to make money, but going to school
- 22:40Speaker 3: is also really important, you know.
- 22:41Speaker 1: So he's working at the diner, he's working at Walmart,
- 22:44Speaker 1: he's skipping school.
- 22:46Speaker 3: And I like that, you offer more money. I thought
- 22:48Speaker 3: that was so generous. That's great. You're like, I'll give
- 22:51Speaker 3: you other things to do. Like that was great.
- 22:54Speaker 1: That really hurt. It hurt me in my lukewallet. When
- 22:57Speaker 1: when I heard those lines, I was like, WHOA, that's insurance, WHOA,
- 23:00Speaker 1: that's that's gonna hurt. I know, but he's that guy.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Love makes you do those things. You love him?
- 23:07Speaker 1: They sure do, don't I know it? All right? Laurela's birthday,
- 23:15Speaker 1: Ah yeah, all right.
- 23:17Speaker 3: There's a lot of candles on that cake, a lot
- 23:19Speaker 3: of candles. That was hysterical.
- 23:23Speaker 1: So Luke gets the list, the handyman list. Laurela handsome,
- 23:27Speaker 1: she's she's just has. She's got the malamars all set
- 23:31Speaker 1: out on the table. She eats one. She goes to
- 23:34Speaker 1: the cabinet, she gets out the box of alamar. She
- 23:36Speaker 1: replaces that Luke questions this. I have had this conversation.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Everybody's had this conversation. You know, I have. I have
- 23:46Speaker 1: this conversation with my wife. You just did this, and
- 23:49Speaker 1: you went over there and you did that. Why'd you
- 23:50Speaker 1: do with that? You know, this kind of thing that's
- 23:52Speaker 1: exactly the kind of a conversation that people have with
- 23:56Speaker 1: each other if they've lived with each other long enough
- 24:00Speaker 1: where people are comfortable to be there kind of like
- 24:03Speaker 1: real crazy selves and they don't hide it anymore. It's
- 24:07Speaker 1: just so it just shows they're very comfortable with one another.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Yes, it's just.
- 24:13Speaker 1: A breezy conversation for her. For him, it's like, this
- 24:18Speaker 1: does not fit in my world. You have to make
- 24:21Speaker 1: this doesn't make any logical sense. Why are you doing this?
- 24:25Speaker 1: So very cute. I really enjoyed that scene.
- 24:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. It was just a spoon you're like.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Next and then he tells, you know, he confides in
- 24:38Speaker 1: Laurel I, his friend Laurel I about Jess and you
- 24:44Speaker 1: will write all along. So everything about this scene is
- 24:48Speaker 1: sort of bringing them closer. It's almost like you get
- 24:52Speaker 1: to see them as a couple. Yeah, almost, Like especially
- 24:57Speaker 1: with the Malamar scene, that's like, that's what. That's what
- 25:00Speaker 1: couples that have been together forever they have those the banter.
- 25:04Speaker 1: The banter, right, it's like that's how they fight. That's
- 25:08Speaker 1: not a fight, it's just it's just.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Right.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Rory's planning a big party for her mom and and
- 25:22Speaker 1: she's putting together the world's largest pizza with one of
- 25:27Speaker 1: my favorite character actors is John Pallito played the pizza guy,
- 25:35Speaker 1: and just a great turn for him and really fun that.
- 25:40Speaker 1: That's a really fun piece of casting when you can
- 25:42Speaker 1: get somebody of that caliber to come into do a
- 25:46Speaker 1: little role like that and have fun with it. And
- 25:48Speaker 1: so Rory's trying to make this massive pizza. There's an accident.
- 25:52Speaker 1: She's trying to get that pizza on top of her
- 25:55Speaker 1: car or kirkiez Trumpa's car to deliver it, and uh,
- 26:00Speaker 1: there is a cheese a hot cheese accident. Yeah, and
- 26:04Speaker 1: Kirk is injured on his lower legs and his arms
- 26:09Speaker 1: and and so John Polito has to make a call
- 26:12Speaker 1: to Rory and say, I don't think we can do this.
- 26:14Speaker 1: We can't use the cheese, we can't use the tomato sauce.
- 26:18Speaker 1: It's just gonna have to be the crust and hysterical scene.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Really really, she's like, that's just bread, like bread.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Yeah. When they were lowering it down on the with
- 26:32Speaker 1: the crane at the end, YEA, My concern was that
- 26:37Speaker 1: thing is going to cool. This thing can't be piping hot.
- 26:40Speaker 1: How are they going to serve this thing? It's like
- 26:42Speaker 1: it's cold already.
- 26:44Speaker 3: I love that. That was your concern.
- 26:45Speaker 1: That was my concern. It was a stiff, hard pizza, yeah,
- 26:49Speaker 1: because otherwise it would have the way they had it, it
- 26:51Speaker 1: would have folded anyway.
- 26:53Speaker 2: God, how many slices would you even? Like, how do
- 26:55Speaker 2: you cut? You have to like do what like a
- 26:59Speaker 2: circle like a viral and then cut into like little squares.
- 27:02Speaker 3: That was that was massive?
- 27:04Speaker 1: How do you do that?
- 27:05Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know.
- 27:06Speaker 2: My thought also was that when Sukie's you know, was
- 27:13Speaker 2: it I don't know that it was her husband yet
- 27:14Speaker 2: in this season? Was it was it the husband or.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Was it the boys?
- 27:18Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 27:19Speaker 3: They were already married. I can't remember.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I'm sorry, well, yeah, she's.
- 27:24Speaker 2: When he was like, oh, why didn't you ask Suki
- 27:27Speaker 2: to do it? I thought there was going to be
- 27:30Speaker 2: a turn where she ended up doing it because they
- 27:32Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out, but they didn't do that.
- 27:35Speaker 3: John Palito ended up doing.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Go to the pizza guy. She's not a pizza person.
- 27:40Speaker 3: I know, she's gormet chef.
- 27:42Speaker 1: She's busy, well, she's.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Not busy now she's pregnant, right, Okay.
- 27:46Speaker 1: She's pregnant, but she's not busy now because yeah, you know, yeah,
- 27:51Speaker 1: that was a funny scene.
- 27:52Speaker 3: That was funny. Sorry, but yeah, I loved seeing that pizza.
- 27:56Speaker 1: That was yeah, that's good, good, amazing. All right, So
- 28:09Speaker 1: I would eat a hundred foot pizza. I would I'd
- 28:13Speaker 1: eat a very.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Small I was going to say, wow, you'd eat that.
- 28:16Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't try to tackle that.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Now you know. I was born in Philadelphia, so we
- 28:21Speaker 1: used to go to Amie too.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Did we talk about us? No, I was born in Philly.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Come on, no, I was were in Philadelphia Memorial Hospital.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Get it out of town.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Really grew up in right outside of Philly. That's crazy.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Where where'd you grow?
- 28:35Speaker 3: Huntington Valley? So like lower Moreland?
- 28:39Speaker 1: What high school together?
- 28:40Speaker 3: Lower Moreland?
- 28:42Speaker 1: Lower Moreland?
- 28:43Speaker 3: Where did you you were lower Marion? Where were you?
- 28:46Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, I I was born there. We spent
- 28:48Speaker 1: about a year there, and then we moved to South Jersey.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Oh where so I was hadden Field. I was right
- 28:55Speaker 1: over the bridge. Yeah yeah, like you go over you
- 28:57Speaker 1: go over the Ben Franklin. There's Camden and then there's
- 29:00Speaker 1: cherry Well and then there's Haddenfield. So I was in Haddonfield.
- 29:03Speaker 2: That's amazing. My half brother and sister from my father's
- 29:07Speaker 2: first marriage lived in cherry Hill with them.
- 29:09Speaker 5: Oh really yeah, very familiar.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Yeah, man, spent a ton of time in Philly. In fact,
- 29:17Speaker 1: when the Flyers were winning all those Stanley Cups in
- 29:19Speaker 1: the seventies, we used to cut school and just go
- 29:22Speaker 1: to the parades. Oh fun, thirteen year old kids drinking.
- 29:25Speaker 3: It wasn't no, I'm just kidding.
- 29:27Speaker 1: Sorry, No, you were not. You were not. But anyway, yeah,
- 29:34Speaker 1: all right, so you're a Philly girl. All right, Okay,
- 29:36Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I get it now,
- 29:37Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah yeah, yeah, I was.
- 29:39Speaker 3: One that's talking East Coast girl.
- 29:41Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Where are we now?
- 29:47Speaker 1: We're Oh so Laurel I sees the pizza. She loves
- 29:52Speaker 1: the whole idea of it. She's very touched. Yeah, we've
- 29:57Speaker 1: discussed Emily and her reaction to Laura I paying her back. Yeah, No,
- 30:03Speaker 1: I don't think Emily should feel betrayed at all. She
- 30:07Speaker 1: is always misinterpreting people, especially lauralized intentions, always just because
- 30:13Speaker 1: she's she's always projecting her own stuff onto her and
- 30:18Speaker 1: it's it's just so obvious.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Yeah, and can you imagine if she it would have
- 30:25Speaker 2: been way worse if she If Laura I felt so
- 30:28Speaker 2: entitled that she's like, I'm never going to pay you back, like,
- 30:30Speaker 2: you know, it's like, can you win with Emily?
- 30:34Speaker 3: You know?
- 30:34Speaker 2: That's the thing is like, because then it could have
- 30:36Speaker 2: come back later. It's like, well, you said you were
- 30:37Speaker 2: going to pay and you never paid, you know. So
- 30:39Speaker 2: it's like so with people like that, it is very
- 30:41Speaker 2: hard to win.
- 30:43Speaker 1: You can't. You can't can't. They can't read you. They
- 30:46Speaker 1: don't understand, you know, pure intentions. They always think that
- 30:52Speaker 1: there's an angle because they're always playing an angle.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Because all they know is how they think, right.
- 30:58Speaker 1: They don't get it right. This is yeah, they're.
- 31:02Speaker 5: Projecting what they would do or I tell you what,
- 31:06Speaker 5: there's there's really nothing more interesting in what we do
- 31:12Speaker 5: for a living than watching crazy people.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Oh yeah in a scene, I mean the crazier they are,
- 31:19Speaker 1: the better it is.
- 31:20Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, layered, layered char It really is. The
- 31:24Speaker 3: only other thing.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Is that they didn't let her blow out her candles,
- 31:27Speaker 2: and that was upsetting because where's she going to make
- 31:29Speaker 2: a wish?
- 31:30Speaker 1: Yeah? Another dig? Right? Did she get away.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Before she even got to blow out all thirty six candles?
- 31:37Speaker 1: I don't know how many adults want to blow out
- 31:39Speaker 1: their candles, Laurel. But we could bring it back and
- 31:42Speaker 1: we could relight all that. You know, it's like.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Right, like what like, let me make a wish? What's
- 31:48Speaker 3: going on?
- 31:49Speaker 1: Like? Who's talking to anybody like that? Like where I'm from,
- 31:52Speaker 1: where you're from? What's happening to her?
- 31:55Speaker 2: You?
- 31:55Speaker 3: You talk to me like that? It slapped across the base.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Don't get me into my Philly accent. I can do it,
- 32:02Speaker 2: but I did New York for some reason just now.
- 32:05Speaker 2: But I could do Philly and it's like the worst
- 32:07Speaker 2: accent ever.
- 32:08Speaker 1: But you're down to South Street, You're gonna get down.
- 32:11Speaker 2: We're gonna go down, We're gonna beat them up, We're
- 32:13Speaker 2: gonna go get cheese steak, and then we're gonna go
- 32:15Speaker 2: lease Hogy House.
- 32:16Speaker 1: You want you want to go down Street and got hogy.
- 32:19Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll go South Street.
- 32:20Speaker 2: We'll get hoogy and then I'll get some like yeah, yeah,
- 32:24Speaker 2: I used to get on South Street.
- 32:25Speaker 1: How many can you eat? You know, you know past
- 32:30Speaker 1: steak and there's other there's other those other cheese steak places. Yeah,
- 32:36Speaker 1: they had a contest if you could you know how
- 32:39Speaker 1: many you could eat?
- 32:40Speaker 3: You can eat the moose? Who can eat the moose?
- 32:42Speaker 1: Right right?
- 32:44Speaker 2: That?
- 32:44Speaker 1: You want some water? Water?
- 32:46Speaker 3: How use guys doing? How you guys doing?
- 32:48Speaker 2: How guy?
- 32:49Speaker 1: Yeah? Use guys.
- 32:55Speaker 2: If anyone for Philly is listening, you'll get it. Everyone else,
- 32:59Speaker 2: maybe you'll get it if you watch It's always sunny
- 33:01Speaker 2: in films.
- 33:02Speaker 1: But you know, I think I need some water.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I totally need water.
- 33:06Speaker 1: You need water water? Tell me about your integrative health?
- 33:10Speaker 1: What's going on with you? What are you doing? Then?
- 33:12Speaker 2: I'm still acting? Yes, But you know, the industry is
- 33:15Speaker 2: kind of bananas right now. And I have a single
- 33:18Speaker 2: mom to a seven and a half year old girl,
- 33:21Speaker 2: and I wanted to pursue my other passion, which is
- 33:27Speaker 2: really getting people healthy, and so I went to school.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Last year.
- 33:31Speaker 2: I got my degree in integrative health and Nutrition, which
- 33:37Speaker 2: essentially is looking at a person's health from a holistic approach.
- 33:41Speaker 2: So your lifestyle, your stress, your relationships, what you eat,
- 33:46Speaker 2: do you exercise, you know, just looking at everything, what's working,
- 33:50Speaker 2: what's not. Let's figure out a plan to get you
- 33:53Speaker 2: the healthiest you can be, because it's never just food, right,
- 33:56Speaker 2: and yes, I'm very knowledgeable about food, but also eat
- 34:00Speaker 2: some eating issues come, you know with these things, whether
- 34:02Speaker 2: you know, and so it's it's dealing with people with
- 34:04Speaker 2: eating disorders ADHD, whatever whatever it is, well compulsive overeating,
- 34:10Speaker 2: sugar addiction, all that stuff. So I help people kind
- 34:17Speaker 2: of regain their power and find balance in their life
- 34:19Speaker 2: so that they can get healthier.
- 34:22Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Good for you. Do you have a website.
- 34:26Speaker 2: I don't have a website yet. I graduated in October.
- 34:30Speaker 2: I have a Instagram right now that I just started
- 34:37Speaker 2: like a month ago. It's you know, I have my
- 34:39Speaker 2: main Instagram, which is I am Katie Walder. But then
- 34:43Speaker 2: my health coaching pages your Health Bestie kW so at
- 34:48Speaker 2: your Health Best DKW, and I have a lot I'm
- 34:50Speaker 2: going to start putting out more content.
- 34:53Speaker 3: I already have a bunch on there. But yeah, you
- 34:56Speaker 3: can DM me.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Anyone can DM me if you're interested in one on
- 34:59Speaker 2: one coach and I'm gonna be putting out a lot
- 35:02Speaker 2: of things and maybe programs for people who are interested
- 35:07Speaker 2: and great, yeah.
- 35:09Speaker 1: All right, check it, check it out. Katie Walter, You're
- 35:12Speaker 1: the best.
- 35:13Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks for having me. This is so fun.
- 35:15Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you in September.
- 35:17Speaker 1: In September, right, We're.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Gonna have fun. And Olivia Hack is going also, No.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Way, no way, that's right, Olivia Hack.
- 35:26Speaker 3: I suggested her.
- 35:26Speaker 2: When they asked me to come, I was like, why
- 35:28Speaker 2: don't you also bring Olivia hat And they were like,
- 35:31Speaker 2: oh my gosh, because Olivia is like all two.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I think I just spoke to her. Do you think
- 35:35Speaker 1: we just had her?
- 35:36Speaker 3: I was supposed to see her. Yeah, yeah, she was great, hilarious.
- 35:39Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks Katie, and that was a lot
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