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Furness Show 2-26: USA Hockey Aftermath, Jerry Brewer, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: There's a lot going on with week and stuff that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Schneider said, and McDonald said, we had Greg
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  Speaker 1: on yesterday. We want to get listen. We know we're
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  Speaker 1: all starved for NFL news. It's twenty four to seven
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  Speaker 1: that cycle and three sixty five. So we'll get Corbett on,
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  Speaker 1: get his thoughts on Ken Walker and Riek Wooland and
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  Speaker 1: Josh job Job, jail action, Kobe Bryant and all the rest,
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  Speaker 1: boy and Mafe and what they're going to do in
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  Speaker 1: the off season as well. So that's coming up at
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  Speaker 1: two o'clock today. Jerry Brewer is going to join me
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  Speaker 1: at two pm one. I'm sorry, Jerry Brewer at Won
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  Speaker 1: twenty today will join us. And I sat on this
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  Speaker 1: for the last and Andrews knows this because when Jess
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  Speaker 1: was feeling a little under the weather on Monday and Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Andrews and I kind of talked a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on and off here, just mostly off the year
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  Speaker 1: about this. I've kind of sat on this for a
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  Speaker 1: few days and I couldn't sit on it any longer,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and I know that in
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  Speaker 1: our business, this is the fun and games department and
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  Speaker 1: raw raw. Here we go. That's what we'd like to do.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to get out of those that comfort zone.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna do that a little bit today,
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  Speaker 1: and I want you to bear with me. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: play some sound from Hillary Knight and from Jack Hughes.
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  Speaker 1: In just a second. Jerry's gonna join me at one
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  Speaker 1: twenty because I wanted Jerry to come on. He wrote
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  Speaker 1: an incredible column for The Athletic. He's now there. Washington
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  Speaker 1: Post got rid of their sports department. Luckily Jerry the
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  Speaker 1: Athletic smart enough to get Jerry on board before that happened.
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  Speaker 1: The premise of Jerry's column was, quote they lost the
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  Speaker 1: room talking about the US men's hockey team. They lost
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  Speaker 1: the room. And before I play the sound, let me
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  Speaker 1: just kind of set this up. And I'm hoping we
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  Speaker 1: can have a good discussion today on the text line
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  Speaker 1: four nine four or five one the Tacoma Dodge Tech line.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping we can also get some good talkbacks red microphone,
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  Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app ninety three point three kr FM. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: we can have a good discussion. Jerry said they lost
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  Speaker 1: the room. Some felt some felt it was quote political
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  Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, it probably was. Because
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  Speaker 1: everything when you get right down to it, when you're
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  Speaker 1: having a conversation and debate an argument, when you're going
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  Speaker 1: when you have two sides, everything is probably political because
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  Speaker 1: the definition of political is really I mean, it's simple.
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  Speaker 1: It's governance, creating power, influence. That's what politics are. Politics
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  Speaker 1: are about that those things, and it trickles into I
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  Speaker 1: know people say, and you'll hear Jack Hughes, I think
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  Speaker 1: hears say in a second, but oh, we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to make things political. Unfortunately, almost everything in life is political.
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  Speaker 1: It's about power, it's about influence, whether it's in government
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  Speaker 1: or elsewhere. That's just the way it is. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to give you my thoughts and I'm I'm hoping,
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that you'll listen, and if you disagree on
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic that's what we're here for. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: some felt the team the US was supporting the most
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  Speaker 1: divisive president and that's without argument. Sorry he is. He's
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  Speaker 1: the most divisive president in modern times. And it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter what side of the aisle you're on, because we
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  Speaker 1: could talk about the Republican presidents of the past Reagan, Bush,
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  Speaker 1: one Bush, two Democrats. Doesn't matter whether it be in
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  Speaker 1: recent memory, whether it be Clinton or Obama. This is
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  Speaker 1: a different type of president. He's divisive. That's just who
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  Speaker 1: he is. And you may love that, you may hate that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's for you to decide. But he is just divisive.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care about that part of
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  Speaker 1: it supporting the left or the right, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about that. But understand the optics. If you're the USA
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  Speaker 1: hockey team, when you choose a side, there will be
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  Speaker 1: some who love you, some who will hate you and
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  Speaker 1: feel the opposite, and some who will be angry. Everything's political.
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  Speaker 1: But know this. For me, the issue I've had since
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  Speaker 1: Sunday or Monday morning, when I first saw the phone call.
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  Speaker 1: The issue I've had is this, two incredible accomplishments for
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  Speaker 1: a sport that I love, for my country or in
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  Speaker 1: two very different ways, diminished and in some ways sullied,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit taken away from because of the disrespect
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  Speaker 1: and really just kind of the absolute missadag. I can't
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  Speaker 1: say the word. I hate that word misogyny.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you comments, I'm familiar with it.
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  Speaker 1: I know you are just disrespecting the accomplishments of the
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  Speaker 1: women's team and women in general, and I kind of
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  Speaker 1: look at it from a different way because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us dudes are absolute idiots and knuckle draggers. That's
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  Speaker 1: just what we are. That's that's part of who and
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  Speaker 1: what we live by. It's just it's I wish we
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  Speaker 1: were better as men. Sometimes I work on a daily
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  Speaker 1: basis with two incredible women. One of them is Jess
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  Speaker 1: one of them is Alison Lucan, who have great respect
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  Speaker 1: for and you know, I often ask myself because I
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  Speaker 1: have people say, oh, you know a woman doing this
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  Speaker 1: job or a woman doing that job, and I've I've
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  Speaker 1: always said, like, I don't. Allison's is groundbreaking and what
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  Speaker 1: she does. You know, a female analyst on an NHL broadcast,
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  Speaker 1: Uh that that didn't play the game necessarily. But she's
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  Speaker 1: groundbreaking and what she's done is remarkable. And if you
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  Speaker 1: listen to her and watch what she does, I'll put
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  Speaker 1: her up against any analyst in the in the in
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  Speaker 1: the world. She's great. But I don't think of Alison
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  Speaker 1: as that. I understand and recognize who and what she
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  Speaker 1: has done, but I don't look at at her that way.
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  Speaker 1: I look at her as someone that does an incredible job.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, she has to be a woman.
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  Speaker 1: And I would put Jess in the same category as
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  Speaker 1: a as a producer, as an assistant program director, as
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  Speaker 1: someone who kind of runs the show for this show
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  Speaker 1: and also for others. And I've had great producers. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: was an unbelievable producer. You know, we make fun of
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  Speaker 1: the red baron all the time. He was a great producer.
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  Speaker 1: I had a couple of guys I've worked with in
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  Speaker 1: the past and other markets, Eric Ray guys. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I lump them all together. Here are my great producers
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  Speaker 1: I've had over the years. Jess is at the top
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  Speaker 1: of the list. She happens to be a woman.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Ian.
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  Speaker 1: But what what took away from me was how poorly
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  Speaker 1: it was handled that day and then how poorly it's
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  Speaker 1: been handled since then. Because two words can come out
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  Speaker 1: that would change everything, and that's I'm sorry, we were wrong.
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  Speaker 1: That was not right how we handled that. Because I
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  Speaker 1: I can understand the context of what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: You're partying, you're going crazy, blah blah blah. You're always
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  Speaker 1: going to take a phone call from the president. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter who that president is, and nor should it
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  Speaker 1: matter who that president is, you're going to take that
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  Speaker 1: phone call in what should be one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: moments in our country's sports history. We have that that
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  Speaker 1: we're always going to have to have in the background.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out for me what it means
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  Speaker 1: for the US men's hockey team and their accomplishment. They
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  Speaker 1: still have a gold medal. Do I think anything different
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  Speaker 1: of them? I'm not really sure yet, but I know
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  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I'm always going to
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  Speaker 1: have that thought of God, I wish that was handled better.
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  Speaker 1: I wish that didn't happen. I wish they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: what really come across as massive disrespect for the women's team,
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  Speaker 1: because what that women's team accomplished, not just winning the
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  Speaker 1: gold medal, but how they did it in such a
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  Speaker 1: dominating fashion two goals, giving up the entire tournament unreal.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm running out of time, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: spend just a couple of minutes here. Let me start
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  Speaker 1: first with Jack Hughes. If I can, This is Jack
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  Speaker 1: Hughes pregame. Is this right on the ice last night?
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  Speaker 2: YEP for the devils, for.
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  Speaker 1: The Devils teach. Yeah, he brought Tea Thompson was remember
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  Speaker 1: that team out there on the ice as well. Jake
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  Speaker 1: Jack Hughes scored the game winning goal last night. Here
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  Speaker 1: he is. What's up, guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so proud and I'm so happy that the men's
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  Speaker 3: and women's USA hockey teams brought gold medals back to
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  Speaker 3: the United States of America. You guys are making me emotional,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm so proud to represent the New Jersey Devils
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  Speaker 3: organization and I'm so so proud to represent the great
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  Speaker 3: state in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: So proud.
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  Speaker 3: It from the bottom of my heart are all my teammates, teammates,
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  Speaker 3: We just want to thank you guys for all the
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  Speaker 3: love on the support.
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  Speaker 5: We feel it.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: It was Jack Hues last night, emotional, great speech. He
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  Speaker 1: recognized the women right off the top, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: he did that. I thought that was that was really
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  Speaker 1: well done by him. And again, I just don't what
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  Speaker 1: happened on that phone call and laughing and diminishing the
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  Speaker 1: women's accomplishments. I thought was it was just unacceptable. I
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  Speaker 1: also understand the context of where and how it happened.
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  Speaker 1: You could make it right later on, and it really
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  Speaker 1: has not been made right yet. There's been a couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys that have have come out today even and said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wish you wouldn't have said that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: wish we wouldn't have laughed. But really that was the
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  Speaker 1: part that kind of bums me out again. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think for me as a huge hockey fan, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it takes away from what they accomplish on the ice.
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  Speaker 1: But it's always going to be a part of what
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  Speaker 1: they accomplished on the ice. That makes sense. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can get away from it. I think you
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  Speaker 1: can separate the two. Maybe years and years down the
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  Speaker 1: road you can, but I don't think you can separate
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  Speaker 1: it right now. That's just one man's opinion. That's one man.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's my feelings on that. Let's do this. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take a break. We'll play the Hillary Night Press. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a little cut about a minute thirty seven seconds
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  Speaker 1: of Hillary Night sale Torrent captain, But more importantly, I'll
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  Speaker 1: respect the Torrent captain America. She is the captain of
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  Speaker 1: the women's team, the best player of this country's ever seen,
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  Speaker 1: and she spoke yesterday about it, and we'll play that
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  Speaker 1: for Jerry Brewer and then get Jerry's thoughts. He'll join
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  Speaker 1: us coming up next nine three point three.
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  Speaker 7: KTERFM from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
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  Speaker 7: Now back to Ian Furness powered my Seattle close to the
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  Speaker 1: R f M and I walk back in Froness with
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  Speaker 1: you here on a Thursday afternoon, four nine, four to
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  Speaker 1: five one to come a Dodge text line. I know
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  Speaker 1: a lot of texts coming in. I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: your voices as well. We're reflecting back on not just
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  Speaker 1: basically on the situation on Sunday and the celebration, the aftermath,
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  Speaker 1: the aftershocks, the US gold medal winning hockey team and
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  Speaker 1: the call, the laughter and the fallout from them. And
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  Speaker 1: you heard my thoughts on the first segment Jerry Brewers
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  Speaker 1: on whole We'll get to Jerry just a couple of seconds.
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  Speaker 1: The comment they lost the room. Could not agree more
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  Speaker 1: with Greg. With Jerry, it was absolutely awesome as well.
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  Speaker 1: My issue with it is just the just diminishing in
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  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, not just the accomplishments of
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  Speaker 1: the women, but women in general, and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was just it was wrong, and it could have been
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  Speaker 1: it could have been fixed fairly quickly, and it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest issue I've got with it.
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  Speaker 1: But Hillary Night yesterday, Captain America US women's national team,
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  Speaker 1: captain captain of the Seattle Torrent, playing in her final
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  Speaker 1: Olympics the Torrent held a press conference yesterday and she
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  Speaker 1: spoke on the incident.
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  Speaker 5: I just thought the joke was distasteful and unfortunate.
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  Speaker 4: Stay to the union speech.
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  Speaker 8: On Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 4: I could send the military.
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  Speaker 6: Plan or something if you would like to.
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  Speaker 8: It's the coolest night we have to I must tell.
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  Speaker 4: You we're gonna have to bring the woman's safety.
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  Speaker 5: The way women are represented, it's a great teaching point
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  Speaker 5: to really shine light on how women should be championed
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  Speaker 5: for their amazing feats. And now I have to sort
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  Speaker 5: of sit in anybody else to sit in front of
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  Speaker 5: you and explain someone else's behavior. It's not my responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: So but what is is shifting the focus and shifting
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  Speaker 5: the narrative of this amazing accomplishment that we all did
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  Speaker 5: together and granted the men's and the women's team did
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  Speaker 5: it together, and that is super special. It's never been
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  Speaker 5: done in our program's history. It's something we're extremely proud about.
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  Speaker 5: But these women are amazing, and whatever is going on
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't never outshine or minimize their work and our success
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  Speaker 5: on the world stage. This was the best American women's
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  Speaker 5: hockey team, the best American team we've ever put together
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  Speaker 5: on a world stage when the lightest, when the lights
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  Speaker 5: have been the brightest ever. And so I think everybody
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  Speaker 5: felt that, you know, going through the tournament, and I
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  Speaker 5: want to celebrate. I want people to be remembered for that.
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  Speaker 5: I want the legacy of this team to be remembered.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's what I'm trying to, you know, shift
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  Speaker 5: the narrative on and really focus in championing what we've
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  Speaker 5: done and what we've accomplished the last two and a
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  Speaker 5: half weeks together.
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  Speaker 1: That's what leadership sounds like. By the way, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what that's what leadership sounds like. Joining us at the
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  Speaker 1: Beacon Plumbing hotline from the Athletic kind of wild to
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  Speaker 1: say that after all those years of the Washington Post,
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  Speaker 1: but one of the great sports writers in our country
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  Speaker 1: and we're lucky enough to have them here in our backyard.
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  Speaker 1: Longtime Sale Times writer, former host here, Hey KJR. And
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  Speaker 1: it's been two damn long since I've said hello and
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  Speaker 1: caught up with this guy, Jerry Brewers with us. Hi, Jerry,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm great, Ian.
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  Speaker 6: I'm in a bunker somewhere and you might be in
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  Speaker 6: a bunker somewhere as well.
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  Speaker 4: If you say too much stuff on this hot button issue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't looked at the text line yet. Jerry.
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  Speaker 1: You worked here. You know what the text line can
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  Speaker 1: look like at times. I haven't ventured down that road
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  Speaker 1: yet after my first segment of the show today, but
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  Speaker 1: I will do it. Listen. I think there's some things
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  Speaker 1: that you know, some things you just got to you
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  Speaker 1: gotta jump out there in sports radio. I know some
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  Speaker 1: people say it's not the perform for it. Unfortunately it's
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  Speaker 1: because of a sporting event. And that's why we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about to you. I'm gonna read it one one paragraph
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  Speaker 1: from what Jerry said, and I'll set it up for you.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry and I thought this said it well. The burden
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  Speaker 1: of representing the Stars and Stripes isn't just to win.
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  Speaker 1: It is to amplify the best of us to show
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  Speaker 1: what unites us. Victory isn't just about the accomplishment, It's
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  Speaker 1: about the striving that preceded it. Jerry, what were your
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  Speaker 1: initial thoughts? What spurred you to write the column that
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  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at. It's got a zill views, comments,
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  Speaker 1: everything else. What spurred you to write that column on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: Well, just to shift in emotion, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it felt like it was a topic that needed to
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  Speaker 4: be addressed.
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  Speaker 6: I felt like I needed to address it because it
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  Speaker 6: was one of the harder things to write. Like that's
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  Speaker 6: what I've come to specialize in, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, over the years, since I was a young tough
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  Speaker 4: at the Seattle Times, and I just I knew it
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  Speaker 4: was going to be a really tough righte man because
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  Speaker 4: like you're talking about a bunch of American heroes in
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  Speaker 4: the US men's hockey team, but the accomplishment versus the
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  Speaker 4: after party, like it's so strikingly different, and like how
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  Speaker 4: the accomplishment united us, and how I felt like their
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  Speaker 4: moment was co opted by certain political powers, you know,
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  Speaker 4: starting with the beer chugging FBI director who didn't need
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  Speaker 4: to be in the locker room with those guys, you know,
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  Speaker 4: on through to.
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  Speaker 6: The way the way that the joke that the President
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  Speaker 6: made and even the way that that he presented them
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  Speaker 6: and brought them out during the State of the Union address,
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  Speaker 6: like it didn't feel as inspiring for all Americans as
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  Speaker 6: as that moment when when Jack made the Golden Gold,
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  Speaker 6: you know. And so it was just something that I
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  Speaker 6: felt like needed to be said. I think I said
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  Speaker 6: it in a way that wasn't just like so arrogantly
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  Speaker 6: I'm right, you're wrong, you know. I tried to really
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  Speaker 6: really lay this out, and ultimately it was it was a.
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  Speaker 4: Column about sports, sports.
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  Speaker 6: Washing and how if you let, like especially in this
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  Speaker 6: in this societal climate that we're in, like if if
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  Speaker 6: you if you're not careful about the way politicians celebrate at.
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  Speaker 4: You, you can.
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  Speaker 6: Unknowingly be weaponized in a way that you didn't intend
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  Speaker 6: to be weaponized.
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  Speaker 1: As well, said you know I brought up earlier. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: you probably hear this as much as I hear this,
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  Speaker 1: although maybe maybe a little less as a columnist for
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  Speaker 1: The Athletic. But when you did this job that you
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  Speaker 1: did well for years here at KJR, you probably heard
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  Speaker 1: it from from people you know, let's not talk politics.
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  Speaker 1: Let's don't go down the political road things like that.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand that. And for the most part, I
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  Speaker 1: think we you know, we try to talk balls and strikes, goals, shots, saves, baskets, touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: what have you. But I mean I mentioned this earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like our world and it's always been this way.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like a change. Nothing's changed in the world
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  Speaker 1: that we live in. But you know, everything's political by
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  Speaker 1: the definition of what political is, you know, right, it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: creating power and influence. That's what politics are. Obviously, governance
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: comes into play, but that's that's what politics are. Everything's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: everything's political, and you know, but to me, it's not.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It's not choosing a side of being you know, pro Trump,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: anti Trump, you know, mega anti mega whatever. That's not
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: what this is. To me. It was like, and I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: know this, and I want to get into the what
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you just said about. You know, the State of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Union address is not a normal visit to Washington, right, Like,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a political pawn move, that's a power move.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And I mean, really, if I'm looking at it from
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint, I'd probably say, damn, like that's a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: great that's a power move by by that administration. Great job, right, like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: jump on that bandwagon. But that's that that they were pawns.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: To me, it was just the disrespect of the women
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and the women's game. And I think when you do that,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it's women in general. And that's Jerry. That's what really
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: bothers me and has bothered me really since since I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: first saw that video.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Ian, I think any any president from I mean
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Jimmy Carter was able to have that moment with the
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: miracle on ice, right, Yep, any president from Jimmy Carter
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: to now you know, whether they were red blue, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Republican or Democrat. Like, when a moment like that happens
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: just before you're about to deliver it, to deliver the
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: State of the Union address, you're going to invite them
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: to Washington, you know, and you are going to really
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: feed off of that energy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: But I think there's a difference between.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Trying to get everybody into a feeling of togetherness versus
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: trying to get everybody versus trying to get a certain
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: base into a feeling of dominance and superiority over others,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: including other Americans. Now, let me say that if it
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: were only about Trump inviting them to the State of
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: the Union, I wouldn't have written it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't have written it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: And the Seahawks will probably get this invitation, and they're
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: going to have a decision to make if they decide
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: to go to the White House. It's just not something
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: that I'm concerned with that. I wasn't concerned with it
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: when the Dodgers decided to go to the White House,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: when the Philadelphia Eagles last year decided to go to
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: the White House. The things that preceded it, right, Like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: you had an FBI director who is now under scrutiny
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: because he used taxpayer dollars to essentially go to this
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: gold medal game and party with the guys. That's one thing,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: But then it's the phone call, and it's the misogynistic tone.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: And I even give the guys a little bit of
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: a break for laughing, not that much of a break,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: but a little bit of one, because just what do
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: you do in that environment, right, Like, this is the
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: most powerful man.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: In the world, you know, at this moment saying something,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and like you.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Just don't want to have awkward silence around him, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: so like I don't try to superimpose too much of
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: like trying to predict like how they really felt about
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: the women's team. I know how he felt about him, right,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: like you pretty Trump very clearly stated it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: But it's it's the combination.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Of like all of these things and realizing that you're
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: you're already realizing that your accomplishment is being.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Politicized, not by me, right, not by you ian.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Like we're we are only reacting to what we what
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: what's happening, right, but being politicized by the people in power.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: And then to still make that decision that we're just
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: like going to continue this by going to the State
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: of the Union address what likes all but five of them, Uh,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I think that like, as adults, they should have been
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: a little more aware of what was going on and
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: maybe a little more resid hesitant to just go and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: like jump in that. And everybody wants to be celebrated,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: you know, as a champion. Everybody wants to parade, everybody
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: wants their moment in the sunshine.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: But this isn't normal.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Like I just want people to know, like, and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: understand people who hate my guts because this is the
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: the hill I chose to die on.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: But like this isn't.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: As normal as HW Bush, W Bush, Obama Clinton, any
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: of them inviting you to the White House.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Like this climate is different, and I think.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: You have to react accordingly, like to think that, you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: people just want to dismiss it as oh, it's a ritual.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: What are you like being a pansy about, Like no, no, no, no, no,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Like you have to consider like all of the dynamics
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: of this specific case.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And I'm not.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Saying demonize or treat these guys as villains, like they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: heroes and they're still going to be heroes. And sometimes
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: like everybody kind of parties inappropriately in some ways, and
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I think we just have to like let the winners
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: be the winners in that case. However, I think when
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: you put together like all of these things, it makes
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: where we're really troubling story about American society in general.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: And while it didn't ruin the accomplishment, it did ruin
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: some of the afterglow for a large percentage of Americans.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: And like the people who don't care cannot shout that down.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the Jerry Brewer joining us from
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the athletic. I think that's the issue is that, Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: for me, the accomplishment still incredible. And and you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: what happened on the ice is remarkable that that Canadian
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: team that was put together. I mean, I've had arguments
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: with with my hockey people, you know, on on and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: off the air, like was that the best team ever?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: That Canadian team? And you know there's teams that have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: had gretzkiinlam you on, and that's great. The depth of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that Canadian team was was unreal and the high end
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: talent was unreal and the USB them And yes it
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: took a heroic effort from Connor Hellibuk, but that's part
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of the game, like great goaltending, like great quarterback play
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in football, that's a part of the game. That position
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: is that important. So what happened on the ice is remarkable.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The fact that our country in that sport, which is
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: not a primary sport in this country. It's certainly it
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: would be number four on the list, right just like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the team sports, you know, in terms of you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: maybe it's slightly ahead of baseball with some kids that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: play it, but who knows, it's right in that mix.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Some football is not basketball. But the fact our country
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: has elevated to that level where we can compete on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: that stage, and we are one of the top two
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: teams in the world at that sport in men's hockey,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and we are far and away the best in women's hockey.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Is awesome. It doesn't take away from accomplishment. For me,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it's what you said, Jerry, it's the affricault, and I'm
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: with you. And this is where I feel. I don't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: know if I use the term conflicted. I almost feel
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: hypocritical and a little bit guilty to think this. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like we've you're partying, you're going crazy, you're celebrating something,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and men, as you said, the most powerful person in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the world calls horrible joke, distasteful, gross as the term
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I would use. And how do you react. There's a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: group think mentality, you know, and all that. To me,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it's not the initial reaction as much is what's the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: next reaction. Now today, there have been a couple of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: things today, Charlie mcavoways said, and I quote, we're sorry
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for how we responded to it in that moment. It's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: certainly not reflective of how we feel about them and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: their accomplishments. Charlie foot the Boston, brus Zach Warinsky says,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: from the Columbus Blue Jackets, incredible group of women. We
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: got to know them extremely well in the village. No
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: one was bigger supporters of them than us. I remember
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I was at the dinner for their gold medal game.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I was glued to my phone watching it. Obviously it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: not a great moment for us. So those two kind
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of the first that really kind of have basically kind
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of apologized and I thought, that's, Jerry, what you wrote
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: at the end, which I thought really kind of hammered
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it home for me. Members of Team USA mastered the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: first part. They were as careful with the other. Now
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: their historic triumph must compete for attention with the reckless
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: after party. So where do we go from here? Jerry?
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Ultimately we just get over it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: And it's the lesson learned for future champions, right because
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: you're going to have three more years of this and
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: not everything is going to be as powerful as Team USA.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Being in Canada and hockey.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: But like I think people just need to be aware,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Like the decision you make is the decision that you make.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Like I'm not going to tell somebody who like their
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: entire lives. They've thought, Okay, when I have my biggest
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: accomplishment in sports, I'm going to get to go to
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the White House.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell them, don't go to the White House.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: What I would tell them is, you know, watch out
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: for like the messaging around this, and make sure that
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: like your message, your message resonates more than anything else.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: And that's one where I think the men's hockey team
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: could have done a lot of different things. They could
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: have taken a step all right, you laughed in the moment,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: but like there still was like a lot of time
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: in between when you could have clarified that, even if
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: you just needed to make a statement, right, like just
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: a written statement, and there was I still think like, hey,
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: you know, after that, like the strongest thing you could
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: be was like, hey, we want.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: To come to Washington to be honored.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: But like we are not going to come and not
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: have the women also come right like, And I know
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: they had already made their decision and there was some
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: scheduling and those sort of things in there, but I
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: think that's a good moment where you could have said,
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: you know what, like we'll do this, We'll do this
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: in both of our off seasons, but like we need
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: to do this together. Like I mean that that could
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: have been something as opposed to you know, rushing rushing
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: off and being honored immediately.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: But again, right, like I mean, I'm it seems like
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: there's certain readers who are going to hold it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: It gets me for the rest of my life, but
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: me as a human being, like I'm not holding.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Against those dudes for perpetuity.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of over it in a sense, Like I
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: think it's a valuable lesson learned, and I would just
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: ask people to, like, can we like stop draping ourselves in.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: The American flag and just be human beings?
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Right, Like I understand why that was such a hot
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: button issue because I'm taking on some of the unsavory
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: things that MAGA doesn't like to admit is going on.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: And then I am also going after a team that
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: had this incredible accomplishment during a period of extreme patriotism,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: and that just gets people.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: All kinds of riled up.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: But we need to strip away all of that and realize,
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: like we owe each other, we have a social pact,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: and there's a certain thing called social graces, and we
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: need to get back to that and realize like we
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: all owe each other better.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: That men's team owed the women's team more.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: And I think it's just wonderful that the Hillary Knight
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: and others are really stepping into their power and they
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: sound way more coherent than me or anyone, and we.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Should just follow their example.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: And their example is we do not want this to
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: sully our accomplishment, so let's follow their lead.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. The accomplishments for both teams were remarkable,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately it will be part of the story, maybe
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: not forever. Maybe at some point, like you said, we
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: move on and it'll be for a little bit more forgotten.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And like I said, I think for me, I just
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: needed to hear something like I heard from Charlie macavoy
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and Zach Orinsky today. I need to hear that we
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: finally did. I'm not gonna say too little, too late,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: because those guys just got back to their teams and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, and I don't begrudge anybody, but I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: needed to hear those two guys say that. I think
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: some others have dropped the ball with the opportunities to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: do so, including leadership, including leadership with with you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Bill Garrion and others with USA Hockey. But I to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: hear those two players say that that to me starts
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the starts the process, and hopefully we'll get there soon enough.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: My friend. Great to see in the Athletic I've been
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a subscriber for many years and now I'm even happier
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: because you're writing for it. Uh A mission, buddy, will
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: see you soon, and thanks for coming on today, man,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Iam.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go, Jerry Brewer joining us. We'll come back.
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• 31:35
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• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The Cracking performance last night was one based on everything.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: The totality of the game coming off the break, where
• 31:49
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• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways.
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: And especially considering the circumstances, the stance.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: It's just being kind of a focal point. You're not
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be the focal point. There's no baseball, football is over,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Olympics are there. There's a lot of momentum from that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Everything's going on, and you come out and have that game.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: The good news is second half of a back to back,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: you get right back at it. Cracking taken on Saint Louis.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: You're saying chance, there's a chance.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: And now the funny thing is a year ago, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: even in a little bit of this year, I'd say
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: there in't much of a chance because at one point
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the krack Can had a record of zero fourteen and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: one dating back a couple two plus seasons in the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: second half of a back to back game. That has
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: changed since December this year. They're now four to one
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and one in the second half of back to backs.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So it's gotten better. It's gotten a lot better, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they'll have a chance to Saint Louis has won five
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: games since the start of the calendar year, since January
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: first five dikes. They're not good.
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: No Robert Thomas to them today either.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Robert Thomas is out. They've lost three straight games going
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: into the break. They lost six of eight going into
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the break. They're out of the playoff conversation eight games
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: below five hundred Crackner six above five hundred. Just to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: give you a little feel for where they are the standings,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis might be a seller as a trade deadline
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: gems in eight days, so there's a lot there. There
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: is a lot there. So you can fire away tonight
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if you the cracking and try to get things going.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Phil Grubauer being goal Joey the cord was okay last night.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Really hard to blame him. Didn't make really a save
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: when they needed it, but it's hard to blame him
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: on three of the four goals. I'd say the power
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: play goal that they challenged, they lost the challenge. They
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: had to lose it. They had to take the challenge
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: because they weren't gonna score again. That was one maybe
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he'd want back. But outside of that, I think it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: was hard to blame him last night. But Ruby coming
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: off really good Olympics for Germany. Last game. Did you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: see the last game, Andrews that that Germany played the quarters?
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: The who is it against?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: I think it was Yeah, Yeah, tough.
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: He was left out to dry, like in so many
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: of theirs.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: That was a very good German team.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, not in the back of the least.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Most cider and and that was kind of it. Stutsland dry,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Cytle up front, Phillip.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: That was it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you play the NHL All Star teams and
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: then it's like four NHL guys and the rest of
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: guys that play in Europe.
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: Well, and even so, it's like he had a really
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: good tournament overall, really had a good turn. He had
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: like a nine to thirty save percentage throughout the whole thing.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: Showing up on my highlights. Yeah, and I'm not algorithm.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're notith those highlights.
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: No, you're not German jefs well, but we don't talk
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: about that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, he was really good. He was really
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: good at tournament. He'll get the starts tonight. Hopefully you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: can keep that momentum going. Hopefully. Well, he got home
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I think on Friday night, Saturday morning, Friday night, I
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: think it was last week, so they gave him the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: weekend off, so he should be well rested and ready
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to go as they take on Saint Louis tonight against
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: four thirty. Pre game five o'clock is the drop of
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the puck for the Kraken and the Saint Louis Blues tonight.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Our guy Mikey Benton will be doing the pregame for you,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Everett and l on the call tonight, cracking by the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: way back home. On Saturday, they'll take on the Vancouver Canucks,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: who are in the midst of a fire sale.
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  Speaker 10: Knuckleheads.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good one to be at. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to go to a game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go get that one. You need to get that
• 35:31
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• 35:37
  Speaker 1: medalists from Team USA that played for the Torrent also
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with silver medallist Julia Gosling for Team Canada. They are
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on the ice tomorrow, the Torrent, playing their first home
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  Speaker 1: game back after the Olympic break as well climb plagering.
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  Speaker 1: That'sposed to be a huge crowd. By the way, they're
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: opening up the whole building, upper bowl, all that kind
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of fun stuff. So that should be a really good
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: night for the Torrent tomorrow night. So a lot of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: hockey coming up here and cracking time. Okay, let's reset
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: everything real quick. We've got Corben Smith coming up top
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: of the hour. Like I said, Corbyn can't get away
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: from us. We want to talk little Seahawks football. We've
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: heard from John Schneider and Mike McDonald earlier this week
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: on back to back day. Schneider on Tuesday, McDonald yesterday.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: We got free agency on the horizon. We're coming up
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: a week from Monday. Will be the weirdest thing in
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the world. Legal tampering. Huh.
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: Legal tampering just doesn't sound legal until you put the
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: front of it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It feels like an oxy moron. But legal tampering coming
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: up a week from Monday. What are the Seahawks gonna do?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: What should they do? What can they do. We'll talk
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to Corbyn Smith coming up at two o'clock today. Again,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: we're taking your calls. You've heard Jerry, you heard my
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: thoughts four nine four or five to one. We'll get
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: your talkbacks in, we'll get it up. I'm sure we've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: got one or two text messages coming in as well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and the Takuma Dodge text line four nine, four to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: five to one as we kind of put a bow
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: on what happened the Olympic hockey is and the kind
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: of the aftermath as well. So that's coming up too,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: So fire off those fox comments, questions, concerns, and I'm
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of concerns, so we'll get to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: all those in the final hour of the show. Corbyn
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Smith coming.
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• 38:32
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• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Oregon State fired head basketball coach Wayne Tinkle today. It
• 38:47
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  Speaker 2: When he had when he had three tinkles.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when all the tinkles were there. But yeah, he
• 38:55
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• 39:00
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• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Leave it at that, Wayne Tinkle, David Riley. I guess
• 39:10
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• 39:12
  Speaker 1: let's get to it. Our guy, Corbyn Smith standing by.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 39:43
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• 39:45
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• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I'm done right three Thursday, let's go.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: He apparently has short arms. He's got short arms.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, stuck MEAs.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Short arm is the glorified me Mark.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I guess what. Corbyn Smith also has short arms, but
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: he's still here to join us. How are you, sir,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: our good?
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: Well?
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: You know, at least I'm not an NFL player, NFL hopeful.
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: I don't think the arm leg's gonna matter for me
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: too much.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I think you're I think you're okay. I mentioned this earlier.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, you just can't get away
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: from us. Man. I needed a little I need a
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: little Corbin on this Thursday. I needed a little Seahawk
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: conversation on this Thursday. And thus here we are, sir,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: talking to little seahawks. Mostly because we've heard both from
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Schneider and McDonald this week. We'll go a little deeper
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: into things and to specific players in a second, but
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: just a general overview of what you heard from those
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: two guys this week.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: Well, it's interesting, Ian, I actually was not in the
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: Indie this week, so I was watching the interviews after
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: the fact. But you know, you look, I think Mike
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: McDonald had the more interesting stuff to say this week
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: from the sense of, you know, answering questions about players
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: potentially retiring, which that has been a big talking point
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: here in the last few days with people that I've
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: spoken with, Jaron Reed, Marcus Lawrence, being guys who could
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: potentially be considered walking away from the game, and getting
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: to hear McDonald talk a little bit about ken Walker
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: the third and maybe that was the most fascinating thing here,
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: Ian is you know, John Schneider didn't sound like it
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: was more just the typical, well, we'd love to have
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: ken Walker back, and Mike McDonald is like better things, like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: you know, better things are coming ahead, you know, basically
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: we're looking forward to It sounded like two different logics
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: there in terms of the way they were handling that
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: particular free agent.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Let's let's go. You're doing the free agent primers right
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• 41:55
  Speaker 1: start with Jackson Smith and Jigbu and and he's not
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a free agent, but he's probably along with Devin Witherspoon,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: those are guys that they're gonna have to figure out
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: what's next as a as a head into you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: not a contract year yet, but close to it, a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: year away before they start kind of start stacking stuff up.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I thought what Schneider said was interesting, and I like
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: how they had the philosophy of it's not a fifty
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: three man roster, it's a seventy man roster. They always
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: kind of include the practice squad. Corbin, I think you'd
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: agree with me this year even more so because if
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you have four draft picks. Let's say they trade thirty
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: two overall and they end up with five or six
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: draft picks, it's still not a big draft class. The
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: udfa's are going to be important for them this year.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You may have to guarantee some higher money for those guys,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of finances to work through here.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about JSN. What do they need to do
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: with him? And do you believe that he's on par
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to be the highest paid receiver in the NFL.
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: Well, I'll tell you what, Denise do he and they
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: need to get this steal done as soon as they
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: possibly can. I think, you know, sometimes you see what
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: these first raft picks they have to fifty or option.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: We just saw Seattlitude this with Charles Cross where they
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: picked up the fifty year option and then eventually they
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: were able to strike an agreement. But most of the
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: time that's usually where these things tend to go. But
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: when you have an offensive player of the Year and
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: the NFL's leading receiver, who oh, by the way, he
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: is just twenty four years old. If I'm John Schneider,
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: I'm thinking, look, I'm gonna spend the money right now.
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: And if that means I got to pay him forty
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: million a year, that I pay him forty million a year,
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: that still sounds better than waiting a couple of years
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: and paying forty five or fifty million a year a
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: couple of years down the road if he keeps producing
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: the way that you expect he's going to. So I
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: think this deal is gonna get done. I think John
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Schneider's gonna make that a priority. Because I will also
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: tell you this, there's a lot of wingo out there
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: about well do you really want a receiver to be
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: your highest paid player? And all those narratives that are
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: out there. If Jackson's been in but does not get
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: rewarded with a contract like that, it is going to
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: permeate in the locker room, like his teammates expect that
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: he's going to get paid that way because he has
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: earned that and he is a leader on and off
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: the field for the smoke ball team.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's with him. It's it's I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: kind of always equate sometimes, you know, contracts, and maybe
• 44:19
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful house but it's in a bad neighborhood. Well,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that house isn't gonna be worth a lot. You can
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: be wide receivers are valued in this league. Contracts tell
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: us where their value, what values are in this league.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: You know, want snappers at the bottom of the list.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Quarterbacks number one right there, number two, wide re weevers
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: are rush ends. Those guys are valued, their high value guys.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And so you know, his market value, like you said,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: unless he takes this massive drop off, his market value
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: is not going to go down.
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: Oh we won't. And we've seen the contracts the way
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: that it's been very similar to the path with quarterbacks,
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: where it's just guys just keep weeping frogging over each
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: other and there's a lot of fifty plus million dollar
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: a year qbs. Then I don't think are worth that,
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: but that's the way the market is dictating things. Receivers
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: very similar. We've seen Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. A
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: number of these receivers go out and get big money deals.
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: Jayasen is just gonna be next to the line there
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: and again, Jamar Chase when he got his demo was
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: twenty five going on twenty six. Jayasen just turned twenty four.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: You're cooking almost two years younger. I am getting that
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: deal done yesterday to get him locked up. I by
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: John Schneider.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Let's go with pecking order is he won. Is Devin
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon number two.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd have Spoon number two, and again another guy
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: who is twenty four going on twenty five, and you
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: saw what he hit at that Super Bowl. Just how
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: important he is to this defense long term and in
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: the present. I think that those are the two guys.
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: I'd be more worried about that than my pending free
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: agents that I have. If any of those guys were
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: in the same prett they would have probably got extended
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: already before this point. So I think those are Jona
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: Schneider's two biggest priorities, and if I had to predict,
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: they're both gonna have to do contracts by early in
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: training camp at the latest.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: They got ahead of things. Corporus Smith Emerald City Spectrum
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  Speaker 1: got Charles crossed one, which is a good thing. Abe
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Lucas is locked up, Zabels are on a rookie contract
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: going into the year two. Sundell's really cheap. As far
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: as you know, centers are concerned. Who knows what's gonna
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: happen at right guards so you've got really bre you
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: got sam donold is under contract, you got him situated
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: as well. So in the pecking or is you're kind
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: of going through priorities. And this is kind of your
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: your it's a budget, right, you're allocating money. It's what
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: your budget says you can afford. So as you're going
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: through there, you've taken you take care of these top items,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: these line items. Next up, is it ken Walker? Is
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: it boy Mafe? Is it's Kobe Bryant? Is it Riek Wollen?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Is it Josh Joel? Where where's the next priorities? Where
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: are the priorities come in at that point?
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: You know, if you would have asked me this two
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: and half months ago, it wouldn't have been ten Walker
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: the third, But I think it has to be ken
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: Walker the third now. And because of Zach charbon eighth
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: injury situation.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Now, I know that.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: Mike McDonald said things are looking more optimistic on that front,
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: but I and he just had surgery last week. I mean,
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: he just now is starting the recovery process for an
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: injury that usually takes at least eight to nine months
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: to get back from. That would track to late October
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: early November. I mean, there's a really good chance that
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: he misses more than half of next season. So do
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: you want to go into the year with George Hallani
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: and Kenny McIntosh's coming off his own ACL tear? Do
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: you want to go with those guys moving forward and
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: not have Ted Walker third back. There's gonna be a
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: price point where John Schneider will shark tank this and
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: say I'm out. But I think that that is definitely
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: going to be the third priority here. You're looking at
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: the two big extensions. I think Ken Walker the third,
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: him being just twenty five years old as well, another
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: guy that's beloved in the locker room. I think that's
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: when sometimes you have to go with what the rosters.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Build as and even if they draft.
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: Running back, you mentioned it, they four picks, it might
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: be difficult to use one of those picks on a
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: running back too. I think Canine is next in line.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you, you and I talked to our friend Rob
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Rang a lot, and since last August when we first
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: started doing our weeklies with Rob talking about the NFL Draft,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: he's told us over and over again, listen, it's not
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: a great class for running backs. There's one guy that's
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: got a Day one maybe even one guy's got a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Day one and first and second round grade? Or am
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I love to drop off after that significant It's not
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like you have eight draft picks and it's a really
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: deep running back class right for Corbyn. So I think
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you have to look at that too, and then or
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: you can go down the free agency route and find
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a cheaper alternative out there. But you know, is Rico
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Doubtle gonna give you what ken Walker? Did you know?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Like that's the question, Like it is Breece Hall or
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: whoever else is out there. That's where you have to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: kind of make the decision, right, And I think what
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: you said is interesting. Ken Walker is only twenty five,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Like he's a young he's still a young player. Yes,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he's missed time, but how you can make the argument
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: after coming off his first full seventeen game season and
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the three playoff games, the guy's better than he's ever been.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: And that's my argument here. I think you for you know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: free agency, you got to pay, and it's tougher with
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: running backs. You've got to be able to You're wanting
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: to pay for what you are expecting to get performance wise,
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: not what you've just received. And then you've got to
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: balance that because he's earned a big contract of what
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: he just did in the playoffs, but because he's twenty five.
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: He seemed like he really figured out this scheme the
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: last seven or eight games too, the vision, the flow
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: with the wide zone runs. As a running back connoisseer myself,
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: I think this is absolutely a guy that I'm investing
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: a second contract in, and I think teams should be
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: more willing to do that. I mean they did until
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: ten years ago and then said, I say, these guys,
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: oh my gosh, he's twenty six, we can't pay him
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: like book what Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry had been doing,
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: and some of the other players that are getting second
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: and third contracts up until like twenty ten, A lot
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: of running backs lasted eight, ten, eleven years. So I
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: think Cani's got a ton acause football left in front
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: of him. I think he's figured out the system. To me,
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: he's got to be a guy that you find a
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: way to get back unless the price just is way
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: out of your zip code.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Corman, there seems to be a consensus that's gonna be
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: one of job or Woolen knot both, and most people
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: believe it seems like it just probably because of the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: finances and what maybe Wolan will get on the market,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: that Job is more likely to come back than Wolan.
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: Would you agree, Yes, I would, because I just I
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: find it really hard to believe that Rike Wollan is
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: not going to have at least a couple teams that
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: are going to be throwing the bag at him just
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: because of his athletic trades, his size, and oh, by
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: the way, he's been really productive. It's not like he's
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: been a bad football player. There's just been those inconsistency issues,
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: the aside that lapses once the blue mood, some of
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: the penalty issues, fifth tackling, though he was a lot
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: better in that regard second half of this year. I
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: think there's gonna be several teams salivating at the opportunity
• 51:40
  Speaker 8: to be able to offer him big bucks, and I
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: just I don't think John Snider's gonna do it. I
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: think he'll be more willing to pay Josh Job and
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: then take advantage of what I think is a fantastic
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: cornerback draft class this year.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: So where does We talked to Greg Bell yesterday and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: he believes that Kobe Bryant is a really big part
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: of what Mike McDonald wants to dogu to do. And
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Tylecotta had a great, you know season at times filling
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: in for injuries in the secondary at the safety position.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: But Greg's of the belief that Kobe Bryant is someone
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald really likes and really cherishes. Whether or not
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that makes a difference when it comes to opening up
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the check book. The checkbook primers. Our friend Corbyn Smith
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: says all the time, but do you think Kobe Bryant
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is an all priority for Seattle? Do you think they'll say, well,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: we'll just go with Tyle Cootta.
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: I as you look, based on I heard earlier in
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: the season, the Seahawks were trying to approach Kobe Bryant
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: and his reps about an extension and they were far apart.
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: Now maybe that changes now, and I do think Mike
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: McDonald's gonna have a voice in that. But we know
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: Mike McDonald holds Tayakatta in high regard as well. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: Akata played at a i'd say above average starter level,
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: but he played this year, he played really well. He
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: is on an exclusive rights free a seat tender that's
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: gonna be signed. He is much cheaper, and honestly, he
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: is the better athlete of the two. Not to say
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: he's a better player, but his money's gonna talk here,
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: and I'm sure Seattle's gonna be trying to fight a
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: way to make this happen like McDonald's will be happening.
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: A lot to do with that, But I also think
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  Speaker 8: that this is going to be one of those spots
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  Speaker 8: where because they already have an in house option that's
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: proven he can play. I do wonder if that impact
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: Seattle's willingness to pay big bucks to bring him back this.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Year before they go. Corbyn Smith joining us here on
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the Beacon Plumbing hotline. I haven't had a chance to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: talk to you since the Seahawks made their decision and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Brian Flurry coming in. They do keep John
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Benton on offensive line, which I think you and I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: have talked about before. I know you believe that was
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: a huge deal to try to keep him even if
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: he didn't get the OC position. Some thoughts on the
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: new offensive coach.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: I'm a big Brian Flurry fan. I actually had him
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: on my short list when the Seahawks Quint Kobiac, and
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: I had heard from a number of coaches that I
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: have contact with who had worked with him in the
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: past that he was a rising young star, a great
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: football mind. Players absolutely love him. If you saw what
• 54:15
  Speaker 8: George Kittle tweeted immediately after this move was announced, George
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: Kittle was probably the biggest fan of Brian Flurry. And
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: I think tight end coaches. Ben Johnson was a tight
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: end coach before he became OC like, you have to
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: know the run game and the passing game to be
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: a tight end coach to be an effective one. I
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: think he is going to be well equipped and he
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: had in the fact he's coached defense in the NFL two.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: You have to know that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: Mike McDonald was just loving that aspect. I think he's
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: gonna have a unique perspective. And I think if there's
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: a guy that could come in with no play calling
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: experience and excel similar to what Ben Johnson did, I
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: think Bryant Flurry is the guy that can do it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: No.
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: By the way, he's got most of his personnel coming back,
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: which makes this a he saw a landing pad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think what what McDonald said, I thought jumped
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: out at me, and it's he stated something that is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the obvious, Corbyn, but it's also like, oh yeah, sometimes
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: we have to be reminded of that. And and Mike
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: McDonald said, well, listen, everyone's a first time play caller, right,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Like everyone's a first time play caller at some point.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: And and that's the case with Fleury. Now there's a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: difference between you know that we saw a guy that
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: was a great play caller we thought in college more
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: or less with Ryan Grubb, right not not? You know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: he failed miserably here in Seattle. So you know, play
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: calling experience, even at the college level, maybe it's not
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: as necessary as just being at the NFL level. I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: don't know, the play calling thing. I thought that was
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: an interesting comment by McDonald's.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I wasn't surprised that he said that because
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: he's always been a proponent of ever since he came
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: to Seattle. Hey, you got to give people opportunities, and
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: you got to you gotta look at who's aligned with
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: you philosophically, who coaches the way that you want to coach,
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: handles players the way you want to handle players. All
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: those things are just as important, if not more important
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: than what the scheming stuff is. You've got to be
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: able to know when to dial up certain plays, obviously,
• 56:12
  Speaker 8: and tacticians win in this league. But I think that
• 56:15
  Speaker 8: Brian Fleurry is going to be a tactician in his
• 56:18
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  Speaker 4: GO USA.
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  Speaker 14: That was a great win by both men and women,
• 59:16
  Speaker 14: but the aftermath was just disgusting. I mean, them just
• 59:20
  Speaker 14: eating McDonald's in the White House. I've had enough of
• 59:23
  Speaker 14: that picture. In general, it's just it's just weird.
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  Speaker 4: Go USA.
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: But I agree the aftermath has been disgusting.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I'll talk backs in a second. I wanted I wanted
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Anders to stop there because I do want to and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I think I was clear about this in the first segment.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I I don't know about you and me. I I
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: think an invite to the White House is unreal, Like
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's great.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: I would.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: I don't care, and I don't really care who the
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: sitting president is. And I would go, And I think
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I would go no matter what I think. I think
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  Speaker 1: I would. I'd love to see the end. There's a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: lot of people like talking about different Let me just
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I have such great respect for the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: politics of this country. I spent four year studying it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a journalism major. I wasn't a broadcasting major.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Nice.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I the first time went to Washington, d C. To
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: cover SEAOT game. I just walked around in awe of
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the city for a couple hours. It was actually a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Monday night game. They went there for the first time,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: and it was it was just it was aspiring. As
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: someone who'd spent a lot of time and studying the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: politics of our country. Actually, I should say that I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: did have one class, the politics of the Soviet Union,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: which ended up being the most worthless class ever because
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: the Soviet Union as we know it collapsed and turned
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: back into Russia in oother stage about six months later.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: I was gonna say, how long after that?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely of time and also the hardest class I've ever
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: taken in my life. Oh wow, I think somehow I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: sneak to see out of it.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the second hardest chemistry at oday was the hardest
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: really with brother Lackey. Yeah, because I'm a dummy with
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But no, that was a Secondard's class.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I joke. No, I I think if I and we
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of people saying that, I think there's
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  Speaker 1: you can invited the White House. I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: great honor. It's it's and that's why I have a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: problem with January sixth, because we attacked what to me
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: is a sacred institution, and that is the capital of
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  Speaker 1: our country. I have a great respect for it. I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: would always say yes, I think, I mean, I would,
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  Speaker 1: I would. You know, I always is a one hundred
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: percent nothings one hundred percent in this world. But God
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I'd always want to go to the White House, you know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what happened. Other stuff is different. Stay of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the Union is a little bit different. I think, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, as a strategist, I think it's a brilliant
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  Speaker 1: move invite the heroes of this country.
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  Speaker 10: And Jerry said that too. It's like, it's, yeah, the invite,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 10: that's the issue.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: It's a partisan thing, you know, I mean it's and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I would never want to be the person that stands
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: up in booze during a state of the Union right
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: as people do. I think that's massively disrespectful. Save it
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: for Roger, Yeah, exactly. All right, let's get let's get
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: to more talk backs where we go.
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  Speaker 15: It seems a lot of men want to say they
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 15: support equality and then when they see inequality in action,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 15: have actually no idea that they're even witnessing it in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 15: the moment, and then have no idea how to respond
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 15: when they realize, oh, oh that's what that is. People
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 15: have tried to educate them, and they continue to disrespect
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 15: women and prove they don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Two five three says along those lines. So if you're
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a mail and have a conservaive value your knuckle dragon,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you need to apologize or taking call from the president Ian,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: don't be a puke and a snake. I think what
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I tried to say about that is, listen, I put
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: my self in the category of that I can be.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. I just I fully admit that, and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I say stuff, and I do things and I have
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sixty years old and through my entire life I've
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: done really dumb things all the time. And then I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: look back and go, damn, why did I not realize
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: how stupid that was? And that's why I give those
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: guys a pass. To a point. On Sunday, the President
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: calls you laugh, you're part you look around. By the way,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many deep we were into the coronas,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: which again, why are we drinking corona?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: That was odd?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: That was an odd odd deer really.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Of all, which is really weird because consider who called
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: and everything, Like, just when you just consider the totality
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: of it, Okay, I just drinking corona.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Com pairs with Mickey D's.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Team USA is drinking Okay, So that aside, poor beer taste,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: poor beer tastes aside, you're four or five beers in,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: You're adrenalines at an all time high. You just can't.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: The golden goal was scored Since twoenty ten, you've lived
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: with the golden goal scored against you by Sydney, Crosby
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: and Vancouver in North America, and you get one of those,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: that's what happens. The call comes, you're taking the call,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You quiet down. Yeah, And I think Jerry said it, Well,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: you're not just gonna sit on a president. You can't
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: say that. It just is a very bad situation those
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: players are put in, really and I fully admit I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: might have been a dummy two and left honestly, And
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I think if you look in the mirror, how many
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: of us maybe wouldn't have it no matter where you are.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I just think back of if I did I be
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Oh God, why did I do that? That is just
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: massively and if I'm truly close with the women's team,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: and if I was friends with you know, Jack Hughes,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what bothers me. Jack Hughes was
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: taken away is before any of this hate happened and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: came out. He was asked about it. He goes, what
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: were you thinking in the moment, because I was thinking
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: about Megan Keller, who scored the golden goal for the US. Yeah,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about her.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Those guys do get along. They are tight, they are
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: there is cross pollination because USA Hockey is one big umbrella.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: All those things are true. I probably would have said,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe that if it was me,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna call Hillary or whoever I know on
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: the team. You know what I'm gonna say, Oh god,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I laughed. It's my fault and I'm sorry,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: and then you move on. It just took too long
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry. Yeah, And I think that's what
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to in the first SEGA. It
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: just took too long. And I love what Orensky and
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: mcaway came out today and said. It just, you know what,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: we screwed up kind of took away from the moment.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: We should we you know, they've all said the same thing.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: We respect the women are great. In that moment, you didn't.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But in that moment, you were put in a really
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: difficult situation. And I get that part of it. I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: get that part.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: We got one more talk back on it either Ian Juman, editors, Chrisenberien.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 13: I'll just get my gripe out of the way and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 13: I'll be to the point. Under no circumstances should any
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 13: government official use government resources for personal use. That was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 13: a complete personal trip, as you can see in the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 13: videos from our director of the FBI, and that's unacceptable
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 13: on all levels. Now for the Team USA voice, excellent win.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 13: That was edge of the seat, best hockey games and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 13: fastest hockey I've ever seen.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, thank you, Chris I Burien two five three.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Can you listen to local sports talk without liberal nonsense
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: being aired? That sucks? Have to add Ian show to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: something to never listen.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: To any longer.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I get a lot of that, the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: liberal stuff. Yeah yeah, I'm gonna just I think you'd
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: be surprised of what I how I stand on automations.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I think people get really surprised how I stand on
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. Let's see, you know, because we
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: live also now in a world black and white.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. It's it's you have to be one or
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the other, right.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I just remember, like very first elementary politics, like this
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: elementary might be police side one on one. I've been
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: high school police. I just been like, Okay, Democrats, what
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: do they believe in? Higher taxes, social reform, you know,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: helping the community, borderline socialism, Republicans opposite of all. Okay,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: roll versus Wade. What side you stand on? Yeah, I'm
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: on pro abortion. I'm I'm pro choice, Okay, pro choice? Right, Okay,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Well then you're a Democrat. Oh okay? Oh wait, wait
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: wait what wait a second? I mean how you vote
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: may not be how you feel, but the pressure from
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: your party may push you in a certain direction.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Correct, and also will put one label or another on
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: every single person.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: Well, and along that same line, Yan, I think the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: you can be upset on two fronts, right. You can
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: be upset with a joke and everything that happened. You
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: can also be upset with how the men's team from
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: a lot of the people that I respect that are
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: championing women's sports have been now demonized. And I don't
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 10: think that's right either. I think the reaction has been
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 10: a little too strong in some cases.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's been a I think there's been a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think there has been a yes that the reaction.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: Has been.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: There's some there's there's a lot of victims here that
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: are looking for a reason, Like I'm just I'll just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. And I've said this on the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: air before, and this is this is where people are
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: going to be going, Wait a second, I'm very you're
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: very conflicted. I am conflicted. I'm not a Megan Rapino
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: fan at all. Yeah, because I think she's the most
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: divisive athlete we have in our country.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Who was at the time, for sure she still is.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, why was she at the Torrent thing?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Because because that's how you fight back. You went, like, listen,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: here's what happened. Someone, someone shot, someone threw a stone.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: So you picked up a boulder and she's the boulder. Yeah, okay,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: So like there's no middle ground, there's no common ground
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: right now at all. And I'm looking at these texts
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: for all of you that say you're never going to
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: listen to again. I apologize, I'm sorry. I hope you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: come back. We have other great shows on the radio
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: station that's fantastic, Chuck and Buck in the morning, MJ
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: in the midday, Softy Fine, and Accident Afternoon. If you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: want to tune out one to three and you want
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: to go listen to something else like self interviews and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: third and fourth down every day. You go do that, man,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: you go do that. My my, I I appreciate the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: need to listen in the past. That's fine. Okay, can
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I bring you a a fun note? Let's see, I, Ian,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I agree with supporting women's sports. To agree with keeping
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: boys out of girl sports, okay, I'll go down that road. Absolutely,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: keep girls, keep boys out of girl sports, one hundred percent. Yes,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: And again that puts me on inside of the aisle
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: that you're not used to, right, you're thinking, Wait a second,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I thought I had this guy figured out.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 10: You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Ian, I don't think if my daughter was still competing
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: in high school sports, would I want a biological male
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: competing against or No? I mean no, I just wouldn't.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: But again, that's now I've got he's hanging all over
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the place. What's going on? Because and trust me, that's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: a whole different Yeah, that's a whole different can of worms.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: That actually, again, isn't black and white. No it's not.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: It isn't black and white, No it's not. But it's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: a in our state right now, it is a massive massive,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: massive deal, like a huge deal in our state. Let's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: see well done. He and the joke shouldn't be ignored
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and swept under the rug. It's not a complex with
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: three dimensional chests. It's misogynistic. That's right, as simple as that.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: And as a father of two teenage girls, just wanting
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: to still hear and see this type of behavior spoken
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: out loud then brushed off is not a big deal.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: We should strive to be better than that as men
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: and Americans. And I think that's what I was trying
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: to say. I think the two h six in a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: text that are probably better than I did on the air.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I think that person nailed it. I really do. Don't
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: just don't brush it off again. It's not the end
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: of the world. In my mind. The accomplishment on the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: ice was incredible. It could have been handled differently. I'm
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: not even gonna say, and I think I've been are
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: very very clear about this. I don't think at the time,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how it could have been handled differently.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: We can be a heroic group and say they should
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: have just slammed their fist down and said screw you,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: mister president. No, no, it's still president of the United
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: States of America. It's still the President the United States
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: of America. Like them, dislike them, agree with them, disagree
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: with them. It's President of the United States of America.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: That's it's It's a really tough situation that they were
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: put in. It could have been handled better quickly afterwards.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: It is being handled as the days go on. Here
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: we are four days afterwards. It's being handled better now again.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: McAvoy Warrenski at the top of the list. Good for
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: those guys as well. My goodness. Brewer and Iron likes
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: things like you let them be. There's a lot of
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: anti Jerry Brewer things on here. He said that going in,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: he knew that was going to happen going in. Jerry
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: is does what he does at a very high level
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: for a reason, and he's good at it. And you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: may agree with him, he may disagree with him as well,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and you may never ever ever ever listen or you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: read his stuff again. Caleb Ransom says, absolutely atrocious to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: put on Brewer to spew this drivel. Shameful. Just put
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: that in the category have never have Jerry on again.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: It was shameful to put them on.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: Shameful. Wow, shameful. I usually reserve that for other things
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: I do in my life.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Two oh six, Jerry is biased. Article is a one
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: sided thinking. Let me explain to you how wait for it,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: columns work. Let me explain how columns work.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 12: You are.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Jerry was hired by The Athletic to again write a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: help me All column with an opinion. Let's see, I.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: Still love the show. If I wasn't gonna listen it
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: because you're a kook.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's again. There's a there's a there's
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: a lot, there's a lot of people that that have
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: tuned turned us off. My favorite one is like two
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: or three people have tuned us off, turned off the show,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and yet they texted twenty minutes, thirty minutes, an hour later. Yeah,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I see, we hear the thing. We see your phone numbers,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: so we know if you're taking back as well.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 12: Oh my god, you want a little something fun, Yeah,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 12: it's gonna well. The US Women one were treated to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 12: one of the best Italian dinners by Stanley Tucci after
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 12: their gold medal win while they were still in Italy
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 12: in this July. They I mean, I could I sneak
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 12: it as an intern because that sounds amazing. And also
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 12: Flavor Flav is hosting in July and he and that'll
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 12: be in Vegas.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: So he invited them. I saw that over.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 11: Actually it was a couple of days ago that I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: saw the invite go out, but it was confirmed today
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 11: that he will be hosting an event with them, and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 11: I think that that is nice and fun.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's a couple on here that are
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: just unbelievable. We don't need to do no, no, I'm
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: just I'm just the text line. Never you know what,
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• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: then let's go Dick. Fane joined us right now. Hello, sir,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 10: How are we doing?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I'm good?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 10: How are you good doing?
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: They're good.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 16: I mean it's fifty five degrees out in February. Well
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 16: we're gone and hit the I should have gone hit
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 16: the links.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Today, buddy. I'm telling you last week when I had
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: a week off, the week before was fit. Remember the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: week before we had you know, fake spring.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Then last week it was like forty and rainy most days,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: and no, I went it balls one time, and it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this isn't fun. I'm saying I picked that.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 16: I picked a good week to go Paul Springs, is
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 16: what you're saying, because I because basically ever since, like
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 16: ever since I've been in Seattle, since the Super Bowl,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 16: it's been nice, like every day.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I missed all the rain. I think it's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: a nice weekend coming up too. I think it's not bad. Yes,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: hockey all weekend, but it's that's fine.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna be in a pool, indoor pool, are you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 10: the whole week?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: And oh you got daughter swim swims?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 16: Yes, I will be in a pool all week and long,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 16: which is great when it's forty five in raining, not
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 16: one I'd rather be outside in the sun.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Do you guys swim out in Federal Waste?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 13: Is?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: That's things still going?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: That thing is still going. We swim there frequently.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 16: The two places we swim the most are that and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 16: then Snowhomish, which is fabulous for me who lives down
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 16: to the South End.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: Oh, I love going to Snowhome.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet that's fine.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: Beautiful right there.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 16: It's a great community. I mean, you know, there's some
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 16: nice restaurants out there. You know, there's a there's actually
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 16: a bar and grill like within walking distance from the pool.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 16: So I will definitely be frequenting that on Saturday during
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 16: a breakway college hoops.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: That will definitely happen.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: That is perfect. I swam briefly for the Shoal Shoal
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Athletic Club, which was our Our pool was the Ballad Pool,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: And when I was growing up in seventh and eighth grade,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I was briefly on the on the Sholschal Athletic Club
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: swim team. Yeah, I had a ball at a ballard
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: and I love swimming. I love the water. I would
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: consider myself a good swimmer, like a strong swimmer. But
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: as far as like swimming racing wise, like I was
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: about as good at that as I was at chemistry
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: in high school.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 10: I imagine that it didn't go well for you.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: It did not go well, it did, you know. I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: do appreciate my parents. I tried almost everything like growing up,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: like I did. I we skated, played hockey and stuff
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: out of the Ballot Ice aren until it closed when
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: I was about six or seven. Uh, then we did.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I boxed for a while really yeah, and at the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Queen Anne Community Center we had a box.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 10: I'm telling you that right now.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: What's that.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 10: I would not score up with the internet that right now.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 16: Big guy that can throw hands out ever's got longer,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 16: he's a t Rex. Yeah, he's like Melvin Ingram was
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 16: back in the day. But I wasn't good at that,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 16: so you can, well, that's what I'll square up against me,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 16: because I wasn't very good at that.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't like getting hit. It was weird. I it
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: was not fun. I could know, like the the bags
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: and stuff. They were cool when they actually when you
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: actually had to. And the thing was, I was tall
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: but thin, so just weight class wise, as you went
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: against guys that were like six inches shorter but a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot stronger. And yeah, that wasn't fun.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't good at that. Couldn't play the guitar.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Tried that for a while, not musically. I was a
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: good soccer player, okay, yeah, good soccer player.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: And there's not the great body type for a soccer
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: player either.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Really well, but I was the ground, right I was.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I was a goalie, so I was okay at that.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was okay at basketball and decent baseball player,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: but couldn't hit once the ball started moving, like you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: not just straight like everybody else.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 16: So yeah, I just wish I had the drive that
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 16: my kid does, Like I didn't have any more of that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Now than we didn't go out. I wonder if they do.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 16: I think I yeah, I think I wish some more
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 16: on my basketball team had that drive.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Not all of them do. I wish some more on
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the local NHL team had it last night or last night.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 16: Yeah, we'll talk to Big Al about that. And also
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 16: it's been a rough week for Big Al. I mean,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 16: big Al Kaniski's had a rough hockey week. Meis Canadian
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 16: because he's Canadian. He went from losing the gold medal
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 16: game to watching whatever that was last night.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't I don't know.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened last night, But I hope
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: it never happens again, because that was an opportunity wasted
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: with a lot of people in the city watching you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: and tuning in for the first time, maybe even last night.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what you got.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 16: You want some good news, Yeah, Saint Louis Blues, you'll
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 16: love this. They are three and thirteen on the money Line.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 16: This year as favorites, which they are tonight. Yes, here's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 16: another nugget.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: It's the second.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 16: If they were to continue this percent all year long,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 16: it would be the second worst return on investment in
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 16: twenty years.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: In the NHL bet, the Kraken stick came up tonight.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I can't say anything in regards to that, dick, but
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I will tell you this if people are listening, Saint
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Louis has five wins and one of those came in
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: a shootout since January first.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Ooh yikes.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 10: Okay, and so why are they favored because they're playing
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: the kracking?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: No comment? What are you coming up with the show?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Very nice?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: Anders my god? Well, obviously short show thanks to the kracking.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: So that's good.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 16: It's because I Mitch Well talking to Big Alt four fifteen.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 16: A lot of Seahawks today. John Schneider was on with
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 16: Pat McAfee today. Oh, he did like a thirty minute
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 16: sit down.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: It was excellent.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 16: So we're gonna play some excerpts from that coming up
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 16: at three thirty. And I want to talk to a
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 16: little bit more. I only just touched the surface with
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 16: Jackson about yesterday about our biggest fears going into the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 16: twenty twenty six season.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 10: So I'll u we'll break that down the first.
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  Speaker 1: Second, I will I will point out as we we
• 1:20:03
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